tv Small Business Commission SFGTV January 12, 2023 9:30pm-12:01am PST
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are considering this considering the problems that the artists world had in san francisco and the past with problems with money and suriving the environment. san francisco a great place and known for arts. and we are thrilled that we are still here and surviving and hope to continue. thank you all. thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm sascha sullivan and i'm the second generation owner of cafe greco my parents started it in 1988 i was 9 at the time. it it is has been something that has been in my life sxf i have been a part of and feel luck tow be taking over the business now. and -- we operated for the last 33 years. and i'm also blessed to have a
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great staff. there are many of them with us over 30 years we are lucky. >> we look forward to more years of being there special thanks to rick and michelle who helped us. and it is an honor to be considered to be added to the legacy registry. thank you. >> thank you. any callers online >> no >> seeing no comments, public comment is closed. commissioners do we have comments? commissioner huie. thank you. thank you very much for being here tonight. and i wanted to you know acknowledge the thread i think we are hearing throughout all of these for all of your businesses is this connection to community.
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and i wanted to congratulate you on your leadership with the communities and in the san francisco small business community. i think that is important to acknowledge that. -- small businesses are the heart of many neighborhoods and of the city. thank you very much for rung your businesses day in and out putting in the hard work and -- the sacrifices you made for not just yourself and family but for everybody. thank you. and -- congratulations. >> thank you. vice president zouzounis. i want to echo what commissioner huie said. and thank you all for being here. and it really is -- true that small businesses beirut responsibility of more than just taking care of themselves and -- it does take a family inherited or chosen to really make that --
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happen and sustain and that irrelevant defined what small business is. i love to seat multiienerations here and the continuity of your work. thank you for letting us share in it. >> thank you. you know, i -- one things i'm struck by and one thing that we are fortunate to see up here on the commission is how many of our small businesses have a generational aspect. we have a commissioner here herself who is a couple generations deem in her business. and some of us including myself are parents would like to see our children hopefully pick up the reigns. not too soon. but -- it is really a delight and a joy tom able to see that
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continuity across generations. it speaks to a business that is well founded. and to commissioner huie's point connected to his community. so -- just want to say they are not visible down the street. >> i did want top comment on the commission support of the arts. i'm a former artist myself and a determine out from art academy of cincinnati. 3 will million dollars during the pandemic they were also
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adversely impacted by the covid impact. so that's a way of saying that -- it is hard to imagine a business much smaller than an artist. trying to make a living or just further their own expression we are grateful there are organizations facilitating that and facilitating the next generation. and -- one last thing i wanted mention, the -- floral shop bloomers, i -- i'm sitting here reflecting because in a couple minutes we'll go through thenual report and mentioned our previous commissioners that lists thanks commissioner duly. who is a great friends of mine. and -- we appreciated i was
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deeply grateful for the time i spent with her and she ran a floral shop for 30 plus years approximate had a legacy business as well. so there is something deeply poetic and resonant right now as we are about to emb on another term for the small business commission. that this is coming up now. so really grateful to have you here for that. and i know that if she was here to vote today. she would be, yes. >> with that, commissioners would you like to make a motion? >> motion by commissioner cart and seconded by dickerson. commissioner carter. >> yes. >> commissioner dickerson. >> yes. >> commissioner herbert is absent. commissioner huie.
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>> yes. >> president laguna honda. >> yes. >> commissioner cart hena. >> congratulations. >> thank you, everybody. [applause]. next item. >> item 3annium report and budget update. this is a discussion item. the commission will hear an over view. office of small business annual report and update on the fiscal year 23/24 budget process presenting zoe katie tang director of office of small business. >> all right. thank you. we'll start with the budget. update and over view. upon since we have a couple guestsil invite them up to talk about when we were instructed as parking lot of our budget process. as you know, the office of small
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business budget is part of the office of economic and workforce development. and so i like to callum our cfo and fred or deputy finance officer is available for questions. first, i know we have slides. sfgovtv if you could show our slides? >> thank you very much. and we go to the next slide to talk about the instructions that we received for the next 2 fiscal years. good evening or good afternoon, commissioners. as the executive director tang noted i'm the chief financial
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officer of workforce develop and want with me is fred little. will mayor's budget instructions, they presented the 5 year report updated forecast regarding the deficit for the city. they reported that will be 728.3 million. it breaks down in fy23-24, 200.8 million and 24-25 is 527.5 million. as a result, of the updated self sit to the city budget. the mayor had budget instructions left month in december to departments to instruct thome make a 5% cut to our general fund 23-24 and increasing 8% in 24-25. am so -- in regards to the
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mayor's policy priorities and what she instruct in the her office to focus on and in terms of prop to the budget this year, focus on 4 bullet points the first being the recovery of the local economy. the focus on downtown and economic core. 2, improving public safety and streets. 3, reducing homelessness and transforming mental health service deliver and he 4, acounsel acted and equity and he service spending. and reading off of here. the last time am the city projected a short fall the size was 2 years ago. and prior to that, the 2 year deficit had not been over 600 million. i think in terms of where we are with the city i think part of the major issues have been around upon slow to no growth
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for the city as well as a loss of federal revenue and support we gone over the last 2 years and one time revenue sources. of so. going over the key budget cycle, i like to think of it about spreading it in 3 phases of the budget. right now we are in the department phase. which kicked off the mayor's budget instructions in december. we will go through this department review and submission of proposed budget to meet the budget instructions. through february and departments are required to submit proposed budget in february 21st. after that commission kicks the second phase the mayor phase. so we gallon over a lot of back and forth review and negotiation with mayor's budget office as well as the mayor's office over the next couple months.
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and the conclusion of the mayor phase would be the end of may. which at that point the mayor will produce her proposed budget the ends of may 31st. in june the board phase and at that point, we will be presenting the budget a are cord to the mayor's proposed budget and during that phase i think key changes will likely be focussed on reductions that would be made by the budget and upon legislative analyst leads to what is typically known board add back. any reductions made during that phase, the board takes that pot and reallocates based on policy priorities. and -- after june the budget is approved the mayor has 10 days to sign. and hopefully we will be all
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good bye july in terms of a new budget employing and then going over i think key budget details in regards to the department, in terms of last or this current year budget are oewd adopted budget for 22-23 in total was 164 million. i'm going over updated numbers. this was based on where we were at going in the phase last year nvment terms where we ended off final numbers we ended at 163 penalty 9 million. of that, osb's budget was 3.7 million.
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and then 423-24 we are in, the base budget was approximately 122 million with osb in the at 3 penalty 7 million. >> great. for the next part i was going in highlights from the annual report but before am merrick ends do you have questions for our chief financial officer about the budget in the upcoming year? okay. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> great. so -- sfgovtv will continue with the slides. and in your packets, commissioners, you have the full annual report i will not go over every page. a few highlights and really thank our entire team at the office of small business and the commissioners for all the great work that we are highlighting here.
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for the fiscal year 21, 22, highlightsmented share that we have as a team managed about 4, 122 case. that you know during the pandemic we had an increase in case mostly because businesses were calling the office and asking for financial support or rent relief or what is the latest health guidance. it spiked up during the pan dpij years during the height of that. now we are in terms of the upon trendses we're closely mirroring the percentage increase year over year prepandemic. increase of sick % in case since 18-19. we, this yearmented highlight we added 2 near small business permit special irrelevants started in march the service were publicized april-may.
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that they alone saw 173 case from when they started amongst 2 staff. showing you the need that there was in pargs out the service for focusing on permits. and then i mentioned last year, the small business development center a program was fold in the our office portfolio and they saw know 1, 052 clients we referred to and from each other for services it has been nice to have them under our office to again work more closely their trends in case mirror ours. seeing a lot of either presdart ups or existing accidents. and so -- that has been helpful. to see that break down. you can see for office of small
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business, again for the majority our prestart up existing businesses. . and so that will is what you see at the bottom row there. and the graph or table you see shoes the distribution of businesses and where they are located. and again these are representative who contacts us for help. >> so next slide, just want to highlight i know there is a lot of attention on prop h. passed in november of 2020 and with the small business recovery act which an ordinance passed at the board of supervisors a while later. and so as a result of the 2 will new changes to laws we have seen a higher percentage for commercial projects approved over the counter. this means 88% of those are approved in 30 days or less which has been great example since 2021, over 1, 800 xhshl protects got permits over the
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counter. we also seen through planning that few are projects receive cu authorization. and few are projects go through the noticing requirement for they sends to neighbors. and that adds months to the process. again, happy to see an increase in the percentage there. and then also theme report that health permits for foodservice the someone for small businesses they took less than 30-days to approve or issue. and on the right here we have a spotlight of first time business owner excited to be able to be helped throughout small business specialist and benefit from the new laws passed. >> director tang. i wanted to reemphasize that point. personal low knowing of several businesses that the permit specialists have been a huge impact on. i think that role i think we
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heard the mayor talk about how disturbed she is the fact people feel the need to hire expediters to provide that service imattorney low through the city at no cost i think has been i don't continuing is over state to say it has been a god sends for the businesses and really a difference with whether they opened or not. >> i'm -- in strong support and continuing is a fantastic addition. i could not agree more. thank you for that. and then in terms of the next slide we talked about legacy businesses. currently we have 320 businesses. as of september of 22 now we have 3 more. and this year again as of that time we had 27 added to the registry. this year under legacy business
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program, have awarded 44 grants. totalling 724,000 roughly for rent stabilization. that is the case where landlords sign new lease or a 5 year lease and 5 year exception to keep small businesses in place. then the previous program called legacy business grant program awarded 179 totalling 400 thousand dollars. there are changes on the right that were a result of the things that came up in this commission. one, we really took steps to. address ecwittedy. in the programs we removed and suggested removal of a 50 dollar application fee part of the ballot measure that create third degree program. we proposed legislation to the
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board which was adopted. businesses no longer pay 50 dollars to apply. sorry the numbering is off. secondly we did stream lining of the application. change rick and michelle to make it easy for people. and then thirdly, locked at the representation of the between geography or demographics and who is represented on the registry. looked to see where well are gap and did out roach to the neighborhoods to get more legacy business in those areas to be part of this registry. thank you rick and michelle for your work. and policy advocacy and initiatives. a couple highlightis will not go through everything here but we talked about improvements to the permit process and how that is important for entrepreneurs starting out or expanding we work with dbi and other agencies
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to try to stream line the way it is process if you are not making changes to space we saw that the business owners are paying for architects and drawings even though they are not doing anything to the space employees this was a key improvement to the process worked closely with supervisor ronen and tax collect or's office on the first year free program expansion and recommended additional buildings permits that could be waved under this program. and have been working with city agencies to get businesses rep funds as part of this program and the expansion. thrill body that. >> thirdly, we heard a need for additional information on how to better start up special events or pop ups. street faris.
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it is complicated involving many departments. we put together a step guide as well as and this guess with many other starter guides we have available to businesses now. shared space program. since the on set of covid-19 this commission worked hard to advocate for the creation of schaefered space program to help businesses survive during the pandemic this year the commission supported permanent shared spaces program had which is? place. we did out roach not community and internal low to make sure the shared space bunkham program dead lines and requirements are feasible for buildingses thatment to have a permanent shared space program. next racial equity plan.
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all commissions and departments thank customer and he commission for the w on this. we adopted the resolution affirming the commission's commitment to racial equity. and also adopted the ramaytush ohlone land acknowledgment and commission rules of order and racial equity tool as we look at legislation and policies through the body that we are looking at through the lens of racial equity and he have criteria to help evaluate policies. and then we also did a fair amount of work with street vend and department of public works and making sure we were asking questions as they remember forming the program and the out reach to community what the program entails. people register and comply with this, this is on going effort. >> and last page here, thanks to all of you, am weigh nothing on
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graffiti, supervisor melgar and stefani created a graffiti pilot program this is under way now launched in november. so before the holidays. and again it was thanks to advocacy this program was created and funding allocated. 4 million for over 2 years. so that small buildingses don'ts have to why address graffiti themselves or pay fineseen though they are victims of it. >> and lastly 9sf our office has been doing rep branding with the office of economic and workforce development to bring attention to local businesses in neighborhood/commercial corridors. we continue has been difficult for many of our small businesses and so this is just one -- piece of the puzzle. trying to -- put together a holiday gift guides or let people know how the consol
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baitidated place to make it easy to support our small businesses. we have that available as a refresh, was shop and dine in the 49. we will add campaigns to this effort. of so, this last slide is a riminder, you have this. and had contributed to development of the strategic goals and priorities for the commission for the year. so, just encourage to you relook at this as in the next commission meeting on january 23rd we will adopt a resolution to set our priorities for the budget. and so look at this, make sure it is in line with when you think should be reflect in the our budget the next 2 fiscal years and with that i conclude or presentation and open for questions that you have.
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commissioners do we have questions. we are feeling satisfied or quiet today or perhaps. or both. >> i think that -- this is great work director, i think that the budget reflects both the goals and the priorities of the commission that we articulated. i'm pleased that our budget is continuing and we are not seeing dramatic cuts. i think that is appropriate. obviously that is not in our purview but none the less, i take that as implicit vote of confidence in the work of the office of small business and -- the work that the commission has don help it is office of small
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business in when they are trying to i think it is all great. and -- will boy were we lucky when we got you. [laughter]. >> and customer, by the way i wanted to ratify what the public commenters said earlier. huge stroke of luck. in dealing with us. commissioner huie. >> i echo i think you said boy were we luck tow have you. i think was the quote? [laughter]. and so, yea, looking at this report, it is so impressive how you have been able to really put together so many conversations like i can look at this and you know i see specifically like where everybody had these conversations and input. i feel like as a commissioner who is here as a volunteer i
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appreciate that you are -- that -- you have not only an ability to hear and listen but to like our input but to make in in actionable item and help us move forward. so, realized i vehicle talking too close to the microphone. thank you. and kerry as well. and you know i think this is amazing and wanted to thank everybody for make thanksgiving worthwhile for me to be on the commission. it feels like we accomplished a bit. i appreciate this. >> thank you. >> vice president zouzounis. thank you director and everyone for presenting this to us.
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i had a question about the sbdc funding, they can like leverage miles an hour funding? is that right? why so, they -- they are a quasi city agency they go federal fund support. so they are leveraging city dollars to provide sba or services. >> can they like also supplement their funding through state -- >> they do receive state funding and they are also can also fund raise for fungdz as well. >> okay >> does that kinds of enand flow our budget? >> it can. this is our first year with the sbdc under our budget i have not taken a close look thou is but
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it can. >> i have seen they don't have the house that ours has flail in other counties . because of that insecurity of leveraged funding i was curious. i feel like it it is a great fit where it is. i'm curious if they will bolster our budget in our capacity through their ability to finance stuff and so i was wanted to keep a tab on that. >> i can follow up off line about that. yea. i think it it is challenge for example all state wide in terms of everyone streshth is different. how it ended up for a bit of back grounds information with oewd housed with city college and they are going through a challenge and so oawd basement host agency. so yes indeed they can struggle
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depending where they are house exclude we are fortunate top have a great partnership. >> great. >> my second question was -- with the emergency -- what do they call it? economic recovery portion. is that include federal money that are not going to exist next year? infused emergency funds that will not continue? if i'm gog ask our cfo to answer that. there was a lot of one time federal support that is now no longer available. so around the mayor's budget instruction there is is the
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focus around economic recovery. i think a lot of that will likely come from our general fund as well as to terrible privilege of external sources. whether a combination of federal or state sources that will be i think the key question in terms of this year's budget. >> and just to follow up on that, this is the 2021/22 the upcoming budget. the pie graph shifted a bit. like -- you know, i don't think workforce is still at 52.9. >> correct. well is a big i say determine off in terms of the current budget and goes down to 120 plus million for the upcoming fiscal year. a lot of that was due to upon one time enhancements around our
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will ambassador programs. so that will be another key question in terms when the city will do in terms of focus on economic recovery through that being a combination of economic recovery in the core as well as public safety but in terms of what the city will approach around activations around a core especially support of small buildings. >> right. >> all right. gi guess to continue this back and forth it is helpful we had a preliminary presentation from oewd in terms how they are planning use the funds i know our commission was curious on a follow up. begin that some of the recovery money is going to activation. so that means potential low money that would have gone to small business director will now go to big entities this house
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the type of downtown activations that they are looking for. i think that is something i'm saying out loud we can book mark. see where that funding will change up. thanks for flagging that. >> of course. >> i think -- that was -- it. on the budget piece. thank you. >> you are welcome. >> thank you. commissioner ortiz. >> i want to thank you and the staff not here. everybody from the office of small business and cocommissioners i appreciate working with you director tang. i know our calls we have worked and developed customized solutions to some of the issue this is face small businesses i assume in other districts.
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i appreciate that were. the data reflects the work. my question need to ask for more break down on demographics i see the districts but beside that. it has been an earnest effort for equity and the process little things like the secretary with spanish speak translation nas get over looked or poor translations that nobody oonldz. those are things that the report does not reflect. like start making change and change that has impact not just for show but reaching out to small businesses. i thank you for that. >> thank you. >> yes. thank you for calling that out. we do have in our report a bit more information about the main languages we provide services but i think there is an enabling
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here where we talk about we translate in the 3 languages required but they're translating to more than required. and then of course, our commission secretary kerry birnbach creating noticers and making sure they are translated when other departments minot producing that material, appreciate that, too. >> i will quick leap mention there are a couple other public forums for hearing about oewd's budget includes office of small business on january 30 there will be a community meeting around workforce. january 31 one around economic development. february sorry i thought there was 3. there are 2. >> there are 3. okay sorry which is it february 13th. >> yes. >> sorry. january 30, 31 and february 13
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are the 3 meetings if you wanted to get more engaged around oewd's budget. thank you so much for your time and thank you fred for being here >> we should go to public comment. there are no public commenters on the phone >> public comment is closed >> thank you very much for coming in appreciate the presentation. next item. >> item 4 approval of draft minutes a discussion and action item. commission will discuss and public low take action to approve the december 12 of 22 minutes. >> open up for public comment? is there public comment. why well is 91.
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none. >> public comment is closed i move to approve the minutes. >> do i have a second? gi seconded. >> motion and seconded by commissioner huie. i commissioner carter. >> not here >> commissioner dickerson. >> yes. >> commissioner huie. >> yes. >> president laguna honda luge. >> yes. >> next item. >> item 5 resolution making findings allow teleconferenced meetings under california code 54953e a discussion and action the commission will discuss and possibly take kkz action to adopt making finds to allow
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teleconference meeting. any comments or questions. >> is there public comment. >> there is none. >> public comment is closed. move to approve the resolution. >> second. >> motion by president dickerson >> yes. >> commissioner huie. >> yes. >> president. >> yes >> commissioner ortiz. >> yes. >> and vice president zouzounis. >> yes. >> motion passes. >> next item. item 6 general public comment a discussion item allowing the public to comment general low on matters within the mall business commission jurisdiction that not on today's calendar.
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>> are there members of the public who would like to comment on items not on the agenda? >> 91 >> public comment is closed. >> director's report a discussion item. an update and report on the office of small business and small business center. policy and legislative matters and regarding small business activities. >> really excite to share that today our office welcomez position. she is iris lee and this position is commercial vacancy manager. this position will serve city wide. tracking vacancies. and helping to do you mean features of the vacancies to make it easier for you to match make the small businessents prenurse looking for space a restaurant, knowing the space is
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zoned for a restaurant. may be has the equipment. and infrastructure available. and also helping us keep track of the change and vacancies drew the corridors. so iris has experience worked with licensed broke are and most recently wing with the tenderloin community. to help fill vaccanceys. welcome to iris i know everybody is looking forward to the out economist position. request next >> can i comment on that. that is fantastic. really great! i'm wondering. something i hungered for and talked about it on this commission instead patch is if there a way to tie in zoning so say you electric to open a hair salon where can i open one?
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okay. where can i open a hair salon that has a vacancy? and so -- to me it seems a huge opportunity there to the extent she vetd and verified. >> if we tie that in the it department so when somebody on that -- as guthrough the permit exploration process, you therein is a city rule or reason why. it would be a great benefit to those look to open a business if they quickly see what is just available now. that they can open that business. why we would love to get there. that is a goal. we know there were tools like that out dated. that is the challenge is that you have the great data base and has to be maintained. so i think that thool i think planning had at one point taken
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down it was not again, anyway. so this was part of our plan we hope to get well and set up foundational things first including a data base from the get g. we have information every where throughout the city. but not comprehensive city wide >> huge welcome to iris that is a big step in the right direction this . is a position approved in the budget of last budget process. so. i remember. >> finally here >> yea. >> great. >> sorry. . no , i put it in. joy was thinking, too, that you know wonder. to connect her i'm sure this is part of the plaintiff's exhibit i know you have a master plan. i wanted to offer upon like i know in conversations in the last couple of years there are many people within our community
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who are leaders who have personally walked past and taken a note of vacancies. there are people withhold love to support this position. too, homely make the connections and all of us can help make the connections for her not to overwhelm her but to than there is a lot of support in the sdpae that although automatic you know this is upon -- manage that many people are waiting for and for her to succeed. so -- i love that suggestion. can we have 3 eleven there , is a vaccance in my neighborhood y. this is work see cannot do alone. it it is such a wide scope top cover the entire city. we need a partnership of people already doing this work. i love your suggestion. >> i know the city can do it i adopted a sewer drain.
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>> not only can you adopt one you can name it. you wanna know what i named my drain. swamp the drain. reverse it. oh. >> will nail polish and paint the drien like a little thing. if we can adopt a drain we can adopt a commercial corridor. if we can adopt a drain we can adopt a vacancy i love that idea. great concept of -- utilizing the communities to help build the resources we need which i agree. no way iris could do that by herself but have a larger group. y love the ideas i have written them down.
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speaking of drains. winter storms and impacts to small businesses. wanted share our office has been working closely with oewd to figure out aid businesses that need to recover prosecute the floods and everything else. and so we are exploring loans ownership grants or other resources hope to package together information so we can share this out with the community. what is available now. we know of is puc has a flood management grant program reimbursed up to 100 thousand dollars for improvements we are exploring more to help businesses get through the time. when we have more we will share that with you. so you can bring that to your communities. and we are documenting flood impacts so physical impacts to buildings. as a result of flooding there
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are more but what we are tracking now is damage by flooding. so if people sends photos. estimated costs of damage whether there is insurance. and of course the location. that will be helpful for us to document that to the state. next i wanted reminds you for the shared spaces program the application dead line for the permanent program is january 15th this is around the corner. a week away. if anyone has questions or plaintiff's exhibits or issues let us know. >> yes. >> what happens if they don't submit by the 15th. >> they may not be able the shared space permanently. they'll not have the improvements done by the 15th or remember may be they doend don't have funds encourage to you submit the application that starts the conversation knowing that they want to continue.
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and may be considered. okay. i know the team will work with the property ordinance if dollar is no response from the business owner then there will be plans to take those down. but of course it is supposed to be the accident owner's responsibility to take it down if they are abandoning. >> yea. >> and then lastly third party delivery app. door dash a remindser that any food based businesses that use the services are client of the companies were need to opt in revised contract by january 30. also around the corner. or else they may face a higher fee cap. just a couple of reminders. share space january 15th and third party apps january 30.
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i don't remember remember anything from the apps telling us. >> so supposed low there are in your account dash boards suppose to pop up with notices or a notice. and we are supposed to get a report about that so if you didn't double check. >> i check all the time if you didn't we can look into that i like to know if others are not receiving them >> director, thank you you presented in front of latino task force. >> if you hear if they did not get a notice let me know. i like to follow up. yea. >> thank you. that's it. thank you. >> thank you. >> >> okay. is there public more commissioner comment on the
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director's report? >> public comment? >> there is not. >> seeing no public comment temperature is closed. next item. >> commissioner discussion and new business. >> this is a discussion item. >> commissioners is there new business. one a new business. vice president zouzounis. >> thank you. i wanted to propose a follow up on a policy line dwlam we discussed before. it was one of the economic mitigation working group recommendations. and also something that has been recommended by the policy request for policy recommendation from lacasina and tiffany's crew there and small businesses. and so it has to do with the weights and measures fee schedules.
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those are connected to point of sale systems. and the specific -- requests that i want to -- bring forward to our commission and may be will take us may be have a presentation by d ph but i think a recommendation that what other small business inquiries. businesses in the city now -- the way d ph has the fee
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scheduled what safe way and when a small grocerier would pay for the fee. its got 6 line items so a device permit fee. automated fee a station fee, location fee. it is redundant and like 700 dollars. in 2016 they put it on the unified license fwil got more stream lined in keeping track of it. it has been an issue for small businesses who like payment in the healthy retail program encouraged to get a pos and are not told they have to you know get a permit and the fees and they get in a spot. and taking the stretch getting a point of sale system is something we should encourage since it improves technology for
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6 items and -- also allows people to purchase. i would love us to look back in the fee schedule. i'm happy to sends the line items of the 6 different d ph weights and measures related fees. and see if there is political will to offer support businesses who have these. >> question. are these fees part of a city ordinance? or is this state lu? >> it it is d ph, city. one there is a3 ;/y 28ye)ñ rela one. i can sends you the language of the different fee schedules but. weights and measures is under
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department of public health with the city and county. and then tr is like a state stwhoon is one thap is related. the reason i ask is like i support when you are trying to do. first of all. if the fee is collected pursuant to a state law, and the oldsmobile way the commission could engage is to -- write a letter to the mayor via her liaison and ask the mayor to advocate for the change her state liaison because the -- commission can't -- i'm not it is not we don't pay it to the state. >> i understand but the city collects on will behalf of the state. question is where does the fee
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start? if a local ordinance then it is a question of finding a legislative experience. you know i would be -- welcoming and encouraging having dph educate us on the or gin of the fee and -- what the purpose is and how much money we collect. the city should be able to provide that. the point i'm make suggest almost like a narrow procedural point. which is -- i bump in the this self times. there are things i wanted to change that -- i could not. and -- we had a comprehensive look at this already.
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i don't want us to duplicate labor but -- dph presented to the working group. yea. i think this begs the larger question what are the different small business fees tieed and where is there room to have that conversation about mitigation? i wanted bring that up because i have been told that small business fees balance our budget. that is an incredible better than to be up against when we are trying to talk about ease employs business and mitigation up against that's how we balance the budget of tell take work on our part to interrogate which we have room on. and i think that i wanted to just -- may be add more
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specificless to the left item i brought up another fee that is -- tied to what i know is an out dated 96 us study. may be that's how we identify which can be updated or amended. men there is like a specific request we can ask of controller or wlofr manages the general fund budget and be like, okay, look at a percentage of the general fund budget that is fee.
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i wanted see it that was more helpful the left time i brought it up i was not sure. we can look into that and another one i think would be good for the weights and measures in terms how to support businesses would be waiving the sidewalk display produce permit which is a very high fee. you would be surprise today is over 4 thousand dollars. what is the base for that? dpw. i think. the majors don't all the small
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mom and pop3 >> they will be only small mom and pop3. >> don't vice president to they got the square footage. those were a couple off my head i think would -- help us toward our goals of equity and he food access. something. there is nothing prohibiting the commission from advocacy it is one of process. who do you advocate to. state level the mayor local the board of supervisors and encourage them to pass legislation. we pay to the city and county yoochlt sure there are state mandate fees we pay to the city. i'm surety walk is in the >> no on that i agree.
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i think it is likely to be -- a city based fee. we can talk to dpw about that. >> okay. and -- that was the fee -- pieces i had. and then just quick, director, if there is any -- raw or additional data on -- discs i intake for the office i second that request of them is so valuable to communities because especially in my community. . we upon don't have data. we are not captured on the census. not captures in the threshold of language even though we have a lot of working and living people in the city that speak arabic. the fact that you have data on intake of businesses like that's valuable to us.
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if there is anything you canef give back that would be amazing. that's it. >> commissioner ortiz. >> thank you. i have 2 one is a statement of the crisis that is happening at the 24th street plaza in general. is unatenable. a complete break down in civic functions. i'm holding agencies and elected officials responsible for the last 2 years community has worked with you. reached outer, addresses. solutions and organized all the agencies and elected officials. to come see and resolve this issue. 2 weeks ago a double homicide.
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anything guess. it is killing our business and giving the responsibility to resolve an issue after we respondedd and resolves the issue of the covid response. we fixd that and held government and agency accountable. now -- we have been dumped with no resources with everybody playing politics kick the can to the next elected official. no. i finish this was on pacific avenue this would not happen. i'm done and i'm on record. i will meet this month again my second meeting with all city agencies and officials this is you will bullshit. come o. i. that on the record. and to change the tone. [laughter]
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>> yea. >> as a shift to changing the tone. let me say, it is on the record. noted. it does have to change. you are 100% correct. you know what, walk in and walk out. this is not our small mom and pop3 they walk in steel what they want and have the audacity to steal there at the plaza. 50 feet away. we have to do better perhaps there is a way for the commission to engage on the issue in a way tla it is constructive and helpful. i think we as the commission have to write a letter or something. that will gift community more tool its has to stop i'm talking
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about all communities. am pastor brown held a town hall. same in his community. why always our communities of color. it is not happen nothing pacific heights you know hawill happen it would be done in an hour. this is san francisco. come of thank you. i still have not got this my nonpaper tablet when are we going paperless like -- when you joined that was the first thing you highlighted. i reviewed the minutes and seen you called for it many times and i think in the first meeting i said, that was something this jumped out to me as a sensible
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thing to ask for. give an update that we did inquire and -- based on cost and what is available laptops. weave could have commissioners use laptops during the meetings i'm in the process of trying to secure that. >> i will do it out of my -- it is a waste of paper typeset is not the money. it is -- yea. we have and will continue to work on this one. >> you know -- since we are revisiting olds initiatives. i had a long standing recommendation that dates back when i joined the commission we should be able to text business owners about legislation
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impacting them coming and text should be context grul legislation this impacts hair salons we can text the hair salons and legislation that impacts the fitness facilities we text them and say, this is happening and going to impact you. you upon may want top come to the hear to learn more or the corner stores or -- you are correct. e mails. -- text them or -- we do tic tocs for nonprofits with stuff this happens like grands. e mails and the other stuff. tic toc and about a grant.
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that works. we have gone back on instagram hopefully that helps a bit. yes. thank you. commissioner ortiz, good stuff. commissioner huie. i don't have anything to share for myself except. i want to respond to the both upon comments. i mean for me i feel i sigh a pattern or 2. like swon that the fees and the comment of small business -- small business fees balance our budget i can agree with that. that oorp00 we have to finds revenue in a source. i think that the equity issue loyals in the lack of transparency. it is like as we bury the things and make life complicated and
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start to tax on fees out dated fees. and make things more just -- unnecessarily complex. it requires mriek a much higher threshold of time and resource tos peal them apart. our commitment can be toward transparency of the fees. and uncovering why are we doing this where is this coming from. you know in the to just guarantee we will get rid of all fees but what are we paying for. san franciscoment value for what they are putting their tax dollars toward or putting fees toward. i think as small business ordinance nobody wants to run a small business for free and nobody is asking for a hand out they want to know when they are paying for and feel like they are adding value to the city.
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that is the other piece. people are not venturing in other neighborhood and not making an effort to see this is all san francisco. upon what happens in the mission affects everybody. what happen in bayview affects everybody. if there is a way our commission can promote the idea of really getting to know one another. moving outside of the neighborhood divide. you know, because i upon can't -- understand how we can scyllo ourselves in thinking
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that okay, well. that -- corner is disarray. i will drive by and not worry about it i see it when i do my one thing that is not okay. i think like -- i don't know. ism of the just of now that i have committed myself to really like -- venturing out of my own comfort zone through the w that i have been doing like will our city is wonderful. if we don't make friendships and don't venture out we scyllo ourselves in our own communities and neighborhood its is a shame. yea.
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etch i'm committed to going in every neighborhood and may be that's a commitment but i appreciate our traeps on the commission and the way you have opened up my as to the parts of our city. i feel like we all share the same thing. we are sharing meant same things we share public safety occurrence violence in neighborhoodses. and i feel the same. fisaw -- amount of elders i have seen attacked on the streets. if that happen in the, neighborhood and it is drfblths were different i think that the. am am would not be going on for year 3. we have to be candid about that. you know like you are right it is the like municipal transit
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station somewhere. where there was happening. ir appreciate you because we get caught up in neighborhoods trialism if we had the advocacies to come help us all the problems are all our problems. and i don't care you are from mission or bayviewure frisco 415. we should not be divided i appreciate that. gotta promote that. sometime its is 650.
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>> 628. >> the new one >> okay. i feel like i know people have 650. like old cell phones. >> you know. >> um -- so commissioners i have 2 items for you. on my new business. lawanda you have anything. >> okay. so first in your packet you see a letter that went out to supervisor dorsey that went out in his request. its in the front. they all with me? i see. was apologize i thought
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everybody got one. so -- supervisor dorsey requests the city diameters including the mall business commission out line implementation of a city wide approach addressing drug aduction and public nuisance, impact them. asked this we identify what will best serve and protect small businesses those in neighborhoods born the brunt of harms. drug markets and drug violence, behavioral health crisis snvm nondrug induced violence. petty theft and selling them outside the shops. these are all the things that prierz dorsey was looking for
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our guidance and advice on the commission would discuss it prior to a response, between the holidays and had missed meeting we were not able to achieve quorum. this is the letter this went out. i believe it represents many of the commission's positions that this commission has discussed in the past and i don't think there is any points of controversy in there but we wanted make sure that you all were advised of the if letter this went out. it i think is boiler plate. all the things we talk about. in the commission over and over again. vice president zouzounis.
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the 96 us of small business. >> this is a resolution. that is another thing that is important. supervisors file number 22954 is nonbinding this is not legislation. this is a question for advice we gave it based on the stuff. manage he is planning on making more than a resolution. >> at the moment. no it is for a resolution i can't speak to what he might be planning >> for san francisco recovers. that is the resolution.
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we're not a strategy but not -- nonbehinding game plan. >> correct. >> not an ordinance a resolution reporting to the board of supervisors and give them the information the board needs to create a challenge he called san francisco recovers. okay. 2 step nonbinding process. he has -- he is trying to i think -- and i don't want to -- put word in mouth what a report from the departments might look like if were to be part of the city process. >> is are you saying that our we -- this is our response.
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are we able to provide more feedback about small business role moving forward >> if any ordinance arised it would come before this commission and they would have an opportunity to provide feedback. okay. being a district 6 business i can tell you a lot about how different variations initiatives around public safety impacted us as small businesses. there have been pilot and trial in our district around this and -- i have occurrence about that. like i have small businesses in south of market who have come saying plain clothes cops are stake out in their business. things like that.
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they are by a sobering centers. they are a stake out. they don't want to be a stake out. we want to be partners but that -- there is a lot of feedback small businesses giveow attempts to try this so far. >> well. again. at this points there is no legislation in front of us. >> okay. when there is this commission will certainly have an opportunity to weigh in as a body and decide how testimonies to respond to whatever legislation is crafted. this early stage i think the supervisor was looking for a top level over view of how the small business community is looking. not detailed the basics. we made recommendations since the beginning of -- we talked
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about i remember having a line budget agenda item we gave feedback on something like this. >> that's right. >> we talked about trainings. >> uh-huh. >> essential to that. uh-huh >> that we are not that yet >> correct. >>. correct >> commissioner ortiz. >> the d. public works do you think we can get data on what they do by district or is it on their website? >> i think upon can might be through 311 they have a lot of service requests fitture through 311 if there is an issue, for example, tree complaints or -- you name it whatever the issue is we can figure out what they have available. >> okay.
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>> it is this will triggered something. again. and to supervisor dorse. i mean the city has the resources and the infrastructure if people do their job. accountability and making sure that taxpayer mob sespent and delivering the value that taxpayers are expecting when they elect our leaders to decide where the money go its from the outside look nothing it looks like a lot of opportunity there for improvement and there will always be opportunity for improvement.
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i have one last baptist news. little bittersweet. next meeting will be my last meeting with the commission. i will be stepping down. we will have an electionil be delighted to elect my successor who ever that is. i will have long are comments comments then. about next steps and -- what is driving this up. now i will say that i have stuff happening with my business and my personal life that is a prior for me now. with that said, i will continue to be an advocate for small
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business and i will continue to be a friends and partner to the commission. y don't expect that. this aspect of my life doing volunteer public service i don't expect that will stop. i did not want to blind side you all at the next meeting and the brown act i can't tell you all privately. all right. is there public comment? okay. public comment is closed. and next item. >> adjournment. sfgovtv show the office of small business slide. the small business commission is the forum to voice opinion and
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concerns about policy that affect the economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco and that the office of small business is the best accomplice to get answer busy doing business in san francisco during the local emergency. if you need assistance reach out to the office of small business. meeting adjourned
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(inaudible) who are doing inspections and repairs and some of the equipment related to our buses. [applause] >> i enjoy coming to the event because of the camaraderie with the staff and seeing the departments and everybody meeting arfbd so the more we can do these things the better we'll be and it helps the agency grow. >> the winner of the local bus roadeo the person goes to the national (inaudible) one additional item we add to the event and call it a fun event where managers at the senior level get to test their skills operating a bus. (inaudible) transfer officers (inaudible) basically maneuver the course and they (inaudible) >> interesting to see some of the main managers run
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the course out there. they haven't had as much experience but they did pretty well. i'll submit the bus damage for the bumps they did to the body shop for estimates. [applause] >> behind us we have vintage buses that were brought out for folks to see. some of these vintage buses are sfmta, part of the historical fleet. two others belong to the pacific bus museum and a personal bus of a individual that owns it. we take great pride in the historical buses we have and try to keep it up to date. >> it is a way to bring employees together, work together as a team. a great morale booster something the employees have been asking for a year and it is great today because you can see how happy they were to once again do something they really enjoy.
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the hail and rain and everything in between. i'm glad everybody is here. wanted to call the mote to order. call the roll. >> president ajami. >> here >> vice president maxwell. >> here >> paulson. >> here. >> rivera. >> here. >> commissioner stacy. >> you have a quorum. >> covid-19 health emergency given the recommendation issued by the san francisco public health. emergency orderses conceg
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