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please show the office of small business slide. >> today we'll begin reminder the small business commission is the forum to voice your opinions and concerns about policies that effect the economic vital ety of small business in san francisco. before item 1 is called i like to thank media service and sfgovtv for coordinating the virtual hearing and helping run the meeting. please call item 1. >> item 1, roll call. commissioner carter is absent. commissioner dickerson. >> present. >> commissioner gregory. >> present. >> commissioner herbert. president huie. >> here. >> commissioner ortiz cartagena. and vice president zouzounis. [unable to hear speakers]- >> you have a quorum. >> thank you so much.

the san francisco small business commission and office of small business staff we acknowledge that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors and relatives of the ramaytush community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. please call item 2. >> item 2, approval of legacy business registry applications and resolutions. this is discussion and action item. the commission will diss cuss and possibly take

action to approve legacy business registry applications. presenting is richard kurylo with office of small business. welcome rick. >> good afternoon president huie, vice president zouzounis, commissioners, city staff and members of the public. i'm richard kurylo, legacy business program manager. i like to acknowledge michele reynold with office of small business. sfgovtv, i have a power point presentation. before you today are three applications for your consideration for the legacy business registry. each application includes a staff report, draft resolution, the application itself, and documents from the planning department. the application were submitted to planning april 19 and heard by the historic preservation

commission on may 17. i would like to thank the applicant for their patience and understanding with regard to the length of time it took for the applications to get to the final meeting. please accept my deepest thanks. 2a is simple pleasure cafe. a bohemian style coffee house. (indiscernible) bringing community members together through quality coffee excellent food and comfort surroundings. the current owners also have a roastry next door they opened in 2006 where they roast coffee old world style in small batches. they procure most of the beans from small farms and women cooperatives and beans are mostly organic when available. the core feature

tradition must maintain is coffee shop. item 2b is south beach yacht club. the business is a non profit community based membership organization specializing in the promotion of boating and waterfront activities. south beach yacht club began in april 1988 and was officially established with california secretary of state january 1989. the club started without a location but built a double wide trailer on pier 40 complex in 1989. after 14 years in the trailer, the club moved stones throw away to the newly constructor building on south beach harbor in 2006. the interior infrastructure of the new club house once constructed by the club members some with flooring and architectural experience. today the club has 485 members and strong

commitment to youth and disabled including the first ada accessible harbor in san francisco. the core feature tradition the business maintain is promotion of recreational boating. item 2c is swensen's of san francisco inc. the business is a ice cream shop founded by earl swensen on hyde and union in 1948. earl developed a lifelong devotion of ice cream serving on u.s. navy ships on the pacific ocean during world war 2. after the war opened swensen's (indiscernible) 1970 urld sold the franchising rights for swensen but maintained exclusive rights to the store in san francisco. at the height there were several hundreds swensen ice

cream shops however since closed in the united states. swensen's maintains over 3 fivel 0 additional locations and 9 countries worldwide. today the business carries on the tradition of using old fashion stanards to make ice cream on site. swensen's developed deep roots in the local community sharing the knowledge, tradition and love of making ice cream and provided first time jobs for hundreds of teenagers to give needed income and useful experience. swensen's is included on best of list for san francisco. the core feature tradition the business must maintain is ice cream store. all three businesses met the three criteria required for the legacy business rej straer and all received a positive recommendation from the historic preservation commission. legacy business program staff

recommend added the businesses to the registry and drafted three resolutions for a consideration. a motion in support thf business should frame as motion in favor of the resolutions. thank you. this concludes my presentation and happy to answer any questions. there are business representatives in the room and possibly online who would like to speak on behalf of the applications during public comment. >> thank you so much. commissioners, any questions so far? i think we can go ahead and take public comment. >> if public commenters want to line along the side and come to the microphone, that would be great. >> thank you president huie and commissioners. i'm kelly growth with supervisor chan's office. supervisor chan urges support for making simple pleasure cafe a legacy business. one of theled oest

coffee houses in the richmond district and immigrant woman owned business. simple pleasures is a neighborhood staple and provides a space for community to gather and share a cup of coffee or enjoy a meal together. simple pleasures expanded the business in 2006 by adding a roastry next door roasting coffee in small batches and serve as a anchor for the corridor as the commercial corridor is smaller then the (indiscernible) and geary corridor. thank you for considering simple pleasures cafe as a legacy business, and again i urge your support for the cafe. thank you. >> hi, president huie, good to see you. small business commission. katie tang is here. excited to be with you all. i'm forest a (indiscernible) activist. cofounded non profit called

(indiscernible) bring people together in support of local asian businesses in the name of stopping asian hate. along the way i met many small businesses in san francisco and all of them have incredible stories and shared with me their struggles with the pandemic and asian hate, navigating city bureaucracy and everything, and along the way i met amed with a incredible story of immigrating here to america, working hard in a small coffee shop. i story i feel is that of many people, especially asian immigrants who have come here, worked hard to become better, make a better life for themselves and families so i come today to ask you to please support amed and simple pleasures cafe. i have been there twice now, and the first time i was there, i was with this guy named (indiscernible) don't know if you know him. i had to watch him eat not one but two of amed's

delicious bagels so please support amed and simple pleasures cafe. thank you. >> hello. my name is dahlia and i am amed and diana's daughter, so i wanted to say a few words of what simple pleasure's means to me. after my parents met and fell in love at the cafe, my brother and i came along and we became a family business, and we were raised there. over the last 18 years while i have been alive my (indiscernible) changed from child steam milk to a (indiscernible) a lot stayed the same like the customers that have come in for 45 years. a example of this is

bruce who tutors customers all most every night dedicated to getting them good grades in their classes and eventually bruce became myitude tutor and we would sit in the cafe three hours every night at the cafe. another thing that hasn't changed is my parents dedication. when i think of people i look up to in my life, i automatically think of my pairnths. parents. it is not easy running a small business, but they put absolutely everything into it and watching my parents in the cafe is how my brother and i learned about work ethics and community. growing up in the cafe and now working there has made me so proud to be part of something bigger then myself and truly simple pleasures is a valuable community that means so much to so many people and i like to thank you for

considering simple pleasure's as a legacy business. >> thank you. >> hi. i'm diana. (indiscernible) our son wanted to be here but he is a junior in college and studying abroad this summer and thought i would read a essay he wrote in high school about the cafe since he couldn't be here. i love it. anyway. i'll go ahead and read it. i love making art. it doesn't change the flavor, the texture or warmth of a hot drink, but it always brings a small to a customer face. small gestures like these kept my

family's cafe open since 1978. then came the pandemic. (indiscernible) anxious and afraid, masks hid the once rewarding smiles that motivated my creations. life wasn't simple before and what transpired only made things more complicated. so much of the world change jd it was clear customers were grappling with this realty but simple pleasures cafe was still there. the same friendships, the same coffee, the same family behind the counter. in our small way we preserve a sense of normalacy. leeuf inside the cafe wasn't (indiscernible) teach online, parents dealing with children all day, high schoolers trying to keep in touch with friends, college students (indiscernible) and various community members with their own struggles all coming together to share their experience. coffee is humanizing, no matter

your position in life, the action of enjoying morning coffee gives everybody common ground. my art still brings smiles to faces covered or not. i like to thank the small gestures provide hope when our customers need it most. when my work schedule is hectic the reaction people have to my art help me get through the day. they serve as a reminder that we'll get through this. one l at te at a time. thank you for considering simple pleasures as a legacy business.

>> i've never felt as welcome as i have in simple pleasures cafe. you are strolling through in the evening, fog is coming in and you hear beautiful jazz or classical music coming from their cafe. not only great food and coffee, but a super anchor for the neighborhood. i think if you walk through the business district that balboa between 33 and 40, i guarantee 50 percent of the people are coming or going to the cafe. just to give you a idea how much of a neighborhood place that is, i have seen their kids grow up, but also dear friend of mine who was born and raised and passed away this last year. his sister did a nice painting and amed was kind enough to keep it displayed in the cafe. it isn't unusual to

see notices of artist with (indiscernible) there is a notification of what is going on. you can't just ask for a better neighborhood cafe. you should come down, get a cup of coffee. i'll give you one and let you use my cup they let me have down there. [laughter] >> hi, (indiscernible) i'm another district 1 resident and live blocks away from simple pleasures and you know, like everyone that has spoken today, i have grown up my entire life in san francisco and when i come back to the city after going to college, really the first place i go is simple pleasures. it to me is not just a place to get a bagal or cup of coffee but it is living legacy of the city that raised me and i grew up around. i would just love to come here and support them and becoming a legacy business, because they just have such an

amazing effect on my community. i had so many really embarrassing happy moments. i had my first ever date in simple pleasures. did it go well? no, but was the bagel amazing? yes. it is very worth it. yeah, it is an amazing business. just love and really hope to support them. thank you. >> i'm robin, also a neighbor 4 blocks away and don't know what everyone else said but i have been going there 15 years. (indiscernible) i started volunteering to do the parklet and last year my mom moved in a couple years ago, she is 90. she wants to talk to there so we walk every day to the cafe pretty

much. it is like people's living room. there are so many seniors and different people that go and that is their living room. i keep waiting for diana to start making her amazing lasagna again. it is great place and it is such a great community, so yeah, thanks so much. >> good afternoon. i'm jim from swensen's. thank you rick for all the fantastic work and assistance with the process of putting our package together. i like to acknowledge a couple of people. the owner of swensen's, richard. he worked there 55 years. i would be hard pressed to find anyone in the room that worked any place for 55 years, so welcome. alongside him is my

wife diane, my partner in crime. we took over three years ago and she is absolutely not going to come up here and talk, so i'm it. and lastly, allen. he's as he says a fan of san francisco, a fan of the neighborhood and fan of swensen's. he pushed us to do the legacy business, so thank you. we are here today to preserve our business. the small ice cream shop in san francisco and russian hill, but an important part to san francisco. we employed hundred and hundreds of high school and college students teaching about customer service, responsibility and way to earn money. i like to thank the neighborhood and the surrounding areas of the city. during the pandemic we had zero tourism. they have spoken. we are still in business, so they supported us and we thank them. many of our recipes are from the 1950 and we have no intention of changing

them. we make good old fashion ice cream, use good quality ingredients and treat the customers right. we have amazing following of people in the store. we have people that come in for 30, 40 and 50 years and they keep coming in and love to hear their stories. the customers tell us what a historic san francisco establishment we have. they love the nustaligia. unfortunately some of the businesses are going away in the city and that's too bad. we serve tourist all over the world. they know the brand and often surprised swensen's start #d right here in san francisco. i never realized prior to managing the store that diana and i that ice cream connects people. it means something to people when grandparents bring them in and now those families are bringing their families in. it

bringz people back to a different time. perhaps something simpler. i like to thank of this as swensen's first 75 years. diane and i plan operating the store as long as we can and will pass it off to someone else who is just as passionate about it as we are. i like to think we are serving up happiness one scoop at a time so i like to thank the commission for hearing our story and considering us. >> any other public comment? >> there are no other public commenters on the line. >> hearing no further callers, public comment is closed. any commissioners? commissioner ortiz cartagena. >> thank you president huie. i appreciate everybody, small owners and patrons of the small businesses that came. i want to highlight, this is san francisco, the national news media should pick this

up. we are here, we are not going anywhere. we are san francisco, san francisco endures. we ender things mother nature throws at us. you don't think we will solve manmade problems? i appreciate every small business owner because you make san francisco what it is and we'll be here, 55 years, that is san francisco love right there. you know what i'm saying? i want to taste your lasagna you make. this is san francisco. all that doom stuff, that is non sense. all the extractors are gone. real san franciscans are here and will ender, small business, you make san francisco san francisco. i appreciate you. thank you. >> hello, so i just am a small business owner too in the food and beverage industry and i just think you are

doing an amazing amazing job, and it just warms my heart that you got a legacy of generations of people coming to your cafe and have ice cream and it is just what small business is all about, creating community and creating family and so, and i agree with what my fellow commissioner said, you are the heart of san francisco and i just love-you made my day basically, so i'm going to support you guys for sure. >> commissioner dickerson. >> i remember as a kid going to swensen's ice cream. the point is, i forgot, but you just brought back such amazing memories as a kid when we used to have swensen's, and i remember there being more, but the point is, it

really did bring back a lot of good memories but i love hearing the story and yes you have been working longer then i have been alive, so i honor you for that. but, going from guilty pleasures to simple pleasures, i just love the stories, because this is what draws our community together. there is something about when your children can get up and say how their parents are heroes it says a lot about who you are as people, and what i love about that is you are leaving more then just a legacy of business, you are leaving a legacy of good people who will continue in whatever they do. i celebrate you all as well celebrating the way you parented your children, because

that means a lot. but i want to say to all the-for all of you all, thank you so much for bringing your stories and being such a rock in san francisco and of course i'm going to support what my fellow commissioner said about san francisco small businesses and you know, being at the ground level of who we truly are. san francisco is small business and it is small businesses taking care of our community and taking care of our people so i want to say thank you, thank you, thank you for holding down the fort. thank you. >> vice president zouzounis. >> thank you. welcome. beautiful beautiful line up today of legacy businesses. really hits home as i'm also coming from a multiple generation family

business, and a lot of us second, third generation, we are not there, we are not learning the ropes and it is also sometimes our parents who are working so hard and they want us to have a different life and not learn the trade, but it really is beautiful to see that we are continuing legacies of small businesses and that i think we have a lot that we can share with the city in terms of economic development. this is succession planning, this is bringing small businesses into the new age and we are creating jobs, so i think that the model that you all have made is something that this city can study and replicate and we'll keep going and have more generations of small businesses in the city, so thank you. >> commissioner gregory. >> hi. i also wanted

to say, congratulations. i have a lilt little bit of connection to swensen's and the simple pleasures. i used to balboa that was smie stomping ground in high school in the 80. i wasn't into lattes then. it was hot co co. i love what your daughter said, it brought me to tears. i hope one day my daughter can stand up here and say the same thing about my company with my husband. also with swensen's i had a girlfriend in high school that lived a few blocks away and would walk down the hill to see what cutest high school boy was working at the ice cream store then. [laughter] congratulations. this is great to see.

congratulations. >> thank you very much for sharing your stories today, and i don't know how i got through this without actually completely balling today. i find it really interesting this-i don't know if this is the only commission meeting this happens regularly where we get into such heart-felt conversations but think this is testament to small business in san francisco. this is--do we have time for one more? public comment is closed. sorry. you can e-mail though. e-mail us. we'll read and share. but, i wanted to thank simple pleasures for always being there for the community. i know one little thing was that line on the west side

for the richmond neighborhood center was a brain child of sara huxs and it was the first-for fund raising and to watch it grow to this large annual event now is really beautiful, but that really started with an opportunity i think that you gave them to just try having an event there, and i think that is just one example of probably thousands of ways you touched the community, so i really want to appreciate you for being such a anchor and for being-for both of your businesses, being family businesses. i also work in a family business and it is hard. it is hard sometimes, but to watch your daughter and your son be able to share such beautiful stories gives us all hope that there are

young people who could really benefit with from the work that we've put into our businesses and hopefully the next generation would be inspired to do more. which reminds, i think we should support young entrepreneurs in our city, and swensen's-i watched a documentary recently i think last week or something. a short on the history of swensen's and it has been a place that i know my husband's family has been to many times as a native san franciscans, so thank you for continuing on and i like the commitment that you have for the next 75 years. i'll definitely be a patron for the next 75 years. [laughter] thank you very much for coming in today and thank you very much rick for helping everybody along this journey.

any further comment? hearing no further comment, i guess we'll need to make a motion. does someone want to make a motion? >> i'll make a motion to pass all the businesses for legacy. >> motion to approve legacy business applications. >> i'll second. >> seconded by commissioner herbert. i'll read the role. [roll call] motion passes. congratulations. [applause]

item 3, office of small business budget update. this is discussion item. the commission will review the fiscal year 2023-24 and 24-25 office of small business budget. the office of economic workforce development budget. presenting today we have sarah dennis phillip, executive director of oewd and katy tang, director of office of small business. thank you

for coming in today, director and welcome. >> thank you. nice to meet you. i'm sarah dennis phillips. the brand new as in 14 days executive director of oewd. be patient with me, this is my first public preezentation, so you are the guinea pigs, so if i do anything wrong-excited to be here. i have a lot to learn. my background is not in small business. i have a lot to learn. katy so graciously took me on explanation of the work

her team does and that you all do. took me on a tour of the permit center and our center in city hall, before i started, so i am hitting the ground arunning in terms of learning. before i get fl to our budget update, i just wanted to note that with regards to the small business successes you are championing given the last item, that is something clear to me even in the last two weeks and i think it is a part of the narrative of the doom loop everyone wants us to combat. right before this i was working giving a interview to a reporter at the wall street journal, and one thing-what was great is he heard and understood this, the point i made and he heard and understood was that you need to visit our neighborhood retail corridors and see what the small businesses are doing in the neighborhood because that is the story of what san franciscanss are feeling and seeing and not what the national media is reporting so hopefully we'll keep supporting you and getting the

world and visual and actual of not just how much activity we are seeing but growth in small business. i'm here to talk about the budget. i'll run through the slides quickly and you can ask me any questions at the end. you probably know this better then i do because you have a longer tenure. we are here as a overall office to advance equitable shared prosperity for san franciscanss by growing sustainable jobs, supporting businesses of all sizes, creating great places to live and work and helping everyone achieve economic self-sufficiency. we have a number goals within that. some of which you are helping us achieve right now and right here, particularly supporting vibrant neighborhoods, by strengthening small businesses and community organizations and by helping us create space for jobs at the local level people can access. so, this is where i go into a little bit

of how i see our priorities unfolding over the next couple years. i'm joining this team at a time when we are actually doing a pretty good job advancing equitable and shared prosperity for san franciscans. we continue to grow jobs in the city, including food and beberage and hospitality, despite the hits those sectors took during covid. our workforce is broadening the number of residents who can provide opportunity at the jobs. the small business team you are a part of and community economic development team are doing such amazeish work supporting local businesses i found we were named forbes best small business city in america. as we continue to expand on the wins we need to add new work we were not expecting would be needed even two years ago. seeing a major upset in commercial real estate leading to office and retail vacancies particularly downtown. that also is leading to hits in the

small businesses that support downtown office businesses and leading to less people moving around our city effecting safety in areas with corresponding public safety. our office with mayor breeds office are intending to focus on economic recovery. the most visible focus areas is downtown and adjacent job center simply because that is where we see the most structural change and most pain and because those areas generate the business and property taxes that allow us to sirfb the needs of san franciscans. so we'll work hard to build back the tax base sustainably and we have the opportunity to do it thoughtfully in a way that intentionally includes small business and accessible jobs along with pathways to access them. we want to link the economic recovery efforts to small businesses and all our neighborhoods and this is important because i think often when we talk about a

focus on what is missing, we sometimes lose focus on what is and what's working. we need to continue supporting our existing and emerging businesses and our neighborhood viability as safe and pleasant places to be with the right focus keep moving successes forward and are that is what will pave the way for success downtown and areas that are really struggling. and lastly, it is probably worth noting we need to work with outside stakeholders to leverage resources. we are hitting this recovery at a time when our tax base is at one of the low points. probably going to get a little lower coming years, so we have a constrained budget with less resources to do the greater amount of work we need to do at this time. as you well know, we have amazing partners, great community based organizations who serve our residents, large and small businesses who committed to the city despite how hard it has been over several

years. we have state and federal partners who are looking at us as a model for the state so we have to leverage the partners to fill the gaps in the budget what we don't have locally. lastly, i'll close with a note about how oewd is already doing the work can and want to make sure we continue nimbly and flexibly so we are able to address the ever changing needs of the city. i watched from the outside oewd pivot twice over the past few years providing services in the face of a speeding economy to addressing critical needs from a public health crisis and structural and long-term change to urban areas as we face covid's wake. we need to continue to pivot. we don't know and katy and her team deals with this every day and you see that commission what our businesses will need and residents will need and that will continue to evolve as we see where the city settles so we want to be flexible, fast

and responsive to address those. just a slide of oewd overall. we have about 160 fte with a number of vacancies and new positions we need to fill. as you see on the slide the office of small business is staffed up and i know we like to expand that but at this point you are probably the only division accept for film that doesn't have vacancies now so congratulations. and this is a overview of the budget by division. obviously the lion share of the budget is going to workforce development. you see a large drop in community economic development but that is due to one time funding grant for covid that was never expected to fill our budget permanently so that isn't the change it looks like

on paper. this gives you a oversight in terms of what type of expenditures we do and the source of our funds. largely supported all most 70 percent by the city general fund, so the work we all do is also very much effected by how the city tax base is doing. a little bit about outcomes so far. how we are doing. employment assistance we enrolled over 6,000 job seekers and employment asisance and training programs result through the last year's resulting in a over 2500 placements through march. we laurched the mayor economic recovery road map. create #d a number of activations and brought more visitors to downtown. the dream keeper initiative which trained over 700 participants resulting in 200 new business

registration jz 34 new retail locations and the small business support we have been able to extend has been pretty massive. 5700 small businesses assisted with grant loans and technical assistance. you probably know better then i. then we have-i can run through quickly some of the breakdowns in terms of neighborhood investment. this represents the work we are doing for small business grants, activations and economic recoferby initiatives. these might be concerts or events we saw this weekday with the welcome light show part of the pride parade, those kind of things. we are continuing to operate for community resource hubs, which continue to provide link residents to jobs and services in the mission bayview excelsior and

visitation valley. we-in terms of focus downtown, we have about $3.8 million in the mayor budget now looking to improvements to powell street which is outdated and providing assistance to actually get stores and tenants along powell street. one thing we have been talking with the union square alliance pertinent to your work, if we introduce new businesses to a lot of vacancies on powell street or other areas downtown, how qu we link to the work we are already doing for small business? how do we make that a place where some businesses who might have more a regional business plan or draw might want to locate or how do we create the opportunity to showcase san francisco neighborhoods in our downtown? if we have a great neighborhood business that wants to have a second location, similar to when they have presence in the airport or at the giant stadium

can we have the presence on powell street and show off what san francisco is, so thinking about that as we think about those activations. and hopefully you aware of the ambassador programs. they make up a large part thof budget this year, over $50 million. right now, they focused midmarket and tenderloin, downtown and bart station. a good part thof funding is somewhat flexible so we can pivot and are place ambassadors the safety and wem come ambassadors where they are most needed as the city changes and we have success in some corridors and greater need in others. i think katy i will stop-we-in this presentation are some tax measures and other things the mayor included as part of the budget which happy

to get into if you are interested but dont think it is particularly related, so with that, i'll answer any questions or here to help. >> great. thank you so much. director tang. >> thank you so much to our new director of oewd, sarah dennis phillips and at this point i'll run over really quickly the small business commission office of small business portion of the budget. if you wouldn't mind holding on-it will be very quick. thank you. thank you carrie for bringing up the slides. give us a minute. i think we see the slides on the screen. alright. i won't go over this slide too

much. you saw in sarah's presentation, but i wanted to highlight our portion of oewd budget. mostly consisting of salaries, however a lot of the resources that we share with small businesses is actually housed within the line item under economic development. most of the grant programs, the funding for community partners is all housed there, so despite the small dollar amount you see, i want to point out the small business resources is not contained solely within the office of small business commission. this gives you a overview of what our budget looked like over the last couple years. keeping in mind that what you see the last 2 rows proposed for fiscal year 24-26 is exactly that, proposed, so the board of supervisors budget committee has not completed their negotiations and draft up the budget process yet, so what we have proposed is a

modest increase so up $3.8 million and our fte has grown a little bit to about roughly 12fte positions. we also had-also reflective of some positions that transferred from other positions. like the director mentioned, any time we had new positions available, we have quickly filled them and they have been so valuable to our teams, so we have no vacancies. and so, we also have no new positions proposed for the next 2 fiscal years even though we would love to have additional staff, but we are currently at the roughly 12 fte. you see a snapshot of the team. the office of small business who puts so much heart into everything they do including the small business development center consisting of a

director and two staff as well. next slide. just a quick overview of our last fiscal year, 22-23. so far as of june 21, we handled over 4400 cases in our office among our team, and so if you look at-if you compare case numbers pre-pandemic, this does closely follow the pre-pandemic trends and represent roughly 7 percent increase in cases that we handled since fiscal year 21-22. and just to give you a little breakdown of the types of cases that we handle in our office, it is consistent what we have seen in the past, which is over 50 percent of the cases we manage involve supporting people who are considering starting a business, so meaning pre-start up or the initial stage so 0-1 year so

helping people get the strong foundation if they are thinking of starting a business so hopefully we can set them up for success and eventually become a legacy business like you get to approve here at this commission. so, that's it on my end. just to give you the brief overview of our portion of oewd budget so at this time i will turn it back to our president to open up to questions for our director or myself. >> thank you so much director. any questions from the commission? commissioner ortiz cartagena. >> thank you president huie. welcome director phillips. we are so excited to work with you and embark on a journey to help san francisco recover. i want to let you know even outside as a commissioner we are here to help you. i represent a lot of community members, lot

of organizations, but i'll eager to work with you and we are a partner. we are here, 24/7. we are outside, so we are here for you. >> thank you. that is really great. i really appreciate and hope i have the opportunity to get more in depth and excited to get out on the merchant walks katy is doing. >> (indiscernible) they know her. director tang, thank you for the budget update. i just are want to highlight to both and put it on record, look at such a small investment in small business, compared to our fiscal budget every year and look at all the case loads. 3.8 or 3.5, we are serving around 5,000 small businesses. think the tax dollar amount we are preventing going under or the ones we are generating. this is an investment. i think we are the only city department that actually brings you a roi. maybe they should give some of

dpw's money. [laughter] (indiscernible) seriously,b think about it. really, i would say they should double your budget. we should be at $10 million and imagine the work we could do. we could fix downtown if we had double the budget, seriously. bang for your buck. i bet we get a economist they can figure the dollar amount we generate over 3.5. you would be surprised the revenue. and in addition, the preventative measures. this body, your office, the legislation we prevent from being rolled out that is crazy sometimes, that alone you can't quantify that. not because i scr a bias, but your office, director all of us here, we do a lot for the city and you have great team members. you have director tang, director pauns day lee own, josh (indiscernible) i could go on and on,

bang for the buck. not because i have a bias, but think this department really is outside and generates and has san francisco's best interest at heart. thank you and welcome. >> that was very well said. vice president zouzounis. >> thank you and welcome. i'm miriam, nice to meet you. thank you both for the presentation and i really appreciate the visuals and it does help to zoom out of our office and kind of see the bigger scope and if you could remind me of a couple categories . so, workforce development as a big catch all, and then joint development. what are those-if you could brief ly explain the difference of those.

>> absolutely. so workforce development is run by director (indiscernible) and is fundamentally really our biggest personnel department as well with all most i think 57 staff within that division alone. that's where we really look at providing training programs and ramp-up programs for jobs in san francisco, be they small business, be they construction labor positions, be they new industries like our tech sf initiative where we are looking at on-ramps for technology industry. we also have compliance staff that make sure there businesses that exist, particularly those that have agreements with the city or meet the targets we set for them in terms of hiring locally and from disadvantage communities and building on-ramps and are training for companies and cbo's to help us build that workforce moving forward. that's workforce development. joint

development is little different. joint development is where i worked at oewd before i took my hiatus and came back and that is the major development and public private partnerships we have in the city. mission rock, pier 70, hunter point shipyard. many port projects are through that where our office here at oewd joint development is looking at negotiating the best deal they can for the city and residents when we have a big development come forward and help move the project forward to get the jobs happening and construction happening and revenue flowing. the interesting part about joint development revenue is much of that actually is coming and you saw that from our apportionment slide of where the funds come from, they actually come from actual revenues from developers, so the majority of joint development business is paid by those master developers

to pay for the staff time and work that division does. so, not general funded. >> okay. and then the community economic development, that's like the more ground level? >> yeah, it is also small business work. but often focused on corridors where we define there is a specific need for on-ramping needed and i am not able to speak as educatedly about it as i will in a couple months. >> i think as i mentioned earlier, a lot of the grant programs for example you are probably familiar with sf shine which helps businesses with facade improvements or technical assistance training where there is a grant at the end or if we have to refer businesses to legal service for example for entrepreneurs or the bar association of san francisco, many organizations that i know commissioner ortiz cartagena is very

familiar with. the community based organizations--so that is where a large portion of the funding sits so again, it is the division formally known as invest in neighborhoods. >> got it. okay. okay, thank you for bringing me up to speed for the acronyms. last title i had a question on, community recovery resource hubs. is this a new concept? >> i will do the best i can describing these as i learned in the last 2 weeks. these are run out of the workforce division. as i understand it, they began during covid as recovery hubs for public health purposes to deal with people who are either dealing with public health crisis or economic crises because they lost their job. provide information on rent relief or the programs in place to deal with those immediate

impacts. as covid changed its presence in san francisco-i don't want to say subsided or receded because we are still living with that, but as the presence of the public health impacts and job losses changed they turned into hubs that are providing resource centers overall in terms of housing resources but more job resources for communities, so they have a place to go, connect with job advisors, understand the kind of programs our office and city offers in terms of jobs and see what is really out there. >> that is great. i think that leads to my actual question which is, we have been talking a lot in the last couple commission meetings about how we can better support the workforce development in particular around small business jobs, and that eco system. f i think the hubs is something we would

probably-that's infrastructure that is built into that and neighborhood based hiring fair came up. my technical question is, is there staff and if so how many within the 57 fte within workforce that are focused on small business job training small business job eco system and that sort of thing? >> this is where you get out of what i have been able to learn since i have come on board. i am happy to work with director tang and with director (indiscernible) to have him come and discuss how they deploy their resources. i had a couple meet and greets with his staff and able to meet everyone but can't fully speak to that structure. >> sound good. i guess just the last note on that is, i see that future federal funding is part of this. we know there is a big infusion from

the federal level with american recovery plan that is coming down to counties for workforce development and my understanding is that san francisco which is now being administered through the state of california is in the running for some funding for small business job and small to medium business job and training, so is that part of the federal funding that oewd is considering? >> we are doing broad swaths so absolutely. that is exactly the type of funds that i-when we talk about looking outside what the general fund to support. i am not familiar with those funds so we can get into specifics and understand how competitive we are and how they might meet our small business needs and come back to you on that. >> okay, happy to fill in blanks there too. >> cool. thank you.

>> director tang. >> quickly address some of commissioner zouzounis's questions and we did have director (indiscernible) at our recent small business commission meeting here to talk about that division. i would say that their division doesn't break down the work by whether they serve small or big businesses. they break down a lot of thwork by industry. when we heard here and through all the cases we manage that small businesses were having trouble hiring and finding workers that we partnered with workforce division on a huge job fair at the ferry building. it was a huge turn-out. i can't remember how many people there were. those are some ways we try to partner to insure that small businesses are signed up for example and the workforce link so it essentially as mentioned a free service for small business employers to find

workers, similar to other platforms you might have heard of. and we are continuing to also promote some of the local resource centers as well that workforce has throughout the neighborhoods and have job postings and sign ups for trainings as well. just want to clarify that is how they break down their work in general. high level terms. and then the other question was about-sorry, now blanking on your second question. >> just something around the federal- (indiscernible) >> my understanding is that that federal funding was spoken for so the city accounted for that so there is nothing new i'm aware of. they were accounted for and that is also why we all the departments in the city this year have been asked to reduce a lot more in terms of the budget,

because during covid we had a lot more one time or one or two time federal and state resources to deal with the pandemic and emergency, but those have gone away for the most part. i'm not aware of anything new arpa wise. if i find otherwise, i'll let you know. >> commissioner gregory. >> i want to say you are rocking it for after 14 days. you are doing a great job! thank you. i also want to talk about workforce development first. director (indiscernible) is killing it with workforce development. he is-a lot on the construction sites. they have the (indiscernible) apri, (indiscernible) they are really making sure that the community is working on all these construction sites, so they are doing an amazing job with that.

now, as the joint development and wasn't going to bring this up, but since you did, with the public and private jobs, or the construction sites or the building of the city, so i'm a micro lbe trucking company, and i wasn't going to bring this up director tang, but when it go-when this was brought up i cannot help it. sorry. so, what i think a lot of people are missing is that when it is a public private money that is-let's just say we can't take mission rock because they are doing an amazing job including with the lbe, a really amazing job, but other jobs they are not and they use it as it is privately funded for

not to use the local contractor, and that is a issue for us, because when especially when it is federally funded that is the first thing they do and say we don't have to use san francisco lbe, we can use anybody in the state or countsry because it is federally funded. so, that is to me i'm never going to stop advocating for this. we small companies small businesses, we hire the community, so when we hire the community all of our money goes back into the community, and it is frustrating to see that contractors who are making millions of dollars in the city of san francisco have a way out to not use contractors in the city of san francisco. especially minority companies. so i would like to see

some kind of support about that. i dont really know how it is played out. i know i can tell you that treasure island, even though they are not doing it in the work development development or development agreement it says that san francisco lbe should be looked at before sbe, before people outside the state. we are already having a hard time with bidding against people from livermore, vallejo, because they cost are not as much as our cost in the city. i would like somewhere in oewd, whether it is work development is completely different then contracts, and somewhere if there could be some kind of wording that is going to support the contractor in the city of san francisco.

i dont know how that looks, i'm just saying it is a huge huge issue. >> can i ask so i can be more educated when i try to research this. you are noting basically if there is straight or federal dollars that that then supersedes allows them to super seed the local hiring requirement? >> it is different then local contracts. >> lbe? >> yes. yes, they can say this is a sbe project, so i can work with somebody in la instead of san francisco in -in la instead of san francisco. i can tell mission rock partners are doing amazing job and giants are huge supporters of the lbe

community, especially district 10 community. they have been rock stars in this. it would be great to see every privately funded project like that and i don't know how does that look? how does for us we need to talk about equity on the ground. we don't see that. we see that all this money coming into the city of san francisco of the billions of dollars getting for construction or developers, that money mostf the money is not being in san francisco. it is outside-that money goes outside san francisco. >> it is helpful to hear you explain that. it is also i just want to note it is really gratifying to hear your words about mission rock. that is the company i came from in order to take this job, and i was able to see first hand how we in our development

company address those requirements and it took intention and it took staff time, but it was well worth it. i say everyone in the development firm on the giants side and (indiscernible) feels incredible amount of pride what we have been able to achieve and part of the vision of the project. it is interesting to think how we can convey that spirit. >> the port commission had a lot to do that. since you come from that, you know how it looks on paper, right? how it really looks in real life what is about inclusion and equity and diversity, so yes, i'm excited now-more excited now! >> thank you. we'll look into it. >> thank you. commissioner ortiz cartagena. >> i'm just going to ditto what commissioner gregory said. the lbe program they play

the game. they bring somebody they make up a sbe from wisconsin or something, bring them in and those are extractors. the giants do well because they are from san francisco. they are a organization that cares about the city and it shows. if you want to do it right, keep the dollars in san francisco. you will do it right. if you are a extractor, you will extract the money. but that's not what i was asking to speak on. you got me pumped commissioner. you got me pumped [laughter] being a member of the latino task force, the resource hubs saved our community, the latino community had the highest rate and replicated the model. we built the plane as we were flying it and those were invalable and what happened in the resource hubs and the development, at the beginning it was covid focused and now (indiscernible) was born out of those

resource hubs and are small business inkuebation and where to get theresources for small business is huge now. the director of (indiscernible) is here and it is huge the amount of entrepreneurs especially the youth entrepreneurs and when they start looking for jobs they see the small business and see i'm going to create my own job and it is amazing. that $2 million, bang for your buck. disseminate and be in community, if you look at these hubs they are in the depth of the community, the heart of the community and don't think any other city program can reach the community as well as the resource hubs do. i just wanted to highlight that out for the commission and director. >> thank you. any other comments? >> i have one question. i know that we skipped over the proposals that might be coming down the line. are

those things having to go before the board of supervisors? >> yeah. i'm happy to give little oversight. >> i just had a question, the tax commercial tax one, i would love a quick- >> so, the mayor has put forward two proposals which are considered by the board and may or may not make it out of committee to full board. the first one was an attempt to right-size prop c, which right now provides a tax both on initial leases for commercial real estate and on subleases for commercial real estate, so in the instance of today where we have unfortunately a lot of companies who have a space under lease but not using it and trying to put it out for sublease, the space will be taxed twice, so it

will pay the same tax twice. i was a common sense proposal to not have a duplicative tax that puts our tax system in negative light when we are trying to appeal to recovery that the mayor put forward so that is one change being looked at by the board of supervisors. the other is a proposal for a gross receipts tax holiday for new businesses for their first three years in san francisco if they have not had a business in san francisco to date as incentive moving forward. we'll see-i think the board is going to take more public comment on those tomorrow maybe and they will be passed out of committee perhaps next week with approval or decline. >> is the commercial space one, does that have parameters of size of the commercial-

>> gross receipts tax holiday or sublease? >> the sublease. >> it is simply to say if the space is already taxed once that it wouldn't be taxed a second time. i will note there was a significant amount of debate about that before the board of supervisors. >> i'm sure, that is quhie i was curious. i missed that one. okay. thank you for helping me understand that. >> i just had a couple comments i think. i was curious-now that we are talking about some of these issues, i wanted-and that you are here, i'm sorry trying to gather my thoughts from everybody's comments, they were so good. how can we-putting it out

there that like, i would like to say that we are -we would like to be involved in the future planning of the city. we heard that from everybody up here that keeps coming through in all our conversations that we are really resourceful people and not just us up here but small business owners in the city. they are very solution oriented and love the city so much, and i hope that we can tap this resource even further. one challenge that has come up and a lot of conversations it has been ti improvements. thinking a lot about how we would love for neighborhoods businesses to be able to take the opportunity to come into a downtown space and be able to open up a second location or for new young entrepreneurs to think

about playing out their dreams, or anybody. anybody who has this idea and wants to take it into the world. i think through the vibrant opportunity we have seen that there are tons and tons of creative ideas in the city. i think a lot of barriers are often times the capital needed to make the ti improvements in order to get into a space, and then we start to look into other barriers in terms of cost of living for our employees and things like that. the initial cost of ti improvements often times-just to open up any store you are looking at a lot of money. i hesitate to put numbers out there, because it varies, but it shouldn't be cost prohibitive in many ways to be able to come into a vacant

store front. i think i would have some interest getting into these nuances and just like commissioner gregly gregory was detailing about the lbe issues, a reason we are not seeing all the dots connecting are because of the nuanced issues, and we as a city haven't really come to a point of like how do we fix those little things. it is like we are too busy thinking about the problem itself and yelling about the problem itself, but it is like well, there are all these barriers that make it very difficult for somebody to find a hundred to $500 thousand to invest into a business initially for whatever length lease. i think having more conversations like this and talking to people who

are really seeing things in the detailed while understanding the overall landscape is a great opportunity i had as part of this commission and love to be able to create more forums like that for you as you're moving through this too, because i think all of us are very hopeful about the city, and hopeful about our i guess recovery, but think it is more so how we move forward. i just had a note in doing that too, thinking about the ti, not just investment, but also how can oewd also partner with other departments like or at least have more communication with other departments in terms of department of public works and-basically opening a small

business you have to all most deal with all these different departments, which makes us unique in our situation is that we are asking small business owners to get involved with other departments and understand how those work. i think we need to know how to do that on a more higher level to be able to assist people because it isn't enough to send somebody to department of public works or wherever and say okay, you figure this out. i think somehow creating maybe more fluid pipelines for that type of relationship. those were just i think a few things that i had in terms of like just welcoming you to your new position and being very excited that you are here as well. >> thank you. i just want to respond to what you said

because i think there is actionable items you touched on that i really like to work on with the team. one of them, we have seen-i have seen clearly that while we have a good economic recovery road map, what we haven't done a great job on is working-having community based input and support for the actual tactics and strategies that come out of the broad goals. how we work together on the program that comes out of it and i think powell street is a example. we have about $2 million funded for tenant improvement specifically because we are very clear that is a barrier to some new investments. we are also very clear $2 million isn't going to be enough. going back to mission rock, when i left mission rock was very close to i think we had about 13 small local businesses all most in lease for ground floor spaces, but the way we were able to do that is putting in somewhere between

100 and $200 a square foot of the development money towards ti and many cases offering participation based rents that were based on success of the company and that is how it moved forward. one thing that we are hoping to do with property owners in parts of san francisco where we see high vacancies is try to roll out some of the same tools and what i hear on powell and market street is that business building owners who have been there a long time and not going anywhere and the buildings are not worth much so not go toog sell them are invested bringing resources to get tenants including the ground floor because they know there is no other way of doing it and putting the tools forward. would love to work with you all just going back to that $2 million on powell street as a example and we have other pots of money in the budget less specifically directed and more for small business in general, we like to work with the small business community to

really understand the best way to deploy the money. especially if not the full amound needed for a ti. how do we make sure we don't give it away that provides red tape and contractor requirements that make it hard to execute the dollars towards the tenant improvements somebody needs so i love to create working groups as we move from goals to tactics and strategy we do that in the right way. just wanted to respond to that. the other point about department communication is high on the radar. something i heard a lot about. things as simple having street scape improvements or fairs impacting the businesses. not coordinating when we close bart station or sidewalks because we are doing street improvements, so st. is a goal to try to improve the coordination so that-i like you didn't call recovery. we need a better word for

future that doesn't sound so negative i think. i think that is a goal for oewd to do the convening so we can look at the other aspects of small business outside the portfolio and make sure we are on the same page. >> thank you so much. really kind of help make thingz much more clear in my head. >> i don't have the answers and quhie i so appreciate the offer and really do want to work with you as we build that so thank you. >> can you define what participation based rents mean? >> it is a strategy of basically the rent is based on the amount of profit a business makes. if the business isn't doing well, there could be as little as new rent and when they ruck seed succeed it is greater amount of rent. it is

something the city does when we own spaces across the city. >> thank you. >> okay the extractors will lose their buildings soon because the loans are resetting, so it will be alright. >> (indiscernible) >> public comment? any callers? no callers. any public commenters in the room? >> no. >> seeing no public comment, i think that is not an action item, so i guess we are good. thank you very much for attending today and sharing so much. welcome! >> thanks for taking all our questions. >> item 4, board of

supervisors file 223064, waver of permit license and business registration fees for certain small businesses. discussion and action item. the commission will hear and possibly take action on ordinance amending the business tax regulation code to wave retroactively to july 1, 2023 certain first year permit license and business registration fees for specified small businesses that newly form or that open a new location and refunding any waived fees that have been paid to the city. presenting today is katy tang, director office of small business. >> thank you director tang. >> alright. thank you. i'm here to present on behalf with treasure and tax collector office which is managing this program. just a little refresher, this is a program that started during the pandemic in 2021. november 2021, thanks to advocacy and sponsorship by supervisor ronen and mayor breed. it

waves the permit fees for businesses that are either starting new in san francisco between a certain timeframe, and then also for anyone who wants to expand also into a new location in san francisco. i will just say that on the ground through our small business permit specialist in the office, this program has been incredibly valuable. for businesses especially starting out new and not generating any revenue yet to have to fork up thousands of dollars in permit fees to the city at that point in time is extremely challenging. i dont think i need to tell you that, but this program again has been so valuable and critical to helping get more businesses excited about starting here, so what this legislation does is it proposes to expand the program by 5 years. however this is all in motion right now with the board of supervisor budget negotiations, so currently the

expansion of the funding is included in the first year, so fiscal year 23-24. we are still awaiting whether the board of supervisors through their negotiations will also include funding for the second year, but either way i'll say our office will be keeping an eye on this program and we intend to continue to advocate for its indefinite continuance, and also just to share that one or i guess two major changes to this program that is in this ordinance is that it excludes home base businesses and short-term rentals so make tg clear because there were questions that came out throughout the initial roll out of the program, and also since the program has been launched, over 4,000 businesses enrolled in this program and approximately $1.5 million in fees have been waived. again, small investment from

the city, huge impact for the small business entrepreneurs. happy to answer any questions you have, and again, as you know, it is all pending at the board of supervisors budget process right now too. >> do we have questions-and have a question really quick. are we making a motion on- >> yeah, this is a legislative review, so- >> okay. >> you can decide to support or amend-support with amendments. >> we'll take commissioner comments and questions first. commissioner ortiz cartagena. everyone came off (indiscernible) >> i just want to highlight the 1.5 waver. i bet if we quantify the tax revenue these small businesses are now bringing, you can't

beat these investment returns. i am always going to highlight that because that comes out of our office. great job. love it. >> commissioner herbert. >> i highly highly support it as well, and i was just wondering why the supervisors beyond the obvious reason why they wouldn't be amenable to extending it? >> right now it is just a issue of funding. i think the desire is there to continue the program so it is just about the trade off of all the different investments in small businesses and economic development, so it is just a matter of that broader negotiation. >> i know where we could get that funding from. [laughter] >> any other comments or questions? seeing no other questions or comments, do we want to take public

comment? >> any public comment in the room or online, press star 3 to be added to the queue. there is no public comment. >> great. i think are we ready to make a motion? >> i'll move. >> i'll second. >> motion by commissioner ortiz cartagena to recommend this legislation, seconded by commissioner dickerson. i'll read the roll- [roll call] motion passes. we are in a race to try to pass this one. [laughter] >> thank you. item 5, board of supervisor file 230701

city wide expansion of allowable commercial restaurant and retail uses. this is discussion and action item. the commission will hear and possibly take action on ordinance amending the planning code to permit additional commercial retail and restaurant uses on the are ground floor in tern neighborhood commercial districts and residential districts, principally permit flexible retail on the ground floor and ncd in chinatown mixed use districts and many y other things. presenting katy tang, director of small business. >> thank you so much and i also want to thank carrie, our commission secretary and policy analyst for also her partnership and work on this. so, we work with the mayor's office and also cosponsors, supervisor engardio, dorsey and melgar on legislation to help make it easier for small businesses to open or adapt and pivot here in san

francisco. so, it does make over hundred changes to the planning code. i won't go over over line item but want to keep in mind all the changes boil down to 5 goals, so reducing the number of barriers that small businesses experience whether they are trying to open a new store or expand a new space. we also especially in this challenging time want to give businesses more flexibility. maybe you are new or exists and want to try new concepts, we want to make sure our planning code doesn't get in the way of you experimenting and offering the different unique experience so many customers are demanding. it is not just about what i call static retail. you got to offer the experience or something unique that get people to go out and are get people to go into your store. we also thirdly want to permit more uses, so for example we looked at every zoning table in san francisco. they are all so unique

and we wanted to see where areas that either didn't permit certain type of uses or still required a conditional use. for example for restaurants. it doesn't make sense anymore and we just want to make it easier and remove all that, because by changing uses to being principally permitted you are eliminated so much time which time equals money and process, so removal of process so that is what we did as well. we are also proposing to allow more business use types on the ground floor. there are some restrictions in what can be located on the ground floor commercial spaces and so that we think will help us with filling more ground floor commercial vacancies which everyone has been asking and talking about. lastly, we also recognize it is a challenging time for venues and so we wanted to be able to address that through some

changes in either how the permitting process works, as well as outdoor patios that are currently in existence for many of these venues or even restaurants. those are the 5 goals and so next slide i won't go into every single detail here, but in terms of allowing more business uses on the ground floor as principally permitted, we namely wanted to expand what is called, flexible retail use city wide, and that essentially gives the businesses a opportunity to change between 6 different uses and examples of that our favorite one is we love the plant shop that also sells coffee and say i don't want to sell coffee and maybe want to have a art use instead and to be able to do that without having to come back to the city for additional permits that trigger other regulatory requirements. flexible retail is only allowed in half of the

city so we wanted to make sure to expand to the other half of the city and make it principally permitted on the ground floor. at the same time, in terms of flexibility we are clarifying in the planning code that you can have multiple uses permitted on site as well. my favorite i learned from a merchant walk was a retail shop that sells clothing and in the back they have a barber shop. we clarify that is possible as long as you establish the multiple uses but you can have that and isn't limited to certain square footage so if you add accessory use under planning code, you might be limited in the size of what accessory use provides and principal use is a larger footprint, so we clarify multiple uses on the same site and not restricting to a certain square footage for each use you have. we are respecting the zoning

of that district as well. also the type of use on the ground floor what is known as professional services, were not allowed on the grund floor and i want to make the clarification that this is not the same as office use but professional services might include thinshs like accounting office or legal service or architecture firm and still draws the foot traffic. if i'm going to my accountant i might stop by the coffee shop on the same block or clothing shop so we want to be able to allow on the ground floor and no longer distinguish between you are having that concept open door foot traffic or not. you are just called professional service rather then you offer retail or not.

next slide as mentioned, they have been restrictions on restaurants limited restaurants which are known as cafes coffee shops and also bars. some neighborhoods have restrictions including neighborhoods like chinatown, haight street, jackson and taraval street and new bars are currently not permitted or are restricted along haight street, jackson square, (indiscernible) and in the mission so the ordinance will lift restrictions on bars in most of those areas and sorry i think there is just a little typo there. we will not be changing the restriction on mission, however the cap will increase from 167 to 179. next slide, recently the state adopted a new liquor license type called the type 90 and so

businesses in san francisco can already apply for the type 90. it is just that we have in the local planning code adapted our language so that it actually states type 90. the type 90, it is music venue liquor license and authorize the sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits at retail for consumption in a music entertainment facility and one key feature is it allows for miners to be on the premise and think that opens the opportunity for venues that are struggling now to have family friendly type events and open to a broader audience. next slide we do want to create a path for the legalization of long standing outdoor patios. currently if you cannot demonstrate you had a permit pulled for the outdoor patio you have to go through conditional use authorization process and so again,

you might wonder why we address outdoor patios but so many enjoyed the outdoor space and so if you can demonstrate that you had your outdoor patio for at least 10 years and could be through a variety of means, maybe you have documentation you paid for a contractor to create this or have photos with date or time stamps, then we wouldn't require you to go through conditional use authorization process. next slide. so, neighborhood notification has always been a very challenging thing, because it just adds time. at threes 30 days you put out a notice to the surrounding community, but also another period of time of 30 days to open the window for appeal process for maybe one neighbor to object to a business that you are proposing. back in 2020 voters voted on proposition h, the save our small businesses

initiative, which removes that neighborhood notification requirement if i'm changing-for example, i'm going from a coffee shop to plant shop so limited restaurant to retail sales and services, that is considered a change of use and previously you would have had to go through the whole notice process i just described. proposition h removed that requirement for change of use in most of the city. in the areas in yellow that was removed. parts of the eastern neighborhoods which you see in-eastern neighborhood mixed use district highlighted in magenta, neighborhood notification still apply for projects changing use. we are expanding what is already true from proposition h to the rest of the city highlighted in magenta. and then next slide. this is our final

slide here. we want to be able to help night time entertainment, bars and restaurants benefit from priority processes at the planning department and commission. now under the planning department there is is a program called the community benefit priority processing program. also known as cd3p. if you are eligible for this program, then and you need a conditional use authorization for your project, what it guarantees is you would be able to get a hearing date at the planning commission within 90 days of submitting a complete application and you get to be on the consent agenda. it helps speed along that process because otherwise you could wait months to get on the agenda for the planning commission. what we like to do under this legislation is allow night time entertainment uses, bars and restaurants with full liquor license, excluded from the program, allow them to

participate in the expedited review. you have the neighborhood notification, you still have it public hearing, still have appeal process, we want to help minimum get you into the planning commission a lot earlier. and many of these businesses they are all for majority are small businesses. that is in a nutshell the over hundred changes to the planning code. the legislation has been introduced. the next step is that it will go to the planning commission early september before it then goes to the board of supervisors land use committee and then to the full board. we are looking at a couple months until this could potentially be adopted, but in the mean time wanted to make sure that you have the full information and we are happy to answer any detailed questions as well. >> thank you. commissioner herbert. >> thank you and

that's amazing. amazing, because i built three restaurants from the ground up in san francisco, and every single time it took a year, because of conditional use permitting or we would have building or planning come out and say you can only be a full service restaurant so we are like, okay, what do we have to do? all these little things that just slow everything down. i commend you and the work on that because you really targeted the things that slow down so thank you. does that mean there are less conditional use permits required. >> there will be less, we wish we could eliminate all, but we have not. we tried to pick where we think it makes a lot of sense. if we see a restaurant requires conditional use it doesn't make sense, but we know there are

certain neighborhoods where liquor licenses require the use of a restaurant and you are adding a liquor license. >> sure. you can't be near a church or school or all that good stuff. my next question really quickly is about the moratorium on liquor licenses in san francisco; which is driven up the cost of liquor license. currently the city isn't issuing new licenses so existing licenses can be moved around, right? relocated. but that is driving the cost of liquor license full liquor license up to about $250 thousand per license because the people that have those licenses want to benefit by selling them. i was wondering about the moratorium. >> that is a great question. there is actually someone in oewd who has been managing all

that both locally and at the state level and so he would be much more knowledgeable then i to speak to that so i love to connect you maybe after this meeting to find out what the status is at there moment. >> thank you. and thank you for your amazing strategic development. >> commissioner ortiz cartagena. >> just have two comments. thank you director and secretary for all this work you did. this is boring boring stuff, but so essential. i'm serious. nobody likes looking at the codes and tables and cultural districts but this makes the city and i think we layered all these unnecessary codes and conditional uses that really-not small business but all business so thank you for that. i want to commend in particular like for the mission, there is a lot of sensitivity because of

gentrification and past bad practices and the efforts you two took to reach out to community, really like it should be a case study like sfmta should come and look what you guys do. you two really went back and forth and it was thoughtful and engaging and i just want to commend you because i know in my neighborhood we could be difficult, but trust me, it is because we are scarred with trauma and for you to take all the initiative and break down the code and do way above and beyond, i appreciate and want to commend that and put that on record. >> thank you so much. i love reading the planning code, so it is not boring for me. [laughter] >> vice president zouzounis. >> thank you and yes thank you everyone for your work on this. because it is a little confusing, if you could help me

understand-i'm trying to look at on-site alcohol and off-sale alcohol, given that for me that's a equity question, if there is more allowances for on premise and usually that is a larger capital entity, so i wanted to understand since i know particularly the mission has been dealing with a particular limit on off-sale and i see we are limiting the on premise is that also going to effect the off-sale? >> for the mission district? there is a cap in general on liquor licenses. in the haight there is a restriction. it is not permitted. on-sale or off-sale, so we say the proposal is that they would be allowed with a conditional use

authorization. >> for both? >> for both. thats trr the only place i can remember that we specifically touch on-sale and off-sale is haight street. >> the mission cap that increased is just- >> for liquor license in general. >> liquor license in general, not just bar? >> in our description we talk about restaurants and bars but thin mission it has to do with-the cap has to do restaurants and bars and so-- >> okay. >> liquor licenses in general. >> okay. this isn't going to impact like a business that's a specialty grocery or cafe that wants-still dealing with there moratorium of the licenses in general? >> in the mission or elsewhere? >> in the mission-we'll stick to that case study. >> in the mission, if they need a new liquor license then they

are subject to the mission-whether cultural district, special use district or mission alcohol mct-different names-so they will be restricted based on that cap. >> so what is the increase? >> the increase is to allow-going from 167 to 179 total restaurants and bars in the mission. the prescribed areas where the cap currently applies. >> if you are thinking about opening a restaurants in the mission you have to check with planning to see if the cap has been met and this allows more restaurants or limited restaurants or bars to open based on the cap. >> okay. it doesn't have to do with the liquor license? >> it does in the opening requires a liquor

license but doesn't change the feasibility of getting the liquor license. >> very confusing. >> under the planning code, the definition of what distinguishing a restaurant and limited restaurant is whether you have a liquor license. for the mission there is a cap for restaurants, which means that that restaurant is serving not only food, but also have a liquor license. >> i think what might be confusing is we are saying liquor license and we mean liquor beer, and or wine. it is easier to get a beer and wine license, liquor licenses are still hard to get. >> with the liquor license you can only-actual liquor. i don't consider beer and wine liquor. >> i just know that there's specialty grocery stores who have been trying to get wine licenses for decades in the mission and i want to make sure we are not doing allowances for only restaurants for liquor licenses hrf

>> not liquor, beer and wine which is tied to full service restaurant. not liquor. you can't move another liquor license from other parts of the city to the mission. >> so, this is increase on beer and wine licenses? >> restaurants. >> restaurants and bars. >> my question was answered which is can you relocate a existing liquor license to the mission and that's no, right? okay. >> the relocation for us to think about, i have seen how soft story and other things have moved or have forced a business with a liquor license to move and then they found another spot in the corridor but were not able to take their license with them and they had to go to appeals

hearing and i'll never forget the appeals hearing because department of public health is the one trying to make sure the small business couldn't keep the license and there are people on the appeals board who are part-it was a community serving business, it wasn't just any corner store. it was a community serving business and the quhole community came out and the people on the appeal board told the department of public health and to the city, these kinds of restrictions are undoing commercial development, because this is a business that the community wants to stay and a simple relocation issue was prohibiting them from reopening like down the block. is there still like--how do we prevent that kind of situation happening? >> i will just say that these

certainly are proposals that i know everyone has been receptive here. may not necessarily be the case in the community and there are lots of diverse opinions and why the planning code ended up the way it has is because of all the different desires from community and so we definitely tried our best with the recommendations we have. we wish we could go further, but i think this is as far as we thought we could push for this set of legislative changes. >> yeah, just thinking, is there still like cu is the exception for some. if they-there is still avenue if there is a relocation they can still go to appeals hearing? >> we don't touch that part at all in this legislation. so whatever is the current process still remains. >> okay. thank you.

>> i just had a few questions. i have not expressed my gratitude yet. i'm so caught up in the question making, but thank you very much. i think my question really is like, how do you do this? like-i mean in the last comment, rb i talked about the nuances being the thing that kind of like hangs up a lot of projects, a lot of people initiatives and thinks like that. this piece of legislation is huge. this is a huge undertaking. how do you even do this? is it because you love reading this-like we have such a dream team. it isn't really rhetorical, i really want to know how you do this? >> we did read all the

tables together. but i will say, we are just at the start of this project or this proposal, so we do need your help and i think as commissioner ortiz cartagena mentioned, it is easy to gloss over planning code but so important because when you get stuck it might be bad, might be something else. this is just one piece of many different things we observed that have tripped up people in their process of opening or expanding or just trying to do something different in their existing store. we certainly need your help at planning commission and the board of supervisors and talking to your community members, because again, they may not want to read the zoning tables and that's okay, we totally understand, but you are all our ambassadors trying to help them understand why some of these changes are so important. >> director, if i could add. this is really equitable, because in the mission you sign a leess lease and

find you can't open what you signed the lease for and you go under personally. you lose your house. what director and secretary are doing is like you are saving lives. i don't want to be dramatic but in our community, they sign leases and it is on you to find if it is zoned for your use. it effects generational wealth. >> (indiscernible) >> that brings me to i guess wondering what is the time table or the timeline right now? >> the legislation is sitting right now at the board it will have to go to the planning commission first. tentatively schedule frd the first week of september, and after that it gets routed to the board of supervisor land use committee and after that to the full board of supervisors. so couple months at least. >> end of the year?

>> hopefully. >> did a lot of your merchant walks inform you on how-what needed to be prioritized? >> yeah, so we hear a lot from the cases that come into our office throu the small business permitting teams and case managers but as we go into the community it was validating to hear a lot of the comments they would proactively make to us were things we are thinking about. for example in the legislation, we saw-when we were out in the community we saw people wanted to create local neighborhood based coworking spaces. we are not talking about we work level, we are talking about a yoga studio wanted to add space for people to come and get out of the living room so it wasn't defined in the planning code in a way that would allow it, so

we helped define that as well as allow on the ground floor along with professional services uses. that is one example. if i went to haight street and there was a question to me about why is there a restriction on bars on haight street? i said well, in the planning code some years ago there was a desire not to have that many bars here. these things come up organically in the merchant walks so validating to hear that and we'll continue. >> i think-the last piece was, hopefully after this goes through, or as we have some time before it goes through, i think one of the major contributions you made to this office so far has been really being able to help us track and measure success, and being able

to measure impact. i feel this is a hugely impactful piece of legislation, so hoping that that might be built in somewhere into the mechanism for us to be able to track the success of this. [laughter] >> i think that is kind of like part of our equity conversations too. if we are just putting new legislation out there, not us, but if the city or legislators just creating new things but not check how they work or have a mechanism to be able to sunshine things or to pivot from things, then i think it makes-that is not equitable because sometimes you have to try things and see how that works and who the unintended consequences might actually effect. i think this to me is a a positive kind of

situation. i think we need to take public comment. if there are no further comments? >> any public commenters on the line or in the room come forward or press star 3 to be added to the queue. there are none. >> great. hearing no further callers, public comment is closed. would anybody like to make a motion? >> yes, i like to make a motion for approval. >> second. >> motion to recommend this- >> (indiscernible) [laughter] >> motion to recommend support for this proposal by commissioner dickerson, seconded by commissioner herbert. i'll read the roll- [roll call]

motion passes. [laughter] thank you. next item, please. >> item 6, approval of draft meeting minutes. discussion and action. the commission will discuss and possibly take action to approve the may 22, 2023 meeting minutes. >> commissioners, any comments on the minutes? no comments on the minutes. opening up for public comment. >> there is no public comment. >> no public comment. public comment is closed.

would somebody like to make a motion to approve the minutes? >> i'll move. >> second? >> i'll second that. >> motion to approve the draft meeting minutes by commissioner ortiz cartagena, seconded by commissioner dickerson. [roll call] motion passes. next item. >> item 7, general public comment. this is discussion item allowing members of the public to comment on matters within the small business jurisdiction but not on today's calendar. >> any members of the public to comment on items not on the agenda? >> there are none. >> nobody on the line? >> no one on the line.

>> okay. public comment is closed. next item, please. >> item 8, director's report. this is discussion item. >> welcome to the meeting director. >> thank you. i'm go toog pass on the director report because i gave so many updates in the earluritems like the budget, legislative proposal so i'm going to spare you from additional report out tonight. >> tonight was your meeting. this was it. thank you very much. i guess do we still-okay. any questions about-? no. public comment? there is none. public comment is closed. next item, please. >> item 9, commission discussion and new business. this is discussion item. >> commissioner gregory. >> i would just like to know how many people took advantage of the awning, the no

fee permit awning? >> thank you for that question. that legislation that creates the awning-sorry, i should clarify, do you mean the existing awning permit fee waver program that takes place every may, or the one that is to address the 200 complaints that- >> that one. >> yes. >> actually both. the one for the 200 complaints, and the may one. >> okay . i will look back thin e-mails about the may program, but the as for the awning amnesty program the legislation is still making through the board of supervisor process, so it is up for its first vote at the full board tomorrow, and that is also just on a technical side has another trailing piece of legislation, copied version with a different amendment, but essentially i think it will probably

be implemented many in another month or so, we don't yet know how many people will take advantage of the program but hope 200 plus-you don't have to have a complaint or notice of violation to participate in the program so if you don't have a permit on file for your awning we encourage you to go through the program anyway and that way you can get through the simplified process with the fees waived. and i'll come back to you about the other part of the question. >> the amnesty is through july 2024. >> i just think now san francisco just getting such a bad rap of the media not doing a great job and the office of small business has such good programs to offer the people with small businesses, and it is just sad to see no public

comment on the phone when everybody is so quick to talk bad about why there is no commercial space, or the stores are empty, so yes, i would love to hear good news about how many people are taking advantage of what the office of small business has to offer. >> commissioner dickerson. commissioner herbert. >> i was going to say thank you for saying that, because i started coming up with whacky ideas how to get more people involved in these commission meets because no one is listening but look at there all the fantastic work being done so yeah, i totally agree with you and i feel people should know about this. it is a

double edge sword because you don't want to have a 20 hour meeting every time--announcing a new-don't know how to explain it without sounding like a jerk but we dont need the entire world approval because that gets complicated, but it is just fantastic and i would love more people to be listening. i think i'll tell my wife she needs to listen. >> start with one listener. >> thank you. >> i think people do listen, so there are people listening, they are just- >> no comment? >> yeah. i think we have a following. >> there are two people tuned in right now. [laughter] they are cooking dinner and listening. i know

this. >> i stand corrected. >> vice president zouzounis. >> thank you. that's exactly kind of i think president your comments and our commissioner comments have kind of made me want to verbalize something. i think the mta battle right now with the meters has brought out a lot of different communities that don't necessarily see a nexus with small business, and now very squarely are in the same fight, and i think i just want to say, i think small business is the common ground, period. we are the common ground to connect the progressive forces and the worker and service provider communities and activist communities, and i

think we do need to better quantify how our policies that we push for have a impact for the community, and yeah, i'm down to get creative and how we do that. i think a lot of time we just get once in with big business and in terms of the public eye and i think that there's definitely something to shape around this moment where i'm seeing even like radical organizations get involved with this mta conversation. i would love to-these are base organizations that are rooted in communities and can bring out people and i just think we can better show that small business policy when we liberalize some pieces of our business code it is not necessarily going to have a conservative impact

and we need to better relay that -we are there for community and it is really hard when sometimes we are also looking at contdictory things that are tax breaks for big developers, right? how do we then explain we are in favor of this but also in favor of loosening up for small business and how that is related and better explain to kind of-yeah, communities that don't necessarily have the same business understanding. that was just something i thought about is how to better utilize our position as the common denominator for community in general. >> commissioner ortiz. >> i just want to add to that commissioner gregory, you are absolutery right. they never highlight the success loop we do out here. like in the mission, our vacancy dropped 20

percent so has (indiscernible) that is because small business and communities invested in community like i said, we are not extractors that lease a big commercial building, extract the wealth from san francisco and are leave or go under. we are going to be outside. we will be here generationally like my kids ain't going no where. you know i'm right president huie. you tell the best city ever, they say san francisco because we love our community and small businesses we are like the fireman. small business, the fireman, everybody loves fireman because we save and protect, so you can't hate on us, you can't. we are the fabric of san francisco and every community across the nation. invest in your small business and you bill bet the roi. dollar for dollar. this is just math. $1.5 million in fee wavers i guarantee you without doing a study that results in at least $20 million, guarantee without even quantifying the

expotential effects of every dollar, so keep investing in us, we are not going anywhere, we are outside, dpw, let's take money from them and we'll be alright. >> commissioner herbert. >> thank you. well, i think we need to have a relationship with new organizations so they can broadcast all the stuff we are doing. this week small business victory brought to you by katy tang. [laughter] something like that would be cool. instead of like politicians running for office having photo ops downtown and stuff like that. i'm not going to comment anymore. thank you. >> this is perfect. this is how small business

rolls. we have so many ideas. we started probably 10 small businesses on the forum already. [laughter] commissioner dickerson. >> i thought it would be good to share about the success of (indiscernible) dream keepers and city of dreams help with-the reason i want to talk about it in a small business commission is because (indiscernible) is about people, and i thought it would be good to bring a perspective of what happens when we invest in people. we were able to take 53 people from bayview primarily to the retreat and when i tell you my husband's program ground zero

that partners directly with city of dreams from oakdale brought 14 of their young adults to this. you all remember the story i told you last year that one of the young people that came last year got shot and killed in the shooting couple months after we returned. before she passed away, she went back to the neighborhood and told all her best friends from that community, you have to go to this retreat. well, in honor of her, 14 of them showed up for this retreat, and we don't always know how things are going to maneuver, because we guide the retreat based on who comes, so we can fulfill the need of the people. it just so happens everyone that came had lost someone, so it turned into

a grieving-like a-it was overwhelming. long story short, we had a saturday session where we were able-everyone who was there who needed to talk about their grief was able to speak. some ran out, couldn't handle the emotion behind it. some responded, even my camera man dropped his camera because of all the things that came up. it was a lot of times we look at things that goes on in the neighborhood and realize these are just symptoms, but the root is grief, trauma, emotional distress, loss, so what happened in some of these sessions is we were able to get a lot of that out. when we came back and people had a chance to share about what happened in the retreat and this i i believe this fits here, is because in those sessions they were able to get

out and healing process begin, but from testimonies from many of them, we literally interrupted retaliation . i don't mean to go deep every time i talk about this stuff, but i can't help it because when we can interrupt the effects of what effects us in our communities, whether it be murder, vandalism, stealing, all those things, what we are wanting to do is we want to really be able to go to the root and effect as many people as possible because i creating the circle, so what we are doing is the work that allows people to heal that will interrupt a lot of the systemic issues. i wanted to

share from a perspective of what we are doing and partnering and now have five other companies coming along and say can we get a bigger retreat? absolutely we can, because what we want to do is we want to reach those areas that-because i'm-if you notice, when it comes to emotion, i'm ready to go because it is about action. i don't like to do a lot of talking about stuff. meetings are played out. it is time to implement things, that is quhie i appreciate the work you are doing because talk is cheap, and meetings just waste time, but actually creating the space and the workforce to be able to implement things and start seeing things done is where we will see the changes in our small businesses and our communities and our social settings and us as a

people. i so appreciate what we are doing here as small business commission and the changes we are making, but i want you to know that there is a company here that is on the ground working with the community in a place where we are literally able to change the trajectory of how they are thinking, feeling. now when i tell you those same 14 all 14-first time this happened-all 14 of them have been put in a program of some sort, job placement, starting college, new jobs, every single one of them has taken a complete turn, and we are talking about one of the hardest neighborhoods on that side. that area. so, i am so grateful for the

partnerships that i had and donors. i cannot forget all the people that donated as well. but it was a huge success and so i thought i would share that because business isn't just about making money, my business is people, and people is what should always be priority, even when we look at legislation and law changes and all these things, it has to be what is going to allow us to elevate and get us to a better place so we can continue to create this amazing community and not talking about just neighborhoods, i'm talking about san francisco as a community. >> i think it is pretty clear that any one of our commissioners here could probably serve on any number of commissions in the city and serve in any number of

capacities. given your expertise, your skill, your passion and your commitment, so i am very grateful that you choose to serve on the small business commission. i think that's a testament to again how important small business is. that is what we have been saying all night is that we are really holding the crux of culture, the crux of the future of san francisco here and i think we touched upon probably like every subject tonight. we had a roller coaster of emotions tonight, and this is not anything different then like how our daily lives are run really. this is all of us like sharing reporting out what we have done in the last few weeks. if anybody

wants to find like the good in san francisco, i think it distilled right here. >> thank you so much commissioner for telling that story of really how small business in real time are creating society changeism i wanted to tell a cool story about something i went to this weekday. it is the 50 year anniversary of the historic coors beer strike in 1973. it is an amazing piece of history because it is labor history, lgbtq history, arab american and small business history, all like interconnecting. it was started by the teamsters union but it was a great coalition that formed around a

consumer boycott-communities came together to boycott. san francisco was the epicenter so i want to this training where they reached out to all the communities that had been part of it and brought them together and it was actually-1973 the teamsters the beer delivery drivers lead the strike and then they started picting the small retailers and at the time the eric american grocer association was coming off supporting the gallo striking and holding the picket line. they were lead by palestinians at the time. they said dont protest, let us join you so this was a historic moment where small business joined

with big labor in holding a picket line and then the lgbtq community came out and worked with all the bars and got the coors out, so this was such an amazing moment for me to see the continuity of that work. one of the teamster academics contacted me because they found a letter that was signed by two leaders of the grocers association at that time and their grandkids are the ones still involved and leading arab american organizing in the bay area today and so, they had some of old timers part of the teamsters at the time and talking about the-there was a u.s. march that met with the palestinian march on market street and it was migrant worker small business solidarity and it was

just so beautiful to see that we still have that framework in the city that we build from so that was just my story. >> thank you. after commissioner dickerson story i wasn't going to share any of the things (indiscernible) that was incredible. i think your reteat is a highlight of the year. thank you for sharing that. i also wanted to thank you and commissioner carter for hosting several student gruchs groups i have been leading. i have been working on this project i guess program called the unity road trip sponsored by rams in san francisco and we take 10 young women, high school students on the road for a month

and 5 are chinese american, 5 african american and they go on this road trip to learn about their chinese and black history and sustainable farming as well this year, and they are leaving this friday and they will be back at the end of july. pretty crazy. they are going on the road and learn and also obviously learn about themselves. that will be the most immediate thing they will learn, and so for the last week we have been doing pre-trip activities to give them a understanding of some things we have here as well as just basic kind of history, and i have been so fortunate to meet and hook up with so many different historians who share just such a unique perspective of history and have shared how malleable history is and how important it is to see it from

different perspectives, because we have been given a certain type of history, a certain view of history and that is not the truth for everyone, and so to be able to see history through many different eyes and do walking tours in the neighborhood. we went through chinatown and bayview and had bunch with commissioner carter and having everyone share share stories. (indiscernible) got to share her story. seeing diversity and what people choose and profession, how people get to a place in life i think is incredibly valuable to not only young people, but for me too. i guess i'm still relatively young, but [laughter] for all of us to have a better understanding that life is full of possibilities and

so yeah, they are off this friday and meet with a host of people starting with i think alfred hampton, jr. in chicago, so they'll start there and make their way around the country and back home. thank you very much for supporting them. yeah. it literally was just a idea. i think that is the other thing. everyone can come up with these ideas and then we just find people to support them and i mean, i think if there is anybody out with a ton of money in the pockets they don't know what to do with, we have so many ideas. [laughter] >> (indiscernible) >> i know. and then the other piece i wanted to bring forth in terms of the more immediate future is, maybe i'll

share about the apec conference. just to keep you in the loop since there are two listeners on the line. >> three. >> three, oh! somebody must have told someone to listen in. i was going to share about apec asian pacific economic cooperation and basically like a group of 21 member economies from all over asian pacific and they have a series of meetings throughout the year but the leader summit is in november of this year in san francisco. the leaders and heads of state of these nations will be coming to san francisco in november, so we should hopefully be ready to give a warm welcome to president biden as

well as president and heads of state and finance ministers and all sorts of people in november. just to give a heads up to all of us since we have such reach in our communities that each delegation is expected to bring probably like 50 or so people from their country to check out san francisco, see what's it's all about and love to give opportunities for them to see our neighborhoods, so i think director tang has really-and (indiscernible) will be big advocates making sure small business is represented because we are one of the most wonderfuls about coming to san francisco. i think restaurants should be excited, street activations like all sorts of things to be able to welcome all

these delegates and people from all over the world. some ideas i had were getting young people involved in this too and insuring we have a pathway for young people to understand we are connecting and we have a future and they should travel abroad and come back and see why san francisco is so awesome too. that was the basic information. there is not a lot more but i have the website to share if you want to learn more. >> (indiscernible) >> there is 21 countries and the person from the state department who came to host info sessions was saying this is the tag i thought was really cool is like this is a largest diplomatic event that san francisco has seen since the formation of the un. this is

like a big deal. it is amazing to me that again, like what you are saying, we don't talk about the big deal. for some reason we just don't share that news, so this is a huge deal. that's all that i have. any other commissioner comments? okay. public comment? >> there is none. >> okay, seeing no public comment, public comment is closed. next item. >> item 10, adjournment. sf gov tv show the office of small business slide. the small business commission is a official public forum to voice opinions and concerns about policies that effect the economic vitamty of small businesses in san francisco. if you need assistance with small business matters, continue to reach out to the office of small business. meeting adjourned.

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