>> good morning welcome to rules of the board of supervisors for today-month-old, january 30, 2023. i am for this last meeting the chair of the committee aaron peskin joined to my right by vice chair supervisor mandelman. and to my left by committee member supervisor connie chan. our clerk is mr. victor young and it has been a pleasure working with you colleagues and

clerk young the last couple of years as chair of ruleless. thank you for your service and your work. our -- same goes for deputy city attorney ann pierson. >> clerk, do you have announcements. >> yes it is board and committees hybrid meetings. while providing remote access via phone. the board recognizes equal access is essential and take public comment first will be taken on each item. those in person allowed to speak first then those waiting on the phone. watching 26, 28, 78 or 99 and sfgov.org the call in number is streaming. the number is 415-554-0001 then access code: 2481 9318934 ##

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mr. young. our deputy city attorney is reviewing the latest version of the military equipment policy why don't we call items 3-6 together out of order. >> item 3, motion appointing engardio to the golden gate highway and transportation district board of directors. item 4 is a motion apointing engardio term ending december first of 23 as alternate to the california state association of counties. item 5 is a motion appointing hilary ronen termening june 30 of 23 to the bay area government executive board. item 6 is a motion appointing supervisor preston term ending february 4, 2026 to the local agency formation commission. item 7 is motion appointing

connie chan as an alternate to the san francisco local agency formation commission. i did not call for 7 this is okay, mr. young. is there public comment on any of these appointments of members of the board of supervisors tonies various bodies of california state association of counties the bay area government. lafco, the golden gate bridge highway and transportation district. anybody in chambers who would like to comment. is there remote comment on items 3-7. >> members of the public who are on the phone line, listening remote call 415-554-0001, access code: 2481 9318934 ##.

forthose in the queue wait until the system indicated have been unmuted that may begin your comments we have one caller. >> first speaker. please. >> david pilpel 2 comments on item 3. not clear to me why this would be a committee report the next meeting of the bridge district board is not until end of february i did not seat urgency for this to go as a committee report for tomorrow and in the sure if supervisor chan can participate in item 7. other then and there that i have no objection to the proposed appointments and -- possible low reappointments. thanks. >> public comment is closed. why i did not originally call it we will not vote on it where

supervisor chan present. with that i will make a couple of housekeeping amendments. on item 3 -- we need to conform the in title with language within the motion. and so i will move to amend as line 9. the date 2023 to 2025. on that motion a roll call, please? >> yes. on that motion. supervisor chan? >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> and then item 5. i will make a motion to remove the word in the long title at line 3 as an alternate.

replace with the letter, a, a member and line 9 to turn seat 3 into seat 2 and strike the word, alternate. so this it is clear that supervisor ronen is being appointed seat 2 not an alternate seat but permanent seat. i'm informs that is in the a substantive change a roll call, please. >> on that motion. supervisor chan? >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. the motion passes without objection. okay. and then i want to thank the clerk of the board of supervisors for putting out the survey of supervisors to serve

on the outside board and commissions. and for the individual members who have aplied filling a number of long-term vacancies i want to thank supervisor engardio for stepping up to joiz supervisor mandelman in a number of outside bodies abag and the association of counties as well as supervisor ronen. approximate with those amendments can we take items 3-6 together. and sends them with recommendation as committee reports? as amended in the cases 3 and 5 on that multifaceted motion mr. clerk a roll call, please. >> one moment. if you don't mind i have been getting i -- sorry my apologies.

there were indications that supervisor ronen was going to step down in favor of supervisor melgar. >> i have not heard a word of that and i have no e mails to that affect and i know nothing of it. i had my staff meet thanksgiving morning i'm up-to-date on my e mails as of 9:58 in morning. and this it is news to me. and if they would like to do that they can make that suggestion at the full board tomorrow and we can be send it become if this is the case. >> yes. why my apologies i was trying to -- not heard a word until this moment and the show is going on. >> okay. >> i believe item 3 will be upon recommend as amended committee report. item 4, will be recommend as a committee report. item 5 will be recommend as a

report and item 6 will be recommended as committee report. on those motions, supervisor chan. >> aye. >> my apol joes i vote while there is -- discussion going on. one minute. we will recess for 2 >> we'll reconvene rules for today january 30, 2023. and let me start by rescinding my motion that we were just about to vote on. and -- i would like to offer an amendment to item 5 already

amended once. to replace rumor was true, mr. young, supervisor hillary ronen with supervisor melgar for seat number 2 to the association of bay area governments. why don't and then i once we vote on i will do this the same motion i would like to make that motion and continue item 5 to the next meeting of the rowels committee alcohol be chaired by supervisor dorsey. on that motion to substitute supervisor melgar for supervisor ronen for the appointment to abag item 5 a roll call, please. >> and this is also vote for the others. why only an amendment to item 5 and congress that item to this

committee >> item 5, to amend and continue to the next meeting of rowels committee, on that motion supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> now i will make a motion to sends item 3 as amended as i committee report, item 4 as a committee report. item 6 as a committee report with recommendation for tomorrow's board of supervisor's meeting. on that motion a roll call, please. >> yes, on that motion, supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> and while item 7 has been called we'll go to that later on

this morning's agenda. mr. clerk this should be quick. lieutenant and council from the sheriff's department. could you read item 2. >> yes, item 2 an ordinance amending the administrative code a city policy against seek sez iingination letters from importance seeking or being considered for appointment or reappointment to city boards and commissions and other city bodies. >> thank you, mr. young. this ordinance is sponsored chiefly by supervisor preston and cosponsored by a number of other supervisors including myself. and with that supervisor preston the floor is yours. >> thank you so much, chair peskin and vice chair mandelman and supervisor chan for hear thanksgiving today. thank you chair peskin for your cosponsorship of this.

approximate we don't have a formal presentation on the item but i have remarks. colleagues, i introduced this ordinance in response to last year's revelation that the mayor was requesting undated resignation letters from a number of appointed commissioners as her discretion. max carter blew the whistle on this practice approximate thanks to him the letters collected by mayor's office were deemed unenforceable. when this came to light, i believe that the practice was a problem. on various levels including some later highlighted by the city attorney's office and the public memo issued in this matter. first, requiring a commissioner to sign an undate letter that can be filed any time. places appointed commissioners at risk of undue it influence by appointing authority.

regardless what the mayor and representatives have said regarding their plans to use these letters there is in reason we should leave the decision whether to use undated resignation letter to the whims of an appointing authority. for the police mission and others this contradicted the city charter. which states specific low that the board of supervisors must approve00 autoremoval of any police commissioners even police commissioners appointed by the mayor. and this is not spelled out in the city attorney's memo. i found the practice a problem because it underminds the purposes of many of our commissions. commissioners and other appointees should feel empowered provide meaningful oversight and guidance to our departments. otherwise, what is point?

so, in order to address the issues the legislation before you will set forth as city policy that an appointing authority may not ask or require a person's seeking appointment to a mission or other city body to prepare or submit a letter of residence ignition prior to our as a condition of their appointment. it clarifies the decision whether to resign from a committee or city body rests with the appointee even if the authority asks resignation. my hopes the ordinance will help avoid situations like what we saw unfold last september. and prevent this from coming up in the future x. that tell top about appointing authority requesting undated residence ignition letters from their commissioners in an attempt to exert control over them. as i wrap up on this, i would be

remiss not to recognize that the circumstances giving raise to this legislation or related the extremely personal changes that were being occurred to ban pretext stops the police commission passed a few weeks ago this come left week as you all know the memphis police department released vo of police officers beating a black man to death after a pretext stop it is important we ban pretext stops here in san francisco and the police mission come commissioner cart or to enact the policy banning pretext stop in san francisco in spite of the political pressure he was facing exetch foils why it is crucial to make sure commissioners use independent judgment as they w with community with stake hold

and city diameters and elected officials to credit nuance but transformational policies. with that, happy to answer questions our city attorney is also here if there are legal quos temperature i thank deputy city attorney an pierson for their work in putting this together. thank my cosponsors president peskin and also supervisors walton and ronen and also. to rescue noise and thank my legislative aid for her work on that. thank you. >> thank you supervisor preston, supervisor mandelman. >> thank you chair peskin. it sometimeless the case on this body have a dprn view and will not support the ordinance today. i question whether it is

necessary. in that -- the letters that were requested appear to have been ineffective and appear to have been a protection that the -- several mayoral administrations have sought in error about whether the letters many anything at all. my take away is different from some off body i'm not oshg felonieded the mayor's office and this area and others have sought some way of ensure a mechanism to remove more easy low remove appointees not doing that the executive wanted those appointees doing on commissions where the mayor may have a narrow majority.

i think -- there are commissions and commissions there are commissions this have you quasi ajudeicate function and policy and hiring and firing functions and i think my feeling about what the mayor's authority to try to pull out one of her appointise dependses on what the different functions of the commission are. the police department case and police commission case, public safety now is i think if not the issue of the concern it san franciscans. they look to the mayor to set policy and run hear police department in a way that advances criminal yesterday reform and keeps francescas save. because of the way our charter

works she no longer apores to be alined with the majority of the commission over seeing a department that in some version of a chart is above. >> that is challenging and i think when i think about the problem with san francisco i'm not seeing excess of executive mirrial authority i see a government disuneified. run through a number of commissions that you know that seem to independent. it took chair peskin a lot of work and effort to rairn in one commission that probably ought to be most low independent. it is not setting policy. general low should be insulated from us unless until they are doing things that are insane. so i thought this was an

interesting issue a complicated one and was in the deeply oshg fenldzed by what the mayor's office was trying to do even though it was ineffectivism don't feel the mead to vote and will not be today. >> thank you for sharing that

view, supervisor mandelman. and it is a thorny concept within i'm not speaking pacific he about resignations in the larger context of the diffuse gentlemanal structures we have with an executive and legislative branch and devolved 4 and authority to a number of commissions. having said that, and this come from my view and experience with a breadth of different commissions in the city and outside the city. the notion of the exercise particular low in quasi judicial bodies. of independence is pair mount. i was chagrinned a number of years ago as a member of the california state coastal commission. when i found out that one of my colleagues having trouble in vast political pressure over what was to my mind and a major of commissioner's mind a fair and just application of the california coastal act as related a project. this individual confided in me that the reason this commissioner was having trouble come least low agreed ha -- i was right on the issue. was because she had signed such a residence ignition letter i found to be profound low troubling. she ultmitt low did cast her vote for the right thing and was not fired or undated residence

ignition letter was in the used against her. it was high prosecute file project on california's coast. which -- you know was going to i think harm the interest of californians and i have seen the same thing on san francisco's planning commission which is when lead to the passage of prop d in 2003 when then mayor brown would tell his commissioners how to vote on items. and the public manage in for fair impartial hearings on the application of the law, were getting screwed and lead to a distrust in san francisco's gentleman and that is why we created the charter provisions the voters voted for in the face of a wave of money that allowed those commissioners to actually

vote their conscious pursuant to the law. and i would say that -- the trust and confident in the planning commission has increased great low since those days. for all of those reasons, and i understand supervisor mandelman's larger concerns about the role of the executive that people vote for, i am a proud cosponsor of item 2. and i will not belabor it why don't we open public comment on this, oops sorry, victor. supervisor preston you want to say something. >> okay. why don't we open up public ment on item 2 and get back to ab481. >> yes. members of the public had wish to speak and join nothing person line up to speak at this time. for those remote call 415-554-0001, access code: 2481

9318934 ##. >> we have one person for public meant at this time. >> please, come forward >> good morning member of the board of prierzs thank you so much for the time for public comment on this. i'm michael a district 9 resident. a mont okay launchedage anticaucus and proud of this mission. everything you said president peskin thank you very much. for your comments this is the reason i'm here to support item twom and passage. but thank you all for the time to listen to me. have a good morning >> thank you. >> are there remote speakers for

this item? >> we have 4 persons not guilty line for remote public comment. >> first caller? thank you, good morning why the organization seek preempive resignations and bodies credits limitations on the individuals ability to make decisions. people seeking appointment or reappointment should not being forced give the authority collateral like a resignation all right to be ash pointed. city commission and boards meant top have oversight duties and take input. the individuals have residence ignition letters can prevent inspect decisionmaking based on data and public concern and lead to bend to the will of

authorities or face extreme pressure that under mines the function of commissions and city bodies to fulfill duty and responsibilities. porcommissioner burton former chair called it, horse shit. the pressure residence ignition can condition strain commissioners and, pointes from meeting with members of the public. we witnessed this play out with mayoral appointise for the police commission through the mayor's unsuccessful attempt its derail the review process. leverage in this influence. [inaudible] attempt to deriwhat commissioner carter was lookinga the and the other appointise refuse to meet with community members and [inaudible] from very misleading statements about the dgo and derail and under

mine that process. the city structure can trust they are making decisions based on evidence and feedback and pressure and threats. we ask yes on this ordinance. thank you. >> this is chad i strategyly support this ordinance. undated residence ignition letter system contrary to accountability. our commissioners approximate board members are to be autonomous and to intercept and over see city guidelines that nobody else should be interfearing w. pass this ordinance this is basic ethics of government of thank you so much. >> next speaker, please.

>> good morning i'm brent turner i'm speaking on [inaudible] the behalf of the [inaudible] lgbt lgbt anticorruption caucus express full support with sproirz preston regard thanksgiving matter the events rerolled the past few months forcing predated residence ignition letters on appointees is another case of corrupting forces, controlling the san francisco county government. the equation of the overly clever mayor and clever city attorney and now all powerful board president work nothing tandem to circumvent the charter and public interests left the public exaceerated we theed the political players use the resignation letters part of the [inaudible] to control

appointees. to note the severity nancy pelosi's chief of staff [inaudible] from the power and intimidation of the current mir there were 20 victims as well as the publics. woe real noted [inaudible] and stacking of this commission by supervisor peskin working with mir breed. the public [inaudible] and [inaudible] we are better than this. we can do better than this. the public rejects the sentiment others have done this dirty deed therefore it is acceptable. thank you >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hey this . is chris i want to call in put my 2 cents appointed to a city commission.

this ordinance is absolutely necessary. it is i basic matter. ethic in how our city works the point of, pointing people to commissions they have expertise or sfrns that is useful not for them to be proxy of the elected official who appointed them. there should be independence there. and i think the [inaudible] brought up it is like in addition to the mayor appointing police commissioner and the chief and to have this and have the commissioners with the threat of resignation any moment. this is not a billions in the government. i think the ordinance is necessary. and would like to [inaudible]. thank you very much. >> thank you. why can we have the next caller? >> good morning allen calling and i'm calling to support the

comments of my supervisor, supervisor mandelman. to hear supervisor preston talk about how this will help guard undue influence on commissions seems absurd to the public. we just watch third degree board 5 months before [inaudible] her appointment was expired watched this board shove her through and so, we think that undue influence this is i bad thing we need to avoid it but you need to look inworried not out ward when you are trying to correct this. that's my comments. thank you, supervisors. >> thank you. can we have the next caller? hi i'm edward i live and work in

san francisco the last 10 years and organize and tech worker coalition sad to hear the board believes this is positive mechanician for appointmenting commissions and. and not the mayor's department and responsible for everyone time the p d killed someone. responding where the victim and person attacking the victim escalate the situation. be clear sfpd is in the a model of reform the not foolish to say they don't appear antipolice those antipolice violence and create public safety for all. this ordinance is absolutely necessary and i support it. thank you. can we have our caller.

great. david pilpel you thank you is a good approach in law this discipline not cover busied created by resolution. there men a few bodies that advise the board that were created by resolution i don't think we are doing that anymore. nor does it cover passive meeting bodies in the sunshine. i would suggest that you consider dub indicating the file. and amend it in the future. were make it explicit. defined in this legislation that are appointed by the board of supervisors arbitrate of submit resignation letters to the clerk of the board. so it is clear. this that is where the residence ignition letters should be directed and final low, i would

encourage to you ask the city attorney to rescueicize this with 1.57 the online data base of piments to bodies. it is important to keep that data base updated so any resignation letter should be prompt low trig are an update to that data base so this vacancy can be known. along with the maddy act and other vac analysisy posting and timing requirements. so. there is a small but important area of law related appointments resignations and vickanceies for various bodies not just boards and commissions but add sunrise row body and wanted to suggest all of that be harmonized. thank you very much for listening. >> thank you. that was our last remote caller.

public comment is closed and final comments supervisor preston. >> thank you chair peskin i want to thank everyone who called in. i will say that i thought we had really come together to in agreement of the under lying practice here was a problem. i think upon even the mayor's office representatives when they came before the gao committee on these practices vowed not to condition them. the city attorney's memo i referenced earlier made clear. and so i will say i'm disappointed hear any defense of this practice. i think this is the kind of back room approaches and potential manipulation of commissioners that stands in the way of change and leads people to lose faith

in government. i do want to note that you know this is today the first time i'm hearing at my office heard concerns from any colleagues about this ordinance. again i thought this was something we come together and decided it would be good to be moving forward with clarity and make sure this does not happen again. on the issue -- around the mayor's power. i want to issue clear and don't anyone to wuk away thinking the mayor lacks the power to remove a commissioner. you know the mayor has the power to remove someone she ash pointses she has to follow the chart exert go through the process. that is set fourth and follow the law. that dependses on the commission and appointment hat rules are. when we don't get to do is circumvent the rowels whether

the board president or the mayor or whatever the a pointing authorities you don't ignore the rowels. require an undated resignation letter this sits on your desk you can file when a commissioner does something you don't, prove of. the other thing is this ordinance does not bar an appointing authority from ask for a resignation. to the extent that the mayor or whoever the authority is displeased with the conduct of an appointed commissioner, they are fro and it is in the ordinance, they are still fro to ask for a resignation. when they can't do is require an undated residence ignition letter to hold on and hang over the head of commissioners who are supposed to be engaged in inspect in exercise of their judgment. so. i will just close by saying that -- if people believe there

is a problem with the removal procedures something that needs to be addressed. you than is a conversation we can have bring forward a principle. we can't have a situation where apointing authority the mayor this mayor or future mayor board of president, future board presidents come up with these type of ways to circumvent the system of removing lay outside in the charter. i urge support, thank you very much. >> thank you. and with that -- why don't we have a roll call on a motion to send item 2 to the full board with a positive recommendation mr. young call the roll. >> yes. on that motion. supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> no. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes with supervisor mandelman dissenting in committee.

could you read item 1. yes. an ordinance amending the if an apology needs of law enforcement equipment the sheriff's consistent with the crip tear naacp why in state law and the use of equipment policy. >> the sheriff's department not for that little procedural hiccup before the meeting started i would have taken you in the order that were on the agenda as item 1. thank you for your patience. moreover and important low thank you to sheriff and his staff. and counsel for hai think has been a really model process around our implementation of bill 481. which this committee well knows

was quite electy and difficult. in the case of the previous ab481 policy. that the police department brought that -- ended up with initial headlines and not only a half a dozen different hearing in this committee but appearances at the board of supervisors that has not marked the case with the sheriff's department -- that with little w on mine and my staff's part. ir thank and acknowledge my staff for his work on this. was a model in so farz the sheriff's department work directly and clantive with the american friends's service committee and did so and listened and there was a back and forth. which resulted in the updated equipment will list policies

that are before us this morning that were amended as early as 5:50 a.m. today. and while i will not speak on behalf ofien fer tu, i'm in receipt of e mills from her i think share the sentiment that ronnie singh at the sheriff's office andllow lute coons have listened and adjusted accordingly. having said that, i don't think that there is totalune millenniumity but close and i will repeat the words that weutters relating to the police department's military equipment policies. which is this this it is the baseline first time out. these policies will come become to this board of supervisors as required under law. each year, so there are

opportunity to do that. and now i will drill down in irrelevant when i think is the only remaining issue having to do with a half dozen unused submachine guns. that the heckler submachine guns the mp5 policy in the possession of the department. i think they have not been used and not operable. the sheriff's office can put in their word fist they desire that come next year i the make a slight amendment the end of calendar year. i want to line up as i said and the sheriff was fine with the police department and sheriff's department policies they come to this committee in the bull board at the same time and not over i period of time.

that if you will come forward with additional training should you unmoth ball that weaponry. with that, colleagues, i have circulated a few amendments that i spoke to to the actual ordinance itself. one was -- to just bring the recitals on page 2 up-to-date. because a lot of things happened since this was first introduced. those strike outs on page 2 from lines 5 to 15. and then there the insertion of the fact on december 13th, the board of supervisors adopted the police department's equipment policy. and then based on that date, and our desire to lineup the reporting, rather than it being a year from when the board

approves this policy. next week or there were, that they the report be at the board of supervisors every year by december 13th. and then we also public low discussed in the sheriff was supportive of the notion that the public public meeting held that amendment is on page 4. all of those are not substantive and for the purpose should this committee see fit, of sends thanksgiving to the full board, mr. clerk, it would include the policy that was submitted this morning has one deletion as it

relates to chemical launchers and otherwise is the same as what has been on the department's website. and is i part of our committee package. with that, it is my pleasure to again thank and publicly acknowledge the sheriff's department for their collaborative work. may you be a model to the police department next year. and with this, lieutenant or councillor singh or if you want to say anything. the floor is yours. thank you, sheriff. >> i want to say thank you on behalf of the sheriff's office for this rules committee patience. its collaboration. the sheriff is present today but is upstairs viewing by teams and available if there are other questions. but i think the presentation

left week and the on going commitment by our office of to engage with all the supervisors as well as you, chair, peskin and the public; highlights our sense of responsibility. in this area. of the work that we do and i think that it is very important to -- continue that collaboration and we do invite suggestions next year when we -- blow off the dust of equipment we intends to potential low reinstate and open to comments from the board but the full board and the public. >> thank you. are there members of public had would like to speak to item 1 and thank you for your patience, my apol joe this is was in the called at the beginning of our agenda as schedules. first speaker. >> if i make my announcement. members who wish to speak and join nothing person lineup now.

if call nothing dial 415-554-0001 and access code: 2481 9318934 ##. >> request we have our in person speaker? >> thank you. good morning i'm arthur. i live in san francisco. district 9. i'm a mfbt san francisco friend's meeting otherwise known the quakers. serveos peace and social concerns committee. we believe noni have 11 confranation of injustices and peaceful reconciliation are superior to the use of force. law enforcement and the military also apply noni have 11 means before use of force and

firearms. only if other means remain ineffective or without promise of achieving the result. we have more in common then and there differences. i'm here to support with you and work with you. thank you to the rowels mittee and the sheriff's department for your collaboration with advocates on this policy and commitment to improvement in transparency. as a quaker committed to nonviolence and human rights i'm concerned how weapons authorized for the use in san francisco jails and how use in such condition fined space. i'm interested in hearing what increased risk of injury there men for people in san francisco jails or a risk of unnecessary force on innocent bystanders may be detained there. interested in information on deployment and uses in the

annual report location and deploy am and [inaudible]. i add haveicate per inclusion of private ratify action which means people in san francisco are affected by violations and the policies can file a civil lawsuit. decommissioning or putting real controlless on the deployment of automatic assault weapons pistols and the submachine gun and prohibition on aiming chemical agents launchers at people of >> work on this issue. where thank you. >> time is up. >> thank you. german to remote public meant wrchlt can we have the first caller. >> upon good morning. this is regina a resident of district 2. can you hear me? >> yes. >> thank you. i'm pleased to be able to

support this ordinance. with all of the work that members of the rules committee. the american friend's service committee. the police department and the sheriffy department staff. i have in the seen today's early 550 a.m. draft but the description provided by supervisor peskin reassures me that and the sheriff's department listened very well to the community. about the needs the ordinance. i sent an e mail with resource that could be useful in the years coming. from other approximate belonging institute. which is the part of hov institute at uc beshg low berkeley on policing issues relevant to the ab481. and am main purpose. i recommend hato staff.

my supervisor stefani staff already roached out to me and thanked mow for this restowers. it appear to be relevant and useful. i want upon to thank the sheriff's department for provide nothing their presentation pictures of objects of the rifles and the equipment that will be helpful for the be public. i want to recommend reading the letters i sent contain further comments about the annual report process. and transparency and the need for the public involvement and that. and -- i was pleased hear about the amendments and re, linement or the 2 reports will be >> thank you your time elapsed. >> can we get our next caller,

please. >> can you hear me >> yes. >> i'm with the american friends service committee. extraordinary engage of the sheriff's office with our organization. and the development of the proposed military equipment policy. all components required for law enforcement agency principle for considering boy a body. >> these were very little restriction on the diployment of

the submachine gun this is is a real concern to us. the department states the machine guns the primary for swat in the 80s and phased out. the weapons are being maintained and no one is authorizeed deploy. we propose to be commission the machine gun the department can in become to the board if it wishes to phase the weapon become in. short of the commissioning we propose one not deploy in the crowds. deployment respond it obstruct the light or series body low your and that variables considered prior to deploying the mp5 deter its deployment including the presence of elderly, children individuals with mental and physical disabilitieds. medically comprehend myselves and non-english speaking

persons. and finally we have not seen that removeod chemical agent launch and ensure that the launchers are in the aimed directly. >> time elapsed. >> thank you very much. this was our last remote public call in. public comment is closed the i note the comment.s left peeshg approximate one of policy changes relative to the launchers was adopted in part at least by the sheriff's department this morning. and the submachine gun issue i spoke to earlier, and with that i will like to make ail motion to adopt the amendments that i discussed proposal and distributed to you nonsubstantive according to the city attorney in nature. and can be voted on today and

sent at this time full board on that motion a roll call, please. >> on that motion, supervisor chan. why aye >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. i would like to make a motion to send the item as amended to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> on that motion supervisor chan. why aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> motion passes without objection. >> thank you colleagues, thank you again to sheriff and his staff. mr. clerk please read item. you read item 7. so -- i will make a motion to excuse supervisor chan for the rest of this meeting. >> on the motion to excuse supervisor chan. supervisor chan. excused. >> vice chair mandelman.

>> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion to excuse supervisor chan is approved. without objection. i will pick a motion to sends item 7 with recommendation to the full board as a mittee report for hearing tomorrow, january 31st on that motion? >> you like to confirm we have no callers on the line for item 7. >> we took public comment already. why yes. i wanted to double -check to be sure. >> item 7, supervisor chan. excused. vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> thank you, colleagues it hen a pleasure serving with you and we are adjourned and the next rules will be chaired by supervisor dorsey.

february third, 2023 the meeting at 9:34. call the roll. >> good morning. respond with her or present. newhouse-segal. >> present. why lauren post. >> here. >> paul woolford. >> front. >> and commissioner zoubi is out with know excused absence we have 3 members present. we have quorum for the public