>> i will be remiss if i do not mention persian new year last week and the fact that spring just started, which is exciting. but unfortunately it is great we seat rain but we don't see a lot of spring sprouting now but hopefully soon. with that we will start the meeting. >> president ajami. >> here >> vice president maxwell. >> commissioner paulson. >> commissioner rivera. >> here. >> commissioner stacy. >> here. >> we have a quorum. member who is wish to make 15 minutes of remote comment up to 2 minutes on an item by dialing

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manager. >> thank you, madam secretary. 4a, is a water supply condition update from steve richie. >> a pol gees steve richie. can i have the slides, please. the slides men i bit for you fer lutz there is a lot of water and has been for awhile now. okay. reservoir storage is about where it has been. it is not full across the board

exempt for water bank we are making room for the snow melt to come there is still a lot of snow on the mountain. around the state, the reservoirs look good. i kept pointing out the state pays attention to orvil and shasta in the north of california they are basically both at or above average for this time of year. a big change there in the whole state water picture. >> california drought monitor the light areas are less draught. most of the state is white now not have been the picture for a long time. hetch hetchy precipitation, you see it it is above excuse me... it is above 50 inches already. and still climb nothing terms of precipitation. this is 10 days ago i looked at

yesterday's report and it climated up more. and it it is climating now. >> you will see here that march is at least double what the precipitation would be for the month. that is still climbing. we may get to the point it is tripled the average precipitation for march. similarly in the bay area, there is 6 inches there. when normally there is 3 and a half inches in march and so we are doing very well on precipitation. the snow pack, well, it is just yesterday's reading was almost up to 250% of the april first median. there is like -- an extensive amount of snow up country will present issues as it starts to melt in terms of management of flows. we'll work closely withtur look

modesto irrigation district to limit the tuolumne and san joaquin rivers. water available to the city it crept up a bit from last weekch now it is above 900 it is 975,000 acre feet. we are on your way to be above anything we can store. we only required 620 acre feet to fill the system >> precipitation. you see that in in week, they are in the low are quadrant, it is looking like more precipitation i'm not sure what the outlook is for the rest of the week. and demand, again stayed very low. no irrigation is going on as far as i can tell it is low on upon

demandses. below any of the prior years. inspect lower right hand corner together san francisco and wholesale customers for the period of july 1 last year through the date here saved almost 13% of water over the baseline period. people have done a good job there. um that's the slides. i think everybody is aware that last week the governor meated another draught emergency declaration did not total low end the draught. because they are looking at other things down the road. but did indicate the governoror said he was lifting the 15% reduction for agencies around the state. unfortunately this does not change the fact the water board adopted regulations they have to do something.

regardless we are coming back next meeting to lift the local draught emergency and the draught surcharge, and then a clause about when the state water board regulations are lifted that the other restrictions will be as well. that item will be before you on april 11th. and i will be happy to answer questions. >> thank you, mr. richie. >> commissioner max women >> with the tuolumne, is this record study now. so would the flooding be more than it has been before? >> no, this year is still not record setting i say. it is a big year. you know 1983 was our record setting year. there were also periods of flooding over time. the most recent big flood in 1997. hopefully everybody learned more since then and we are managing better collectively.

floods in the irrigation districts have a flood responsibility on the tuolumne we have a responsibility as well to operate prudently so we don't exacerbate anything they might be doing yoochl what are the fierce of the flooding in the -- excuse me i missed the first part >> haare some of the problems that would happen if it were to flood. because it seems normal that a river would flow and -- flood sometimes. >> yea. they do flood sometimes. what you see down stream from don pedro an area that is channelized that can carry 9 upon,000 cubic feet per second. we could see levels above that. further down stream this , is a project that this commission criminalitied 2 million dollars to called the dos rios project for the 2 rivers san joaquin and tuolumne coming together.

establishment of purchasing land and establishing a flood plain area that prom vieds habitat and flood protection and earlier this year, it performed well in an earlier high flow. we expect similar results as we move forward. that occurred in about 2015, i think that took place. it has been developed be an additional flood control measure. this year should be less than it would have been with the addition of that project for this level of flow. again, we seen down stream floodoth tuolumne in the past and then translate to the san joaquin river there are different flows. that's where the governoror was pushing for the opportunity for folks to reach levelys intentionally to allow flood plains in or flood waters in

flood plain and agricultural areas that could improve ground water percolation. there may be some of that going on and unintentional bricks that could happen. yes or no low, in this area t is mostly farms that get flooded. when it occurs. there may be residents as well. at this time be a big year from every river there it is a lot to expect. the temperature and the occurrence everybody raising in case temperatures rise quickly and the melt happens fast. my question for you was in the slide you had on the reservoirs in the state don pedro looks of full. is there some strategies implemented to make sure there is space there in case.

am you know we had a quick melt. >> don pedro i was just well overnight weekends and don pedro has i fair amount capacity left. they have a flood control curve and have been working close low with us and others on forecasting foreign reservoir operations to make sure they are doing not just following the curve but trying it make good decisions around that so release when there are releasing more in times when there are weather space so you have a bit more capacity. there are i should say. 19, 2017 -- was the most recent big year where there was flooding. and fortunately or unfortunately, most of the people who are around in 1997 were not there in 2017.

people there will in 2023 were in 2017. any lessons learned they carry forward now. we allow for them to create more space. >> thank you. >> one other question is regarding the draught emergency surcharge we put in place. we put this in place last year and we are taking it like we are hoping to lift it this year or -- not have it anymore. so i'm wondering if there is a lag in this process this we have to think about if this draught come back next year do we need to think about the timing and how we manage that i'm not expecting an answer but something for us to think about partly because it seems that the draughts are more common these days than the wet years we are

experiencing. i noticed with the governor's sort of emergency declaration, or draught emergency declaration. it took awhile to get the points of declairing the draught emergency and a while to get measure in place had we had everything in place we are lifting it. and again if the draught come back next year and have another 24 years before we do something makes me wonder had is i broken cycle we have to somehow deal with. since our system is a storage based system. we have more storage than most other folks bought of our water rights, we need that storage. we are going to be full so the expectation is if a draught begins next year.

we will not put anything in affect because we are sitting high. skoal i would not expect would not expect an emergency declaration we may call for measure conversation. 2 years in. that will start to change. >> right. >> but there is a revenue component attached f. we want to encourage people to use less water and if there are another droughts upon us. we don't know. say next year is another dry year. and so we have to somehow figure out the relationship between maintaining and operating our system in a healthy way and also being able to encourage people to save and comfortable. >> i think we have been doing that directly but in close communication about lifting the draught surcharge and official low water enterprise is in good

shape we don't have a need for it to continue. a clear conversation on do we or noted and they felt comfortable at this point yoochlt thank you. colleagueings. >> i was wondering about the trinity story. i look at the storage it it is still low. trinity is different than many others. a lot of the diversions from the trinity are transferred over to the sacramento riverside. and that water guess to central valley contractors. that is why trinity is running low in generally does because the water is moved to a different watershed. can we have public comment? members who wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 4 athe water supply

condition update press star 3 to speak. do we have anyone present to comment? do we have callers with hands raised? >> there is one caller in the queue. caller, you have 2 minutes. >> thank you. this is peter drubbingmeyer for the tuolumne river trust. i mentioned the water supply conscience report is the first things i look at when i receive your agenda. you know, the title change friday draught condition update for a good reason. i was curious i looked at the reports overnight past couple of years. in 2021 reports through the october 26 meeting. november ninth it was titled. draught condition for the first

time. and meeting on november 21st. or 23rd, i'm sorry. the only time in all of 2021 that you did not get a water supply report at a regular meeting. that was the meeting when you declared a water shortage emergency. am strange at the meeting where you had the emergency du in the receive the water supply report. at the meeting before, we learned storage on november first of 21 was 1, 53,000 acre feet over a million acre feet. 2 huh million gallons per day was thaurndz 8 years.

2022 there was one meeting where you does not have a water supply report when we had the work hop on the design draught. when staff says that water basin might not fill and bad to run out of water. so the lowest water was -- may be 230,00080 are feet. norrage was. time expired. thank you. there are no more callers in the queue >> public comment on 4a is closed. >> item 4b is hetch hetchy improvement program quarter low report from randy anderson. >> can i have the slides. good afternoon president a jam secommissioners i'm randy anderson for mountain tunnel improvement project stand nothing for katie miller.

she is on vacation today. i will share the second quarter of the fiscal year. october first-december 31 of 20 twoochl i will share highlights from the mountain tunnel project. >> this pie chart shows the program status with 9 project in preconstruction. 6 in construction, multiple phases and two project in close out for a total of 17 projects. 211 admissible has been spent to date for 27% completion. 15 million know spent reporting a construction activity on several projects. this table shoes a summary of expendures and costs grouped by funding source, water, power and joint. there are now costs for this

quarter with 34 million forecasted cost increases for the program since last quarter. these variances all aline with the revised project budgets and scheduled that you approve in the february for future fiscal 24-33 and year c ip. a few of the budgets show increases for reasons. i will provide more on the variances. this slide shoes cost and schedule variances. there are 4 projects with costs variances and 3 projects with schedule variances. note that all of the projects are in preconstruction phases. the low number of only 14 out of 17 projects with cost changes and all in preconstruction, is a good indication the programs on electronic for successful delivery. and now i will share a few project highlights.

>> the moccasin power house generator step up project, the second transformer in this photo was delivered to the site in october and successful low installed during the winter system shut dowelling. as reported, the generators contractor responsiblesed procurement in staffing challenges. made a decision not to allow a notice to proceed this year and delay the construction by a year. delaying the work representatives a risk to hemp hemp theis the better choice to assure work would be performed safely during the shut down window. >> powerhouse system delivered a cost estimate higher than the budget. we are review thanksgiving and will report in future updates. the moccasin rehad been project. performed assessment testing on

segments of the pipelines from 100 year old hammer forged welded steel. cracks were observed near the seam was pipes. we are looking at full replacement for the sections of the pin stocks rather then and there repairs. >> mountain tub this . is the one i'm the project manager on. i'm pleased report outage 2 was a success a big win for the project. and puc we have water flowing through the new water conveyance piping at the flow control facility shaft and successfully integrated all 3 tie in locations with the mountain tunnel. the outage was unique and unpresidented the start of the outage pushed back 20 days due to the january storms and we had to contends with damage on access roads that needed to be cleared get to the outages to provide ventilation.

despite the storm challenges including rused shut down of 60 days to 49 days we met all project goals for the shut down. this photo looking down from the top of the crane shows the completed excavation and lining of the flow controlled shaft. at the bottom of the shaft the 2 bypass tunnels excavated up to the outage hold point and the water pipes installed all difficult to see at the bottom of the shaft the bypass tunnels. most of the work was in preparation for the 23 winter outage and included, completing all initial lining and i portion of the final lining. excavation of the 2 bypass tunnels, the large diameter conveyance pipe nothing bypass tunnels up to the hold point. excavation and lining up to the hold point for the outage,

installing the priestad it bulk head door and water pressure testing this door. this photo shoes the 6 foot diameter water piping out of the bypass tunnel limp is another one on the other side of the shaft. piping has been back filled with grew in the bypass tunnels to stabilize the points in the tunnels for water flow in the pipes. full connection made during the shut down water is flowing through the bottom of the shaft. >> this is showing the portal. once this was integrated during the outage was the main access point to complete the 2 bypass tunnels. with the mountain tunnel and used the conveyance tunnel it remove the construction water in pipe to the treatment plants

below the [inaudible]. this is looking down the 1,000 foot long add and viewing the large bulk head door before the first concrow pour this is the new acsepsz point for upcoming outage work approximate maintenance in the future. this new access add will allow you to utilize 100 day outage in future work. >> and this is some of the work that was done in this quarter. construction of a learning retaining wall in the roads slide 6 and treacherous area removing some of large boulders on a vertical wall. i will be happy to take questions now. >> commissioner maxwell. >> thank you. >> how does it snow >> feels like it was a big win y. it does. >> just from your expression you foal you did something. did everybody have that feeling

of success and dp amazing? >> yea. it is i big relief. this was the most critical outages we had to tie to 3 areas of the mountain tunnel and bring in large pipes inside that existing tunnel. it was a lot of work the contractor did a fantastic job. works 24/7 for 49 days. inspectors and project staff has kept everything in line. and was help to seat outcome. >> great. congratulations and tell them that you know we really appreciate all of the hard work and understand it. we know when they d. so. thank you. >> we are a step closer. >> yea. >> for this project. >> fantastic. commissioner [inaudible]. >> hello, great presentation. could you elaborate more access

issues and the mountain roads washed out with the heavy snowfall and et cetera . and can you just update us on where we are at on those emergency repair and their potential impact to the projects this are going on? >> yea, well, you know in january we had slides our access road and got those cleared up and stabilized. since then there has been an amount of storm damage slides i think over 14 major slides up country. and -- i believe they have you sign a declaration to get this work put air contract out to get that work cleared up. it is an impact and i continue is a potential impact now to the rafters who want to get down there for the rafting season we are working with the forest service and trying to get that opened up fast as we can.

>> thank you. i go ahead commissioner >> please. >> i was going to asking -- what do they. what are they going to do. the rocks are there the mountain is still there. so, what are they do they can't shore it up. do they cut it back more? >> well, a lot of landslide areas special some may have taken out a bottom portion of the roadway. so they will stabilize that roadway. you know with a fabric and rock and get this stabilized and remove the portion that is on the roadway. remove it, put it in trucks and take it out and utilize it in other accomplices >> how do they prevent. so it can happen again? >> if it rains mfrment >> it is a tough country out there. and yea with these roads and it is really the water that is coming down that is causing the

erosion and sometimes the colverts get clog exclude you have flow and it washes out the instability of the slopes. and you know in our road improve ams we are trying to do improvements to prevent this in the future. so. why i guess that was my question. can you give me an example of an improvement? >> yea this is steve rich general manager for water. i think in the emergency declaration we included a photograph of most significant slide up there. and that's a great example of where the resolution to that will require some stabilization because it it is steep you can't do a lot. we will be cutting in the hill to widen the road that way. we did this on the access road for cal vera. we had similar slide. and the solution had to be you gotta move the road over.

you can't -- don't have piles that long. but yea that is the permanent solution. >> okay, thank you. >> may be then i have a question for you. thank you very much for your presentation. and -- this can be something you will want to tackle or potential low this it is something we can look into for the future. it always strikes me when i look. first, congratulations, that was exciting to see member who hen closely involved in a project to present on the results. i can see the pride and excitement that you carry. but i want to move to the next another portion of this effort that you are having on the -- capitol improve am the ones under planning and design. and -- i have mention third degree on other capitol improvement projects we had. which is obviously, we are

experiencing advancing in different ways. and a let of our engineering and design is still not fuely incorporating some of these extremes like fundsamentally in the design press. i wrndz if there are things that have you to do to make sure that portion is revisited with design. now this we have time, and we have the resources. do we need to reimagine or rethink our design and planning process to make sure we can amount the computer events we are currently might not have incorporate in the our work >> well, in this presentation i think all of them but one were in the planning phase for the cost increases. and you know that's where you -- kinds of expect it. you got unknowns in the planning

phase portion. and the scope changes and escalation has come into play more. i don't think the route of line with it. in the planning phase. you want to start large exert narrow it down until you get to the foible engineer's estimate. i don't see flus in the system. it is just a lot i call it, you have known and unknown risk there are unknown risks in the planning phase. and they pop up in the design phase, too. >> right. i appreciate that response i'm wondering if we somehow need to think more strategic how to incorporate the impacts of climate change in design more intentionally. and i do understand upon the complexity and the uncertainty this is associated with a let of these future projections.

buff what we are experienced just this past year. right. let's take this what we have experienced the past year t is i great example of -- all the record this is we have broken in the past couple years. the fact that our system is not designed to handle some of these extremes. so -- you know -- as you know better than me. and we built the infrastructure they will sit and last for a long time hopeful low and provide services to people. so and it is important to be able to anticipate that is coming down the pipeline considering the climate events. and be able to build for the future rather than the past. i want to make sure, again, i know you are sort of you are involved in parts of this. i think i want to make sure this is very more intentional

incorporating the risks and those unanticipated or some of those uncertainty in our design process. just to make sure we spends our money on thing that wills left or work or -- can help us protect our population. >> yea. i think that it is a great conversation and should be looked at further. extreme design events. you know the only one thing have you to keep nienldz the more you design for the xroem design events the more your costs go up t. is i balancing act on how high you want to take it and spend money on it now versus. >> gradually as things. >> so it is a balancing act. of course. >> thank you. >> commissioner paulson. >> thank you for your presentation. i looked at before i got here. i was a bit late.

so, just ironically i should mention i read an article last night where it was a prosecute 50 man who invented lead gasoline and freon. 2 of the biggest pollutant in history of the earth if not the history of earth in the article was about planning for the future. you know the folks were geniuses when this stuff came together now all the may be 60 to 1 huh years later the down sides are coming through. that is an extreme example of pollution at the worse and short term planning versus long-term. i want to say that the discussion this is i'm hearing now that are coming from commissioners are important. when it come to climate change or changing of energy sources or whatever is going on in the puc, i trust in my years here on

board. you know with the questioning that it is public servant and as a commissioner i do that the staff at the puc is doing all the stuff we ask in terms of methodology and it is changing and diving through the different impacts might be having with the state wide system we have. i want to say i trust that what i will hear is based on this internal professionalism tht engineers and architects and everybody in the departments are doing. i just as a commissioner want to say that's what i know is happening in there. even though the conversation about purke, pushing and be the best we can be. which i believe woe are in terms of public agencies around the country and urban areas there. thank you for your presentation about the exciting things we are having to deal with in this capitol investment. the folks in the county of san

francisco are entrusting us with so, thank you. >> thank you. >> go ahead. please. why i'm sorry one more question. you remember the comstock the piping the huge pipes coming down. >> yea. pin stocks. and they have been there for how long? 90 years. >> how long? over 50 years? 100 years. what do we have to replace them now. that's what the testing and magnetic testing showing they have large cracks in the seams. of those pipes. and so they are going to they are looking at alternatives now it is more cost effective to replace the pipes than to continue to repair the pin stocks. that's had they will look out that will come up more in the future presentations. >> when you replace them when are you looking for am as far as

the life span? because you recognize how long these have been there. what are we looking at. so, well >> design life this is my opinion i'm not an expert. you would push for 80 or 100 years on a design life of the pipes. in with the technology and the welding today, they should easy low be able to achieve that. >> would they use the same material and do different thing in welding. because whatever they use works. >> well. you -- you knowledge i would assume they would use circular pipe and try to avoid as many welds exempt the connection pointses where they would be bolted up. e eliminating welds you are e eliminating weak pointses of the pipes. >> that's what people are thinking. that is the engineer whatting you. >> i have not i'm not involved

with this project and but i know they are studying 5 alternatives for the replacement on that. and come up with the most cost effective solution for that for a replacement. >> okay. cost effective and the most durable and because in the long run, yea. all right. thank you. thank you. public comment on this, please. member hos wish to comment remote low on item 4b, raise where you are hand to speak. do we have anyone present to provide comment on this item? >> good afternoon nicole, [inaudible] i want to thank mr. anderson for his presentation on my favorite projects the mountain tunnel project the conversation how we plan and how

they come b. you may recall the project to fix the issue of that single in the musn't ain't tunnel was a new tunnel that was estimate in the the planning process would be a billion dollars and boska was the supporter for an alternative that was repairs of the existing tunnel. i'm extreme low pleaseed see the continuing success of the shutdowns. this is actually what engagement looks like and when we try to do. great success so far so thank you. do we have callers with hands raised. >> there are 2 callers. >> thank you. i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> thank you. peter. tuolumne river trust. what -- to me in the report was

the powerhouse and generators transformer rehab. and only because the advantages 67 million clez to what the tuolumne river diverters are proposing to spend on the tuolumne voluntary agreement that is 64 million. and shared between the 3 main parties there with the irrigation district. and that covers 8 years. and again, this is in exchange for the puc and others not providing more water in the tuolumne. and water really is the limiting factor this surverify and success of the native fish. nice to see the environment get a bit more priority. thank you. thank you.

next speaker, please you have 2 minutes. >> what iment to state about this project is, the first contractor this was upon given this project, really did not do a good job when it came to the inspection of the tunnel. some years later, they found critic in mountain view which is close prongim proximity to the reservoir the second time this was the alternative project because -- really a lot of people in puc at is this time wanted go for a brand new tunnel which would cost a lot of money. so now, my -- the interested in

the technology and the engineering. but i'm more interested in how did y'all get the water? in the beginning? dp what is y'all responsibility to the native american tribes around this project? not once have y'all drawn the native american tribes to ask them had they feel about mountain tunnels. what do you feel about the hetch hetchy reservoir? what do you feel about the adverse impacts on the tuolumne river. not once. the arrogance is going to come to by the y'all in the butt. you have no sense of how to do a

need's assessment, not in engineering. not in stilling but in paying respect to the first people. >> your time is expired thank you for sharing your comments. there are no more callers in the queue y. public comment on 4b is closed. >> 4c a wastewater quarter low report including major projects update including biosolids. and carolyn chu will present. >> hi, commissioners i'm carolyn chu a senior project manager. steven is out sick today and gives his apologies had every intention of being here. i will fill in for him and present thanksgiving quarter low update in his place.

let's start off with a few construction highlights. the first project i want to talk about is the ocean side plant. [inaudible] equalization upgrade. which is completion in june of 23. construction activities are continuing during this reporting period, the team accepted delivery of a major equipment item. good news the project was placed by some issue around supply chain. we got the equipment on site. the second project is the your storm water improve am project. which is do you to be completed in i year from today. this quarter, in 8 inch domestic water line. junction structures and a majority of the storm water inlets were completed. tunnelling sewer and the sewer structures are complete. and the installation of the 36 inch

steel pipe for portable water for firefighting is on going. lastly, i want to talk about our southeast plant, power feed and primary switch gear upgrade that it is moving nicely as well. contractor continues to install the electric and mechanical and control systems. as well as concrete walk way in and around the building and initiated training for the switch gears and they are completed. >> um -- so these pie charts are familiar. so00 autopie charts show our 70 projects in the phase one of the sf ip now representing 4.4 billion dollars. last quarter we presented the adjusted numbers from the recent budget process. closed at 51%. this quarter we are showing closing at 52.6%.

so, the blue on look at the right pie chart the blue represents preconstruction. planning and design. and award and shows 7 projects which is unchanged from the left quarter. similarly, the grown, which are the lefrnl construction projects are also on going so there is no xhafrj in a report out from the last quarter. however, moving to the gray area for us represents the close out and the completed projects we moved a project one project the mission street brick other sewer rehab from close out to completion. that represents this change. here is a cost sum row, which is a duplication what is table 3 in the quarterly report. a role up of the s ip from phase

one and the other. the columns from as you are familiar from left to right are expenditures to date. the current, proved budget and current forecast cost and cost variance. i want to highlight a couple of the variances for you today. the treatment plant forecast. you do see an increase there of 33.7 million, that is aelectronicallyed 3 major projects one head works. which i will talk more when i report out to the major projects later in this presentation. the other project is what we called new maintenance build being at the southeast plant that got narcoticd and as we are starting that project up we this represents the updated construction costs. and lastly you heard me talk about the digester upgrades. you know it did experience some equipment delay due to supply chain this is represented here

in this cost variance. skwoo moving on, talking built flood resilience projects. you will see a 22 million dollars variance there. and as you know, those are a set of different projects. as they move forward in design progression we get more clarity about the cost estimates that go with those constructions. that represents that design progression and the more information we are getting to understand about the project and the cost. >> as a recap over all program total at the bottom. the current approved budget is 5 opinion 97 billion. and the current forecast is 49.1 million over budget. in is main low to the 3 projects i just talked about. um let's move on to the facility and infrastructure.

projects. so you notice this one has a decrease in the forecasted cost which is good. you will see on the program level the approved budget is 678 million dollars with the current forecast cost at being 648.6 million. a 29. 2 million dollars under when we thought was the approved budget. and some of this the big part of that contribution is because of the southeast bay. the crossing in our decision to take it off and rescope it and get a better understanding of this project. and reflects that new treasure island project you awarded in a meeting awhile ago. that design/blt build contract was awarded and anning increase to the ocean beach climate change project. it is going through the environmental process and you progress in the project you get

more updated construction costs. this is that is there. moving on to great mile stones. so this quarter we awarded 2 construction contracts. the large diameter sewer project and intertie which we call subprotect c x. we awarted construction contract forrin are sunset sewer improvement. in this quarter we completed 2 conceptual engineering report one laguna and howard street sewer project and an engineering report for the also related to the channel force main intertie what we call the west soma sewer improvement. i want to shout out to the picture here 2 projects did win

san francisco fifth collaborative partner award for 2022. so -- i want to shout out to the proteams the mission brick sewer rehab project. and also the team of the force main rehab embarcadero and jackson improvement project. kudos to the 2 project teams. moving on to the southeast area major projects. obviously the biosolid project near to my heart. this the budget for this project is in the schedule have not changed from the last quarter and still alined with the current 10 year capitol plan. some of you have been to the site construction of the 5 digester vessels is on going tell come out of the grounds with skirt walls and tank hoppersch we have started construction on the other

biosolid facilities the treatment building number 2 water facilities and the chemical feed in support of the digest and the project. next i wanted talk about the [inaudible] project. in does have a forecasted budget increase. i mentioned previously. by 10 handle from when we showed. it is now 689 million. the report shows i delay of 20 months of forecasted construction completion from 2024 to 2026. vicious for the cost in schedule can be attributed a combination the severe restrictions on plant shut downs. project complexity this project specific low retrofits existing infrastructure like our large

channel and then also supply chain. and as the project is progresses toward start of the commissioning the team started planning for the end of the project approximate they hand over to the wastewater enterprise. i think with wastewater on board they disguised that it is instrumental to have the operation of the new facility over a year like a critical wet weather season before demoing the existing building. that's also what is extended the project schedule. lastedly, i want to talk about soublth east community facility. it is already it the grand open and can scheduled to roach the final completion this month and imented say the staff and the with you yooe learning center and hung row kitchen cafe move instead building.

visit the cafe and give them business as well. with that said, sorry i am at the end of the presentation and i'm happy to answer questions if i can. >> thank you very much. commissioner maxwell. i like to say that it is good to see you again. it hen a language time. good to see you, i'm glad you are still on this project. [laughter] the southeast plant the new head work facility project, i'm looking at the huge pipe suspect this a bypass? >> on the slide next to the southeast community center? >> next to the last. the twhoon is in slide 8. that is the final peefts 84 inch pipeline. >> that will be there that is permanent. >> yes. >> yea. >> will be way up there like

that? okay. l was it in the grounds before? that i can't answer. obviously i will take down your question. you don't know. >> i can't i don't want to speak out of turn. i will bring the question back to the p.m. or steve. i can call. okay. we'll either through don will answer your question for you. thank you. sorry. >> excellent and any other comments. thank you that is we appreciate you stepping in and hopefully mr. robinson feels better. and but that was an excellent presentation and excite to see how things are progressing. >> thank you. >> can we have public comment on this item. >> member who is wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 4 press star 3 to speak. anyone present to provide

comment? >> mr. moderator are there hands raised? >> there are no callers in the queue. why thank you, public comment on item 4c is closed. >> excellent. go ahead. before i conclude my report i want to update the commission on a scheduling change we are going to have to make more detail. as you are aware we are in a process of updating our sewer and water rates. and we had previously schedule third degree to be heard before this commission as required under prop 218 for may ninth at that hearing. prop 218 has pacific requirements what needs to be included in a rate notice that guess out to all payers in the city and county. and we were alettered and confirmed that there was an

error in the rate document hearing document this went out. is going in necessitate that we move the hearing date from may ninth to may 23 shd meeting. prop 218 requires there be in the rate hearing notice there be a notice of place, time and date. unfortunately, we did not include the time. in the hearing notice for that went out to everybody. that document went out on friday march 24th. which -- some of you may have receive third degree 46 day in veterans of the commission meeting under prop 218 has to be 45 days in advance. we are in the process of prowsing another rate hearing notice. tell go out next friday april 7. will be 45 days in advance of

may 23rd hearing. we apologize and grateful to the member of public that alettered us to the error and look forward it present happening and have a rate discussion with you at the may 23rd hearing before it goes through the rest of the process. >> thank you. >> mr. herrera. errors are human condition we all make mistakes from time to time. can we colleague fist you don't have comments have public comment on this item >> member who is wish to make comment on 4d press star 3 to speak. do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are no callers. >> thank you. public comment on 4d is closed. >> excellent. so we look forward to that conversation in may 23rd.

can we have the next item. >> item 5 the bay area water conversation update. good afternoon, commissioners nicole boska ceo can i have the slides, please. >> i wanted take my time in front of you today to build on mr. richie's water supply presentation and give you updated numbers. this graphic is one this came out over the weekend. published by cal matters. i thought it was interesting given where we were with the governor's declaration to look where california has been in meading the governor's call in 15 prz reduction.

you notice there is one region that met the governor's call. right behind that is ours. i think the things i will talk about it more we have the lowest per capita water use. this speaks about how difficult is to start to achieve the higher levels of rationing as we look to the future. fortunate inform planning from that perspective. is this is a slide i shared with you many times. we are publishing our survey. with updated data for fiscal year -- 21/22. and so this shows now population through 21-22 and water use. and with an updated number that despite 33% population increase we reduced our water use. this is total use in the service area, 26% compared to the peek in 1986-87.

the draught years in #marks, a lot more of the light year in our last 10 years forcing that over all water use down. this is the slide that stood out and why i wanted bring it to your attention today. per capita, data a so the top line is growth per cap tamp focus on the bottom line chshgs is residential per capita. the dashed are the draught years and we are now for fiscal 21-twoop down to just over 60 gallons per capita per day in the service area down from the year before which was 65.8. continuing to redouse in residential water use and important thing to consider is we wonder how are we going to transition out of the draught and what does that money in the

future. my plat closing remark, boska goal is a supply high quality water for a fair price and customers they serve. the agencies and water customer are dependent your water system. and that water is provided to them under your obligations you have legal oshgations like the 184mgd supply insurance. contract obligations the level of service goals. at the same time the region investing in efficiency committed to conversation this issest boy that per capita data and the agencies are invest nothing alternative water supplies to the extent those issue available. we have been working with you in spchlt voluntary agreement for the tuolumne river as an alternative to the bay delta plan that both allow for the maintenance of that reliable

supply meeting the needs for the fisheries, that is an important thing. then of the day, we know water is too important to waste. as we look to your action at your next meeting april 11th, you know reskingdz the local emergency i have been working with mr. richie and you know continuing the wise use of water to call how we continue to do all in work. a few res that concludes my presentation. >> thank you so much. and commissioner paulson. >>. thank you for this report the graphics were helpful to look at everything from the 70ss on and the conversation responses to draught years and the policy. going back to the last your last items i could have a question on

one of them. request we have the slide? the voluntary agreement offers a potential can you elaborate on that? i knowledge your state resource agencies. and the effort to negotiate a voluntary green light for the tuolumne river that meets the objectives of the bay delta plan and minimizes impact of those agreements on your water supply reliability. and i look forward to the time had that come forward. in the public. and moves to the state board and they are able to evaluate it as an alternative. i know you are closely coordinate with them to that and look forward to that seeing that happen. this it is a risk we have known that is out there for several -- dkdzs now at least i guess.

and resolve thanksgiving risk in i way that meets your environmental obligations and water supply obligations is the best way forward and hope it can do that. >> commissioner stacy? recycling that guess on among the boska agencies there are projects that the puc is working with boska agencies on. and i'm interested in how much recycling boska may be doing and what is on the sort of -- plan. >> for the future. i also wondered whether recycling factor in the your graph. the use per capita use whether that was also reflecting recycling that is already on

going. >> i believe it does i'm looking at it. i -- general low it is just potable. so00 eye can get become toow that. i missed footnote. but -- the bosk agency and i sea many of them have been on the forefront of water recycling. think about south bay water in san jose, that is owns and operated by the city of san jose with the city of santa clara and part of our organizations. sunny vale and others this is a recycle facility this has i requirement any out door water use in an industrial nonresidential area is required be recycled and the new residential areas is required to

be recycled. aggressive water recycling program in the south became you move up the north on the peninsula side musn't ain't view has an aggressive water recycle program existing and in partnership with pamo alto and valley water. they are look to expand in the future. moving forward that is where the pardon inship in san mateo looks the wastewater facility and in [inaudible] city partner with you to electric at potable reuse. there is existing recycled water but really if we look to treat it and look to use if it where is the best place? i'm a proponent offeting this and see if we look at residential use 60 gallons peridate gross per capita is 80 that does not reflect not a lot of out door water use. if we look at recycle the water

and just do it for nonpotable there is in the a lot of options. recycled water produced in daly city. you are a partner in this faapproximate further examination in south city. we are looking at all wastewater facilities on that side and the east bay there the partnership with union sanitary district. is there more to be done? absolutely. but aggressive looking meeting the city got a federal funding grant to look at their recycled water capability and implement a project there as well. more to be done but more then and there we had in the past. >> thank you. i can't agree with you measure.

>> there is i way of protecting our watersheds and rivers and croaks in the future. i think we will have much more continued e readic weather. i really appreciate that you are focusing on that as the leader of boska and your averages are looking at it and already under taking projects. thank you. >> thank you. >> um -- i mean follow up to that comment and i wanted actually focus different. yes, i think your potable numbers reflect the out door water use being used as part of the recycle water that delivered some of the areas. that is a big plus. and i'm wondering if there needs to be an effort to -- i know you are concerned about the accuracy

of the efforts. but we actually need to mou work with the different entities to like more active low incorporate on site reuse for future development. i of course there is a huge potential -- i'm a big proponent of director reuse. at the same time i'm always concerned this we spend alegality of energy and resource. we are fight nothing 2 fronts oouz reduce e mission and we are trying it meet our future water needs if we are resyriaing all the water to the potable quality and send it to homes and they flush it down the toilets or wash their cars or water out door its is concern to me personal low this we are not helping to move the community forward. you are actually perpetuating

the -- pattern you see. so -- am i'm excited that san francisco is dog a lot of -- sort of a lead in country to push on site reuse. in as part of their policy. change that we made. and be even changed it left year to small are footprint to requiring for smaller -- size buildings as well. and the question is are there opportunity to do more than you are looking at development in the peninsula. and you know we see homes and communities and commercial buildings poppingum left and right in the commercial setting. those can be useful. so anyway. wanted to mention that i think i see those -- efforts most low on the upon demand management side they reduce demand and which is important and also -- it help us

to deal with the sort of -- both water and carbon footprint of some of the other enltsities we have. >> i appreciate that question. one thing that boska initiated so our long-term planning efforts refer water supply strategy was left complete in the 2015 and guiding our actions since then. we are in the process now of selecting a consultant to initiate the strategy to 2045, the update. part of that update, i really do see the shift from what was happening before, which was a let of thought about larger freshth projects and had a different characteristic it change said. to a -- more focalized comfortable reduce reuse

combination of things. also incorporate and enengage with storm water agencies. and so -- i expect this conversation to happen. as part of the strategy of 2045. and it would not be unusual for policyings that would come out of this effort this . is simultaneous the agency looked us for and we have been successful in building codes. landscape and other things before the governoror did to change what was going on in service area. i see that as part of the direction coming around that but we have to exam tin in a broader perspective before we head down that road. that's the framework. >> i appreciate that. if there are no more questions can we have public comment. >> members who wish to make 2

minutes of remote comment on item 5 press star 3 to speak. do we have members present to provide comment on the item? >> do we have callers understand whats raise said. caller you have 2 minutes. on the item the voluntary agreement came up. boska not done own analysis on the rolfe taer agreement. they just repeat when they hear at the puc. the true prooes piece from the irrigation district. the in 2020, the -- fishery service issued a peer review of the tuolumne river fish models am which the voluntary agreement was based and it was scathing.

and in per do you to that, the 8 agencies involved in negotiations pulled out. and now there is a new tuolumne river agreement. how did the problem identify in the this peer review addressed in ask this of your staff. the just because the puc supported the agreement before does not mean you should support this. this is a new agreement it needs to come to you. you need to know whether it has addressed the problems identify in the the peer review. there was a listening session yesterday about 5 hours and focused on the bay delta plan and the voluntary agreement. i say there were for you or 50 people from the public who spoke and i believe a single person supporting the voluntary agreements they were opposed. sppth the bay delta plan. i think you need to watch that

i'm sure it would be posted i will try to remember to upon sends you a link. a few years ago boska had a presentation. we submitted 15 pages of response and when we heard back the issueers over our head we will spendz sends it to the puc and never heard anything about that again. please, have your staff respond to the peer review. thank you. >> >> thank you for sharing your comments. there are no more callers in the queue. why public comment on 5 is closed. >> thank you. if there are no more discussions we can move to the next item y. item 6 consent calendar y. colleagues any comments or questions about the item in consent. >> upon okay. so i actually did have a

question. on the sorry giving one second. find my notes here. one is on item 6b. i know we are reawarding this to a new contractor. do we have any anybody here involved in that. fantastic. thank you. >> um -- i was a bit confused. there are like 7 -- people who mitted proposals. right? and then we awarded this to the third person. sort of -- proposer. and then now we are going to the sixth one. i wonder happened? are there i noticed the

difference with the grading process. assessment process went heavily on the technical proposal that was written. i wonder are there pieces missing. should we be concern body this. provide me context. thank you. >> good upon afternoon, president ajami and vice president maxwell, commissioners, general manager. i'm mario valdez the contract manager. so, there was a lot of parts to your question. i will see if i can -- touch to the point. so -- basically, this series of contracts award to the highest ranked. of the 5, one elected to not enter in know agreement. so -- the puc then moves to award to the next highest ranked proposer. that happens to be

this firm town end management incorporated. >> okay. men then my question was not clear. you said the top 5. correct? so we picked the third they decided not to move forward. correct. >> so there is a fourth and 5th one what about those. >> so they are awarded. so all 5 have been awarded with the exception. except for one. >> chose not to enter. >> thank you. >> we are fill nothing that slot with the next highest. >> i missed this part. i thought it was like out of 5 it was confuse to me. i thought out of 5 picked the third and move to the sickth. >> no. fantastic. thank you. >> that was it. okay. and then -- that was the only.

actually hi another question on 6c, which -- was increase in the contract amount i -- couldn't fully understand um -- how i do understand we did not empty this reservoir before the full inspection and now that has been done and now we have to do more. i wondered are there other things to do for the next time ahead of time to make sure this does in the help? >> hi. i'm ryan the project manager for this project. i manage cbd's main replace am and reservoir and pump registration program. one of the challenges with the reservoir system that it is harder to take them the surface

to dot full inspection. want to maintain the reliable water supply. in the future when we can do is -- in terms of planning the projects longer term in the future with the master planning. when the reservoir is out of service for maintenance, we can and drain it and do cleaning of the reservoir that is when we do a full inspection and plan. so in this case, we did not have this opportunity. we did to an inspection but limited the reservoir was in service until we to being a vote. we took a vote but due to lighting you know it was hard we did not have access to the substructure we could see it but could not touch it. >> but that is when we have done in other reservoirs and others do they take the reservoir out of service and do a full inspection and plan for it that

way. >> okay. how often do we do that? that was a good point i'm worning like is this manage we do regularly so then next time we have maintenance we have an opportunity -- how we aline those? >> i'm not sure the last time will the reservoir was taken out of service but they are taken out of service periodically for cleaning and maintenance. but i'm not sure when the left time this one was. >> okay we need to create a process for this. and i think may be the next question is are there any new technologies. there is for everything. so i wander are there new technologies that are better then and there sending a bet. i understand touch is important because you may not get the figure unless you you may to the see it in the visual this you

have but are there other technologies we can approximate terrible [inaudible] use. i'm not sure for wood steel you with use x-ray. wood it might be more difficult where it it is you know physical test. >> okay. >> but you can look. why for sure. >> that will be important we it seems we are replace when we have with a similar product you know now one. so it is good to have manage to make sure we keep an eye on this. >> for sure. thank you. one last thing, you know prison that there was a full inspection done and parts identified as this needs to be replaced. i wonder on the partings we are not replace telling be good to

have some sense of what do we do to keep an eye on them and be able to maintain or replace them fast upper so it does not spread. not surety right word. >> for this reservoir, we did look at the entire reservoir and so it is the officer substructure that is being replaced. the justify and the glut and beams and the plywood this will support the officer membraneful other things you would look at is like the construction justifies sometimes stla to be grewed grinded down and recocked. those are things before we put the reservoir back in service we will check. at this time won't don't see other significant repairs. >> okay. thank you. commissioner maxwell. thank you those other questions i had as well. ir have been dmoun there on a

boat. i think tell be great for the other commissioners to go. it is dark. it is exciting but it is very dark in there. and you are around this boat t. is manage to see. >> right >> are most of our reservoirs made the same way? >> no there is this it is reenforced condition crow there are steel reservoirs. the [inaudible] ask in an older one yoochl how many do we have. approximately. 18 >> between 15 and 20. all right so this is so then and some of them are wood. so this means that some will be

public low having the ceremony issue sns this were built around the same time? >> yea. manage that we can electric at in terms of master planning. there are different reasons yet wold can decay but something we work with planning to plan ahead for these and add it in the both it is inspection and improvement in the calf capital plan if they are wood, under ground, dark. yoom this it is -- above ground >> but the water is -- yea >> okay. may be there would be under the same conscience to some extent? >> right. one of the things dwoel is adding back passive vent ligz. as a result of after 911, some of the reservoir vents were sealed because of concerns over water quality. and looking at restoring those

and working with water quality it maintain the quality, you need proper ventilation for the wold to last longer. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioners. >> thank you president ajami. i wanted to mention that hi was with the fire department i was on the dive team and we would assist puc or water departments with inspections. we would incorporate the inspection in a rescue scenario and that way we utilize our dive team and simulate a rescue and also help in checking out the different residence virus. that is manage that may be we can still use in the future cost effective and it is benefits both of our departments.

>> excellent. great. thank you. >> commissioner paulon. >> at the probably xenl thanksgiving conversation more then and there we should. i than remind the commissioners and everybody there was a wonderful vo that was shown i would like to say less than 2 years ago by you that showed a history of if any up the infrastructure in town and heavy low reliable on showing the different reservoirs we had. and will i asked for a copy i'm sure it is on scomploin could have found it. at this time i wanted one it was put together and showed folks on the boats. and now i'm making a request for the third time i wanted go out on a bet to see what it was b. locked exciting. a commissioner you see the infrastructure. i'm making that request for a third time and asking all the questions get a copy of that sum

row of capitol projects. i forget. and commissioner maxwell you and i commented and seen that whatever it was a year and a half ago. under the concern gm of rain or rairn or not that could sum rise when we are talking about i'm piling on the conversation. we can arrange for a tour in the active reservoir if yous would like to see the reservoir who i it is out of service we can arrange that, too. >> thank you that was a productive conversation. i like to mou you know hear back if you fiemdz out about new technologist. yes y. and looking at a collaboration with the fire department if this is a

possibility. upon thank you for answering the questions >> can we i think we need public comment. did we need to one public comment? okay. member his wish if make 2 minutes of remote public comment on item 6, consent press star 3 to speak. do we have anyone to provide comment on this item? mr. moderator do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are no callers wishing to be recognized. >> public comment on item 6 is closed. why upon excellent. if there are no more comments or questions. i we can have a motion. >> move to approve. >> president agentlemeny. >> aye >> vice president maxwell >> aye >> commissioner paulson. >> aye joovm commissioner rivera. >> aye >> commissioner stacy. >> aye. >> excellent item passes could you call the next item.

next is item 7. authorize issuance of 865 million of 23ab bonds and issuance of the 23 series c bonds del gift to the gm authorization to apointer write and enter in one or more bond contracts with under write irs if the city's pool and procurement process and with city's policies subject to limited on compensation setforth in the resolution. authorize the gm to sell the 23 wastewater bond in one more series on negotiated basis as a gm determines in the best financial interests of the san francisco public utility's commission. jury room good afternoon, commissioners. nick, capital finance director. pleasure to be back.

and to present to you the first of a number of financings bring to you through the fall will provide financing for all 3 of enterprises. and it it is convenient that the -- that carolyn provided a summary of the wastewater project the first transaction is for the wastewater enterprise. our package was extensive with legal documents and numbers. the agenda item was a mouthful now. for the secretary. but when we are doing today is simple. we are -- all the projects this you saw that are under way, are progressing because we are

borrowing through commercial paper. and we reached the end of capacity for commercial paper can take out that commercial paper upon and finance it long-term. that is simple low what this is about. so this will finance 775 million dollars of projects and at the same time, while we have the lawyers drafting documents. we are taking advantage of the opportunity to do two potential refinancings based on interest rates at the time of the bond sale this project this financing -- unfortunately the -- [laughter] the graphics are covered there. but is part of the capitol financing plan presented to you in september. and -- as i mentioned, is the first of several if anieses

including borrowing, just to let you know on our screens we don't have the transcription we can see it. jop very good. thank you. >> as carolyn described there is an extensive capitol program under way for wastewater. one thing we are trying to do in capitol finance and the finance department is mitigate the impact of you will that capital spending on rate payors. when we are doing today has been built in the plan you developed and what we are hope to do is reduce the interest rates as much as possible. so that the impajt of the borrowing is less than what you anticipated. as you know, we got 2 billion dollars of bonts outstanding. we have taken advantage.

federal whiffia and state loans and a commercial paper program. that provides interim short rate financing. one of our priorities is maintaining the strong ratings of the enterprise. we senior management made presentations to investor service and s & p global ratings and affirmed the ratings based on this additional borrowing including the extra borrowing we will bring back to you in april. ratings have been affirmed and the outlets are stable. as mentioned, one of the avenues to reduce the interest rates take advantage of the low interest rates on federal program and srf program. the state resolving fund program

and will bringing joint low with the guarantees and loan's team an additional program attic loan in april. >> so this financing when are we doing? we have three series of bonds a, b and c. series a and b are simply the new borrowing for the sewer program. and the reason for splitting them with a and b is this a is ss ip and b is nonss ip and the advantage of doing that is we can label the a's green bond. the c bonds are for a refinancing of 2018c manualed torrey put bonds. and it sounds complicate today is simple. in 2018, we issued 25 year bonds

but we had a hor interest rate of 2.125% for 5 years. and provided that by october of this year, we either refinanced or remarket those bonds. when we are doing is refinancing the bonds taking advantage of the town to do it early so we do a single set of documents instead. having to come back with new offering documents in the fall. so that is the simple explanation of the put bonds. we have 2 under writing syndicates helping us with the bonds leading this syndicate for series a and b. goldman sacs the syndicate for

series c we have comanagers including snougzal and retail firms. and they were selected through an rfp process issued to the controller's pool of firms this shows the sources and uses of funds. again, simply the issuance together with the premium will fund the new money as well as those 2 refinancings. as well as capitalize interests through october 2025. and that's a way of managing the impact on rates short term. but once again, this new borrowing is part of of the financing plan you have already seen. and that plan assumed the new borrowing will be 5% you will

see in a moment when we hope we will do. here is that good faith estimate that has been furnished by our municipal advisors. we were advised bier mont ghoul and associates and backsrum mc carly berry. our joint ma's and they provided the good faith mate and this was prepared early in march. in order it meet -- give everyone time to review package the numbers were rerun yesterday and very close. not with standing the volatility this has been happening in the market as a result of silicon valley bank and fed actions. so let me touch on and rates i'm

sure that is front of mind. clearly, interest rates have been rising. due to the fed's actions. and -- i think -- everyone on the commission can appreciate that 2 year borrowing normally carries a higher rate than 1 year and so forth. much like a 30 year mortgage typically a higher rate than 15 or 7 year mortgages. and normally there is a very rounded slope. a year ago with the blue line on the graph you see there was a bit of a slope. where the shortest rates were lowerch and then they got higher over time. but it was in the. the top line there, that is very strange squigel what rates

looked like in the municipal market today it issage inverted yield curb reflects the fact the fed is purke short term rates up and investors expect rates to fall in the future. and -- so -- there was unsettled mess in the marketplace but -- presentses an opportunity right there. very quickly i will advance i'm near low done here. what this gives us an opportunity to do it is i colorful chart with, lot going on. but simply, the blue embarrass you see there are the annual net dent service of the dent we currently have. the yellow and red reflect the srf borrowing. and each time we borrow we layer on additional debt. the exciting part the green part

of the chart reflects the loans we enter into. that is unusual they allow you to look in the rate when you borrow the funds not necessary low when you with draw the funds. we enter the loans several years ago locked in a rate of 145 and now have pushd that out so this our longest borrowing is the low rate and that is allowing us to come in with the dark blue which is our current we are able to do it shorter and take advantage of low rates. which happen to issue at that trough you saw on that graph. so, of course, you will approve hopefully approve the transaction today. we would then mail a pos and market a week later. and tell

depend on rates at that time. what our rate. lastly, we will issue green bonds, the documents have you before you are the disclosure pos. the endenture the document that governs all of the transaction. the bond purchase agreement, which is the document william the upon under writers and the esescrow agreements govern how funds are held until refunding occurs. >> previously received discussion from the city attorney's office. i will not repeat that. and so that brings us to the actions. to approve the 3 series of bonds. the refundings will not be in the money but we ask for the authorize based on having the

flexibility to take advantage of the interest rates are there. with this i will conclude my remarks. >> thank you. >> clothes, any questions if not. commissioner maxwell. >> i feel well diagonal i understood what you were talking about you med it very simple and easy to understand. when you mentioned this the -- have senior group of financers from the stele this go out and give bond presentations. we have a group of bond under writers who will what they do is they will next week, when we price the bonds will solicit interest in the market and determine had the interest rate is. and then they buy all the bobs. whether have an investor or not and take the risk for this. >> i thought you said there was

a presentation member gave >> yes, our senior leadership from the puc made what were the 3 most important things they valid said to machine to get them interested. so it is a detailed discussion about our capitol plans, finances. and turn the rating agencies about evaluate and come to a credit decision. how we pay it back? and our ability to pay it back? thank you. >> commissioner paulson. >> yes, thank you for this

presentation sthchl is an amtour economicist this is the first time i ever have been scared of bonds. and so -- but when you talk about divertity and a type of a financial action the diversity you have that makes me feel safe the big boys and girls get to be -- to be casual who you have on board. that makes me comfortable the fact you presented with this lay in there, even for amtours like me was very helpful. and in terms of able to approve this request. and duty. thank you. >> thank you for your presentation i have a few questions.

you know it it is interesting i never thought about this but at this point i think you are you know how we have to raise that limit every few years in the federal gentleman to be borrow more this is when we are doing here, right? what you already committed to. question number one is i know this came up in the presentation regardings the budget. can you remind me how this changes our debt ratio and are we like what there are we going to end after almost doubling our borrowing? >> clear, our debt levels are growing. and it hen a topic we discuss with the rating agencies. and how we have managing that

over time but all of this new debt is part of the plan. that you seen. >> of course. to the extent this we are able to deliver these financings below the assumed 5%. over time we can bring that down. although i continuing it is also fair to say we don't know what the future brings for rates as well. >> sure. >> i wanted pick on something you mentioned which since you have you here i will read it to you. quick low passed boy grown bobbleds i want to emphasize this san francisco based on the work i did like 5-10 years ago the first water u tirlities to pass have a green bond. certified passed.

so -- i want if you don't minds i like for to you elaborate on this and like to see how do we meet the requirements of that? where do we stands on this? would that help us to raise more money? do we need to rethink our design to make sure. there are specific design requirements when you go to green bonds. so. >> i appreciate that question i'm speaking that a seminar tomorrow about label bonds and green bonds. good fortune in my prior career to -- be part of the 2015 bonds when the puc was one of the of first issuers to issue green bonds before most issuers anyhow what green bonds issue.

i think as we speak to people in the marketplace they recognize the puc's leadership in green bonds. and i think we are continuing this commitment. in fact, we had very indepth conversations with our under writing team about how we leverage those green labels. for esg. investors and so one of the things we will >> we are expecting to do is provide a priority for esg investors now we have a priority for individual investors retail y. to make sure everybody know what esg is. spell it out. >> esg is the marketplace has over time recognized that there has not been enough attention to

environmental, social and governors factors in bonds. and really the corporate finance market the scc have been far ahead of the municipal market in this regard. but there are increaseingly investment fundses that want to have esg investments. and so we would give -- them a priority and in that marketing -- >> and -- just to -- make sure -- yea. >> i was going to take it to the next and why is that? the hope is that in our marketplace as more and more buyers of esg bond and green bobbeds -- are chasing those

bonds we will see more of an interest rates difference with thes bonds. we can't say consistently across the board there is that difference today. we then and there anecdotal situations over time. we know in the past puc has been able to attract buyers for the green bonds that had not bought other bonds previously. but as interest rates rise, we upon don't wish for this. as they rise, the marketplace will be able to make differences with different type of bonds base on the rating or whether they are labeled or not >>. i think that emphasizes the fact make you can correct me, we emphasize the importance of what were is projects we invest in. because that is how we qualify for those kinds of can be tagged

for those bonds to make sure they are green and or can be fit the environmental, social and governors values that are out there. the comment i med earlier, are we incorporated the thinking in our design. so -- thank you i appreciate that. this was useful and helpful. and please do keep us posted how what percentage of the these go as part of green bonds. i also say, if you don't mind, we would love to see a set of your slides you are giving tomorrow on green bond its is an educational am pos for the commission and if your talk is recorded we love to have the recording and appreciate you being out well and representing us in the fund.

why commissioner paulson >> [inaudible] i wanted say a couple things. where are you speaking tomorrow? you said a seminar a private group? i would be interested in your collaborations on that also. i was going to add-on to that. and the other piece was is that you know interest rates play an important part now that is why my previous comments the way you layered it and put it together in a public way was when med me feel comfortable about the through the press how we look at dent and finance the good things we do in town and in a previous lifetime i sat on the federal reserve board as an advior and i felt the dual mandate a single mandate that all everybody cared about was the inflation. did not give a damn what the

stimulation could or could not be or stopping of the stimulation in terms of the job market and business and whatever else. i still neil way. as a commissioner here there are a lot of people that are out of work because of uncertainty and the ain't to finance projects. ful half of downtown is empty now nobody knows wham the full -- forecast is going to be for -- financing. and we are here making sure we are being good stewards of financing and the way we finance when we do. and i'm comfortable. i'm also often worried about the dual mandate i sometimes don't feel. un. am and inflation that there is too much emphasis on how much money can we make and keep it down opposed stimulating the

economy. so. that's my 2 cents thank you. >> thank you. thank you again. commissioner stacy. >> oops i want to make sure i understand when we sell green bonds, we identified which projects that bond money will be used for because they are environmentally sounds, zero net e missions projects? and then weave spend that segregate this green bond money for those projects is this right? >> so, may be 19 different way. the climate bondings initiative credits a framework under which they have evaluate the projects and then we -- we do a further verification through sustain

littics. and we presented this information again to them in january. to the climate bond initiative and received the certificates in january. in anticipation of this bond trans action. >> those other certificates you see in the presentation. >> i guess the answer s yes. >> yes. >> thank you. but not we don't decide. about which projects than i have to meet requirements >> that's i understand they meet criteria it is not sort of it is not a macro look it it is a project by project look? at what qualified be a green bond is this right? >> yes. the puc presented the ss ip to them and they gave a certification. we go back to them each time we

borrow. >> thank you. >> commissioner maxwell. >> i opened the panning dora box >> this is on you mentioned about the environment that we near now with the bank and closures. and so how is this? do we need to be concerned? does it seem to be in the bond market but you mentioned it did influence. what extent does this help? >> so. what happen in the silicon valley bank was an impact on people who invested in bonds and the value of those bonds as interest rates rise. the concern this we have been monitoring is whether banks who have been buyers of municipal

bonds will put selling pressure oft market if they liquidate they could increase rates. the rates have thus far helped steady the month where we are close to where we were in the beginning. >> do you knowledge the federal government has anything to do with that? >> absolutely. yes. >> stabilization. >> thank you. thank you. appreciate it. can we have public comment on this item? members who wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 7 press star 3. do we have anyone present to provide comment? do we have callers with hands raised? there is one caller. you are 2 minutes.

>> i would like to bring to your attention the infrastructure bill. how the u.s. is embracing germany with solar panels. and solar projects. that go on clean energy. and we have millions and millions of acres of land we can have solar farms and i never heard y'all peek about it. with the talk about how00 auto[inaudible] and you know the investment -- what have you done to tap in the infrastructure bill and clean energy and the bonds?

[inaudible] [no audio] mr. decosta are you done in >> thank you. do we have other callers? there are no more callers in the queue. why public comment is closed. >> thank you. colleagues if there are no questions can i have a motion and second. move to approve. >> seconded. >> thank you, can we have a roll call. >> president ajami. >> aye >> vice president maxwell. >> aye >> commissioner paulson. >> aye >> commissioner stays's.

>> item passes thank you again. can we read the next item. >> next is item 8. approve amendment 1 to agreement cs1242g and authorize the manager to execute the amendment to increase the contract by 28, 350 and increase the contract duration by 3 years not to exceed amount of 34, 350 and for a total duration of 4 years. >> may i have the slides. go afternoon issue general manager herrera i'm lisa kim analyst in commune benefits. we are here to seek approval for

an amendment to extend in the capacity to cs24g i grant approved last may for san francisco unified school district. this grant enables us to engage interns and, wear ness and opportunity in the utility sector for school students prioritizing studentses from environmental justice communities. here you see 2 students we hosted left year at college hill learning garden in bernal height one of 3 garden cites the puc has in the city. they supported the garden manager with field trips helped maintain green infrastructure and signageament the site. they learned important conceptings related environmental stewardship such as the garden use of solar pans and compost toilets.

in addition to the 6 weeks of working students attend work readiness training. and designed a project in which they present at the end of their experience. with the grant set it xoir in john of thissier we ask to amend it to extend the do you recallation by 3 years and add funding by 28, 350 dollars. the amendment includes puc mem randledum of noting a document that out lines each party's role and responsibilities of the program. we are ascii requesting to extend boy 3 years to lessen the burden of creating a new amendment every year and the district mou is valid for 3 years the amount was determined the cost to hest 3 interns for

the next throw summers. >> by partnering with usd and in the learning program we are able to criminality to multiple components of the strategic plan by one, raising awareness with the utility sect among students positioning puc as an employer of choice making career paths available to the community and 2, developing talented to passport our vision for a high performance organization and becoming utility of the future. we would like to highlight that this program falls with puc's community benefit policy and racial justice resolution. which expresses the agency's commitment to building a skilled and diverse workforce and addressing the historic and current exclusion of black, indigenous and people of color from the utility workforce. a apartment from our own utility purpose we know a program like

this is impactful for young people. and we would like to share testimonials from student who is participated in the program. not necessary low at the puc but from the program at large. and they share that many learned about themselves, future planning, about the in's and outs of the strep. and it was a valuable importance and the sake of time i will read the first quote from shafer 11 class of 23. reads, i learned so much about the field can when goes on behind the scenes it was grit to get experience before i sdoid on a college and major. and lastly a quote from a past intern jerry who we hosted. you see her here building a habitat a thriving ecosystem. it is difficult to chose my

favorite memory from my experience i loved every per of temperature i want to highlight when we got to harvest alpine strawberries and lemons at the learnting garden she is now studying environmental science at her university. and with that i'd like to open up for question and thank you for your time. >> thank you. commissioner maxwell. >> says that -- the money will allow us to host more students how many more >> 3 students for the next 3 summers. >> so could be a total of 9. why a total of 9 >> and normally it is a total of? >> general low i think the last year we hosted 2. >> and year's past has been similar numbers. why great. thank you. >> thank you. >> excellent, commissioner stacy? >> i want to say to thumb's up

sounds like a great program wonderful to expand it beyond high school into city college, sf state and other schools. i know you are trying to recruit people it seems like a terrific entry and learning experience. thank you. >> appreciate that. thank you for your support. why excellent. commissioner paulon? >> i wanted say thank you. it was thorough and it irrelevant highlight fist the reason for giving i guarantee like this and having this part of the program and out reach that the commission does. i live in the far from there i have driven by but never known what it was this was informative thank you. why thank you, come visit. >> thank you. i actually have a few questions. great program of the exciting.

and do you you mentioned how many do we know how many applications are we getting for these positions and how competitive it is. how spread -- the news has been preding among the students? >> unfortunately i don't have this information since this is a program managed by sfusd i can ask and follow up. why it would be good it know how competitive it is and how many students take advantage and another thing is -- there are so men different will elements associated with our business. and not to add more work to everybody's load. i know it is not easy. requires a lot of time and mentorship to bring students in.

i want to make sure we attract people to different parts of our industry. our industry preponder has a lot of differents things. include being kids interested in computer science and finance. there are differents facets. i wonder if should do think more about men not high school but college students that might be interested. and involved in the other pers of the business. you dent need to it is a suggestion. and but thank you for all the work and it is xoiting to see one of these in our schedule. >> you know. it is a bright spot for sour in our day. >> commissioner ajami this is one facet of our program.

we have interns for colleges a number of disciplines we recruit this is one. i just to follow up, it is something we take seriously and appreciate that. i wanted to give you all the confidence this is something we look at in other area this is is one grant with one type. gi recognize that. we had conversations about the other internship i don't want to say they are not helping i'm saying you know i like for the kids it see a broad range of things that happen here and excite them about the what lies ahead. >> so. >> may be that is an opportunity for us to have an idea of all the intern projects zee going on. and all of the fields they cover. and what schools we recruit that would be informational and also

we can know may be where we need to go if we are not going. as we need more people this will be a great opportunity to get the highest best institutions in the country and the world are around the corner. interesting. absolutely. >> thank you. are you trying to say something. >> if not we can go to public comment. member who is wish to comment on item 8 press star 3. there are 3 callers in the queue. i opensure line you have 2 minutes. thank you. hi i'm gloria berry i serve on

the sudden fran reparation committee. i'm also the lead of the reparation education subcommittee. i think this is a good program. if you don't know already, 2 supervisor walton, preston and ronen introduced appropriation for department of reparation. and i will hope that the puc will partner in get on board and may be a program like this could be another form of reparations. due to being on the san francisco as long as i have, 53 years knows we had more program in high school where the youth can get a trade a blue collar job and a living wage >> we can expand this because so much has been cut from the budget where it it is abc, 123,

if we focus on college only. i heard some members mention this is dangerous. that increases gentification of the community. that could be another avenue to consider had getting guarantees i furthermore of reper seeing hrm to the community especially since so men of the accomplices are in discondition tent the communities this has been marmed the mosts currently. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. 2 minutes. the united in addition come up with a report on water. and we need to focus on the

need's assessment on how much water this we take from the hetch hetchy. spent in a useful manner. it is high time that weave have young people and from the school and the colleges to monitor those companies who use millions and millions and millions of gallons of water daily. as a coolant. and goes to waste. and we are to have a curricular in the schools about water. tied to california looks at each

drop of water. the state of california. as opposed other states all overnight nation. you don't know that. big corporations just go and tap in the springs and make a lot of money. this is young people [inaudible] about water and who is belongs to and how precious it is. because some of you commissioners, to, are in the aware it does not come out when you ask a question. asking mundane dwhes go nowhere. have to get holistic questions that [inaudible]. thank you for sharing your comments. time is expired.

next speaker, please. two minutes. >> thank you. peter tuolumne river trust. the official california department of fish and wildlife salmon counts are in on the tuolumne this last season there were 375 adults 91 jacks which are younger 2 year fish. 466. the federal, state salmon goal is 38,000. >> mr., i don't money to interrupt you this is item 8 not general public comment. >> my apologies. >> that's okay >> thank you. >> madam secretary there are no more callers in the queue. public comment on item 8 is closed >> thank you. and just want to reemphasize the idea not to redirect the machine

tow colleges the idea is to cover a broad base of talents and individuals. that can learn about utility. with this can we have a motion and second for this item? second y. roll call >> president ajami. >> aye >> vice president maxwell. why aye >> commissioner paulson y. aye >> commissioner stacy. >> aye y. item passes, thank you. can we have the next item. >> item 9 recommend the board of supervisors adopt a special ordinance that will allow the puc commission to enter in a cooperative agreements with the california d. transportation to perform engineering, design review, constructability and other techical for lower al men and he folsom your storm water improve am projects. >> good afternoon president

ajami and commissioners. susan wong. i'm here to present the agenda item on the special ordinance and i would like to start with background information. both al meny and folsom in design phase with if sillities within cal-trans jurisdiction. and that require cal-trans staff to have engineering and technical review for the project elements in their jurisdiction. for them to perform this reviews we will have to establish cooperative agreements with cal-trans per state law. however, as state agency the terms of agreements do not include administrate and i have environmental code chapters of the municipal such as waste

reduction. contract and modification process that would require for this type of engineering service agreement and only the board of supervisor can wave this requirements. today we would like to ask the commission to allow us to go to the board of supervisor adopting the special ordinance to extend the cooperative agreements with cal-trans for lower almen competence folsom projects from the initiative and environment at code environment this is does in the approve the project themselves and only put in accomplice a process for us to continue our coordination with cal trans it complete the design. with that i'm happy to take questions you might have. >> thank you. questions, colleagues in commissioner maxwell y. no. i have a question. so -- why can't they meet the

requirements that we have in place? of like for example the reduction all the items in the list. if they function in the requirement >> so, cal-trans have their form of agreement. and they don't change their agreement bases. and they are still need to follow certain regulations. yea. >> they are not require happened to if than i are function nothing this environment not required meet those more strict requirements we have? >> yea. state agency they don't change their form of agreement. based on local requirements is my understanding. >> okay. >> commissioner paulson.

>> i asked this prior to the meeting to be on record. is there anything in the cal-trans requirements opposed the san francisco code that in your opinion or your knowledge we can any -- there is contractors involved weaken any labor standards in terms of training and skills and licensing or anything? is there anything would be diminished by coming off the code for in part of the contracts? >> bases on my understanding, this is there is not negative consequences the agreement only allow the cal-trans staff to perform reviews for the elements in their jurisdiction. i understands that, i want to know anything specific had is excluded you know of that would

was not the purpose of necessary low what you are trying to do here would diminish labor standards somebody else will speak >> ron flynn deputy manager. any requirements for a construction project our requirement or the state would require compliance with the state wages. which are code specific low incorporates the state regime. their regime is slightly different over what they would include or exclude. this would they -- they valid to follow our rules. we would put out 8 contract so that contract itself would be covering by our rules not enter in the contract with cal-trans we enter if ourselves. it is our rules governor that portion inform upon event.

>> i got it >> okay. thank you. with the actual contract that is helpful. thank you. >> any other questions. thank you. can we are public comment on this item. >> mechanics who wish it make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 9 press star 3 to speak. do we have callers with hands raised? >> there is one caller in the queue. i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> so, the sppuc has been working with cal-trans for a long, long time and if anyone of

you commissioners say sent to the farmer's market and that area, after heavy rains the idea would turn in to a river. so up in so the road would be closed. for weeks. recently in the left 3-4 years. cal-trans and puc done a wonderful job. we near charge of the drain. sewer pipes. and of course the wages are necessary. must have an understanding -- that the puc failed the folsom

area is -- again and again and again causing millions of dollars of damage. because of floods. you commissioners need an orientation. next for your comment. there are no more callers in the kwu y. thank you public comment on item 9 is closed. >> excellentful if there are no comments or questions can i have a motion and second on the item? >> move to recommend the board of supervisors adopt the ordinance yoochl second. >> can we have a roll call >> president ajami. >> aye. >> vice president maxwell >> aye >> commissioner paulon. >> aye y. commissioner stacy.

>> aye. >> item passes thank you. now go to board of supervisors. thank you. can we have the next item >> next is 10 a communication item for information only. >> thank you and the item after that. next item. item 11 general public comment. member when is wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on matters within the commission's jurisdiction and not on today's agenda press star 3 to speak. do we have members present to provide general public comment? >> do we have callers? there are 2 callers in the queue. i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> okay i'm back.

peter tuolumne river trust. my apologies for earlier saying there were 466 salmon returning to the tuolumne this season and that salmon goal is 38,000. so -- this may explain why staff is hesitant to give reports on the state of environment by water supply updates. the much of what is in the tuolumne river agreement was first discussed and considered become in 1995. with the first settlement agreement. very little came occupant of that agreement. the water agencies were waiting for someone tolls pay for the w this needed to be done and the money did not materialize. well is an old luin california fish and game code 5937. this the owner and operator of a

dam must keep fish in good condition for this dam. that is know obligation it is -- you have rights to may be build infrastructure on a river and rights to some of the water. but have you to give back. you have to make sure the fish near good condition. they have not been. we address the issues in 95. very little happen exclude now many years later the puc and irrigation districts say we will do [inaudible] what needs to happen as language as we don't release more water. i reminds you there were requests for environmental updates i hope we will get one soon the timing is good now that we know about the salmon season. and we need to take a look at the finance behind the tuolumne river agreement it is in the

robust. thank you. next caller. 2 minutes >> commissioners, i often say, who will poke for the salmon? once again, givenut empirical data most of y'all did not know. that's fine. you are annointed now. we need to sit down with the first people. the other tribes. and ask them, if they feel comfortable this now the salmon have reached a plight and the salmon are in dire straights.

and animals went and stolen [inaudible]. and them to walk [inaudible] greedy and they will not do anything farz mitigation is concerned. we need to invite the tribes. we need to pay for the transportation like i did once. so they can stand tall. and speak on behalf of the salmon. and am we environmentists we work with empirical data. we need the data. and discuss about it and have a dialogue as oppose to monologue

and [inaudible] wake up and look at the world in another way. [inaudible] thank you for sharing your comments. there are no more callers in the queue. >> thank you. general public comment is closed. >> okay. go ahead. okay. perfect. thank you for the comments. madam secretary read the next item >> item 12 initialled by commission for future discussion. colleagues, items would like to bring to the table? i see none. can we have the next read the next item.

>> next is adjournment item 13. excellent. thank you. we are done for the day. and you are adjourned. -

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creates the shop & dine in the 49 to support businesses make people all the residents and visitors realize had cool things are made and produced in san [music] >> welcome to the 2022 sfmta bus roadeo. today what we will see is competitions of different levels. we will see transit operators through a obstacle course. also see the office rfs maneuver the g4 cars

through a course. (inaudible) [beeping] then also have a element of (inaudible) who are doing inspections and repairs and some of the equipment related to our buses. [applause] >> i enjoy coming to the event because of the camaraderie with the staff and seeing the departments and everybody meeting arfbd so the more we can do these things the better we'll be and it helps the agency grow. >> the winner of the local bus roadeo the person goes to the national (inaudible) one additional item we add to the event and call it a fun event where managers at the senior level get to test their skills operating a bus. (inaudible)

transfer officers (inaudible) basically maneuver the course and they (inaudible) >> interesting to see some of the main managers run the course out there. they haven't had as much experience but they did pretty well. i'll submit the bus damage for the bumps they did to the body shop for estimates. [applause] >> behind us we have vintage buses that were brought out for folks to see. some of these vintage buses are sfmta, part of the historical fleet. two others belong to the pacific bus museum and a personal bus of a individual that owns it. we take great pride in the historical buses we have and try to keep it up to date. >> it is a way to bring employees together, work together as a team. a great morale booster something the employees have been asking for a year and it is great today because you can see

how happy they were to once again do something they really enjoy. [cheering] >> first place (inaudible) [applause] third place goes to monica collins. (inaudible) >> this is my last roadeo. i'm throwing in the towel.

>> who doesn't love cable cars? charging emissions and we're free which we're proud of you know, it's not much free left in the world anymore so we managed to do that through donations and through our gift shops. you got a real look and real appreciation of what early transit systems are like. this was the transit of the day from about 1875 to about 1893 or later, you know. cable car

museum is free, come on in. take a day. come down. rediscover the city. you can spend as time you want and you don't have to make reservations and it's important to be free because we want them to develop a love for cable cars so they do continue to support whether they live here or other places and people come in and say, yes, i have passed by and heard of this and never come in and they always enjoy themselves. people love cable cars and there's none left in the world so if you want to ride a cable car, you've got to come to san francisco. that what makes the city. without the cable cars, you lose part of that, you know, because people who come here and they love it and they love the history ask they can ride a cable car that has been running since 1888 or 1889. wow! that's something. can't do that with other historical museums. rarely, have i run into anybody from outside who didn't come in and didn't feel better from knowing something about the city. it's a true experience you'll remember.

i hope they walk away with a greater appreciation for the history, with the mechanics with people are fascinated by the winding machine and i hope the appreciation, which is a part of our mission and these young kids will appreciate cable cars and the ones who live here and other places, they can make sure there will always be cable cars in san francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. it's the heartbeat of san francisco that founded the cable and the slot and without the cable cars, yeah, we would lose something in san francisco. we would lose part of its heart and soul. it wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing] >> you are watching san francisco rising with chris manner. today's special guest is carla short.

>> hi, i'm chris manner and you are watching san francisco rising the show about restarting rebuilding and reimagining the city. our guest is carla short the intric director of public works and here to talk about the storms we had and much more. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> great to have you. let's start by talking about the storms that started beginning of the year. there fsh a lot of clean up recovery and remediation. can you talk about what your team did? >> sure. the 17 inches of rain we got starting on new year's eve through the first 2 and a half weeks of january made it one of the wettest periods in recorded history for san francisco, so as you imagine we had a lot of work to do. we gave out more then 31 thousand sand bags, we were operating all most non stop from new year's eve to san francisco residents and businesses out of our operation yard and

frequently working thin rain so it was a beautiful dance to watch. we had a corio graphed where people drive in the stop and load with san dags and get on it way so thats was the most visible thij weez had to do. responded to all most a thousand calls for localized flooding for the corner of the street with catch basin. our team trying to address that. we clear and pick up anything to block and it hopefully get the flooding to go down. if we are able to respond we call in the san francisco pub utility system and are responsible for the sewer system under so they bring ing vack trucks that vacuum out debris inside the catch basin. we also dealt with lots and lots of calls about trees and tree limbs down. i think we actually faired better then some other places in terms of loss of full

trees. we did have whole tree failures and that is not that uncumin with super satch waited soil conditions. we had over 950 calls about trees or tree limbs down. a lot of calls were about loss of a limb and we could save the tree. we are still assessing the data to figure how many were full tree failures versus limb failure. >> also had land movement too. the great highway comes to mind. what is your approach to managing rock mud and land slides? >> that is a great question. we had 28 different slides over the course of that period. it is kind of a interesting process, so the first step is we have our geotechnical or structural engineers take a look to see is the hillside safe, do we need to stabilize it in some way or just need to do some cleanup? once they made their assessment they will recommend the next steps. often times to protect public safety we will place k

rails the giant concrete rails at the base omthe slide area to make sure that any debris doesn't get on the edroway and bring ing the heavy equipment to scoop up on the ground and move off the roadway and try to open the roadway. some cases, we will actually inject some rocks or other stabilizing forces either into the slide area or sometimes below the roadway. right now there is nothing that's unstable out there but be are keeping a close eye on the areas including the gray highway area. >> right, right. well, so talking about the storms in the city response, brings us to southeast community scepter when there is rain remediation projects going on. can you talk about the inconstruction project kblrks that is a favorite project. a beautiful new community facility. we

were involved in pretty much every aspect of developing that project for the public utility commission. they were a client. we design project management and construction management and the landscape design for that project. and one thing that we included was storm water management throughout the entire project site. so, that project encapturealize the rain water that lands on the roof and flows into the landscape where we have rain gardens so intent is slow the water down to and give areas to collect to percolate into the ground rather then the sewer system. when we have sewers that are overloaded, because our rain water mixes with the sewer treatment storm sewer system, we actually can end up dist charging into the bay which we dont want to do. anything we can do to just prevent those combined sewers from

overpm loaded is a good thing and in this case allows the water to collect onsite and percolate to the ground which is the best way to manage the storm water and it is beautiful and provides habitat. i encourage everybody to see it. it is special place. >> that's great. there was recently news about how city (indiscernible) powered by steam, which is super unusual i think. i understand public works ablgtually does the maintenance on the system. can you just talk about that a bit? >> sure. that is a unusual situation. that steam loop was actually built when the city was recovering from the 1906 earthquake. it only provides to steam about 4 buildings in civic center but that is how we keep buildings like city hall warm. the steam goes

into the radiators and provides the heat. it is a old system and if you see steam billowing out of the man holes or other spaces, that is indication of a leak actually. we spend a lot of time trying to fix the leaks because it's a old system. it is managed by the real estate department and at one point they were looking trying to replace the whole thing but think that is a massive undertaking so now they focus on making as needed repair said. we did a big repair on growth street where we spent a month and a half working on the known leaks s in the area. it is a very tight spot and have to use blow torches to seal up the leak so a intense operation and seeing more leaks on polk street so we will be out there once it warms up to fix the leaks. >> excellent. let's discuss what is the reunifiquation of public works. there

fsh a proposal or plan to split off the division, called the street and sanitation. now that has been shelved and public works is going to just retain being a single entity. can you talk through the process? >> sure. yeah. the original proposal was a ballot measure voted on to split the department into 2. it basically create the department of sanitation and streets that was really going to incompass all our operation divisions so it was a street cleaning department but encompass everything we refer to as operations. when we worked preparing for that split with the city administrator office, we found there were actually 91 what we call touch points between the operations work and our engineering and architecture side, so we really felt like it could be very difficult to split into two departments. we have so many areas of overlap. there was a

new ballot measure last november to reunit the department. technically we split october one and did split in some ways. we did put on hold some of the behind the scenes things like rebranding all the vehicle jz giving everyone a new e-mail address in the sanitation and streets department, but on january 1 of 2023 we came back together so we are reunited i want sing the peaches and purb song and think it is a good thing for the 91 areas of overlap. we making #2c3w50d use of the research. preparing for the split. looking at all the touch points and trying to strengthen the department so we are more streamlined and efficient. one of the most important component from the original ballot measure is commission oversight. we retained two commissions, the public works commission which

oversee the over-all department and approve the budget and contracts. and sanitation and street commission and their mandate focus on policy and deliverable for street cleaning and basically the operation division. reporting to them regularly how we are doing, we think will help make sure we are as efficient and effective as we can be as a department. >> that sounds great. thank you so much for coming and talking to me today and appreciate the time you have given. >> thank you so much for having me. it was a pleasure. >> that is it for this episode. you are watching san francisco rising.

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