will! >> oh. daydreaming. thanks, everybody for watching! bye! [music] good afternoon. an announcement for asl viewers. due to the importance of showing unobstructed videos, we ask that our asl viewers use the webex link provided in the description of the live stream. for viewers who would like this town hall meeting to be translated, please click on the webex link in the

live stream description and click the icon in the bottom left corner to select your preferred language. good afternoon. we're here today for a virtual town hall regarding an officer involved shooting that occurred on wednesday, july 26, 2023, in the intersection of catalina street and fairfax avenue. before proceeding, i'd like to announce to our viewing and listening audience that this town hall is being translated into spanish, cantonese and american sign language. asl for members of our community who speak those languages without suggesting a premature judgment on the appropriateness of the force used in this particular incident. today's presentation will include details from an officer involved shooting incident that ended tragically claiming the life of 41 year old ryan bluford. i'd like to express my deepest condolences

to mr. bluford surviving family members for the tragedy they've experienced in the san francisco police department. we recognize that our sworn duty as law enforcement officers imposes no more solemn obligation on us than to honor and respect the sanctity of human life. we also know that as police officers, we are sometimes required to use force, including deadly force at times in the performance of our duties. we recognize, too, that officer involved shootings can have a traumatic effect on members of our communities, especially for individuals that families and loved ones who have suffered traumas of their own and encounters with the criminal justice system. wherever it may be. to any of our viewers, experience trauma from this incident or from the information or images that we will present in this town hall, please know that help is available to you. you may contact the san francisco department of public health's crisis line. at

40159703800 for trauma services . so here's what we hope to accomplish today. first and foremost, it is the san francisco police department is aspiration to be a national model of 21st century policing. we work to earn the trust of those we serve by committing to transparency and to the tenets of procedural justice. in this process and in the town hall presentations, procedural justice depends on the legitimacy of police as well as our entire criminal justice system. with these town halls, we work to embody the foundational tenets of what procedure justice is all about. we will release facts known to us at this time about this incident. we will try to do so in a manner that is impartial and neutral. we will answer questions from members of the public as well as members of the news media and we will listen to public feedback. acting commander mark m will be

presenting the facts of this case in a few minutes before before turning the floor over to him. however i want to emphasize that this incident is subject to multiple independent and ongoing investigations. as such, there may be some information we cannot release at this time either because of the release of the certain information is prohibited by law or the release of certain information could compromise an ongoing investigation or because certain facts have not yet been established with certainty. in other words, we are not able to release unconfirmed information . next, acting commander mark m's presentation will include detailed verbal narratives of the facts as we know them, as well as audio and video content from the officer involved. shooting incident. sfpd officers who responded to the scene were wearing department issued body worn camera, which were activated while they were on

their way to the incident, consisting with our body worn camera policy department. general order 10.11. you will see body worn camera video from these officers from multiple perspectives at the san francisco police department. our commitment to full transparency has guided our officer involved shooting investigations and town halls for several years now. although our practices predate the enactment of many police transparency and accountability laws in california, we believe our approach has remained consistent with the letter and spirit of reform implemented by senate bill 1421 for police transparency and assembly bill 1506 for police accountability. sfpd commitment to transparency in this process will also be reflected in the release of information online. video from this town hall include audio recordings from 901 calls and dispatchers and video footage i just mentioned will be posted on sfpd website at san francisco.

police.org. it will remain there for public viewing as a reminder , all of spd's governing policies and procedures can also be found on our website. san francisco police department directives mandate that we release the names of officers from officer-involved shootings unless safety concerns argue against disclosure. in this matter, we've identified no safety concerns and acting commander mark m will release the names of the officers as a part of this presentation. i'd like to explain now the investigative processes for officer involved shootings. san francisco has a multi agency response to officer-involved shootings and each agency's investigate is independent. whenever an officer-involved shooting occurs in san francisco involving an on-duty san francisco police officer, the following agencies are immediately notified. the spd's

investigative services detail or isd is the unit responsible for investigating the events that led up to the officer involved shooting. in this case, the activity being investigated is an assault with a deadly weapon and a prohibited person with a firearm. the spd's internal affairs division iad is responsible for conducting an administrative investigation to determine if the officer or officers responsible for the ois are in compliance with the standards and requirements of sfpd policy. although the investigations are, both sfpd units run in parallel. each has a distinct investigative purview and focus. each maintains a strict internal firewall to comply with legal standards and requirements. the san francisco department of police accountability, or dpa, conducts an independent administrative investigation. in san francisco, voters created dpa as a

successor to the office of citizen complaints with their passage of proposition d in. june 2016. dpa investigates all sfpd incidents of which any of our officers discharge a weapon within the course and scope of their duties. and whenever that discharge results in an individual's injury or death. the san francisco district attorney's office, independent investigations bureau, or iib, is responsible for determining determining the legality of the officer-involved shooting based on their independent investigation and review. the district attorney of the county of san francisco will make the final decision as to whether the officer's actions comply with the laws of the state of california. the san francisco office of the chief medical examiner, or ocm, has a responsibility for conducting an on scene investigation, collecting evidence and taking

custody of the deceased person and any officer involved shooting that results in a fatality in tragic cases such as these. the ocm is responsible for conducting an autopsy to determine the decedent's cause of death and to report those findings publicly. and this incident, because mr. bluford died from his injuries, the ocm will conduct an investigation to determine his cause of death. all notified agencies dispatched and dispatched investigators and the appropriate personnel to begin their investigations and independent investigations. recall on this incident and respondent. finally, i'd like to point out that we take community feedback very seriously based on feedback from prior officer involved shooting town halls. we also take questions and answer them to the extent that we're able understanding that this incident remains an ongoing investigation. we will allocate

one hour for public comments and questions and conclude this town hall. approximately 5:15 p.m. thank you very much for joining us today. and now acting commander mark m. thank you, chief scott. the officer involved shooting or incident discussed in this presentation started on wednesday, july 26th, 2023, at approximately. 2:46 p.m. and took place at the intersection of fairfax avenue and catalina street in the bayview. hunters point neighborhood. this incident involves san francisco police department, plainclothes officers assigned to the community violence reduction team, or cvs and uniformed patrol officers assigned to bayview police station. the officers who discharge their firearms were two uniformed officers assigned to bayview station. in this presentation,

you will hear the following police terminology and radio code language commonly used by officers. 407 is police radio code for prisoner transportation. 408 is police radio code for ambulance 9.17 is police radio code for suspicious person 216 is police radio code for shots fired. 221 is police radio code for person with a gun. 1013 is police radio code for advised condition at scene 1025 is police radio code for respond as backup. 1097 is police radio code for arrived at scene 1098 is police radio code for in route to new location. code three is police radio code for emergency response. code 33 is police radio code for emergency. clear channel. bwc is body worn camera. ois is an

officer involved shooting company is police terminology for the station in dispatch is the department of emergency management dispatcher and radio communication system. plain clothes refers to non uniformed sworn police officers who detect crime conduct investigations, conduct surveillance and participate in planned operations and directed enforcement. public safety statement is information obtained by supervisor from an officer who utilized lethal force at an officer involved shooting. questions are intended to determine existing threats to public safety and identify transitory evidence that must be preserved. the scope of this statement is limited to the collection of such critical, fleeting information. in the immediate aftermath of these critical incidents, it is the department's policy to deactivate body worn cameras before obtaining public safety statements. the policy instructs the supervisor to remind the

involved officers not to discuss the incident further at the scene. the precise chronology of this incident is currently under investigation in the times presented are approximate. the following is a summary of the events as they are understood as of today and may evolve as further information is learned through the investigation. a word of caution there is profanity in graphic images in this presentation as of august 4th, 2023. we believe the facts are as follows. at approximately 2:30 p.m, three officers assigned to cvr were working in the bayview hunters point neighborhood, driving an unmarked department vehicle. these officers were working in plainclothes capacity, equipped with their department issued firearm. their body worn camera and their department issued radio. the cvr. officers wore clothing that displayed the word police and sfpd logos. the cvr

officers observed a group of five people on the pedestrian walkway at the end of cashmere street and hudson avenue. the cvr officers recognized one person who had an active felony warrant for their arrest. when the cvr officers circled back to take enforcement action, the group of people were no longer in the same area. the cvr officers exited their vehicle and walked the pedestrian pathway going towards fairfax avenue and catalina street at approximately 2:44 p.m. the cvr officers went through an open gate and located the same group of people in the courtyard of an apartment complex on the 1000 block of fairfax avenue. the cvr officers confirmed the wanted persons identity advised the person of their warrant and placed them under arrest. the cvr officers advised dispatch to put them on a suspicious person, call and escort the person in custody to the corner of fairfax

avenue and catalina street. the remaining four people from the group and an unknown female bystander also followed the cvr officers to the corner of fairfax avenue and catalina street. the cvr officers requested a unit to respond to their location to provide prisoner transportation. less than two minutes later, the cvr officers asked for an expedited response on prisoner transport and for an additional unit to assist them as the person in custody became increasingly agitated, yelling profanities at the officer and refusing to go into the unmarked department vehicle. uniform patrol officers assigned to bayview station started the response to fairfax avenue and catalina street while the cvr officers were standing by. a man unrelated to the warrant arrest confronted the officers. the man later identified as mr. ryan bluford, screamed, quote, what the fuck are y'all doing? what the fuck are y'all doing in my

neighborhood? end quote. cvr officer one advised mr. bluford that the individual in handcuffs had an active warrant. mr. bluford screamed, quote, he ain't got no warrant and ain't no fucking police n-word. ain't no fucking police bitch ass n-word, end quote. mr. bluford demanded multiple times for the officers to uncuff the person in custody. mr. bluford then yelled, quote, on my mama soul uncuff him right now, before i kill one of you, uncuff him right now, end quote. the cvr officers radioed for a status update from the responding units . dispatch advised that they were unable to hear the cvr officers transmission due to the noise in the background. the cvr officers then notified dispatch that a group of people had formed at their location in dispatch advised that five bayview units were en route to assist. mr. bluford continued on, adamant the person in

custody was not going with the police. mr. bluford shouted, quote, get the fuck out my hood. he ain't going nowhere. what the fuck you mean n-word? he ain't going nowhere. end quote. mr. bluford yelled a verbal threat, saying, quote, y'all really want to start with me? i'm not worried about the women you want to start with me? n-word i'll fuck you up out here. n-word bitch ass, n-word, uncuffed, that n-word, right now. n-word uncuff him, end quote. mr. bluford took a few steps back from the officers, lifted his sweatshirt and reached toward his waistband with his right hand. mr. bluford wrapped his right hand around the grip of a light colored handgun and said, quote, we going to go up, end quote. mr. bluford turned toward the officers and shouted, quote, we going up, let them roll up here, n-word, uncuff him right now, end quote. mr. bluford looked in the direction of the

officers, held his grip on the handgun and continued to yell at the officers to uncuff the person in custody. the officers yelled, quote, hey, end quote. end quote. he has a gun, end quote. to alert others in the immediate area that mr. bluford had a handgun. the cvr officers called a code 33 and 1025 to fairfax avenue and catalina street for a person with a gun. the person in custody told mr. bluford, quote, hey, unk, be cool, be cool, unk unk, be cool, end quote. the cvr officers described the suspect as an older black male wearing a black beanie gray jacket and blue jeans. they advised the armed subject was walking on foot towards fairfax avenue. the person in custody also called to the bystander, saying, quote, hey sis, back up, sis, back up. come here, sis, back up, end quote. uniform patrol officers, one and two arrive at the

intersection of fairfax avenue and catalina street in a marked patrol vehicle. mr. bluford was in the middle of the intersection. the cvr officers confirmed over the radio. that's a subject in front of the patrol vehicle was a person armed with a handgun. both uniformed officers got out of their marked patrol vehicle. patrol officer one deploy his department issued patrol rifle and patrol officer. two drew his department issued handgun patrol officers, one and two ordered mr. bluford to put his hands up while giving numerous warnings by failing to comply with these commands could lead to lethal force. the cvr officers ordered the bystanders to move away from mr. bluford, saying, quote, hey, you need to get away. come on, please, let's go. he's got a gun. let's go, end quote. the person in custody yelled, quote, hey, hey, stop touching my sister, bitch. end quote. the cvr officers advised

the person in custody. they did not want the bystander to get hit as patrol officers were already interacting with mr. bluford, despite attempts to move the bystander, they refused and demanded not to be touched and continued to record the event on their cell phone as the cvr officers went to move the person in custody, they yelled, quote, hey, don't touch me, bitch. i don't give a fuck, bitch. you're the one that got me arrested, bitch. end quote. patrol officers continued to give commands to mr. bluford, patrol officer. one can be heard saying, quote, get your hands up. hands up or i'll shoot. hands up or i'll shoot you in the head. end quote. patrol officer two can be heard saying, quote, get your hands up right now. get your hands out of your pants right now. get your fucking hands up. end quote. and quote. put your fucking hands up or i'll shoot you. end quote. patrol officer one also broadcasted over the radio.

quote one at gunpoint, not responding to commands, end quote. patrol officer three arrived on scene and ran to assist patrol officer two patrol officer two pled with mr. bluford to put his hands up, saying, quote, put your hands up, please, please put your hands up. please, please put your hands up. please please put your hands up. end quote. patrol officer two also gave commands for bystanders to move away from the street for a period of one minute and seven seconds. a patrol officer one ordered mr. bluford 20 times to put his hands up and or get down. simultaneously patrol officer two ordered mr. bluford 27 times to put his hands up and or get down on the ground. mr. bluford with his right hand still at his waistband, walked from the middle of the intersection towards the southeast corner of fairfax avenue and catalina street. mr. bluford continued to

shout at the officers while keeping his right hand gripped on the handgun at approximately 2:53 p.m, mr. bluford raised his left hand to display the middle finger towards off patrol officers one and two seconds later, mr. bluford looked towards the patrol officers and with his right hand, removed the handgun from his waistband and held it at his side. mr. bluford then immediately raised his right arm into an extended position and pointed the handgun towards the officers and the officer involved. shooting occurred with patrol officer one firing his department issued patrol rifle and patrol officer two firing his department issued handgun. the officer involved shooting took place one minute and 39 seconds after the cvr officers first saw mr. blue, first handgun at the waistband. and approximately one minute and four seconds after patrol officers one and two arrived on scene, the cvr officers advised

over the radio, quote, shots fired by police, end quote. within 10s dispatch call for the san francisco fire department to respond to the scene. patrol officers also advised dispatch of shots fired and quote, catalina and fairfax, one down, end quote. cvr officer one called a second 1025 before his transmission was cut short. patrol officers, one, two and three advanced towards mr. bluford to render aid and secure mr. bluford handgun patrol officer four observed bystanders shouting and approaching mr. bluford multiple officers gave commands for the bystanders to back away from mr. bluford and an unidentified person was heard yelling, quote, take the gun, end quote. patrol officer three moved towards mr. bluford and continued ordering the bystanders to back away from mr. bluford, patrol officer four moved towards mr. bluford, patrol officer for use his foot

to slide the unsecured handgun away from mr. bluford. patrol officer four picked up mr. bluford handgun and later secured it in a marked patrol vehicle within 49 seconds of the eyes, officers approached mr. bluford, assessed him for injuries and initiated cpr. the cvr officers advised over the radio they still had a person in custody that needed to be transported from the scene immediately. the suspect in custody appeared to be agitated. your profanities and at one point showed one of the cvr officers, quote, my fucking arm, bitch, end quote. the group continued to increase in size, yelling profanities at other bystanders, moved closer to mr. bluford and the officers, rendering aid. the group also refused to leave as officers attempted to establish and secure the crime scene. a third, 1025 call was requested over the radio by additional arriving units stating that more officers

were needed before the transmission was cut off. officers continue cpr until relieved by the san francisco fire department. the san francisco fire department arrived on scene within five minutes and 37 seconds of being dispatched to fairfax avenue and catalina street. mr. bluford was transported by the san francisco fire department to zuckerberg. san francisco general hospital, where he was later pronounced deceased. the person in custody from cvr initial enforcement action was later booked for their warrant at san francisco county jail. suspect the suspect's name is mr. ryan bluford. his date of birth is october 15th, 1981. evidence crime scene investigators from the san francisco police department. forensic services division responded and collected physical evidence from the scene , including, but not limited to the following. a loaded ordnance high cap 45 caliber handgun with

one round in the chamber and one loaded ten round magazine, 540 caliber fired cartridge casings and 4223 caliber fired cartridge casings. video footage and photographs. officers on scene were wearing department issued body worn cameras, which were activated and recorded the events as they unfolded. any other relevant video footage or photographs can be provided to the san francisco district attorney's independent investigations bureau using the following phone number. 61286524411. witnesses any witnesses are encouraged to contact the san francisco district attorney's independent investigations bureau. at (628)!a652-4411. in volved members. the sfpd officers who discharge their firearms in this

incident are officer marco radin , number 1945, a patrol officer assigned to bayview station officer peter van zandt. number four, 142, a patrol officer assigned to bayview station training officer, one who discharged their department, issued rifle completed crisis intervention training in 2021. officer two who discharged their department, issued handgun, completed crisis intervention training in 2018. officer who are cit trained have completed a 40 hour california peace officer standards and training or post certified course, which prepares them to respond to persons in crisis incidents. and as a team formulate a plan, establish rapport and use de-escalation tactics, including tactical repositioning and creating time and distance whenever possible to safely resolve incidents.

today's presentation is provided in a multimedia format in an effort to provide a transparent and comprehensive perspective of this incident. the sfpd will provide dispatch audio from involved officers. body worn camera footage, open source, witness videos, crime scene investigation photos, maps and related visual aids. our presentation today consists of relevant, known video and audio at this time, but it is not intended to provide all photos, videos or testimonial information related to this investigation. i will now provide a presentation of this incident using these multimedia sources at select points to increase the clarity for viewers . certain videos have been enhanced to allow for a better understanding of this incident. please note that this presentation, the enhanced videos and the unedited videos will all be available on the sfpd website immediately following this townhall event.

sfpd policies can also be located on the sfpd website at prior to the beginning of each segment, i will provide a brief description to orient the viewer to the time, place and location of the content about to be shown. you're about to see relevant video footage and learn about other evidence related to this case so you can have a better understanding of what occurred based upon what we know right now, we are still in the very early stages of an administrative investigation that can take months to complete . and our understanding of the incident may change as additional evidence is collected and reviewed. we do not draw any conclusion as to whether the officers acted consistent with our policies and the law until all the facts are known and the investigation is complete, a word of caution. the images and information you're about to see in here may be disturbing when a police officer uses force to arrest a suspect or defend

against attack. the images are graphic and may be difficult to watch in addition, there may be strong language used by those in the video. viewer discretion is advised, especially for young children and sensitive viewers. we encourage those in need of help to contact the san francisco department of public health crisis line. at (415)!a970-3800. the independent investigations bureau or iib, is an independent unit within the san francisco district attorney's office, which investigates and reviews all officer involved shootings. iib may be reached by email at sfpd , hyphen iib at sf gov .org or telephone. at (628)!a652-4411. r

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or or. or or. or or. or or. or or. we will now provide a geographic map of fairfax avenue and catalina street, as well as enhanced graphics to display the general area of the incident. the map will show a google satellite perspective as well as a google street view of the incident location. please note the graphics and map are approximations and not shown to scale.

you're about to hear a recording of the radio transmissions as they were broadcast by officers at the scene, as well as responding officers. this audio was provided by san francisco's department of emergency management. in. 2917 i'm sorry. five 2010. i. 17 10,000. block 1000. block i'm sorry. five ocean 20 i got a 917 and which

block i, i just put that fairfax and catalina. fairfax, catalina ten point and you know can we get a. 45 ocean 2010. for over 24 five ocean 20 is requesting a 407 at fairfax and catalina and again any available baby unit for 407 for five ocean 20 fairfax and catalina. bravo 17 we just have seven rf. again over a three and a45 ocean 17 requesting a 407 fairfax and catalina. currently another unit

please five ocean 17 requesting another unit at fairfax and catalina. any available baby units back. 7770 118, charlie 70 and charlie 7110 four charlie 103 to 12 adam, can you please back them. i take orders to charlie 12 adam. 7010 for fairfax and catalina. charlie one, two, 313 charlie johnson. seven. charlie and charlie. please take a wagon out for them . yeah yeah. 15 charlie. sam.

charlie i'm sorry. which unit was that for the 407. charlie 13. charlie that was breaking from the 15 out of really head that company logging so far. i'll put you on five ocean 21. 17. no on no, i'm sorry. five ocean 17 there's a lot of background noise ten i okay we have a crowd performance. can we please. yes i know for you got a crowd for me? you got multiple units on the way there. you've got the 70, 71, 12, adam and 13 charlie and 13 adam. 11 out of room, locked up. charlie 11. adam a few blocks out. ten four was exciting, right now,

hopefully we live right now. 1025 catalina i got 1025, 25, 97, 2011 out of ten for and i'm doing great. i got. a little patio and fairfax walk right there and right there was a great fan. 221 is going to be a black danny gray jacket, blue jeans walking up towards fairfax . units clear the air please put yourselves on the run. code 33 883845 1017 as a 1025. charlie one, two, three. code three authorized charlie 103 advising code three the.

five ocean 17 you got a 1013 he's just running in the middle of the gun. we got one at gunpoint. stand down. four units have one at gunpoint. yes, ma'am. john five on police shots fired. shots fired by. so fired. shots fired by pd. 1025 for catalina and fairfax. one down, one down, one down at catalina and fairfax, one down at catalina and fairfax. charlie one, two, three, 98. charlie 103 98. ocean 1298507102 ten four. you have a company here. we need

to put them in on four and get them out of here. we need a unit 45 three need a unit for the custody. 711 out of medics no. three right now. medics on the way. medic 98, code. three yeah. i was just wanting to be more unit for crowd control. i need more units for cal bro. five, six, eight, 1998. five ocean 1698 rendering eight rendering a. power 1690 97 five

ocean 16 five ocean 1997 five charlie two. same traffic 522 is 9710 four cpr is progress. we need a code three units up. catalina up catalina cpr in progress. need code three units up. catalina. 30, boy 13 on the floor. four eight priority is fairfax and catalina. and cpr is being rendered. cpr in progress. ten four, easy. i don't know if. all right, phil getting on 408. they nine units to respond to

units leave an opening for the hallway. to responding you to leave. opening or 408. no, we need to kill 25. we need more officers. we need more officers , more officers to fairfax and catalina. cpr still in progress. we got a good crowd out here. what do you see? the four waiting to come up. catalina is the only way they're going to get here. cpr in progress. we will now show body worn camera footage. i will introduce each each video prior to playing it. body worn camera footage was captured from department issued body worn cameras, worn by members at the time of the event. portions of these videos have been blurred due to the display of confidential law enforcement database images and graphic content. some of the audio has also been redacted due to on 30s of body worn camera footage

does not contain audio. the camera has a buffering system that captures 30s of video footage prior to the officer's activation. when activated by the officer. the camera records both audio and video. we are now going to play body worn camera footage from one of the first officers from cvr, tx. this officer was on scene with a person who had an outstanding warrant while waiting for a marked patrol vehicle to transport the person with the warrant. a group began to form around the cvr officers, a male later identified as mr. bluford , approached the cvr officers who were standing by the person in custody. this video will be played in real time. the image of the person with the warrant has been blurred. or or or or.

or or. or or. or or. or or. or or. so you guys. so, man, how are you. what's your. what's your name? bud all right. yeah what's brown. you get a warrant, i think buddy. yeah so we're going to handle that. all right , cool. i'm we're going it real quick, and then i'll let you know. all right? can i call somebody? yeah. yeah, i'm going to put you in handcuffs real quick. all right, let's just step on this side, huh? no no, there's a lot of that. i'm going to take him. i can see this. i promise. i'm not going to see

you. take this. call somebody. i'll put you call my other. you you get out my pocket. i forgot her number. i'll get it for you. you got it right? yeah and? yeah cool. well i think you got no one working. confirm it. and that's not what i know. but we can put it back on my. i just not their number. i don't. we're not going to take it. i'm going to put it back. no, this. okay. i'm telling my brother. okay. okay. i'm touching the phone. just. yeah, he just said i don't care. he just said, why are you my phone? are you. hey, brother, calm down, bro. to yeah, okay, calm down. we're not trying to do that. hey, we're calling my sister bear. that's what charlie said. i'm going to talk to you. no, i know. i got a warrant out and i'm going to 917 to get him. for what? yeah. here here. 529,

nine, 17 just down the block, 1000 block back. i'm sorry. 520 i got a 917 and which one here? i'm just going to just put it out fairfax and catalina. i. get your idea. honey, can we get a. seven 25? yeah hold on. thanks. for never. i ain't got no warrant when i got a worn out, bro. charlie, check it right now. here we go. i don't know. oh, i'm just saying. hell is she . oh, my god. hey. it's good. no

i'm. hold on, hold on. grab his shit. what are you talking about ? all right, go ahead. search me. and you're supposed to be up there. look at the fuck you mean . the fuck you mean? hey, i'm good. good. chill, chill, chill . all at on charges. i don't know what the fuck my hand. like my baby just chill out. give me the fuck word. you good? better or i'm waiting. i'm getting to a fucking actual court nigger. get getting that bitch. he ain't get it for real. good. i'm getting that bitch, man. she on my fucking wrist. how? you know, i do something about it, bitch. i

fucking mean, i. you know, i get the fuck, bitch. how do you know my name out on my name. i can't even hear. fuck you. hey brother kudo, chill. he's grabbing on him like that, man. y'all already got him in handcuffs. you know they can't do that. no, man. come on, now, bro. you don't even call. don't call my pastor. nothing nigga. you heard what happened, nigga. well, like i said, i'm going back to the nine. how are you? no. i'm in here. they walked on here, and that was just chilling. hey, and baby, i ain't got my phone. i don't got my phone, so it's good . you hear me. yeah. just don't make me worse. the fucking name, bro. when the trolls, man, they

just. nah, nah. they thought, well, how am i nothing else to do? we don't do that. and we were real. yeah you go to church, they go to church, they go, hey, i just got out last night. hey, listen, you better listen. that life. yeah hey, sis, i just gave him my. my, my other phone. 13. charlie johnson. all right, all right. call me on. i got your phone. okay, bro. yeah. now let me tell her what i think about the shoot. no, not right now. damn, birthday boy. he kind of got. i'm worried. yeah yeah, right. so did y'all search me in? what did you. can you kind of be like you got me fucking and push my fucking left shoulder back? i can pop this shit out of socket. easy burn. so be cool, nigga.

charles charlie having a break from the 15 out of ten, how many people are logging watching so far? i put you on a 520. so what are hundred of the teasers? 200 number 14. 15. all right. got all the other side. two what do they. they come from? they can't . hear it all the way down here . i know my right. this is violating the fourth and fifth amendment. when you send over, you send it over to me. yeah, i . yeah. hey no, i gave in. and for what? you drinking up on any air? i did it. it's not going come on, now. tell him. big breath through to my neighborhood. get a warrant.

we're taking them, all right. they ain't got no war and they no fucking police, nigga ain't no police nigga. come on. come on. it's okay. ain't no fucking police, nigga. i said so the fucking royal that. tell me something, nigga. you need it back up and i need to do what? back up. and y'all got it coming right here. right there. so i'm coming right now. fuck. you mean baby right now. see it coming right now. so my moms know i'll be right now know how y'all. is outside nigga, get the fuck off my hood right. he ain't going nowhere. what you mean he's going away? he already was calling me. he won't start. i'm not worried about the women. you will start me, nigga. we must talk. me nigger. i'm fuck you up out here, bitch ass nigga uncuff that nigga right now. nigga uncomfy for a 38 week. you got.

a week to go. what spawned that ? let him roll up here nigga. i got you right there. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. i'm coming right there. right now. i got. i was two 2232. hey hey, hey. hey going. to hey, he's got a gun. hey, hey. three, three. hey. hey . i he's got me scared. want to

get shot? go ahead. yeah wait, wait, wait. you want to come here? it's fucking bullshit. they go. i do. shit, man. hey, back off. back off. you can put your right there. take them back. the fuck off, lady. get out. yeah he's just. want to go . didn't even really see it. hey you got to move you the fuck out of way. there's a gun right there. okay. try to get in. don't. what the fuck? shots fired. shots fired by the police. come here, man. mere. hey, we need a 1025. oh, no. yo,

man, mini is fucking. hey, i'm going to kick the gun. down hey, back to we are now going to play an enhanced video containing the body worn camera footage. we just viewed of the initial contact between mr. bluford and the cvs, cvs officers on scene. oh, now tell them. big breath. trying to shake to my neighborhood. get a warrant. we're taking them all out. they ain't got no war. and they no fucking police, nigga. ain't no police. yes, nigga. come on. come on. it's okay. ain't no fucking police, nigga. i said so the fucking royal. now tell me something, nigga. you need it back up and i need what y'all got coming right here. you

got me right there on the show up on you right now. fuck you mean. oh baby, right now. give it to me right now. so my momma stole me right now. y'all. what, my nigga? cause is outside. go get the fuck off my hood. my ain't going nowhere. you mean because he ain't going nowhere? nobody was calling me. he was stuck. i'm not worried about the women. you will start cleaning up. we won't start. nigga i'll fuck you up out here, bitch ass nigga. i'd cuff that nigga right now. nigga uncomfy for a 3800. they just trying to get women to go up. on that. let him roll up here nigga unhappy right there. he got. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey. let's stop you right there . now all all right. we are now going to play body worn camera footage from another officer to show a different perspective of the interaction between the cvr officers and mr. bluford. this video will be played in real time. you started 40, dated or 4.2. i'm available to this. you. come on now. tell him, big brother, i don't want you got no one. ain't no fucking police, nigga ain't no police nigga. come on. it's okay. i ain't no fucking police, nigga. i said so the fucking royal. now tell me something, nigga. you need it back up and take it back up and . all right. here. you coming in right now? you don't remember me showing you right now? can't

you? i'm copyright now. i'll send a copy right now. so. i wish somebody would roll up to my nigga. you can't. the fuck. therefore you got to confirm you got my unit, my sister bitch going to and. said, bitch. what the fuck? okay, start. okay. okay, cool. you know what? i got me on arrest, nigga. i cut that nigga right now. for 800 $850. any available machine responding , we going to go up on that. let it roll up here nigga. he's got a gun. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. hey my right now. hey, hey , bro. let's see your hands. 25, 20. oh oh. hey i it. hey, sis,

can you get out of the way? way out of the way. and one more. there right there with the gun. right here. hey come here. come here. you need. hey, you need to get away. you need to get away. come on up, please. let's go. don't touch him. hey come on. let's. go. let's go. come on. come on. you got a gun? scratch me. let's go. you want to get shot? go ahead. come on. don't touch me, bitch. let's go. wait wait. we're trying to protect you. when i got me on this. what probably. one, two, three, four, three. all right. one, two, three. everybody go! three on the ground. i'll fuck you doing . hey come on. get back here.

let's go. let's go. go come here, come here, come here. hey, i'm right here. bitch. you got to move me the fuck out of his gun. right there. okay, good. again don't. what the fuck got shots fired. shots fired by police. come here, man. i'm here . right here. hey, we need a 1025. out of the way. no, you're is fucking. give me. kill me, bitch. you won. i did this, bitch. i know what the fucking on to where we are. set the fucking bitch. i fuck i got my nigga for. hey, come on you him the whole they get that shit on camera since get that shit on camera tonight. you get that shit off camera here when you

get him out of here. see we need a you need to come up keith for our custody. yeah, baby. here, here, here. we are now going to play body worn camera footage from another cvr officer to show a different perspective of the interaction of the cvr officers and mr. bluford, this video will be played in real time. so you need a backup and now y'all don't be the captain right there . i was to you right now. kill one. i was 17 right now. so my mother. so i'm sorry. i'll be right now. there's a lot of background noise. can you call them up, nigga? i wish everybody . okay, we have to cross over, compete with my sister before you got to come from. you got multiple units on the way there. 70, 71 told over here i'm not

worried about you starting now. hey, stop. fuck me. 1111. you are not a couple. that little right now looking over for 830 815th where's any available mission units respond. we're going to go up. we go on up. let him roll up here, nigga. i got you right now. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. we got someone with a gun right now. can we get that? hey, 1025 right now. 1025 be cool. pull up. be cool, bruh. i see your hand. oh, be cool. i got an older bm black bd great. hey, sis, back up. back up here. she goes. catalina and fairfax walking up towards arm my arm right there. him right there with the gun. great hand. hey, lady, back up. come here. come on, sis. get back up

straight jacket, blue jeans walking. hey hey. background. hey i'll take you to my sister, bitch. no i don't want her to get. not good. catch me. come on . here. it's good. fight you want to get shot? go ahead. you need to clear the air. please put your health. all right. hey . fuck. i sorry. one, two, three, four, three. all right. hey, man. funny. one, two, three. writing code three on the right. let's go. hey. responsible for you. hey, come on. hey come over here. hey. nice out here. we got to move. we got. stay over here. we got to move this way. he's just in the middle of street with the gun. we got sports supply. come in down here. hey, i'm right here. hey, you got to move you the fuck out of way. you ain't. there's a gun right there. okay.

try to get in. go with the. shots fired. shots fired. you come here. come here. right here . i we are now going to play an enhanced video containing the body worn camera footage we just viewed of the initial contact between mr. bluford and the cvr. cvr officers on scene. 815 of any available machine units respond. we're going to go back . a hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey. we got someone with a gun right now. can we get that? hey, 1025 right now. 1020 500 we are now going to play the body worn camera footage from patrol. officer one the passenger of the marked patrol vehicle responding to the scene. this officer gave numerous commands for mr. bluford to get his hands up this uniform patrol officer can be seen discharging his department issued rifle as mr. bluford points a handgun at the uniformed patrol. officers this video will be played in real time. catalina and fairfax. in a parking fairfax walk right here . this is where. scott, get your hands up! get your hands up. you

get your hands up. get your hands up right now. hands up, down, down. shoot get your hands up. we're on. shoot get your hands up. rounds dude. charlie 11 had one at gunpoint. not responding to commands. get your hands up, bro. shoot. hands up, bro. shoot get your hands up, or i'll shoot you in the head. put your hands up or i'll shoot you in the head. get up. get your hands them. put your hands. drop your hands up or i'll shoot you in the head. please get over. get out, get down, get down, get down. get down. get your hands up. get down. got got one at gunpoint. put your hands up and get on the ground. put your hands up and get on the ground.

charlie charlie. 11 at him. cut somebody put it out. 90 charlie, 11 at him. shots fired, pete. fairfax, one down, one down, one down. i can't believe it. fairfax one down. i don't even care about. get back, get back, get back up, back up. get a team. set up. get a team. set up here. one on two, four. put him in. all right, get him out of here. whoa! what's that? get him out. all all right, you just heard the question. you. three guys. on the. the company. he

did. do you want. i want. him shooting in. hey, you just shoot . me. cheers. if that gun right now. rendering aid, we are now going to play an enhanced video containing the body worn camera footage. we just viewed from patrol officer. one or or. or or . or or. or or. or or. or or. or

or. or or. or or. or or. or or. we are now going to play the body worn camera footage from patrol. officer two the driver of the marked patrol vehicle responding to the scene. this officer gave numerous commands for mr. bluford to get his hands up. this officer can be seen discharging his department issued handgun. as mr. bluford points his handgun at the uniformed patrol officers. this officer requests an ambulance to the scene and renders aid. this video will be played in real

time. this of this guy, your hands up. get your hands up. get your hands up. get your hands up right now. get your hands up. get your hands out of your pants right now. get your fucking hands up. get your fucking hands up. get your fucking hands up. get your fucking hands up! get him up. get your fucking hands up! get your fucking hands up! put your fucking hands up or i'll shoot you. put your hands up, please. please put your hands up. please please, please. put your hands up. put your hands. please please put your hands up. your hands up, please. please put your hands up. get out of the street. get down! get your fucking hands up! put your hands up. put your hands up.

get. get them back. get back. get your hands up. get your hands up. get your hands up. get your hands up. get your hands up . put your hands up. get on the ground. please. he's still moving. he's still moving. right in. 1025. we're on. number one now. one down, one down. move across. move across. one down and get her back. get her back. i can't walk. watch out. get him out. get out the way. out the

way. we have medics code three, charlie 11 medics, code three. right now i can walk. on. we need more units. what do you want? no, no. the cops are locked up. where's. fuck! did you shoot this man? hey, he's got shoots. anyone? anyone got shears? shears. they need shears. yeah. back up. you say you got a post? no, no. rendering aid. we are now going to play an enhanced video containing the body worn camera footage. we just viewed this enhanced video shows officer four using their foot to move

the handgun away from mr. bluford. or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or. or we are now

going to play the body worn camera footage from patrol officer three who arrived on scene seconds prior to the ois. this footage shows the actions of the officers as they approach mr. bluford to render medical aid and request medical assistance from the san francisco fire department. medics this video will be played in real time. catalina and fairfax. one down, one down, one down. i haven't eaten fairfax. one down, i haven't eaten seven. get back. get back to get back up. back up. back up. back up. back up. back up. back up. back up. back up here. we are now going to play an enhanced video containing the body worn camera footage we just viewed. or. only

one of them. back up. back up, back up, back up, back up. back up here. we are now going to play the body worn camera footage from patrol officer four who arrived on scene seconds prior to the ois patrol. officer four can be seen picking up mr. blue first handgun and securing it. this video will be played in real time. so being set up, get a team. i got. what's that? get out! get him out! hey hey. we

have medics. two, three. assuming we do have. my kid. i got to see what i want out of here. i want my. help look, look . cheers. cheers. cheers. i got no cheers. cheers. yeah. back up . i don't know how to. i'll find my. go go back up to you. get it off, bitch. you go up. we are

now going to play an enhanced video containing the body worn camera footage we just viewed. or or. don't. we are now going to play a witness video located utilizing open source social media. the video was recorded by a witness of the incident. this video was located by investigator on the social media website at twitter. this video will be played in real time.

on. the platform. now you out. for no shooting. shooting. who. oh, hell no. how to go? oh i got my.

we are now going to play an enhanced video of the social media video we just viewed.

we are now going to play in synchronization. the video on twitter and the bar worn camera footage of patrol officer one the passenger the patrol officer who discharged his department issued rifle. these videos will be played in real time. love your hands. drop your hands up. rose shoot you in the head. get out of here. get out! get down. get down. get down. get the deck . get down! get your hands up. get down. running gun. put your hands up and get on the ground. put your hands up and get on the

ground. charlie? charlie. 11 out of. somebody put it out. charlie 11. adam shots fired. one down, one down, one down. i can't believe it. in fairfax, one down. i don't even get back, get back, get back up! back up. get a team. set up. get a team. set up. we are now going to play the synchronized video footage with enhancements to show mr. bluford pointing the handgun at uniformed officers. dead on the ground. put your hands up and get on the ground.

csi photos. we are now going to share photographic evidence taken by the san francisco police department and forensic services division. this photo shows the department issued rifle used by the officer in the incident at. this photo shows the department issued handgun used by the officer in the

incident. this photo shows the handgun possessed by mr. bluford during this incident. this concludes my presentation. i will now introduce the commanding officer of bayview police station, captain david marin. all right. thank you, commander . good afternoon. my name is captain david marin. i'm the commanding officer of bayview police station. i'd like to start by expressing my condolences and sympathy to those directly affected by this incident. i also want to acknowledge the effect that this has had on the neighborhood and broader community addressing their concerns of this officer involved shooting. we'll require

a comprehensive approach that prioritizes the safety of officers and the community while striving to uphold the principles of fairness, trust and respect for all individuals involved. since the day of the incident. i have been communicating with my community leaders, residents and stakeholders to address any concerns. members from my community police advisory board have also been briefed. out of respect for mr. buford's family, grieving community and the officers involved, a baby station along with magic bayview opera house, san francisco recreation and parks, joli rec center, sf, safe care in our community, ambassadors collectively decided to postpone the annual national night out event that was scheduled for august 1st until a later date. the officers of bayview station

will continue to be responsive, passive, empathetic and proactive in their approach towards restoring public trust and confidence. we will continue to work collaboratively with the community to ensure safety and justice for all. as captain of bayview police station, i am committed to fostering an environment of trust, accountability and mutual respect between our officers and the community. i will also continue to encourage and open dialog about our policing practices and community concerns by listening to the community's perspectives and incorporating their feedback. i believe we can work together to provide safety with respect to better serve and protect everyone. lastly i invite folks to attend my station community meetings, which are held on the first tuesday of the month. the next meeting will be held on august 8th. i can also be reached at

(415)!a671-2300 for any of your questions, comments and concerns . thank you. at this point, i'd like to welcome back chief scott . thank you, captain marin and acting commander. and for your presentations and now we will open it up for questions or public comment. the public comment portion of this town hall meeting will now begin. the length of time for public comment will be one hour to call into the meeting. please call. 14156550001. again, the number to call into the meeting. is

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time, i ask that you invite the first caller to speak. yes, the . hello hello. okay. thank you. i just want to say that the officers acted with remarkable courage and restraint in the face of imminent danger. despite repeated attempts to de-escalate the situation verbally. the individual continued to pose to serve a threat to the officers and bystanders feared for their lives and the safety of the community. the officers responded decisively by discharging their weapons in an effort to neutralize the imminent threat posed by the armed individual. the officer's actions were justified and aligned with their training. the individual's possession of a loaded firearm and their refusal to comply with command placed the officers and others at an immediate risk of harm in line

with established protocols. the officers utilized lethal force as a last resort to protect themselves and the public from potential harm. it is worth noting that their actions were consistent with the legal and ethical standards governing the use of force by law enforcement officers. i would like to extend my sincere appreciation to the officers involved in this incident. their dedication, professionalism and courage in the face of adversity served as a testament to the high standards upheld by sfpd in situations such as this. the safety of officers and the general public is paramount. the officers involved in this incident demonstrated exceptional judgment and adherence to established protocols. their actions serves as a reminder of the challenges faced by law enforcement officers daily and underscore the importance of ongoing training and support. thank you, sfpd and the officers who were involved in this incident. thank

you. caller for your comments. next caller. here with us. yeah, let's get out. we can hear you. hello you can hear you. hello? we can hear you. caller go ahead with your comment. okay my comment is i just i'm disappointed when i heard some of the language being used by the police in that video. i related to that person and full disclosure that when for that

man who was killed is my stepdaughter. so that's my family that got killed. so all i'm saying is i didn't see any indication of anybody trying to de-escalate anything. i didn't see any indicator from that cop that his intent when he got out of that car with that gun was to shoot him. when you say to somebody, i'm going to shoot you in the head, i'm going to shoot you in the head. you want to kill him? so that's all i'll say. that's what i want to say. so they can talk all the stuff they want. but. but this did not need to happen. those kids did not need to lose their father. they did not. and what happened to this program where you guys were supposed to be sending other people out when people had mental illness? what happened to that? because that was more appropriate in that particular moment than pulling out a gun and killing a man. thank you for

your comment. thank you for your comment. caller and we really sorry for your loss. next caller . and this is gloria barry from district ten. first, i want to say i think it's pretty sick that first caller took so much joy in tragedy. and then i want to go ahead and ask the following question for the two officers that were in plain clothes in the beginning of the scenario, what is the length of their time on the. hill? is this a town hall or a commission meeting? caller we don't disclose in these settings the personnel records of uninvolved officers. the officers that are

the that fire, their weapons are what is disclosed publicly in these in these town halls. okay. then my next question is the first officer, the female white plainclothes officer, when the victim was agitated and irate and yelling and screaming and whatnot. why didn't she make any attempt to console him or to talk with him and see what's going on with him? why did she ignore him and walk away? i'll just refer you. let me say that everything that was in this presentation will be online. i would encourage you to look at the transcripts from commander m , look at the body worn camera video to see what the officer said and did that might be

helpful. to answer your question . okay. i don't think so. several of these videos and then my other my other comment really is that with the officer that was yelling to put the gun down or put your effing hand down and that i'll shoot you, i'll shoot you. that method is not any type of de-escalation. type method is made it worse. and i believe and we need to get you guys more trained. how? thank you for your comment. thank you for your comment. caller i would invite you, though, to again online review our our department use of force policy is department of general order 5.01 in particular on page five, section c of section 5.010.04, specifically

explains what de-escalation is. there's language in there about exigent circumstances, and that might be helpful. also to provide some clarity to our policies and our training. thank you. caller next caller, please . hi. i'm just calling in. hi, i'm just calling in. first of all, it's a tragedy. every time something like this happens, it's always a tragedy. any loss of human life is always a tragedy. however, i would also like to just say thank you to the sfpd that video, that scene was so full of tension and chaos and, um, i don't know how you do it. and i don't know where to for, you know, where the line of responsibility in terms of de-escalation, how how much do you have to withstand and how much do you need to put your

life in danger before it is enough? there's seems to be only you have to be responsible for every piece of this pie. and that's not how any relationship works. and when a gun is being pointed at, you, i imagine that that makes you feel for your life. just like when you point a gun at someone they fear for their life. it it cannot go only one way. so i just want to say thank you, you guys, you men, women. you are so brave. you are incredibly trained. you are one of the most progressive police forces in the country. and please know that the responsibility there are those of us who don't see everything being your responsibility. all the time. there has to come a point where other people take responsibility for the consequences of their own behavior. that's all i want to say. thank you, sfpd. thank you.

caller for your comments. next caller. go ahead, caller oh, okay. good afternoon. my name is cheryl thornton and i'm a district ten resident. what i what was the question i have is why was the scene when they arrested and put the suspect in handcuffs so out of control? and why wasn't that person removed? why was it allowed for this situation to continue to escalate with all those, i guess , people who were standing by in the public? actually, it looks like somebody else could have actually even been injured, luckily, that they weren't. so i'm just wondering about the training around that. i know that this is a tough job and that was a tough situation, but it just appears that there should have been more control at that scene than there was in

initially. thank you. thank you, caller, for your comments. and please know that all aspects of this investigation get reviewed for training and policy and following protocols. but i would invite you again, like i told the other callers to review the videos. i know seeing this for the first time, sometimes when you review them. additionally, i think some of your questions might be answered by a second or review or third review in terms of how that unfolded. and also, i invite you to look at the transcripts in terms of what commander m read in terms of the chronology of how this occurred. you know, we aren't here to make a judgment on any of this today. we're here to present the information and we do encourage everybody that has questions that can be answered by a second look, a third look at the videos and the transcripts that we will have online as soon as this is

over. that might be helpful to answer some of your questions. thank you. caller next caller, please go ahead. caller hi. i just wanted to say this was a tragic situation. it was hard to watch and i'm sure much harder to experience always. i agree with prior callers, always tragic when there's a loss of life. but i also want to echo the appreciation for sfpd. it is unbelievable what you put yourself through and how you lay yourselves on the line for us over and over and over again. and thank you for looking out for us and for trying to keep the peace and trying to keep us safe despite a lot of pushback and opposition. so thank you so much. bye bye. thank you, caller, for your comments. at

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you must mute the broadcast if you are watching in order for your public comment to be heard. clearly again, if you are watching the broadcast online, please mute the broadcast or turn down the volume to prevent audio feedback so your comment can be heard clearly. next caller. go ahead, caller. we can hear you. rosalyn butler and i actually work for the san francisco police department. i was leery in watching this video because i'm afraid of guns and i work for the police department. i'm not a sworn officer, but i see officers in uniform and guns every day. a lady mentioned the disrespect of the officer, the disrespect and the language from the young people in those

videos. as a black woman, it breaks my heart to hear these youths talk to these people like this. there are people first. there are human beings second, and they're law enforcement and they are putting their lives on the line to protect the community. no officer wakes up every day and say they want to shoot someone. the gentleman that was arrested in handcuffs, i don't know the details of that, but there was a reason that situation happened. and those youth that were there, they were egging on and escalating that situation. i in my heart believe, had those things not happen, the young man that was shot that probably would not have gotten to that point because his anger was seeing that young man in handcuffs and he felt he had to

take that on for himself. like he said, let him go. this is my hood. we're not going anywhere. you're all cops aren't racist and all cops are bad cop. and you guys have to understand that they have families, they have wives, they have children. we need the police. whether people want to accept it or not. and you cannot label every cop as being a bad cop. we know that his call. ma'am, thank you for calling. thank you very much for your comments. caller next caller, please go ahead. caller we can hear okay. hello, i'm very sad about how this turned out, but i want to thank the officers for their work, their dedication under these very

difficult circumstances. they were professional. they did their job. i want to echo what i just heard the language of the people, the bystanders who were there. is it possible that the police department could work with the community on deescalate from the community, police effective so that the community doesn't call the police officers by using disrespectful language? i heard the word the b word and the n-word so many times, and i never heard that from the police officer at all. i also wonder, is, are there any repercussions for bystanders who don't respond to officers commands and put the officers in jeopardy when there's an active shooter, when there's a gun there and the officers ask the people to move back, move away, and the people don't, that puts the officers in danger because they're trying to move people. is there are there

any repercussions for people who don't follow these commands, commands under these circumstances? and again, i want to thank the officers for their their hard work. thank you. caller for your comments. and to your question, are there potentially worse, um, violations of section 148 of the penal code and that and we are looking into that. that's about as much as i can say right now. but yes, there are consequences for interfering in official police investigations. there are consequences. it is against the law and it is strongly discouraged, particularly in volatile and dangerous situations where people's lives are at stake. thank you. caller for your question. next call. go ahead. call are you there? go

ahead. hello go ahead. we can hear you. tammy we can hear you . caller so i'm i'm the cousin of the san francisco police department shot and killed. uh, ryan bluford and the main thing i have to say about that is why did the narcotics unit stop him along the way of his pathway, where he was going to? he didn't have nothing to do with the whole situation that was going on. thank you, caller, for your question. it's not against the law to walk in public spaces. it's not against the law to yell profanities. when you start threatening to kill a police officer and when you display a

handgun and then point a handgun that is against the law. so if you go back, like i have told the other callers, please go back and look at the videos. you know, whether that conduct is likable or not to the to the general public. what we have to look at is whether it's against the law and it's not against the law to walk across the street and ask questions or yell profanities or whatever. however threats to kill people, to kill police officers gripping a handgun after you make that threat, pointing a handgun at a police officer is against the law. and it's a life threatening situation. so, please, i invite you to go back and look at the videos and i think some of your questions you can probably answer from that. next caller, please. go ahead. caller. we can do. hi. i also had a question i

would like to know. go ahead, caller. i would like to know, is this standard protocol for you guys to run up on you just to see if they have a warrant without confirming it? why didn't you guys get a black and white to confirm that that guy had a warm before coming into a community and just arresting him like that, causing the mayhem? because that was the cause of it . it looked like you guys are just whisking him away and kidnaping him. thank you for your question. caller i believe if you go back and look at the transcripts, it is explained it was explained by acting commander exactly what the officers knew before they contacted the gentleman with the warrant. and i invite you to go back and look at that transcript, but you may have misheard or misread it, but or misheard it. but it's online,

and i invite you to go back and look at it. next caller. go ahead, caller hi. can you hear me? we can call her. go ahead. hi um, offer a police chief, scott, i just wanted to call in and say thank you for how your officers handled that. very difficult situation. a lot of people think that they know what should or would have could have happened and that particular situation and you guys did everything that a reasonable officer would have done in that situation with someone who had a weapon that posed a threat to the safety of the officers and everybody that lived in that area. it's very disappointing to hear comments from people who act like this person should have

been allowed to just continue to run around with a weapon. so i just wanted to let you guys know that keep doing what you're doing and don't be discouraged and thank you for keeping everybody else safe, because he shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place. thank you for your comments. caller. at this time, i'd like to remind callers that each public comment caller will have two minutes to speak and we'll be limited to one phone call if you wish to join the queue for public comment, please listen carefully. following instructions at this time, we take the next caller. go ahead, caller, can you hear me? we can hear you. that's me.

all right. right on. so my dad's a firefighter and he actually puts his life on the line to save people. i'm just wondering why police are the only ones that are never expected to put their lives on the line. you know what i mean? like why? why are they always the ones to shoot first? that's. that's my main question. why are the police always the ones to shoot and murder first? why do they never expect to put their lives on the line for us? you know what i mean? why are they never expected to put their lives actually on the line for us? and i also want to say thank you to all those people saying thank you to the police. you can go fuck yourself and fuck the police. all you have everything coming to you straight up. fuck the police. thank you. caller next caller. go ahead. caller.

you want to say thank you for an outstanding outstanding job to the police. you guys are always there for us and you guys do a sensational job in this case was a class act and a particularly well done job. so thank you so much. and to people that need to insult the police, i think you should reevaluate your own life . stock. thank you. caller. at this time, we have no callers in the queue. and.

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caller. we can hear you. hello hello. my name is lisa. i'm concerned. citizen and i am calling in to just make a comment. i don't really think you're actually taking questions, but what i witnessed with the dolores hill bomb events was an overuse of force with over 100 people being detained. this seems like an overuse of force yet again. and i'm wondering if you all actually know where the line is in really trying to preserve human life. and i'm wondering if the frenetic kind of way that the police responded, how we can get community partners to get into deescalate because you guys don't know how to do it, to really preserve human life and

to alleviate incidents of trauma to those that are involved, to family members and to the greater society in the city that we're in. really need you guys to start reflecting upon how to deescalate. and preserve life. thank you. thank you. comments next caller. go ahead, caller. we can hear you. i just want to say, just listening to that last comment there, how divisive rhetoric is this person speaking? i mean, outrageous to say that the police had to further de-escalate the situation. i don't know what video you watch, lady, but the person clearly pointed a weapon at these officers who defend

themselves, defended the community. i just want to say, speedy everyone involved, really, it's a sad situation all around. sfpd officers, thank you for what you did and putting yourself out there, taking two guns off the streets. that's a great thing for that community. i was disgusted by the way that those kids were acting at the start of the video when the individual was being arrested for the warrant, the language that was thrown to these officers. and this woman who was just talking right now, i mean, clearly, you know for a fact that she would never be able to walk a day in any one of those officers shoes. and the city is better off without people like her. so on behalf of all regulation systems, lady, you can get up and leave with your divisive tribalism rhetoric. this is not how a community heals whatsoever. so just want to say thank you to the officers for, you know, putting

themselves out there like that. it's a tough situation. i hope that community can heal from this and whatnot. but that lady is totally out of line and not in line with the majority of everyday san franciscans. thank you. thank you for your comments . caller. at this time, we have no callers in the queue and we will conclude this town hall meeting in three minutes. to call into the meeting. please call. 14156550001.

next caller. go ahead. caller hi . i also wanted to reiterate on the last guy, i wanted to know how come the cops don't risked their lives like firefighter? it was a question. i just wanted to see if there's an answer. that was it. thank you, caller, for your comments. at this time, we have no callers in the queue and we will conclude this town hall meeting in three minutes.

i'd like to thank everybody who tuned in to view this town hall , the san francisco police department is about transparency , as i said, and at the beginning, this is not about making a judgment in terms of this investigation, but this is about putting the facts out as we know them at this point in the investigation. thank you, callers, for calling in. and please stay safe and have have a very safe weekend.

bayview. >> a lot discussion how residents in san francisco are displaced how businesses are displaced and there's not as much discussion how many nonprofits are displaced i think a general concern in the arts community is the testimony loss of performance spaces and venues no renderings for establishes when our lease is up you have to deal with what the market bears in terms of of rent. >> nonprofits can't afford to operate here. >> my name is bill henry the executive director of aids passage l lp provides services

for people with hispanics and aids and 9 advertising that fight for the clients in housing insurance and migration in the last two years we negotiated a lease that saw 0 rent more than doubled. >> my name is ross the executive directors of current pulls for the last 10 years at 9 and mission we were known for the projection of sfwrath with taking art and moving both a experiment art our lease expired our rent went from 5 thousand dollars to $10,000 a most. >> and chad of the arts project pursue. >> the evolution of the orientation the focus on art education between children and patrol officer artist we offer a full range of rhythms and dance

and theatre music theatre about in the last few years it is more and more difficult to find space for the program that we run. >> i'm the nonprofit manager for the mayor's office of economic workforce development one of the reasons why the mayor has invested in nonprofit displacement is because of the challenge and because nonprofits often commute technical assistance to understand the negotiate for a commercial lease. >> snooechlz is rob the executive director and co-founder of at the crossroads we want to reach the disconnected young people not streets of san francisco for young adults are kicked out of the services our building was sold no 2015 they let us know they'll not renew our lease

the last year's the city with the nonprofit displacement litigation program held over 75 nonprofits financial sanction and technical assistance. >> fortunate the city hesitate set aside funds for businesses facing increased rent we believable to get some relief in the form of a grant that helped us to cover the increase in rent our rent had been around $40,000 a year now $87,000 taylor's dollars a year we got a grant that covered 22 thousands of that but and came to the minnesota street project in two people that development in the better streets plan project they saved us space for a nonprofit organization national anthem and turned out the northern

california fund they accepted us into the real estate program to see if we could withstand the stress and after the program was in full swinging skinning they brought up the litigation fund and the grants were made we applied for that we received a one thousand dollars granted and that grant allowed us to move in to the space to finish the space as we needed it to furniture is for classes the building opened on schedule on march 18, 2016 and by july we were teaching classed here. >> which we found out we were going to have to leave it was overwhelm didn't know anything about commercial real estate we suggested to a bunch of people to look at the nonprofits displacement mitigation program you have access to commercial

real estate either city owned or city leased and a city lease space become available there is a $946,000 grant that is provided through the mayor's office of economic workforce development and that's going to go towards boulder the space covers a little bit less than half the cost it is critical. >> the purpose of the organization trust to stabilize the arts in san francisco working with local agency i go like the northern california platoon fund that helped to establish documents of our long track record of stvent and working to find the right partner with the organization of our size and budget the opportunity with the purchase of property we're sitting in the former disposal house theatre that expired 5 to 10 years ago we get to operate under the old

lease and not receive a rent increase for the next 5 to 7 years we'll renting $10,000 square feet for the next 5 to seven years we pay off the balance of the purpose of this and the cost of the renovation. >> the loophole will that is unfortunate fortunate we have buy out a reserve our organization not reduce the services found a way to send some of the reserves to be able to continue the serves we know our clients need them we were able to get relief when was needed the most as we were fortunate to arrive that he location at the time, we did in that regard the city has been - we've had tremendous support from the mayor's office of economic workforce development and apg and helped to roommate

the facade of the building and complete the renovation inside of the building without the sport support. >> our lease is for 5 years with a 5 year onyx by the city has an 86 year lease that made that clear as long as we're doing the work we've been we should be able to stay there for decades and decades. >> the single most important thing we know that is that meaningful. >> it has been here 5 months and even better than that we could image. >> with the economic development have announced an initiative if ours is a nonprofit or know of a nonprofit looking for more resources they can go to the office of economic workforce development oewd.com

slashing nonprofit and found out about the mayors nonprofit mitigation program and the sustainability initiative and find their information through technical assistance as much as how to get started with more fundraising or the real estate assistance and they can find my contact and reach out to me through the circles of the city >> he is a real leader that listens and knows how to bring people together. brought this department together like never before. i am so excited to be swearing

in the next chief of the san francisco fire department, ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome, jeanine nicholson. (applause). >> i grew up total tomboy, athlete. i loved a good crisis, a good challenge. i grew up across the street from the fire station. my dad used to take me there to vote. i never saw any female firefighters because there weren't any in the 1970s. i didn't know i could be a fire fighter. when i moved to san francisco in 1990, some things opened up. i saw women doing things they

hadn't been doing when i was growing up. one thing was firefighting. a woman recruited me at the gay-pride parade in 1991. it was a perfect fit. i liked using my brain, body, working as a team, figuring things out, troubleshooting and coming up with different ways to solve a problem. in terms of coming in after another female chief, i don't think anybody says that about men. you are coming in after another man, chief, what is that like. i understand why it is asked. it is unusual to have a woman in this position. i think san francisco is a trailblazer in that way in terms of showing the world what can happen and what other people who may not look like what you think the fire chief should look like how they can be successful. be asked me about being the

first lbgq i have an understands because there are little queer kids that see me. i worked my way up. i came in january of 1994. i built relationships over the years, and i spent 24 years in the field, as we call it. working out of firehouses. the fire department is a family. we live together, eat together, sleep in the same dorm together, go to crazy calls together, dangerous calls and we have to look out for one another. when i was burned in a fire years ago and i felt responsible, i felt awful. i didn't want to talk to any of my civilian friends. they couldn't understand what i was going through. the firefighters knew, they understood. they had been there. it is a different relationship.

we have to rely on one another. in terms of me being the chief of the department, i am really trying to maintain an open relationship with all of our members in the field so myself and my deputy chiefs, one of the priorities i had was for each of us to go around to different fire stations to make sure we hit all within the first three or four months to start a conversation. that hasn't been there for a while. part of the reason that i am getting along well with the field now is because i was there. i worked there. people know me and because i know what we need. i know what they need to be successful. >> i have known jeanine nicholson since we worked together at station 15. i have always held her in the highest regard. since she is the chief she has

infused the department with optimism. she is easy to approach and is concerned with the firefighters and paramedics. i appreciate that she is concerned with the issues relevant to the fire department today. >> there is a retired captain who started the cancer prevention foundation 10 years ago because he had cancer and he noticed fellow firefighters were getting cancer. he started looking into it. in 2012 i was diagnosed with breast canner, and some of my fellow firefighters noticed there are a lot of women in the san francisco fire department, premenopausal in their 40s getting breast cancer. it was a higher rate than the general population. we were working with workers

comp to make it flow more easily for our members so they didn't have to worry about the paper work when they go through chemo. the turnout gear was covered with suit. it was a badge to have that all over your coat and face and helmet. the dirtier you were the harder you worked. that is a cancer causeser. it -- casser. it is not -- cancer causer. there islassic everywhere. we had to reduce our exposure. we washed our gear more often, we didn't take gear where we were eating or sleeping. we started decontaminating ourselves at the fire scene after the fire was out. going back to the fire station and then taking a shower.

i have taught, worked on the decontamination policy to be sure that gets through. it is not if or when. it is who is the next person. it is like a cancer sniper out there. who is going to get it next. one of the things i love about the fire department. it is always a team effort. you are my family. i love the city and department and i love being of service. i vow to work hard -- to work hard to carry out the vision of the san francisco fire department and to move us forward in a positive way. if i were to give a little advice to women and queer kids, find people to support you. keep putting one foot in front

of the other and keep trying. you never know what door is going to open next. you really don't. [cheers and >> growing up in san francisco has been way safer than growing up other places we we have that bubble, and it's still that bubble that it's okay to be whatever you want to. you can let your free flag fry -- fly here. as an adult with autism, i'm here to challenge people's idea of what autism is. my journey is not everyone's

journey because every autistic child is different, but there's hope. my background has heavy roots in the bay area. i was born in san diego and adopted out to san francisco when i was about 17 years old. i bounced around a little bit here in high school, but i've always been here in the bay. we are an inclusive preschool, which means that we cater to emp. we don't turn anyone away. we take every child regardless of race, creed, religious or ability. the most common thing i hear in my adult life is oh, you don't seem like you have autism. you seem so normal. yeah. that's 26 years of really,

really, really hard work and i think thises that i still do. i was one of the first open adoptions for an lgbt couple. they split up when i was about four. one of them is partnered, and one of them is not, and then my biological mother, who is also a lesbian. very queer family. growing up in the 90's with a queer family was odd, i had the bubble to protect me, and here, i felt safe. i was bullied relatively infrequently. but i never really felt isolated or alone. i have known for virtually my entire life i was not suspended, but kindly asked to not ever bring it up again in first grade, my desire to have a sex change. the school that i went to really had no idea how to handle one. one of my parents is a little bit gender nonconforming, so

they know what it's about, but my parents wanted my life to be safe. when i have all the neurological issues to manage, that was just one more to add to it. i was a weird kid. i had my core group of, like, very tight, like, three friends. when we look at autism, we characterize it by, like, lack of eye contact, what i do now is when i'm looking away from the camera, it's for my own comfort. faces are confusing. it's a lack of mirror neurons in your brain working properly to allow you to experience empathy, to realize where somebody is coming from, or to realize that body language means that. at its core, autism is a social disorder, it's a neurological disorder that people are born with, and it's a big, big spectrum. it wasn't until i was a teenager that i heard autism in

relation to myself, and i rejected it. i was very loud, i took up a lot of space, and it was because mostly taking up space let everybody else know where i existed in the world. i didn't like to talk to people really, and then, when i did, i overshared. i was very difficult to be around. but the friends that i have are very close. i click with our atypical kiddos than other people do. in experience, i remember when i was five years old and not wanting people to touch me because it hurt. i remember throwing chairs because i could not regulate my own emotions, and it did not mean that i was a bad kid, it meant that i couldn't cope. i grew up in a family of behavioral psychologists, and i

got development cal -- developmental psychology from all sides. i recognize that my experience is just a very small picture of that, and not everybody's in a position to have a family that's as supportive, but there's also a community that's incredible helpful and wonderful and open and there for you in your moments of need. it was like two or three years of conversations before i was like you know what? i'm just going to do this, and i went out and got my prescription for hormones and started transitioning medically, even though i had already been living as a male. i have a two-year-old. the person who i'm now married to is my husband for about two years, and then started gaining weight and wasn't sure, so i went and talked with the doctor at my clinic, and he said well, testosterone is basically birth

control, so there's no way you can be pregnant. i found out i was pregnant at 6.5 months. my whole mission is to kind of normalize adults like me. i think i've finally found my calling in early intervention, which is here, kind of what we do. i think the access to care for parents is intentionally confusing. when i did the prospective search for autism for my own child, it was confusing. we have a place where children can be children, but it's very confusing. i always out myself as an adult with autism. i think it's helpful when you know where can your child go. how i'm choosing to help is to give children that would normally not be allowed to have children in the same respect, kids that have three times as

much work to do as their peers or kids who do odd things, like, beach therapy. how do -- speech therapy. how do you explain that to the rest of their class? i want that to be a normal experience. i was working on a certificate and kind of getting think early childhood credits before i started working here, and we did a section on transgender inclusion, inclusion, which is a big issue here in san francisco because we attract lots of queer families, and the teacher approached me and said i don't really feel comfortable or qualified to talk about this from, like, a cisgendered straight person's perspective, would you mind talking a little bit with your own experience, and i'm like absolutely. so i'm now one of the guest speakers in that particular class at city college. i love growing up here. i love what san francisco represents. the idea of leaving has never

occurred to me. but it's a place that i need to fight for to bring it back to what it used to be, to allow all of those little kids that come from really unsafe environments to move somewhere safe. what i've done with my life is work to make all of those situations better, to bring a little bit of light to all those kind of issues that we're still having, hoping to expand into a little bit more of a resource center, and this resource center would be more those new parents who have gotten that diagnosis, and we want to be this one centralized place that allows parents to breathe for a second. i would love to empower from the bottom up, from the kid level, and from the top down, from the teacher level. so many things that i would love to do that are all about changing people's minds about certain chunts, like the transgender community or the autistic community. i would like my daughter to know there's no wrong way to go through life.

everybody experiences pain and grief and sadness, and that all of those things are temporary.. everyone. glad to be back. i hope you are summer is going well. and as much got to take time off. during our break. okay. i'm going to call this meeting to order. call the roll. >> president ajami >> here. >> vice president maxwell. >> here >> commissioner paulson >> here >> commissioner rivera. >> here >> commissioner stacy. >> here. >> members of the public make up to 2