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[pledge of allegiance] thank you. president wechter. >> member brookter is in the present. vice president carrion. >> present. why member nguyen. >> present. >> member palmer. >> present. >> member soo. >> present. >> president week ter. >> present >> item 1. >> president, i would like us to acknowledge and take a moment of silence in religion to the murder of nichols the works if

we can before we commence our work. >> very good. and i would like to add to the victim's of gun violence in california in half moon bay and oakland. >> thank you. why thank you for this suggestion, voip care yen. >> call the first item >> item one. resolution under california code action item. resolution setting forth

findings under bill 361 allow the sheriff's department oversight board to hold meetings remote low. is there public comment on this matter? jot public is welcome to address the board for up to 2 minutes. comments or opportunity to speak during the public comment are available for members who are present boy lining up at the podium or those not present via phone calling 415-554-0001. access code: 2497 440 7820 press pound, pound. you will hear a beep. when public comment is, nounsed for the line item or general comment press star 3 and added

to the queue. you have 2 millions witness your 2 minutes ended you will put in listening in the meeting nulls decide to disconnect. members may stay on and 39 another line item, press star 3 to be added back to the queue. there are no callers. why do we have a motion on item one? am i move to adopt the resolution. >> is there a second? >> thank you. il take the vote. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye.

>> member palmer. >> aye. >> member soo. >> aye. why president wechter. >> aye. iot motion passes. >> next item, please. item 2, adoption of minutes action item. reruand approve the minutes from the oversight board on january 6 of 23. members of the public now will take public meant. members who would like to comment for item 2 lineup. cal 415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 press pound, pound and enter star 3 to enter the queue. there is no public comment.

do we rimotion on the minutes? >> [inaudible]. second. >> second. vice president carrion? >> aye. >> member nguyen >> aye. >> member palmerch >> aye. >> member soo. >> aye >> president wechter. why aye. item 3 rowels of order discussion and possible action item. this item was correspond we had the text for an among or 2. is there public comment?

415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 , pound, pound, then star 3 to enter the queue. there are no will callers. >> is there a discussion or motion? >> i believe that the [inaudible] [cannot hear speaker] [no microphone]

>> second. we will take a vote for 3. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen >> aye >> member palmer. >> aye >> member soo. >> aye >> president wechter. >> aye. >> the rules are adopted. >> item 4 on the agenda. >> item 4, mission statement, discussion and possible action. rerowel and discuss other mission of the sheriff's oversight board and possible adoption. >> i had put forth an initial proposal i know that member soo and member nguyen clan ritted on -- inn >> commissioner palmer

>> i'm sorry. >> collaborated on one. i will take mine out of consideration. thank you member nguyen i appreciate the work. word smithing is challenging it is not quick and easy as i knowledge people assume of i believe it sounds like it is manage if a law enforcement agency, which we are not. i do believe the spirit everybodying that is in there i public in the spirit. i knowledge for the purposes of this commission, this board, i would defer become to what was

worked on by member palmer and member soo. but i want to stress no way does that mean that what is presented was a problem or have issues with i think it is more the viewpoint seems to be more as if from a law enforcement agency. why and i think we live in a different house at this time. why i appreciate your investigation. thank you. mentioned positive and meaningful things but apply more to the sheriff's department then and there this board itself. >> okay. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> i want to thank member soo and palmer for collaborating on

the third version of january 12, 2023. i would move to adopt the mission statement the third version. collaborateod created by member palmer and member soo. >> i second it. >> weep take public comment for the member hos would like to make comment for line item 4 if you are (line up at the podium. otherwise, call 415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 then press star 3 to enter the queue. >> there is no callers. now i will take a row for line item 4 for the january 12 of 23

version. of the mission statement. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye. >> member palmer. >> aye. >> member soo. >> aye >> president wechter. >> aye. >> the mission statement edited reservation january 12 of 23 is adopted. >> next item, please. item 5, adoption of national association for civil yen oversight of law enforcement. code of ethics discussion and possible action. discussion and possible action on adopting the code of ethics. >> this has been the code of ethics on our website since the second or third meeting and adopted by 25 other oversight entities around the country. >> president wechter i have a motion to table this given the

fact we started late and there are more urgent matters specifically -- aggressing the 6 charges in the charger. is there a second? gi don't see why to continue it is a straightforward merit we can vote up or down or yes or no. any other discussion. let's see if there is public comment. please. why more member his would like to comment on item 5. if you are present. we take public comment before the motion. >> if you are present line up at the podium otherwise call

415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 press star 3 to enter the queue. there are no callers. we can take the row for a motion to continue. why a motion to table. >> sorry. >> other discussion? i would photography vote on it yes or no today. motion it table. >> vote on now. >> the second. >> we are taking a vote on the motion to table. line item, vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye. >> member palmer. >> aye. why member soo. >> aye.

>> member wechter. >> no. >> there is a majority vote of 4 the motion passes. next item. >> calling item 6 statement of incompatible activities discussion and possible action. review and discuss the statement of incompatible activities required by the ethic's commission and possible action to adopt. >> i have been informed regardless of when we do this has to go to the ethic's commission to the staff there to rehave you and approve. we had this before. we were waiting for inserting a mission statement we pass exclude city attorney's opinion. on the acceptance under item 3,

a1. no officer employeed serve a member of the board or employee of a nonprofit. there is a contractor grant agreement with officer of inspector general of the sheriff's department of the i have been advised of the city attorney's office that can be rae moved i move we remove that sentence, and forward this to the ethic's commission for their approval to send become you to for a final vote. >> i would like to [cannot hear speaker] [no microphone].

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>> i believe that -- if we insert our mission statement, of that we are ready to send it to ethics. i don't think that i still think that paragraph president wechter wants remove side a problem to say we will remove it because we do have conflicts of interest public low if people are in boards where there are city grants. this is very clear in our city and county ethics. i'm correspond. i want to reserve judgment on removing that paragraph. . any other discussion by board members. >> i think i made a motion.

>> yes. >> [cannot hear speaker] [speak into microphone] [cannot hear speaker. speak into microphone]. the fwhon our packet a revision deaf date of 1-17 of 23. i ask secretary to include the mission statement we just approved. gi will accept the amendment. >> i'm sorry can you clarify the

motion we'll sends the deteriorate y. motion to send the draft. >> included the mission statement and send the draft with a question regarding the [inaudible] i read to ethics. >> members had would like to comment for item 6 if you are present line up. if you are remote dial 415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 upon pound, pound then star 3 to enter the queue. there are no callers. we will take a row for will item 6. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye. >> member palmer. >> aye. where member soo. why aye. why president wechter.

>> aye. motion pass. forwarded to the ethic's commission at the draft shall be forwarded to the ethicky commission for consideration. >> call item 7. >> item 7 budget presentliation and approval discussion and possible action. second public presentation of the budget priors for fiscal 2023-24 take into account the mary cuts and possible action.

>> good afternoon i'm the willing assistant dp acting commission secretary for office inspector general and sheriff's oversight board. i'm currently the only employee there. i was brought on board to clerk approximate help get the public meetings gchlg and being the only employee there, the mayor's budget office tasked mow with making the budget presentation. >> about the office of inspector general. this is i new department established by voters in 2020. neither department head and

inspector general are hired. upon department boy the charter. the name office of inspector general ensures accountability. the roles of the office man dated by the charter will be on the next slide. there is a press for identifying cantidated to consider for inspector general. >> similar function system performing independent oversight at the request of by the agreement with the sheriff. >> d. police account at is lending resources and providing support for the building of office of inspector general the question of the mayor and board

supervisors. >> san francisco charter 4.37 mandates 4 duties. investigate complaints employees and contractors. discipline action for violations of law or policy. >> policy review. development and recommendations for the areas use of force and critical incidents. reporting on investigations recommendations and out come. monitoring and auditing operations for compliance, laws and policy. >> conducting hearings by subpoenas, calling witnesses and taking testimony under oath. >> budget priorities. the budget priors for the new department be to; 1, hire on

board and train staff to perform the work. 2, request additional positions as out lined here the original budget conreceived without key staff for inspect office to function. prosecute mote the service of the new agency with media. engage the community. meet basic obligations. staff reception your. transparent about data and run the office by technology additional staff be essential. number 3, many basic infrastructure necessities are not budgeted for like office space, furniture, phones and computers and a case managing system, training expense and software and subscriptions and respond to incident locations.

proposed budget of the materials and supplies expensive for a new upon department in the first year employed not have materials or supplies carried over from previous years. this category captures except for everything from dig at that time records, head sets and cam ares to paper can copier toner. >> the mayor's budget instructions recovery of local economy with focus on downtown and economic core. improving public safety and street conscience. rousing homelessness and transforming mental health service delivery. accountability and equity in

services in spending. will achieve reductions through saul row savings. the budget reflects budget of 147 thousand dollars for the next fiscal year. indicated on the previous slide. describing positions the positions are needed in addition to the budgeted positions in order to provide necessary service to the community. include being out reach, public information campaigns and

increase accessibility. meet charter man dates, investigate complaints, conduct hearings. analyze data. make policy recommendations. perform audits. of comply with department upon obligation. public record's request. report on the work. prepare and advocate for the budget. and function as a department figure technology and supplies. staff front desk field calls and e mills. we will saul row savings to the learningest technology cost. case management provide a cost savings to future years when the funds needed for new staff saul

reese. infrastructure like computers. conference room tech nochlg tv's web ex, phones and conference systems. these represent estimated on going expenses for the departments include licensing for sales base case misdemeanoring simples software. cloud based storage and subscriptions. estimates don't have additional prescriptions for service not obtained yet like evidence. comfor cameras on native platform or performing online research. as discussed they near estimated for interdepartmental support. not costs. final costs for the currently

fiscal year will not be determined the end of the fiscal i don't remember all city departments rely on others for support. the service providing diameters bill accordingly the costs will change subject to needs and how quickly the staff are on boarded, trin exclude operational to be able to take over work that relies on resource fist another department. we expect that cost for staffing and resources will decrease with the now departments ability to perform the work in house with staff members. if additional approximate suspicions are, proved this will increase.

training will have the most importance and highest costs the next 2 years with the new staff on boarded and trains. tlaning is on line tuition can have thes we welcome suggestions and comments on this. this is upon tended for public comment and ideas.

impact of reduction. the original budget includes funds for personnel and infrastructure to mead mandates. further reduction will extend the reliance on borrowed support and resource. delay the ability to become operational. and impier pair to meet core requirements. prevent from services from the community. this is the end of the presentation are there questions or know comments? >> do board members have questions. >> i i do locked at training for our board members. and i noted we only had 20 hours of our estimated 80 hours of training. so -- that figure looks low to me and i know and i was in the same training session at deputy

nguyen and president wechter and the dedicated staff of the sheriff's department exit think the her leave cost if to accommodate schedules after hours, it is low approximate we have city attorney and sheriff's council who have offered training. i want to be mindful of this and have you review that number. >> okay. >> i will take that in consideration. why i appreciate so much your hard work. the city attorney's work. sheriff council but dpa and the support than i have been begin we do hire inspector zrnl we want that person to be successful. i expect the transition period mitake a year depending because the staffing would be civil service. we than at in point in time silv service hires take a longer time. but i'm thankful for director

henderson attorney here and nicole armstrong on budget special facilities to gives ape handle on the budget and on going support. >> i echo, thank you. >> any members have questions. yea. and since are in the doing another i like to add more on your plate. hasaturday possibility in the budget to allow for members when we drive here to have a stereotypen for park or sticker or something? we will have to look into this i will get become to you on that. why i think if i'm not misestablish they are supposed to wee be zee not had it processd and difficult sewe are named different entities on the budget than when we are on the charter that made it doyle draft

documents. i don't know secretary, if you have a schedule of when stipends may come through >> left member was process said through. so now it is waiting approximate with the kreller's office. you should get that and your back pay. >> combebls have questions. >> i have several, you mentioned that the evidence.com. is there an estimate hathat cost will be? >> we are still looking we started to explore that. could this be added in at a later date? >> this is in the final yet this is still a draft when we get numbers together we will put those in there. >> okay. >> and i know this indicates adding 7 positions and that would saul row savings cover the

budget cuts for this fiscal year but what about the fiscal year next july assuming the upon 7 people are in place in >> right when we estimate the budget for the positions we estimate the highest level. we don't anticipate having to hire all of them at the top step. and also -- we will not bring all this positions in at the same time. so we will have salary savings that way. i don't anticipate given the hiring of the ig is take long are than expected. i don't expect we would be hiring any staff that soovenl probably not until the second or third quarter. member soo mentioned 80 hours of training from the sheriff's departmentful men there men

information about the status of this. my understanding was this it was going to be 20 hours. i have not heard anything else about receiving additional mandatory training. >> i don't have knowledge of the training proposals. [no microphone]. >> okay. and this initiative is 7 added positions how many does the budget cover? >> i'm sorry. how many i know this list 7 additional positions how many existing are in this budget is this i believe well is 13. >> okay. can you give us a break down had they are? >> it will be i did not fwring ha. i know there is -- 11 -- 11 investigators dp a senior attorney. and a chief position.

>> and a cho position. and i believe there is -- support, too. there is -- admin position and a budget person. which was -- we need now. >> i'm sorry when you say cho position what is that? >> chief attorney position to over see the -- assist the oig. >> would be 3 attorney positions? >> no. it is the oig chief attorney position and the 7 investigators. and this additional naern in budget? >> right. >> i'm not aware of agencies that small having a chief attorney usually they supervisor other attorneys. i don't know about the need for both a media person can communities out reach personful

seems like that could be the same position? i'm going to move we approve this -- removing those 2 position the chief attorney position and the media officer. >> okay i'm sorry -- you know with budget i think it is better to ask for more can let the mayor take the positions away. i believe what the budget cuts she will take a lot, way and will not approve the 7 but it is more prudent to ask for more. but -- i will -- we will consider your comments. >> i don't think those positions are necessary because given budget situation the city findses itself in and the need to miles per hour miles an hour mraum officers for the upon plea come should have been's department. emergency dispatchers. i don't see these having that

level of priority. correct but we are trying to build a department it is better to ask for more to have successful full department. and we can change the positions around if needed. >> just my thinking is. >> thank you for your comment. >> president wechter a request to speak. as an attorney, and as machine this worked with different chiefs, in the san francisco da's office, when i was i practice cuter i think that a chief is an essential leader in an organization especially a new organization where it has so much staff. a chief not only deals with the attorney work and the daily they go in the daily fungsz of what that department does.

here we have a slew of investigators. which i, soup the chief would work with as well. i think to have the -- want to -- make sure we dispel misconception a chief assistant attorney position would just be limited to prierzing one attorney's work temperature is a lot more complex and a lot more involved. and i think we as members soo indicated we want to do everything in our power to ensure that our ig succeeds in performing the amounts of work that will be required of this department. i hear you and response i will change my motion to approve this changing the chief attorney position to staff attorney position give the ig2. i worked at 2 oversight entities either of them did not have a

chief attorney position. staff attorneys were capable. revowing the investigations and handling public record's requests and we did not need a chief position. so. i'm amending my motion. >> and may i speak. i am a staff attorney and senior staff council for a state agency. well is a difference with a bureau chief. general council and staff attorney. i think we learned that well from attorney kinds. well is a position where someone can approve things, make budget and a line staff attorney you don't have that authority. i think it is important to have attorney at a chief level. of am i mode why receive and community liaison would be rep did you understandant. i think member palmer would know we discussed about community out retch we need bhon is strategy

in the community with life experiences. also knowledgeable about the community. the modia person handles modia for the department may handle crossover mead why as limp i believe that is important. i do have a follow up question and i know we have been hamper in the this. and member palmer added, secretary leung could we have to aleave i didn't the hats you wear and dpa assisting us in having a staff person start to build up the infrastructure of the office? so i said, we don't want an ig coming in here and being overwhelmd and there will be a learning press a transition process. is there a possibility that dpa assist us in hiring another upon person at this point? i don't know if nicole armstrong

could other thans that or attorney kind? thank you. i don't have an answer to that question. with is all throughout mayor's budget office and hr. we have submitted requests for i budget person to able to help you all this is in the press now. but that is out of our hands we want to make surety process is correct. we would love to hire additional support. i want to make a correction. approximate dan's the only position we're asking for now with the attorney it is a new attorney position the chief attorney it is already on the fwhj is in the something we are it is an additional attorney to help with casework to manage the load and ground w we need in research needed. that is the approximate suspicion on the budget at this time. >> other questions and we do

have on the ids report we kept in the approximate sheriff's durpt see there is 40 grand there. we dhept if the sheriff does have training we can make sure you have training. not just the 1300 there is additional 40,000. than i know you need your train and there will be change overs. whatever helps we want to make sure you are trained and ready to g. >> i understood from the beginning of training we were receiving 25% television and that's why i estimateed be 80 hours we had 20 hours. joy was not part of the training i don't know the hours i want to make sure what you need you have funds and dan has it to do it. and dan is correct they are working on your appointments. there are things i will follow

up. so you will be receiving e mill from dan approximate asking for more information to make sure things are done so you receive stifle ends. >> there are oftentimes additional cut its better to ask for sxhr i would expect them members make themselves visible to appear before the board of supervisors to ask for add backs if there are cuts. and oftentimes the budget is made whole by supervisors. i suspect the experience of this charter would walton would advocate to have a whole budget and when we need to do. >> thank you. >> thank you. being an executive director of nonprofit positions fihad a

dhoons ask the mir for a binge would ask for as many positions and accomplices to be filled. i think it it is in line with our office to ask for more and then take when we get and we will be asking for more after. i would like to see this ride through. >> in response. i will with dru my motion. >> i want to add is that the number of investigators goes with the staffing and the number of deputies and so hopeful low we can attract more deputies that requires investigators as well. >> i do have a follow up question in terms of process. for the purposes of moving forward what are the next steps? the next step is we are going to

reports for our -- our -- -- invoices today. our final reports approved we'll rung the numbers for this fiscal year. final numbers the end of fiscal. we have an estimate q within expect 2 and we can the mayor's budget is due february 21st. >> in order to move forward, do you need an approval of the draft budget today to meet that deadline. with the comments or we will have a some meeting or how is this next step some >> i think the add voice from the city attorney we should vote to which approve >> right y. vote on this draft and we'll work on the final. >> thank you.

>> thank you. i'veed like to make a motion to sends this deteriorate to the mayor's office. >> second. >> we have to take public comment. why members had would like to comment dial 415-554-0001 access code: 2497 440 7820 pound, pound then star 3 to enter the queue.

there is one caller. you have 2 minutes. no audio.... you have 2 minutes. >> this tracie i work for supervisor walten. and i wanted make i have been watching the -- hearing and i wanted make a few comments. my understanding is this only the oig can hire and when you ask for new positions i feel like the new oig should ask for the positions they should need

and so like for this to be taken into account. my understands is the training you keep talking about is in ordinance of the city attorney can find it and put what is required to your budget. defer to her on that. i think that -- you are required to do a formal public hearing on the budget i think this was noticed but not a community forum. and um -- all of our city departments now do that. i would ask that you do that as well. um, i know that um -- we are very interested get oig position filled and it takes a long time this was on the agenda and would love to figure out a way to ghaet pushed forward so it happens as quick low as possible

even if includes adding monnet budget for a recruiting firm or something. we would like to see this happen fast. thank you >> thank you. >> do we need another hearing? as she stated before we can vote on this? >> thank you. sorry. should i repeat the comment?

i just to repeat that i don't think another public hearing is required before you vet to send the budget to the mayor's office. >> thank you. prior motion to approve the budget as presented. we will take the vote for line item 7 vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> member palmer >> aye. >> president wechter. >> [inaudible]. >> item 8 an rureport to the board of supervisors discussion and public action. the discussion report do you to board of supervisors pursunts to charter 4.137b6 and public action.

the city attorney has advise third degree is something this dan could complete. it will cover august through december and we are summarize the minutes. >> i actualliment it make comments and -- this is mandate in the our chart or obligation. i request of secretary 99 've [inaudible] to have it on the agenda i was shock third degree it had not been in prior agendas. i think when we had our first meet nothing august we talked about prior and thes making sure we met mandates. i'm thrilled secretary [inaudible] that the budget presentation was comprehensive and much of this the mandate and had is necessary to start an operating office is really will a great base you. i don't know if we have to make

additions to that report. other then and there down the road we are having community meetings hiring the ig and when we have the presentation by the department of human resource i'm going to talk about the bench marks and the time line i put together and the department of human resource will commentom that so we can offer a real time on our actions and making sure that we do have an i gashing hired before the end of the year. and so -- you know that's what i did. and so, i hope we can add here to this time line and i'm thankful for all the work du and the support dpa.

i move we delegate task of preparing the 2022 annual report to mr. leung. >> i a comment we should ask leung first before we delegate more work to him. i think this is considering this -- to be frank, members who have been doing so much of the work i believe president wechter would do as president this men it would behoove the president to do in of this work rather then and there put it on inthon is already doing so much. i'm happy to collaborate with mr. leung. y yes, we can do that.

>> if we had a draft would you like to have an additional meet thanksgiving amongful i know we are a little we would be almost tardy if we did not have another meet thanksgiving month the dead line is march first. perhaps we might want to talk about the ends scheduling another meeting to review the draft. >> yes. i than is more work. scheduling another meeting for us. it is just we don't want it live. it would be easier to have it recorded. >> it is in the required be live if we have a special meeting. >> i don't believe so it has to be recorded. gi think there might be. it is before march first. approximate but attorney john give in reminded me that march first be different in rules for special meeting.

i can't speak for the others they are dill upon gent in making sure our first and it is annual report not quarter low. that we all have an eye on it and making sure we are responsive to voters but our

constate wensys. i agree. >> likewise. >> me, too. we are new and the first of this board and i think we should shine rather than dully wuk through this process. public comment? >> for members of the public headline like to comment for item 8 if you are present lineup if you are remote dial 415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 pound, pounds then star 3 to enter the queue.

we have one caller. >> you have 2 minutes. this is tracie with the [inaudible] office.

i wanted note that the thereupon is due to the board of supervisors has to be scheduled i have at board president supervisor president peskin. and so -- upon i know the committee take awhile to schedule i urge you to get this on schedule with the board of supervisors ahead of time otherwise, you may not be presented the full board until march or april. thank you. >> thank you that comment is thol us.

second. >> i second. >> i will defer on member palmer >> thank you. >> we'll take the vote for item 8. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye. >> member palmer. >> aye. >> member soo. >> aye >> president wechter. >> aye. >> the motion passes. >> next on the agenda recruitment of inspector general. i understand committee presentation and further discussion and understand some from dhr will be visible to answer questions is this correct? >> mr. sean is here remotely. i believe the camera is on the comments page.

>> discussion and questions regarding this item. >> i believe there is a presentation, right? >> about what has occurred. i guess if i may vice president carrion if i can set the background. the left meeting vice president carrion had a motion to have a committee to draft the inspector general qualifications for the job posting. we did do so. we had a special meeting and that was noticed. i don't know if we need a special motion to disban the committee our task was to come up with the job description. now it is out with the entire

board and over to the city attorney and -- human resources our j.w. is finished rather than having i committee and notice further work it is of the board in a regular low meeting. i don't know if we need to disban the committee? >> i don't think you need to but you could. >> this is a first draft and we really wanted to also thank the presentation florez from the wisconsin inspector general's office for their police department. some of that was taken from the questions and i know this there might have been occurrence there were questions out in the penalty written questions will review someone's thoughtfulness and the ability to community clear in writing. i say that newer attorneys and

may be it is generational are not as solid writers we hoped. that offers an opportunity. and a question i will ask of hr and been to training i went through the interview process for the department on status of women, is that we as board members receive training in terms of per missable question and signing the confidentiality and how we handle interviews in closed session. there will be official. i believe we will ask in i fashion to all candidates. not like we let the cat out. there will be questions and not out in public.

i would like to thank member soo. for all of the work in creating a thoughtful job description. that incorporated you know a lot of information. that was not morely a cut approximate paste but a very thoughtful job description which i think incorporates the issues we have discussed. it is unfortunate we delayed so long in being able to move forward. and i'm happy to address that further later.

>> good afternoon. sean with the d. human resources. i want to thank the president and voip for inviting me to join you today. and thank you for being amenable for having mow join virtually. i would like to acknowledge the w the board has taken in puts forward a draft. job description. at this point. dhr to take on a greater

irrelevant we want to [inaudible] get it done right the first time. export to put our best not forward. so what i'm looking to the board for in term it is of direction is wield like the ability to take this draft job description. go back with my team, working with each one of you as members to get an nltdzing of what the job in your mind entail and what an i deal candidate profile would be and redraft the announcement. bring it become to the full board. and move forward.

that would be our recommendation not sure if you have questions or things i can comment on. but that is how we irrelevant want to approach this and move it forward so we can finds the best oig for the sheriff's department board.

when you meet individually with each member to solicit our input on the qualifications of the inspector general you will ask us for suggested accomplices to post and publicize the announce and want professional or other organizations or job boards to get the widest number of places to disseminate when it is done. correct. il take any inmutt now during our individual meetings and as we move ffrmd i need you all to source out where the candidates will be. gi want to thank you and i hope they offered at least a foundation and taken a lot of burden, i know that department

of human resources is short staffed. and i created a time line tasks and bench marks. it is meant to be a dynamic list not of the ig butt tasks necessary with quarter low reports and the like. i have included the possibility of 4 community meetings. input on qualifications of inspector general and that in tandem as your team as well as the consultation and labor team worked finalize the inspector general's job posting. i wanted to let you know that florez indicateed me she would

send me the list of organizations and trade associations she at the madison, wisconsin office of police oversight sent out. we do have additional resources. and i like you to review that time line and let us know if they are realistic deadlines. thank you y. thank you. i like to mention that i gathered 12 j.w. descriptions for somewhere director positions around the united states. i had done a revision i will forward to you incorporates elements.

again, thank you member soo for even without a title doing the person w. numerous members of the board have been asking for time table and asking for the work to get done. i mroesht you stepping up in that leadership role. even though this is not your task and thank you for create and taking time above and beyond what i think is expects of a regular board member to permit work. will i. welcome input from other members and looking pardon to working with the upon community and

having community input. i already it members of the community i do think we -- should have 4 community meetings. if necessary language interpreters. in the draft job posting i do include that we as a city and county subskroib to -- culturally rope delivery of services from what was called the equal access of service now the san francisco language ordinance. i want to make sure we are inclues exist get input.

ip support commune meetings and think these are our first meetings in the community they should have a focus on the charter. biholding public meetings and soliciting input from importance incarcerated in the city. and receive operations and jail conditions. . president wechter i want to be focused and so we will have those meetings but i want to issue sensitive we are focused on qualifications of the inspector general and the extent we -- go to a facility and

solicit comments and family members of those inparseerated we should guff but focused of getting i job posting out there. i don't want to get distracted by having more than one topic. i am make a motion we ask dhr to move forward with the process. meeting with each us to solicit our opinion. on hashould go in the job description and gather information about places to post it. >> i have a follow up question. >> for sean do you believe a

draft can be presented by next meeting? thank you. that is my hope. there are factors. i think that leads to another question that i would hope you can provide me, which is is there a point person i can work with on the board to have discussions and ask questions. and what manner if i am not able to get a hold of member or questions somebody i can have that discussion with? would be helpful and informative. why i'm happy to serve in that capacity. i would recommend that member soo and myself since we were part of the committee and specific low -- member soo did

the work. and drafting this and have been doing this work. i think that -- if want to have a point person given the amount of work of creating a work product. i would believe that -- member soo would be the best individual. have a first community meeting this month but this mr. shellborn you indicated you prebl have an hr version of the ig job description and pair 3 that we would have -- a second and third community meeting. so -- and i welcome anything other questions or anything you

need -- to make sure we are on the time line for the process. i think the board should vote on we have a motion before us. >> could you restate that motion? that we move forward authorizing dhr to move forward on encrewment of the ig middle easting with each of us to solicit our thought qualifications and suggests to post thing job description. >> second >> public comment.

we have no callers. thank you for being presents to answer questions and lend assistance. >> we will take the vote on the motion for dhr to move forward. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye. >> member palmer. why aye. why member soo. why aye. >> president wechter. why aye. >> motion passes.

i like to make a motion i serves a point person to coordinate. and incorporate input from all board members. you and member so to work together as the point person. can we do that? >> the city attorney? >> it is 2 of you were to work together this would be a committee. so that would trig are public meeting notice requirements. >> i would like to request to speak. at this point i do believe that the appropriate person should be member soo. since august the members had been requesting president week her create priorities.

work on citying community member meetings. these have been battles that have been fought to the downfall of what we are supposed to do. now after, after able to fight toward getting w done. having member soo doing the work. i don't think tell be appropriate for president wechter to come in. my perception hoe is an obstructionist in this regard in allowing us to wanting us to move forward with the actual work we are supposed to be doing. it is unfortunately. my interactions have been

negative. and bills respectful. i believe i'm not the only woman of color who had this experience. at this point, i don't have the confidence in president wechter to move us forward in the direction to hire an ig i don't think it has been demonstrated the past 6 machinings of failed leadership since august and ask our board members rescue noise where the work is getting done. it is common women of color attorneys doing the w and someone swooping in. we have an experienced attorney who has experience draft and i reporter.

part of recruitment for executive director position in a commission for status of women this is when we want to mack myself the skill set we have which is personal. i understand the argument may be that president wechter had experience in oversight boards for a time but here we near a new oversight board and post floyd era we have thankfully more diversity, more diverse perspectives being shown. things are changing because the things the way things were done before in the past 10-20 years have been a problem. so i scholarship the members to recognize the work and the skill set and the specific knowledge base that member soo has.

we have been waiting since august and asks for things. i can give a list but rather focus like i keep sigh saying on getting the work done that the votersment us to get. member soo demonstrated a commitment to doing so and for that reason i would reject that vote. >> i don't want to get in a personal dispute i'm sorry you foal had way about me. i will state they have spent significant conditional amount of time doing research off this issue. gathering the 12 job descriptions of similar positions i sent to all board members several months ago and at your request finding someone who can speak had not used the recruitment firm and i did thought i made it clear that i

wanted to participate and would be happy to work on deteriorating the job description but was not does not have an opportunity to. i don't believe i have not put in effort on this i don't think i become and forth is useful. i think that if other members have comments i would like to hear that and then. no audio. at this time. it took months get to this point. we don't need any of this we need to move forward with the work. also at no time during the last

meeting recording will demonstrate for those interested in learning exactly what happened. review the recording and not take it from bheem were not involved or -- who especially not present for the entirety of the meeting. it is obvious and clear that no time president wechter asked to join. i mentioned you would be great on it. there has been and in fact he did participate as an bencher. i like to have those 2 factual situations clear. the record speaks which is the recording of these proceedings. dooring members have comments on this issue?

gi understands board member soo and president wechter both doing good work and trying to get the oig job description out and hired. so -- i understand -- board member soo wants to participate as the point person and also president wechterments to as well. i would recommend we talk about that subcommittee again so everybody can have a voice in it. >> the subcommittee. >> so. since you want to participate point person and board member soo has an interest we should recontract subcommittee. i believe the issue raise exclude had issues with and the city attorney mention if we have 2 people we need have one person only if we have 2 people we have

all the notice requirements. sthal stop us from being able to dot work individual low that point person will do because every time thereupon is a meeting every time there is an e mail anything drafted needs to be specially noticed for a meeting. we need to select one in order to move forward. and not have any issues with sending one e mail or -- to sean. if there is 2 members on that is a meeting that is an unlawful act. we can't do this. >> i think -- board member approximate afuhaamango volunteered be a part of that. that woulding bring it to 3. right? >> that's community meeting this is is only from my understanding, this is only to

be the point person. this with sean and hr. this is in the to say each individual member will not have an opportunity top meet with dhr regarding their comment specials statements. so each us will have independent process. i believe that the rolled be to ensure it is a lodgist cal tracking moving and pushing it forward. forward. substantively the board has to make a collective decision. we have to have an approval and motion. and that would be i think a way where we could support member soo in the work that she has. approximatements to continue to do. that each person opinion and especially going become to the

constate wents and getting them.

my thoughts on this is leadership has to also galvanize the group example delegate as well. these are 2 important factors in being a good leader. president is diligent in his focus on making sure we get the right inig but i think this is an opportunity for to you trust your colleague and board member and allow her to proceed with the work she has developd and developed in a timely fashion and would allow her to move this part of our collective responsibility forward. and then could be other agenda items and issues you and the rest us could w on as limp that

will give you an opportunity to delegate just different issues and topics and -- and -- other members. we show up as a team and move this forward. we have been waiting for a language time to get this ig right? and so whatever we can do to stream line the process and move it faster in our interest and those we serve. gi appreciate the sincerity of your thoughts and the manner, i will follow your add vice. member palmer. >> i would like to say thank you to my fellow board members, i

don't need a title to dot work i'm a very busy public attorney and schedule 4 hearing in this first quarter and issued pleadings my interest is being efficient and having as few meeting and getting enough public input this is my interest. we waited for a time line. that's why i say drafted a time line of our obligations among low exit don't minds being a point purn know i have been a lead cochair of standing committee for the california democratic party and managed twine writers every other year sometimes not continuing member and turn out a work product. il say if i have to sacrifice slope i do i had a lead cochair who did not dot w and spent 70 hours a week before alone on

that plat form in addition to my workir slept in front of my report of i report work of hr i have experience in interviewing and qualifications of a department head as well and i understands the difficulties with civil service. of but approximate in her other appointee in member brook upper and killer concern approximate she has been supportive of the budget and offered members of her budget office to give us guidance. i will offer up moiz to continue to do the work i fully continued

is easier to have one point person had it come to finalize language and does in the mean that any board member comment and thoughts are ignored but president, this is had i tell junior upon attorneys or lustudents you can't kept on pulling more information without solidify and documenting. you could get yourself in an a cycle looking over documents. i rescue noise other jurisdictions have documents but that is why i have been electric to other jurisdictions who have someone established. because we were turning back and forth for the documents and carrying over agenda items. i notice we have not hit 2 hours yet and got all the items i wanted get on the agenda done when i sought draft of the agenda and the budget was last that did not make sense that is

a prior we need push forward. i'm happy we got everything. next is business cards id and photos we have not didn't basics. i'm willing to volunteer and like to we don't need to do this as a committee but also have the community meetings set in parallel with deteriorating and until it is final the posting goes tout is i dynamic document for input and thank you for the confidence. i don't know if we need a motion i would be human ordvice president carrion if you make it. why move toville member. why i'm sorry well is a motion mr. chairman president wechter do you with draw your motion. >> yes and thank you member soo for your willingness to take on this responsibility.

[no audio] i make a motion to have member soo the point person to work with hr and in the development of the job description. >> is there a second. >> second. before we take a rate we will have public comment. lineup if you are in the chamber if you are remote dial 415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 , pound, pound then star 3 to enter the queue. we have one caller.

>> thymes is tracie. i have my hand up for the last item not this one. i am excited that you guys are moving forward with getting a job description out and i did have a comment on the last one my did not get recognized. my office would love to work on setting up community meetings and different community venues. feel free to reach out so we can secure venues with you a cost. thank you. why thank you. vice president carrion.

>> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye >> member palmer. >> aye >> common soo. >> aye >> president wechter. >> aye >> thank you. the motion passes. >> next item social modia policy. discuss using social media and a social media policy to publicicize the work and public meetings. i believe the city attorney has an opinion regarding had we can consider under this agenda item. >> so the agenda item describes a discussion on possible action on social media policy and i believe member soo proposed a draft social media policy and draft broader mode why communication policy. so, my recommendation is that

the broader media policy is a bit outside the described scope should be sdefred a later meeting. but the socialing mode why policy you provided the draft could be discuss in the this item. does that make sense. thank you. i think at this time i would like to continue the social modia policy discussion and put it in a broader media policy. and i say this because i was quite taken aback by the things articles that were forwarded to me about our board and alining vice president carrion and myself. that to me brings dishumanor toor up early

on when i think it was probably in september or october had social media policy when they were brought up i thought it was person to have a media policy. i don't know if we reference in the rowels of order or amend the rowels of order i leave that to another meeting. i would move to continue this item to next month's item for the purpose of discuss being social media policy in i broader media policy. >> i second this. it >> we have discussion? public comment y. member of public had would like to comment for item 10, if you are present line up at the podium otherwise call 415-554-0001, access code:

2497 440 7820 , pound, pound, star 3 to enter the queue. we have one caller. >> good evening you have 2 minutes. >> i'm francisco decosta. and i see that we have to define that is social media policy. and i say is this because we have to incorporate our youth. to have i say in that is

happening on a commission. the adults can not just a verified catering to the youth and young adults. because the occurrence and issues deeply connected to this segment of the population. that is completely left out. hustudy psychology, social sciences, philosophy, education al issues. more and more than i attends

virtually the law enforcement >> thank you you have 30 seconds. why including this sheriff oversight board which when i get time i will talk about. we need to think about our youth and young adults. and that's what i got to offer. on the social media policy. thank you very much. >> thank you, caller. we will vote on the motion to continue had item. vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen y. aye. >> member palmer >> aye >> member soo. >> aye >> president wechter. why aye. >> the motion to continue is

passed. [cannot hear speaker] the business cards have the same design? the same as ha? there are 4 different designs do they have to pick one. i don't think well is a rowel. no. does not electric like there is a rule. >> thank you. i guess will there be a cost if we get different designs? >> yes. it would be cheaptory get one

design. >> yes. >> they charge for each set up. >> i also have a comment. i believe this i still loved the beautiful seal of the city of san francisco but given there is so much confusion over our name and the sheriffy department is the office we are the oversight board and the sheriff's department of accountability on e mails and on not get stereotype ends i move we adopt beautiful seal of the city of san francisco. would that be design one. >> yes. >> thank you. >> and a back page or back of the card. >> the back with a lot of -- the back with a lot of white space i prefer but wander if that could

be in simple black? i think it would be consistent with if we were to choose design one it have the code in black. approximate i thinkien if it make its easy i have an old black berry reading these code system challenging for my little black berry. [cannot hear speaker] >> we would be consistent with the gold seal like the other cities and a raised gold. >> secretary, i had a gold emboss exclude over the years it became flat if there is a cost that matters to people they have

the flat seals and in the the beautiful gold i do prefer if we were aware of cost they dot flat print now. >> okay. >> doorings have preferences? as an artist i was all right looking at number one myself anyway of the back of it -- i guess i agree, too, with the back being mostly white in case have you to write manage had is project cal than the green. in the this green is bad. >> yea. i go with that. i had a concern in the cost. i know we want to be mindsful of spending citizen's money. of is it significant are we talking 10 or 20 or 50 or thousand? >> no. >> if we did want individual

which i stillment number one i still i think it should be open it people if they want a different card. but my vote is for number one. special number a for the background and i continuing is more project adult have this in black. all would be looking at bar code in black. i agree with both member soo and palmer. i'm a 1a in black also. >> should we have the co is it cheaper if the seal is black rather than gold. >> yes it is cheaper in black. >> that would be acceptable to people number one with the seal in black. i like the flat gold and not upon high luxury with embossed. i think to be consistent

worrying department theys have the gold seal with the city seal. i like the gold, too. i worked for the city was the managers who had the gold staff had black. we are managing. to be cost effectiveness. i don't think it makes a difference. we are talking dollars. if we don't to embossed we have computers having cam are red. used to be if you did thing in 3 colors it was additional but now it is in the an issue >> we need vote this? >> i believe so. we gallon with i will take public comment. >> members headline like to

comment on item 11 if you are (line up. otherwise call 415-554-0001, access code: 2497 440 7820 , pound, pound then star 3. there are no caller. we will vote for design 1 and a design a in black. with the gold seal? upon vice president carrion. >> aye. >> member nguyen. >> aye. >> member palmer. why aye. why member soo. >> aye >> president wechter. >> aye. why the motion passes. i would need all the information you would like on your cards e mailed me.

next item. thank you member soo for future meeting i appreciate this and i would like other members to also make suggestions for either specific topics or generalized goals and like to see us move toward. obviously things may mum that will be priorities that will want to put on the agenda. but i feel we are limited meeting witness i among. i'd like to move considering apointing committee and like you exalt also member brookter and afuhaamango to community with dan since can't with mow on suggestions for potential committees you might want to

serve on. so i think we are a small board and having committees requires you to have notice. and -- i then and there early on you talked about having additional meeting i was that premature unless we knew when he had to do and how time was

spentful feare efficient like today. we don't need committee and if we do take that at a timer. it behoofs us to be well verseod jail operations and site visits i don't think we need to consider committees. our focus is on the ig job posting i don't want to get ahead and i like to follow step by step until we get to the tasks. i will talk about that and if we are finished like to suggest other future item theorys for mr. leung's plate. i didn't will say we can have committees if nobody is interested in serving if members are interested in serving. let me know. i can, point something to form committees. i will let you all speak with

your feet. >> i will say i do value have the per spektdive of my community or board members. i think that it brings i bit more texture and more perspective we would not have. i thank you is personal. had it come to the issues i think that we are discussing incarceration and all of the press being issues. i think it is important for us to work together i'm happy to work with each one of you. and moving forward you know i hope that this is a moment in this board where we are moving forward and getting things done it seems we are. it took a minute. we are here i'm looking forward it working with everyone of you. and this moment i grief agree,

prein tour given when our tasks are priorities are. . and this we. i don't see community members should meetings should be stopping. we should have regular community members on all of these issues and manage this we continue going of i don't find right now, this time, the need of committees can be valuable at certain points. >> yea. joof when the time come i would love to be proactive in jail condition and able to roach out to the people residing in those place and upon getting their feedback for social mode why approximate out reach.

commencements being made we should have a point person to make comment to the media so far weave agree on our voice. i think theuneified voice makes a unified team temperature makes us better and more efficient and builds trust with the communities to stay on message that is important we are -- solid. >> would you like to be that point person? on the social combleefd and stuff? >> that is something we discuss a bit further. but you have a certain expertise. that would be valuable in that role. i than we will consider that -- at a different agenda item. but i agree with member soo for

the sake of time, it a benefit for us to focus that before the committees. men later but i agree with her now at the present moment we focus had we have before us we have a lot on our plate. [cannot hear speaker].

less i think we need to do that and a discussion of id badges. if we have plastic if we have a badge that looks like the worn officer although we are not or a baby star. but down the road had we do facility visits. it is important we have photo id's ready. the hr person asked them on put it in. i of course you said you were looking bo it. he said he would ask thoim if you in i will check with him again. >> i think there is we use air model with the other boards that have in place and go with what they have. we stream line the process. in terms of credentials. >> i agree with you. member leung we were not able to

take our photo and the sensitivity of doing the facility we modify to have additional identification. thank you. we had an agenda item postponed report if the historyy department we need to put back on the agenda i had community members talk to mow about issues they are concerned about regarding the jails. like to get the sheriff's department and making regular reports to us on the sheriff's department activities. staffing and -- programs. and issues. >> and so -- president wechter that's had i had on the time line. recognition of reports from the history's office as we gear toward the quarter low report and buffer continue welbe back to another annual report.

i understand there were complaints and other things and disciplinary actions that might have been sustained. secretary leung we may want to incorporate the things from the history's office intt report so we are not ignoring what d ph and the sheriff's office has done. next among member palmer afuhaamango and care yen their terms xroir and hope you reapplied again. i value all of your inmutt and think we have only beguvenl i hope that will make this public now i hope you are all reappointed so we can continue.

and i would be help to speak on your behalf if we need to have that. because we took offlet and the hiccups it would serve the city that we stay together. and until at least our term allows the inspector to take office. upon then we can cook and then but you know, i'm -- selected in pointed sf in our -- so by the people if they feel there is somebody else better than me, i can concede to that. >> i think you if you remember when i came up with mules. i said if they were making the choice.

i'm happy you are here. irregularities head of jail i believe it is fortunate have michelle phillips open to come before us.

in her first year she gotten riff revows how she handled the office. and that's a hard seat. oakland had a lot of difficult ies. i'm sure she is busy now. with the issues with another police chief. on the approximate in the hot seat 10 police chiefs in the last 10 years is not good. i feel strong low we have michelle phillips speak at the next meeting. i will consider there are other practical tigzers with the similar level experience involving investigative model agencies the oig will be who could speak to how they established offices. gee understand that i think this come with staffing the office

down the road. i want to keep the folk xus be fortunate. in the past if we had a meeting like tonight we could accommodate 2 speakers. i want time exactly have more community feed become. soip want time for community and public meant. and include kathy lee if berkley has 33 years experience the last 7 years was with accountability and the director of accountability and spent time as innerim or police rerowel officer and time as the director of the police accountability. they are priorities there. and i think that in april tell

be a complimentary to have a report on jail healing. down the road you notice once we have the inspector general's posting out there i want to begin a cycle of community engage and want have assist annual chief carter because she does a lot of community out roach. and so i would expect this we can participate in cal dpars because they are social we would not have to notice if there are more than -- a quorum. >> okay. public comment. was there other discussion.

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adjourn am do we need to read the text. >> no. is there a motion to adjourn. before we have a motion i like to wish everyone a happy lunar new year.

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great to be at the kickoff down stairs and in come up here and take care of business. >> thank you. no other announce ams a motion to adjourn? >> make a motion. >> vice president carrion. and i will note this we are giving the public and the staff back 32 minutes. why and i will second this motion. >> any neighy. >> all in favor. >> aye. >> aye >> thank you. meeting ash journaled at 4. . 27 p.m.

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>> as i got into the department and through the years of problems and everything else that means a lot i can represent women and in order to make that change how people view us as a very important part of the vice president you have topanga you have to the first foot chase through the fight are you cable of getting that person whether large or small into captivity that is the test at times. >> as an agent worked undercover and prevent external and internal loss to the company it was basically like detective work but through the company from that experience and the people that i worked around law enforcement that gave me an action when i came to be a cadet i saw i was exploded to more people and the security he was

able to build on that. >> unfortunately, we have a lot of women retire to recruiting right now is critical for us we gotten too low faster the percentage of women in the department and us connecting with the community trying to get people to realize this job is definitely for them our community relations group is out attempt all the time. >> in other words, to grow in the fields he capitalized any education and got my bachelors degree so i can current work at city hall i provide security for the front of the building and people are entering entering but within any security or control within the building and checking personal bags is having a

awareness of the surrounded. >> there is so month people the brunet of breaking into this career that was every for easier for me had an on the with an before he cleared the path for laugh us. >> my people he actually looking at lucid up to poem like he joe and kim and merit made they're on the streets working redondo hard their cable of doing this job and textbook took the time to bring us along. >> women have going after their goals and departments line the san francisco sheriff's department provide a lot of training tools and inspiring you to go into the department. >> they gave me any work ethics she spider me to do whatever he wanted to do and work hard at the intersection.

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>> you don't know what will be inside the canister until you open it. [♪♪♪] >> these are beautiful, historical drawings of san francisco. these drawings range from 1908 to 2010. [♪♪♪] [laughter] >> i build muscle. a lot of people don't know this, but we have a full team of architects that designed specific buildings and public safety. sometimes it is creating a brand-new building from the ground up. other times it is giving new

life to one of our historic structures. [♪♪♪] >> i had to have some degree of artistic skill from a handcraft point of view to become an architect at that time. it is an incredible amount of loss, in my opinion, to not draw by hand. that skill of having to manipulate a pencil or a pen to make line wait and to make the drawing we've. i have seen this development of technology and this huge transformation in the world his that you do leave some things behind that have beauty to them. [♪♪♪] >> now a day, technologies a completely different. we're not using paper, we are not using paint pencils, but we are using computers to model our buildings to produce drawings, it is different craftsmanship. >> in addition to the beautiful drawings, the person who was taking care of our file for

almost 30 years was the one who organized those drawings and listed all of them in big binders with all the name of the projects, and they were still using these which is amazing. >> 840. we are building an electronic archive of all the drawings for future use. the scanning project started back in march, 2018. we have scans about 36,000 sheets of paper and there's the remaining balance of 93,981. we can do about 100 sheets per day. hopefully by february 2020, it will be completed. >> we feel that our collection of historical drawings represents san francisco's a rich history. not only do we help make history , we also preserve it for the benefit of future generations.

february third, 2023 the meeting at 9:34. call the roll. >> good morning. respond with her or present. newhouse-segal. >> present. why lauren post. >> here. >> paul woolford. >> front. >> and commissioner zoubi is out with know excused absence we have 3 members present. we have quorum for the public works commission