homeless and people that are caught up with their addiction because now, i feel like i can give them hope. it reminds you every day of where i used to be and where i am at now. >> good morning welcome to april 14, 2023 meeting of the san francisco ethic's commission. it is is live to sfgov.org. members of the opinion may attend in person or bypass phone or web ex platform.

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>> aye. >> chair lee. >> aye. >> commissioner romano. >> aye. chairly you have a quorum. >> thank you. >> now agenda item 2. which is public comment on matters not appearing on the agenda. >> we are checking to see if there are callers. no one in public. sfgovtv do we have callers in the queue? i'm sorry. one caller in the queue.

>> welcome. your threap minutes begins now. good morning. my name is ellen lee zhou i was a public healing worker for 10 years, i am a union delegate representing government employee. i have been a residents for san francisco for more than 37 years. i care about my city. i was the one running for mir in 2018 and 19. you the ethic's commissioner and the department have been [inaudible] after i run for mayor. i have been coming to ethic commission for public hearing with many government employees. even they in 2016, 17, 18, 19,

2020, 21. the last time i spoke to you ethic commission was in august 13, 2021. which i spoke out san francisco has been running a government like communism. now we learn it has been controlled by the [inaudible] the people's enemy in our g. the most public elected officials and the leaders are pay and bought in office. to purpose low impose agenda 21 of the which is agenda 2030 now. it is one role order government of san francisco has been trying to do. i report government leaders lie about the pandemic covid-19. i report crime against humanity forcing covid-19 vaccinations for school, business and jobs.

now we see more people dying from vaccination. san francisco still had a policy communism policy. no vaccination no job. i was [inaudible] for reporting facts and data about government leaders and officials lie to the. then i was terminated by my public work in september 2022. after i reported crime against humanity. as of today april 14, upon 2023, we unvaccinated government employees thousands of us still have 5 active lawsuits against the mayor, those officials, city leaders about lying to the public by forcing vaccination illegally violate people's medical choice. religious freedom, constitutional right.

now we see more people sick and dieing from forcing vaccination. may god our creator sends [inaudible] angels to remove those in the government. >> your 3 minutes has expired. next caller. public comment is closed. now let's move to consent calendar. as noted thereupon be no separate discussions on consent item unless a request is med by commission member or a member of the public in attendance. in which event the matter will be remove friday consent and considered as a separate item. if a commissioner asked to discuss the item that item be taken up following action on

consent items on the regular calendar for discussion and action. i first would want to remove item 6 for the next commission discussion. i also would like to remove items 9 and 10 to be considered on the regular calendar. any other items? yes. i request items 8 and 11 removed from consent. >> okay. okay. so do i have a motion to approve consent cal dares item 3, 4, 5, 7? so moved. >> second. >> public comment, please? >> let's go.

we have no public comment in person. and we do have on 2 callers in the queue. >> welcome, your 3 minutes begins now. we have 2 with hands raised. can you hear me now? yes. >> great. david pill pelf good morningful i like to pull item 40 act be executive director's report. thanks. >> we have a second caller in the queue >> welcome, your 3 minutes begins now. >> i'm ellen lee i spoke on the

item before everybody spoke. i oppose the ethic commission condition to do public business without public knowledge. you look around your room. you don't see a lot of people you don't see a lot of people in zoom and webinar. what you have been doing it is inside job nothing to do with the public. earlier i said as. today many people dying on the street. ethic commission did nothing to stop people over doze on the street. did nothing to the homeless. people are dieing and suffering. too many sources fire more than 2500 public employees. unvaccinated employees include

many mreeshgs firemen. i am here today to inform you if ethic mission continue to do monkey business like you have been doing, you report you prepare the report but no b. nothing! no benefit for the public. may god sends death angels to remove the government leaders and public official his continue to work for satan. may god and the upon one government in san francisco, approximate in >>ys us mighty name amen. god bless san francisco. return to god return to jesus. in jooerz holy name. god bless you all and i hope you understand you are representing upons communism in san

francisco. because none of you speak the truth you don't stand up for the people who work for the government. thank you. i want to make a point. no matter how you feel about, calling for the death for public official system good for public ment or civic engagement. i think this this commission should interrupt people make inappropriate comments on public comment. i engourj to you do so in the future. >> there is no more callers >> okay. public ment is closed. since we have a member of the public who requested will take out one of the items out so -- commissioner finlev would you like to amend your motion to

delete. >> 4. for a separate discussion. >> i guess i have a question not surety public can call out items from consent. >> yes, they can. >> do they have authority to remove it from consent. >> good morning deputy city attorney the by lies on the agenda states a member of the public can ask an item removed from consent. they can request does this mean it it is removed the implication is the commission would do this. i don't mind hearing the issue well is no action item it it is a report if the executive director. i think in the future if the caller wants to make a comment do that during the consent public comment. that said sure gift caller a chance to make remarks on that pointful i amend my motion to

ceteris paribus billions of the consent calendar. >> 3, 5 and 7. roll call. >> motion has been made. a second. no second. >> i will second. move it. jot motion made and seconded. take role >> commissioner finlev. >> aye >> chair lee >> aye >> commissioner romano. >> aye. approved unanimously >> let's go to agenda item now that it is on the regular agenda item 4 the acting executive director's report. >> i move because there is no real discussion or anything to vote on we have public comment if they wanted to comment otherwise i think we should move along

>> open public comment. >> david pilpel. you hear me. >> great. thank you. i didn't money to make a big deal i wanted to call attention to the budget update that is included in the acting report. i worry this the budget cuts requested will not allow perhaps some of the man datd functions of the commission to continue in the next 2 fitsical years. i think it is simple, either reduce those mandates or fund them. and i think that will we are limited in reducing upon the mandates that have been approved by voters. and i think it is perhaps unlikely the board of supervisors will move quickly to reduce mandates that it imposed

by ordinance. so i think the aisle is to fund the staff and nonsalary items if the budget to aluthe commission in the staff to exist to perform the mandated fungsz. again i wanted call attention to that i'm surety budget process will continue to play out and i'm not syria well is anything the commission can or should do urg than monitor the situation. thank you very much for listening. >> thank you. and i would encourage to you continue to participate throughout the budget process. we really need to keep. this commission operation to continue. thank you. and any other callers. no father callersch >> let's do we need it approve? >> no. >> okay. item 8. please.

>> commissioner. you move to -- we have to didn't you remove 6 or 7? >> 6 was continued. to next month. >> so i need to hello. i will recuse myself from item 8. not that i have financial interest in the subject of the investigation. but i have a family connection to the company and i don't continuing is appropriate i vote on the stipulation. why since we would require 3 votes, to move this forward and since there are only 2 of us, it will i would prosecute pose we move this to the next commission meeting. so let's go to agenda item 9. several of us had requested to

remove this. specific low on the penalty. item. so -- mr. ford u can you give us an update, please? >> sure. hello, pat ford director of enforcement. this matter is item 9 in the matter of y adu askue. this is a settlement agreement and for anybody watching not familiar enforce am matters row solved through a settlement agreement the commission needs to approve to be effective. or through the commission's hearing process. we will talk about later on. this is a settle am green light. this one involved 3 counts. one, for contracting with the city while serving as a city officer. the respondent at the time was a mfbt san francisco art's commission. the other 2 counts are for financial conflicts of interest.

the respond act took 2 governmental actions on matters that involved a financial interest for him. so, the penalties are 2 thousand dollars for contracting with the city while serving as a city officer. the second count is a financial conflict. the -- respond act voted on an item that was the project that he was the contractor for. counts 1 and 2 are related. count one for being a contractor you are not allowed do. and count twop in hi official capacity took an action on that contract. and that's why the penalty for count 2 is 4 thousand dollars. close not max of 5 thousand dollars. there is a height evened factor there. count 3 is a financial conflict at the lower penalty. 2500 dollars. because the merit that the respondent voted on was not

something he was involved in. he was involved with the subject of that decision on an unrelated project it is prohibited for him to take that action but not have the same level aggravation that count 2 does. that's why it has a lower pen. do you have additional questions, glad to answer that. hopeful low that is helpful for you. >> i didn't i think it is enforcement action. this is not appropriate penalty. i think irrespective of intentions the parties had this is in the appropriate, i think it is a good action and the thank the staff for working on this. >> i do have a question, mr. ford. the commission has given the authority to impose maximum penalties. and in this case, can you explain why you did not impose the maximum?

>> can i amend that the maximum 5 thousand dollars or 3 times the amount the person failed to reportful extended, gave or received. are we talking about over 4 million dollars in contracts and would that be 12 million dollars the max penalty. why yes this is a case the actual contract is something prohibited. should not have done this in theory yes. no where notoriety max. >> no >> right >> in terms of the 5 thousand dollars maximum, did in the chos to apply that. can you explain in? >> usually we try to reserve that 3x multiplier for cases where we think this is present to do. there is unjust enrichment the south american not have got that income it is a problem.

here we did not see an indication the respondent was able to use his office to get the contract. we didn't do is that. >> he voted approve the contract. >> that was after he already been selected to be the subcontractor. why then he needed to approve the over all project. why he would not have gotten paid it not approved? >> i should claire time he was not on the puc commission which is the commission this approved it. >> civic design and review. >> correct. why this needed to be approved before he would get paid? >> correct >> he did vote to approve his own project. >> yes. and that was 2.7 million dollars to him. why correct and the sole priority but. >> yes.

how many other voting members were there >> 5 member body. civic design review committee. >> he should have recused himself. >> absolutely. >> because of that i wonder why the mechanic mump. i understands jot maximum is that one we can go there. . at least for the lower threshold the maximum which is 5 thousand dollars you did not impose. i question this. compared to the huge contract he received this it is really not 8 thousand dollars. 8500 dollars is really, you know, nothing compared to the contract and i do agree with commissioner romano, he should have knew he should have recused himself from voting. and that was you know. you know when the vote was? was it unanimous?

we don't have information off hand. we have not discuss third degree. i assumed the commissioners it was too high not low. so -- i knowledge the high penalty may have appropriate i'm happy to refer to staff's judgment. it sends an important message and a level will make the point we are trying to make and hold this person accountable for his conduct. >> i have grave concern this what this -- sends the message because we had on going discussions on compared to you know what they receive through the contract. and you know a mission contract compared to 8500 dollars penalty. it is no comparison.

i would not approve i will not vote it approve this. settlement. and i ask staff to go become to revisit. >> can, i'm not going to vote to approve this either. i have similar concerns. can you say how you learned about this? issue? >> i want to say a complaint we received i want to talk with you it was a complaint >> not self disclosure? >> i got that wondering how it came b. member and we know who and what capacity and, yea. i need to get back with you what the details were and probably

not something i can share public low. that's why i asked. rather than voting today. a matter we can defer and then give you time to work on it as you see appropriate? yea. mechanically is this permissible. >> among other things given the money we are talking about i'm interested in the fine and i think a public airing what happened would be helpful not just a revisiting of the find that might require a full hearing because this is 4 million dollars this this person voted receive. >> yes, so. had we will do is go become to the respondsant. we will have the same discussion with him. we will try to reach a different settlement this reflected a higher pen then the hearing process. >> yes even if it proceeds not just the penalty i'm interested in. i think it there needs to be

more transparency about this case. you did an excellent upon job this is doyle read the document. i'd like more. >> yes, we can do that. should we what is the steps we need to do. vote to continue to the call of the chair. you could vote to reject the settlement if that's. can we take no action. and the matter will come before again >> that is fine, too. >> i propose we vote to reject this proposal. and director the staff to go back to work with the of parties. so i would prefer to do that. >> i second this

>> okay >> take a vote to do i have a motion to you made it i seconded. >> [laughter] okay. roll call. >> a motion has been made and seconded. pardon me we need public comment. >> we are taking checking to see if there are callers and taking public ment on agenda item 9. proposed stip ligz decision in the matter of ya k u askue. stand by. there are no callers. >> okay. public comment is closed. roll call. >> motion made and seconded i will take the roll. commissioner finlev. >> aye. why chair lee. why aye >> commissioner romano. why aye >> 3 votes your motion is approved unanimously. >> thank you. >> now to agenda item 10. >> can i skw a question of

council only 3 commissioners today every vote has tob unanimous to pass. >> correct. >> pure pressure. >> agenda item 10. commissioner romano, describe the store we this case. give a narrative and why you reached the conclusion you did? >> sure. of so. for the record, this case involved a current city commissioner. this case involved 3 counts. 2 for compensative advocacy and the third for failing to register and report as a lobbyist. respondent is gweneth boarden commissioner of mta. while serving as commissioner, she worked for a private client a restaurant.

she helped them seek a certain approval they need friday planning commission in order to have a space at their new restaurant, the permitted for use. and accepted payment from that restaurant to make communications wherewith city officers and city employees. which is unlawful. city officers are prohibited. shoes a former member of planning. >> that's correct. >> how much did she receive. >> received 12, 500. for the lobby contacts. >> correct. why representation of the restaurant we understand partly her service for things not involving contacting city receives but that is headlight compensation was for. >> so -- the contacts themselves were unlawful? >> in addition she was paid the contact city officers they constitute lobby contacts. lobby contacts have to register

as a lobbyist. report it it is counter intuitive she was present friday doing this in the first place. because she did them she was required to report. that's the third counts. we thought it was present the contacts were presented to accomplice more of the weight of the penalties on the compensated advocacy counts opposed the lobby counts. it was important to include lobby as a count so it was clear that is another violation that happened in this case. >> so the total penalty you in to 9 thousand dollars. >> why do you think this case deserves a higher penalty than the askue case? in this case that it was pretty clear that what this person was doing was unlawful.

which is true of the askue case but think this there was afternoon extensive series of things that this person did. she made over 30 contacts. 32 contacts with 6 separate employees. where as in the askue case it was 2 votes this were done. so we thank you in this case there was many, many more instances for this individual to realize this what she was doing was not appropriate. so we think that was an aggravating factor. also the fact she was on the planning commission. and then was enengage nothing advocacy increased the danger for undue influence and unfair advantage and the fact activelies not disclosed with the askue case this was done in a public proceeding the facts were readily available.

in this case it was not visible. >> she received a wifr to do this work. you are confusing with the askue case. received a wifr to do different things. compensated. advocacy waiver to work for architecture clients and make contacts with city commissions. >> the max is 3 times 12? times 3. the add have kaes accounts, yes. >> or could be 15,000. >> the maximum is 12, 500 times 3 for each count? >> i think it would be that number times 3. not for each count. >> no because i don't think we could replicate the amount that she earned across multiple counts >> it is 30-40 thousand dollars. >> that's correct.

the maximum. >> my concern with this one is number one, this individual served as a commissioner in various capacities over 10 years. which means she has gone through 10 trainings. so for count 3, i would i would want it see a higher penalty. the maximum because she should have known that she should have register as a lobbyist. i wonder why that was not imposed? and also for the advocacy, again, you know, it deserve to

be maximum penalty in my opinion. that's my concern. in this matter. you want to make the motion similar to what you did on the last? >> reject this proposal and direct the staff to go back to work with the individual and come back with another proposal. settlement. second >> i have a question from staff. >> public comment, please. public comment we are taking public comment on item 10. proposed stip ligz decision in the matters of upon gweneth borden. confirm there is no in person. public comment. hold on. we have one caller in the queue.

david pilpel. a couple of thoughts on this one. i understand this if you want to send it become for further discussion and negotiation that is fineful i suggest in something like this to have the penalty not exceed the total compensation the individual received and i think i heard this the individual received 12, 500 for the work it would seem to me the will total penalty should not exceed that amount. it seems -- although it does credit a deterrent affect it

seems unusual you would require more from spantds then and there they received for the alleged improper conduct. just a thought about that. and to the broader issue of stipulations general low temperature took me awhile to find the amount i had to go through the upon agenda want to staff report. it is not in the stipulation itself it is the last line on exhibit a. to the stipulation. i suggest in the future lift on the agenda for proposed stipulation decision in the matter of so-and-so. that the. proposal is for the spondant to pay, x or other [inaudible] call out the material terms on the agenda so it makes it clear to the public had the proposed

settlement scope is. thoughts to share. thank you for listening. >> thank you. public comment is closed. roll call. >> motion has been made and secondd and take role. commissioner finlev. >> aye. >> chair lee >> air >> commissioner romachineo. >> aye >> this motion pass unanimously. >> okay. item 11 proposed stipulation in the matter of [inaudible]. commissioner romano. gi want to make sure i understand this. this is somebody who failed to file a 700 form and participated in forget had mittee they were on. immigrant rights. >> and so it was the same. i understand they are 2 separate counts one for pail to register and one for continuing duties without registered. joy would say that would be

doubling count i prefer the penalty to one or the other i suggest the penalty of 500 dollars. >> go ahead. i think the fine is appropriate but since there are 3 of us anyone can hold this up. and the impact will be gets reject federal it does in the get approved. so, i think the fine is promote of the i think could have been one count -- >> i think -- sorry. i do have a question. usually when the commissioner forgot to file a 700 usually the specific commission staff to remind the commissioner. right? so they were given the opportunity to refile?

even though it is delayed? >> correct. the respond act was reminded to file t. we talk about this in the material facts. this reminders were sent march 15 and 30th by city add administrator filing officer. the respondent did not file ask then did file after talking to us we note that in here that the action was taken we think the minimum of 500 is appropriate. there is no -- reduced penalty 500 is minimum. >> correct. >> and because the respondent cooperated quickly filed the form. [inaudible] we peg today to that we thought it was appropriate to do. >> good. >> got it. >> and she file today a month after. >> that's correct. >> okay.

>> it was after our intervention but even though she knew she had failed to file? >> she had been noticed before the deadline of the second thing is because she talking about 2 separate items. she failed to file. and she took continued to vote. on commission matter, this is 2 separate penalties. >> correct. 2 violations of law. our take is it is important to keep them separate out of fairness to the commissioners who near low failed to file and ceased accyst they should not get same penalty. there needs to be a higher pen for that. >> good point he made. they are not it is not double whatever stacking there are people when failed to file and say i have not filedir will step

away from my commission. >> i was going on say there are circumstances commissioners just tap out. stop being involved in when they are doing including not filing and in the showing up to meetings they don't do anything. >> commissioner was engaged and did in the file the appropriate forms. why i don't know which is worse. when they are separate violations. >> i think goes to your job is worse than continuing to do it for the city but not filed. >> i appreciate. >> i would like to ask given the numbers that we have to deal with today i would like to ask if commissioner romachineo. you will not vote on this one. >>, no. >> sure. no. >> okay. no. move to. my proposal what i would vote for is the 500 fine on one count

or -- if you can't go lower 250 on both. that's when i suggest. but if this is wit for the commission to be here to over ride me. >> to clarify your issue is with the total amount opposed counts. you would be in favor of 2 counts but only the total penalty. i don't care how you get to 500 i think this is the right member it is about the amount. >> yes. >> per count. 500 total i don't care how you get there. >> 500 total for the penalty fought to file a form. this penalty amount to be clear would be equal to haeveryone else gets for just failing to

fight form. that's what i think this she did. if you want to provide evidence this she was trying to hide things or to -- somehow mislead the city committee and public that's fine i am open but i think from had i read the only thing i read show did her job i think is more beneficial to the city than the other examples and didn't file. she should have filed the form and a 500 fine is fine for this. >> if she had not been reminded i would be with you. she goat several reminds and still did not file is significant. enhancing factor. >> i do think that it was not like upon no one reminded her and did in the know expect this is a repeated offense. and the commission staff

reported 3 reminded her which she chose not to follow through until the commission staff contact her. did she say why she did not. sorry it interrupt. why she did in the file after reminded by the committee? >> senior investigator worked the case and he was sharing that told us she had personal sxshs travelling. >> okay. >> it was an extended period of time this is not a great justification. i think we cover third degree one and should. >> i do want to make sure the staff understands that it is in the like we want to you go back and come up with a number but to i do. >> we may have 2 numbers i do

not see. what will happen. >> 3 counts. >> right >> may be you can come back and give us a more detail. >> i mean you have to come become. >> yea. commissioner are machineo is daring mow to come back in the same amount and different body and this will get approved this it is what well, when knows this is one universe where this happens. or become with a number the 500 and i will vet to approve that. i might try bring it become notow of disrespect to save. standpoint time to see what additional commissioners think about it and finds out what the commission as a whole. if this is a no that would be more appropriate point. this would be a resetting. enforcement. money that we will not impose

penalties for voting disqualified. that is an important thing we need to know to continue all of our operations. >> there are different i'm not saying we are you know e racing lus from the book under this circumstance i think it mow this feel it is like double counting. i also appreciate if you informed the person of the situation. >> can you reminds us if i thought we had impose the penalties for commissioners who continue to vote. continue to carry out the duties as commissioners. who i in violation of in the filing 700? was i mistaken. i need to look if this was include on other case. would be if we found it before. you thought there was another incentive forfects to fight 700

timely. because that was one of the yes. that was the commission's intent when the rule was credited. in 2019. that was part of this project this was the thinking was. to create an incentive and to keep folks from taking actions the public was in the a levered of financial interests were >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> now go to regular. do we need to vote >> do we vote. >> do we need to? >> i think you can make a motion if you have a motion you like to make or i will make a motion to approve dualing motions. >> i will simplify it i will not street approve i move to sends it become to staff as discussd and on the next meeting.

>> second. >> okay. public comment. we are checking for callers in the queue. one caller in the queue. >> welcome, your 3 minutes begins now. >> david pilpel. look through this and hearing the discussion i don't know spondant and locked at conflict of code the immigrant right is i category one filer and i gots thing that gets me the most here is that we house the same category one filing obligations for people that actually employ folks and vet on contracts and have decisionmaking authority this body is more low advisory and i think it really calls attention to careful low

applying the disclosure categories. this should not be a level upon one filer forim guarantee rights. i just think that those bodies whether the board of supervisors, planning or mta that actually have decisionmaking third degree should be held to a higher standard like a level one file competence those that are advisory a lower level or novelty even in the code if their only function is to advise others and in the actually voting on something this implicates a financial interest. i think i agree with the commissioner on 500 the appropriate amount. but i think that therer appropriate counts here one is failure to file and the other is continuing to participate in the

absence of an appropriate filing those are my thoughts. thank you. public comment is closed. roll call. >> commissioner finlev. >> no. chair lee >> this it is a motion to reject this and sends it back. >> i'm rejecting that motion i think we will be back and do this over again. >> chair lee. >> aye. >> commissioner romano. >> aye >> mechanically i think we should try to approve it, will be rejected and the stipulation is rejected this is proper and coming back. gi was trying i know get to the same place i don't want to be on record rejecting i would approve this. i think it is cloner if the motion to approve fails.

the same place. that is the right place i move to accept the proposed stipulation presented by enforcement. and if no second we will land up in the same place. >> i will second. why it fine. okay. i will not second it then. why motion fails and we are done. >> okay. >> is this right >> minutes reflect commissioner finlev's position. >> let's go to regular. item 12. proposed stipulation decision in the matter of david millwany. >> this was on the calendar in the because a commissioner pull today because of the timing signed last month if we conclude

to stick with the spondant before the meeting we gift americans time to decide whether they want to pooul full we accomplice today on regular in case have you if you want a discussion. that's why it is here. if is a similar case to item 11ch so curious to see what commissioner are machineo think busy this. it is different it involves 2 furthermore 700s and there is more income not disclosed. 700's were filed much later then and there in the other case and also this individual is on a commission this is not purely advisory it makes actual decisions increased the amount of risk for public harm in the case. that's yet penalty we arrived at is higher than reflect in the item 11. glad to answer questions you may

have. >> thank you, mr. ford. the case are flowing together in this one there were remindsers to file the filer did not responds to? >> yes. that's correct and the first instance this was 2020 the deadline was extended. looks good to me. motion to approve. >> can you describe how that was voted on. yep. >> that's on page 7 of stipes there were 2 meeting this is this commissioner participated in one was december 8.

you see there were 3 actions. i think one was a procedural thing with the minutes the other 2 did pertain to a business approved. and then the second meeting was february 9 of 21. you see minutes. and then after this there were -- thing this is did involve business and financial transactions. why thank you, for me i think it is important to keep in mind why we have the rowels so this members, media and anyone can look what people potential conflicts are and for this to happen had they are taking votes on matters before the bodies. and we can't do this effectively if the interests are not disclosed. these are significant issues.

i move to approve this. public comment. >> you seconded. >> i asked for a second. >> [laughter] public comment, please. >> we are checking for callers in the queue. members we are now taking public ment on agenda item 12. prosecute pose stipulation in the matter of david wadmanny. why no callers in the queue. why roll call. >> commissioner finlev. >> aye. >> chair lee >> aye. why commissioner romano. >> aye >> with 3 votes it is approved unanimously. >> thank you. >> mr. ford, thank you and staff

the last few months seeing a lot of enforce am actions, noise to see. i don't know what explains the increase it is great and thank you for and your staff's work >> thank you and thank you to today and we can talk more in the next quarter low report about where we are prescriptionally. but this is a result of hard work the team has been put nothing. no evering explanation. i will wait until you call 13. >> that work is obvious and we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> >> item 13. discussion of enforce am hearing guide book draft. >> so item 13 senior vathor zack will talk. il give you a quick intro. so settle way from other upon items today.

the purpose of this is to try to create resource staff, public and all stake holders use in the hearing process. how it works. where the areas are the commission will need to make decisions how the process is in the whole purpose to give you a tour and get feed become or questions this you might have. obviously we will want to reach out to the commissioner feng she is in the here to make sure she works for her and getting feedback. we do this but i will turn it over to zack. >> thank you, pat. we have a presentation. good morning i'm wrak the senior

investigator with enforcement division. i will give you an over view of the draft. version of our hearing guide book. this guide book prepared by myself and fellow senior investigator math whus is behind me. we are 2 attorneys with the enforcement division and reviewed by director pat ford and feedback from the city attorney's office. >> as pat mentioned today is about giving you an over view of the guide book. createed give you information about our hearing process. the goal of the guide book is twofold. one, help everyone understand the process for handling a case. and moving forward and the second to help understand the role and duty of the commission in this process. the guide look book based on enforce am regulations and other laws including the cat cal apa.

and the thought it seeks to summarize the requirements from law and identify the gaps in the laws and to present options for actions the commission could take to help address gaps. i will provide a high level road map and take time if you have feedback or questions approximate understand you miwant more time to digest n. we welcome feedback after this meeting hopeful next week for all feedback and questions and turn to finalizing for publiccasion in may. >> i appreciate this schedule. there is no if for some reason it is in the finalizes in may that does not have legal issues this is a service. >> correct. >> thank you. as you are aware the hearing enforcement process the rest you

are very familiar with the process submission of air complaint alleging a violation or staff complaint t. is reviewed for approximate terrible violations that full in the commission jurisdiction. if than i are found the director initiates an investigation. if this investigation stub assistantiated violations, we have 2 options. one, pursue the stip laid settlement agreement as shown through the meeting. this is our preference and practice to give them the town to settle. there are cases when there are case when is the division than i cannot come to an agreement. the division has the option to add here to hearing stage. >> again this guide book is focused on this hearing base consists of probable cause approximate hearing on the matterings. we hope it is were important.

there are several matters pending with hearings coming up. the guide book is split in 3 sections. the mission has i small role to play in the probable cause proceedings. it come at the end of the process. >> i will not cover this first section today t. it is in the guide book. . feed become on that section. i will focus on preliminary matters and hearing on the matters. once a determination issued the commission has certain merit this is it has to resolve before a case with proceed to a hearing. this section of the book is

sflit in 4 parts. part 2a deals with who will make the decision regarding merits. 2b addresses what exactly are the matters. 2c deals with how the matters are resolved and 2d in the guide book touches on the filings the hearing, brief, pregnancy and rebuttal and date for hearing. first it deals with who will decide matters? the enforcement allows the commission to delegate authority to a prehearing officer. if than i chose this this person can be a commissioner or can be an outside h officer. so for condition tact and as indicate in the the guide. staff recommend the fortunate way to resolve matters delegate to an individual commissioner. the guide book described the process who how and reviews all options the commission can take.

moving to section 2 the sdmach scope this touches on the item this is can and should be considered during the matters phase like commissioner disqualification, subpoenas for witnesses and documents and other items. section 2c. deals with the press for resolving preliminary matters which is is made up of 3 parts. 1, any party can submit a motion to request consideration of preliminary matters asking the commission or receive to make a decision on a set of items. next the decision, which would be made by who is presiding overnight preliminary matters. and step 3 familiar this decision is made by someone you had appointed as a prehearing officer you have the right to review any merit by request. the upon final section this is the guide book provides an over

view of the filings. and discuss the executive director's responsibility for setting a hearing date. moving to the hearing on the merits itself. this is split in 4 sections. i will jump in the first sension with matters the decision decided who the reside. the same options the commission with preside or a hearing officer an individual commissioner or outside attorney. i note that you can make different decisionos preliminary merits if you would like to appoint a commissioner to deal with the matters but want to retain the rit to prezooed as a full body you can. next the book goes to the general hearing protocols. a set of requirements apply across all hearings you should be aware of headed in.

like language access for transation. public access. requirement to record a hearing. rowels of evidence. most of thesar concrete drawn from regulations. the next section, section 3 guess through presentation. this is how a hearing will run. includes 3 main parts the first is -- oral arguments. opening and clezing stimulates and rebuttal. the second exhibits. how the parties will introduce evidence at the hearing and the thirds, witnesses and other tools to introduce evidence november this part of the book touches on the fact at our hearings party and commissioners can ask questions of witness. i would note in this section unlike the prior, there is a deal gaps in the law with how a hearing will run. a lot of this part is identifying all the different

options you have in the decisions you have to make about when order things will go and who has what rights during the hearing. why the findings and orders. after the hear suggest over the commission willville 2 votes the first whether or not to find a violation for each count. vote to find one or no violation. once do you that if you find a violation you vote on potential penalties or orders. order corrective action or penalties. this is the presentation tinldzed be high level at this point to give a sense when you are looking at. myself, pat ford and we are all here to answer scombes receive feedback and public comment now. and if you want more time additional feedback and questions overnight next week. thank you for your attention. >> thank you. >> first this is great.

thank you. id have a couple of quick questions. if the commission designated a hearing officer, does this officer vote on the findings or the full commissioneen photocopy there is a hearing officer >> if there is a hearing officer appointed they have the duty to draft a report and recommendation after the hearing. summarizes everything that happened and when they recommend and then the commission does have to vote on whether or not well is a violation. why got it >> what about appeals from decisions made by the commission or the appointee, is there as process to the superior court or an appeal? i believe there is a process through superior court this is standard through the administrative [inaudible] temperature is great and great idea to create this.

to the extent there were gaps in the process, are there fixes we need to. i don't want to answer now if there are men this is something to think about weather there are fixless through the rule making process to credit a law that fills gaps you identified this . is something i'm throwing out to keep in minds. a great service and i think it is well done. thank you. >> i wanted apol gi if yous are repeating procedural matters like a substance is scheduling, filing, discovery on page 12 and then? >> yes. >> got it. >> the substance whf we decide. >> correct. >> thank you again for a well put together report. i don't think this is the only commission who members serve as

hearing officers. have you consulted with other departments to look at you know lessons learnd and best practices? i know the police commission they do similar hearings as well. it would be good to here. >> yes not something we have done so far, i think because we have our specific regulations that don'ts apply to other commissions fwhu is great advice and will take that up as we move forward with hearings, absolutely. >> in terms of the route going toward the hearing officer. who bears the expense does it come out from our existing budget? yes. >> has it been budgeted? do we carry that budget item?

for the hearing officer. option. the commission will bear expense of hiring that person. why correct. >> under what line item is it under the current budget? >> we do have a line item for legal expenses but not significant. >> okay >> appoint ourselves and not hire someone. [laughter]. okay, thank you. why public comment, please? >> we have no one in the public in person and have one in the queue. welcome. your 3 minutes begins you in. >> i'm ellen lee i spoke earlier today. right after i poke this morning the commissioner one person responded public comment to remove public comment due to agreement for opinion opinion. this is what [inaudible]

dictatorship and communism is. shame on the person spoke today to remove the pregnancy. i exercise my freedom freedom of speech. testify the constitution. most public officials [inaudible] from the agenda 2030. the one rule government. yes, i am 1 huh % praying god send death angels to remove evil people from gentleman soonful ethic commission was set up to protect public. item 13 enforce am hearing guide book. i thought you were motion to shut it. she did she gets 3 minutes the

remaining of 3 minutes. if in the i want to ask the staff -- to do you have that statement on the protocol of public comment? how you need to respect, how we need to respect the caller and the call are has to abide by certain rules. don't we have that. >> commissioner. >> can you read it in the record please. >> there the mayoral policy on certain types of ment it can be read after that happened it is comments directed toward a commissioner. >> characteristic of public protected categories i'm not sure it would reflect this situation if you have a copy we

can read it. >> if we can read it in the record. the public comments will be conducted. members of the public had attends meetings including remote are expected to behave respectfully. persons who engage distractions maybe excluded from participation. call in behaviors are prohibited during remote participation applause or vocal exception of report, signs of regardless of content prosecute finishity. threats of aggression. >> okay. thank you. >> public comment is -- we have one more caller in the queue.

>> stand biechl >> welcome. >> david pilpel. why sorry. >> you have 3 minutes. >> okay. thanks. i glanced through the guide book quickly. i will try to make time to look at it greater depth. you know i will say it is not my highest prior but perhaps i will try to contact pat ford or the senior investigators and discuss it. if staff today or in the future reminds us when was the last hearing on the merits before the commission this would jog my memory. i was like low at the commission meeting at this time having attended men meetings over the years. and i agree with chair lee suggestions checking with the

police commission. i know they spent sometime in closed session. and with individual assigned commissioners handling disciplinary matters understanding that there was and framework are different from this commission the idea of an individual commissioner hearing -- court hearing and case does have an application and so that may be relevant and may be other examples with the fire commission. but similarly may inform your discretion on those aspects of this. thank you for the w this staff is put into preparing this. the matters don't settle, thank you for listening. why thank you. why public comment is closed. why did you. to go become to the

first caller since we put her on pause and gave her remaining time. >> yes. to be fair. >> >> remaining balance in time. she does not get -- public comment. welcome caller you have 2 minutes remaining. >> i'm ellen lee thank you for giving mow the minute and being fair that god bless your heart the purpose of item then today is to assist commissions and public in understanding legal process commission consider evidence in case the violation had occur. so the word, legal, is for

attorneys and judge who is knows the law. and you also say the process of [inaudible] of the mission role as administrative. to enforce the body the role was established city charter commission was first formed. my question to you, how can administrators enforce lus when you are not judges and lawyers? consider when you write and i'm here today deliver you a message. ethic commission for your information. guide lines, regulation and mandates [inaudible]. for taxpayers, work and public officials. which you are. which has nothing to do with the people. we, the people had pay you to be in positions to do good for

general welfare. so far i experienced many of the leaders, politicians and include the mayor, and many of the leaders in the d. hr. and so called commissioners. they retaliate people who have disagreement. they will go after you even you spoke the truth nothing butt truth. and here to ask to you repent and return with moral and common sense with human dignity. >> your time expired. there are no further callers in the queue. public comment is closed. can we take a 5 minute break? before we go to the next

item 14. proposed closed session item. includes closed session item on 47 for an update with labor negotiator regarding negotiations and public employee appointment. the specific item 14d hen removed. so we are only doing the personnel item. public employee appointment. for in closed session. do i have to read in >> commissioner you can move on to public ment on 14e. >> okay. let's have public ment on item

14e. which is, public employee appointment executive director. public comment. please. we are one caller in the queue. stand by. thank you i'm el11 lee. i tuesday earlier i have been working for the city and county government as a public health worker. i am still a delegate representing government employee. i was terminated because i refuse to accept [inaudible] covid-19 vaccination. more then and there 2500 public

employees got terminated forced retirement by the evil policy and the [inaudible] represent in the government. this policy i 14e is public loyals. we have so many crimes against the people. the mayor bow down to criminals. fire, public, police. because people refuse [inaudible] covid-19. you in we know many people covid-19 die sick. many people every day lost their lives. i'm speaking to you and the public. wake up, people. the francesca government the mayor, and elected officials are

nothing but representing the communism. they are not for the people. they fire people like the fire man like the police, public workers. more than 5,000 people, forced termination early retirement. that is why now we see a lot of people dying on the street. a lot of staff in the police. have for police to be on the street. the mayor will not care. if you the public are dying or not. more than 2,000 government employees terminate because they believe in medical freedom. medical choice. and civil liberty that focus the constitution. public people and the people sitting in there the ethic

commission. savor public. you have the obligation to work with the d. public service and department of human services and your mandate vaccination. people can go back to work. we have 1, 168 people who are [inaudible] christian who believe in god. terminated by the illegal mandate ridiculousination. why your 3 minutes expired. >> okay. >> there are no caller. >> let's go to -- do i have a motion? so moved. >> second. >> okay. roll call. motion made and seconded to go in closed session you will take roll. >> commissioner finlev. >> aye. >> chair lee. >> aye >> commissioner romano. >> aye.

>> it is we are back in session. do i have a motion weather to disclose actions taken in >> i move >> to not disclose the content of our closed session. where second. >> roll call. >> motion hen made approximate seconded. commissioner finlev. why aye. why chair lee wrchl aye >> commissioner romano. why aye. >> the motion is approved. item 15. discussion and possible action on item for future meetings.

>> i have an item. i would like an effort to stream line these hearings. and a proposal from perhaps the chair or somebody at staff on how to do that. i had 3 questions i'd like addressed. can we limit public sessions comment section sessions we do one more than what is required by law. we are plenty of public ment i don't men to quiet it i want to avoid redun dancey. limit our hearings to 3 hours. and can we consider having them every other month? >> to focus and concentrate our work and be more efficient. would be helpful to me.

>> i don't know if you want to handle that, chair or if you want to designate staff to come up with a proposal? >> i know for the first time limited comments we had discussions on that already . that's right. commissioner. brown act and sunshine require the commission take comment on every item what commissioner romano referring to the commission by laws 2 general comment item i'm not aware of luthat would require this to appear twice on the agenda the commission needings general public comment only once during every regular meeting. >> that would be an amendment to the by lus if you want to change it. i move to many our by laws to have one yes or no public comment. where we need to agendize that before we take action yes.

>> agendize. >> so in terms of limited to 3 i don't --. we don't deal with it now but plans the seeds and someone does the research and come forward. there are other ways to stroll line the process. >> those other 3 ideas i had. plus any others. worthy of consideration. i think -- the other question i'm happy to come up with the principle and we can put it on the agenda. you can do it. >> volunteer you is yours. >> okay. >> i would like to agendaize our

next meeting will be long. i think you can w with staff when is convenient and when ideas are ready work with the chair to put it on the agenda. why appropriate to put it later agenda where we have [inaudible]. after. helpful. >> thank you. the thirdium mentioned would be less meetings to meet every. part of my stream line. >> okay. >> that's your report. >> thank you. >> related that and i think we need a 10 a.m. there is an item it makes the public easier to engage. for me meeting in the afternoon might be easier. i would throw that out for consideration. if it does not work it does not work. curious what it is.

romano, no from that side. >> i think we will stuck with this time slot because we needed the equipment of we are limited to the time rooms we hold our meetings in and second low, we came late to the game. so all the prime slots were taken. and it has been the concern witness we move to the 10 o'clock which was only available at the time, we lost a lot of the members of the public had could in the make it during the work hours to participate. we have been looking at other openings spots that we can hold our meetings so far we have not found anymore the only thing available at the time was friday afternoon and said that would not work for us. so.

we can ask standpoint to look at other openings slots. >> if the others don't want to we can end it there. >> it is fine. >> will we used to have evening meetings. >> afternoon. >>ure work friday afternoons. for work reason its is easier. >> i think am the friday afternoons would be tough when we have 3 day weekend. number one. and people may be leaving early even commissioners. i want to bring thumb. second thing is -- if the purpose of having the open public meetings is to bring in the members of the public friday afternoon may not be g. i, myself will take the -- not sure the happy hour soon. >> public is in the loving 10 a.m., either. those are fair points.

we used to have evening meetings. that is terrible for staff and everyone. scombr we can explore the opening slots. we are dictated by the technology. broadcast the meetings. >> okay. >> look into this? no. dead on arrival. it was not a -- >> no , i meant certainly look at that is available but my understanding was all the good slots had been taken. >> can we clarify what would be a better time? >> i was suggest friday afternoon i appreciate that is not an idea that others like. i'm happy not to discuss it further. >> want me to add it to my stream lining project. >> i will. >> i think any exploration of

the meeting the purpose is to entice the public to engage with us. if evening meeting works for the public we heard that -- 10 o'clock is heard for folks to come to this meeting that's why we looked at late afternoon 4 o'clock meeting start we did not have any available. that was the intent of looking will alternate times for the public. >> you can take a look if there is anything opening 5 o'clock. >> is it okay to take this on as part of my housekeeping project. >> sure. >> okay. so. public comment? we are cheek to see if there are

callers we have one caller in the queue. >> i want to increase public participation if decrease the amount of time that we take. >> understood. >> welcome, caller. >> happy friday again. i'm ellen lee i spoke earlier 3 times today. i live in san francisco for more than 37 years. i work for the public health department for many years, this is the public hearing. [inaudible] united states constitution give public a voice. to report and voice comments about government direction. transparent government allow all kindses feedbacks and opinions.

including prayers. public prayers. for god to protect the public. also death angels to remove all e vil people. >> i'm sorry i don't think we should. >> i'm sorry chair i don't think we should have a forum for people calling for the death of people who are city workers. i don't think we should do it. >> i think this is a great point i'm not sure legally where the public comment. >> you can't urge violence against anybody. >> this is the third time she's done it. i advise the chair that the public comment needs to be speakoth matter under

consideration and on the item for future meeting that is not what the commenter was referencing relating to the jurisdiction of the commission or that would appear on the agenda. you should let her continue her comment and finish her time. >> all right caller stand by have you 2 minutes remaining. >> 2 minutes begin now. >> thank you, commissioners i thank god for you, you have a heart to serve the public. direct your comments to the item. jot public as commissioners. we appreciate your time. if you don't have time, this [inaudible]. leave. allow those who are willing to have time willing to hear what the public upon comment is. may god bless you. may god give you the visions and dreams to take care of the

people for san franciscoful what you can do to revise our city and ask what you can do to e eliminate government corruption. e eliminate e vil politicians and policy. we all can live in a healthier city and a has beenier life. society homeless can be [inaudible] the drug dealers rested the police can come back to work. fire department can have food stamps to prepare our city. and our public health work customer go back to work and all 1, 158 government employees christians who believe in god and jesus christ. can come become to work. this is the future item i propose. i propose to you. i oshg foezed thez had don't

want to hear public comment. in get out of your seat i work and i am still working for the partial i'm a civic grand jury and investigate government correction myself. you should not sitting in there and hear public hearing the opinion is deeper than you. in god we trust this nation was credited by god and your minutes have expired. >> there is no further callers in the queue. >> adjournment. no discussion. thank you very much, everyone. happy weekend.

>> manufacturing in cities creates this perfect platform for people to earn livelihoods and for people to create more economic prosperity.

i'm kate sosa. i'm cofounder and ceo of sf made. sf made is a public private partnership in the city of san francisco to help manufacturers start, grow, and stay right here in san francisco. sf made really provides wraparound resources for manufacturers that sets us apart from other small business support organizations who provide more generalized support. everything we do has really been developed over time by listening and thinking about what manufacturer needs grow. for example, it would be traditional things like helping them find capital, provide assistance loans, help to provide small business owners with education. we have had some great experience doing what you might

call pop ups or temporary selling events, and maybe the most recent example was one that we did as part of sf made week in partnership with the city seas partnership with small business, creating a 100 company selling day right here at city hall, in partnership with mayor lee and the board of supervisors, and it was just a wonderful opportunity for many of our smaller manufacturers who may be one or two-person shop, and who don't have the wherewithal to have their own dedicated retail store to show their products and it comes back to how do we help companies set more money into arthur businesses and develop more customers and their relationships, so that they can continue to grow and continue to stay here in san francisco.

i'm amy kascel, and i'm the owner of amy kaschel san francisco. we started our line with wedding gowns, and about a year ago, we launched a ready to wear collection. san francisco's a great place to do business in terms of clientele. we have wonderful brides from all walks of life and doing really interesting things: architects, doctors, lawyers, teachers, artists, other like minded entrepreneurs, so really fantastic women to work with. i think it's important for them to know where their clothes are made and how they're made. >> my name is jefferson mccarly, and i'm the general manager of the mission bicycle company. we sell bikes made here for people that ride here. essentially, we sell city bikes made for riding in urban environments.

our core business really is to build bikes specifically for each individual. we care a lot about craftsmanship, we care a lot about quality, we care about good design, and people like that. when people come in, we spend a lot of time going to the design wall, and we can talk about handle bars, we can see the riding position, and we take notes all over the wall. it's a pretty fun shopping experience. paragraph. >> for me as a designer, i love the control. i can see what's going on, talk to my cutter, my pattern maker, looking at the designs. going through the suing room, i'm looking at it, everyone on the team is kind of getting involved, is this what that drape look? is this what she's expecting, maybe if we've made a customization to a dress,

which we can do because we're making everything here locally. over the last few years, we've been more technical. it's a great place to be, but you know, you have to concentrate and focus on where things are going and what the right decisions are as a small business owner. >> sometimes it's appropriate to bring in an expert to offer suggestions and guidance in coaching and counseling, and other times, we just need to talk to each other. we need to talk to other manufacturers that are facing similar problems, other people that are in the trenches, just like us, so that i can share with them a solution that we came up with to manage our inventory, and they can share with me an idea that they had about how to overcome another problem.

>> moving forward, where we see ourselves down the road, maybe five and ten years, is really looking at a business from a little bit more of a ready to wear perspective and making things that are really thoughtful and mindful, mindful of the end user, how they're going to use it, whether it's the end piece or a wedding gown, are they going to use it again, and incorporating that into the end collection, and so that's the direction i hear at this point. >> the reason we are so enamored with the work we do is we really do see it as a platform for changing and making the city something that it has always been and making sure that we're sharing the opportunities that we've been blessed with economically and socially as possible, broadening that

>> you are watching san francisco rising with chris manners. today's special guest, carolyn mante. >> hi, i'm chris manners and you are watching san francisco the stow about restaffing rebuilding and reimaging the city. the guest is carolyn manteto talk about the organization is helping to preserve the city cultural heritage and architecture. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me e. >> good to have you here. >> can we talk bat the history of your organization and the mission.

>> sure, thank you. san francisco heritage started 51 years ago and the main mission is to preserve and enhance the architectural and cultural identity of san francisco. when it started out the focus was really on the buildings, historic landmark listings and really concentrated on downtown area with all the development happening. our organization was raising a reg red flag with historic landmarks in danger and victorian mansions so a hallmark of our organization is moving these victorian mansions in the way of development to inwestern addition neighborhood and other areas to get out of the way of development and preserve them. our organization was around before there was the historic preservation commission of the city so we were at the forefront drawings attention to historic preservation, landmarking and over the last 51 years we have seen

how there are more then just buildsings in safeguarding the city cultural resources, there is also small businesses and the different neighborhood icons that make a neighborhood special, so our outreach has really-it is really come full circle in a way because it moved downtown into the neighborhoods and now with the covid epidemic it is really going back to downtown again looking at how we can play a role in the economic recovery and revitalization of downtown san francisco. >> that's great. so, now i understand your organization is also responsible for maintaining a couple properties. could you tell us a little about those? >> yes, our non profit was gifted in 1973, the historic (inaudible) house. it is now a historic house museum but this was a family since 1886 built

this victorian mansion in the same family year after year and one of the last resident of the family when she passed way gifted the mansion to san francisco heritage so since then we have been running this historic house and the home of our office. in 2018, one of the long time members nor aa lasten gifting a building on the e h-as hate polk became a commercial corridor after the earthquake, the owner at the time, he raised the house and put 6 store front underneath in order to take advantage of the commerce so we are in charge of the house on the corner and it has been a wonderful way to get new numbers, new audiences interested in the work

of our organization. during the pandemic, we have been using it as a artson residents and partnering with different bay area artists as well as cultural institutions, cultural districts and then one of the storefronts we converted into a pop up galleries so gives a opportunity to raise awareness of the importance of the art and cultural resources in san francisco. >> that's fantastic. so, now, let's talk about legacy business. what does the designation mean? how does somebody get add today the legacy business registry and what benefits does being named a legacy business? >> i love this program. it was started by san francisco heritage and adopt ed by the city and run by the office of small business but the program looks what are the businesses really contributing to san francisco and the neighborhood. when we started the

first focus was bars and restaurants but over the years it exb panded to include other businesses so these are places that contribute to the character of a neighborhood, so sam's grill downtown, the amazingarian press in the presidio. book stores like city lights oergreen apple recently named. this year we had a lot of attention on the legacy business program. we put out a contest to the public of what you think should be the next legacy business and one of the businesses that was recommended was the club deluxe, jazz club on the corner, and 2 or 3 days after we launched the contest, the owners announced they would have to close. the rent was driven up, they couldn't afford it, coming out of the pandemic so we worked at speed to get that application submitted with them and that status

convinced their landlord to negotiate with them a lower rent and this way they have been able to stay, there was a lot of social media support around this, so when you become a legacy business, not only do you get marketing and business support from the office of small business, but you also eligible for grants and we work closely with the legacy businesses as we do our work for san francisco heritage. >> that's great. so, apart from architecture and buildings, you also work with cultural districts, and the castro theater strikes me as a place that is both. a beautiful building and cultural hub and center. what has been happening with the recent acquisition by new owners; >> it is leased to another planet entertainment and been in contact with planet entertainment by the castro theater is historic land mark

building. it is recognized as a very important architectural monument. one thing-one of the main activist organizations of the preservation of the theater we work together with supervisor mandelman on a interior landmark historic landmark designation for interior, but what happened over the is summer and people learned is there is a lot of concern not just by san franciscans but people all over the world, movie directors, stars who are very concerned about the risk to the lgbtq and film programming at the castro theater. another planet hosted community

stakeholder in august, and it was so moving to see the number of people who took the microphone-everyone had two minutes to say their testimony of what castro theater meant to them and those testimonys showed this building is contributing not just as a architectural monument but plays a role in the lgbtq community that is irrelaceuble able. >> it is beautiful theater. >> it is. my involvement in the theater raised awareness to not only the castro theater to be emblematic of the lgbtq culture and history but also there are many other sites in the city that also contribute to the identity. that is why so many people come to san francisco as a place of freedom and diversity so in my previous work i worked at the

world heritage center, so when i joined san francisco heritage i was thinking why isn't san francisco a world heritage city? for the architecture alone it could be inscribed. golden gate bridge to name a few but the city is so unique in the architecture, the mansioned and historic landmarks so hoping to start a conversation on that with city stakeholders this year. >> that is great. let's talk about your relationship with other agencies. you mentioned economic and office of work force development and planning commission. how do you unt integrate to them? >> these relationships are essential. we are working with office of small business for the legacy business program and the planning department is really one of our most crucial relationships. we meet quarterly with them and we really see how we can support not only historic land

mark listings and historical cultural context statements, strategy for culture districts and city survey among many other activities that really are of concern to both of us. for the office of workforce development, i attended a etmooing recently that the chamber of commerce organized with them on the downtown revitalization and a key goal in that meeting and in the downtown revitalization is to make sure that the city historic culture resources play a key #r0e8 in the economic recovery and revitalization especially after the pandemic. the office of workforce development has the city build program which is admirable program where youth are trained in construction techniques for rebuilding and especially with the new housing legislation, and we really want to see how can that workforce be

expanded to include training in historic preservation. we have so many victorian homes, historic buildings and other places that really need a skilled labor force to make sure that they are preserved and that they help keep the special identify of the city. we really value these relationships, we meet quarterly with the various organizations and we are really grateful for grants of the arts we receive and other supports so definitely that is a key relationship for san francisco heritage. >> the city build is great. i like that a lot. thank you so much for the time you have given today. appreciate you coming on the show. >> thank you so much raising awareness about san francisco heritage. we hope the people watching will join us in the mission to help keep san francisco special. thank you. >> that's it for this episode. we'll be back shortly.

i'm chris manners, thanks >> good morning and welcome to the recessed april 11th 2023 board of supervisors meeting today being april 12th. at approximately 9:33 in the morning. call the roll. >> >> checking with sfgovtv that