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address the commission except agenda items and that opportunity will be afforded when it's reached in the meeting. each members of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. again if you're using webex you need to raise your hand or calling in remotely press star three and if you're in the chamber of commerce bers come forward. seeing no members of the public to address you under general public we can move on to -- excuse me? >> [off mic]. >> i'm sorry. is there anything? oh no? department matters please call the next item department announcements. good afternoon commissioners. i am from the staff. i have a number of updates for you. relevant to the landmark program and supervisor

peskin introduced one for the afternoon way and remnant ofon old factory and the staff will work through the designation process on that. supervisor chan initiated mark mags on the allex sander theater on the marquee and the staff is working with the project sponsor to assess the current condition of the building and theater and make sure there's no other items that need emergency removal so in addition i want to note that one of your landmarks also received preservation design award from the california preservation foundation. the tea garden pagoda repair by the recreation and park received an award within last manses shift and preservation technology and the last item to address is the works or recent news on the

clubhouse in certain grove and recently recent damaged by the storm and the crews were cleaning up the building to ensure that the building is basically maintained and place. water has been shut off so it's no longer draining through the building but the building has extensive damage and in terms of next step rec and park are getting a structural engineer to assess the damage and put fencing to make sure people stay away from the landmark and basically working -- they're working with both roofers and urban forestry to secure the area and the building itself so rec and park has been in contact with our staff in terms of next steps and

basically repair, but they are actively working on it as we understand and that concludes my report. >> thank you. if there's no questions we can move on to commission matters. item 2 consideration of adoption draft minutes from march 1, 2023. members of the public this is your opportunity to address the commission on their minutes. again if you're in the chambers please come forward. if you're calling in remotely press star three or raise your hand and seeing none public comment is closed. >> motion to approve. >> second. >> thank you. on that motion to adopt the minutes. >> commissioner wright. >> yes. >> commissioner black. >> yes. >> commissioner foley. >> yes. >> commissioner so. >> yes. >> commissioner nageswaran. >> yes. >> that item moves 6-0. place us on item three commission comment and questions. >> i have one disclosure but i don't

know if i need to wait for the project. >> for which item? >> the last item. >> we should probably just wait for when the item is called >> very good. >> [off mic]. >> commissioner so. >> thank you. i just wanted to make an announcement that according to the california preservation foundation their annual conference is coming up. it's april 19-21, so i think a lot of our planning staff is signed up for it already but all my fellow commissioners if you want to join this is a good time to get your learning hours and it's good programming to. >> [off mic]. >> it's in forth mason and the last day is going to have a lot of exciting tours. one of the tours actually to the cemetery that we had just landmark and commissioner johns were there and commissioner commissioner matsuda, president matsuda was there as well and i am also helping them

to host a few tours at the potrero hill power southeast water pollution control plant station and i believe commissioner wrightya company worked on that project as well and it's exciting and the california preservation annual conference. next month so you can go online and sign up. that's all i wanted to say. it's a good organization to be in. >> thank you. >> no other announcements commissioner so? commissioners no other announcements? okay. if there are no other announcements then if you would just for your benefit commissioner jones specifically the mayoral nominee victoria gray was rejected by the board of supervisors so you're with us for the foreseeable future.

>> [off mic]. >> 7-4 if anybody was interested. very good commissioners. that is for consideration for continuances and case four as cited for the castro theater at thes address of decrease one castro street. a certification of appropriateness is proposed for continuance to april 13, 2023 with a joint hearing with the planning commission sethis is on a thursday and expected to start at 10:00 a.m. commissioners on that thursday morning. we expect a fair number of public comment on this matter. members of the public this is your opportunity to address the commission on the continuance calendar item number 4only on the matter of continuance. again if you're in the chambers please come forward. there are no people joining us remotely so public comment on your continuance calendar is closed and it is now before you commissioners. >> excuse me jonas i need to recuse

myself, request recusal for the continuance item. >> motion to recuse. >> second. >> thank you commissioners o that motion to recuse. commissioner wright. >> yes. >> commissioner black. >> yes commissioner foley. >> aye. >> commissioner jones >> yes. >> commissioner so. >> yes. >> and commission chair nageswaran. >> yes. >> so moved commissioners. commissioner wright you are herewe excused. i don't think you need to leave the room. it's a procedural matter. i wouldn't bother leaving the motion. on the continuance calendar. >> motion to approve. >> second. >> thank you commissioners. on that motion to continue item four as proposed. commissioner black. >> yes. >> commissioner foley. >> aye. >> commissioner jones >> yes. >> commissioner so. >> yes. >> nageswaran. >> yes so moved commissioners. that moves that passes unanimously 6-0 5- zero and place us

under the roll calendar for five through d for case numbers as cite from the agenda. for the properties at 221 sansome street, 177 brannan street, 490 taraval street, 412,119th street respectively. they're all legacy business applications. >> commissioners before we start the presentation i want to introduce to you one of our new staff to the commission even though she's has been with us for four years of the aida is presenting and born in san francisco and with the department and has a bachelor's degree in planning and

administration from university of southern california. i know very different schools. prior to joining the department in 2019 she worked in affordable housing development and she's currently a planner on the enforcement team as well as our district 4 team so welcome aida. >> hello commissioners. elena moore planning staff. we have four legacy businesses today and staff will present and members of the public and business representatives have the chance to comment during public comment. thanks. . >> good afternoon commissioner s.

mendel's is i third generation one stop shop for crafting, art and fact and i can other creative supplies in the heart of the hate ashbury neighborhood. it was founded in 1958 by sara and mentel hirschbit and selling house paint and supplies and original on haight street and called you save paint and linoleum and the business relocated to it says presentation location at 221 sansome street. in the 1960's and 70's during the height of summer love culture in san francisco the store gradually ceased selling those products and switched to arts and crafts materials. the store was popular with bohemians and artists in the neighborhood and beyond that went to the store for paintings and fabrics and supplies and

continues to today. they're committed to safeguarding the tangible features of the business and staff is highly supportive of this application and add a resolution to add them to the legacy business registry. thank you. next up is aida tan. >> thank you brandon. good afternoon commissioners. aida tan planning staff. the legacy business business application today is for bernie's pet shop inc. a 34 year old women owned dog grooming business founded in 1989 by bernie mashadow and operated out of the mission district before opening the current location in the south beach neighborhood at 177 brannan street in 2011. bernie's pet shop provides services to over 6,000 canines a year and committed to maintaining professional and compassionate grooming. they're a vocal advocate in encouraging owners to spay or neuter pets and educate their bay

area customers about the grooming process and proper pet care. the hands on of the work is the first line for health risks to pets and their staff makes referrals to vets. in 2006 bernie was offered the opportunity to operate the business at the san francisco animal control and care facility where she provided services free of charge to thousands of dogs waiting forever homes and increase awareness about animal shelters. additionally the dedicated staff at bernie's pet shop are committed to providing professional mentoring and hands on training to the san francisco community and offer lessons to youth showing the basics of bathing and grooming and have the responsibility to care for animals while receiving job training and work experience. bernie's pet shop is committed to providing complete transparency in the grooming process. the store front has large windows that face on

to the street allowing the public to look in and observe their practices which is not common in the industry. the business continues to tailor appointments to the pets needs and cares for them in a safe and professional manner. staff supports this application and add the resolution bernie's pet shop to the tree. thank you. healthier samuels will present next. >> hello commissioners. healthier samuels planning staff. the 30 legacy business today is guerra's quality meets at 490 taraval street and a butcher deli and small grocer which served the sun side and park side neighborhood since 1954 and associated with the trade of butchering, select select items from italy and sources most of the meat locally to sustain and

help california's food industry. the brothers who immigrated to san francisco from war torn italy learned the trade in the marina and founded guerra's meats on taraval street where they took provide serving the culturally diverse neighborhood and close knit community of irish and italian immigrants. as they continued to thrive and move locations they stayed in the same neighborhoods going beyond serving their community. the business is highly involved as a donor and participant in events by local schools and catholic churches and deliver food to the elderly and disabled in the neighborhood and alleviate chunger in the city and by providing food and groceries to the non-profit food runnerrings and making sure no one is last behind and

supports the employee and independent and union butcher which is one of the last in san francisco. they provide competitive wages to the 95% native born san francisco workers and prioritizes employing local youth after school and on weekends. not only to teach fundamental skills and work ethics but pass on the beloved trade of butchering. staff recommends this application and add a resolution to the legacy business registry. i will hand it over for the next legacy business. >> good afternoon commissioners. i am from the planning department staff. the last legacy business application we have today is the castro village wine company. castro village wine company is a do teak shop specializing in california wines and

located near the corner of 19th street and castro street in the upper market neighborhood and founded in 1980 by partnering of the company and used the space to enrich the lgbtq plus community in the castro and hence the focus on the new emerging world of california wines. this reflected the new community lgbtq plus residents were building at that time and a symbol of looking forward. as one of the first wine boutiques in california to focus exclusively on california wines the shop grew along the california wine industry over its 43 years. the shop offers a wide assortment of wines across all styles prices and regions raging from napa valley reds to blends from pazo robe else to up and coming wine

makers. as one of theod evident lgbtq businesses in the neighborhood castro village wine company aims to provide an exurinclusive and welcoming space for anyone interested in wine and wine culture. in the store residents and visitors with varying levels of experience and exposure can receive unimintimidated education and tastings and meet with other patrons. in addition castro village wine company provides job and development to women, people of color, lgbtq plus people interested in wine and spirits and committed to safeguarding tradition of being a california wine shop and a proud member of the lgbtq plus small business association. the shop is committed to maintaining their vintage cork screw window display and a welcoming and inclusive environment. the department support this is

application and recommends a resolution to add castro village wine company to the legacy business registry. this concludes staff presentations. thank you. >> thank you. that concludes staff presentations. we should open public comment. members of the public this is your opportunity to address the commission on any of these legacy business registry applications. again if you're in the chambers please come forward. if you're calling in press star three or raise your hand via webex. >> good afternoon commissioners. my name is adam with supervisor mandelman's office and i am filling in for jackie who can't be here. i want to speak on 5b. we're in full support of castro village wine company being added the registry. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me today. it's an honor and a privilege to share what i have done for

my entire life with you. i can't think of a better city in the world to do business mine is dog grooming. i'm sorry i'm emotional. it's just been an amazing journey in my life to do what i love, and to share it with young people and for the first time give them the opportunity to experience people loving what they do. i would be honored and privilege to be a part of your legacy. thank you. >> last call for public comment on any of these legacy business registry applications. >> thank you sir. my name is mark sherman and a business partner at guerra's quality meats and thank the commission for giving us this opportunity and thank my fellow applicants for fighting day in and day out year after year

decade after decade during uncertain times as well as certain times to keep these small businesses afloat. we are all still small businesses, and we are really businesses that you know obviously we want to make a profit but even when we're not making the profits we hope to make we're out there hoping to provide for the communities that we serve, and as our names continue to grow and our reputations we find that the communities we serve out grow the neighborhoods we're in. that includes people that are looking to have their pets taken care of, their dogs, so i just want to leave the committee with this small story. i have 100 stories i could tell you but i would like to tell the story when is you come to my shop over the counter as i do everyday. i will say when they made me an offer to become a minority owner at guerra's one of the

out going partner who is had been there for 64 years paul, asked me to make him a promise. he said "please i need you to do everything you can to keep this business going for another hundred years" and i was proud to make him that promise. not everybody in my life thought i should take them up with this offer. some people in my circle said you're not going to make the kind of money you think you're going to make and i told that particular person i wasn't in it for the money and the small business. a cause worth fighting for and thank the committee for helping us continue this fight. thank you. >> okay. last call for public comment. seeing no additional requests to speak commissioners public comment is closed and these legacy business applications are before you. >> commissioner so. >> so i am feeling

the emotion so it's really appreciative for everyone to be here today. first i'm going to have to thank you for the courage for our new -- not so new staff but she came on and delivered your inaugural really successful speeches. thank you for doing that. i can tell you practice a lot but the rest i want to applaud the small business department. the gentleman in the back of the room. you are the way for the city to maintain the cultural heritage of every fabric of all the small businesses. i run a really small business myself but i don't have to work with a store front so it's a slightly different kind of struggle but i understand the going through all the pandemics and all the ups and downs and the neighborhood changes, the struggles that you have but i would say i would

drive across town to buy meat from your store and it's so much better than anything else and keep it up. i know a lot of my friends go to your place for quality meats and i get my wine over there at castro and thank you adam for coming here today and thank you for being here for grooming all the pets. pets are basically everybody's children so i am fully support all the recommendations and appreciate all the staff taking time to actually gave us such an amazing presentation of every store so did i miss anyone? i think i -- yeah. that's all i wanted to say. i never visit the craft space but i just really felt that the stories you show up to help me to tell all of us it's heart felt like everyday we're fighting for small businesses and

maintaining our curt heritage so thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> commissioner foley. >> yeah i would like to say it's all of you people and i know i repeat myself a lot and it's all of you people that read fabric of the city and creates the community and the planning staff worked to bring all these people together and the packages and working with the legacy business office is spectacular and thank you everyone here. >> commissioner johns. >> thank you. this is always one of my favorite parts of these hearings because well there's so much good feeling, so much strong feeling in the room and also because i sometimes learn about new businesses that i didn't know about before, and today that's almost all of them exempt for one and that is the quality meats out on that reside in their traditional territory. i tell you if you like.

>> . >> lamb chops that's the place to go. >> [off mic]. >> commissioner wright. >> yeah thank you. well, i just want to thank all of the applicants again for your hard work and planning staff's hard work and the departmenting and the legacy business department's hard work bringing these great projects, businesses for consideration and now i have on my list for mendel's for the next time i need a craft, and i was moved by the presentation for bernie's pet shop both because of the emotion i think. it's very clear you're

passionate and you're really trying to run a great business and teach the trade , and i was also particularly what struck me too was the fact that you were invited to provide this free service i think for the spca and i think that's very telling. it says a lot about your business and about your practice, and what you do, so thank you very much. well, i have heard several recommendations for the quality meats and i i'm going have to make my out to 15th terraval and fortunately my friend lives next door and now i know and i live in the castro and excited to check out the wine store and with particularly struck by the fact that you have been

there for 43 years and are doing a good business for the community, so thank you very much. >> thank you. commissioner black. >> like my fellow commissioners it's always a joy to review these applications. in particular this time there were some really touching stories. i love how there's the common thread of immigrants, and then people who take over for the immigrants who promise to keep a business going for a hundred years. people who feel so passionate about what they do everyday for their neighborhood and the city at large. these are not our corporate companies. we have corporate companies and they give back to the city and there's lots of newspaper articles about it but all of you give back to the city in so many incremental ways and really the value of that is collectively

much greater than what some big corporate tech company d it's really important when you give money to the schools and the churches and the non-profits, and teach san francisco youth to be responsible and train them, give them a shot at something they may want to do for a living. i think that's really, really important. i want to say i had a lovely conversation with mr. sherman out in the hall before the hearing today, and he spoke a bit about his business. what he didn't tell you what he goes through to make his customers happy and how he works hard to find the right employees for his business and that's really important, and so thank you all. you all do so much for the city and we're very, very grateful and even though they're not here today i must say i am

more familiar with the castro village wine company more than i like to admit. i used to grab something on the way home coming back home from work leads say just friday nights. thank you very much. >> thank you. i will just say a few things. i was touched with the guerra's and bernie's comments and primarily because i love what i do in my work as an architect, and i didn't do it for the money and i didn't do it to be famous. i did it because i loved it so i appreciate what both of you do and i appreciate you saying that because it's very important to know that so many people have that earnestness about them so i appreciate that and obviously small businesses need the encouragement and

also you know their own academy awards for doing what they do because you know like commissioner black said it's usually the big corporations that get noticed so i appreciate that. i just had a couple comments on the buildings themselves. i noted that mendel's is in category a building and not that matters much but in the descriptions it asks about whether it's in a historic resource or it's considered part -- you know what i mean, and so i think we were recognizing them when they were part of an eligible district but not necessarily eligible to the california registry as an individual building. the other comment is for guerra's, the building in guerra's category b and as i understand it currently the

survey is priority equity and then eventually they will get to that area to evaluate some of the other properties but mayba you can speak more to those? >> sure. happy to and if maybe elena if you want to add anything else. correct. so the survey is focused on the neighborhood commercial corridors so there's a chance we will be hitting on the legacy businesses or the buildings within them and the zoning of housing is doing and logically a lot of the survey information will help feed into the analysis work they're doing so our staff is pivoting towards neighborhood commercial corridors between priority equity geography and rolling out through the rest of the city especially since we have the statements already adopted for the neighborhood commercial areas in terms of the staff reports and the recognition of the historic resource status maybe i will

ask elena to address that. >> yeah i can speak to that. in the executive summary there's one portion at the end of the narrative where we list the historic rating of the buildings and then a couple sections where staff can include information about whether the property is on a listed registry like the national registry, and there's a couple other sections where staff could add information whether the property is associated with a historic context statement or part of a cultural district so there's some sections there but we can double check on the application to make sure that the information is included in it. >> i think one of the things outside of legacy business is of degree when a knowledge is category a it's eligible to the california register in my mind it's always been the case that it's considered a local

"listing" versus an official listing on the california register and if that has any you know -- is it a local register? >> so usually the category a is like our catch all for particularly for the purposes of ceqa basically where it is so it could be something that is listed. it could always be something that is determined eligible so it basically flag for the public and the staff to both recognize when something is historic but in any number of capacities either locally, state or federally, so once you kind of dig into the category a little bit and research the information that's how we can determine where and how it was determined to be historic >> and out of curiosity when do you elevate to a landmark or that level of [inaudible].

>> sure. with a lot of the landmarks we work with the community partners particularly for the local program and obviously the board of supervisors frequently nominates landmarks to us particularly in light of equity resolution that we have from the hpc and the planning commission we're trying to partner more with communities to see what buildings they want to nominate so it's no longer about what we as staff think want we're here to facilitate your needs basically and how the landmark recent is evolving into. >> the question came up and guerra's has such character, the building has such character and highlight that some of the legacy businesses are also potential landmarks or historic resources. thank you. >> commissioner johns do you have another comment? >> yes, i do. i move

that we adopt the recommendation for approval. >> i second it. >> second. >> thank you commissioners. if there's nothing further there's a motion seconded to adopt recommendations for approval for these legacy business registry applications. on that motion commissioner wright. >> yes. >> commissioner black. >> yes. >> commissioner foley. >> aye. >> commissioner so. >> yes. >> commissioner johns. >> commissioner. >> commissioner nageswaran. >> yes. >> that moves 6-0 and place on the final item on the agenda today number six. case number as cited. at 1509-1511 haight street also 10 as 10 lombard street. this is for your review of proposed alterations. . >> . >> good afternoon commissioners. i am department staff. the item before you

for 1500 sansome street. it's an information on the changes round number two a structure at the landmark at house complex and site owned and operated by the port of san francisco. though port properties are not obtained to get certification of appropriatenesses given the commission's charge and authority over landmark properties staff would like to ensure review and opportunity for public comment. no work is proposed for the historic structures on site whereas the 1984 round house two building would see inkind replacement of windows and roof and mechanical penthouse and are placement of the existing solarium and staff says they're limited in nature and confined to the structure and maintain the compatibility. the department received no public correspondence over the project and that

concludes the presentation and staff and i are happy to answer any questions that you may have. thank you. >> if that concludes staff's presentation we should open up public comment. any members of the public please come forward or raise your hand via webex or press star three if you're calling in remotely. seeing no requests to speak commissioners public comment is closed and this matter is now before you you. >> i just have one disclosure. >> oh yes? >> i used to work for the preservation architect that is on the project, and did not work on this project. >> yeah commissioners just to provide some color which i think jonathan provided in the staff report. obviously the port's unique position in our city government and state government

basically lends itself to towards the more specialized review so this is just opportunity for you to provide any comments so if you have none and the port's amazing staff do their good work. thank you mark. they have a staff preservation planner that basically manages quite a bit of their work so a lot of things you're seeing from them come from him. >> this is an informational item commissioners so there's no action before you. >> yeah the only -- oh commissioner black. >> i just wanted to -- [off mic] i just wanted to thank staff for bringing it to our attention. i appreciate it. i don't have any comments. >> [off mic]. >> thank you. thanks

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near great highway. it operated from 1925 to 1971 and was one of the largest pools in the world. after decades of use, less people visited. the pool deteriorated and was demolished in 2000. built by herbert flyshaker, pumps from the pacific ocean that were filtered and heated filled the pool. aside from the recreational activities, many schools held swim meets there. the delia flyshaker memorial building was on the west side of the pool. it had locker rooms with a sun room and mini hospital. in 1995, a storm damaged one of the pipes that flowed to the

ocean. maintenance was not met, and the pool had to close. in 1999, the pool was filled with sand and gravel. in 2000, the space became a spot for the san francisco zoo. these are some memories that many families remember swimming at flyshaker pool. >> this is one place you can always count on to give you

what you had before and remind you of what your san francisco history used to be. >> we hear that all the time, people bring their kids here and their grandparents brought them here and down the line. >> even though people move away, whenever they come back to the city, they make it here. and they tell us that. >> you're going to get something made fresh, made by hand and made with quality products and something that's very, very good. ♪♪ >> the legacy bars and restaurants was something that was begun by san francisco simply to recognize and draw attention to the establishments. it really provides for san francisco's unique character. ♪♪ >> and that morphed into a request that we work with the city to develop a legacy business registration.

>> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and

then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child

and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut,

you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important. ♪♪ >> the service that san francisco heritage offers to

the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪♪

and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city. pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor.

>> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff.

at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. ♪♪ the san francisco music hall of fame is a living breathing world that's all encompassing about music. [music playing] it tries to do everything to create a music theme. music themes don't really exist anymore. it is

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>> in 1948 swensen's ice cream used to make ice cream in the navy and decided to open up an ice cream shop it it takes time for the parent to put money down and diane one of the managers at zen citizen in arena hills open and serve old-fashioned ice cream. >> over 20 years. >> yeah. >> had my own business i was a firefighter and came in- in 1969 her dad had ice cream and

left here still the owner but shortly after um, in here became the inc. maker the manager and lead and branded the store from day to day and in the late 90s- was obvious choice he sold it to him and he called us up one night and said i'm going to sell the ice cream store what you you talking about diane came and looked at the store and something we want to do and had a history of her dad here and growing up here at the ice cream store we decided to take that business on. >> and have it in the family i didn't want to sell it.

>> to keep it here in san francisco. >> and (unintelligible). >> share worked there and worked with all the people and a lot of customers come in. >> a round hill in the adjoining areas loved neither ice cream shop in this area and support russia hills and have clean up day and give them free ice cream because that is those are the people that keep us the opportunity to stick around here four so many years next generations have been coming her 20 er thirty or 40 years and we have the ingredients something it sold and, you know, her dad said to treat the customers right and people will keep on

coming back and 75 or 74 years, you know, that is quite an accomplishment i think of it as our first 75 years and like to see that, you know, going into the future um, that ice cream shop will be around used to be 4 hundred in the united states and all gone equipment for that one that is the first and last we're proud of that we're still standing and people people are you tell people it's been around in 50 years and don't plan on p

by for the san francisco small business commission meeting of march 13, 2023. >> welcome to the small business commission meeting march 13, 20 23. the meeting is called to order in person in city hall in room 408 and broadcast on sf gov tv. viewed on sfgovtv 2 or sf tv.org. there will be a opportunity for general public comment at the end of the meeting and a opportunity for comment on each discussion or action on the agenda. for each item will take public comment in person first and then remotely. the number