any way. >> are there questions about this device. >> great. >> the next item that i have on the presentation are vehicles. first of which is a 2012mt five 5 a fancy way of saying we have a command vehicle capable of providing incident command post for planned and unplanned events that is mobile and accessible in the field. >> these are communication system bases of operation when is we are out in the field. deployed for planned or unplanned eventses and rivered a class b license we have a number of staff members available for this. for transportation. it is it is in use in deployments past.

. >> reports >> keep only use third degree in 2022 for training operations and it is a useful platform to conduct training operations in locations >> second vehicle -- is the 2013 ford f59. this is a basic nonarmored vehicle to transport equipment and personnel. it is similar in shape and design to a ups delivery truck and has a capability of getting people and equipment to places relatively quickly and safely. >> any questions about the vehicles we have covered in our

breaching shotgun used during srt swat type operations. to defeat barricaded or fortified locations in order for us to conduct rescues or high riskent rows during high risk and critical incidents. preaching slugs we use on this platform are not utilized outside of training or apprehensions or incidentses or s circumstances had we get in a place quickly while we execute an arrest or warrant. and it is deployed as a breaching tool. only under extreme circumstances would this be used as a lethal force option. and it is a shotgun modified be a breaching tool. >> the capability of this device

when used with breaching slugs is to help us to manualy breech and defeat hinges and looking mechanisms on doors. other devices that preventent row in a room. able to defeat. and in regards to the use itself, it is not something this all deputies are trained on. only something the srt members are trained on. this is a specific course they have to complete in order to be able to authorized to use this device and on going training during the srt training cycle to keep consistent with those skills. the capability to do this with breaching rounds is also specific to the ammunition used. that ammunition is listed here. and it is pacific to the breech.

and as mentioned in the previous slides this is the only ammunition used boy trained deputies in the use of breaching shotgun. >> any questions on that device? next slide, please. our specialized firearms a category of items which cover a number of different models and types the purpose and scope of these are to address increasing level of firepower and body armorutilized by ri11 subjects they are special circumstances where we need immediate tactical resources to respond to deadly threats and people hor equipped with items such as these to much that we have them available to the special response team. the firearm and ammunitions, are specific to deadly force

situations. specific to threats of death or body low injury. we do have some that have capabilities that are specialized will see in the following slides. the over all mission of the firearm system to be able to defeat deadly force situations. these are not pulled rifles they are item this is are assigned to individuals after training and qualification. there is a category here of an item a submachine gun and select fire pistols in the inventory about in the used in response to things. we will cover that in a few slides. regarding authorized use, this is a reasonable expectation the rifle may be needed to threat of death or body low injury. use of force policy covered the

items required to deal with this. some examples are here in the slide to give you a picture of some of the situations and circumstances when these may be deployed and used. situations where a deputy may participate an armed encounter faced with accurate and effective firing long range. situations where a deputy respects the need to exceed firepower or individual who may be a barricade person with a hostage. also a situation where the suspect may be wearing body armorand these are all situations needed authorized and questioned by a supervisor also list in the our policy we need to dispatch an animal. all policies are governed by the

use different luspecific to use of force policy. 835a subsection c for the california penal code. it is in the necessary to read through all of them you have this as a reference. 835ac california code, in regards to possession of this usage and our training. california penal code 33220 section b covers all of that. 1 thing to mention is we have a patrol rifle training course. we have nonsrt members who are trinned in and kwulified with the use of long rifles. or patrol rifles. they must pass the training. this is described hereby and there is a refresher training.

those other only individuals this can deploy rifles. it is in the issued to everybody in the department. >> specific to the special personnel we have a few items listed. most of these platforms are rifle platforms. when you seat different models it references the different length and barrel. the different types of weapons this are used here. use different ammo as well. one thing of note exit will cover it in the following slide is i want to mention that the h and k mp5 at the bottom is something brought up. by our collaborators and something we discussed at length buzz it is in the currently deployed. but it is an item which i will

cover in another slide. the next slide gives you an idea of the training the srt does go through for rifle training. in addition to the ratify course, all posts certified swat courses in the state of california require a component involving rifle training. there is a bianual rifle qualification twice a year members have to pass that. they do have month low training on the rifles in addition to the prerequisites. our sniper teams are all srt member and have to pass the specialized post course, which certified them in ratify and rifle and sniep are cape ats they are 3-5 people qualified on the use of one motor furthermore we have here. the lwrcrepr system.

the mp5 submachine gun which was a topic of discussion with collaboration on the listing and usage of the item. the platform is one that is a little different than the other rifles i mentioned. this platform is a 9 millimeter and category, submachine gun. when we discussed this, in terms deplayment it is something i have been trainod and familiar with. something i know has a usage in specific situations. but unfortunately we have in the bruour team up to ped on the training of this item. there are trinning considerations and focus on the other item its is manage we will continue to maintain in our

inventory but not currently being used similar to the reconscout. the training requirementos this are also specific to the motor form itself. it is codified in the previously referenced penal codes. i highlight this because it is prit and apart from the other ratify platforms we have listed. any questions on that? okay. this is the left category offer specialized rifles this is our sniper rifles. the acronym is the respectid engagement precision rifle. it is a specific round to the sniper team. it is to ensure we engage hostile threats and threats at a great upon distance and

accuracy. our authorized use is for the types of events. andor sniper team members come mroelt a certified course specific to this operation. these are single fire weapons they are in the capable of any other sort of select fire situation. and they are all legally prescribed and regulated under the guidelines we mentioned. is there question about the sniper rifles we have? next slide. we listed out the costs associated with the types of platforms i mentioneds well as the ammunition referenced in interest of time i want to mention this we have those costs in following slides if we can move on to the next one.

this slide presents information specific to the platforms mentioned. more detail in terms of the capability and when type of operating system they all have. >> i want to emphasize gwen these are only used in specific types of situations to increase our abilities and capability in case we defeat body armoror violent suspect hos have similar capabilities. i just jumped them i mentioned everything my previous comments for the purpose. this slide references had i mentioned.

again, the costs are here. for reference on the platforms and the ammunition used. go ahead the next slide, please. i think this is the list of ammunition and types this is used. and if there are no questions we can go to the inventory table for reference. gives you an idea of the different platforms specific to all references to specialized firearms i mentioned so far. moving on, the following parts of presentation will refer to no longer referred to specialized firearms but diversionary devices other platforms less lethal. with regards to diversion devices, flash banks. we have these. specific to usage by the special

response team only for specific types of high risk warrants or events or hostage rescue. this device is a class c explosive that emits a bright light and noise to distract dangerous individuals. i can say from personal experience it is loud and bright. there is a requirement for all those members of the srt, again to make sure they participated in the swat school which covers the use of diversionary devices and covered during then yell training cycle for the team. is there questions on this device? moving on... we have 40 millimeter chemical age launchers to fire projectile

temporary incapacitate subjects it is less lethal. we have instance of civil unrest which do occur. we have not as an agency deployed these during that type of situation. we do have we have deployed upon 37 millimeter i will discuss in a following slide. the 40 millimeters we have not deployed. chemical agents in reference to these are specific low smokes, liquids and powders that are designed to temporaryly disable a person.

this is a less lethal force option and it significantly reduces risk of injury. next slide. >> and -- sheriff, just i think there has been concern not in upon the deployment but the fact that in confined close quarters in jails and that -- as long as these things are in the launched at heads or vital parts they achieve the mission if launched incorrect low could be lethal. does the policy address that. >> yes, this will be covered when we get to 37 millimeter launcher. but i understands the upon concern because as we talk about the types of platforms the chemical agent launchiers are

designed to dispense the chemical but the target is in the a person the your and the concerns about a jail setting we have confined space environment this is we operate in. ourselves are i think 5 by 9 now. we do have those situations. we have larger areas as well we cover. these specific 40 millimeter chemical agent launchers for chemical agents the less lethal impact i can cover this now. you mentioned chair peskin there have been concerns about the use of our projectile impact weapons

the then millimeter launcher. . and this deploy am when used our targeting area is specific at this time low the leg that's the only your we qualify and train our people on in term it is of targeting somebody with this. it is less lethal impact. it is designed to strike somebody with a rubber impact round. butt target area is specific to the lower leg -- is not intended to strike anybody any other part of the body. the potential is there. we rescue noise that the training issing specific to one area of the body. >> hope that answers your question. >> thank you, sheriff. >> and if we go to the next slide, one thing i like to note you see from the graphic that this is a very the platform is different than the others you saw. the potential for us to mix this

up with lethal options is not there. we don't have a shotgun designed to provide less impact. this device is specific to that task. and very different from the other platforms. our tal afar can't confuse the plat furthermore they are using. next slide. this is informative lied on when we use. again, this is -- only to strike people to stop them. not intended to be lethal. you see it is basically a large doily rubber. round. next slide. this is just me saying to you i

would appreciate -- the authorization of the continued use of the safety equipment that we out lined. i believe there is a few more slides after this one. that there were question in regards to the reporting press. when we do receive complaints about the use of any of the items or misconduct alleged, we currently report that to the department of police accountability. the use of anything in our military equipment use policy, or any situation where there may be a disregard for healing or safety of a person is someone we will reference and do investigate individually and independently. i want to rescue noise our

oversight committee and on coming inspector general when he is established i'm sure that will have a component of the investigative process in the allegations. i want to mention this although we partner with the police accountability, we recognize that may change. and this is it for the presentation itself. the next slide is my official ask of you if there are questions. >> good. thank you, sheriff. are there questions or comments from committee member sns >> yes. supervisor chan. >> thank you chair peskin and thank you sheriff for presenting today and joining us in person and here in the chamber i proeshth that. thank you very much. i have some questions over all of the presentation. this is were seems to most of

the military grade equipments are ewe likewised used by the [no response] team and could you let us know what is the total staffing and how many are on the special response team of >> we are at 72% staffing level. however we are authorized for 960 sworn staff members. 670 and 700 now for active sworn members. of this, we have about 120 members of the emergency services unit and of that we have 50 members of the srt. >> thank you and then i concure with chair peskin mentioning out of the sorry. i concur this out of the 30-day which you have to conduct a community engagement or

community meeting i think you are oversight commission is appropriate. it is always proper low notice exclude properly staffed and able to provide translation services. i do think this perhaps it is a great venue in appropriate event or platform for an upon community engagement i appreciate thenual report of listing out about how the equipments were used and complaint and concern receive concerning the equipment. could you wang me through a bit i'm trying tonld. so a sum row of complaints or concerns received concerning the equipment? could you categorize for me how the complaints or concern would look like is it every day -- residents or anybody injured or

both as staff or citizens that how does complaints and concern come about? joy appreciate that question. . i hope i can give you perspective. in my experience when we have deployed in the public settings whether for a large scale event where there men disruption or use of force mioccur, we receive complaints in the just to the agency specific low we get them at internal affairs department. and we also get complaints via the website. people are able to submit complaints directly to us. we do because we have partnered with department of police accountability people are familiar with being able to go to them with complaints. usual low in regards to use of special equipment, we have had people express concerns in the past with the use of the

deployed but in the discharged had they see it they wander what it is and sometimes we get inquiries on that. we have tasers that is a use of force we get questions on and people have questions about that that we receive through the avenues. >> thank you. and i appreciate that the annual include internal audits. i do appreciate listed here. as an annual report. i have no questions and thank you, sheriff for your presentation today. thank you chair peskin. >> thank you, supervisor mandelman, comments or questions? >> no. why don'ts we open item 8 up to public comment. >> yes, members of the public. >> excuse me. >> members of public who wish to poke on this item and joining in

person line up to speak at this time. for those remote call 415-554-0001, access code: 2489 495 5993 ## then star 3 to enter the speaker's queue. we have in person commenters. >> i'm arthur an artist and small business owner in district 9. hillary ronen is my supervisor she spoke my mind at the last meeting. serving on faes and social occurrence the quaker meeting house is a block away. i'm representing our local friends meeting and i'm working with american friend's committee

nationally. why are we here? the sheriff's department submitted a principle to arm robots at the last minute on a friday for a board of supervisors meeting. on a tuesday. denoticing the public of rit to comment for 30-days to be considered, discussd and defiernd what circumstances they will be used. i thought it was disingent with us to militarize the police with you transparency when the points was to keep the public record of purchases and use. there remember in guide lines for the robots for loathal force. why now. they were designed for surveillance. retrofitting them will require try and error. >> sir you are welcome to peek to this but that's not before us

on the sheriff's department and the police department are 2 different department this is is a different policy you refer to the matter this committee dealt with in the board of supervisors dealt with relating to the police department policy not the sheriff's department policies but please, go ahead. >> sorry about this. since robots were introduced to the police department 10 years ago cutches have been lethal reports for the military this are more agile in maneuvering in spaces and driven biartificial intelligence they will not succeed the sheriff the will in the succeed in adding on westbound weapons than i will come become and ask for more machine tow buy the robots designed for killing people. all the kill are robot system distracting us from the issues why is sf the only -- your

speaker time elapsed. >> there is no -- kill are robots police department sheriff's policy are 2 different things and the kill are robot issue is not present here in the sheriff's department. next speaker, please. >> is there anybody in the chamber withhold like to comment. no further parties in the room we can move on to the phone line. >> i'm jennifer shoe i work for the american frebldz's service committee i like to thank chair peskin. we had some policy disagreements, [inaudible] very receptive to our feedback and the policy you are considering is improved from the original

proposed policy. there did remain compliance gaps which we sent e mill to the committee. [inaudible] working to address those and ask rowels to passport that work. i noticed references to 3 things that sound the same but are different usage, authorizationed use and use of force. usage in the presentation seems to be a description of capabilities for use history. the policy authorizes more than that. if a weapon has not been used in the passed but authorized it can be deployed in the future f. a drone to document crime scenes but authorized for krud use the use would authorize the drone use for first amendment assembly even if past usage was not for that. this could be extended all the equipment today.

use of a weapon is not the same as use of force. state law covers use never mentioned use of force. bring out an assault weapon and hold it that's use of the weapon even if never fire today is use of a weapon. state law covered use and does in the mention use of force. encourage members to raise questions today inform the public and community about the authorized use, how that authorized use vary from past and check in on the sheriff's department to report on all future military equipment uses. time e lapsed. so i will ask you a question in the first instance relates to the unmachined aircraft, drone. what you are suggesting is that there be provisions in the

policy that indicate representification set forth by the sheriff which is that now that it shall not be used for surveilling first amendment activities is this when you are saying? >> it is very similar. when i'm asking is that this committee consider the authorized use and whether that matches past use and whether it should match past use. and so i will encourage the committee to ask for more restricted use not just for the drones but all of the weapons. the submachine guns are authorized for any time the srt would like to use it. not authorized within the department itself but the department could choose to reauthorize them and choose to deploy the submachine gun. the policy would be adopted by the ordinance would allow that

use of submachine guns. >> you are saying more narrow -- drafted, go ahead. >> >> sorry jennifer. i was going to ask if this answers your question. why kinds of. >> any questions and thank you for engaging the department over the left several week and thank you to my staff who has been helping behind the scenes. any questions from members if in the prosecute seed to the next caller. can you hear me? >> yes. >> hi. i'm john and i'm with the american friends's committee justice program. and we do deeply appreciate the

sheriff's engagement with us with concerns and questions about the policies that are required by state law. i just to build on the exchange that occurred, we do support because the sheriff said it but it is in the in the written policy restriction on the use of drones for survilling first amendment activities. that especially because the sheriff's office has jurisdiction for prosecute tests this occur in the civic center. that would be upon important. similarly, we are concerned that the use of projectiles and chemical agents in the jail have restriction like most jails in prison in california significant portion of people in the jail experience mental ill knows and suffer from physical disabilities in the state

prisons most use of force are against people with mental illness. well is for some of the equipment i consideration of the vulnerability of populations against which this mike used but a consideration of those afford deciding to launch any of these weapons for what is -- and that would be important piece for the use in the jail. where you have significant populations of people who are vulnerable. and we want to say we support the chair to suggestion of an annual supervisor chan's support for annual engagement leading at the sheriff's oversight board. it important that space one where there is public comment and public attendance and visibility so that there is that community back dm forth. that is when ab41 is about.

is bringing in the community and elected officials suchs yourself in the process of figure out where the line for the use or nonuse. thank you. next speaker, please. this is [inaudible]. i'm calling. can you turn down the volume on your tv set or computer. we don't hear the background. >> okay. there. thank you. i'm concerned about the use of flash bangs or loud sounds in the jails.

not only because of other people might be around that would be affected but i understand that -- for example, really loud sounds can cause brain damage. and i don't think it is responsible to subject anyone especially not near by people in an enclosed space to such a weapon. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. we have no additional callers on the line. >> okay. public comment is closed. and this is in the handses of board. here. is what i was going to suggest

my covid not with standing. which is one this we ask deputy city attorney pierson to make the following changes to the ordinance. this i mentioned with regard to the recitals. primary low on page 2 to make it accurate to reflect what is happened. i am interested although the lag may not be that significant given when we pass the police department policy and into to attempt to lineup the annual reports on military equipment policies both sheriff and police to be at the same time. so i like to work with the deputy city attorney pierson on that and sheriff, do you have problems with when supervisor chan special i suggested with

regard to on page 4, subsection c having the community engage am meeting be at the sheriff's oversight board? >> i absolutely agree. no problem. why excellent. we make that change. and if you could draft those in the intervenaling week i would take it upon myself, sheriff, and mrs. too to convene one last meeting with the parties to see if there can be further refine ams to the policy between now and next monday. as the city attorney to draft the amendments that i have discussed. i will work with deputy city attorney the appropriate deputy city attorney on those and continue this item one week. and clothes so that you know it is my hope to announce tomorrow

remote low the new committee structure and if i get it together to do that, this would be effective february first we have one left meeting of the old compliment of the rowels committee that has been a pleasure chairing and i want to thank both of you supervisors mandelman and chan for your 2 years together on this body. and i want to thank clerk mr. victor young for his comp tent work as the committee clerk approximate deputy city attorney for giving us consistent and good counsel. and we will have one more meeting before the new compliment guess in affect. on february 1. wednesday. of next week. and with this i make a motion to continue this item a week. >> would you like to adopt the amendments or will you take

those. i can't adopt them buzz they don't exist yet. they are concepts jot motion is continue the matter to january 30, 2023. >> thank you. and i would imagine it is not my place to say that those amendments seemed to be nonsubstantive if it requires another so be it. and with this mr. clerk, thank you, sheriff, see you in a week and in between remote. i don't want to infect you. yesterday, so i hope i did in the infect you. my apol joes and with that mr. clerk read our last item. >> i like to vote on this item prior. >> yea. >> right. good idea. >> yes, on that motion to continue the matter supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. why chair peskin.

>> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. moving on to the last item item 9, ordinance amending the code to decrease from 17 to 13 the number on the rate yen's commission and make revisions qualifications and, pointing authorities for members. >> thank you. mr. young. clothes, as you may know the vet republican commission is a large body of 17 that has had trouble meeting because of its size. it has been recommended with the support of the chair as well as the clerk mary murphy that we shrink the body in size from 17 to 13. we have a letter of support from the chair of the vet republican

affair's commission. this would also change and make broader some of the seat designations. i note that a number of the existing members terms are expiring short low. so this is an appropriate time to do it. the clerk made some suggestions purst. john's to their over arching policies and i will be suggesting an amendment on page 3 to insert a new subsection, subf this says each authority may remove the appointees any time. with or without cause. additionally a member including the chair person when misses 3 regular meetings within a sick month period without approval of the commission at or before each missed meeting shall be deemed to resign from the commission 10 days after the third unapproved

absence the commission inform the members of any such resignation. i will make those amendments which have been circulated to the other members of the body. i want to thank my staff calvin for working with ms. murphy and the members of the commission and if members of rules committee have no questions i like to open up to public comment. there are no members in the chamber. members who are on the phone line -- can call 415-554-0001, access code: 2489 495 5993 ## press star 3 to enter the speaker's queue.

we can take the first caller. >> hello good morning. this it is commissioner vet republican's affair's commission. grateful to hear this item on the agenda. it has been in the works and grateful for all of those that have been will putting in the work behind the scenes. it is really essential we get this pass said. moving from 17 to 13 will allow us to enengage with those who are active in the community. and then in the past year we have been beyond proactive and like to continue moving forward with the solid fundsation for the commission, applying the rowels and a biezing by the laws and holding each other accountable and we could in the do it without you.

thank you and i look forward to working with all of you. >> thank you for your service. and thank you for your support of this ordinance. which of course we suggested. is there further public comment on item 9? >> theory no other speakers on the line. >> okay. public comment is chezed. and i would like to move the amendment that i discussed subsection f. on that motion mr. clerk i roll call. >> on that motion supervisor chan. >> aye. where vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> i believe that our department city attorney has indicate third degree amendment is in the substannive in nature is this correct? >> that's correct i like to move to send the item amended with

recommendation to the full board of supervisors. why on that motion supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> motion passes without objection. >> thank you. we are adjourned for today. see you next week.

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later, you know. cable car museum is free, come on in. take a day. come down. rediscover the city. you can spend as time you want and you don't have to make reservations and it's important to be free because we want them to develop a love for cable cars so they do continue to support whether they live here or other places and people come in and say, yes, i have passed by and heard of this and never come in and they always enjoy themselves. people love cable cars and there's none left in the world so if you want to ride a cable car, you've got to come to san francisco. that what makes the city. without the cable cars, you lose part of that, you know, because people who come here and they love it and they love the history ask they can ride a cable car that has been running since 1888 or 1889. wow! that's something. can't do that with other historical museums. rarely, have i run into anybody from outside who didn't come in and didn't feel better from knowing something about the city. it's a

true experience you'll remember. i hope they walk away with a greater appreciation for the history, with the mechanics with people are fascinated by the winding machine and i hope the appreciation, which is a part of our mission and these young kids will appreciate cable cars and the ones who live here and other places, they can make sure there will always be cable cars in san francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. it's the heartbeat of san francisco that founded the cable and the slot and without the cable cars, yeah, we would lose something in san francisco. we would lose part of its heart and soul. it wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing] [♪♪♪] >> i really believe that art should be available to people for free, and it should be part

of our world, you shouldn't just be something in museums, and i love that the people can just go there and it is there for everyone. [♪♪♪] >> i would say i am a multidimensional artist. i came out of painting, but have also really enjoyed tactile properties of artwork and tile work. i always have an interest in public art. i really believe that art should be available to people for free, and it should be part of our world. you shouldn't just be something in museums. i love that people can just go there, and it is there for everyone. public art is art with a job to do. it is a place where the architecture meets the public.

where the artist takes the meaning of the site, and gives a voice to its. we commission culture, murals, mosaics, black pieces, cut to mental, different types of material. it is not just downtown, or the big sculptures you see, we are in the neighborhood. those are some of the most beloved kinds of projects that really give our libraries and recreation centers a sense of uniqueness, and being specific to that neighborhood. colette test on a number of those projects for its. one of my favorites is the oceanview library, as well as several parks, and the steps. >> mosaics are created with tile

that is either broken or cut in some way, and rearranged to make a pattern. you need to use a tool, nippers, as they are called, to actually shape the tiles of it so you can get them to fit incorrectly. i glued them to mash, and then they are taken, now usually installed by someone who is not to me, and they put cement on the wall, and they pick up the mash with the tiles attached to it, and they stick it to the wall, and then they groped it afterwards. [♪♪♪] >> we had never really seen artwork done on a stairway of the kinds that we were thinking of because our idea was very just barely pictorial, and to have a picture broken up like

that, we were not sure if it would visually work. so we just took paper that size and drew what our idea was, and cut it into strips, and took it down there and taped it to the steps, and stepped back and looked around, and walked up and down and figured out how it would really work visually. [♪♪♪] >> my theme was chinese heights because i find them very beautiful. and also because mosaic is such a heavy, dens, static medium, and i always like to try and incorporate movement into its, and i work with the theme of water a lot, with wind, with clouds, just because i like movements and lightness, so i liked the contrast of making kites out of very heavy, hard material. so one side is a dragon kite,

and then there are several different kites in the sky with the clouds, and a little girl below flying it. [♪♪♪] >> there are pieces that are particularly meaningful to me. during the time that we were working on it, my son was a disaffected, unhappy high school student. there was a day where i was on the way to take them to school, and he was looking glum, as usual, and so halfway to school, i turned around and said, how about if i tell the school you are sick and you come make tiles with us, so there is a tile that he made to. it is a little bird.

the relationship with a work of art is something that develops over time, and if you have memories connected with a place from when you are a child, and you come back and you see it again with the eyes of an adult, it is a different thing, and is just part of what makes the city an exciting place. [♪♪♪]

>> what we're trying to approach is bringing more diversity to our food. it's not just the old european style food. we are seeing a lot of influences, and all of this is because of our students. all we ask is make it flavorful. [♪♪♪] >> we are the first two-year

culinary hospitality school in the united states. the first year was 1936, and it was started by two graduates from cornell. i'm a graduate of this program, and very proud of that. so students can expect to learn under the three degrees. culinary arts management degree, food service management degree, and hotel management degree. we're not a cooking school. even though we're not teaching you how to cook, we're teaching you how to manage, how to supervise employees, how to manage a hotel, and plus you're getting an associate of science degree. >> my name is vince, and i'm a faculty member of the hospitality arts and culinary school here in san francisco. this is my 11th year.

the program is very, very rich in what this industry demands. cooking, health, safety, and sanitation issues are included in it. it's quite a complete program to prepare them for what's happening out in the real world. >> the first time i heard about this program, i was working in a restaurant, and the sous chef had graduated from this program. he was very young to be a sous chef, and i want to be like him, basically, in the future. this program, it's awesome. >> it's another world when you're here. it's another world. you get to be who you are, a person get to be who they are. you get to explore different things, and then, you get to

explore and they encourage you to bring your background to the kitchen, too. >> i've been in the program for about a year. two-year program, and i'm about halfway through. before, i was studying behavioral genetics and dance. i had few injuries, and i couldn't pursue the things that i needed to to dance, so i pursued my other passion, cooking. when i stopped dance, i was deprived of my creative outlet, and cooking has been that for me, specifically pastry. >> the good thing is we have students everywhere from places like the ritz to -- >> we have kids from every area. >> facebook and google. >> kids from everywhere. >> they are all over the bay

area, and they're thriving. >> my name is jeff, and i'm a coowner of nopa restaurant, nopalito restaurant in san francisco. i attended city college of san francisco, the culinary arts program, where it was called hotel and restaurant back then in the early 90's. nopalito on broderick street, it's based on no specific region in mexico. all our masa is hand made. we cook our own corn in house. everything is pretty much hand made on a daily basis, so day and night, we're making hand made tortillas, carnitas, salsas. a lot of love put into this. [♪♪♪]

>> used to be very easy to define casual dining, fine dining, quick service. now, it's shades of gray, and we're trying to define that experience through that spectrum of service. fine dining calls into white table cloths. the cafeteria is large production kitchen, understanding vast production kitchens, the googles and the facebooks of the world that have those types of kitchens. and the ideas that change every year, again, it's the notion and the venue. >> one of the things i love about vince is one of our outlets is a concept restaurant, and he changes the concept every year to show students how to do a startup restaurant. it's been a pizzeria, a taco bar.

it's been a mediterranean bar, it's been a noodle bar. people choose ccsf over other hospitality programs because the industry recognizes that we instill the work ethic. we, again, serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner. other culinary hospitality programs may open two days a week for breakfast service. we're open for breakfast, lunch, and dinner five days a week. >> the menu's always interesting. they change it every semester, maybe more. there's always a good variety of foods. the preparation is always beautiful. the students are really sincere, and they work so hard here, and they're so proud of their work. >> i've had people coming in to town, and i, like, bring them here for a special treat, so

it's more, like, not so much every day, but as often as i can for a special treat. >> when i have my interns in their final semester of the program go out in the industry, 80 to 90% of the students get hired in the industry, well above the industry average in the culinary program. >> we do have internals continually coming into our restaurants from city college of san francisco, and most of the time that people doing internships with us realize this is what they want to do for a living. we hired many interns into employees from our restaurants. my partner is also a graduate of city college. >> so my goal is actually to

travel and try to do some pastry in maybe italy or france, along those lines. i actually have developed a few connections through this program in italy, which i am excited to support. >> i'm thinking about going to go work on a cruise ship for about two, three year so i can save some money and then hopefully venture out on my own. >> yeah, i want to go back to china. i want to bring something that i learned here, the french cooking, the western system, back to china. >> so we want them to have a full toolkit. we're trying to make them ready for the world out there..

>> [gavel] >> good morning. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the january 19, 2023 regular meeting of the government audit and oversight committee of the san francisco board of supervisors i am supervisor dean preston chair of the committee joined by vice chair connie chan and supervisor mandelman. the clerk today is stephanie cabrera and i want thank our team at sf govtv for staffing this meeting. madam clerk any announcements. >> yes the board of supervisors and it says committees are convening hybrid meetings for attendance and public comment and via telephone. the board recognizes that equitable access to essential and will take public comment as follows. first public comment will be taken on each item

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and then to the public comment telephone line. alternatively you can submit comments in writing in two ways and email them to me with the address on the agenda. at s fdot org and if it's my email will be forwarded to the supervisors and part of the final r official file and send to the comments via mail to our address on the agenda. finally items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of supervisors agenda of january 31 unless otherwise stated. thank you chair preston. that includes the announcements. >> thank you. please call item one. >> item one is urging the office office to conduct a southeast rail

station study to be for the san francisco women-owned and minority-owned and disabled veteran-owned businesses. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001 and when prompted enter meeting id 2491-372-0218 and press pound twice if you haven't done dial star three to raise your hand and please wait until your unmuted and we will go to public comment. >> thank you madam clerk. this is sponsored by supervisor melgar who is here joining us today. i want to thank if you for the leadership on this and supervisor melgar the floor is yours. >> thank you so much chair preston and thank you supervisors for hearing this item as well. so this is a resolution requesting that the city administrator conduct a southeast rail station study

for our lbe program and what that is report a measure of how our we program lbe program is doing providing opportunities compared to the representation in the general contractor population so for example if 50% of contractors in san francisco are women owned but only 20% are participating in the lbe program we know we have an area of growth in the program, so backing up as why this is needed at this time you know we have been going through tremendous efforts to recover from the pandemic, and we know that during the pandemic our small businesses suffered particularly, and there's some businesses within the general small business population that suffered more. we know that women-owned

businesses had lower rates of access to loans and lending and all kinds of things so we have never conducted a southeast rail -- disparity study since the program started and we had a program to advantage women-owned businesses and minority-owned businesses and proposition 209 did away with all of that so we quickly pivoted to what is a local business enterprise program. this is an lbe but we never measured it. we never seen whether the program is working as we had intended or if it even reflects the general population of small businesses in the city demographically. i am entered in women-owned businesses and minority-owned businesses and disabled veteran-owned businesses in particular and we know they're the business categories that have less access to capital, less facility with dealing with the

bureaucracy, and you know it is something that i think we can work on within the confines of proposition 209? terms of data gathering and marketing, outreach, technical assistance, all of the things that are perfectly legal to do under the law so i want to thank rachel and sophie for being here and being open and to city administrator chiu. there are changes to the program of the staffing this year. this is not the time to talk about that. this is about the disparity study. i have been working with veterans affairs commission. i commissioner chan and commissioner elliot here today to advance the interests of veteran owned businesses also with the lbe working group. you may remember that last year we did a

wholesale bunch of changes and updates to our 12b program that were long overview -- over due and i think this will generate some of the data we need for the program and make it better and provide contracting opportunities for our small businesses so we can have a city where all votes are listed in this pandemic recovery so with that thank you so much chair preson and we have our deputy city administrator here to make a presentation. >> thank you. welcome. >> thank you. good morning chair preson and supervisors. thank you so much supervisor melgar for introducing this very important resolution. we're very much in support of conducting a disparity study for the lbe program. i think this is an opportunity time and i agree very much it's very important to see the data because we were excited about this resolution we started

conducting research internally on what a disparity study is and what it would look like. my colleen is the one that conducted the research and i want to invite her up to do the presentation and what we found so far and i am here too answer any questions that you have so thank you so much. >> good morning chair preson and supervisors. let me adjust my height. i'm a little on the shorter end. angela is our slide master today so she will pull up slides for us. thank you. good morning everyone. i am a project manager with the contracts reform team and part of the government operations recovery initiative and my first time presenting before a legislative body as a staffer. thank you for this offer and i am happy it's on this topic that i care deeply before and i am sure the members of the lbe

members care about and shout out to everyone watching online or in the audience so it is go ahead and jump into the presentation itself it. angela if you can go to the next slide please. so as supervisor melgar was saying as soon as we heard that this resolution was introduced our office and team was super excited and let's doing some background research so when it comes up before the board of supervisors you can make an informed decision and then if the project -- if the study is going to move forward we can hit the ground running with it so we jumped into to do some research but before i go what the next steps were to look like if we move forward with the disparity study let me take one step back and make sure we're on the same understanding of what a disparity study is so if you can go to the next slide please. supervisor melgar already said a little about this

already but let me share about the technical underlying aspects of the disparity study what what it's supposed to look like and it's an analysis of difference between business utilization versus business availability, and when you look at the difference what is available and what is actually utilized and if you find there's a statistically significant difference between what is utilized given available and what is actually awarded in terms of contracts given what is available and there's a difference there. that's when you have a disparity so that's what a disparity study is and just from that kind of simplified definition alone you can probably tell there's a lot of technical and statistical analysis that comes with it so very often there's a specialized set of consultants but a group of consultants or firms who specialize in doing disparity

studies and they have a methodology that is tried and tested and with stand legal scrutiny so it's a complicated thing to do and this graphic on the screen is a simplified form of what a disparity study would look like because it often involves multiple components and phases so often it involves a legal review where you look at what is the existing legal framework? what is the current practices and policies in place as pertain how contracts are awarded and to mom? and then the actual utilize analysis that looks what were the contracts awarded, to whom, how were they distributed et cetera? and this is within a given timeframe and within a geographic marketplace and then the availability analysis that happens concurrently or simultaneously and who were the businesses that were ready, willing and able to do this work? and between doing the utilization analysis and the availability analysis can you do the

disparity analysis is there a discrepancy what would be expected to be awarded versus what was actually awarded and that's when the disparity and the statistical significance lies. often concurrent or part of a disparity study is also qualitative research to better understand the perspective of the contractor or potential contractor community itself and include people that never bid on a contract or may have bid on a contract but didn't win and understanding their perspectives, what do they feel about the process? what do they think can change? was it by choice they didn't wanting to part of the process or other structural factors that got in the way and participating in public procurement? and that's that part and part of the statistical analysis and the research a consultant who does the disparity study will bring together in a set of recommendations to help a jurisdiction understand if we

identified a disparity what do we next and address that? so that's in a nutshell is what a disparity study is. now in terms of the recommendations from the disparity study if you can turn to the next slide please. they often range in their specificity so some disparity studies will say implement x program while others will tell you implement x program with this level of a targeting goal or a percentage of a bonus et cetera so they can vary in the specificity of their recommendations, but in general you will see that the recommendations typically include what is on this slide here. i won't go through everything but include changing contracting thresholds, unbundling contracts that are large so they can be worked down into smaller scopes of work so that smaller businesses have more of an opportunity to engage in the contracts. there could be networking, mentoring programs et cetera and i will mention our city does a lot of these already, but through this disparity

study in particular the qualitative research part of it we can start to get to the beginning of a program evaluation and understand which of our programs are really working well for our lbe community and which may need improvement and understand that so i wanted to mention that as well. and if you go to the next slide please which jurisdictions have done disparity studies in the past? well, actually a lot of jurisdictions have done disparities in the past and they can range at the state level, the city level or they can even be individual departments within a city or within a jurisdiction and oftentimes when you see departments doing their own disparity studies sometimes it's because it's a condition of funding from the federal grant or something like that, so they will have those, so there's complete list of jurisdictions that did disparity studies and you can review at your leisure and at the next slide so let's say we're moving forward with a

disparity study what would it actually take to do and the cost? in general a disparity study takes 1-3 years to complete because of all the data analysis involved and the qualitative research et cetera and the cost of a disparity study is really going to range from 400,000 to about a million depending on what the scope of the study is so how many departments are you working with? what's the level of data that needs to happen? all of those things factor into the cost and scope of it but i always want to mention yes it takes 1-3 years to complete a study but i want any lbes if they're listening to this presentation to know we're not going to wait on completing a study before we act on moving forward with things that can improve the conditions for lbes communities. when we learn of challenges we will address them as they come but at the same time doing a disparity study is going to be helpful to understand historical disparities

and creating a strong blueprint going forward so i wanted to note that as well. so next slide please. okay. so if we're to move forward with a disparity study what would look like for our city to execute on one? so we have at the city administrator's office outlined seven steps to conduct a disparity study. i'm not going through all of them in-depth but basically further working with the policy bodies to define the scope of the study. then we actually have to conduct a solicitation process to find a consultant to do the study. our office would manage the firm and data clearing and validation would happen and one of the important elements there needs to be a lot of outreach to the community to understand their voices and what they have to say and their experiences so that can be factored into the recommendations going forward as well, so that is the bulk of

the presentation and the final slide is just key take aways kind of the live notes version of this. if you have probably remembering details and a disparity study is business utilization versus availability. there are vendors that specialize in it. it usually includes a legal analysis a lot of statistical and data analysis and qualitative research and take 1-3 years in general and cost $400,000 to a million dollars in general and many jurisdictions have done one in the past so that is it for the presentation side of it and we're happy to take any questions. >> thank you very much and congratulations on your first presentation. >> thank you. >> -- to a legislative body. for all those watching you just gave a master class how to prepare and give one i will say after very long many and congratulations. >> thank you so much

chair preson and you did awesome. >> thank you. my mom will be proud. sorry. >> before we go to public comment chair i just wanted to make a pitch to my colleagues. i know this is going to be a tough budget year. i will fight for these funds in our budget. i think that there is a multiplier effect in low income communities in particular when small businesses are begin of opportunities to thrive in our city especially as we put so much effort into our recovery. i will just tell you a little bit of a personal thing. you know my grandmother was a small business woman in el salvador and completed second grade and went to work when she was 10 years old and became a business woman and a good one despite a second

grade education she could do math as well and put her six kids through university including my mother and had a home and with six kids. the power of small business to provide opportunities for people that wouldn't otherwise have a job or be employed or have entry, for people formerly incarcerated for women, minorrities, for veterans, for people that don't have a clear path in employment is really powerful and i hope you approve this and send it forward with a positive recommendation and i promise i will fight for these funds to make sure that we do this the right way and we pave the way for economic opportunities for all in our city. thank you. >> thank you supervisor melgar. supervisor mandelman. >> i want to thank supervisor melgar and her cosponsor supervisor dorsey for

their work on this and of course the city administrator's office and i think this makes sense and i would like to be added as sponsor. sponsor thank you supervisor. supervisor chan. >> i appreciate the presentation today but actually what kind of alerted me was that the mention about the study that takes up to three years time and this is a cost of the study but meanwhile you're not going to wait to actually make some changes to the program, so what as currently from your standpoint or from the office's standpoint there is existing disparity that you could correct at this moment? >> i'm going to let rachel take that question. >> hi. thank you for your question

supervisor chan. you might have heard earlier that it was mentioned that we have a new government operations team that your office, the board of supervisors actually helped fund last year so we're grateful for that and we're looking how we can do contracting in the city better and specifically do equity in contracting in the city, and so we've had a lot of conversations with the contract monitoring division and departments to see how we can do better, and so what we're really referring to are things that we know that are low hanging fruit we can work on now so for example i think it's difficult right now for small businesses to understand what opportunities are out there for them. we have the information. it's just not easy to find; right? so quickly can turn around and centralize that information and out reach to our small businesses so they have a better opportunity and understanding and transparency of what is out there so that's one small example of many things we're

hearing and work on now. does that answer your question? >> it does and i think that's what it really comes down to. i am in support of this urging you to consider a study because i do think that it's better to actually have all these analysis actually within the premise of percent today so we're actually data driven we're transparent with the changes that we make in the event we find disparity and a gap that we could actually show based on the study this is the reason why we're changing what we're changing so i think that is critical, and i support supervisor melgar's leadership on this, and not only that i really appreciate the leadership. i think the story she's telling to actually put humanity into what we're trying to urge to do and really in this space, but at the same time i would think based on your subject expertise, not only that,

and based on city administrator chiu's expertise in this area around contracts i also urge the city administrator at this time to work with supervisor melgar and her team to also identify along the way what are the disparities gap? i know that supervisor melgar also at the early days when we first took office we actually had that legislation at rules committee which she duplicated the file specifically around just thinking about lbes and what can we do? and it's a lot of work that she's been putting into it and i know two years went by and here we are so i know she's been doing the work as well, so i would urge that this administrator and team work with supervisor melgar's office to really thinking about if there are tweaks that we can do right now what could that look like and what would they be along the way and that parallel path with the study. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you vice

chair chan. i just had a quick question or two before we go to public comment. i'm curious from the presentation you listed a number of other jurisdictions, and i appreciate the research that you all obviously did into other jurisdictions. i am curious from the studies at this point you're able to tell us if there were any just themes that emerged from the findings that jurisdictions made as well as their recommendations understanding that each jurisdiction is different but i am wondering if you thought -- yeah, things in multiple jurisdictions that maybe are things we should be anticipating may come out of this study? >> there's a couple of things to kind of unpack there so one your former comment yes it's very jurisdiction based because each jurisdiction has a different history with discrimination so the specific groups that experienced disparity and the extent of the

disparity will differ between jurisdictions but i think if you go back to slide i think the slide with the typical recommendations which is number four there's any number of recommendations that can come out of the disparity study and i tried to choose the ones that i think are more common among the disparities that i have seen so things like unbounding contracts is a really big deal for small businesses because oftentimes the scope of contract is written way too large for a small business to effectively compete and engage in it so that's one thing that often comes out. there are other things around networking, mentorship and not just thinking about procurement as the issue but recognizes it's a manifestation of upstream issues and discriminatory factors and barriers what is adjacent to procurement? to the supervisor's part and the access to

capital? who opens businesses in the first place and get access to capital too. the disparity study looks at this point in the business spectrum but there are so many things to address and the disparity studies i have seen answer the marketplace conditions as well. >> great. thank you very much and the other question i had was just on the timeframe so trying to understand there's a 1-3 year estimate. i am curious why it takes up to three years and if there's any things that the board can do to help that be on a shorter timeline sorry is that the time it takes to do the work? >> i think part is a function how long it takes because often time us have to pull the data out of different systems and within a city like ours different departments may have different systems

and data harmonization that needs to help and the data qualitative research takes a while and you want sufficient time for the lbes and the community and people within the community to share their thoughts and if you have one or two public meetings it's not a enough and have a timeframe to engage and meet people where they are so some thoughts there. >> go ahead. >> one thing that we can do actually to speed up not necessarily the research piece but we can hit the ground running right now even before funding takes place and develop the solicitation for the study so we plan to take that step now so when we're able to fund it we can issue the solicitation and get going. >> great. thank you, and i would also like to be add as a cosponser to this and thank again supervisor melgar for your leadership and unless there are other questions or comments let's go ahead and open up public comment on this item. >> thank you mr.

chair i will note the cosponsorship. are there any members of the public that would like to make comments on item one please line up on the right and for remote members please press star three. for those on hold please indicate that the system is unmuted. >> good morning supervisors. my name is hanley chan and raised in san francisco and disabled veteran. i highly support this study. this will give small businesses and minority and veterans a leg up for the contracts. the state of california established the disabled veteran-owned in 1989 under the code as cited to primarily help disabled veterans compete more effectively for a portion of these dollars and promote self reliance for california disabled veterans by offering veterans the opportunity to gain experience in

business while sharing their expertise with their citizens of california and provide a goal of awarding 3% of state contracts to disabled veterans. if the state has the program why can't we? i heard the study it's the first of its kind. let's make history. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello supervisors. my name is courtney veterans affairs commissioner. i'm a women-owned, minority-owned and a service disabled veteran-owned business and i have been registered in the state of california as a small business for at least five years. i'm a little confused. i support this research you about i'm also a little confused because i don't see addressing what the real problem is. the problem is we are not fulfilling these contracting needs, and i've had companies who

sent me paperwork to be a subcontractor. i filled it out. they got the contract. i was never contacted, so if you do your data research and you ask the company how many small businesses have you did? they just give you a number. how are we going to measure if these small businesses and services disabled businesses are really in the contract? and the study is one to three years but are we going to be having some kind of results? we need to be looking at the numbers. how much money are the small businesses making? and get to a point where small business don't want to apply for the city because they're so discouraged and they can't get it and also there's people who always get contracts, and i apply for a contract here. that company was a large company and did not need the money and i'm a small business that had the result and wasn't able to get it so if you get

research do research that will get results and know that the small businesses are actually making money. thank you. >> thank you. >> are there any additional members of the public to make comment? seeing no additional comment we will go to the phone line. there are seven callers and please forward the first caller. >> good morning. my name is omar farmer. i'm a veteran and blackmail and in san francisco for years. i appreciate this disparity study. this is absolutely an area of growth as the supervisor said, and it will bring more aspiring small business owners into the fold which is good for the business community overall. as someone who tried to do business in san francisco and other cities i can relate to wishing that legislative bodies would conduct

more qualitative research as the presenter said and have the issue clearly illustrated to them and how growth is needed so you can figure how to move forward. that would lead to more equitable outcomes for the group mentioned. that's all. thanks. >> thank you for the comment. may we please have the next caller. >> good morning supervisors. this is anne cervantes and i am representing the san francisco latino and black builders association, and my involvement with small business policy through the years is over 35 years from then to current. i want to recommend that you don't have to do a full blown disparity study. the data that the sst ea used could be utilized and what we need to focus on utilization and availability in order to

determine the gap and the solutions to those gaps in utilization. as you know and we're keeping stats separately that from 2004 to currently there's been a 78% drop in african-american owned businesses in the city. along with that there's a 75% drop in latino owned businesses in the city. what we need to understand is why there are not more bipoc businesses in the city and from what i hear on the ground right now it's essential to get this data and you encourage the departments to go back to tracking their data as they did prior to 2009 because right now it's difficult for the department to get data from the departments and they're hiding stuff so i just wanted to add those comment and to back on it's really

crucial this get done very quickly and you're not going to have to spend over $400,000 in order to do this disparity study and i believe it can be done in a year and that's just from the experience and working with communities and organizing testify and to know what the issues are with each of the departments but also the most important thing is enforcement. enforcement of -- >> i apologize. your time has elapsed. thank you for your comments. may we please have the next caller. >> good morning supervisors. this is alex chiu. i'm the president of the san francisco coalition for economic equity and a san francisco resident. our organization is a coalition of business organizations that are located in san

francisco. we feel that it's important to have a disparity study. it's long overdue. minority-owned businesses have been struggling in san francisco even before the pandemic and ever since the pandemic it's just gotten worse so we strongly support the disparity study and ask for your approval. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. may we please have the next caller. >> hello. my name is bruce and i happen to be the president of the national association of minority contractors northern california chapter. i stand shelter to shoulder with many other organizations for this in fairness in this space. can you draw a straight line from the implementation of 209 to the downward trend that we see that is

pervasive in contracting here not only san francisco but in the whole state of california. one of the things that the majority culture does is look at 209 or the lack of a disparity study in the first line of defense of maintaining that unfair infrastructure there, so you're going to have deal with because it's going to come up that you can't just indiscriminately take action without having the action to support it so i support the implementation of this with all due urgency 209 has been more effective psychologically than it was envisioned to be and i urge us to be extremely aggressive with a high sense of urgency to reverses the downward trend and the lack of opportunities out there. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. we

currently have six callers on the line and four on the queue. may we please have the next caller. >> good morning supervisors. i hope you can hear me. can you hear me okay? >> yes we can hear the speaker. >> okay great. my name is dr. matthew [inaudible]. i'm the president of the san francisco african-american chamber of commerce and also of human kind sheer planet divided by norms. just like the last speaker said 209 decimated the african-american businesses, not just in san francisco but in the state. the disparity study will confirm that equity doesn't exist and therefore no availability. that's become like a shooting range. we need the supervisors to think about how do you have programs

that would ensure that businesses do exist from this communities even before the disparity studies confirmed they don't exist. it's kind of sad that we're going to do a disparity study that is going to confirm the damage that 209 did by proving the availability is not there. therefore you can't make any distinct policy positions based on increasing the number not using the existing number which is a decimated number to establish policy. that is the travesty of this kind of policy with the knowledge with existing law that disseminated the result that you're going to get but without any waive infusing future growth into that result. that's what the disparity studies would do for you. it would give you the data

but in the qualitative analysis you will get data from people based on their experience but the interpretation is also based on whoever you hire to make the recommendation. that's also another -- [inaudible] that you. >> i apologize for the interruption. thank you so much for your comments. your time has elapsed. may we please have the next caller. >> good morning supervisors. my name is lamar, president of asian inc.. we're an economic equity organization and stand shoulder to shoulder with the organizations here. we agree with the previous comments of the speakers and others including ms. chan, mr. wellington and others. it's important to note -- well, i will first say thank you to supervisor melgar for your primary sponsor should have the legislation as well as to the district six supervisor, supervisor dorsey. asian inc. is located

in district six and appreciate your leadership on this issue supervisor. we appreciate the deputy city administrator's comments about equity and contrasting and appreciate the comment about soliciting the study sooner rather than later. under the leadership of the out going director there is a great deal of data that has been captured. disparity studies typically measure availability and utilization. the division has the lbe utilization tracking system that provides as well quarterly reports to the board of supervisors so there's a great deal of data on utilization. availability. it was said as the dwindling availability decimates the city's ability to respond to the needs of low value real properties and we have to do. >> . >> local business enterprises and -- was on the ballot.

unproposition it failed. we're [inaudible] with 209. we have to do something different. lbes local business enterprises with a solution. they hire locally and it's important to note when you support local businesses you support employment. we stand in solidity with the black and as land and other minority-owned business communities. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. there's no other callers in the queue. >> thank you madam clerk. public comment on this item is now closed. [gavel] and supervisor melgar any final thoughts? okay. well let's go ahead and i would like to make a motion to recommend to the full board with recommendation madam clerk please call the roll. >> on the motion to recommend the item to the full board vice chair chan.

>> aye. >> supervisor mandelman. >> aye. >> supervisor preston. >> aye. >> there are three ayes. >> the motion passes and thanks again to supervisor melgar and to the public commenters and presenters. madam clerk please call items two through 12 together for closed session. >> thank you. today's litigation agenda is items 2- 12 and various ordinances and resolutions regarding settlements for lawsuits and unlitigated claims. members of public who wish to comment on 2- 12 should call 415-655-0001. when prompted enter id 2491-372-0218 then press pound and pound again. if you haven't done so please dial star three to speak. the system will prompt that you raised your hand. please wait until you have been unmuted and you can begin your

comments. are there any members of the public to make public comments on items 2- 12? seeing no in person public comment. there are zero callers on the line. >> thank you madam clerk. public comment on the closed session items is now closed. [gavel] >> and on the motion to convene in closed session please call the roll. >> vice chair chan. >> aye. >> member mandelman. >> aye. >> preson. >> aye. >> there are three aye oses the motion. >> thank you. the . >> closed session they voted to forward items 2- 12 with a unanimous vote. >> thank you madam clerk. i would like to not disclose the closed session and call the roll. >> on the motion vice chairman. >> aye.

>> member mendel man. >> aye. >> member preston. >> aye. >> there are three ayes. >> thank you. is there any additional business. >> there is no additional business. >> thank you madam clerk. we are adjourned. [gavel]

>> when i look at an old neon sign that's working or not working, i feel the family business that was in there. >> since 2009, citywide, sf shines, has supported businesses and sites like the ones that receive new neon signs. >> you know, sf shines is doing an amazing job to bring back the lighting and the neon glow of san francisco. >> sf shines is such an amazing program, and i can't think of another program in another city that gives matching gunned funds to store owners, mom and pop owners, and if they've got a neon sign, they've really got

a great way to advertise their business. >> this is a continuation of the sf shines program. >> focusing other neon signs is relatively new to us. of the seven neon signs, we've invested about $145,000. >> a good quality sign costs more, but it lasts infinitily longer. as opposed to lasting five years, a good neon sign will last 15 to 20 years. >> in san francisco, the majority of neon signs are for mom-and-pop businesses. in order to be able to restore these signs, i think it gives back to your community. >> part of the project has to do with prioritizing certain signs in the neighborhood based on their aesthetics, based on

their current signs, and base on the history. in the time that we've been here, we've seen a number of signs restored just on eddy street. >> there are a number of signs in the tenderloin and many more that are waiting or wanting to be restored. i have worked with randall and al, and we've mapped out every single one of them and rated them as to how much work they would need to get restored. that information is passed onto sf shines, and they are going to rank it. so if they have x budget for a year, they can say all right, we're going to pick these five, and they're putting together clusters, so they build on top of what's already there. >> a cluster of neon signs is sort of, i guess, like a cluster of grapes. when you see them on a corner or on a block, it lights up the neighborhood and creates an ambient glow. if you havy got two of three of

them, you've created an atmosphere that's almost like a movie set. >> some of the hotel, we've already invested in to get those neon signs for people to enjoy at night include the elk hotel, jefferson hotel, the verona, not to mention some we've done in chinatown, as well as the city's portal neighborhood. >> we got the fund to restore it. it took five months, and the biggest challenge was it was completely infested with pigeons. once we got it clean, it came out beautiful. >> neon signs are often equated with film noir, and the noir genre as seen through the hollywood lens basically depicted despair and

concentration. >> you would go downtown and see the most recent humphrey bogart film filled with neon in the background. and you'd see that on market street, and as market street got seedier and seedier and fewer people continued to go down, that was what happened to all the neon strips of light. >> the film nori might start with the light filled with neon signs, and end with a scene with a single neon sign blinking and missing a few letters. >> one of my favorite scenes, orson welles is chasing

rita hayworth with neon signs in the background. >> i think what the office of economic and workforce development is very excited with is that we'll be able to see more neon signs in a concentrated way lit up at night for visitors and most especially residents. the first coin laundry, the elm hotel, the western hotel are ones that we want to focus on in the year ahead. >> neon signs are so iconic to certain neighborhoods like the hara, like the nightcap. we want to save as many historic and legacy neon signs in san francisco, and so do they. we bring the expertise, and they bring the means to actually get the job done. >> people in tenderloin get really excited as they see the signs relit.

as you're driving through the tenderloin or the city, it pretty much tells you something exciting is happening here. >> knee an was created to make the night more friendly and advertise businesses. it's a great way of supporting and helping local businesses. >> there's so many ways to improve public safety. the standard way is having more eyes on the street, but there's other culturally significant ways to do that, and one those ways is lighting up the streets. but what better way and special way to do that is by having old, historic neon signs lighting up our streets at night and casting away our shadows. >> when i see things coming back to life, it's like remembering how things were. it's remembering the hotel or the market that went to work seven days a week to raise their money or to provide a service, and it just -- it

>> he is a real leader that listens and knows how to bring people together. brought this department together like never before. i am so excited to be swearing in the next chief of the san francisco fire department, ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome, jeanine nicholson. (applause).

>> i grew up total tomboy, athlete. i loved a good crisis, a good challenge. i grew up across the street from the fire station. my dad used to take me there to vote. i never saw any female firefighters because there weren't any in the 1970s. i didn't know i could be a fire fighter. when i moved to san francisco in 1990, some things opened up. i saw women doing things they hadn't been doing when i was growing up. one thing was firefighting. a woman recruited me at the gay-pride parade in 1991. it was a perfect fit. i liked using my brain, body, working as a team, figuring things out, troubleshooting and

coming up with different ways to solve a problem. in terms of coming in after another female chief, i don't think anybody says that about men. you are coming in after another man, chief, what is that like. i understand why it is asked. it is unusual to have a woman in this position. i think san francisco is a trailblazer in that way in terms of showing the world what can happen and what other people who may not look like what you think the fire chief should look like how they can be successful. be asked me about being the first lbgq i have an understands because there are little queer kids that see me. i worked my way up. i came in january of 1994. i built relationships over the years, and i spent 24 years in

the field, as we call it. working out of firehouses. the fire department is a family. we live together, eat together, sleep in the same dorm together, go to crazy calls together, dangerous calls and we have to look out for one another. when i was burned in a fire years ago and i felt responsible, i felt awful. i didn't want to talk to any of my civilian friends. they couldn't understand what i was going through. the firefighters knew, they understood. they had been there. it is a different relationship. we have to rely on one another. in terms of me being the chief of the department, i am really trying to maintain an open relationship with all of our members in the field so myself and my deputy chiefs, one of the priorities i had was for each of us to go around to different

fire stations to make sure we hit all within the first three or four months to start a conversation. that hasn't been there for a while. part of the reason that i am getting along well with the field now is because i was there. i worked there. people know me and because i know what we need. i know what they need to be successful. >> i have known jeanine nicholson since we worked together at station 15. i have always held her in the highest regard. since she is the chief she has infused the department with optimism. she is easy to approach and is concerned with the firefighters and paramedics. i appreciate that she is concerned with the issues relevant to the fire department today. >> there is a retired captain who started the cancer

prevention foundation 10 years ago because he had cancer and he noticed fellow firefighters were getting cancer. he started looking into it. in 2012 i was diagnosed with breast canner, and some of my fellow firefighters noticed there are a lot of women in the san francisco fire department, premenopausal in their 40s getting breast cancer. it was a higher rate than the general population. we were working with workers comp to make it flow more easily for our members so they didn't have to worry about the paper work when they go through chemo. the turnout gear was covered with suit. it was a badge to have that all over your coat and face and

helmet. the dirtier you were the harder you worked. that is a cancer causeser. it -- casser. it is not -- cancer causer. there islassic everywhere. we had to reduce our exposure. we washed our gear more often, we didn't take gear where we were eating or sleeping. we started decontaminating ourselves at the fire scene after the fire was out. going back to the fire station and then taking a shower. i have taught, worked on the decontamination policy to be sure that gets through. it is not if or when. it is who is the next person. it is like a cancer sniper out there. who is going to get it next. one of the things i love about the fire department. it is always a team effort.

you are my family. i love the city and department and i love being of service. i vow to work hard -- to work hard to carry out the vision of the san francisco fire department and to move us forward in a positive way. if i were to give a little advice to women and queer kids, find people to support you. keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep trying. you never know what door is going to open next. you really don't. [cheers and

>> okay good afternoon. the meeting will come to order. welcome to january 22, 2023 of the land use transportation meeting of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'm supervisor melgar, chair of the committee joined by vice chair dean preston and board president aaron peskin who is joining us remotely. the committee clerk today is erica major and are i also like to acknowledge michael (inaudible) at sfgovtv for staffing this meeting. madam clerk. >> the board and committees are convening hybrid meeting that alloy inperson attendance and public comment while providing remote access via telephone. the board recognizes

that equitable public access is essential and will take public comment as follows. first taken on each item. those in person will be allowed to speak first and then move to the remote call in. those watching on tv, you can see the number streaming across the screen. the number is 415-655-0001. again, 415-655-0001 and enter the meeting id24845342047 and press pound and pound again. when connected you will hear the meeting discussion but muted and listening mode only. when the item of interest comes up and public comment is called those in person should line up to speak and those on the telephone should press star 3. on the telephone please remember to turn down your television and radio and listening devices . we will take public comment

for those in person first and go to the public call in line. you may submit public comment in writing to myself, the land use transportation clerk. erica.majar (inaudible) made part of the official file. you may also send your written comments via u.s. postal service to city hall. the address is 1 dr. carton b goodlett places room 244 san francisco california 94102. finally items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of surprisers agenda january 31 unless otherwise stated. madam chair. >> thank you so much madam clerk. please call item 1. >> ordinance amending the planning code to allow night time entertainment as principally permitted use in the folsom street transit

district removing certain restrictions and affirming appropriate findings. members of the public who wish topoid comment on item 1 call the number on the screen. 415-655-0001 and meeting id is 2 (484) 534-2047 and press pound and pound again. if you have not done so and like to speak just need to prez press star 3. >> thank you so much madam clerk. so we welcome supervisor dorsey to the committee. i understand we have aaron star here to make a presentation but before we bring him up, supervisor dorsey, the floor is yours. >> thank you chair melgar and supervisor peskin and colleagues for having me today. to talk about something i'm exciting to see moving forward. the legislation i'm here to move forward today is a much needed planning code update to support night time entertainment in western soma, which is home to one of the

city core night life corridors and home to ledger and lgbtq cultural district. prior to the 1960's a handful of bars and queer night life establishments popped up throughout the city. in 1962, the first leather bar in soma opened and in the year's following more queer night life and retail establishments opened in the south of market, tenderloin and castro. folsom street in my district became the anchor for a virgining queer community with more dproget growth in the 70's. the two decades of growth are fallowed by decades of struggle. one local magazine declared the death of leather and the declaration was prematureed but foreshadows to come that played a role in the city history with the convurance of the aid crisis and dot com

era. the nub (inaudible) entertainment within 200 feet of residential districts. with soma many residential alleys, these buffers are de facto moratorium on new entertainment. one may be surprised to learn in a neighborhood with history of bars and entertainment new establishments are not permitted and existing establishments are not able to get entertainment permits. on a more optimistic note in 2018, the leather lgbtq cultural district was created by a unanimous vote by the board with the vision preserving enhancing and advocating for continuity and vitality of the queer communities. while the zoning and buffer restrixzs are prohibitive for much night life, we must be cognisant of the fact south of market transformed into a residential neighborhood too. one enriched by children

adults and seniors, and while the leather district would like to expand boundaries kwr footprint of bars and night time entertainment there is a desire from the (inaudible) to make sure that soma is friendly to seniors and are children as well. so, there are larger conversations still need to be had about these occasionally competing desire jz what it mean frz the future of downtown but provide to say the two groups are in support of the proposal. the ordinance will permital night time entertainment for properties fronting folsom between 7th street and division street and properties fronting 11th street between howard and division streets. areas with existing night time entertainment. it also exempts the area from the buffers. as aaron star will share, the commission recommended some substantive amendments so after discussion we'll need to continue the item. but i want to say thank you to

the cosponsors mandelman and (inaudible) and suppose this is first effort of the gay caucus here and excited to see what we'll do in our work together on the issue of queer entertainment and beyond. this ordinance will have a immediate impact on businesses. myophilus office has been contact with who failed to get entertainment permits due to the grandfathered zoning. i hope to have your sporetd on the legislation that help the leather and queermunities about vitallow of downtown. with that, happy to pass it off to aaron star from the planning department. >> thank you supervisor. you did a very good job what was in the ordinance so here to say the planning commission heard the item january 12 and recommended approval with what we consider to clerical

corrections but substantive in that they expand the scope of the ordinance and understand supervisor dorsey will be introducing the amendments today and consideration for the amendments and happy to answer questions you have about this or any other aspect. thanks. >> thank you mr. star. supervisor dorsey, would you mind reading them into the record so we can get that in before public comment and i would be happy to move after we come back from public comment. no problem. sorry, i think i have them in front of me also. maybe it was-go to public comment and we'll read them into the record after. >> thank you. any members of the public who would like to speak? seeing none we'll move to remote call in and we have zero callers in the

queue. >> okay. i got this from your aid-sorry, public comment is now closed. so, i think the change mr. star is on page 7 line 25 adding properties fronting folsom between 7th--what are the changes? the planning commission recommended. that we are amending. go ahead. >> so, i believe it is on page 7. properties fronting folsom street between 7th and division street and properties fronting 11th street between howard street and division street.

>> city attorney, can you help us out? >> i wasn't given a hard copy or wasn't sent the amendments. i saw them earlier in the office but don't have them with me. in any evept the amendments are substantive so you can act on them today and the public will have a full week to look at them. but you can generally describe them. either mr. star or supervisor dorsey if you want to generally describe them i think that is sufficient. >> i can describe them if you like . they are addish footnotes to the nighttime entertainment controls one for the regional commercial district so i believe that is page 6 line 2. the text and on the property said fronting folsom between 7th and

division street. and then on page 7 line 6 and permitted on properties fronting folsom street between 7th and division streets. and then on page 9, line 23, putting a footnote after nighttime entertainment, the footnote is one. and then adding the footnote under that district which is wmuo district. see buffer restrictions and exceptions for nighttime entertains in sections 823c9a. and then a similar footnote for the sally district page 10, between line 14 and 15, adding footnote one for nighttime entertainment and see buffer restrictions for night time

entertainment in section (inaudible) >> thank you, mr. star. i are like to make a motion that we amend the legislation as per what mr. star just read into the record. on the motion, supervisor peskin. >> aye. >> supervisor preston. >> aye. >> supervisor mel gar. >> aye. >> 3 ayes. >> i like to make a motion we move this-approve the item as amended. >> continue. >> and continue it to next week. >> on the motion to continue moved by chair melger [roll call] 3 ayes. >> thank you so much and thank you so much supervisor dorsey. madam clerk, please call item number 2. >> item 2 is ordinance

amending the planning code to authorize replacement of elegacy general grocery use with general grocery use excess of 4 thousand square feet in the polk street neighborhood dist rcktd. members who like to speak on item 2 should call the number on the screen, 415-655-0001. the meeting idicize 2484, 5842047 and pound and pound again and if you have not and would like to speak on item 2 just need to press star 3 and you will hear the system indicated you raised your hand. madam chair. >> thank you very much madam clerk. president peskin, thank you so much for introducing the item. the floor is yours. >> thank you madam chair, supervisor preston. this is a no retailer change to the neighborhood commercial district for polk street to allow by right to move into the old real

foods location on polk just north of broadway and expand into an adjoining space. the current neighborhood commercial district legislation for that area is designed to preserve the fine grain small scale nature of neighborhoods commercial storefront. this is a narrowly crafted exceptional. the planning commission while they did recommend this actually called for a broad expansion beyond this neighborhood commercial district, which would have required the supervisor to go and outreach to numerous organizations and individuals and supervisors and i did not have the time to do that because i would like by right to hurry up and open their location. it is scheduled as a committee report because we would like to get this done by the end of the month with a hearing

tomorrow at the full board and on the 31 (inaudible) available and on this call in this meeting can begin his work and have a great grocery store on polk street for the benefit of that neighborhood. i'm available to answer any questions and commend this legislation to you colleagues. i do have by the way a amendment which i circulated to all of you with the appropriate findings, which i can read into the record prior to public comment should you so desire madam chair. >> thank you president peskin. is sam going to make a presentation or he's just available-- >> i don't know what sam desires to do. i told him not i i thought everybody would be delighted as to the amendment. it is a change in the title that says that we were making findings of public necessity convenience

and welfare pursuant to planning code section 302 and the actual language is on page 2, a new subsection 3 from lines 3-7 that says pretty much just that and i welie on the clerk to put in the appropriate planning commission resolution number and supervisor file number which i currently black in that subsection c. >> wonderful. we have any questions? okay. did you want to say something? >> thank you chair melgar and are thank you president peskin for the overview of the ordinance. i just wanted to emphasize the planning commission did hear this item on december 1 of last year during which time they unanimously recommended approval with modification to expand the general grocery provisions to all neighborhood commercial districts. i also want to

emphasize president peskin shared an amended version with the revised section 3 02 findings so this concludes the report and available for questions. >> are thank you. with that, let's go it to public comment. >> seeing no members in the chambers we'll go to remote call in line and looks like we have 6 listners with one person-8 listners with one person in the queue. again, this is item number 2, so just press star 3 if you like to speak and let's take that caller. you have two minutes. hello caller. >> linda chapman from nob hill. i certainly don't see anything against having a larger grocery store. i never was able to find out what store it was or where it was. i had trouble getting

into the hearing today. i assume it is russian hill. i have heard something about molly stone, i don't know if that's what this one is and that might be fine for russian hill. we certainly can use grocery stores and are large grocery stores in the polk neighborhood commercial district. in my part of the polk neighborhood commercial district which is farther south, we might go up to market there. that is for sure. it could be. some of the wealthier people of nob hill might use market like molly stone's or whatever that (inaudible) whole foods or whatever it is up there. we really lost a large grocery stores in our area and (inaudible) was taken away the supermarket and putting in trader joe's. i spoke against that. ours is a neighborhood where people came from the

tenderloin and from china town and people of nob hill mostly aren't rich with lower then average income neighborhood when we did census data because they are small units and a lot of older people. all those people stopped being served. you don't see them anymore in the supermarket. at 1300 bush i guess is, there was a agreement when high-rise built, a safe way was eliminated and (inaudible) nob hid representative handling that one and the agreement she said i suppose it was a conditional use there would always be a large grocery store in that place. two independent grocers went out of business and allowed (inaudible) >> are there any members of the public left in the queue? that was the last caller in the queue.

>> sam, i dont know if you want to add anything. i know you are on the call or were on the call. this is your opportunity to jump in if you have anything to say. >> hi. i got a call in, right? >> you- >> i wasn't planning on saying anything unless anyone had any questions for me directly. >> i don't think we have any questions, but wish you good luck. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> with that, public comment is now closed. president--go ahead supervisor peskin. >> thank you chair melgar and president peskin, thank you for your leadership. please add me as cosponsor and i did want to say that we have buy right in our district on

divisadaro and creative efforts to use a ground floor of existing build to stage out of and use that facility and think by reports from the neighbors it has been very successful model there, so i support this and just wanted to recognize buy right as a good neighbor and sure will be similarly in president peskin's district and not just a good neighbor around the operation of the store but just always being there for the community around most recently having half the staff out at a holiday delivery event and a lot of works that goes unrecognized often in public but very much appreciated by those who's lives are impacted so wanted to thank them for that work. >> thank you

supervisor preston and i just wanted to say to the public commenter that unfortunately we are all delighted by buy right moving to poke street this isn't the (inaudible) molly stones was supposed to be coming in so as a result so they say of the pandemic abandoned that plan at the old limbardi site to the south of this site. >> thank you president peskin did you want to make a motion? >> thank you chair melgar. i'm happy to make a multi-faceted 3 part motion to adopt the section 302 public convenience findings on page 2 and to send the item with recommendation as a committee report. one big motion should take care of it all. >> through the chair, actually because you

are remote i assume we have to take roll call on each motion. >> i'm sorry. victor didn't make me do that this morning. >> oh, victor. >> i shouldn't say that. >> on the motion to amend as read into the record by president peskin, on the motion- [roll call] three ayes. and on the motion to recommend as amended as committee report- [roll call] you have three ayes. >> motion carries. thank you. >> thank you. >> let's call item number 3, please madam clur. >> item 3 is resolution supporting the development of

permanently affordable housing at the sfdmv field office, 377 fell street and urge the state of california to prioritize affordable housing on the site in place of or in addition to the dmv field office. members of the public who wish to provide comment on item 3 call 415-655-0001. the meeting id is 24845342047, pound and pound again and if you have not done so and like to speak press star 3. madam chair. >> thank you madam clerk. supervisor preston, please add me as a enthusiastic cosponse. i see we have sheila (inaudible)ism before we bring her up the floor is yours. >> madam chair, please add me as a cosponsor too. >> thank you both very much. thank you chair melgar and thank you for calendaring this today. there is a lot

of things to bring before the committee, but very much appreciate this one being on the agenda and colleagues, in november introduced this resolution support ing the development of affordable housing at the dmv site in my district and calling on state officials to make use of what i believe to be a perfect opportunity site for affordable housing. this is especially important as we are discussing what will be expected of our city under the new housing element the next autom on the agenda in fact, and i welcome the targets of affordable housing in the next 8 years and if we are serious hitting our goals developing the dmv site should be part of that plan. this is a large lot most of you are probably familiar with it. you have probably been there at some point as it is

the only dmv field office in the city. it is the lot is nearly hundred thousand square feet with a huge parking lot that occupies a entire city block in a incredible transit rich area and a area which has historically welcomed affordable houdsing development eager for more of it, and above all this site is own ed by the state which dramatically reduces the up-front cost of potential development by eliminating the need to acquire the property from private hands. there is history here. in 2008 the california dmv issued a rfp to develop affordable housing on the dmv site and a developer won the bid they were unable to move forward with the mixed use project proposed according to state

officials. in 2021dmv submitted request for funds to replace the fell street field office noting the 60 year old site has significant seismic and structural issues. unfortunately no plans were considered for housing uses at that time and this past year funds were allocated from the state budget to move forward with a field office replacement that would have preserved basically a big parking lot there. when my office learned of these developments at the state level we introduced the resolution that is before us today urging the state to consider affordable housing uses for this site and our office worked closely with assembly member phil ting who districts includes the dmv. assembly member ting and also his senior field

representive naome (inaudible) have been instrumental moving these plans forward. assembly member ting office facilitated meetings with the dmv and department of general services of the state who partnered with our respective offices to try to find a creative solution here and we were thrilled last month when dmv went ahead and released after this resolution, they released a request for interest for the development of housing on the site and the rfi makes clear dmv is open to either affordable housing on-site coexisting with the dmv or rebuilt dmv office or converting the site to affordable housing and moving the dmv to a new home in san francisco. so, this is a really positive development and i want to note something that happened pretty quickly. we are often see government move

slowly and this happened shortly after the meetings assembly member ting and my office were a part of. this is a neighborhood that strongly supports affordable housing on this site in particular and what is clear is that back in 2008 housing was a good idea on the dmv lot and in light of the new ambitious affordable houdsing target a even better idea now. assembly member ting office and our office have been doing out reach and encourage anyone listening to do the same thing to make sure folks know about this opportunity, particularly connections with affordable housing developer so if you are a developer listening and interested in this project, please submit response to the rfi or reach to the state agencies with any questions as soon as possible. there is is a tight timeline on the state's rfi. as i know the dmv is eager

to get this long overdue project for a field office done as soon as possible. before i wrap up i are want to thank again the assembly member ting, mrs. (inaudible) without whom none would be moving and not the pace it is moving and also sincerely appreciate the openness from the state partners, i thank them, including anna lasso executive director of dgs and staff including matthew bender, jason kenny and lisa (inaudible) and then also the director at dmv, matt gordon and his team including berry steinhart, robert crocket and cristmer (inaudible) this is a i think a great example of partnering with state and local officials to find creative paths for more affordable housing and urge your support and appreciate the cosponsorship. my understanding is both

planning department and mayor's office are here and available for questions. the state agencies are working collaboratively with our office and assembly member ting and the purpose in the resolution wasn't to have a full blown hearing on the details of development. i think that is premature and that is the point of rfi. the point was to make clear by resolution the board of supervisors support the basic premise here making the dmv lot affordable housing site. my understanding is planning department and mayor office are here. colleagues if there are any questions, but not to make presentations today. thank you. >> thank you supervisor preston. that is very very exciting. did you have a presentation? no. i realize this is a resolution and you

know, there have been other examples of state properties also in your district being developed into housing. that is very exciting, so if there are no other questions from colleagues we can go to public comment on this item. >> thank you madam chair. seeing no members of the public in the chamber we'll go to remoted call in line. we have 10 listners with two in the queue. let's take the first caller. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon commissioners. jake price on behalf of the housing action coalition. we are tremendously excited at the prospect of housing at it dmv site and very appreciative of the efforts by supervisor preston and the sponsors to move forward with this resolution. and as we move through the process here, just wanted to call attention to a requirement laid out by the dmv in the rfi

which would preserve 110 parking spaces. in addition to the parking mandate being inefficient and environmentally detrimental use of land, the high amount of parking that is currently required will really drive up cost and make it more difficult to bring affordable housing to the site, so as we move through the process, just wanted to call that out. we hope it is addressed as this exciting prospect moves forward. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. let's take the next caller. >> good afternoon supervisors. allen (inaudible) here a resident of destricate 8 where we are very proud of our supervisor mandelman. clearly we need housing that is affordable here in san francisco. we keep hearing the term affordable housing and i want to take a moment to be clear what this term affordable housing means for us. it is covered in several

articles in newspapers here recently. so called affordable housing was suck subject (inaudible) ryan murphy policy of eviction dlfs collaborative was quoted saying black tenants and other racial minorities are evicted at higher rate and treated more harshly. so called affordable housing was subject that outlined multiple failures of bmr inclusionary housing where supervisor melgar was quoted saying this creates mistrust in the bmr program. who will want to participate in a program like this? finally, with regard to so acalled affordable houds ing, san francisco chronicle entitled broken homes, the author noted that so

called affordable housing in the tenderloin "because san francisco leaders for years failed to meaningfully regulate the non profits (inaudible) many buildings descending in the pattern of chaos crime and death the investigation found.". so, in closing i like to say, we clearly need housing that is affordable but think we should stop referring to the housing you are pushing here is (inaudible) that is what we need to describe this housing is soul destroying housing and not affordable. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. just wanted to make a small announcement. are you present for item number 3? we are taking public comment now. okay. great. let's take the next caller, please. >> good afternoon. this is (inaudible)

race equity coalition. we are delighted to hear about the opening of this site. the possibility of a site in collaboration with the state and supervisor preston's good work. let's get to it and let a affordable housing developer take on this project for our community. thank you. >> are thank you so much for your comments. we have one more caller in the queue. let's take that caller. >> good afternoon. my name is (inaudible) i am a volunteer with san francisco (inaudible) live in district 5. i'm grateful to see my supervisor preston bringing this resolution forward and i'm proud to see there

is is progress on more affordable housing in district 5 in particular. i live not too far from the dmv and i think this is a great location close-as others said, especially supervisor preston, close to transit, close to many amenities so i'm highly supportive of affordable housing, especially in district 5. thank you. >> thank you so much and that completes the queue madam chair. >> thank you madam clerk. public comment on the item is now closed. supervisor preston. >> thank you chair melgar. i just had couple brief questions. i did see we are joined by planning director hillis. i feel this is a thing where all the conversations whether it was with state partners or city partners have been

very positive and at risk of never want to jinx anything but a lot of folks who seem to be on the same page but a lot happen more quitely so did want to make sure to through the chair to give mr. director hillis the floor. if you can briefly comment on this as a potential affordable housing site and a good neighborhood for this use in your opinion for housing or any other comments you might have on it. >> good afternoon supervisors. i know we have some of the staff online remotely with specific answers to some questions you had about the zoning, but the bottom line is yes, this is a great site for housing and

affordable house. i was with the city a decade plus ago when the prior iteration of this tried to move forward and unfortunately didn't make it through and we got no housing. i would say one thing i would be concerned about as we move forward is how this gets-if this is a mixed use dmv and housing it makes it challenging given the site and are height limits there. dmv also offered a opportunity to find a different site for dmv so there is a swap opportunity where we could locate a different site for dmv that may be less amenable for housing development and use this for housing. so, that's the one area i have some-want to raise caution about is the ability to use this for the dmv and their requirements to have parking and places for testing et cetera as well as housing sites. this

swap opportunity may be a better one, but we'll explore that moving forward. i know you had specific questions. do you want those addressed? >> sure. i think that's the heart of it and appreciate you bringing that up and that was one thing i encouraged about in the rfi that came out was the openness of state dmv to hearing proposals either as you say that involve mixed use on site which pose its own development challenges because you have to have a developer who is rebuilding a dmv site as part of that and that adds quite a bit of cost. i was really encouraged that they really left open explicitly very clear that that was one path they take proposals on and there are also open to proposals that would relocate that dmv office and exclusively use that for housing. >> just our estimate on the number of units

is anywhere between 200 and 350 units of housing on the site. the lower end, 200 if we have to accommodate a dmv and required parking, 350 if there is a swap. >> thank you. and i would add, there is obviously a lot of-goes into proposals on this. i will say we are all doing outreach to folks who may be interested trying to encourage that. it is also a pretty tight timeline the original rfi was 30 days so hopefully folks can get at least start expressing interest even if there needs to be requests for additional time. i do want to add and this is less about the development of the details of development and more to your point on the on-site versus relocating the dmv. sthr there is a lot

of different issues wrapped up in that decision and ultimately the state's call on that. i will say as i shared with our state partners that this is an area that's both transit rich and also literally has the main connector of the main east/west bike root route of the city on fell street. we have done a lot of work building out the green transportation infrastruck that that runs right by a site and the juxtaposition of that and all the work in there with mta and others along fell and trying to do something similar on oak street that are literally both sites sides of a site where hundreds and hundreds of cars are coming to it every day and i know you're intimately director hillis familiar with the neighborhood and we have a lot of folks who are very eager to invest in safer, slower streets, but

also recognize dmv needs a office in san francisco and want to be respectful of that. thank you for your partnership on this and looking forward to getting proposals and moving this forward and i think in the mean time just having the board on record. i hope we get to unanimously. i appreciate the cosponsorship of the committee members. thank you for all the work. >> thank you so much. do you want to make a motion? >> yes. >> did we take public comment? >> we did. >> did i close it? public comment is closed. >> closed twice. >> are thank you. like to move to full board with recommendation. >> on that motion-as committee report? >> yes. [roll call] >> you have three

ayes. >> motion passes. thank you. madam clerk please call item number 4. >> item 4 is ordinance amending the san francisco general plan by adopting the housing element 2022 update as the housing element of the general plan and making conforming amendments to the air quality commerce and industry and environmental protection and urban design elements of the general plan and make appropriate finds. members of the public who wish to comment on item call 415-655-0001. the meeting id is 24845342047 and press pound and pound again and are if you have not done so already and would like to speak on this item you just need to press star 3 and identify will hear the system indicate you raised your hand and conformation. madam chair. >> thank you so much madam clerk. we have director hillis here and maryam (inaudible) who will make a presentation. before

i turn it over to you i just wanted to mark the moment and say thank you to mrs. (inaudible) specifically because i know you did a lot of the heavy lifting of consensus building and incorporating the feedback from the race equity all planning coalition, for a (inaudible) folks who are in very different places when it comes to land use in our city and somehow you were able to make everyone feel heard and incorporated into the draft. on friday we got a letter from hcd certifying we are in compliance. this draft is in compliance so that is not a small feat so proud of you and so glad everyone in the department put in the work and got us to where we are today. i don't know who is making the

presentation but i wanted to say thank you to all staff and particularly mrs. jung. thank you. director hillis, is it you? go ahead supervisor preston. >> thank you. i just wanted to add some introductory remarks before the presentations and i want to start by congratulating on the preliminary approval from the state and tremendous amount of work that's gone into this and i will say, in these remarks i have concerns but i will say they are much more about the process and the box with which we operate in rules set by the state then comments by performance within that space by the-director hillis and his team. i will say one thing that is clear from hundreds of pages of the housing

element that remain-related appendicis is just the sheer volume of work that went into this and i want to add my voice to the thanks for that effort. this is a huge amount of time investment from the whole planning team and appreciate it. i also want to thank planning for incorporating a lot of the changes. my office and a lot of constituents provided and that is the same with in 11 districts and in my district that included listening to japan town stakeholders and resolving issues they raised and committing to a community lead process for future neighborhood developments and also some things that came out at the other hearings we had around referencing for example the prop i funds more explicitly as a potential sort for affordable housing funds to reach our

goals. as previously noted and won't repeat, accept to just applaud the broad range of strategies that are here including housing stability strategies, rent relief, land acquisition, land trust, pages and pages, but it is important these are in the document. i think the overall concern and what i want to flag at the out-set of this discussion is looking at the enforceability of any of these goals, and the concern is that this could in terms of impact be more a detailed plan to upzone and deregulate for the purpose of maximizing market rate housing and falling short of like any commensurate level of detail of how we are going to achieve the affordable housing goals and how those

goals are going to be enforced. i want to be clear and for background for folks who are not as intimately familiar. in the most recent rhna cycle where the goal was to produce 16 thousand units of affordable housing, we barely hit 50 percent and may have done better then neighboring jurisdictions but still only hit 50 percent of the goal and now increasing that target by a factor of 3. instead of 16 thousand units we are talking 46.500 affordable units in the same 8 year time period and not seeing anyone at the federal level, the state level or local level putting together a real plan to fund and create the scale of affordable housing. i fear that our state certainly and to some extent our city are not serious enough about meeting the affordable housing goals regardless of what's written in this document and that i

don't want to conclude, but i can't help but conclude that the process and the structure are in many respects set up for the city to fail. for the city to fail to meet the goals. there is-anyone paying attention to the local real estate market there is a capital strike now with market rate housing development in san francisco with deals falling apart left and right and lots sitting empty and whatever the intent the practical impact of the market rate goals in the climate is force deregulation, strip out community benefits and perhaps even go so far to ramp up direct subsidies for for profit developers. something first time i have seen it in a article last week thin chronicle and pretty shocked to see that being seriously suggested by developers. and i think the state authors and champions of really unrealistic targets for market rate housing

development have a lot of explaining to including why they wouldn't tie any of these goals to things like feasibility, need, vacancy rates. many other factors that should be relevant in setting our market rate housing goals but really are absent and are considered by this document by state law irrelevant to setting goals, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. but here we are and i want to focus on what matters most to the residents of san francisco i think. that is affordable housing for the working class for homeless people, for educators, retail workers, muni drivers, bartenders, seniors family and not seeing the priorities reflected with urgency funding or enforceability in what is before us today and interested in hearing more and exploring that. i am seeing it reflected in a lot of words on the page about what our priorities are, but in

terms of meaningfully figuring out to achieve those with respect to affordable housing i'm left feeling skeptical so thank you and looking forward to the discussion today. >> thank you: i going to save my remarks for after the presentation, but since you opened up the conversation,b i did want to say that i want to caution us-san francisco is 7 by 7 squares mile and it is a very very diverse city and what development looks like in district 5 doesn't necessarily reflect what development looks like in district 7 or district 4. i think that this housing element presents the change for the west side. we are up-zoning, indenseifying a lot of commercial corridors on the west side and

looking at development in places that have not seen development before. places that had traditionally been kept low density on purpose through a combination of our zoning and federal investment through market mortgage backing. a lot of the policies were racist policies that sort of lead to the development patterns we have in the city today. some of that in this housing element is right and just and i do think that in this time of economic uncertainty we are going to see some challenges in making sure that our hopes and aspirations actually get channeled in the correct way and given the priorities have evidenced in this document and not just what the market will bear. so, i do think

it is appropriate for us to think about infrastructure issues especially on the west side as we look at more development and more densification, and we also you know, make sure that we are keeping to our climate action goals. our electrification goals, our seismic safety goals. there is a lot of things that the west side of town has had because we have planned for it, we have-our development patterns are transportation infrastructure is built a certain way the west side does not have, so i just wanted to say i'm hearing from my constituents and neighbors that they see the need for housing at all income levels being developed on the west side. we want to make sure there are places for

folks who are aging out of the houses they have and want to downsize to be able to have a place go, which currently we have very very few apartments on the west side and at the same time have enough affordable housing and middle income housing to make way for the next generation of teachers and nurses and the folks who have always called the west side home. set roots, have families. i do think this aspirational plan does a lot of that. i am worried about the implementation but i guess we are in this together. i wanted to say that because i do-i appreciate your comments supervisor preston. i think there are different needs and different parts of san francisco in this one plan has to be comprehensive for all of us, but as i said, i do

appreciate that you took the time and energy to gather input from all districts and from all constituents who are worried about our future together and the crisis of housing that we are in in our city right now. so, president peskin did you want to add a few words? >> i will be brief because suffering from covid and gasping for air, but let me say supervisor preston, i like to associate myself with the words of supervisor preston who articulated my thoughts and feelings just right, and then say something i have been saying for the most part of 20 years, which is i believe in density equity and as you said chair melgar, this housing element

does achieve that as it relates to the western part of the city and county of san francisco. the devil is going to be not in the housing element itself, but actual implementation along the way, which is going to be a lot of work and is easier are said then done, but that is the lot that we find ourselves in and i look forward working with all you and colleagues and the public in the planning department and going down that road. i look forward to the questions and answers during this hearing. >> thank you president peskin. director hillis. >> we have a brief presentation. i'll make a few remarks and (inaudible) do the bulk of the presentation. i appreciate your words and supervisor preston

and president peskin. it has been an amazing effort by our team and also want to thank (inaudible) it was one of the first meetings i had all most 3 years ago when i started planning is is to talk about the housing element. (inaudible) wanted to make this a document that was both useful and also aspirational and had a-if you are -it could have been a box checking exercise. they were somewhat everything to everyone and didn't have a strong point of view so thank our team. it is a large team is and grew over time and including many other departments getting us to this point. not only is it aspirational but it presents very specific actions on how we can address our housing challenges. we sought out and listened to communities throughout the city, especially black american indian and communities of color throughout the city. folks that wouldn't necessarily

you wouldn't see here at a board of supervisors meeting or planning commission meeting and got their input and advice and concern where we are going. and we heard from them they wanted to see real specific solutions putd forward rooted in social and racial equity that will truly address our housing needs and affordable housing challenges so we hope this draft does that. i know we have been given very specific and difficult requirements by the state to meet such as the rhna targets, but i believe the goals and actions in this document regardless of those targets make good policy sense, they make good planning sense and you pointed out a couple of them. do you want to pause for a minute? >> i wanted to give a shout out before they leave to the students from saint brendan. welcome to the people's house and glad you came on this

day. that's all. >> no problem. thank you. you pointed out some of those and we'll touch on those but rezoning the west side and looking denseifying the west side, especially along the commercial corridors on the west side. improving our process, especially for code compliant projeblths. we know it takes a long time to get approval for projects for affordable and market rate. affordable housing building the amount of affordable housing called for is tremendously difficult. we know we need not only additional city resources but additional state and federal resources. in the need to engage in real community planning, in cultural districts like soma, japan town, bayview and other neighborhoods we prioritized, fillmore concern addition and excelsior so we know implementation will be a challenge and lot of