wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing] this meeting am come to order. good morning and welcome to monday april third, 2023 of rowels of the san francisco board of prierzs i'm supervisor dorsey chair i'm joined by vice chair walton and committee member safai. on behalf of my colleagues i will express our gratitude to our clerk victor young and the

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would you call item one. >> yes. item 1 is hear to consider ash pointing member ending february 21-ending 2029 to ethics. commissioner bush is joining remote low. >> we were trying to contact him. it does not appear he is line at this time. we have i representative with the ethic's commission who is working with mr. bush to assist him to get on line >> why don't we try to address that and come back. is it okay to call item 2. >> yes. >> item 2 motion approving the major's nomination for appointment of timothy reyff to the treasure island board of director ending february 26,

2026. why thank you. mr. reyff is here. >> good morning. >> chair dorsey and the board. theme thee reyff i'm with carpenter's local 22 the mayor nominated mow to the position. i feel i bring construction experience to this. it is a development. i got interested in this position when i had gone on a meeting on the i land about 4 years. i have been interesting in the development of treasure island but i had gone on a meeting on the island and there were a lot of residents who are at this meets bringing up occurrence of power going out for long periods of time. you know various utilities, stuff like this. and -- i felt for the people because if you will live out there, you need to be addressed and a lot of the people are lower income individuals.

some have challenged medical needs. i wanted thought to moiz it terrible the people are out here and get isolated. if we build 8,000 houses on this island. first we gotta think of the people that are out there, buzz they definitely deserve a piece of a slice of that pie so to peek. and you have attended a few meeting with development remote. a lot of it that i have been you know involved with on those meetings is the construction related stuff. there is also a few issues out there that will be coming up you know as the development you know -- goes on in the future. i think that is all i got. >> thank you, mr. reyff i appreciate your comment this is is i district i represent and

close to my heart. i appreciate when you said, too, about this is one of the things i'm aware of is that residents of treasure island are san franciscans who are aware they are experiencing being a san franciscans is different t the service they don't get. i know you know most of my time in this building pent working for dennis herrera now in charge of the puc he hears from me complaining the i lanltd of o'ahu is better connected to the main land than treasure i lan. i appreciate your background with the carp terse there is development coming and the city should keep in minds. 10% of marina allocation goals are treasure island. i think it is important and managil advocate per this is a san francisco neighborhood temperature is an island but it is is not treated as an island

should be treated like a neighborhood and a part of the success this we need to have or else if there is a big process for failing on marina goals and the housing element the success is important to the city. i appreciate your wellingness to do this. i think your back grounds will be important there. this is an island where there is a lot of training for construction trades and building trade and mark for identification my the most moving community meetings i have been to in district 6 here has been on treasure island. the people who are from the reent ear recovery community. but training for careers that are going to enable them to serve family and reshape our city. i think -- you bring a lot and i appreciate your willingness to serve. clothes are there questions or

comments? >> you said it very well. thank you. >> okay. thanks. mr. reyff. let's mr. clerk open up for public comment. >> yes, members of public had wish to speak and joining in person should line up to speak. for those remote call 415-655-0001. access code: 2486 823 8957 ##. once connected you mode to press star 3 to enter the speaker line. for those in the queue continue it wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted then comment. can we have the first speaker? >> good morning i'm james talityis i'm carpenter local 22 and a field rep. i have known tim for 20 years. one time he worked under me now

we work side by side. tim is very go getter. anything you give him he just dive in it 100% and get its done. noion that is too mall or big for tim. thank you. good morning, supervisors i'm sean mcgarry with local 22 in san francisco. today i will spoke in favor of appointment of timothy reyff stot treasure island board of directors. i have known tim for 20 years and i can say he hard working. up to any task no matter how difficult. he is result driven. but always takes in account the interests of all. tim reyff is diligent with everything he does i ask for

your approval in the appointment of timothy rief to the treasure island development authority board. and on behalf of the carpenter family i thank you for your time this morning. bid you a good day and to your point local hire, and the interests of not just treasure i land but the city as a whole there is a phenomenonal opportunity here to bring people up that have been former low under. under utilized to a points. the island does have phenomenonal and 8,000 plus homes. that could expand. but i see no reason yet people on the island should not benefit and the carpenter stands with

your district. to make sure that happens. thank you. no further speakers in the room. see if we are remote? there are none on the line >> thank you, public comment on item 2 is closed. >> i would like to make a motion to strike reject from lines 3 and 15 of the motion leaving approved and send it to the board with positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk. roll call. >> yes. on the motion, vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. iot motion passes without objection. >> thank you. on a unanimous vote item 2 goes to the full board with a positive recommendation. call the next item. >> all right. yes. item low a motion approving

rejecting the major's nomination for reappointment of steve heminger to the transportation agency board of directors term ending march 1 of 2027. >> thank you. mr. heminger i appreciate you joining us the floor is yours. >> thank you. mr. chairman and members. it is i pleasure it join you again. about 3 years after i was first appointed to the mta in spring of 2019, our first job was to find a now director of transportation. and as soon as we did this a few months later the pandemic macked us between the eyes. and you know that phenomenon affected all city government agency wide and were no exception at muni necessity is the mother of invention.

we were forced impsunrise on a grand scale to try to meet the pandemic head o. i mention 3 examples that a few years ago we did not have the jargon but we do now. one is slow streets. a second is the shared spaces program. and a third is the red carpet lanes that give muni a faster roadway through town. you will of those are permanent features of the transportation landscape and we were able to test them during the pandemic i said we were forced to test them. so this we could mote the moment. and although we are exiting the pandemic i think we will be dealing with this consequences for a time to come. we are still at 2 thirds of our prepandemic roadwayership. we want to get every one of the

folks become. we are not quite there. we would like to run or full service level but we need to figure out i way to pay for that. i think you are well aware that the u.s. government provided muni over a billion dollars of emergency aid that really kept doors open and buss and trains rung. the trouble is we have basically exhaustd that money our next budget year. we are going to have to figure out i way to get muni right in terms of its budget of i want to mention anotherning they would very much appreciate your attention to, and this is our vision zero target. the year for meeting that target is next year and it was set 10 years ago and i regret to say that left year was the worse years ever. in terms of traffic fatalities.

we have to do better on that program. and our board is exploring a number of ideas and believe me, the board is very engage in the this question. and during the pandemic our roads were turned into race ways. because there was less traffic and people thought. that the heck i will drive faster. and we gotta get folks out of that habit. mr. chairman and members may be it is against my better gentlemen i'm here to ask you for 4 more blers i reappointment to the mt aboard. >> thank you, mr. heminger. i appreciate your wellingness to serve. you bring extraordinary professional expertise and have youed the conversation we had that was touched on things from e bikes and bike share and fares

and vision zero in district 6 where i represent. this is i represent a neighborhood that has a disprosecute portionate loss of life because of a lot of traffic violence that goes on. i appreciate it and vice chair walton. >> thank you director heminger. i have a question in terms of as we look at the fiscal cliff that our transportation agencies are faith. in a region and the country. what are your thoughts about the government prosecute voiding resources for our transportation, do you think it is rolistic? do you think there are others ones and opportunity that exist outside of the federal government stepping up in a big way haare your thoughts on that. why supervisor, you know i think the short answer from my experience is that you know the

will billion dollars we received in pritting assistance in the capitol money. was a huge exception to the rule the role the government plays. which is it provide money to us but almost entirely capitol funds. the time the debate out to be given on local yours if they want to spends more of the capital money on operations they should be allowed to. i believe the budget proposes that idea. iot trouble as you all know is that it is a tandem out to eating the seed corn. if you are going to be can bolizing your capital budget to run your operating system, at some point the lines will get too far afield of each other. i donning t is worth having the

flexibility but i think giveses that is i think putting the obligation on that yous we don't get this this spill roll. where the start spending capital money on operation and then we spend more the next year and the more the next year. and as you know muni has a deferred maintenance program. as language as your arm. so, we are really i think pretty much the best answer is it is on us. and i think we will need to raise revenue locally.

how they have been generous with capital funds for all municipality in transportation agencies. every agency across the country is suffering from ridership less then and there prepandemic level this is is different had we are used to the government in my opinion will have to step up and do more for capital and operations because our agents need big boosts until we get become to prepandemic levels and ridership, thank you. >> thank you. now supervisor safai. >> thank you, chair. thank you steve for putting your name forward again will commissioner. i think the mta commission is

the most difficult commissions to serve on because no matter when you do there is criticism from all angles. and i think that the bar is set so highway this there is never really any true appreciation for the service this is provided or decisions made. they are difficult decision. one of my questions similar to what prierz walton asked about the fiscal cliff. it seems at some point there will be difficult decisions that will have to be made. wanted hear you talk about how you will prop that as a commissioner and how the agency should do that. one of the biggest criticisms you hear about the mta is their community out sxreech how they include or involve community in

the decisionmaking. want to give you an town to talk about this. >> yea. i do think that on a regular basis our budget is the accomplice where all of those interests in to compete. where we have to adjudicate that competition. among various needs in our budget. i do think first of all that for i riof sunshine, may be. in terms of the fiscal cliff it affects agencies that relied on

their ridership and the fare ref now from ridership. bart was covering 70 plus % of their operating costs through their fare box. caltrain was higher. and those 2 agencies unfortunately are prebl in the worse shape of any to deal with it buzz they still don't have the ridership back the 2 agencies are down in the 20's. muni not only has 60% or so of ridership back but we also have a more diversified funding arrangement in terms of operating costs. we get money in the general fund and from the parking programs in san francisco. and we also get revenue from the fare box but never been 70 or 80%. you know on a good day i wish it were but it is not that high and the silver lining is that we don't need to rely on one piece of ref now. we got a good balanced portfolio that will not get us out of our hole. i can pledge to you that we will

make sure we holdup our end on community engagement in our budget. but you noted the out set of your res, well is no magic solution that will make everybody happy. we still are hor of passengers. short of ref now and having i hard time hiring bus drivers. if you don't have i driver you don't have i bus. i hope that is responsive to your question. i would be help to work with you as we move through the budget process. i know you will have a difficult budget to deal with yourself. we are not an exception. why i have one follow up question. i'm glad you highlighted the bus driver situation. one, you talked to the phenotype line staff and the people went agency the biggest criticisms you hear the agency is top heavy. there is a lot of managers from,

let of different departments this over lap and it is in the clear in terms of organizational structure. dpkt low how that is divided up. has your commissioner board done an internal audit of prilgzs of mount in terms how it structured? and -- i can only speak to my tenure on the mt aboard and it would be, no. in this case, but there may have been attempts. i know the budget analyst has looked at muni a couple of time in my memory. may be you are right, men that is subject to revisit. >> i think that because there is a conversation out there percolating that says your budget be down you are 60-70 percent ridership, short falls. difficult decision. i hear lines this might have to

be eliminated and then the other side is this you don't have enough bus drivers. and then you have managers in position and different areas doing things that are not clear to capital, which feeds into service and so on. i think as i commissionering in charge of a director of this billion dollars entity, it might be helpful to consider that. thank you, we will. >> thank you. >> good p. thank you, to my clothes for excellent questions. thank you mr. heminger i appreciate, i did, one thing i was going to explore making sure that you know this is a contentious issue when it come to transportation. i know that sometimes doing the work of community out roach and engagement with folks is an

important thing itch appreciate, i'm sorry i want to add. because it is something i hear often. there is i certain constituency we saw last week that is still not feeling comfortable to get back on to muni that has to do with safety of the over all environment. you saw 15 years old that was stabbed on the ride coming approximate china town. there was issues of violence and other things. there are people that are concerned. i want today give you an opportunity to speak about that because i think that feeds to people feeling comfortable coming become to roadway. >> i agree with you, and this is upper most in our minds. i think we talk a bit about t. my burden president here about that question at our last meeting. so if people don't think it is safe there is no amount of

talking can you do to get them on the bus. we gotta do better there. general low, mount sethe safer places to be. but the fact is that the incidents we do have tends to be fair low river they stick out. and i think per the public they are memorable. we don't want them tom have that memory. >> thank you. and thank you for fielding my questions i think we could not speak in advance thank you for your service. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and thank you. thank you mr. heminger soing no further questions from clothes. mr. clerk open up to public comment. why members of the public had wish to speak lineup at this time. for those remote call 415-655-0001, access code: 2486 823 8957 ##.

press star 3 to enter the line. for those in the queue wait until you have been unmuted that will be your queue to begin comments. nobody in chambers. we have 3 -- oh. please approach. no, we in person is first. >> good morning members of rules i'm amanda eakon chair of the mta board i want to say a few word in support of my colleague. steve brings decades of experience rung a transportation agent for the bay area taxling the projects like the bay bridge that project finance and wing with jurisdictions bruin this role if you watched our hearings and the way he lean in on the central subway financing and

finishing that project bringing that oversight to make sure we got it right. he is i champion for vision zero and safer streets. in our community purke staff hard to reach goals as well as a champion for equal public transportation for all. i wanted endorse the reappointment of my colleague steve heminger and thank you for your attention. why thank you. why move on to our phone line. first caller, please. eileen with sunset park side education and action committee. speaking on my own behalf. speaking on 3 and 4. asking the question would the reointment of 2 members of the mt aboard represent the status quo the mta's important customer

is itself. the mta director makes derogatory comments about the city such as san francisco is more conservative as moscow or mta plans out of someone's college text book rather than related to the irrelevant world or select group of special interests as an outside influence on mt. mta despite an enterprise department received a budget set, side in bonds. implements seemingly failed policies and projects such as eltear very well the upper great highway. jfk drive, slow streets and projects that have negative impacts on first responders i urge you to form lit an mta package for the ballot which would address the failures of

prop e remove check and balances placing the mta and board under the kroeflt mayor. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning, proirz this is jodi i'm an executive director of [inaudible]. my apologies for the background noise i'm walk to my office and appreciate the ability for remote comment i'm endoergs the reappointment of steve heminger to the sfmta board. i found mr. heminger to be thoughtful in questions. he also has pointed out experience in transportation [inaudible] during the financial challenges faced by agency. i really appreciate chair

heminger's work on vision zero. [inaudible] and chair eaken asked the top 2 priors. he did mention [inaudible]. this year. very much in line of the values of the priorities of the board. [inaudible]. last month [inaudible] grit to work with with the add have kaes groups. upon and i would think that he is wonderful addition to the board. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. great. david pilpel can you hear mow? >> yes, >> great. thank you.

so i know steve heminger. we got a long history going become to mtc and the board and supervisor cop and the parking and traffic commission. anyway. i know him well and i passport his reappointment, he asked thoughtful questions does in the always agree with staff and is skeptical. we continue to have our agreements and disagreements but we do so revolve low. he knows this topic, transportation. muni, the streets, et cetera and does a good job. again i support his reappointment. i note that the form 700 in the packet for the public is 3 years old. and in the future i think it would be better to have the current form 700 available to the public. thank you.

>> thank you. see figure there are additional callers. yes. next speaker, please. >> good morning i'm [inaudible] i serve on the sfmta board of directorings i'm here to speak in spchlt steve heminger. it has been so wonder to feel heart comments speak to the vast expertise he holdses and position of board of director of mta. he asked thoughtful questions does in the always agree with staff and it wonder and will refreshing to see that someone with his level of experience hen able to support us in navigating the challenging times the agency faced. and in meeting vision zero goals. his passion for the work is seen

every day. and i learned so much serving along side him. i'm here to fully support his reappointment. and looking forward to working with him if y'all approve today. thank you. and hopefully i will see you tomorrow. steve. do the hard work. >> thank you. that was our last phone caller for public comment. why thank you, mr. clerk. public upon comment is now closed. >> and i would lo toik make a motion to sprooik strike reyekt from 3 and 15 leaving approved. and then sends this to the full board with positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk. roll call? >> yes, on this motion vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai.

>> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> great. mr. young on a unanimous vote item 3 goes with a positive recommendation. >> call the next item. >> yes. next on the agenda is item 4. motion approving rejecting the mayor's nomation for reappointment of amanda eaken to the municipal transportation agency board of directors term ending march 1 of 27. >> thank you, mr. clerk. miss eaken welcome. why good morning chair dorsey, vice chair walton and supervisor safai. thank you for your service to san francisco. for your partner help and attention. i want to start by sharing on a personal level how meaningful the last 4 and a half years my service on this board has been. we navigated keeping a public

transit system running through a pandemic. emergency redesign of the transit system almost over night with eye to getting essential wars to destinations. and this this board pushed for and won recognition for the heroic prirt hos showed up daily when he we were all terrify they'd showed up to work to keep the city moving. these people are hero in our city and to be able to be part of an agency comprised of the workers is a huge honor and privilege. i had a chance to attends the safe operator awards dinner something to do again in person in a couple of years and watch the operators come to the stage to be recognized for 15 years. 25 years. 35 years and up to 48 years of safe service to our city that many years with no incident is huge low inpyring and makes me

feel proud of the work we are doing and humbled to be a mall part of this agency. i enjoyed connect with community members. this is to your question, supervisor safai, i had i chance to connect with you supervisor walton i to being i bike roadway with you your colleague percy and district 10 to look at of the safe bicycle connections and appreciate the chance to hear from community member in that regard. to your question supervisor safai, i try very hard in this role to listen to the feedback we get from community members. to balance the requests against our agent and the city's commitments, goal and have yous and try hard it finds the most inclusive being equal and cocreative path forward. we have to make many difficult decision in this work. in terms of my qualification and

redness to step in the role. i have been privilegeed serve vice chair since 2020. i was honored elected as chair this year. in january. and i bring over 2 decades of experience work negligent transportation sector professionally. i wanted note for you i don't think it is on the résumé i have been named by uc berkeley othering and belonging snout one of 9 transportation equity leaders and residents across california. to work with colleagues in central valley and southern california to advise the board on equal engage am strategies that has been a dedicated time to deepen my work on social equity. i want to flag 3 priorityis would like to put my energy into if i received your support going forward. i heard you talk about the fiscal cliff. this is i major challenge.

fiscal year 25 we have a 130 million dollars projected deficit this rises to 214 million dollars in fiscal 26. i attended a lobby day in sacramento with director tumlin and staff to speak to legislators how we can address this cliff this has to be a top prior to continue to meet the mobility needs of the traveling public in san francisco. second low, i want to talk about safety. you know we had 37 fatalities on streets. our goal is that it has to be zero and the commitment is by end of 24 this . is a very steep challenge. we have stove and i and the board pushed staff hard to do everything we can. one thick we want done is the high injury network. ure than is the 13% of streets most of the fatalities and

injuries occur. we have committed to make street improve ams to every mile of that high injury net w by end of 2024. we are creating a vision introvert o committee to keep staff on task. i attended a lobby day in sacramento to push for safer speed enforce them is key to make streets safe. >> lastly that is a prior and more on a personal note, is we had a panel with community members at the workshop on february 7th. we intentionally hosted a panel to hear from community members about the topic of trust in government. what do we do that creates trust in government. what do we do to under mine trust in government and how do we get in our own way sometimes. one thing that stuck with mow from that panel was something the executive director of bayview ymca contributed.

she said that we in government need a sense of culture of caring. i love third degree. it is in the a financial metric or on time arrival but dot members feel their gentleman cares about them. i think we should keep reminding ourselves of this daily te. i try to bring this sense of culture of care nothing our work. and i want thez who take their time out to comment to the agency to give us ideas. whether or not we agree with all or implementment want them to feel respected, heard and cared for. we are all part of this community all voices matter and we want to be that inclusive revolve agency. i wanted to humbly request support for my reappointment. i would love tom continue to serve the city i care so much about and happy to answer questions you have today. >> thank you for your time.

>> thank you very much am, i wanted to upon say how much i appreciated the opportunity to meet with you and that -- third point you made about trust in government is one that resonated with me. and i think learning low because i spent 6 months in a focus group in an election listen to votes and san franciscans and one thing i was getting loud and clear is -- people want upon to believe in their government. and i think when we have to be mindsful of this. i thought the culture the metric of care and with the community leader said i'm -- i'm glad it resonates with you because it does with me, too. this is something i feel i need to be mindsful of. we have no greater obligation than doing everything we can to preserve the legitimacy of

government. even when people disagree for people to know they are seen and heard and participating in a process. so that was impressive to me that speaks to the leadership we need in this moment i appreciate your willing to serve in a leadership role. we have a question here from vice chair walton. >> thank you so much director eaken for being willing to serve. i have a concern because there have been times where i have relayed occurrence of xount to the mt aboard of directors via community, via letter or roached out. and either did not get a response or lack luster response or had to follow up with the mta burden it get a response to an inquiry. i'm wondering how do we make surety mt aboard is more

responsive to issues and concerns. particularly issues brought by this body? >> this topic of community engagement how are we cocreating the policy decisions of the board with communities. how are we leaning in the idea of shifting and sharing power with community was a topic on that community trust panel i referred to on february 7th. one of the ideas i had manage out of that panel is of course. we have a citizen's advisory council to the sfmta board that is intentionally comprised of a member each from each of the districts around the city. i met with chair michael chen to talk about the relationship what is the right relationship with that citizen dhouns is meant to represent the city. and the sfmta board of

directors. how we do things now they present to the board a resolution. witness an among or so that is about all of the engagement. that body meets regular low and deliberate on issues we are meant to vote on. i think we have room for improvement in terms how that council is representing. the different voice of districts and how this come to the board of directors. we have not solve today but i am working with the chair and the voice chair and council to understand how we can better hear from communities. i worn if the representative from district 10 on the council is a small part of the solution how we have a live and active line of communication. >> i agree that the citizen committee is an important way of communicating back and forth. i guess directly how do we get

quick are response from the board occurrence are expressed through the chair and to the chair. i don't know. i'm asking about thing in your control special how you will better community when issues are were brought to your attention? >> yea >> one of the things i'm working with. with victoria and leadership of mta to figure out the right relationship of the chair of the board. and the sfaf what are the ways the chair step in and times that make sense for staff to be in leadership. we want to be responsive to all of our constituents and i will be happy to have a side bar with you after regarding what we get you, set an expectation in

response time. is it 24 hour, 2 hours. what that is, make sure everybody know and i can help to reenforce that. i am repoe the equal i had commissioner to commissioner heminger. regarding there is a conversation fiscal cliff and conversation about how will proceed as an agency in terms of making difficult decisions and yet there is also an on going narrative and criticism this the agency is top heavy. so are you supportive of an audit of your agency and determining how spending is done and where you can look for a direction that motive not be about looking at kuth service

orrousing service to the public in the future? if this crisis come upon us. i have a couple of responses. thank you for the question. one is you know we are about 1200 staff short of the team we need do. we need to have in accomplice to do our work. we discuss third degree and met sprier safai we did look at a hiring pause during the pandemic there was uncertainty about our fiscal future. we did not want to be in i situation when we staffed and up because of shortages had to engage in layoffs. we near a situation we don't upon have the staff we need. and what i will share with you is that -- everyone is over worked. everyone is tired. people are not taking a vacation they have. i went out and visited with folks at the paint shop and sign

shop and had i heard from the manager list is this the people have not taken a verification. buzz there is so much demand to get the improvements out. making sure streets are safe they are working become to back daily. they are in the taking vacation they have this . is i great concern for direct tumlin and the board. and vice chair boarden and i discussed. staff moral and whether staff feel the culture of feeling does staff feel we are staffed up for success or they are doing equal of 2-3 jobs because we don't have full staff to deliver on goals this it is i great concern. so this suspect one point i want to make. second is around the fiscal cliff piece. one of the opportunity i think coming in at the bide sxen harris administration created for us is they are, luing us to

fleck the infrastructure dollars this come in to california through this new law. they are, luing us to fleck the funding coming in to transit if we want to. the state has, let to say and we have flexed 10% of the dollars coming in the state. but can we with -- world leading climate special equity goals think about, lining dlrdz with the goals that could help. i want to say i'm firm low in favor of identifying the durable ref now source we need to staff up. if we need to look at prierz or director heminger said, at whether this top heavy narrative you spoke to is in fact creating

a circumstance where we are sort of over staffed. i would be happy to look at that. my anecdotal briefings from staff that we notoriety opposite situation we are in a place all staff are working well over the hours per week they compensated to. and i want to have the full team we neated to thrive and succeed. >> i would say the 2 are not exclusive can you have a top heavy organization and have a need for more bus driver and front line staff. you might be staffed up in the wrong scombrars that's why an audit could be helpful. but thank you for your response. >> thank you, chair >> thank you supervisor safai >> no further questions or comments from clothes, mr. clerk, open up to public comment. >> thank you. >> thank you all. >> members of the public who wish to speak and joining person lineup at this time. for those remote call

415-655-0001, access code: 2486 823 8957 ##. once connected press star 3 toern the speaker line. for those in the queue continue to wait until the city indicates you have been unmou exclude begin your comments. >> good morning. thank you for the opportunity to speak i was going to wait for general public comment the topic of safety came up i'm here to talk b. i took on this task of upon finding out what was happen nothing san francisco with accident and over dose. and over the weekend i went for a walk and bush and vaness on the building the mayor decided to deploy l roadway long range device. if it is on top of the is on 24 hours a day.

which would be outside the scope of the deploy am by rules. i'm asking the mayor to resign and the board of supervisors take on a special meeting. sir. i want to on general public comment the board of supervisors tomorrow you are welcome to. upon it it is safety because it is causing the accidents in muni. it covers everything. and will it needs to be taken down immediately. >> in public comment. at the committee level the board rowels are this is specific to the appointment >> thank you. >> see you tomorrow. thanks. >> online public comment. >> first caller, please? >> good morning supervisors i'm micheal chen.

i am the chair of the mta citizen's advisory council. and speaking to the prierz's who are seated, i'm excited. happy to work with the district representative connor skully grit to work with and the district 6 represent is being seat third degree month. and after a language time in district 10 [inaudible] i'm excited to looking forward to work with whoever supervisor walton appoints to replace that appointment. also i have been happy to work with folks on the cac. so spaeking i'm here to support reappointment of directors eaken and heminger. [inaudible].

hello. >> um -- we can hear you. okay. of upon the support the reappointments of director eastbounding sxen director heminger who already just passed. director eaken has been a stead hundred during challenging times for the agency and i reenforce what director eaken said working on community trust and input and engagement. director eaken had a pan i was invited but could not make i was out of town and but we had multiple conversations when i spoke at the board meetings and patriot low about how to improve community input and trust, how to set people's expectations correct low about when and how input and feedback are used so people are not broken and trust

is in the broken. i when i come to the cac and forwarded the feelings of the councilmembers about reports i have seen the board engage more and encouraged by the board to give more panama river at this time reports now than. i think this is due to due to a better working relationship that we are now working on. >> speaker time e lapsed. thank you very much. we are allocating to minutes per peek and a pol yoiz if we have to cut anybody off. next speaker, please. >> good morning i'm stefani again. here to peek in support reappointment of my colleague amandza eaken.

she brings perspective to the role this helps our bodies the key works of equity and he access and accessible and safe for riders. i wish major [inaudible] families. and meeting vision zero goals. we are upon behind. having that focus is incredible. she is committed to pregnant ways for decisionmaking. [inaudible] she made it her mission to restore public trust. held meetings with groups and is a huge under take. machine in i decisionmaking position carry responsibility of this is needed. again i am supportive of my clothe and her reappointment and grill that a lot of the dwhaes have come from our supervisors

today encourage public comment and hearing from folks. thank you. >> next caller. >> good morning. this is jodi the executive director of walk san francisco and reminds we other city's only pedestrian organization and leader of the 40 bus member groupful as well as families first safe streets i'm calling to support reappointment of amanda eaken sfmta board. and she definitely has her eye on this prize. at the board retreat in february asked all members what their top priorities are and happy to hear

5 oust 6 said vision zero. she will work with the agency and members to put the policy in accomplice and [inaudible] what can and should be done to roach that goal. i don't know if show talked about this t. commendsable last week director eaken went to >> samantha: to pass ab645. thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good morning, supervisors. this is [inaudible] i was heartened to hear mr. heminger passport doing the audit that supervisor safai [inaudible] disapointing hearing ms. eaken

suggest med it is not necessary. i have friends who work at mta they are concerned about possible low management. i encourage you to "budget or analyst conduct a management audit t. is in the best interests of the fiscal healing of mta and urge you to call for i board hearing on management at mta. thank you. good morning i'm support being the reappointment chair eaken. i missed my time to support

heminger. eaken is dopely involved and knowledgeable the >> latoya: and the issues. she asks deep and probing questions whether you agree with every vote does in the merit show is enengaged, passionate about transportation and vision zero and deserves to continue appointment and lead the board. thank you very much. next speaker, please. upon i'm a d1 resident for wuk sf spoke nothing personal low. to support reappointment of chair eastbounding sxen i'm sorry i missed the chance to support heminger he is deserving, too. but chair eaken w on vision zero has been awesome. impressed with her i support.

thank you. thank you. next speaker, please. david pilpel i submit you hear me. i take a different poison vow on this one i appreciate the conversation about how we deal with different points of rowel and respect each other in dealing with differences. in conterritory if director heminger and cajina who called in i have not felt heard or respected by director eaken. she has a different point of vow from mine, which is fine but i have not always felt heard or respected. i think well is, lot of work the agency needs to do on building and rebuilding trust and that includes at least some of the

board members. also here the form 700 in the packet is from last year and not the most recent. there is no committee packet for this item either. i don't know how this happened. those are my comments. thank you for listening. where thank you. next speaker, please. that was our last caller. thank you. public comment is closed. >> so i would like to make a motion to instructor:reject from lines 3 and 15 of the motion leaving approved and sends this to the full burden with positive recommendation. mr. clerk i roll call y. on that

motion, rice chair walton. why aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> thank you. on a unanimous vote item 4 passes. mr. clerk call the next item >> next is item 5. motion approving rejecting mir avenue nomination for hoiment appointment of ed harrington to the port commission ending may 1 of 24. >> mr. harrington is here with us. mr. harrington, floor is yours >> thank you very much and good morning. i'm ed harrington thank you for ticking the time to consider my reappointment to the port. for the referred i was the controller for sudden front for years. head of general management the puc retired 10 years ago and dog

a few things w with nonprofits taught at university of san francisco. i was the treasurer for green peace for 7 years and treasurer of spur. i am a board of children's fund nothing dc an out growth of w with funding the next generation. where we work with advocates to raise ways of doing sustainable revenue strolls for services for children and yuth and lastly i have done w with earth economic and add sunrisor to water now alliance. focusing on how to finance green infrastructure for water and wastewater. my background is a mix of government finance and environmental issues. which i think is a good place to come from the port. you know, the port has i variety of issues in the northern water

front and the wararea that is the tourism and group of things happening since can i haved and revitalize that your in the mid and southern parts of the port we have a variety of thing in development will add to affordable housing and job creation in the city. and the big thing happening is climate change and the water side through sea level rise and the city side through storm water and flooding issues. i'm happy to hear comments or answer questions you may have of me. jost great. thank you very much. mr. harrington i'm a fan i came to the building tw dkdzs ago when you were city controller reputation proceeds and you i just appreciate something someone of your caliber willing to do this. and especially to serve on a commission that is so person to the district i represent.

and one theme that has in up in other appointments i think is the importance of just of out roach and hearing people and democratic press and this thing. i know from experience that the per and, let of the things we need to do for resiliency includes the development. there is expense it guess here and i report people who will not you believe happy there will are things people feel vows are blocked and the per they loved will not look the same. and it will be complicated. we are a democracy we can get through this. but tell be important to have haculture of care and i know you get that but i love to invite to you speak a bit to as a port commissioner your commitment to making sour that communities are heard and that everybody has an opportunity to we in on the

future of the port. >> sure. supervisor, clear that is important in any commission. i had a number of friends on the other side of the port commission on those issues in the pedestrian. i'm, wear there is more then and there one side had is going on. i feel a need for the port to be financial low solvent and some of that development come from this need but i'm obviously always aware of how the impacts a lot of people and how we have to balance that i'm theme do that on the port commission. >> supervisor safai. >> mr. harrington, good to see you >> good morning >> thank you for your willingness to continue to serve statutory is important for an entity like the port and others you have served on. is this has experience and the ability to look how the pieces in together. prebl more so than the puc now. the port needs your service.

we are at a transition point there have been opportunity along the way where people have come to try it negotiate. negotiating agreements or development agreement this is may or may not have seen the light of day. we have one now the wharf proposed. we will wait and see how it goes but seems to have a phenomenonal vision for revitalizing most important parts of san francisco. that has grown stale and fall had disreper se and the economics have in terms of the economic environment diminished. we want to give you an town to talk about the need for a vision for the port and the future of the port. and how the looking at public/private partnerships play an irrelevant in sustaining this

jewel we have. it is the most competitive advantages as a city. >> yes, you mentioned the puc. than i have a 2 billion dollars budget. and things the port's budget is within 20 million it is so important and it is irrelevant a very small organization and financial low and with staff. when we work with others to make it w is important. not this it is in the in other places but more for the port. had you look at the wharf, i had a mixed reaction if the wharf, somebody who grew up in san francisco what fist on out there. it is i driver for our economy and tourism and travel we need to make that place a vital ribrandt part of san francisco. it has been up and down over the yers with covid it has been hit

hard. hit in san francisco, and whatever it takes to build this become up is something i'm interested in doing and life to hear your thoughts in terms of this development green light. you think that the vision that has been laid out is forward thinking. the idea of ewe iegz the place of the active -- industry and having that look at, having the way in which that can be integrated become to the reasons why people go in terms of a fish market. and having a type of entertainment venue and hotel. ferries all the things are -- the elements are there. they need an infusion of capital and -- partner help with the city. i think to mow it seems to be a phenomenonal vision i'm looking forward to the port engaging on

this and seeing that go forward and the same thing on pier 32. we have an opportunity there and it is a pot of the city that had multiple proposals in forward. over the years and i don't know why. but they never got autopsy the ground. hopefully this time tell be i go there with the christmas tree. honest low. you thank you is the one of the largest most have you been pieces of land and it it is sitting there. as a christmas tree lot. which i love and go there and support it it could be so much more. and again if we think about reimagining the downtown and reimagining where we are in a city after covid, what is one of san francisco's most competitive advantages and usable assets

that is the water front. the ability to see water and activate and interact with water and ocean. long with all of the other amenities. this is your charge and you talked about your world experience with green peace and finance and internal nonprofit and gentleman tell take all those skills it needs someone a visionary and someone that will really usher in a new era for our port. someone with experience and grit staff in the port and great leadership. the director of port has been engage exclude gone around the world and looking for opportunity for victim this . is a hem grown san francisco committed to this is know opportunity and we have others

that are there. so, combachl i think it is a great town and q.ed you will serve look forward to supporting you. >> thank you. it is a great staff. i'm glad you mentioned the fisher folks at the wharf we think about the restaurants and hotels. with crab and salmon season they need a lot of help. the extent we work on that i will be happy to do that. >> thank you supervisor safai. mr. harrington, i'm grateful for your wellingness to serve a city you served with distinction for men years, we are luck tow have your service. i'm delighted to supporting your nomination to the port commission. seeing no questions or comments. thank you, open up to public comment. why yes, members who wish to

peek on this item and joining person line up to speak mou. for those listening remote call 415-655-0001, access code: 2486 823 8957 ##. once connected press star 3 to enter the line. for those in the queue wait until you have been un muted that will be your queue to begin your comments. no persons in the room for public comment. >> daved pilpel i know ed harrington and support him. he would serve the city well anywhere and luck tow have him volunteer to serve again. his brief résumé oshg mitts his service on the public utility commission fromlet 2020 to early

2022. his absence the left year plus has been notable. once again, in the packet it is an old form 700 and the motion is not guilty in the legislative packet today t. is a separate item. i am certain this ed will work well with the other commissioners. port staff and others in the city family. and since this is the only item as committee report i would recommend that you sends this out of committee with recommendation as a committee report to fill this seat on the port commission as soon as possible with the fantastic ed harrington. thank you. >> that was our last call are

for this merit >> thank you. mr. clerk. public comment is now closed. >> so i move to strike reject from portions of the motion, leaving aprudent personed. and then sends this to the full board as a committee report. mr. clerk a roll call on that megz. on this motion voice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. why aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> thank you item 5 goes to the full board as a committee report. congratulations. >> call the next item y. item 6 is motion amending the rules of order creating a rowel 1.3.3 in person and remote comment and amending 4.22 public ment to provide for remote comment opportunity boy the public who wish to men remote.

>> thank you, mr. clerk. item 6 is a motion amending our board of supervisors rule of order. this is a housekeeping step this makes good on a move the full board already decided last month allows unelemented remote comments in program terse unless there are questions or comments from public comment i know a lot has been said already mr. clerk open up to public comment. >> yes, members of the public had wish to speak and are in person lineup to speak. for those remote call 415-655-0001, access code: 2486 823 8957 ##. press star 3 to enter the

speaker line. there is no one in the room. can we have the first remote public commenter. >> good morning this is patrick shaw. at the out fit of this, hearings and public comment either supervisor mandelman or yourself noted this the mayor's wanted to standardize the approach across all policy bodies i support amendment to introduce i think a great. the board should use its authoritied or [inaudible] to further standardsize remote public comment by e eliminating this [inaudible] three tiered

direction if the city add administrator's office regarding time limits and creating 3 tiers one for people attending the meeting creates a second for remote callers who have requested an accommendation and had it rekosovo their status of having a disability. and then a third -- category for other remote callers. that can be time limited to 20 minutes. or whatever the policy body decides for time limitful the healing commission adopted that 3 tier requiring that people self identify as being disabled

in order to get accommendation. for an unlimited amount of time to speak. i think the board shared work with the city administrator to get that changed. >> my apologies we allocate 2 minutes per speaker. next speaker, please. >> once again david pilpel left time today i support this motion to amend the rules of order. thank you very much for guests us to this point. i note patrick shoe's letter in the file we don't always agree we men in agreement on this issue which will require further work and not necessary low an amendment to the boardy rowels but separate legislation or

action by the city administrator or others on this legislation, i believe there is one typo here on page 2 of the legislation. line 10. in the middle for purposes of this rowels 1.3.3 i believe this should be amended it say rowel in the sing lawyer for purposes of this rule 1.3.3. et cetera . with this amendment, i would encourage to you recommend this motion to the full board. thanks for listening. that completes remote comment. >> thank you mr. clerk. public comment is closed. >> and in light of that i want to thank mr. pilpel i would like to make a motion to amend the

motion to correct the proper references singular. okay. and on that -- can we have a roll call on this motion. >> on the motion to amend, vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye y. chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion is approved without -- and make a separate motion to sends to the full board as amended with positive recommendation. jot motion to amend adopt exclude now the motion to recommend -- as amended. >> vice chair walton. why aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye y. chair dorsey. >> aye. iot motion passes without

objection. >> thank you, mr. clerk item 6 goes to the full board with positive recommendation. and let's circle become to with item 1 did we have success with connecting commissioner bush. we have been but not been able i'm waiting for an update to see if anyone heard from mr. bush. >> we are not received an update to connect mr. bush to the meetingil make a motion to continue to the call of the chair. >> a roll call on that motion? yes. can we take public comment on this. why sure. >> open this up to public comment. why on the motion to continue to the call of the chair item 1. members wishing to peek on this item, there is nobody in the chamber. for those remote call

415-655-0001, access code: 2486 823 8957 ## then press star 3. for thez instead queue continue to wait until the system indicated you have been unmuted and this is time it comment. can we have the first caller, please. >> daved pilpel. sorry to disappointment with a brief comment i know larry bush approximate passport his reappointment to ethics commission he knows ethic up down and side ways i wish him good health not sure why he was unable 2 weeks ago and today to attends. i believe under the 60 day hold overrule his if he were expired on yesterday.

on the second. if this is continued again to the call the chair there will be continue to be a vacancy on the commission until that appointment or reappointment is completed. i believe that larry has been one of 2 members on the director search committee i guess will be unable to meet until this is resolved. so i hope that the sooner the better. if it needs to have a special meeting at rowels and you are able to then that would be great, too. the senior the better i look forward to having him attend approximate hopeful low reappointd and confirmed. thanks. why next speaker, please. >> this is patrick shaw. i did support nomination of

reappointment of mr. bush to ethics. this is one reason that there needs to be remote participation by policy body members. and upon i would urge you to continue this to the call of the chair. in order to eventual low reappointment mr. bunch thank you. >> thank you. just check thanksgiving was the last commenter on the phone line >> thank you, public commentom this is closed. so i would like it make a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair. why yes. on this motion vice chair walton. >> aye >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey.

>> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> thank you >> young. item 1 continued to the call of the chair. >> mr. clerk do we have further business wrchlt that completes our agenda >> we are adjourned. .... ... ...

>> good morning. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the april 6, 2023 regular meeting of government, audit and oversight committee of the board of supervisors i'm supervisor preston chair. joined by vice chair stefani and supervisor chan. clerk is stefani cabrera and our thanks to sfgovtv. >> board and committees are

convening hybrid meetings. still providing remote access via phone. board recognized equal access is essential. first public ment on each item on the agenda. those in person will be allowed to speak first then those on the phone line. for those watching 26, 28, 78 or 99 and sfgovtv the call in number is streaming. the number is 415-655-0001. access code: 2487 525 1206 ## once connected you will hear discussions but in listening mode only. when your item of interest come up. those in person line and up those on the telephone dial star

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18th. thank you. >> thank you, call item one >> a hearing on the status of opening a neighborhood serving grocery store at 555 fulton street and to get updates from developer znl and trader joes approximate office of workforce development to report. member when is wish to comment call 415-655-0001 when prompted enter id access code: 2487 525 1206 ## >> colleagues today i'm pleased to announce significant steps forward in the effort to deliver

a neighborhood serving grocery store the 5 five 5 fulton in hazevilley a promise a decade in the making. at the qualify my office yesterday afternoon the owner of the property announced they are in contract to sell the property to a new buyer who is reportedly eatingtory prepare the space for trader joe's to open a neighborhood grocery store. this is an important development and mile stone in a process many years in the making and in lieu of having the hearing until yesterday we intended have and would have had heard from all the parties from the planning department and others in the city about all the efforts, i will ask for mow to layout a bit of the back story for the public to help us understand where we are today. and then i will be moving to

continue the item to the call of the chair after i make remarks the background on the april 22nd, 2008 near low 15 years ago this board passed legislation crediting the fulton street grocery store special use district allowing for develop the capacity of 555 fulton in change for authorizing a large scale neighborhood serving grocery store as a commercial use. this came after years of haze valley and western edition neighbors add have indicating for better food access in this part of district 5. the decade and a half has been a saga to say the least. and in interest of time i will not go through the whole time line i will state the site was purchased by znl in 2015 and

developed to 139 residential units with a 16,000 ever,000 square foot ground floor retail. there were frustrating starts and stop in getting a neighborhood serving grocery in the ground floor. stretched to july of 2021. when the planning commission authorized trader joe's to operate in the retail space. it appeared at this time in 2021 long last neighborhood was getting its grocery store. and that while time was needed for alterations we were told to expect an opening date of late 22 or early 2023. yet as we greeted the new year in 2023, to our dismay and the dismay of men in the neighborhood there had been no significant progress in the effort to get the trader joe's

open nothing that space. in response to what appeared to be a lack of action and road to nowhere on for 14th this year, i called for this hearing that is before us today. with an eye toward offering all sides a chance to inform the public about their progress to date. what the barriers were to opening. and also hearing from our departments including planning oewd about their efforts. over the past few weeks our office met with represents from znl, owner and trader joe's in the course of our meetings, i think were productive znl shared the information about the status of the property. and yesterday afternoon znl confirmed that the following that znl in contract it sell 555

fulton to a buyer that is eatingtory take the steps to bring in the trader joe's this is a significant development. it is welcomed news as we understood the barrier to trader joe's moving in the space was that znl was not making the tenant improvements the basis for trader joe's to move in and open the grocery store. the potential buyer did not want to make a public statement or identify themselves at this time until the deal was closed. our office confirmed the facts as stated by znl and the property is in contract with the buy and buyer is eager to move forward with a neighborhood grocery as part of the commitment in that transaction. potential buyer ask identity not revealed. we are respecting that.

trader joe's is confirm in the a statement to our office yesterday they remain eager to open a neighborhood grocery store this was in a written statement remain eatingtory open a grocery store serving the community there. i really want to thank everyone involved. znl and trader joe's and the buyer. for the open dialogue with our office especially as the deal was pending sometimes folks don't want to get in details with officials and the public i understand but it was helpful with this hearing approaching i appreciate them sharing the steps than i have been making. i want to thank the planning department for attention to this project. and neighborhood residents for active engagement. many neighbors contacted our office about this important neighborhood issue. and it spoke loud and clear the on

going vacancy unacceptable. and i want to note the and thank the haze valley neighborhood association for their w for many years long predating my time in the district 5 office. so. we intonight keep update pressure on all parties to get this done that's what constituents want and what we want. there is work to be done we are happy to share this dig step forward and positive development today. upon gib this bricking news on the progress i informed the folks who were going to present that we are going to hold off on presentations. i would like to continue the hearing to the call of the chair and keep the file open and appropriated to bring the matter back as need in the case we encounter unexpected delays going forward. and so unless there are questions or comments, from colleagues and i'm not seeing

anyone, go head and open up for public comment on the proposed continuance of this item. >> thank you. are there members of public when would like to comment on the continuance of item 1? lineup along the wall to the right. remote call in file 415-655-0001, access code: 2487 525 1206 ##. >> welcome. long-term hez dent in haze valley and involved in this situation since inception had the building was propose in the 2003 the supervisor accurately

sum rised the major issues going on in the 15 years of the real development of this. i'm here to support the continuance. and thank the supervisor and his assistance for all of the hard work dealing with this complicate exclude difficult situation. the neighborhood just realliments everything resolved we can go through the issues how we got here and troubleshooting so things like this don't help in the future at a later date. i think that we need to address the issue more broad low this is the poster child of developments that have the commercial entitled but never occupied for way too long and harmful affects that has on the communities. so i'm here really to support

the continuance and thank the supervisor and his associates for their effort and the diligence i know they will continue to have in seeing that the commitments made are fwrut fruition. thank you very much. >> thank you. any other members in the chamber that would like to comment on this item? there are zero in the queue. >> thank you. public ment is now closed. and thank you mr. warshall for your kind words and many, many years of work on this. we will get there soonful vice chair stefani. >> thank you, i wanted to also thank former supervisor brown and her staff for their work on this as well. >> thank you xichl think this one spans 3 supervisors.

i think mayor breed when she was may be 4. i know tht mayor as supervisor was before trader joe's was in the picture trying to get a different grocery store at the time that fell through. and looking over at jim to see whether it is 4 ear 3. at least 3. we will get there and i'm pleased we are making progress here. before we vote to condition tall of the chair i want to thifrng my legislative aid and chief of staff kyle who has been working tireless low on this. and recognize his work. i will go ahead and move this item to continue. jot motion to continue.

vice chair stefani >> aye. >> member chan. >> aye. why chair preston. >> aye. why there are three aye's y. this motion passes. and call item 2. >> item 2 an ordinance adopting and impelementing knowing between the city of stan san francisco and the san francisco police officer's association effective july 1 of 23 through june 30 of 26. members who wish to comment should call 415-655-0001, access code: 2487 until you have been unmoud and you may begin your comments. thank you. >> thank you. this item is sponsored by the

mayor and i believe employee relation director artis graham from dhr will present on this item. the proposal in front you was agreed to by the city and police officer's association and are the foiled by the poa. we are asking for the board's approval of the agreement and we have appropriated a presentation for your consideration which art ith will present insure low. tentative agreement is as a result of bargaining sessions and ultimate low entered into by the fares with a professional

mediator. both parties felt we had an interest in achieving the agreement and sending the significant medical to the poa and the body politic at large we can work together. and some to terms and to do that early. in the budget process. it is a statement of our mutual interests, i believe in stabilizing our existing workforce and positioning the san francisco police department for rebuilding of ranks. those other goals we entered to in negotiations to stabilize and reestablish ourselves as a desirable employer in the law enforcement labor community. with that i will turn this over to director graham and will be here for questions. >> thank you. >> good morning. thank you for having us this morning. we are excited to bring to you

the details of our tentative agreement with the police officer's association and we you know are here to answer your scombes hope this is something you finds to something to support. >> will be my slide here. we will open with the first the charter factors. as you are aware the charter determines the factors we need to consider as a city and use when we bargain and negotiating with the various bargain units within the city. we use the >> thank you. the chart are factors to determine what are we electric to, chief? you will see that some include what are market force and conditions. when weigh pay employees the financial conscience of the city those are a few.

this slide here is our police recruitment and retention slide. you see in 2022, we started off with 2, 06 rate of speed the end of the year 1, 906. we lost a lot of receives to resignation. and we lost a few officers to retirement. retirements is something that you know we anticipate this will occur and people will retire had than i reach an age and years of service it happens. one thing that was unusual the high number of resignations. resignations are significant because they are not really something that happens historically in our police department. and it costs a deal of money for the city to train, prepare, et cetera we invest time and money into having our officers red to go out and protect us and so to have so many resignations

is something that is difficult for the city you see the population of our police department decline. you will notice that in the previous slide we had a hard time hiring police officers. observed this throughout the count rehiring police officers is more challenging of late. people are not interested in going in the industry. this is something this we are finding a challenge here as they are every where else in our community. in the bay area and national low. so, when you compare that to residence ignitions and the retirements you can sort of visual low see that 7.7% loss. this gives us detail on those resignations. we would expect to see in the

first year or 2 significant number. we don't find that alarming because you joined the police departmentful had a year or 2. and you are like okay this is in the for me that's not unusual what is unusual the big spikes at year 5 and 7. those are significant spikes in the resignation rate an officer gone through the academy and probationary period and started to do the work and now resigning. when we get in compensation slide this is is these other years we attempted to target with our longevity premiums to encourage people to stay longer through those periods. >> i mentioned before. the san francisco police department is in i compet willtive environment. the city is with the bay area

community. we found ourselves to be a mid rink payor. you see we are equal with berkeley. berkley is actively still in negotiations with their police officer's association. and we were below other cities lie fremonand san jose. one of the things we set out to do in this contract is to put nus a better position in this competitive landscape to compote for officers and in addition, to help us to attract new officers we made changes as well to how we compensatent row level officers. you may have heard that the city of al modea has gone all in and freeway to recruit more and paying a 75 thousand dollars signing bonus. we did not do anything like that in this contract. that is an extraordinary sum of money we will wait to see if it

works they have a small are department, the costs for them is much less. in addition, these others next slide the details of our agreement. in short t is i 10.75 wage increase the next 3 years. we do have delays in those increases by 6 and 12 months should the joint report show a defy cyst 300 million dollars or more. and in addition we have retention pay of 9% at 5, 7 and 8 yers. which again is trying to retain officers at the periods and also retain officers who are closer to the end of their careers so they don't retire as early and give them incentive to stick around longer. some left bit of things to

consider, are we did the 3 year term in the contract. we raised ourselves to be the highestent row level payer in the region example we think we hope that this contract will help stabilize our work pores and allow you to be competitive for reattracting and retaining police officers. you seat cost 25 million dollars innier one. 56 million dollars in 2, 84 million innier 3. 1% in compensation for this is 4.7 million dollars. as with all of our contracts in the city we do have impass procedures. in the charter. this gives you a sense had the procedures look like.

and in the event the parties don't reach a mutual agreement. thank you we are available for questions. >> thank you very much. director graham and your tome and thank you for your work on this and for the briefing to director i san. and graham. appreciate all the time spent with our office. i have questions and clarifications i think will be helpful. on this one of the last slides you just showed. explain the one percent is 4.7 million. is that an annual? that is that when you say 1.7. >> >> right. 1%. you say if the increase are 1%

higher or lower that has a value of 4 opinion search for the year or the contract >> in this year. a percent of the current amount of the contract that is 4.7 million dollars. >> got it, thank you. >> a couple, clarifications -- you have the comparison of the different jurisdictions. um -- has that been run including over time? it it is that does not include over time. and there is a level of over time an officer in the jurisdictions would receive this is a look at the base wage, longevity and post pay included in their contract >> do we know what the average over time pay. why in the san francisco. >> steve?

good morning. steve compensation director. we are so short staffed the over time is high for the police department. i believe when i ran the figures 20 thousand dollars in over time. and then there is 10 b over time when the police officers provide services such as patrolling union square that was 10 thousand dollars. again we don't put this in i survey that is more compensation it is associated with work performed it is in the additional for the same job that's why we don't incorporate those in surveys >> this is a discussion we had and sure it came up a lot in america negotiations over the high use of over time do you have a sense of -- the amount of over time a welcome thing?

by and large for when poa's at the table or is it a viewed as a problem they are trying torous? and part of this. i want to frip this from our conversations about this, a big part of the conversation around retention issues and what is driving the reduction in numbers. what makes the city competitive. certain for some officers than i consider the inin from additional over time to be a benefit. however, it is would like to points out the poa came to the department before we asked to change the structure and how over time works some members who were the newer members got

saddled with moreover time than the seniors who never had to do temperature everyoned an agreement with the department to ensure over time was distributed and would not be a burden on the new junior officers. >> i do think it would be helpful on the comparative with other jurisdictions if we electric at how san finish measures up against other areas would be good to seat extent the over time pay that the averages are. is had information optainable. or -- i assume it is public record. why it is harder saul rows are pub labored. we can get that. over time is comp republic in other jurisdictions they have the same staffing. we get moreover time 10 d we have more opportunity than other jurisdictions that's where you seat difference and ecpeople

enjoy over time it it is a benefit hahappened there is so much over time there is in the enough volunteers. what is a problem had it is mandatory and he people are forced to work that happened here. >> thank you. why another question on the over all costs and director. i don't know, when we met and asked the over all cost was over 3 years. we were told it was eighty-four million dollars? >> i was quite shock in the appropriating for this hear to look and realize it is double that. right. and i want to make, may be i'm wrong. but my understanding from the information presented here and may be you can clarify this. the increases in their listed

out by year and appear from what was presented that 84 million is the cost in year 3 that is in the the cumulative figure. can you clarify eighty-four i don't have the brick down 160 million. 25 opinion 7 million in year 1. and 84.7 million in year 3. overnight term of the contract you stated. 25 million innier one and 56 in 2 and 84 million in year 3. and that's why we gave that you 1% number to evaluate the 4.7.

>> and was this -- people make make in discussions and i just like -- when you are at the table and negotiating this was your assumption presented to us a month ago when we met the package value was 84 million dollars? or that it was. this seems like a pretty big difference and it is always possible the communication issue i want to get i sense of at the table and negotiating this. as stated in the report. i think it is probably just a difference and perhaps misunderstanding of the presentation itself. but the 84 million is the costs over 3 years we measure at this time same with every labor agreement.

this still, this is the disconnect had we talked about this a month ago as directorizen stated now we hear since yesterday see thanksgiving it is double. so. can you provide talk about linguistics here. there was condition fougz

temperature is as you said not question million over 3 years the cost in the third year is 84 million dollarsch so the way we cost those is year one spending 25 million dollars more than make no economic changes to the contract in the subupon kwent year we will pithat 25 million and additional increases. that's why it jumps to 56 million in year 3 we will pay the 56 million and additional increases this brings it up to 84 and builds each year. it is cumulative the numbers i assure you i was at the table the cost silent one we provided validated by the controller's office this has been accounted for apologies for that thirdier >> thank you for clarifying. i am alarmed by the cost but for

and -- sorry i see supervisor chan. go ahead. >> thank you. i think my understanding, too, though that retention pay is part of the whole significant part of the pending on the mou and it is retention pay for officers that in each next 8 years hit 5, 7 and 8 year. and so the retention piis also really not an actual it is an estimate. a prosecute jection of your assumption is this number of officers will hit 5, 6 and 7 year approximate 8 year in the next 3 years. am i'm saying if retention pay is a significant cost i'm seeing in the next 3 year in your

calculation of each. out of which -- i'm sort of going in between the, lateraling increase and significant cost versus this -- a cost estimate. and the goal is we do spends this money to retain the officers on the force at the 5, 6 and 7 and 8 year level. in the event we successfully retain all of them we will spends the maximum of these numbers. is nacorrect? >> correct. >> thank you. thank you supervisor chan. vice chair steph no. i want to say since we are here i'm not alarmed by the cost given the shortage we are going through and given what we need to do to get up to basics. i'm alarmed at the cost of not doing it and had that means for the city and want to put on for

the record i was not confused by the presentation or briefing employmented to state that on the record. thank you. >> thank you, supervisor stefani. if i may add chair preston to put it in plain language i apologize for confusion again. base wage increases are 10 opinion 75% over 3 in the first year the numbers divide in the 2 trufrns are identical to the entire city workforce is expecting for this fiscal year. no change there. in the second and third year of the agreement the wage increases are 3% each year in year 2, that significant low that wage increase come in the 6 mont mark. and so i think that supervisor chan is correct where the additional spends nothing this agreement come in in the retention pay goes to my comment about stabilizing our existing

workforce when director graham pointed out the numbers residence ignition and how unusual that is, the problem there is this we are losing mid career employees and the retention pay was designed to address that reality within the police department that we are losing officers who are entering the middle years of career and providing incentives to not switch police departments and not move but to stay here and the city to work with those officers and for us to realize the investment we made in them

early in their careers that is where the expense in this agreement come from. and supervisor, i will go back and look and make sure the way we explain it to this board is clear for everybody and the same terms. thank you. and looking at -- trying to get a handle on the cumulative impact of this on your typical officers. someone at the first 5 year the first, time retention increase kicks in, right. as i understand it there are basically 3 increases being layered on here. there is -- increase in the step in they have. right? i call step inflation or increase in moving them one step. this has a dollar value estimated here. there is the annual increase and there is for this 5 year officer a longevity increase give us a sense for that, say the 5 year mark if this is adopt when you add those up. what percent increase is that 5 year officer getting. >> sufrm taking a look at 5 year

officer there are 7 saul row steps in this the rank and file police officer they move a step a year. year 5 they are it is step 5 or 6 they get one more 5%. there are the 2 wage increases to 2 envelope and 2.25 this gets to you 975 with retention pay i believe we had the 3% there was an existing 2%. you are looking at 14.75% increase. again by meeting the thresholds 3 things. step increase. wage increase and the retention bonus. we hope that is retain that is also something we promote to increase our recruits. >> thank you for that clarification. it is 15% increase in that situation. so, you know i think this as -- supervisor chan pointed out and

i think as our discussions have indicated and your presentation, this is all based around an assumption this these increases will lead to greater retention and if done right cost savings. one thing i want to talk about public low, what we are basing the assumption the increases lead to greater retention and i think a lot of jurisdictions are trying different stuff am alameda say, do a big signing bonus. they are doing one big bonus. which is probably cheaper than when we are doing.

we are going all in the increases at year 5 and 7 and 8 will retain people. i think in our conversations what became clear to me is we don't have any idea or do exit introduce of officers leaving as to why they are leaving and why they are going and whether additional pay would have kept them there. the stuff this would make fee comfort. i know there are some anecdotal after the increase last year but what are we basing the sufrmgz this these increases are going

to result in greater retention and officers making decisions whether to stay based on in the amount of the annual increases. supervisor, the agreement would provide the police department with the tools to have tools to be able to retain officers considering making a move to another agency close to where they live and most certainly less changing. this is the most challenging yours to police. it is this is and similar to city employment this is graduate school and to have officers still with risk and challenges presented to be i popular in san

francisco money is important and we have to reapproximate suspicion or police department to be the leader in the bay your. people are noticing and our officers are noticing based on the turn out and voter approval the 10tive agreement. can we give you science whether this will work in no. can i tell you as somebody had worked you will my life and money merits and especially when you ask city employees to dot level of work and take risks and have the practices paying well matters. that's what is in front of you today. i didn't will say money matters. but i will say we are not

looking at relative it other jurisdictions at an under paid force and compared to other city employees we are not looking at under paid force and i don't think anybody would claim we are if we are doing this level of increases not just for this cycle. the annual increases men a factor. i ratification bonus may be a factor. may be other factors. housing is expensive people move and live near they work. that's a factor. challenges police nothing san francisco is i factor 91 changed. it is a pretty big loam to say essential low as a city and i don't know and would be

interested in your thoughts if this is a dh r function with their hr work the fact this we don't. i it is inconceivable it mow we don't garth data. we don't know whether someone leaving the police department goes to another police department we don't know had police department they go to. we don't know whether they go. nothing has been presented to us. going to a jurisdiction that pays more. why we do know. >> i had the -- so if there is data as to why people are leaving, through exit interviews. from dhr this is had we discussed and the oldsmobile piece of data was last year increases went in affect fewer people resigned. that was the piece of information provided what we

asked. things that would shed light on whether the increases will retin people. told this information was not gath erred. if you ever garthing this information, let's hear it. >> we may have failed to mention i am aware and we are aware this one of the insights the police department has is that when afternoon receive transfers to another jurisdiction they enter back grounds. part of being in backgrounds they alert the department where they come from the department conducts an investigation we had members of the command staff responsible for this function in the department who were aware there were a number of receives in backgrounds to transfer to other diameters. we had that circumstance it was

higher number. i don't want to give you fake numbers i believe there more in backgrounds when we first came it you in july of leftier or june to give them this contract increase. and then there were this time. we do believe that the increases we gave them left time were effective at retaining officers. whether or not the department does exit interviews that is for the department. choir preston i will let the cho know about data what they know from background. i will say that like to have 166 million dollars decision on the idea this investment is going to retain receive and base that on

no data showing that is a smart or productive way for us to spends if the goal is retention i get there to thes you got to improve retention this is sell row increase is always on the table. but that is different from actually tracking why people are leaving. where than i are going. right? and correlaing if people are leaving the department in search of increased wage and whether they would have stayed if they got the 10-15% increase. i'm in the saying it is irresidential this can be a factor but basing on anecdotes not data y. supervisor chan. thank you, i want to say i understand today we are looking

what is proposed we are looking at the mou. i want to say hasimilarly, i irrelevant want to see with this as a basis we have a successful police department moving forward this we can recruit successful low and retain our police officers successfully. and really making sure we have a functioning in healthy of the police department that provide law enforcement in the city of san francisco in the city. and so what i'm hoping though and i want to express i'm in support of approving this today. i look forward to seeing a conversation i will put my budget committee chair hat on for this minute to say i look forward to seeing hopeful low with your help direct along with your team and police

chief scott. i see that president mc crea from the police officer association here i want tok knowledge the presence of the president mc crea and say i look forward to having a productive conversation moving forward to see. i have questions about the success, too, of the retention bonus is this enough? i love to understand the recruitment strategy. i think that for the most part in my opinion, too, public servants working it is i difficult job. first responders difficult job putting your life on the line. your family the person in your family on the line you are putting your family on the line it is not motivated by money. what else can the city do to work together to say, what else can we do chief scott has mitted

reform. how do we move this forward to recruit police officers that will be just share that reform minds set moving forward and i'm interested in learning about trin and mental health benefits and services to the first respond in this case the police officers. giving the fact we have seen over time, over spending on over time. it is in the just about the money butt fact that when police officers really any worker when you are over just [inaudible] increase it credits dangerous working environment for the police officer and it is mount in general at large. how do we trael is in the just about money. the look at this mou and the program teris wings and about terms and condition this is is very specific. so when i'm talking about is

beyond this and that's when i'm trying to articulate. i understand and i'm supportive but i hope we continue to have a conversation productive low moving forward that is beyond mou and to look at recruitment, retention and train and mental health services. thank you. why thank you supervisor chan. vice chair stefani. thank you, chair preston i want to thank you for her years of experience doing these negotiations. any the basic tenant when you pay people more they are like low to dot job. you could not pay me enough to do this job would not be enough for mow to leave my house and possible low get shot at and not get home. could not pimow enough am having seen a lot of contracts negotiated and discussions over this not just police or fire but

all contract this is is a basic tenant in huwe recruit and retain people. i think when people have monteis hard to understand that why money motivates as to be able to pia mortgage and pay our kids education. take care of aging parent and do the things and take a verification and retire comfortably. these all go in this. i want to say because i don't continuing it is anecdotal how we evaluate where people are leaving it is a very role thing happening. there is a list of people or people are interviewed when they leave. there are exit interviews. documented where people are going i don't know if you have that in the audience i would like to know that. i want to correct this idea this this is just willy-nilly. you somehow got in a room and

decide. i know more went into this the fact that officers leave for better pay and cheaper house and morale. money does help and i said, i think it should be more. i think this contract should be higher. i wanted to about whether or not we keep records of where people go? >> supervisor stefani, thank you, again. i will be in touch directly with chief scott who is in the present here. and provide your office and the offices of all the supervisors with the information that we can access. i would echo your sentiments i think this it is a deliberative green light that we entered into after lengthy discussion and

assistance of a mead your. and would welcome a conversation with supervisor chan and any forum that you would like to help create to talk about the relative well being and health of our police department and the steps we are all in to try to make it a good employ exert attractive. and make sure the working conscience the officers have are safe and healthys they can be. i appreciate the comments from you. thank you. thank you director. and i think that if that data exists we have been asking for it for more then and there a month. if it exists grit. if cho scott and the department can forward this to the burden that would be helpful. i do say procedurally, we were

this a normal situation as chair i would continue this to get that information understands we have because of the nature of the mou we have pretty strict guidelines around getting a vote on this. i wanted to get those on the referred my officers despite occurrence calendared this at the earliest opportunity to stay on electronic to have a vote i believe folks have different vow its is importance this deserves a vet. can you clarify the time any continueness would bump this to drillinger the agreement moot it would go to arbitration. is this right?

>> yes. we are on a schedule if the board were to vote down this agreement we need time to engage in the impass floers is why it is coming to you early in our cycle and we are hoping you pass it out to the full board for consideration next week. got it. >> thank you. i really want to encourage if this information that vice chair stefani refers to exists grit to ghet to all members before a vote. why don't we go to public comment. thank you, mr. chair. anyone withhold like to comment for item 2? lineup to your right. remote members press star 3. for those on hold continue to wait until you are unmuted.

you may approach podium. >> good morning chair pest preston, steph no and chan. i'm randall scott for the wharf benefit district. i'm here in support i work in public safety for 10 years. in the 10 years the pd ranks shrunk. everyone notices that. this mou is a bandaid. it is to stop hemorrhaing of lots of officers one this went to elbunkhamo, san antonio, tennessee and florida, personal low. there are some of yours the bottom line is -- our officers in order to stay need to feel

appreciated. because i feel sometimes from what i hear from rank and foil this is straight person to person contact. they feel the city does not appreciate them or have their back. i think this mou would send a clear message that the city values when they are. and had they do. and that would help retain more officers. i realize this is expensive but not just a budgetary concern it is a pr concern. we want to attract people to the city. we need to bolster our operations the backbone is pd. we do a lot. backbone is sfpd. why thank you. >> next speaker, please. supervisors good morning i'm alex the president of the hotel council of san francisco. i'm here i'm in support mou.

i want to share thoughts why. you know i worked as prosecutor in san francisco and saw many leave the office to santa clara and other jurisdictions that paid better and often we see people leave the investments were made in this individual. 3-5 years 7 years. and when we saw is that the people we made investment in benefit other jurisdictions the best people we had left the office over the years approximate many of us are passionate about san francisco and i know many of the people that left were approximationate about san francisco but than i have families, health care needs issue reasoning why they went. and we understand this. but i think it is upon us to the do the right things the decisions we make matter and change morale.

officer recruitment and retention. i think that is a big part of not the only thing but a big part of being able to attract business to the city and travellers to the city increases the tax base. we are experiencing a moment in our city's history now and we need to work together to ensurety right decision are need have the tax base grow and the city shine. thank you very much. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> good morning chair preston, vice chair stefani and supervisor chan. to your comments early tler is a list i work with my counterparts at the recruitment and staffing at the police department. i seen this list. i see the roles when people leave, there are exit interviews. like the gentlemen said, he

knows of people who left i knew every one of the 150 receives that left. grand prairie, texas got 6. daly city. concord. you know santa clara. if we were to compote with santa clara your head would explode we need a 50% pay raise. it is being competable and getting the best. everybody wants the best today. you know. i'm the only full time relief person at the poa i would love for my vice president, board members and sergeants of arms to be released, we can't ford it they gotta go work. like when you have marathon session this is last in the night you were here for 12-14 hours how would you foal to do that every day. and mandateed come become on your days off can do another 16 hours. unfortunately you have heinous

crimes happening in your district while i sit here there is a man with a machete 4 blocks away ready to attack you want someone to respond and not take 10 minutes. this mou could have been more but we catime an agreement and want to retain people here and want people to not commute an hour each way after working 8 hours a day. again, this is what it is. >> thank you. >> other members of public in the chamber that would like to comment on this item? we will go to the call line we have 8 callers with 5 in the queue. may i have the first caller? >> good morning i'm stefani i'm calling to support officer pay

and retention. people of san francisco made it clear this we cherish and value our police officers. we want them protect exclude respectd and ford to live in the neighborhoods than i protect and serve so they can be pips in the fabric of the communities. like all professionals our trained police officers deserve to be compensated for work and this does this. we cannot ford to lose more receives as a result of the ill thought out policy of the board and the police commissioners your policy decisions are dibilltating the pd. if you want it to be more about money appoint people to the commission who don't hate the

police. take this one and support this mou. thank you. >> thank you for sharing your comments. next speaker, please. >> good morning i'm jowlia i'm representing the travel association. i'm here to voice support for the mou. visitors from leisure and businesses around the world are clean streets and public safety in san francisco. the low staffing levels are roaching a crisis level. leaves our city and those live and visiting risk for crimes. pd is facing the same challenge as many police departments in the country row they are unable to fill approximate suspicions rate of speed are recruited elsewhere. inability to recruit brought us to this moment. structure of the condition tract is built to retain rate of speed.

we believe approve thanksgiving package we will redrought and retain offering the competitive pay in california. support this contract and help to restore san francisco's question enhancing public safety and safety will be met when manage to san francisco. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. next next speaker, please >> good afternoon board this is mary. i want to echo the support of many for the this mou and in fact i would go fourth in supporting our police. we are in a state of crisis every day there is something new happening on the streets. we need the support of our police. we are several handled if i

believe like 600 police officers down and another 4-500 eligible for retirement in the next 18 months we are at the point of crisis. we must support the retention and staffing. and let them know we appreciate them and want them and need to end this defunds the police mentality. >> thank you. next speaker, please. i'm jan diamond i'm here this fully support this mou. i appreciate supervisor stefani saying he is not alarmed by the cost but is alarmed the can have the of when will help if we don't do it. listen to everybody who is talking today. everybody wants to support the police. everybody is tired of the police getting short shift and getting

insulted on the street it is. need to show them when we want to keep them and -- give them the respect they deserve. of course, money counts we need this, please, support it. thank you for your time. >> thank you for sharing your comments. next speaker, please. david pilpel. good morning i'm not expressing a strong vow on the mou here. it comicated and expensive but prebl necessary i lean toward support given the factors i note today's agenda does not energy is as a committee report i'm unsure if can go to the board meeting on next tuesday the 11th it is likely for the 18th unless someone is explain.

and as an ordinance it needs 2 readings and the mir and dhr explained timing can important here in the everyone the board does not support the item. wanted to raise occurrence. thank you. next speaker, please.

i'm jennifer i'm a residents of d2 and calling to support mou. i heard supervisor stefani indicating her support for the mou and i agree. have residents fearful of take the bus or walking because of crime and the police officers have a lot to do with the lack of other service support. the little we do is provide them the support they need and they have a tough job and support the mou. thank you. >> we have 10 callers listening if you are comment on this item dial star 3 now. check this. there are no additional callers for this item. thank you. public comment on this item is closed. thank you to all the members of public. who call in the and showed up to spoke on this. i had one more question for dhr, on the issue of were there any letters or commitments from the department around reforms policy against pretext stops or others? >> so supervisor, those policies are handled by the police

commission and taken care of through the department and not in the mou we did not address that. and there have been times in the past there have been side letter this is run with this process, i understand may be limited around dhr to require this. i want to clarify whether there are any commitments outside of e mou i don't are looking at. around any reforms y. i'm sure that would be a question for the dppt they can address that issue in general ords and what refurthermore forms they entered and negotiated with the poa combht police commission. nothing impacted by this approval. >> nothing. >> thank you. so i want to thank again everyone at dhr for w on this

and a whole series of all the various mou's negotiate today is a ton of work i appreciate temperature i think i think there is a general spirit and approach brought to the d. trying to work with organizationed labor and resolve these without arbitration which is a positive thing. it does mean sometimes that some agreements as being asked to approve them leaves mow in the position of wondering could -- how hard do we negotiate on this. could we have negotiated harder? and you know and case that make sense to you know to -- do this through the more amicable agreement process opposed to the arbitration route. i am left wondering the second year in a row i feel like last

year the issue lack of using the bargaining power with the poa to push harder for concessions and things i think that in a negotiation we can be more creative about and we hear there are not important reforms. party on the other sends is in mote and conifer on pretext stop policy the biggest thing the city could do to decrease racial desparities and law enforcement. so i see it as a missed opportunity. i think in terms of the amounts and increases i think the city irrelevant one upped itself from left year with concessions around as i mentioned wage increases the step, longevity

increases are theification bonuses and a host of other smiments and i have reviewed last year's all the different mou's i don't recall any other that gives away this mucheen for departments that are under staffed like dpw and mta and muni you make the arguments with the increases men they have a job at recruitment but don't see those increases for any other departments. and i think as i said before when is more concerning the lack of data associated with the massive commitments the city is taking a gamble the tune of 166 million dollars over the next 3 years.

i do this had the anywhere is facing budget and cuts to program exactlies departments i look at 166 million dollars in investment and increases in time we have food programs cut. i have people in my district who you know a sick00 dollar check the difference whether they feed their family in the next among or a food program is open. those other stakes that is not the responsibility to the poa they can add haveicate for member's interests. but for us it weos mow and hope on colleagues. i will say i know well are difference of opinion on the committee and the board. on some of the issues i think it is worth the conversation at the full board i'm interested in colleagues.

my approach as we did left year if amenable to move this forward. i want to respect the process. move this forward but to forward it without recommendation. to give us space to get further information and have conversations we want at the board before folks vote this is my proposal and interested in when colleagues think. voice chair stefani. thank you. i'm appropriateed move this forward with recommendation. and i would like to make that motion but if it needs to go out without recommendation that is what has to hatch i want it noted that i want today to go to the full burden with recommendation i'm in full support of this contract. i want to thank carolizen, the director and director graham and the poa tric and he everyone who worked hard on this contract and

want to thank our chief of police for all of the work he has been on reforms. that gets lost on how much san francisco has done the idea we need to negotiate those in the contract. i think it makes it working on reform and i don't think this is true. based on my experience and when i learned and the hearings i attended and knowing this this crisis in staffing contributes to the difficult job of refurthermore when you have receives you have to be on the street and working on reform its make its more difficult. i have to be honest, i am very anxiety row where we are as a city in terms of policing. and i do not understand why

people don't take the number that chief scott has said and based on a furthermore lawe agreed to based on demand for service and culls to finely 11 and based how the calls are allocated priority ab and c. why this number is 500 to sick00 police officers short is not having nerve a war room 24/7 how the hell do we make that up quickly? not over 2-4 years how do we fix it now? and this is a start. i right now one of my doctor friends system and the hospital left notice in the marina he was attacked boy air homeless person with a metal pipe his mom called to the house there were homeless people that would not leave and doing drugs. not acceptable i hope we have

not got to the level where that is acceptable and can't do anything about it. when he tried to address the police were not something it is priority c. we are 55 officers short in northern station that is a real thing. my friends who tried deal with it got the shirt kicked oup out of him last night and might need brain surgery. a fractured skull. broken jaw and faith stitched up he got beat up with a metal pipe. his cyst in law is my daughter's eighth grade teacher i heard about it from her in anni male it is in the me fear amongering all the things that are said this is what is irrelevant happening. i have been here 21 years. this did not used to happen. i believe it it is a direct result the fact we don't have

enough officers on our street. i'm not an idiot i get it. i am so anxiety row that we don't have the attention to this i think we need. bob lee the other night and you can't talk about that how dare you capitol iesz. you know had that sounds like the nra telling mow i can't talk about a mass shooting the next day and say we have to do somethings about temperature i'm tired television. i have a letter if an 82 year old man that went out to all of us the other day. president supervisor peskin and i went to the machine's house in the day in the mirna on jefferson wrote to all of us i will not read it i was going to which he was jumped by 6 people in the day near the pals of fine arts i begged for xr receives we had 3 arm robberies of wedding photographs that goes all over the new instead world and this

machine we went to visit, kwo, jumped by 6 people broke a nose. bruised and saying to mow what more can be done? i have to tell mealhim we are 500 mrfrs short and sounds like excuses to my constituents and i get it and get why they are angry this . contract is a start. yes, money motivated and the director knows when she is doing. poa knowing what officers want and knowing what works within their professional they know. people love san francisco export to work here when i grut friday st. mayorys in 1991 i had so many friend this is wanted to be popular in san francisco because they lost city they could in the get in the academy there was a wait list. my friends said another time i missed the academy. there 50 in the academy the last

graduating class was 12 not just a problem of pay it is morale and the way we treat and talk about our police officers and does in the money we can't talk about what happened with george floyd and need better policing but the basics are not being met in the city i will never stop saying no matter what people say. the basics are not being met this contract is i start. i don't think it it is enough i'm impressed the poa agreed to this. i'm thrilled we came to some type of agreement. i know i talked to enough rink and foil and friends mertoed police officer this is is not something i do. i live this. i want to be grateful to those that negotiated and the rank and foil who every day and

supervisor furry said this. every day they this is a dangerous job you said i don't know they have this this is a different type of job.

those other stations that cover district 2. i'm grateful to them and others are grill to them and supervisor engardio says we need to change the conversation how we talk about police officers in the city. there are so many incredible ones that want to do the right things and thank the once that are staying this condition transact is a start. i think we should be documenting how many police officers we are hire and how many leave to hit this number like a capitol campaign when do we get to 500 i believe we need 500 nerve my district believes we need to hit this number. we need it hit the number based how we evaluate how many officers we need. the basic and nothing else is going to change for the better until people feel safe i will keep saying it over and over. i want this contract to go out of this committee to the full board with recommendation. >> thank you, vice chair

stefani. and i will resist temptation to ponds to a lot of the issues raised. i'm of all the prior supervisors i'm surpriseed hear supervisor furor quoted in this context. let me say this. i think that dollar is a disagreement among mark for identification nus leadership in the city whether the statement that crimes horrible crimes are nots the dispout whether that is the case and spending 160 million dollars more on police as opposed to the city invest nothing violent prevention and

props to crime will make people safer. we have different reduce the mart investments to get there. we have approved 50 million dollars increase left year to the police department. a 25 million dollars supplemental the other week for what appears to unlimited over time now 166 million dollars package before us. i challenge those who champion this as manage that will ruse crime in the city. like at what point if this is in the enough and the desire it is to spends more. what point do we recognize approximate that this is in the about crime reduction or prevention there is i policy discussion that talk about please retention and and -- what the right amount of funding is. this idea that even ab7 data

we'll 3 unlimited amounts. it is in the working. it has not worked i'm certainly concerned about the size of this package. i am in the appropriateed support it with recommendation. i prefer to sends it without recommendation and have folks make up their minds at the board. we have city attorneymented to provide guidance i move we sends it to the board without recommendation. there men a pending motion. >> pardon i believe that vice chair stefani made the motion. where we have a pending motion with recommendation. >> and that needs to voted of call the roll. >> thank you. on the motion to recommend the full board with positive recommendation voice chair steph no. why aye yoch member chan.

>> aye. >> chair preston. >> no. >> there are 2 aye's with one no chair preston voting no. >> thank you that motion passes. and to answer the caller's comment no this was not requested to be a committee report for a procedural reason this will anticipate be on our agenda a week from tuesday. >> i'm seeing someone -- chair preston. supervisors, we did in our submittal memo request this to be agendized a committee report. we will look into this we can't change that at this point. >> all right. thank you so that motion pass and we can conifer with you regarding the scheduling.

>> thank you. any further -- items before the committee >> no further matters. >> thank you. we are adjourned. in fire prevention. i'm very happy at fire prevention ca