this meeting of the refuse rate board for august 31st, 2023, into session. so i will turn it over to our team to read some announcements. um please respond with hear or present at chair to hear board member herrera here with two board members present. we do have quorum for the refuse rate board and will move on to the land acknowledgment. uh, we acknowledge that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula as the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone had never ceded lost nor forgotten their responsibilities

as the caretakers of this place , as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. thank you very much. please call item number two. item number two is a presentation and action item from the refuse rates administrator to adopt a refuse rate order for rate years 2024 and 2025. thank you. i'll turn it over to jay. do we need to reread the no, no, no worries for online. is it.

thanks know you. you initiated it already just now, right? i did. okay uh, on you, the clerk pc? yeah. just click on mute. i believe webex is now in session, so i just want to make sure it is 906 and we will call the refuse rate board meeting to order for august 31st. we have called the role and just to acknowledge i am here, carmen chu and board member dennis herrera is also present, constituting a quorum of this body. we've also read the acknowledge easement for the ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone and so we will move on to item number two, which is the rate order for fiscal years 23, 24, 24, 25. and we'll turn it over to jay. great

good morning. city administrator chu, general manager herrera, jay liao, refuse rate administrator with the comptroller's office. this is our fifth rate board hearing for this rate setting cycle. i want to thank the board for their time, attention and thoughtfulness throughout this process, and i want to thank dpw , the department of environment and recology for the work they've done throughout this process as well. i think we've come a long way in a short amount of time and no small part to their risk, defensiveness and engagement. we have two items here. during the last hearing we had technical difficulties that prevented some members of the public from addressing their prop f comments and objections. so we will revisit that item and give them that opportunity. and then the last item would be the refuse rate order. we'll give a short presentation summarizing the rate order with an updated sequa exemption for the board's consideration today. so as a

quick recap, so proposition f allows anyone affected by the rates or proposed rates to file a written objection to the refuse rates. administrator order. there were 220 written objections filed with our office and were considered and address at the last refuse rate board hearing on july 24th, 2023. because of some technical issues, some ratepayers were unable to comment on the objection remotely. so this agenda item continues in part was continued in part to give those ratepayers another opportunity to make comment. so as a recap, some of the major themes from the objections included and objections to the two rate increases in general, 75.9% of response respondents objected to any rate increase. the most cited reason was the fact that recology had already raised rates in january 2023. 9.5% of responses commented on the service issues. the most common reason was related to missed pickups or consistency of pickups. and lastly, 8.5% of responses supported some form of rate increase. the majority of

those responses. respondents supported the refuse rate administrators proposal. so we'll take a moment to allow any comment, comments or objections lines to be spoken orally by any ratepayers at this time. thank you very much for the comments. we will open it up for any prop f comments. are there any members of the public who wish to voice their or provide comments for prop f comments or objections in person on seeing none? why don't we go online? are there any members of the public online who wish to speak on their proposition f comments or objections. there are no additional comments online. thank you very much. given that we will close the prop f comments or objections, i'll turn it back over to jay. so the next item is our refuse rate

order. so the refuse rate board's rate order sets rates to no change at the beginning of rate year 2024 on october 1st, 2023. then on january first, 2024. this is three months into the rate year. the rate order will increase by 1.33. the rate order will further increase by 2.5% in rate year 2025. that would be october 1st, 2024. this will amount to a 3.92% cumulative two year increase. this is lower than recology's proposed 6.15% cumulative increase and equal to the refuse rate administered orders proposal of a 3.92% cumulative increase as directed by the refuse rate board in the last hearing july 24, 2023. this rate order includes an increase to programmatic reserve of $750,000 and rate year 2025. in addition , we have the planning department has determined that

the adoption of this rate order is exempt from this from sequa. and finally, just to run through what our new investments as a recap with the new investments for the rate increases, get us one, we are maintaining service levels estimated 3.4% increase in additional 1% increase in rate year 2025. that accounts for negotiated salaries, benefits and growth and other costs to operations. we're enhancing other service levels as well for abandoned materials collections, increasing capacity by 20, public receptacles collections also increasing that capacity by 20. and other operations and administrative and administration. we're including two relief drivers to ensure adequate regular collection and two additional cardboard pickup drivers as additional supervisors and managers to support those new drivers and some analytical support to address reporting requirements. we're also looking to ensure safety. three

additional drivers to establish a new two person routes where appropriate, as well as supervisors for increased supervision for those additional drivers. this is mainly in the tenderloin area improving contamination and diversion. we have an organics pre-processing investment, trash processing pilot. in addition, we are doing a pilot around new cameras for contamination as well. so we are building in some flexibility. we have a programmatic reserve to allow for city requests beyond the rate order. i should also add we are not on this list is funding for capital reserve to address long term costs. and then this. we're improving reporting for increased reporting requirement for greater transparency and tracking of operational financial performance. and lastly, we're doing this in part by finding cost savings that would not impact service delivery. so that's a summary of

our rate order for the board to consider today. i don't know if recology might have a few comments before we go to deliberations for the board members. chair chiu, member herrera. good morning. my name is evan boyd, vice president for san francisco . one thing i would like to add in regards to the rates included in these rates is a tip fee increase at at the recology san francisco transfer station that takes effect october first of 2023. in regards to the process, just want to thank the rate review board. thank jay liao think ben becker, dpw san francisco environment staff for

their partnership and collaboration during this process. very long and arduous process, but i think the end result is good for the ratepayers, the residents and businesses of san francisco and recology is looking forward to continuing to meet the needs and service to the residents and businesses of san francisco. so thank you. thank you very much. given that, why don't we open this item up, item number two for public comment. are there any members of the public in person who wish to comment on item number two, seeing none in person, why don't we go online? are there any members of the public online who wish to speak on item number two? for the record, there are no remote public comments. thank you very much. given that we will close public comment on item number two. this is an item that we have heard through a number of series of different meetings and

the evolution of the different elements that are part of this rate order. i want to take a moment to thank the controller's office. jay in particular, of course. todd rydstrom and the controller himself for all of the great work that they've put in to initiate this new process that the city is embarking upon . i do think that it provides stability in terms of where the review of rates sit within the city and also creates a process that i think is a good one for us to continue to emulate and to grow upon and to improve. i also want to thank dpw recology department of the environment for all of their partnership. i know this process is was a fast one, but it was one where all of you provided really good comments and will help make this rate setting process even stronger into the future. so again, just want to acknowledge the great work that was done to lift this new effort on behalf of the city. i think as a whole we see a relatively modest increase in rates over the two year time period, despite some of the big challenges we know are hitting us in the inflation

. every market across the board for vehicles, equipment, labor for our gas, fuel, everything else that impacts service delivery. so i want to thank the controller's office for their close look at the costs and making sure that we are embedded, what our embedding, what should be included in the rate process. but i think for the public writ large, there's also some improvements that we think are much needed, including the 20% increase in public receptacle collection amongst other investments in making sure we pick up bulky item or not bulky items, but cardboard and other abandoned materials on our streets. so again, i want to thank everybody for their due diligence and work on this process. with that, i'm open to either discussions or emotion on this item. so moved. all right. so this item has been moved. i'll second that. we'll take a roll call. chair to a member.

herrera hi. thank you very much. this item is moved and passed. we'll move on to item number three, madam clerk, can you please read item number three? item number three is the opportunity to propose future agenda items with discussion and possible action by the board. would any member of the board like to propose a future agenda item? why don't we open this item up for public comment? are there any members of the public who wish to speak in person on item number three? seeing none, why don't we go to online public comment? any members of the public online who wish to speak on item number three? for the record, there are no remote public comments. thank you very much. given that, we will close public comment on item number three and there are no additional items to be added by the board at this moment. madam clerk, can you please read item number four? item number four is general public comment comments specific to the item on the agenda may be heard when that

item is considered. general public comment may be continued to the agenda if speakers exceed 20 minutes of public comment. thank you very much. we're now going to open this item up. are there any members of the public who wish to speak at general public comment? general public comment is for any items that are not on the agenda today. seeing none, we will close the in-person general public comment. are there any public commenters online for general public comment? there are no remote public comments. thank you very much. given that we will close general public comment or item number four and i believe we are adjourned at 918. thank you so much.

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annuals the most pristine water source wrochl getting it from the dam to san francisco was a challenge. the construction of mountain tunnel through 19 miles of grantite brought the water to the reservoir and then to the moccasin power plant the pipe lines called pen stalkers. for moccasin it flowed across the san wa queen valley where michael o'shaugnessy failed a daunting challenge. >> most feat was tunnelling throughout coast ranges. which was the tunnel was 28 miles long. it was an under taking but we persevered he wanted to drill through so it would be gravity flow from beginning to end. there were 85 miles of tunnels

some through grantite and 71 miles of aqueducts to carry hetch hetchy water to the crystal springs reservoir >> o'shaugnessy delivered to bring water and generate power from the tuolumne river 167 miles across california by gravity flow to the san francisco bay area. >> this o'shaugnessy dam centennial moment is >> conduct a field shelter exercise where we open up a number of tents that animal control has they have supplies and equipment and staff and volunteers. we simulate the need for cape ability after a disaster or earthquake. >> animal care and control is

your city's animal shelter. we care for approximately 10,000 animals a year. we are opinion for san francisco's animal in thes upon effect of an emergency. we got our tents and practicing how to deal with that. >> this is the shelter is overwhelmed with animals after a disaster this shelter is full regularly. if we torch have an event that would cause a number of animals to escape or injured or stray or separate friday their people that's where we would respond. >> pets are part of the family and need to make sure they are taken care of like people with the supplies and equip we are able to provide shelter for pets in addition to the existing shelter. >> we have formulated a plan so this in the event of a disaster we are hear ready to help and

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>> president ajami. >> here. >> vice president maxwell. >> here. >> commissioner paulson and rivera are excused. commissioner stacy. >> here. >> thank you. members mimake up to 2 minutes of remote comment dialing 415-655-0001, access code: 2592 058 3232 ##. then star 3. you will hear i chime had you have 30 seconds remaining. you must limit to the topic of the gone item discussed. unless you are spoking in general public comment the chair can interrupt and ask to you limit to the agenda item.

address remarks to the commission as a whole. thank you to sfgovtv. if you have in the done so silence your electronic device. also item 8 on todayy agenda the hearing to consider possible action to revise the rules governing electric service pulled from the agenda and rescheduled. and additional low there will be no closed session today. san francisco puc acknowledges it owns and stewards of the unceded lands in the territory of tribes and other descendants of the federal mission san jose

alameda county. the puc recognizes every citizen has and continues to benefit from the use and occupation of the tribes lands. since before and after the puc commission founding in 1932. it is important that not only recognize the history of the tribal lands but also we acknowledge upon and honor the fact that the people have established a work partnership with the puc and are productive members in the many greater san francisco bay area communities today. i apologize. i would like to recognize brad taylor. our favorite voice on line.

he is retiring i wanted recognize him he has been managing sudden front's puc technical operations which is over cease the puc business and server team and infrastructure applications and the customer service center. and well known moderator and voice behind puc's public comment. who after 9 years of service with the puc decided to do other opportunity. we'll miss brad's voice. when you took joined the commission he was the voice that we would pay tension to. to know when to stop and start. who is speak next and all the technical difficulties solved by brad. that is was an important --

rowel to play we appreciate that in march of 2020 the covid-19 declare exclude state and local emergency orders instituting remote meetings of public busied. brad worked with it teams. to amend fully remote commission meetings and ability for remote public comment of which was no easy task. brad continued to provide with exceptional support and ensured public access to our hybrid meetings we thank brad. i appreciate how kind low he always after every comment or thanked them for their comments. i appreciate that. it is kind and thoughtful voice. we would loishg to thank lee for

his service and welcome irene meaghan for [inaudible]. to the team. so. good luck are brad. welcome irene and mandy and we will miss brad but excited have new members in our team. okay with this could you read the first item. first is item 3 approval of the minutes of august 8 of 23. clothes. any comments -- i have only have a right side i don't want to ignore you but i will try to -- [inaudible]. any comments or questions? if none can we have public comment? member who is wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 3 the minutes of august 8 press star 3 to raise your hand.

you will hear a chime when there are 30 second it is remaining to speak. do we have anyone present to provide comment on item 3? mr. moderator do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are no callers wishing to be recognized. >> public comment on item 3 is closed. >> clothes can i have a motion and second to approve. >> move to approve. >> second. >> president ajami >> aye >> maxwell. >> aye >> stacy >> aye >> >> thank you. minutes are approved. the next item. why item 4 report of the general manager. quarter low audit performance and review report and will

present that. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm blackwood audit director. thank you for having me here today. i presented the audit quarter low audit and review report for the fourth quarter. may i have the slide. june 30, 46% of the year completed. at then of the further quarter. 6 audits or 15% schedule today commence in the fourth quarter. >> here are some of the details of the 3 audits completed in the

fourth quarter. on april 20 of 23, the controller's office issued energy center franchise audit for years 20 then and 2020 focused on 338,000 paid to the city for the period. in may and june of this year the 2021 greening energy verification audits were issued for super green. focuses on different rps energy levels. when we look at the in progress audits, this work includes an audit we are engaging with the board of supervisors budget legislative analysts on audit of chapter 6 with the puc. this is their biggest audit of the year.

bla come from motion 2285 passed by the board to conduct a performance audit of the puc's delegated authority for chapter 6 of the code. this was passod november 29, 2022. it focuses on the past 3 fiscal years. on this year, january 5, 2023, received our first request for information from the legislative analyst relating to the audit. and a second for information on april 20th of 2023. the first requests for information was related to understanding of our organization and identifying all of the staff involved in procurement process all of the policies -- and understanding all the procedures reported procure am >> we provide bla listing of contracts from july first of

2019 to june 30, 2022. for professional services and public works. >> the second ask for information a request for full approval documentation for almost 40 different contracts. chosen by the odd tors totals 740 million dollars. to date at the puc24 staff have been revolve in the providing the requests in a timely manner and the agency invested about 400 hours of staff time to independent to the requests. to ensure we are dill gent in provide acraid information. in addition, to the chapter 6 audit from the board of supervisors budget legislative analyst, they have a conflict of interest audit in progress from the same motion m22185, focussed on the management and prevention of conflicts of interests in the approval and award press for

contracts. may 11, this year, they contacted us and had the request for information. to electric at 10 specific contracts. and so in response of this request for information we provided documentation for the selected contracts with policy and procedure documentation. based on our discussions and check in's with them. we uponpated the closure in this fiscal year. we're doing everything we can to provide them all of their information requests. so. as you know the audit bureau monitors all open audit recommendations throughout the agency to ensure they are addressed timely according to respective dead lines. as of june 30 of 23, we had 15 different recommendations across

2 audits the sewer system improvement, contract and recommendations from the ref now lease audit of crystal springs golf partners currently still hope. >> moving forward we anticipate completion of 11 audit in thes first quarter and they include the wholesale revenue requirement, statement of changes, balancing account for fiscal 21. and 21-22 the fiscal year 22/23 and the water, wastewater and hetch hetchy and power. the assessment the reliability standards compliance audit the cyber security for fiscal 22 and 23. the nert audit and 14blb compliance audit phase 2 oft

revenue bond program's audit. we participate the launch of 4 audits this quarter. the audit of the financial statements for water, wastewater and hetch hetchy and power and phase 3 of the bond problem audit. thank you for your time, i'm available for questions. >> thank you. why commissioner maxwell. >> thank you. mented have been if the chapter 6 audit with the board of supervisors how often will this happen? one time thing? the board of supervisors my understands nothing reading the motion and talk with them they have the discretion to look at different departments and so they do this every 3 years based on my understanding of the documentation and the motion. >> they do a department every 3 years >> yes and the puc >> they could do ours again if something were to come up or not. >> could do ours again. i'm working with them to

understand their full plan for all the audit activities they have and other policy reviews they are doing at the puc. >> is there any over limited partners in the audits the other audits we are doing. there would be over laps not all back to square one >> yes based on the contracts in the first request they had an over lap in the second request and they acknowledge they wanted further details and information. there was over lap. >> thank you. i appreciated the recommendations that were provide especially one les to my heart contract management improve ams. that is an person issue. thank you. no questions can we are public comment, please? >> member who is wish to comment on item 4a press star 3

to raise your hand. anyone here to provide comment on 4 a >> do we are callers in the queue? >> there are no callers wish to be recognized. >> public comment on item 4a is closed. >> well is in other report. >> thank you. >> thank you. could we have theed next item, >> next is item 5 the bay area water supply and conversation agency update. good afternoon, commissioners. good it see you happy summer as well. if i could have the slides.

thank you. >> pleased to be here to talk to you about the project i referenced a few times our water reliability round table. and this is an effort that we under took begin interests expressed by different stake holders throughout the 3 counties and other areas for an opportunity to collaborate with the stake holders on water reliability the concept of one water what is the opportunities that exist we will have 3 goals to understands how projects are discussed could fit within a one water concept. identify collaborative opportunity and identify how entities work together and support each other and figure out huwe move forward with this. the report is available on our website. the graphicsil go through federal from the report. it was an interesting press we general low did it all via

remote. and we used new tools. >> we held 4 workshops. and each workshop had a different theme. it was focused on a theme. and they occur in the may of 22 to february of 23. the invited participates really inrighted everyone we connect with and in different buckets. water, wastewater. our member agencies but the wastewater entities in the service area and regional areas. . san mateo agencies, a lot focussed on where is the gap? in this water can sept in san mateo has the biggest area. there is san mateo city and county agency governments. and san mateo flood water.

flood control. valley water, san francisco and house interests as well as ngo's. we roach out consistent low on all sorts of issues. and we got good participation by the member agencies. one of the things we want to work on is participation by other this is was an area we recognized needs work moving forward. >> so i mentioned we have 94 workshops in the report you got materials for all of them they were focusod topics and an educational opportunity for the participates and get feedback. each workshop featured a guest speaker and highlighted topics. based upon the input we received from others. invited list water and power. presented on one water plan. approximatelyo alto on its

efforts. puc on the alternate water supply and so fourth. the you'veed 10 clothes and experts in the field educate everyone in how we pip inspect this process in a better way. >> and in order to we learned zoom is in the the greatest opportunity for stake holder meetings to get input. we tried test out new things we had inneractive poles. break out groups different ways to engage xrnt that into the report to inform future work. so we had polls, that is information this is in the report as far as the interim products. one be main products from this project information sheets. so project participates were

invited to share about their planned future projects and put this information on a standardized form. and then could be used to launch in other efforts. the strategy 2045 or this map shows the result graphicically of those projects. that were identified and you know are they surface water. storm water. recycled. had phase of planning in a way to try to capture had is going on in this large region. in looking at those together we had recycled water and policy and others together a range of yield 21 to 40mgd some are in

concept stages. and that was the exciting piece and how to how to work on the project and move them forward with the interests of the agencies. so, after we went through the shots we pull today together and tried gauge the interests of the group and working together further. and there was a lot of that interest. and we will facilitate this effort we have workshops budgeted for this fiscal and the recognition the result will feed in the straj 2045 work. whether remains independent or absorbd that remains to be seen. we will see how this works out.

it was exciting the other big thing in our plan for next year the idea of the provide for grant support. that was the key take aways was what -- there was a need for someone or agency to provide assistance in identifying grant opportunities. possible low writing grant applications or a consultant write them. everything shy of grant administration if you will. and so this is something tht board supported in the work plan and we are moving forward with that it was a positive effort and useful in our next steps forward and the questions you all have about what is help negligent service area and the potential plans and i want to make sure you were aware and answering questions you might have.

>> thank you. mrs. stacy. thank you i applaud your efforts it is i great problem solving tool we need more of in the future. can you give examples on your the map that shows various projects. you have a lot of projects shown as other. would you mind giving a couple of examples. i'm sure i can leave them in the report. jot other projects goes to some of the grant support. so things to facilitate projects moving forward was the big piece of this . that was the twhon stood out in my mind. i thank you than i were projects on a map. i will look here may be tell stand out here.

others. a purple. i will get back to you the others are not stick out to mow in my mind. >> apologize. look at the report i'm sure they were listed. they were all listed and an information sheet for each project. >> thank you. >> thank you for this. i have a saw your different questions. lots of projects listed in your slide -- the one with the bubbles on the map. and -- and -- you know we have seen a lot of the projects in this format on the maps for a long time. and -- i'm assuming a lot are interested in building partnerships and build some together. i'm wondering00ue know well is one thing to talk about partnerships and another to build them and a lot of that goes back to what is at stake.

who owns the water who will deliver it, what does it mean n. conversations this you had, wases there anything that was of exceptional that came out you had not thought b. i think it is always great to bring people together and have the conversations. another thinga come out of them i feel like they were like 5 things we did not think about or 5 opportunity that were there we did not pay attention to. and while we have talked about this together. financing was important. but it is not just financing it is who operates. who is the northern. who has the right to use it. how do you transfer friday location to location. a lot of other things that guess behind the projects. i wonder federal anything come to minds? attending those workshops. >> you hoyt 2 things.

first the reason we are moving forward with the guarantee assistance program had is something i have been less than enthusiastic about. i appreciate when we get grants but guarantee administration is complex and we have a small office and that was in the one i was thrilled about but came across unanimously. i will say, that well is a legality of grant moneys out there to get to the grant monies. to be cape okay of getting them. there an assistance level that is coming they can offer. that was a major push that will make a difference. other thing that changed an institutional question. right. how does the development of a project relate to the existing

status quo. and rights and obligations? and with the puc's continuing interests the threats on the supply. climate change. well is an increase recognition that there is a benefit to the diversification for other reasons that did in the exist 15 to 20 years ago. now the benefit bring others together to say if we increase partnership this is are logical. where you got a basin and those partners are coming this is a logical connection with shared needs. that seemed to be more evidence then and there in the past. but that requires money. that was where i think trying to provide the money and keeping that conversation going and addressing the real appropriate keksz. which is different saying i want

to partner with someone on the bay and do a project. i that's an upon different institutional consideration. this was about upon hey, where are the natural partnerships we had not thought about and obvious to us. some of these meetings were held in the wake of the flooding. i money to be on i'm disappointed that for example i don't see more of on site reuse options on other people's tables. you know. >> i don't think that would have shown up here i was not expecting this to show up on this. that is going to show up through the boska strategy and take a larger a role boska is play in a large are policy framework. here is manage we can assist you

with and put on the table and help you move forward with it. there are some city this is have done it. not that it is not done but not a broad policy. because of the upon difference in thes development patterns. it is -- you don't have alost develop enemy all of the areas and not necessary low the thing they will focus on. >> right >> you often hear lots of development and popping lagz is growing. i lastly google's campus you know, that's like a minicity. right. >> yea. and south bay stuff is differentful we are to think different low about the policy. . you know in the larger development areas in the south bay than at the back to the san mateo thing. there are difference in development patterns across the

counties. i'm expecting through strategy work as we have done before, broad policies what we can support all the agencies adopting. . fito make it work for them. tell work if it works for them that highlights that issue. >> i think that is correct. this needs to be a policy. and another thing i noticed was -- not a lot of point in here on -- demand. which i think on sight fallos the category as you and i have spoken about. legality of focus on supply. not a lot on demand. and i don't want to go down a path of we have to do more conversation and efficiency. i really 19in a broad sense of what is our demand strategy. how can we switch a bit tong about demand as something we influence and change and work

on? does not show up here, obviously. not surprising. but surprising at the same time. considering you have people at the table who potential low like pacific talked about this. you know. so. i was of surpriseed see that in addition to again like the bubbles are great. but these bubbles then my team was doing that study 10 years ago was not the same. >> of course. >> and there is never anything new. but i matter of can they look at it in a different light. that was what this was about in my mind was we all have experienced something more. in the left 10 years. >> things have changed. >> yes. and so and boska stepped up and said let's have the learning are collaborative discussions and figuring out what needs to

happen to break through that. and part of that is to be honests reliability of the supply and the questions about it. they also have to balance investments with when they get from you and everything else. it is00ue know i would life to think an easy picture. am biit is more complicated than that. but the conversations happening and i think the timing with your alternate strategy work and our strategy 2045 will have a more robust conversation about it. and you know as far as the demand, i think we should talk about that more. i mean >> conversation and that's fully baked in everything. there is no data about that and on site reuse. you know to tell the officials in the service area hay can adjust demand. have to approve all the housing. i don't know that is necessary low what we want to do.

that's a careful conversation. >> to your point, we wanted to different shape with let's stop housing because we got more demand to actual demand strategy this is different nothing to do with no more housing attitude. often people talk about how demand preponder ligsz is a driver of demand. which is in the true. >> and it is in the true for our investments for future liability that is in the population growth. >> that's [inaudible] and resiliency. so -- i tell that to my board this is in the investment to deal with population growth. we have our liability issue with the current supply and need to invest to make it better. thank you very much.

appreciate it. >> can we have public comment? member who is wish to comment on item 5, press star 3 to raise your hand. you will hear a chime when there are 30 educational backgrounds remaining. are there members present to provide comment on item 5? do we have callers with hands raised? >> we have one caller. >> thank you. >> caller you have 2 minutes. >> thank you, brad, we'll miss you. modify a future in radio important. thank you this . is peter i'm the policy director for the tuolumne river trust i anticipate in the the roej nal round table and thought it was a good process and appreciated the upon opportunity to participateful i wanted to acknowledge this boska did a

good job with their water demand and conversation projections update. released the end of 2022. what i appreciated about it and review today again. is included a sensitivity analysis that locked at how my population and job growth impact demand. water rate and conversation and climate change example there were 5 different scenario. one locked at the outside envelope. which is what the urban water management plan, planning for. but -- also looked at useings california department of finance population growth projections instead of just planned bay area. and -- population might nol not being be the only driver butt biggest driver. right now partner of finance a few weeks ago came out with

projections and they believe the populations of san francisco and san mateo will decrease. and nice to have information about that. will and may be a plan. because if the demand is lower we will spread out the 6 costs among the custody commerce when we want to avoid is over investing in expensive alternative water supplies we may not need. i encourage the puc to follow examples and electric at scenario now it it is out put for demand. we need weekends. [inaudible]. there are no other callers.

>> public comment on item 5 is closed. >> thank you. read the next item. >> item 6 consent calendar. any comments, questions, related consent calendar in >> can we have public comment on this, please in members of the public when wish to comment on item 6 the consent calendar, press star 3 to speak. members present to provide comment on consent? do we have callers with hands raised? there are no callers at this time. >> thank you. public comment on item 6 is closed. thank you. colleagues if there are no questions can i have a motion and second to pass the items on

consent. >> move to approve consent. >> second. >> thank you, a roll call. >> president ajami. >> aye. >> requirement maxwell. >> aye. >> commissioner stacy. >> aye. >> thank you. the items are approved. can we -- yea. call the next item. >> item 7 approve the amendment 5 to contract 1408 multipar cost share for the reservoir expansion project planning with alameda county flood control and water conversation district zone 7. and contra costa and east bay district. utility district. grass land water. the [inaudible] water authority. santa clara valley water district and [inaudible] reservoir joint powers authority

to increase the amount 8 million dollars. the san francisco opinion puc commission not to exceed 31 million dollars of which 4 million would be the total not to exceed commission. 5 years 4 months >> steve richie assistant general manager for water the expansion project increase the capacity of the reservoir and contra costa by 115,00080 are feet is learning are than the capacity of cal varace. the planning on going since 2016ful you heard wore one of 8

agents participating in the planning process. we share equal low in the expenses of the planning phase. this project is one of the projects evaluated in our alternative water supply plan and anticipated the commission need to make a decision in early of 24 regardingor anticipation in the project or not. the action before you today is amendment to the planning phase agreement. this is the fifth amendment to the agreement bring the total for planning phase to 22 million dollars. which is on parwith planning for this project. and with other projects. our share of this amendment is about 1.3 million dollars. alcohol bring our participation in the planning phase to 4.6 million dollars. we recommend approval of the further of participation and anticipation of the project decision that will need to be made early next year. >> happy to answer questions. i have one edit to recommend to the resolution that can be after

the questions. are you confident everything will be planned and red at that time in >> well, one of the this project is interesting in this because of the number of agencies involved, it is one of the more complex projects we have been looking at. on the other hand, it is also driven by the potential to get state grant funding and federal fwrnt it pay. those have push third degree project rapidly. we are current in the process of negotiating agreements for this project, i think some are in the alternative water supply plan. the -- real big one is the service agreement. that would be agreement between san francisco and the other parties the joint power's authority on how will we get

water in and water out. how tell be operate how much do we pay that set of things. this agreement is driven by many other smaller agreements that are negotiated now. so, this is a complex project but the schedule pushed to try to take advantage of the available grant money part of the topic earlier. grant money is a big deal in this. >> your answer is? my answer is, we will know as much we will know and there will be a press to make a decision and i think we will number a position of make the decision with a lot of information but uncertainty. >> your answer is cautiously yes. >> yes. i will say cautiously yes and i reserve the right to change my opinion boy that time to cautiously no. and we will give it to you. thank you. >> and mr. richie?

we are you mention in the early 24 and i'm thinking you know, that's soon. >> right. and list is long. yes. >> so i'm worning like how much of this has been doneful how much has not been done and -- and -- to be honest i could in the figure out in this. how that list altered from the previous version of this we have approved. i had a list these other like -- topics areas that they will work on, right? that tasks that are going to be under taken under this project? and it does in the say which once are new versus which ones are already in the process? i could not figure out where is this money going.

>> none are new they are anticipated just that the -- need to put down the detail and make a decision become evermore the driver of this. and so -- people are i hate to say getting serious now. >> and that means the more serious the more questions the more questions the more work it takes. there are challenges in giving the agreements done. no question about that. but i think the -- decisions become more role for people. which is why there needs to be the investment until we get to the finish line with the agreements >> and i i locked you know than i are in the -- we po fish everterrible low get 40,00080 are feet and the capacity is 115? that is about like 35%. >> correct and there are 8 of us. i wonder how we had a big are

chunk of the pie. i'm curious about the division process. one year we may get 40,000 in there and everybody needs to decide how much the allocation will be. i wonder upon where is this -- conversation. >> the process has prosecute seed. people have been asciiing asked for how much do you want knowing we have 115,00080 are feet total. some are more well defined others less. we i think start 20,00080 are feet and 40,000 acre feet within the time frame. others have increased and others decreased a bill it was never a formal bidding process. it was lit irrelevant how much do you want given this size? we have settled on a variety of numbers. even those will not be done until people sign on the dotted line >> and imagine tomorrow we'll

build and -- does that mean if we have it we have a big are allocation or our sort of wish list is larger. does it money we pay more. >> yes how much capacity you buy in for us and we can go in the project in more detail and briefing sessions for the commissions there are, let of details involved here. biin our case that 40,00080 are feet is driven by we are looking for dry year supply. how much upon we can 40,00080 are feet but will not get this much if we hold it in the reservoir waiting for a drought. that evaporation will e eliminate some of this. the questions for everybody is exactly how the operation will occur we finish we have court,00080 are feet in there can we get 40,00080 are feet out

or that is left of our share over a period of time. >> and -- as simple as that may sound it is in the simple. >> it is not. yes. >> i'm assuming thinking going in how we. also uncertainty. we don't know what will happen? >> one big question is you know as with all reservoirs and other people's residence requires they get down in dry years you refill. who gets their share of the refill first. many, many years ago i worked on cal stem. it is very much run by historical data is new that has a climate data input as their

operational. when you dot modeling? or deputy on historical river flows and --. the work in cal stem and in the i can't recall the federal projects model. those have been evolving over time they are -- continuing to improve. and i don't think i remember when i worked on them in the 90's. every modeling run people say, yea got these result and found another we fixed. fixing all the time of models are models. >> yes. >> they all got better. but they still don't have all the answers you have to exercise judgment on top of it. >> okay. thank you. i appreciate that if there are no more can we have opinion comment on this item? >> yes. sorry, i think you want.

>> person technical detail. on page 2 of the item well is a list of where as's. of the resolution there are a lips the fifth should be deleted. it is a partial duplicate of the eighth where as should remain in the resolution as is. it is a complete ceqa finding where as the earlier one was the error that got in there. thank you to commissioner stacy for catching that. >> thank you. >> okay. >> okay. so we would like to delete where as amendment 5 does not continue a project under california vipiral quality act guidelines. section 15. 378. because there would be no physical change in the environment. >> yea. >> yes and where as number 8

starts with this line and continues with more appropriate detail. >> okay perfect. can we are public comment. thank you mr. richie. >> members of the public when wish to ment on item 7, press star 3 to speak. speakers will hear a chime when there are 30 seconds remaining. good afternoon. nicole. i want to express support for the proposed recommend staff action on this important project. thank you very much. >> thank you. anyone else present? do we have callers? we have one caller. i unmuted you you have two

minutes. >> thank you. peter, tuolumne river trust. i don't have a problem with this project based on environmental concerns. and some of my colleagues feel it is the better projects proposed. i do question whether it is is a wise investment. i don't think we'll need the water. but more importantly, there will be regulations related discharge from wastewater to the bay that caused the blooms last and this summer. and when makes sense to in the process of renightifiying the wastewater and recycling and using it. if that is something you will have to do one way or the other, it might off set the benefits of the project. so, i encourage to you electric

at this as a multibenefit opportunity for the wastewater recycling versus [inaudible]. thank you. >> there are no other callers. public ment on item 7 is closed. >> thank you. colleagues can i have a motion and second to approve this item as amended? >> move to approve. >> >> roll call >> president ajami. >> aye vice president maxwell. >> aye yoochl commissioner stacy. >> aye. >> excellent. hopefully the last time we will see this before we approve the project. >> can we have the next item.

>> item 8 has been pull friday the agenda. as announced. next is item 9. authorize a gm recommend the director of property execute a certificate of acceptance to accept 780 are parcel, block lot 98, 8928001 no cost to the puc for the future site of the new treasure island wastewater treatment plant approve the transfer and authorize a 66 year lease with the treasure island development authority. 3 acres comprising a portion of lot 896002 not cost for the future development of wetlands to the treasure island treatment plant for the final stage of wastewater treatment. >> may have the slides? >> thank you. why good afternoon,

commissioners president ajami. i'm here to seek approval of the real estate transaction and agreements necessary to construct the new treasure island wastewater treatment plant. a baptist history. treasure i lands is man-made island constructed in 1937 on a submerged rocky out cropping of yerba buena. in the 40s during world war ii the united states navy took ownership and established naval station treasure island operated until 1993 when selected for closure. it was close in the 97 and the california state legislator credited the treasure island development authority tida. tida responsible for the reuse and redevelopment of the island the navy quick climbed to tida. similarly the california land's commission jurisdiction over portions of treasure i land granted the interests to tida as

trustee. and now tida implementing the treasure island/yerba buena development project. dieda's responsible for all the utility on treasure island including wastewater until new prushth is constructed and accepted by the city. the puc functions as a contract operator through an annual agreement and provides maintenance services for the existing wastewater faty sillity. treatment plant was built by the navy over 50 years and not capable of meeting the needs of the future development puc designing and constructing a now wastewater treatment plant. new pleasant is composed of 2 components the main the treatment plant itself. which will treat and disinfect the water for discharge and produce recycled water for uses

on the island such as irrigation. the second component are wet lands which are the final stage before discharge. these would be constructed adjacent to the pleasant and function as a public amenity and wildlife habitat which is important to the item. >> in 2017, the puc and toyeda negotiated a memorandum of understanding to govern the development of the plant. the mo uconn templayed the general framework for the real estate agreements necessary and include a fee transfer where the pleasant would be constructed and conveyance of interests of the area where the wet lands to be constructed. the mou and the real estate conveyances approved by the board of supervisor in 2017 and

no further board action would be required for the transactions. now you may question where the 2 areas would not be included as a single parcel. to be coni haved to the puc and fee. that is because combr and combr treasure lieshgsand constructod submerged land. sovereign lands owned by the public and in trust for the people. and they ever under the jurisdiction of the state land's commission to be used for limited purposes usually water department like commerce, navigation, fisheries, environmental will, preservation and recreation. the state land's commission as an interest in preserving these lands in trust as much as possible. and the trust can only be terminated under certain circumstances. in the case of treasure island

where the proposed development is not consistent with the trust. tide and the land's commission negotiated a trust exchange lift it from the areas of the island where nonconsistentant uses are proposed. and in exchange impprinted the trust on areas of yerba buena not intended to be developed. in the case of the water treatment plant pleasant is in the trust it serves nontrust properties the wet lands a public amenity and wildlife happen at that time are consistent with the trust that's why i that were play this remains under the trust. unfortunately the wastewater treatment plant was not guilty part of original trust exchange with tida and the state land's commission. over the last year, tida worked

with the state to include the parcel in the exchange. this will remove trust from the treatment plant and tidal be able to quick claim it to the puc free of the public trust. all of the work related both the trust exchange and the quick claim is complete and subject to your approval and receipt of the certificate of acceptance by city's director of property tida cord nay the closing of the trust exchange and immediately record the quick claim to the city through the puc. there will be no cost to the puc for the transfer of property. >> the wet lands remain subject to the trust. and tida as the state's trustee the landlord. tida and puc staff negotiated the lease with the 66 year term the max allowed under the public trust. under the lose the puc use the

property during the first 5 years as staging for the construction of the treatment plant. but for the rest of the term may be useda wetlands and well is in cost to the puc for use of the land. >> ceqa. the final environmental impact report yerba buena redevelopment certifyod april 21 of 20 lane. eir a yes or no description of the future wastewater plant. in 2019 after the puc had advanced plan and design the city planning reevaluated the updated design and determine third degree no substantial changes were made to the project. and this commission adopted the ceqa findings. >> my colleague, who is the project manager on this project are available if you have

questions. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner stacy. >> thank you. thanks for presentation. it is is excite to see this moving forward i continue is complicated both legally as well as the project itself and complicated. i -- went become and locked at all the ceqa documents and looked at the mitigation monitoring program and saw there are fairly there are a lot of construction mitigations. and i understand that if -- you issued a notice to proceed and i assumed that the puc is now taking responsibility to make sure all of those mitigation measures are implemented. i know that the puc has a great system for monitoring all of the mitigation measures? >> good afternoon, project

manager. thank you, commissioner stacy for this question. it is correct. we are we ended yesterday. true benefit of design build condition transact you all approved late last december am where we can start construction while if any the final design. it it is true, we issued notice to proceed terror construction yesterday. we are already implementing all the mitigation measures. storm water prevention plan, air quality and noise and construction best practices. >> great, thank you. it is say irrelevant exciting project. with the wet lands component and recycling component. i'm really excited see it under way and will be interested to see it as it develops. thank you. long and complicated process.

i have a question on the vet land area the fact this is part of the trust impact. the way we use it for you know, for example testing different mechanisms. trying different things in the wet land in the construction wise but how to. i assume00 eye think if i remember a manage wetlands. are there limitation when is we can do in this your that you will potential low rework the trust pos in any ways or means? thank you. as language as it is consistent with the a flount operation and maintenance and sampling protocol list is not an issue with the way we operate the wet land. >> okay. good to know.

what happens after 66 years? of great question. so we don't have the option for option in this lose. well is a 66 year max and that was a question that came up while we were negotiating if we would obviously attempt on renegotiate a new lease. kickoff a new term if this is not possible we would bible to biechgs the wetlands provided we get approval. there is the capable to bypass the wet left lane everland and. can it be the wet lands is a natural system. let's say 66 years passes. we are still utility. they don't want to give us the

interest at this time state land commission. do we have to redirect the [inaudible] or can the [inaudible] and with us in the -- i'm trying it figure out are there things we have to think about 66 years is a long time. time flies. one thing in the wastewater is intentionification of process. there is innovation. our hope there will be better technologies where we is create a high quality of a mrunt zealed no issue bypassing the wet land your i'm counting on technology. >> or the wet land may need that. if you -- operate it that way prebl needs a form of input from the system to beably to stay

alive. 've xhrp in there the management needs to be considered. upon i was thinking about the 380 are wet lands seems with the trust limitations it is seems like a low risk that 3 acre wetland used for anything else. i think so the area around the

treatment lan i'm not sure this is the only area that will be wet lands. yea. this is the area where we will be responsible for it. >> thank you. >> thank you. may be the broad are wet lands next to the and somebody else with the responsible to operate it you never know. right? so -- thank you. if there are no more questions can we have public comment? >> members of the public who wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 9 press star 3 to speak. you will hear a chime had well is 30 seconds remanipulate to speak. do we have members of the public present to provide comment on item 9. >> do we have callers with hands

raised? >> we have no callers wish to be recognized at this time. >> public ment on item 9 is closed. >> thank you. colleagues if there are no questions can i have a motion and second it approve this item? >> i move to authorize the general manager to recommend the certificate of acceptance and to enter the lease for the wet land site. gi second all that. >> thank you can we have roll call. president ajami. >> vice president maxwell. >> aye. >> commissioner stacy. >> aye. >> >> thank you. good luck. keep us posted. can we have the next item >> next is communications item. this is informational only but if there are comments we can always seeing none.

the next item. >> next is general public comment. members when wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment in the commission's jurisdiction not on today's agenda press star 3 to speak. speakers will hear a chime when well is 30 seconds remaining. do we have members of the public present for general public comment? >> okay. >> hello. [inaudible]. i'm sorry. i'm going to have -- my sister and wants to get first i have [inaudible]. i'm sorry. i have a little small video.

but i would like for them to talk first it will be really dynamic you will see my mom. before she passed away. meeting with general -- mr. kelly. he les to my heart and wish he was there. i will dot video after. it is mall. >> okay. good afternoon to all of you. again, i'm tom jones decentent of doctor jackson. bayview not for sale honest orbit her legacy. let 1800 oak land buildings. no. let 1800 oakdale a recommendance and historical landmark where it started with mitigation.

puc broached to the mitigation but in the building education building. college credit course which should include senior programs. free childcare. job training for biosolid sewage treatment and other promise. we here today to whether we have been blind sided. puc, if this is the case, you -- you breech commitment to honor mitigation and we are the community in the decentants of the mitigation and we are not going nowhere. if you decide to demo our building. you telling us here today you partake and wiping out the history and burying our founders. and by doing so is no respect.

thank you. hi. i'm [inaudible] jackson. and will i'm going to speak on the 2 locations on the same comments to the community in direct 10 bay vow hunter's point. it was brought to our attention that the cloeszing down and boarding up and taking away of talking to taking down the building the puc general manager promised doctor jackson, fell and the community the 1800 remain standing as a landmark the first original building the big 6 fought for. 1550 evans the new community center part of it litigation the puc prompted to provide college education. credit course. senior programs. biosolid treatment and job

raining and other resource. community want to see nor m are job training the bay you'll view residents construction opportunity are fine but when the -- construction is over, we are become to the drawing board experience. financial heardship community need to be trained to operate the new facility in the neighborhood we reside and need jobs city jobs and job security. community benefits on we have major construction project in d10, bayview where has the communities benefit been [inaudible] allocated to our community have not received anything. the construction work negligent place in our community are supposed to give community benefits to this community. where has the funding going overnight past 45 years. the communitiments to know and see report. because we are tired of the lip

service and broken promises. we be back for answer doctor jackson family is here to make sure lives on for generations to come. thank you. >> thank you. >> i will look at my sister she remind me of my momively get nervous i will start this. thank you so much. i wanted you to see thank you. then he told me. [inaudible] [inaudible] my mom

was in a coma for 3 weeks. she quail out she did noted know her grand kids. had she came out that coma she

saw mr. holland and the staff and she start talk about this mitigation. i money like you said. you know that was her heart. so -- i wanted let you know how person it was. on right before she passed away and hopper this. because i can speak the community can peek and she can speak for herself and wanted you to say. i wanted to say thank you and the left time i was here the young -- commission say he was going to have a closed session. to see what the building was going to about the i believe it was the -- oh. the staff will

look into this and report become to us. >> okay. >> on the item. that's when we talks about. every conversation we have has to be closed session conversation everything is public you will hear from us. that is soon as we know more and i think -- okay. you have my e mail, right? the form i gave the left time i was here. i think that information is shared and as soon as we have more information about this that will be reported become to this commission and you will have access to it. and yes. >> god bless you all for this opportunity. >> of course. >> means much to me and the community. >> of course. >> was that the everything?

perfect. could i ask. >> so -- unfortunately yes. if you don't mind, thank you. >> could i ask a question. i apologize i don't have aleft history with southeast plant. as i understand it, you are concerned about the educational building and the job training. facilities you said were intend part of the southeast plant development project. is that? the community college courses and um it was on the stay connected and going to -- be a landmark not to take down. because -- like i said, the that is part of the litigation

example when we see that it is nothing going on, when i questions when than i doll it no one can give an answer. may be this is where i need to go or may be to go somewhere else. >> i don't know >> and the site for this -- educational facility is 1800 oakdale? no. they were going to 1550 evans. that was part of the new facility. yea. >> but the new facility supposed to have the educational building. that was part of the litigation. >> okay >> part of the southeast community. >> exactly. where thank you. i was not sure about this 1800 oakdale. that was mentioned at the beginning. >> right. >> because they combined together that's why we talk about temperature when they did the new facility, they forgot

about the educational bodies thanksgiving was promised. >> got it. >> okay. >> thank you. >> okay. >> thank you. all right. >> are there other members. no , i think commissioner maxwell last time as part of the -- the -- items initiated by the commissioners you brought this up and asked for some report back and i'm assuming that is in the press. and will receive this in a moment in the coming meetings that one of the next few. meetings we have. >> there were 4 topics present left time. 1800 oakdale and the educational building and the green house and i asked staff to look into had. it it is in the process and

will -- general manager will be back for working with the commission to schedule when needs to be scheduled. those were the 4 things that left last both with the commission there was an item 8 and 9. all of those together as the 4 items >> if possible it will be grit to make sure when we have the items they report become to us how doctor jackson's family will be informed and horror they can listen on line and able top engage in the process so they have an answer to the questions than i have. and can be involved in the process in in way or another. >> >> thank you. okay. we have other members present for general public comment?

>> do we have callers with hands raised? >> we have one caller wish to be recognized. you have 2 minutes. >> thank you, peter, tuolumne river trust. wanted comment on the water supply conscience update. and i usual low make comment about the supply. this year the puc entitleed water last 12 years. today i wanted comment on deliveries. the demand in the final slide of the report. shows that right now current demand is 221 million dollars gallons per day. which is very low for this time of year the middle of the summer. there is a line on the graph for 20 then and -- the demand during the summer averaged 270 million gallops a day the average was

223. right now on this day we are lower than the average in 2013 which is down from when the lease was approve in the 2008. so -- the demands were to 21 million dollars for the year. there would be enough water in sorage to left more than 5 years if no precipitation we would run out of water in more than 5 years. and in the design upon drought year last year the average deal for the puc is 152 million gallons per day. so -- puc is a good position. you got incredible water rights and below average, average and above average years. and storage demand is way down. and the d. finance projects tell remain in the for the next

decade. so as i asked often, let's look at the issues and my opinion there is no threat to the puc's water supply of meeting the obligations of the bay delta control plan. thank you. >> thank you. there are no other callers. >> thank you. general public comment is closed. >> thank you. can we have the next item. >> the next is 12 items initiated by commissioners. >> colleagues anything you would to initiate. i have 3 things. one is i would like to suggest this we official low think about moving public meant to the top of the agenda. where it used to be. we can i would like to know if either of you have reservations

or -- questions on that in if not? that is one item. no , i don't see any. reservations here. the next item is i attended the citizen advisory communitiee meeting left week it was productive and really great conversation a couple of things came up and i'm glad mr. robinson is here. someone mentioned that -- california constitution code -- has a requirement to select project based on best value selection. and which was not the lowest bid. and i was porned everwonder figure you could look in and let us know what it mean and i do know and recognize that this is something this needs to happen

at the city level and we can't have our own way of project management.this needs to happeny level and we can't have our own way of project management. may be a press we can start here and change the process. the second item is regarding the second item is actually going back to the southeast community center. there was an ask if we can have job fairs there. i was i assumed we do may be we don't. if we don't i wonder if we can look to having a form of job fairs to make sure people know what jobs are open at the puc and potential low apply for. there were information provided to me i shared with madam secretary going to share with

the staff. you know the -- group there and -- that actually helps with job -- search for the community members. and that we can potential low use that service. so -- that was the second one. and the third 1 the fourth one was -- the discussion we had on tida. where the development efforts and treasure island and -- electric issues there was a lot of information coming but not clear. what i garthed from this meeting was tida is exempt from the whole dismanualing of the redevelopment -- efforts that

happen in 2011. they are a stand alone exempt and still responsible. to operate and manage. treasure island. i was not sure -- what how do our rep with them works. what is the sort of the governing body this sort of -- over sees the policy. and governing sort of structure. so -- and through what we can work with them. when it come to this brown out and blackouts that are experiencing. so -- i'm looking at you because i think this falls under your jurisdiction. it would be great if you with look in this more. and have some form of a before formation provided to the commission on this issue and if

there is anything we can do to help navigate the process especially if you are investing small amount of money to do mall bandaid fixes on the systems than i have. rather than making role investments in the system. it makes sense to think about how we can redirect the money to make more changes. >> my understanding was that is held up in the process. some how. so, should i go through the 4 or somebody. so. yes. you are good. i have all 4 items the moving the public comment to the top. cac best value. i'm not sure i think i will meet with stein asked me to do this

the city does have best value construction in our code. i think we should go over with the commission tr is questions about how we contract and a lot of those answers are in our code and available. but we as a city follow city law. we are a charter city and has best value in it already. once we do that i think we will answer the questions that you have more like what is missing or something. on the southeast community center in sprit from the ones we talked about is job fairs and availability and use of that. i think a report on that is going on there. it seems you know yes that is having a but more what is going on is- and the tida with electric. all 4 of those. >> perfect. >> will the best value selection, my understandingeen though it is in the code if everybody foals like okay this is in our code it is working.

we are not doing -- contracts based on based on best values fallos you know -- the lowest bid. >> we will come and report on that. that is not accurate. use best value. there is a disconnect with what we do and what you understanding we are doing we do low bid in s. we do other things best value in other circumstances. we recommend those to the commission and you, pruf that process is opaque to you in a way we mead to be better at letting you know what is going on. we do and you as an agency approve a lot of best value projects. >> the only reason i bring this up is because we have talked about there over and over is that am we have projects this have budget over runs. and issued -- that we are obviously collective low not happy with

that. including a staff. i don't think staff enjoys coming and asking for money to dot same projects. so manage in this process is missing. right? the i have been trying for the past 2 years what is missing? so if this is in the missing we need to find out what is missing. >> we will report back. >> and i think we also need to do a better job of talk with our citizens advise row committee so they are not disconnected that is direct to the citizens. and if than i are disconnected we are in the doing the bestion they should be able to tell their neighbor busy this and when we are ago. >> and i did bring up the fact we are collecting data and trying to do better and figure out when is going on and they were quite excited hear about this. so, i did make sure that i

shared all the effort this is we have been trying to under take in this process and want to make sure i report become on how this thing is perceived and for me i'm like struggling with this issue. as you very well know mr. robinson. you hear mow complaining all the time. if we can fix this problem that would be good. >> so with this i think those are all the items i had can we have public comment on this. >> members of public who wish to comment on items discussed under 12, press star 3 to speak. if you mean will hear a chime had lawyer 30 seconds remaining. do we have anyone present to provide comment on items discussed. >> do we have callers with hands raised? >> we have one caller. >> call are go ahead you have 2

minutes. >> thank you, me again peter tuolumne river trust. thank president ajami recommend this public comment moved to the former spot. that will be a popular with the public. appreciate that. >> thank you for your comments. the queue is clear. >> thank you public comment on 12 is closed. >> thank you. okay so i guess we are not going to have a closed session. >> no. not today. >> with this, we are adjourned. thank you. for force

>> i think there would be a lot more suffering. >> if i imagine san francisco without animal care and control, i know there would be thousands of animals every year who just wouldn't get that chance. whether that means going home with a family, being released in the wild without this concerted thoughtful group focused on all these animals. the big picture view and daily care. so many animals would be lost. >> but i don't think people understand what goes on. they don't know how hard the staff works taking care of animals. >> it is just two people. one upstairs and one downstairs and the cleaning is total, 6, 7ish. one side starts off doing chemical, i close these all off so the dogs can't come

in the back, and then i'm going to spray the back, (indiscernible) >> all the magic to rehome and work with a rescue network and all the medical care and behavioral and enrichment, socialization enrichment, volunteers are amazing. so, i think if i had a waish wish, i wish that san francisco knew more about what we do. >> san francisco animal care and control is a vital part of making sure animals in this community are protected and are cared for. we deal with those domestic and wildlife. one of the primary suction is serve as a shelter. when animals have no where else to go, here is where they come. we take in

about 9,000 animals a year and the care they receive here and the ability to move from here if domestic on to permanent homes somewhere else, or if you are wildlife you come here and we figure which wildlife rehubibitator to send to. that is the shelter aspect. we also have animal control officers who are available from 6 a.m. to midnight. >> ask them to give us a call, that would be great. the number is 415-554-9400, and you can just ask for rebecca. thank you so much. bye. >> we receive approximately 20 thousand calls a year for assistance, so a lot is wildlife rescue, lost dogs, dangerous situations. we also investigate animal abuse,

animal neglect. got a lot going on here. >> without us, there would be a lot more (indiscernible) a lot more animals suffering. who would people call? the police? fire? they have their own jobs and don't have resources or knowledge. they don't know how to help animals. so much hoar suffering. >> we took in 2800 animals last year. without a shelter where do the animals go? i think the community would suffer if we were not here. >> whether living on the street or (indiscernible) animals are very important to people, so we are helping humans also, and we are alleviating a lot of suffering by doing our jobs.

>> bring up person that [laughter]. for me it was we had neighbors growing up that were fold my dad he is raising me wrong for having me pursue the things that are not traditionally female roles. and i think the biggest barrier to anyone in general is when you have cultural norms that make you feel like you can't do something that make you doubt yourself and make you feel you should not be there i don't belong. those other big efbarriers i think that is the thing to focus

on the most is belong everyone should belong here. [music] >> wishing we trained women grow in production. and recording arts and so we have everything from girls night classes for middle and high school girls. we have certification academy program. that would be women and gender [inaudible] adid you tell us. progress in the internship frm program where they are working in the studios. they are helping to mentor the youth in the youth programs and the job place am component. most of the time we hire interns instructors in our programs and

engineer in our studios here. we have conferences we do all overnight country and we have concerts that we feature bay area women and gender artists. [music] [music] >> an education forward organization. and so advocacy organization. dedicated to closing the gender gap and the audio and production industries. >> started out of the lead answer, why is there a critical gender gap in this industry that

started at city college. why are there so few in this

class i was ashamed i did not have the answer being a feminist. why have i never thought of this i have been in the industry for decades and why have i accept today of all people. it was out of that and unraffling it. actually started the infernship last fall and just fell in love with all the things about women's oshg mission because we are diverse and so many aspects of audio i did not know and i feel like eyes opened up and i gained a lot of confidence in myself and other fells and queer people in the industry i felt there was more connection and community. ironically my time in the industry is all pretty good. i think what happened is i was raised by a father who is an engineer. i was comfortable being strounlded by men all the time in his lab i was used to technology. when i got in industry my mentors were men and i saw i had a unique importance that got mow in the place i could be fluent and navigate something difficult and it was the norm for me. what if it was not woman was createed provide it for everybody. have this environment you are surrounded by technology and people that are going to support you and get you in this industry in a good way. i have been interested in audio i was never trained in music took piano when i was a kid. i never pursued it because not a lot of women doing that. and my family is not musically inclined. when i want to davis the first

time i took a music class there were few females in the class. like a rodey for my dayed was load you will the mixers and monitors and the giant speakers and gigs and help run out the cables and take things down and set up mics i did all of that growing up and never occurred to mow that that was a field they could at all. and then one i could pursue i didn't nobody else was doing temperature my dad and then i go with him to studios and see -- the men in the studio. dj for 5 years now and comments you get like wow you are a girl dj that is crazy. that is wild. and i have great moments where it does not happen.

and they treat me like easy. telling mow what to do they correct mow in ways that make me feel less i sprjs the opposite and i notice hand's on like you don't know what you are doing rather than asking me. not consistent times it happens. it is like when i talk to other females they are like say the same things it is like funny i know that nice men don't experience tht main thing triggers me when i experience different treatment and that happens a lot in the audio world. industry is changing slowly. there is still that issue making the places that are places belonging for everybody. i don't think so. having a studio where it is not all run by white men like most

studios. the studios are only in the word built and run by women. it has been super normalize thered are opportunity for girls and nonbinary people. you go in school and middle and high schoolers know that this is a field. this is a thing there are many jobs you can have in this field. some producing pod casts to setting up live shows. there are so many things you can do >> wee go in and teach the audio skills and give them equipment. i pads and then teach them how to make music and they get to come in here and will getting the tools to people who don't have t. that is really important to me. that's why i was like wow. i want to be there for other fell and queer people who don't have the opportunity and also to be a mentor for them to really push them to experiment and not

going to break it. does not matter if it sounds bad that is the point to try it. i think it is the goal to see confidence what they are doing and passionate and asking for hymn and excite body learning and excited about making music and it changed my life to realize i'm callented in the field i can make music without being trained to it it is amazing to be able to be part of that process and -- ushering women to the field. we can entirely transform how -- the technology part of what you hear every day. we can put xhg something in women's points of view in this every time. it affects the store and he messaging. think our best example is how we

transformed an entire city. place that major artists on tour one of the men looks likeip don't get it there are woman every where i go and the person was like you are in san francisco. you like oh , you are right it is here. most venues have graduates we are grateful to the city for that reason because than i supported us at the beginning. following your curiosity and interest and don't let anybody get in the way what is presented to you, go for t. no matter what! we are here for a reason. find what it is. don't let somebody else tell you what it is. you are the oldsmobile one that have been can know when you are supposed to do. go do it. complaints and

not (indiscernible) that concludes today's overview. thank you for your time. >> what happens after a complaint is submitted? when dpa receives a complaint, the first step is it to assign it to a investigator. if the complainant provides contact information, they receive a letter telling them knoo they assigned investigator will be. if the complaint is submitted anonymously they will not receive further contact from dp. >> what happens when dpa finds a police miscucktd? >> the dpa find misconduct, meaning sustain a complaint, the next step is to determine how serious the misconduct is and what discipline the dpa

will request (indiscernible) the dpa does not itself impose discipline and can only recommend discipline in a sustained case. >> what happens if a complaint turninize to a chief nonnob >> if the dpa decides to recommend 10 days suspension or less, the chief of police is the final determner of both whether misconduct occurred, and if the chief agrees misconduct occurred, what the disciplineitary penalty will be. in those cases if the chief disagreewise dpa, the case is over and dpa does not have any recourse. if the chief decides that misconduct occurred, and to impose discipline, an officer has a right to a hearing before that decision is final. >> what happens if a dpa complaint turns into a

commission level case? >> if the dpa determines a 11 day suspension all the way up to termination is the appropriate outcome for a misconduct case, a trial is held in front of the police commission. normally, one commissioner presides over the trial, then the entire commission will read the transcript and vote. if the commission determines misconduct occurs, then the commission also determines what the penalty will be. if you are stopped by a police officer you should follow the officer direction, keep calm, keep still, and do not make sudden movements do not reach for anything, especially in your pockets, keep your hands visible at all times. you have the right to remain silent. this means you do not have to say anything. tell the officer i want to remain

silnts. you have a right to a attorney. tell the officer i would like a attorney. if you are arrested do not talk about your case or immigration status to anyone other then your attorney. do not sign anything without your attorney. do not lie to law enforcement officers and if you are property are being searched make sure i do not consent to the search. do not challenge the officer, you can file a complaint about police services later, if you are not comfortable speaking english you can ask for a bilingual officer who speaks your language and also ask for a interpre i'm anthony i'm owner of scoop ice cream in the bayview. >> the environment sit down environment to enjoy a bananasplit. root beer floot. shake, et cetera . just creating that environment for people to come and enjoy.

they can experience this is cultural driven. we pretty much replicate what our culture means in the bayview. >> a back story me and my siplings my aunt took us out for ice cream all the time. spend hours eating ice cream and talking and catching up with friends and family of came with an idea. why don't you bring the ice cream shop back has not been one here in a time since the 90's. i thought it would be good to bring something back to a community where i grew up and something with me in business community. my fate is the apple pie flavor made from french cashew milk it is vegan.

homemade cashew milk and cocoa nut milk. apples upon cinnamon and nutmeg and create a great desert. my great grand mother made it from scratch. made ice cream for kids in the neighborhood and made different flavors. sugar free and dairy free. got passion to do it being here in the community and from my family. >> who doesn't love cable cars? charging emissions and we're free which we're proud of you know, it's not much free left in the world anymore so we managed to do that through donations and through our gift shops. you got a real look and real appreciation of what early transit systems are like. this was the transit of the day from

about 1875 to about 1893 or later, you know. cable car museum is free, come on in. take a day. come down. rediscover the city. you can spend as time you want and you don't have to make reservations and it's important to be free because we want them to develop a love for cable cars so they do continue to support whether they live here or other places and people come in and say, yes, i have passed by and heard of this and never come in and they always enjoy themselves. people love cable cars and there's none left in the world so if you want to ride a cable car, you've got to come to san francisco. that what makes the city. without the cable cars, you lose part of that, you know, because people who come here and they love it and they love the history ask they can ride a cable car that has been running since 1888 or 1889. wow! that's something. can't do that with other historical museums. rarely, have i run into anybody from outside

who didn't come in and didn't feel better from knowing something about the city. it's a true experience you'll remember. i hope they walk away with a greater appreciation for the history, with the mechanics with people are fascinated by the winding machine and i hope the appreciation, which is a part of our mission and these young kids will appreciate cable cars and the ones who live here and other places, they can make sure there will always be cable cars in san francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. it's the heartbeat of san francisco that founded the cable and the slot and without the cable cars, yeah, we would lose something in san francisco. we would lose part of its heart and soul. it wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing]