don't want to sell unless they absolutely have to. and so one impact of that is there's been a we're not necessarily seeing that those those lower valuations. it's taking a while for those to be reflected in in private, private the private valuations in our in our benchmarks and in in the manager of portfolios. so we'll see the impact of those valuation declines. you know, continue to be impacted over the next few quarters. i'd say that conversely, it's a tough market for to be an asset owner that will create what we think will be a pretty good vintage year for real estate in 2024. and 2025. and again, i think while there will be certainly will be distress in certain sectors, areas like industrial and residential areas that the plan has been active and will likely continue to be active. you'll certainly see some distress there. but we're not expecting widespread distress. i would

describe it as maybe, you know, more likely opportunities to get exposure to asset classes, properties at a at a more attractive valuation, a better yields and an underwriting that doesn't require especially heroic assumptions to get to the target returns perhaps you know transitioning to the infrastructure sector where i'd say the story is a little bit more positive as chris mentioned, renewable energy, digital infrastructure. so think of things like cell towers and data centers still have huge tailwinds, huge capital requirements over the next few decades. and as a result, valuations in the infrastructure sector have remained pretty strong. renewable energy assets in particular have benefited in a lot of cases from specific contractual linkages to inflation that that that flow right to the revenues. there's a green premium now for, for

renewable assets. so you know, think of a generating asset that has a given amount of megawatts . a buyer would pay more for a renewed generating asset than they would for the same megawatts that's powered by natural gas and then lastly, the inflation reduction act in the us will be a pretty meaningful opportunity and have a meaningful impact on the infrastructure sector as as more renewable projects will be funded, that'll create opportunities for developers but also service providers and suppliers to the renewable sector. similarly, within the digital infrastructure space, huge tailwinds driven by the growth in technology in all aspects of our lives and most recently ai is, is having a material impact or we'll have a material impact on the on the need for data centers. that's which was a sector that you were starting to see some concerns around new supply. but but those dynamics have completely changed not a sector we're expecting to see much distress, if anything,

maybe we're concerned about valuations in some of these sectors that are that are that are receiving a lot of capital. and i'd say those concerns are largely on the core lower risk return. and so think of a fully built out wind farm or solar farm where those properties are probably trading at levels that imply a mid-single digits rate of return for the buyer. we think the better opportunity is more on the value added segment of the market, which requires development, which which, you know, has its own risks. obviously but can be mitigated through, through picking, picking the right gp's. and then we also like energy transition plays. you may recall we, we made a commitment to a few months ago, but you know, a way to benefit from these trends and the development that's taking place. but but, but you know, sort of supplying the picks and shovels, so to speak, to use that analogy. and benefiting from those megatrends without and hopefully a better a better return. and as we look forward

to the next even six months in terms of what's on the commitment calendar, we're we've got new commitments lined up for most likely funds focused on, again, data center cell towers abroad, renewable energy place. so continuing to grow that part of the portfolio. just quickly on natural resources, since that's a declining part of the portfolio, but it's still meaningful today. and the reason it's declining is because it's largely fossil fuel related energy investments. as much as we'd like to find timber and agriculture investments, it's hard to find those opportunities that meet the plans, return profile. and so the good news here is given that it's still a meaningful segment of the rail assets portfolio, is that fundamentals are decent. oil prices have largely traded between 60 and $80 a barrel over the past year, and that's a level that allows producers to make a good return. it leads to activity in the field that benefits the service providers. and those prices will fluctuate

based on expectations around recession, economic growth. and so we've been pushing more towards the $80 level. is the timing of a recession or the severity of it gets pushed out. similarly, the industrial metals will be impacted by those economic expectations, but you know, the so-called green metals, the lithium and cobalt and metals that are used for batteries and electric vehicles is a huge demand to continue to find those those metals, pull them out of the ground, find them in jurisdictions that are that are easier to work with. and so we would still expect to see some growth there. um, so not to be redundant, but this energy transition that we're going through, it is a transition meaning you will still need oil and gas for a long period of time and so in that context it's the portfolio should benefit from having that exposure here. and but

nevertheless, that portfolio of traditional energy investments that will wind down and the exposure to the renewable energy sector will grow in line with the hopefully quicker than the broader economy. so that transition will continue to occur and we certainly look forward to providing future updates on the pace of that transition and how that how that how that progresses in the portfolio. but with that, let me hand it off back to tanya. that concludes our prepared remarks and we'll open up for questions as well as. two questions. chris, is energy 2.0 is that renewables. you know, generally still renewable energy is what i'm focusing on. still generally relating to conventional energy, but just a different model where you have the us conventional shale boom, where fund managers

, companies were focused on acquiring acreage and doing development drilling. now groups are focused more on cash flow and producing assets. given us energy markets are maturing, it's still a conventional energy, oil and gas. okay, i know you've got us into some renewable energy funds. i'm just wondering how focused you are on that at all? we are and we have been active in that space for a number of years. we have also been making a number of commitments, have a handful or least a couple of core managers in that space. so we have been emphasizing and growing that portion of the portfolio. great the word fusion is coming back up on the radio all the time. second question in terms of this 5 billion plus portfolio for real, how much of it would you estimate percentage wise is in rates currently? we don't have any dedicated exposure towards reits and our managers don't generally invest in reits. so it's negligible. don't generally is it worth considering maybe you're trying to specialize, but in terms of there's a liquidity

issue, i know in the absolute return we change things a little bit to have more liquidity, which means less longer term stuff. i'm just wondering, in real estate there is that element of liquidity with reits, assuming you found a good manager and that. yeah, definitely. we did have a read allocation for a period of time. i think it was discontinued back in 2017. it's on our radar screen, it's on our weekly discussions and we do have plans to review that closer or in greater detail this calendar year given kind of the valuation kind of mismatch between public and private. so it's on our radar to deal with. nothing's imminent, but we do consider public securities reits. okay thank you. just. thank you. just a couple of questions. so one of the things is i was listening to the presentation that i just needed to keep wrapping my head around was reconciling some of the trends that you're explaining to us with some of the anecdotal stuff that we see here locally, because it was

hard to reconcile. so i'm hoping that you can help us a little here about the westfield mall situation. the large haze and van ness construct, apartment construction projects stopping, and then of course, the struggles with downtown office space. but there are some examples that i heard you as you were as you all were presenting around areas where apartments and single family rentals being an optimal source for optimism and some forms of office space possible being an area for optimism. and then even in some forms of malls. and so i was wondering if you can kind of unpack so that, you know, as we try to message what locally is a very different narrative from your analysis of the portfolio, that'd be helpful to us. sure yeah. i think it does depend on markets. clearly, san francisco bay area is one of the most negatively impacted as far as some of these trends and perhaps more so say in san francisco

proper or oakland. as it relates to the apartments or office space or some of the retail space. just given the dynamics, whereas perhaps some suburban suburban markets like san jose or parts of the east bay might be doing quite well. i think there are some pockets of growth and say we've seen activity with the i kind of or resurgence or trends there. we do hear of groups taking up office space in san francisco and the broader bay area as the capital of i for now. but the trends are definitely unfortunately negative within san francisco proper and parts of the bay area, but parts of the sunbelt, texas, other areas nationally, there are different trends than say, here and san francisco in particular has been hit really hard with the remote work phenomena and that we're probably one of the largest big cities where lagging behind everybody else. and that's one of the key reasons why. and that

impacts what is trickles down to everything like retail, hotels, everything else. unfortunately that and that kind of tied in. one of my other questions about the difference between domestic versus abroad and the work from home, it seems like the part of the presentation was that san francisco may be an outlier within the us, but the us is also an outlier around the globe in terms of work from home phenomenon. that's right. i mentioned there are some of those work from home trends that probably more accelerated and say the uk or australia, but say in asia, japan, other parts of asia from a cultural perspective or just not having enough space at your own home residence. people are generally showing up to the office from logistics perspective. i think there's groups that track that information. i think generally some of the bigger cities north in the northeast are maybe office properties, for example, are at 50% of capacity. compare that to the texas markets that are 70 or 80, maybe higher. and

largely never really left the office except for a few months in the early days of covid. and again, san francisco and other some other west coast markets are probably even lower than 50. so unfortunately, this is just a tougher market for a lot of these sectors. thank you. additionally you mentioned perhaps a need for some municipal subsidies and some areas for conversion of property. can you unpack that a little for us? yeah, i think i just think maybe as office values continue to decline, perhaps office properties, the values will get to a level where it makes economic sense for a for a developer to buy that and to either demolish it or convert it. i think the problem is, again, a lot of the layouts don't lend themselves to converting it to two residential. so they probably need to be demolished and rebuilt. so with those costs and i think just with the with the added level of risk of taking on a project like that, i think for

a lot of developers they can be doing other things that are that are easier and you know, not getting to that level of return, but get an acceptable return. and so, you know, there's been articles about, you know, in chicago, for example, where where i think developers have or the mayor has has talked about ideas of perhaps trying to you know, engage in activity to spur development. but i think yeah, whether it's sort of tax abatements, which sometimes you see related to affordable housing, perhaps perhaps those kind of public to private partnerships are what's needed to spur some of the development because it makes sense. i mean, there's too much office, there's not enough residential, there's certainly not enough affordable residential. so ideally that those groups can come together. but it's obviously complicated. and that's really in these markets as you're talking about that that were sluggish in the return office. they wouldn't be doing this and like texas or something. no but yeah some you

know the new york chicago certainly some of the cities that have had declining population, it would make a lot of sense to consider. and my last question is on some of the other when i was looking at the portfolio self storage and cell towers was the other one. but the specifically self storage storage we're seeing i'm seeing it elsewhere where i'm reading articles and they're talking about this. can you explain a little bit of where this trend is going? is this a short term thing? is there some long term projection? why is self storage such a booming area? yeah i think it's done well from an asset class perspective as it's driven by kind of life events, whether it's divorce, people moving, just general changes that aren't necessarily tied to the economy. so it's generally been a stable, defensible asset class for a number of investors is also quite fragmented or still own a lot by kind of mom and pop investors. although there are the large publicly traded reits. but there is still an opportunity to acquire these relatively small properties or develop properties in the right locations. so the main attraction is not necessarily tied to gdp and press cyclicals and say office retail. so i

imagine people have been getting divorced and moving for many, many years. but is the idea that it's mom and pops and it has really been consolidated as kind of the opportunity or the there's a number of trends and also because it's based on life events and relatively small percentage of someone's expense, oftentimes are not inclines or motivated to move their furniture or property out of these facilities. so owners historically have been able to push rent increases to the consumers without much impact of people leaving. okay. sector did boom. and during covid, as as people started to work from home and so needed to create that home office. so there was a probably a pull forward of demand that that now you're seeing the post-covid dynamics. it's flattening out a little bit. but but yeah, to chris's point, there's it's very defensive in terms of you know, in difficult economies maybe

people downsize or need to move. and so it's been a pretty stable, stable asset class that people don't always think about . thank you. so. i. assume an actual definition of the cities and worldwide and. redefinition of the city and work life and in tangency to having to stuff things in storage facility not to mention building out new

properties that are in new areas that have a different metric in what work and people are. so this is it's an interesting area . thank you. thank you very much for the presentation and for the questions. yeah thank you guys. probably comment. do we have any public comments? seeing none. a reminder to any callers to press star three to be out to the queue. moderator do we have any callers? madam secretary? we have no callers on the line. thank you. hearing no false public comment is now closed. okay let's call the last call is the last item, not the last item. the next item number 13 discussion item. chief investment officer's report.

thank you. just wanted to start off by saying thank you to the board members. it's been a lot of topics to get through this afternoon and detailed topics and i really appreciate your engagement and the good questions that that you asked. what i had asked the team as they did these asset class reviews that we not only reported on performance and the numbers, but really highlighted the judgment of the team and their ability to think about where we want to go moving forward. so hopefully that came through in the presentation today. with respect to the cio report here, i'll make a few points on performance. and then as always, provide an update on the board approved investments. so on the performance side, i want to reiterate, we put the performance numbers in here. we meet monthly. so we provide them to you monthly. but you know that we have a lot of private market exposure. so provide performance numbers on a monthly

basis has to come with a big asterisk that these are estimated numbers with lags built in our aum today stands at 34.5 billion. looking a little longer term three year performance again, estimate is at 10.3. notably exceeding the long term actuarial rate of return assumption of the 7.2. and think about that for the last three years, 10.3% return given all the turmoil in the market, we've had covid, we've had rate resetting inflation, bank struggles, but we continue to be in a strong position given the diversified creation and allocation of our portfolio. one point related to our asset allocation that i do want to continue to highlight for the board as i had done in the prior month, is that we are outside of our asset allocation guideline for treasuries, specifically treasury allocation is at 2.1%

versus the guidelines which have a range of 3 to 12. however we do have cash today. our cash stands at 2.2% and the range there is 0 to 5. so as i discussed last time, we are thinking about sort of treasuries in combination with cash as our source of liquidity . and even today, you can you can earn some return on that that cash. so we're in an okay liquidity position. but again, just wanted to be consistent in reporting that clearly to the board. and finally, with respect to this report, each month, my approach here is to give the highlights. we have more detailed performance reports on a quarterly basis, and i'm going to let those conversations drive the performance discussion. but if at any point board members want to talk more about what are in these slides in the performance, i'm certainly happy to do that unless there are any questions there. i'll go ahead

and turn it over to the approved assessments and i'll read through the script. yeah. at the board meeting on april 20th, 2023, the retirement board approved in closed session an investment of up to k750 million to mc p private capital fund. five r investment to that fund. close on july 27th, 2023. this investment is classified as a capital appreciation investment within the private credit portfolio and this is the third investment with metric net. next blackstone energy transition partners for at our meeting, the board meeting on june 15th, 2023, the board approved in closed session an investment of up to 70 million in blackstone energy transition partners for the commitment of 70 million to the fund closed on july 31st, 2023. it's classified as an

infrastructure investment within the real assets portfolio and it's the 12th investment with the group finally, altus health partners. six at the july 20th board meeting, the retirement board approved in closed session a commitment of up to 75 million and altus health partners for and priority co-invest vehicles . our commitment of 75 million to all terrorist health partners closed on july 28th, 2023, and this is classified as a buyout investment within our private equity portfolio. and our third commitment to altus concludes my remarks for the cio report, but certainly having to go in any more detail or answer any questions, any questions. okay i just want to spend more money of your operating funds and encourage my from my opinion as

the world changes, lots of theories and better ideas and whatever are going to come out of a lot of smart people. and i know joe is an avid and joe and leona are avid attendees of conferences and the like, and this is something that the retirement system does support. and i would only encourage board members to pay attention to the plan funds that were given and expand their mind. it benefits the plan. i think so, said any further business, anything for the good of the order. so go ahead. public comment. yeah. before when you public comment, aj did you have something? yeah, we're on the order. well, no.

yeah, we're on the public. no, we're on public service. any questions on the cio report? all right. yeah. no i didn't come for public comment. sure. pauline, public comment in the public comment, seeing none. moderator do we have any callers on the line? madam secretary? we have no callers on the line. thank you. hearing no calls, public comment going to call the final item. item number 14, discussion item retirement board member good of the order. so no. oh so to my fellow members, i just wanted to express some appreciation to the members of unite here that came up from los angeles at great expense to speak to us, but also the letter that we've all received, or at least most of us received,

detailing some of their concerns . i definitely found the allegations to be concerning, but i know that our staff does a great deal of due diligence when looking at any investments. my primary concern when i heard these though, is just the lack of labor, peace and the threat it can pose to possible returns on our existing investment. so i'm definitely when i hear about potential liability or potential labor issues that might have impact on returns on existing investments, i do have some concerns that i'd like to get more information on some. any other comments? no i would just like to echo the same concerns after reading the letter that was sent to all of us, as well as listening to the comments. and i would like some further due diligence into what's going on and the impact it may have on our our performance as well as just the optics. wrong. i don't

any further comments, items, nothing. all right. we're adjourned. public comment. public comment. excuse me. we have no in-house public comment . moderator do we have any callers on the line? madam secretary, we have no callers on the line. thank you. hearing no calls, public comment is now closed. or adjourned.

>> who doesn't love cable cars? charging emissions and we're free which we're proud of you know, it's not much free left in the world anymore so we managed

to do that through donations and through our gift shops. you got a real look and real appreciation of what early transit systems are like. this was the transit of the day from about 1875 to about 1893 or later, you know. cable car museum is free, come on in. take a day. come down. rediscover the city. you can spend as time you want and you don't have to make reservations and it's important to be free because we want them to develop a love for cable cars so they do continue to support whether they live here or other places and people come in and say, yes, i have passed by and heard of this and never come in and they always enjoy themselves. people love cable cars and there's none left in the world so if you want to ride a cable car, you've got to come to san francisco. that what makes the city. without the cable cars, you lose part of that, you know, because people who come here and they love it and they love the history ask they can ride a cable car that

has been running since 1888 or 1889. wow! that's something. can't do that with other historical museums. rarely, have i run into anybody from outside who didn't come in and didn't feel better from knowing something about the city. it's a true experience you'll remember. i hope they walk away with a greater appreciation for the history, with the mechanics with people are fascinated by the winding machine and i hope the appreciation, which is a part of our mission and these young kids will appreciate cable cars and the ones who live here and other places, they can make sure there will always be cable cars in san francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. it's the heartbeat of san francisco that founded the cable and the slot and without the cable cars, yeah, we would lose something in san francisco. we would lose part of its heart and soul. it wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell

ringing] august 15 2023 hybrid in person and virtual meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission. my name is dorrie camino and i am the commission's president. we will start with announcements. great we would like to start. the meeting with the land acknowledgment were. the san francisco entertainment commission acknowledged that we're on the unseated ancestral homeland of the roma. tish aloni, who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula as the indigenous stewards of this land in accordance with their traditions . the ram additional only have never seated, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as the

caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests. we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders and relatives of the remote community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. this meeting is being held in hybrid format with the meeting occurring in person in city hall room for 16 broadcast live on tv and available to view on zoom or listen to by calling 1669900. 6833 using meeting i d 87062. we welcome the public's participation during public comment periods. there will be an opportunity for general public comment at the beginning of the meeting, and there will be an opportunity to comment on each discussion or action item on the agenda. each comment is limited to three minutes. for those attending remotely. the commission will hear up to 20 minutes of remote public comment total for each agenda item

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yes, mr brook. here's the speaker card. thank you. and i'm ready. hi my name is michael trellis and i'm here. on behalf of friend um. a fact friends and allies of the castro theater. and as you can see, i am holding up two signs. the first says another planet sucks. the other sign says castro needs films. so um, since another planet took over management of the castro theater. there have been 242 dark nights of absolutely no programming using the calendars from now until the end of january, 2024 there will be

another 171 dark nights at the castro theater. no movies, no programming. no nothing at the castro theater. ah! what we really need this commission to put it on the agenda. what is happening at the castro theater now, um i've looked at your minutes since january of 2022 and not once. has the castro theater and another planet been on your agenda. for some reason. the entertainment that we are getting from another planet. and then the dark night when we get no entertainment and the impact of no entertainment, no programs at this theater is never discussed by this panel. now, stephen torres. has parlayed his

interest in the castro theater into a position on this commission. he's been on this commission since october. and yet, not once. has he put it on the agenda. how the ape greedy people or affecting his business at the twin peaks bar. he's an industry representative, which is really a joke. he's representing himself. that needs to end. since steven has shown he has no interest in bringing the castro theater to your agenda. um, asking the rest of you. as we are facing 171 dark nights from the castro theater, just put it on the agenda. how is the lack of programming affecting the businesses in the castro corridor? it should be a prime importance to stephen

torres, but it's not. but the month of august there will be only two programs that the castro theater that is unacceptable again. we need this commission to look at another planet and the castro theater. thank you. thank you. is there additional public comment for items not listed on the agenda. no more public comment for this item. okay public comment is closed. the next item on the agenda is item number three approval of minutes for the august 1st 2023 commission meeting. do we have a motion? motion to approve second. could i make an amendment? actually um , just, uh, that with the comments made by the

representative of the district that their title being noted as director and. that the first comment in regard to opposition was opposition predicated on um commitments that were amenable to the tenants as well. there was a nuance to the opposition. just if we could annotate that. okay? do we. do we have to adjust the motion motion to approve with commissioner torres is adjustments second. hey can we have a roll call, please. or actually, it's time for public comment. is there any public comment? on the minutes? yes. yes. hello michael petrella is again still from fact, friends

and allies of the castro theater. regarding the minute here on item. see about the, um , petition for limited live performance at the micro black storefront on market street under the public comments, it will list someone's name say that they're a neighbor and then commented in opposition or commented in support. of the permit application. um well, that is good information. what is missing is knowing just a little bit about why they opposed the permit or why they were in favor of the permit. and, um i think that, um you need to look at revising your minutes to include a little bit of information about why people have slept all the way down here

to city hall, or they called into the meeting to make comment to tell us. um just a little bit about their position. um. now regarding comments from tina aguirregaray, um, she takes to identifying factors here, she says. she's a community member. any representative from the castro lgbt cultural district, and she commented in opposition to the permit application. ah as someone who monitors this cultural district. i can tell you that they have not had any public discussion about the micro black application, so i'm really curious without having to look at the video from your last meeting. why tina was taking this position. she really would have been speaking only for

herself, and if she thinks she was representing the cultural gesture, eqt as some sort of representative of the community , i would challenge her on that. regarding item seven, tina geary says again as a representative of the cultural district. she thanks the staff for their work offer help to mitigate discussions between businesses and neighbors. um that's really rich. um we don't get any discussion from the cultural district. about their positions regarding the castro theater and what they're gonna say here. so, um thank you for listening. okay thank you there additional public comment on this item. there are no more comments on this item public. comment is now closed. can we have a vote, please? one second. sorry ah, we

are doing a vote. yes um, president camino. i as. i commissioner thomas commissioner torres, right. hey the meeting minutes have been approved. next item on the agenda is item number four report from the executive director. thank you, president. camino good evening commissioners. um, i did leave my executive director reports blank for this evening. however i did want to defer to senior analyst dylan rice to provide a brief informational update about some great work that he and a couple of our commissioners have been doing around overdose prevention, so uh, dylan. if you are there on zoom, please feel free to take over. yes thank you . director weiland. good evening commissioners tonight. i want to

report back on the overdose prevention outreach that commissioner thomas and i did this past saturday night at oasis in partnership with drag queen christina, rude and dph. we set up that information table with overdose, prevention supplies and versus and we had a great response from the audience . there were a total of 390 attendees and we handed out over 50 narcan, nasal sprays and 100 fennel test strips. um commission secretary leon is helping me with some slides but have some photographs to share with you from last saturday night. they're on the public. pc okay. i'm glad they're there. i'm just gonna i'm just going to i can't see them from my end. but if you want to just there we are now it's you're okay. so one of my one of the highlights for me personally. is this photograph seeing commissioner lawrence any and arkan to the sharing crowds on the runway with china, as you can see here. if you want to advance morning,

so there's another shot of cassina doing the training on stage for the narcan. you'll see how crowded it wasn't there. and laura at our information table. and just some sort of information table to the right is the flyer that we passed out which has cure code where people can watch the training video that we produced with cocina. it's a costume change with her look, i want to show off some of the queens of the night. i don't have all of the queens represented in this slide, so i apologize. but i want to just hear something i got. this is glacier erotica. this is bobby friday. this is tony o m. f g. hmm it was. it was a wonderful night. great response. thank you again. the commissioner thomas for all your guidance and support, and i'm so excited this

sunday afternoon, i'll be joined by commissioner torres at el rio for our next outreach event. so if you want to join us, then, um that event starts at two. el rio , and it is called daytime or illness. you also see in your folder commissioners and new york times article that just came out today that addresses had nightlife spaces in san francisco and new york city are offering narcan in trainings and cucina and oasis are highlighted in the peace and to me that's really underscores how this work is very timely and that san francisco is getting recognized nationally as a leader in overdose prevention and nightlife spaces. thanks again for your time. and if you have any questions, please let me know. thank you so much. that was great. and commissioner thomas i love that shot. it was fun. you were giving us oprah. i stayed up way past my normal bedtime these days to do it, but

it was it was absolutely worth it. okay. we got to keep you up when i lose my nightlife thread, aren't i? none of us can lose our nightlife. credibility okay , so, um, with that said, i do just want to say thank you for these efforts, and i love listening to us really expand our role in community engagement. and being in these streets, commissioners. any comments, flowers? just yeah. flowers for laura and dylan. i just really appreciate i was. i was sad that i couldn't be there this past saturday, but i'm very much looking forward to being there this coming sunday. at um at my yeah. i don't want to call it my home bar, but the bar very close to my home. thank you. and just i want to also acknowledge that august is international overdose awareness month and so

that's part of why we're doing it just to put it in context and august 31st as international overdose awareness today, there's gonna be a lot of, uh educational activities between now and then, if anybody's interested, um i'm happy to send out the information and let people know including city hall will be lit up in purple on august 31st for overdose awareness. thank you. okay? right? okay, lets do public comment. uh no public comment for this item. we have no friends on this item. okay public comment is closed. next item on the agenda is number five report from the senior inspector. thank you, president camino. good evening commissioners. we have received 37 311 complaints since our last

commission hearing on august 1st . i have just one update below. please let me know if you have any questions. update is about vanity nightclub located at 4 12 . broadway street, vanity holds a p o e and any hp permit with our office. on monday, july 1st permanent officers saying of central station notified deputy director as a veto of an incident that occurred outside of vanity on sunday, july 30th at 10. pm officers saying reported vanity security had denied entry to an individual because they observed that the individual was carrying a rifle in his pants. patron was told that he could not enter the venue with the weapon. but then security failed to contact sfpd. once the, uh. yeah failed to contact sfp v wants the rifle was observed. then the individual who was carrying the weapon and his group were later involved in a robbery, then assaulted other bystanders in front of vanity. officers saying stated that the call for service

was generated for an assault and requesting an ambulance, sfpd central station nor the ec received an incident report from management. as per sfpd. the following violations were observed on july 30th. not all security staff were wearing their designated uniform. 911 was not immediately called when the security found a patron trying to enter the club with a rifle in their clothes, and there was no incident reports submitted within 24 hours of the assault that occurred later that evening, deputy director azevedo issued a citation on august 4th. for the aforementioned permit violations should also be noted that deputy director as a veto, attended a meeting with the permit holder and sfpd central station captain morino. permit officers saying and lieutenant gains to discuss the incident. permitting explained that the effect that effective immediately they will no longer be working with the promoter who had been hosting the sunday night events. okay,

commissioners. any questions, comments? i just have one do regarding the last part, which. i suppose i appreciate that. they won't you know if they found the promoter particularly problematic, obviously in that they connected this to the to the incident. but do they also, um, indicate that they're going to be following the guidelines are supposed to be following thank you, commissioner. tourist yes, absolutely. so there is more to come on this first and foremost, the applicant is working on a revised security plan, and then they already all are aware that there will be a director's order to follow to ensure that they are adhering to that, so they have a deadline of submitting that revised security plan by friday, the 18th and then at that time director weiland will issue the revised. excuse me the director's order. to adhere to the revised security plan. um and officers

saying and i will be going through that closely. thank you. i had a question. does the venue have a history of incidents with police? can you be a little more specific or what is what do you mean by that? i mean, just in terms of like police calls coming to the venue regarding incidents of violence. they know that they said that they will, you know, not work with this promoter. but in terms of past experiences and just curious if it's been flagged. sunday's specifically with this promoter have been the problem. um and which is why specifically, the venue has moved to eliminate working their partnership with them otherwise, officers saying had reported along with an attendance on that meeting was the night lieutenant who often is in the you know when the entertainment is occurring no other issues throughout the week. it's specifically the sunday night party. okay. thank you. i guess i do have another

question. i know that outside lands is not our jurisdiction. but can you share any, um i don't know. what's the t when we hear about complaints that were coming in the 311, so we wouldn't receive any of those complaints directly. those would have been queued to reckon park . um so i don't have any knowledge of sound complaints, but i'm happy to check in with their permit staff and see what the numbers are like and see if it's comparable to other years. they've let me know that it's year over year been very similar for quite some time and less. they're up for a public hearing in that particular year. then there might be more complaints. so i'm an interesting data point . um i went on saturday and i enjoyed my experience. it's always so beautiful in the park and great to see it. ah totally lit up and filled with people

and all of the live music everywhere. um and it's almost already totally packed in, um i live in the area and it's so impressive. how um all of the folks working on that event are able to pack it up so quickly. so i think it was a big success . although i'm sure you've all heard in the news by now that there was a homicide that occurred on saturday. that was discovered by a resident nearby at 20th, 22nd and fulton. um at this point, i do not believe there is an excess to the event itself, but we're standing by to hear any other public information about that. um again . it's not our jurisdiction, but it's still of interest to our nightlife. um, community. i actually have 11 more question just on that. so i was actually gonna ask this later. but, um it isn't our jurisdiction. but if maybe when you do check in with recreation, and parks asked them about the safety issues that

they had regarding the soma stage. i believe there was a collapse. yeah so that was a structural issue with the summer stage. i do not know exactly what went down. i'm happy to check the only other information i received just around like public safety was just that. there was quite a bit of illegal vending going on this year, and there was a lot of enforcement out during the day to do education around that, um, but i do still think that it was an issue at the close of each evening. um so that's all i have to report around that. okay. thank you. okay? is there a public comment on this item. no public comment on this item. okay. public comment is closed. the next item on our agenda is number six hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the

jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. thanks president. camino good evening commissioners. we have two applications on our consent agenda this evening. both are for indoor llp permits. um there was no opposition for either permit, and sfpd station did not have any recommendations. so tonight, i'm recommending that you approve the consent agenda with the staff recommended conditions. okay? i'd like to move their consent calendar. actually, second. should we? we should do public comment after. oh, sorry, okay. okay, we have 2nd 1st, and we have a second. okay? is there a public comment on the permit applications? no problem. 01 public comment on this one second. okay. we just saw this. alright, i'm going to bring in real cell orloff. wrestle if you can hear me,

please amuse yourself and you have three minutes. i'm not sure i need to comment. i wasn't sure which applications this is for. is this the one third valencia straight or now? no this is not for valencia street. apologies. never mind. okay, no problem. okay only other hand that was up so that that means there's no mars conference. no more public comment on this item. thank you . public comment is closed. right maybe we have a vote, please. yes, president camille. i vice president kamala harris. i. okay your permit application is conditionally granted. please follow up with deputy director acevedo for next steps. and this goes back to director deputy director azevedo. introduced the

first permit application on the regular agenda. thank you, president. camino okay, our first permit agenda on a regular excuse me. our first permit application on our regular agenda is for a limited life performance permit for indoor entertainment and outdoor amplified sound at the front of the premises for white cap located at 36 08 terrible street . whitecap is a bar that is seeking the llp per permit to host occasional indoor entertainment, such as small bands and djs, along with playing prerecorded music at the front of their business to invite new customers in they're seeking the outdoor amplified sound monday through friday from 3 to 9 p.m. and saturday and sunday from 2 to 8 p.m. inspector sabrina has already said an internal sound limit for this permit application, which is reflected in the staff recommendations below the applicant distributed outreach letters to all of his commercial residents and commercial and residential tenants. and we did receive one letter of opposition from a nearby neighbor who voiced concerns to me as well as having an in person meeting with the owner yesterday. so through their discussion, and just as of

4 45 today, i did receive an updated letter from this neighbor who has voiced concerns with the applicant having the ability to host entertainment. seven days per week inside. um, however, the applicant would like to move forward with that request. they don't intend to activate daily, but they would like the option to have flexibility for booking. um so with that said turbo station did not have any added recommendations. and here to speak with you tonight is the owner matt lopez. i am bringing matt lopez in right now, um zoom. all right. let me try this again. alright matt, look at something. i'm trying to bring you in. um, if you can accept being a panelist. should be coming in

right now. there we are. hello. hello. hey, there. you guys have me yes. alright, i'm here. i lost the desk. there we go. can you guys hear me? yes, we can hear you and we can see you as well. do i talk first? you guys talk talk first. okay, so, um yeah, we've been, uh, we've been open for about five years and we're on 46 and

terrible. and occasionally we like to have a dj for events like our anniversary or new year's eve or uh, occasionally will do, uh, a night where we. have a brand come in, and we like to have some dj spinning music on the side. but the bar is very small and we serve craft cocktails. so are on beyonce's pretty social people come in there to have a nice drink and talk, and i'm not necessarily trying to turn this into a into a venue or a place where we do shows or playing music. the dj is just uh, kind of an option to enhance the ambiance. and, um there's not a lot going on on 47th and caravel and especially post covid a lot of people's habits have changed so people are going to bed earlier. people are going further to go check

out new places, so i'm just doing little things the to try to, um just enhance the experience at the bar. and sometimes people like to have a little music or to have some live music. but i don't plan on playing our music loud. it would actually probably said the same volume as our prerecorded music that we play anyway. it was. it's just fun. people like to come out for that kind of stuff. so if we say there's going to be a dj spinning or if we had a 123 person acoustic band that helps us drive customers in and then in regards to the outdoor amplified music, i have a so no system. and i have a so knows move that's about the size of a like a toaster, and we put it. in our window seal. and it creates a little music that goes outdoors, and it adds a little ambiance to our park lit as well

as draws people into the bar a little bit. we get a lot of foot traffic on sunny days from people coming off the l tara belt, and when they hear the music, they look in and they go. oh, look at that place, and usually they'll come visit us on the way back. actually here. have been told by customers. we heard the music. we decided to come back after we hit the beach. so, um the bar is very small. it's not really a party spot. it's more of a social atmosphere, and i plan on using the. the llp. for small events. and for new year's eve. our anniversary. it's also good for fundraisers. we do a few fundraisers there. um. and it's just to kind of enhance our business a little bit by, but by no means are we going to be having like a venue type atmosphere because of this.

that's pretty much it. all right. thank you, matt. k commissioners. uh, any questions ? okay commissioner perez. hello matt. thanks for checking coming in for your presentation. um yeah. couple of questions for you, um it says hearing application. you get your plan to start the entertainment right at the same time, you're your best. the operation of business starts. that's three o'clock, right? it starts at the entertainment starts at three and your business starts at three. we don't know when it's gonna start because every event will have probably have different timeline, but we just want the option to start at three. if we had a party on saturday or sunday. that's when we would start around three. but during the week it wouldn't make any sense because you know, most people still go to work. i was

just wondering if you have a chance to give whoever is performing to do a sound check before they actually start. performing yeah, we could do that. but in the okay, but then you'll just have to be careful. uh, because your business starts at three. not to allow them to be have overly loud sound check. before your business starts. oh you're saying because our permit is at three. they need to do. if they did sound check prior to three. then we would be breaking the rules. is that correct? just to be not necessarily. i think you just need to be mindful that if they are planted to sound check that it doesn't go very loud. okay? yeah we're we're pretty mindful anytime we play music because we know that the neighbors have had issues in the past with sound when i initially opened the bar, i held him.

community meeting at the synagogue across the street, and that was one of their issues so i'm well aware of it. in addition to that, my landlord is directly above me so i have to be extra careful with the noise because he lives there. all right, okay, that's question on your application, he said musicians will bring their own sound equipment, if you if you have, um live music, so if they are bringing their own equipment , who will be managing to make sure that they don't go over too loud was usually have a dedicated staff. yeah i have a manager. so anytime we have an event, my manager will be present. and he'll check the entertainment in and he'll be in charge of monitoring the sound. okay? and then if they are any complaints by your neighbors, uh, will that complaint be

answered by staff in real time. yeah, i've given. um most of the neighbors my phone number. so for example, melissa has my phone number. the neighbor who has the concerns and her and i communicate. so if she has an issue or the neighbor between her and myself. tam has an issue or my landlord who's above me as an issue. they always text me. we actually haven't had too many issues, but i have open communication via text with them. and we i live a few blocks away from the bar, so i'm responsive when i get those texts. okay. thank you, matt. thank you. go ahead, just a couple of questions first. remind me what was in the space before you opened white cap. it was boarded up. it had been boarded up for a while. i heard they were gambling. i heard they

were doing pai gow, okay? right thank you. and also have you engaged with the sunset chinese cultural district. in what way? well you're in their footprints . so i was wondering if you'd done some engagement with them, um, to start some communications , seahawk, howya could be mutually beneficial to each other. no, but i went to holy name elementary school. and it was 90% asian. so i have a lot of friends and a lot of them come to the bar. okay okay to any organization. okay uh, well , i'm glad to hear you have a lot of friends. um but the sunset chinese cultural district is part of the cultural district program through the city and county of san francisco. which center um these cultures within our city and try to keep, uh,

keep them as part of our neighborhoods and keep them. um healthy and so, uh, you know, one thing that is important to the end is that there is a ah, healthy relationship between businesses that opened in with open up within these cultural districts and the cultural district itself. would you? would you. be willing to engage with the cultural district to see how you might be mutually beneficial to each other. yeah i'm willing to engage as any neighbor resident in the outer sunset. okay. thank you. hey thank you, commissioner. i just make a comment for the record the regarding the cultural district engagement that the intake meeting that i held with matt was prior to implementing this suggestion of communicating with the cultural district, so i just want to go on the record. to let you all know that sure. yeah. thank you. thank you so

much. okay thank you. alright any other commissioner comments questions for the permit applicant? no, okay. all right. is there any public comment on this permit application? good evening commissioners. um although i'm a registered lobbyist. i'm not a client of matt. i just want to say that i've done other projects in that area and i've communicated with him. he is a very good character person, and when he says he's going to do something, he's going to do it. so i think when he took this place over five years ago, a lot of people thought, oh, wow, he's going to come in and do this and that and some people said, oh, that may or may not work. well, i'll tell you one thing. it's worked, and he's done a great job in that space, and, um, with a little bit of activity across the

street. that provides a little cultural vibrancy for that underserved area. i grew up in 35 28 terror, which is about a half a block away from that, and i can tell you you know, in my early years that was a sleepy block. and if anything, there was a lot of negative, um, impacts down there at that time , and what he's put on is more eyes. more ears. um he also is a great surfer didn't tell you that, but he's he's known in that area is being pretty accomplished. but he's he's a stand up guy, and i think that we should trust him with this permit, and i really applaud him for what he did in that space. okay thank you. is there additional public comment on this? there are no more public comment for this item. hey public comment is now closed. okay, commissioners. do we have a motion to approve the permit?

so moved second hey. can we have a vote, please? yes, president camino. i vice president kamala harris. hey your permit application is conditionally granted. please follow up with the deputy director for next steps. thank you have a good evening. okay. thank you. alright great. the next application are on our agenda tonight is for a limited life performance permit for trinity, located at 18 51 union street. the applicant is seeking an llp permit toast indoor entertainment, such as live bands and djs in two locations within their downstairs bar area, as well as entertainment, such as a pianist or jazz trio, and they're upstairs. private events based senior inspector is arena has already set an internal sound limit in the rear dj area, and we'll set the other internal limits. when the businesses sound system is ready

. i would like to note that we have received 13 sound complaints about trinity since april, 12 2023 and we have already issued them to citations one in april 2023 and the other in july. 2023 these are for hosting entertainment without a permit. another note i'd like to make is that the business is currently unable to operate with their doors closed due to a fire safety issue with their doors. the fire department is requiring them to fix their doors so that they can operate with them closed but currently they are required to be open, which is likely the cause of many of these sound complaints. the applicants are, they sent out an outreach letter to the commercial businesses and residential units on their block on union street, laguna street and green street. and all of this documentation is in your file tonight. they received think as of now, we're up to, um 13 letters of support, but only six are reflected in your file this evening, just due to them coming in since i've been here. um and we also received 11 letters of opposition for the application. originally there were 12 letters of opposition, but one person actually withdrew

their opposition after learning about the parameters of the llp permit. i replied to every person who reached out with education, and i offered to put them in touch with the applicants directly, but nobody took me up on that offer. i think it's important to note that the initial scope of trinity's llp application included outdoor amplified sound in their breezeway. but after neighbors reached out with concerns about this, the applicants would withdrew the outdoor amp sound component. so now the application is only for indoor entertainment further. i've made it very clear to the applicants that if approved tonight we would not issue there llp permit until they have remediated their door issue and they can operate with them closed. obviously washroom. sfpd northern station has recommended that you deny this permit application tonight. based on the history of violations at the business thus far when i spoke with him about his position, he said that he and his surgeon felt strongly that the llp permit is somewhat of a reward and that the operators haven't proven themselves to be good actors. yet if you have any questions, please let me know otherwise, i'm happy to introduce the owners. let's go

ahead and bring it. okay. great owners this evening, johnny matheny and nick bonnie. good evening. so i just brought some pictures of our bar and restaurant to show i think with the misunderstanding is for the noise violations so far down here, um another, uh, detail i wanted to share with you is i have taken over as the owner operator subsequent are violations. we had a manager in place who um, was electing to have live performances. maybe without our permission. so um, um first things first are breezeway is here. can you see this? so this is the area that

we will not be putting speakers up. um, as kind of a handshake with the community, so we don't want to be a nuisance, so we're going to keep that area. unamplified. we've also put in ivy as well as lattice here in case the doors were open for people coming and going, that noise would be captured. um or muffled. um, secondly, i think. upstairs is a hidden gem in the marina. um are upstairs area here is photographed today. so this upstairs area will not be having any amplified sound. um this area came with a baby grand piano, so it's clearly a place where people perform music before, even if it was a private

show. um, i worked at sf jazz. i worked at black hat jazz club when we opened it, um, i want to bring that to the marina. i do not want to do. um crazy dj shows like you trade down the street. uh um. i think this is a gem. that could really be, um, bring all ages cultures. um and people coming not just from the arena, but north beach parks tree pac heights. um we have had interest in people. young singer songwriter wanted to her album launch there and she just sings acapella. we have a seven year old showtunes pianist wants to sing show tunes up there. ah we have dave rickets of gaucho jazz , who performs behind absinthe and comstock. he wants to perform up there. ah, um but not only up there, we'd like to have that kind of music. but

downstairs in our back bar as well, i think we can have the jazz. trio we could have, uh, country band. um so i just wanted to kind of clarify that we're not just going for a absolute crazy club scene. um which i don't think would even work just to 11. um another picture of our back bar here. just to show you. um i think this is the area of contention. um so this bar is where are louder music is being played. you can kind of see the speakers. top right. um, this is the bar at the moment. we cannot close the doors because of a fire issue. um. we need a building building permit to do this. so we are in the process of that we've applied. we've been waiting for two months for that. as soon as that happens,

we will flip that door, so it's compatible for fire and keep it shut at all times, comply with the llp as well as make the neighbors happy. speaking of the neighbors, johnny has the numbers of the most frequent. a neighbor with concerns. um the neighborhood believe is called double digits. and uh, we do get his text and we do. turn it down. um and tell them that we at the moment we can't shut the doors. these noise complaints are not for life performances. however, these are just um, standard playing of the music at night. i guess i'll show you that door as well. sorry i'm the least technological advanced 32 year old ever so. so this door here. is at the end of that bar

that enters the breezeway. um that door at the moment is a fire exit, so must remain open. um johnny. anything you'd like to say. i would like to do is that yeah, i've got two goals to support the live music scene in terms cisco. that is what we've been. we've been acting next passed in my past two as well. and we did have a hiccup with one violation. what are we just had a miscommunication with the manager, but we've clean staff. nick came in full time, and i took more active role pretty recently. we are willing to do what? whatever it takes to, uh appeased neighbors. we like i said, like, give my phone number out to any neighborhood complaints at all. we're willing to make sure that they have all of our information. if there's ever any issues at all, we turned it down, and we've always been year trying to work with this organization and make a francisco better place for everybody. thank you

commissioners. any questions for our guests? upstairs piano marks that that's a private area. yes, parties, okay? um. musicians could potentially rented out in charge of ticketed fee. and then uh, it would still be a private area, though. yeah. got it. and then for the in terms of the door, so currently it has to remain open. but there's some sort of technological solution is at the like a fire door or something that can put be put there or what's the what's the solution? there simply switch the hinges. so it opens outwards instead of in it, i guess for fire it's an emergency fire door, so ours is in case somebody needs to bust out. yeah. it was actually installed backwards. there's a sealant on the inside of the window of the

door. which is we didn't install that. yeah we've been waiting for building waiting for the building department for quite a few months. as long as we've been talking with you trying to get their making us get a permit to do it, so we're waiting to get the permit from building department. okay? okay. thank you. okay commissioner perez. question for staff. can you remind us what the two citations were for? can you repeat that? you remind us what the two citations previously. we're for sure, the initial one was for well. they were both for hosting entertainment without a permit, so the first one was issued in april of this year for hosting entertainment at 1 a.m. we responded to a noise complaint and then the second citation was issued in july, and there was entertainment at 9 15 pm okay. thank you. oh my questions about your hours of operation for the live entity or the entertainment it says here, 9 a.m. to 11. but you always have operation starts at three pm is that typo? i, uh so we open weekdays at four, but

we do open saturday sunday at 9 30 10. um we are full restaurant , so we're doing brunch drag brunch. we want to have a little bit of availability to have live musicians at that time as well. okay doubt we would do that more than once a month for the morning. but given all that outdoor space, it seems like, um we're going to be busy when it's beautiful. and saturday morning, saturday sunday morning, yeah. so you're always operations? actually not three pm it's earlier than that. 33 pm on weekdays is when we open yes, on saturday and sunday. that's correct. yeah but on your proposed in their entertainment hours, nine am on weekdays. typo make sure okay. so what are your requesting then requesting 5 p.m. to 11 on weekdays. commissioner. i just would like to interject for the record, so the llp permit application allows for indoor entertainment

between the hours of 9 a.m. um to 11 pm and often times when businesses do their intake with me we talked about you know what is your proposed programming and often it's like, well, i don't really know yet because we're new and so the scope of the requested entertainment hours is often reflected as nine am to 11 pm but since it's indoors, there's no cap on ours. so a lot of folks i would say 99% of our applicants put nine am to 11 pm even if that's not their normal operating hours in the event, there is a private booking. there's a holiday. a for those reasons, so i don't actually i would say it's not a typo because i typed it. um and so and i know that that's what they were. we talked about during intake. um but it doesn't necessarily mean that that's an everyday it's just giving flexibility feature another bug. okay thank you for clarifying that, okay? thank you for that clarification so intense. um and then who will be responsible for

answering, um neighborhood complaints in real time, so i'm there five days a week, probably 80 hours a week. um and johnny is there or a block down his other bar. um 80 hours a week as well. i do live five blocks up the hill and johnny lives about five blocks the other direction, so we are always around. i really i mean, i'm a servant cisco local. i do not want to be a nuisance. yeah and they are your phone numbers there on the website. how will people access that? yes both of our phone numbers will be on there. okay. thank you. hmm. okay? just, um. you have generated a fair amount of neighborhood opposition, um to this with a lot of folks with concerns about the current operations and the absence of this permit, including a history of operating without a permit to

the point that the police department actually recommended not approving this, which is pretty unusual. i can't remember the last time we had a permit in front of us that had the police department actually recommending against it. um why tell me how things would be different once you had this permit compared to how they are now and what you will do to mitigate this relationship with your neighbors moving forward. well, first of all, i we have not had a live performer since. change of management as well as that last citation. that was a pretty big red flag that we needed to change. um change management and also get a grasp on everything going down at that location. um secondly, i think closing those doors and bringing other types of music to that venue will show that we're not just so one

dimensional in terms of being a nine pm to two am bar. we want to be a 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. um place of music, food and drink. um. i think. our bar at the moment has, you know? trivia has bingo night. it's not just exclusively nightclub, but we're being pigeonholed is slightly by the bar that closed one block down. um, which was a trade and that i think that brought a unsavory note to the neighbors that that's where they banded together, and we're not going to allow that to happen on their street again. um rightfully so, i think. that kind of nightclub crowd doesn't belong on union street belongs soma. and other areas of the city where it's built for that. um yeah, i'm i'm

not a night club. go. er, um i like to be. music venues like black cat or keys jazz club. um or i just saw of all these four seasons in the green room across the street. last sunday or two sundays ago. um so i think showing the community that would be, uh an honor for us to do as well and maybe redeem us. right. thank you. i guess i guess i just would like a little bit more clarification on on what? commissioner thomas was asking you is, you know, um without vilifying nightclubs or or that kind of genre of entertainment. i. i work in the industry. i know that. bingo and drag brunches are also very loud. and so, um, i guess in the interim,

if you got the license if you got the permit now and you're still waiting. for db or whatever for the for the door. how are you going to mitigate? the sound factor in a way that isn't going to raise the ire of the residents who've been complaining pretty consistently this whole time. the main thing is we worked with caitlin and the police were not gonna basically have this permit issued to us and we're not gonna start any kind of live music until we do have the clearance in the building department to change the doors and we can close the doors. um i think since those complaints we have invested in uh, lattice. wouldn't let us to try and absorb sound as well as, um, noise canceling curtains. um things of this nature, but, um, i think we're not gonna as soon as you get a permit. have any

entertainment. we needed the stores shot we need to be able to keep the decimal level down. andrew was buying and we clearly saw what the doors open. um it could be a nuisance. but with the doors closed, it was well under um, the ambiance. that the noise of the street. okay thank you. is there any additional questions? comments? ok, thank you. alright um, let's go to public comment. is there any public comment on this item? looks like there's no public comment for this item. hey public comment is closed. okay, do i have? is there a motion? i moved to approve with stark for recommendations. second okay? okay um, president camino. i.

commissioner prodi's commissioner thomas and commissioner torres. hi. hey your permit application is conditionally granted. please follow up with our deputy director for next steps. okay. the next permit application. on a regular agendas for a place of entertainment permit for the conservatory at one sansom and the holbrooke house, which is located at one sansom street. this is a new state of the art event space that also has a restaurant inside during the day, the conservatory is open to the public and at nights and on weekends, it can be rented out for private events. the restaurant will have its own hours of operation, but together are under one ownership team and one p o e application staff will be setting an internal sound limit in accordance with municipal police code article 29 once the applicants have their sound system set up, they plan to use the peewee permit for live music during weddings, corporate events, buyouts,

etcetera, and the applicant has conducted extensive outreach, sending out over 500 letters to their immediate neighbors, none of which are residential. there was no opposition for this permit in central station has included their standard calendar ring condition, which is reflected below here to speak with you tonight is the manager of the space fill spiegel. how are we? yeah i'm taking that as good. uh you know, we are starting this project. my company started this project about 2.5 years ago, working with prudential and the thought in mind was trying to reinvigorate something on the corner of sansom, sutter and market street and to do something that was unique. and you know, i kind of want to express that this is a three pronged project. one of its pretty easy and it's a bar and a restaurant inside the lobby of an office building and from a sound perspective, there's really no issue. um, you know, it's going to be a very

traditional space monday through friday there to actually service and embrace the financial district. we're going to be open for sit down breakfast. we're gonna be open for sit down lunch. and then it is a small plate happy hour business into the evening. now we are requesting from that space. we're going to be open from 7 30 in the morning until midnight monday through friday to start we'll see you know where the financial district has a tendency to get very sleepy, but we're going to walk into this with some with some hopes. the actual public space, which is attached to this building the one sansom street building that you might be familiar with. the public spaces in 8000 square foot old london, paris bank. it's a beautiful space that has a glass ceiling and glass wall marble walls and we've just installed these new glass doors with prudential, who owns the asset and i'm literally attendant in the space. um we

plan you know, part of our goal is to actually activate that public space. so monday through friday, the owner of the building prudential in conjunction with barker pacific group there is there managing partner has given my company a budget to spend on the public and we intend to do so. so we will have you know, once again we're in the financial district. so the type of event we're talking about is, you know, hosting a barry's bootcamp at 7 30 in the morning for free to the neighborhood we actually met with the marine corps to have their band played during fleet week. you know, on one of the big days, you know, leading up to it, and we intend to do things quite frankly, to entertain the public in a very sterile way. you know, the fact that matter is we're on, you know, by a conservative company, and we're in a conservative neighborhood and that's you know , that's how we're going to be working as so we have the restaurant and that's a pretty

pretty simple thing. we have the public space, which we're really, really excited about. and then we have the space the same space that's a public space when it is private, and that space becomes private. monday through friday. i'm sorry, saturdays and sundays and holidays and 12 days a year monday through friday, we have a condition to close the space for a 24 hour period 24 times a year monday through friday, we can close 75% of the space at two o'clock and close the space at five o'clock. the reality of that for our company is our goal is to do about 72 events a year and you can see that number is specific for a reason. and that is our intentions are to have 40 events on a saturday 10 on a sunday 12. of the days that were allotted by the city to have some fun and interesting events

. most of them will be fundraisers and i could list some that were already doing and then mostly neighborhood holiday parties for the businesses that are in the neighborhood, so it's a very specific um, it's a very specific event plan once again, this is, you know, owned by a large company. this is not going to be, um you know, our band is going to be wedding bands, you know, we're going to have you know the dj, the traditional djs and wedding bands that play an events and if you were to go to a traditional christmas party, whatever that version of entertainment would be. so that's the overall you know, three pronged effect, and then me and my company are running that you know, i spent the last 12 years running a very similar company for clint reilly, three blocks down the street, including the julia morgan ballroom, the merchants exchange club and created a restaurant. our director of operations vicky tom spent