>> city june 21, meeting of the police station. >> good evening, the chair has called the meet to go order. if you can please rise for the "pledge of allegiance". >> i pledge allegiance to the flag. of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> all right, vice president, if i can take roll. >> please.

>> commissioner walker. >> present. >> commissioner benedicto is excused. commissioner yanez. >> here. >> commissioner yee is excused. president elias is enroute. vice president oberstone, you have a quorum. >> can you please call item number 1, sergeant. >> line item 1, weekly officer certificate. presentation of of an officer that has gone above and beyond from their duties. from tara station. >> good evening, commissioners, chief scott executive director henderson. first off, i would like to give thank you for the community to speak today to present the

police officer recognition award. officer perry is a 15-year veteran and assigned to the chair evangelical plainclothes unit. the unit which investigates complex incidents and collaborates with other plainclothes as part of a larger mission to reduce the rise of criminal activity. in addition to officer ferry, he assist his fellow officers. in his tenure, he has participated in over 100 search warrants, offered hundreds of arrest warrants and has been the lead investigator in dozens investigations. one occured in october of 2022, a series of gas station robberies injured in san francisco and in daly city. officer ferry was working when

one of the incident occured and investigated. he abstained video, through a series of investigative, he was able to locate the owner and along with the owners aid, he was able to track the vehicle and its whereabouts. officer and the team were able to locate the vehicle pulling into another gas station in san francisco. to prevent from another robbery from occurring, officer on scene took the robbery suspect into him entering the gas station. officers recovered a firearm and were able to link him to several armed robberies throughout the bay area. officer determined lead to work for an armed suspect that was responsible for the series. this is dedication and commit toment keeping the citizens of

the city safe. i have personally known since he first trained at daly station, i was one of his fto sergeant and i can stand here today saying he was one of my best recruits w.that said, i would like to present officer mike for the weekly officer recognition award. [applause] would you like to say some words? >> thank you. thank you for everyone who has trained me, chief, put me on the assignments initially and also everyone i worked with. southern plain growth unit, southern northern mission and my own team, my sergeant and everyone there and my family, hey girls.

thank you. >> give you your what back? >> spike shirt. >> i thought you said spice rack. >> that too. >> okay, i'll just read award the san francisco police department recognizes michael as officer of the week. in dedication to demonstrate throughout a community practices and inspiring greatness by exemplifying by the police officers as guardians of our community such an example is worthy of the highest esteem by the city and county of the san francisco, presented on the 21st of june 21, 2023. >> thank you, i just wanted to

thank officer. i understand how's difficult the job is, and you all do some outstanding work, robberies are up for the year and a lot of that is due to small population, in my opinion, that have plagued our city and this is an example of what we need to do to make that better. i thank you and your partners, we appreciate it. >> commissioner walker? >> congratulations, thank you very much for your service. you have been i think all over town, so i know who to call when i have a question. >> what is your favorite station? >> yeah? >> taral. >> good answer. good answer. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> for any member of the public that would like to make public comment online item 1, please approach the podium.

>> it's good, it's the ambiance was, i mean i know it's honest with your emotions and the sitings. i wish, we didn't have so many problems in town, we have to solve these problems, it's very deep. san francisco is amazing, we're going to find solution to solve them. it's very difficult. >> that's the end of public comment. line item 2, general public comment. at this time, the public is able to address the commission. under police commission rules during public comment neither police nor commissioners are

required to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. alternately, you may submit a public speaking request. if would you like to make public comment, please approach the podium. >> it's a chance to talk, you know. i believe crimes being committed against me and i have no idea how to say that out loud and come out and say that to your face. i believe the crimes are being committed against me and i cannot help myself. i don't know what is going on. i live in the corner of grove and laguna and at about 4:35, cars come, really going fast, past the stop sign and wakes me up. i was homeless for a long time.

and i'm kind of just pushed out to all the way to, into the curb has the kind of guy i am. i'm having a hard time understanding why. you know, so i think something is going on. i believe i'm being scammed. i think it's a scam when you look at it it's a scam. i'm being scammed and i'm being hurt, i'm being hurt. and i know people who are watching, people know what is going on and pretend that nothing is going on. i don't know when it's going to stop, i don't know when it's going to end. i think this is dangerous, very bad. but they're violent, people who touch me on the street, i cannot pass by people and i cannot walk. so i'm in prison. i think that's imprisonment if you cannot stop.

i get assault beside 30 people a day, people touch me, if they touch me, that's assault, i don't understand why? why? what is going on. i've been living here my whole life. i don't get it, why is this happening? why can't i pickup and live? i don't know, i don't know why, you know. okay, thank you. >> i like to use the overhead as usual, i'm paulet brown and i'm here concerning my son aubrey who was murdered august 14, 2006. still today his case is not solved. this is june, july, and then august, is coming up. i am every year, within a month

or two months before, the anniversary of his murder, i start feeling some type of way. and my feelings come back. even when i look at my children that i have now, that is left, i'm glad that they're here and not laying in a grave somewhere but they come back up about my handsome young boy with the beautiful smile. he existed. he's still my child, even though he's murdered. he's still my baby. i still remember things about him. i just don't want his case, even though it's a cold case, i want to keep it alive in people's eyes in the system's eyes, that we still grief. we still hurt for our children. i still hurt even mothers and fathers are still hurting. i dwael his father all the time, he does not act like he's

hurting but i know he does. this is all the people involved with murdering my child. i'm not going to read their names, i don't have much time. i show these pictures because i want them to know. i talk with my words but i want them to see. and it's just not for me, it's just for sf gov. television to see it and those mothers out there that may be watching this. nobody wants their parents to stand over a casket. these are all the unsolved homicides, they have not been solved. how do we solve these unsolved homicides? i'm not standing here each time just to,; i don't know. thank you.

>> again. i was prepared to say a big thing, but i'm not ready, i think it's, we have to make sure i think, again i'm going to repeat the idea responsibility, critical thinking but so. remember something please. emotional disorder is contagious. so we are dealing with a push from the tien fraction of humanity. let's face it they're dealing with emotional disorder. it's totally out of control. we have to control this, that's going to be the solution we are dealing with sick people. so we know this, but make sure

there are ways, i don't inspect you. it's getting very. you're going to lose your jobs. it's going to be robert. pay attention, now. we don't have much time just, okay, i'll be back to tomorrow. i think we have the solution to address these guys for what they are, they are sick. we are not hopefully. so, have a nice night. >> we're approaching 800 going

intentional and unintentional fentanyl. consumers consent san francisco now drug, tourist destination. and they handout needles, we lost 900 people. have been released from custody and of the 300 overdoses, what fraction or percentage are now among the dead, drug dealers may increase fatalities to proof arguments against increased arrests.

so yeah, they can work to scue the numbers if they would like and then that bolt sters the health point the point of the supervisors that say, that is arresting drug users results in increased fatalities. so that is a portion of the 900 dead to get an idea of what that looks like. thanks. >> president elias, that's the end of public comment. line item 3, consent calendar receive and file. march and april, 2023. >> can i get a motion? >> motion to approve. >> i'll second. >> sergeant? >> members of the public that would like to make public comment recording line item 3, consent calendar please approach the podium. and there is no public comment,

commissioner walker. >> yes. >> commissioner yanez. >> yes. >> commissioner byrne. >> yes. >> vice president oberstone? >> yes. >> and president elias. >> yes. >> you have five yeses. >> next item. >> line item 4, weekly discussion, provide an overview of the incidents or events occurring having an impact on public safety. will be limit today determining for calendar for a future meeting. chief scott. >> thank you, sergeant young good, good evening, president elias, executive director henderson and public. i'll start this week's chief report with major incidents as we had a major incident over the weekend. and that was the shooting at the embarcadero and in the area of pier 39. this happened at about 6:53

p.m., or 6:49 p.m. actually, on june 18th, this past father's day on sunday. a car to car shooting between the occupants of two weeks resulted in two victims sustaining gunshot wounds. one victim was jird which was a ten-year-old which was hit and his sister was also struck but no injure aoeg requiring transportation to the hospital were sustained. so this shooting started at stockton and beach, the incident started at stockton and beach. what we know at this point, there was some type of dispute between the occupants of the two vehicles that resulted in the exchange of gun fire and that incident and travel, toward pier 39 and south on the

embarcadero traveled for almost a mile and a half and ended half. numerous shots were fired during this mile-plus, car to car incident. as i said, there were a total of, outside of the victims that were shot there were a total of 4 people that why injured and the other girl that was hit but not transported. this was a horrific incident, our officers got there in about four minutes and there were numerous calls that came n.paramedic and medics got there and finally located the victim and this resulted in the two individuals who were transported who we believe were involved with this incident. one of the individuals, the male has been booked for an outstanding felony warrant, weapons related and also for,

wreckless discharge of a firearm. so that investigation is still open and on going, there is a lot of video out there that our investigators are trying to go through, comb through to put together the exact picture of what happened. we do think that we made progress in this case but that's all i can report at this point. luckily nobody was killed in this incident because it was horrific. a lot of people out, pier 39 as we know is very popular destination for both our city residents and people who visit our city. we were very fortunate that this was not worse than what it could have been. couple of other incidents that happened, it was also a very significant shooting in the tenderloin in the on june 13th at 1:37, this resulted in a homicide. officers respond today a shoot anding found the victim lying

on the sidewalk. the officers rendered aid until the to the victim who was transported to the hospital where the victim later succumbed to the injuries. no arrest was made, our investigating are making some progress and we will keep the public and the commission posted in the results as we get them. there were four shooting incidents this week resulting in four victims and two unknown victims that i just reported on one. there was another shooting in the 400 block of turk, numerous subjects were involved in the altercation and one victim was dead and left the scene. that person collapses in the 200 block of levinworth, later, second victim was shot. they flagged down a unit that summoned on ambulance, they called for stabbing victim who then responded the person. that is still under

investigation, no arrest made yet on that particular incident. it was another incident at mcallister and hide. officers responded to the san francisco general hospital for call of a self transported gunshot victim. the driver was detained and interviewed by the sheriffs but the location of the shooting has not been determined. so no arrest has been made on that incident yet. on polk and post at 3:33 am, officers respond today several shots fired and found, people who called reported two victims lying on the street and possible gunshot wounds. officer did not locate any victims and the search was negative. so we have not verified that anything was shot from that incident. we did however recover multiple

rounds and various caliber extended casings from the scene. officers located several witnesses but have not been able to locate any shooting victims or suspects from this incident as of yet. that investigation is on going. couple of other significant sdintsds, we had a significant arrests this was an aggravated assault hate crime incident arrest and a commercial robbery. this injuried at on june 12th and 1200 block of tomas street. two subjects entered a towing business volving selling of a vehicle. the subject ordered the victim to the ground at gun point and kicked the victims multiple times. there was about 2000 on the counter quh the subjects grabbed the money and fled. san francisco officer attempted

to stop vehicles as they fled in different locations. officers located one vehicle which was empty. witnesses directed officers to a suspect. the subject and vehicle one subject and another vehicle still remain outstanding. so good effort on the officers but we still have work to do on that one. i will wrap this up with a recap on our efforts in tenderloin. received 300 grams of fentanyl. to date in 24 weeks, that's increase of 149 percent compared to seizures this time last yaefrment total narcotic that includes all type of narcotic is 95.426 grams.

that's an increase over last year. in terms of for possession of sales, we have 390 individuals arrested. we had 566 for the totality of 2022 so going at the pace that we're going we'll exceed that. and most of the arrest is sales of fentanyl in terms of the other effort to curve the other usage. of those 4 people that have identified or were identified as being from the city of san francisco. so that trend conditions as well. california patrol released their statistics that i made sure commissioners received and for the public, that included 92 total arrests and 18 driving under the influence arrest, 6

drug recognition expert evaluations, 7 non fentanyl arrests, 19 fentanyl drug arrest. 122 vehicles, 41 stolen vehicles recovered. and a recovery of 428 grams of fentanyl. 957 grams of pheting and 2 19 grams of coke rain and 31 grams of heroin. and 8,000 grams of cannabis and grams of various pills. and this was released by the governor's office of state of california. i will update the commission and the public when we get the next release of the statistics. and last thing general crime trends, homicides we're one above where we were last year, 23 as compared to 22, total of violent crimes, we are up 3%,

total property crimes we are down 6% and that is a 5% reduction and total of part one crime. and year to date is 91 percent and that concludes my report. >> thank you, chief. i was wondering is the department doing anything or making any efforts to address the four shootings that have happened this week? or the up take in shootings? >> the shootings this week, we department believe, yes we are first of all, the investigation of those shootings is intense and on going. there are, there were other shootings three other shootings. two of the three we believe are related, those were two shootings where we have not been able to determine where they happened or whether they happened in the city.

and then the, there was a shooting on the freeway which the california highway patrol is handling even though it occur in the city, it's their jurisdiction, we will assist if requested on that shooting. and then the homicide in the tenderloin which we believe, well, can't spill the motive what we believe, but we made some good progress and we do believe that we're going in a really good direction in that case. overall these shootings appeared not to have been grouped or gang-related, at least one that we know about this week. so there is no connection except for the one that we believe is related. and we don't believe that's a gang-related shooting as well. part of our strategy, i mean, being that these isolated incidents, it's like the

embarcadero, helps to have coverage so. we we adjusted our patrols to up our coverage in embarcadero. and the mission last week, that person of interest has been taken into custody. that investigation is still on going. we don't have any indication that we're going to have any retal tory shootings. a lot of this is getting out with the community, and making sure that they have the latest information. presence helps as people feel uncertain and they're upsetting when you have a shooting in your neighborhood. in terms of our overall shooting strategy, that has not changed and that is geared on. and making sure that we, that we try to get those individuals and their families before, they get involved.

so that effort is on going. we are, significantly above where we were last year in terms of that type of engagement, trying to invite the people that we believe are at-risk. and that is going to be on going strategy because we know, what we know in terms of the people in the city that are most at-risk. so that's really the kruks of our issue. >> thank you, president elias. a couple of questions, chief, so the mission street shooting you believe that to be gang-related? >> we, and the person of interest does have affiliation that does not mean that it was affiliated by any gang-related circumstances. but that person of interest, let me say this just to be clear.

there is more work to be done on that case. there is evidence that we have discovered that needs further work but there is no indication that it was motivated by gangs. >> i understand your distinction. as regards the shooting over at pier 39, is that gang-related? >> we don't have any indication that that is gang-related right now at all. >> sxl one of the individuals is under arrest and the other person is in the hospital, still? >> i believe that person has been released but they have not been placed under arrest yet. there is still a lot of investigation to do. >> so one of the people that was, in the black sedan for lack of a better word has been arrested by the san francisco police. >> yes, the person in the black suv was booked by our

department. >> and the other person was released? >> the other person was. >> he was in the black sedan as well. >> it was a lady and she, that person has not been arrested. >> okay. and finally, chief as regards, the m.o. u with the district attorney's office, is there any update on that? >> the current m.o. u is still in place and just, still work, we have, well we're down as far as the mou and that's been given to the commission and posted publicly. so it's a mat per of agendizing that, not to the final conclusion. >> but given the mou to the police commission? >> yes. >> thank you. >> thank you, president elias, chief thanks for the report.

just wanted to confirm the pilot team in the tenderloin that is meant to arrest drug users, is that still 8 officers and one sergeant? >> it's still 8 officers and a sergeant yes. >> are there any plans to expand it? >> we will expand to do more in the night hours >> and can you say what that may look like? >> i don't have the number now. a lot of this has to balance but we will expand it, but as we, figure out how to big that unit can be, i will let you all know. >> thank you. wanted ask you about the chp, it was publicly reported last

week that the chp is making pretax stops in the tenderloin at least. were you aware of this? >> well, i definitely saw that report. i believe the commissioners and everybody that i talked to in chp has a different opinion than what was reported. and what they said from the start, they do not pretext stop, including violations. but they do not do that for the purposes of some other investigation. >> their pr officer like end it to fishing. >> their pr person for the public, reported fishing, fishing for criminals, seems like that's a kind of definition of a pretext stop.

but you're saying that the chronicle got it wrong. >> well i'm saying with my kfrtionz with the detail as well as the san francisco chp officer does not agree and share that opinion. i cannot say what the pr told the chronicle, i was not part of that conversation. i cannot validate, i can tell what the commissioner told me. >> okay, thank you, that's everything for me. >> commissioner yanez. >> thank you, president elias. i had a couple of questions, my understanding, there were there for numbers, 91 and 53 citation south side what i read somewhere.

>> nobody has accepted treatment upon release? not yet? >> and do we plan to continue with the strategy? i'm >> yes, i'm hopeful that changes. i just want to make sure that the public and the commission understand, we're not confusing health addiction services from the criminal justice part of this. you know, they're there should be as part of the commissioner sfrs. we're trying to change the culture of the streets where people use openly. and the one tool that we do v

to do that, we have engaged with folks that do that, but we have not gone past that. we sited in the past but we have not tried to get people off the streets. and the overall goal is to try to get people to help. and hopefully, some of them if not as many as possible will take up that offer. and hopefully, people can accept and accept whatever my understanding is that there is a second offer. >> i remember last week, you mentioned the lead program, is there any possibility of we

opening or revisiting that possibility of providing that in alternative for detension. >> it's not in the budget this year. when we did the pilot, the police department did not ask or receive any additional funding. we just used the resources that we had to do that program. but the other agency needed some funding. as far as we know, the participating agencies have not requested it's not in the table right now. hopefully we can revisit that. >> last question around some of the reports around the incidents with the chp, i understands that there were

guns drawn at that point. are there suggestions coming from our department on how those efforts from external parties impact the perception of the policing in san francisco and how that is going to have an impact on our department. >> yeah, we have not had any incidents that have risen to the level of debrief, and the effectiveness of the program and it's not just the sta statistic that we have. i think time will tell whether that is a factor. i can say this, i have goent a

lot of community feedback, i have not received any negative feedback on how the chp is communicating. i have not gotten any negative. we have not had any incident together that rudder a tactical debrief. definitely those conversations have been happening. and the answer to vice president oberstone, what my office has been, they have their own poll size but they do understand, fully understand that this needs to be done the right way. >> and in the sake of clarity are there new services being offered? >> i don't know if they're new.

the services that, well i don't believe that they're new. the services that have been available and made available are still the same services as far as i know. there are addiction services across the city. some of our cbos those are still in existence. i don't believe there is anything at this point. it really trying to focus on making sure that the people particularly if they have been arrested, that they get at least an opportunity to partake in those services. >> got it, thank you chief. >> thank you, president elias. the issue of the treatment, i know that we have when we did our resolution around the heart

recommendations or the cart recommendations, we also included making sure that we were aimed at the heart which is the public health department of emergency services. i know you're all discussing that hand off as it were. are the s*efshses available when you're in the conversation? are there people ready to take people to a different area? like if they want to go to treatment? are there people there to transport as partners? is the partnership working, i suppose? that entails a couple of things, somebody using when

officers come up on them and/or, in a state where they're not doing well. we had one but to answer your question, i do understand and know that dph is out with their street medicine they are out and trying to engage while we're doing what we do. and then the services are offered when they get booked or when they get sited or and/or when they get released.

and toes arrested were local, is that the number on this current? >> it's probably more than that. as of today, there were four people either identified that they were from san francisco or records that they were identified. most of them were either out of city or out of state. and i have a question about that robbery. do you think that people are aware of the activity at the location?

sometimes we've seen these type of robberies around and somebody shows up and because they are aware of it. was it just an arbitrary thing that happened. do you know if there was planning around it. we do have some showing up to be a car. so we have seen those. i don't know, i don't know that that was the case on this one. and i will follow-up but i don't have that answer in the briefing that i have. but that is a thing that we see. >> for members of the public that would like to make a public comment, please approach

the podium. >> good evening, again, i just want to report on the article that was published october 19, 2022. about zero dollars being paid out foyer homicides nearly a decade. managing this so they can find outweighs to pay tip sters whether they have criminal records or not, whether they're involved with the crime. find me a way to pay them so they can, so that the case can be solved.

there is people that saw that and they want to come forward. money talks, it does talk, it will help. there is 250,000 reward sitting right here. where is this money at? where is it? can i go talk to them? can i talk to somebody about finding ways, other way to see pay tip sters to find out about unsolved homicides? i come here asking this, somebody can do something. hire somebody. i'm tired of being passer fied. i want other way to see get

tipsters. my son's anniversary is coming up, 17 years. it's been 17 years. nobody wants to go through this. i'm tired. >> president elias that's the end of public comment. item number 5, report on dpa director's discussion. director henderson. >> award winning, director anderson. >>--henderson. >> multi.

i'll keep my report short this week. dpa has opened 340 case thz year and we have 265 cases currently pending. we sustained 29 case sxz mediated 14 cases. we have 20 investigation that's have gone beyond the 9-month period. and 19 of those cases are told with criminal or civil cases that are pending. with outstanding decisions, waiting, we have six case that's are waiting for commission decisions. and we have 88 cases that are outstanding waiting for chief decisions. in terms of the weekly trends, this week, the number one allegation with 21% of the cases, were for allegations of an officer failing to take required action. and the 2 highest stations

there were two this year with three cases each, i had the most allegations from this week. in terms, i don't have, updates for out reach or audit, we've been very busy this week with intern program. i'll continue to give you periodic reports. we have two administrative case that's are in closed session. in the hearing room with us, is chris senior investigator and also jenel kaywood who is our director of policy. that is here today. for folks that are interested in contacting dp a, website is sf-got.org, 415-241-7711.

we have cases that are on the consent calendar, i think we approved them. i promised the commission that i was going to return with a summary of the things that we talked about from last week, i'll still working on that but i'm going to give that to you. that's the new agreement with the department of publishing last week's discussion items. i'm working on it and put it together but i want to give them to the chief before i present it here. >> thank you, director anderson. did i miss, have we made any progress on the chief's hearings? has there been any? >> hello, the numbers are the same, is that what you mean. >> all right, sergeant. >> for members of the public that would like to make public, please approach the podium. >> i'm going to say good night, it was going to be about the

chief's report. i think it has become critical. what is a police officer? for example? i don't want to offend anything but i don't think it's your role . you're not a doctor, so people, problem with drugs and everything. the blurring of the lines here, we're getting in total confusion, that's no good.

it's now. thanks. >> line item 6, commission reports and possible action. commissioner discussion will be limited to calendar future meeting. commissioners reports and commissioner announcements identified for consideration at a future commission meeting. >> vice president. >> just a quick one from me. yesterday we had a working group meeting for d g.o. 110, activity that was scheduled to be the last working group. although there seems to be

unanimous consent that we needed one more. so it will be back by popular demand in two weeks which would be our final working group on that policy. >> thank you. commissioner walker? >> commissioner walker: thank you, president elias. a couple of things, when is that i, i have been having on going discussions with some community folks and department folks about the patrol specialist program, we're hoping to present to the commission next month to get an idea where the commission stands. and i really appreciate the efforts on behalf of the department to engage in that conversation. it may be helpful on some of the issues talking about the different roles out on the street. and i recommend this for all commissioners, if you have not gone.

i had a wonderful tour of the crime lab, very new building. i think it was finished just before covid. really amazing and interesting. i want to thank director powell for meeting me there and showing me around. it's really interesting and very impressive and i just, i would like to sort of introduce this topic because i brought it up to director powell and had also discussed at an event, i cannot remember the head of homicide investigations. the issue of that has been brought up here a lot. how it's possible to do a different type of award to help investigations move along. i have to say, everybody thinks

it's a really good idea. and figure out what our restrictions are. now i think that they are described and defined by statute that it has to lead to a conviction of some sort. i would like to look at that and see if it's possible. president yanez. >> councilmember yanez: thank you. i want to thank the staff for turning the dgo draft and turning it around so quickly. i already sense and feel that there are some improvements, thank you for incorporating

some of the feedback already provided. sometimes our tough conversations lead to better products and this is one of our incidents where we will walk away with much improved policy. since we're losing the first week of july, i would like to postpone until july first so we can get as much as community input as possible, if that's okay, that's something that would allow us to expand the community process. and the other update i have, i did meet once again with some of the folks at the referral center. i'm still preparing to launch

the prebooking program. and i have one specific question for you chief, when we get to the point of beginning to initial the process, i know this has been a process that has taken place for over a year as far as figuring out what the mechanics and the community entity and the department to enact and initial a prebook program. are we prepared to devote the natural resources as far as staffing to be able to begin that process once we get to that place where we're ready to launch this program? >> yes we've had some talk about what that would look like. depending on what type of fence.

it's a pretty small population of offenders. just based on the sites. so i'm actually getting more data from chief miller from juvenile probation so we can know exactly at least year to date and as much as you can provide. right now it's a small universe so i do think that will allow us the ability to get this off the ground. we're still in discussion of what that will look like. we'll be prepared. >> i do intend as i mentioned last week, put together a resolution to initiate the process.

if we don't prioritize, i know our community partners are interested in launching this, from my understanding, chief miller is in support of us going in this direction so i'm hoping that those conversations continue to happen and we can launch this as soon as possible. i think that the july department on this update? >> we can present this as far as where we are with it. i don't anticipate that we'll be launching. >> great. and on another note, i you know, consider it and i want to thank you and the department for the responses.

that's a coverage responded within four minutes, i understand four minutes and contained the situation. i really want to send my appreciation. i know you were up late at night making sure that communication was clarified examine contained. and it lead me to start thinking about at some point last year, we had a presentation around community policing plans. and i really feel that considering the increase and shootings and gun violence this year and incident of violence this year, it would be a great opportunity for us to have a presentation about what the community engagement division is doing to to create more relationships to get young people into services and treatment.

to really improve our relationship with the communities that we serve. >> sergeant? >> for members of the public that would like to make public comment. please approach the podium. >> and there is no public comment. >> next item please. >> line item 1. discussion pride alliance on sfpd pride patches, discussion? sergeant winters? >> hello welcome, thank you so much for coming. >> thank you, president elias, vice president oberstone and chief scott and director anderson. i know some of the commission were not in the commission when

this was approved back in 2019. i want to give an overview how the pride patch came about and the impact it has had here and around the country. and also san francisco pride alliance in support of chief scott. so next slide. so pride alliance, the purpose is public employee group. we're not a union but we advocate for lgbtq members. anyone who knows, histories knows that once about a time somebody like me a trans women could not serve openly much less get hired. so advocate for members continue to go ensure that we, are out there in the community attracting members of our lgbtq community to this profession.

i believe we need a police forced to build relationship within the city. that's part of the proud alliance. we also work collaboratively with the department on policies which impact lgbtq community. over the years some of those have been the san francisco police department lead the way on our policy, around interacting the transgender and non binary individuals, i still get inquiries from around the country that want to mirror our policy. so it's at the collaboration that we can guide policies that help ensuring that policing is more equitable with lgbtq. and we work with officers for justice, going back to trying to advocate for our officers and recruited workforce. part of that collaboration just an example a few years ago, we

actually, all of the, the peg groups as they're known met with the director of dhr we had concerns and questions to understand the eao process, how that process went. so, collaborative we work with dhr to create more transparency for our members. and then we meet with the chief monthly to discuss issues that affect our members and the lgbtq. next slide. so the pride patch was initialed in 2019, officer patulia who was suppose to be but he had to stay and help serve our city. it was support and champion by chief scott, thank you chief. and create not only a bridge to

gap between lgbtq community and sfpd but also to benefit lgbtq community organizations. 2019, the commission approved the wearing of the patch, thank you. and we became the first law enforcement country in the nation to authorize officers to wear a pride patch during pride month. so really sfpd really leading the way. local impact of the pride patch project, since 2019, we raised over 19,000, we've raised 19,000 in our first year. that was first year alone. and our inaugural was street use. so we're able to present them for with a check for $19,000 to help some of the most marginized members of the community our youth, kicked out by their families and come to san francisco to find a chosen

family and larkinstreet helps them and we were able to directly benefit them. program to date, we raised over $30,000. the most resent castro country club, which is services to lgbtq members and lgbtq community. and also, lance was honored by the board of supervisors for this ground break project. national impacts department around the country are authorized the wearing of the pride patch. it's increased awareness, officers in law enforcement, and departments around the country continue to use sfpd as a leader, not only around policy reform but on our lgbtq policies. they serve as a framework for a lot of departments. if you look at the patches, it's coast to coast, east coast, west coast, middle of

the country, even florida, there is departments in florida that have adopted pride patches. you know, i see this as a huge benefit. when we're out on the streets, when we wear a pride patch, it's a conversation starter a lot of times. people realize, like, you know, they can be seen because a lot of folks don't realize, there are still cities and communities in this country where people from the lgbtq community don't feel safe going into law enforcement and there are some communities where it's not safe and when they come here, we want them to see that here in san francisco, they are safe coming to us. that we are here to protect, that they see them. we have members to meet them where they're at and the pride patch is part of that. and the future pride alliance, the last couple of years have

been exciting. last year was the first year pride alliance partnered with the other public safety agencies in the city. we're continuing that and we're going to expand our representation to the sheriff and the police department. because we want to ensure no matter what part of the public safety, lgbtq, people in the city meet, that they that those departments are prepared to help them, whether it's policies, training, we want to ensure all public safety on the same page when it comes to helping the lgbtq community. and also representing lgbtq departments in all of those departments. going into our next fiscal year, we're going to work on the pride alliance umbrella. and so i just want to thank you for pride alliance board.

thank you for your support of the pride patch package. the fact that we've been able to make an impact, means a lot, means a lot to me. means a lot to our members. >> thank you again for coming. one of the things that i ask is that you send us the link so we can donate to the cause. i'm the only member of this commission that was here in 2019 to be able to get the patches and the shirt. and we had to modify >> so make sure that you give us the link so we can spread the word and get people to donate to this amazing cause. >> thank you, and i did bring

swag, commissioner walker asked that i bring some swag so i did bring some. so if anybody wants to purchase smig tonight with the caveat, our shirts got delayed so they're going to be here in a day or two. and if you're out in the pride parade on sunday, we'll have our new shirts at the event which have the new pride alliance logo in the back and sfpd in the back and the progress pride colors. >> great. you already got your free stuff, you're done? >> i don't know where it went. >> thank you so much. thank you for the work you do. i was just coming on board last year at this time and we had a really, emotional community conversation describing exactly what people have to go through, you know.

the community here and you were amazing, representing the lgbtq folks to march in the pride parade. and as a result, umared and you know, it's, it's the situation that a loted of us come here because we're not accepted in other places and that was especially painful for a lot of us going through that conversation. so i just want to applaud you for the work you did on that. and i want to applaud the pride, the pride organization for really being inclusive and supporting our police especially the pride alliance. and if you allow commissioners, i would be honored to join the pride alliance. >> absolutely. >> and i do want swag.

>> you definitely want swag. >> i'm marching. >> and t-shirt. >> exactly. thank you, thank you and thank you all for the work you do and thank you chief for being so supportive and the department. so we need our allies. >> absolutely. and the chief has been a tremendous. >> i understand and we really appreciate it. >> thank you. i just want to also say thank you, sergeant winters who is an extra leader in this and other--extraordinary leader. and the board then and now, always really standing up for what is right. and elevating issues that need to be addressed. and also the community engagement component. you all do a tremendous amount of work.

you help us and walk together in the parade and that was thanks to your work. so the community engagement, i want to highs light that as well. i know this is about representation and inclusiveness and all, there is a lot of groundwork being done to put this department in a better position in terms of the relationship, and that's in large part due to you all, thank you, thank you for your leadership. >> thank you, chief. >> vice president carter-oberstone. >> thank you sergeant winters, i was one of the commissioners that waunz here. i appreciate the history and context and wanted to thank you so much for your service and for your work in the issue. i think the pride patch is unmitigated good, you raised money for an important cause and it's a it's a relatively small thing that sends a big message.

to the community about what the department's values are. i'm really glad that i got to learn more about this today. >> thank you, vice president. >> for members of the public that would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. >> next item please. >> line item 8, any public comment on closed session, vote whether to hold item 10 in closed session. if you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item 9, vote on whether to hold item 10 in closed session. action. >> can i get a motion? vice president? >> motion. >> i'll second. >> thank you.

>> on the motion commissioner waker how do you vote? >> walker? >> yes. >> commissioner walker is yes. commissioner yanez. >> yes. >> commissioner byrne. >> yes. >> vice president carter oberstone. >> yes. >> and president elias. >> yes. >> line item 11, vote to elect whether to hold disclose any information or assert the attorney-client privilege. action. >> can i get a motion. >> motion not to disclose. >> second. >> on the motion, commissionr walker >> yes. >> commissioner yanez. >> yes. >> commissioner byrne. >> yes. >> vice president carter oberstone. >> yes. >> and president elias. >> yes. >> you have five yeses. line item 12, adjournment.

s going 90 charlie. go ahead. we moved to san francisco in 1982.

we came from the philippines. i have three kids nathan, jessica and iva. i was really young. when i had neat, i turned 19. and then two weeks later, he was born. so when he was fine, i used to watch cops all the time. all the time and so he would watch with me. he had his little handcuffs and his little toy walkie talkie. and then whenever the theme song came on, he would walk around and he just thought he was the baddest little thing. i think he was in kindergarten at sheridan because he and i attended the same elementary school there was an officer bill. he would just be like mom officer bill was there then one day, he said, mom, i touched his gun. and he was just so happy about it. everything happened at five minutes. i would say everything. happened at 4 to 5 years old. it's like one of those goals to where you just

you can't you can't just let go. high school. i think you know everybody kind of strays. he was just riding the wave. and i mean, he graduated. thank god. one day i think he was about 20 or 21. he told me, he said mom. i want to be a cop or a firefighter, i said. no you're going to be a firefighter. but that's really not what he wanted to do. his words were i want to make a difference. and that was a really proud moment for me when he said that my dad was a cop in the philippines for 20 years. i think a lot of that played a role into his becoming a cop. my dad was really happy about it. my mom. she was kind of worried, but i just figured i can't stop him. he can make his own decisions. stu. i just want

to say what's up? how you doing? good. good. no i'm trying to look good for us to looking good for us to so when he was in the police academy, mind you this kid was not a very studious kid. but i've never seen him want something so bad when he was home. he'd be in his room studying the codes. he really fought for it. hi. what's your name? i'm nate. nate is great with kids, and he would give them hugs or give them stickers. i think that that's a positive influence on the kids, and then the people around you see it. once he makes that connection with people and they trust him that foundation that respect people look at you and see your actions more than your words and so that i think will reach people more than anything. you

could say you later, brother. thank you. all right, see you. it's a really hard job. i know you. you see a lot of the negative for me. i would not put myself through that if i didn't care. you know, you have to be the right kind of person. you have to have the right heart to want to do that. when people ask me if you know what my son does , um, i just tell him he's a cop , and i just feel like i'm beaming with pride. i always told him when he was young that he would do something great. and so to see it. it's i have a moment. i'm very proud of him.

>> this is a huge catalyst for change. >> it will be over 530,000 gross square feet plus two levels of basement. >> now the departments are across so many locations it is hard for them to work together and collaborate and hard for the customers to figure out the different locations and hours of

operation. >> one of the main drivers is a one stopper mitt center for -- permit center. >> special events. we are a one stop shop for those three things. >> this has many different uses throughout if years. >> in 1940s it was coca-cola and the flagship as part of the construction project we are retaining the clock tower. the permit center is little working closely with the digital services team on how can we modernize and move away from the paper we use right now to move to a more digital world. >> the digital services team was created in 2017. it is 2.5 years. our job is to make it possible to get things done with the city online. >> one of the reasons permitting is so difficult in this city and county is really about the

scale. we have 58 different department in the city and 18 of them involve permitting. >> we are expecting the residents to understand how the departments are structured to navigate through the permitting processes. it is difficult and we have heard that from many people we interviewed. our goal is you don't have to know the department. you are dealing with the city. >> now if you are trying to get construction or special events permit you might go to 13 locations to get the permit. here we are taking 13 locations into one floor of one location which is a huge improvement for the customer and staff trying to work together to make it easy to comply with the rules. >> there are more than 300 permitting processes in the city. there is a huge to do list that we are possessing digital. the first project is allowing

people to apply online for the a.d.u. it is an accessory dwelling unit, away for people to add extra living space to their home, to convert a garage or add something to the back of the house. it is a very complicated permit. you have to speak to different departments to get it approved. we are trying to consolidate to one easy to due process. some of the next ones are windows and roofing. those are high volume permits. they are simple to issue. another one is restaurant permitting. while the overall volume is lower it is long and complicated business process. people struggle to open restaurants because the permitting process is hard to navigate. >> the city is going to roll out a digital curing system one that is being tested. >> when people arrive they

canshay what they are here to. it helps them workout which cue they neat to be in. if they rant to run anker rapid she can do that. we say you are next in line make sure you are back ready for your appointment. >> we want it all-in-one location across the many departments involved. it is clear where customers go to play. >> on june 5, 2019 the ceremony was held to celebrate the placement of the last beam on top of the structures. six months later construction is complete. >> we will be moving next summer. >> the flu building -- the new building will be building. it was designed with light in mind. employees will appreciate these amenities. >> solar panels on the roof, electric vehicle chargers in the basement levels, benefiting from

gray watery use and secured bicycle parking for 300 bicycles. when you are on the higher floors of the building you might catch the tip of the golden gate bridge on a clear day and good view of soma. >> it is so exciting for the team. it is a fiscal manifestation what we are trying to do. it is allowing the different departments to come together to issue permits to the residents. we hope people can digitally come to one website for permits. we are trying to make it digital so when they come into the center they have a high-quality interaction with experts to guide then rather than filling

in forms. they will have good conversations with our staff. or

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comment by pressing start three to be added to the queue. good afternoon. my name is terry feel, um i'm an artist. i'm french. maybe you know me. maybe you don't. i'm not fully prepared that i thought it was important now for me to address this committee, right? basically . we are living through amazing times. i think we agree with that. what's amazing about it is to now be able to raise our level of consciousness awareness. everything that's pushed on us. to summarize it. if we want to know how to end humanity. we get it. it's exactly what's going on. on

every side. the whole spectrum. the push technology, the manipulation of science. the all thing the lies lies the cover ups. it's crazy, but it's a chance for us to realize if we want humanity to end. we've got it. responsibility now. full awareness. the goal. it's a mission. i'm on them. look, it's the way it is. the goal is happiness for everybody. we have to wake up. this is going to be the answer. i don't know how long we have to be aware of that. thanks a lot for your attention. thank you. no callers online. okay? then please call the next item on the agenda calling line item two adoption

of minutes. action item. review and approve the minutes from the shares department oversight board regular meeting held on april 7th 2023 and the community meetings held on april 11th 2023 and april 21st 2023. do you have any public comment on this item? for members of the public would like to make public comment for line item to if you are present, please line up at the podium otherwise, for those watching remotely, please call the general number and used access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts to be added to the queue. there appears to be no public comment. is there any discussion or motion on regarding this item? i moved that three sets of minutes be proved. i second. now we will take the vote for that line item

two. member brooke ter. victor is i present vice president carry on. carry on his eye member su i to his eye president sector. i what? there is i. the motion passes the minutes from the regular meeting held on april 7th in the community meetings of april 11th and april 21st. meetings are adopted. next time on the agenda, please. calling light item three recruitment of inspector general discussion and possible action item. ddr dhr will appear to give updates on responses did a job postings and answer any questions? there will be a presentation by danielle butler happy entering the executive director of los angeles sheriff civilian oversight commission. a presentation by max huntsman. inspector general los angeles county sheriff's civilian oversight commission. we can discuss letters from max huntsman and email from nationalists alice further

discussion by the board members on the recruitment process, discuss april community meetings and upcoming june community meeting. and do we have miss happy and mr huntsman ready? hi. yes, we're ready. thank you. thank you so much for joining us and taking time out of your day. we very much appreciate it. absolutely. could you, uh, each of when you start, please introduce yourselves. absolutely am i first met. okay i think someone has my power point that they were going to put up for me. while we're waiting for that i'll introduce myself. good afternoon, everyone and thank you for inviting me to share a little about our los angeles county sheriff civilian oversight commission today. my name is danielle butler boppy and i am the interim executive

director of the civilian oversight commission. i've been in this capacity for since march . and prior to that i was counsel for the commission. and then i'll get started as soon as . okay perfect. if we could go to the next slide okay and next slide. okay so the los angeles county board of supervisors approved the creation of our commission back in december of 2014. and then they proceeded to create the ordinance in 2016, and in november of 2016. they appointed the nine commissioners that serve on the commission. the commission provides oversight for the sheriff's department. which is the nation's largest sheriff's department with approximately 18,000 employees. it's been in existence for more than 150 years and prior to 2016 had no oversight. or at least civilian

oversight. i should say. um. l a county is the nation's largest county by population and provide services over 10 million residents. and the sheriff's department services, those residents and 42 incorporated cities and 142 incorporated cities in 141 unincorporated cities, and they also provide the housing and transportation for approximately 18,000 persons within the carcerano system. um the l. a county jails next slide. the vision of the civilian oversight commission is the performance duties through impartial and transparent and it's uh, impartial and transparent manner and to facilitate transparency and accountability within the department are commission members and staff. we review and analyze the sheriff department's policies, practices and procedures, and our goal is to

be providing, um not only the board, but the department and the public with plans of actions based on the public engagement that we do. next slide. the commission has over the years broken down its progress into three areas of impact. there are cause our actions and our impact. um, we're here to help protect civil rights of our citizens support effective 21st century policing and increased confidence in the justice system. with the public to do that we provide opportunities for community engagement through town halls. we analyze the issues and recommend solutions to these issues again to the board and to the department itself. in turn, we hope to make a difference in our community and create, uh, helped to create greater transparency and accountability with the department. next slide. our

commission is set up. we are not underneath the sheriff department sheriff's department we report up through the executive office of the board of supervisors, which ultimately reports to the board. um we have a full time staff of eight. eight staff members, which include analysts, a paralegal. community information officer and myself and our commission does not employ any investigators or inspectors. we work closely with, uh max huntsman's office are inspector general. um and they are aligned with us in the organizational chart in are also not underneath the sheriff's department. next slide. most of the work and the action of our commission lies on the nine civilian volunteers who have been appointed by the board of supervisors. uh and our staffs provide support to feel the commission's request. the commissioners have diverse

backgrounds. we have several attorneys, including former prosecutors, public defenders of former federal judge a retired sheriff's department lieutenant. an executive from a non profit organization. and a mental health professional, so vast areas of expertise and our commissioners rely heavily on the reports that are produced by our office of inspector general. next slide. much of the work of our commission is done through our ad hoc committees where since we are a brown egg body, we work through the ad hoc committees and our commissioners , um, usually get involved where they're very passionate. and so you can see. these are some of the ones that we are currently working on. um deputy gangs use of force. conditions of confinement where we have just recently had a series on l. a county jails. and depending on

what the ad hocks are working on , they bring the issue to the commission. we sometimes request the office of inspector general to dive deeper into the issues and report back to the commission. um and that's how much of our work is done. next slide. as you can see, if you look at our website, uh, all of we direct all of our complaints to the inspector general's office. in our ordinance, it specifically states that our commission is to investigate through the office of inspector general. our staff does some initial investigation and analyzation of issues, but most of the real investigation is done by the inspector general's office because they have the team investigators to do so. next slide. commission has offered a variety of reports. uh

just recently in february, our commission who has been doing a special investigation into deputy gangs, we released a report with 27 recommendations to the department to eradicate deputy gangs. we've also addressed issues of mental health evaluation to our mental evaluation teams. um and many of our reports, uh, you can find on our website we many of these efforts have also been done in conjunction and with the help of the office of inspector general, including the monitoring of body worn cameras, the family assistance program and jail conditions. next slide. in addition to the recommendations that come directly from our commission, we have staff who are currently monitoring the issues that we bring to the commission and those in our communities include the issue of street takeovers, deputies and health facilities, bail reform efforts, among other things. next slide. our strategic

priorities continue to adjust with the cause of the community. we, um usually have a strategic plan, but we do adjust and adapt to the cause of the community and things that they would like to bring issue to, um, like the issue of deputies in school, which is a very complex issue that we are working on right now, um, we recently had the o i g to present one of their reports to the commission about the disproportionality. um that is happening in some of our school districts in regards to school resource deputies, so it's an issue that the commissioner studying right now we also look into systematic issues of the department related to hiring discipline and use of force reform. next slide. and we do this work through our the actions that are taken by the

commission at our meetings, which are held monthly open to the public in 2022. we also had a series of seven special meetings to hear witness testimony about deputy gangs in the los angeles county sheriff's department. at every meeting. we have, uh, representative from the o i. g s office, the office of inspector general, either mr huntsman himself or his chief deputy, darryl williams. um and they are usually able to speak to some of the complaints that the public has filed. next slide. we prioritize community engagement. it's one of the ways that we determine how we're going to do our work and we work to ensure that the communities informed about our work through informational tables at various events. we also host a variety of community meetings like town halls and educational conferences to bring light to issues that the community has shared concerns about. we also

have our commissioners who, um, on an individual basis, they reach out and touch base where community members and various groups. we also use our social social media to provide announcement post our agendas, call for community feedback and promote reports that the commission has written. next slide. our commission members and staff actively participate in nicole, um. and our team this year, uh, will be involved in four sessions. and this is another way that we you know? engage in what's happening in this community. um and we'll be presenting as i said this year at nicole for sessions for our office next slide. we also host and annual community policing conference and collaboration with the human relations

commission and the department of public health office of violence prevention. we haven't had it for a couple of years due to covid, but we do hope to reinstate it this year, and that brings together um more law enforcement officials, activists , community members and local leaders where we discussed the challenges and trends and future of community policing in the county. next slide. mhm and you can visit our website or visit us on our social media at l. a county coc or coc dot l. a county. and that's it for me, max. hello i'm max huntsman on the inspector general for los angeles county, and i'm not going to give an extensive presentation because i think daniel did a good job of presenting to you. how oversight works in los angeles county. i think not wildly. unlike your commission. the inspector general's office, though, is

more of an investigative body. we do a variety of investigative type activities ranging from what i would call monitoring where we go into jails and simply observe the conditions there. speak to two prisoners in the jail, speak to staff. and as well as the supplementary staff that you'll find in any jail, medical, mental health and other professionals. and so we so we to be aware there are issues arising and address them immediately. if we can we also do investigation based on information brought to our attention over the years we've done a lot of different kinds of work and in our jails are sheriff does more than just jails, but i know that's what's analogous to. what's your sheriff does here? we did a number of investigations relating to immigrant issues when that was a particularly um high profile issue because of conflict with the federal government currently in l. a. that's less of an issue because we are not interacting with ice . but when we were we had to

follow the provisions of california law. focus of our of our office, of course, is compliance with law. we also serve as the preah auditor of prison rape elimination act. as i'm sure you're aware, uh state and local bodies need to come into compliance with those provisions for custody operations. and so a multi year multi decade process and we do the auditing in order to assess the standard of the sheriff's department in los angeles were not in compliance yet think not too many places are but but we're working with the department in that process, and then we do more systemic related matters. as daniel mentioned, we've done statistical analyses relating to discrimination or dispirit impact on minority communities based on sheriff actions out in the street as well as in custody, so that's the different kinds of work we've done. my office has existed since 2013 ah, 2014

really, and we prior to that the los angeles had a different version of oversight us. as daniel said civilian number site if you want to refer to the equivalent of what you are is pretty new in los angeles, but we've had some method of having the board of supervisors keep an eye on the conduct of the sheriff. as you know, that's required by the government code and in recent years the law behind inspectors general has become enhanced because of problems in los angeles as well. sacramento and other places there has been an expansion to inspector general powers providing for subpoena power. and just recently sp two regarding certification of peace officers has granted us additional authority. as well as daniel mitch, and there's a gang issue in los angeles and we've been given authority under that statute to investigate and are in the process of working on that. so the inspector general's office in los angeles serves

many different functions. we have 30 some staff actively working we that includes lawyers , former peace officers, accountants. variety of different sorts of skill sets that allow us to analyze and collect information regarding shares activities. we report that out on our website or i g dot l a county dot gov. if you want to look at it as reports we've done over the years current and past and, uh that sort of summarizes our operation . in a nutshell. i realized what you're working on here is a would be a different thing because you have a very different terrain and every law enforcement agency it needs a different i think needs a different kind of oversight, depending on the circumstances surrounding it, because what it's all really about is essentially civilian control of the armed forces. you need to have folks without badges and guns. keeping an eye on how people with badges and guns behave so that we remain a democratic country, because if you pass laws, but then you don't enforce them in a democratic ways, and you don't

really have a democracy. i don't believe so what? the work that you're doing here and the work that danielle and the commission do down in los angeles, which we supplement through investigative services. i think it is very, very important and i'm happy to answer any questions anybody has about. our process that might help you with your process. thank you very much. and i will that your los angeles the los angeles matter was one that supervisor walton look to and conferred with when he drafted the charter amendment that created the oversight board and our office of inspector general do members of the board have questions? yes um, first, i'd like to say thank you so much. executive director butler of api as well as inspector general huntsman, i recognize that you are probably incredibly busy and we appreciate the time and effort that you've come in preparing the presentation and being here with us today. um so we are in our process of hiring r i g. this is a creation of our new department. um what are some

of the initial challenges now in reflection? 2020 hindsight that you think you would advise us to keep in mind of highlighting when hiring and inspector general as well as creating this department? how i guess i'll address that first. we must daniel has something else to add. but obviously it's a lot of factors at play, and i think each place is unique when you reach out in trying to get any kind of person to serve in any capacity in government. uh, you need to find good people. so you gotta put enough money on the table. you got to make the job interesting so that people will want to come, which i think in this field means the person who comes has to feel like they have a chance to make a difference. it's not just intellectually stimulating, but also the most of the people in our fields want to improve law enforcement functions? and they will come if

they think they have a chance to do that. we're not generally a group driven primarily by pay, although i think pay is important in order to get a long term, stable relationship, so i think those are both important independence is very important. you need somebody with the right skill set for what? you what you want to do and what that skill set is. tends very much on what results you want. um as a case in point, i'm an odd example in los angeles because there was a prior process in place before me that didn't function the way the carry valley wanted. i was brought in partly because i was a corruption prosecutor and then our sheriff ended up putting me under criminal investigation, and that was an important characteristic of mine that i was able to stand up to that and continue on. despite the challenges we had that's unique to los angeles and our situation. i hope i hope it's not something you face here and you might seek a different skill

set depending on what you're trying to accomplish, and i think it's important to have an independent person. a person with some kind of, um integrity and sort of little bit of ah um , willingness to do what they think is right, despite the consequences, but that can take different forms. and then finally, i think having a good staff is very important. you need to look at what skill set the people you're going to have working around this person are what numbers they'll have, how much they'll be paid again because it translates to especially when you're not talking about the top person who might come just you know, because they want the challenge. would you work into public servants at a lower level? you kind of need to put a reasonable amount of pay on the table. otherwise, people will feel i'm loved, i guess is the best way to put it not again. not the public service are primarily about money, but but it's important. so i think if you combine those things together, that's the main focus of what you want to look for. lot of

other issues. you're bound now by your charter provisions, but i think you need to consider what tools you give to the people involved and what results you want to get. and then finally, you all need to get to one sort of uniform place about what you want to see if you don't agree, and you're fighting when you create the office. i guarantee you as time goes forward, you're going to fight over what happens with the office and that will be detrimental to getting a good result. thank you so much. other questions. yes, i have other questions. thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. um i was just looking and this is not something that either of you had control over, but i was looking at the makeup of that commission, and it doesn't seem to reflect the diversity of los angeles on our particular board . we have myself and, um board member lubango representing the api communities, um so i'm just wondering, um, how you address

the diversity issues and also in san francisco. we have, um, a language ordinance requiring interpreters and written materials. um for those who are not english proficient, and so i wanted to see. from the inspector general side in terms of the investigators. um the language, um, capabilities as well as on the commission side. thank you. well, daniel, go ahead. i'll go for the commission. um, i agree with you, i think that that is an issue that we have been looking at in terms of the community appointees. we have nine commissioners five or board appointed so each, um, member gets an appointee. and then the community members. there is a process and a procedure and we have tried to refine that procedure so that we can do a better job of making sure we uh

, select we present to the board. community members that are diverse, including those that are systems involved, or or family members of those who are systems involved. we have another commission, the prohibition oversight commission , and they have that in their ordinance, and their commission is a little bit more reflective of the diversity in los angeles. so that is something that our commission is continuing to work on an address. and since daniel didn't cover all address the language issue yes, that's important. and in our public hearings, i know the commission. works hard to communicate with the different groups that interact in los angeles like san francisco, we have a wide variety of different languages spoken, so their staff work hard at that. my staff also we communicate with whoever comes to complain to us. and so we can use trans translators when necessary within the county of

los angeles within government service. we when we hire we hire within our civil service process , so there's certainly um methods in place to try to ensure diversity. there are also, uh preferential treatment given for skill sets, including extra pay for second languages and whatnot. but it's always a challenge both in terms of the language issue and then also in terms of the representation, as daniel said, for the commission's because the way ours were structured, the desire to have it be balanced in between what people might describe as throw police anti police, which i think is an incorrect way to look at it. but it's a way a lens that people always do. it was very important to establish different voices in terms of versatility, diversity separate from racial diversity or language. diversity has mentioned and i think that pushed a little bit initial creation as daniel alluded to some of the positions were

appointed directly by individual supervisors, and so that caused a breakdown that was similar to the political landscape of los angeles at the time, but not as good for making sure that you have a complete good mix of diversity. and then a portion of that commission are appointed through a process that i think is a little better at that. but it's already behind the eight ball because you've got five selected to a different process and then for selected through a more holistic process, so i think it's a bit of a challenge. and i hope that you all, um it when you get the opportunity with your commission to make any changes you might make in the future. consider that as as something you can possibly improved through the structures that you have in place of how you select commissioners. that's i think that's very important in terms of like i said with an inspector general's office aside from the selecting the person that somebody who you think represents the viewpoints and diversity of your city, if you can't find an appropriate person hard to do in one person, but

but if you can do that, that's good. but then, of course within the staff as well, that's an important thing to keep an eye on. but but it's hard in as i think anybody who's worked in government services would see. and as i say, a lot of our reports deal with racial disparities and so we always find them cropping up even when people are well meaning they don't always succeed. and then i had one other question on budgetary. um and i dare i say budgetary constraints now, i think statewide and as well as every 58 counties in california , we're facing a budget crisis, so i guess more well, maybe for the both of you, um in terms of just establishing an office from scratched. what are the priorities given, um, a tight budget. i don't know again. i'll jump in on this, and daniel can add in my created or office or at least i was present when it was created. i didn't get to just do it myself. and one thing i would recommend is whatever

pile of money you've got. you're going to want to have lots of people in your office. so you're going to say oh, let's let's lower the pay and have more people and i strongly recommend against that. i think you're going to find over time that you need qualified skilled people, and that means paying more. so whatever pile of money. you decide you're going to devote to this problem. i suggest that you try to make it a slightly smaller number of people who were paid more because you'll get a higher skill set there. exceptions to that. there's a process and inspection process where you can work with. a different skill set, but but for a lot of the analysis work that is really critical to this. and even when you're talking about just inspections you ultimately need to analyze and then present to the public or to a commission or board. uh findings and conclusions you really knew need skilled people for that, so of course, it's hard and budgets are tight. but if you want to actually have oversight rather than what has been euphemistically called oversight theater when we go through the

motions, but we're not really making a difference. uh you get it costs money, which is, i think why it's such a challenge. so many places in los angeles is very fortunate in a way that were so large so we can have different parts of this puzzle operating in a way that's cost effective. when you're smaller as san francisco is, i realize it's more of a challenge, and i don't really have a solution for making money grow on trees. unfortunately, thank you. i have a few questions. um ah, director , executive director daniel vap e. thank you so much for your time and including matt hunter hunts. max huntsman. director general. um, first off. i just wanted to say that i, uh, definitely admire the, uh, working effort that you're board has done so far since 2016. it's amazing the fact that you guys have your community outreach and your strategic priorities and ad

hoc committees all pretty much lined up. um just living here in san francisco. i know i can easily find out what your team has worked on what policies have been passed and haven't passed so just kudos to your team. um the few questions that i had was one. how did you solicit community outreach with the inspector general hiring process? and then second, um. and i realized that will need to hire an inspector general for this happened. but do you guys request does aboard request that's from the inspector general team. like what kind of complaints come into the, um to their team, and how do they kind of filter through that? and then the last one is more logistical . it's really just about the tech piece, but i'll save that one after the first to have been answered. i'm going to throw it to max. because next doesn't work under our office. i'm sorry

, mr huntsman doesn't work under our office. uh they are a separate division under the executive office of the board. so mr huntsman does not report to me. okay we were so we're set up a little bit differently than your than you guys intend to be set up. the inspector general is its own body are civilian oversight commission is its own body. um, we work very closely together, but we are separate. and so we didn't. we don't have any control over their hiring or the hiring of the inspector general would hire max again, but so i'll throw that question to him. and uh, they hired me when they created the office, and they haven't had a chance to hire money anybody else yet? so we'll find out how good they are getting community input when they get around to that, so it's a challenge and it's a it's a problem. it's certainly been a problem with selecting commissioners, danielle is now has replaced a executive

director who moved out and is in that place and they're going through a process of deciding long term who they're going to have as the inspector excuse me, the executive director, and as far as i know, there hasn't been a lot of community input into that. i think a little bit. i think there's been some reaching out and getting information. but the process isn't built to really allow that because i can't speak for san francisco but in los angeles we have a little as i mentioned. we have a lot of civil service rules, a lot of rules about the hiring process and because we are such a large bureaucracy with, um at will leaders on top of it, that a lot of the way we hire the leadership is set. by the way we hire our general, um, workforce and so it's not the wide open community involvement kind of process, which i think we often think could be better for certainly for a commission where you're trying to interact with the public. and as daniel mentioned, we have a strong desire for more justice

involved, um commissioners. but but that didn't happen when the civilian oversight commission was created, and there's reasons why it would be a challenge as i'm sure you're aware and the work you do. we recently created a probation oversight commission . more recently, i should say not too recently and in that one. we have more justice involved people, i think, because the board of supervisors became more comfortable with the things you're talking about the involvement of the public and in a selection process. the involvement of people who have had negative experiences with law enforcement in the process of overseeing law enforcement, so it's i think there's been a broadening of the sort of vision of how it can be done over time. but when i was hired there was no public input to speak up. there was a firm that did some search and couldn't find anybody and then the special counsel to the board. in some of the scandals. we had kind of reached out and found different people, and then the board did it themselves. and that tends to be how hiring is done in los angeles county for the top level positions, so i wish it was the

way you say, but it is not that way and i don't think it will become that way anytime soon. i forgot the other question, though. oh yeah. the other question was. well maybe this is , um you guys just clarified this, but it seems like your team works in parallel, but you guys don't report into each other. so as i understand it the strategic priorities. the board, um, creates those separately from your office. um. mr huntsman? yeah that that was the board, of course, runs the county and we both daniel and i both work in the executive office, which reports straight to the board. so the board is our boss in theory, but when your boss is five people and they have to meet publicly to vote, they don't give you a lot of specific direction, so my office operates very independently. we have a set of, uh goals and criteria that that we follow that was set by the board. and we do, uh, the bidding of the board when they

when they tell us what they want, so they'll they'll issue emotions sometimes and say, do a report on this and we will and the commission as well. we'll say, hey, we want to investigate laws, enforcement gangs or whatever issue and ask us to do that, and we do it. on paper. they supervise us as to the work we do, but in function, we're pretty independent and there it's more like there are customer than our boss, and it's kind of the same way with the board as well. although they are our boss. it's more of like a customer relationship where we seek to give them what they're looking for again because of the fact that there are brown act body with five members. who meet revoting. you want to keep them all happy rather than one individual board and so you try to provide all the information they want. so you ask about statistics and information? yes we do a quarterly report. and if you want to know about that you can look on our website and you'll see our quarterly reports and you'll see the kind of information that's in there. if you look back to close to 10 years ago when we started doing it not the same information, and

that's in large part because of feedback. we've gotten from board offices about what they want to see your feedback from the commission about what they want to see or feedback from the public about questions they have will issue a report. a bunch of questions will come in, and so we'll supplement it with additional information in the next report. nice thank you so much. so not exactly apples to apples, but maybe like apples to oranges. um, okay. last piece was more logistical. but the tech piece who the website and like the facebook pages and all of that. is that currently like one of your board members. are they in charge of that? or is that something that you guys hired like? did you guys hire a staff member to kind of um i don't know, like create those websites at the commission. we have, um eight staff members and one of our staff members is our community information officer and she handles our communications, which would be all of our social media

promoting all of our. you know, meetings and community town halls, our entire staff, though we reach out to community members who know certain staff just might have a contact with certain community based organizations, so we send those out. i also send out um if i to max's point earlier. if we communicate with the board, it's usually through one of their deputies. so i usually when we're promoting something, or we're gonna have a meeting, i send that out to one of their deputies and ask that they send it to their network. but in our office, we have one person who does that, um, because they do all of our communication, which means anything that we send out kind of runs by them. um there, you know, as active as they could be on our social media, i think, um, as you mentioned budget, i think is if the budget was expanded, we would probably that would be one of the things where we would seek additional personnel so that we were able to reach out to the community

more. thank you. yeah no. um, thank you for that. um so first and foremost want to say thank you again director butler of ap and, um, i g huntsman for being here and taking time with us today. this has been very thorough and i think very helpful for myself and our members as we continue to go through the process and one of the things that i was thinking about, and i g huntsman, you kind of brought it up. especially as we're talking about budget. we know that there's strategy and advocating that takes place for that. but being this body, there are some things that we can control. and so my question is just right around the process on how you guys came up with the ad hoc committees that you guys have. it's like as a commission are there ones that we should be thinking about as we're bringing on an i g. that could help strengthen the infrastructure. once the i g is here that we need to be looking at more so than others as we continue to prioritize some of the things that we're doing as a commission, so it was kind of

the process for these committees that you guys have i think when , um our commission usually meets at the end of the year. we sort of review. the work that we've done and we look at what's what, you know what's happening. what's going to be ongoing issues. we need to follow more closely. we usually look at some of the inspector general's reports to see if there are things in places we want to review and then we usually the ad hoc come up as our meetings. something comes up at our meeting. one of the commissioners decides they want to do emotion about it, or they want to look into it. then we form an ad hoc, obviously with less than a quorum, so for us that's usually for members or less. and then and then those bodies get to work and like for something like deputy gangs, it's been ongoing for a while because the deputy gangs have been ongoing for a while. other at hoxby form and then they may , um after we look into the

issue, and they do a report about it, we do a report about it, or we do recommendations to the border. the department than that, uh, at high committee would disperse, but it's usually based on what's going on with the department or what we hear from the community as concerns so another ongoing one is use of force because unfortunately, that remains a problem in the department. so um, that committee usually follow some some of the use of force incidents that we hear about the news. get more information either from the i g or the department directly, so that's how we form the adcox. and they change over time. yeah. okay. thank you. other questions from members of the board. so i just have one. i think final question. i know you talked a little bit about um the attributes we should be looking for, given the fact that our inspector general is going to be creating an agency that does not

exist. there will be staffed. i think, with seven investigators to supervising investigators, analysts and at least one attorney and support staff. um other particular experiences or qualifications that you think we should be looking for. for someone who will be becoming our first inspector general and creating this agency. i must. daniel may wanna she might be more objective about this, so you might want to ask her, but i'll say kind of the same answer i gave before it depends on what you want. um i have been at this job for 10 years and i have come to value management experience and knowledge much more than i did 10 years ago. so if you would ask me this question when i first began, i'd say now you what you need is somebody who has the skill set and the drive to do the work. and i think when

, when i was hired, i didn't have any staff and your person might might or might not have staff up front and that's kind of important. we were much smaller organization than even even when i had a staff, so you need your your boss to be able to do the work as well as supervised now that my place is bigger and i have a management team. i wish i was a better manager. i wish i had the skill set different than the skill set that was critical to get me through in the beginning. maybe i've learned as i've gone along, but it's you know, it's a hard thing to do. so i would say you've got to kind of balance those two interests. one is having a subject matter expert with a skill set that's going to allow them to do the work you want them to do. i can't speak to what happens in san francisco, but i can tell you in california in general and in l a. in particular we have horrible problems with overcrowding. problems with delivery of services to prisoners. horrible problems with the prison rape, eliminate nation act compliance. we've had nasty, uh, fights from our sheriff's department regarding

us just doing our job and we're not the only county that's had that that takes a certain sort of person and skill set to address if you didn't have those challenges as much if it wasn't about the expertise, then you might want an experienced bureaucratic kind of leader who was comfortable with people working together in organizing. my personal feeling. is that for the work the way you describe your office, you need somebody with a lot of subject matter expertise. but if you can get both the subject matter, expertise and a smooth talking person who knows how to get along with everybody and get their staff to work effectively and fill out performance evaluation sometime and do other things that bureaucrats have to do. then you're doing very well . and i think both those things are important. hmm but it's hard because they often conflict. and so you know, i don't have a magic bullet for how to make them both work. but danielle, who has a different sort of viewpoint on some of these

things, because of her experiences might might be able to give you some better advice. no max. i actually agree with you. i was going to say, i think you need someone who can do both. because i don't think just subject matter expertise alone. um, is what you need for someone who needs to be in that leadership position. i think i think subject matter. expertise is great. but i do think you need someone who can be a manager and not just, uh, not just, um someone who knows all about it, but unable to handle their team. so i would agree that you need someone who has both. okay, that's that's very helpful. so then, over the questions well, thank you again so much. we very much appreciate your time and your insight and your sharing your knowledge and perspective with us. and, uh, thank you. absolutely thank you for having us. thank you for the time and good luck. because good luck.

i think we. i think we now have a presentation by dhr. according to the agenda. did you? did you do public comment or is going to need to vote public comment about this? separately about the d h. r p s. i didn't mean to interrupt. sorry about that. yeah. i apologize, guys. no problem moving into the closed session without good afternoon board members, paul green from the department of human resources here of my colleague ben richie. ben will get into specifics regarding the status of the inspector general recruitment, but i just wanted to publicly acknowledge all the effort is put into secure the vendor contract to get the job

announcement posted on the various organizations that this board members identified. there was a lot of administrative hurdles to accomplish that. so i just wanted to congratulate ben again that done but also at previous meetings, we had discussed individual outreach efforts. some of the board members may conduct regarding identifying possible candidates. and so i just wanted to follow up, if you know, in order not to duplicate it efforts. if you have any documentation, or does any candidates you wanted us specifically to follow up with the help submit applications. you cannot give that information to your commission secretary and we're happy to add those two are files into any follow up that is necessary. and with that, i will turn it over to my colleague, mr ritchie. good afternoon board members. my name is benjamin ricci. i'm a senior human resources consultant with the department of human resources. for the inspector general recruitment. it is currently posted online on our website. we are accepting applicants. a current closing date is june 10th. as paul mentioned, we did

complete the posting of the announcement on a variety of websites suggested to us by the board members. those announcements are posted. we are continuing to receive applicants. they are coming in on a regular basis, and as i mentioned, the announcement will be closing on june 10th, at which point we will review the applicants that we've received and i believe our next steps after that, or to prepare lists of qualified and best qualified applicants for presentation to the board for review. approximately how many applicants are there? do we have a general estimate number? i think we're in double digits around 30 or so applicants. thank you. board members have questions. um i just wanted to say thank you so much for making everything seamless and very comprehensive and i know, especially with the vendor that required payments on some of the

websites. that was a big challenge. um, since no one's done it before, so i really appreciate it. it was my understanding that it might be extended. possibly, um passed the 10th if necessary. is that correct? that's at the discretion of the board and then in terms of ramping up for the second phase, um how do you anticipate that we do that, especially with the written questions? um, that would be around. so after we identify the candidates that meet the minimum qualifications, we can present those candidates information applications to the board, and from there, we can arrange questions that you may wish to submit to them in writing for them to respond in writing. um so i would encourage you to work on those developing those now ahead of time, so we were ready to go. we can send those out and we're happy to review those questions ahead of time and answer any questions you may have or provide feedback on that process. so yeah, but if we need to extend the announcement based

on the number of qualified applicants that you know that would be pushed out a little bit further. but yeah. thank you. and then i just wanted to highlight two my colleagues here that we do have the timeline and task benchmarks that i had prepared and then from d h. r. um, they were find that the timeline specifically for the i g hiring, so i just want to highlight that for everyone, so thank you so much for that. and thank you, commissioner for preparing that. so, um. the places where the job was originally posted. i think original list of the deadline is in may have has. oh didn't change to show that its applications are still being accepted. yes, the current posting that's live on our website does not have, uh, does not have we remove that may due date and so there is the due dates not posted on the website. currently i'm talking about some of the other websites, some of the other professional organizations. um i believe

they're all updated. we did catch one and asked them to update that announcement. the other ones. i believe they were , uh, the updated announcement is posted. i know the announcement just went up a day or two ago on the nicole website , and that would have erroneously says applications accepted until position is filled rather than giving a specific date, so i think it would be worthwhile to extend it so that and get that fixed. so it does list the specific date because i think that's where we're likely to get a large number of applications. from people in the oversight community. i think the only question i had was, if we think that there's a possibility that we might want and or need an extension from the dhr side, do we think that we would be able to clear those hurdles that maybe we're in the beginning that we're already kind of

forecasting and thinking about if we potentially do need to push things out. yes i think it would go much faster this time. i'm just i'm specifically speaking like on the vendor side, right if we had to pay an additional month to get keep things. yeah, i mean, there will be, i assume will be additional fees if we have to post it longer, but the vendors already been secured now and that was the major roadblock, so it should be a lot faster. and just to add when we moved to close session, you'll have a more specific update on the number of qualified applicants, and that will help lead the discussion if the extended or not. and so if we do want to extend the deadline do we need to take a vote on that. is that what you're saying? yeah ok, you're city attorney. have a question. maybe this is more so for julie for the timeline for july, noticing the additional 20 hours of training is that required or is that kind of optional depending on we originally when

we were on board? i understood that we were gonna get 80 outers 80 hours of training, so we were only trained for 20 hours, and that was what was available in the budget. so um, i expect that we're going to have ongoing training. so that's just why i put it in there because we hadn't had training in a while. it's been a year over a year. alright okay, that's not related to the shares. the timeline that i put was just overview of what we should be doing at as a board . i think for the entire year and to remind us that we have our quarterly reports. annual reports got it. got it. um, the shorter one was specifically to hiring the i g and refined by, um the human resources department. this is very helpful. thank you. yes i know you would ask for it from day one. so that's so hopefully from i think our february meeting. yeah thank you. the sheriff's department communicated anything to us about additional training.

so i guess one other question and this is sort of cart before the horse in terms of staffing, say investigators. uh huh. is civil service. still about a year out. i know that the civil service commission has been trying to streamline the process, so it doesn't take a year to onboard somebody. no, i mean it's always been less than a year just but yes, there's a lot of rules changes in progress right now, and we've already seen reductions in the amount of time to hire. those efforts are ongoing and continue, and we hope it will be far less than that. i think i don't want to predict how long it would take. but no, it will not take that long. if someone's already in civil service, obviously a shorter time, um, when they're playing alright, correct. they don't have to start transfer. there's various mechanisms. big and who would be, um, drafting the civil service job description for the investigator ? positions would the inspector general be playing a role in

that with dhr primarily be doing that if it doesn't i believe their existing classifications already is that correct? time all the classifications exist, so we already have the class descriptions. um the inspector general could review them, and if there's changes that need to be made, they would work with our class, incompetent and compensation and division at the hr to amend the classification specs, and then they could be posted in adopted and they would be used to for the job announcements. are you talking about the classification respects for classification. 81 24, investigator for d p a. yeah, plenty. uh so the 1 24 classifications existing. um, i believe that is the class that's in the budget for the department . so but as paul mentioned the inspector general feels that there need to be changes to the classification or if there needs to be a different classification. then that process we go through dhr and we would work with them too. help with those help those amendments. okay, thank you. um

i have one last question. so maybe this is after we hire the inspector general, but, um, is there like a budget break out of the supporting staff. that included with miss that tomorrow, okay? you know? look for it. thank you. so we're ready for public comment on this agenda item. discussion of the emails. did you want to? oh, email. any discussion on the two emails were received from um, mr huntsman and miss alice. okay? um, also, there was. did anyone

want to discuss it? he broke community meetings in the upcoming june community meeting. you're just announced the date time and location of the june 8th meeting june the june meeting will be at glide memorial on june 8th from six pm to eight pm thank you. and if there's no further discussion for members of the public who would like to make public comment for line item three. if you are present, please line up at the podium otherwise, for those watching remotely, please call the general number and use the access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts to be added to the queue. the inspector general. is that a permanent position? civil service.

we have one caller calling in remotely. good afternoon collar. you have two minutes. my name is francisco decosta. and i'm very interested in this issue. i have given my comments before. and what i feel is that

we need to do a deep investigation. into our jails. um. we have a very primitive jail system. we have to do like dead investigation into ourselves. francisco police department. to the gap of their workforce. and what is happening over there? and i think we shouldn't be because we can listen to lots. angeles has a population of 4 million. we have a population of 820,000. and if we go the route of putting too much emphasis. an area that has a very large population. and

it's very close. to mexico with all those things happening march as we have on at the small scale. we will marry the waters. and i think that those are few. well. send it on this board. have to focus on empirical data. and expertise, real expertise. but that work with the inspector general. i have lost enforcement experience. and i know what i've document about. thank you very much. thank you, caller.

the next item on the agenda. calling line item for public comment on closed session public common and all matters pertaining to line item six. closed session, including comment. public comment online item five vote on whether they hold items six in closed session for members of the public who would like to make public comment for lying on them before you are present. please line up at the podium. otherwise please call the general number and use the access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts to be added to the queue. there appears to be no public comment. calling line item five vote in closed session action item. vote on whether to hold items six and closed session, including vote on whether to assert i'm sorry.

vote on whether to hold items six and closed session. do we pay public comment first? um i think you already did prior item. is there a motion to hold the closed session? because i just had a point of order, usually on closed session. there's some at least line item, whether it's a personnel issue or something else. and so there's nothing to really guide the public to comment on. so what's required is that you list the position and what, basically a description of it. it probably would have been better to have it, say personnel. matter, but that's what the item is. yeah okay. well, i feel like we should state it because if it's unclear would be unclear to the public to make any kind of comment. so vote on closed session. the closed session items will be for personnel

matters. is there a motion to have the closed session. i'll move that we go to close session, okay? second second thank you. we'll take the vote on the motion. remember awful how i'm angle. i . i feel remain grows. i remember brooke ter member proctor is i vice president carry on. carry on his eye member su i two as i president, rector. but there is i. motion very close session passes. we do

ask that the members of the public car in the audience. please step outside the chambers. we both to discuss discussion on closed action closed session. action item both to elect whether to disclose any or all discussion and items. six held in closed session. francisco administrative code 67 12, a is there emotion? i move not to disclosed things discussed during closed session. a second that hmm. 00? yes. second, i second that. members of the public would like to make public comments a line item seven. if you're president, please line up but podium otherwise please call the general number and used the access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts be added to the queue.

there appears to be no collars. take the vote for a line item seven. remember alfa ha mango. do not disclose. i. africa. um anger is i remember bruckner. there is i, vice president. carry on. carry on is i member sue. so as i president, director i. the motion passes. that closed session will not be disclosed to the public. and next dynamite on the agenda, please line item eight

coordinator early report to the sheriff and the board of supervisors, discussion and possible actual item. discuss s d o b evaluations and outreach during the first quarter of 2023. do we have any discussion or motions? i just want to express to the public. i regret for having to cancel some of the public meetings. um and just remind them that we always welcome comments through our emails or through our calls at our regular meetings. hmm. and to emphasize again, um are june 8th meeting with glide memorial. what's the action item on this? this is the core to report to

the sheriff. the board of supervisors stand out in your packet. hmm.entioned any further discussion or motion. so was it the past quarterly report that was made or a future one. it's the january 1 2023 through march 31 2023 quarterly report. be sent to the board. to be sent to the board. did we get another copy of it or was was that from what we had in the past? should be in the packet. that's the last pitch. sorry. sorry i was

looking. i had looked at one in the past. there you go. it's in. it's in the back. oh, here. thank you. i don't. i don't know if we needed to mention anything about the budget, that's all. it

was the emotion on this agenda item. i just feel like we need to just um, include include your your budget. that presentation. i think our budget presentation was in the it wasn't in the first three quarters. what's on it, or you made the presentation just a couple of weeks ago, right? i guess you're right. i guess you're right. you're preparing it. although, although i was going to say, um. i still think you know stuff with nicole armstrong helped us with and preparing for the budget. i think that was essential. just that we can we thoroughly considered budget items in and setting up a fresh office. and high and highlighted budget because in your presentation, we

highlighted budget items that hadn't been previously anticipated. i think that's really important to highlight. i'll make a motion that we approve the quarterly report. second we asked. i think i want to include that budget park. yeah i mean, i'm happy to do it. i mean, if we send them out quarterly, it could also be, but it was important to have it in the past quarter because that's how it got to be moved forward in his presentation was given it was it was given in. i want to say, october november the first is the january 1st. it was october number would not support us and the charter states that the of the quarter reports. um regarding sd obi evaluations and outreach and, oh, i g reports submitted to the s d o b. so those are the only things that it's asking for in the quarterly report. i think the two

evaluations that fall under your guy's powers and duties, are it uh huh. 4.137 b two and three um , evaluate the work of the org which the person's or that entity is not set up yet and then compile, evaluate and recommend law enforcement, custodial and best and patrol best practices. i think those are the only evaluations that are fall under your duties. yeah. so. i'm just pointing that out now. i'm okay. okay? we'll take the vote on the motion to approve the public comment. 1st 2nd. yeah, i second it okay? public public comment for members of the public who would like to make public comment for

line item eight of your present, please line up at the podium. otherwise please call the general number and use the access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts to be added to the queue. there appears to be no public comment. so we'll take them vote for mine item eight to accept the quarterly report. remember, i feel hot mango. bye. i feel like i'm angle is i remember bruckner director is i vice president carry on. carry on his eye member su i su as i president, rector. what there is i mentioned passes. calling line item. nine future agenda items. discussion item. so i would like to, uh, for the future. the next, um presentation from the sheriff's that we had moved from

today to give us the kind of discussion that we had for the inventory that we had requested to the next meeting. in addition , it is common practice for commissions to take a summer like a month off during the summer. um and i think that given our efforts to hold community meetings and having some scheduling conflicts that then resulted in that a counseling. i think that we should discuss. um whether this board wants to take one month off, and if so, which month? would that be given the work that we're doing? i have a preference for, um august. just because of the first, you know, traditionally, august august, okay, well, i mean, just because my kid is in summer break something that we put on the future for next agenda exactly exactly for the next agenda. um but that's something just to highlight for y'all to discuss. because if we wanted to do it

earlier than we'd have to vote now for july, i think, and i think it's yes, it's important. and then, um want to bring another, it might happen. it happens generally in august, but there's also nationally night out, so there's some community things that i think that we should be, um engaged in at least so i'm looking to you for member off. oh mongo, um so that we could go go out and do those things and so we can put in a request with the sheriff's office to also highlight some of the community events that we can go out to. and i think, um, city attorney if it's purely social, and we don't discuss any business. we doesn't matter if there's a quorum out there doing the social thing correct. um i think that's right. i have the good government guide here, and i'm tired, but yeah, that's right. i will look at it while you were continuing to discuss and if i'm wrong, i will correct myself. yeah friendly reminder to everyone that pride it is june it is pride months. yes so hopefully we'll we'll all be out

there in community celebrating and when is national night out? um it usually happens in august, but then there's also specific ones in san francisco in different districts, and i know the big chinatown. one happens in, um, september. also, um, i think something to think about um. well actually, we might even invite them to the glide meeting. so dan maybe we contact um, director cheryl evans davis , but with the human rights commission during that, um during the presentation that we had, i was reminded that maybe we should include the human rights commission and possibly the youth commission to give us some input. on an inspector general and then conditions with, um incarceration. um and then i think also. down the road coordinating or or getting reports from probation and

parole. so just to interject about the social gathering, so um in attendance of the majority of the members of a policy body to social ceremonial recreational gathering is not a meeting. if it's not sponsored for you guys and you refrain from discussing the business of the body at that, at the gathering things like meetings of other policy bodies, that's a little bit more complicated, and but that's talked about in the good government guide. if you guys ever have questions about that, obviously, you can ask me but it's like around page 1 35 in the good government guy. thank you. thank you. that's it for me. do we need to discuss? i know it was a line item about the mandatory training that the 20 hour training. we just need to finish it before july. or is there? no, we didn't. i just happened to put it in there because we hadn't had, but it's not a mandatory fixed deadline.

that's that's another budgetary issue, but i think it would be good if we got some more ongoing training. but that's also why i even put just hearing from, uh from probation and parole. um just how things dovetail in terms of services. um, i think that's a that's something that we need to be better informed about. yeah. i don't think you have to repeat the training. is that what you're? i'm just looking at the 80 hours and we only got 20 hours so basically, we want more training, okay, that's different. and it was, i think, yeah, i think the outline was already may remember that. i just wanted to make sure you because it says you're supposed to do. i'm looking at the charter to be trained within the first night within 90 days of your first term, which i read that i think there's a fair read that you don't have to repeat it for your second term. third term ongoing understand. now you're asking about something different or you're talking about something different. i think we're talking about supplemental training. that's not even

supplement. we didn't finish our initial 80 hours. that was anticipated that we would have and the whole outline. yeah. i think if we're going to hear from probation, we might also want to hear from the public defender's office to hear their perspective. on things. well, yeah, i mean, i just said probation and parole because that's that's sort of dovetails into the sheriff's work, so yeah, yeah. maybe we could have all three of them presented one meeting to give the varying perspectives. is that considered training if they come and do their presentation, or is that? no right sheriff and the sheriff's designee shall prescribe the content of intel administer the training, so that doesn't mean you can have other training. but right, right?

yeah. thank you for looking that up. any other, um, future agenda items that people would like to see. i think i think down the road really, to have community meetings that that we didn't have for the particular districts, but also coordinating better with, um the supervisor's office is to have them engaged. and then emphasized to them that it's their constituents. we want to reach. and then dan, if you want to do the chinatown ones and have language interpreters, i can help you with that. next item on the agenda. ok so

for members of comment on that, yes, that's general public comments are members of the public who would like to make public comment for line item nine. if you are present, please line up the podium. otherwise please call the general number and use the access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts to be added to the queue. we have one public. come in on online. good afternoon collar. you have two minutes. but i would like to bring to your attention is that we need to have. hearing with you commissioners. on how we proposed. two. address the situation. the 88. it looked as if you haven't been to 8 50 bryant. it's despicable. so with

all the talk about inspector general and you know the details about meetings and whatever. there are thousands of people over the years. that have been suffering because of the. the dirty situation switch flowing all over the place. and you're a nonchalant about this situation. so i think we need to have a hearing so that you can hear from the people. at city hall. rather than a seven o'clock and eight oclock in the night in the tender line, and tt pera house nobody's going to go there. people are not stupid. nobody guarantees that security. we're going to have this hearing at city hall. that's what you

all the commissioners so that. find out exactly what you have in mind to have this inspector general if you're really care about rehabilitation. you've got clowns before. care about the president. we had to fight so that um, they could get rid of the belt situation. and jeff adachi was dead. and talking about the shine apartment. i need order to really get them on board. and make them have some empathy. you guys have to do something. you know? thank you. caller. your time is up. calling late item 10 and general public comment at this time. the public

is welcome to address the board for up to two minutes on items that did not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the sheriff's department oversight board. during public comment. neither shared personnel nor any board members are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response as a reminder general public comment is for items that did not appear on tonight's agenda. for those who are president. please line up at the podium for those who are not present. please call the general number and use the access code appearing on your screen and follow the prompts be added to the queue. there's no public comment. calling line item 11 adjournment action item all those in favor, alright maids. meeting is adjourned at 4 16. pm thank you. thank you, everyone.

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♪♪ >> san francisco! ♪♪ >> this is an exhibition across departments highlighting different artworks from our collection. gender is an important part of the dialogue. in many ways, this exhibition is contemporary. all of this artwork is from the 9th century and spans all the way to the 21st century. the exhibition is organized into seven different groupings or themes such as activities,

symbolism, transformation and others. it's not by culture or time period, but different affinities between the artwork. activities, for example, looks at the role of gender and how certain activities are placed as feminine or masculine. we have a print by uharo that looks at different activities that derisionly performed by men. it's looking at the theme of music. we have three women playing traditional japanese instruments that would otherwise be played by men at that time. we have pairings so that is looking within the context of gender in relationships. also with how people are questioning the whole idea of pairing in the first place.

we have three from three different cultures, tibet, china and japan. this is sell vanity stot relevar has been fluid in different time periods in cultures. sometimes being female in china but often male and evoking features associated with gender binaries and sometimes in between. it's a lovely way of tying all the themes together in this collection. gender and sexuality, speaking from my culture specifically, is something at that hasn't been recently widely discussed. this exhibition shows that it's gender and sexuality are actually have been considered and complicated by dialogue

through the work of artists and thinking specifically, a sculpture we have of the hindu deities because it's half pee male and half male. it turns into a different theme in a way and is a beautiful representation of how gender hasn't been seen as one thing or a binary. we see that it isn't a modest concept. in a way, i feel we have a lot of historical references and touch points throughout all the ages and in asian cultures. i believe san francisco has close to 40% asian. it's a huge representation here in the bay area. it's important that we awk abouk about this and open up the discussion around gender. what we've learned from organizing this exhibition at the museum is that gender has

been something that has come up in all of these cultures through all the time periods as something that is important and relevant. especially here in the san francisco bay area we feel that it's relevant to the conversations that people are having today. we hope that people can carry that outside of the museum into their daily lives. >>

for us, we wish we had our queue and we created spaces that are active. >> food and drinks. there is a lot for a lot of folks and community. for us, it started back in 1966 and it was a diner and where our ancestors gathered to connect. i think coffee and food is the very fabric of our community as well as we take care of each other. to have a pop-up in the tenderloin gives it so much meaning. >> we are always creating impactful meaning of the lives of the people, and once we

create a space and focus on the most marginalized, you really include a space for everyone. coffee is so cultural for many communities and we have coffee of maria inspired by my grandmother from mexico. i have many many memories of sharing coffee with her late at night. so we carry that into everything we do. currently we are on a journey that is going to open up the first brick and mortar in san francisco specifically in the tenderloin. we want to stay true to our ancestors in the tenderloin. so we are getting ready for that and getting ready

for celebrating our anniversary. >> it has been well supported and well talked about in our community. that's why we are pushing it so much because that's how we started. very active community members. they give back to the community. support trends and give back and give a safe space for all. >> we also want to let folks know that if they want to be in a safe space, we have a pay it forward program that allows 20% to get some funds for someone in need can come and get a cup of coffee, pastry and feel welcomed in our community. to be among our community, you are always welcome here. you don't have to buy anything or get anything, just be here and express yourself and be your authentic self and we will always take

care of you. >> it's great to see everyone kind of get together and prove, that you know, building our culture is something that can be reckoned with. >> i am desi, chair of economic development for soma filipinos.

so that -- [ inaudible ] know that soma filipino exists, and it's also our economic platform, so we can start to build filipino businesses so we can start to build the cultural district. >> i studied the bok chase choy heritage, and i discovered this awesome bok choy. working at i-market is amazing. you've got all these amazing people coming out here to share one culture. >> when i heard that there was a market with, like, a lot of filipino food, it was like oh,

wow, that's the closest thing i've got to home, so, like, i'm going to try everything. >> fried rice, and wings, and three different cliefz sliders. i haven't tried the adobe yet, but just smelling it yet brings back home and a ton of memories. >> the binca is made out of different ingredients, including cheese. but here, we put a twist on it. why not have nutella, rocky road, we have blue berry. we're not just limiting it to just the classic with salted egg and cheese.

>> we try to cook food that you don't normally find from filipino food vendors, like the lichon, for example. it's something that it took years to come up with, to perfect, to get the skin just right, the flavor, and it's one of our most popular dishes, and people love it. this, it's kind of me trying to chase a dream that i had for a long time. when i got tired of the corporate world, i decided that i wanted to give it a try and see if people would actually like our food. i think it's a wonderful opportunity for the filipino culture to shine. everybody keeps saying filipino food is the next big thing. i think it's already big, and to have all of us here together, it's just -- it just blows my mind sometimes that there's so many of us bringing -- bringing filipino

food to the city finally. >> i'm alex, the owner of the lumpia company. the food that i create is basically the filipino-american experience. i wasn't a chef to start with, but i literally love lumpia, but my food is my favorite foods i like to eat, put into my favorite filipino foods, put together. it's not based off of recipes i learned from my mom. maybe i learned the rolling technique from my mom, but the different things that i put in are just the different things that i like, and i like to think that i have good taste. well, the very first lumpia that i came out with that really build the lumpia -- it wasn't the poerk and shrimp

shanghai, but my favorite thing after partying is that bakon cheese burger lumpia. there was a time in our generation where we didn't have our own place, our own feed to eat. before, i used to promote filipino gatherings to share the love. now, i'm taking the most exciting filipino appetizer and sharing it with other filipinos. >> it can happen in the san francisco mint, it can happen in a park, it can happen in a street park, it can happen in a tech campus.

it's basically where we bring the hardware, the culture, the operating system. >> so right now, i'm eating something that brings me back to every filipino party from my childhood. it's really cool to be part of the community and reconnect with the neighborhood. >> one of our largest challenges in creating this cultural district when we compare ourselves to chinatown, japantown or little saigon, there's little communities there that act as place makers. when you enter into little philippines, you're like where are the businesses, and that's one of the challenges we're trying to solve.

>> undercover love wouldn't be possible without the help of the mayor and all of our community partnerships out there. it costs approximately $60,000 for every event. undiscovered is a great tool for the cultural district to

bring awareness by bringing the best parts of our culture which is food, music, the arts and being ativism all under one roof, and by seeing it all in this way, what it allows san franciscans to see is the dynamics of the filipino-american culture. i think in san francisco, we've kind of lost track of one of our values that makes san francisco unique with just empathy, love, of being acceptable of different people, the out liers, the crazy ones. we've become so focused onic maing money that we forgot about those that make our city and community unique. when people come to discover, i want them to rediscover the magic of what diversity and

empathy can create. when you're positive and committed to using that energy, >> it is one of the first steps families and step to secure their future and provide a sense of stability for them and their loved ones. your home, it is something that could be passed down to your children and grandchildren. a asset

that offers a pathway to build wealth from one generation to the next. and you need to complete estate plan to protect the asisets. your home, small business, air looms and more. you and so many communities, black, indigenous, latino and asian worked so hard to make yours but estate plans could be costly and conversations complex proud to partner to bring free and low cost estate plans to san franciscans. by providing estate plans we are able to keep the assets whole for our families, prevent displacement, address disparities and home ownership and strengthen the cultural integrity of the city. working with local non profit organizations and neighborhood groups bringing the serveess to you and community, to workshops focused on estate planning and why it's important. >> i'm 86 years old and you do need a trustee. you

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>> why are estate plans important? we were just talking before we started the program, 70 percent of black americans do not scr a will in place. >> as mentioning being in community we had a conversation with a woman who paid $2700, $2700 just for revocable trust. what we are talking about today are free or low cost estate plans that are value between 3,000 to $3500. free or low cost meaning free, or $400 if you make above $104 thousand a year, and capped larger then that amount. because we want to focus on black and brown households, because that's whether the need is, not only in san francisco, not only the bay area but the region as well. and, >> i was excitesed to see the turn out from the western addition and bayview and want to make sure we cover all the different steps from buying a home to making sure homes stay

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impact on my chinese business. >> i'm the founder of joe-joe. i'm a san francisco based chinese artist. i grew up in the bayview district. i am from china i started at an early age i started at age of 10 my grandfather my biggest inspiration. and i have followed with my traditional art teacher in china:i host educational workshops at the museum and local library. and i also provide chinese writing in public middle school and that way i hold more people fall in love with the beautiful of our chinese calligraphy.

it is a part of our heritage. and so we need to keep this culture alive. hand writing is necessary field that needs to be preserved generation toieneration. this art form is fading away. but since covid i have been very dedicated to this art and i hope that my passions and serving this art form. there are many stores and shopping centers and companies that are interested in chinese cal iing ravi. i feel motivated to my passion for chinese calligraphy in today's world. so people can always enjoy the beauty of chinese calligraphy,

from time to time i have a choice to traditional chinese calligraphy to make it more interesting. we do calligraphy on paper. i can do calligraphy different low. >> my inspiration is from nature and provide calligraphy that was popular style of persons time. i will invite to you check out my website or instagram. and there is some events and updated upcoming events that you can participate. .

[applause] >> good morning everybody. good morning, it will work better to hold this. (indiscernible) it is 5 after 12. this is the last time stopped this long was the 1906 earthquake. it is in fact 11 o'clock, so we are starting. i want to welcome everybody here. i'm the rick the president of market street railway, a non profit muni's preservation partner. we get no government funding. we depend on donations from individuals and businesses who love and benefit from the historic cars that run on market street which we brought back 40 years ago, and the cable cars. we run the san francisco railway museum around