tv Building Inspection Commission SFGTV June 26, 2023 8:00pm-12:01am PDT
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>> good morning today is wednesday june 21, 2023. the regular meeting of the building inspection commission. i like to reminds everyone to mute if you are not speak the first item is roll call. and if you have cell phones silent them. president bito. >> here. >> vice president tam. >> here. >> commissioner alexander-tut >> here >> commissioner neumann. >> here. >> commissioner shaddix. >> here >> commissioner sommer. >> here.
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access code is access code: 2594 844 3612 ##. to raise your hand press star 3. next we are item 2 president's opening remarks. >> good morning to my fellow commissioners. leadership at dbi and the public here. we are anticipating a lot of general comments i want to keep my statements brief. i want to state that we are all aware about the state of san francisco and its economic recovery as in a lot of trouble nouchl we got retailers leaving san francisco. i think the recovery for downtown san francisco is not moving as swift low and smooth
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as we hoped. i want to commend the d. building inspection for their efforts to balance their budgets. and on our agenda today is in toward that effort is looking at increase fees. i'm also sympathetic to the programs that are going to be affected by this. but you know some of the things we have read and seen are hard decisions that have to be made in the coming weeks and months. those are all my comments for nouchl thank you. >> thank you. is there public comment on the president's opening remarks? seeing 91. next general public comment. bic will take comment on matters in the commission's jurisdiction that are not on the agenda today. and in light of the initial members that we have present we will limit it to 2 minutes.
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and there is was a request for cantonese speak interpreter we have visible in the front, please, indicate how many people may need that service? >> okay. so at the time when the time come for cantonese speaking interpreter we have one in the front row here. >> this evening i'm jerry dratlearch you will be hi. hi. thank you. thank you commissioner tam.
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>> good morning i'm jerry dratler you have a copy e mail i sent the mir and the board of supervisors yesterday regarding will illegal subdivision of 13 housing units to 32 units on alemany boulevard. illegal construction at 320 alemany similar to illegal construction at 2867 san bruno avenue. illegal construction on the scape witnessed at both project system only possible where systemic corruption exists. city attorney's lawsuit identified penalties can be assessed against the property owner. the city attorney's task force issued new nov's and planning department noise of enforcement
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in 20 twoochl for violations that were identified 14 years ago this begs the question where were the nov's and e's improperly closed by planning and dbi. dbi inspectors did not enforce the code. permits improperly issued and noticed improperly closed. sprinkler permits issued between 2006 and 8 were never inspected or finaled by dbi. why was this life safety issue ignored by dbi? 3 certificates of final completion improperly issued by dbi grant beck upper in 2008 the fourth certificate of completion was issued by inspector hernandez in 2022. this nonsense needs to stochl
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and it is the responsibility of the bic and dbi management to end it, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning, commissioner am i'm jack k i represent happenings [inaudible] i'm here to urge commissioner don't reduce or continue funding the [inaudible] program. by doing so we risk remove crucial opportunity to ensure quality of living for our
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communities. one of the highlight i want to show you guy is the housing team cooperate with dbi. [inaudible] is the property management owning the sro building but during the several year they allowed the code violation. and for the housing team they are doing go to the rent board and decreasing housing. by getting president step attention to the city attorney and asking particular fers team to go check all their building and finalize a lot of code violation such as illegal structure and authorizing electrical wiring and nonfunctional central heating system inside the building. and that's all the word the cooperate with dbi and task
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force. also after the inspection, the housing also follow continue follow the code violation and also corroborate rit with the property management team to repair and restore the service all raising the occurrence. so in conclusion, i'm once again try to urge you to not cut the cr program and providing a better quality of life for tenants. thank you. next speaker, please. [speak cantonese]
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>> good morning, i live in sr oshg build nothing 1449 powell street for 30 year i'm here today i hope the commissioner can reconsider the project and restore funding. in 2014 our living condition significantly decreased our building owner change friday chinese speak to a large scale property management company there is no chinese speaking staff. therefore if we want to report to the property upon manager that he will not listen or use the language barrier excuse and ignore our requests we try to complain about building repair. i need to wait 15 minutes for someone to pick up i only speak in cantonese the staff needs a translator. i have never heard back from
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other response when the department no one following up my complaint i don't trust the language lionel. in the past decade i always asked for assist housing [inaudible] help us our building increasing housing service in the pel suspicion reason board. our living condition changes the property management hired a chinese translator for our point. however we still need assistance for repair issue. sro tenants we are lower income and believe i not get the frustration and disrespect [inaudible] i'm here express my gratitude to staff who support tenants. always empower us as low income immigrant and add haveicate or rights.
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million budget and help us to stay in dbi. i have been working as an organizer for more than 2 years. i have follow up with 134 build ing problem and 115 of the building issues. without reporting to db pieshg. 19 i transfer wetreferred them to housing counseling team and helped more than 50 families to soft building issues. the building issues include the following. pealing plaster falling downful like. shower room needs repair. broken stalls. fire smoke detector needs exchanged. the fire escape route is
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clutter. and a lot of issues such as roechs and are thes. we always community with residents about the building code and encourage them to report any building issues. throughout the year we built a success trust rep with our families we live in the same community and speak the same language families don't worry about language or cultural barriers they use our service without barriers. in our past collaboration dbi and sro families and organizers work together serve and improve the living environments. i'm here to urge the commissioners to continue to support us and help us restore funding. so 800sro members can continue
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witness a problem of water seepage in the toilet prevented us from going to the bathroom 10 yearod had to relief themselves in my unit it took a long time to reper se temperature i med a request to management and no one was sent to repair this affects our basic life i had to seek help from sr oshg organizers through the organizers and the building owner the building problem was resolved now the regular visit our homes. for new immigrant families who don't have information they need the help of u noticed collaborative am i hope dbi will support the u noticed budget. thank you.
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thank you temperature commissioners good morning. please- you to restore our budget and continue to include sro collaborative and the cr program. my family lived in sro less than 100 square feet. share bathroom, shower and kitchen with 20 other households on the same floor and shareit@cbsaustin.com same building, clogged toilets. like faucets. broken stoves throughout help of organizers who help community with the learned everlandlord the issues and safety hazards got fixed the collaborative improve our living conscience. provide workshops for us to understand building codes.
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hi. i'm a member of the sro family collaborative. live in sro unit in china town please remain the funding for the collaborative in the past i responsiblesed issues with water like in my room and the hallway. despite roaching out to management many times no response our action taken. feeling helpless i reached out to organizers who helped me contact the company and address the water like. thanks to them the left-hand side lord repaired the officer and now weep don't worry about likes. if the funding for the collaborative is cut our families will lose an important organization that assists us and advocates for rights.
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my family of 3 live in a very small sro in china town. i have 2 kids. i have a 2 year old son and 8 year old daughter. the collaborative is very important to us. they really help us especially during the pandemic and -- help us to fix our building issues. our organizer would visit us regular low and understandoir building conditions. left time my the stove in the kitchen was broken. since we share the stove with 20 others it is difficult to cope and horn live there could not use the stove. my kids of so hung row and could not get food. i feel so sad as a mother my kid could not eat. and eventual low this problem was resolveed help our organizer
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and skoal glad and thankful for their helpful we are low income monolingual families the organizes speaks the same language we don't have to worry language barrier. i cannot imagine if we don't have the collaborative anymore i don't know who to go to and i have these problems i'm here to urge to you continue to let us stay in the dbi budget and help us restore our funding back. thank you.
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>> hole commissioners. we mote again today. you heard about our family's experience i will not talk about that today i want to talk about my family and our experiences. i am an sr oshg organizer. my 10 years old daughter asked mow if i like my job i said. s she asked me why because i wake up earlier than our families. i have to answer phone calls. support them. it it is not seem like i'm home
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often. i told my daughter i like the job and i came her a was a member of the sro family collaborative export to help back. i know how if has been supportive for me and our up bringing and i know the commissioners you work hard. i urge to you support us because our live lihoods here in the u.s. have also suffers a lot. thank you.
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commissioners i'm liien i'm a member of the sr oshg family united collaborative. today i'm here to urge the commission to continue the support us to stay in dbi's budget and help us to stop the budget cut. my family of 4 lived in china town sro we live in a room less than 100 square feet. my kid has to do home work and eat on the bed. because of the limited space, we put our belongings in the hallway. we finds out this is a safety hazzard through a home visit the organizationer we cannot put anything in the fire escape route t. is dangerous. luthis i understand of this important knowledge. the sro family united collaborative would hold fire
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prevention workshops and educate us about our right and all the important knowledges we need ton. organizers serve us no matter if rain or shine or -- they would help us to support support us to fix our building problems. communicating with landlords. and usual low the, get resolved quickly. the code enforcement out reach program is important to everybody who live in sro especially families so i'm here to urge the commission, please, help us to fight budget cuts and so then the programs continue to support all the families in china town and the other neighborhoods. thank you.
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hi. everyone i'm young li i'm an circumstance ro organizer chienys progressive association and i urge the department of belling inspection to support and it maintain the budget of the sro families u noticed collaborative. during our work we visit families and understand the condition of the building x. we build relationships with families through roach and phone
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communications. families then access to miles an hour information about tenant's rights through families u nighted collaborativism remember on afternoon occasion i called the family and learned it was raining for days a female had like in their unit. the residence den family had called the management company several times the company had no, sir arranged someone to do repairs. unit in itself is in size and in the sufficient in space. adding in the water leakage problem you can imagine the situation. i ask the family for the phone nfbt management company murder to follow up with the matter. i introduced moiz to the company as an organizer of the sr oshg family united collaborative am told them the family's address sxushg nit number and reported the water likage and extent of the impact. the staff mfsht misdemeanoring company responded saying they would arrange to send maintenance to the door to perform the repair immediately. our families united
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united collaborative to stay in budget and help us stop cuts the collaborative is important to me because i'm a newim guarantee my family of 4 lives in the sro less than 100 square feet i have a 6 and 17 year old kid. only place to do activities and home work is the bunk bed. had we first come to america we are help when wills we have building issues. and we are so thankful for our organizers when show come to visit us in our building she would help us to solve the building issues by communicating with the landlord since we speak the same language and they are doing this very quickly. they are handling all the building cases and they're professional and fast. and i am just so thankful for the collaborative help i cannot
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good morning i'm one of the families. sro families united collaborative i hope the dbi will not cut our family u noticed budget of the i am a family of 4 in an sro in china town we are 22 units on our floor with average of 3-4 per house. and there are 3 toilets n. past my building had problems with clogged toilets once it was useless for a few days we called the office and no one took care television. i asked the organizationer to help me and replace it with a new toilet. now there is a problem the building manager will deal with it soon so we don't have to worry the program organizations a family fun day our units are too small for commissioner to play-off fun day is an event
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especially during the rainy days firefighter always liked liking and slip row on the hallway and i'm worry federal my kid trip the floor is slip row. i have been stealing my building manager about this issue and i have been talking to my land lord. nothing happened. it is building manager and left lane lord, the issue got resolved. i'm thankful the sro organizer provided the language service we need and able to community with the landlord and help us to resolve the building issues. and i think their service is effective and useful for all sro households. i'm here to urge the dbi
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commissioners to please stands with us. the support our budget request and help us to restore funding. because without these services without the program of the our lives will be more unsafe and we will just be live nothing worse living environment. thank you. the chinese progressive association we fight for sro families. my work area in work upper right and work with many sro families with low wage jobs domestic and janitorial work who worry about getting good jobs to pay rent. and have groceries on the table and access to childcare.
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i'm not here for myself i'm here for my coworker tammy fong who could not make it today. i will read her >> i'm tammy i am a former sro family of the family united collaborative lived in an sro since coming to the united states as youth i serve a community organizer for cpa over seeing organizationing in the united collaborative understand the challenges living conditions. where shared facilities face maintenance issues due to high usage. in the past language barriers and fear of oshg felonying building managers prevented my family for reporting. thankers for the support of the organizers making request system our right says as tenant in the u.s. as a residents and organizer i rescue noise the relionels of families live nothing substandard conscience on organizations like the soo
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family collaborative. our wo is voilths providing safe and affordable housing, services and resources to improve lives. budget cuts would upon under mine our progress and leave the families without passport they need. i hope you understand the impact of budget cut and urge you to retain the 5.2 million budget for families united collaborative am thank you. [speaking spanish] hello good morning and thank you for paying attention on us and being here.
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>> i am here i also in through a difficult situation in my housing experience and if not for the service of programs like this, then i would in the have a home right now. so, if it is up to you, please listen to everyone in the room and in god's name i ask to please don't cut the fund figure our program. thank you.
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this cults will negative low impact our communities who are president most vulnerable when assessing housing. years back i did not know my rights i did not know any of the organization importance here today i was evicted. >> and at the time my daughter was 2 i was evicted not knowing rights hi owed 2 months back rent.
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>> and i am here to ask don't cut the program this is benefit our community through those programis able to understand my rights. >> thank you, and blessings. >> good afternoon. commissioners i'm maria i have been an organizer for tenant's rights i'm in tenderloin a mall business owner and when i was notified they would have the cuts it brought to my attention the family this is get impacted the families that are vulnerable. like in the tenderloin. i also have worked with people that lived in sro's and i was listening to the stories. i'm a mom and have a 7 year old boy that goes to the district.
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i can't think how the families can live in 100 square footage first and second and inhabitable conscience. we are talking about families that work hard and have been put and adding so much value to the community to the economy in san francisco. we are one of the most progressive cities in the nation. and we cannot have people had wait to advocate for repairs. landlords don't understands what the repairs needs to be happening. and as also i think the conscience should not be should not be talking about cuts when we know that there is a very important and crucial for families. i really [inaudible] add voidate for the fell this is is real.
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i would just continue listening to the store and hes brings me back to we have to have organizers that oldvocate for rights they are so important and landlords. please, advocate for us and let's have san francisco as a unity and continue moving. we have also had set stand for the nation. san francisco has done so many incredible things for residents. thank you. all right. good morning powerful commissioners i'm audrey mart motor i'm here representing committee of san francisco and tenabilities we assist. bilingual speaker. and i have witnessed the mental issues that come with after
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habitable issues for tenants because affects our mental state of mind and conscience. i want to also mention that putting the money back to the code enforce am operation's program will enforce a job we do and will keep us accountability for our services. i myself have had an issues in the behalf. they are working class will wait longer. if you allow us we will have more homeless people habitable, raise fees if you need to, thank you. hello commissioners i'm fran housing rights mittee. it is dus gusting tenants need to beg for code enforcement.
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we have been parking lot of the department housing rights for 26 years. we have 2 staff people who have been on our employed with this department. dbi for 23 years. they have trained many people who become inspectors in this department. when we were last here you said they would be no cuts to sro's you would look at fees. and please this time don't insult us the families by telling them many without xourts to tell them to look on your website. something might be translated there. our staff uses your website every day and they need help. many of the families don't have computers. my birth questions are when did you last raise fees on land
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lords? a landlord who refuses to fix goes to a hearing we work with your dbi inspectors why do you charge for time of your inspectors not for the hundreds of hours this we put in in your employees. these programs could be paid for by fees your department cut feeos developers in 2015. and if honest low you have less need to inspect new construction. why don'ts you cut that side of the d. because there is an increased need for code enforce. both 've your inspectors in our services your department conditional handle 20,000 more case because collective low that's what the agencies deal with every year and you don't
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have the staff to handle the cases we handle in spanish or cantonese or filipino or many other languages we handle here. we save you motional thank you very much. etch our organizations devoteed right and the right to a habitable home the repair conscience are afalling from blook black mold to termites to
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one extreme case the body fluids of a deceases attentive like to another attentive's unit and landlords neglect properties in one building a lands lord refused to repair a liking officer they were selling the building and would in the seat return on investment. our staff helped the spanish speakers learn rights after taking action the they got the roof fixed. and you don't in the conscience we bench snout an emergency if not for the work of the sro collaborative. dbi has not raised landlord fees
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since 2006 it is dangerous to cut programs unless the landlords pay their share. reserve the budget for the collaborative for the upcoming year. thank you. >> hi. i'm alicia i'm a spanish speak housing right committee of san francisco i live and born and raised in the mission district. collaborative programs are important. don't cut funds to these programs. raise the de feos on left-hand side lords. they refuse to repair and put lives at risk. i have been with housing rights for 7 years. i hear had tenabilities tell us on the phone. how they are to live in roach infested units with are the and mold and inhabitable conscience landlords telling them if you don't like it get out.
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dealing with harrassment due to living horrid conscience. tenants feel helpless. landlords caused people's lives. when there is a fire, had getting rid of bed bugs. allergies to mold. illegal units. sending pictures and pictures they have been bitten by bed bugs and the left lane lord refuses to do anything about it. we work with tenability informing them of rights. to work. the work that we do is so important. it saves lives. raise the de feos. i work in too many case lammed lords take advantage. than i will do what they want to do just to make money. but when it come to repairs, they are at fault. cutting programs will put tenants lives at risk.
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don't dot cuts. raise the fees thank you. >> good morning i'm beck i'm contract service director with just cause. i am telling you we need to keep the programs. because it is in the just getting rid of programs it is this would be getting rid of what we talked about here the safety and habitability of thousands of tenants, units the 20,000 people that dhaul is 20,000 people that is merchandise because people have kids living there. there is whole families living together. and we know that the cuts they
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will cut digified housing for people. people in to us out roach to them. stick to folks the importance. . yea. we speak about what is needed. there are extreme levels of what people need in repairs. sometimes it feels mall. but my life my kitchen sink works and relief this brings to mow may seem silly but it is relieving i can use it better that it is one mall thing attentives from from ceilings issues over kid's bedrooms to roaches and all the things that we know that they trust us. we have been in the community for years and it is important we stay. we work with the housing inspectors and know the job is important. we are really connecting. we have building capacitiment
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i make sure attentives know how to request repairs the support we provide is enough to make sure they are completed. we make sure that tenants receive support from housing inspectors. please continue funding the programs. the budget cuts are an attack on san franciscans. of working class and low income. the cuts would mean cuts to
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childcare, food banks, housing for young families. francesca workers deserve habitable and safe housing, food safety and care for their children. the mayor's proposed budget is take the city in the wrong direction. we know -- we know that landlords can increase fees to raise tenants they have rent control departments where is the
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good afternoon i live in sunny valley but was from the mission when i live thered i was worried. i had a grand child who had cancer and off the, that have been raised here occurred to me. this happened 17 years ago and now i work at just cause. and housing is the same. one day i will be in your seat and i will have the amount compassion need to seat reality.
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and here i am listening to the experiences of people that i used to experience the mold, the rats, the inhabitable conscience we need to e readicate the conditions. >> luck low we have organizations that help tenant and people like myself that truly want to advocate for my community. making sure the community knows their rights. them to feel their royalty to go
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to organizations in the man they necessitate they must satisfy and especially to hold in honest landlords accountable. you would not known all of the, that are facing our community if you did not have the work of council lers byling waland multicultural. and i foal this you cannot you don't want to listen to the stories being upheld today. why take more from the little this we receive in our communities?
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combh for the child not to and for them not to die the way my grand child died because of the conditions that we had to live in. thank you. hello i'm melissa gomez part of the community services and mission collaborative. i can stand here and say we understand the decisions but we don't mission collaborative and the other clan tifs allow the services and training for community and taking away funding would impact our community. the funding provided helps to ensure we staff personnel to serve the community and in order to serve the community we have a team including community field organizers, tenants. councillor and out roach workers
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each of these to provide services that help tenants with issues regarding rent increasement. harrassment, pests. habitability issues. part of the out reach work is out reach around dbi service without mrs. ridiculous that will be barriers for tenants had a difficulty understanding the service dbi offers. it grit that db oishgs has a website with multiple languages most language used. >> this is where we come in the picture. our attentives don't have internet access we are access. we use the fund to run program and host events. operatesifiy prevention prevent fires one at the grand mission.
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i'm john with the collaborative we are sad with the level of cooperation from members of this body that refused or ignored inritation to visit the sro's earlier this year. as well as from the department that chose to e eliminate a cost saving program without a meeting. the clan tifs should have been include in those meetings. and conversation that we would
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have found solutions together as the cooperative partners we have been for decades. huvaluable is that program? according to the director. especially during the pandemic and during covid when they had grirt lines of connectivity with community when asked by the last week at the budget committee hearing. without the programs how do you stability greater lines of connectivity. provide language for off the inspectors? learn spanish. cantonese arabic and other languages. how quickly will that happen?
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home. we urge to you accept our inritations to visit the sro's. don't ignore us again. thank you. >> good morning i'm peter and i am a councillor at the central city collaborative. we handle a lot of the elements and services that a lot of people don't hahn to do. where to go. do they than habitable issues are not the inspectors from dbi don't handle that it is d. public health and housing division would they than in where would they go if the service were in the available especially you in that the pandemic is closing. we will have a lot more, to deal with. the city is in enough trouble with the home and willsment to
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have more added that. i was and a client habit okay issue and if not for the collaborative i would be in the street or not live nothing the city. i take this matter seriously and to heart i don't want to see anybody go what i went through. without the services which are public and private sro's as well. they will have nowhere to g. i urge you to consider the funding and how person for the services in need going forward. thank you. i'm gregory johnson with the collaborative. also no one the housing clinic. the dbi created by voter
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referendum under prop g. in 1994. those are design purpose and myth statement and all heard that today. i'm not going to reiterate that. but had i didn't hear is included in that package was a simple question of asked of the taxpayers. shall the city's concern line item budget process be replaced boy a mission driven budget process? taxpayers said, yes. that was in the done. this was a line item. you just upon one-stroke of i pen and we are wiped out. of in budget process. we all shown today starting with the first gentlemen who that's our next generation. planets will have to represent
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of the for violations. we have to funds the collaborative. we serve a real purpose. that does in the take away from ghn this room. >> you guys other commission you stood over dbi we were never inright to the table to have this dugz. wore mission based driven. we have the facts. look at the facts. we provide a service the city benefited from it. we can't say no, today. we can't continue this we have to get funding. thank you. >> hello i'm suzie and i'm a housing volunteer councillor. and i'm here to ask to tell you
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how important it is for the xhounlts of the tenderloin. we offer services to people that are not, wear of their right and we inform them and help them they bring us information and we view it and we sends them to services to help them. and we are afraid if you -- stop our services theyville nowhere to g. i'm also a 10 analysis in an sro and know how person it is for me to explain to the tenants things going on they don't understand at all limp is nobody for them to help them the people that are assigned by the ordinance of the building they don't help they get paid and don't help. and central city offers a service to the community that is very useful. i'm asking to you consider keeping us in the budget of thank you. can we take a 5 minute break?
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okay. yes. we will take a 5 minute break and >> we're public comment. i'm jason and this is my partner karen we are out reach workers. in the tenderloin. we go to the sro's. and we help out the poor elderly, handicapped. help out those with language barriers special people this don't know where to turn when they have issues. a lady husband passed away. she did not know how to pay her
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rent. she was facing eviction. we during out reach come across a hotel there was no person or front door and anybody could walk in the build and do drugs or whatever they were doing and there was no maintenance workers in the building. the garbage was pilingum and rats. no door knobs on the bathrooms. no door handles. so there was piece of paper stuff in the holes and no privacy. hole in the shower room because there was no electricity. and we see this all the time upon i'll proud to do what i do. i would appreciate it if you would let mow continue my work.
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thank you. >> thank you. good morning i'm kathy vaughn a counselor. prior to being an i live immediate an sro in the tenderloin and also an i forgot where i was. i'm sorry. anyway i worked with the tenants and i now i live just in the tenderloin we have seniors that come in with fizzal and mental disability and seeking help to maneuver through the process of having issues with bed bugs and roaches, mold. okay it is a vital program we
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do. i can't imagine what would happen with the people especially the seniors you know and appeal this is can't do this for themselves. they can't they are unable to maneuver through the program of i beg you, please, don't take out the line item. put it become in the budget. thank you. >> good morning. i'm know some of you come by [inaudible] for walk tlouchl i justment to reiterate what previous speakers said you heard.
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i consider the programs as a life line to resident who is live in small units in tenderloin. we other first contact for them. we go to them of so we work closely with your inspectors. there will be a lot of cases that will not be resolved we do resolve them without inspectors. i think this was a prize to us. because we thought that we budget was in the line item but it was a surprise to find it wasn't example we would appreciate a conversation and previous the reason why i'm here i was taken boy surprise spite of working with the department that none of us knew this was coming. i don't understand why a phone
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call and bringing us to the table to resolve this would we would not be here. asking for this so -- i want you to treat united states as partners we don't think you do. i hope you restore funding for tenderloin and othering neighborhoods. people have come and spoken and you can't replace when we serve in the community. thank you. hi. everyone. good morning i like to peek in spanish. i'm a commune leader for the clinic program.
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i like to express gratitude thanks to the workshops of right and activism in the program i have been able to learn and improve my education. i have opportunity to have an income to support my family. as a mother of 5 i request and here to ask your support it don't cut our funding our families the most families need this services to improve life
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quality. thank you for attention. i'm program manager for tenderloin housing clinic i'm here on behalf of the upon municipality and other neighborhoodses our work is essential for the city and doing the heavy left. we have workshops. events and the contact with the community. even when there inspections has to be part of to translate to explain the process. it is in the easy for everybody just to go on line and file a complaint with dbi people get lost in the process. lees i'm requesting your support and for d bi allow us to be debriefed. bring the organization closer to the community.
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thank you. >> good morning i work with the mission collaborative a community of delores. all our programs have been doing this work since 1991 and present and active at the most important times for families and individuals. it is unfathomable to me that d bi could cut off the budget ever 30 plus years without us there is in way for dbi to handle the calls about issues, code violation and had recess am we all take. city would not be a language access compliance without our programs.
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there was a fire in theination affected a family with 3 young children under 13. our organizationers at the collaborative did everything necessary and following up for the family they were communicating with the red cross to get money for groceries. found them items they lost in the fire clothes mattress and i person delivered it and supported them innet getting children to school with materials than i needed after the fire. beyond this we do fire prevention services and training allowing folks to understands safety in buildings something that building manager and dbi could not do without us. we discuss other work arounds raising fees on land lords despite rent increases and increase the developer fees. the commune immigrant tenant and families presence built the city
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should not have to pifor those cuts restore the programs to keep them in service. thank you. commissioners. you heard value of this the programs i don't think there is a doubt here i'm here to talk about when we do now. i think that we have a mentality a lot that somebody needs to save us. you need to save us the department director needs to save us. city hall needs to saves. that does not work. we need to all work together. so i would recommend that we leave this meeting with a commitment that a few of you on the bic the director, some of us in the community go and talk at this time mayor's budget director and the chair and fix this. this year and going forward.
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the director was kind in words talking about the value of the programs. i don't think he is insincere i thank you when we need to do now is create a road map to keep the valuable programs in dbi and do it together. n is not a department upon mayor's office this . is not a staff versus staff. we need this collectively to solve. i hope the actions you take am is to garth with us and talk to the major's budget director and the chair. and make this help for fiscal 24-25 and the future. these are programs done with db oishgs for detectiveds. program nas belong in dbi and
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programs that hospital city. help aleaveiate homelessness and habit at. thank you for all of your help. i are lived in a private sro for years and volunteered there and i'm familiar with the conscience. conscience are terrible. and without programs to keep an eye on those conditions they would be even worse. i can assure you sro lands lords don't make repairs unless they are forced do so. also, my living there guess back
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before a let you that ended musical rooms of making tenants change rooms every 30 days. in order to prevenn them from acquiring rights. those were the order of the day without that they will become that again and will look outs. as situation is now, still occur. i urge you therefore to fully restore funding for both the collaboratives thank you. is there further comment in person. remote public comment if well is anyone on the line press star 3 to raise your hand if you would like to speak. okay. there are no hands raised that is general public comment is
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closed. we are now on item 4. nomination of subcommittee 4 aupdate from nomination of subcommittee. commissioner chan. thank you. before we get into this. i wanted to leave here with all those comments i comment you for coming up to speak. we do hear you. i believe all my commissioners here fellow commissioners and the department hearsay you this is a program that you know i believe dbi has been proud of. i wanted relay that to you this is in the something we anticipated here. thank you all for coming up and speaking. hello i think this item will come up throughout the agenda
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today as well. are we on item 4 now? yes. if there is no, commissioner comments. >> this is 4 aand b together. 4a update nomination subcommittee, 4b discussion and public action to appoint a member to code committee. term to expire august 10 of 25 and the member seek appointment is deepak patankar for historic preservation. iot nomination met before this meeting and we had met mr. patankar in our previous meeting. he has, ployed for the position of person qualified for historic preservation >> a practicing architect in the
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your for 30 years practicing with his own practice for the last 20 years. we recommend him to fill this position. and that was the sum row of our meeting here and the recommendation we provided to the group. like to make a motion to recommend deepak patankar to the code advisory committee. >> second. >> well is a motion and a second to recommend patankar for this position is there public comment on this motion? >> commissioners have questions? >> if not i will do a roll call vote on the item. >> president bito. >> yes. >> vice president tam.
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>> yes. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> yes. >> commissioner neumann. >> yes. >> commissioner sommer. >> yes. >> and commissioner shaddix. why yes. >> this carries unanimously. thank you for this appointment. mr. patankar could not be here today but did send a letter of gratitude in the case that the commission did appoint him and my apologies i will send this to you today. >> thank you. >> we are on to the next item. item 5. the discussion regarding data on permit signs i believe this item requested to be continued do we need a motion. >> motion to continue item 5. >> okay. thank you for the motion to continue. birch take a second is there anyone here that wanted to
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provide comment on item 5? okay. there was a motion to continue by vice president tam is there a second? >> second. >> are all in favor. >> aye. >> any opposed >> that item will be continued to the next meeting. item 6 discussion and possible action regarding board of supervisors ordinance file 230658 amending the building code increase fees charged by dbi by 15%. in addition to other requirements. why thank you very much. good morning. i'm carl legislative affairs manager for dbi. presenting this ordinance to amend the code to increase all dbi fees by 15% across the board. slides 2. as you know it was discussed this morning it is budget season
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for san francisco. and mayor breed submitted her proposal to the board in june including a numbered piece of legislation to fact that budget this ordinance buffer for recommendation is part of her budget submittal. the board is now considering that proposed budget before a final version in july. you are requested action today to recommend approval of this ordinance to the budget and appropriation's committee will have our second of 2 budget hearings at budget and appropriation committee tomorrow where they will recommend this ordinance to the full board of supervisors. and i mention third degree ordinance increase fees charged boy dbi15%. next slide. background information for you as you know the building code establishes all de feos for
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perits mitt and other services. and has been mention third degree morning it has been awhile since dbi increased fees. which was more then and there a decade go in 2009 inform 2015. fees were reduced by 7% from those 2009 levels. the proposed increase of 15% is roughly 8% over the 2009 values the adjustment in 2015 was a reduction. and the fee increase is necessary to off set dbi cost to provide services. the city's cost to provide services increased by 32% since fees were last adjusted in 2015. and -- important to note the mayor's budget mittal considered boy the board does assume 15%
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increase that is in the ordinance before you for your recommendation. >> code committee did consider this ordinance last week and they made a positive recommendation to you. the mittee suggested dbi review fees annually. on this note i will mention d bi conducts fee study which you know about. those it was not complete in time to incorporate in the budget for this fiscal year. pending results of this study may be adjustments for the next fiscal year or later. >> next slide. your requested action to recommend approval of this ordinance to the budget and appropriation's committee of the board of supervisors. happy to answer questions. thank you. do commissionerings have
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questions on this? sure. >> commissioner shaddix. >> thank you. just a random question 15 increase can we say maining it 16 and give every cbo here in this room everything they want and then some. because i continuing is clear that all of what we heard this morning you know we have effective groups doing incredible work in the communities. so -- are we able to do that might be for deputy city attorney can we i don't know if my fellow commissioners will be on board can we say recommend 16%. >> thank you for this question. you could make that recommendation that recommendation would go to the budget and appropriation's committee of the board of supervisors. who are then referring the ordinance to the full board of supervisors for adoption as part of the budget. you could make that recommendation and tell be up to thing legislation sponsor the
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mayor and her office or the budget and appropriation committee to accept this recommendation or not. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> i'd like to make a motion to increase fees by 25%. if the increase to staff costs has been 32% it is hard to understand why we would increase our fees for less. i'm open to other commissioners. that less but seems like the reduction in services across the board no matter what are with the 15% increase if we are costs of increase by 32% and we are only seek to recoup 15%. >> commissioner shaddix. >> and to follow up to commissioner alexander-tut if we
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raised another 10 or 15% can we stip lay they are dedicated to the k bo's for the this were all here this morning i'm not aware. i see deputy city attorney kapla. >> this is the way the ordinance setting the fee table you conditional make an appropriation as a committee on a line item nor through this ordinance. which is limited to where you would recommend setting the fees. noelt this there would need to being discussion with the city attorney regarding usability of fees not all fees are available to pay for cbo services it would likely be only the apartment licensee or fees directly related to the service.
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which would result in a need for a very, very significant can increase on that small that specific fee or a small subset of fees. so we could not do a general increase for everything permit fees likely not be eligible to be increased for this purpose. so. hold on a second commissioner neumann. >> yes. du want to speak. what if the will this 15% increase make dbi budget sfwhoel what is impact of this over all increase has there been a study to look at the impact is? this will funds dbi for the next 2 years however well is still a significance deficit in excess of 20 million dollars this is a first step of likely many small step its achieve e eliminate the
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deficit and balance revenues on going. >> i have a question before i get to commissioner alexander-tut. my question is that had you look at the reduction in 2015 the net increase is only 8% but the ordinance is proposing 15. to get a net 15 would you increase boy 23% to net a true 15% increase? you are basically taking a 2009 number and increasing 8%. that's a long time ago. >> well is a lot of nuance to fees. . the 2015 adjustment in the state code requires that fees only recover the amount modeed provide the service because of the huge boom in construction from twenty 10 onward, the
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department was collecting excess revenues, which credited a liability and technically possible low not legal. and so that is why the fees had to be reduce in the 2015. the adjustment now set at a level this is believed to not cause economic harm or affect the economics of now construction. >> understoodful thank you. commissioner alexander-tut and commissioner neumann. i'm confused because with like -- i just said this our staff increasing costs increased over 32%. am i correct. our staffing costs increased over 32% and costs the city 32% more to dot same activity.
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correct? >> 32% citizen increase in cpi from 20 felony to now. need to go back and look at expenditure amount in 2015 versus now. but i would not be surprised if it was in that same ballpark. in recovering it is cost of service, so what is rub? i don't understand that the rub is? against increasing making a recommendation that is higher than 15%? it seems like no matter when we do we are still behind we are behind the 32% increase i'm confused why well is resistance or -- justification for that -- is -- that the foes would not be paying had they are paying for if everything is increased?
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so drastically? want to be clear, dollar is no well, increasing the fee across the board does not necessary low provide funds that will be eli didn't believe to be used for the cbo's. only certain fees would be eli didn't believe for this use. and because it is 5 million dollars april it is a large amount concentrating this increase the license de feo or a small number of fees require i large increase. that is when i wanted make clear. >> that seems liabling a reinterpretation. does not seem like this interpretation of our funding has is the historic interpretation of our funding.
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>> i don't know i think this is most skrr much awe question for deputy city attorney and would likely require time to research which fees would be applicable to which costs and what the department's options are. and that's planned to be a part of our fee study and our detailed analysis we will propose for the next year. >> okay. >> my motion is just not an appropriation the motion a motion to increase the fees by a large are number. it is instead. i guess i have a motion on the floor. >> i like to commissioner
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neumann is next. to balance the conversation. i understand your point about make sure you don't increase fees so much that you digs incent rise had dbi purpose to facilitate projects and permitting. i think this is a balanced assessment of how much you increase the fees based on your last statement commissioner neumann. >> so the 15 percent increase is sufficient to get us through the immediate budgetary needs. and then there is this fee study that is more comprehensive this will look at what we are spending where and how we make up the difference. what is the timing on the fee study? and if we were to add the cbo's back in the budget could those be accounted for at the time of the fee study?
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the fee stealed be come leasted fall/winter. our contract is through october. with the consult hoont is doing the fee study. tell be completed then. and yes. we can build any assumptionings we want in the cost side. and then the costs spread through the fees based on our volume estimates and so, we have the flexibility to spruce that to the fee study. this may not be fair the fee study is in the done. do you participate the increases brought on by the fee study greater than that of 15% this is posed as across the board increase? >> sure. some very basic napkin math the appearance fee bring in 7 milling a year. cbo5 million of 5 divide by 7 is 70% increase required assuming that is the only fee eligible to
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fund those services. that is a rough ballpark of what the increase could be. >> this is a step in lieu of finishing that fee study to commissioner neumann's question. when does the department anticipate completing that fee study we talked about this in the past meetings. yof fall/winter. >> and in fall/wurnt we will have assessment on how much more and do we anticipate that it is going to be greater than 15% at this point based on this fee study? likely, yes. and then the next quell be going over the fees line by line. is this an accept the based on the math that the consultant does if one fee go up 500% is this manage we'll do. if we don't, on a specific fee then how will that funding be
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made up? so. there will be a lot of discussion. i anticipate a lot of discussion on individual line items when the results in out. i would like it make a motion to approve the 15% increase. >> is there a second. >> seconded. >> yes. there will be public comment on this item. i to being the motion and well is public comment now. okay. i'm sorry there was also a motion by commissioner alexander-tut was there a second for this? or i don't know. >> how to address it. you like to second
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alexander-tut's proposal. so there is a motion and second for that motion how does this help. why public comment. >> you are going to state your motion again alexander-tut. >> my motion recommend to the maker of the legislation to increase the fees to 25%. 25%. and commissioner shaddix seconded this is there public comment on the first motion? on this item in general then. >> guided as i'm going along >> thank you. i think dbi did a better job of building fees it would increase
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department ref now and funds the programs. one areas i think can improve on is reinspection fees. so you know when in inspector denieden real cost money to sends them out. you can penalize the property ordinance not making the property available. well is in reason that could not be done better. another area could be improved is dbi is violating the code had renews a permit expired permit with admin permit code says you have to follow a procedure. and assess fees. basically d b i is charging one
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dollar for admin permit it should be assessing the correct fees. further moore the misuse really facilitated final iegz will building permits that should never be finaled. the example i fwaf you this morning on 320 alemany avenue is a text box case. why were 4 building permits add men permits issued for building this were never expired in thank you. >> thank you. commissioners. i wanted peek in favor of increasing the de feos to 25%. has to pay for services. and it is a shame some of fees were not raised before.
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frank low our departments have not seen an increase in cost of doing business in years and that00 autofees are the only way to protect service of this person departmentful thank you. is there further comment. any remote public comment? press star 3 if you would like to raise your hahn. public comment is closed. we are back to the motion. so can you clarify how to handle this. >> deputy city attorney weium friday the ordinance before public comment to motions. i wanted make sure we preserved the first and second motion.
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i think the probably appropriate top have discussion on whether or not the board wants to increase the recommendation from 15 to another number and then arrive to whether consensus on a recommendation if you prefer not to have discussion and go to the row on the first 25% we have a second and so we do a roll call i leave that to the motion maker. >> commissioner alexander-tut and neumann and commissioner sommer and tam. i think we should go for a vote in process wise go for a vet on the motion if the opportunity for commissioners to speak if you would like to say 25 is too high i have somethingel to propose that can be part of the discussion and if not your appetite then you know we can about to a vote. >> i want to say this is about the department as a whole.
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and not about any line item. it is about we are hearing how inspectors are backed up. if you want to talk about fees the expensive thing i hear from people trying to remodel house is the time it takes to get them. yes tlshg is effort in to stream lining our processes. i can't imagine how a fee increase will increase the fees in order to increase to lower the time it takes to get through service all of our service. i would guess a likely gain for the public at large. because sro collaboratives come up i want to do my disclosure i worked for the sro collaboratives. i maintain friendships and
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relationships with the people who are associated and employed and receive services from the collaborative. but that is not cloud my judgment in any way and i speak as a line item at the line item not for any organization or individual. but i do believe that this line if 25% fee increase throughout fee stealed give us we have an 11 million dollars cut to our department. that's the collaborative and other city services that our department is supposed to provide. and if we have the opportunity it increase the service and to increase services to preserve our services i recommend and we have obviously the political well to increase the fees at some level i would encourage and that's all this motion does encourage the person who is the
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sponsor of this legislation to increase the fees to 25%. >> commissioner neumann. i would like to say the fee raise is only effective if we are collecting fees which means that people have to continue to build in the city. the 15% increase across the board seems reasonable to mow to get us throughout immediate budget short fall and we than we are looking at the full fee study and we will -- intent is to solve the birth budgetary short falls. so that's all i will say on the issue. >> commissioner sommer. >> i agree with commissioner neumann. this ordinance seeps like the stopgap in between now and when we do the right sizing of the
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fees. for the based on the fee studies on going now. noted like they come from nowhere they criminal from homeerns, developers and trying to make it pencilut to get the budget as well. we -- i would support the ordinance as it stands. and i'm -- okay with including language about a minimum no one fiwould be bold to say 25% that is how i would phrase it. >> thank you. i'm in line with increasing the fees or proposing an increase. . you know regular an exit plan for tw years. and leaving out the organizations is something i'm
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not comfortable with if we will increase the fees i want enough to be able to accommodate the community and organizations. after hearing and seeing the w they do in the community. i feel an increase is necessary above 15%. i would like to add my comments to commissioner neumann and sommer i agree with their assess. i think to commissioner tam's point. we are grandparenting a number this has in the been assesses. i think this in light the fees
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intention is to -- increase as slowly as possible. and given the balance that the department has. to be able to operate. it is zero how can you say that is funded through 50% of the fiscal year? no it starts july 1. can you repeat the question. why my understanding commissioner neumann asked the cbo line item funded through the rest calendar year.
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a vet to next the fee to 25% boy commissioner alexander-tut and seconded by commissioner shaddix. do a role call row? president bito. >> no. >> vice president tam. >> yes. >> commissioner alexander-tut. why yes. >> commissioner neumann >> no. and commissioner shaddix. >> yes. >> and commissioner sommer. >> no. this is 3-3. so it does not have a major so it doesn't motion does in the pass. it fails. next we -- is there another
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motion? i propose to pass the ordinance at 15%. >> is there a second? >> deputy city attorney kapla the recommend approval with or with changes this would be you recommend to the board approval. >> is there a second on this motion? second. >> i doll a roll call vote. president bito. >> yes. >> vice president tam. >> no. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> no. >> commissioner neumann. >> yes. why commissioner shaddix. >> no. >> commissioner sommer. >> yes. >> so same. so what do we do?
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needs to be a discussion and a motion has to be a majority. everybody can discuss when they would like to do. repoe that. when do we do. further discussion. need to be able to recommend approval of the motion or the ordinance as it stands disapproval or approval with recommended changed we are the i stalemate it does not have to be one or the other can be sorry. go ahead >> we are one motion recommend approval with the change to 25% that failed. we had another to recommend approval as is. without changes that failed. so we can need to either the board needs to say we don't recommend approval and pass it
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on or not come to consensus or recommend approval with a modification. can we -- can we go in order. commissioner shaddic you were first. >> thank you i was going to success we split the difference. voting to approve with a 20% increase newscasted 25 would that convince one of you to move the other direction. commissioner neumann. i think we don't have enough this is an enterprise agency we don't understand enough exact low had we mode in order to operate. we have an idea when our short falls are. and this is meant to be a stopgap not a solve for the department's budget problem. and so i really thank you we
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need to focus on that and be looking forward to the fee study and thinking about what the priorities in the budget are. and how we are going to take care of those. we have not had a rise in fee in a language time. this will be a huge stick are shock to builders and developers and -- anything we can do to sort of i think -- step that in slowly over time will serve the city over all. um -- i think we have we don't want to do too much as once. >> thank you, commissioner neumann. birch go on. i'd like to understand what people mean by enterprise. dbi is not a for profit department of the >> they have to cover their own
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budget. >> understood but i don't want the term to be confusing when you use the term enterprise it may be seem for profit. dbi has to balance their budget like any for our nonprofit organization. when you call it an enter prize it mice give impression dbi is you know trying to make a profit which is not what the intent of this increase in fee or the fee study. i'm in the trying to pickow i heard this a couple time in thes public export to be clear. >> may be it warrantied steaking a moment to understand what that means. you know this exactly had it means what would you define i'm sorry i forget your last nime. alex? you want to defind when
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enterprise mean its used with city departments like airport puc, mta and it is that the department must recover costs through its fees rather than support from the general fund. okay. making when i hear that word i hear something capitolistic this is my own impression. commissioner tam. i was thinking may be in the line. i think that there should be an increase can we make a note the allocation of the increase like to 17% that 2 would be allocated to programs. how does this work. i think you could make a yes or no if was there consensus we -- recommend prove with at least a 15% function but consider other increases that would fully fund the programs in our proposed
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budget. that is general enough to provide guidance. the as you know the recommendation to not bind the board of supervisors butt person thing you discuss a range of options if the board were to come up with an increase they don't refer it become you don't consider this increase the fact you consider an increaseum to 25% means the board if they decided to increase above this would between 15 and 25% not refer back to you for consideration. it was something considered by the bic at this time. >> right. attorney kapla. there is a refer feral back if the board torch pass the ordinance or pass amendments and say they were to change the fee to 17% or 17.5 any other changes as language as in the range discussed. they would not stend become and
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wit to have another meeting to discuss that. but if the board were to recommend 32% or 42% increase in fees that was not discussed here at this time than i have to come back. commissioner sommer and commissioner alexander-tut. >> i would be comfortable recommending seems like we agree recommending the ordinance at a minimum. i would be comfortable saying with recommendations to potential low up to 20%. and it is -- people noted nothing in this ordinance talks about allocation and to fund the cb oshg consideration. nothing we talk period in the ordinance or that is on the table at the moment would fully fund that as there are small
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piece of the budget this can go to this fund thanksgiving is a separate conversation. we can all mention that if we are we are in support of that. finding a way to carve that back in the budget. it is a bilt of a separate conversation. i would -- deputy city attorney, robbery kapla made the motion i agree with. i believe that the deputy city attorney the yes or no motion recommend approval of the ordinance with the recommendation that further increases up to 20% considered. i would be in support of this, commissioner sommer. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> state the motion. we are going through our
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discussion. i would support this and i would encourage we use the language of recommending to allocate recommending to increase in order to funds the programs this were cut. program and services this were cut. and keep this vague but have that specific guidance moving forward. i would recommend that you be specific about it because i think one of the things that the commission has voice side we don't necessary low want to increase fees for applicants but this would be the recommended increase to 20% the go would to cbo programs i think this is the intent of when this discussion hen if we are looking at an increase it is for some of the
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programs this have been raised. is that allowed. we can't make an appropriation decision. nothing the bic can do can binds determined we discuss today and the recommendation for another item passed would be we recommend increases up to 20% to that would pin it to the budget propose in the passed by bic. we saw which had the items. you are referring to an item you passed. wait. commissioner neumann. or are we open to perhaps the language of a minimum of 15%. i can't shake that a 20% jump in fees across the board i'm not comfortable making that
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recommendation that seems aggressive. 15 all seems aggressive but if this is what is necessary at the moment to get through our budget short falls that is what needs to be done. gift them the tune to do this. >> i understand it you are saying that 15% is the minimum i say 15 is the max for increase fees. and additional 5% is a recommended increase for the dbi's budget is had i heard if city attorney rob kapla, right?
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>> i condition make substantive motions the example motion i proposed was recommend approval at 15% increase with recommendation the board to consider further increases not your recommending 20% you recommend than i consider them as necessary. to and if you want to a recommendation to funds the department as referred in the dj binge don't have the item number for the budget proposal. the special meeting. recommend being the additional 5% to prove had a line item
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budget in a line item in dbi's budget i am the cap to the commissioner neumann's point at 15% the additional 5 is serving other purposes at dbi discretion. you can't. ordinance will across the board. >> the ordinance is an across the board increase. why are we talking about additional 5%. people want more of an increase. that 20 percent would go to fees in general. >> ordinance is written 15% krosdz the board and you can either we had a motion to approve with 15% next. the competing motion discussion
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has been wlchl dom a 20% or 25% increase or recommend the board that 15% minimum we recommend they consider incoming up to 20%. that will be across the board. like to make a motion to keep 15 percent a minimum up po to 20%. as an increase. i will second that. so there is a motion and a second. could i offer -- amendment to pin it to budget that was passed
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will [inaudible]. july first. i wanted to clarify that sounded like it was confusion. thank you for look at increased fees. i'm not comfortable increase to 20. >> deputy city attorney there was a motion with the second. so. >> this is [inaudible] i'm the acting managers of [inaudible]. i have about 30 plan [inaudible]
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under my watch. so i want to plead to the commission as a public citizen and as the experience that city employee wing for the department for 29 years. doing plan check. that -- the engineering and the building inspectors doing plan check through the last 5-6 years we have losing positions. i'm working 2 levels below my classification. i'm working class by 2 levels. the positions i'm holding used to be 52 [inaudible] engineer 2 levels above what i'm working on. so -- in the proposed budgets we
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try resume back the we have i flattened organization we have 2 [inaudible] plan checkers working in the plan checking division. so -- i need to the commission to see we can resume the positions cut from our budget to have i fully functional plan check department. and over the years, i think that you know management position and e red away and never get put back in position. that's the private citizens and employee the mraedz i have for the board. . we're thank you for this comment public comment. um we are back to the motion are
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we red to do a vote? what is repeat the motion. will recommend. say that again. it is motion was to i was going off deputy city attorney robbery la's wording there. recommending moving the 15% increases with a moving forward with 15% where wouldation of another 5% capping at 25%. >> that's the megz that you made that's where it has a second. >> yes. >> that was the motion. president bito. >> okay. can i seconded it. are we ready for a vote.
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>> apparently. president bito. >> no. >> vice president tam. >> yes. >> commission alexander-tut. >> yes. >> commissioner neumann. >> no. >> commissioner shaddix. >> yes. >> commissioner sommer. >> yes. >> that carries 4-2. thank you. so -- next we are on to item 7 update on vacancy tax. the min corridors what dbi shows as vacant. store fronts. >> throughout chair i did in the anticipate this is something i robbery wing on and finally land in the front of us i realize this was an expensive mote and still going and have a
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closed session ahead. i don't know how you would feel would you be able to through the chair. have them come back next hearing or do you want to continue i'm going forward i was hoping. why we can go forward with the agenda item and we can move forward other agenda items on the should we do this now. do we want it at the time. >> at the time we go ahead with this and discuss. >> we have potential to move forward number 11 exit would actually move forward on the minutes i did in the seat minutes, either. unless i missed those. i think i locked at everything. >> can we discuss what items we'll continue after this item? discuss the item and then
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continue after this. why yea. >> >> thank you. good afternoon commission members. i'm charles robinson i over see clerical staff at dbi and in the code enforcement section. i understand that there is a commissioner or 2 that has an interest in knowing and understanding how dbi tracks and enforces the vacant store front ordinance. right. we have a slide if we can go ahead. next slide. so. the definition of what makes a store fran vacant. so one, unyou occupied and secondly, can be any combination of the following.
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unoccupied, unsecured or secured by boarding or similar means. unoccupy exclude unsafe. has multiple code violations. or unoccupied for more than 30 days. the ordinance was introduced in 20 praen and went in affect and updated in 2019. it requires property owners to register. and inform dbi of the vacancy within 30 days. well is an annual registration fee of 711 dollars. um and if they do not comply with registration with registering -- there is aplied penalty of 4 times the actual
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registration fee of 711. it is important to note that db oishgs does not actively seek out the vacancies. there are 2 avenues which they come. so to peek on dbi's radar. one is self registration. the vast majority is complaint. dbi will over see a complaint and add it and do research. we add it to vickancey data sheet and which then we have 2 inspectors dedicated to the program they will go out and do afternoon inspection if they deem it warrantied to the -- maintain -- remain on the data the data sheet and we will begin process of contacting them by warning and notice of violation.
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so. again it is important to note that dbi does implement vacancy tax that is by the treasure and tax collector. we do a responsible for mow to speculate how they collect their data db oishgs does have did the available for any agency that is interested. and needs it to apply to their own processes. so over time, had become pertinent that the process in which we were maintaining sheets would require a more robust
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mechanism as of now we have been going through data clean up. we have -- our management information system division that is assisting us and they are in the process and finaliing an app which will increase transparency. it will make reporting, let easier and efficient and will be vowable to the public. next slide. so the nature of the nature of the list is dynamic. so you know you vac an one mobile home and then a couple months later you are occupy exclude may be vacant again.
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this app will help us create more accurate reporting and more like live stroll in terms of keeping track of the vacancies. so. unfortunately in the past dbi was not good at once we knew property was vacant we were not really -- following up on the properties. this will allow us to follow up with properties in which the last known status was vacant. if had is no longer the case a simple fix the property owners condition tact us and provide necessary information and we will remove them. we had missed, lot of property in the past and this is our means of fixing that. i believe that is the last
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slide. >> we are in the process of making it vowable by district. this is the last step we add to it. the app will be available in a couple months. unfortunately i know there is interests in specific corridors. in dbi is incapable of identifying those corridors. but at lest we do so by district. are there questions about how this is applied or. commissioner shaddix you want to? thank you. thank you, charles if you can go back to that slide and show district maps. the twhoon we looked. there it is. claire fighting those at home and glued to sets. the the vacancies you see in the
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listings those are a yes or no number in the districts. they are not -- they will be lower then and there that. because the ordinance itself is to zoom in on named commercial corridors look at third street that is about 8 blocks long. so -- the maps are showing districts good to know. and the important thing here is i agree that the tax collector will imposing this. the best reporting i found with tw inspectors the best are neighborhood folks themselves. people who walk in their corridors that and -- you know so. i appreciate and i know i have been working with some of you for a language time to this. if moving in the right direction and i'm hoping is that future
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meeting have the tax collector begin to show us data as to of all of these that dbi is showing how many the tax collector show and how are the 2 going to work together. we are on your way to that. i want to say thank you to dbi i know you take a lot of calls from meet the last 4-5 years thank you. >> thank you. appreciate. >> thank you. if you can stay up for other questions i have a couple questions about temperature commissioner shaddix the crux of this tax and vacancy tax occurs after 6 months is this correct? why 182 days. wham is the purpose of this is this to incent sunrise business owners to have grounds floor
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occupied; is that correct? that's correct this is to hold on the vacant property. or store front. this came about through the voter initiative this paddled by 2 thirds of the voters before we heard of covid. this was to encourage. it is a stick but not a big stick. it is to encourage and motivate property ordinance leaving the vacant store fronts in corridors. get them motivated to get a tenant in there. there is even temp refer use permits that you don't have to sign a lease. can you do a 6 month. there is a legality of tools to do this. but sometimes have you to compel property owners and give them a nudge. it is not huge but this is talks
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to specific individuals throughout the city throughout corridors. >> deputy city attorney, i should advise nat base i for the ordinance is to levigate blight and dangerous conscience empty store fronts can have. >> only question i have and i are mixed perceptions about this is that you know -- machine had own a mercial property at the ground flower if you have a dent service. the mote vision is highway to have that filled. and -- to commissioner shaddix's point it it is a stick. and it -- i guess the question is who are the the bad players who don't make an effort to try to have the ground floor spaces
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ocpied. to me it is i owned commercial property. so it is counter intuitive. this you own a commercial property with a ground floor retail and not be incent sunrised to have that you know a tenant there. when are we targeting this this is a problem for the city that have to credit a program to tax them. to get a tenant. why i imagine mag it is the bad players the owners of the properties that are holding out for higher rent. right? so -- in this climate i don't know when the market rate is for commercial space but there may be an owner speculating that there will be i turn around in a year let me sit on this property. opposed to filling it.
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and and -- second low -- they may just neglect the property in the meantime the department city attorney pointed out well is blight the major issue now. i'm curious if taxing commercial property owners would further incentivize. when you look at what is helping to san francisco even the biggest retail near downtown is basically leaving. you know. a number of huge big box retailers are leaving. you know if those companies are in bad shape how much more for the single commercial property
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owner? so i understand that were trying reduce blight is a crucial problem. i'm i have mixed feelings about the stick and the carrot you put in frontave property owner to do this? >> sorry. it is important to note the tax aspect is not follow in db oishgs this is the tax collector we enforce the ordinance. . jury room deputy city attorney the building code changes in 2014-19 they were then pacific to commercial store fronts. our jurisdiction in the city ability through regulations and building code is related to the risk that blight and buildings would be and the money collected in registration is to enter enforce export don't have dangerous conditions.
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it it is not within our purvow but our inventory used for determining how the assessor would assess but don't impelement the taxes collected. jot how do you med aware of these vacant buildes through a complaint. not. like if you have a bad neighborhood that does not like you db oishgs will learn about the city will learn about temperature it is in the an abjective assessment by the city that x amount of retail is vacant thus low they will be taxed in 6 mont fist than i don't fill.
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i think if you saw it had we are trying to do it would make sense i agree we are last thing we want to do is upset retail. we are encouraging people to come. and i have the same feeling about like residential rental properties you have landowners that are like -- they don't live there or know when is going on.
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and if i may. through the chair >> to answer your question. there is really has not been a great system of identifying vacancies. 311 up to sick months was not -- that good at getting those unless there was something serious broken windows or kick in the door this thing. so they got a lot better there is i wish i asked to put the link up. dollar is a new link through 311
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have you low options. you can report i rakancey or blight or you want to self report. it is quick and easy but to to your question is -- is there communication with neighborhoodses groups. >> i don't. we are not done out reach that's hay hope we dot roadshow. we will take it on the road and i'm happy to do that, too. and visit neighborhoods commercial corridor and show them how. and what constitutes blight or a vacant store front and hoping charles you will ride with me. you can go, too. >> if retail or commercial property owner makes the attempt to seek out a tenant whether a
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listing or -- sign on the store front does this aleve retail. i don't know if we have other kwles is noack >> no. a reporting. >> so there are no other questions thank you very much. presentliation is there public upon comment on this item? any remote? thank you. >> thank you for your time >> thank you. so at this point president bito would you like to discuss the
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items to hear and to continue. weer number -- number 8. yes. i would like to make a motion to continue 10 and 11. i was not clear are the meeting minutes available i downloaded everything in e mill not through the -- no these other minutes for the special meeting they were appropriated by planning secretary and i just -- submitted them for your commissioner review. if you want to continue this is fine. i like to continue i have not read them. if the commission is okay continue 10 and 11? >> second. why and is there is a motion and a second to continue 10 and 11
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wrchl motion to continue 10 and 11. >> second. is there public comment. >> and anyone come to comment on those items? is there remote? there is no public comment. so our american in favor of continuing? >> aye. >> opposed? >> that items continued to the next meeting. so -- we are item 8 commissioner questions and matters. 8a inkwoiry to staff. commissioners mimake inquiries regarding document, policy and practice and prers of interest to the commission and 8b future meeting and agendas. the commission may discuss take action set the date of i and mote and determined when can be
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accompliceod the agenda in future meetings. july meeting is the 19th. >> i have a question. pertaining to -- the -- vote that we took to recommend. is it possible to amend my vote or is it possible to recommend a piece of legislation but not support the recommendation. the additional recommendations? deputy city attorney as an individual commissioner. this would be what no vote indicated. >> i wanted clarify. we are on aand b. i would like to make recommendation for future agenda and what discuss the did thea on permitting time and that's you know on the appending the work that planning and d bi has done
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for the development permit review. so -- one is00 autodata regarding permit and other update on the development review permit process. and -- focused on effort on that. thank you the other items proposed items for commissioners? >> so i was confused by the budget process. we made recommendation. i thought it was making a recommendation this we were creating a policy framework that the originally presented budget was not manage we were our policy direction. and then we passed the budget. and then there was a budget that was negotiated that did in the seem to follow our policy recommendation. or policy thinking. i would like to have both
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informational on what is our budget authority as a commission. and clarification on a possible action item to clarify our policy or credit i policy that addresses the commissiony budget authority or clarifies it if it is in the clear. >> okay. all right. thank you. is there other other items if not then. repriz this. i don't understand your question. i like an informational item where the commission hears about what our authority is budget. do we just recommend do we recommend policy. like what is our commission's authority. and in this discussion have the
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pot of an action item that would credit a policy we have to notify. right n. process of a discussion we realize well is perhaps one of our rowel system not clear. or there being be a better rowel than we could have the authority as a commission to adopt that. by majority not one person. is this manage this city attorney could clarify rather quickly? or not. >> the department city attorney. the charty building section commission the authority to recommend the staff's proposed budget at this time mayor. and once the we propose a budget and bic prosecute poses a budget to the mayor, mir puts the budget together for the city and make determinations after that. obviously i am not proposing taking power away from the mayor in any way.
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but is there policy tunes for policy clarification and direction from the commission toward the staff in the negotiations? understand we cannot behold the mayor to any action. and. it is a recommendation we can make on the budget is had i heard. why beyond i say beyond the dollars and cents right the line by line but if there are cuts i expect i hope it is in the true we will go in another year there is a potential for short fall can we give policy direction or recommendations to the staff? . with -- of -- if you -- if this is budget not accepted these are our values and the process we like to you recommend and follow. deputy city attorney i believe
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this is hat budget recommendation is had budget is proposed by staff you have the opportunity to express that is important in the budget and then what you want to be include and it is sent to the mir. i don't think we you have00 eye think what you are proposing is a line item veto by staff at the direction of bic. >> it will be more like this is our budget and if you this is a big budget we would like prefer a krosdz the board 5% cut or a you know -- explore staffy reasons before layoff. you know things of this nature where we give policy direction of our ruand preference as a commission. without that would give the staff the policy perspective of
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the commission. we are not in those negotiations. and nobody come become to say thshg is when we negotiated thumb'sum or down. we don't have that authority. we get the first by the apple and so because we only have the first by the of the apple, is there a way in to allow us to set you know, a -- if sometimes the budget directions come after we approved. if well is another 10% or further ask this is the process likely to consider in the negotiation. we can't hold people to negotiations. >> deputy city attorney kapla, i think general directives but general policy considerations or narrative of the importance of priorities is find to pass as
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recommendation along with the budget. but you would not be able to give directives on how to negotiate -- are we done with a and b. >> yes. >> any public comment on 8a and b. >> we are on number 9 director's report 9 a. update. >> good afternoon president bito and members of dbi. i will be brief i know it hen a long meeting. first i want to thank you for thought conversation about our budget. i also want to note it hen the extremely budget season required difficult decisions. and among the most challenging i had to make in my 2 decades at dbi. this is not who we want to do.
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but what we have to do. at the score we are regulators charged with enforcing the legal code requirements before and after a building is built. we do have -- to do with it because of the limited funds we generate law through permit and fees. regardless of challenges we will continue to make sure san francisco built requirement is code compliant and safe for residence. this will continue on be our priority. and moving on to an item relate to staff recognition. and the commune event. next i want to share dbi will anticipate inspect community event this weekend with chinese real estate association of america.
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dbi engineer riffian wang will attend and answer question and provide information. thank you, vice president tam for suggesting. this is a great opportunity for community out reach. and final low i want to share customer feedback this month that made mow smiechl danielle well u rescue noises right-hand kwoen a technician in code services saying, thanks ronalda, and team dbi i'm impressed by the immediate help and care you all provide. whether through phone, e mill or in person. you are a shining example of the kindness we treasure in our beloved city. we prioritize improving customer service. it it is gratifying for mow to get this type of positive feedback from a customer. greation rhonda and team d bi. that concludes my directory
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report. >> thank you. next update on major projects. >> thank you. the following slides intended highlight volume and evaluation projects costing five million or more. that have been filed issue issued or complete in the the past month. we will profile a few this bring high raul in terms of their contributions to housing and community assets. in may 4 applications with estimated construction value of five million or more were filed. one for a new park at transbay block 3.
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rauled 13. 6 million. and another for a major restore egg of affordable housing building 42111worthy at 10 million. last among 5 permits with evaluation of 53 million. one for i major project renovation at of congregation 2 lake street. valued at 21.5 millionful another is for kruck of a new 35 unit condo at 915 north point street which was valued at 12.2 millionful and -- lastly dbi finaled within high value permit for the construction of 94 affordable housing units. within 45 leavenworth in new t
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well residence den development. thank you. >> thank you. next is -- i have a question for director o'riordan one thing we discussed prior in the major projects could we include the permitting timeless this is you know the crux of- plan and db oishgs is doing. in terms of develop examine permit review reform. we don't vice president to do it today, director o'riordan in the future i like ton when manage is come leasted so we have a baseline understanding between the projects that happened in the past and the projects that we are moving toward and trying to expedite. i think a good base line and ties out to the data we request for the next meeting. why absolutely. i know we touchod this in the
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left meet and i did have the discussions with staff we like to find out more from you in regard to exactly what we can do to provide when you are requesting. the thing i'm requesting what matters to an applicant and architect who is submitting a time they submit and pay fee and can you parse out what is plan and dbi spent their review and technical review and also parse out what others review like public ws or whatever. you know mechanical, electric and electric in dbi purview. and knowing from beginning to end when permit issued the time submitted to issued that is the entire time line. can you percent it between this but the entire time line i like to understand as a commission. >> absolutely. i think the time line is the
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budget as well. we are almost all the wayllow the year. no surprises from no changes from left month and don't expect any surprises through then of the year end down 5 and a half million dollars in revenue from when was budgeted. these are the pacific amounts that we project to receive, no changes from the prior month. on expent tour side we continue to foresee as expected. we project ending the year with 3 opinion 2 million dollars savings twhan and the deficit end the year down 2.2 million dollars. use an additional 2.2 million dollars of our reserves from when we had expected at the beginning of the year.
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no changes from left month and no prizes expected for the end of the year. next among or in july or -- august when the books are closed we will provide a final ash counselling of the year. next slide. >> permit rolfe um as it has for the past few months we under perform slightly compared to the same time left year down 10% in rolfe um and evaluation. here other amounts. next slide, please. this slide shoes the changes to the proposed fitsical year 23-24 and 24-25 budget. so.
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the difference between sorry. had we had proposed in the department phase the budget before you in february and the damage this the mayor released on union first. so -- as you know the most significant change is the cb oshg community grant funds were removed. and whereveroed out for the 2 budget years. on the revenue side. we were the 15% ref now we had already assumed 18% revenue reduction in our department's mission however within the major's budget we are asouffléing a 15% fee increase. so we are revenues are growing by that amount. allowed you to rouse our use fund balance. to we are using all in our
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diameters submission we assumed more funds balance than we did. we knew there was a problem this needed to be dealt with in the major's phase of the budget. and that hole has been closed. on the position side. some of the major labor changes included on the previous slide here is the detail of those. 4 new positions proposed in the department phase. an analyst and engineer. and a permit technician and building inspector than i have been removed in the mayor phase and a few substitutions. of -- building plans engineer to engineer those were also removed in the major's budgetful so -- these other major budget change and i would be happy to answer
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questions on the budget process and where we are now what is left to come in the final wragz of the budget. anybody on the commission with questions. >> can you walk us through the budget process going forward? >> now we are in the board of supervisor's phase of the budget. they are holding hearings. there was one last wednesday where we gave a presentation on what the department s. what it does. the values. and the high level look at our budget. so -- i gave a similar presentation i fwaf to the bic sdus discussion the financial position. fund balance and use and exhaust
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union. and tomorrow -- there will be an of the board of budget analyst, which is -- third party employed by the board of supervisors they have been analyzing the department's budget the past few week and they are formulating recommended further changes to the budget. those are always in practice redysfunctions further and so -- we have negotiated a further amount of reduction that the department believes can accept and that will be presented tomorrow. so -- we will give up an additional 10 thousand dollars of materials and supplies budget from when is shown. and some continuing budgets and being closed. assuming that in the meeting
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tomorrow will be the board supervisors asking us are we in agreement with the analyst who will report this we are. and then hopeful low the committee will recommend adoption of the amended budget to the full board of supervisors the full board will then discuss and hopeful low approve and then the mayor signs and sends it to the mayor and mayor signs and gives final approval on august first. one additional step i forgot to mention anything in the phase the board of sprierdzs not allowed to increase the side of the city budget they can reduce or reallocate. and anything they thought they can add back for a different purpose, so -- upon dbi does not
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get add backs. and funds that are cut from dbi's budget by the board can only be used for or dbi purposes because dbi is funded boy building inspection fund limited use special revenue fund. in this can is there is an tounlt for the burden to reallocate yes or no fund cuts elsewhere and other departments to dbi had is choose to do so. that's not likely, though. >> it is in the a typical thing we have seen and we will see. i know well are lobby efforts going on now. i like to say one thing before commissioner alexander-tut. that00 autothings we have been talking about or that i personal low focussed on stroll lining the permit process because this
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promoting race equity in our service delivery system. and we are not sure if language and cull roll competency is a core service. it is a core delivery will our service. i think that people believe that. i think that it is this -- relines on these are core services is malt is in the reflected everything said. so. these. decisions that were made. but i don't think that having cultural comp 10 language access and education of service theory not known is outside of our core service. i have to make that statement of the >> thank you. commissioner alexander-tut. on item d.
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director's report update on enacted state legislation. >> hi, commissioners. i have i broef update on activities for the department. slide 2. start with 3 ordinances passed by the board of supervisors that will be effective in ordinances effective 30 days after of the mayor signs or 10 days effective if show does in the sign within 10 days. first listed i permit fee wifr for mifor mall businesses instuling and replacing an awning the mayor signod june second it is retroactive for may of 23. an ordinance require facade inspection reports for buildings constructed ever 98 and 15 stories or more mir signd that on may 26 of 23. the next upon ordinance
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effective is a permit prioritization task force with plan and public works to recommend prioritization guide lines reviewing and issues permits the mayor return today unsigned and in i letter said the departments will operate under guidance of directive to increase permitting times by early next year. the mayor did not sign does in the voteo it will it be law. familiaring ordinances are making way throughout press and none move to you. first amending plan and building codes for, dappive reuse. nonresidentialal. passed at the board on union 13th and final reading next tuesday june 27. there was an ordinance crediting an amnesty program with stream line process for bringing them
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in complianceful land use recommended to full board with amendments. that owner will have the first reading next tuesday june 27. familiar with this one from special meeting last week supervisor safai's ordinance to amend the building code on out line the site permit application. we expect land use to hear this on july 10th >> and the mittee will make ail recommendation to the board of supervisors. the last local peeves legislation on the next slide to mention is the one you discussed our increase to amend the building code fees 15%. a couple state legislation to keep you updated on greatest consequence to dbi is ab1114 matt hene bill entitle am permits. that will legislation is under
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review by the state senate governors and finance and the state senate housing committee. i will stop there, happy to answer questions >> expand on the task force on 23 where are 167. the permit prioritization? this ordinance call on the director of dbi and planning and the director of public works and the president of the board of supervisors to apoint someone to join the task force to create guidelines recommendations to these department and prioritizing permits. permit review. would be advisary only and -- the guide lines would come to the bic for rerue and approval. so returned it unsigned but it still is going to be returned unsignd and did not voteo it. also at the board had a high
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enough votes it would be voteo prove. she said in her letter to the board the mayor said thought this created unnecessary bureaucracy and the departments are already working together and separate low to reduce processing times. >> okay >> task force has no authority. >> right. >> thank you. >> next on item e update on inspection service. i'm matthew grown for inspection service i will provide an update on performance of our inspection services division. in may building commission conducted 10, 713 inspections
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then % in 2 business days meeting the target of 90%. in the same among housing inpension 1, 029 with 209 routine multifamily housing. the building electric and plumbing received 446 complaints and responded it 100% within 3 business days exceeding the target of 85 percent 74 cases to director hearing. our housing inspection service received there are safety and holt complaint and independented 88% within a day received 368 others and independented 92% within 3 day, inspection service, bait the 42 cases and sent 36 on to director hearing. thank you that concludes my
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report i'm visible for questions you may have. >> no questions. >> thank you. is there public comment on the director's report? items. none in person or remote. and so we have voted continue victims 10 and 11. so next would be adjournment unless other. why before to adjournment i wanted to say that you know all of us as the entire commission terms out on july first at noon. so -- we may or may not see each other in july. and i know that i have enjoyed working with all of you and i hope to see you including myself you know next among. biwanted give a chance for other commissioners to say something
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and i know this commissioner tam wants to have parting words. >> so. as you know we are coming up on term july first dp i will in the be joining this commission next term. i want to take this time to the really thank all my fellow commissioners. i learned past and present. being here because of people think we are here we get paid we do not this . is a duty of passion. compassion dp i, mraud all of you i learned a lot here and a lot from the department and director and the entire staff at dbi i learned from sonya. and you know i want to take the moment to thank all of you. i mean. just for myself born and raised in china town you minot then and there 5 high schools. i never would have guessed i would sit here amongst you.
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i hold this dear to my heart and enkwourj anyone who wants serve to do it. it would be life changing and you can make an impact i felt who stays or guess i'm leaving the department better than when i first started with it. so, thank you so much. >> we will miss you commissioner tam. with the mission this in the all of us are not sure who is coming back. none the less we will miseach other. i will be around of anything else before we make a motion to adjourn? motion to adjourn. >> seconded. >> thank you we are adjourned it is 1:21 p.m.
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hi, i'm patrick and welcome to another episode of stay safe? the second part we're retrofitting the triple wall as you can see we've installed one of the sheer ply wall on the first episode we provided blocking to secure the ply we'd and bolted and provided the connection with the floor i'm joined by thor madison. >> thor structural engineers and thor knows more about sheer
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walls than anybody i've met in my life. >> it provides the stable ability that would rock before and after during around earthquake the nails along the edge of the plywood will reduce the chance of the building falling down. >> what else should we consider in getting ready. >> one thing about plywood a natural material that absorbs moisture and the panels can swell depending on the moisture if they swell they'll bulk out it is important probation officer leave a gap between the panels so before we install the next panel we'll drive in a couple of nails used to as temporary spares. >> what are the nails.
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>> 16 penny singers a good saying that and we don't need to be concerned with the exact nail size only the gap the next panel will be held with the existing panel we'll pull those down. >> we have peter from the construction why not go outside and cut our second panel so, now we've got the plywood let's go ahead and get it put up
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see if we can get it in place. >> by looking at that a perfect fit why not get peter in here to nail it down. >> so peter did a great job with the nailing but important to know this work requires a permit in the department of building inspection whether you're doing the work or a left hand contractor make sure you have the proper permit and additional to the nailing anything you want to talk about thinking about the plywood. >> the more plywood to install the better and make sure that the nails along each edge of each panel so you can't forget
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start the business and retire and i did was very important to me so i bought them oust and two weeks later the pandemic h-4 one of the moments i thought to myself we have to have the worse business in a lifetime or the best. >> we created the oasis out of a need basically so other people bars and turning them into a space and when the last place we were performing wasn't used turned those buildings into condos so we decided to have a
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space. >> what the pandemic did for us is made us on of that we felt we had to do this immediately and created this. >> (unintelligible). >> where we would offer food delivery services with a curbside professionalism live music to bring spectacular to lives we are going through and as well as employ on the caterers and the performers and drivers very for that i think also for everyone to do something. we had ordinary on the roof and life performances and with a restaurant to support the system where we are and even with that had terribly
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initiative and hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt had to pay our rent we decided to have an old-fashioned one we created club hours where you can watch to online and or be on the phone and raised over one quarter of a million dollar that of incredible and something that northbound thought we could do. >> we got ourselves back and made me realize how for that people will show up if i was blown away but also had the courage but the commitment now i can't let anyone down i have to make the space serviceable so while this is a full process
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business it became much more about a space that was used by the community. and it became less about starting up a business and more about the heart of what we're doing. this building used to be a- and one of the first one we started working on had we came out what a mural to wrap the building and took a while but able to raise the money and pay 5 artists to make a design around many this to represent what is happening on the side and also important this is who we are this is us putting it out there because satisfies other people we don't realize how much we affect the community around there when he i want to put that out there and show up and show ourselves outside of those walls more
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>> it is one of the first steps families and step to secure their future and provide a sense of stability for them and their loved ones. your home, it is something that could be passed down to your children and grandchildren. a asset that offers a pathway to build wealth from one generation to the next. and you need to complete estate plan to protect the asisets. your home, small business, air looms and more.
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you and so many communities, black, indigenous, latino and asian worked so hard to make yours but estate plans could be costly and conversations complex proud to partner to bring free and low cost estate plans to san franciscans. by providing estate plans we are able to keep the assets whole for our families, prevent displacement, address disparities and home ownership and strengthen the cultural integrity of the city. working with local non profit organizations and neighborhood groups bringing the serveess to you and community, to workshops focused on estate planning and why it's important. >> i'm 86 years old and you do need a trustee. you need a will and put who ever you want in charge of it. >> that's why i wanted to be here today. that is why one of the first steps i took
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when become assessor recorder is make sure we have a partnership to get foundational funding to provide these resources to community. but even more important is our connection to you and your homes and making sure we know how to help you and how to protect them. >> if you don't have a living trust you have to go through probate and that cost money and depending on the cost of the home is associated the cost you have to pay. that could be $40 thousand for a home at that level. i don't know about you, but i don't $40 thousand to give up. >> (indiscernible) important workshop to the community so we can stop the loss of generational wealth and equity and maintain a (indiscernible) >> why are estate plans important? we were just talking before we started the program, 70 percent of black americans do not scr a will in place. >> as mentioning being in community we had a
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conversation with a woman who paid $2700, $2700 just for revocable trust. what we are talking about today are free or low cost estate plans that are value between 3,000 to $3500. free or low cost meaning free, or $400 if you make above $104 thousand a year, and capped larger then that amount. because we want to focus on black and brown households, because that's whether the need is, not only in san francisco, not only the bay area but the region as well. and, >> i was excitesed to see the turn out from the western addition and bayview and want to make sure we cover all the different steps from buying a home to making sure homes stay within the family. >> work with staff attorneys to receive these free and low cost complete estate plans that include a living trust, will, financial power of attorney, and health directive.
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>> that's why it is so important to make these resources and this information accessible. so we can make sure we are serving you and your families and your generations and your dreams. >> we insure the financial stability of san francisco, not just for government, but for our communities. >> on behalf of the office of assessor recorder, i'm thankful for all the support and legal assistance they have given that makes the estate planning program a realty for you in san francisco and are thank all the community partners like san francisco housing development corporation, booker t washington center and neighborhood leaders and organizations that help families and individuals realize their dreams of building wealth in san francisco from one generation to the next. to learn more about this program e-mail inquiries at har
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>> this lodge is home to some of the best fly casting pools in the world. these shallow concrete pools don't have fish. this is just a place where people come to practice their fly casting technique. ith was built in the 1930's and ever since, people have been coming here to get back to nature. every year, the world championship of fly casting is held in san francisco and visitors from all over the globe travel to be here. >> we are here with phil, general manage of san francisco rec and parks department at the anglers lodge. what do you think about this? >> it is spectacular, travis from oregon, taught me a snake
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roll and a space cast. >> there are people from all over the world come to san francisco and say this is the place to be. >> yeah. it's amazing, we have teams from all over the world here today and they are thrilled. >> i flew from ireland to be here. and been practicing since for the competition. all the best casters in the world come here. my fellow countryman came in first place and james is on the current team and he is the head man. >> it's unique. will not see anything like it where you go to compete in the world. competitions in ireland, scotland, norway, japan, russia each year, the facilities here in the park are second to none. there is no complex in the world that can touch it. >> i'm here with bob, and he has kindly agreed to tell me everything i need to know about
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casting. i'm going to suit up and next, we're in the water. >> what any gentleman should do. golden gate angling has free lessons the second saturday of every month. we have equipment show up on the 9:30 on the second saturday of every month and we'll teach them to fly cast. >> ok. we are in the water. >> let me acquaint you with the fly rod. >> nice to meet you. >> this is the lower grip and the upper grip. this is a reel and a fly line. we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your
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tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donna and she is an international fly casting champion. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a season day like this, it was the perfect spot to be. i find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. takes me out into the nature. almost like drawing art in the air. and then i can make these
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