>> we'll start off, if you're able please rise so we can do the "pledge of allegiance". >> i pledge laoej ans to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it tansed, one nation, under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> we will begin with roll call. >> thank you, hello everyone. welcome to our april 12, 2023 meeting.

we are so excited to see all the beautiful faces in the audience today. so we're going to start with taking roll and get this started. commissioner benedicto. >> present. >> commissioner yanez is joining us virtually. commissioner yanez can you hear us? >> now, i can thank you, present. >> thank you commissioner yanez. commissioner byrne? >> here. >> commissioner byrne is here. commissioner yee. >> here. >> vice president carter oberstone? >> present. >> and president elias is here. and also from the department of police accountability, chief of staff, diana and we also from the san francisco police department, chief william scott. >> thank you, can we start with the first jaepd item please.

>> yes, line item one, weekly offer presentation certificate. presentation of an officer who has gone above and beyond. and to present, we have captain martin from southern station. >> hello captain, welcome. >> hello police commissioners, thank you for having us. chief scott, ladies and gentlemen and all distinguished members of the sfpl. nice to see you guys. thank you for allowing us to recognize a few officers for all the outstanding work that they do. i'm going to highlight one specific case but these officers on a daily basis go beyond the call of duty. this happened on march 14th at about 6:35 p.m. on treasure lie and.

officers worked the switch here in southern station. they're both extremely hard working veteran officers who are respected by their peers and officers. assigned to treasure island sector and officer times, works sector cars on the mainland in southern station. also a field training officer who regularly trains all of our new officers coming out of the academy. at the time of this incident, both officers were assigned to the respective duties, officer enson was trolling yerba buena. there was a shooting report and a vehicle description was broadcasted along with description of suspects.

as the vehicle approached treasure island, there was more information that the suspect was fleeing the vehicle pulled over at the side of the bridge and they were seeing carrying handguns. officer respond today that area with the vehicle was last seen on bay bridge as officer times and others responded from the mainland. subsequent information revealed that a shooting had not actually occured but the suspects were in fact armed with handguns. officer i objectson responded to the area where the vehicle was and figured the most likely area where the suspect could have been located hiding near a storm drain. nobody that there was a good chance that the suspects would flee this area if he tried to make an arrest, he coordinate withed officers that were a priefg from the mainland to the most likely area where the suspects would flee from the area once he moved on.

after coordinating the efforts, officer moved in and like he suspected, the suspect took off running up a hillside into waiting officers that were coordinated from officer ebbson. officer times was one of those officers that was able to take all suspects into custody without any injuries. the officers continued their investigation and retraced the steps of the suspect which lead them to the storm drain. officer times was able to locate two loaded handguns that were hidden in the storm drain. the officer also recovered the suspect vehicle which matched the vehicle of a vehicle that was involved in a separate shooting in the northern district. so because of these two officers, vigilant and quick

actions, three suspects, two firearms were taken off the city streets of san francisco safely without anyone injured. this is just an exam pfl great work that these officers do on a daily basis and i thank you for recognizing this tonight. [applause]er >> thank you, captain i think before the chief comes out to take photos, i would like to give an opportunity for either officer to give remarks. >> thank you very much. as the captain was saying this was a team effort and a lot of people responded. i'm thankful that we had officers come help and field officers that supported us. this is very unexpected but thank you very much, much appreciated.

>> i just echo officer, that whole incident was really a team effort there was a lot of people involved but thank you for the recognition examine it's really appreciated. >> thank you for your service, we know that southern station is one of our busier station. so i'm sure there are other other several incidents and calls that you have responded that deserves as much praise as this one. commissioner benedicto. >> thank you, officers it sounds like it was really excellent work. i think a couple of things i want today highlight is our second of start thising tradition and what we're seeing is the public does not always see is the variety of calls that the officers are kaultd for. whether it's a stuffed animal

last year or finding guns. thank you for responding so well, when hearing the description of the incident, you know, it's always great that we can have incidents that end with no injuries to the officer and members toft public and members. and it sounds like you acted strategically in thinking where to place that back up to prevent something from escalating out of control. that's what we want to see. i know that a big hallmark of our department's train ising our critical mind set response training and it sounds like all the tenants of that training were present in the actions you took, thank you. >> chief, commissioner yee? >> thank you very much there

president elias. and to the outstanding officers that put their life at-risk every day and to the staff and membership and keeping us safe in the city. i know it was probably a difficult situation because on the bridge, that's a no-man's land. never been out there looking for suspects. so you want to thank you all for you two officers putting your life out there and carrying, actually three of the suspects and taking out the happened guns, the handguns once fired, the bullet does not come back. it goes out to where it's meant to be. very thankful for this without any injuries and loss of life. thank you very much.

>> chief?

>> line item 2, san francisco police activity lead sf pal presentation of certificates of pal members from sfpd. we have. >> thank you, members of the commission, president, director, i was expecting direct henderson and chief scott, it's an honor. i'm the acting commander of the community division. one of the programs that our

unit over is the p.a.l. work withing the youth since 1959 serving thousands of participants over the years including myself. tonight we're going to honor two members, sophia woods who participates in the cadet program who unfortunately cannot be here. and also maleki high tower who participates in our athlete activities. the core values of the pal program. we also want to congratulate the 4th and 5th grade boys for winning this year's championship and there they are as well. [applause] >> should we get them to come to the podium so we can see them on camera. >> i was going to say a few more things. >> i was giving you back up, you need your team behind you.

[applause] there we go. [applause] we need you all on camera. >> before presenting the awards, i would like to acknowledge some people. first chief scott he has been dedicated in supporting the prm. thank you, chief. also the pal board members who give their time and stay true to the mission of the program. and those that run the program on a daily basis. mike officer mike costelo and officer mike swing. these people they're the backbone of this program, activities and coaching the kids on a daily basis. at this time i'm going to introduce retired rick bruce police has been part of the

board since 1997, so he has been doing this for sometime. he has mentors many kids and still coaching a flag football team. >> hello. >> thank you commander. first of all, thank you commissioners so much for allowing our kids to come up here and be recognized. it's important to them and to us. i want today recognize chief scott also. : as already stated i've been on the board for 26 years and i can tell you that chief scott has been so supportive of this program and chief thank you so much for your support. we've got command staff members here who have been on the board of directors and i can tell you that the support provoided to us has been monumental. going to tell you a quick story you may have heard it from me but it's more relevant today. in 1959, there was a

12-year-old little boy kentucky who approached officer martin and said his bike had just been stolen. and he said he was going to go whoop the bullies and officer mark said, you cannot do that but if you come downtown, i'll teach you how to box. that boy won 6 consecutive titles and in 1960 qualified for the olympic team and rome, we knew him at the time as cash clay and in his corner for every bought and rome was this old cop in from louie ville kentucky martin. they remain clothes friends for all of their lives and mohamed ali who stayed active until he

passed away. and stayed close to officer martin until martin passed away. the reason i tell you that story, it illustrates what police can do in terms of ment organize kids. that was one of the greatest relationship in american history and when these officers are doing here, is a continuation of that. and i can tell you that a child that gets to know a police officer as a coach and as a mentor, never looks at police officer the same way. and by the same token the officers who get to know the kids, they interact differently when they go out in the community. that's why we're here and that's why we continue to be here and we really appreciate the fact that you're recognizing these kids tonight. i would like to call up, malakie hightower. [applause]

>> commissioners this is a very very old tradition that we lost somewhere along the way. if you grew up in san francisco in the 50s and 60s you know there was a pol girls, and our first boy is malaki and being recognized for his hard work and dedication and sportsmanship. congratulations malaki. and also officer sweeny is now going to come up and introduce our basketball players.

>> thank you very much for having us, it's been a pleasure coaching these kids, our fourth graders had an undefeated season and post season for the championship and then our 5th graders had a loss in the regular season to st. cecelia and then got revenge in the playoff and knocked them off, so these kids make my job very easy and the credit goes to them and not to the coaches. congratulations again. first is up fourth grader jaidyn. [applause] fourth grader santino sorako. [applause] furth grader david hernandez. [applause]

fourth grader derek mullins. [applause] fourth grader dean lee. [applause] foughtinger grader ren schmidt. mra*ulz --[applause] fourth grader owen morales. [applause] fourth grader, reed garachi. [applause] not quite. fourth grader dario meracciti. [applause] fifth grader malaki hightower. [applause] fifth grader daniel mullins. [applause]

fifth grader, wallace conway. [applause] fifth grader, angus f a ng. [applause] fifth grader tray kestomo. [applause] fifth grader kyle heard. [applause] and last but not least, fifth grader sean heard. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you, you don't get to leave us just yet. mr. malaki high independent tower congratulations on your award. do you want to step forward and say a few words. no, okay. i also think that we should

stand and mom, dads, guardians parents of these wonderful children, because without them taking them to practices and coordinating everything, i think they're a huge piece of this puzzle. so we need to turn around and say thank you to mom and dad and guardians. give them a big round of applause. and you are now on government tv, so you can all see yourselves tomorrow on the play back. so before we get you g i'm going to turn it over to the chief to give some words and then my fellow commissioners. >> thank you, president elias and you beat me to the punch. i was going to say thank you to all the parents. we know how difficult it is to juggle and all the responsibilities, thank you for being in your lives and the lives of your young men. it's important to us and it

means just as much to us as it means to you all. thank you very much. >> i just wanted to say thank you for all the participants and congratulations on your win. it was an amazing experience, they had a wonderful time. it's absolutely free to participate for all the kids and it's an amazing program. so i want today thank the police department and the parents for showing up, i know, it's not easy. thank you kids for participating. i know you had a good time. thank you. >> thank you.

>> mr. lee. >> thank you, is participated in the pal, i guess a change for me and really connect me to activities outside, you know in my community and opened up my eyes and always had the respect for the police officers who came out and gave their time and helped the community. so again congratulations to all that are here. and the parents and your kids that are here to celebrate this day. i think we should make this a pal day. can we do that? so again, thank you again. and maybe next year, we'll see you again. thank you very much. [applause] >> commissioner byrne. >> thank you, president elias. as somebody who also participated in pal a long time

when it first started, it was a great experience because they used to put the baseball box scores in the sunday paper but they never looked good after my name. but it was an honor to be in the nape. and would i like to briefly, what schools do you go to if you can start on the left. what school? okay, what school do you go to? okay. [indiscernible] okay. >> st. anthony. >> garfield elemented re. >> marshal elementary. >> very good. >> miss school. >> miss school. >> elementary. >> st. anthony's. >> thank you. well done, well done fellows, thank you. [applause]

?*. >> and captain if you would like to come back, it's a much nicer crowd than we normally get. [laughter] >> can you send the invitation to the commission staff and post it and let all the commissioners know and put it on our calendar. thank you all, thank you for being here. it was good to see you and i hope to see you again. [applause] >> one more photo op. can they do it in here. >> where ever you want.

>> one, two. one, two, three.

>> thank you guys. bye. >> bye. >> if you would like to make public comment, regarding line item 2, please approach the podium. >> thank you. >> you can stick around for the rest of the report, we usually get out by 9:00 or 10:00 but i'll make it early tonight.

>> thank you. >> and president elias, it looks like there is no public comment. >> great next item, please. >> clerk: line item 3, pardon me, before i introduce the next line item i need to make an announcement. line item 10, regarding d g.o. 7.03 has been pulled and rescheduled at a later time. next line item is 3, general public comment. the public is now welcomed to address the commission on items that do not appear on the agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or dpa personnel. under police department, commissioners or police department are not required to respond but may provide a brief response. individuals commissioners and

police and dpa personnel should reframe from entering into any debate or discussion with speakers during public comment. if you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. >> speaker: hello, i would like to use the overhead. this is my son, aubrey. he was murdered, his birthday just passed, april 6th. i was up at the gravesite putting flowers at the grave and looking at the temporary headstone.

i see all of these kids here, sxifs thinking about my little boy when he played. my grandchildren go to new tradition. my son played basketball for the rebels at the boys and girls club. so when i see these young men that are here, i know the parents that are here too for the one the one that won the big reward they go to my church. but just to see this brings back memories for me. i only not only fight for my son, there is other homicides case that's are not solved. this is me standing over my son, this is what they left me with to remember. i still need justice for my child, findings other way to see solve these unsolved homicides.

this is my son's face. after the autopsy, decaying on the table, this is what they left me with and if i don't talk about it and let you see it, you'll know how i feel. i feel for those young children that were here too, i hope nothing happens to them. protect them, protect those young kids. we never know. just like that. >> the jux deposition of those, is hard to follow. we heard a 55 presentation from

one of the commissioners on a three commissioner meeting with command staff in order to hear command staffs quote views and concerns on certain issues around police commission. commissioner carter oberstone reported that there were different views, but we were not told what the views are, of the three commissioners who attended that session and the four who did not and the views of the committee staff. as disturbing as that is, in terms of lack of transparency was the declaration by carter oberstone that point agreement was never the point. which is the locust of drug market. but i see nothing in the city charter, that commands such a

duelistic approach. should we not narrow the differences rather than declaring them ir reconcilable. they noted the different views on the commission's role in our system of governorance. but the end this commission's role in discipline is not clear what that role is. section 1.4022 requires a current statement of purpose which i do not see on the website of this commission. that's statement of purpose calls for outlining jurisdiction, authority, purpose and goals which is seems to me in this context of what i just covered is entire three appropriate and necessary. this illustrates in purpose of transparency on the statements and positions of these commissioners [lost audio] >> thank you, sir. thank you.

>> commission thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak. this is like the fourth or city meeting that i've attended so i'm taking every opportunity to speak to bring some of my childrens, i live in the corner not too far from here about 4 blocks and there is traffic there 24 hours a day 7 days a week. year after year and these are big cars, i don't know if they have modified engines or what kind of vehicles they are. but they're passing by there pretty fast and some are missing stop signs, they're very loud and vibrating the floors and i think this is something that is going on in the corner that is happening anywhere in the city and they

may be targeting me personally for whatever purpose, i'm not sure but i'll be really like happy if we got down to the bottom of it. this is 13 years later. first year it happened, second year, third and tenth year you're saying maybe i'm a really important word and i can save the world but this is 2023 and it still goes on. i don't understand why? they say something we want to give you, some day we're making sure that we kept it alive until we were able to use you. are they up in the sky? are they up in the moon, so you guys. this is the police commission, this is a very serious body. you see what is going on, it's no secret.

that's all i have for now. thank you very much for your time, okay. >> i believe that concludes public comment. >> next item please. >> line item number 4, consent calendar receive and file action. police commission report of disciplinary action first quarter 2023, quarter report through the commission regarding status and results of disciplinary matters heard before the commission. >> motion received and filed. >> can i get a second. >> i'll second it. >> if you would like to make public comment regarding line item 4, please step to the podium. >> president elias, there is no

public comment. >> thank you, next item. >> line item 5, chief's reporttioner discussion weekly crime trends and public safety concerns providing an overview of offenses, incidents or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities achieved describes will be limited whether to calendar for a future meeting. chief scott. >> thank you, sergeant reynolds. and commissioners and oberstone. we are 0% change for shooting victims. so that is the better news to report in the weeks past and hopefully we can keep going in that direction. in terms of the significant and

property crimes, one of the significant note, although with 3% up and total in violent crimes and 11 percent down can property crimes which is driving a 10% reduction in our total part 1 crimes. as far as the incidents for this week to report, i reported on the 400 block of main street last week but it actually happened in this reporting period, and that was the homicide of mr. robert lee. still working tirelessly on that case and as significant developments arise, we will, we're not prepared to say anything at this point because there is a lot of moving parts in this investigation but we'll make any appropriate announcements and progress on this case if and when it happens. there was also the prior week of homicide and tenderloin that i talked about last week and that investigation is on going as well as well as any of the

unsolvedle for 2023. we have a total of 13 homicides year to date and our clearance rate is 85% for our homicides. there were three shootings to report this reporting period. the first one was on the 100 block that happened on april 5th a the 6:30-7 p.m., the victim was outside of his house. the victim went inside and his mother called 9-1-1. a witness who was a relative of the victim thought we were point ball rounds. the victim and his associates were outside shooting paint balls when this incident was occured. information was developed making two suspects and detained about nine minutes later. further investigation is being conducted on the two suspects who were detained and we will make progress made when it's resolved.

at april 8th, at 2:24 am, two victims were walking to the store when they heard one shot. one victim realized that she was shot and called 9-1-1. the second victim was not injured. four additional victims were asleep at home when the shooting occured. the victim three was injured from debris falling into her face. another three victims were not injured. that investigation is still on going. the third shooting was in the 500 block of mace ob in the central district. this happened on april 8th at 455 am, the victim was walking these when they punished and shoot him. when the victim tried to defend him, they took out a gun and shot him. the victim was transported and was list inside serious

continue but is expected to survive at this time. there was video footage showing the incident and the suspect and that, information is being followed up on at this time, there are no arrests. notable residential burglary occured in the 600 block of on april 59ing, officers were dispatched to a burglary incident found that a subject was being held down by several people. the victim advised when he returned home he found the subject inside his home put ing a property inside a backpack. the resident left the backpack behind. several people came to the aid of the victim. determined that the individual was a suspect who had entered the victim's resident and of another hot prowler that occured and an arrest was made in that case.

there was also an arrest, robbery with a gun and a knife, this occured on april third at 5:30 p.m. at could i tower. the victim a visiting tourist was a court tower. the victim was not sure if the gun was real at which time the subject produced a knife. responding officers saw running away. the victim later positively ided the subject. the subject later identified by china town as a person who had committed at least one robbery in the china town area during the last year. and this individual was arrested for both of those incidents. an assault with a dead' weapon occured on april 5th at 7:05 p.m. laguna and lumbar, northern officers responded to

the area of lumbar and laguna regarding an assault with a deadly weapon. matched the description given by dispatch. also located the victim who was suffering from multiple facial injuries. the victim was transported to the hospital and treated for non life threatening injuries. and the investigation revealed that the victim lived in the area and the subject frequently sleeps unhoused and sleeps in front of the victim's house. the subject was placed under arrest for a assault with a deadly weapon. and charged by the district attorney for as well as aggravated battery with serious bod reinjury. and pretrial has been in this case. this case got interest from the press. and reported that the suspect in this case had been arrested. there were a few incidents that

occured over the weekend, one occured at 2:30 am on april 8th where officers respond today two separate reports of stunt driving and the 7th district and then at 4th and nelson rising lane. officers assembled and both events were disbursed. at the fourth reports about people being injured and videos posted online depicting the incident. however we were not able to locate any victim and nor were there any medical calls. so if anyone has any information you can please call us at 415-575-4444 and you may remain anonymous. on that same night, on the 3000 block of 13th district, officers were dispatched to a

shot spoter activation, active show with about 75 to 100 vehicles and approximately 150 spectator. several vehicles were performing dangerous exhibitions of stunt driving in the intersection and exhibitions of speed. spectators were setting off fireworks. officers established a plan and gathering at the appropriate resource, the event was disburses. officers searched the area with negative results. and i would like to add on these types of events, we do follow-up and just recently we've gotten four court orders on follow-up on these types of events. so just to the public, you may getaway with it or think you got away but we're following up on this and any evidence that we can get to identify the

drivers and dangerous activity, we will follow-up and seek to take action including seizure of your vehicle. tenderloin efforts, last thing to report, officers seized 30,000 grams of fent ral which is a 141 percent increase over last year. 9 total arrest for the year in the tenderloin is 231 for possession of sale. early last year, we had 556 so we're on pace in the first 3 months of the year to exceed the rest of the year numbers. and that includes my report for the week. >> go ahead. >> okay. >> thank you, thank you very much, chief for i guess doing

an enforcement on the drug sales of fentanyl in the tenderloin. great to see that maybe it's going down, i do see a better situation, i do see your officers out there. it's a tough battle, talking about the shooting on main street i went by there and that's one of the highest tech areas that i know, it's called digital service, i think. i don't want to say anymore than that, i know there are plenty of cameras out there and i hope to everybody that has been asking that we give our police department, the time to make sure that they have the

time to solve the case, it's not going to be done like within the day or two, it's going to take some police work, i know. but looking forward and having a resolve on that. so congratulations on i guess, we're from last week to this week drop filing crimes and property crimes. i think we're headed in the right direction. thank you chief. >> thank you, commissioner. >> thank you, president he lie as. --elias. >> was the san francisco police aware of any problem in the store prior to its closure? >> yes, we were and actually had several meetings and

strategic, for a better way to put this planning sessions with the whole food manager including some of their corporate executives. as a result, we actually put details and ran operations in the store to curve some of the shoplifting. although, there was a report that things were getting somewhat better, the management or executives decide today shut down the store. so we will continue when that store reopens, hopefully it will to work with whole foods. and that strategy is a change from the past, it's a pretty aggressive strategy and we had not done that in the past and we did do it in this situation because it got use today that point. >> and chief, do you wish to make any comments on the in store security. >> working with the whole foods, what we hope to see is

the collaboration private security and the officers. that's the best remedy to curve some of this type of active at this time. for instance, stores are responsible for what happens within four walls. and even including ten b for officers, they work at the direction of the store. so we are definitely asking for cooperation in that area where they design arrest because we cannot be in every store but we'll work with them and we're asking for, you know, more from that end as well. >> yeah, it's obvious that that type of big box store in an area around the tenderloin is important to economic health of all san franciscans. >> it is. >> and the second issue, the homicide up and rincon hill, do you wish to make any comment as to how the investigation is proceeding there? as you you're aware whatever

reason that that particular incident has spread all over the world? >> it has gotten a tremendous amount of attention and our investigators are working really really hard on this case as they do with all cases. we're making progress, there is a lot of information out there. when cases get this type of attention, of course, you get people calling in and making their opinions about what happened so we have to sort through that. but our investigators are working hard on this case as well as the others. but i know that this one is a high public interest. >> thank you. >> commissioner benedicto. >> thank you, chief, a couple of questions. so on the homicide investigation on going, so there is nothing new to report, is that correct? >> yes, at this time. >> and i'll repeat what last

week, urging members to reframe from speculating and allowing the investigators to do their work and soon we'll be updated in due course. and the other homicide of jermaine reeves who is there an update? >> same thing, the investigators are working on that, they're working on the crews. really give response time. let them do their jobs and we're hoping that we yield positive results from all of our homicides. ?fm i think it serves as a reminder that mr. lee's

shooting has gotten a lot of investigation. >> i know the department is following out the training and forms for surveillance initiative. do you have an update as to ?r. we have rolled it and some of the busy area has been trained and we will report on, they have to do an operation order before they use this technology. the commission heard the

presentation in february, training was last month so we're about to roll some of roll some of these out. >> thank you, chief. >> chief, on what commissioner benedicter said, have you the live monitoring? >> the training is what the officers have been trained on. so what they presented to the commission. >> and will you be post ing for the monitoring? >> we have not issued the bureau yet, we have done the training, yes i'm sorry. the package that misty presented that is part of what the officers, and i do believe that it was in the package but yes, i mean that is going to be public comment because we have to report on it. >> okay.

>> i think it will be helpful for the website. vice president carter oberstone. >> thank you chief for the report. just one question from me. there was an article on the sf standard today about police officer who posted on twitter that he had made an arrest in light of an outstanding warrant and noted that the person he arrested had previously spoken badly of his mother. in the course of that article, a member frin tern al commented on the officer was under investigation. and i wondered if you can clarify for the department how it relates to which publicize that a officer is under

investigation for a specific event, specifically misconduct. >> normally, our internal affairs investigators do not come in on the case that they're investigating. there are times that we have a interest. and sometimes there is an officer's name attached to that. in those cases, you want the it was that it either a dpa has been conducted but no, the investigators don't normally comment on that. so definitely, looking into why we think we understand why, but we need to address that. >> oh i see, so when you say you need to address that, i guess maybe i should ask going forward, do you think that the department will continue this practice when there is a case of interest or not?

>> no, and it's not a practice that you have, it's not a practice that normally happens, if there is an investigation, we cannot come in on it. we cannot confirm if it's an item of interest. we had items of interest in this forum before, we can confirm that an investigation has been initialed. but in terms of calling out individual investigation that's is not the practice. >> anybody in the practice disclose any other facts such as the ultimate conclusion of eid or any other details aside from what is on going? >> no, i mean, no. those are personal records that we cannot give details on. >> thank you, chief. >> sergeant? >> if you would like to make public comment regarding line item 5, please approach the podium.

>> yes, ms. brown again, i just want to bring acknowledgment to my son that if anybody knows of his murder his case number is 6060862038. i just wanted like i said i mentioned last time, my son's birthday was april 6th, i sung happy birthday to a headstone, a headstone i sang happy birthday to, even though i know his spirit heard me. but i want you to know about the five stages of grief because i still go through it, anger, anger, sometimes i get angry at myself because i had to go through this every week. denial, i'm willing to do anything to bring my son back.

of finding a way to solve this case, whatever i have to do, denial is not believing that he's gone. i'm still in denial, that is true that this is happening. bargaining, i'm willing to do anything. acceptance, i had to accept that i lost my family, his father, when my son was murdered. it broke up my family. so i'm here by myself. depression, once again, i get depressed and i go anger to depression, sadness. i go from sadness to anger. guilt, i feel guilty that i should have been there to hold

my son and tell him hold on baby, mama is here, don't die, don't die. and shock, i'm still in shock. those are 7 stages of grief, and i still go through them. if you would like to make an anonymous tip beinger please call 45-575-4444. president elias that concludes public comment. >> thank you, next line. >> line number 6, dpa report, discussion on resent activities and announcements, discussion will be limited whether to calendar any of the issues raised for future commission meetings. chief of staff, director rosenstein. >> good evening, president,

vice president, members of the commission chief scott and members of the public, my name is diana rosestein and i'm here on behalf of paul henderson and i'll give you a little bit of a run down of what dpa has been up in the last week. based on the numbers comparable to 2022, the number of cases that we opened this past, up to today, the number of cases is up. in 2022, we opened 184 up to this point, right now, we're at 206 cases closed. same 184 in 2022, 2010 this time this year. we have roughly the same number of cases pending, 276 last year, 277 this year.

our sustained numbers are up, we had sustained ten cases this year, we sustained 16. we mediated 10 cases. and of the 18 are told. currently we have 7 cases pending with the commission and 91 pending with the chief. with respect to the cases that we have received this past week, the weekly trends with respect to allegations and again this is allegations only, 32% of the allegations were that the officer failed to proper investigate. 13% that the officers took required action and tied for third place was the officer knowingly engaged in policing

and officer spoke inappropriately, 8%, it's 8% respectively for each category. there are no new updates for our audit department. i believe that there will be some additional information coming out next week from our audit department in terms of out reach on march 23, dpa appeared on both sides of the 'eming occasion thursday show. it is a san francisco nonprofit created to provide resources through affective conversations to empower the black and brown communities. our very own teneta thompson dave a presentation and asked answers about dpa's role. we have nothing in closed session and we do have our director of policy jenel in the audience, she will be presenting a sparks report

which is number 8. and we have matt stieber for any questions that may come up from the audience. finally, if would you like to make a complaint or discuss any of the items with members of our staff. you can reach us and our website that post all of the statistics that we talked about as well as additional information, sfgov.org. and that concludes my report, and i'll have other comments with other agenda items as they come up. >> thank you, rosenstein. i don't see anybody on the queue, sergeant. >> if you would like to make public comment online item number 6, please approach the

podium. no public comment. >> next item. >> line item 7, commission reports and discussion and possible action. it will be limited to a brief announcements and discussion will be limited whether to calendar any of the issues raised for future commission meeting. commission president's report, commissioners report, commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. >> seeing none, commissioner benedicto. >> thank you, president elias. just a come of things to report, we had our discussion for 10.11 which concerns the department's policy on body worn cameras, it was a productive session. it was nice to see a mix of working members as well as some

more experienced and returning group members that will continue. also, on monday the 10th, i was at baby station to attend the remembrance annual remembrance for isaac spi no sa who was killed in the line of duty, 19 years ago. i saw the chief there, it was really moving things to attend, it's been 19 years since officer espinoza was killed and the turn out, retired officers and friends and family who traveled in some cases from other states and make this trip every year to commemorate and honor officer espinoza, his daughter who was quite young when he was killed is now an adult and traveling the world and honoring his memory. and it's, the case i think that

for the officer and his beat, honor his memory by the moving stories and his memory was honored and the academy has an award in the name of officer he espinoza and many carry on his legacy as well. that's all for me. >> thank you. commissioner byrne? >> thank you, thank you, president elias. as regards one of the d g.o.s that i was assigned, 1528, that is being sent, i would like to thank ms. indicatewood about for updating me about what is going on. i would also like to reiterate my request to the commission as regards, are there any other

other committees of three going on that other commissioners are not aware of and if so, who is on the committees and what is the purpose of the committee? i put in a request to agendize the item because i think it's important for transparency and openness that the public and the other commissioners be aware of what is going on. thank you. >> commissioner yee? >> thank you very much, madam chair. this report on the d g.o.s that is coming through. today we had 7.03, i asked it be moved to the following week or the week after, i just want to touch basis with haywood and thank you very much for all of your hard work. we also have 2.02 as alcohol alcohol used by members and 2.3

due to come out soon. what i would like to also take a look at is 6.14, psychological evaluation of adults where we have a lost issues here in the city, i want to make sure that it's addressed and making sure that we don't go back to a second time. also i talked to captain tumer in regards to vehicle accidents, 9.02 and 04 seat belt policy. so those are due to come out in the near future. so also i've been invited to stop crime san francisco. that is happening tomorrow at mira loma park clubhouse. i'll be dropping by briefly and

hearing their discussion. that's all i have to report, madam chair. >> thank you for your updates, you've been really busy. commissioner yanez. >> thank you, president elias, good evening, chief and acting director and those esteemed and community at large. i'll be brief with my report, we postponed the joint presentation with the juvenile probation commission to may 10th as a result of some of the logitic al challenges that we encountered but all the speakers online and on board for next month, i'm happy that that is moving forward. i also wanted to make sure that i announced that i will away out of the country for the next three weeks so i will not be in

the meeting next week and in may. i wanted to be transparent around that. i did want to agendize for future meeting, there was suppose to be an update on the community policing plan presentation that we have not necessarily agendized yet. but it is you know, time to get into the meat of those community policing plans and see how i can improve input and obtain more community feedback if possible. and i did want to follow-up with an item regarding one of the d g.o.s that i'm overseeing, the social media d g.o., there was i had a conversation with the chief i reached out to ask after it was brought to mia tension earlier in the month, that apparently a

department bureau order was issued on the investigated use of social media accounts. i checked in with the chief and we had a conversation about how we got to this point despite the fact that i had, you know, publicly and via email and had the matter reiterated through dpa jenel had reached out to clarify the reason why we wanted to include investigations in the social media revision process. and i, i unfortunately found out that without necessary being included in the feedback process, the department of bureau ordered provided construction on investigated use of social media was released, i believe in on the 6th of last week and i received

a copy later on in the week. so chief, i really want a little bit more clarification about not necessarily the reason why this was expedited because you were clear with me that there was a need to put something in place as as a result of there not being any guidance around investigative use, investigative social media for investigative purposes. and you, informed me that there had been a process with the public defender's office who submitted a letter before today's meeting raising this issue of the people that was provided by the public defender's office not necessarily being reflected in the department bureau order and specifically with language

around how vague the definition of when the department officers can open, open, you know, investigative accounts under the quote unquote, legitimate investigation purposes without necessarily including language that guides the department officers having around some probably suspicious and cause. so is would like to understand a little bit bert, i mean, is know that it's going to be hard for the commissioners to chime in without seeing the department of order, so i will want to agendize this because it merits a conversation and everything in the commission to raise the questions in order to improve the direction. i would like to get the chief's

comments if you're able to provide some clarity around why the order is so vague in certain areas. there are other issues with the way you know, there is almost an allowance for people without any procedure, without any authorization open, used their own accounts in private to use this. and to, you know, tain information for potential, you know, community members without their knowledge and issue that was brought to your attention from the public defend's office was there appears to be a cyber stocking of young people. and yet, some of these things are very few of these things are reflected in the bureau order. so today i want to agendize

that chief, i would like to get your comment on the vague language and if you can help understand what the intention of legitimate law enforcement investigation is and how we can improve the current instruction that is being provided gifnt social media continues to be a challenge. >> sure, thank you commissioner. i'll be brief because i know this is not agendized yet. but we did have a number of meetings with the public defenders, there was some things that were entities but some things that were not. bottom line, is we didn't have any standing policies on the use of social media for investigative purposes and we need to have some guidance for that investigative tool. and quickly in terms of, just

for the general public how these investigations are conducted. often times we have seen on social media, things that tend to escalate into violences, shootings and murders and that type of thing, and yes, we follow those accounts and yes we should follow those accounts in my opinion. so we need some guidance on how we do that. the department is definitely open and willing and actually recommends that this is into a d g.o., but we don't have anything in place right now and we're continually doing work that we need some guidance on. so the department does have the ability to initial bureau orders, particularly when there is no policy in place to begin with. but i want to be clear on a couple of things. and one, we are all in on a d g.o. process, i would strongly

suggest that we separate social media between the personal use of social media, they are totally two different things and they need to stay separate. i know this has not been agendized i look forward to having this on the agenda. we have on an issue where there is no policy in place. and given what we saw with, you know, the things that are happening around the country in policing, we have been working on this for a while and it's been dragging and dragging and we need to get something out and that's what we did. >> i'm going to. >> one other questions i have is since this had been in the works and it has been publicly requested that we include this in the social media work groups, there were many opportunities to share the existing document

which find needs a lot of improvement. and yet that wasn't shared at any point. are you open to us looking at the existing department bureau order in the interim and generating feedback so we can have a action item to modify the exist ing document before having to wait for social media group as it has been postponed. >> commissioner, we follow d g.o. 3.1, we gave dpa notice. hoping that there would be some feedback on the actual policy not on the process.

again when this actually gets to the d g.o. development process, we have a framework to start the process with. some of the things that we did not agree on which is several will be in the process. so we folt policy making process. i understand your question but the one thing i want to make clear is we need things in place to make sure that people have guidance. and the dgo process, i welcomer it and i hope that we separate because there are two very separate things but we did follow the process as far as 3.1. >> in order to briefly, i think this is going to be raised in

another agenda item with respect to the sparks report so we can plush that out a little bit more on there. commissioner yanez any other comments or questions, i think this probably more suited for the other agenda items regarding the sparks report which has the item listed in the actual report. >> i will then save my next questions for when we do get to that item because, there is something really really concerning around the lack of clarity with this document that was released. i'll save my questions for later, thank you. >> thank you. commissioner benedicto. >> one thing i wanted to add, with commissioner yanez reminded me, that after the excellent presentation. we're work oning a updated resolution that will reiterate our continued support so that should be in the works and

before and before us. >> thank you. sergeant? >> if you would like to make a public comment online item 7 commissioner reports, please approach the podium. >> speaker: paul, i understand that the chair can appoint advisory committees but i don't understand why there seems to be some secrecy about identifying any other three commissioner committees and it seems to be that ought to be disclosed consistent with that as i observe previously section 4.102 subsection 2, requires all commission to have annual statement of purpose outlining

its areas of jurisdiction authorities and purpose and goals subject to review approval. i've been unable to find that on the website and i've inquired of staff and they have not been able to identify it either. and my question, i would notice is there such a document. if there isn't, it should be developed with public incut but i apologize if it's there and i was not able to locate it. thank you. >> president elias, that concludes public comment. line item 8, sparks report, 2023 discussion. report on policy under consideration, sfpd and dpa, presenting today we have

captain tumer and sergeant terrell. >> hello. thank you very much. good evening, president elias, vice president carter oberstone, commissioners, chief scott, the chief council, sorry, chief of staff rosen stein, i apologize and general public. we would like to talk about the first quarter of sparks report. our report has been submitted but i would like to highlight a few things that may show up in that report. just to let you know, our current work flow we're processing 48d g.o.s at this time. they are nine d g.o.s in the common portal, three currently posted. there is another one that is going to post on april 21.

there are there are two that is coming up for some consequence and i know 9.01 was especially of interest and that is going to go on april 21st along with 9.03. we have 12dgos in meet and confer. there are six that have gone to meet and confer and five that are still there from quarter four and one will be reported out in quarter two in the next sparks report. so that's a total of 12, also two that are upcoming for meet and confer, 703 was postponed but 602 also to be scheduled to meet and confer. our working groups are as commissioner benedicto said, still on going.

and the next is for the review of the draft with city attorney and then we go to multous consequentcurrent. dbs, we have two dbs that we want to highlight, stop data collection update that will be reissued as the department notice. and db21079 which is the east station incorporation that will be incorporated into dg0 traffic collision and that is up for public comment on may 5th. that is the things that i want to highlight. i will gladly answer any questions.

>> how many bills are active? you said nine are in public. two are waiting for concern and engaged 12 in meet and confer. that also applies to public comment >> yes. >> how many active, [mic off] >> speaker: yes, we're processing those through our through our system.

11 through our operations bureau, 13 from the chief of staff, 12 from strategic management and 9 from bureau that are actively being worked on and some kind of form or fashion. is it revision process. >> now, is there a group and there are no other working groups on horizon. >> 10.11. >> yes. but that you're right. >> they had their first meeting in april. >> in april, okay. and then how many department, --

~>> no i think in the report we listed 7. >> and how many department notice. >> so the department bulletins have, you should be aware that department bulletin are phasing out and moving on to notices. the department that i'm addressing are being incorporated to department notices. department bulletin will not be an issue. guess this is 7 that i'm referring to. there is 7 for quarter one, 7 that fall into quarter one.

>> yes, i believe so. >> do you any department of these issues--[indiscernible] [speaking away from mic] cod you really tried to create a system, and not department notices.

so that we could have a better idea. >> okay. >> chief. >> thank you >> if they need to be reissued, they will be reissued as notices but we started the practice even before the 3.21, we regularly did that.

so any of the old bulletin this amended, we hope to roll them into the d g.o. process depending on where they fit. >> i just realizes because that was old terminology the new terminology is called operations order which i don't think even exist but i think he meant bureau order. so in addition to the department notices and bulletins can you tell us how many bureau orders have been issued each quarter? i'm assuming that these bureau orders that were issued for the, for use of social media and the plainclothes those will be a accounted for next quarter. >> yes, and if i can clarify, the new orders are not new, they have been around for a long time. >> i know that, but that's a new vehicle that you're using to disseminate for the department. >> yes, but i want to clarify

bureau orders are not being use today circumvent, i know there is differences of opinion but that's a conversation that i would like to have. >> good >> okay, any other questions? >> any questions for captain tumer? >> it's rosenstein i didn't see your name. >> i just had a quick question about the department, will it be department issuance department notice do we have a date when that will happen? na is an extremely important department notice. we agree with you, it is it's

what gives officers the vehicle and the information to fill the cal riper report. i see the expiration is the 7th so i was wondering when that will happen. >> i don't know the exact date but it is coming. >> okay, thank you. >> there wouldn't be a gap. >> it expired on april 7th. >> right so we have no interim mechanism? >> right now, no. >> can we get an et a? >> yes, we'll get an et a and we can actually put it in my report next week as well. >> i thought we created a tickler system where we don't have situations that expired. >> we do have a system we are

backed up on some things but we have a system. >> okay, vice president carter oberstone. >> just a comment, i want to reiterate what i said last time that the unit reported, which i really appreciate the format of the new report. it's just an enormous improvement over the prior format and i think sxwruft just gives an us an opportunity to see where the d g.o. is in the process and allows the public to see where the things are. just wanted to acknowledge the transparency, thanks. >> thank you, captain.

>> good evening, president and vice president carter oberstone and commissioners. i'm happy to be here to report on dpa's 2023, policy work. next slide please. just a brief overview, dpa participated in a order to the department's policy on juvenile detention. we made 39 policy recommendations on 8 existing general orders. we addressed a very concerning trend to issue bureau orders as a work around to the general order development process.

it's been a busy first quarter. next slide, tpa's chief of staff, we participated in the working group to revise order 7.01 on juvenile detention arrests and interrogations. it's been a policy that has been in the works since 2020, it's been a lot of legal updates since that time. dpa would like to thank the district attorney office, the sf public defenders, the bar association, the juvenile probation department and park for engaging in the process. we really appreciate it, next slide. as i mentioned before, dpa research and provided 29 recommendations oning 8 general orders. the primarily focus this quarter was on the plainclothes dgo. so just a background on 2020,

dpo recommended that non uniform officers mount body worn cameras but we did update a recommendation in our 2023. we tlaemd undercover and clothes officers wear a camera or covert camera during operations. now we understand that in some circumstances wearing a camera is too come behr son to work with operations but with modern technology, using covert or concealed camera or camera on your eyeglasses or even poll cameras. we also recommended, we understand that there might be a need to deviate from this policy but in those instances, the superintendent should document and articulate in a plan why they need to deviate

from a camera requirement. next slide. this quarter as a work around to the general development process. as background in 2016, the united states department of justice in its assessment in sfpd said that the department should not issue department bulletin because dbs were not transparent and contrary to the police commission authority. now as captain mentioned, the department is using a series of identical orders to make policy that cover all operation sxhz this is important because general orders require public input and publicly posted and require dp a input and commissioner approval with bureau orders are prom gated in

cigarette. and bureau--secret. and they're to address issues with one bureau. so if the department is issuing a number of orders it should be done in a transparent fashion under 3.01 with public incut and approval. the lack of transparency is contrary to obama 21st century principles and cuts off community input. the department needs to expedite a policy it can do so under 30 days. so the amount of time that some of these bureau orders have been in the works, the department could have prom gated a general order. we also recommend that all bureau orders immediately be published on the sfpd website. next slide please. as we used before, there are

backlog of cases, disciplinary cases, pending chief's hearing. now if chief hearing occurs when a police officer wants to discipline for ten days or less, this issue was brought to dpa's attention by our excellent auditor steve flaherty, the 91 cases pending with the chief and now there are 47 cases and 65 offers awaiting a chief's hearing. in order to fix this problem, we recommended a dgo2.07 policy that lays out the disciplinary process for sworn members, be amend today one require a chief's hearing to be held in 80 days, from the date the notice of appeal is filed, that the hearing officer issue a decision in 90 days or less and that only good cause continuance be granted and

generally limited to one per side. we hope to get it to the commission soon but we hope that some of policy recommendation will address the backlog. i did want to reiterate something, we have two policies up for public comment and we would love to hear from the officers doing the work and from the community, children of arrested parents that for public comment on the sfpd website, the flip for policy, that's up for public comment. we would love to hear from officers doing the work as well as the public, public defenders. the response that is more applicable to officers rather than the public but we would like to hear from the 13th to see if they if the policy works

for them. and also the department's sparks reports, they leave off the dp a parole. the commission ordered that we begin the policy development process we're kind of stalled. and now now d g.o. 5.08, i think it's not okay to leave it off the reports entirely, it's still underdevelopment. so i would ask that that be included and not fall off the department radar or commission. thank you, that's all i have. >> thank you for your report. i did have a couple of questions.

regarding this, it's going to be directed to dpa and the chief. i'm confused chief because for example, on 501 and if you can remind me of the dates again, either captain or ms. kaywood, that was last revised back in. >> 501. >> i'm sorry, 508. >> it's been a while. >> captain tumer, do you have that? i'm also going to ask when the with respect to the social media d g.o., i don't believe there has been one in place, meaning not a d g.o. to revise. >> there is a one of personal media which is d g.o. 2.9.

for a ruple of years, they have been working on social media. other departments include their social media as a tool. but there is no policy for social media? >> correct. and miz question for that, there is no d g.o. that is in, that is currently drapted addressing that situation but the department has been using social media to investigate for several years now. and i would say, what would you say, the last maybe nine or ten years?

or even more than that, is that fair to say? >> that's fair to say and 1996 is your answer. >> thank you. i'll get back to that one. using social media, it's been a method that has been used for a decade. how many department notices or bulletin orders have been issued pertain to go that issue? using social media by the department other than the one that was just released? >> none that i know of. >> why would, you started working on the d g.o. when? when did that start? >> 2020. >> okay, so if started in 2020 and you've been working on it this long and this form of investigation has been used for more than a decade or a decade, why would the need for bureau order happen now?

versus the fact that it's been ten years, two years in the making. and i'll be very blunt, the reason i'm asking is because, you know, we really worked hard in 301 to harness every department every mechanism that is used to create policy for the department and really put it into the d g.o. process. as you know, the doj recommended that the department, bulletin needed to become extinct because they aren't transparent in terms of showing the public what is happening or showing the police commission what is happening in termds of policy making within the department. so we've assigned d g.o.s, commissioners have been involved in the process.

so i'm trying to understand why the department would use another vehicle to sort of make changes when we're aiming to have the policy changing process through d g.o. 3.1. >> we need to manage the risk, not to confront the issue, but the plainclothes, the now is plural, started i think that same year, 2020. and even with that this, i know dpa waited on that and the order that was issued. there was not consistent so the bureau orders, we are not trying to circumvent but it does not negate the fact that

we're seeing issues that right now. you can say yeah, maybe 30 days, we're already stacked up with general orders. we have 12 sitting in concurrence, it still has its problems and these things are not turning around overnight. we need to do this now. we want to be part of that as well. and there is some transparency just like the plainclothes is being road in the 5.8, if the commission wants to change it, we're fine with that. but operational issues that we know are issues, and dragging and dragging, we need to get it going. and i'll say one other thing,

with that. in 2017, we recognized that we needed a policy and that policy has not been done. these policies are not turning around overnight like we envisioned but the risk is still out there. and as i read 3.01, the department has the ability, as long as we're not amending a dgo to issue orders that impact operations, that's what we're doing. we love to go that end to have the further discussion with all the input that we intend to get or will get on this policy. this incident made us look at our units and created a heightened sense of urgency in terms of we cannot wait for a

year of something that we know is problematic. right now that d g.o. does not exist. to me, ipg it's, a form of destruction to instruct the department to put something in place as that dgo is in place. we're trying to do good at what we do. >> is agree, and i guess my concern is two-fold, because as indicated, the department is stretched thin, resources are thin, we're get a lot of continuances on the deadlines for these dgos because the staff is trying to manage and get these in line. so one of my concerns is wouldn't it be more strud enter for the staff to get these d

g.o.s developed rather than outside bureau order that addresses things that will be rolled into dgo and use the efforts for that. and the reason i ask that, i'll talk about 5.08 plainclothes but i want us to keep on social media. here in this situation, you have a policy that the department has used for a decade. and we finally within the last three years in the process of creating a dgo on this, while i understand your argument that there are some things that need immediate attention, it would seem that when time lapses, and the need to have it on paper, seems very long. i don't think there is a urgency there in terms of getting out a bureau order.

policy right. >> well, yeah, i mean i respectfully disagree with that. it's for the work, the policy, was we have, worked on this policy for several years. so it didn't take a lot of people to finish up the wofrjt the meetings with the public defender's office and research that was done. all of that had been done. but the other thing is, as we saw issues and it's really hard to have people do the things that we need them to do when we don't have anything in place. ?ment so were there immediate

issues that arose as an investigateory rule? >> there were rules, the process itself you know, the ability of officers to do it without any policy in place. >> those are things that don't seem like immediate, if they existed since the use of this tool, meaning the lack of having process and procedure. those are things that yeah, they need to be fixed but i'm trying to see what the emergency is to have it now all of a sudden, versus the fact that, you've had time to do this and as the department and commissioner and stakeholders are trying to move this forward

i'm sure you can see from that point it looks problematic, right? >> no, i don't see that. i've been tracking these projects and i check in, what do we need to do to finish this policy? and understanding that this will roll into a d g.o. working group and all the things that they require for this particular policy. but really not anything else to do in terms of a bureau order to stop the bureau order to be put in place. i hope that you can see, i'm not saying that you know, the people that we met at the public defender's office, agreed with everything, we disagreed then.

we did the research we it everything. what is the holdup? other than the d g.o. process which will happen. we're not trying to circumvent, that will happen. >> so if you're not going to circumvent the process, and commit today transparency? >> yes. >> it would not be a problem to start posting on the website or providing them to the commission so we can post them on our website so we have more transparency and if you're issuing these orders and notices that the public is aware as well as the commissioners as to what is happening. >> this is what we're doing, and this commission has been good holding us accountable, we're trying to hold it.

it's not being a applied evenly, we're trying to follow the policy as it reads. we're starting to add things that we're not required to do. we should formalize that process, that we need to work out. >> definitely, and we're open to that conversation and you and i have had that conversation. and in the interim until we fix t it would be i good practice to have the bureau orders to be published on the police commission so if you can have them over and that way commissioners and the public know, what is being issued. >> i think that will help. >> yes, and just to be clear, the commission is directing the department to publish the bureau orders on the website which i don't have a problem with.

but what i do have a problem is when we start making up things along the way, and the tables get turned like we're doing something that we're not doing what we're doing. >> this is a trial policy, it's an trial and error like 5.1, sometimes it does not always come together and we have to make adjustments and dhaz the situation we're in right now. if you have something brief to respond, >> i'll wait for my turn. >> vice president carter oberstone. >> thank you, president elias, i'm pretty concerned of this as well.

i do want to ask of the orders that they found, how many of those either apply to multiple bureaus or multiple bureau identical orders issue that apply to more than one bureau? >> all of them. >> can you repeat that question? >> i was just asking of the bureau orders that dpa raised how many applied to multiple bureaus or identical issued to more than one bureau. >> i think that mirrors an xlaition. i can read it verbatim there is nothing in d g.o. 3.01 that prevents. as a matter of fact that's one of the things that needs to be addressed. there are units in, for

instance that has plainclothes units, and one of the things that we have received complaints about is the lack of consistency between the two. we had a field operations bureau order that dpa weighed in on, yes you did, please let me finish, and we had nothing in investigations even close to that. i made the mistake so that the assistant chief can have consistency dgo does not allow for that, there is nothing that says that you cannot apply the same principal to multiple bureaus. as a matter of fact, it does not make sense not to do that. >> well you anticipated my question, i was going to ask

you what you thought if a bureau could apply to multiple bureaus. so that's one area that explains why we see this differently fm as i read 3.01, it does not say but the language implies it, we can read it. this is the definition directive that apply within specific bureaus, to me it implies that it's to one bureau. if there is an issue that cuts across bureaus, that seems to be something that should be addressed by a d g.o., by the commission and that bureau orders are more kind of specific and when you have an issue that is so prevalent that it

cuts across, i think that's one indicator that that is something that should be taken up by the commission. >> so just to put it into context, it's one thing that when one issue applies to the whole department, if you have a small unit let's say like a surveillance unit that works ten people working in it sb then you have another working in field operations, i'm not opposes to that but the issue is, we have to have consistency. and to have a policy that consist that is problematic. it would be problematic to me because when we do operation, we need the same rules. i just want to be clear, i'm

not opposed to dgo but that's one of the kinks that needs to be worked out. i believe that policy was written from prior policies that really does not address this issue. but the part that i'm taking a back by is the situation that we skirt around. i said from the start, let's use that to at least get started 5.08. we welcome the process and i think, not i think that is totally different from what they described that the department was doing? >> let's get to that, i want to give you a chance to respond to that.

and if, i think it certain when you have something that cuts across bureaus, it's an indicator that the d g.o. is the appropriate tool but the point is there could be hypothetical, the areas which is you talked about amending d g.o.s so i did want to ask you whether you think they can amend. >> bureau orders should not amend the dgo and when what which said earlier in terms of the social media, there is no social media. >> you do have plainclothes and you do have body worn camera, so if a bureau order, so i guess we agree which i didn't expect that a bureau order can't amend, didn't they do just that? >> are we talking about social

media? >> i'm talking about all the race in the report, let's put that in aside we--we have a plainclothes and body corn camera dgo and now bureau orders that cover this same subject matter isn't that amending the dgo? >> i don't believe we amended the dgo at the plainclothes order, they're the plainclothes that deals with traffic and. and it has no procedure about the plainclothes operations. and that's the problem, a d g.o. that was written, to me is a tote redifferent thing on how

to conduct narcotic or following a car burglar those types of activities. the recognition that something needed to be in place. >> and what about the bod owe corn camera? >> i believe that does not address the plainclothes units. >> okay, i guess my point is if you have a dgo to cover an entire area, this is our plainclothes dgo, you say it's not amending it if you have a bureau order that vasly broadens the scope of what is covered in the dgo? to me, i don't agree with that. we have a dgo that is covering

the field of body corn cameras, and complain worn officers, if you want to vasly explain what is done, you have to do that through the process. but you don't see it that way? >> i think there are some nuances in our policies as we develop and refine policies, what we're going to find, for instance administrative plain kloekts officers should not make traffic stops, i get that. but tactical is not in that and i don't think the dgo was meant

to cover that. there is multiple ways. and if we want to do that in our dgo that is going to be the commission decision but i do think that is a discussion that needs to be taught through. just like our manuals, there is a reason to separate manuals, manuals or more operations tactical and dgos are overall general orders, where general order means that, general. you don't want to at least you don't want to do, a 45-page for general order. even though they are related, i think we have to be really really thoughtful about that moving forward. i do think as we evolve our dgo process, some of the concept of the past about what a dgo is really needs to be thought through.

the--thought through. the things should be done concurrently what we're going to have is a bunch of conflicts. >> thanks, chief, that is helpful. what i heard you say today, is that the reason the department issued these bureau orders is because the dgo process was taking too long? and i mean i did want to ask and i think president elias raised this and you, you also mentioned it in one of your answers, we have a process for 3.01 for expedited d g.o.s, it's 30 days. i'm wondering, if speed was the issue, why couldn't we do that? >> so we get one for every ten, one expedition, we have one that will be coming to the commission for, for consideration in the next

couple of weeks. there is the things backing up waiting for consequence, it's not that the work is being done, they're getting more dgos than they ever during my tenure. but to expedite dgo, something else has to go to the bottom of the stack, the way it works. let me be clear what i'm saying, i'm not trying to circumvent the process. but when we have issues that are totally unaddressed, and we have a bureau order has been basically sitting with very few things that needed to be done to complete it, why doesn't it make sense?

>> the resource allocation point, i see it the same about things going to the bottom of the pile, i see it's going to be the same sme working on the bulletin. so that person is you know taking time away from whatever else is on there, including potentially dgo. to me that's not a reason why you cannot go through the process. and i'll say, like, only the police commission has a charter right to issue policy. the fact that things are taking longer than we would like cannot supplant the exclusive powers in the policy arena.

if you felt there was an urgent need and it sounds like, there are issues about consistency which i agree are important, i have not heard why you would have a veiled yourself. >> so the bureau order has been completed, let me back up. the field order in essence was written three years ago. and i just want to talk about resources, you raised the issue and i raised the issue.

but the d g.o. process requires for these two things, they require a whole another process. and yes, it will take time but the point is there were issues that needed to be addressed now. and it does not stop any d g.o. process from developing particularly from a d g.o. that does not exist at this point. i'm having a hard time understanding why, if there are issues that need to be addressed, people had been issue, what is the issue? >> i guess the issue for me is the department does not the authority to do it. a bureau order that covers same

thing as the dgo, i have not heard any reason expressed why using the 30-day expedite would not address every concern that you raised for immediatecy. so when people are saying, this sure looks like the department is circumventing the charter authority, that is for me an indicator of that, when you have but instead you decided to go the bureau order route. for having bureau orders for offering things and other broad policy areas.

>> so there is currently a order? i'm sorry not a bureau order b*u because there is not one now but a d g.o. >> no there is a d g.o. on plainclothes and body worn cam ra, this is again something that cuts across multiple bureaus and something to me, it's outside the province of what would generally be a bureau order which is implementing current policy not creating new policy. i think it's pretty clear as it results to social media. >> yeah, not to be labor the point so i'll move on.

but one thing that i want to clarify, is this flood, we'll report on what that looks like but we're talking about the same order that is spread across multiple bureaus, a social media order. part of what we all owe each other is accurate information. to me it's inaccurate. you didn't say it, i'm not saying you said it but dpa said and i would like to have a discussion about that. >> i stand by my report. >> and i stand by what i'm saying as well. >> i'll leave it at that, i'll yield the rest of my time.

>> [indiscernible] [mike off] [mic off] >> collection training so there is a little bit more area within that subject matter, it covers a lot. 95% is going into the media.

>> sorry for content, there was a shooting incident that caused that dgo to be heard and in terms of transparency that was broadcast to the public and to this commission and as a as a matter of fact, we stood down while we worked on that until we got that bureau order, that bureau order in place. there are these assertion that's we're not trying being transparent. we had some like that one that needed some change. >> we had several discussions on 508, and allow me to be clear, i think the bureau orders are necessary, you do need to have the ability to be

able to issue them and provide guidance to the department. our concern is not that it's not just a vehicle because you know how hard we work on 301 and to get everything in one place, because we had to come port with the dog recommendations on department notices and services. and nothing is getting done in years. i agree with you, the only thing that was probably attic to me which is now solved is you know, the transparency part. which is you you showing the posting the orders, so since you agreed to that, i don't think that it's my issue because some. do you have another comment. >> i just want to make one comment for members of the

public some of this discussion is in the weeds. and i want to take a step back and think why i this is a matter of intense interest. in san francisco we have a police commission but in many places there is no police commission. we decided to have i a different government here. because we have independent citizen oversight and implementation of policy. because many of the worse is because there was inadequate oversight and no checks on policy making and procedures. so our d g.o. process and the power to issue policies with the commission, as part of that process, the department gets to

weigh in extensively and brings subject matter to the table. but at the same time it provides from the same commission which has a different view on a lot of these issues. sometimes involves a working group where we could not convenient subject matters, it's subject to public meetings laws, so we have publicly post what we're doing and members of the public can o pine. so the system ensures that we have a diversity of use and that the process is public. bureau orders are exactly the opposite. the department gets to decide whatever it wants to do. i don't think dpa gets to weigh in, they get noticed.

so the department decides for itself what it wants to do. and that can be okay if it's implementing operation issues. when the department issues a bureau issue, it's overriding our entire system of government, it's taking away the public's transparency into the issue and taking away all the tools to ensure that we're passing policies that we can all be proud of. that's why this issue is important. i'm going to allow ms. rosenstein to speak and then commissioner yanez is on the queue and then we'll turn to you. >> i just wanted to give some context to the conversation and the last several months, dpa has received three notifications of bureau orders to be issued by the san francisco mrip.

--police department. one had to do with social media and the third with body worn camera. but in addition to the concerns that all of you have brought up, i think there is an additional concern that we should consider when issuing bureau orders as opposed to dgos because with bureau orders, if the dgo comes shortly thereafter beinger that's going to cause confusion for officers with policy and training. if the material in the bureau orders, changes in the d g.o., that is issued, about the same exact subject matter within months of the issuance of the bureau order what we're concerned about in addition to all the things that you brought up, such as amending the dgos

and you surfing very scarce resources and the other issue is that it could potentially cause confusion officers on the same exact subject matter that is materially different that requires retraining et cetera, so that's one other concern that i wanted to bring up. but, we just, we've just seen three of them in several months and that is caused to have concern and to bring this issue to everyone's attention. >> i'm sorry? i know that it was after our conversation that we had with the department, it was withdrawn for i believe that exact reason. because we did have a d g.o. revision. i understand social media that there is not a d g.o. that is,

that the deals with social media but we do have one with plainclothes and body worn cameras. those are some of the concerns that the dpa had, they came, they were, they had to deal with, with subject matter that was currently in the d g.o. working groups in the d g.o. process i should say. and there is substancetive and they can cause confusion. >> thank you, president elias. and thank you for having this conversation and social media is coming up. i do want to clarify that despite the fact that there was not a social media dgo policy for investigative purposes, the

social media dgo for personal use, does indicate that the members are prohibited from any social media to have contact or communication about any matter pending in criminal court. and the department bureau order that was issued actually does now impact that language. d g.o. was amend. so i want to make sure that the existing social media policy or the department gaift language that talked about the limitations when if came to social media.

i want to make sure that everybody ends and everybody is clear on that chief. the second point i want to raise, the manner in which this bureau order was written, is just very confusing. there is language that a member can use social media while on duty using department issued equipment. and then there is i section there that says that if an after feels and i'll read the language, is circumstances requiring a member to use an investigative social media account, while off duty, members are required to have that.

so we're allowing with that language members of our department without any oversight, overtime without any need to receive authorization from a superintendent, the policy allows for cyber stalking in their private time. and i don't think the department wants to. i believe this commission would have guided the department in a different direction on such a serious issue. and in area of investigation outside of the traditional forms of policing.

so i don't necessarily believe that there is something that you can provide to clarify how this was authorized? because i'm assuming that it did come through your desk but i'll reconcile that order. >> commissioner, there are instances where officers who are investigating cases get information when they're off and that was intended to do was be able to account over that process.

for instancecious they build relationships they get a tip hey i just saw this on social media, there are going to be problems if you don't act right now. those are real instances that happen quite often, and for us to say, no don't bother, don't pay attention we just need rules to governor it. as far as equipment, we need to discourage officers from using their personal communication devices for investigative purposes, it's not a good thing. that's why that's in there. because there were no rules, if it's a department phones, there is audit and audits that we report to the commission and help us better manage the situation.

these things happen. especially when violence have been parked. so we have to have some guidance on how to do that. again, when this, when this goals radioed the commission will make a final call and department will provide inside on why we're asking for things that we're asking for. but i don't think there is clarity what officers are faced with. and you're not going to roll over in bed and say i've off duty, call me in the morning, you want to stop the murder

from happen. and you need a venue and right now we don't have anything in place. >> i understand that justification, it still reads as if that paragraph negate all the procedures and i understand providing guidance. but when the guidance is as confusing, you know, it raises alarms. i guess the last comment is, this is about open communication, i believe part of our responsibility is to raise these questions and bring them to light. but it should not happen this

way. and i agree with the president ally as recommendation when there is a bureau order that is going to be released while the process of dgo clock has started the way it had with this particular d g.o., at minimum we should have a copy of what intended to be posted in the interim. and i suggest that we adopt that as soon as possible. because there is values in the outcomes of opinions in people that are doing work in different areas of the city. thank you for engaging in the conversation, i hope that we can revisit this particular

department order prior to initiation because of how urgent and concerning the document looks like in its current situation. >> thank you, commissioner yanez. ms. kaywood and commissioner byrne. >> i just wanted to correct a comment that the chief made. back in 2021 we had a disciplinary case, and they met with the chief and applied to one bureau, we had one small edit, we were told that it was going to be disseminated immediately. we were told that that order was not issued.

so the comment about publicly posting bureaus orders, taken. dpa should be consulted from the very beginning. i know that when the use of poers had to be revised, we went in there and got it done very quickly. we could have done that with the plainclothes bureau order and social media bureau order. i do think that working together instead of everybody being silos. we should be working together and not including us in the process.

>> thank you. i believe if a issue could be provided to the commission so its disseminated at least in the interim that gives us a bit of a oversight. so we can get to the gift of the matter. and provide our oversight. as i said, i agree with president elias that's a relatively easily way to explain the circumstances that exist. thank you. >> commissioner benedicto. >> just briefly, it seems that there is a consensus at minimum publishing the bureau orders for and yousing.

you mentioned the current draft does not require that. would it be your preference that they introduce or start posting? i just want to know if you prefer for turpz to defend and making sure it's a clear directive that recorded vote be taken after the apartment when the bureau issued and post it on the website? >> yeah, i think that's the proper way to do it. >> can we get your commitment.

>> you already got it. >> you love resolutions. one final thought, ms. whichkaywood brought up a good point. we've seen the work when the department and dpa works together, we have seen some great policies and i want to continue for that trend. for a while we had a good rhythm and working things out. and engaging in this process and giving us a quality work that the commission can vote on and we've seen how these policies are being used. so i want to continue to foster that, i'm hoping that we can work them out so we can continue on the path which is

having a great product at the end of the day that other jurisdictions are trying to copy from. we don't always agree but i think we're way way way much better off than we have been in terms of policy. we'll work through it. >> great, thank you. >> one of the nicest things of my jobs is writing policy, i love that continues. >> it's not easy, i thought it was. okay, sergeant. >> if you would like to make public comment regarding sparks report, please approach the podium. president elias, there is no public comment.

>> line item number 9 discussion and and possible action to approve revised dgo6.02 physician evidence and crime scenes. we have director mark powell. >> good morning, director, you're last on the agenda. you're up. >> we corrected the typos and added some language to the paragraph so we're ready for any questions. >> can i get a motion? >> i'll motion pursuant to commission benedicto's language which was adopted previously that this be sent to the meet

and confer aspect so we adopt the dgo as written and send it to the lawana preston so she can meet with paertsds. >> second. >> second. >> thank you. sergeant. >> public comment -- ~>> oh wait. one second. okay. go ahead, sorry. >> public comment. yeah, this guy who takes five minutes to put on the board but wants to speak. >> if you want to make a comment online item 9, please approach the podium. president elias, there is no public comment would you like to talk a vote. >> please. >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes. >> commissioner yanez. >> yes. >> commissioner yanez yes. commissioner byrne. >> yes. >> commissioner yee. >> yes.

>> commissioner yee, yes. vice president carter oberstone? >> yes. >> president elias. >> yes. >> you have a unanimous vote. >> next item. >> line item 11, adjournment.

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office for the presentation. appreciate you being here as well. let's start. thank you. >> madam chair i should call the item. >> my apologies. please call the item. >> item 1 is a hearing on the march update of the city and county of san francisco 5 year financial plan. members when wish to provide public comment call 415-655-0001, access code: 2485 642 0957 ## and press star 3 to enter the queue. >> thank you. please. good afternoon. ana budget director and mayor's office ask the clerk to call up the slide presentation?

thank you. every year in march or office works with control and budget and legislative analyst office to update the 5 year financial projection. that projection you got in january that is when we published the report that report the first 2 years were the projected deficits we are trying to balance around for the quickly approaching june first budget. we worked with the controller's office. to update projections that's what i will talk about today. >> first i wanted to orient everyone. novelty changed we will

highlight the change and our view of the local economy the national economy the cost pressures have not changed. in that january report, this is our long-term financial planning document we use a base case projection. meaning this assumes we make no policy decisions but change the revenues and the expenditures that add up to the deficit over multiple years and the basis for the mayor's budget instructions issued in december. so that projected 728 million dollars deficit over 2 years that was 200 million dollars in the first year and grew to over 500 million in the second year of the budget.

these are assumption in that report and these remain the same today. we are seeing very slow growth or little to no growth in tax revenue and losing out on federal ref sdmus other one time source fema and other sources used to balance prior year budget. the report incorporates election measures from june and november of 22. salary and benefits for open contracts we are assuming growth on wages that remains the same the contracts we are negotiating have not been approved by this board. it seen a 7.2 rate of return and we applied various cost inflation assumptions and costs including cpi and nonpersonal on

rages and another contract negotiated now. we assume we fully fund the 10 year capitol plan in the board next week that assumes we add 30 million dollars a year to the capitol spend to get to prepandemic levels. and an initial other updates. >> in the january report these were the main changes since the left time we did this projection this it is a reminder where we are seeing the reductions or downgrades in local tax ref nows michelle will speak to the changes and assumptions but the bottom line is just our vow of the world and of the local economy has not drastically changed. the tax revenues getting growth in prepandemic times you are familiar with at this point.

the update the last couple months this shows the bottom line go to the next slide. of a lot of numbers the bottom line first year 90 mission worth the second year got threat million dollars better and some changes in out years we are focused on the first 2 years that get to the 780 million dollars deficit what changed across the 2 years? so, michelle will talk about the revenue change and i wills speak briefly to expenditure changes. >> this is on -- great. michelle, controller's office. as was mentioned we did not make

large changes assumption chink miss this report but there are a now updates for new information we have. the first one with property tax we are looking what the working roll is for next yearch and -- there is -- the role growth was higher than projected. we are adding that in our forecast and it is based on affects the future years. and it bumpsum excess. the other change we made the partially off sets that is we have an office model to estimate had we think we'll pay on office properties and the main assumption we change increasing what the peek vacancy rate will be for office 29-3% that updates what we think will will refund

later. more property tax. modest increase in business tax as well. text year 22 filings are due the end of february of 23 that is the annual tax filing schedule. those filings the re turns had higher tax year 22 liabilities than we had anticipated. we will bake in that and assume it is base build and going forward. >> transfer tax. we are also selecting what we are see negligent current year which is low numbers and values of transactions and don't see anything that would cause us to change to think of the forecast in the future be different? many changes the biggest is interest rates. nobody is buying buzz they can't finance and than i don't want to

buy anything. we'll keep current year bringing down the assumption for every year boy 40 million dollars. next slide. one thing we do with our state sales tax we aline with what the govern budget is because they are projecting what the state will get for sales tax we will assume that we will bake in the projections and will get our same share what they project we alineed the january forecast a bit lower. about 3 million dollars loss. because we are projecting slow, slow flat growth in sales tax and the biggest assumption change we made with ref now the fema revenue. we have discussions with our

representatives and a lot this they don't know but hearing they are focused on getting claims in the jurisdictions that have received no female am reembushesments. they have been spending time with us and putting in and focusing on the other jurisdictions. so there is no movement on a claims no obligations or payments. it is we are in a holding pattern. we are showing here is we are seeing rethought wield get all the revenue by end of next year. it does not seem likely given we have 9 months with no action in the current year. we are moving that money in the future. that's the big ref now changes here. next slide and back to -- >> sure a few expenditure changes we reflected in the march update the first increased

deposits required pay back what we borrowed from to pass the police and public works is up lamental and replenishing this reserve there are modest changes this is 50 million dollars in the first year. on salary and benefits, we see increased cost in health care rates and that is due to medical inflation. the costs are going up and up. dp also the retirement costs because between when we did the expert now the retirement system updated the audited value of our assets based on everything that happened last year and it was worse than they estimated. that was unfortunate, too and drove general fund cost. finally -- there are other modest city changes cost and that is hsh aid amounts.

good new system worker's compensation costs. last year you may remember we did a supplemental it pay for worker's compensation costs and thought they would continue increasing. those are mreflg out a bit. we brought down assumptions there. this is to highlight the policy decisions before the body that have been the subject of comprehension with our offices not assume in the this report this . could have been very long. we are all aware of many cost precious. these are things that are real costs you start think burglar or planning or making decisions not assume in the this 778 million dollars number. and that includes what will be the cost of annualizing both when we did for the police department and public works.

extending the down payment master promise. maintaining shelter. funding shelter prescriptions with state grants that we are chasing after to figure out if we will maintain those grantses. if we don't get them this is i local cost if you want to keep operating the shelters and tax change proposals that have been introduced to the body another pending policy decision. also we highlight and report various pending supplementals beyond the police and public w adds up to sing million dollars that it is not assume in the this report. that more than would think more than eat up left in the general reserve. >> i'm going to pass it back to misthoel talk about reserve status. >> this is a table of reserved we keep in our reports. so let's see changes from the

last time you saw we will be we are now showing the top line the draws in the general reserve in the current rear and replenishment next year. otherwise we don't think there are any changes to the table from the left time you saw it. next slide. in all of the forecasts forecasters included we don't assume recessions the state department does not but the budget won't don't do it for local budget when we do is say we have a recession scenario to see what the could mean to our projections. and so this is a section of the report that we are not assuming

happens. the scenario befores that we would assume a slow down in the middle of 2023. that would flult loss of property, business, hotel and transfer tax ref now and over the forecast period of time 950 million dollars, that's the top line of the updated projection reduction and base case revenue a few things off set that we have less flowing throughout baseline we get mauler that would flow out. we would have lower reserve deposit requirements the reserves are tieed revenue amounts. those are detriments. and we would also assume that in the recession our retirement the vault retirement assets would take a hit we used the

retirement system actual had in the report from left year 11% loss. and that would increase costs by about the one thing i did not do. that would increase retirement rate in fiscal 25 and out ward marginaly. we assume in the recession scene air i don't with revenue losses we are eligible to draw down our economic stabilization reserves. we assume we will take all 380 million dollars and the net affect of losses off set by the reserve years is an increase in short fall across the forecast period of time 340 million dollars. above when we already projected. to give you a sense of what could look like. it would look different than this but this gives you an idea.

so the big chinks build by the change in fema we're pushing out the expectation of foama from the first to second year. i think the second year of the budget looks better than it irrelevant is. it fema is a huge risk in terms of timing. and the amounts we are going to get reimbursed and i will add, too much there is significant cost precious out there. that we are all trying to plan be ordinary including both on the expenditure side and risks on revenue side should we see something approaching it is recession in the next few months. with that we are both available to answer questions.

could we i don't have any name on the roster at this moment. can we go back to the sort of the recession scenario quick on slide 15. and just help me understand better that the projection don't resume a recession. and here it says specific low that if the economic stabilization reserves were completely depleted this is referencing the slide on 14 is it 380 million or 360 million. 380 million i see. economic stabilization reserves. can you remind me. went through fast.

what is the threshold and trig torse use that? >> year over year decline in revenue. by? any amount. a decline >> year to year revenue decline in any fashion any dollar amount we get on use it. >> you get on use it up to the amount of what your short fall is. you have a tiny decrease and take the entire reserve or decrease and take a proportion. >> and occurring -- and so let me try to understands when you say short fall does that mean deficit? at this moment is tw 95 for this fiscal year. >> use of reserves is entirely pined revenues example may be if i clarify. revenues are still increases year over year they are not

anywhere close to the increase in our expenditures that is driving the deficit we are not seeing revenues groat way we were used to them growing in prepandemic years. not seeing a decline that is a recession likely where we see a full year decline and allow us

to tap in to reserves. >> yes. >> thank you. jot use of those is entirely tieed change in revenue. as limited partnering they are going up moderately, we under the rules can't draw them. and that's when we are projecting in the base case is very modest but growth still. i'm sorry. fimay i would like to ask more questions about this x. so let me understands. the right now like the revenue in the sense is the tax ref now. in this case we see the property tax and transfer and business tax are down but sales and hotel tax are up this is when we are gang for fiscal 23/24. in this case, we see over all a deficit of mite right now 7 that in the fiscal year 23/twr we see a 273.8 million dollars deficit with the next year 354.4 million dollars deficit. and so with the slide 7, and that does mean triggering we are allowed to tap in the 380.3 million? >> no. the economic stabilization reserves they are looking only at the ref now line of the

picture. dp this ref now is increasing not very much but getting slowly larger yearly. it is 10, 11, 12 not big but it is going pump approximate because of that we are not eligible it with draw we with draw if it guess 10, 9, 8 on ref now side. reserve rowels inspect with expenditures. >> right. what you are saying is even though we -- even in all, all categories of the tax ref now that is facing deficits the fact we are in this case sales and hotel tax increasing, and we see positive like in black not red. you know not positive gaining we are not allowed tap in the existing economic stabilization reserve of 380.3 million however that the rest of it about the

360 million we seat list of like state emergency grant they only have their own trigering suspensions various. each one of them. we are that is not upon upon dependent on revenue. >> that's correct. that's all i have. colleagues any questions at all? >> no. i think we are good and like i think -- it stipulate not good news for us. i think that this is a mobile home we understand that we were projected at 225. for this fiscal deficit you in higher. therapy for the work that all of you are doing. i know it is not included in this hearing. because you touched up on in

terms of expenditure side and what is to come. ipmented to dive keeper. there are more w to do. seems to be a lot of unknown leading to june first before the mayor proposed her budget. but looking at some of the pending and proposed policy decision the administration is making, of course, like i think with this board, too. that is the budget process. as we are approaching looking at analyzation the shelter capacity, so far like besides are there anything else. i know you mention there is a listing. how do you identify these are these the biggest ticket item in your long list of pending policy

decisions? or like what are your i want to understands. they have been the subjection at this board and the mayor office had with many of you. we wanted highlight those as examples but they are not the biggest items, too. a mix of policy and topic of conversation and ticket item. i think with that said, what would be your biggest ticket item in terms of pending what is the biggest portion of your expenditure you have yet to decided on? hard to answera this time about

a single itemism go back to the mayor's policy priorities some of thosor that list here. that is maintaining essential services and foreseeing costs going up this is a cost. it is public safety. continuing to make surety police department has resources they need that will be a major cost. it is sustaining the shelter exclusive we have able to do more. there is more information that will come the next few weeks in short order. the governor's budget. and another revenue update. and the pending decision. the mou negotiated a lot of

change and make sure we are using the updated information possible. before we make the and also understand that's correct. now we assume the state does not change the allingcasion. >> will we have any will we see changes to this fiscal year. nothing to suggest the state will change again we'll see know more bh we seat may revise. the may revise we will see that decision? >> i believe they need to indicate it by then. there has not been trailing legislation yet introduced. that suggest they will change e

rhythm allocations. the state is in a major deficit and proposed ways to close that. that men a tool should they choose. we have not seen anything. who i we say that for this members who wish to speak are in person some line up now to sfeek. for those remote call

415-655-0001, access code: 2485 642 0957 ## then press star 3. will no in person speakers here. mr. lamb unmute our caller, please. thanks. so i thank you is when they call a sobering report the numbers in the report are big and real. several brief thoughts i think good to have similar language in the verse charter set asides and mou's whether the joint report deficit projection trigers deferral of the baseline or salary increases.

there is some consistency but some not consistency. we have small are agencies and departments this could be clut everied and that contrains our ability to provide program and services they all have on

volatile revenue sources for general fund use and end by thanking michelle racea and dan and their staff for their work on this report and getting the numbers right. thank you very much. opinion comment is closed. you would like to condition to the call of the chair y. we need a second. >> >> please mr. clerk call the role. >> on that motion vice chair

chan and seconded by member walton this hearing continues to the call of the chair. vice chair mandelman. >> aye >> member safai. >> aye. >> member ronen. >> aye. >> member walton. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> aye wrchl we have 5 aye's. >> thank you and the motion passes and are there other business before us today >> this concludes your business. >> thank you the meeting is adjourned.

good morning and welcome to the monday, april 10, 2023 meeting of the rules committee of the board of supervisor i'm supervisor dorse competence joined by vice chair walton and member safai. i want to express our graft to youed to our clerk mr. victor young and thanks also to the team at sfgovtv for facilitating and broadcasting today's meeting our producer today, ms. janet:the board of spierzs are convening hybrid meetings allowing remote access and

public comment via phone. equal access of essential and will be taking comment as follows. first it will be taken on each item. those in person will speak first and then take those on the phone bienful for those watching 26, 98 and 99 and sfgov.org the call in number is streaming. the number is 415-655-0001. then enter access code: 2480 819 2523 ##. you will be in listening mode. when your item come up and public comment is called those in person lineup to speak and those on the telephone dial star 3 to be added to the peeshg line if youor the telephone turn down all listening device.

we'll take public ment from those in the room first then the phone line. you may submit is in writing to myself the rules clerk victor. young sfgov.org. if you commit is via e mill tell be forwarded to be included as part of the file. you may send written comment to our office at city hall 1 dr. carlton b. goodlett place room to 44. san francisco, california 94102. that completes my comments. >> thank you. call item one. >> item one is an ordinance amending the code to revise the duties of small business commission replacing the duty to cord mate application and selection process to recognize contributions by small bye-byes during mall business among a duty to coordinate activities to encourage the public to support

mall business during mall business mont. >> thank you. today we are joined by aaron peskin and katy tang from the office of small business who can speak. president peskin, welcome. >> thank you. member of rowel this is is a relatively small chink to section 2a.240 of the add stritive code relates to power and duties of the small business commission. it is a rather pedestrian amendment that changes the over low prittive recipe that i think but i may be wrong. supervisor chris daly originally drafted decades ago upon the creation of small business which provision prescribed the small business commission would go

through an application selection press for a public event honoring mall business owners this broadens that requiring that during small accident month. the department coordinate activities to encourage the yes or no public to support small businesses in the city and county of can san francisco. i have done this change in coordination with katy tang the director of the mall business office. and we are here to answer questions that you may have. >> thank you. colleagues, are there any? questions? >> okay. i thank you is pretty straightforward. mr. clerk. open this up to public comment. >> yes. if you don't mind we are double checking seems that our online sfgovtv streaming has an error.

we want to be sure that is working before we proceed any further. sfgovtv stroll suggest down at the moment can you take a few minute recess? >> why don't we take a recess for 5

we are reconvening. we are reconvening. sorry for the delay we had a problem with our strolling service app and it is back up and running. we were take public comment for item one i will resume with that. >> members of the public who wish to speak on item one and joining in person lineup. for those listening we mote call 415-655-0001. access code: 2480 819 2523 ## then star 3 to enter the queue. you will need to press star 3 to enter the line of the for those in the queue wait until the system indicates you have been unmute exclude begin your comments. there is nobody in the room for public comment dom we have anybody on the phone line for public ment in well is nobody on

the phone line for public comment at this time thank you. public comment is now closed. i would like to make a motion to send item one, which is administrative code provisions good afternooning the small business commission dauts stot full board. >> on the motion vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. iot motion passes without objection. >> thank you, mr. young. item one guess to the board with a positive recommendation. item 2 is an ordinance amending the code to remove the minimal cost weighing for design, build and contractor best value procure am and consideration of contract and performance evidence and consider contractors for award of public

works contract. >> thank you. we are joined by supervisor mandelman the sponsor. welcome. the floor is yours >> thank you, chair dorsey. the legislation you have before you today respondses to and implements 2 recommendations of 2 different civil grand juries one report came out in june of 2021. specifically looking at van ness brt challenges. and the other came out in april of 22. and looking for broadly at capitol project delivery. and so. initially we felt to combine the 2 sets of recommendations. we have in the course of conversation with city stake holders determined it might make sense to operate them out.

as currently drafted it would do 2 things. first, thing, this is out of june 21 report, would be to amend the administrative code to cost criteria in award of construction management general contractor or cmg conrackets and allow for department discretion weighing cost and noncosts on a case by case basis. the advance nesz brt wagz lives an allowance of low are waiting threshold but i think the grand jury concluded and others confirms cost waiting for contracts is not the right way tong about them and should think about the value of the contract and the capacity of the contractor to deliver the thing we are asking for rather than in the front end of what may be a long project get cost estimates they have no religion to what

may happen and do fighting about change orders for 10 years. so that , the first change would be that. the second thing the legislation would do is require and this is based on the 2022 civil grant jury report require chapter 6 departments to consider a contractor past performance when evaluating the award by requiring consult pass contractor performance evaluations. we did the prior board did mandate creation of a contractor performance data base that data base has not been used. we felt it could not hurt to take this to the grand injury recommendation we require departments to consult in data base. you know considering the feedback from the stake holders the gravity of the issue in the need to address our capitol project delivery challenges the

general feeling that from some and i'm not sure we are on board but the feeling this data base is in the necessarily the right way to improve performance, what i am going to ask you to do is move forward the one piece of this that is dealing with the waiting of cost criteria from the 2021 report. and hold the other one in committee to have more conversation busy whether this makes sense or bring in something else. so. procedurally that would be duplicating the file. separating the 2 legislation and then advancing a dub indicated amending out the past performance piece as -- my description is this is in the as good as the amendments we are circulated by my staff earlier but duplicate the file.

amend out the 2022 pieces related to the data base and forward the duplicated file with the cost provisions to the full board with positive recommendation. in addition to my staff who worked on this jacob and ross green of course want to thank the civil grand jury and taylor and city attorney's office for her work. i hope that is clear i'm happy to answer questions. >> great. thank you, supervisor mandelman i want to express my gratitude for you and your team for your work on this and i will echo your thanks to the civil grand jury for their work as well and i will say that especially i shareit@cbsaustin.com sentiment avoiding situations where we fight over change orders i have seen from my time in the city attorney's office nobody win in

that situation. i value your work and i don't see anybody with questions.offi situation. i value your work and i don't see anybody with questions. members when would like to speak lineup at the podium. row motely, call 415-655-0001, access code: 2480 819 2523 ##, star 3 to enter the queue. there is nobody here for public ment and no one on the line. public comment is closed.

mr. clerk i would like to make the motion to amend the supervisor mandelman? >> i believe the first thing that a member of the committee i'm not sure i can, somebody needs to request the clerk duplicate the file. then after that, request for the chair but and then somebody would make a motion to amend the duplicated file in the ways that are shown in the amendments we circulated today. >> thank you. mr. clerk a roll call on the motion to duplicate the file. >> no need for a motion. >> the motion to amend. >> yes. i believe the there is a motion to amend the duplicated version. >> yes.

to only list the cost criteria recommendation. >> on this motion to amend. >> vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> are chair dorsey. >> aye. iot megz passes without objection. >> thank you a unanimous vote item 2 is amended goes to the full board. >> not yet >> machine if i may. someone would need to make a motion to forward the file as amended to the board with positive recommendation. >> so moved. >> yes. the motion is to recommend the as amended to the full board. correct. duplicated file >> coupeidated version. >> on this motion, vice chair walton.

>> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion masz passes without objection and need a motion on the original version. >> so moved. >> i request to be held to the call of the chair. >> move to the original version well is a motion to continue to the call of the chair. vice chair walton. >> aye >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion passes. >> thank you. thank you supervisor mandelman. why thank you, mr. young. mr. clerk call the next item >> item low a hear to consider accounting a member 2 members ending 2024 and a member ending september first of 25 to the assessment appeal's board number

3. >> i want to thank the 2 applicants for wellingness to serve on assessment board 3. we have 2 applicants joining you one remotely. they have applied for different seats more from marc dickow applying for seat number 5 yoochl welcome. the floor is yours >> thank you. supervisors. appreciate you consideration my application. i robbery residents of san francisco since 1990. a homeowner in san francisco since 1995. i have been in the real estate business my whole life. my mother is still a real estate broke exert licensed and a broker in san francisco for the past 14 years. i have owned a boutique brokerage in san francisco dealing with residential real

estate and a practicing realtor. and i served on the board of san francisco organization of role tors the past 8 years and the president in 2020. i serve on the national association of realtors board of directors as well of the california association of realtor board of directors i am the chair for the state of california. for california association of realtors. i thank you makes me qualified help in assessment appeals. i have been around apraisers my whole life. i'm a nobody's person i appreciate the values ever rolls royce in san francisco and watched our real estate values go up and down the past 30 years. i believe i can serve well. >> thank you, mr. dickow. >> thank you.

>> vice chair walton. >> thank you chair dorsey. i have a question you talked about qualification what is makes you want to take on this role. >> yes, good question. i like serving our i have served in a lot of boards i'm very involved in what is going on in our community especially with the real estate community. i seat need for assessment appeal and is know that, that is a position which needs to be filled and as i said i'm a nobody's person i enjoy the looking at the values of real estate and hope i can help the public that has appeals to settle their matters. >> thank you. great. thank you vice chair walton. no further questions or comments.

supervisor safai. i will say thank you for your wellingness to serve it is an important role. so many individual homeowners and in particular have to come with anxiety to this in front of this body to have someone with experience that understands both sides of the argument and be fair is important. we are happy happy to support you today. >> thank you, supervisor. >> thank you all. >> thank you. next hear from mr. su. i believe is john su is joining remote >> i'm john su. >> can you hear me? >> we hear you >> and also i turn on the camera to my computer i'm not sure if you hear or see me through the >> yes. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you. good morning and i'm john su.

i am a real estate broker in california since 2012 and licensed insurance agency in california since 2014 my experience is in property management i manage properties for 20 years. i started first in college and doing it basically informally. and started becoming interested in real estate i took real estate classes in college in 2006 and got my associates in real estate in 2008 i went to law school at university of nebraska from 2008-11. i have a law degree i'm not a practicing attorney in the state of california but i do have experience with law. i worked at law firms i have clerked for a jung. management and [inaudible]

helped clients sell and also manage and buy real estate including land and so forth. i have transactional real estate experience. and i also have the educational background. hopefully i can utilize my experience and serve the board and people of san francisco. i live in albany, california across the bay. i am a local as well. >> thank you, mr. su. >> okay. i want tos express our my gratitude for your wellingness to serve. seeing no one on the roster for further questions or comments mr. clerk open up to public comment? >> yes, members who wish to peek and joining in person lineup at this time. for those remote call 415-655-0001, access code: 2480 819 2523 ## then star 3 to enter the speaker's queue.

for those in the queue continue on wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted then begin your comment. no speakers in person. we are moving to our public comment line there is nobody on the line for public comment. >> thank you, mr. clerk. public comment is closed. and i because we had a bit of a delay and had to take a recess because of technology issues presented a scheduling challenge i want to make a motion to excuse member safai. >> yes, on the motion to excuse. vice chair walton. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> motion to excuse member safai

for item 3 approved without objection with member safai being excused. >> thank you, mr. clerk. i would like to make a motion to recommend marc dickous for seat 5 and john su to go to the full burden board >> vice chair walton. >> aye. >> member safai. >> excused. >> chair dorsey. >> aye

>> the motion passes with supervisor safai excused. >> thank you, then item 3 goes business. >> that completes the agenda. >> thank you, everyone. we are adjourned. hi, sandy, how are you? >> hi, fine, thank you. how are you? >> good. i want to ask you what inspired you to be a paramedic? >> that's a good question. you know, i wanted to go into med school and after i found out how much time it took and all of that, i decided that that was going to be a little too much schooling, but i still wanted to figure out a way that i could provide medical care and doing that as an emt as well as a paramedic was a way to do that. >> can you give me a break down

of a typical day for you? >> i come to work and sit at my desk and then i respond to e-mails and try to figure out what are some of the issues we need to address. can we hire more people. what kinds of policies we want to try to create that will help us do our job as ems. >> what does it take to be a female paramedic? >> you know, it takes quite a bit of schooling, but also required somebody who's empathetic. it can be a very stressful job and so we want people to be able to hand that on a day-to-day basis. >> so what's your greatest satisfaction in your job? >> trying to make sure that the work that we provide and the services that we provide to the community is the best that we can in ems so that when we go out to see you if you call us for an emergency, that we'll be able to treat you in the best way possible and that you get the care as quickly and as effectively as possible. >> why is it important for young girls, women of color to

see women in these roles? >> i think it really is important for us to be able to get into these roles because we are effective, we are able to reach out to the community. we are able to do the job in a very effective manner and to be able to relate to the community and be able to do that is one of the best things that we can do. and people of color and as women of color, you know, we are in a great position to be able to do that. [music] i'm angela romero a lieutenant with the san francisco fire department. i'm a san francisco native. went to an all girl's school st. john and the grammar school prior and went to san francisco state. where i got a degree. and i am fortunate to live in the sdpae raise my family here. i received a degree in

international marketing. i thought, i will be a buyer and travel all over the world. it did not happen like that. i went in business in retail but felt like i had it in mow to help others. when i decided to do a career change, it was my husband who said, hey, you are athletic and you care about your community and the city that we live in. go with me and get an interest card for the fire department. it is caring for my community and the citizens of san francisco does not matter what their make up is or their situation. that is most important to me. taking care of the citizens. i like teaching now. i like sharing my knowledge in the experiences with the young generation coming in new recruits. as a latina, i'm proud of when my culture can bring to this

job. and that is a sense of family. which this is my second family. it was and started with my class. the 97th class. that's hai tell my recruits. you learn to help each other we cannot do this job alone. i already had a family i was married and had a family when i -- began to pursue the fire department. it was a lot of work. took me away from my family. but if it was not for them, i mean encouragement i received, i don't think i would have made it through. so, very happy that i had a family like that and happy that i joined this family. because i have met and worked with very incredible men and women of all walks of life who helped me to get to where i am

at. [music] >> you know, i remember when i was a teenager, they did i think it was on the grammys, boss scags narrated the san francisco scene and they did a spot on it and how it's evolved and convergence of multi culture and the emergence of gay community, lgbtq, it was not even called that then.

>> so like any good listening back then, i played softball and a friend on the team said, the fire department is recruiting women. i took the test in 88 and 89 i got hired. and i always say this, it was like a perfect career, it was like social work, i love that connecting and helping people aspect and physical. so i was like a social worker with an ax basically. and i just thought, this is like, this is it, i hit the jackpot. part of my story is, i grew up across the street from a fire station and as a young girl, i use today love going in there and would go in there whenever my parents voted, they the old fashion voting machines. sxifs in awe of the place but i never saw anybody that looked anything like me. it was all men, it was all white men and so, i never knew

that i could do that. this was in the 70s. and i worked in several different things and i was at the pride parade in 1991. >> and the chief of the department, she i did give her courtesy card to come in, i remember it to this day, june 30th. the hand and hand together and i was with a friend of mine and fire fighter named anita prattly came up to me and we had a mutual friend and we didn't meet. and she came by the table and as soon as i looked at her, i said hi o to my friend, i could see she was super athletic. >> and she knew my friend and she said hey, do you want to be a fire fighter, here's an interest card, join us. >> there was something about her that could roll with the

punches and also give a few punches. she would be great and i just knew it. i did give her the courtesy card. it was my greatest achievement. >> and it was something i saw myself, yeah, i love a good crisis. and i'm good in crisis and i'm good on thinking on my feet. and i'm you know, super fit and physical, maybe i can do this awesome. >> but just in terms of pride in general, being able to go to pride and be who we are and be who i am, it's like the sense of digity and equality and inclusion. i was always incredibly proud to represent the community and to be doing service for the community, because that's what i love doing.

>> coming to san francisco for me, was really key because i love the city. the city is so vibrant and diversity is really, it's one of its treasures. so being part of a department that represents diversity is huge and so important to me that we welcome everyone. and not just face value, truly to integrate to have diversity, have representation not just on the fire fighter level but all levels in this department, all ranks up and down the chain of command. it's huge and it's, stepping in as a woman of color as part of the lgbtq community, means more than just myself, right. i represent more than just myself. but as a leader, other people in this department, other people in the community that are looking at me and seeing

that there is space for them. and so that is really creating space for everyone. >> when i first joined the military, it was still under don't ask don't tell. i had to be super cautious about what i was doing. i was still figuring out what i was doing. i joined when i was 19, i knew i was part of the community i was not accepting yet. my first duty station was officer guam and that's where i got to explore who i was. and being under the umbrella of don't ask don't tell, and having a friend being separated because he was gay. it was very rule. had you to make sure that you were following the rules you needed to do everything you need today do. i was fortunate to be there

when don't ask don't tell was repealed. you find people who are making a big deal about it, the next day everybody went to work like nothing happened. we were accepted and nobody made a big deal about it. work performance was even better because you didn't have to hide something and worry about hiding. the transition from that world into this one is basically the exact same. i was able to just jump in and just you know, not even test the waters. >> i grew up with firefighters, my uncle and cuss infor a volunteer department in canada. here it's quite different, bigger department, a lot of different people. you know, just working with san francisco i really enjoy having all the different personalities, background,

experiences, i'm a pro lead rhyme now. i'm a year into my probation and i'm already finished. and i felt like everybody has brought me in and show me what they know. and regardless of my sexuality, my gender, my race, i was 28 when i decided to change my career and go any different direction. i'm 35 now just starting out in a whole different field. >> san francisco has a large population of lgbtq community in general and our department is reflective on that. the one thing i love about the san francisco fire department, is we do look like the community we serve and we're making every strife to reflect that. so even in our out reach, recruitment efforts, we're trying to make sure that every single person including the lgbtq community has an opportunity to become a member

of our department. soz a subpoena officer, it's important to make sure that i welcome my crew. that includes every single member that is on my apparatus, i feel we can do a better job. >> my dad was a football coach and he taught me to persevere and be committed and i'm showing that i'm doing that. i'm very proud to say that i get to start my career off as a fire fighter for the san francisco fire department. and i'm proud to be who i am, proud to be all the colors that i represent, proud to be, you know, i love being a woman in the department and to feel comfortable with who i am and very secure and excited to come to work. >> you know, one thing my mom also en grained anything we set our heart to and anything we

wanted to do, the only thing stopping us was us. it's my dream to be a fire department member and i'm here, being changed because of who i was and now being able to out and proud of who i am, it's, i feel it should mean something. >> it's important as a san francisco fire fighter, that we understand the community that we serve. it's important that our department is made up of different genders, different ethnicities, different sexual orientations, because the community that we serve need to reflect the apparatus. >> i've seen, i've seen the evolution of this department, i've seen it change through the years. we're in a better place than we were many years ago. i think we continue to evolve. i'm really hopeful for this next generation of leaders who

do smart, determined, lead with heart and i'm hopeful for our future for this department going forward. >> we're your department. we're here for you. we're you and that, and i really believe that san francisco really embodies that. i tell you, it was the greatest decision i ever made. i kept thinking, my gosh if i didn't play softball i wonder if i would have heard about it. it's funny you plan in life and gu to college and you plan your next steps, but the most profound decision nz life, is how you meet people are random. i was meant to be i think and it was such a great fit being that social worker with the ax, that's it. >> so i see san francisco and

san francisco leadership and government as a beacon for the entire country. because we are so up front about what we believe in, we're really up front about inclusivity and i know that, others look at us, many look to us. we've had other departments, contact us in terms of how do you, how do you do this? how do you create a diverse equitable and inclusive workforce? and so, but i would be lying if i said that we don't have any problems in california or in san francisco or in the department. we are out liars, sure? are we doing our best again to address those things with implicit bias training? with changing the culture, our department has made huge huge leaps as has the city and i really feel like san francisco is part of the solution to

moving forward in a better way. people are individuals, there are a lot of different types of people in this world and celebrating our differences is what pride is all about. fire department ems at station 49. i was born raise in the oak land

my dad is mexican my mom is black i was playing soft ball this hayward and directly behind our soft ball field is an empty field. and almost every day at practice i saw this tiny woman leading the big people in work outs and eventual low i look in the and found out she was teaching how to do physical trin to get people red to work in the fire department. that peeked my interest. the oak lan fire department was the first fire department i did. i did a firefighter one training program there. that got me into fire whim start the paramedic school i went to city college and fell in love with the city. i did nile internship at station 49. it was wonder. . i learned the san francisco wave doing things. like the wild, wild west, every day. i loved it was a family

environment here. that made mow say san fan fire department, that's i didn't want to be. i avoided science my entire education up to becoming a paramedic. i failed my first time taking my emt registry. i hope well is nobody out there that gets discouraged if this happens. you have opportunity to take again. i d. i came back. took it, passed and continued to paramedic and pass the my registry the first time. being a woman in the fire department i am a minority here. a minority in multiple aspects. i'm a woman. biracial i'm the only black woman paramedic in the ems position. it is insane and i hope i encourage other women to join this profession that does not

represent the city of san francisco. i love to show up on a scene and i can see the comfort in member who men looks like me or my family members they see me and they are comforts. i hope there are women that see me and see themselves in me and know they can do this job limp i have a 20 month old daughter at home. i would like to teach my daughter it is okay to say no as a woman and have and voice that opinion. and i did a good job of that already. >> i really hope that anybody considering this field schedule a ride along. go to your local deputy or knock on an ambulance window can ask to schedule a ride along. that is irrelevant how diit my first couple ride alongs i saw

things that blew my mind and said, that's what i want to do with my life. [music] >> my name is tiffany cobb and i work for the san francisco fire department. i was raised by a single parent. i grew up with a very strong work ethic mental

ity. i would like to compare it to a bar back and anticipated the needs and the call. you will provide the needs and complete the call. >> the favorite part of the job is when i can actually connect with a patient and utilize your people skills as a human being. sometimes it's not a medical need. they just want someone to talk to, someone to listen to and want to be seen as a person and want to be recognized and see them as they are. those are my important calls. i remember being a seven or nine year old girl and never seen anyone like me in a fire engine

and that gave me hope that i can do that. there are people like me that can do that job. sometimes people need to feel nurtured and feel safe. i feel like i can bring that to my patients. >> you maybe feel afraid. just try it out. that's what i did. just never give up. i was told no. i failed the fire academy. i'm still here and i never quit. just learn from your mistakes and never give up on yourself. i'm in station 49. eventually i would like to utilize my skills as a fire paramedic and hopefully become an officer some

day. >> for san francisco, i said this in my interview, it's like the new york of the west coast. it has everything i wanted to be a part of. it has ems and has a rich history and blue collar history which i absolutely love. i want to be a part of that.

>> i'm connie chan district one supervisor and welcome to the

richmond. >> i'm an immigrant and came to san francisco china town when i was 13 years old with my mom and brother. my first job is at the community organizer for public safety with san francisco state. and land in the city hall and became a legislative aid to sophie maxwell. went through city departments when kamala harris was our district attorney i'm proud to represent the richmondad district supervisor. [music] we have great

neighborhood commercial corridors that need to be protected. the reason why we launched the neighborhood business for supporting the [inaudible] for 15 years special more. we have the legacy business program the business around for 30 years or more and thought, you know, we gotta make sure the next generation contains for generations to come. am i'm ruth the owner of hamburger haven we came back on july 11. we were opened in 1968 at that time i believe one of the owners of mestart today went through a guy named andy in the early 70s and my father took it mid 70s. >> originally was just a burger joint. open late nights.

then it changed over the years and became the breakfast staple. we specialize in breakfast, brunch come lunch now. i love this neighborhood. i grew up here. and it feels like home. i walk down the block and recognize people of people say hello. you say hello you talk and joke. has that familiar environment that is enjoyable and i have not experienced anywhere else. there are many things i would like to see improve ams the things we might see are making sure that our tenants stay housed our small business in tact and those are the solutions that will contain to push to make sure that you know our communities can take root, stay and thrive. >> i'm proud of you know,

welcoming folks to thechmond. everyone loch its we got farmer's market every sunday there. the you see really business at the noaa. ice cream at toy folks and going to chop for book like green apple. and that's when you like the deal is pizza place haall families love. you will see a lot of great chinese shops that is readily available for everyone. >> and that is just thein are richmond there is more to do in the richmond. what is love is the theatre. >> i mean adam and with my wife jamie, own little company called cinema sf we operate the balboa theatre. the vocabularying theatre on sacramento and soon the 4 star on clement. >> balboa theatre opened in 1926 and servicing this outer

richmond neighborhood since then. and close on the heels the 4 star opens since 1913. >> when you come in to a movie theatre, the rest of the world has to be left behind. but you get e mersed in the world that is film makers made for you. that is a special experience to very much we can all think of the movies that we saw in the big screen of with everybody screaming or laughing or crying. it is a shared human experience that you get when you go in to places that are gatherings and artist presented to you. >> a shared experience is the most precious. and the popcorn. [laughter]. at the balboa especially, we stroif to have movies for people of every generation from the pop corn palace movies on the

weekend mornings, for families and kids. this is for everybody of all ages. >> what is great about the richmond is it is a neighborhood of the immigrants. belongs to immigrants not ap i immigrants you will see that there are also a huge population of rush wrans and ukrainian immigrants they stay united you am see that the support they lend to each other as a community. and cinderella bakery is another legacy business. if you go on the website it is known as a russian bakery. the first thing you see their pledge to support the ukrainian community. you will see the unity in the richmond i'm so proud of our immigrant community in the rich monthed. >> my dad immigrate friday iran the reason he stayed was because

of the restaurant. has more centamential value it is the reasonable we are in this country. when he had an opportunity to take over the instruct he stayed that is why we are here part of our legacy and san francisco history and like to keep it going for years to come. >> another moment i'm proud to be supporting the richmond and the only asian american woman elect in the office and as an immigrant that is not happen nothing 3 decades. you see it is my ability to represent especially the asian-american community. in my case the chinese speaking elders in our community that really can allow me to communicate with them directly. i'm program director of adult

day centers. i have been here for 7 years i love to help the communities and help and the people with disability. i foal a connection with them. i am anim grant i love helping our community and new immigrants and improvements. >> if you want nature, richmond is the neighborhood to go we are between ocean beach heights and golden gate park. >> i love the outer richmond. for me this is the single best neighborhood in san francisco. everybody knows each other. people have been living here forever. it is young and old. the ocean is really near by. and so there is that out doors ocean vibe to it. there are places to seat golden

gate bridge it is amazing. businesses are all small mom and pop businesses. houses get passed down generation to generation. it has a small town feel but you know you are in a big city at the same time. it's got a unique flavor i don't see in other neighborhoods j. it is about being inclusive we are inclusive and welcome the communities, anybody should feel welcome and belong here and shop local, eat local. we believe that with that support and that network it come in full circle. it is passing on kinds knows. that's when richmond is about that we are together at once. welcome to the richmond. [music]

>> good morning and welcome to the recessed april 11th 2023 board of supervisors meeting today being april 12th. at approximately 9:33 in the morning. call the roll. >> >> checking with sfgovtv that the public comment line is connected. >> we are. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr.