in san francisco. our deepest condolences to the lives toucheded by joyce. we wish her fare well will and know that her spirit remains with us always as long as we continue to say her name. thank you. thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. good afternoon supervisors beverly from the san francisco [inaudible] language access a matter of life and death to so many survivors of domestic violence in san francisco and beyond. we want to applaud supervisor walton and his on whiches for updating and uplifting and advancing language access in san francisco. and we want to thank you all for your hard work and leadership this left year and look forward to working with you soon.

thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> can you hear me okay yoochl >> david pilpel. i wanted to support the memoryium for tony bennett in peculiar charmy marstelar i anyhow him limp from long ethic commission meetings and while there are people with strong views in the city and people who speak loudly, people who think deeply, charmy was unique in thinking deeply and about the long game and speaking softly and carefully and you know really being an example of the whole kahl civic engagement i will remember him greatly exported to support allen ma

nalo and the filipino municipality in the loss for this community and the city. in general. thank you very much for listening. >> thank you. next speaker, please. i'm oliver the managing director of the [inaudible]. yell 17th lost the brightest stars joyce ma nalo will be remembered the linchpins in our community. she with her husband allen took over the rairn in 98 transform to an epicenter of performing arts n. process linked bay area artists with traditions the ground breaking theater of the people. filipino theatre association.

theater for sxefrn theater troupe. the members laid part of foundation for benefits in culture. costume designer a playful flair all root in the her strong filipino identity. productions most notablely [inaudible] careful attention detail each character to life cultural garments and hand made costumes and fresh produce and accessaries for string bean bracelets. proud was achievement cocreated [inaudible] features commitment performs in pagallow. selected from the [inaudible] cultural center of the philippines. brings to our shores from the plays and modern day theatre.

artistic director says [inaudible]. develop was support for those behind the scenes the first time we do theatre in our mother tongue. im guarantee who is have grapple with asimulation provided a sense of pride. throughout her life joyce shown the spot light choose to empower to shine for work and thank you. apol gees setting the timer for 2 minutes for everyone. next speaker, please. [speaking spanish].

this is a summary. good afternoon the board i'm mar ra, i am a member of of [inaudible] a [inaudible] and social worker. in the commune and i like to express to you how frustrating it is for mow to encounter people in many service. such as hospitals or fire stagsz or in housing. that don't provide proper language access services. so i'm asking to you support this amendment and i would like to thank supervisor walton and his staff for working so hard on this. and looking out for the needs of

theim grant community and supporting the ralph of the amendment. thank you. >> and for the interpretation. hear from the next caller, please. hi. it is joe comfort. always an honor to speak to the world famous board of supervisors. and i'm grill for the honor. i first want to add my support for the memory of tony bennett in his famous [inaudible] in san francisco. i think only supervisor stefani with replace him as san francisco's greatest song writer and tonight i resolution urge happening [inaudible] to the [inaudible] i think this is irrelevant important. we have far right irresponsible

political people. [inaudible] injured an davis -- on the west coast. i think if keep need to protecting our comments. there has been a lot of hate thrown at shannon [inaudible] and i think you know in case don't know is the founder of action. and receiving hate frankly among other things. free flowers and canned competence certificate of honor. that is how think about [inaudible] speak for those who can't. i think this resolution 851 is [inaudible] to that. thank you for your public service. happy summer vac vacation. we have sick listening and 2 in

the queue. if you would like to make comments make sure you press star 3 otherwise we will take this last group to the end. next speaker, please. this is gloria bari d 10. it is no brainer to assure language access. however although i have not had time to read the minutes regard will i like to express a concern of mine in regards to language access. the african-american community is always left out when it miss to the subject. we are often included in the english speaking group the way we speak and verbage we use sometimes is not understood by others. we have to [inaudible] not easy for all of us including myself. for example. you over stands around dig fill

mow 100 some supervisors just understood that. for those who did not this . is exact mroe what happens in the trenches. it is also a big reason why some folks most affected by language additionals don't participate in public meant. a grossly affects hiring. we need hiring to include a culturally competent language category. too many are hired in positions but in the qualified community with the black community and miss intercept us. this is at the federal level down. thank you. thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello. this is shirley [inaudible] and i am calling first.

>> and the rest of them. will like to legislation people don't know i'm a black woman here all my life since 1957 will born here in children's hospital my grand mother spoke no english. she was cuban. and so in those days it was very difficult. i did not realize the difficulties this my grand mother had nil went to china and several times under willie brown the first time and i spoke no mandarin or chinese. and -- i was lost. it is essential that we level the playing field for everyone. to we all can community

effectively -- services ie hospital services deny service lack of ability and enjoy your vacation, well deserved and thank you supervisor walton. wroo thank you for year comments. hear from our next caller. >> i'm -- and -- am i'm call nothing to thank supervisor supervisor peskin for his tribute to charmy marstellar. >> can you turn your television down that way we can hear you better. you have a minute and 54 seconds left. >> next speaker, please paul,

call back. next speaker, please. hello? welcome. good afternoon supervisors my name is [inaudible]. and i'm with [inaudible]. i would like to thank supervisor walton efforts and urge other members of the board to support the legislation that is introduced to you today and 2018 some conducted know assessment to report of the city's language access and found there are major gaps and a lot of work needs to be done to provide language access and language equity tow limited english proefficient san franciscans and some would like to extend our heart felt condolences to allen ma nala and

friends and family of joyce. thank you supervisor supervisor peskin and tony for sharing and shedding i light on the contribution that joyce has done. politic [inaudible] joyce brought filipino to san francisco. so show casing our work andow community felt connected. as anim guarantee who speaks [inaudible] the show and learning with the youth to the show. move that will leave enterprised and inspired that we were able to hear in their native tongue. so -- excuse me.

extend our deepest thank you to joyce for share thanksgiving with us. we love you joyce and allen. thank you for all the work you have done. and you will not be forgotten. thank you. thank you. mr. chu other callers in the queue? >> there are no callers in the queue >> okay >> i will express apol i don'ts to paul. thank you for try to call in paul if you wanted submit 150 word statement we will include this in the minutes. mr. president. public comment is now closed. colleagues if we can return to item number 19. i have circulated an amendment approved as to form to the annual salary ordinance police

section and will let me put this in a bit of context. mr. president, we have member who is have not receive third degree item. >> i sent it to everybody. e mailed. e mail today to everyone. let me look here. during of the course of this meeting. duplicated aso containing police department amendment. colleagues attached is my propose the ma'am to the police section was aso right sizes the police department command staff to reduce one of 2 assist an chief positions and 3 of 8 command are positions the ordinance substituted 7. 69 rank and file kwshg 4 positions savings eliminating the

position. sum rise this reduces 10395ft sxeshgs 3-0490fte's in each fiscal year and add 7. 6924 in fiscal 24 and 8.3q for you in fiscal 25. and the language is attached and yu did in the get it when i sent it at 4:12 i don't know it is copied to the city attorney. the clerk of the board we will figure out why it did not go out. put as a matter of policy. as a matter of policy let me walk you through the numbers we don't have to vote on this today. continue this conversation and like the board to allow the conversation to continue by

voting to amend 19 and we will talk about it in the future. but here is what i want everybody to remember. in fiscal up until reasonable, we had more >> a staff of 9 keeping with other staff to rank and file ratios. reasonable our staff grown from 9 to 15. this result in pension linocaine i submit to and you argue that it is not necessarily resulting in better policing. i am not saying that the individuals do not fulfill important functions. i am submitting to you, clothe this is they can and have been done by lesser ranks. of captains and civilians.

but i would like to continue to have that conversation which i have been attempt to have over a number of years and showedum at budget and appropriation to make this pitch i don't want to vote today i would like to continue this conversation. and i say that in light of. the rank of cap aaron increased over that 21 years. we now have 31 captains and used to have 29. we used to have one assistant chief now 2. we had 4 department chiefs we have 5. we had 5 commanders now 8. and we have as we all know less daily q2 and 4's than we had the at time when command staff was higher. when our pension liability was lower. and i say that and this is not about the issues that this district supervisor says i net

that since june the 30th the district i representative happens to be grounds zero for tourism and half of downtown. has not had a captain in either one of the stations. there have been promotions to the command staff. there will be in august promotions to captains and central station and northern station will have captains. i find this all to be troubling and you know i have been public i said in the chronicle the day before yesterday. that we can muster 100 officers to deal with the hill bomb but i said earlier in my roll call this we have not been able to muster and comprehensively arrest and charge the liege yons of drug dealers down the street. i'm tired of it. that is the proposal. i'm sorry upon that this e mail

i sent does not seem to hit your in box. very simply stated reduces 2 assist an chiefs to one and 8 commander to 5. and then subconstitutes 7. 69 q4 in 2024 and 8.3 in 2025. supervisor chan. >> thank you. i think for those of us been through this process we had this conversation. with our chief and if chief recalls, i know the acknowledge chief bill scott is here with us. i think for those of us been through that and president supervisor peskin was there as well we had this conversation. about you know the command staff

the right size and the chief defenltdzed his decision. we talked but know again structure. we have the budget and legislative analyst report. comparing the command staff to other city and whether there th is the right way to go or not. i will say that we had many questions not just to the police department to many city departments and is the budget that we voted the second reading on and 10 to one is this the perfect budget. no. i think that all of us would agree is not. a perfect budget of do we all have everything that we wanted? at least i know, no. it did not have everything i asked for. and hoped for the city and that tong where we'll head next

fiscal year i said tough road ahead. so -- you know while that everybody is wishing us to go on vacation i can guarantee the public that we may be on recess i know i myself and actually colleagues i can't peek for all i believe many of you will be working during recess we know especially the budget and finance and budget and appropriation committee will be stick around. we will be think about this budget ahead. it says a lot of work to do. and with that said, i again i appreciate and we had the conversations about when we could shift the resources so we can have rank and file. you know more beat officers and when we do. and -- is this the way to go? i think that you when we have an agreement and in this case like as a budget chair i had an

agreement and feel like the mayor. and her team and city departments we went through a process and vet today. we come to an agreement. and i will stand boy that agreement. at this moment and i am going to do so can we continue this conversation absolutely. because as i'm learning in the last couple days we may or may not phase an administration that may or may not make adjustments to our budget this we agreed to and so we are clear the executive branch can make a lot of decisions with this point tomorrow. and you know when the mir signed her budget when she proposed the budget againful during this time the public should not board have no way to intervene in may be with the exception they come to us for accept element what will they over spends or approve

contract. amend the contract. leverage sure. but i think that in good faith i would urge clothes to think it through and i it is the reason why while i support what is before us today i urge us to continue this conversation and not vote today. and novelty to decide today. and to be able to say, will through it time as we step away and return it september i believe the first will be september fifth. that during this time we think about not just on the police budget but the over all city budget, we had a conversation not just about the commands staff. we know that by the way of clothes we know that all the manager positions has over all

increased by significant percentages throughout all diameters and you know we need to think about how we approach city government and whether they will have to be adjustments not just with the police departments but with all city departments those other conversations that we must have. and i think we have been having them. during the committee. you know. as the -- mall will detail wll we wanted allow certain specifications to be from an administrative position to manager position we have upon down to that detail of conversation. again. this it is not a new conversation for the budget committee we had them about shift being the staff to which see more rank and file and had

these conversation already. i think that we have been throughout sxresz here we are to nothing out and make this changes. i would like to have were i see this director and, is here if through president supervisor peskin if we may ask director doony help us understands how this amendment would change the existing budget and make this amendment. >> i'm happy but it is cost newt roll a policy decision whether or not we agree that the command staff would be smaller, which would be 7. 69 and however positions i said in the following fiscal year. go ahead.

good evening. so my understanding you d. pass the budget on the second reading. and the mayor plans to sign that with all of you tomorrow at 11 a.m. on the mayor's balcony if this moves forward in september we'll be back deciding whether or not the police department should have 4 command staff positions and add to the rank and file. people are occupied the command staff positions. so what that means is the department would not longer have the authority by board to keep people in the po sxigsz have to rearrange. will current leader help at that time. we did ask the chief to come to peek to this if you would like to hear directly. butt budget will be signed tomorrow. and this conversation is up to

you all continue in september or not. >> to be clear. this would trail the budget and yes f this board voted for it, some commanders would bump down 2 captains that is when this would do. chief if you want to pipe in? go ahead. you know i'm a dock dog with a bone i don't like it then and still don't. >> thank you president supervisor peskin. its not that simple i understand the financial part and from that perspective it is everything is good and even spot severing not good. listening toior analysis. policing has evolved the last 21 years and 5 years. has evolved the last 2 years to

meet the demands behalf we are face nothing 2023 zee to have an infrastructure and to disasemble infrastructure it takes to police in a city with challenges. the risk management and those jobs are full timions and then some. to push this w down if one of the positions are e eliminated a deputy chief is e eliminated the work that assistant is doing done by a deputy chief. 5 deputy chiefs, violation,

administration, airport. and then special operations f. either does not get done or watered down. . that has a multiplying affect the commanders we put this place 3 commanders as you mentioned one commander that went risk management and legal administrative internal apars and the management, in the d. good example of why that was needed just electric at our process for officer involved shootings we do not compares to 2017 before this was created when we have an officer shooting that commander is in charge of a production this is gored toward transparency. we have in my opinion and told the best processes in the

country in terms of transparency and and this simple because we have a stopper control and oversight function. am so. that was a consent decree. commune engagement another recommend thagz had position now is loaned address just when you just talked about. president supervisor peskin the drug market. and this common laweder is now -- okay nothing the capacity of rung the command to deal with this issue this we have not been able to get arms around in the line comploin soma with drug deal figure that goes away that goes away. so we put the structure in place what we were doing was not

meeting the challenges of what we need to meet and to disasemble that at this time would take that ability away. to me not a smart thing to do what we have been doing and what we have been doing is not meeting the mark. >>. and of now we are on pace to have birth class in the next round everround it takes infrastructure and mroegs e involved one last example in terms of that other inform in the bureau our policy process from 19 noeverto 2 years ago a toast 20dgo's redone. right mull we have 44 general orders in froefsz being resunrised this year.

44. we have done more this year than in 20 years it takes a lot of work and process and a lot of meetings and and community engagement to do that you can't do this without people. these positions in place not because this fad or fashion or came out of nowhere they near place because of the need and if we disasemble this staff that need will not be met. and then what, the question and then what. good ole days were good ole days we had when we had then policing is different than 20 or 3 years ago we are trying to meet the demand with the infrastructure and the left thing on this we deputy and have done a comparison how we stand with departments our size. we are right on parwith everybody else in command staff. there are few that are mauler

and larger we are where we need to be that is what the consultant upon this board brought to the city. 3 years ago that is when they said in the property and when they said when they met before the police commission our staff is where it needs to be with what is in front of us. thank you for allowing me it speak. i appreciate it chief scott this exact conversation i want us to all to have. i would submit this. am which is that there is so much turn within the positions and the command staff and people move quickly from i get used to a cap cane they become a commander and deputy chief the gem you refer to over seeing the tenderloin we are looking for

results we have not seen fast enough is a department chief. turn over due to retimers. people are ready to retire this is why infrastructure is so importantful from a management sustained point and a continuity stand point. when we have to do is create process and good infrastructure and then training the people to be ready for additional responsibility when we have the retirements and that goes from this position i'm sitting in. down to whatever position leadership we have if we don't

poise ourselves to be able to ash sorb that turn over, and we are not, lone in this turn over. this last 3 years more turn over at the across the board and the executive level of the police departments across the country we have seen in my career. there has been more turn over than any of us could imagine mag and i don't think this will change in the best bet to guard against that is put together a solit infrastructure when we are able when we have to make changes we can make them exit will say this. people you mentioned they were ready because we have done that. it etch created the training the opportunity come we can plug people in the next phase are captain's promotions coming up and done a lot in the department

to get people ready because of the reason you mentioned it will not go, way the trend we are seeing. and not just us. we this is all overnight country and daily we are people are retiring and the executive positions so -- the next best thing is prepared and have the infrastructure to absorb it when it happens. all i know car break in's in the northeast corner of the city every tourist come in are novelty up 10% or 15%. they're 300%. i mean if you hear a frustrated supervisor that's what i'm experiencing and when yesterday -- a neighbor of mine sent me a photo by his house of all of their worldly possessions scattered in the street this . 374 incidents on the same corn

are i'm like. yea i want more rank and file cops. supervisor dorsey. >> thank you. i would not support rugs the size of the command staff i am inclineed support continuing this to give the opportunity to keep the conversation going. i think it is general low important when city departments have questions raised about the management of city departments that we allow for the opportunity to answer those questions and revisit them. they are person thing and it is true, important i saw the issues

in civil litigation about challenges our police department have faced. i was interested when obama launched the task force on policing. i saw the ruand know this a lot of the work that san francisco police department has done is important work and not just for san francisco but in my view for law enforcement agencies that was why when there was know opportunity to work at the san francisco police department i wanted that was where i wanted be. it was important work. i get why there are roles that

theory different. i think if a core principles allow for conversation to play out. i think we should then and there. it is worth it. >> supervisor mandelman. thank you. i have -- been suggest thanksgiving or think about this possibility we have made there is in question we made policing less efficient. in the left 10 years. made policing more administrative and good reasons and good reasons to measure and monitor and over seeing. it does money that you get less per person.

i have been looshg at traffic enforcement the deupon kline. and i think00ue know as we think about increased concern about public safety and property crime. you know we may want to think whether the efficiency trids we made not once we can afford. ask the float do and how we have them do this not just a conversation about the salary owner or the command staff. that is a conversation about department general ords. we need to start having in ways.

i'm not comfortable doing it look at 3 positions in the saul row ordinance that said if no , i'm not going to vote to make changeis don't believe in i don't have a problem with continuing as long as the budget director and controller there is no terrible thing we're participating the floor falls out if they don't have a salary ordinance. intrieshz preston. >> thank you. president supervisor peskin. if a major of this body believes there is excess money for

command positions in the budget then i would hope them the discussion was broad are then and there whether we should move that money in other police department positions. fairly significant revelation and funny i voted against the budget because of when i view as massive amounts of money. happy to shrilleda conversation about whether the police department budget is too much but -- will the extend there is too much i don't know the amount. over a million bucks and you know we heard from public commenters food banks cut and we know things in the community therapy cut or not receiving the full funding we allmented them

to have. i don't feel i'm equiped vote on this today. i do recognize that policing has changed the last few years and extras it is less efficient. there was a department of justice road map we needed to have a police mission on it and voted for the members.

and we have you know -- all said that we passport those changes. i of course back there i have been frustrated with electric of data coming out. i think there is discussions this needs to happen before we do anything like this. i would welcome a discussion the budget committee did a lot of work and made agreements. we'll revisit tido want more information. i want to understands if there will be layoffs or demotions.

i'm inclined continue this conversation on september fifth and i also articulate i reserve the right to the possibility having the duplicate file sent become to the committee and having the conversation at committee level as well. i want to keep my options open and i the make the motion to continue this item.

for september 5 yoochl supervisor chan, i think the appropriate thing to do is there is i million ways to have this conversation. i will introduce this amendment to the budget today. and tell come before the budget committee in septemberful full board with take it up later in september. why you are looking at me like that. what is the process. rather than i will table the duplicate file. introduce an amendment. discussed in committee in september. and then the board will dispose of it as sees fit.

you are take the severalty i'm it is -- it is the same thing this is a trailing piece of legislation. will be done as a duplicated file or done as the introduction of an amendment:right. remember that we voted on the budget if i keep a duplicated file the same. then it goes away unless we amend it here today to continue that conversation. rather than doing that i will introduce an as oshg amendment as i described reduce it from one 2 to one to 8 to 5. and you will get to have that conversation in your commit eye in september. >> and figure out the commit eye and come back >> there you go. joupds good >> intrierdz stefani. i have a quick question to the president to the chief. individuals already promoted and

worked for the promotion and relying on these. explain evolution in policing yu need this infrastructure. and we are short 5 or sick00 officers. i will be inclined be hopeful we fulfill it with the officers. i think we have few core all of us as colleagues understands why people are retiring and why you want to be a police officer. we need to address that issue. they are not just they are pulling them out of thin air.

try recruit and hire more officer and do a support officers so -- people want to join the profession. why we are not dealing with rank and file command staff get pay increases retire at that level. i'm talking about stability i'm not talking about q2's, command are and chos and assistant chiefs retire figure you get them if a year it was not a good investment. my friends. >> supervisor preston. i want to request that remember

the extent you introduce a new vehicle to make the amendments heard in budget of that they be accompanied by whatever instrument would allow us should the budget committee decide to do that. to allocate the funds. in other words if you are doing it as oshg amendment i think we can be an aa amendment and look where the positions are. not if trying to predecides that to the extent you are dog a new intro go to budget that would be my friends low request.

good aftering. thank you for hearing my frust rayings thank you for coming. chief. duplicated file unduplicated. amendments submitted. would you go to the adoption without committee reference calendar. >> item 77-84 introduced for adoption without reference and unanimous vote is requires for resolutions on first reading today alternateively a member may require a resolution on first read to go to committee. >> would any member or members like an item or items severed, supervisor engardio. cosponsor 82. noted. supervisor walton. >> yes. sever 80, 81 and 83. >> all right. on the balance of the calendar

77, 78. sfievenl 82 and 84 a roll call. >> supervisor chan. >> aye. >> supervisor dorsey. >> aye. >> supervisor engardio. >> aye. >> supervisor mandelman. >> aye. >> supervisor melgar. >> aye. >> supervisor supervisor peskin. >> aye. >> supervisor preston. >> aye. >> supervisor ronen. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> supervisor stefani. >> aye. >> and walon. >> ab7 there are 10. >> they are adopted and motion approved. >> will you read 80. >> item 80 a resolution to urge city condition tractors participated and profit friday slave trades to make volunteer

contributions to e lierate slavery wrochl supervisor dorsey. >> i wanted express gratitude to walton for leadership on this and added as a cosponsor. >> noted. supervisor walton. thank you. clothes i do have 5 amendments my office has of and they're nonsubstantive to the file and i would read them quickly. you have all received these page one line one 3 add and city controller after administrative. page 1 line 17 add comma to the city controller's office comma after account. pain 2 tlur-7 ordinance number 275-06 requires the office of city add administrator encourage all contractors subject to make vol they're contributions to an acounsel to be used the legacy

of the slave rear era on persons subjected slavery and descendants page 3 line 11 and 12 the administrator and controltory cent letters to all city vendors by ordinance 275-0 sick after urges. and page 3 line 12 and 13 strike contracts profits to make after number 275-0 sick. amendments made by supervisor walton is there a second for those amendments made by supervisor ronen? without objection. the amendments are adoptd and on the item as amended a roll call. >> item 80 supervisor chan. >> aye yoochl dorsey >> aye >> engardio. >> aye >> mandelman. >> aye >> supervisor melgar.

>> aye. >> supervisor supervisor peskin. >> aye. >> supervisor preston. >> aye. >> supervisor ronen. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> supervisor stefani. >> aye. >> and supervisor walton. >> aye. >> there are 11 aye's. >> the resolution is adopted. madam clerk. 81. >> 81 resolution to urge the continuation of anchor brewing companies legacy anchor work and production distribution and repair zoning 15 interior 5 mariposa street and 495 that harrow street. >> i believe i e mailed ask i be added as a cosponsor if i have not do so. supervisor walton. >> thank you, president supervisor peskin. i have nonsubstantive amendments for item 81. chief of staff circulated these

ma'ams yesterday by e mail and strike local 10 and change to local sick page 3 line fwenlt. pang 4. pang 5. and local 6 is the one represents warehouse workers and workers at anchor brewing adding where as on page 12 july 19 workers at anchor brewing local 6 announced an effort to pursue lovely ownership and. reflects the update from the workers and june. adding a further resolve on page 5 line 8-13. upon san francisco board of supervisors urges to work and transparent with through the process of co-op conversion including enough time to create the framework for the cooperative and raise funds for purwhich is committee not

sellout businesses before these workers have had sufficient chance to accomplice a fair bid. and be it. i like to move these amendments >> motion bayh made by walton a second. supervisor stefani take the amendments without objection. supervisor melgar. >> i want to be added. >> noted. on the item as amended same house same call it is adopted madam clerk item 83. >> resolution to urge social mode why platforms enforce community standardses and guidelines to preventy content prosecute meeting guns racism hate that violates the community standards through the plat formos meta, facebook, instagram. tech to being and other product and services. >> supervisor walton. thank you president supervisor peskin >> last week with supervisor steph no silent low introduced a

residence luge urging social media enforce community standards and guidelines prevent and e eliminate content prosecute mosting gun violence, racism or hate. i want to thank entireses engardio, ronen, preston and supervisor peskin for early cosponsorship. social media trandz form happened way way we share information and sharing of threatening content this lead to homicides across the bay including in cities like san francisco. and oak land.