>> may 5, 2023 special meeting of the san francisco ethics commission. today's meeting is live cast ong sfgovtv and live online on sfgovtv.org/ethicslive. (indiscernible) as explained in the agenda document. can you please explain how remote public comment will be handled? >> thank you. public comment is available on each item. each member will be allowed 3 minutes to speak. those in person, opportunity to speak during the public comment period will be made available in room 416 city hall. for those attending remotely, public comment can be provided

by calling 1-415-655-0001. again, 1-415-655-0001. access code, 25961882432. again, access code, 25961882432. fallowed by the pound sign and press pound again. when your item of interest comes up press star three to be added to the public comment line. please stand by. public comment is available webex application. use the link on the agenda to connect and press the raised hand button to be added to the public comment line. how to-please refer to the public comment section on the agenda. public comment may be submitted in writing and shared with the commission after the

meeting concluded and will be included as part of the official meeting file. written comments sent to ethic.commission@sfgov. org. members of public who attend commission meetings including remote attendance are also expected to behave reresponsible and respectfully. please direct your comments to the commission as a whole and not individual members. persons who engage in name calling, shouting, interruptions or other distracting behavior may be excluded from participation. the following behaviors or activities are prohibited, applause or vocal expression of support or opposition, signs regardless of content or message, profanity, threats of physical aggression. the prohibition on signs does not apply to clothing

which includes message displayed on clothing pins hats or buttons. the rules adopted by city hall, the sheriff office or board of supervisors related to dequorum and not meant to be exhaustive. thank you, madam chair. >> thank you. now i call the meeting to order. roll call, please. >> commissioners please indicate your presence by saying, aye. commissioner florez feng. >> aye. >> commissioner finlev >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> aye. >> commissioner ramono >> aye. >> 4 members. you have a quorum. >> thank you. item 2 public comment on items not on today's agenda. i see no commenters on site. can you check

on remote? >> madam chair, we are checking to see if there are callers in the queue. please stand by. madam chair, we have two callers. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now.

>> good morning. my name is ellen lee, zhou. i have been a public health worker for san francisco health department. i worked more then 10 years. i represent the government employees in san francisco. i have been living here in san francisco for more then 37 years. i care about san francisco. yes, i am the ellen i run for san francisco mayor in 2018 and 2019. yes, your ethic commission has been retaliating me after i run for mayor. ethic commission is the most unethical department that i know of. i have been coming to ethic commission many years. the last time i spoke to you,

ethic commission was in april 14, 2023, i spoke to you about san francisco elected officials. some management leaders have been running a (indiscernible) we now learned san francisco has been controlled by the people within our government are enemies for us. most public elected officials were paid and bought into the office to purposefully impose agenda 21 now changed to agenda 2030, which another (indiscernible) i reported to you last month about pandemic covid-19. its plan and the crime against humanity by forcing covid-19 vaccinations for san franciscans. we now learned more and more people

who accept the vaccination dead, dying, sick, but stiff have the (indiscernible) no vaccination, no job until this day. i was retaliated reporting facts, data to government leaders, lie about this pandemic to the public. i was terminated by my public health department in september 2022 after i report the crime against humanity. as of today, may 5, 2023, we the unvaccinated government employees still have many active lawsuits against the mayor, health officials, and some city leaders lying to the public by forcing vaccination illegally. violate people's medical choice, religious

freedom and consitutional rights. >> your three minutes expired. >> more and more people are dying-- >> please stand by as we go to caller number 2. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> commissioners, it has been some time since i participated in your deliberations. ironically you commissioners to strengthen the ethics commission so that you all can address quality of life issues . on every level in the city countsy county of san francisco, we now see corruption. our sunshine task

force is dysfunctional. our ethics commission is floating. our controller's office knows about the corruption, but kicks the can down the street. the director who used to be the ethics commission director has left. we the people do not know what is happening. who has replaced her. we need the ethics commission that was created by the people but is not serving the constituents of san francisco. we

have now departments going directly to the board of supervisors introducing resolutions on behest payments. you remember that somebody from the board of supervisors came to muddy the waters of the ethics commission, soime are asking you all, kindly to address quality of life issues on every level in the city and county of san francisco, we do not have quality of life issues. crime is on the increase. businesses like nordstrom's, whole foods, many other businesses, large businesses are leaving

the city, and you ethics commission have to ponder and connect the dots. thank you very much. >> madam chair, there is no further callers in the queue. >> thank you. public comment to to item 2 is closed. now i call-- >> good morning. >> hold on sir, can you give me a moment? your 3 minutes begins- >> i want fully prepared to come today. my name is (indiscernible) i have a french accent. recently what i have been doing is start talking to the supervisors and different commissions and ethics is key for-i'm on a mission i call that. we need to walk

together i believe. the city (indiscernible) i don't know what thoughts you play in-we are playing with fire for the future of humanity is absolutely clear. my words will be, don't let ethics become scripture, because that is what is going on. it is pretty clear. because you will lose your ability to reach what should be your reason for being like everybody else, happiness, because you can't switch happiness superficially you have to use the energy (indiscernible) towards beauty to reach happiness. artificial intelgence (indiscernible) can't achieve that because (indiscernible) it doesn't work. i think that's it for today. thank you.

>> thank you. >> thank you. >> if there is no mf >> madam chair, looks like no further public comment. >> okay, public comment is closed for item 2. now i call consent calendar, item 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. as noted on the agenda there is no separate discussion on the consent calendar item unless request is made by commission member or member of the public in attendance, in which event the matter shall be removed and considered as separate item. if any commissioners ask to discuss the item, that item will be taken off following action on the consent calendar on the regular calendar for discussion and action. any commissioners wish to discuss any item on the consent calendar? i see none. let's open up for public comment, please. >> madam chair, looks like we have one phone call in the queue. please stand

by. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> good morning again. my name is ellen lee, i spoke earlier today. i was cut off before my statement finished. as of today may 5- >> excuse me. >> you have many- >> this is for the consent calendar item, number 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. this is public comment for that line item. >> (indiscernible) >> public comment is specifically for consent calendar. >> morning

commissioners, deputy city attorney. yes commissioner, the public commenters should limit their comments to addressing the item and the commission is considering, which is the consent calendar. >> thank you. >> we are going to continue with your public comment. >> as of today may 5, 2023, many unvaccinated government employees still have many active- >> excuse me, [multiple speakers] i need to cut you off. any other callers? >> looks like we have no further callers in the queue. >> okay. thank you.

since there is no other public comment, do i have a motion to adopt the consent calendar, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. >> so moved. >> second? >> second. >> roll call, please. >> on the motion to adopt- >> actually, let's try the old method. if no objection can we just have do we need to do individual roll call? no objection to the motion? >> do need to take a roll call or without objection. i don't know whether the bylaws address this. during covid you needed roll call but since you are present i think you can probably do unanimous consent. >> do i have unanimous consent for this item? >> unfortunately not.

>> okay. roll call. let's do roll call. >> on the motion to adopt consent calendar. commissioner florez feng >> aye. >> commissioner finlev. >> aye. >> chair lee. >> aye. >> commissioner romano. >> no. >> three votes in the affirmative and one opposed. the motion is approved. >> i now call item 10, which is proposed closed session item to discuss personnel matters. this includes proposed closed session item number 10 for public employee appointment executive director. this item has been scheduled for the commission discussion and possible action. for purposes of this item today, there are four steps involved. first, 10a we received public comment on all matters pertaining to agenda item 10 including whether to meet in closed session. second, we'll vote whether to meet in

closed session under california government code section 54957.6 and sunshine ordinance 67.10e to discuss the public employee appointment. this will be action item as noted in item 10b. third is closed session held the commission initiate the closed session meeting. fourth, pursuant to brown act and sunshine ordinance and as shown on the agenda item discuss and vote on the motion regarding whether or not to disclose any action taken or discussions held in closed session regarding the public employee appointment. does any commissioners have any questions about today's process? i see none. i like to ask our city attorney if there is anything you wish to add about the commission's closed session process? >> you may proceed.

>> thank you. let's proceed to public comment on specifically agenda item number 10. >> madam chair, we are checking to see if there are callers in the queue and we have two callers standing by. please stand by. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> commissioners, you are going to go into closed session, and you know that we really need a good ethics director. the last three ethic directors tried their best and i know that you are going to make every effort to choose a good director, but please make sure that whoever this director is has

sufficient staff. without staff-without various staffing (indiscernible) latest technology, software, we cannot serve the city and county of san francisco, so we do need a director. the director is linked to good staffing. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we have one more caller in the queue. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> my name is ellen lee. yes, i spoke to you this morning. yes, i got cut off by you the lawlessness criminals running the government. i work for the city of government, i

was terminated. >> excuse me, are you commenting specifically on this agenda item 10? >> yes, you not allow me to speak and finish my statement. you are no different then a criminal. this is public statement. this is public ethic commission. i am here to ask you today, because this is a closed session and it is about government employee, government hiring, public taxpayer business. i pay for property tax. i pay for sales tax. i am paying for the salary of public government employee. because this is closed session, we are not allowed to participate and do not cut me off. i told you already, you are no different then a criminal by cutting me off. i am here to ask you all public officials and those in charge to come back to

(indiscernible) reevaluate our failed city policy in all departments. because you have a closed session, do not allow public opinion to be (indiscernible) that means you are doing illegal business against we the people government. the government must set up to evaluate by the people, not the government set up by the government. you are running a (indiscernible) about companies leaving san francisco. the ethic commission has been working with so many departments closed behind doors do not allow the public to know the truth nothing but the truth. i'm here to report to you the ethic commission that you have discriminate against those who do not agree with you. the public opinion. just like you did this morning. you shut me

off after i spoke less then a minute when i'm having three minutes. where is my civil rights? where is my freedom of speech under god given right? where is my taxpayer money go when all this behind the policy comment is not publicly? yes, i run for san francisco government mayor representing the people. what have you done to me? you have been fire me by after i spoke the truth to you ethic commission, and the mayor and board of supervisors. you know, you close behind the door about employee- >> your three minutes has expired. madam chair, looks like no further caller in the queue. >> okay, public comment for agenda item 10 is closed. do i now entertain a motion

to proceed whether to meet in closed session under california government code section 54957.6 and sunshine ordinance section 67.10e to discuss the public employee appointment? >> so moved. >> second. >> okay. >> motion has been made and seconded. i will now call the roll. >> we have unanimous consent. we do. let us proceed to closed session, and i just want to make the announcement that because of the closed session item, we will reconvene in open session around 145 or 2 o'clock, so we thank members of the public for your patience and continued engagement. let's go to closed session.

[meeting reconvened] >> okay, we are now back in public sessionism i want to thank members of the public for your patience and continued engagement as we resume our open session meeting. do i have a motion to disclose discussion held in closed session? >> i move to not disclose the substance of the closed session. >> second. >> okay. unanimous consent. >> yes. >> okay. now, let's go to item number 11. discussion and possible action regarding preliminary matters in the matter of paul allen taylor case number 20-243

1920-031. this item is called in connection with ongoing enforcement matter involved the respondent paul allen taylor. in december of last year, the executive director issued a finding of probable cause in the case. the executive director cause found probable cause is existed to believe the respondent commitment (indiscernible) held in this case, the commission needs to resolve any relevant prem liminary matters. through this agenda item, the commission will decide the method in which it will use to resolve preliminary matters. this #cd include appointing a member of the commission to make decisions on behalf of the full body. enforcement division has presented the memo making recommendations how measures should be handled, and today we have our senior

investigator mr. zack who will be making a brief comment and answer any questions the commissioners may have. and afterwards, mr. taylor would have the same opportunity to speak and answer any questions of commissioners may have on him. so, mr. demarko, welcome. >> thank you. so, i will be fairly brief and open up to questions. everything is in the memo as well as in the larger guide book, both of which provided to the respondent and to the public on the website. so, i are want to just mention three quick things that i'll draw your attention to first. just to we are not dealing with substance today but take a step back and remind of the case in general. this was a case where the respondent mr. taylor was alleged to have coordinated between a committee and a pack to

facilitate a $10 thousand expenditure by the pack that went towards supporting the committee, his coordination is alleged to have (indiscernible) into contribution far over the $500 limit. flowing from that, the executive director found probable cause for 8 counts. the first 2 were that the respondent caused violations by both the committee to have accepted the contribution over the limit and the pack to have given the contribution over the limit. counts 3-6 are related to respondent causing the committee and pack to have not filed the proper campaign finance filings. they didn't report the $10 thousand contribution on the 460 and didn't file the late contribution report. count 7 ist noregistering as a campaign consultant and count 8 is withholding information and not complying with the investigation including several subpoenas. so, the second point i like to draw

your attention to is the timeline and how we ended up here. we worked several years as part of the investigation to reach stipulation as we do try to in all our cases. we were unable to, it isn't possibly in this case. after it became clear a stipulation want going happen- >> is that because the financial penalty was too stiff? >> that was-it was the lack of cooperation. we attempted to-i can go into more detail if you like at a certain point, but we attempted to reach out to the respondent multiple times, investigators talked to him via phone in september 2020 to notify him of a document request,bsent the request the same day,sent follow e-mails twice in october- >> we dont need lat level of detail. >> lack of responsiveness what so ever. >> alright. >> just briefly, after the became clear the

stipulation want possible, investigators served respondent with a probably cause report and a subpoena for documents at the same time in person on october 25 this year fallowed up snding mail the next dale and e-mail two days later. there was a three week deadline for the respondent to file response and request a pc conference. we sent reminder of the deadline november 9, the deadline passed november 15, no request or response, therefore per regulation the executive director had 60 days from issuing the pc report to issue a pc determination. so, that pc determination came december 19. the commission had 5 days to ratify it, it was ratified december 6, the monday after the 5 day deadline and that is how we have ended up here. and then the third thing i will briefly draw your attention to what we are here for

today and that is, there are 4 separate items decisions really before the commission today that will allow us to then proceed with preliminary matters, which have to happen before we can have a hearing in this case. the first item is deciding who is presiding over the preliminary matters. as the memo goes over that can be a individual, commissioner outside hearing officer or the commission. the second item is set a deadline for motions to be filed that includes request for subpoena, motion to make determinations on preleminary matters. we want to make it clear so everyone knows what is expected if they e-mail or mail those requests and motions and who they send them to. finally, item 4 is if the commission decides today to appoint a

individual for preliminary matters the commission retain s the right to review the individual determinations and the regulations are silent on what process is in place for that review, so if you decide to appoint someone, then we ask you set out a process for your review including how a party request review, when the review happens, what the party's role is in the review and thereat is it. the memo goes into more detail, the guide book goes into more detail. i'm here to answer questions on individual items and case as a whole and with that, i'll turn it back. >> colleagues, do you want to hear from mr. taylor before we have any questions to both parties? >> i did have a question. maybe the fact mr. taylor is present will answer it. my second is hearing you speak that there (indiscernible) preliminary hearing either. he may not show up at

all. it sounds like there is engagement if he is participating today. >> yes. he is-sounds like he is participating today. >> alright. we'll deal with that later. >> why dont we-patch in mr. taylor and have him- >> please stand by. >> presentation before us. >> good afternoon mr. taylor, can you hear us? >> i can hear you. >> perfect. we can hear you. >> i was waiting for it to come up on my computer, but you are not on there now. >> we can hear you fine. >> mr. taylor, can you please proceed? >> say that again? >> would you like to proceed with your comments?

>> i just came back on. have you guys already discussed your side? >> we just heard from the staff report and we would like to hear from you. >> we got to stop. somebody has to figure this out. [echo] >> mr. taylor, looks like you have logged in twice. >> i logged in on my phone to find out if the meeting is still going on. it isn't on my computer. i just wanted to watch. i didn't have any comments. >> okay. >> he has no comments. >> mr. taylor, i understand you do not wish to make any comments? on your item? >> i dont know what you are going to say for me to comment about. >> can you help him

figure out-- [echo] >> mr. taylor, could you mute your other device or turn your other speaker off? we are hearing echo so it is difficult to hear you when you speak. >> mr. taylor, can you hear us now? >> is that better? >> much. >> thank you. >> so, mr. taylor, we have just taken up the item that involves you, and we just heard from the staff presentation and i understand you choose not to make any statements, is that correct? >> i was sitter here

waiting to hear the presentation but want able to get on until i called on my cell phone here. in other words, every time i called to relaunch the webinar it never once came on again, even though i got a heads up that you will be coming back on. so, i have not heard since you came out of closed session one word of what your people had to say, so i can't comment unless i have that. >> okay. with sense of fairness, i would ask our senior investigator to repeat his brief presentation. the way this is going to go is, the staff is going to make a presentation, the commission will hear from you mr. taylor, and then we would have questions for both of you. so, mr. dumarko.

>> if it makes sense i can repeat the last parts which is what is going to be happening. >> okay. >> great. we are here for today are 4 potential decisions for the commission to make before this case can proceed to preliminary matters. the first decision is who should presides over the preliminary matters. the commission can appoint a commissioner or outside officer or hear on their own. the second decision is to set a deadline for motions and subpoenas to be due into the preliminary matters commissioner or entire commission, a date for those things to be due. the third is for how those things should be submitted, who they should be sent to and via e-mail or mail or some other method. the fourth is the process by which the commission would review any determinations if they do appoint an individual to make those determinations. the commission can make a decision on how parties can

request that review and what role they have and how the review will run. so, that is what the commission is here and mr. taylor can-- >> mr. taylor, can you hear us? >> i heard you. >> yeah. so, the bottom line, is we are about to launch into a big process here about determining the allegations that the campaign finance allegations against you. we dont typically do that. this is pretty uncommon. what usually happens is that staff and who ever is involved in these allegations usually come to some kind of settlement well in advance. we are told by staff you haven't responded to them. is there a way to resolve this? you are entitled to go through the full due process in the hearing we are about to engage upon, but i want to make sure before we do that we are all on the same page that you dont want to try to work this out as a

settlement to get it done quickly and we don't have to go through the whole process. >> i don't even know what your charges really are. i dont know what you have to support those charges. i don't have any responses from anything that i have mailed into the ethic committee. >> is there a we can organize a meeting between you and the enforcement division to make thet clear? >> it sounds like we have been down this road and i credit staff with having tried to make those connections. >> i would say go for-if mr. taylor is willing to come to have a meeting to have these issues discussed, it seems you never made contact. >> we have made contact and then been ignored repeatedly through e-mail, in person

service, voice mail, phone calls, we also received numerous mailings in response to the probable cause report that came with all evidence and those mailings accused our officer of violation of the rico act and due process of every part of the constitution and demanded a million dollars from the commission and we felt we were unable to have any productive conversations with the respondent. if he is willing to meet we are happy to meet. >> okay. >> i think that we had received the executive director's report on probable cause a few months ago. that outlined all the contacts and all the outreach the staff has made, so i don't see any benefit if we were to delay it few more

weeks to have mr. taylor come back and engage with the staff, because everything was already outlined. if we can make that report available to other commissioners and eve mr. taylor, that is fine, but i think that we need to really address this. is it time sensitive matter? don't we have to act within a certain period? >> there is no immediate deadline right now. this meeting is intended to kick off the preliminary matters process and set deadlines and then there will be deadlines. >> okay. >> but at this moment, there are no current. >> you have estimated penalty of what you guys would offer as a first-? >> no, we cant talk about that right now. >> okay.

>> okay, so colleagues- >> your acquisitions are not true and so there is no reason to talk about a settlement, because they are not true. i have no violated anything. >> absolutely you are right to-that what we are here to determine. that is the whole points. >> the question for mr. taylor whether he has a opinion about whether we should appoint a commissioner to preside over preliminary matters, whether we should do it as a body and deadlines for filing motions to for preliminary matters. mr. taylor, if you have thoughts on that, i would love to hear them. >> you are presenting two options. is that what i'm hearing? >> the agenda item has been posted- >> dont do that.

>> well, i will not read the entire memo, but the first decision we are facing is who presides over the preliminary matters. the options are member of the commission, license attorney not on the commission or full body. >> this is the commission discussion and decision. >> right. >> so, i think that after we hear from mr. taylor and if mr. taylor doesn't have any further things to add and we dont have questions to ask, then it is up to this body to decide whether to appoint a member of the commission, hire a public outside counsel, or to conduct this as a full commission to conduct to carry out the motions on preliminary matters. that is what is in

front of us right now. >> that's why i'm inviting mr. taylor to opine on. >> mr. taylor. >> my trust level is very low for you, because you guys came at me accusing me of something that i would never do and never did. andthetened if i didn't give up information you have no right to then you would send in police to take my computers and phones and anything they can find in the search of my property, which this is not a fishing hunt you come here looking for stuff to try to find a crime. there is no crime. and so you're violating and moving along with this as if you are-i don't have a chance to prevail with the

truth. >> that's-sorry this is so complicated and are difficult to do this over the phone. i appreciate that. we are trying to set up a trial so you can present your case for the truth and there is determination. these are pre-trial matters that we are trying to establish. we are wondering if you have feelings about how to do the pre-trial matters on who should determine the rules of the road as it were? >> i understand and that is the reason why i sent you questions to show your jurisdiction to put me in a trial and you didn't respond and that's why the penalties have come at you, because i sent in a lot of printed documents for you to read and to respond to. you say i don't respond, but you guys have not responded. now, you have delivered the subpoena to a place that i no

longer occupy and use that against me, so i never received that, and so everything that i see that is going on in your arena makes me feel not at ease that a fair trail or anything is fair or truthful will come out of this. also, tied into this it makes it even more difficult is this, is that, coming after me someone who did nothing wrong but yet the violators who had the billboards that this whole thing was based about taken down and removed was the federal crime you do nothing about it. 22 billboards i produced and managed that is all i did is produce

them. (indiscernible) were taken down after they were up two days. >> mr. taylor, i'm not your lawyer but encourage you not to start talking about the facts. we will have a proceedings at some point presumably to address this. today we are focused on preliminary matters how to design the rules of the road. if you dont have a opinion, that's fine, but this is your chance to have a opinion. >> i don't have a opinion right now. >> okay. >> we appreciate you're maintaining you didn't do this and that is the point of doing this, okay? >> would the commission like for me to comment briefly on a few processings he mention just to respond or no? >> yes, but i just want to put in the record that i want to make sure that the public knows this commission, the members and representatives would not threaten anybody's personal or property, so i just want to make sure that is the

case. you have a chance to respond and i want the record to reflect that. >> thank you for thunt. we delivered the subpoena and the probable cause report in person. two of our investigators traveled delivered them to mr. taylor in person, alsosent by mail and e-mail address which we since received response from him about attending today. in that pc report i would also note we outlined where the commission gets the authority, the legal authority and jurisdiction over his behavior and finally, we did not follow up on the subpoena and make a threat whether or not he responded and what we may or may not do. >> so, the next step is for us to consider options

for preliminary. first of all, in terms of timing, are we required to make the decision today, or can we table it until a further meeting? >> that is up to you. there are no current deadlines. we put it on the agenda because it is required to move forward, but there is no deadline for you to do it today. >> okay. among the three options, may i just suggest that we delete the outside counsel one due to budge t or concerns? >> that means it has to be one of the 4 of us? >> yes, the decision is about us. >> alright. >> i think we should pick one of us to deal with the preliminary matters. i doubt all 4 want to sit on dealing with the preliminary matters. if we do, by all

means, let's hear it. are folks interested in doing this as a commission? >> not it. does anybody want to do it? >> do i have a volunteer had? >> i will do it. i think i have the experience. i tried criminal cases and work frd a judge. i have a question about timing though. i know part of this we are also picking-i'm not getting ahead of a decision, but for timing, there is one of the action items is deadline to serve motions or file motions. following from that, when do you envision-is there a idea when decisions on the motions would be decided? what is the turn around kblrks that is up to you or who ever is appointed to handle preliminary matters. these are the decisions before you are

the only 4 decisions that should be made by the whole commission and everything else there are deadlines, there are how certain things should be done that the preliminary matters commissioner or if the whole commission hears it whole commission will decide. >> can i appoint commissioner finlev to preside over this preliminary matter at the earliest convenient time? >> it requires majority vote to appoint a individual. >> okay. >> do we need a motion? >> if others are interested i'm happy to hear from them. >> i move to appoint commissioner finlev. >> second. >> you should take public comment. >> hold on a second, do we have to take public comment

on each of the 4 different--? >> (indiscernible) >> commissioner can we wait to make the other decisions and then take public comment? >> public comment needs to happen before the commission takes any action on this item. >> can our action be a omnibus action and set the deadline- >> make the motion at the end, sure. >> i retract the motion. >> okay. first suggestion is we already assigned a commission. the second is setting a deadline. 30 days? >> i think the deadline seems fine. >> third- >> direct the parties to file motions regarding the preliminary matters, right? >> e-mail and copy to the other party.

>> parties to request review of the assigned commissioner determination for the process of reviewing the recommended findings of probable cause. we are voting on all 4 and taking the public comment on all 4? >> what's theforth one? >> to adopt the process that exist for the ed current prautss for recommending pc findings >> to adopt the current process used when you review the executive director pc determination. the same process for this instance. >> got it. >> i move all 4 of the items. >> you sckd second and then go to public comment. okay, public comment. >> we are checking to see if there are callers in the queue. please stand by.

madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> before moving on, i ask you guys to try one more time to meet with him. hopefully in person. no e-mails, no whatever, just try to meet with him. call him on the phone- >> we will continue to do so, yes. and thank you everyone and mr. taylor for your patience since this is a new process for all of us. >> ditto. thank you. >> public comment is closed. unanimous consent on the vote? okay, thank you. move to agenda item number 12. discussion and possible action regarding proposed stipulation decision and order in the matter of michael colbruno.

director ford. >> thank you, chair commissioners. thank you for making it through a long meeting so far. item 12 is stipulation. the reason this is not on consent like the other stipulations is just because of timing. this is one of those things where the stip is signed shortly before the meeting, you don't have the opportunity to pull it from consent so we just placed on the regular calendar. i'll treat it like consent and just be here if you have questions, but not make a presentation on it. will opponent point out the respondent counsel is here present in the room today. >> okay. would counsel want to make any comments? okay, do i have a motion to approve? >> it seemed like there was some- (indiscernible) was there a pattern

which were and were not? it may be what is in front of me. just asking if you can draw me to it or clarify? >> i dont think so. i say they are all confined to three clients and those clients are noted in the stip. that's a pattern, but otherwise didn't find a particular pattern among the reported contacts. >> thank you. >> i had a similar question, so-- >> okay. are we making the motion? >> asking for a motion. >> so move. >> second. >> public comment. >> we have one caller in the queue. please stand by. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> my name is ellen--

my name is ellen lee. i raised my hand a long time and nobody ask me to speak for item 11 and yet you talk about my name in item 11. i'm asking you and request my 3 minutes for item 11, because you lie to the public. there is no public comment. when i raise my hand, you do not allow me to speak. my name is ellen lee, i am the person mentioned in item 11. today may 5, 2023 ethic commission shut me off doing the solution to end public hearing. item 11 is about 2019 when i run for mayor campaign billboard that i paid for. when i run for my campaign in 2019, i have no

campaign manager, no pay advisor, no pay staff, no pay employees and all volunteers. everything done according to ethic commission instructions. my campaign billboards were illegally removered as elected officials and city leaders came out to (indiscernible) and the news conference calling me racist and then illegally remove my campaign billboards. the violation against my consitutional rights and i reserve all my legal rights to sue the credibility of the city is worthless due to illegal action against me and my volunteers. my billboards was about human traffic and child traffic crime in san francisco city government. my campaign was promoting to reduce homelessness, child and human traffic and drug trafficking which today became a real

pandemic for san francisco. that more then 1500 people die each year in the last 3 years, 31 percent of the (indiscernible) 1/3 of the business close. many unvaccinated people fired from their jobs in san francisco. many businesses have been closed. attention, please,b many problems will continue if san francisco leaders include mayor, board of supervisors, all elected officials, department heads and ethic commission are not coming back to god. only god can help you and can revive our city san francisco. for you to shut me off and purposely and not allow me to speak when i raise my hand, that is a violation, it is illegal. you are running a tyranny government. today i'm asking you to look at the real problems, instead of targets me, my volunteers and mayor (indiscernible) >> your 3 minutes

expired. >> deputy city attorney, commissioner, the clerk confirmed mr. (indiscernible) did not have her hand raised and been given a opportunity to speak for item 11. perhaps you can confirm if she has comments to make on item 12 the stipulation regarding mr. colbruno. >> okay. if she still on? if she want to comment specifically on agenda item 12? she used her 3 minutes on item number 11 already. okay. let's move on to public comment on-let's no more comments? >> no. >> public comment is closed. we have a motion and

second unanimous consent? >> yes. >> yep. >> okay, thank you. let's go to agenda item 13. discussion and possible action regarding proposed stipulation decision and order in the matter of bearstar strategy. >> this item continued from the last meeting. the reason is that commissioner romano had to recuse from this item and therefore there was not a quorum because commissioner florez feng had excused absence. she is here so assuming commissioner romano will recuse himself, there is a quorum so why we placed on the agenda today. >> okay. do i is -have a motion? i move to approve. second? >> (indiscernible) >> does commissioner romano have conflict? >> i don't have a financial conflict. i forget

the exact language we talked about. i have a family member involved with bearstar- >> like a due process conflict then perhaps? if you have a conflict you cant be in the room. >> i have a family member who is a principal at bearstar and whether not vote on anything related to them. i think in abundance of caution, i don't want to participate. >> okay. >> generally commissioner, if you dont have a financial or legally required comment you need to ask the commission to recuse you from a vote. you can do that now, leave the room, have them consider the item and then come back. >> okay. >> i would grant that. >> will you excuse me from voting on the item? >> thank you for raising it. important issue. >> we need to vote. >> motion is made. i will call the vote. commissioner finlev.

>> can we do this by- >> yes to allow commissioner romano to remove himself. >> aye. >> commissioner florez feng. >> yes. >> chair lee. >> yes. >> (indiscernible) >> you need to be excused while we take public comment. do we still need to make the motion? renew the motion? >> yeah, you need to answer the item whether you adopt the stipulation, take public comment. >> okay. okay, i move to approve this item. any second? >> second. >> okay. let's go to public comment. >> we have one caller in the queue. please stand by. welcome caller, your 3

minutes begins now. >> well, good afternoon right now. my name is ellen lee, i spoke earlier. you shut me off twice and do not allow me to speak, so this item is another part of government corruption. whatever you do is between 4 commissioners and some paid staff and all related to people who are aponted appointed to you (indiscernible) who are the commissioners who related to what people inside city hall and whether they get paid or not, because i do not trust you each one of you in a business where people try to speak you cut people off, shut people off, lying to the public about people do not respond when people responded to you about people raising hands and you said nobody raising hands. i'm asking you today to look at the real social problems that created by you the

ethic commission and man y of the elected officials instead of targeting a individual like me conservative and candidate that 2019 and still going after people that is not related to anything the problem that you are facing. i'm asking you to moving forward to (indiscernible) city problems, politicians that is corrupted pay by the one world government. i thank you for your time for serving the city and thank you and god bless san francisco. again, my name is ellen lee, thank you for having your time and may god bless you. >> madam chair, no further callers in the queue. >> again, i want the record to reflect that every caller is entitled to three minutes and that's been observed and the

only reason why the mics are turned off is because the three minutes is up and that is a observance that we have fallowed and everybody is welcome to participate in our process. let's go to-can we call back commissioner romano? >> we haven't voted on- >> that's right. we have to vote. roll call, please. motion is made and seconded. >> motion is made. commissioner finlev. >> we do unanimous? >> unanimous. >> okay, thank you. thank you mr. ford. agenda item 14, discussion and

possible action on items for future meetings. okay. let's go to public comment. >> madam chair, we have one caller er in the queue. please stand by. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> my name is ellen lee, i spoke earlier to you today. i was shut off and speak the truth about your one (indiscernible) within the government. i raise my hand and not called to item 11 when my name is in item 11. that is exactly what corruption means. i'm here to ask you for future meetings, all public officials, city leaders to repent, come back to god under the nation our nation is (indiscernible) who believe in the bible. all the meetings in most conservative areas

people start a meeting with pledge and listen to the united states (indiscernible) but not in san francisco. i'm asking you to evaluate our failing city policies in all departments (indiscernible) society problems to solve the dying homeless. our crimes. suffering business and stop companies leaving san francisco. i reported to you the ethic commission department and many department heads about discrimination against non democrats, president trump supporters against conservatives, against god loving people such as christians and catholics, against republic values. i was not allowed to join candidate debate when i run for mayor in 2018 and 2019. i report all the reports to you, i submit so much corruption report to ethic commission, none of you addressed it. i love god, i love san francisco, i

love all of you. i speak the truth to you about solutions to end government corruption. where is my freedom of speech when you shut me off and not allow me to speak during ethic commission. today i ask you to work with leaders to develop policies to reassess your failing project programs policies to help san francisco to come back to the united states constitution rights. all san franciscans deserve the right to happiness, safety, free speech, may god bless san francisco. we turn to god, we turn to (indiscernible) in jesus name, amen, and thank you for your time. >> no comments in the queue. >> public comment is

closed rchlt 15, additional opportunity for public comment on matters not appearing on the agenda pursuant to ethic commission bylaws article vii, section 2. >> what was the question? >> this is the last item, additional comment on anything not related on the agenda. >> can we just do that? >> i thought we did the possible action- >> future meetings we will not have this but it is on the agenda. it is required in the bylaws we have the second general public comment opportunity. >> can i move to amend the bylaws? >> no. >> i have to agendize to-okay. >> let's check on the public comment. >> we have one caller. >> hold on. i want to move to agendize-you don't have a motion. chair puts it on the agenda. >> i read the agenda, we have to listen to public comment and

then you can agendize. >> okay. >> we have one caller in the queue. stand by. welcome caller, your 3 minutes begins now. >> my name is ellen lee zhou. i work for san francisco government as a public health worker. i represent government employees. we have 37 thousand government employees. our public health has more then 11 thousand government employees. i was one of the many people who are not vaccinated, fired by the city, the city fire more then 2,000 people and force many people to leave their job for more then 3,000 people. our government, the ethic commission is part of the government creating the laws,

codes and regulations to stop government corruption, yet, your commissioners and the staff who work with ethic commission, you created a law, but you don't follow the law. i reported to you how the elected officials, the mayor, board of supervisors, the city leaders, health leaders lie to the public about pandemic 2019 by forcing the public to accept appointments, vaccine. now we see more and more people die, yet you are not willing to hear the truth. now, we have a lot of people sick and dying from cancer, we have young people die, we got not (indiscernible) it is called die suddenly. the

codes and regulations for pay employees and are commissions like you, who work for the government and elected officials are not following the codes and regulations they created. do you understand we the people pay you in your seat whether you are willing to accept the commissioner job or not, but you are sitting there representing people. there is only 4 of you voted to represent the entire city. that is a lie that you are running the government. because the people oppose your government, you shut people off, do not allow people to speak and people reported to you, what do you do? you go after the people who reported to you. shame on your people! however, at the same time i do appreciate your time for volunteering some of your time to hear my speech today, my statement today. i am

against government corruption. i tell you the truth about the pandemic, the vaccinations produced in 2018. it was- >> your three minutes exspired. madam chair, we have an additional caller er in the queue. please stand by. >> hello- >> hold on, sir. your 3 minutes begins now. >> hello, dpood afternoon and thank you very much for the opportunity to speak. i call in for two reasons, one to actually commend the commissioner who recused himself. i thought that was something that was quite honorable considering

what we have experienced here with some of the things going on in the news with supreme court justices, so i think that that shows leadership from the commissioner who did that number one, and number two, i do want to say that it is important that transparency be the order of the day at the ethic commission. obviously you have been in session in a closed session for three hours or so. it is important with that said about the closed session that transparency continue to be the very heart of what the ethic commission does here in the city and again, i guess in the spirit again in repeated what i said briefly, the commissioner who recused himself, i i do think that that's an example of what transparency can be and is, so i do want to thank you very much for the opportunity to speak. it is important for us as citizens of this

city to be involved in all the local affairs and to know who your local elected officials are and vote in every local election especially, so thank you very much for the time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> madam chair, no callers in the queue. >> public comment is closed. adjournment. thank you everyone and happy weekday. >> thank you. [meeting adjourned]

>> i try to start every day not looking at my phone by doing something that is grounding. that is usually meditation. i have a gym set up in my garage, and that is usually breathing and movement and putting my mind towards something else. surfing is my absolute favorite thing to do. it is the most cleansing thing that i'm able to do. i live near the beach, so whenever i can get out, i do. unfortunately, surfing isn't a daily practice for me, but i've been able to get out weekly, and it's something that i've

been incredibly grateful for. [♪♪♪] >> i started working for the city in 2005. at the time, my kids were pretty young but i think had started school. i was offered a temporarily position as an analyst to work on some of the programs that were funded through homeland security. i ultimately spent almost five years at the health department coordinating emergency programs. it was something that i really enjoyed and turned out i was pretty good at. thinking about glass ceiling, some of that is really related to being a mother and self-supposed in some ways that i did not feel that i could allow myself to pursue responsibility; that i accepted treading water in my career

when my kids were young. and as they got older, i felt more comfortable, i suppose, moving forward. in my career, i have been asked to step forward. i wish that i had earlier stepped forward myself, and i feel really strongly, like i am 100% the right person for this job. i cannot imagine a harder time to be in this role. i'm humbled and privileged but also very confident. so here at moscone center, this is the covid command center, or the c.c.c. here is what we calledun -- call unified command. this is where we have physically been since march, and then, in july, we developed this unified structure. so it's the department of emergency management, the department of public health, and our human services

hughesing partners, so primarily the department of homelessness and supportive housing and human services agency. so it's sort of a three-headed command in which we are coordinating and operating everything related to covid response. and now, of course, in this final phase, it's mass vaccination. the first year was before the pandemic was extremely busy. the fires, obviously, that both we were able to provide mutual support but also the impact of air quality. we had, in 2018, the worst air quality ten or 11 days here in the city. i'm sure you all remember it, and then, finally, the day the sun didn't come out in san francisco, which was in october. the orange skies, it felt

apocalyptic, super scary for people. you know, all of those things, people depend on government to say what's happening. are we safe? what do i do? and that's a lot of what department of emergency management's role is. public service is truly that. it is such an incredible and effective way that we can make change for the most vulnerable. i spend a lot of my day in problem solving mode, so there's a lot of conversations with people making connections, identifying gaps in resources or whatever it might be, and trying to adjust that. the pace of the pandemic has been nonstop for 11 months. it is unrelenting, long days, more than what we're used to, most of us. honestly, i'm not sure how we're getting through it.

this is beyond what any of us ever expected to experience in our lifetime. what we discover is how strong we are, and really, the depth of our resilience, and i say that for every single city employee that has been working around the clock for the last 11 months, and i also speak about myself. every day, i have to sort of have that moment of, like, okay, i'm really tired, i'm weary, but we've got to keep going. it is, i would say, the biggest challenge that i have had personally and professionally to be the best mom that i can be but also the best public certify chant in whatever role i'm in. i just wish that i, as my younger self, could have had someone tell me you can give it and to give a little more

nudge. so indirectly, people have helped me because they have seen something in me that i did not see in myself. there's clear data that women have lost their jobs and their income because they had to take care of their safety nets. all of those things that we depend on, schools and daycare and sharing, you know, being together with other kids isn't available. i've often thought oh, if my kids were younger, i couldn't do this job, but that's unacceptable. a person that's younger than me that has three children, we want them in leadership positions, so it shouldn't be limiting. women need to assume that they're more capable than they think they are. men will go for a job whether they're qualified or not. we tend to want to be 110% qualified before we tend to

step forward. i think we need to be a little more brave, a little more exploratory in stepping up for positions. the other thing is, when given an opportunity, really think twice before you put in front of you the reasons why you should not take that leadership position. we all need to step up so that we can show the person behind us that it's doable and so that we have the power to make the changes for other women that is going to make the possibility for their paths easier than ours. other women see me in it, and i hope that they see me, and they understand, like, if i can do it, they can do it because the higher you get, the more leadership you have, and power.

the more power and leadership we have that we can put out

>> good morning the meeting will come to order the april 28 homelessness and behavioral health select committee meeting i'm supervisor ronen chair of the committee and i'm joined by vice chair mandelman and supervisor preston who is subing for supervisor walton. our clerk is stefani cabrera and like to thank michael at sfgovtv for broadcasting this meeting. before i ask the clerk to make announcements i would like to address the body. >> i'd like to welcome this body and the public