i tried make a key chain it was too big. let me go through the report i will keep the award up. all right. so -- we are currently opened over 300 cases so far this year. and we closed 344 case. we have opened pending case now 261 cases and sustained 28 case. there are 22 cases. who investigations have extended beyond a 9 month period the deadline is a year for the 3304 deadline. dpa has not violated or lost a case for 3304 in over 5 years now that would precede my position at dpa.

of the 22 case that have investigations that have gone longer than 9 months. 20 cases are cold. meaning there is outside litigation in the criminal courts or civil courts that is telling the time on the cases. currently, we have outstanding cases outstanding there are 6 cases that are pending decisions with the commission. and 88 case catharsis pending decisions with the chief. in terms of weekly trends. i will articulate the top trends of the week. 20% the top allegations. 20% are allegations of officer failing to promptly respond to a scene when called. and then 20% of the allegations involve an officer failing to take a required action.

they are allegations that come in to dpa's office. for the full lives all for 100% you can look at those allegations online at the dpa website. there is also a full break down i will not read all. in terms of the district break down the highest allegations came >> southern station, mission station and ingleside had 2. freshman each the precincts the highest this week when i broken down when they are. if you want to see each specific allegations you can look at that full sum row of the report online. againful these other allegations and types of cases that come in and the allegations not a reflection of sustained case or investigations yet from dpa. in terms of out roach.

we are askings the public to provide input on updates to dgo3 opinion where are 5 the department weapon return panel. those of you that are interested. i see we have a full audience here. and those watch figure you are interested in providing input visit our twitter page sf-dpa it has been pin exclude the information on how to provide feedback on those are in that pinned tweet. can you finds that on the website. >> in terms of audit. an award wing audit department at dpa. i don't know if i mentioned that here is the award. for this year. we don't have last year's here. but we reviewed the p d 30 month

sponses to use of force audit. and the recommendations which won the award this is the award for an upon did she audit. but those responses for recommendations in a follow up. when we have the audits well is a follow up with the recommendations with the department. and so that is happening now. we will provide an update on those recommendations and whether or not they have been fulfilled or how they have been fulfilled. and that will presentation will be presented at the commission with a focus on the recommendations outstanding at the send of the review. >> we have nothing on the agenda for the closed session. tonight after this meeting is over. but in case issues come up during the meeting where we can be helpful, present and the court and the hearing room today is senior investigator candice

carpenter. also present is -- chief of staff sarah hawkins. also present from staff is karen turner. and also present is >> our attorney thompson as well as in case anyone noticed there are interns here we will get to them they are part of the agenda i want to welcome them. thank you for coming. and if folks need to get in contact with dpa they can contact us through the website sfgov.org/dpa and 415-241-7711. that concludes my report. and i have other issues but i am reserve my comments until they are called on to agenda. moving forward. that's it.

>> thank you, director henderson and welcome inturns we are happy to have you and luck tow have director thompson there. so. let's turn to item 1. sergeant. public comment and item one. please >> members of the public who would like. here. >> members who would like to comment on item 5 approach the podium. >> there is no public comment. >> selfies with it later >> commissioner walk are wanted it on a gold chain for you. >> that will be for people who want to take selfies. should be front and center. why let's go to item 1 >> item 1. weekly officer recognition certificate the officer who was gone above in the performance of duties. officer susie der star 4265 ingleside station.

>> congratulations on your award. >> i'm lieutenant oval the currently captain for ingleside station. i want to start off and make sure i acknowledge the passing of former commander kit krebshaw and officer chrissander son. i want to get this out there. second, absolute privilege to have the opportunity top present to the chief to the commission director anderson. um -- we than we face a lot of challenges. i look for the positive things i don't dwell on negative when things were presented us at our stations i don't complain about what they are i look how are we going to solve it. that's our role when i look to resources within the station, on how we will solve that as we move forward, i know what the

most number one things this will require is team work. and when you look around at the officers and stuff and look for the people that embody team work, embody the mission of serving the public. i don't have to look too far than officer susie der. she is 15 year veteran of the police department of your police department. she is grew up in the city. a native of san francisco. multilingual. rural high school. lives in the city still. and i don't think you can look you have to look further than the qualities she brings to the job to the community. her level of service and level commitment to addressing, when called, is above and beyond. her knowledge of the law, her

ability when i started dealing with susie helped mow out in investigations. her level of performance in handling investigations was astounding nothing left unturned. commitment to doing things correctly. was i can't say more. it was exceptional. as we move forward, susie will be a part of san francisco moving forward. and i have to say i can't say enough about her and what she brings to the table and appreciate her being a part of the station and san francisco pd and a part of the city. susie? thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. born and raised in san francisco. very proud to be here. [applause] susie.

recognition of your dedication of professionalism demonstrated throughout outstanding community policing practices and inspiring greatness by empetch fighting police officers as guardians of our community. i think i hope you take that to heart. such an example dedication worthy of the highest esteem by san francisco and the san francisco police department. [applause] >> thank you captain. for honoring the officer. no you can't go yet. i would like to thank you. obviously. and for chosing this officer the qualities that we this is the officer we want to join our workforce a native, female, someone who shows team work and has integrity. we want to thank you for your service and i will turn it over

to the chief. >> thank you. president and officer, thank you. i want to thank the commission for recognizing officers, for the daily great work. not the level of awards that come before the mission but it was a great thing they did in recognizing the data they were a lot of mall things that turned out to are extraordinary. because of the way it is done and the way you do it. thank you for your service and your work. and of appreciate you. thank you. thank you very much. president elias, thank you for honoring susie der our members in the police department. for her service and she is what officers are all about public safety and committed to our community throughout the city.

so, continued success and hope to see more reports on your outstanding work. thank you again. >> commissioner walker. >> thank you. president elias. thank you, captain. for bring the officer forward. thank you for serving the qualities mentioned working with community and part is when we need to do now especially in our city. so i really justment to say, thank you for that and bringing us together. and being a role model. and especially for other young girls think burglar what to do with their lives. you know. you served a good model, thank you. >> commissioner? >> thank you, president elias and thank you officer der for your service to our community. i think you are helping us

create a safe san francisco and you really are an imperative element of safety in san francisco and i think you will help us promote and get to 40 by 30 >> 50 by 30. >> we are trying to hire more women you are the standard there for good work. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> okay >> go ahead. chief. do you want to do public comment and the interns come up. >> okay. >> members of public would like to comment regarding line item 1. weekly officer recognition. prop the podium. president there is no public comment. >> great. so at this time think it would be a benefit for us we did not give you a proper hello the dpa

interns and director thompson come up so we can ski your beautiful shining faces and get a closeup of our beautiful shining faces. you know we want to get you camera time. members we are willing item 5. dpa director's report. >> i'm going to give you a bioof everyone. [laughter] this will be like graduation. yes. director henderson hold on to that award. those of you that have been to a graduation i will speak briefly about each one. >> they know they are live and in living color tonight i'm so excited this . is our largest groups yet for interns. huge. how did you recruit. how did director thompson.

but other then and there that. yooch not for nothing but a lot know we are an award winning agency. this is the second national award we have won. so we could not be more proud of social justice and reform. i will not talk. mrs. thompson. >> dmroor is yours >> thank you. president elias and vice president carter and commissioners chief scott. members of the public i'm an attorney and director of recruitment for department of police accountability and i could not be more honord and blessed introduce you to our largest summer intern law and justice cohort we ever had since i took over in 2019. started with 8 and now we moved to 25. i know we are a mall but mighty

agency. we have over 25 gifted young people representing 9 colleges and universities. and also 4 law schools from across the count rye. what makes this even class more special is that we have our first time ever hbcu cohort. we intentionally recruit federal hour university and morehouse college and sent the job announcements went to dc left october to have you know a recruiting tain a job recruiting table for our program. and we have talented young people. this would not be possible. we were able and also a first of many for the program. offered them housing at usf. thanks to doctor davis. mayor breed's opportunity for all program and the human right's commission able to provide that to the young people we know how expensive housing is

in san francisco. so they can be a part of our program. and we were able to secure housing from osa as about and we were offering a professional development summer internship. in addition our class is 87% of bipoc individuals we are happy. executive director i'm grateful he entrusted mow to execute what he built. he was my mentor and hired me. we were able to partner. we can't fit all of them but we have amazing partners in the city and we are excited that we were able to filter out the interns and give them help in other agencies including the department on status of women of juvenile probation.

supervisor walton. dhr. office community product. the office cannabis. just to name a few taking them on as well to give them the full ccsf experience. and thank you again it would not be possible without our coordinator karen turn and staff for embracing them. we went to a young adult core on monday and we marched in the first parade. we will march with the mayor in pride and going to the 15 women from bayview fashion show this friday. we have a fun filled summer plan we'll be speaking to you all may know dj. just to name a few this is the program i'm proud sxf proud you all have embraced us and that accepting the interns i could

not be more proved them. thank you for giving me the upon opportunity top present them to you tonight. [applause]. thank you. and welcome. we are happy to have you. we hope that you sounds like youville an amazing experience i want to sign up. powerful to see the diversity. and amazing every year you know i have to give it to you, you it expands the more diverse the experiences that you offer. the young working professional system amazing. and it seems like every time we get a new class the opportunity that director henderson provides will serve you later in life. thank you. why yes. i was telling them we had this and talking about young adult

core and collaborations and work together and so president elias and i had cases together. she would send me her mitigation packets. it is a full circumstantial and he will everything is connected here in san francisco. >> upon commissioner benedicto. >> thank you for bring the interns and thank you to all of you coming and congratulationses on would you recall achievement. amazing they secure all activities and housing. and when i got a metro card that was it. [laughter]. >> yes. >> you should really relish the opportunity to do this work. i -- i believe that every all the commission interned at some

point and i can trace my opportunity to intern nothing college. relish the upon opportunity to learn from the people you need the mentor and departments you are in and each other. eksz can you build with your peers will be valuable going forward. and to see a diverse group is amazing. and also your impact on your agencyos dpa can owner state i can't have year the interns put together a presentation. and this is a policy by the commission. doing real work and make our city a better place thank you for that. >> thank you. thank you so much. you will hear from them the end of summer than i will present the work they did.

i want to point out dpa or occ never had an internship program it has been exciting to build this from the grounds up the state it is now and part of the issue is capitolizing on success and leveraging our outside partners. able to place a lot of the interns and -- departments that is also have not had programs but because we had the structure in place we see them in other departments to give them exposure. you will hear about it end of summer. thank you for your time and attention and allowing the young folks to be here in front of you. chief? thank you. i want to compliment the director for what a wonderful program and i gotta say. those of you that are going to law school, san francisco police department is hiring so -- if you want to have an interest in

making policing better, join us. the starting salary. its in the 6 figures. 110 thousand dollars. that got attention. representation matters. one last we'll ask your name and college and let you go. >> that is it your name and college. and prepared at the end of the semester when you prevent that's when we bombard you with questions. [inaudible]. [cannot hear interns speaking]

ales, usf law. >> alina, howard university. mia campbell. >> madison usf law. jeremiah johnson [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [cannot hear interns speaking] welcome. [applause]. thank you for your time and allowing them to speak on tv. everyone knows being on tv is the highest form of communication. that is a big score for everyone. members who does like to comment

on item 5 approach the podium. there is no public comment. line item 4 chief's report. discussion. public safety occurrence over view of events in san francisco impact on public safety. commission discussion on activities the chief limited to determining for a future meeting chief scott. >> thank you. good evening president elias and vice president carter. i will sdart with the major incidents because we had a number of shootings and i want to start with the shoot negligent mission district. on friday night. had 9 individuals that were shot. thankfully nobody lost their lives in that shooting. it was a hairy situation. what i can say i know there has been media report and news

reports that i can't confirm or otherwise, what is reported but i can say this we have made good progress in our investigators are working hard on this case. we believe that this incident was not connected to any of the other incidents the shootings or anything else at this point. and the next night we had 3 people shot in ingleside district at a night club that one we believe is inspect incident of any other crimes. or shootings. and then the follow up with that there was a person shot in the tenderloin over the weekend. that was killed. so, in all 16 people shot. one did not survive the weekend which is significant. and beside putting energy this is trying to solve these one

thing we'll do and done in the mission is provided extra uniform patrol in that area. until we nailed down what happened. same in ingleside. tenderloin that is on going a lot of deploy am there. this did happen over night. which we know is a struggle for us this was brought up last week by commissioner beryl and others we reached out to partners in terms of law enforcement to disseminate information come bring the cases to resolution and we will keep the commission updated on those case. as far as the crimes statistics themselves. we are 7% below this time last year. that's a difference of 1600 over

less. and violent crime up 4%. that's a differents of less than a00. and in termings of fireman related homicide, there are 3 more than last year 12-15 a 25% increase. total gun violence victims with 3 where we were this time last year. 6 above. that is a 6% increase. 100 year to date compared to 94. our property crape is driving our negative in crime this year. down 8% in property crime lead by burglars. and upon deaths over all. we have had up tick in robbery this is year that is something we are working hard to determine which are street level robberies taking something in custody

about there is work. mainly happening in tenderloin part of the central district and the eastern part of northern district is where the hot spots are. that is street, commercial robberies and residential robberies. overnight weekend stunt driving multiple on saturday. to sunday morning example these were over night. stunt driving response lieutenant rallied the resources necessary to break up several of these events and for those of who you are not familiar with stunt driving it is side shows. and we were able to break them up and an initial cars went each notified the east bay police department and we are like we always do investigating trying to identify the vehicles that were involved. there was one site and others

that night no cars impounded. one i know about was we could not prove there was participation but did have serious traffic violations. and just to note we impounds since we started involved in these events impounded 70 cars and 75, i'm sorry and all after the fact. >> so our folks are doing a good job identifying vehicles the message is you may get away but that does not mean you will get away with it. if we identify you and your car we will get the warranty to impound and seize your vehicle tell be seized for 30 days we are really trying to deter this activity it it is dangerous. other eventses the past week. we had the onhomicide that occur on church street and happened 1. . upon 37 a.m.

no suspects the investigation is on going and i talked about the other shooting. another significant arrest occurod june fifth. from a june fifth incident when the victim was followed by unknown male shot at antilbgtq+ against the victim. suspect through a glass object at the victim and sustained injuries. through the investigation the person was identified as a subject digs counts felt with a deadly weapon and hate crime. let me say we seen a lot in the news about heavily things against lbgtq+ community.

>> before the support by people have an understand thanksgiving city embraces who they are. no for hate period everything we have until we take people in custody commode them accountable through the justice system for actions. there is no support. talk a little about tenderloin efforts we have an agenda item for that. to track on the amount of arrests and possession for sales. and fentanyl we recovered. today we have recovered or seized 61, 449 grams of fence nal off the street this . time

last year that was at 23, 801. . significant explosion of the amount and we know now with the over dose death will talk about in tonight's presentation. we also know this is a problem in the city. able to arrest the people responsible for sale in efforts to do that conditioning. year to date 378. this it is as of june 11th arrests for possession for sales. and we will continue that effort. that is up from last year. and i want to say not about the number of rests we have to get out and disrupt the activity through enforcement but we really are looking for difference on the streets and we are looking for reduction in the

availability of drugs we understands an rest or 378 is not the answer to the problem. there are other issues that rolled in this. but as far as what the police department can do. that is one thing we can and shall do is make arrestos drug dealers dealing drugs in our city and streets. that's where we are with that. one other follow up vice president carter overstone asked whether or not we use surveillance cameras during the nicoles death after that incident in tennessee we did request but did not use it and request today because of the information that was coming in what might happen across the country. because our city was peaceful and there were no violent protests. none that rose to the level us needing to use that. surveillance.

equip so we did not. thank you. chief. thanks chief. i wanted to ask a question about that. as you mentioned we are reported the department did not review the live footage from the protest. i was thought it might be useful we are early in this process of this policy in real life if you could walk through the department's residential for first why it sought permission for the to view the footage and decided not to view it. >> thank you for the opportunity to do that. when we have these types of situations and the nicoles case there was much concern across

the country that we may see what we saw in 2020 after the death of mr. george floyd. as far as the information that shared. me and some of our command staff on calls with chiefs. and we were all concerned of what might happen. we knew in 2020 that after the video of george floyd's death got released we had significant issue in the city and other place. so -- we have to be prepared that they may happen and part of and addition to the request to if need be view live surveillance we significantly staffed up. called people from home. cancelled days off. and we staffed up to be prepared for what might happen. thank goodness none of that

happened. we did not need to trigger the use of that surveillance video and to answer your question what would have triggered it if we saw the level of violence arson, assaults and things of this nature we saw in 2020, that would trigger because that allows you to deal with that situation effectively. gives us bird's eye view and put the resources where we need them you don't want to wait until something happens to get that technology. when you are anticipating the things may happen. again, it did not we did not have to nor did we use all the officers we had in the city that night we sent them home. that was the thought process. >> thank you, chief. a follow up. what would so -- imagine we did not see vanld limp or assaults

or anything but the crowds size was large. would that be a reason to view the footage? >> it not necessarily. i mean. things can turn quickly when you have large crowds the nature. why they are there but not necessarily. we dealt with large crowds before and you get the temperament if you can never say never but -- sometimes you know because of the volatility of the people involved in there. that things might go side ways. some situations are more escalated than others. it is up to that incident commander to determine whether or not that is necessary. we try to be we are very judicious on that we know it it is sensitive topic and don't want to use it when we don't need to. there are with the new ordinance and the changes in the ordinance

that happened since i think before nicoles that dints where we can for the purposes of the demroit ploy am access. but that was not in place then we will had not at that point come to the commission to explain policies. so it can happen. we are judicious and will do that if we are faced with that situation. but we want to get the public confidence we'll not use it just indiscriminately. that is our goal. >> thank you, chief. >> thank you. president elias. chief, i am interesting in the incident on 24th. there were report this is indicated that these were connected to previous ins debts i think i heard you say it was not connected.

>> we don't have evidence it was connected to incidents reported and canaveral was one there is no evidence of that what so ever. staff went out and we did able to trace the source of the information and verify that that was misinformation put out. i can't say how it got twisted up. there were no merit >> thank you. misinformation can escalate. when there is this type of activity takes place. when these newspaper articles outlets put out reports with incorrect information is there a process for to you correct or put something out? >> well. i can tell you i and many others penalty time on the phone saturday night and sunday trying to get to the bottom of this. and including community members. this is why it is important top

have relationships with community. we spent a lot of time on the phone getting to the source where that information came from when we did and validated that this it is in the what was said or. and had no connection to carnival we reached out to the source the media source. they work with us on that. i was told they retracted a tweet and i -- did not get on twittory verify but told they did. i know they were willing to work with us on sort this out. we spent time and energy. you are right, these rumors when hay are not validated can cause damage. to people and communities. and00 autolast thing on that incident i think there was will driverless vehicles that created unnecessary obstacle at a know i

noticed this happening more and more. when the incidents take place and consume resources this happen in the front of my house. driverless car and 4 officers close the street to deal with this issue. what can we do to hold them accountable? it it is a good question. the bright side is the companies this are tefth the vehicle in our city they are really they -- work with us and work with the city. there is you know a person in the mayor's office i think it is -- can't remember the name that helps coordinate this we have a liaison through traffic company. command are walsh and his team that communicates with the companies and that did happen.

will cars the way i understand the technology they pick up on the light from the police car and programed do so. like pullover and stop, whatever. thesis are things we have to work through. we have contact information to get to their operator who is control the cars and we are able to resolve it. we have to work through. i don't tell you when the answer will be we have to workllow and may be answer is just a quick are response. times where people near cars and you gotta get them out of the way and ask them to move. i'm going to encourage we monitor and invoice them.

>> thank you. >> thank you very much. president elias. i had a request do we have a year to date on the ghost guns we seized. >> we do. >> and is there any strategy to try to this it is not the local level on the federal level to discourage sale of the ghost guns coming out of other states? >> yea. there are. the number to date let's see. ghost guns we have had -- 494. >> wow. >> year to date an 11% increase over 2022. i'm sorry. wait a minute. ghost guns a 13% decrease. taken less off the street since 2022. that there has been legislation passed last year that federal

legislation with the parks. making a gun is about the parts and availability. we will see as this rolls on whether that legislation helps. i can peek and try to finds out whether well is movement on that as far as companies that have been at action against. i don't think so at this point bicity attorney chu this is important to him. how to get the guns off the street. >> i'm concerned about availability of the ghost guns

people can manufacture them or buy through other distributors or people selling them. that would be my main concern. prolific. last week you got 7 people shot? 12 people shot. so -- my request silent stunt driving i wonder we have chp in the city now. i know not 24/7 are they involved in deployment and stunt driving, to y. they do assist like over the weekend. a lot of people involved go east. we had success in innervenaling upon disrupting further disrupting and making sure that what city they are trying to set

up in -- the communication is there to disrupt that activity and the same west to san francisco often times we get notified by partner agencies they are coming and set and up waiting on them. some of the place where the go are common. and go to the spaces and they -- scatter and go other places. so it is really a cat and mouse game but something we do to dheep at bay. >> lastly. thank you, chief. and your i guess and members bring down crime in the city. will duly noted year to dealt drop being 7% compared to what is reported by others. thank you very much. thank you. >> members who would like to comment regarding line item 4 the chief's report approach the

podium. good evening again. talking about my son again. how is it you know i guess talk about all the shootings happening. and one killing is too much. and there are tip sthers came through on the killings. again, how can you pay tip sters to come fourth? may be if you pay off people letting them believe that you will pay them this is why my son's case is in the solved. the snitch culture. you know. i'm not going to tell on you you don't tell on me. i believe that money involved and you do pay people off some will come fourth even for cold

cases like mine. with the men that got shot upon reasonable that was brought up some of those case get solved. because not going to happen unless somebody change the laws about how people can get paid to do something. you know -- there are people that know who murder my son. if you give them incentive look a tip. a tip. paid them off. hire someone to do analysis on what to do about other ways to solve homicides so myself like mothers and fathers like myself will not have to come here every wednesday and stand here sometimes i feel [inaudible] doing this. i do. i'm going to keep doing it. because my son deserveed live am

he was full of life am full of life anniversary is august 14 and tell be 17 years. 17 years. that citizen end. commission reports discussion and possible action. limited to a brief description of events and determining whether the calendar the, raised for future meeting. commission president's report. commission and announce ams and item for consideration in a future meeting. thank you. a couple items to report. this last monday as anyone noticed city hall was flying the filipino flag and lit up to

commemorate. i was there for the flag raising. it is an honor along side president elias to provide filipino representation to the commission and also participated in pride opwith the chief the sheriff's and fire department. and that was great to attends as well but the main thing i like to report on was manage yesterday i had the privilege yesterday attending the gifford law center to prevent gun violence 30 anniversary gala. it was an inspiring event. heard from former congress woman gaby gifford and first lady biden. and but the thing i want to share with the commission and the public is this pin i have. it is a pin that says, no

thought s and prayers policy and change and -- this pin was maedz by an elementary school student, gonzalez, and she is a students at robb elementary. and 19 classmates and 2 teachers killed in the mass in validy and this student turned into an activist who speaks with clarity and truth and made the pins honor and conduct activism to honor classmate and allow her to continue advocacy and seeing this pin receiving it and hearing from survivors and families of those who lost lives in massacre its is reminder of the things reflect the best and worse of humanity it is

unacceptable and horrifying we 8 young activists gun control and watch them conduct themselves with grace and clarity that would put adult politicians to shame inspire to see. and i want to report and share the pins with the commission and say that i know anything i can do i know the other commissioners, to what role we play to prevenn end gun violence and there are ways the commission does that the department worked on gun buy backs. i know that the department working on ghost guns with commission worked and the department worked reduce officer involved shootings to form gun violence. but -- you know after that event it is important to reminds the admissible this we are committed to making sure that gun violence

and -- that -- is preventd and end in the comments and solutions that can be connected. i have spoken at the gala a survivor the park land shooting mentioned that they believed that they were another student they were the last generation to deal with this. they would not subject their children to active shooter drill in kinder gar and i know believe they and will we can help them. this concludes my report. thank you. >> thank you, commissioner benedicto. >> thank you, president elias. quick report had a meeting with jpd commission president margaret and the clark folks trying to make sure we are continuing the conversation about developing a prebooking alternative. and we are making progress in

identifying the challenges are. and so i hope that we will be able to move in the resolution phase soon. after we get an updated report on where the department is with the current diversion efforts. and along with that i did want to ask if there was a projected time line for the 701 draft which i believe we sufficient received an extension requested or there was a need for more time to develop that. is there a time line for that to come our way? can i follow up on that. >> i did in the get a request across my desk. i will follow up. >> correct me if i'm wrong. i think it is in [inaudible] it was reviewed by the city attorney's office with what was. >> got it. >> i think i will confirm with you. >>. s i can follow up.

>> thank you. i had a meeting with safer inside and treatment on demand coalitions who are very interested in the subject the item we'll discuss around the policing strategies one shared research. this -- called the american journal of public health study impact of mortality rates. and it indicates that there was a study done in indianapolis and data suggesting policing displaces users and home will

folks and puts them at risk. the study demonstrated that it found within the sick minute walk of each drug arrest opioid over dose deaths doubled. do you have any kinds of comments or thoughts on how it is we can address this crisis without purke people for place they are going to be using the isolated and potentially contribute to the over dose issues? i have not seen the study. i know thereupon has been talk about way tos it deal with the issue. consumption sights. research on that as well.

i will not go far now i will cover it on the item. i would like to seat study wore looking for a solution that helps it is about the over dose and it is issue you raised and much about when is happenoth streets. i don't think anybody will not say that that is happening on street system okay and that's the alternative. we are looking for solutions. in the meantime, when is happening on street system unacceptable. the deaths themselves that are -- tragic and horrific. but i don't think we near a position we can say. because namight be the case if this study is valid or evidence is -- validated what those --

under lying, broughtow that the alternatives should be sit on hand and let this happen on streets. we cannot do that. i do think because we are in that position it has not made us put us in a better position for sure. i don't have the answer to the medical part of this. i'm aware on the stuff and try to read and try to offer solutions that might finds that balance. that's what we are trying to do. gi think chief table it for the item. can you provide that to the commission office to get that post exclude may be we can add it as a follow up item. gi will share this. the presentation today will not be a one time only situation this is on going conversation

that needs to be had. you know we are talking about this item but wanted include this in my report typeset is a conversation i had and will post for the next item. violent. thank you. 2 quick updates. had the pleasure of attending the haight ashbury neighborhood council meeting last week to discuss public safety issues. going by captain iac heart and melissa hernandez from supervisor preston's office. great conversation. anything to hear thought and occurrence and ideas of the phonings in the haight relating to public safety and had another working group meeting in the on going development of dto8-10 for first amendment surveillance activities.

we have one more working. commissioner walker. >> thank you. a couple update to the projects i'm working on. one being to work with the department on the scientists women with department director jones. we had a second follow up meeting with them and -- supervisor melgar's office. to discuss what the department of on the status of women their per inning with us to increase recruit am of women in the force. it is exciting. we will have plans and actual scheduling of things we do. includes partnering with neighborhood group events. as well as doing out reach on our own in each of the

supervisorial districts with the neighborhood groups in each. and hopefully it look at over the longhaul a conversation about what we can do with the system itself to make it a more attractive option for women to come in the force. that's excite and on going discussions with the community benefit districts and community folks about the special and it is opportunity and private sector to partner with all of the city efforts to deal with the issues we are talking about today. so -- more mindsful way. so that will be ready after our break. in september to put on the agenda. have a discussion and see what the commission thinks and -- how we can go forward in a way this helps. we need to work on the issues together that is clear and all of this.

so. i appreciate the opportunity to do it. and -- it has been that. i appreciate working with commissioner benedicto on the resolutions coming forward we will talk about. so. that's it. >> thank you. >> commissioner yee. >> thank you. got a chance to visit the crime lab. got to see interesting [inaudible]. i will not say anything i will let you go and you put on your clean suit and mask up. yao are lucky. you got the new facility the old was not so nice. [laughter] it it is 21st century crime lab. doing great stuff out there one thing i did ask them about the ghost guns and wow, just it it is real out there. hopeful low we can shed light and tackle that problem about shootings. that is happening throughout city and the country.

also. to -- had a conversation with -- on regarding dgo6 opinion 14. psychological evaluation of adults the main features we have facing the city. great to talk with from dpa jonnel kaywood and her team. captain tumor and lieutenant collins and henderson looking forward to more information. that's all i have to report. >> may be we can have the crime will be come and give a presentation they came a couple years back, chief? when they moved in. you can look in coordinating that. >> getting them to talk you to. >> and we have the director powell. >> yes. >> hello. >> one of the presentations. >> okay. come on up now and tell us.

[laughter]. okay. all right. upon sounds good. one last the police commission recognize monday is john teenth. celebrates the end of slave row in the united states and commencement rites june 19th 1865 the soldiers brought the news of emancipation enslif in the galveston, texas. out lawed slavery. this monday is june 19th as juneteenth we hope you celebrate that amazing day >> members who would like to comment regarding item 6 approach the podium. public comment in no, ma'am. you can. there are no public comments.

>> we are taking the next 2 out of order 8 and 7. 8, discussion and possible action urging the board of supervisors major's office to support funds and implement the cart model vult everas a resulted of meeting by community stake hold exerts engage with cart. coalition on the process from the broad cord nayed public health response to homelessness. discussion and possible action. >> thank you. i will turn it over to commissioner benedicto. i'm excited >> thank you very much. i'm excited, toochlt thank you all colleagues for considering this resolution. we had a tremendous presentation from the coalition in april i until belabor the point. a couple take aways why we are here. on january 16 of 2020 commission unanimously passed a resolution

kicked off a 2 year process. cart is near and dear to this commission's heart. and in that time, the cart program is not been implemented as other pieces broader response to homelessness have been implemented. after a tremendous presentation from the cart coalition i had time the commission reiterate support for cart. it is long passed time for cart to be implemented. in the city of san francisco and long past time to have it as a tool for response. to homelessness as a public health response. and long passed time we get this program off grounds to join and coordinated with other programs that the city and county implemented allow for a broad and expanded response to homelessness. it is -- will having the discussion on the tenderloin

efforts tonight. worth noting we get announcements about law enforcement increases. but not as much about increasing the broad are response of public health response. a community lead response i hope this resolution brings attention to that. the problems we face around homelessness are whole of community problems and require a whole of community solutions. and that's where this resolution is designed to support. calls for a response and calls for cordination. and expanded response in the way we deal with homelessness as a city and county of san francisco. couple of thank yous i would like to make before we hear folks from the cart coalition on the commission i like to thank commissioner working on drafting this. thank fellow xhfrns as well walker providing revisions on the coordination point as it was drafted. the chief i asked who should be

the point person. send it to me that is appreciated. i like to thank director policy dpa worked on the resolution from the dp aside and of course, and also to the commission staff for minidraftss we got edits they must be sick of my e mails and a hard felt thanks to the cart coalition here since 2020. fighting for this program and continuing to advocate and push forward now well over 2 dozen community organizations or part of the 2 year process and endorsed the cart program and coalition. i would like to recognize jennifer wagner from league of women voters and coalition of homelessness.

>> who working lobby the commission for 8 years ago when i got forced go on that side of the table and thank you for your work and looking forward to hearing from members of community. looking forward to my fellow commissioners question and a unanimous row as in 20 twenty to support the implementation of this public health responsibles. i make a motion to adopt the resolution. you will second it and i think it was before 2020, advocating for cart to provide presentation. vice president carteder. >>im be brief it was in april when we had the until up cart

presentation the commission was inunidated boy avalanche of evidence that supported the type of intervention. one piece number stuck in my mind we heard that 15% of calls for service would be be called for issues the courteous team would address amounted to 8 to 10,000 a year. that is a massive amount calls. that could be rerouted from officers to responders in a time of low staffing. it is long paddled due for us to enact manage like cart so that officers can address matters that they are more well suited address and higher priority come effective at addressing. and other folks can be first

line responders for homelessness. thank you. i wanted to say that we do believe and understand on this commission and department that a police sponse to homelessness will never solve the challenges that our home will constate wents experience and residents house, unhouses, tourists the department staff also are not in the this field. to be policing home. with this resolution we are sending a message that we are not the solution to homelessness. we don't claim to be and we don't want to be. so what we can do to make sure the cart program and in its full comprehensive design. implements not elements of it.

we want this full program to be the alternative response system. commissioner walker >> thank you. this issue is at the front and centers of all of our attention. and i think all of us here agree the police response is not where we mead to go. it it is not working or where we should be so i really appreciate all the work the community group s i hope this message the city's responsibility to have an

infrastructure that helped people responded to, we fail in that sometimes as a city. the movement is aimed at that not specific low around one program like the cart recommendations but all of them to hold them to create a communication system between everybody and also -- what happens next and where do people get taken to? what other opportunity to actually make sure people are getting what they need. i appreciate this encourages people working together i will do what i can to continue the pressure on the city to create the infrastructure so this all of these organization

everorganizations. i'm anything to say when i'm on the street doing a ride along and wait 45 machines to hour and a half to have a hot team sponse that is a failure of infrastructure. it is not the police there is no other infrastructure doing that job. upon i'm homeful this will help bring everybody together and keep the voice of cart active. again, thank you for bring us all inform bring the cart group in and we look forward to how this works on going. it is not a one time agenda item we'll check in on it and make sure that even if it is not our response that somebody is doing it. thank you. >> thank you very much, president elias. i want to chime in and thank for

all your hard work. care people and put thanksgiving forward temperature is needed in the city. long over due. thank you for putting out the resolution i will support this resolution as well. so wish you will bechlt thank you. >> sergeant, public comment and vote? >> members who like to comment regarding line item 8. approach the podium. >> we have a number of people here today i'm jennifer. league of women voters of san francisco. the role of my organization mainly to provide operational support and encourage the

process go well we were part of the original cart conversations. we want all that hard work continued. i appreciate the responsiveness i spoken to all the commissioners about cart. i appreciate you having the presentation. working so hard on getting a resolution that is clear and so supportive. and well are a number of people here you have a lot of items and we decidesed restrain ourselves and not have a lot of public comment i want to have a rounds of amruz for everyone who came out to support! [applause]. >> good evening will folks. i'm not with the organization she mentioned i cut in line. but anyways i'm a lifelong residents of san francisco.

who now live in d5 and i'm here to share my support of the compassionate care cart act. we have a saying the, when police don't necessarily have the appropriate [inaudible] to respond to homelessness. because of lack of trin and expertise, this contributes to the problems we see today. this is why the public healing response lead by trained health and human service workers will place the previous alternatives. this is the first step toward the implementation of a mental health health care job training sxemgz. am opportunity to thousand unhose in the the city. this program prioritizes the use of pierce with lived experiences trained as behavioral health professionals. to echo what you have said about like 3 minutes ago.

this prioritization reduced the i have 11 responses you have associated with homelessness. to evoke district 7 supervisor is time this city got cart going. cart will help bridge gap with the government and unhoused communities of san francisco. and promise a step in the right direction to address the crisis. i strongly urge this body to support this initiative. thank you. hi. help to be here employmented thank chief scott. commissioner benedicto for bring thanksgiving forward. you know the struggle to impelement cart in some way system lesson in fortitude. right? we will keep at it. and sad low not my only lesson

in fortitude but certainly we have a situation where everything is coming together. we have an a lot of over time in the police department. a strain in that direction. we also have a huge need on the streets. and there is another piece of this i want to talk about a bit that is -- the antihome will sentiment leading to violence on unhoused people. without 7 case of bear spray. man hosing transit man on the street with water. had a number of other incidents that go unreported. it is common for folks to come in the office someone started kicking them in the face when they were asleep and these things. and part of when we are trying to do with cart is build up

resilience in community to address this issue. and have the conversations with folks who are calling 911 and irrelevant try to bring brown the heat a bit. one thing successful in other models has been those you know really educating the public. letting them know when options are and working to try to figure out what is the actual issue. and then addressing that issue. is the issue garbage? is the issue sidewalk blocking? when is it and work through that and that takes skill. and we believe we can really utilize community to do just that. thank you.

i'm here to support the cart. law enforcement is in the equipped with the proper resources to address the causes of homelessness. and encampments and unintentional seizure. unhouseded haves property. [inaudible]. furthermore, criminalization limits unhoused person's access it service, housing and employment opportunity and simultaneously damaging their health, safety and well being. i urge the commission to support the program today. thank you. i'm director of criminal justice team at aclu of northern california. we support cart and the

resolution demanding the funds and implementation of cart the compassionate response team. we are here as we saw in the killing of banko brown in san francisco, and jordan in new york. armed and i have 11 response to hunger, poverty, homelessness leads to the death of our neighbors and communities members. we are here because philip dunklistenful charles hill. joshua bowling, bernard warren, lewis, donald merchant and [inaudible] and why makea hampton the names of individuals suffering homelessness who in the last decade have been maimed, abused or killed by the san francisco police department. a third of the people in county jail are unhoused people. we are here because when police other first responders to

homelessness calls, our neighbors are not treated with dignity they deservement when police are first on scene our people get brutalized or kill third degree is shameful and wasteful. homelessness is in the a problem to be solved with more police or incarceration. city spendses 18 million dollars annually on p d pndz to homelessness related quality of life calls. annual budget is less than 7 million dollars. makes no sense to have the police respond instead of fully funding cart and having qualified respondsers address home. the 11,000 members are prud to be part of the cart coalition and demand full funding and implementation. thank you all.

>> good evening. i'm going to make a quick remark. and i would like to say that some folks from the new cart program reached out to our program to say how can we work together. this is good newings >> we are a small but great program invited people in our church in the mission to sleep, rest, connect to services. and a group of folks bring folks to us where they are welcomed like family and treated with dignity and he -- seen as people who are in need of support. and not as a problem. it is important. thank you for taking this on. we are here to support you in this effort and let's do it.

>> i'm here from latino task force assessment committee. i mention day labors and domestic workers day laborers face the street last year one day laborer was burnt alive sleeping on the sidewalk on 25 and south vaness. i want to preaching to the choir in the sense we hear support. and i want to urge you to sing to the folks resisting this effective, effective project that gets results. compassion is taughted as boating heart a weakness baloney. compassion is effective, courageous and intelligent.

and solution based. and i'm going to give you a brief example that we saw last week's shooting in the mission by a very unhealthy young man with a serious mental health problems. young people you did not hear about this in the news immediately taughted a gang baloney. young people in the mission republican to the shooting site. and diagonal stop bleeding activities that probably saved people's lives. why? they know that community, they know the culture it is their community. cart does that. it engages our community that love our community. love our people and independent

exactly in that manner. kids republican to the fire. area. because of -- end of public comment. why on the motion commissioner walker. >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto >> yes. >> commissionerianys. >> yes. >> commissioner. >> yes. >> commissioner yee >> yes >> vice president cart or. >> yes >> president elias. >> yes. you have 7 yes's. >> line item 7. >> dugz dressing the sales and open airious of sale in thes

tenderloin. discussion. >> thank you. we do have a power point the high level power point and i also have with me deputy chief o'sullivan to answer questions. we will get the slide up. anybo

attention. so. we have to do something different. we, the police department. and part of what that is is -- this effort run out of a unified command. tonight i will talk about the police department piece in this and explain what the other collaborative partners are doing. collaboration will be key. as no one has all the answers, i don't care what part of the conversation you sit on. nobody has the answer to what is going on on the streets now. we are not the only city that is facing this. many other cities are facing this issue. and they have not figure today

out. we will do our best collaboratively to try to figure out how we help the people and help when is going on streets it is not just the people hor in this condition that suffer from this. it is all of us. this police department spendses a ton of resources dealing with this issue. in the a community meeting i have gone to in the communities we are talking about where that is in the the number one issue. over shootings issue robberies, everything else going that is the number one issue. out of the hundreds of people that i talked to i have where the to meet member who said when we are see nothing the streets is okay. they may have different views how to solve it but yet to meet anybody this say when is we are seeing the sales and usage in open air streets is okay. this effort is of hopeful 3 get

us to solutions and more effectiveness and how we use the resources to deal with every part about this. and i wanted say that the police department is a small part of this whatever this is being when we have now. the police department is a component of this. thesis objectives starting with page 4 our police department objectives not the over all command this is the police department. when we have done already is increase our deployment to deal with the open air drug sales now the california highway patrol and deployment the uniform component of what they have sent to help us gives more flexibility. we have taken the tenderloin officer and put them more in enforce am for narcotics sales. upon a few weeks ago we pulled 8 officer and a sergeant and they

are -- tasks to deal with the open air drug usage example when that entails is making arrests had they see people use nothing public and intoksicate friday drug in public they will rest x. as i said we will in the go out because we can't and rest everybody at one time. is this is not meants to solve addiction or the public health issues. it is meant to do our jobs. meant to do when the public expects us with this issue. i have not met a person yet who said, i want the sudden front police department to sit on hand and not address this issue. we have to do our jobs. when it miss to this.

we are object the level expertise. we lost a lot of expertise with identification of people under the influence of drugs a young patrol force the law changed air decade ago this law enforcement within by way side and lost a lot of expertise. one thing we asked the highway patrol, is to give us more training they have done that. to date. since we engaged with the per inship or they come to help us. think 53 is the number. over 50 officers fwn to the training the first part and that will be on going. am we allment over time to reduce and curtail and try to e eliminate the open air drug sales markets and the areas in the yours that are most

impacted. by basically what happens over dose. street usage and conditions that are unacceptable to many people most people in the community. this deploy am over time will help to curb that activity and make it our goal to e eliminate the open air markets that will be a challenge for all of us not just the police department and then to produce the availability of drugs. i talked about the felony nal and how much more seizures taking from the street this . is the tip of the iceberg. this is in the a san francisco thing. the seizures exploded. there is a lot of fentanyl on the streets. further objectives to work with city agencies. and community based stake

holders to disrupt the drug market and keep areas clear of drug market activity block by block. one challenge is i then and there has been talked about here and with many sitting in the audience. it is not this heard to clear a block. we go, deploy, make arrests. . when people see officers out there people that are selling drugs they move. they move to the next block or go down the corner i seen tihave been out well and wait. wait on us to leave. one of the things we want to work with our community partners and community based organizations that have had success in holding down the block once it is cloned up to do that. this is a block >>no initiative it is in the able to believe to clone up and

rid it over night. did in the help over notice it will not be if i canned over night. what we can do is consistent with our part of this and our per of this is enforce export making sure we give when we need to do to give relief to the people in the communities working in the communities that are really horrified and -- i will say traumaticized by had they are seeing. it is bad. next thing is credibility to the reduction of deaths in the way we can. we deploy fentanyl and had the number in the 80's. reversals the major are in this your. over dose deaths higher if officers and otherses only count our reversals the communal work and other departments out on the street they do the same thing. so we will continue that and make sure officers are trained

and fentanyl is there. i have 3 more slides. next. strategies really san francisco police department -- we will up our enforce am x. i know i had many debaited and conversations about this exit know not everybody agree and is respect that. and i also ask this people that don't agree come to the table with solutions that might help the situation. come to the meetings with me where people who have to live with this talk about when they have to live with. dp work on this together. tell in the be all enforce am all this not going to be all public health theme. although we know this the root causes if we get people to the assistance out there is the way to go. but getting people to that is

very, very difficult. so. we will do what we paid to do. nastarts with enforce am. let me be clear. officers are out there they come in contact with people all the time. they engage and talk to people. and we tried, lot of different things that have not land in the terms of moving this in the direction that we need it to move to. and -- what we are not been consistent on in years is the enforcement it has been awhile. and we are to go become to the basic stuff. some people do get help when they get arrested. i met them and talked to them. not the slougsz for everybody but some people it saved their lives not discount that. in the meantime we try to figure out how to get people to hymn.

we are to be responsive to the people who live and seat conscience every day and responsive. this it is a part not the total answer. a part of what we can do. health and wellness. rot causes. and everybody who was arrested is offered services by our partners at dph. everybody. . whether they take services that is a choice. we can't compel. the collaborative partnership the san francisco department of emergency management and i will not read this but they are our support in this command. they organized it set it up and i will talk about this in the next slide and also the

governor's help and national guard. strategy planners are helping the city plan. for the future. what this looks like. these are people the general level. fresh ice work on the planning. the san francisco sheriff's departmentful sheriff mentioned emergency serves unit will also in their jurisdictions than i have city and county building and responsible for the areas. including some of the clinics methadone and the clinics people go and get help. one thing we get complaints about is when somebody is at a point they are red for help when they are to step out and get slititted by drug deal and seat

activity and things they are trying to get help to over come in front of them that makes it challenging. the sheriffs committed to clean that up. and he doll that. but we want to have the safe spaces for people to get services they need and as far as the city and county buildings we need to hold grounds there, too. the da's office will prosecute cases. the sale indoor use they have their strategies how do do that. they are there to prosecute cases that fit in this category. and san francisco department of public health they are offering services to everybody this we rest. and they still have our street team and clinicians out. trying to get to people to offer help. california highway patrol. governor promised resources and

deliverod that promise to now. what that looks like now 6 highway patrol units deployed 7 days a week. the hours can be ajufrmented as needed. oning thing we know we see it in the san francisco police department is that people will get used to hours heff and used to the hours we were light x. they a just when they do. for people selling drugs we ajust our deploy am the california highway patrol role in this is traffic enforce am and general crime enforcement.

what i do know is the commitment is there for them to help us employs long as we need to help when that looks like i can't tell that you is between the governoror and mayor. and comforting it know there is a willingness to help the city and put this in a better place the other thing they are doing is they are giving us help with analysts. they have 14 analysts that are plug instead high intensity drug trafficking your i will talk about next. and those analysts mark for identification them are wing to analyze this market in san

francisco. and that is -- manage this we did not have that attention before. that is a welcomed thing. we don't have the bands width in the departmentful this work is under way. they bring ins many people of the 47 they need to do what the task of the day or week is. and they will continue working and when we are after is to identify as far as the sales part to identify beyond what is on the streets of san francisco to better identify the networks and relationships and things that will help us get to the supply chain. we made arrests but need to do more than that. the next bullet point, this is a northern california high intensity drug trafficking area. these drug trafficking areas are

designated by federal government. and they take areas that have a significant drug issue. and across the country northern california has one. southern california has one and that is composed of participating law enforcement agencies local agenciesingly. across the northern california area. so the area of responsibility for goes from monterey to humboldt. there are your this is participate and all of the some of the cities don't have what we see in the streets i described they do have issues with fentanyl, deaths and over dose a problem beyond san francisco. part inships when we are doing now and what we plan to do and i am the chair until next year for the northern california and it

it is about cordinating resources. we have a commitment from many of the members to do what they can do help. that the look like a chairing of information, a lot of investigations end up out of san francisco county. many of them. so this issue is outside the county we need that partnership. the federal agencies involved of course we work with the dea and the hidea component for sanning fran has a couple task forces this are narcotics unit plug in the sharing of information. and the know front international airport the the postal office there. a lot of synthetic drugs come in

the city through this way. that task force is there to try to curb in of this. in the just in san francisco and all over the bay area in california from that point of entry. we are involved in that as well. and that is the larger infrastructure that we are plugged into and when we sat down and talked about is just better coordination and partnerships because we are all affected by this over dose deaths pike in the california may be not as much as in san francisco but spike in the california and they the significant drug is fentanyl across the state. so next slide. our data dp metrics. i want to be clear. i know voip carter asked us left week and thifrng him for asking this.

the per of our job that is not a measure of effectiveness as far as what we are trying to do we are trying to change when we see on the streets. we are trying to work with all. partners collaborateerating and hopeful low see a reduction over time and the number of people that have access and who use this in over dose. and again. arrests are metedric of police departments performance if you measure it by that. but we have booked to date 45 rested 45 people of those -- 8 have been cited out. and the rest booked. the irony in this if you want to call it that of those 45 people that this particular force our officers arrested only 3 claim to be san francisco residents the majority of the people we

are coming in contact with as far as resting when we ask and try to determine where they live they don't live here. that is an interesting trends we will further analyze and figure out when this money and why this is happening that it is a very interesting trend. and manage this we need to pay attention to. other thing we measure is as i said every person that gets in the county jail custody is offered services by our folk in dph. so far nobody is take the service not a one. hopeful low that will change. as we do this hopeful low that will change and the last thing is we are measuring although i don't have it on the slide. we are measuring the number of people who we have begin nar can

to. and the reversal that is not here but we have that metrics. i want to go back although. it is not in the slide. i reported on drug sale arrests. that number can be mum ployed by 10 if there is in the a difference in the streets nobody will care about this number. people want to see and need to steel including us, who do this work, difference in the streets. we mode to see difference in the street and difference in behavior and i know this this is not a root cause thing i'm talking about now. because arresting people is in the getting to the root cause of the problem. i do believe that it can change behaviors on streets. we talked to people i talked to people. about why do you do this. why do you do this in this city

and it is easy and cheap. and we don't think nobody will do anything about it. that needs to change. and it is in the about trying to scare people this is what the department gets paid to do in terms of when these are happening in public and people who want to enjoy their daily life can't. so with that is correct thank you for the extra time. happy to answer questions and again this it is this is not the end all be all. get the analysis from the people that are doing the analysis. we nay learn new thing busy this we did not have before and they changed the strategies and we collective low all the people sat down and are part of this command have -- really committed to being adaptable. because i don't think there will be a one solution answer for any

of when we are talking about but we have to try to make this work. thank you for the time. happy to answer questions. >> thank you. i had a couple of questions. i noticed on the slide 4 and 5 objective and last week we talked about this a bit as well as other weeks. and you said that you know we can't arrest our way out of the situation and when we face. it sounds like that is when we are doing. . when i look at objectives it is all about you know increasing deploy am. reduced customer tail. and so my question is if you are not arresting people how are you achieving this? . il talk about objectives in these types of prescriptions

objectives need to be realistic. achievable, they need to be measurable. and these objectives are not going to solve addiction. . when i say arrests our way out of this. we are not going to solve addictions by arresting them. what we can do is hopeful leave i believe we can, change some of the culture on the streets about people blatantly using drugs anywhere than i want to any time they want in the street and -- i can't actual how many business ordinance i tucked businesses are strug lipping because customers don't want to go because of this issue. you get that my question is how. you know when people are in the throws of addiction they don't care. they that's the reality. had they are that far in their

addiction and illness, you know being rested is in the the top thing on their mind. that's my question is how are you going to achieve this? >> that's fair. i do believe my experience they do care about going to yale and losing their freedom. you name the corner and street. every day doing the same thing and nobody saying or doing anything. if we are there to enforce the law on this issue, than i are not going to do that. now, here is the difficult part. you know there is a lot of ground to cover and not enough people to cover it. if we get a block stabilized we hold the ground with people out there trying to do when they can. there is in the people on sidewalks. shotting up dp smoking or

whenever they are doing. i think the rests does change not addiction but a deterrent to do it at those locations in the open. that i believe is manage we can measure. again. we go and tell people we arrested. they don't care. they care about i can't prit my business people will not come here. this is happening every day. how are you going to get receives to arrest people because i raise third degree issue with you before, which is you know using drugs in openly using drugs is illegal and hen for a long time.

this is not a new problem. and my question to you how are you going to get receives to rest people because you know in 2019, there were 52 complaints about officers neglecting duty. now in 2023 that number has risen to 140 plus. and so -- i know that one. your solutions having receive who is want to volunteer to do the do this pilot program or whatever you want to call it. one solution but now everhow are you going to maintain this when we have an issue where the number one complaint is sfpd is in the doing their job. not writing police departments or making rests not investigating or responding and complaints doubled over the 3 year period. now you are new solution is to

have make more arrests. how are you going to accomplish this huhave not been able to the last 3 years. clear weave make arrests. but i think per of accomplishing this. you could say we discussed this but starting off with this small task force 8 officer and sergeants. having officers that understands when we are trying to do and why and they want to issue there. so there is no lack of will to go out and do that part of the work. we will make sure they are trained. and all parts of the work we don't have issues of am ralphs having and when than i need to do they have not been trind that is our responsibility. we'll support the work.

the site someplace people like or approve of what we are doing. and how. because if i'm asked to do a job the 1 thing i ask from the organization that asked me to is support me. upon stand behind me. that's the job of supervisors or staff and captain to makure we support that work you know -- p. they need help. with weather than i believe it or admit they need help the officers realize that. sometime its is irrelevant hard to do this because when they have done it in the past they get shouted, hiszd and all the stuff. when they are doing what they are supposed to do.

i will always be respectful for someone. who has a different opinion. they are asking to do something this most in the public we come in contact with welcome. and need to passport that work and encourage it and do the work the best way so they don't have a complaint. >> one thing officers said in terms of support when asked why they are not making arrests or not you know fulfilling what they are supposed to do is frustration and they have given examples than i are bang their head they arrest people. they are out the next day and not making a difference. i don't understand how you know while the inupon teblt may be good in terms of the pilot programs. how the out come will change

when it is just one piece to a multipiece puzzle. if the officers make rests, the nature of the offenses are such this they are not going to stay in yale. not have a court date because of the clogged system. then leads to officer fatigue in terms of i'm arrest and nothing happening. how are you going to change that? because you talk about providing support but how are you going to when officers feel am i'm doing the same thing every day. ground hog day and not making a difference. the other parts of the puz thel need to be addressed. because it is not you resting will not fix it. so how are you going to -- yea. and you raise very valid issues, commissioner and i part of the criminal justice system. here is had i say to that and

some of this is experiences. sometimes when you are out well i have been in this situation damey you don't feel what you do is having the affect you want. when i say with experience they have a crack epidemic n and made a lot of rests and same corner sometimes the same people over and over and same families. over time with consistency that problem got better. now the assess thing is to say t is in the working i will not do combchlg one other thing in those of us that have this experience is to share this with the female that don't have this experience. because. . .

sweeven differents things not guilty times i have been doing this work. where the problems are heard they don't turn around over night. you dot thing us need to do over time. there needs to be a strategy we can't say we will do arrests. needs to be the other things that in to play. but i can't have a situation officers are reluctant to do their job because of things outside of their control. i know it is easy to go there. i also do i seen it and i went through the situations seen they are impossible and got bfrment they were not solved we will always have drug addiction in my opinion. we are trying to change that impact and when we see on the streets in the city. i do think that i'm here because

i believability in it. i seen it happen before where that one thing we do consistent low will not be the answer but make it better with changing the behavior of what people dom on the streets. >> i get that. my question is, i'm glad you believe in it and you buy in from the officers that are volunteer to participate in this program. but when are you have going to do to get the department and culture to change so it is not the handful of officers volunteers. but what investments are you making within the department to change the narrative of the public has about all of the complaints that they are making against the department andet going receives to engage and making rests? >> one thing is to put

information out to what the facts really are. talk about complaints for a second. the past 2 years 126 or the number is 126 complaints. out of thousands of contacts. the notion that -- well is this flood of misconduct and complaints. yea, we have officers who have misconduct allegations. but -- when you get to seat picture, it it is not true in terms of the number of contracts our officers make daily and yearly and the number turn to not just sustained allegations but allegations, period. this is miniscule. it is. and you know. yes. those things have to be taken

serious low and dressd and accountability happen when it is proven. there have been stories news articles and videos and stuff where an officer here or there did not do when we expected them to do that interference is the entire department is not dog their jobs. this is not true what i can do as the chief of police and all leaders to stet the record straight. yes, we get complaintses the commission sees complaints we have 300 thousand plus contacts a year. and out of that come 120 complaints over multiple year period. we need to get fact it is out there. this is in the an organization that has mountains of complaints

notteen allegations. let's down further was ones proven true. sometimes i see the store and hes officers believe it. most in the department never been in front of the discipline system or will never see on a disciplinary issue. that's a fact. >> but what are you doing to v. and change that. that's had i want to know. what are you doing to invest in your department? >> training the things we are try to do to get the officers what they need to do the job. when i talked to officers i do often. commission talks to officers. they talk about we don't feel

supported. we don't feel people appreciate what we do. those things. is this investment official investment or training whatever. but that is investment in human capitol because we have to nurture. the 8 officers starting this off with we believe i believe will do that. than i will not be only 1s to do this work we wanted get this started off, measureed make sure you said. other parts of the system that have to work. the jails receive the people of able to dot things that we all in the collaborative expect. there is public health component to jail services. this needs to be on board. those folks those victims i think in the long run help us goat when we are trying to get tochlt as far as this police department that the 1 thing i can do is focus on the things we

do. you know we are not social workers or clinicians or addiction specialists. we are police officers the public expects to do something about the streets that is the one thing i can do steer them in that direction and focussed on things we have control over expected to do the right way. and do well. >> >> i have one more. 45 rests is this with partnership or the new program of arresting people that are under the influence or is this with the chp and national guard. why that it is chp. part of their time they already started the training it goes over days. >> those that needed the training on -- under the

influence 11550 health and safety code to understand when you are looking at when member is under the influence. they have been trained the 8 officer and trained others. this is one of the investments. but that group has arrested 45 people this is not i hear the words weeps and all this stuff this . is in the that. this is upon i guarantee you anyone of us can walk out and see somebody using. guaranteed. and when officers see it when we expect them to do is engage and men it will if the arrest happens they need to make that arrest. >> commissioner? >> thank you. thank you for agendizing the matter tonight. with the commission's permission we are represents from uc law.

san francisco. with us tonight and we indicated left week i would like to call them up to peek on this issue. >> we can do that after let's get through the questions this the commissioners have for the cho and do this after. >> okay >> thank you. i will fire away. thank you. left week chief you were asked did the department contract the da's office about the number of arrests? >> yes. they don't track information way. not by who arrested. i did i talked to the da about this. and so we were not able to get that. and again i'm told the governor's office will release it. hopeful low this week. they don't track the reporting agency they have that information but they don't were

not able they don't track in terms of they electronic when they file. they track fell niece and misdemeanors. if they have the information they are the reporting agency. they were not able to get that information to us this is not what they phoning us on. they focus on the filing and how many filed what action taken and that information is there. but. would be easy. i would think. they other reportingly agency and able to track who report today to the police department. the sheriff's department. did chp report it. they were not able to get it to me. >> um. during the week the of sheriff of san francisco indicate d that he was going to i was urn the

impression i read this he was going to add additional officers. i assume patrolling in the tenderloin or what are they doing? >> so this is his emergency services unit. and -- they will focus on the properties in and around they have jurisdiction over. >> property in and around focusing. ja civic center is a part of that. clinics i don't know all the addresses elis street. >> yes. are than i bringing a sheriff back there in used to be. >> history is working on the deploy am strategies with this is one that dph funds. so -- i think there is a clinic in stevenson. some of these spaces like the

planning have security guards inside and the sheriffs are looking at where they are going to deploy. theyville their departments out doing this work.

you indicated chp will train officers. i guess i'm a bit confused. at least i have been down to the tenderloin station many times. and the officers there seem capable they know the your. they know what is going on. there is in the enough of them. what type of train suggest the chp going to give to benefit had i think are -- very well trained officers >> upon training on urn the influence of controlled substance. 11550 health and safety code. well is a block of training just for identification recognition. under the influence. also a block of training on drug recognition expert.

it is extensive training. training that we upon don't have a lot of expertise there anymore. it is one thing and i agree tenderloin officers know the areas and you will that. >> training does help e. it helps to have that training if we are talking about dre trinning that is extensive and chp is the agency that puts on that training. >> the dealer.

and at least in my mind, the issue of the dealers whether or not they are arrested or not is not as important to me as if they feel this is not the accomplice to be. and that second issue is a police issue. it is the police 'respondent. i know the doesn't short. are there plans to increase deployment in tenderloin and south of market area? part of where the cac will help the uniformed having the officer and patrol cars out there is helpful. and that it is allowed captain

and sergio he trained up a lot of foot beat officers on in narcotics procedures for the sales, rests we make they went to training at the academy. he is able to redeplay to dpeel work with narcoticless on the issues the tenderloin officers their rests increased and working with narcotics officers and arrested increased a bit. this chp deploy am giving us flexibility to be able to do that. they are in the answering calls. they are driving around. >> it is a presence. i talked earlier the presence. presence does help. when we are out you in a minute block. you name the block the presence i can say this i seen it i gone out and walked with the officers.

dealers are every where all up and down the block. just the car driving down the block you see a different behavior. they wait to see if we will stop. you know you see it as well presence does make a difference and cac is not handling calls but engage instead traffic enforce and other things if than i see a crime they engage >> other than chp is there plans to increase deploy am in the tenderloin more officers in the tenderloin. iot 8 officers are assigned to the tenderloin and soma. soma the part where we have the most issues in this is mission any 7 and eighth and mission. those officers they are not assigned to the captainses that's where their work is tenderloin the scombon 8 there.

we do plan to expand what we are doing on the night with a similar prescription. we are trying to put this is together. when do you expect that? because my experience now is that the evening time. from like 8 o'clock on. thot when. >> we realize that. i will get become to you in the works now. i will get become to you it will happen. you know. these resources are scarce. >> it will happen there will be more. >> in the tenderloin you can quote me on that i cannot give you a date but will help soon. >> thank you. >> commissioner walker. thank you. and can thank you for this report i think it is some of the issues this the questions come

up beg your pardon you know making sure that the department personnel is support in the this. i think that -- i think that is the truth is that the public set the public pressure and pressure from you know the different political influence in thes city all over the place. especially during covid an effort to not do anything let people be a bit. i think we are seeing that's not the solution. and it it is not just arresting people and putting people in jail. i think that at this point, what seems to be happening is this we are just trying to displace people up the street and there looks to be efforts to coordinate within all the different local entities from

department of health to the department of emergency management who is doing the they are all you are all talking together. and i would assume it is also including folks from the private sector the nonprofit sector or business sector. they all a part of this. and part of that you have been i think that we have been talking about, too is, you know arresting now is the only enforce am tool. there is no ability to go and disrupt somebody from the health department. no e 85 lent this would encourage people more to looking at other treatment. and so -- that's part whf we have been talking about, too about alternatives to booking. you know is this we have to as

you are discussing this hopefully a discussion about alternatives of bringing people to a different place to make it a more welcome conversation about get nothing program. so -- hopefully that is being talked about we are in the beginning of everything but -- you know when i look at especially the regional partners the like the solutions to addiction, specifically have to be regional. the need is so great the city can't cover it all. we need have regional solutions for residential treatment programs, et cetera this are actually invite to people to go to. and i know this thereupon stipulate a differing opinions about people in services is irrelevant the way to g. i wish there was a different discussion

about that. but it it is i foal like right now we are in this place where the police other only ones out there who are able to do the extreme sort of -- and it it is extreme. you know it it is sort of a -- the only thing we have arresting people at this point that is the challenge is because this does not get helped by arresting. drug sales, yes. but drug use does not. and yet it the truth is the public does not want it happenoth streets the conversation about having safe injection sites and harm reduction model is role that is -- that is part of what needs to happen here. and having the ability to get people in the placeseen if than

i don't want to go it is like if there is no other alternative, and arresting people some the only thing, that is in the going on solve problems. it is not really the police problem. and the solution is somewhere else. and so hopeful low this conversation is helping identify this. because we do need to do something. i look out here and i than all of us lost friends in this issue. we can't not do anything we have to do something differentful and i just want to say to that i rescue noise that it is frustrating for police officers because most police officers i talk to don't want to do it, either. it is a situation where we all mode to come together and talk about what the alternative is and needs to be one. hopefully this conversation is going do leads there.

am thank you. director henderson. >> thank you. >> thank you chief for the presentation i was going to point out 2 points, one, the big thing on from the obyektive from page 4 and 5 which is clear and terms what they are. my encouragement would be to if there is already contemmrigz that would be great. but -- to measure and electronic what they are. and part of the conversation to listening to the other conversations that were taking place. with the shifts of measurement to take place by a third party from the governoree office or agencies working with you rather than waiting for those summations focusing or making sure before the initiative was begin or now if they have. measure internal low from the department's perspective you talk about the objectives an

increase in sustained both deploy am and expertise. for doing the work. to measure what that increase is. upon here is when it was and increased to and you can track independently where either where the money spent or how you deplaying resources. and the same thing with i forgot. in work collaborative low with the city agencies and with community based organizations. i don't know how -- there has to be a measure am i don't know what is it it is in hours that are partnered increase with the collaborate rigz with city agencies. and or with the community based organizations is just. i think you will do better because you are already going to do it to measure it internal low it talk about what you have

done. because if you can't measure and electronic it you can't you will not be able to appreciate the public will not appreciate what is being done if we wait for a third party to tell us mou xhou when we will do. i was and really excited and i'm talking about standards for looking at work from audit lens. that's what i'm talking about. with the matrix. but in terms of i was -- encouraged to see a data and matrix section on page 9. the only thing i would say is that nose matrix measured are all the external on the folks that are being arrested. in terms of what is measured here. i would say the balance it out

to justify a lot of the both expenses and work and effort put forward by police department. to do the internal measurements. and -- to ask that when will the outside ward facing matrix start. they are here you will measure rest and all of those other things. you can electronic without calling the sheriff and asking oral without calling the da. >> thank you. and recommendation we do and are tracking all of the things we are doing. collaborative as a whole. will be doing that's whatuneified commands does when it it is runt way it is supposed

to run and meets objectives should be measurable for the most part. reducing the level of and this time behavior on the streets that is more i money we get it from the community in terms when they see we see what we see as well. you know if you dive up 7th street whether or not weather it it is there. that is necessary low something that will be a count but manage we can -- eye test. >> i think if you are able to were like if you are able to show this the amount of drugs collected. >> absolutely >> these other number of increased roches that are on the patrol. the increase that we have seen from arrests from last year this time. on this. you know. it it is squishy but if the

measurements are coming internal low from your the department. we are tracking. we track the amount of what we seize. and so those things are electronicable and measurable

and that will be a part of the matrix we will report out. do they get reported to the third party agencies the partners. >> yes. and like the national guard analyst are pulling information up from all of the yours we are talking b. and they will do when they dom analyze and might learn manage new. this it is a perfect answer i thought that's what you were talking about using them and leveraging the w they have in the agencies i would ask if dpa get copies when is externally reported because we also have analysts and audits that work

very diligently with data. external data that is presented outside agencies i would ask if they get copies of those measure ams of the data as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. thank you director henderson you took my questions i agree. we need our own data and request that be reported here quarter low or monthly want to gauge impact. something long the lines of definition of insanity doing the same thing over and expecting different rus. right. this document this someone said i will quote it continual invol tear displacement contribute

15.6 and 24.4% of additional deaths among unshelter order people injest drugs over 10 year period. that analysis took account data from san francisco. and a lot of what i hear and when is being presented is something we have done before. we have a harm reduction policy and this department is dhoo i thinks that under min that approach. i like to know how is it that these agreements when you say we are working collaborative low. how are we going do measure that imfact? are there after the conversations mou's with slots set, side for treatment for if and when an officer encounters

machine using. to go in this space? we try third degree and will continue top try that. stwen 18 we set out the intervention plan. and the that time when we instructed receives to do folks using under the influence. it took the ones that wanted to go get them to service. we had to clock set up. dph and clinicians involved and got under mined. here are what folks who didn't want us doing this telling people on the street.

don't trust them that i will tick to you yale. don't talk to them. this statute krezness we deal with. and we try to do that. so, am if people want to get help you know some of officers on the streets and this is documented they have been able to get people to help. but when we don't get the support i talk about support. when we try do those thing and yea people saying you should not be involved and under motorbike the work by -- they say they are lying and telling people we are doing the opposite when we are trying to do. we did not arrest anybody the people we came in contact detain exclude to being them to cart. mark for identification those folks engaged with offered some didn't. this thing got sands bagged.

so for your definition of insanity, commissioner honestly we tried to do that. we couldn't get divert people engage with help us come up with solutions got under mined. when we make an effort to attach a new strategy and have a pilot for a year and discard that. we are novelty really creating the capacity. to serve those individuals. and for this to take have the impact it changes public perception. the department had a rep with elements of the community. this sentiment has always been there. i don't believe this has been tried. i emdon't in my experience in 25 plus years in san francisco we never scaled out this much to have the proper treatment on

demands for the individuals. and so. i -- respectfully disagree with you. >> and i will go further. i believe in lead model. the city and counsely got sick million grant. to pilot the lead program. we did that. this department had the most reterferals. bart was involved. the funding went to 2018 and we did not ask for a time. the public deferndz got money. we didn't ask for a dime and i believe until and thbl is a strategy that is fitting if it gets on the map gives alternatives the way we design

those not familiar. it is instead of book the person the person is if they agree, gets introduceed service and create a program around that and they are off and running with the services we are talking b. men that is in the future. i don't know i can't say or commit to it. we were committed to that and still are. so, i lived throughout 2018 it was frustrating. when that fell apart and per of the reason it fell apart the reasons i say because that is what happened. this is not the end all. i will repeat that. but i don't want to lose in this conversation what we are getting from the people who have to live with this daily. who want something done while we

figure this out with the other things we are talking about. we can't turn a blind eye and let this behavior go on. and yes, i mean to in it controversial. you know. not trying to harm people. we despite when some believe. and -- i understand the intention is in the that but the data the evidence that demonstrates that is the impacts and i'm highlighting that i want to move on to other areas we are constructing something. trying something different so we don't continue to deal with this issue. when we are talking about engaging people under the influence or used highly intoxicated is there a prosecute file for what officers are being trained around? is it indicators of dangtory

sell. in type ofs agreesive behavior am how are opposites tell the difference with machine high or actively dangerous. our officers check on people. i have done it moiz. a couple times we and the

officers i'm with deploy nearcan. so that is the most obvious symptom. what we are not doing is like watching the guy walk down the street and see if they are under the influence it is obvious buzz they use in public. this is the first thing we are asking officers to try to deter. to try to engage with. if you see somebody using. the other will when we see member passed out or asleep. it is easy to spot when you see it. we have all those of us look at this and pay attention we seen it. on the walk and slumped over and under the influence. but engage. you should engage to check and make sure the person is ago. the other thing is that is the

unsafe and behavior people complain b. those other most obvious. enough of that to keep us business. so we are not trying to -- contact random people to see if they are urn the influence. i want to be clear. there is too much of the other stuff that thar is out there that really driving people to be angry and complain about temperature let's take care of that first. those are the types of engagement we want to intervene of thank you for that. 2 more questions. one is -- you know possession charges for under documented people lead to additional consequence outside of just this arrest. are we taking this into account when we charge or arresting

people? >> the policy there commissioner follow we don't care about any of that. what we care about is when we see on the streets. engagement over that rest can get hopefully that number.

one thingil say. i didn't mention the agencies our agents this are a part of this collaborative. homeless and hs, are per of this collaborative. we have a home ward bound program for years. foam this have a support network, this is not new. the people might be willing to go to the support and work if we engage in conversation i hope some might be willing. buzz mark for identification them don't have the support here. they don't have families here. they are -- those types of

things we hope to tap into to make it is situation bfrment i can't tell you without analytics why we see what we zoo with most of the people that got either side of bok or not at san francisco resident that's when it it is now and that it is pretty significant in terms of when -- we can do with that. and i don't know housed or unhoused when it touches their whatever the housing situation is. the human services agency is there a part of collaborative and homelessness and spicht housing is there if this is the case they are there to have that net to see what we can do. you know you mentioned our department officers are not social workers than i are novelty this is an opportunity to create the mou's and reps with the people that dot work of treatment. right. i hope this we walk out of this

process with new agreements. with hard you know, slots for treatment if possible. and you know your level you have a lot of influence over the investments the city makes and i encourage to you continue to promote the fact that policing is not the solution to drug abuse. one question. have you you know the lead program was the first time i met you the huge difference this people don't realize with lead when the officer was on the street, before the rest was made a clinician come out that wrir immediately. and the person is given the choice at that mobile home. do you want to go to yes, i will or hook up with the clinician and seek services that was the key factor which made the lead

program successful. have you advocating for a program like lead which when we did the program for a few years and received 5 million dollars grant it was successful and the numbers were promise and for the tenderloin and mission district yielded great results >> yea. people that know me and had the conversations with absolutely. i believe this it it is a strategy that is -- has value to the work we are talking about. it is not -- it is not the upon end all be all. then we had the same issue on the streets. but it it is a strategy for those that --ment to seek service. or agree you don't have to go to this, you know arresting and hopefully those lead to better paths to recovery for those folks willing to do temperature i don't know where i will go. i believed in it. i think it it is a strategy that

it is a good alternative to jail and incarceration. i don't know how that you know is happening. i do believe that when constructed and done right, we have to have accountable. if people just -- as you pointed out. people who are addicted they are addict exclude you know it is is in the like people are just going to say i will not do this tomorrow and stop doing it and other places they do it at. without a type of incentive to not. and right now when we are talking about for arrest piece i want to go become to what i said earlier is trying to change the behavior on the street.

i understands that the -- ways to get to that through the things you said and any members of the public say constantly. you in we are dealing with what can the receives do to change what is helping on the streets that irrelevant, really done hrm to our city and communities where this is happening. i agree. and -- talk to many people including about my belief in the lead program ownership i'm using acronyms. lead is law enforcement assisted diversion. great strategy. >> thank you. thank you for the presentation. first just last week you confirmed that in the pilot program 8 officers one sergeants in pilot stage. i number of announcements is

this still the case or has it extended or what is the status. >> 1 and 8. >> and basically our narcotics unit the work in the same area where we get the most complaints and other things don't happen with narcotics in the city it is in the like in this area. it is one and 8. >> great. thank you. >> i don't know fiheard a direct answer to director henderson's question about data and real time. will we have a dash board or in type of space on a website where members of public can see in real time the metrics are of this pilot? yoot spln to be transparent with this information. there is no dash board up and running now.

i come to this commission public low when we are doing. butt spln to be transparent. we will always be transparent with our data the commission over cease the police department i'm bringing you police department data i think there are other areas that the public should and will be interested in. so, i know in talking to the per of this unified command we plan to be transparent i can't say what that will look like. who will report of the group. they are happen and we are planners in accomplice who i we do when we can do impact what is helping on streets. >> understood. manage this director henderson got out out come for folks arrested. will we track the people got rested. went in treatment. are there going to be specific

tracking in that of that metric? >> i know what we will set because hope suspect had -- we are not seeing the same people over and over again. i tell you what the police department is saying is that00 oaf we will track those people that if we come in contact with them again we will electronic that. i don't know all this is some is in the work and some of it although discuss the i can't disclose. we want to be unify exclude the information we put out so there is no confusion. a lot of those 90s are happening now. but i can say for us we will track arrest and electronic how many we rearrested. and -- that's when i can guarantee now. i don't know all the other stuff. why one other detail, reported a

couple weeks ago that the pilot would cost 5 million dollars. i wanted ask, is that accurate in what is it paying for and where it st it coming from. i don't know where it it is coming from. we can put a number on what the deploy am costs and over time with that. but i don't know where that number came upon from which every city department is committing resources the national guard and not costing us anything. i think as far as saul rows that is easily calculatable. i don't know where this number came from. i don't if you give me i can back electronic. why one thank you that come up tonight is cho condition vague

the exacoration of people who lives in a lot of drug use and dealing the public is demanding something be done. there will is consensus something needs to be done and folk this is live and work there are i didn't have justified in the way they feel. we have to do something evidenced based i'm not a public health expert. i will not climb to be tonight. the folks who are advocating for this strategy as far as i have seen have not produced any evidence showing that arresting -- drug users issues positive out come. the folks opposed cited just a litany of high quality studies showing the harm that this strategy has wrought implement in the cities across the country. and so -- i understand the

exasperation how can that justify engage nothing what looks to be a misadventure something prouven not to work over the years, how can we justify that. >> i'm not trying to justify what studies have shown. i understands evidence base. i want to be clear upon you know academic stsd are this they give sxefdz hopeful leave we take that evidence and change the situations for the betters. however, what is often missing in the studies is what is happening -- it is how communities are harms in the community the studies are talking about.

we try figure out the answer is. a bit of this and that. what is wrong with enforce the law in ways that at lest we can address a mall part of what the public is exacerbated about. >> i will give you one you in. i will say this i say a better solution we have police officers that daily, get called or asked or demanded to like last night. he was -- so upset her hands were shaking and tierce. i can't get in my house my apartment building. because i'm stepping over people passed out from use.

i got drug dealers in the midst of this. i need your help i need the department's help. now those studies probably will address all the public health studies. the addiction piece of this. but they don't talk about the now piece. what needs to be done now so the lady with get this her house to me that's where the san francisco police department come in this is manage we can at least do. is make sure that people are novelty stepping over people on the walks. don't have to see people passed out withying needles in arms or pipeos the side of their legs. this is policing. i respect studies i read them and with we are working within all of that you are saying. . those studies have not seen one

that says. this evidence is figure to solve the led this can't get in her house. got 15 people on the sidewalk using drugs. policing doll that. it will not soft reason they are using then get people off the walk and curb this behavior if we are consistent with enforce am. the hrm to the community the subject of the stsd and they do account for the criminal justice aspect. you asked for a potential solution and i think that so -- preparation i looked at the sf

street level drug dealing task force report in june of 2021. san francisco police department was a member of that task force as was the da and the public defender office and verse community members who were expert in this your. they issued i long report. with many footnotes filled with studies we are talking about now. had 6 main suggestions in you know none of them includes resting drug users. and all of them all of the points take pains to dliniate with deal exerts users. no opening or linkage center. a meeting all agencies and service providers in d seck. more services. things of that nature. you know a beep revouft evidence and consultation with experts no one in the room proposed more

arrests of drug dealers. did not make it in the report. we did. >> okay. so -- a majority of the committee member dids not and 91 of the evidence cited in the report the study supporting when we are doing the folks support thanksgiving asked men time and never have an answer. so we do but we do the city has produced a thoughtful report on what to do to solve this. seems like we have good answer. why are we not doing that? >> so those suggestions i remember this very well andiel we did at that time and still say well is an accomplice for law enforcement. violent overstone when we have to stop doing is omitting law enforcement from the. >> i'm not omitting you did

not write the report. . left out of the equation. like it does not xichlt people don't complain or don't want anything doneful i want to say clear those things are strategies i don't disagree with but don't leave the policing element out of the equation because when people call 911 or the nonemergency number 91 of them are getting the calls. change that. we get them. >> and when we don't do when people ask of ussast least basics i got somebody ugsz drug in front of my house and nobody is doing anything about temperature you know. i think that it is time that we

work together and stop with this zero sum is my way or your way i'm not saying those are novelty viable strategies and should not be done i'm say zeeing a 3 is enforcement let us do this. do at this time right way with compassion we are always trying to get people to services. if when you are saying the police has no part. >> chief. that's not when i said. you miss said out this was in the my q. i will one last question. les controversial. a nobody's question 45 rests zero people from san francisco in 3. this we can validate. one thing this stuck out about this and i don't know the d. homelessness issued a report and found 71% of homeless people

were lived in san francisco before homeless 24% prosecute another california county. there is in the a perfect over lap people home and wills using drugs. curious if you have thoughts on that how to reconcile the 2 numbers. could this be a very low percentage of san francisco residents. >> it does and hopeful low as we dig nothing this and figure out y. i can't answer that question. i really -- it is perplexing. i don't know. but as we dig into this and we do this more and talk to more excuse me have data to understand. i can get anecdotal answers i talk to people the people i met that are out there using. and ask them why they chose to do it here.

i gotten answers like drugers cheap and, available and you got an environment where it is permitted. that is -- that's. yea. these are xr you know individuals who that is when they said i can't say that is the reason. i don't know. . hopefully we will figure this piece out. >> thank you, chief. >> one question commissioner benedicto the department has a dash board and publish rest and have that data you said you are dealt indicated to being transparent put the data on the department's dash board that has the information does not seem like a heavy lift. one thing we want to do is measure the things the command is doing. right. or and like william this one and 8 there are assigned to the work

the dash board the department has is over all numbers and you know may be there is an easy way to get at that it is add this piece to at this time other thing we are working in theuneified command configuration. all the dhapts have communications, directors. prosecute coming up with the communication plan jointly and collaborative low. so we as a part of this collaborative this command that's when we can report on our data our dash board does not drill down individual units. i don't know may be we cannee what we can do. >> i think the department should put that up. even with a collaborative approach or other people. i think we owe it to the people of the community to show what you are doing. >> yea i will definitely will look and i will say if i add this one thing.

it it is important to minimize confusion and conflicting information that information reported is consistent across whoever. sheriff give information. the way we plan to do this is that information goes to the join information center and then as far as the prescription is that tha is put out. everyone on the same page and vet and you had don't have information that may be conflicting that is the plan and i want to work within this structure. >> that makes sense. whether reported on your dash board or sent to the collaboration the number of rests pd does is the same. i thank you information should be on the dash board that's what we create today for. >> or may be a link so it is one source of information i will look. >> commissioner benedicto.

>> thank you. thank you chief. . i will try not to rehash ground covered. a couple comments first and questions. something i said left week remains true. is this is wron of many conversation this is we as san franciscans willville on the topic. and the conversation should include more then and there when we hear from pd. last week the summer extend know invitation to the highway patrol. and representatives from the initial guard. and as well, i have asked president to roach oust considered a joint meeting with sheriff's oversight board. and to the invite

representatives from the da. commissionered the da office processes all of the arrests and men they make sense to be a clearing house of data they have all the data asking about. worth putting out the times we have the cart coalition and cart here and unanimously passed a resolution asks about evidenced based resolutions. the 2 years of evidence and reports of other jurisdictions tried public prochs like cart speaks for itself. i think it is worth noting that the solution [inaudible] the evening. am i note that a productive meeting the treatment on demand coalition. i think they don't get alost mead why coverage about the law enforcement resources that everyone admits have to play a

role but not as much interests in when needs to be a surge of resources to treatment. public health exit think later this summer the commission agenda presentations i will say coalition and treatment on [inaudible]. tuck to commissioner walk upper we want represents from heart, i think we need to get all the stake holders to get a unified approach here. i want to acknowledge how person typeset it is to have data and metrics for the success of this programful meeting with service providers they are required to provide data. [speaking fast] this did thea solutions discussions of hrm reduction.

we well is no silver bullet. we know 300 over doses reversed in the tenderloin navigation center. things closed any sdpugz includes a discussion of hrm reduction. couple of questions, chief. left time we met on theuneified command centers was not opened yet. it is opened now? >> it is. yes. why on monday. >> yes. >> do you know how long it it is scheduled say open? >>um i don't believe how long this is that date is not determined. here is unified command is together the collaboration i talked about the other thing is mote objectives you laid out the police department's objectives.

in the all are jermaine to the police department. i will say the way the commands w is you are there were until you achieve objectives if you don't it transificationed to something smaller affordability or something that allows you to continue the work. but you may not need all of the per ins for an extended period of time of all the objectives laid out witness they are put together. that's what the mr. president suggest. deal with now and deal with longer terms. so long answer is great question i don't have an answer how long i know until -- we are told otherwise we will be a part of this. >> who makes the information how much that stays open?

>> this is whole collaborate rigz and this it is a fresh from the major's office. and the goner and the resources that the governor committed. he gets to make that decision and when i have an answer to that. when i know is that i have been told that they are committed to helping us make a difference and making a difference means changing when we see on streets i have not talked about over doses that don't result in death that is sky high as well. not just the deaths the deaths are weirs case there are other over doses that people have been saved. >> okay. >> and terms of which agency are part of the command center sfpd. d. emergency management. >> yes. >> is there machine from the homelessness and supportive

housing >> yes. >> human service >> yes >> sheriff's office >> yes >> chp. >> not they are part of the work but not in unified command. department of public health. >> yes. >> and other agencies a part of the center. why fire. >> san francisco fire department. any others? i think you touched them all. >> i think you have touched them all. >> this might be a big question is it the da's office they don't stay inuneified command. but they are in the conversation with the. criminal law enforcement piece of this. >> actual talking about space a physical space? an organizational concept? physical space. we are working in a collaborative configuration like there is -- now that we are

doing a lot of miles an hour things virtual. this is physically people going throughout command structure and meetings if you do at this time way it is designed happen. this are happening daily. and the operations are in the sale. the demand and the print and all those things lodge i didn't have cal per in the room. . why the ltd. program and department staff i know having gone to the c it awards the teams are mixtures of folks from dph and pd is there discussion involving the teams the 81s include clinicians in this work? we never per seed with clinicians when we did with lead the clinicians would responded. so -- i think south and glide.

responds. so for people that said, yes than i responds and would do what they did and officers write a report and this report held while the other things happened. fwrit to have clinicians out there i know they got staffing issues.

we have not had those issues so far

>> last time we met on wednesday the 7th the next morning is when the sheriff's appointment was announced i think was a prize to many of us. one thick is there have been a moving part big announcements on short notice we learn in the media. any significant new [inaudible] you are aware of other than -- i'm sorry. television. [inaudible]. >> irrelevant now that we are together my point to commissioner elias, my point is any unified in the announcement and when is put out. i believe that is will happen now that we are together. you know stood up on monday. our communications folks are in that middle east nothing this room that was part of it.

all communications including the award director. communications. >> i don't know. part of what if it works the method will be concise and tight. i think that now we are together with this. the messaging will be concise and will be unified. that's why we're doing temperature should not expect a surprise. not from the command and agency in this. i don't think and like with the governor's office and when he announced about, about, the states involvement in this. i don't know about that or nor do we oftentimes get a warning

or head's up. i don't know about that. we keep them awear what what is going on the resources they have given us. the national guard now is helping with the planning so they have been at the meeting and thes national guard meet every monday. they are not a part of the actual structured operational structure. the analysts do work apartment of the law enforcement branch the command messaging come from us. as far as what the governor's office i don't know. when they put out and when. hopeful low we get a head's up or get notice. i can't guarantee. >> question about treatment you condition firmed no one rested accepted treatment.

our treatment beds are at capacity if someone accepted could we offer a bed and that doesn't exist. there are not [inaudible] this is the question often. as far as this is when they are not at capacity there is space. the beds are there. and space if they all accepted treatment. don't know. you know that would be -- i good step in the right direction if they all accepted as far as now the people we arrested no acceptance of treatment. hopeful low that will change. we cannot compel people to treatment. harm reduction you meet people where they are but can't compel them. gotta try to figure out ways to do that. i don't have the answers and nor do the health people that --

written the studies. we are trying to figure this out >> the last thing is -- you know i know there are objectives when we talked about and methoded we talked about the high level what do you is the bandwidth metric of success. what does it electric like. i think the way we see that affectless the policies we go work backwards. well are 2 areas. make the over dose situation better. not talking about death over dose all together. and00 although i will keep it basic the the second thing is, seeing a difference of the conscience on the streets when it miss to this issue. open aired drug sales and drug

usage. and again, when i where president elias asked what gives me hope is i have seen the situations turn around. every time i seen it happened over time. with the sustained cord nayed effort. success would you can seeing a difference on the streets and the open air drug markets not open. not seeing the usage we see on the street. not seeing the dealers on the streets and everything this goes with that. needle and pipes. people passed out on the sidewalk. this is the visible measure. success. metrics would be we are trying to help people not be in situations they are over doze and dying. that is the goal here. and that's why i say not just a

police issue police is small part of the that. but i think policing is a part of changing behavior on streets. thank you, chief. >> thank you. thank you very much. vice president carter. i had a couple questions. you guys asking. coming up on the same thing. on the program to disrupt the open air drug dealing and tenderloin. how many officers are deplayod this program. we have the operation at a sergeants and 8 officers. you have to have theuneified command staffment a commander

assigned. now has a lieutenant assists with the operations. we will need to build additional staff and for administration and things like that to help the commander. part of of this now the work now is we have to disrupt. we have to sdwlaupt is happening on the street. we have people assigned. now full time in that command. otherwise it does not work you have to have dedicated people, consistent people in that unified command. in addition a commander,llow lute and others to assist to fill the command positions. >> what about the officers the total manhours or officers

including command staff assigned to the program. calling them the task force officers that are doing the work. the arrests on the use and under influence is 8 officer bunkham a sergeants. work 40 hours a week. they work over time. 4 days a week. we'll supplement that that's why we train more than 8 officers we want to have coverage. when and if and it will be expanded we want 7 day a week coverage. people figure out when we work and wait on us to not be at

work. 8 officers to start. and double this and be 16 on a rotational basis. and including commanders and such. okay. you mention the number of arrests 45 through the program. >> using in public. and not including part of this the over all operation we are arresting people that are selling. as limp those numbers xoed that. the officers deployed a couple weeks. we electronic rests you have to address both sides of a drug market. >> demand and supply side. chief the 45 is rests including

drug dealers? >> no that is users the drug dealers it is higher over that period of time. i stated earlier in my report talking about dgo6.14 where trying to decriminalize people them have problems. and i guess when officers do come to that, they do recommendation to refer them to the d. public healing and also see if they get them over is there so then you know put them to where they need to service like the commissioner that said if we can prior to president [inaudible] when they -- do come to that arrest point where they are offered alternative you go

to get treatment and to get the service order or go to be arrested. i guess -- is that talked about in your programs you may have with the officers may be? the officers can do this if than i have that structure. you know when the program is. it is the -- prearrest diversion. so you get diversion before you get rested. and in theatery for this to work has to be this thing if i don't participate or don't engage i ksdz get arrested. that statute way it is designed. and if that rest part is not

existent, lead is really does not work. because -- people don't do it >> that don't do it. can officers they service available. yes. but lead was designd that way. there does need to be in people's minds go to jail. that's the way the program was designed. >> i was thinking also make

before the drug use happened when officers are doing walking the tenderloin area or whatever the district that has the drug deals out there. it is called -- through preempive you seat person is having a problem the contact may be and responsive policing the cart or the hart program you call them out. where they meet with the person that is having the issues. so -- brought in and treated where the police doesn't -- arresting ourselves out of it. >> yea. so. the law does allow for us to

transpoverty 2 a medical facility. or call. >> of course. we can call. however, you have to have the person has to be willing. we can take a person and we can -- that is what -- the penal code allows for they have to be willing to do the services to take advantage or start the conversation. because even when i described with cart in 2018, sometimes once the officers get the stfrt release when they left that person walked out of the door and back on the street that is not what the i dee situation is. you know i will say this commissioner they are good questions nothing is off the table i want to continue to emphasize. this it is new. nothing is off the table but

while we figure this out. we will make less for open air usage and under the influence if this is where we need to go. nothing is off the table in terms when this might be ultimately. i hope that in this with all it is brain power put in this we have some solutions that are balance exclude include where the criminal justice system fits in come not exclude police and the role we play. that is being form litted in the meantime the demand is we doing something about what is happening on the streets. thank you very much, i want to close in saying that in 2021, or 2022, i talk about the safe

injection center. new york has 2 in 2021. the board can passport this extinguish get funnings for this. that's my closing remark >> thank you. >> i know you have bruthis issue up. we are nipping this in the bid think the chief rather then and there making he is had agreed to identify the agencies. this he would be sending reports to. if there are whenever those were.

there are multieye award winning >> >> yea. there we go. >> i'm the same we bring it up the chooefr answered those questions in a base and then if what might be after we receive the base if the commission has other requests about data beyond what was talked about tonights to pesifiy what is going to be or being be the department with responded we want more transparency without specifics. whether it can be measured what the department is willing to do with the project is. >> great idea.

>> thank you. commissioner benedicto's question 2 city entities i forgot to mention. the controller's office and city administrator were a part of this conversation. >> i like how you bait and switchd and did not take him up on his officer. >> he triggered the controller's office that's when they do. >> i like that move. chief. >> members who would like to comment on item 7 approach. have yosh people come up. >> i think [inaudible]. if i can go first i appreciate it. >> good evening, commissioners i'm laura representing the initial harm reduction coalition [inaudible]. 30 years with people who use

drugs. i love drug users. today we issue with the drug policy alliance. and very strong condemning opposing san francisco [inaudible] people using drugs [inaudible] and demand the full stop of the separation. i have to say to chief and the commissioner we did in the train this for 50 years and failed to address over doses when we chose [inaudible] over public health people suffer. the commissioners talk about this not just of the harmful affect unless general of keeping incarcerated black and brown poke and the fact that people die when they go to jail and prison. i want top say shameful san francisco politicians escalating the worry on drugs when we are drowning on over doses. 60% increase in deaths.

we do know that this it is a lot [inaudible] and then and there is the city that has the most incredible expertise on drug policy and harm lowduction, addiction and so many not there invited and really leading our over dose prevention efforts. i want to say. there are other organizations that will join us today this is the time to for the commission to issue a strong resolution. we not going to stop we don't want our community top keep dying. thank you very much. >> good evening. member of the public i'm star child. weave agree with the previous speaker. we don't want to see arrests of

people. don't want people pros cuted for noni have 11 victimless crimes. should not be crimes the war of drugs is unconstitutional. from 1919 to 1933 alcohol was presented they pass said an amendment tom do that. never similar amendment out lawing marijuana, cocaine, fentanyl or other so called controlled substance. for all the federal laws at least the substance [inaudible]. that means cooperation with the dea or federal agency to engage in this is unconstitutional illegal. so the law enforcement in many cases that are break the law here. that is something this does not get said and people remember this. if people don't like a lot of public does not like seeing open

air drug dealing and sales use. it is because decades of antidevelopment and housing policies in the city created a massive housing shortage people don't have places to do drugs inside they do them on the street. no mystery. and somebody mentioned earlier that people in government housing are not allows to do substance inside they do them on the street. no mystery. stop criminalizing people for health issue and when is the government control issue. not letting people use their property to develop housing. we mode to get rid of zoning laws. them is outside of your purview.

thank you. i'm low branson. we are the organization that wills has been on theef safer inside group since 2010. advocating opening of consumption sites. the reason the name changed has to do with how drugs are now consumed. right. and including people who use smoking. fence nal changed the game. the idea we are going to arrest our way outer is not successful. this it is making uncomfortable for people to use drugs and driving them in alleys and yours where they cannot be seen where people die. the reason that people in of are more like low it die out of an

arrest or treatment facility they hide. making sure we address this problem will require collaboration with the police chief. i agree. 100%. we are working in cross purposes if opening safe consumption site and the police to collaborate to bring people to us to have them use on site safely. we know they will not die on our site. and we connect them to service. with care and commitment. and the police are arresting people. it make its more difficult for them to bring them to our services because of the distrust. reverse course work together to do this in a holistic way. caring for person whop has a self care issue. thank you.

>> hello. i'm sheba a residents of d6 and member of the treatment on demand. i'm here to urge you all to oppose and stands with our communities against the forced treatment evidence. weave have data stated this evening. that showed law enforcement approach has been try exclude failed. in reducing people who are using drugs. the number of people faith over dose death and using because they have untreated mental health. or using because that's the way they sustained their own quality of life. arrests and incarceration destabilize people. this is not about number this is it is street conscience row moving people using drugs public low underminus the generational

harms experienced by our black and brown communities. commune members get caught up in policy affect those awaiting in jail for team. 37% of san francisco unhoused population is black. of the small 6% 30% experienced drug over doses in the last 4 months of the year and 18% of the community.

>> good evening. commissioners. or tomorrow, yet. i'm not sure. >> i'm sarah hor and talking from the treatment on demand coalition. i wanted bring your attention to a joint statement we put out. i hard copies i will leave. before reading sections of it i want today say you know earlier the chief asked the question about or sorry stated the plan

to deter drug use in the open and asked question about when is our alternative. when can we do if we don't do this law enforcement approach? safe consumption cites it is in the a hard answer. weave have something at our finger tips get to this same goal. and that's where we should go first. that's said i want to say that we are 80 organizations that signed on to the statement. that are service providers and treatment providers. commune organizations and advocacy groups. churches the aclu. democratic club. wide groups x. than i are on here. will i will read you excerpts. research shoes rests incarceration will not result in

reduce deaths. but current law enforcement strategy a replication of failure. initiative involving arresting people for public drug use, will not particular over dose rather will next over dose deaths in san francisco. this is what the evidence shows. we have a citation to some of this evidence. this commissioner [inaudible]. >> thank you >> they will post it. >> all right. good evening am everybody. i'm department brian cox. i want to comment on the report. i think it blames the deaths on

open air drug dealing. you know -- blames the deaths from drug use on open airlift drug dealing that is misleading. i think what is missing from the discussion about deaths is the failure of victim in communities in the people suffering. we need a [inaudible] talked about an victim in solving the problem. missing is the hrm to the community caused in the form of force and misand you can indignity of going throughout legal system this bring pleas in the process will cause. some offer rerun from the worry on drugs dress said up. more rests more police more incarceration.

arresting people is regrifsz we know this. unfortunately we know the upon end of the reruvenl people roller and communities devastated. .

jury room i want to first say i agree with what has been said with respect to the need for service. i also implore you to address the violence that is occurring in the tenderloin. the person responsible for safety of our campus community typeset it is absolutely inappropriate wham is happening within our community. which is economically impostracials. i want to raise the fact that as we talk about open air drug market this is is something not a safety issue this is actually a safety issue i have witnessed and been pritow multiple dense of violence including a shooting 50 feet in fronts of mow in broad daylight this happens to the community. not a member of the community in the 5 years i have been there

anybodying on wood, has been injury happened result of open air drug market. when my phone rings about an incident it is my fear and i send prayers it it is not a member of our community. i completely agree we need to do something with respect to services but the violence. as an example 3 weeks ago there were 3 shootings within 3 days. i reached out to captain chen and chief scott. than i reached out immediately they have been going through every hour to disrupt what is happening in the open air drug market at golden gate and hyde. we need to do more. i'm implore you have to not only listen to the recommendations that chief scott is giving as well as what folks share today and members of the community coming who are living and work and having to dweel this daily.

>> good evening i was not planning on speaking but echo the last speaker and get become to the police commission. which is policing. i wish heard tonight more support for the active policing as i did for issues and activities that are not really within the police commission. if you go 6-8 blocks from here i finds open air drug markets for several years. this is embarrass am. it is embarrassment to the city and should be embarrassment to everyone in this room the police commissioners the police department, to the board of supervisors and the mayor.

it is not acceptable. it is not acceptable to have individuals outside the federal building the federal building selling drugings. that is when i'm here to talk b. chief scott noted 45 individuals were rested under the use provision i'm not interested inform 3 of those were from outside perform san francisco and anyone irrelevant surprised with that data point and why would you be surprised when you know as chief scott suggested from that drugs are there you go a few blocks from where we are sitting. why should anybody be surprise the. that needs to shut down there is a public healing component with the usage side. but with respect, this is not

the police department. perhaps that is part of your [inaudible] but we need to do more to close the drug market exactlies have support for the police commission to do so. thank you. >> good evening i'm a service provider homeless service provider. behalf of someone over 20 years experience. 12 glorious downtown l.a. some of the their tifs i'm hearing here i have been in san francisco for 10 years i seen open air drug dealing >> i wonder why the sudden this urgency about temperature people die from drug over dose every year i like to know how many are dying housed. right.

if my experience work nothing downtown l.a. around -- issues criminalizing poor people and homeless and black people. if that l.a. skid row allowed flourish. no problems it was a policy of contain am it keep the folks out of your neighborhoodses it was allowed in 50 block yours for the activities. this hen going on why now urien mir broed having apeck conference in coming up in november? and you want to clear your out for the people visiting. that was my day when i was a black panther. this is running on fumes.

[inaudible] san francisco has the most 18 homeless law in california that is bullshit and i'm sorry for my profound language i'm a pronouned everfound brother. now we are seeing now the saying -- >> that the end of public comment.

>> next item >> 9 discussion and possible action to adopt general orders 6.02 physical evidence and scene preservation discuss and possible action. >> who is presenting? i'm mark powell here if there are questions. why yes. >> hopeful low we will get you back on the new facility >> i love to and invitation is there. >> monday. why monday. >> right. >> okay. so -- just one question for you will this dgo implemented immediately? will there be training or delayed implementation

>> we were asking for time to get a department notice to layout differences with the old and the new. i think this. >> 60 day lag time. >> yes. >> i'm sorry that is in the dgo or asked. requested. do we need put that on the record when we pass it, correct? >> was this sergeant 60 days with request? let me double check i believe it it is. upon 90 days. is 90 business days.

yes >> why 90 instead of 60. producing a video. >> we talked about public low a video and talking with the expert who wrote it thought the department notice was necessary. >> let's do 60. joy think that is fine yoochl do that. >> can i dpet a motion to adopt with 60 day impelementation >> so moved. >> i will second. >> thank you. sergeant. >> member commonment to comment on item 9, approach the podium. there is no comment. commissioner walker. >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes. >> commissioner. >> yes. commissioner. why yes. commissioner yee. >> yes. >> vice president carter. >> yes. >> and pedestrian elias. >> yes. 7 yes's. >> one few are 90 or 97.

next. good night. see you tomorrow. >> 10 discussion and possible action adopt order 6.04 assaultos police officers discussion and possible action >> who is this? i will jump up as once. >> not mine i will do my best. >> next item. >> i the try to answer questions you have about this pol. i assume a 60 day period. why yes, i am. why can i get a motion to adopt with 60 day period. >> moved. >> second. >> for a member whoments to comment approach the podium. >> no public comment. commissioner walker. >> yes. >> i'm there is comment on this item only. >> yes. >> star child, i like to say

that should be no special policy on assaults on police officers. police officers should have the same protection against assault in terms of legal pens consequence any other member of the public. ip don't believe should be privileges you wear a badge or uniform. and you know it is already a matter of project cal common sense more dangerous to assault a police officer it is stupid. if you care about your life and safety. you know. they are armed. right. but -- ordinary people deserve the same protection. i have not read the details i know the laws put special privilege in affect to protect certain people. first lady of the united states yesterday motorcade down vaness.

25 vehicles 20 were police xars motorcycles. all that money is taken away from protecting ordinary people against robbery and assaults and vandalism and crimes. to protect powerful. that includes the police they get special protections. request that. take many of the special protections out as you can. thank you. >> >> upon end of public comment. commissioner walker. how do you vote. >> yes >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes. >> commissionerian >> yes >> commissioner yoe >> yes. >> vice president carter. >> yes. >> and president elias. >> yes. >> 7 yes's. >> 11. discussion and possible action to adopt department general order death case discussion and possible action. why good evening i'm here to

answer questions i'm asking for the same 60 days. call training >> motion? >> moved. >> i will second. >> roll. anyone in the public like to comment regarding line item 11. approach. >> there is no public comment. commissioner walker? >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes. >> commissioner yan >> yes >> commissioner yee. >> yes. why vice president overstone. >> yes. >> president eloise. >> yes. >> item 12 discussion and possible action discuss general order 11. 08 grooming standards. did in the have to run. commissioner walk upper she made you run down. chief's back. this is mine i'm open to

questions. commissioner benedicto. i not andmented to note that i'm glad we got to move 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 out today and went through meet and cover fer and that with the bargaining unit xis hope that continues to move and get the upon and number of dbo's in meet and conifer i open one member pointed out one of them i hope we see them and continue to move these out. >> moving to. adopt. >> and i. imented ask delaying in implementation? >> should in the be >> okay. >> 60 days >> yes. >> there should not be or asking for 60 days. >> you are asking for delay for

implementation. >> yes. okay. . should we do thirst. no, i'm sorry i think i misknow you are asking for 60 day impelementing. yes. why ask for 60 days >> yes. >> you are good. >> okay. second. >> members like to comment regarding item 12 approach the podium. regarding i like to stands up a bit for the officers i think members of public like to see officers look a little bit unconventional. they is unprofessional buoy

think the public come a long way in terms of seeing what is acceptable look. hair braiding was discriminated against and caused people hardship in jobs and those things. eithers and tattoos. you know does not look restrictive in the policy buoy think there is it it is like why do you need to get in what earrings someone is wearing. facial hair maintained. one thing i would say should be under the tatoos might need addressing i don't know a problem in the city i hope not in los angeles the sheriff's department riddled with police gangs and allow these police officers have gang member tattoos on them look it up i'm not making it up.

those tatoos should be presented. some of other policy relaxed a bit. let mrfrs continue okay to look nonconformist makes the public more comfortable. thank you. no further commentful commissioner walk upper. >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto yoochlt yes. >> commissioner, >> yes. >> commissioner. >> yes. why commissioner yee >> yes. >> vice president overstone. >> yes >> president elias. >> yes. >> public comment on matters per tien to 15 closed session on 14 whether to holds closed session. if you would like to comment approach the podium.

upon >> i like to get a copy to see what it is there was no copy. i picked up every piece of paper but did not see the agenda of i don't know what item 15 is if i could be formed and like to address it. there are no documents. don't you need to at this time publicity nature of discussion. on the agenda >> i don't have there was no copy there. i did in the see one >> get you a copy. >> >> thank you. we are on item 13. agenda on the table in the white notebook. there was public meant on all matters pertaining to closed session i would say i think it is insufficient to say we are

going to closed session and in the tell you about what it is. you know there is too much secrets in gentlemanful you know i would urge actual keep anything in secret meeting minimum and tell people what will be discussed in broad terms before and a sunset clause if it need to secret now legal or staff put a clause, in 5 years this will be public and talk about it then. nothing without a sunset clause. thank you. >> it is on the third page it is listed on what is there.

all right. 14. vote on whether or not to holds 15 in closed session. >> motion. why motion. second. >> on the motion to go in closed session. why walker >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes. >> commissioner, >> yes. >> commissioner, >> yes. why commissioner yoe. >> yes. >> vice president carter. >> yes. >> president elias. >> yes. >> you have 7 we are going we are back from closed session >> vote to disclez. motion to not disclose with

exception of factual updates that will be disclosed in the minutes. why second. >> for the public who would like to publicity comment on 16. there is no comment. commissioner walker >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes >> commissioner, >> yes >> commissioner. why yes >> commissioner yee. >> yes. >> vice president overstone >> yes. >> and president elias. >> yes. >> you have 7 yesses >> line item 17, adjournment. clear clear

going 90 charlie. go ahead. we moved to san francisco in 1982. we came from the philippines. i have three kids nathan, jessica and iva. i was really young. when i had neat, i turned 19. and then two weeks later, he was born. so when he was fine, i used to watch cops all the time. all the time and so he would watch with me. he had his little handcuffs and his little toy

walkie talkie. and then whenever the theme song came on, he would walk around and he just thought he was the baddest little thing. i think he was in kindergarten at sheridan because he and i attended the same elementary school there was an officer bill. he would just be like mom officer bill was there then one day, he said, mom, i touched his gun. and he was just so happy about it. everything happened at five minutes. i would say everything. happened at 4 to 5 years old. it's like one of those goals to where you just you can't you can't just let go. high school. i think you know everybody kind of strays. he was just riding the wave. and i mean, he graduated. thank god. one day i think he was about 20 or 21. he told me, he said mom. i want to be a cop or a firefighter, i said. no you're going to be a firefighter. but

that's really not what he wanted to do. his words were i want to make a difference. and that was a really proud moment for me when he said that my dad was a cop in the philippines for 20 years. i think a lot of that played a role into his becoming a cop. my dad was really happy about it. my mom. she was kind of worried, but i just figured i can't stop him. he can make his own decisions. stu. i just want to say what's up? how you doing? good. good. no i'm trying to look good for us to looking good for us to so when he was in the police academy, mind you this kid was not a very studious kid. but i've never seen him want something so bad when he was home. he'd be in his room studying the codes. he really

fought for it. hi. what's your name? i'm nate. nate is great with kids, and he would give them hugs or give them stickers. i think that that's a positive influence on the kids, and then the people around you see it. once he makes that connection with people and they trust him that foundation that respect people look at you and see your actions more than your words and so that i think will reach people more than anything. you could say you later, brother. thank you. all right, see you. it's a really hard job. i know you. you see a lot of the negative for me. i would not put myself through that if i didn't care. you know, you have to be the right kind of person. you have to have the right heart to want to do that. when people ask me if you know what my son does , um, i just tell him he's a cop

, and i just feel like i'm beaming with pride. i always told him when he was young that he would do something great. and so to see it. it's i have a moment. i'm very proud of him. t >> in 1948 swensen's ice cream

used to make ice cream in the navy and decided to open up an ice cream shop it it takes time for the parent to put money down and diane one of the managers at zen citizen in arena hills open and serve old-fashioned ice cream. >> over 20 years. >> yeah. >> had my own business i was a firefighter and came in- in 1969 her dad had ice cream and left here still the owner but shortly after um, in here became the inc. maker the manager and lead and branded the store from day to day and in the late 90s-

was obvious choice he sold it to him and he called us up one night and said i'm going to sell the ice cream store what you you talking about diane came and looked at the store and something we want to do and had a history of her dad here and growing up here at the ice cream store we decided to take that business on. >> and have it in the family i didn't want to sell it. >> to keep it here in san francisco. >> and (unintelligible). >> share worked there and worked with all the people and a lot of customers come in. >> a round hill in the

adjoining areas loved neither ice cream shop in this area and support russia hills and have clean up day and give them free ice cream because that is those are the people that keep us the opportunity to stick around here four so many years next generations have been coming her 20 er thirty or 40 years and we have the ingredients something it sold and, you know, her dad said to treat the customers right and people will keep on coming back and 75 or 74 years, you know, that is quite an accomplishment i think of it as our first 75 years and like to see that, you know, going into the future um, that ice cream

shop will be around used to be 4 hundred in the united states and all gone equipment for that one that is the first and last we're proud of that we're still standing and people people are you tell people it's been around in 50 years and don't plan on i'm really excited be here i'm mayor london breed. welcome to this extraordinary community. and let me give a how the out to lanea miller and urban alchemy

folks. we appreciate you. and sheryl, thank you from larkin street and the work do you with young folk in transitional aged wrouth who are struggling in our communities. you know we are fortunate this we have people who care. and they want to be out there doing what is necessary to help the challenges around homelessness. and urban alchemy is an extraordinary addition to san francisco than i are taking it to the next level with this heart program. i'm grateful for your work, leadership and the fact what many of the people who are a part of urban alchemy, they understand the challenges that are people are experiencing on the streets because in some instances they have been through challenges themselves. folks had issues around homelessness and substance use disorder. behavioral health. interactions with the justice system and you know in some cases i remember talking to i young man who talked to me about

how he wished that urban alchemy had been around when he was going through when he was going through so this different touch could have occurred as a result. you know what he needed. and in fact, he takes that same prop with the work he degree on the streets. we hear so many great stories from people who are serving the musn't in different capacity and oftentimes supervisor mandelman we have so many people who want to talk about san francisco and talk about san francisco is doing and when they are not. what they don't see when what you don't experience the first time i seen it today when they talked about the heart program and showing someone in distress and showing urban alchemy, basically wrapping their arms around that individual and trying to allow him to process when he was going through as they waited patient low to ensure that he was going to get help this they were able to

provide. so we know those stories are happening every day. they are not translating the same. ways but i want you to know i know what is going of i see you. folks out well on the front listen they see you. and especially the people who are a part of this program who are showing up every day and dealing with the challenges. the people that you are help happening, than i see you. they appreciate t. people like momma t this is here hen in the stele for 50 years. who is considered an elder who should not be living in the tent on the streets in san francisco. and because of the cabin community this is one step in ensuring she has a roof over her head we are able to get her on the right path of the support this she need whether medication and doctor appointments or a community of people to be around and to learn from and grow from.

a lot of that makes sense and -- having a village is important. 70 units we opened were extraordinary. and today we are here to talk about budget investments. and she will be talking in just a moment but i will say that -- san francisco has invested tremendous low in helping to address challenges around homelessness. and we know there is in the i one size fits all. we know it requires making sure we are shelter beds. making sure that we have permanent housing. making sure we have permanent supportive housing. and making sure we prevent people from becoming homeless in the first place. that's the combination we have been invest nothing and when we need to get san francisco on the right path and despite a 2 year budget deficit of 780 million

dollars, we are still making sure that we are making the commitments to do what is necessary to get the work around homelessness on the right path. to continue these investments. but talk a bit about what has not been said in san francisco because people say what is happening on the streets we are not doing anything around homelessness. despite a pandemic we helped transition 10,000 people out of homelessness in various capacities. and despite challenges around homelessness between 20 then and 2022, no other bay area county hsu saw i reduction in homelessness. san francisco saw a 15% reduction in unsheltered homelessness and 3.5% reduction in over all homelessness. and so the fact that happened, demonstrates that we are doing a

lot of work. making investments work t. is not perfect but we also are providing various layers of programs so that when we see a need that is complicated we are able to meet that need. easier said than done. a let of work is being done. a lot of accomplice ams made. and that work will continue. now i know not long ago i set an ambitious goal one i know some are thinking how will you do temperature this is not enough and we need to set big goals. we can't be afraid to put forth bold policies and go hard. and to make change. because people are counting on us to make better decisions. and so, over the next 5 years in my homeless recovery plan, my plan and my goal working with our various city agencies in the public. is to make sure this we are

creating 30,000 new opportunity to ensure that people have new places and that they don't become homeless. we reduce unsheltered homelessness by 50%. part of what i wanted touch on today is to talk about that again. despite a budget deficit. our investments in homelessness will continue. but it is going to require real challenging kinds of changes to our policies. so i appreciate supervisor mandelman who has been on my back, wanting to make sure we had a shelter first policy that we are able to give people a bed when we encounter them on the streets. no more excuses. we have to make it work and make investments occur. when are we going to do? this upcoming budget, we plan to

make sure that we are protecting over 500 beds that have one time funding. these beds were not anticipated to continue because there was one time funding used for the beds and state funds and fema funding and things we enjoy are drying up. we have been able to protect 500 bed and adding 600 more shelter beds specifically. that is when the folks of urban alchemy are working with folks the homeless out reach folks working with people they need to offer people something. and that's what this additional shelter beds will be about offering an alternative. our other plan to add 545 units. to be clear since 2018, we increased the number of housing specific low for people who are struggling with homeless