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in the bottom left corner select your language. >> good upon afternoon. we are here for a virtual town hall regarding an officer shooting that occurred on monday august 28, 2023. on the 300 block of jones street. before proceeding for the audience this town hall is translate in the spanish, cantonese, vietnamese and american sign language or asl for our community who speak those languages. >> without judgment on the appropriateness of the force use in the this incident the presentation will include ketails from officer shooting incident this wounded 54 year

old richard everett. i like to express condolences to him and his family members. >> in the san francisco police department we recognize that our sworn duty as law enforcement and poses no solum and obligation on us to honor life. we also know that has police officers, we are sometimes required use force including deadly force at time in the performance of our duties. we recognize, too, that officer shootings can have a traumatic affect on members of our communities especially for individuals this families and loved onces suffer traumas and encounters with the justice system where it may be. today, any viewers experiencing trauma prosecute this incident or the information or images we'll present during this town hall, than help is visible to

you. you micontact the san francisco department of crisis line 4 felony-970-3800 for trauma services. >> here is had we hope to pleasure today. first, the san francisco police department aseration to be a national model of 21st policing. we w toern trust by commit to transparency and the tenants of procedural justice. and this process, and this town hall presentation. procedural justice depends on the police as well as our entire xhinl justice system. we work to embody the tenants of what procedural justice is all about. we will release the facts known at this time about this incident. we will codid so neutral. we will answer questions from members and the news media and

we will listen to public feedback. acting commanding officer mark m will present the facts of this case. before that, i want to emphasize this in this dints, subject to multiple inspect and on going violation. as such, there may be information we cannot release at this time. either because the release of information is prohibited by law or because the release of certain information could comp nooiz myself abinvestigation. or facts were not established. we are not able to release unconfirmed information. next. acting commander's presentationville an anywheretive of the facts weez know them as well as audio and video content from the officer shooting incident.

upon sfpd officers wearing department body cameras which were activated while they were on their way to the incident. consistent with our body worn policy. department general order 10.11 you will see body camera or bwc videos from those officers from multiple perspectives. at the san francisco police department our commitment to transparency guided our shooting investigations and town halls for years now. although our practices predate many police transparency luin california, we believe that our approach has remained upon consistent with the letter and spirit of reforms implemented by senate bill 1421 for police transparency and bill 150 sick for accountability. sfpd commitment to transparency will be reflect in the release

of information online. videos from this town hall including audio from 911 calls and dispatchers and video footage i mentioned will be posted sfpd's website at san francisco police. org. it will remain available for public viewing. as a reminder, all of will sfpd policies and procedures can be found on our website. san francisco police department director mandate release the names of officers from shootings unless safety argue against it. inform this matter, we identified no safety concerns and acting command are mark m will release the names of officers part of his presentation. i would like to explain the investigative process for an officer involved shooting next. san francisco has a multiagency response to officer involved shooting.

each agency investigations is independent when an upon officer involved shooting happens involving on duce san francisco police officer the agencies are notified. s eversfpd investigative services in unit responsible for investigating the events this is lead up to the officer involved shoot nothing this case the activity investigated a report of a man threatening people with a knife and the s leading up on the shooting the internal affairs division responsible for conducting an investigation to determine if the officer or officers are responsible for the ois in compliance with requirement of sfpd policy. alternate investigation of both sfpd units run parallel, each has an investigative purview and focus. each maintains a strict fire

with you to comply with standards and requirements. the san francisco department of police account act or dpa, conducts an independent investigation. san francisco voters created dpa successor to the office of citizen complaints. with passage of prop b and the june 2016 legislation. investigates all incidents which officers discharge a weapon in the scope of duties and when that discharge result in individual's injury or death. the san francisco da's office independent investigation bureau is responsible for determining the legality of the officer involved shooting. based on their inspect investigation, the da of the county of san fran will make final decision as to whether the officers action complied with

the laws of the state of california. all notified agencies, dispatch, investigator and personnel to begin their inspect investigation. finally, i like top point out that we take community feedback seriously. based on feedback from prior shooting town howls we'll take questions and answer them to the extent we are able. understanding that this incident remains an on going investigation. we will allocate an hour for public comment and questions. thank you very much for joining us and now acting common lawed are mark m. >> officer shooting discuss in the this presentation started on monday, august 28, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.

the call for service was regarding a person with a knife. the call started on the sidewalk in front of an apartment building located on the 300 block of jones street in san francisco's tenderloin neighborhood. this incident involved patrol officers of the san francisco police department and assigned tenderloin police station. in this presentation, you will hear the following terminology and radio code language used by officers. . calls for service involving incidents. emergency call this is require a rapid response buzz there may be a threat to life or a risk of major property, loss or damage. >> body worn camera. c it is crisis intervention training. code 3 is radio code for response with emergency lights and siren. >> code 3 is radio code emergency clear the radio

channel. containment keep a subject inspect boundaries. dispatch the d. emergency management dispatcher and radio communication system. impact weapon a less lethal force opgdz to deploy a bean bag or 40 foam baton. eriw's designed to [inaudible] an individual. an receive deploying that shall have a cover officer. disis often referred to back or dakking. the difference with discharging it and department issued firemans. >> line in the sand a training concept taught in departments critical mind set sponse course.

>> it is a predetermined boundary a subject guess past force used to keep the subject contained. public safety statement is information obtained by supervisor from a member who utilized lethal force in a shooting. questions are intended determine the existing threats to public safety and identify evidence that must be preserved. the skoecht statement is limited to the collection of critical, floating information in the aftermath of the incidents. >> it is the department's policy to deactivate cameras before obtaining safety statements the policy instructless the supervisor to reminds the member not to discuss it further at the scene. red light intent to deploy eriw. specialist team a special unit

often referred to specks. within the special prescription's bureau. kisting of patrol officers trained in responding to high priority crimes in progress. >> ambulance. . and 1098 is code for enroute to new location. following is a sum row of the 70s understood today and urth information learned throughout investigation. >> remains under investigationment times presented are a proximate. many of the actions below occurred simultaneously. word of caution. there is profanity and graphic image in this presentation. as of thursday. september 7 of twe we believe the facts are as follows. >> 10:22 p.m. the department of emergency manage admit

dispatched officers from tenderloin station to a call for service and in a 222 person with a knife. 911 call are reported a person who was identified as mr. richard everett with a large knife threatening people on jones street. call are stated, i got a guy with a knife threatening people. got a big knife and somebody tried pep are spay him he is on the sidewalk and threatening people walking by. dispatcher described him a black mein 50s we'ring a red plaid shirt and holding a foot long knife. the dispatcher stated that per call are somebody riding a scooter attempted pepper spray him.

they were c it traind and responding with eriw. the first spngd officer, number one arriveod scene 3 minutes after the 911 call dispatched. >> additional responding receives arrived and parked vehicles on both sides of him at a safe difference to contain and isolate him >> officers used vehicle spot lights to e eliminate mr. everett and better visibility of the area >> number one benched mr. everett on jones holding a knife consistent with the information provided. >> officer number 1 directed a group of people near him to lead the area. >> gave commands to mr. everett to put the knife down. at 10. . 27 p.m., 15 seconds after,

arriving on scene, officer number one requested an ambulance to stage near by. >> officer number one said, sir, we are not here to hurt you, okay we gotta figure out what is going on. we can't dom this until you put the knife downful put it down. mr. everett responded almighty god gave me this knife, no. >> officer number one continued to community with mr. everett asking why he would not put knife down. 10:28 p.m. sergeant number one arrived took control of the scene. sergeant number one establishes rows for officers including a main communicator. eriw officers, lethal cover officers and arrest team. sergeant number one requested specialist officers to respond and directed them on clear the

block for the public's safety. >> responding officers blocked the sidewalks to prevent pedestrian access to the area and asked she saids assist with containing mr. everett. >> officer number 2 attempted community saying, what is wrong, sir, why do you have a knife, why don't you put it down and you can talk you to. >> mr. errate policed the knife in his waste band confrom view. officer 2 said, if you your handses up now. put your hands up see your freehands, free handses. put it on your head. >> mr. everett shook his head from side to sides and took the knife and thelled by his side. officer one said, don't do this . don't do this. >> simultaneously officer 2

pointed his eriw at mr. everett. at 10:30 p.m. officer 3 attempted develop a dialogue with mr. everett saying, hay, man, what is your name? mr. everett replied, i don't have a name. >> officer 3 philidelphia up by asking, how can we help you? >> mr. everett said, i don't want your help. >> officer 3 told mr. everett. you are freaking people out you are walking around with a knife >> don't fuck with me. >> officer 3 told mr. efet. okay, people are scared. you are scaring people. >> mr. everett responded, i mean if they are scared they are supposed to be if they are fucking with me. >> officer 3 said to mr.

everett, nobody is fucking with you. >> mr. everett responded, i am letting them finish that fuck with me i will take it out. i didn't do nothing to nobody. i didn't do nothing to you. i didn't do nothing. >> sergeant 1 asked assistance from a person claiming he knew mr. everett this . aquaintance referred to mr. everett as jer-ne well la. the a quaintance said jerry, louisiana what is going on? mr. everett acknowledged and replied, i'm letting them know if than i fuck with me i will pull it out. >> aquaintance stated. gnaw they ain't going to fuck you you gotta put the knife down. the aquaintance said, yea he stayos the street he is loose,

loosey goosey. sergeant 1 communicated with mr. everett saying, louisiana, we are hear to help you, man. all the people are here for you that's it we want to get you help you can take your knife with you we want to take you to the hospital but now we want to help you, that's it. >> at 10. . 39 p.m. officer 4 attempted community with mr. everett. officer 4 asked him, can we have you put the knife down and i can talk with you. >> mr. everett said, i'm not going to put my knife on the ground almighty god gave me this knife >> mr. everett was holing the comboif and in his waste bands area. at 10:40 p.m. 15 minutes after officers arriveod scene. mr. everett picked up i bag and

meal crate. he began walking northeast on jones from the west side toward the middle of the street. with this right hand he pulled a knife from his waste band. mr. everett moved toward the officers. with his left handled he held the milk krit and duffle become in front his face. with the right hand mr. everett raised the knife and swung it continuing to move toward the officers. multiple officers yelled, red light. dak, dak him. >> 4 officers used 4s in this order. officer number 5 deployed eriw. officer 2 deployed an eriw. officer 3 discharged his firearm. officer 4 discharged his department issued fireman. multiple officers yelled.

shots fired. and quote, dromotropic knife. as mr. everett fell to the ground. officers formed an arrest team and app hendzed mr. everett lying on his stomach. mr. everett's knife was on the ground next to his right hand. officers observed the knife was tieed his wrist with a belt. one stated t. is tieed his hand. officers were able to remove the knife from him. officers cuffed him and rendzers aid. san francisco fire department med makes staged near enter the scene at 10:flo, 2 minutes after they took over medical care. medics took him to a local hospital. mr. everett is in police custody. the suspect. the suspect's name is richard everett. date of birth june 9, 1969.

evidence. crime scene investigators from the stan san francisco forensic service responded and collected physical evidence from the scene. including but not limit to the following. . one fixed blade knife 8.5 inch. 7 cart randling casings, 6eiw shells. and 6eiw bean bags. video footage and photographs. receives on scene were wearing department issued cameras which were activate in the route to the incident and recorded the events as they unfolded. other video footage or photographs can be provided to the san francisco da's inspect investigation bureau or iib using the following number. 628-652-4420. witnesses and victims.

eyewitness were interviewed by the police department's investigative service detail. and the san francisco da inspect investigation bureau. any other witnesses are encouraged to contact the san francisco da inspect investigation bureau at 628-652-4420. involved members. the of sfpd officers discharged weapons are, officer gabriel ortega 2741. and officer russell lushia. 2490. bottle are patrol officers assigned to tenderloin station. training. the officers discharged department firearms completed crisis intervention training in 2020 known as the threat assessment upon de~esque ligz strategy.

officers received the threat assessment strategy training have completed a 10 our california peace officer standards and training or post course prepares them to respond to person in crisis and as a team formulated plan am repore and tactics including tactical repositioning. containment and time and distance when possible to resolve person in crisis incidents. can jury room today's presentation is provide immediate a multimedia formachlt after effort to have a transparent perspect you have of this incident the sfpd provide audio from the 911 call. body worn video footage. crime seen investigation photos, map s and related visual aids. our presentation today consists of known video and audio at this time. but not intended provide all

photos and, videos or testimony information related this investigation. i will april vied i presentation of the incident using the multimedia source. select pins to increase clarity, certain videos have been enhance to allow a better understanding of the incident. note, this present agdz the videos and unedited vos on the sfpd website follow thanksgiving how often hall. pottses can be located on the sfpd website. prior to the beginning firefighter each segment i will provide a description to or yenlt the vowtory time, place and location of the content about to be shown. you are about to see video footage and learn about other evidence related this case so you have an understanding of

what occurred based upon what we know now. we are in the early stages of an investigation. this can take months to complete and our understanding of the ins upon dent may change as evidence is collected and reviewed. we don't draw conclusion whether the rate of speed acted consistent with our policies and the luuntil all the facts are known and the investigation is complete. word of caution. the images and information you are about to see and hear may be disturbing. when a police officer uses force to arrest a person or defend the imageers graphic and may be difficult to which watch. in addition, there may be strong language used boy those in the video. view are discretion advised for young children and sensitive viewers. encourage those in need of support to contact the san francisco department of public

health crisis line 415-970-3800. the inspect investigation's bureau a unit in the da's office reviews all officer involved shootings. ii sdshgs may be reached by e mail. or phone at 628-652-4420.

at 10. . twoop p.m. a 911 call are report i man with a knife. stating he is on the sidewalk threatening people walking biechl the call are stated the man was on the 300 block of jones street. you are about to hear the 911 call by san francisco's department of emergency management. personal information by the caller has been redacted to protect privacy. we will play the 911 call. >> emergency. >> hello? >> san francisco 911. >> i got a guy with a knife

threatening people a big knife and somebody pepper strait spray him he is on the sidewalk. >> hello. >> had is the location of the emergency? >> okay. what is the [inaudible]. big knife and. [inaudible]. yea. what is cross street half a block up from the police station ellis and 80 wrchlt had is the number you are calling from. what, black and a black and red played shirt. yelling at people with a big knife. how old does high look to you. 50 years old. >> okay. and how big is the knife when type of knife is it?

almost a foot long. >> okay. >> 22, 23 and pen seconds. >> over a foot long >> yea somebody tried to spray pepper spray at him. with is the person with the pep are spray. they were going by on a scooter. he is threatening everybody. >> okay. >> he get pepper sprayed. than i spray today from the street. >> we have officers driving out there, okay. >> all right. i want you to stay safely away from him we have multiple officers coming. >> okay. >> do you whon this person is have you seen him before. >> no he is outside my window i got a street level window. >> put this knife away.

>> try to keep people away we have officers coming. >> all right. >> stay on the phone tell you seat officers, okay. >> yea. >> he does in the live in the building? >> has anningelder low person attacked last year and the person is still on the street this is ridiculous. coming out there as fast as they comprehend when knife is the hand in? in his right hand. does it electric like a kitchen knife or machete. >> like a hunting knife. >> don't want anyone approaching him.

they are here. >> they have the right person did than i see him. >> yes. >> than i are telling him to put the knife down. okay i will hangup with you, okay. >> he is not putting the knife down. they are here now. >> thank you. >> you are welcome. >> thank you. >> all right. >> dispatch responding officers. the audio provided by san francisco department of emergency management. personnel information redacted protect the victims. >> 4a222. jones off of ed and he ellis. >> this is outside there is a male with i learning knife

threatening people. unit back. [inaudible]. responding with c it. tenderloin. >> copy that we got afternoon erw going. >> [inaudible]. we are [inaudible]. down responding. 22250's wearing a black/mraid red shirt. >> 1510/4 someone went by on a scoot and teamed to pep are sprinkle unsure the pepper spray made contact. the 222 heard in the background. black and red shirt. tenderloin unit 222 has the

knife in his right hand. we prom vied a map of jones street between ellis and eddie and graphics to display area of the incident monopoly am show a google satellite as well as a google street view of location on the 300 block of jones street.

we will he a camera footage i the introduce each video prior to playing. the footage capture friday body cameras worn by members at the time of the event. portions of the vos have been blurred due to content and protect the privacy of third parties. the first 30 seconds of footage does not contain audio. the cam upon rahas a buffering system this captures 30 seconds of footage prior to the officer's activation. when activated, the camera records audio and video. we are going to play body camera footage from patrol officer 1 the first officer to arrive on scene inform this video officer 1 located mr. everett on the

west sidewalk on jones street. officer game commands for mr. eftree put knife down. receive 1 told everyone to leave the your. officer 1 ask requests an balance. mr. everett seen holding the knife with his arrive hand. this will be played in real time. >> put the knife down! put the knife down. gentlemen, get out of here. put the knife down. hey. get out of here. put knife down! why not? why not? put it down. you want to red light, ed?

red light, red light! sir, we are not here to hurt you we gotta figure out what is going on we can't until you put knife down. please, put it down. >> why not? can you why with don't we start with your name. sir, when is your name? we are going to play enhanced video the body footage we viewed of initial contact between officer 1 and mr. everett. the enhancement highlights the location of the knife. red light red light! sir being we are not here to

hurt you we gotta figure out what is going on we can't until you put the knife down. please, put it down. why not? camera footage from patrol sergeant 1. first supervisor on scene. the body footage begin with sergeant one arriveos scene requesting can additional resources, managing and coordinating the incident. >> eddie you talking? >> [inaudible] we got a [inaudible] and utilize [inaudible]. you want to triangulate.

>> yes. you want to be a team? all right. >> hey. am ob up there, right? eddie come on here? triangulate here? why don't we utilize -- a car here. use this car here. yea. block it off. block it off off that side. if you away >> man. puff where you are knife away. we will talk to you without the knife. put your hands up, man.

>> take care of these people. phil. put arlington call in. >> yea. can get anybody from the station to give us a couple cars up here. all right. cool. yea. pass the line. that's -- all right. few more cars. criminal on, see your hands. >> what's your name signal why don't we start with your name? don't move. don't walk like that. exactly on over here. i hear you stay here. arrest him, right? you know what is his name? you want to talk to him. jerry.

the knife in his hand. >> what is his name >> jerry, louisiana, what is going on, brother? no one will you gotta put the knife down. >> name is louisiana? that's what i call him. >> cool you know anything else. he stays on the street a little loose. i don't want him to get shot. we are trying to help him. juan, try to get as much as you can from this guy. got 115. why don't you get him out of here. jerry. will you get had guy out and keep him on the side everybody else clear block of pedestrians,

get all of them out of here. louisiana! louisiana! we are here to help you, man. all the people are here for you that's it. we want you to get help of the you can take your knife we want to get you to the hospital. for now. we want to help you that's it, man. you are scaring everybody. please, help us out. >> can you help us, please? what can we do to help you? huh? ob accident you issue john k.

russell. >> what can we do to help you out? >> jerry? what is going on, man? you are in the in trouble we want to figure out when is happening. >> 112, 115. please. 115. make sure we get the pedestrians off the street and clear the block? hey. so. do we are like 919? >> right now, you have. yea. and he is like raise it up. and hold it up like this.

yea. we are here to help you out. >> we can't help you until you put this comboif down, machine. >> no one here will [inaudible]. upon >> you got him isolated on each side. now we are trying to talk to him. all of the upon stuff dhoun way you want all those people yoochl clear the whole block. chris, try to clear the whole block get everybody out of here. mike, try to clear the whole

block, get everybody out of here. i want to be able to talk to you closer but -- [inaudible]. you guys will sxach catch. these guys hand's on on this side. go ahead. >> 2 teamos this side. >> when is he telling us. >> god gave me the knife. >> you are not in trouble.

you can keep your knife but keep your hands off so we can make sure everything is okay with you. that's your knife. brother. that's going to stay with you we gotta make sure everything is cool. can you take your hand away. and keep them up we can talk. nobody here. -- man. go ahead.

i appreciate it. to jones that is the safe approach. so, no. russ is lethal. ob, hand's on and here we have. >> right. they need to hold down if we're going in to make the detention. understand this we got the perimeter. >> the guys 2 hand's on. and 232 and they will go. >> okay. >> should we have all the 4 guys and those 2 from there all here, you think? would that be better? let's see. i want it make sure it is in the

hundred's on. no 2eiw. if john is lethal. russ is lethal. >> that might be a good plan to have. why tommy get fields here. >> yea. >> shields. >> no. i agree with that. we can't leave until we talk to you. yea. now what? go ahead. already established to which you gotta issue ready. >> i can't understand what is going. >> i get it. >> we waited out for now, russ. >> all right. >> basically, use the walk like

a knife. taking it out. yea. we'll not call anything yet we need a 40 here that would be cool. thank you. mike. will you finds extra shields. if you can? hey. back up. >> [shots] upon shots fired.

>> back it up! come here. >> hold it there. >> got it. >> shots fired. >> we are going it play body footage from patrol receive number 3. officer 3 discharges the department firearm when mr. everett runs toward an receive waiving a knife at chest level. hey. well la. upon listen, man. hey. we are all here and can't go away.

right. you can sit down or talk to us. red light. >> back. >> [shots fired] don't fire! drop the knife! drop the knife! we are going to play the cam are footage from patrol officer 4. officer 4 discharges the department firearm. hey. grabbing a bag.

hey. louisiana we are all here and we can't go away. right? you can sit down or talk to us. >> you can't leave. [shots fired] drop the knife! we are going to play the body camera footage from patrol sergeant 2. this shows a different view. this vool be play in the real time. sit down or you can talk you to.

red lit! hold on. hold on. >> [shots fired]. drop the knife! drop the knife! drop the knife! we are going to play the enhanced video of the footage from sergeant 2. the enhance am highlights the knife. red light. >> hold on. >> [shots fired].

drop the knife! drop the knife! we will play body footage from patrol officer 2 deployed eriw. >> the tree? red light >> i don't got angle. [shots fired]. drop it!

shots fired. its gone. its gone. >> got it. >> shots fired. we are going to play body camera footage from officer 5 deployed an eriw. >> hey. louisiana. hey. we can't go away. all right! sit down or -- am red light! [shots fired].

we will play the video of the synchronized multicam footage of patrol officers number 2, 3, 4 and 5. this video shoes what appear to be the sequence of fire from our review of the evidence. we can't just go away. right? sit down. red light. [shots fired]. upon how about.

we will play the video that was recorded by witness of the incident and posted a local news website. red light. red light. [shots fired]

>> we are gog play in sinkization the witness video and body footage of patrol sergeant number 2. this video will be play in the real time.

tommy. . sit downful or talk to us. red light. >> hold on. hold on. >> [shots fired]. stop. >> got it. >> drop the knife! drop the knife! all right. drop the knife right here. >> we'll play enhanced voft witness video and body footage of patrol sergeant number 2. the enhandlesment highlights the knife.

[shots fired]. we are going to share a photograph evidence by theed police department forensic service. the knife in mr. everett's possession. this photo shoes the eriw's deployed by a police officer and less lethal projectile.

these show the department issued firearms used by officers number 2 and number 3. this concludes my presentation. i will now introduce the commanding officer of tenderloin police station captain chin. of chief scott. members of public and community. good afternoon. i'm captain chin commanding officer of tenderloin station. i'm here to address an incident that deeply affected the community and officer volved shooting. we understand the occurrence, questions and emotions that has arisen as a result of this incidentful and we are to assure that you we take this matter

very serious low. first, our thoughts with the individual and families who were directly impacted by this incidentful we recognize the pain and trauma that they are experiencing and we offer our support. we are committed to transparency, accountability and through the this investigation process. our department, and other agencies are working to garth all necessary information and evidence to provide a thorough and impartial review of the situation. we will ensure that this investigation conducted with the utmost intel rit and he in accordance with the lu. in addition, to the investigation, we are active low reviewing our policies and

procedures to identify areas for improvement. we have engaged an open dialogue with our community to garth input, perspectives and recommendations on how we can enhance trust and safety within our community. we understands that the need for change and reform. and we are committed to taking meaningful steps. toward building a more just, equal and sieh community for all residents. we'll keep you updated on the progress we make in this regard. during this challenging times, we endourj our community members to come together, support one another and enengage in constructive conversation about how we can move forward as a u nightd and resilient community. we are committed to protect and

serve the community with dignity and respect. we value your input and feedback and we are mere to listen. together we can heel, justice and positive change. i welcome questions or concerns from our neighborhood. we hold a monthly community meeting on the last tuesday of every month. tenderloin station at 6 p.m. thank you. thank you. and now we will take questions

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we let the call line open for nenlts. so this will conclude our town hall. thank you very much. be safe. going 90 charlie. go ahead. we moved to san francisco in 1982. we came from the philippines. i have three kids nathan, jessica and iva. i was really young. when i had neat, i turned 19. and then two weeks later, he was born. so when he was fine, i used to watch cops all the time. all the time and so he would watch with me. he had his little handcuffs and his little toy

walkie talkie. and then whenever the theme song came on, he would walk around and he just thought he was the baddest little thing. i think he was in kindergarten at sheridan because he and i attended the same elementary school there was an officer bill. he would just be like mom officer bill was there then one day, he said, mom, i touched his gun. and he was just so happy about it. everything happened at five minutes. i would say everything. happened at 4 to 5 years old. it's like one of those goals to where you just you can't you can't just let go. high school. i think you know everybody kind of strays. he was just riding the wave. and i mean, he graduated. thank god. one day i think he was about 20 or 21. he told me, he said mom. i want to be a cop or a firefighter, i said. no you're

going to be a firefighter. but that's really not what he wanted to do. his words were i want to make a difference. and that was a really proud moment for me when he said that my dad was a cop in the philippines for 20 years. i think a lot of that played a role into his becoming a cop. my dad was really happy about it. my mom. she was kind of worried, but i just figured i can't stop him. he can make his own decisions. stu. i just want to say what's up? how you doing? good. good. no i'm trying to look good for us to looking good for us to so when he was in the police academy, mind you this kid was not a very studious kid. but i've never seen him want something so bad when he was home. he'd be in his room

studying the codes. he really fought for it. hi. what's your name? i'm nate. nate is great with kids, and he would give them hugs or give them stickers. i think that that's a positive influence on the kids, and then the people around you see it. once he makes that connection with people and they trust him that foundation that respect people look at you and see your actions more than your words and so that i think will reach people more than anything. you could say you later, brother. thank you. all right, see you. it's a really hard job. i know you. you see a lot of the negative for me. i would not put myself through that if i didn't care. you know, you have to be the right kind of person. you have to have the right heart to want to do that. when people ask me if you know what my son does

, um, i just tell him he's a cop , and i just feel like i'm beaming with pride. i always told him when he was young that he would do something great. and so to see it. it's i have a moment. i'm very proud of him.

>> this is one place you can always count on to give you what you had before and remind you of what your san francisco history used to be. >> we hear that all the time, people bring their kids here and their grandparents brought them here and down the line. >> even though people move away, whenever they come back to the city, they make it here. and they tell us that. >> you're going to get something made fresh, made by hand and made with quality products and something that's very, very good. ♪♪ >> the legacy bars and restaurants was something that was begun by san francisco simply to recognize and draw attention to the establishments. it really provides for san

francisco's unique character. ♪♪ >> and that morphed into a request that we work with the city to develop a legacy business registration. >> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪♪

so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important.

we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved

meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important.

♪♪ >> the service that san francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and

that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪♪ and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city.

pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor. >> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪♪

>> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff. at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. ♪♪

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