spaces. [gavel] >> this meeting will come to order. good morning everyone and welcome to the monday april 17, 2023 meeting of the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i am supervisor matt dorsey chair of the committee and joined by vice chair shamann walton and committee member ahsha safai. on behalf ofoir colleagues i would to express our gratitude to victor young and the sfgtv and the producer there today. mr. clerk do you have any announcements? >> yes the board of

supervisors and its committees are now convening hybrid meetings to allow in person attendance and public comment while providing remote access and public comment via telephone. public comment will be taken on each item on the agenda. those in person will be allowed to speak first and those waiting on the telephone line. the public comment call in number is streaming across the strene. when connected you will hear the meeting discussion but muted and listening mode only. when your item comes up and public comment is called those joining in person shall line up to speak and those on the telephone dial star three to be added to the line. please turn down the tv and all listening devises you're using want alternatively you may commit public comment in writing to myself of the city clerk at the website

on the agenda and by us mail at dr. goodlet place san francisco california, 9410 2. items acted upon today are expected to be on the board of supervisors agenda on april 25, 2023 unless otherwise stated. >> okay. thank you mr. clerk. to accommodate schedules today we're going to call item three first and i will call item one last because we're going to be moving to continue that item once again, so the order for today will be items number three, two, four and one and with that mr. clerk please call item number 3. >> yes item three is an ord amending the administrative code to redeal chapter 12x and thereby repealing the prohibition on city funded travel to a state and center

entering into a contract with a contractors that united states headquarters in a state where any or all of the contract would be performed in a state that allows discriminatory practices with lgbtq with voter suppression laws. >> thank you mr. clerk. we are joined by supervisor mandelman and the floor is yours. >> thank you for doing this this morning and my desire to go a little early. so today we're considering an item or a matter that you have thought about in this committee before, chapter 12x, which prohibits city funded travel to and contracting with companies headquartered in states that have restrictive lgbtq -- anti-lgbtq and

antiproductive rights and antivoting rights legislation. it's a definitely issue and thank supervisor safai for taking on a piece of this a few months back. for benefit of those that may not have been paying attention to this effort i do want to go over the background and this legislation goes back -- well, not my legislation but chapter 12x goes back to the aftermath of the supreme court's decision recognizing same sex marriage and in the wake of that decision a number of states enacted antigear, antilgbtq plus legislation. the board of supervisors responded in october 2016 by adopting chapter 12x to the administrative code with not go to these states with anti-gear states and it was a few states at the time. it has

such expanded to anti-choice laws and restrictive voting rights laws and all of these prohibitions were put in place i think the same underlying theory of change. progressive jurisdictions would come together, pool our political and economic power and stand up against bigotry. and then behavior of these states that were adopting these laws would change, and that coalition never materialized and that behavior has not changed. no other cities or jurisdictions have come along for the ride to enact boycotts anywhere near as sweeping as san francisco's and meanwhile no states with restrictive voting rights or productive laws have cited this as motivation for reforming them. for more than two years i and my office have been looking at this specifically looking at the efficacy and

costs associated with 12x. last year the budget and legislative analyst released a report that i requested that found poor comprince across city departments and dozens of waivers of contracting tens of millions of dollars spent in banned states even with the ban so we were incurring cost by having the ban and still doing a ton of business with banned states. departments were granted waivers and $75 million in contracts for banned states but as compliance tightened between july 2021 and july 2022 there were 35 departments approved by 538 waivers which brought the total up to $791 million. and probably the improved compliance of the law more attention paid attention to it is the reason those numbers went up so

high but they beg the question what is the point if we have this prohibition but for a lot of good reasonables we provide a pathway to get around it's costly to do the work arounds and we still have the costs of reducing our bidding pools and shutting out potential contractors. the bla analyzed you know identified nearly half a million in staff cost in terms of processing these waivers but the more significant cost in terms of its impact to procurement they estimated more than 20% and millions of dollars. following the repeat released last september many supervisor submitted a letters of inquiry

to the city administrator and she look at the chapter 12x and propose considerations for the board consideration. that report was released in february and associate side with high levels of administrative burden significant opportunity for costs for the city and its employees and increased contracting costs, and i have become aware of some of you have heard these stories of unintended unintended consequences of 12x and -- because of 12x. our office of economic and workforce development can't conduct economic development missions or recruit businesses in most of the country, and recently i saw an email in which a disaster presence coordinator wouldn't authorize a constituent's release for emergency housing

after replaced because of a fire and the company was in a banned state and including the state to the east nevada but there's a ton of others. none of this makes sense. these outcomes aren't good for san francisco and not helping those vulnerable people in the banned states and i don't believe it's working the way it was intended. repealing 12x should increase competition for city contracts and lower costs that should save the money tens or hundreds of millions of dollars when having construction projects and the daily procurement smaller projects in the city and should reduce the administrative burden and make the government better and help us advance our social policy goals by creating more opportunities for engagement with communities impacted by restrictive lgbtq plus reproductive right and voting rights laws and this was hammered home with me listening to

npr story a year ago about a gay couple in north carolina that opened a furniture business and making furniture and had been very successful and it occurred to me that san francisco could not buy furniture from that particular company because it is located in north carolina or perhaps we could have by going through a complicated and expensive waiver process. now i've heard two sets of concerns about this repeal. first i wasn't anticipating but i think has promoted a useful conversation and i know supervisor safai and also supervisor melgar have been part of that conversation and expanding opportunities for the minority local experts. i don't think 12x is a particularly effective policy tool to create or protect small business opportunities for our local small businesses. on april

6 i met with the lbe advisory committee and do i think there are that the board can do to support these businesses and i know supervisor safai and supervisor melgar are working on this, but i think that the fact that we need to do more to support our small businesses and especially our minority small businesses doesn't mean we should keep 12x in effect. we need to find more targeted and effective ways to do that. now the other argument is certainly in this particular moment emotionally a harder one for me in that we see states doing terrible, terrible things enacting the most ridiculous laws prohibitions on drag you know going after trans kids and their families, their doctors and of course the issues of reproductive rights and choice have become

even more polarized and we see states doing terrible things on those fronts as well and some feel that repealing 12x means that san francisco is waiving the white flag in our fight for equality and justice. i don't think that. i think that is quite wrong but i also firmly believe that the best thing a progressive city like san francisco can do for progressive politics nationally is demonstrate that a great city like san francisco can govern itself efficiently and smartly and do smart and good things for our vulnerable populations right here in san francisco. we're facing a very challenging budget this year. it's going to be challenging going forward and yet we know that there are choices that we need to make to lift up our trans folks, to make good around the commitment on reparationses and

support reproductive rightses for women and those goals have not been achieved in san francisco and insofar we have a more effective government that is spending its money more wisely we can do more for vulnerable populations here and i believe this board has a commitment to do that. i want to thank president peskin and supervisors supervisor stefani, peskin -- well, we have peskin, ronen and supervisor safai for the cosponsorship and i believe chair dorsey you're a cosponsor as well i and want to also thank bla analyst for the initial report, city administrator charmen chew and deputy city administrator and the purchaser in the city for their analysis and i wanted to thank deputy city attorney filbert for

his drafting support of this legislation and thank ross green in my office for his work on this, and that's what i got. >> thank you supervisor mandel don. vice chair walton. >> thank you chair dorsey and thank you supervisor for coming in this morning. i do just want to say that i 100% feel that there's so many unintended consequences with this repeal. we still have not analyzed the effects of small businesses with this repeal as well as completely analyze the effects on the populations that 12x was intended to protect. i think it's a mistake to completely repeal this legislation without having a real conversation and a plan moving forward looking at the impacts of our small business, looking at the impacts how this affects protected communities and i think what this does

is most certainly help big business but it could be at the expense of harming our protected classes and harming our classes in san francisco and i know there's going to be unintended consequences to a complete repeal without a plan to make sure those populations are protected, and i don't think we can make these changes without a plan in place, without to your point the conversations that are happening with some of my colleagues and small business. i think that's putting the cart before the horse actually repealing the legislation before some of those strategies and plans are implemented so i really don't know what this repeal is attempting to solve and as you stated supervisor mandelman most certainly a lot of states across the country are doubling down on their discriminatory practices. they're doubling down on

their hate and prejudice and the policies they put in place to promote that hate and prejudice and i really just think that we should be more methodical and thoughtful about how we move forward with something like this. >> thank you vice chair walton and supervisor safai. >> thank you chair. thank you supervisor mandelman for bringing this forward today. i think sometimes when we create policy we end up ultimately conflating a number of different member issues. i think the intent of this legislation was started out i believe supervisor wiener at the time the intent was really to send a message on policy and hope that states that had these abortient policies would begin to rethink them if they wanted to do business with the city and county of san francisco and as supervisor mandelman said that has not happened and what in fact what happened is the cost to the

taxpayers of san francisco over and over again has gone up. i just want to reiterate some of the things that i said when we took on one piece of this and supervisor mandelman said the same thing. 12x was never intended to stop competition or intended to look at some of the different groups in our city that are under represented and say we're going to do everything we can to enhance and create an environment that will enable you to get more business. that wasn't what 12x was intended to do and we expanded it with good intentions but i think it's been shown based on the conversation with the city administrator and all the different departments that have to do business within the state of california and outside in other states the fact that 30 states would be on the list and growing most likely would really i think impact

the city and county going forward in our ability to have good sensible policies that will get good pricing essentially for the city and county. i do want to reiterate i am committed to working with the lgbtq community. we will continue to work with them and look at some of the areas they need help with and strengthening the environment for them to do business in. i heard supervisor mandelman and supervisor walton is committed to that since being on the board and we will all work together to try to strengthen and understand areas they need help on but i think this is the right step forward for us as a city. i think it's a sensible piece of legislation and there's enough time to show that the impacts it was intended to have not had but in fact hurt us as a city and it's time story peel it and i

appreciate you bringing this forward and working with you on this one as well. thank you mr. chair. >> thank you supervisor safai and i want to express my appreciation to supervisor mandelman for the leadership on this and supervisor safai and others and i would like to be add as a co-sponser to this. i think as i expressed once before a lot of my perspective on this is informed by you know over the years working as a manager and director in city departments and seeing some of the inefficiencies about city contracting. at the end of the day i think when we make competitive bidding less competitive we're doing a disservice to tax payers and residents, and i think there are ways that our values should be better reflected in especially as we go into a budget downturn the programs that we're not cutting and the ability to prioritize the important programs

that we have here in the city rather than squandering resources for you know the things that affect our procurement and biddings processes that are costing taxpayers needless dollars so with that mr. clerk can we open this up to public comment. >> yes. members of the public who wish to speak on this item and joining in person should line up to speak at this time. for those listening remotely on the call in line pressing star three to be added to the que and nose in the queue wait until you're unmuted and the cue to begin your comment. there being no public commenters in the chamber can we have our first caller? >> good morning. david pilpow can you hear me okay >> . >> yes,. >> great. i agree with supervisor mandelman and supervisor safai on

this one. we don't like appropriately we don't like some of the laws and policies in other states but 12x isn't changing them and instead is costing the city to comply and reducing opportunities for travel and contracting and so is having kind of the opposite effect as what was intend and i had agree there are other approaches to address concerns in other places but 12x isn't doing it right now so i support this measure and thank you for the work on this. thank you for listening. >> thank you. that completes our public comment call in. >> great. thank you mr. clerk. public comment on this item is now closed. [gavel] >> and i would like a motion to send item three to the full board with positive recommendation. mr. clerk a roll call on the motion. >> yes on the motion to recommend. vice chair walton. >> [off mic].

>> walton no, supervisor safai. >> [off mic]. >> supervisor safai aye. >> chair dorsey. >> dorsey aye. the motion passes with supervisor walton discenting in committee. >> thank you mr. young. on a 2-1 vote item three repealing administrative code relations and related travel with discriminatory laws moving to the full board with a positive recommendation. [gavel] >> mr. clerk please call 12.2. >> yes item number two is a hearing appointing one member to the african-american reparations advisory committee. we have one seat, nine applicants. >> great. thank you mr. clerk. as this committee often sees we have an applicant pool with an abundance of lived experience and knowledge and very viable on this committee and others and i always want to reiterate that whenever we're in a situation where we need to say no to someone i

hope that people will look for other opportunities because we are all enriched in important ways as a city when people seek the help of the city on oversight body and other commissions. in the job that we have as policy makers making these decisions it's not necessarily about individuals. i think it's important that moment don't make anything personally. my committee colleague supervisor walton lead on the creation of this committee and a champion on this issue and i know he would like to say a few words. >> thank you so much chadors and he first want to thank the african-american reparations advisory committee for all their work. as you know we're here because someone had to resign their seat so we need to make an appointment so the work can continue throughout january of next year in terms of the work of the committee. excited to thank you so much many applicants and so many folks step up and want to serve.

i want to reiterate what chair dorsey stated in terms of the fact we do have so many applicants that are ready and excited and we truly appreciate that at the same time we only have one seat so want to encourage everyone who doesn't get selected today to continue to want to serve and step up and be involved with other committees, or other opportunities that do exist here in the city and just appreciate to have a pool of applicants that is so large and thank you all so much and looking forward to hearing this item. >> thank you vice chair walton for your comments and leadership on this issue and i want to reiterate my support for everything that you're doing in this and any help that i can facilitate. i really appreciate what you're doing so i'm going to be calling up the individuals in the order they're listed on the agenda so first let's hear from fatimah abdul-khalig

who i believe is joining remotely. fatimah abdul-khalig are you on the line? . >> hi good morning. i'm here. thank you. >> thanks welcome. the floor is yours. >> thank you. i would like to speak a little bit about myself and why i wanted to join the african-american reparations advisory committee so i am raised in san francisco and actually a third generation san franciscan so my whole family lives here, has moved around due to some of the circumstances of san francisco of them being pushed out, different situations like that. i am also an hbcu grat. i am currently working as a psychotherapist for the department of public health and services to black african-american families all over san francisco particularly in the

bayview and visitacion valley and it's really an honorable torto be part of the conversation to a tone for slavery for the atrocious acts of the trans atlantic slave trade with reparationses and to certainly hold this nation accountable for the pain and suffering of black people. reparations are a necessary demand for justice and this is a fight that is extremely important to me and to my community. i'm an advocate -- i'm an hbcu advocate. i'm eyelet mental health advocate and civil rights advocate in my community so i am out there in the community daily trying to help with working with my community, and yeah. i want to be at the

forefront of advocating for reparations for my community as well, and i think i would be an asset to the committee because of all the experiences that i have in the city and my passion for healing my community and advancing the black community. thank you. >> great. thank you. and now let's hear from frederick martin -- >> just real quick i have a question. >> vice chair walton. >> i do have a question for the applicant and i will be asking all the applicants this question and feel free to touch this in your statement and have you attended any of the current african-american reparations meetings? >> i haven't had the opportunity to attend any of the meetings. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> great. thank you.

and now let's hear from frederick martin. is mr. martin available? >> hi. thank you for considering me for this seat. just to answer the question off the top yes, i have attended many of the reparations committee meetings. also the substance meetings -- subcommittee meetings and economic justice with [inaudible]. >> . >> there's been a lot of community engagement that i have done with and for the committee in regard to district 5 and district six and getting a lot of people to attend. excuse me. i have a cold or the flu, so

the experience that i've had in san francisco i have lived here all my life. i have had times where i've lived in public housing and also times where i didn't live in public housing, so we were in market rate housing for most of my childhood but i have lived experience. i'm currently living in subsidized housing, and the work that i did starting in 2015 with housing rights committee it was funded through hud and we were to go in to all the project section 8 units we could that were in danger of losing their afford ability or they were in condemnable conditions, lots of inhabitablity issues. tenant rights were ignored. i got trained in that and

learned of all the statistics, utilize the statistics. currently i believe there is over 40% of public housing or subsidized housing are black and african-american which is a direct result of the red lining and all of the historical system stemically racist segregation and you know bumping up how much people would have to pay for loans and mortgage and devaluing properties, so i dealt with a lot of that first hand and all of the majority black neighborhoods, so it was western edition, fillmore, tenderloin, bayview hunters point and third street and we actually successfully because of the training and organizing that we did and educating that we did with the tenants of many of these properties shore view,

bayview apartments, [inaudible] arms, fred lick douglas haynes. i could go on and on with the issues that were going on and the amount of units that were saved from grass roots organizing knocking on the doors, talking to 10ants, getting first-hand accounts, visiting their home and talking with their families to bring about some sort of justice and make sure that the affordability remains but also they got respected and treated fairly. that's one of the commitments that hud makes. it's one of the promises in their contract affordable safe and decent housing so we actually saved team at housing rights committee. we actually saved thousands of units, and several buildings from being converted you know

taken off the affordable housing market. there's just a lot of things i could say about that, but it's important like when you have shelter and when you have housing and when it's affordable through whatever program or system for you it changes your life, so i dedicated myself to that for many years. before that i was doing organizing with tenderloin development neighborhood corporation and served on the board for tmdc. i got a lot of behind the scene what is was going on, how to make things work, how to make things better, so i have a lot of experience with that. i've also organized many events and people with disabilities on housing rights with the san francisco planning department. i had conducted several focus groups, planned with them based on all of the data that we have compiled in the city

on the discrepancies or the need or the amount of people that that need affordable housing. the people that we aren't reaching so a lot that that work had do with reversing and changing and dealing with the racism that exists in housing and to make -- they made a commitment to change that, so i've done work with the city there. most recently i am doing a series i now work for glide as the community engagement and congregational life manager which also includes housing support, so i think i have a lot of experience. it's close to my heart. i am one of the only people in my family that wasn't displaced or priced out or made a decision to move out of san francisco. i have a lot of family that is in the east bay and beyond because of that but i made a decision to stay. i love the city. i

love my people and i think you know it's about time for change in the entire says, in the entire housing system, not just public housing but housing in general. there's reparations that we deserve that we are owed. many of our -- many of my forefathers and foremothers help build this city and help build the wealth yet it was taken from us at every single turn so i would love to and be glad to be a part of the committee who is doing great work and to help them bring about the change and the justice that we need. >> okay. thank you mr. martin and next up we will hear from larry martin and just to move things along with the entire agenda i'm going to ask if folks could observe two, three minutes but next up we will hear from mr. larry

martin. mr. martin. >> yes. can you hear me? >> yep the floor is yours. >> yes. my name is larry martin and first i want to say i have attended numerous meetings reparations meetings and i have been very vocal on supporting reparations. i also want to mention before i start john connors junior in 1989 he introduced hr 40 and it was a commission to study reparations, so i want to thank the brothers and the sisters that serve and supervisor walton that served on the reparations committee because the torch has been passed, and

like i said i have been living in san francisco for 16 years, and when the late john connors passed -- well he didn't pass but he introduced the bill and a strong supporter then and i have been living in public housing going on 11 years now, and i just recently got my associate degree from city college, and i really believe that it's important that san francisco start this process of reparations because i believe it is the starting point to reeducating the black mind because our minds have been damaged as a result of slavery, so it's important that the

people that is in power start this process because if it's not started it's going to be really -- i think it's a good investment to start this process you know to invest in health health, to invest in housing, to invest and into repairing the damaged mind that was done to black people by the hand of white people. you see what i am saying? so i truly that it's our responsibility. it's black people's responsibility to reeducate ourselves but we need a adjustment start from the government and like i said before you know this has been been the first time that reparations has been brought to the floor you know, and i was in detroit michigan when the late -- like i said when the late john connors brought this up so like i said

whatever is needed of me you know like i said i'm a college student. i'm a 11 year resident of public housing. i have been actively involved in leadership things in san francisco from the grass root level. i have worked with numerous non-profits on dealing with social issues in the community you know, and i know housing is a very important thing in san francisco. there's a lot of people that lack housing and i cherish what i got but i foment help people obtain housing but i believe one of the major things is repair the black mind and through reparations through investment that will be a good starting point you know to invest, so i support and enforce

reparations, and it's my hope that san francisco will be the role model for the rest of the country whether it comes down to repairing the damage that was done by the hands of white people. you see what i am saying? so like i said i'm not here to blow my residentials or anything like that. i want you all to know i'm a strong advocate for reparations since the late 80's when i was a resident of detroit michigan. now i have been living out here in san francisco for almost twenty years and i have been supporting and allocating reparations you know what i am saying? and i'm going to continue to do it. i recently been accepted at san francisco state university and i am looking forward on this you know helping out anyway i can, and so i can leave a legacy so i can pass the torch like

mr. connors did because he planted the seed for us so it's our responsibility to do whatever we can to make this a reality so we can repair the damage that was done to us black people and it's a lot of us holds a lot of responsibility. i know a lot of effort and things we have to do ourselves but i believe that the people in leadership and the peoples in power have to do something because this can get out of hand. thank you. thanks for letting me share. >> thank you mr. martin. next up is leontine collins. ms. collins. are you on the line? . >> i don't believe she sot telephone line. let me double check. no. she's

not on the telephone line and i don't recall receiving indication or response to my invitation for today's meeting. >> okay. next up is ramekon o'arwisters. . >> he should be outline with us. >> ramekon o'arwisters? . >> she is the line with us. if you can unmute your line you can begin speaking. .

>> okay. i do see them on our guest list. maybe we can come back. >> okay. let's move on to mr. ronald carter. mr. carter are you available? . >> i'm just double checking my response list. i did not get a response to my invitation today. >> okay. let's move on to shakema stoney. ms. stony are you available? ms. stony? yeah. >> either one of those and if you can do it in a few minutes that would be great. >> good morning everyone and to my fellow applicants on line good morning. i'm a little nervous. i want to start off by saying that a

lot of black san franciscans have moved or thinking about moving away and if you ask my family and friends i thought about it everyday but i can't do it and i realize that i have been just reading and educating myself a lot and reading the reparations report. i identified myself in it which is a good thing and a bad thing in it and i told myself i can't leave being a preschool teacher in the past. uri am just seeing my community i stopped being a teacher in 2017 and looking at my community now it's empty. i don't see the same faces and another reason why i can't leave. i currently work for ds yf and the data and in the reports about the population decline just the population of black youth that we serve every year and every time i see the reports it's declining, declining and i

told myself i can't leave torque work on the equity committee we get the same reports and we get reports from the city as a whole. we get reports from other community based organizations, and seeing that makes me so sad at times and also happy and i told myself once again i can't quite leave. just reading some of the items in the report regarding foster care youth. i was a foster care youth before and when it talked how they transfer people outside of the county i was like that's me. just reading about the housing discriminations i am also currently as real estate student so in school i would hear about red lining and while studying i hear about red lining and in the report you hear about red lining and constantly and dang we go through so much and i say again i can't leave. i will probably say that like 20 times, and currently i

do site visits for dcyf and on the nutrition team and site visits since 2018 and like going there and i love my sites and boys and girls club and rec and parks and as a teacher i saw the decline in the population. i see families i have to go and i need to make it to vallejo or vacaville and they can't afford to live here and i want to continue thes real estate degree and i want to help. what can i do to help? i have attended meetings and i remember one lady in particular and also i always hear the narrative we have so many reports so much data and all these things it's time to move forward now and that really resonated with me and i agree and i didn't agree and things don't happen so quickly and bring up a quote from [inaudible] his report for the case of

reparations. he says "250 years of slavery, 90 years of jim crow, 60 years of separate but equal, 35 year was racist housing policy and reading all of that it's literally in the whole report everything lined out not everything but the majority of that phrase, that quote is up here and i was kind of getting mad and yes that lady was right on the call. i believe we have so much reports and data and incite and when will we move forward? and i am here to lend my support to move forward at end of the quote in the case of reparations and until we work with the debts america will not be whole and we have debts to pay and i tell my friends don't be stuck on the $5 million and sounds amazing but it's more to it and the debt of health disparities, health

regarding school, debt with educating our youth. there's a debt to be paid on so many level and i thank you for this opportunity and a chance to lend support and help for my community and like i said earlier i can't leave and things making me not leave and i hope this is the opportunity that will ground me here so thank you. >> t for not giving up on our city and next up is tiana danielle blunt. ms. blunt i'm not sure if you're here or online. >> i did receive an indication she would be here in person. >> okay. ms. blunt the floors is yours. >> good afternoon board of supervisors. it is my pleasure to be in

front of you today. i am here in response to application that was submitted for the african-american reparations committee specifically seat 15. let me interviews myself. my name is tiana danielle blunt. i'm maintain the occupation of a registered nurse. i hold a bachelor's degree in science. i am currently in a graduate program for a master's degree in info admitteddics but importantly i'm a san francisco native. my family has been here since 1930. i was born here. i have been residing in san francisco since 1976. i was raised in the streets of san francisco and continue to live here. i'm a property owner. i've had the opportunity to be a student as a san francisco unified school district and when i had the chance i went back to the district and gave my service as a school district nurse so what

qualifies me for seat 15? well, through my unique journey i also had the opportunity to live in san francisco public housing. i resided in valence sea garden before the redevelopment and relocation. if i am chosen for seat 15 of the african-american reparations committee in san francisco i would like to develop a system for identification purposes that will provide the necessary data of personal identification information, ancestorial data and proof of residenceacy and occupation within the city of san francisco. it's my thought this process will verify and construct a reasonable and economical solution to generate revenue for the african-americans that qualify for reparations. my goal is to provide an extended process an expedited process that is logical, comprehensive and effective. also relieving the burden, the financial burden

for the city. thank you. >> vice chair walton. >> thank you and thank you so much for being here this morning. just one question have you attended any of the african-american reparations and advisory committee meetings?. >> yes i've had the opportunity to attend some of the meetings. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> great. thanks so much. next up i believe is totiana white i believe is joining us remotely. ms. white are you on the line? . >> i'm here. okay. all right. hi everyone. oh can you hear me? >> yep the floor is yours. go ahead. >> okay. awesome. good morning everyone and thank you so much for being here. it's an honor and privilege for me so let me jump in. my name is totiana white and an sf native and 35

years old, a single parent and my background is in performing arts, community health work and also equity [inaudible] and i lived here for 15 plus years in public housing and i've also lived for years in another county which makes a difference for me living in different counties under public housing and once i turned 18 -- before i turned 18 i lived with my parent and grandmother so we didn't have to worry about public housing or anything like that, but i just want to tackle some things that once out of the 18 year old range how life changes when you're you know you can't provide and you're looking for jobs to help you pay for income and things of that sort san francisco housing is very expensive, so if you're 18 years old or out of your parents home you can't afford to live here on your own and

that's why we need the public housing programs, so that's a big thing that we need to tackle providing resources for young adult who is are trying to get into public housing, right, and we also want to make public housing accessible meaning like having liftings. they have liftings but people need help and need help with transportation and housing. they need help looking for housing and applying for housing. some people don't have the mental state to apply for housing. some people are intimidated applying for housing but we need more housing social workers or people to help with the application process to get the word out there. we need it to be more accessible. we need resources. another thing is the laws that is in public housing some are them are very hard to define because they

have delaines and you can't get public housing. >> >> and the african-american population was pretty much targetd and we're in the war on drugs and meaning a lot of african-americans were incarcerated and have felonies and if they have that the population can't apply for public housing and that creates a lot of dark spaces and why people are selling drugs on corners, why people are sleeping on it is corners using drugs and because they have felonies and prevents from applying for housing and what do they do? we need to attack that as well. also we need to open up public housing more like san francisco public housing just opened up over 10 years. it's been a long time since public housing is closed and it's finally open and there's a short range that you can apply and it's not fair for

those that don't know public housing open that don't have access to emails. they don't -- a lot of people in the world don't have access to technology and they're not in their right minds or transportation funds to get to these places say to apply and what not so we definitely need to make sure that the housing when we're opening up these hud applications or these applications to apply for hud and housing we need to make sure that everybody is aware of it, not just people who have an email and we need to have more of a housing mental station or something like that like covid stairses and create mental health stations for people who like i said mentally need housing but they don't know how to apply for housing. they don't even know what to write but they need housing so what do we do with those people who are

mentally disabled but need housing but can't apply because they're mentally disabled and i was thinking too with reparations people always want money, yes we do but at the same time the reparations can be a replacement for rent payment so instead of paying cash pay the rent for us. we will be in the program like section 8 the rent won't go to us but to the landlord but the 30% we're paying you can make them pay all of it and we're still in the program and go by the laws and like a section 8 but reparations like for rent payments and i thought that would be a great idea because everybody wants money but that isn't the case and also partner with other counties -- i'm going to hurry up but these are things and i hope you're writing it down and even if i am not picked you guys can tackle the issues and i am living in it now and have my

community and my family are affected by it and these are things you might not knowis from a hood state of mind or i would say because i am from bayview hunters point. i'm from the ground up and a lot of people don't make it out of the hood or don't get to make it out so i am just speaking for all of us, not just me, and also partnering with other counties because i have lived in san joaquin county and the process was a little hard because they only give you so much time to look for a place and the voucher will expire and that's stressful for someone homeless and with the child in the car or on the floor and giving us a voucher and yes but you only have three months and we might not find a place in three months and we need help and not take the vouchers back or time limits and we don't have the money or the income or have

stability so why keep putting these things on us to make it harder for us to be successful? because if we're not properly housed we can't look for income because we can't keep ourselves clean. we can't think right. our kids in foster care because we have no where to stay and people are calling on us and housing affects everything. if don't fix housing we won't fix homelessness and not fix the drugs on the street and not fix the food insecurity. housing plays a part in everything. without stability you have chaos and that's why it's the way it is now and i will hurry up and demolishing the projects and i notice they're demolished and who is living inlet places? they're not african-american people anymore because they got kicked out because they can't afford the income. they have needs and just

different things preventing them -- they maybe [inaudible] and move back and owe back pay and a lot. places that you guys and beautiful tore it down to make it nice and put the people that lived there all their live and let them back in because non african-americans move in and their credit score might be better and then also shelters are not safe. that's another reason that homeless are out on the streets and homeless cheryls are not safe. the kids are not safe in the shelters student: a lot of dirty things are going on with shelters and i wouldn't recommend a shelter. i was sleeping in my car for months because it was so dangerous in the shelter and please do something with the shelters and that's all i have to say. that's my time. i have so much more to offer and give and like i said i am here now. i am thankful i live in i better community. i live and still on section eight and

thank god i am still here and like i said [inaudible] to be an advocate and still support my city regardless so i thank you for your time. >> great. thanks ms. white. vice chair walton. >> thank you chair dorsey. ms. white i didn't hear you say whether you attended any african-american reparations advisory committee meetings? >> no, i haven't had the pleasure yet. my apologies but that's my truthful answer. >> thank you and i also encourage all applicant focus you have great ideas and if you're not selected to serve. >> . >> to make sure that you share them with the committee and find when the committee meets on the human rights commission website. >> thank you vice chair walton. thank you ms. white and mr. young i will ask if we can circle back if we have the other applicant and contact with him? >> yes, do i see

ramekon o'arwisters connected on the online system. if you want to unmute your line and turn on your camera you can at this time. i'm not seeing any response. my apologies and if there's any other applicants who have not yet called if you come forward there's two additional applicants who have not appeared to speak yet. >> so the applicants who we've not heard from are leontine collins, mr. ramekon o'arwisters and mr. ronald carter. okay. okay. so i think we have heard from all of the applicants so why don't we mr. clerk open this up to public comment unless there's comments or questions from my

colleagues? seeing none let's open this to public comment. >> yes, members of the public who wish to speak on this item and in honor line up to speak at this time. for those calling in pressing star three to be added to the que. for those already in the queue wait until the system indicated you're unmuted and that's your queue to begin your comments. there being no persons in the room for public comment we're double checking the line. we have one caller in line to speak at this time. can we have that caller? . >> supervisors i will make it very clear to all of you that from day one in san francisco we had a black gentlemen by the name of william [inaudible] a millionaire. he

financed the city and county of san francisco which i don't understand from day one african-americans they got used by the city and county of san francisco. now, i have seen some ramp belling going on but people don't know their history. thein buffalo soldiers and administration that played a key role contributing to city and county of san francisco. we have the first baptist church which is 150 years that should give you some perspective of the contribution of african-americans here in san francisco. in spite of african-american

contributing to the city and county of san francisco they were denied their rights, and still they denied their rights, so i don't know why we're begging for anything. we need to prove as we have proved before that we can storm and do whatever we want to, and then we had people on the list that are not present or they don't want to participate. [inaudible] agenda you haven't addressed that. >> speaker -- thank you. that completes our public comment call in line. >> great thank you mr. clerk. public comment on item number two is now closed. [gavel] >> vice chair walton. >> thank you chair dorsey and i again

want to thank all of the individuals that took the time to apply for seat 15. again this is a very important committee and task force here in the city. obviously we can only select one person and therefore i would like to move forward the name of frederick martin with a positive recommendation for seat 15. >> great. thank you vice chair walton and i just want to again to reiterate my appreciation to everybody who applied and also to our colleague supervisor walton for his leadership not just i think this is something that is nationally significant leadership and i do appreciate everything you're doing. mr. clerk roll call to recommend frederick martin for the committee committee and send the recommendation to the full board. >> vice chair walton. >> [off mic]. >> walton aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye.

>> supervisor safai aye. dare coursey >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> . >> on a unanimous vote frederick martin is recommended for seat 15 for the land use and transportation committee to the full board with positive recommendation happens please call item four. >> item four is accepting the surveillance report under the municipal administrative code section 19b.6 from various departments. >> thank you mr. clerk. we have the director information technology here to present and if there's questions on the policy there are representatives to answer the questions but first let's hear from ms. johnson. welcome. the floor is yours. >> thank you chair dorsey. thank you for the warm welcome and hello good morning to supervisor walton and supervisor safai when we gets back so i

am here reporting -- i'm the director of the committee on information technology and on behalf of 21 city departments that submitted 31 annual comprehensive annual comprehensive . >> . >> surveillance reports on the acquisition of silicon valley technology and i will just dive in. >> . >> so overview of what the reports is required under 19 bt requires the departments with board approved silicon veal -- >> . >> for the board of supervisors for the seepages of the resolution by february 15 and the annual report offers departments an opportunity to report changes to the policies, any violations that occurred, any complaints from the public about the technologies and overall effectiveness of the technologies and achieving the stated purposes. today you will be hearing the

resolution before you request that you accept reports on behalf of the silicon valley technologies listed. >> . >> surveillance technologys on the slides and drones and radio frequency, identification, circulation and security gate systems, security cameras and face recognition and addendums memo from the police on facial recognition which i will detail a bit more later and the various departments that supported them are associated on this slide. i will not read through all of them. so to give you a bit of overview of the process this is the inaugural year for this annual surveillance reporting and the first policy was approved in 2021. the chapter requires

two policies under chapter 19 b and submit the report to the department of information technology and the clerk of the board within a year and february 1 thereafter each year and following that submission departments have to submitted to the board of supervisors via resolution or request for acceptance of the report via resolution by february 15. since this is the inaugural year coit took charge and standardized reports for departments creating a easy form for departments to allow christianity and a deadline extension to november 1, 2022 in order to support departments coming into compliance and christianity is afforded that authority under chapter 19b and all reports from submitted to them and the clerk of the board and published on their board and the

resolution is introduced to streamline the process this year. many departments reported no proposed changes no violations or copt participates with the policy and the police department reporters and pd and public works annual license plate readers, drones on from the fire department dt port, public works and director rec of park and recreation and proposed changes and detailed in the files that you received. the file has all reports from the department and give a lot more context than this slide but several departments proposed changes in terms of authorized job titles that can access the data from the technology or the technology itself. several departments changed the technology in some way of either adding units replacing equipment and several department

says also requested both of those things so those are listed here under that slide as well. they're also provided in the summary memo that was tissued to the file for your review. and then there was one submission from the -- or i will say it's not necessarily related to a specific surveillance policy but related to the larger chapter 19b. there's a requirement or the chapter 19b explicitly states it's unlaw to attain or retain or access information from face recognition technology a the police department informed them on four separate incidents since the initial implementation of the law officers requested face recognition data from external cooperating law enforcement agencies however there was no match received so no information essentially shared with the development. that

being said we asked the department to create an addendums to their reports detailing these incidents, the date of each incident and the summary what happened in the incident and the actions afterwards to insure compliance and the department submitted that memo and it's included in the file you received and finally i want to note two small corrections to the summary memo that you received so on page six of the file there's a note that says "recreation and park was proposing a change to the drone policy" that. is inaccurate. they're not proposing a change in the policy want it requested that third parties would be contracted for use of drones and also related to recreation and park 32 a note on page 19 that says their application -- their policy for application was discontinued in 2023. that has

not happened yet. october 2023 hasn't happened yet so that should said 2022 and with that that's my presentation.s as you mentioned we have representatives from all the departments and questions about reports and i'm happy to have them answer or questions about the process i am happy to speak to that. >> thank you so much ms. johnson. i went through a lot of these. and i will say i want say congratulations to co it and it's a heavy lift and a lot on the committee for your work and i want to ask and maybe this is something that i know what the answer is going to be, but do you feel that you have enough resources to handle this work? i have a feeling that -- i know this was the inaugural year and i welcome the opportunity to have a conversation. is

there an expectation this will change in years to come or are you continue to be the department that sort of herds cats here? and if that is the case if you have the resources to do that i would love to hear your thoughts on process moving forward? >> thank you for that question. i have many thoughts about the resources for this work they will not dive into too deeply today. i will say we made due but certainly it's a strain on the office to some extent to herd so many cats as yous and pull at this time the documents and work with departments making sure they understand what they need to report and that they understand the ordinance and that's a continual process because as you know the city has turn over that happens and continually trying to educate and there's a lot of work and we would certainly welcome additional

resources to do that work because i don't think -- yeah so i think very much welcome additional resources. >> i don't know if there's any other questions from colleagues? i know there's a lot of representatives from departments here and if there's no specific question that i have and i don't see anyone on the roster with questions and i would encourage departments with questions on information technology for documents and the things that department needs to please cooperate and make sure this isn't something continually on the back burner and that makes life more difficult for a department that we're putting a lot of work on and i will do everything i can to make sure that you get the resources that you need to do this work so i really appreciate your presentation and seeing no comments or questions from colleagues mr. clerk can we open this up to public comment? >> yes. members of the public who wish to speak on this item and joining in person should line up to speak at

this time. for those listening remotely please press star three to until the line and wait until you're unmuted and you're key to start. seeing no speakers in chamber we have one comment for public comment. can we have our caller please? >> great. good morning. david pilpow again. i had only two minor issue with the report one of was pointed out on page 19 and should be 2022 and on the page five of the report page eight in your packet there's a big list of job title classifications for the puc, the supporting paperwork indicates that most of those positions are out at the southeast

wastewater treatment plant, but the way it's written suggests that any 5241 or o 933 within puc would have access to the drone video and i don't think that's what was intended, so i don't think that there's any need to change the report or the resolution. i would just suggest that going forward the survey instrument that co it uses to check with the departments be as specific as possible and give examples of a good response to each question for comparison on page six of the report page nine in the packet under arts commission security cameras it's very specific to the classifications, the deputy director of finance and ad min and [inaudible] and the different positions so i think that's more clear to which

positions have access to the surveillance technology information. i support the resolution before you today and i recognize that there's a lot of work behind this item in many departments to date and continuing a large number of policies that are still to come through these different representatives and the board. thank you very much for listening and thanks for the work. >> thank you. just double checking to see if we have additional callers. that completes the public comment call in line. >> great. public comment on item four is closed. [gavel] >> and i would like to make a motion to send item number 4accept the annual reports regarding surveillance technologies to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> supervisor walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> dorsey aye. the motion passes without objection. >> thank you mr. clerk. on unanimous vote item

four goes to the full board with positive recommendation. >> thank you very much. >> and mr. clerk would you please call item one. >> yes item one is considering appointing one member to the ethics commission. i want to note that we have mr. bush on the telephone line today. >> thank you mr. clerk. as you're aware we needed to continue this item a couple of times regarding the board's appointment to the ethics commission. in the intervening time we have another applicant for the position and i was informed there's an additional person considering making an application so i would like to give them the opportunity to do thank you so thank -- and to continue i would like to make a motion to continue this to the call of the chair but mr. clerk can we open public comment on this. >> did you want to hear from mr. bush at all?

>> yeah. i think we're going to continue this -- >> okay. thanks. >> we will continue and hear from all the applicants at the same time but we can open to public comment. >> thank you. members of the public who wish to speak line up at this time. for those listening remotely press star three to be on the speaker line and please indicate until the line is unmuted and you can begin your comment. there being no speakers in the room and we have one caller. can we have our caller please? . >> great. david pilpow last time today. since larry bush's term expired by operation of law on sunday april 2 he not able to participate last friday in the ethics commission meeting. another member was absent and so there were only three members

present on a five member commission that required all votes to be unanimous. there was disagreement about some of the stipulations and therefore some of them did not go forward. it's just really important to have these seats filled and have members able to attend and without any unnecessarily conflict so i support the motion to continue to the call of the chair but i hope this position will be filled as soon as practicable. thank you very much for listening. >> thank you. that completes our public comment call in list. >> great. thank you mr. clerk. public comment on item number one is now closed. [gavel] >> and mr. clerk could we have a roll call to continue the item on the call to the chair. >> yes. vice chair walton. >> aye. >> walton aye. supervisor safai. >> aye. >> supervisor safai aye. >> chair dorsey.

>> aye. >> is the motion passes without objection. >> thank you mr. young. on unanimous vote item one point to the ethics commission is continued to the call of the chair. mr. clerk do we have any further business? >> that completes our agenda for today. >> great. thank you mr. clerk and thank you to everyone. we are adjourned. [gavel]

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