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>> welcome to the san francisco historic preservation commission meeting this afternoon at 12:30 pm., wednesday, june 21, 2023. to energy public participation sfgov is streaming this live and we'll receive public comment for each item limited to 3 minutes per speaker and when you have 30 seconds remaining hear a chime and your allocated time it up and take the next person to speak take public comments and in the city hall first and open up and for >> phone number: +1 (415) 655-0001 access code: 2599 351 6630## (press *3 to enter the speaker
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silence any mobile devices. and at this time, i will take roll call. >> president matsuda here. >> vice president nageswaran ear. >> commissioner foley here and xhukdz. >> commissioner wright first afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. again, if you're in light chambers please come forward and if 655-0001 access code: 2599 351 6630## (press *3 to enter the speaker line) no members of the public coming forward or raising their hand public comment is closed. and we can move on to.
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>> b. department matters: 1. department announcements. >> good afternoon. sitting in for rich no department matters. >> okay. >> c. commission matters: consideration of adoption: draft minutes for may 17, 2023. this is your opportunity to address the commission on the minutes if you're in the chambers cord none no one on the line and seeing none, public comment is closed. and . >> motioning to adopt the minutes commissioner vergara yes. >> commissioner foley, yes. >> commissioner so, yes. >> vice president nageswaran and president matsuda that so moved. >> that passes unanimously 6 to zero and. >> c. commission matters:
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consideration of adoption: draft minutes for may 17, 2023. >> 3. commission comments & questions. is it not working. >> it's on but had issues with that microphone so - >> i'd like to welcome our new commissioner bob has a very quick and non-introduction to the historic preservation commission hearing last thursday but like to officially welcome you to the sour historic preservation commission family. and sadly we are going to have to say goodbye to commissioner johns will be appointed the mta we owe will sadly not see her smiling face every two times a month. >> thank you, councilmember russ for you're transmissions and the comments to make us a very important body to help
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preserve and protect our historic preservation commission resources. >> so commissioners commissioner vergara did wanted to say a few words. >> for the first time well, that is the second time but commissioner wright was not at the last hearing we want to know we're not allowed to talk acknowledge each other and so if you want to introduce yourself. >> tell us a little bit about you can i ask you to the use the mic and he was born and raised in san francisco and been here all my life and my love of sfta san francisco history was begun by my father every time he drove me around the city point out places of interest and i
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remember stanley's in the square and you saw that i've been teaching history since year 41 hard to believe and one of the classes i teach is the government class that involves san francisco history so i bring any students to city hall every semester and great lessons in city government anyway, i'm speaking too long but like i said honored and happy to be a member of the commission. >> now review as a commissioner. >> that's right when the kids give a presentation i have a leader they have to work on being a speaker and there is a bell so the object to get the bell rung i watched myself the other die before the rules
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committee when i was considered and played it for the kids if we rung the bell like a fire (laughter). >> anyway that is fun. >> we welcome our comments welcome. >> thank you. >> commissioner so. >> commissioner foley. >> thank you president matsuda i'd like to mention a couple of things i joined this commission around the same week as commissioner so a pleasure being with her and her explained historic resources so i appreciate you commissioner so and will miss i feel like we'll be left behind is there any public comment on item we have the commissioner vergara and i had lunch with him they think
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you're great you have valid today. thank you very much. commissioner so and commissioner vergara welcome on board. thank you. >> just a few words we should start rehearing the project but first, it is the collaboration i had since day one you are between dream team we we need the it thank you, commissioner foley and i also want to start with thank you to the staff i know not many of you or here today, we had a long way last thursday and thank you, commissioner secretary and it is without i think that it would be chaos; right? (laughter) thank you for bearing with us all those years wish you to the best you have always had such a
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deep knowledge and your patience to explain to us everything and whenever we have doubt, you know. that is we'll have some the legislation - what is under our jurisdiction and what not? highly educational for me and today, i can't be here alone without running from - personally had gave any thanks to all of you and a heartfelt - i really wanted to say one thing i actually i'm not leaving; right? still serving under the gentleman i look forward to many more collaborations with you all and in the departmental policies continue what we think is important for our city.
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>> very good. >> been a pleasure commissioner so flood to have the secretary for the sfgov and the office of the commission affairs for many years she'll treat you right and commissioners. >> d. consideration of items proposed for continuance. none for continuous move on to the regular calendar. >> e.4. colombo market arch (in sydney walton square, 600 front street) for our consideration to recommend to the board of supervisors landmark designation. >> again with department staff on behalf of our - just before
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i present this item on behalf of preservation staff want to congratulate commissioner johns so before you a request for the board of supervisors regarding landmark designation of the colombo market located east side between jackson street and pacific avenue; a portion of lot 010 in assessor's parcel block no. 0172, district 3. the landmark designation was initiate by the board of supervisors colombo market arch it is remnant the columbia building that opted out was by jackson and not often and was constructed in 1984 and for san francisco hotel produce market the colombo market was the first building for san francisco. and
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was the epic center and the colombo market was demolished for others gotten gateway project with the form building became a continued landmark designation and the giant requirements meets the dedication and significant for the onsite and offsite and with the building and the department regions this this historic preservation commission regions approval of the landmark designation of the colombo market arch forwarded to the board of supervisors. since passage was integrity the property owner has submitted comments not part of designation and staff has received comments in support from the historical
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society and san francisco heretic and prepared the nomination for the presentation on its history that concludes my presentation. unless the commission has questions. thank you. >> thank you. >> no immediate questions for staff we should take public comment members of the public this is your opportunity come forward or press star three if on the phone. >> i'm the director of advocacy and our program is san francisco heritage and thank commissioner so fewer dedication and welcome commissioner vergara and for the nomination of the colombo market at the san francisco landmarking landmark designation the the significance of the building district and the associations
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would the city italian- american communities are unofficially recognized by the retention of colombo market during the golden gate center in 1960 and the importance of the interpretative view is for resist with the produce district in san francisco history in the memories and san francisco heritage agrees that nomination are a of richard for the planning department staff put forward are significant an appropriate designation before article 10 of the planning code we look forward to another landmarking of significance for the city. thank you. >> commissioners, thank you for linking to my comments i'm
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with the gotten gateway center the owner of the park and here today with my colleagues and annie one of the general managers of the property and the history of the area. um, i think that is worth said earlier the gateway can't support the landmark designation we're wiling to talk about the assistance that the community wishes to see we submitted more detail in the written communications that were provided to the commission. um, before the i think that is important to recognize that much the group behind the gone gate center was involved in the city and many folks involved with the community and committed to making the community a rising
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place for san francisco. um, and for the people to live and work and shop. up i appreciate light work that the historic preservation commission maintains the heritage of san francisco and as much of what it makes us love san francisco i share the goals that the commission has and we think that the acre and park are special parts of gateway in the city but don't build the acre qualifies as a an historic landmarking the acre is not significant there is no individual types of acre and that is insufficient the many history events and we care for the ache the mere fact it stands is not an historic landmarking
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it is not commissioner king the colombo market no labor or skill with the workmanship and i'm unaware of works with a fragment of the building is designated as a landmarking this is a troubling precedent not a historical sixth and as i said in my openly comments we support the merit we can place a class nearby to explain the history (bell ringing) and the acre similar to the design in photos and look at lighting and consider other adjustments to the acre keeps it clean and available for the public and will continue to do or say but no support the landmark designation thank you for your time and happy to take
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any questions? (bell ringing) >> thank you. >> okay. last call for public comment. oh. >>. okay. public comment is closed. and this matter is now before you commissioners. >> oh, i take that back a caller who has their hand raised. let's take our remote comments. >> hi (microphone distorted) a resident of you gateway and supports this acre. thank you. >> from the last call for public comment you need to press star three or come forward and seeing none, requests to speak public comment is closed. and now before you
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commissioners. >> um, so i wanted to ask a few questions. um, interesting enough this is an interesting um, structure um, for both, you know. what has been presented and supported and with the ownership also has noted a remnant of a bigger structure that has existed. and, you know. it in no response with the report and also talks about the loss of integrity of the structure due to the changes over time having said that, that is interesting the question of
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interpretation and what, you know. embodies something that is very rare in san francisco that is predated the earthquake and construction after the earthquake had was valuable and not to not only to the community but the history of that era in some small way if it it doesn't exist would be um, you know. lost to history. um, i guess one of the questions he had what will be the difference between a structure of merit and landmarking and have several other questions. >> sure. >> um, so structures of merit are in section 10/11 of planning
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code and added sometimes my understanding is that generally, they were the code used these place holders for nominations specifically and the hpc can um, take steps not a formal landmarking steps that they do so reasonable to recognize the merit and in the amount of nouchd to the certificate of the recognition and the collaboration with state and federal and others role was meant to lien with register nomination. >> up, up any different opportunities where um, you
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know. vulnerabilities versus landmarking? >> for structures. >> i think you know. with the laboring you have the certificate of appropriation and certainly the structure will be subject to the california environmental quality act as an historic resource but any particularly like a demolition to ceqa. >> okay. so my other questions are interesting that the point was made it is not significant that is actually significant for a number of things but integrity is the part that is demolished somewhat and it was designed by san francisco architects i believe that was not a focus of
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the significance under c because potentially because um, the structure was taken destroyed during the earthquake to the elements of design for one store story and the period of significant 1906 to 1960 within that i'm trying to understand the character defining feature of free standing they thought related to freestanding and the sense of market being open beyond it. or free st. patrick's day as that exists now that is post 1950 that was a question and then also in regards to the
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painted sign - i don't know there is anything remedy nancy of sign but defer to under bravpd any or others to maybe i'll defer to mr. brandy. >> indulge commissioners i'm happy to be here i had a brief slide show sounds i read the report so don't need to do that it is very interesting we can go by the photos those are in black and white and the painting of the acre of the market in the early 50's i have some second-hand versions of those and very significance of
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historic preservation commission. i don't know maybe the owners might have no or yes o more information about the paint they found over the years. i know there are some photos colored photos i took years ago. and on the acre was completely covered in ivy that was removed i don't know had was there before. >> no remedy nancy of it now. >> there is yosemite a paint expert. >> to include the painting within the character to the features that remained that was my question. so, you know. very gone (laughter) ivy. >> i'll august whatever you exists to preserve that or keep
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that. >> uh-huh. >> until we find out in anything can be done but clearly left over from the things that happened. >> it is not one of the character defining feature with the landmarking. >> (multiple voices). >> a nomination for and then also what was meant by the character quinn feather of free standing. >> that's after the um, creation of the park. you know. that is the remnant and i mentioned i'm not sure who decided to say that but a deliberate effort the architect or the development agency have a hint of them wanting to stain the remnants demolished for those uses i think that is interesting but it is very
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unique aspect of 0 the urban removal. >> i guess if i were doing it as a academic would not fit in with the significance that was free standing it occurs as a redevelopment project being character defining to the period. >> so we could have this period of sixth studied further with the significance of park. past 1963 or i didn't that in this report but so i - up to - >> so is 9060 remunerated it or is that part of the development of cindy walton square or trying to shy away from that?
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>> well the period is significant for the landmark designation the 1960 i don't know about the staff report and the designation doesn't talk about the square in and of itself by in the character dispensing features they could have a free standing part of that is the brick and masonry construction and kind of clarify the landmark designation so all the other elements of square is included in the designation. >> i noticed that i was going suggest that but note in the nomination that, you know. a potential for um, you know. developing an historic context for the park itself. that would
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also that aspect. >> or could we spend the period of significance? >> that's not - [off mic.] >> and then as far as the italian- american community eats colombo market the two items relevant to the significance i feel like this is a remedy resistance of that and very pi i cannot that is relevant to me. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner so. >> commissioner foley sorry. >> thank you. president matsuda so i'm not a fan of
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redevelopment at all i think that redevelopment destroys the city and county of san francisco so i'm actually really thrilled it is going up and rem the history of had happened and the memory of the italian- americans the whole thing about the market that is what that was about like we do the edition i can go on and on but i'm totally in fair and hoping to add - a plaque on that. thank you very much. >> thank you commissioner vergara [off mic.] >> can you use the microphone please. i had a couple of questions. >> for staff? >> i'm not sure i was out there the other day and victorville - and three things occurred to me. one, maintaining it there is as
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there is weeds growing for the good for the acre in terms of long term and another thing that occurred it would be nice and the three wouldn't it be good a interpretive plague the proposal from the ownership talks about that. and the plaque and is that something could have been done before this event? >> and the second question is if this structure were for labor day in order to do that then the owners have to get permission to do that? i'm not sure is that elizabeth. >> so we do have a program where we um, develop plaques for
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landmarking structures. and staff's is working on that program. um, in terms of the painting that probably will be fall under administrative to staff. and administrative krourpgsz and i had comments. >> i'm in favor of designating the colombo market arch and i understand the structure can be worth i didn't have preservation four of four considerations and three apply in this case i'm not qualified to weigh in on the information but to me the architecture factories are from san francisco the other three
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categories people talk about the events and the potential for the structure to help tell the story of san francisco they all apply and and the tour guide brings their people to you encourage those people to imagine themselves by 18 blocks of workhouse building dating back more than a century back to the farms and visitation valley and a field of artichokes and when san francisco was a busy city made sense for the produce to be where it was and acknowledge that not a lot of famous individual associated pg&e was one of them and can tell the story of a lot of italian- american gone working in the produce district and went into banking the first to focus on
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the deposit were immigrants and tell the stories of hours and hour after the 1906 wagon filled was gold and silver from the bank and covered it with a layer of vegetables and drove it down the peninsula and helped to build the city and instrumental in building the golden gate bridge but will i pg&e average san franciscans with the heritage to it will i the backbone the san francisco unfortunately, i can't find references to the colombo market or the acre in the newspapers in several 1960s but the earlier way of life certainly would have been easier to knock it down
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with the other structures of 18 blocks but they lived in the 50's and 50's they out with the old and in with the new and lost so many landmarking we should show our gratitude by taking the next step and recommending this we make officer the fact that is acre is a landmarked. thank you. >> commissioner wright. >> thank you. >> yeah. i want to um, say i agree with some of the points that commissioner vergara was making and it really is um, interesting um, kind of considering the acre separate into the building but when we're thinking in terms of landmark we're not thinking i mean not landmarking the colombo market and saying the colombo market is
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not having district because all those left is the acre that was arranged for interpreted from interpretation and understanding of the market at the time that was demolished. so i think that kind of i would thinking about integrity and going into this, too, and (clearing throat) and certainly after we received the letter, from ownership the owner rooftop i think the acre does retain the integrity of the artist the existing structure keeps the integrity just potentially not whole market. staff can weigh if they have thoughts about that and to
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follow up on the point that the commissioner made though to include the original paint any original paint that should considered maybe investigated further prior to any retaining (clearing throat). >> certainly we wouldn't want to destroy any original painting that remained. so - >> thank you. >> thank you. i think before we deliberate i wanted to see in the representatives of the property owners wanted to add any further comments? >> okay. um. >> i think we appreciate brandy
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your analysis for you're deliberations was good a great visible as far as the overview of the group place we're considering and appreciative our hard work and the gate away an historic what i on the commission will be voting on today in terms of supporting the skwigz for the acre. i totally agree with councilmember dowd what the redevelopment did for the city and county of san francisco is unforgivable and i am hoping that will be the italian- american community and the produce community that came forward to make sure the acre is telling the story that is important part of our community that is often forgiven so i'm in
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full favor of supporting the board of supervisors landmark designation but commissioner vergara brought up a good point to include some kind of interpretive panel display to tell the story of what happened there and for other people to preserve the history there and also wanted to include language that was part of of the innovation that talked about the demolition of that par era into our motion to make sure that is understood that much of this building was demolished because of what happened during the development of san francisco.
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>> so moved. >> second. >> make a motion with suggesting a interpretive panel and including the language about this redevelopment of san francisco and then um, there is an issue that commissioner vergara brought up about free standing can we make a motion to include that or what are our thoughts. >> my motion included all the above. >> about you meant free standing can be anywhere. >> so free standing is one of the character that defining language that was originally used as a market it had an open market so i'm not sure that is free standing is the market or
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related to the post 1960s do but we have a augment the language to say free standing and in the original. >> context i was wondering if we might want to qualify your intent or free standing. >> not my intent i didn't know what was meant by free standing and mr. brandon was saying it related to the 1960s not what we're looking for that's why i don't know if we should strike it. >> the acre is relocate. >> ed but not used. >> it was always there yeah. >> (multiple voices.) >> in that area. >> yeah. okay. >> exactly. >> so when you used use the word free standing.
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>> the old remnants. >> it was pdf i don't know, no intent only what mr. brandon said for the park not for the period of significance nor the market in my mind is wear we're looking at i would strike it with the period of sixth significance or free standing from the fact that was demolished previously that's what i want - yeah. >> my farther part i was not sure if you want it to be free standing a free standing entity and relocated to somewhere else.
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>> yeah. >> (multiple voices.) >> those are the character dpenl features that commissioner so are included in the dedication but i think we can modify to under that- >> (multiple voices). >> okay. you- >> (multiple voices). >> could you repeat that i couldn't hear that very well. >> sorry in the actual - ordinance that was sent over which was by the board those are the physical features that were listed and identified. but again, i think that it is want to modify letter b the free standing to the relationship that is free standing that's fine. >> can we say free standing the only remnant of the colombo
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market? >> yes. >> that's fine. >> and can i chime in. >> yes. >> (clearing throat). >> yeah. i think in the description of the remnant itself it can be described as free standing but i don't believe that conclusion of free standing describing it as free standing is character defining not originally free standing not in the period in the period of significance relates to the higher um, configuration than, i
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think we want to. >> i agree- >> (multiple voices). >> i was trying to make that - >> yeah. i thought you were getting at it too. >> so this is the material itself and then i mean, if at some point in the future that is an assessment of the park or redevelopment period or the design then i think free standing acre added to that but just in the kind of pure landmarking of the acre free standing should not be left in my motion is amended for the free standing and i don't know if we want to suggest any
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recommendations kind of reference to u - original any kind of original paint do we know if any of that is left? >> heed shacking no. >> one photo it was gough street but didn't appear in the photo it was but a consideration if any kind of repainting or future interpretation of the original signage um, is considered in the future that should be looked at too. >> so i least leave it out but considered i think would be anyway in we are repaicht of the
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original singe on the original landmark a separate dissuasion at that time. >> uh-huh. >> i think we have motion do i have a second? >> there was a second. >> i'll second- >> (multiple voices). >> okay. i think i have a motion to adopt the recommendation to the board of supervisors to landmark the acre and to include in interpretive panel and include a finding related to the entertainment agency and striking free standing from the physical features listed. with consideration for any remaining original paint. on that motion president matsuda. >> yes. >> vice president nageswaran and so moved.
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>> that passes 6 to zero and concludes our brief hearing today. (gavel) thank you. [meeting adjourned]
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>> meeting of tuesday june 20, 2023. thank you to vice president lori green for chairing the meeting in my absence as was traveling. please call the roll.
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[roll call] alright. it is my privilege to read the ramaytush oholone land acknowledgment. we acknowledge that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors and relatives of the ramaytush community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. our next item is approval of the minutes from the
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health commission meeting of tuesday june 6, 2023. commissioners, you have the minutes before you and reviewed them. if there no moments do we have a motion to approve? >> so moved. >> second. >> any public comment. >> folks oen the line, item 2, the minutes. please let us know if you like to make comment by pressing star 3. we'll give it a second. alright, there are no hands. >> alright. all those in favor? opposed? the minutes are approved. our next item is one that i bring with mixed feelings. it is a resolution honoring dr. iona bennett who served as director of health equity as well as a number of other positions within the department over many years. i would ask secretary morewitz to please read the resolution before we have a motion and second.
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>> director colfax (indiscernible) >> thank you president bernal and health commissioners. i share your feelings as well commissioner bernal and this is a time to celebrate dr. bennett's leadership in the department and to congratulate her on moving across the country to become director of health of washington dc and just so incredibly excited for her, and for the district of columbia and to celebrate dr. bennett's work and leadership at the department, and there is a resolution so i'll be brief. i think the three things that really-the words that jumped out in terms of her leadership is bringing a structure, and intentionality and rigor to the work we do in health equity as director of the office of