gives, i don't know if physically physically if we can get the receives to do all this xr work. i want to make sure i'm clear. the chief in the department we are doing our best. we engineer said how we get our officers out there and understand how important traffic safety is. it is in the. my officers and crew handled 44 fatalities left year this is almost as many homicides we had. i sends my officers to debriefings as if they were n involved in a homicide scene there are wear and tear in the department. to help them out the 4 investigateers, they are on call every other week 2 person teams that is in the a way for your team to live. i'm moving traffic officers who are off on to strand by. in order to go out and place of the investigators.

and i'm trying to i don't -- want to be too dramatic but we are at the brake pad and soon metal will hit metal. we are trying to balance the things and not the same time completely use up our officers. staffing at the sfmta is in the crisis level the pd is worse on february 14 the mayor introduced to the board the question for budget supplemental to help with police department over time today the mir is introducing new legislation for a new contract to help with attraction and retention for the police department. i would argue the best way to get staffing necessary to focus traffic violations to move needle, is to work with the major's office and the board of

supervisors to dpraetsz issues related police department and staffing. >> that mayor be true. again the responsibles i had was that we were able to wall off teams to divert resources to another purpose. and look. we continue to it seems we continue to deal with this subject as an extra. this is city policy. this we achieve zero fatalities. and either we mean what we say or don't, and we are stymied in sacramento. we have a police department here that has jurisdiction over these kinds of citations and rests and so on. and -- they got a set of competing priorities and under staffed.

but that is an explanation of where we are. it is in the a solution. and -- if we don't. if this will not work, then we can may be stop the discussion there. if it might work and we are talking about a budget problem we should talk about this in the context of our agency budget but when you hear every commissioner and director saying, this is one of my priorities, well, then we need to show when we mean by that. thank you for letting mow go on. thank you commander. thank you for the detailed questions, director heminger. i want to say a few comments just to reminds us all we are looking for solutions here. i know it may feel you are under attack. we are trying to surface ideas you may not have had and

appreciate your service and you work heard to solve the issues every day. i wanted to add-on 2 pieces and go to director hinze on the phone. getting you say we don't have enough resources. too big of a job and not enough resource we will heard a lot of conversation about alternatives to traditional mreegs, is there a piece what is involved in traffic safety that could be supported by nonpolice officers we could supplement with am busy dovers or other solutions like that. a license play that license play

minot tell mow who is in the car. does not tell me had they did before or when they are on their way to do. i would never wuk up to a car on a traffic stop without a vest and my utility belt. i had a very successful and lucky career but others have not. for a moving violation. i don't think i would sends up anybody to a car. . i would add one thing. there is an extreme glut of stolen license plates. are paper plates. stolen vehicle this is match the plate the play is stolen from and they are not enter in the system right away. and so you, gaern asking people and might be one in a thouz anldz. i don't know the number.

but again, not knowing who or what or just happened or going to happen. i don't see that as effective. automation, yes. because -- at least then you are not having a human contact with whoever is in the vehicle and you have to track down whether or not that plate approximate registration matches. to send this information. which is a clerical issue. and men the occur is stolen. probably not but you know you can find those statistics on red light cameras how many go to the owner versus a problem. i don't see this day nontraditional law enforcement stops for traffic. >> thank you y. and given this resource scarce ir. is the enforce am you doing informed by the latest data and a conditionous way. we learned that most fatalities

happening sick to 10 p.m. are we focusing limited resource in this time and focusing on the high injury network. over all, yes, you will not see great highway other then and there the neighborhood contacting the supervisor and the police captain from the traffic company or demand is focus on the 5 and collisions. but we do have to do this other stuff. yes this , is the experiment we are working we are in the beginning of month 3. to see how it is working segregate by time and yours approximate what why we are out there. so. hopeful low in the near future we'll be able to take that

parking lot out for those. that will not capture every ticket but for the traffic company on those operations. >> okay >>il make a note to staff part of the vision zero subcommittee i would love to see maps of police traffic enforce am this are listening up or not with the high injury network and the location of collisions. director hinze, please. >> i do have a few economies for commander and [inaudible] for staff. [inaudible] [echo] [inaudible]. it seems to me based on the comments i heard so far is to try to get as much of your [inaudible]. out source but does [inaudible]

individual district [inaudible]. i just want to see if you -- can get more detail on what your plan is with the [inaudible] it is over time but pacifically for traffic enforcement? could you claire foil this a little? what you are plan is. that's something we looked into last week we have a grant for the fiscal year. we have hours left over. it is run by office of traffic safety with the guarantee they have areas it is the state's money to say we like these enforced. so our plan is very similar to what director heminger mentioned was when we have the officers work on the ots guarantee at

stations they will not handle collisions. they will not handle calls for service. now obviously if some catastrophe happened they would be pulled. you mentioned the precursor. we will delve that out in our peck ordof over time for the officers and it is traffic enforce am. if we have officers dedicates 6 hours of doing nothing in traffic you will see more progress, i believe. >> good. >> we heard about certain yours today that benefit under enforce in traffic. are all of the stations going to

be trying to participate in this new effort? >> we'll be open to all the stations. all 10. >> opened to all but not they don't have to [inaudible]. i hope they would. and then so you primary low decide where if you are moving the resources and receives go based on feedback from supervisors and complaints you might get from the public. i'm not sure you were here earlier weave talked about how we need kinds of a triaging where our people and -- when our safety ambassadors go muni? what lines and et cetera. so i am using this [inaudible]. methodology.

were in terms of public feedback. i know that for example, in the tenderloin and bayview? those yours i hear are under enforced in terms of traffic. i want to get a sense of where you are going and what [inaudible]. sort of what [inaudible]. >> thank you. so, we look at all 10 district stationings i'm talking about traffic enforce:we can put aside the grant motional look at all 10 district stagsz. try to be equal as possible. and again president cap upon ain't or board of supervisor had is one compoint most is driven by the traffic division, my captain and lieutenant we look at high injury and collision miss this area.

a lot of it is duplicated. we have multiple yours to check we might have had a fatality we will send officer in response to the high injury network. we will do preventative. we bone want to be reactive. only citing for focus on 5's. when we get to the birth operations speed, we need at least at least 4 officers and a sergeant to do one speed operation. one officer uses the radar gun and the other officers go after the individual and go in 2's. we go over a certain time of it can be all of those but we are using and i have been working with director tumlin. we just had the redo of the high injury network it is easy to target those areas. from that.

>> okay. >> my last question and i will get [inaudible]. i think that you all are doing most low focus on the size -- enforcement side. we were [inaudible] the number one contributor to the fatalities is speed. of so -- i'm curious had extent any [inaudible] haextent [inaudible] speed enforcement [inaudible]. >> depends on the officer's availability of the clear it is harder to do if you don't have the basic numbers. because we don't want to send one officer after a vehicle solo. you need 3. we don't have the numbers. other

is pedestrians. we use a decoy pedestrian walks have you this sxrn other officers. we are doing temperature and prebl not to the numbers that everybody would like. but we realize speed is a collision factor and this it is one thing we look at. >> all right, thank you and for the rest of our speakers, i think for me what was striking [inaudible] the 20 miles per hour speed limit posting of the signs, um -- something we can

think of -- o. i know that in the tenderloin now they have several projects this are in the works. and they also have 20 miles per hour and seen an [inaudible] reduction. but i think also [inaudible] there we have seen that the design and the fatal reductions

have shown positive solutions there. . i think working those working in collaborate and we need to step up our [inaudible] in terms of design will and working in concert. for me, for they fatality the department of public health, the increase in active modes of transportation, scooters and other new wheel devices while research those are devices we want people to use and want them on [inaudible] transportation bithink have a -- sustainable and good facilities for said

modes of transportation. is incredible. we want -- many modes of transportation to be used responsible low so we need to do what we can to, for example, get mobility scooters, sorry. e scooters and mopeds. and off the sidewalk and give them good mobility ways and really -- areas the city were vacant and feel comfortable -- moving around and using the streets safe. [inaudible] need complimentary modes of getting sxoornd we mead to realize the streets are for everyone. and for on chair eaken's point

around sort of community alternatives to [inaudible]. i do think that there are some groups out there that are not traffic enforcement but are some sort traffic ambassadors. i notice there are a now in the tenderloin also. and perhaps other neighborhoods. [inaudible] may be this could be a topic for our vision zero [inaudible]. with that, chair, i thank you for the time and yield. >> thank you, director hinze. director yekutiel. thank you. commander. a couple of specific questions. just because we i don't know we got this slide deck from pd. how many citations was there in the last year. 4,000?

something like that? traffic violations for 4, 006 with 62% on the 5 >> how many, 4,000. how many were speeding? >> i think what we are talking about traffic citations that could kill people we are not talking about tags are expired but you republican a red light or going too fast. why i don't know if there is a break down of that. i don't believe there is. this is a number we can get. >> when could you get that. i would have to talk to our clerk. and have it done. i don't know the turn around for her would be. >> this would be great. you were heir not here in 2010 i good to get a sense 90% drop in

traffic site a recollections i'm interested in the traffic citations that we care borrow withins this could hurt people. speeding and rung a red light would matter. to this body. if i missings director mc guire? no. so -- if you don't mind not to create more work but a little. getting a sense whether or not director heminger's chart is correct a 90% drop in citation and more important low how many citations did the department made in speeding and rung will red lightings over the last 10 years and how this changed. that will help us understand. you guys must keep this miles an hour. i don't know how far become i will ask them to go farz they kitchen the last time might have been for the board of supervisorers should not be that hard exist want to say i want to say it was 2015.

i will check. >> why are traffic citations in the richmond are 10x higher. you hinted men they have less to do on the other more time on hands, perhaps. less calls for service. plain approximate simple. less calls for service, more capacity to go out there and check out to see if people are violating traffic rowels. it is in the that folks in the richmond are violating more it is time and capacity. do you know what -- very specific. how many officers for that station per citizen. i don't know. the richmond is usually the stat you see from the cap upon ain't to the officer opposed i broke down who our officers were.

i want to say that there is somewhere plus or minus 60 officers. which is down a bit. gi know there are 100 officer in thes mission station. the station that my small business is a block away from. and this covers the mission, noe valley and the castro. i saw in your, 38 traffic citations in a year. i tell you there are 38 citations that happen outside my corner every day. i wonder if richmond is dog a thouz abldz citations and fewir officers. like how many officer in mission trike to make super folks are not rung relates in mission, cast reand noevilley wrochlt it is in the a fair comparison. you have to look at calls for service for this district versus the calls for service. you may have if we take 100 and

double. mission and tenderloin in general compote for the most calls for service. so your officers at that staffing level, that's why different districts we base it on how many calls for service. when we were completely staffed, you might see 80 plus officers at richmond but 120-130 the tenderloin. >> i guess my question it for give mow for not remembering, not like you have a unit out there driving around the city purpose it is every day all day watching for speeding and for rung relates it is there are certain folks for each station that have a couple shifts where than i do this. or a unit trying to catch the folks. >> no. the firefighter move is being

able to move ots grant out to the stations. it was held in house. the traffic company had 78 motor cycles and down to 30. so we used to handle that over time. now because we can't handle that, after the regular duties we are parsing it out to the districts we will begin to do this. >> to make sure i understand this, used to be h2 approximate now the capacity moving it to the individual stations to take over. and you think this will result in more traffic citations per station? that would be the hope. there will not be people working those. we are asking for people who are comp 10 in traffic. people when like to do it, like anything and from there our ask is if you want this grants for your station it it is traffic enforce am only.