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out of order, i'd like to ask we have somebody from who is tune nothing remotely. can we take item 3 out of order? >> yes. we can. >> great. why call item 3. item 3 a motion approving or rejecting the mayor's nomination for appointment of hans baldauf to historic preservation commission ending december 31 of 26. this has been requested as a committee report members of the public had wish to comment on this item should call the line screaming across the scene then the meeting id and pound twice. dial star 3 to be added to the speaker queue. prompt will indicate you raised your hand wait until you have been unmute exclude you mibegin your comment when is we go to public comment mayor breed nominated hans baldaughter to

seat 2 held by lydia so. the requirements are that they shall be a left lanesed architect meeting the civic interior professional qualifications standards for historic architecture. mr. baldauf is joining remote today. and always i will ask to limit comments to 2 minutes and available for q &. mr. baldauf, welcome to rules. floor is yours. >> thank you very much. are you able to hear me? we can hear you >> perfect. thank you for accommodating me i'm coming in to you from naples, italy. i am here on a 2-1/2 month sebat cal study at the american academy in rome. that is exploring the food culture of compannia and its rep

to architecture of 2 things that are near and dear to me. but and the ties to why i'm excited by mayor broed's nomination of people i grew up in san francisco. i returned after college and graduate school to work in san francisco. and have worked here since the 9 early 90's. and it is my home. i raised our 2 children here. and the opportunity to give become to the city is one that i'm very excited about and in the capacity being on the historic preservation commission. i'm excited about that because all of my work has been involved in i way with historic building in one respect or another. we were fortunate to work on the transformation of the ferry building in the ferry building market place.

our firm did the ground floor food hall. we then worked on the transformation of the old western furniture mart what was the twitter building. and locked at the ground floor of that building and as chairman of the board of the foundation, i was very involved with the restoration of the palace of fine arts 10 years ago. and that -- place is very important to me. so i have been involved with icons of san francisco for a long time but i think that the thing that i am most excite body is the legacy business project of the historic preservation commission. i think it is in the just architecture this makes a city it is how we live in it and use it. and the legacy businesses are a living -- expression of this.

and so -- i think that you know it is interesting because when i first learned about the commission i thought more architectural terms when i dug in and did go to a couple of the meetings and i found myself increditedabley excite today is how architecture is the stage for our lives that is interesting to me. the whole set of cultural connections. and in fact that's what i'm exploring here in southern italy now. i'm happy to answer questions but i'm honored to be before you and thank you for giving me your time. >> thank you mr. baldauf. i don't have questions for you i will say i share your perspective tht importance of our historic legacy cultural and more than just the buildings. i think this is true in the city this has the cultural districts

my district has 3 of them in the lbgtq+ which has historic asset list and the transgender cultural district. supervisor safai? >> thank you, chair. thank you, hans for putting your name forward. just a couple questions. one the same i ask almost everyone this come forward. >> have you attended the historic preservation commission and what are your thoughts about the more rent work they have done? why well i attended the one i believe the first week in august. and this was a relatively nun ton contentious meeting. i know that over the past several months just because i read about it in the newspaper but not follows exhaustive low a

lot of controversy regarding one project. i it is heard for mow to comment because i don't did not know the in's and out's of this project. when i would say about historic preservation is that you know i am very aware of the secretary of interior standards but i'm also aware they are subject to interpretation. and i think that i would say i try to be approach projects with a thoughtful pragmatism. we -- didn't get a approval of the ferry building project through the state historic preservation office for tax credits because they were unhappy with the fact this we were opening up the -- floor from the grounds floor up to the roof of the sky light.

and responsiblesing the great space that is the defining element of the ferry building. and we had to go to washington, d.c. and have the higher authorities bless that part of the project. it was controversial for people who wanted nothing to change. but i would argue and i feel that time has in my mind validated our assertion this being able to experience the grand space from the ground floor how most people experience the building is important. but at the same time, i think this we came up with the scenario using the grass hand everhand rail when is you stand on the stair case after gone up to this second floor; you have very much can feel what the building was originally designed like if you compare photographs.

when i look for in those situations the win/win. and so i was not involved or hear the nuance on the castro theatre project. but i would say that when i always look for in projects how do you really satisfy the spirit of the preservation in the importance of that while the same time recognizing that the life of building system irrelevant important and than i need to live. i don't know photocopy this answers your question. >> that was good. that was good i know you bring qualifications i wanted know if you had interaction or personal experience with attending the commission meetings and sounds like you have and put thought into this. i think one of the other thing its is in the necessarily the purview of your commission it is

more the planning department. the discussion of the departments the commission and the department working to have i better map and understanding of the historic label of men of the buildings in the city. ooh lot of times than i are in a nonclassification until it is determined the historic niche of i belling. i think it will be helpful if the commission worked with planning to understand the map of san francisco and the current status of each belling would help facilitate the development in the city. and speedup the process. something for you to think about. on your work on this commission

and work with the planning commission in general. otherwise, i have no comments, appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you >> thank you, supervisor safai and mr. baldauf don't see other comments but we will open this up. open up to public comment. >> thank you, are there members of the public like to comment for item 3 line up to your right. remote members dial star 3 to be added to the queue. for those on hold wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. are well members here in the chamber this would like to speak to this item? upon ghee to the call in line we have 2 listeners with one in the queue. may we have the first caller? mr. lamb? >> great. good morning. daved pilpel i don't know the nominee but had a couple of typos i noticed on the motion itself.

on line 3 it should be hans baldauf it is yans. line 7 should read hans baldauf and not lydia so. and depending on the action of the committee you may want to further amend lines 3 and 13 if you move to approve or reject the nominee. i want to catch those issues in the motion. that's all. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. do we have other callers on the line? >> thank you. public ment on item 3 is closed. >> if i could direct i question to in dam city attorney. is there infirmity in the motion this needs to be amended. >> it sounds like there is i'm

pulling update motion to confirm what amendments i don't have a copy in front of me. >> okay. shall i make the motion to sends this appointment to the full board as a mittee report. is it necessary then to -- no t. is not i can make the corrections. a motion then to sends this appointment to the full board as a committee report. can we have i roll call >> on the motion to send this item to the full board as a mittee report k with positive recommendation vice chair walton. >> aye >> member safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> thank you, on a unanimous vote item 3 appointment to historic preservation hans baldauf moves to the full board as a committee report. >> would you call item one? >> around ordinance amending the

code to add the firefighter cancer prevention foundation to the list of city officers and employees make donations by payroll deduction this is hen requested as a committee report. member who is wish to ment on this item call the line scrolling across the screen and enter the meeting id and pound twice. if you have in the done so dial star 3 to be added the queue. prompt will indicate you raised your hand wait until you have been unmuted and begin your comment when is we go to public comment. thank you >> thank you. this item is sponsored by president supervisor peskin joining us this morning. president supervisor peskin, welcome to rules the floor is yours. >> thank you, chair dorsey. mittee members and supervisor chan. this is a small pedestrian change to 16.93 of the administrative code as you recall in the budget this board of supervisors passed for the

coming fiscal year, we sunseted the combined charities function as a result, the source of payroll deductions this funded the firefighter cancer prevention foundation were e eliminated thissed be in,dition to the list of organizations for come the controller can make deductions from city employees at their voluntary request. to funds all of these organizations. this adds the firefighter's cancer prevention foundation to this list. the controller who would administer though is accepting of this. i'm available to answer questions. this is supported by local upon 798 the firefighter union who

are here to testify today. >> thank you, president supervisor peskin. >> vice chair walton. >> thank you, chair dorse y i want to go on record asking and requesting added as a cosponsor. thank you vice chair walt sxon i would as well. and supervisor safai as well. >> seeing no other president supervisor peskin is that? your -- as a committee report, please. >> okay. great. are there seeing no other questions or comments from colleagues, in dam clerk miwe open up to public comment. confirming i will add supervisors walton, dorse and he safai as sponsors, thank you are there members withhold like to comment. line up to the wall on your right. remote call in members dial star 3 to be add to the queue.

for those on hold wait until you hear the sound, you are unmuted. welcome you mibegin comments. >> [inaudible]. firefighter's union local 798 and the vice president of the san francisco firefighter's cancer prevention foundation. i vehicle for your support. this was brought forward to address hi think an unforeseen consequence of the decision on roll back the charity's program. san francisco firefighter's cancer prevention foundation this year is the learningest recipient of donations through this program. primarily firefighters who opt for the payroll deduction to criminality to the efforts. this year we are wring nothing under 60 thousand dollars from those contributions. so the loss of charity's programmed be a hit. and so we great low appreciate the w this supervisor supervisor peskin put in this the w of the controller's office and your

support. just briefly, foundation formed 16 years ago by retire the captain stefani with an all volunteer board of active, retired firefighters and medical professional this is works with the department to implement preventive measures to reduce expose our and provides regular screening for cancers for all firefighters free and no cost to the city or the firefighters. partners with universities around the counsel row for person ground breaking research studies on the causes of cancers and works with community al ice to reduce the level chemical in all home and work places. this payroll deduction option is our primary source of funding and appreciate you assisting us to continue that option for our members who wish to contribute. why thank you. >> are there other members this

would like to speak to this item? >> we will go to the call in line there are wherevero in the queue. >> thank you. public ment is now closed. president peck 57. i like to thank supervisor chan for early cosponsorship. if you would like to sends this with recommendation as a committee report i would greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> great. >> so moved. madam clerk, a roll call on that motion to sends to full board as committee report >> on this motion vice chair walton. >> aye. >> member safai. >> ayech >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> you have 3 aye's >> thank you on a unanimous vote item 1 administrative code cancer prevention fundsation as a mittee report to the full board. >> can we call item 2.

>> ordinance amending the code to provide attentives by a tenant represent and meetings to set rules for the duration of and attendance at meetings of tenantsorption to provide the associating remain in good standing unless fails to recertify and to make changes regarding obligation of land lord and associations to conifer in good faith. member when is wish to comment call the line scrolling on the screen and ernld the meeting id and pound twice. dial star 3 to be added to the queue. the system prompt will indicate you raised your hand wait until you have been unmute exclude begin your comments. thank you, this sponsored by connie chan. supervisor chan, welcome to

rowels the floor is yours. >> thank you chair dorsey for schedule third degree item and thank you voice chair walted wolton and safai for being on the committee and hear us. i am a first generationim grant. came to san francisco chien town when i was then. my family, my nom mom a single mom with 2 teen kids were grateful to find rent control apartment, bordering north beach and china town we were able tom stay in san francisco and thrive. but, through a journey from then that was 1990 to today of 2023, i have seen a journey of tenants trying to survive in san francisco especially today in the very high rent circumstance.

and volatile circumstance. and so -- for when original low the union at home first introduced by supervisor supervisor peskin in 22 i'm grateful to see how it was approved by this board. of supervisors. the idea was this tenants live nothing buildings 5 units and more can form a youn and form tenant association. and be able to collective low bargaining their right as tenants with corporate land lords and this we saw this with that, am many tenabilities form associations throughout the city. and that really impact on their lives. in terms of stability and being able to still in their homes. especially during the pandemic

when things have been quite difficult, and so with this said we have lessons learned and we understand this we could do better as tenants associations. can have long with lands lords have an opportunity that is more fair. and equal in their conversations. therefore we now have the union legislation before you today. specific low,um see in this legislation, is this we are really try to artic lit when good faith means. that is hoping this you know to help corporate land lords understand this than i need to in to the table and have good faith conversation with tenants and move some of the conditions and conversations forward in a productive manner. so -- that's one and this is when you will see today. and additional low clothes, we are hope that you will be in

supportive of amendment this is we propose today. line 3, page 3, line 12 this is adding adequate time for translation services. this again is a lessons we learned for monolingual tenants the difficulties than i face. and through tenant association and during the meetings. hay need additional time to understand the notices through translation services provided by our tenant's advocates. even though they are there to prosecute void support it is in the easy to have real time understanding of the notices they receive. so than i need in more time to have these notices to trans lit to be appropriated for these meetings. so those are things we learned the left couple years. here we are hoping we can make better improvements on thiso it

is equal -- and productive. when the tenant associations mote with the corporate land lords. i want to remind us that begin the task the learningest corporate land lord in san francisco. just sold 75 buildings to balast investments. an example of the scale of impact that these types of corporate land lords have on our residents and 75 building this is is equal to about more then and there 2,000 unit in san francisco and that's 2,000 households could be impacted. with this union and legislation improvement, hopeful low this could also bring confidence and stabilities and opportunity for

the tenants to talk with their corporate land lords during the transition. so with that, thank you, clothes and hope to have your support. thank you. supervisor chan. i will -- express my grad gratitude for your work on this itemism spent most of my career working in the stele attorney's office. where landlord/tenant, played out in affirmative litigation. you mentioned there was a case that when i was the the city attorneyy office, city departments and sky line realty and he this many of those properties ended up become properties. i do see the value of this -- legislation. even in my time as a supervisor, i have dealt with the situation where there was an in regard where i could have seen for --

perhaps unintended reasons would have been helpful to as well ansorption to reach out to. when we had a flood in a build nothing my district we wanted to make sure especially below market rate residents placed in house andmented make sure all residents were and i was in i situation i needed to rely on the land lord. it would have been nice to have i separate contact often it was like herding cats. i know the legislation state this is the rent board has authority to issue rowels and regulations inform some of the feedback we had different stake holders in this, i know there is a lot of wishes for the thing to bes clarified. i'm hopeful the rent board will do this. i think this is important and ground breaking legislation. and appreciate your work and i'm in support. vice chair walton

>> thank you, chair dorse and thank supervisor chan for introducing this change in code. and wants to move to sept proposed amendment firefighter item 2. supervisor safai. >> thank you, chair. and supervisor chan. one thing i think is super important this may be i'm not a lot of people experience is and a lot of folks i think need the service and representation are seniors. a lot of time it is later in life than i are in the surrounded by family. but yet they are age nothing place in the situations and without the right guidance and the right individuals to talk to they can get confused not know everything this is going on. i think this is know important aspect and you e louded it as an

immigrant myself when people are dealing with language barriers is be intimidates. to have rep centation. i understand some of the thing this is might seem repetitive to some of the representatives from the industry but i know this it seems as though this is i modest request for the ability to have conversations and conifer about changes in the over all environment where people are living and i know this can be disruptive to anybody regardless of whether than i are a tenant or not. i think that this strikes a balance and appreciate you moving this forward. >> thank you can we open up to public ment? >> thank you, mr. chair are there members here in the chamber this would like to ment to item 2? lineup on the wall to the right.

remote call in members dial star 3. for those on hold wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. welcome, caller you may proceed. >> good morning supervisors i'm brad ahern i work at housing right's committee. sudden front and since starting hrc in december of 2016 organize with tenants under large corporate landlords has been a challenge and privilege. i urge you to move this ordinance forward. it is a has been since its inception, over a year ago, tenants have been using it in every single supervisor district. and building small as 5 units and large as 150 units. and i think this the have yous

that under lay ordinance are values of a union town the comradery real where does not often exist especially across language, generation, race and ethnicity and -- it hen an honor to organize with tenabilities they brutheir vis forward in the most stressful moments of being a tenant whether it is as supervisor chan mentioned the sale of 75 building to another large actor. evictions of niches. excessive rent increases. these are item this is associations tempting to bring forward and -- really excited see the next stage of this, thank you for your support. thank you.

next speaker, please. >> good morning supervisors. i'm lana an organization of housing community san opinion and i proud member of the [inaudible] association. i volunteered with hrc for 2-1/2 years in the about -- 2017. because it was purchased by [inaudible]. and as a tenant in san francisco did in the realize they were a tenant's right's movement. and i thought that i knew if i'm not the only twhoon did not know others did not. during out reach. door knock and expressing and exercising tenant right and tuck to neighbors about organizations and exercising rights was important to be a tenant in san francisco. also born and raised in bernal height its important to me to

have attentives stay in housing safely, affordable low and comfortably. so please, move forward with this legislation. i did work on it as well with aaron supervisor peskin my supervisor in district 3 and i encourage this this goes forward, vehicle connie for the work you have done. so -- thank you for your time. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. woeful will go not call in line. we have 5 listeners with 4 in the queue. first caller? >> good morning i'm molly goldberg and i'm director of the antidisplacement coalition

worked with tenants who bruthis legislation forward when initial low deteriorateed support passage of this legislation and since have been excited see 10 an association as a district in the city across the city. san francisco antidisplacement coalition represents different tenant right organizations in the city and neighborhoods we understand the essential work of the associations and tenant organizing to keep tenabilities housed. and we have seen of this legislation in supporting. to support one another and [inaudible], [inaudible] stay in homes and we appreciate supervisor chan's work in

clarifying the language to ensure all parties negotiating in good faith. [inaudible] >> thank you. next caller, please. >> hello. i'm [inaudible] calling from justice san francisco we supported the legislation passed last year and our staff volunteered timism urge you to recommend the union at home to the board and continue to pregnant we started left year a framework to build power. this ordinance add think. all parts are north americaing and understand our obfwagz and is then and there hen an issue in my conversations with the

organizers who have been w to support it of this. so,iel. say that i appreciate supervisor chan for bring thanksgiving forward and urge to you support this ordinance thank you for your time >> thank you. next caller. >> good morning. i'm [inaudible] i chair the 700 church tenant's association. also known as the svts. i'm peeking in spchlt metropolitan to the tenant organizing ordinance 3222. our land lord believed that 3222's current language allows him to appoint anyone he wants to represent him in meetings with the scta and rent board judge told us they were right. created no different low an than individual tenant. we were directed to present our

concerns to the communication manager at an e mail address or phone number. who passed the items to responsible managers for decisions and then relayed them to the scta. this policy allowed for no kong ferring and saw it as a violation of ordinance 3222 and filed a pel suspicion at the rent board failure to conifer in good faith. weave reached a mediation agreement august third we believe resolved the issue but still not certain tht land lord will change policy. this proposed amendment includes changes regarding land lord obligation to conifer in good faith make it clear they must provide responsible personnel to the conifering and negotiating with us. and 3222 intend in the the first place >> this will give support to our

mediation agreement. thefrngs to supervisor chan for her efforts and support this amendment so 3222 can fulfill its purpose for tenants. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller? >> good morning. i'm a 10 not in san francisco when has used and seen impact of the right to organization legislation in buildings. i urge the mitt eye to recommend the union 2. 0 to the board this ordinance is where we need to go. the union to work place this ordinance strengthens democracy in buildings and strengthens communities. acting is a crucial per of the stele's effort to fight the housing crisis. supervisor chan version is important clarifying language and prosecute visions to help ensure all negotiate in good faith this is the board chance to stand with us organizing for

i better future for themselves and neighbor i urge you to support this, thank you. >> thank you. this completes the queue. >> thank you. public meant on item 2 is closed. we have a motion on the floor by walton to amend the legislation as supervisor chan read in the record to provide time for limited english speakers to obtain translation services. without objection? >> on this motion vice chair walton. >> aye >> member safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> you have 3 aye's >> i move to as i understand this item to the full board with positive recommendation. >> as amended. >> >> no other items >> i think it is procedure. >> yes. >> forwarding now.

>> wrapping this up. vice chair walton to forward with positive recommendation. >> aye. >> safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> you have 3 aye's >> thank you, madam clerk on a unanimous vote item 2 code tenant organizing amended move to the board with a positive recommendation. >> do we have further business. >> no further business. >> we are adjourned.the firsto

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>> you are watching san francisco rising with chris manners. today's special guest, carolyn mante. >> hi, i'm chris manners and you are watching san francisco the stow about restaffing rebuilding and reimaging the city. the guest is carolyn manteto talk about the organization is helping to preserve the city cultural heritage and architecture. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me e. >> good to have you here. >> can we talk bat the history of your organization and the mission. >> sure, thank you. san francisco heritage started 51 years ago and the main mission is to preserve and enhance the architectural and cultural identity of san

francisco. when it started out the focus was really on the buildings, historic landmark listings and really concentrated on downtown area with all the development happening. our organization was raising a reg red flag with historic landmarks in danger and victorian mansions so a hallmark of our organization is moving these victorian mansions in the way of development to inwestern addition neighborhood and other areas to get out of the way of development and preserve them. our organization was around before there was the historic preservation commission of the city so we were at the forefront drawings attention to historic preservation, landmarking and over the last 51 years we have seen how there are more then just buildsings in safeguarding the city cultural resources, there is also small businesses and the

different neighborhood icons that make a neighborhood special, so our outreach has really-it is really come full circle in a way because it moved downtown into the neighborhoods and now with the covid epidemic it is really going back to downtown again looking at how we can play a role in the economic recovery and revitalization of downtown san francisco. >> that's great. so, now i understand your organization is also responsible for maintaining a couple properties. could you tell us a little about those? >> yes, our non profit was gifted in 1973, the historic (inaudible) house. it is now a historic house museum but this was a family since 1886 built this victorian mansion in the same family year after year and one of the last resident of the family when she passed way gifted the mansion to

san francisco heritage so since then we have been running this historic house and the home of our office. in 2018, one of the long time members nor aa lasten gifting a building on the e h-as hate polk became a commercial corridor after the earthquake, the owner at the time, he raised the house and put 6 store front underneath in order to take advantage of the commerce so we are in charge of the house on the corner and it has been a wonderful way to get new numbers, new audiences interested in the work of our organization. during the pandemic, we have been using it as a artson residents and partnering with different bay area artists as well

as cultural institutions, cultural districts and then one of the storefronts we converted into a pop up galleries so gives a opportunity to raise awareness of the importance of the art and cultural resources in san francisco. >> that's fantastic. so, now, let's talk about legacy business. what does the designation mean? how does somebody get add today the legacy business registry and what benefits does being named a legacy business? >> i love this program. it was started by san francisco heritage and adopt ed by the city and run by the office of small business but the program looks what are the businesses really contributing to san francisco and the neighborhood. when we started the first focus was bars and restaurants but over the years it exb panded to include other businesses so these are places that contribute to the character of a

neighborhood, so sam's grill downtown, the amazingarian press in the presidio. book stores like city lights oergreen apple recently named. this year we had a lot of attention on the legacy business program. we put out a contest to the public of what you think should be the next legacy business and one of the businesses that was recommended was the club deluxe, jazz club on the corner, and 2 or 3 days after we launched the contest, the owners announced they would have to close. the rent was driven up, they couldn't afford it, coming out of the pandemic so we worked at speed to get that application submitted with them and that status convinced their landlord to negotiate with them a lower rent and this way they have been able to stay, there was a lot of social

media support around this, so when you become a legacy business, not only do you get marketing and business support from the office of small business, but you also eligible for grants and we work closely with the legacy businesses as we do our work for san francisco heritage. >> that's great. so, apart from architecture and buildings, you also work with cultural districts, and the castro theater strikes me as a place that is both. a beautiful building and cultural hub and center. what has been happening with the recent acquisition by new owners; >> it is leased to another planet entertainment and been in contact with planet entertainment by the castro theater is historic land mark building. it is recognized as a very important architectural

monument. one thing-one of the main activist organizations of the preservation of the theater we work together with supervisor mandelman on a interior landmark historic landmark designation for interior, but what happened over the is summer and people learned is there is a lot of concern not just by san franciscans but people all over the world, movie directors, stars who are very concerned about the risk to the lgbtq and film programming at the castro theater. another planet hosted community stakeholder in august, and it was so moving to see the number of people who took the microphone-everyone had two minutes to say their testimony of what

castro theater meant to them and those testimonys showed this building is contributing not just as a architectural monument but plays a role in the lgbtq community that is irrelaceuble able. >> it is beautiful theater. >> it is. my involvement in the theater raised awareness to not only the castro theater to be emblematic of the lgbtq culture and history but also there are many other sites in the city that also contribute to the identity. that is why so many people come to san francisco as a place of freedom and diversity so in my previous work i worked at the world heritage center, so when i joined san francisco heritage i was thinking why isn't san francisco a world heritage city? for the architecture alone it could be

inscribed. golden gate bridge to name a few but the city is so unique in the architecture, the mansioned and historic landmarks so hoping to start a conversation on that with city stakeholders this year. >> that is great. let's talk about your relationship with other agencies. you mentioned economic and office of work force development and planning commission. how do you unt integrate to them? >> these relationships are essential. we are working with office of small business for the legacy business program and the planning department is really one of our most crucial relationships. we meet quarterly with them and we really see how we can support not only historic land mark listings and historical cultural context statements, strategy for culture districts

and city survey among many other activities that really are of concern to both of us. for the office of workforce development, i attended a etmooing recently that the chamber of commerce organized with them on the downtown revitalization and a key goal in that meeting and in the downtown revitalization is to make sure that the city historic culture resources play a key #r0e8 in the economic recovery and revitalization especially after the pandemic. the office of workforce development has the city build program which is admirable program where youth are trained in construction techniques for rebuilding and especially with the new housing legislation, and we really want to see how can that workforce be expanded to include training in historic preservation. we have so many victorian homes, historic buildings and other places that really need a skilled

labor force to make sure that they are preserved and that they help keep the special identify of the city. we really value these relationships, we meet quarterly with the various organizations and we are really grateful for grants of the arts we receive and other supports so definitely that is a key relationship for san francisco heritage. >> the city build is great. i like that a lot. thank you so much for the time you have given today. appreciate you coming on the show. >> thank you so much raising awareness about san francisco heritage. we hope the people watching will join us in the mission to help keep san francisco special. thank you. >> that's it for this episode. we'll be back shortly. i'm >> chris manners, thanks

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all right. since we do not have a chair or a vice chair this evening, we're going to have to take a motion on electing a temporary chair for the evening . i move. i second. all right. yeah. take a call. all right. on the motion to have commissioner yee chair the meeting tonight, commissioner walker, how do you vote? aye. mr. walker is i commissioner benedicto? yes commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner yanez? yes. mr. yanez is. yes, commissioner

burn. yes. commissioner burn is yes. and commissioner yee? yes. mr. yee is yes. the motion passes. okay thank you very much. there let's call it a first item. line item one weekly officer recognition certificate presentation of an officer who has gone above and beyond in the performance of their duties, sergeant robert trujillo, star number 928 community violence reduction team. good afternoon, chief commissioners director henderson. i'm noah mallinger, captain of the department's strategic investigations. it's my privilege to introduce you to sergeant robert trujillo. sergeant trujillo has been in the san francisco police department for over 17 years. in 2014, sergeant trujillo joined the investigations bureau and began working on organized crime cases, and he still does so today. sergeant trujillo specializes in crimes that predominantly occur in the mission district. he has

investigated hundreds of violent crimes, including, but not limited to homicide shootings, stabbings, robberies. sergeant trujillo has earned the recognition as one of the foremost experts on mara salvatrucha or ms. 13, in the state of california, and routinely works with other local, state and federal agencies in the investigation, apprehension and prosecution of ms. 13 gang members. sergeant trujillo is an instructor at the robert presley institute of criminal investigations, teaching a course on informant management. he teaches a san francisco latin gang course at the san francisco police academy and regularly travels throughout the bay area to teach an ms. 13 gang course in 2018, sergeant trujillo traveled with law enforcement officers from across the country to the fbi transnational anti-gang unit in el salvador. while there, sergeant trujillo studied current gang trends on both a local and international level,

he worked with investigators, prosecutors and analysts and interviewed active ms. 13 gang members. while he was there. sergeant trujillo also takes time out of his busy schedule to teach cadets in the sf program. sergeant trujillo has become an extremely successful investigator for due to his tenacity, intelligence and superior work ethic. he has also dedicated his career to paying forward the tremendous experience and knowledge he has gained. two new officers and investigators in the city and well beyond that, providing this vital information as officers stay safe in the day to day work they do in the streets and also brought violent crime investigations to a successful end. he's increased the safety for all those who live in work in and visit the city of san francisco. rob. sorry isn't real. do you want to say a few words? sure. as an investigator

, i think each day i come to work, i'm very lucky to work with the colleagues that i have . my job is based on teamwork and the team that i work with and i've been working with for the last nine years has allowed me to be successful in my investigations and along as an investigator working with patrol, you know, patrol is the backbone. if it's department and they really help with investigators and helping us solve crimes and obtaining evidence. and i think it's a team effort and everything we do. and i thank you guys and thank you police commission for recognizing me as an investigator. thank you. rocky. acting chief david lazar. thank you, commissioner yee, i just also want to commend and really applaud sergeant trujillo for

all the work that you do in the department. and i know your work saves lives as you get guns off the street and as you apprehend those that commit a lot of harm in our community. thank you very much for what you do each and every day. and i also want to acknowledge deputy chief rob o'sullivan from rob o'sullivan from the investigations bureau. thank you for being here. thank you. captain mallinger. and last thank you to the commission. i know this is a fairly recent item that we have started with recognizing starting off the commission by recognize our members and it goes a long way and they're very, very grateful for all the recognition that they have been received. so thank you for that as well. thank you very much. their acting chief, david lazaro. i'd like to call up commissioner deborah walker. congratulations, sergeant trujillo. you know the work you do matters to all of us . i've been living in the mission for since 1981, and you

keep our neighborhood safe. so i really appreciate it. i know the work you do in investigations is important to us, but also to the public. you know, they come here a lot. people come here a lot. and talk about how important it is to solve these cases and to, you know, to make sure that we keep our streets safe. so thank you for the work you do, all of you in that capacity. really appreciate it. yeah and again, thank you very much to sergeant trillo for all you've done and keeping us safe day in, day out. and thank you again, deputy chief robert sullivan, and then captain. thank you. picture, picture, public comment. no for members of the public who would like to make public comment regarding line item one, please approach the podium. and there

is no public comment. thank you very much. there sergeant youngblood. let's go to item number two. line item two, general public comment at this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police commission. rules of order during public comment. neither police nor dpr personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public. but may provide a brief response. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways email the secretary of the police commission at sfpd commission at sf gov. org or written comments may be sent via us postal service to the public safety building located at 1245 third street, san francisco, california. 94158. if you'd like to make public comment, please approach the podium. my name is karina velazquez. i live and work in the city based on my observations of commissioners comments and opinions, i have concluded that most of you

advocate for criminal by unreasonably restricting basic police policing practices and thereby reducing the consequences of crime. in doing so, you may believe you are helping people of color in particular, but the truth is that you are ignoring the people of color who more often than not are the victims of crime. so to make a point in the hopes that you stop making such mistakes, shake with me today are on documented victims of recent violent crime in the city of san francisco. they are taking time of their super busy lives to thank the police officers because they were there when they needed it the most. and all

. so we are here to stay that our police officers are fully trained and have real world experience. so they don't need restrictions in posed by an elected and untrained group of 11 civil unions. finally we this body doesn't seem to understand or doesn't value the urgency for safety that the people of san francisco are demanding because when you restrict basic police policy and practices, you are not only hurting recruitment efforts for a severely understaffed. san francisco.

good evening, commissioners. my name is jay connor ortega and i am co president of iconic d three in my district. three i am here because this commission, like the board of supervisors, is only gets face time by a lunatic s who demand that you placate their hunger to see the general public at the mercy of criminals. my see a working class resident and the majority of san francisco depends on the police to do their job. they are sworn to do to protect and serve the community. what prevents them from being able to do their job is a board who plays with their funding and this commission who constantly restricts their ability to keep criminals at bay constantly. our city is put on full, embarrassed mental display to the country

and the entire world. the lawlessness in our city, and that this commission contributed to. and because the people are only the ones affected by it, i say enough. originally i was planning to speak on a proposed item by this commission where you all wanted to restrict the sfpd from chasing down criminals. but thankfully i don't see it and i'm hopeful. you all caught wind of the storm. you all were going to get. but like i told the board of supervisors yesterday, please get comfortable at seeing my face and hearing my voice because we the city of san francisco, are no longer going to allow public officials to write decrees unchallenged. but as always, i want to thank the men and women of our san francisco police force. you do a job that none of us can do. thank you. good evening. the

last meeting i attended about the hill bomb was truly disappointing at that meeting. two competing. but important narratives deserved your full attention public safety and the rights of minors upon arrest. combining them into one unruly discussion, an shortchanged them both. one meeting exclusive for the parents of juveniles would have allowed their legitimate and real concerns to be heard. inviting chief scott to explain his department's actions instead of interrogating him about them might have led to a more productive healing conversation about solutions for improvement and policy changes. moving forward. you could and should have been something akin to mediators, but instead you begged parents to file complaints with the dpa. a separate meeting should have been held for the general public and residents near dolores park, who were justifiably horrified about the non-skating mob's mayhem and destruction on concerned citizens who understand the societal value of the rule of law deserve to have you address why you seemed only mildly bothered by the defacing of public property, endangerment of muni passengers and assault of our police officers. this commission barely touched on those aspects of that evening,

focusing almost exclusively on blaming the police for executing the known consequences of illegal behavior in lieu of demonstrating unbiased concern for all parties involved. this commission chose to allow the verbal abuse of chief scott and every speaker supporting the police and the enforcement of our laws. myself included. your bias was significant and wholly obvious. most public officials would have levied consequences such as ejection from the meeting for such aggressive and inappropriate behavior if you were dividers not uniting as commissioners like yourselves who hold the premise that arrest incarceration and being held accountable for one's actions are never acceptable by definition, will never be unbiased and will always be a threat to public safety and our rule of law. thank you. good evening. my name is surbhi. i'm 30 years of age and i'm a proud

resident of sf. on 6th of august, i was walking towards my home and at the crossing of fourth and mission street, i was assaulted unprovoked by two women who pulled my hair, delivered multiple blows to my face and my hand. they were hurling abuses and racial slurs. they said, go back to where you came from. i immediately called 911. it took two attempts and 15 minutes for the cops to arrive, by which time the girls had fled . i was shocked and stunned even after living and loving this city and being a permanent resident of this country, i can make no sense of that attack. i came here as an immigrant. i came here to work hard for a better quality of life. there has been no consequence to this violence. even after a month, we have all the evidence. we have photos of those culprits. we have videos. the cops have those on my case file. and yet no action has been taken. even now

, i've been following up consistently with both the law enforcement as well as administration and everyone's passing the buck. the administration says, we are sorry this happened, let's escalate to cops. the cops say we don't have the manpower because the administration doesn't give us the budget. i'm stuck in the middle and i'm asking for your help. we have the evidence. i'm ready to volunteer my time. if you don't have the manpower to even if your department is short staffed, there are some viable alternatives which shouldn't take too long. why can't we post the photos on social media and ask the public to identify them as a law abiding and taxpaying resident of san francisco? i'm here to urge that we need to do better. we need to do better by our city and our people, including myself. this is not fair. these micro crimes are forcing high taxpaying residents such as myself to leave the city. this is a serious case of xenophobia and public safety that happened with me. i.

hi my name is deepika. same as my friend surbhi. i came to this country because of opportunities provided to me by the tech space and now i'm very privileged to be able to run my own company and being able to volunteer my time to help tenants and residents in district three, but similar to what happened to my best friend surbhi, residents in d three have faced similar situations and they do not have the courage to come here and speak. i commend my friend because she she feels, i think, a lot safer given that she is a permanent resident. but i speak on behalf of two other tenants in d three who have faced something similar racial slurs or go back to where you came from are absolute lutely not acceptable given that we're in first world, silicon valley and especially a place like san francisco, which is supposed to be a haven for people who are

more diverse and are coming here to work hard, but increasingly, we're seeing this behavior. and i wanted to plus one on that because there are more people who are unable to show up. but micro crimes like these are happening and are forcing people to think of their options of leaving the city. we understand there are bigger crimes happening and bigger issues that need to be addressed, but there's got to be a scalable way to address these micro crimes because it's not fair, because these are high taxpaying residents do not have any voting rights in this country, but that does not mean they tolerate and put up with behavior like this. thank you. is there any other speakers. good evening, commissioners and laser and executive director henderson. i'm deputy public defender brian cox. earlier today, i submitted a letter to this body on behalf of the coalition to end bias stops, asking this commission to exercise its powers to end, meet

and confer a process regarding 9.07. it appears that the pretext and its data collection provisions can't return fast enough because this morning a san francisco standard article identifies an sfpd officer mentioned in the may openness report who appears to have misidentified the race of those he stopped, quote, the officer allegedly misidentified the races of people he stopped in nearly half of the 50 encounters reviewed by i have the articles right here. you can all read them. well, that's disturbing. what's perhaps the larger issue is how widespread this practice may be within sfpd. the article identifies other officers who appear to have engaged in similar behavior. if officers have been falsifying traffic, stop data. the already unacceptable racial disparities will become likely far worse. when i first saw the may openness report that i emailed asking it to conduct an audit, the commission should do the same and direct epa to audit sfpd's traffic. stop data to determine how widespread the

practice of falsifying data is within sfpd. moreover, the commission should explore director of policy caywood suggestion to create a working group focused on traffic stop data moving forward. the need for such a working group is underscored by a recent my office submitted to sfpd regarding officer michael shavers. we simply ask for a list of all arrests he has made within the past few years. after diligently searching sfpd told me that it doesn't keep those records. how can this department not know when and how many arrests an officer has made? the commission has the authority to remedy many of these ills. it should start first with exploring all options to swiftly return 9.07 from the meet and confer process. the community deserves no less. thank you. and the articles are right here. in case you haven't read the standard article. happy to pass it out. so at this time i want to thank the public for your public comment. coming up here and telling us your stories of some of the challenges you have and some of the violence that

you receive. so thank you very much. let's go to item number three. item three, consent calendar receive and file action, sfpd and dpa's 1421 and sb 16 monthly report motion to receive and file a second on the motion. commissioner walker, how do you vote? do we need public comment? sorry, i'm sorry. you are correct for members of the public that would like to make public comment regarding line item three consent calendar. please approach the podium and there is no public comment on the motion. commissioner walker, how do you vote? i mr. walker is i. commissioner benedicto yes. mr. benedicto is yes. commissioner yanez. yes mr. yanez is yes. commissioner burn. yes commissioner burn is yes. commissioner yee yes. mr. yee is yes. you have five yeses. okay line item for chief support discussion weekly crime trends and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents or events occurring in

san francisco. having an impact on public safety commission, discussions on unplanned events and activities that chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeting. okay. good evening, commissioners assistant chief david lazaro filling in for chief bill scott this evening. i first want to start off by offering up my condolences to the one young woman here who spoke about what happened to her at at fourth and mission. and i'd like i have officer donahue in the back. i would definitely like to get her contact information. and we will follow up on her incident, make sure her case is being investigated, making sure all the evidence is collected, the videos and everything we need to do to investigate the case. so thank you for coming to the commission this evening to speak about what occurred. okay. in terms of highlights on behalf of the department, first in the city, we have dreamforce. this is a very large event south of market. you probably realize that if you drove and got stuck

in traffic, but we have thousands of people from all over the country, if not the world here in san francisco, plenty of officers out deployed , high visible presence had the opportunity to spend most of my day down at dreamforce. very thankful for the officers who were on patrol with their lights on, creating a high visibility presence and working to really keep the event safe. so very grateful for that. in terms of crime overall for this week. so crime is down by 3. however violent crime is up 3% and property crime is down 4. but crime overall is down by 3. our aggravated assaults are down by 7% and our firearm by firearms down by 9. our burglaries are down 7. our larceny is down by 6% and our auto burglaries are down by 3. we do still encourage the public to do everything they can to leave everything out of their vehicles and keep their vehicles empty. we still hear complaints about windows being broken. that is very unfortunate

effort and we absolutely don't want anything stolen. so we have to keep everything out of our vehicles. i think our biggest challenge this year is robberies, which are up 16% at this time. last year we had 1646 robberies. year to date, we've got 1908. so we are definitely working on the robberies and having discussions about our strategies and officers are out every day working to apprehend suspects that are involved in robberies. we have had 38 homicides year to date. we had 36 this time last year. and our gun violence is up by 6, 153 incidences, shootings a year to date. we had one shooting within this last week, which was on cesar chavez and 280 northbound person was shot and they are in stable condition. as far as the work we're doing in the tenderloin through our drug

market agency coordination center, the officers are doing a tremendous job to address what is happening in the tenderloin. we have made 658 arrests for possession, for sale or sales year to date, which is exceeding the 500 plus number that we had all of last year. so this week alone, we made 89 arrests, which is very significant agent and sees 3297g of narcotics. to put things into perspective, year to date, we've recovered 211 pounds with our narcotics year to date. as of today's date. so there are a lot of great a lot of great work happening there in terms of some significant incidents, i would like everyone to know about the first being in the crocker-amazon area on september the 5th, around 515 in the morning, there was a person who broke into 12 cars overnight. officers responded quickly. they saw the suspect fleeing on a stolen scooter. were they went

after and pursued the suspect. it was a brief foot chase and they apprehended him at ralph and cordova. it was a really good arrest, given that we have auto burglaries and we work hard to make those arrests on the 8th of september, where we had a robbery that occurred also in the excelsior mission and excelsior victim was robbed at gunpoint at and there were three subjects located at mission in russia with the assistance of the ingleside officers and night investigations. they also were involved in a foot pursuit where they they took they took the suspects into custody. so it was a great work by everyone involved. we've had some challenges at westfield. this is something that we continue to work on. there was a retail theft incident in westfield where about $75,000 in retail purses and other things were taken. the security was able to recover about 57,000 worth of the merchandise. but we are working in westfield now to the

point where we have officers assigned inside westfield in a in an effort to really maintain a sense of security for individuals that go and shop. there speaking of westfield, the day prior to this, so this was september 10th. on september 9th, there was a large fight involving youth inside westfield. someone was one young person was armed with a knife. and by the time the officers arrived, everyone had dispersed . but one person who had a knife was still there and he was slightly injured. so again, it just reemphasizes the importance of us being in westfield, and i know we're doing the same for stonestown and any of our malls. we need to have presence, a presence now just really to prevent out things from happening is really what our strategy is. i'm going to tell you about some some driving incidences and situations we've had stunt driving occur, also known as sideshows, but we refer to it as stunt driving. so on sunday, september 10th, first in the geneva naples area, there were about 426 in the afternoon

on a sunday, we had 30 cars with 80 people watching. three officers broke up. that stunt driving event about a half hour later, we believe the group met up at 22nd and folsom at that time, there were 100 plus cars in the intersection and vehicles were driving at high rates of speed. we had our officers respond to that as well. we broke up that group and then we believe on social media. there was another big spot in the bayview at quentin oakdale. our officers responded out there. hundred plus cars were able to break it up. and then finally at 630 in the evening, there were at palace of fine arts. i want to share with this commission that there was a point in time where we really didn't have a strategy. we didn't really see this big in san francisco. this was more of a south bay san jose thing. but right around covid we started seeing this happen in our city and we developed our stunt driving response unit. we put a lot of thought into putting it together. former captain cherniss, who was the

captain of traffic, developed a plan that basically provides for our presence and flushing folks out of areas, and then we work to investigate later on who's involved. and we do the work later to confiscate vehicles. so we have we have an investigator that does that work full time. okay. in the last couple of things i'd like to mention, we had a couple of bad traffic collisions. one was on september 8th near the golden gate bridge at richardson and lyon, a person on a motorcycle was ejected. he's in critical condition. that was on the eighth. on the 10th, at 19th and south venice 19th and mission 19th in south venice. we had a drunk driver that actually hit five people that were in a crosswalk. we took that suspect into custody, and then we had an elderly woman at 46th and taraval on the 11th of september that was hit. and she unfortunately passed away. the last thing i'd like to say is in terms of staffing right now, the numbers continue to drop. so we're at 1474 full duty

officers. we actually have 72 less officers than we did this time last year, which is very unfortunate. and if we work off of that, that report that we received on staffing, the 2021 report of 2182 were 601 below that which is really affecting staffing deployment, workload and officers being tired and all those things that affect the workforce. yes, i would like to conclude by inviting each and every one of you to a graduation tomorrow night, academy class six recruits, six recruits is better than no recruits. we're excited for the six. we're changing the venue because it's a smaller class to the lake merced boathouse. it's going to occur at 6:00 tomorrow evening, and we would definitely love to have your support for the

graduating class. as this concludes my presentation. thank you. thank you very much, sir. acting chief david lazard. i just have a question on academy classes. how many more do you expect for, i guess for this fiscal year? so right now we have 25 recruits that are in the academy. we have another group that's starting in in this month. i think it's between 20 between 20 and 30, somewhere around there. i'm not exactly sure. i'm looking at acting assistant chief walsh. and then our plan is to hire whatever we have budgeted. and so we are going to do everything we can to recruit and hire. i will say the good news is that we have more applicants, significantly more applicants than we did this time last year. and with this last class starting at around 30 or 31, recruits, that was more than we have seen in three years. so

so it's going up slowly. however, it's going to take a time. it's going to take a while to get us to where we need to be as a city. having adequate police force. but thank you. this will follow up. you know, you have the people that apply and they went through the testing. are you going through the same list or you having them to retest for the new new classes? this this just out of curiosity, is that fair? yeah let's let's have our acting assistant chief, pete walsh. he's filling in for ac flaherty to talk a little bit about the hiring. i will say that the other good news is that we're working to streamline the process so that it doesn't take as long where we have multiple tests happening on the same day. this is something new for us, but whatever we can to be competitive, to get people hired as quick as possible. thank you, commissioner. thank you. commission as far as people who repeat, they can apply again. we also have people who for

instance, have injuries during the academy that we bring through in the following academy. so there is unless you're basically not eligible to be a police officer somewhere in our application process, you can come back and either reapply or again, like i said, using injuries. an example, come back and go through the academy. thank you there, deputy chief peter walsh. um i guess i have a question about the amount of arrests that you have out in tenderloin. is there any correlation in with overdose death that has dropped or i guess is, you know, any, any relations to that? yeah, i don't at this moment have the latest numbers on where we are. i know that we were averaging around two overdose a day. i know that we also administer narcan in an effort to save lives. and the officers have done a great job to do that. and we believe that

we were going to continue to focus on both sellers and users with a hope that we can connect users with public health and other things available for their addiction. but i don't have that, and it's something that we could look into and definitely get back to this commission on. thank you. thank you very much. there are commissioner deborah walker. thank you for your report. i have a couple of questions. i'm working with a group of folks. we're working on recruiting. so to that point, six in a class, it is better than none. but we are working really hard to try and deal with the issues of services for recruits or the child care for folks who are already officers working. i mean, i think everybody uses that. everybody needs it. and keeping our

existing staff as well as recruiting is both important. so i just want to mention one issue that i heard and there's talk about limiting the command staff when we're in a in a state where we really need to encourage people by promoting them and making sure that officers and all the different command staff have experience throughout the city. i mean, that's what we need more than anything. so our are we taking that seriously? i mean, is there a real effort to do that. yes. well, there's the two items that you mentioned. first, recruitment and retention . to your point, retention is just as important. we have to be very competitive with other agencies that offer bonus passes or they offer child care or they offer different things to really get the workforce to come out

and be involved in policing. and we want young people to see this as a very noble profession, the ability to help people, the ability to make a difference. and really we have to sell this as an important job. so, yes, and we have to keep who we have. and thankfully, some people who have left have returned, and we welcome them with open arms and say, welcome back and we put them back on patrol. so that's that's important. if you could just clarify your command staff question, and i'd love to answer. well, i heard from somebody that there's discussions at the board about limiting command staff and which i think it's probably not their business, but, you know, it's yeah, i would say that the way that we're structured is really if you think about about the reform that we just went through, i mean, that's a very heavy lift since 2016, 272 recommendations, 90% compliance. if you think about the demands of police right now, the accountability, the fact that we

have that we that we want to move forward on making sure that we comply with everything we put in place, including use of force and all the requirements and investigations and if you think about the way we're structured, we're structured so that we have the control and oversight of our department. so that we are complying with policy so that we are, you know, not preventing so that we're working to prevent a scandal. so scandal. so we're working to make sure that that everything is covered. i mean, every single command staff person has a big, big task, a big to do list, a lot of work to do. if you think about recruitment, if you think about the work in risk management, if you think about the 60 recommendation signs and community engagement, if you think about now all the work we're doing in the tenderloin and we have a commander assigned to that just to complete command and control structure of our organization is needed in order to move policing forward in san

francisco and i know the chief has been very vocal about it and he is very articulate about why the structure is the way it is. i know everybody works very hard and there's a reason why we are in place the way the way we are. yes. and i know i mean, the issues that we've been hearing about from the community about the response time is taking a while because we are low on officers. there was a there was a an article written really highlighting the federal state and local partnership. and everyone's putting in money towards expanding those partner ships. and it seems to be working really well both on our our dealing with the issues that you have prioritized in the tenderloin as well as dealing with the what you call the driving episodes, the gang, the bomb, the hill bombs and the there was a motorcycle bomb, i

think, out in the richmond and, you know, there's all of those things that happen that take that take a lot of people to respond. and so are you having a good success with that partnership? well yes. in terms of the partnership with our state and federal partners, we i don't think the partnership has ever been better. and we are working really collaboratively to deal with some of our biggest challenges in this city, including the tenderloin, as you know, the chp has been out there doing a tremendous job. and then our federal partners are helping us with narcotics sales and things like that. but commissioner, the other thing you're mentioning about response time is, you know, we're working to we're using the overtime that's been provided to us by the board of supervisors in order to adequately staff our staff, our stations every single day in order to respond to those 911 calls. i mean, that's one aspect of what we spend the money on so that we improve our response time. i mean, a response time of 8.5 minutes to an a priority is not as good as

it was when i was a captain. and it was around five minutes. so that goes to the whole point about being understaffed that our folks are working very hard and but we have to do what we have to do in terms of staffing in order to get to calls quickly . great. thank you. thank you. at this time, i'll turn it back over to our chair. vice president carter. thanks commissioner yee, commissioner yanez, thank you. acting president carter overshadowed a quick question about the recruitment, but i believe at some point last year or maybe earlier this year, california freed up the minimum required. right. for hiring. and i believe that they now allow for people who are not necessarily citizens to apply. are we getting any of those applicants? are we promoting this new opportunity? i guess at and are we being proactive about. there is a there are a lot of people out

there who would see this as a viable career for them. so high commissioner for the recruiting . yes. so that's specifically to permanent residents, right. and again, they would have to apply like anybody else. it's a pretty new i know the chief and the department came out with a statement saying that we welcomed it. i don't believe we've gone out to target that recruitment group. we're still kind of concentrate on what we what we normally do and expanding that to traveling to as far away as to john jay college to recruit and things like that. but it is something that is available to us at and as we get more into the recruiting groove, we'll definitely look at that aspect. thank you for that. i'd encourage we have a big press unit, you know, press releases and, you know, really, really proactive finding new avenues

for recruitment would be helpful, right? because six recruits is unfortunately i mean, we got some, but i'm i'm glad that or i hope we can get more people applying. and just one clarification on the six just so everybody those are laterals. so those classes are a little different. like that wasn't directly us going out and recruiting a bunch of people who didn't. so we've that that is a group of laterals and the other class lazaro was talking about. we'll start, i believe, at the end of the september. i don't have the direct number, but we can get you that that will be following this class that's graduating. well, even lateral poaching, whatever it takes, right. recruit thing. okay. recruiting, recruiting. um, another question i'd ask for this information. last week and the chief said that he would provide an update this week and it has to do with those young people during the hill bomb whose charges were dropped and

they were juveniles, the chief was unclear about whether their records being cleared was something that automatically happened through probation, through the juvenile probation department. i'm pretty sure that doesn't happen that way. we have a representative from the public defender's office who can tell us, you know what, it really takes the clean slate program and all these procedures. but i think that it would behoove us to explore, especially in an instance where over 80 individuals were arrested and those charges were dropped, that they don't have to go through the procedure of a clean slate program of an appeal to a judge or whatever, that case may be. do we have that information, commissioner? i do not have that. on first glance. i will look through my binder to just double check and maybe ask a question, but i don't have that. i know you asked a few questions. i don't have that particular answer at this moment. if we can have that answer next week, because i've asked it a few times and i know that it shouldn't be that

challenging. i mean, it's law or it should be written somewhere, right? okay. we'll do so. that would be really helpful. um another, i mean, i before our break had a mentioned the fact that there was an article about the increase in use of force. it was supposed to be agendize for last week and then the use of force conversation went somewhere else last week. i'd like to know what your comments are with your opinion is about that fourth quarter report. we their use of force incidents went up, skyrocketed to 25 to 1 for african americans in comparison to our white residents and 3 to 1 for latinos and our white residents. do you have any idea why that increase was so sudden? there was also in that report and in that document , another chart that demonstrated that arrest for white people are actually going down while arrests for black and brown people are going up. do we

have any idea how these or what is the reason for these increases? yeah i haven't had the opportunity to read the report. i didn't know that this was going to be an issue brought up at the commission tonight, but we will definitely be prepared to respond to that question and get to the bottom of it. i don't want to speculate and say maybe there was one particular incident that caused the spike. i know we got through the change in policy. some time ago where the numbers were really up and then they came back down because we changed the criteria. but if it's acceptable to you, we will look into it and definitely be able to report back. please thank you. thank you. commissioner benedicto. thank you. acting president carter oberstar. i just one note. thank you for your report , acting chief. i think that we learned i'd like to congratulate the class that's graduating tomorrow. i had the privilege of attending. i think, every graduation since i was on the commission. i think due to the change in venue, we learned that

they've asked the commissioners not to attend to focus on the family of the of the recruits. so i don't think i don't think we made the cut this time. but we do want to express our congratulations to the recruits. well, you did have the invitation for me. so i did have you in mind. i didn't know about this that i think we reached out. we can all are welcome. but i think right now i'm sitting here today. all are welcome. thank you. all right. all right. assistant chief was our welcome. it's nice to have you here tonight. just one question for me, which last week i asked chief for an update out on this new initiative that started a couple of months ago to arrest drug users more aggressively and ask for the total number of arrests and the number of those arrested who had accepted treatment. and i'm just wondering if we have any updated numbers. i know no updated numbers. i did provide in my weekly report just now about the 89 or so arrests that we made

this week totaling total arrests that involve sellers and both users. but but we will definitely come back to this commission with the with the response. i believe, if i understand your question correctly, is, is out of all the drug users that we arrest, how many have accepted services or have been connected to. that's right. last week, the total was 467 arrests, two had accepted services. and so i was just wondering if there was any update on either of those numbers. but if not, we'll circle back next week. okay thank you. okay. thank you. sergeant, can we go to public comment for members of the public? they'd like to make public comment regarding line item for the chief's report. please approach the podium and there is no public comment. line item five directors report discussion report on recent activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for future commission meeting. good evening. so this

week i'll start off with a thank you. i'll start off with our stats. so so far this year we have opened 562 new cases. this year we currently have about 302 cases that are pending. and of those cases that we have pending, about 22 of them have longer investigation options that have investigations that have gone past nine months. and of those 22 cases, 17 of them are cold cases, meaning that there are civil or criminal legal issues, pausing the tolling of the time for the investigations. in terms of the cases that we still have pending decisions on, we have seven cases that are pending decisions with the commission and 87 cases that are still awaiting decisions with the chief. so and

more of these details obviously, are online. i'm not going to go line by line through all of the numbers one by one. but in case folks want more information or want to review that information, it's available on our website. during the report, i typically review and talk about the number of cases that have come in that week. and so for this week, we can talk about the allegations that have come in. again, these are allegations. so this week, 29% of the allegations involve old allegations that officers either behaved or spoke inappropriately to the public. and 14% of the allegations involved allegations that officers failed to take required actions as requested from the public. the full breakdown of all of the allegations, again, is on our website. but i will focus on just the top ones, the top allegations in terms of

districts this week was central. that had three complaints points . complainants came in addressing complaints in the central central district and all of the information with all of the precincts, again, is on on the website for the department of police accountability and director henderson, thank you for your report. i wasn't done. oh, i thought that was it. no i was just turning the page. hold on it. i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i know. i know. sorry. i was okay . you threw me off. yeah, okay. i was. i was creating a dramatic pause for the rest of the information in terms of outreach this week as an update for last week's announcements, our community connect took place. the mediation division is going to take take place on october 3rd from noon to two, and that's

going to take place on one eight eight inches the embarcadero for folks that are interested in that information, please feel free to reach out to us at outreach at sfo .org information is already online in terms of how to register folks who are interested in following up with that information on as as well as the audits that i mentioned this last week. we're following up on the status of the recommendations made in prior dpr audits regarding sfpd's compliance with dgo 8.10 and we are still currently reviewing documentation provided by the department regarding the destruction of files of investigation is governed by dgo 8.10. we don't have anything in closed session this evening. present in the courtroom though, is senior investigate. later. ali schultz, who is here, and ali, if you don't mind following up with the young woman that spoke with us earlier to see if

there's some way that we can be helpful with what's been going on with her case as well. she's here tonight. if that's helpful for you. also present this evening is our director of recruiting and hiring tonight of thompson and the chief of staff from the office is sarah hawkins at and one of the lawyers from our policy division, jermaine jones. i'm just making sure i'm not missing any staff. also one of our interns from the summer, maddie is here, unpaid right now. so thank you for being here for this. for folks that have questions about about anything involving the department of police accountability, our website is sf gov.org/dpr. you can also contact us on the phone . (415)!a241-7711. we have a couple of agenda items on the

docket tonight, but i will reserve my conversations until we call those items. agenda item seven and agenda item eight. i think that concludes my report. thank you, mr. president. commissioner yanez. uh, thank you for the report. director henderson, i just have one question. i know that previous lee asked about a five year analysis and you guys are working that. really appreciate it. is this an unusual no increase in cases opened in your experience from 22 to 23 through what, three quarters? about not necessarily it fluctuate rates on it's there's so many different i think you're asking me why. right but there's so many different factors that determine on the volume of cases that come in and the complaints that are being made, the kind of complaints that are being made in so many thing affects those things. for instance, if something is getting a lot of

media or press attention an or there's a big event that a lot of people know about, people will observe or have things that they have concerns about that they raise more and more. we're growing broader complaints are coming in from ancillary partners like the public defender's office, the coalition on homelessness, the bar association, the aclu. just it just depends. it's really hard to gauge what people are observing or what people are pointing out that are going to be specific issues, but which is part of why we record all of it and it gets turned over to the commission so that you can see we've only in real time what comes into the department for people to evaluate not just what they're seeing, but even what the allegations are independently of what is being sustained or proven from the investigation as as part of discipline. i don't know if that answers the question. it does. thank you. and it was kind of an

underhand pitch for you to just congratulate your outreach team . but thank you for that report. we really try and focus on the agencies and the community parties that heretofore weren't connected to governmental agencies that have real concerns , concerns that have restrictions, real or perceived about speaking to authoritative agencies, but want to have a voice to articulate concerns. very well put. oh, thank you, commissioner byrne. um, director henderson, last week i asked about the number of officers that complaints were made about related to the dolores hill bombing. you did, and i had that in my notes and couldn't remember what this note meant. and that's exactly what it meant. and so we talked about that, and i said that i would get a report and would submit

that some of those details which i submitted, i think it's going to be discussed specifically in an upcoming meeting. but just to reference that, we talked about . the number of complaints and the volume of complaints that translated into allegations that were being made. if i'm not incorrect, because i think i was telling you offline, but not publicly from yesterday when i got the information from last week that it was six specific complaints. but but between 70 and 80 full allegations owns. so it was six officer calls that were complained about of no. six allegations, six complaint notes . am i saying that right that yeah i'll ask my chief of staff . there were six separate complaints filed called complainants don't often tie it

to a specific officer because they might not know. it might have been several officers. so it was six individual complaints . okay. that kind of referenced the whole incident or different aspects of the incident. right because it was difficult from the meeting that we had to figure out exactly the effects. so six complaints have been filed with dpa. okay correct. thank you. and that number, in terms of articulating the specific number of officers involved is still part of an ongoing thing. and so the number fluctuates. but yeah, you may you made that clear. i got that. yeah. sometimes they don't. thank you, director. thank you, director henderson. just one question for me this morning. the standard published in article covering a discipline case brought by dpa against an officer that alleges falsified

race data when making traffic stops is obviously certain parts of disciplinary disciplinary proceedings are not public and can't be discussed. but my question is not about that particular case, but whether dpa and its what i've heard award winning audit team plans on plans on conducting an audit or any investigation to determine whether this was an isolated incident or whether there is more widespread practice and any cause for concern about the integrity of sfpd. stop data. so those are things that we are involved in already. and just to give context, a lot of that information relates to the data. that's the data that's required. that requires law enforcement agencies to provide data to a central database about the racial makeup of people that are stopped, searched and detained.

and a lot of these practices outside of ripa in california are nationwide practices. however, that data in order to be accurate and helpful, needs to service purpose by being accurate. and so we already know that if we have bad information that goes into those recordings, then we get bad data that comes out of those recordings. the rule is that officers have to input what the perceived race of the individuals that they've stopped, searched or detained nationwide. we've seen this issue come up already and audits and investigations revealing that officers and jurisdictions have not accurately reported the data that they're required to report about the race of the people stopped, detained and searched. and there's a number of cases that i won't go into, but there's a number of states

and counties, louisiana, missouri, l.a. county the state of connecticut, all involving racial profiling systems. so here in california, it's ripa and we have uncovered and issues here in san francisco with sfpd as well. and again you alluded to it but i can't talk about specific cases and specific investigations. but but we have conducted investigations and have reviewed open data where issues have come up, specifically involving proper and accurate entry of this kind of data. and we've seen three basic different type of stop data issues. and those those discrepancies involve three different types of problems. one where officers are not entering any data for the stops where

they're required to enter data to officer enter the wrong race of the person. they've stopped at. for example, a person clearly identified as african-american often is identified as caucaso an and three where officers enter multiple races for the people being stopped to obscure any obvious or specific racial makeup. and so that's what the problem is. and those are some of the issues that we've come across. yes. and i know the article was talking about it, but again, the article was very specific in ways that i couldn't i can't even comment on and can't be specific about. all right. thank you. that's helpful. it sounds it sounds like maybe there's been some at least preliminary review of the data that's revealed, at least some additional issue. does that warrant further investigation? i

did want to invite assistant chief lazarre to comment on this at all, if you have a comment, only because it is my understanding that the department is under an ongoing obligation to audit its own stop data. is the department regularly, regularly auditing its own stop data? has it discovered any issues that would call into question the integrity of the data? yeah commissioner, what i can say is that that in terms of auditing, one of the things we do is we, we our standard operating procedure for auditing is to determine the amount of stops versus the amount of entries to see if there's a discrepancy there. in terms of the numbers, for example, just arbitrarily, if you had 1000 stops, is there a thousand data entry? what we're going to need to do is look a little further at this point and do some comparisons based on this information that we have received. of course, there's an ongoing investigation. i can't speak to, but we definitely need

to further that audit to make sure that we're looking at what's being entered versus who's being stopped. so and so will your audit go beyond that issue? because obviously, that wouldn't account for a lot of the other issues being raised in the article. so it just to be clear, your audit about looking at number of stops versus number of entries wouldn't detect if an officer was was recording the incorrect race. so is there going to be an audit to look at all of those different potential issues? yeah, we're going to have to look at what that workload entails and what we need to do. we're also going to have to, at minimum, do auditing in terms of random auditing to see see in terms of the comparisons for the stops and who has been stopped. but yeah, there's more work to be done based on what we're discovering. we have to address it and we have to make sure that those who are not doing it are held accountable. yeah, i'm glad to

hear you say that, that we have to address it because i think we have to. i agree. we have to address it. and i think i quickly perused the 2016 d.o.j. cops report on my way here. and this is one of the issues covered in the report and in particular at pages 356 357 it talks about the necessity of thorough not just thorough audits, but thorough out side independent audits and gauging academic institutions and other partners who can come in and be a third party to actually verify that outside of sfpd. it doesn't seem like we are for following that recommendation. and given these latest revelations, i do think that that would be i think the commission needs to take this issue up more fully. but i think that needs to be something on the table that we're considering, whether it's in an outside organization or bringing in this comptroller and cpa or

some combination of that. i think that this is maybe something to be agendized and taken up more fully by the commission. the last thing i'll ask you, assistant chief, is there is a unit order on the books requiring periodic auditing. 20 1-01. so to be clear, for members of the public, a unit order is imposed and not by the commission, but something that the department imposed upon itself in this case , captain eric altaffer signed this unit order on july of 2021, and it does specify early. it talks about the general necessity for periodic auditing, but it calls out three categories. and one of those is the stop data, the sdc's data, and the importance of doing quarterly audits. for next commission meeting for the

chief's report. i would like the department to furnish the commission with the last year of quarterly audits that were done pursuant to unit order 20 1-01 so that we can at least review the work that's that's already been completed. and okay. thank you. great. thank you. appreciate it. director henderson. thank you. if i can just say, you mentioned you summarized a lot of the stuff. i would say, though, that you know, we take this very seriously and the inaccurate see of this data speaks directly to the foundation of the groundbreaking legislation that was aimed at computing these systemic inequities in law enforcement. so i do think that this is something that we should be taking very seriously and really should be focusing on. and you mentioned the possibility of working with the

controller's office on an independent sort of audit. we also are capable of doing such audits with an expanded type of practice. right now we are near capacity with our charter mandate, but charter mandated investigations with both policy and work that we're doing. but i don't want to give short shrift to the option or the opportunity 80 for partner with an academic institution or an independent agency as well. and i know you mentioned it, but beyond just thinking aspirationally, we about preparatory plans, i think it needs to be something that is focused and specific to make sure that something is going to happen specifically beyond just

the caseload from what dpa is working on and beyond just the issues that dpa is uncovering and validating, if we had more access to the information. that, as you already articulated, should have been provided or should exist just in some of those unit orders and requirements from the department already. so great. thank you, director anderson seeing no other names in the queue. sergeant, could you take us to public comment for members of the public that would like to make public comment regarding line item five, the dpa director's report, please approach the podium. i'm new to this and i was just listening to what you were saying and like i wouldn't presume somebody pronouns, i wouldn't presume somebody anything wrong. so i'm wondering if it just is it not policy or appropriate or i mean,

i don't know for the police officer to ask the person's race as opposed to trying to guess it and put it down and then get it wrong. i'm just you know, because i wouldn't know or i wouldn't presume to know what anybody's race actually is. so i'm just curious if that actually could be helpful in in asking the police to just ask like they ask for many things. thank you. i've asked the same i have asked the same question. i know that we will be agenda izing this because there is a way to reconcile this information. right. and we know that that report has been very skewed, to say the least. and this article that i haven't read apparently also substantiates underscores this. so i'm hoping we agendize this asap. but answer your question, there's nothing in san francisco that prohibits us from having an

officer ask an individual to self-report their own ethnicity or race. and there is no further public comment. line item six commission reports discussion of possible action commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raised for future commission meeting. commission president's report. commissioner's reports and commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting. commissioner walker. i would like to say i went to i mean, i hope all of you watched or went to the officer involved shooting town hall regarding the handling

shooting really well presented and i really appreciate the work that goes into those. i think it really helps the public to understand, to understand what happens in those events and really get how intense those things are. so i really appreciated that. i also was invited to the to a meeting in the tenderloin specifically about it with some of the community members and chief scott. people really appreciate being there. it's really traumatic for folks to go through that. our officers, as well as the public and, you know, it just really helps for us to have these conversations. so i really appreciate the outreach you all are doing, not just in the tenderloin, but i think in every district, the more that we can meet, you know , i know that we've we've gotten requests from the public to open up public comment online again. but i think a better solution

would be to meet out in the neighborhoods. so i really want to encourage us sometimes to schedule meetings out in the neighborhoods, especially neighborhoods that are having issues so that we can be out there and people can we can hear people. i'm happy to help with that. i know it's kind of a hassle, but i think a few times a year it would really be nice to be able to meet out. i've also been meeting, as i said, with a group of folks who are looking at the 3030 commitment at. we had a really interesting conversation today with state and national child care program . um, folks who are working, especially with the state on some pilot programs in san diego and los angeles, and they would love to include our city to be able to offer child care to our officers. i think it would be really helpful, especially so many are working overtime. i think it's a hard situation, but

, you know, we asked we asked to we have some action items around finding potential locations near our stations. i suggested looking into some of these retail stores that are empty that maybe if we can get some long term commitments, it might be good to have child care facilities in our neighborhood. commercial areas. i think that there's a lot that people are really doing statewide on this issue. so i'll report back. also, we were scheduled for another meeting with the city attorney and ac lozar on the patrol specials. just getting up to date on all the current status and legal advising. and we're preparing to have a presentation at the commission next week just to sort of bring it all together to talk about what we're thinking and what the department is thinking. i think that the community is supportive of these when they've had patrol

special beads and officers that work well with our with our officers and our department. so i think it would be helpful if we can have a discussion at the commission level. so i appreciate it. all the work we've done, i know that it it's been a it's been a long research project to get clear on what's happening. so i really appreciate that. thank you. thank you. commissioner benedicto thank you, mr. president. a couple of things. first, i would like to echo what the acting chief and commissioner yee and director henderson said to the woman who spoke today. thank you for your your candor and your courage in talking to us and, you know, this is a body that sometimes has many different views on most different issues. but i can tell you that we unequivocally and all believe that what happened to you and these kinds of acts are unacceptable. they have no

place in our city. they have no place in our society. and our country as as the son of immigrants who fled repressive regime to come here and have themselves faced their share of discrimination. thank you for coming out tonight. and i'm glad that hopefully some of the resources made available to you will help. but thank you for that. i had to recently, as our the commission audit liaison, i had to reschedule our regular meeting with dpa's audit chief steve flaherty. but that should be rescheduled and i'll report back to the commission when that happens. as i also had a conversation with the department on implementing some of the audit recommendations from prior audits, particularly in the area of the audit, about some of the it and technology issues, which i think are some low hanging fruit that we can knock out. i'm going to resume those conversations with the department now that we're back from recess like a number of commissioners and members of the public. i also read the story in

the standard about the officer and the potential misreporting of race data. while i know we can't get into the specific facets of the case, the this is not the first department in the country where mr. porting of race data has now been seen and i think it's been noted by director henderson, by commissioner jones, by president carter oberstein, that this is a really serious issue. we are a policy making body and can only make good policy if we are presented with good and reliable data and when there are implications that there might be threats to the integrity of that data, those should be taken very seriously so we can continue our policy and oversight role, recognize that that article just came out today. i don't expect for there to be a plan, but i would like to agendize for the future to see if the department can come up with an action plan on how to deal with a larger systemic issue of ensuring that

we're doing a good job and preventing any issues when it comes to misreporting of data. because we are seeing that again in that story. but as well as in a number of other departments. so i'll make sure we're getting ahead of that. thank you, commissioner yee, thank you very much. there chair carter was just want to echo what commissioner deborah walker said about the officer involved shooting it was it was very helpful for the community to see what happened. i guess, through that video that i did see, it was the final video clip that was provided by, i guess, the residents up on top where you had a top view of what really happened on that officer shooting because on the ground floor, you just seeing this, what's coming towards you at that time? um, but on the elevation video, you did see that knife come out. it was

wasn't just a regular knife. it was a hunting knife. he was coming toward the officers. i know this person needed help. it's very tragic that it happened. i wish we could have done it, handle it differently. but it is what it is. so i want to thank the officer for, you know, their commitment of public safety. this one also report out that commissioner burns and myself and acting chief david lazaro attended the 75th annual fire police and sheriff mass. i just want to give condolence and tribute to the officers, retirees that did pass and i say, i guess bless the officers and keeping them safe going forward. so that ends my report . thank you. commissioner yanez . thank you. acting president

carter oberstar done a quick report. i do want to just clarify that last week i was out and wasn't able to give a proper update on certain items just because i wasn't in a good place. but i am in a better place today. and with regards to our investigative social media working group, i know janelle did a great job of kind of summarizing some of the issues that have been raised by our stakeholders in the various areas that we're working with. we have people over at cal berkeley, at stanford, at the brennan center. we've got all hands on deck. the public defender's office has already submitted their recommendations and they are are, you know, pretty lengthy. but i want to clarify that we did request and obtain an extension to complete the work around social media. janelle indicated that it was a hard line of december, but we actually did not want to create a timeline with a finite date at

this point just because there is a lot to sift through as far as the myriad recommendations that are being provided by the different groups. so just wanted to provide that update. and i'm also working with some community partners on the prebooking diversion in an effort to try to identify the best direction to take with that and a group of folks that came and presented or spoke during the hill bomb presentation reached out to try to create an opportunity for the department to engage separate some community best practices around youth development. and i really hope that the department takes this group up on their offer and that we can create some opportune cities for them to contribute to and collaborate, which will actually, you know, facilitate better community policing outcomes comes the other other

thing that i've been working on is around identifying how we can work with the juvenile probation department to ensure that we are coordinating our efforts both with the diversion that is in place right now with the community assessment and referral center so that we can set the groundwork for a pretrial sorry, pre booking diversion program. so those are my updates for today. i do want to agendize. i know that the report data collection seems to already have been agendized, but considering some of the comments that have been made and the ongoing challenges that we have with both recruitment and increasing our policing, staffing, i'd like to agendize the sojourn investment because i believe we're on year three. and from what i understand today, we

have 70 officers away for probably a full week when we are this short staffed. i really believe that it is a necessary to find out what purported or projected outcomes we have have for this investment in sojourn, because if we have 70 officers away from, you know, a couple of times a year, because i don't know necessarily feel that, consider bring the staffing shortages and challenges that it's the best use of our resources right now. so i'd like to schedule a presentation to find out what exactly the tangible outcomes have been considering that report that said that you know, the discrepancies and disproportionate minority impacts are still increasing. so that's my agenda item. and my report. thank you. thank you. assistant chief lazarre. yes. thank you very much. so commissioner yanez, just for

clarification, so we do have a sojourn trip taking place. there are not 70 officers on the trip . there's probably around 70 people, but there's many folks from the community, from from all over the city. there's other city government people, people from the nonprofit that i don't have the exact number of officers as i am grateful that you and i were on a sojourn trip together and learned. personally speaking, i learned a lot about american history and a lot about the history and policing in hopes to really educate our members and the public about what that history and how we can be better in policing. so we'll get you the exact number, but there's not 70 officers that have left the city. it's a much, much, much smaller number. and we feel like when we bring the community with us, we just have that much better of an experience like the experience we had. so thank you. thank you. just one update for me. last week the commission approved revisions to dgo 5.01 to set out clear standards for when

officers could preemptively or proactively deploy spike strips. the whole commission supported it and want to thank once again commissioner benedicto, lieutenant jonas and janelle caywood for their work on that. and we also learned how effective the preemptive deployment is as a tool. all we were told in the latest 15 month period, there were 46 preemptive deployments, which resulted in 82 arrests, roughly 360 cases closed and 331 firearms arms recovered, including four assault rifles. and the only negative was one relatively minor injury. so while i certainly support the revisions that will set out clear standards for when we can use them, what i don't support is i don't support sfpd's decision to unilaterally suspend the preemptive use of spike strips pending the revision of 5.01. as i said last week, i don't think

that it was necessary to suspend the use pending the revision. i don't think that there's anything in the current policy that prohibits it. and so next week i'm going to introduce a resolution that will interpret our current policies to permit the preemptive use of spike strips. this will allow officers to resume using spike strips preemptively immediately upon the passage of the resolution and they won't have to wait for the multi-month meet and confer process and then for the commission to vote on it again. and then typically there's another delay for training. so i just wanted to let the community know and let officers know that i spoke with assistant chief lazaro and he assured me that the department would support this resolution. so i'm hopeful that my colleagues will as well and just wanted to let officers know that hopefully next week, this time at 530, they can start using spike strips preemptively

again. sergeant, can you take us to public comment for members of the public? do like to make public comment regarding line item six commission reports, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item seven presentation and introduction of dpa's fall interns and internship program discussion. and go. to

good evening. active acting president carter oberstein police commissioners ac lazard executive director henderson members of our community and members of our community watching and listening at home. i would like to. my name is tanita rockmore thompson. i'm a lawyer and the director of recruitment for the department of police accountability. it is an honor and privilege to be before you tonight to present to you our fabulous summer 2023 law and justice cohort. this has been our largest cohort. you saw us in the beginning of the summer. we are now down to the one representing our summer cohort and one representing our fall. this is madison donahue, wolfe and i will say that she is the current managing editor of the usf law review. i want to

give her those props right now and our incoming fall intern, law clerk, hannah hutton, who will be joining us next week. and i am just so delighted to present this program. if we can cue up the intro slides, please . this summer we had a ten week professional development program , um, roughly from june to august and roughly about 75% of those interns were funded. and the majority of that is through mayor breed's. opportunities for all program, which we cannot have made possible if we did not have that resource. we had 23 interns, again, our largest cohort, 50% of them were lost students and 50% undergraduate. and i am proud to say that 87% were underrepresented minority. but that's just not all that we had in our program. we wanted to have a diversity pipeline to bring back to the city, which is

why we expose them to the various public and private sectors that we all intersect and work with. as a san francisco agency. so we were looking and we were intentional with our recruitment. this past year, we went to the hbcus using our own personal funds. so we can get that diverse applicant. we looked internally, we went through opportunities for all we eliminated, eliminated some of those facts that may have been barriers for some students to apply for because we wanted that student because we know that it's more than what our standardized tests will bring, what it's what's more than what your gpa will bring, that systemic racism has hindered and made a challenge throughout the years. we have students that are not only diverse from racial and ethnic backgrounds, but also socioeconomic first generation out of state. you know, immigrant immigrant resources. you know, women, you know, lgbtq

, plus all of those were represented in this internship program. and i cannot be absolutely more proud of them. we actually, with the help of opportune cities for all and dr. davis of the human rights commission provided transportation and housing at usf for eight weeks. we collaborated with ten city departments, which made this program even more out standing, which included our oci district, ten housing authority, sf da's office, juvenile probation office of cannabis arts commission department on the status of women and of course, dpr. we had 12 field trips and activities, again intersecting the public and private sector and 20 to guest speakers from the public and private sector, which all made for an amazing program. it was impacted. it was not only a lot of work, but it was also a lot of fun and we

wanted to expose them to san francisco to let them know what we have to offer here because one day we want them to come back. we want them to be part of our community and we want them to be part of the city and county of san francisco. and this also was a huge part of our racial equity and our racial equity action plan because of the diverse city that we brought and the diversity that we brought to these ten city agencies as well. again, we were very intentional and we wanted to show that and we wanted to highlight that. again, this program would not be made possible without dr. davis. sarah williams and terry jones and opportunities for all jcc mayor breed and opportunities for all our own executive director paul david henderson for giving us the vision and for supporting it throughout our entire executive staff. every every person at dpr, our operations unit, our mentors at dpr, we were able to provide all 23 students with mentors at dpr.

and, you know, we're a small agency, but we were able to have them double up, you know, maybe 2 or 3. but we wanted them to have that so they can see what dpr is like, what we do, and, you know, just wasn't lawyers who were mentors. we had it from every level. we had our investigators, our senior investigators, our our audit division, our mediation unit. you know, all of our all of our units came together to make this a memorable summer for these young people who i have now officially, my 23 other children, in addition to my one son. so, again, and of course, our amazing public service aide and intern coordinator, karen turner, without her, this wouldn't be possible. and so with that, i present to you what they've been working on so hard for is our our presentation of a policy recommendation that they do every year as part of being part of dpa's cohort. and here

we have them. yeah. oh this internship experience has definitely helped us with our professional development and we are confident that many of our skills and knowledge we've gained this summer will be used in our careers no matter the path we all take down the road. we will now begin introductions . and we have fabian, wesley, jeremiah. i'm just mentioning a few. it's kind of slide, but you see the logos on the side are each of their agencies that they were housed at. stationed. and

we took as part of their professional development, we took headshots during this internship, we had an hbcu cohort. there were students from morehouse and howard university that received funding and housing. thanks to opportunities for all. this summer we were all placed at the department of police accountability, which is an oversight agency that by executive director paul david henderson invested gates complaints filed against senator civil police officers conduct audits of police department practices. additionally, dpr proposes changes to existing policy as well as recommends new policy to both the police commission and sfpd. collectively, the dpr staff works to ensure that city law enforcement follows their practice and operates with the goal of improving all

interactions and all interactions between officers and the public. there are only a small portion of the many interns that spent their summer at dpr. the group holds a mix of law students and undergrads, including students from all over the country. we spent our time eating deep staff of varying capacities as well as visiting and hearing from speakers in every corner of the legal field before we move on, we would like to acknowledge and recognize dr. cheryl davis, who is the executive director of the city's human rights commission. it is with her work and contributions that made funding for this internship for roughly half of our interns possible through opportunities for all. thank you so much, dr. davis. and these were some of their favorite intern moments, especially when they got to go to a working group session on a department general order and participate. they were very excited. they were very excited about it. i was at that one. i'm just happy they didn't fall asleep. no, look, that was the highlights. it's a highlight and made the

highlights read and analyzed bias uncovering the hidden prejudice that shapes what we see, think and do by dr. jennifer eberhardt in this book, she defines implicit bias as a kind of distorting lens that has the power to bias our perception, our attention, our memory and our actions, all despite our conscious awareness or deliberate intentions. her book guided our weekly group discussions and helped inspire our policy proposal that we will present to you today. the next two slides discuss how implicit bias manifests in forms like cross-racial bias and dr. eberhardt's example of implicit bias through a case study of airbnb. pursuant to our summer research in dpr findings, our intern cohort has created a policy proposal regarding officer witness interactions which will attempt to reduce implicit bias

. currently, the sfpd does not have a comprehensive policy for officer witness interactions. the closest dgos focus on interactions with people from specific populations who are not necessarily witnesses. dpr has received numerous complaints regarding how sfpd conducts witness procedures. these include making witnesses wait too long and stations before giving their statements, not having visitor logs to keep track of how long witnesses wait and not taking statements from witnesses because the officers decided the witness will provide evidentiary value. we believe that a comprehensive officer witness dgo may fix this disconnect with the community as well as address implicit biases that affect witness identifications. we suggest that sfpd implement the following recommendations on procedural regulations and

community outreach and education for federal regulations. we recommend two approaches to improving sfpd proceedings surrounding officer witness interactions. one by utilizing the universal color complexion chart, which consists of varying skin tones covering the spectrum of human coloring. this color spectrum will combat the single race category, which often is over relied upon by law enforcement and fuels inaccuracy in witness statements. s two. we recommend implementing eyewitness identification procedures such as the pre administration instruction in which notifies witnesses that the suspect may not be present in the lineup and informs them that i don't know is an appropriate response, as well as sequential lineups, which encourage the witness to compare individuals to their own description of the suspect instead of comparing individuals to each other. outreach and education to further mitigate implicit bias through community policing. we recommend that sfpd implements a community awareness campaign for reporting suspects or suspicious activity. this can

look like training officers to ask a standardized series of questions to elicit responses about specific suspect characteristics and promoting community outreach to educate the public on descriptor training. using specific adjectives to describe suspects or specific behavior. lastly, we recommend that the sfpd create a how to page on their website that outlines specific ways witnesses can effectively describe suspects or suspicious activity. these are just some low effort, high impact ways to mitigate implicit bias and increase witness accuracy in suspect identification. thank you for your time and attention and we hope you have enjoyed our presentation. i just want to say i'm so proud. i know there watching wherever they are. some are back on the east coast at howard. we did have a hbcu cohort and at morehouse college, the first time we've ever done that. the first time that it's actually been done in the city strategically to have an hbcu

cohort. we're so proud of that. this is totally their own work. they did everything. we just made sure that it was in the parameters and within the guidelines lines. but i just want to say i'm so proud of the work that these young people did over the summer. they really they were you know, we wanted them to bond. we wanted them to interact, and we wanted them to put forth a product that they know that could make a difference. and using the tools that they had around them. so thank you so much for your time , director henderson great. just thank you so much and thank you all for your attention with this. we really put a lot of work into the program, not just through the summer but through the year as well. but i just really want to come in on the intentionality, be reflected in the diversity of the program that we've put together that goes beyond just the dpa and expands into all of these partner agencies that heretofore or would not have access either

to the students and the interns , but also would not have as broad a pipeline that is intentional about diversity as we do now have with this program. and it does take a village, but i would be remiss if i didn't acknowledge and convey gratulate neta for doing so much of the labor and the work to both build out the program and manage the program on a day to day basis. both in taking out her personal time, using her vacation days, spending her evenings and weekends, both in building out the relationships and making sure that the program gets done and executed ad well, as well as kieran turner this summer. i wouldn't be here without their leadership that spills over and is directly focused on these young people that i believe were greatly improved. we've talked about some of the highlights from the program. i hope you all

can appreciate that. so many of the things that are built into this program that go beyond a typical internship program. and i think you see the results of that effort and what gets reflected to the commission in terms of them actually generating concrete and solid ideas that i think are valid and helpful for the work that we're doing. it's not lost on me that the presentation that was made tonight and making a recommendation about a witness specific dgo is a particular good one. oh, did i not have my microphone on? that's all right. i'll just keep talking. thank you. that speaks specifically not just to some of the issues that were raised in public comment today in terms of how folks are treated when they're interacting with law enforcement, but also directly addresses some of the race clarifications that i think were raised on some of our some of the issues that we've already been discussing. so i'd love to make sure that we have a follow up and we take steps to address

as a witness specific dgo as recommended by the summer interns that are here. and i thank you all, all thank you all for your attention. but thank you all those voices that aren't here that you saw reflected in the slide that have been supportive of the work. it really is not just impactful but meaningful to all of us doing the work to have folks working side by side with us. and so thank you once again, commissioner benedicto. thank you. thank you, mr. president. i also want to echo what director henderson said and thank you tonight and thank you to karen turner, and thank you to the interns both that are here and that are watching. it was a privilege to come go down and speak to them this summer. and, you know, for those that that are watching know that the last couple of presentations have translated directly to commission resolution ins and commission changes to the

department of general orders. so the work you did, in addition to being exemplary in its own right, will actually help contribute to make the city and county of san francisco better and to make our policing more transparent and accountable and fair. so thank you so much for your hard work. thank you so much. commissioner walker. thank you. thank you so much. thank you so much. the for the work that you do. all of you, all of you interns and the mentors, not just for dpa and the police commission and the police department, but for all for all of our agencies, our partner agencies. it's so important. i had a great opportunity. i was going to a community art event and ran into one of your interns , and we had just an amazing discussion about policing. and i, of course, handed him a joint joint sfpd, because i said we need police officers like you from the community. so i will

say that to anyone listening who is in the intern class, please consider to please consider a career in law enforcement. we need you. we need you because the training here, it is ironic . we were just talking about some of these things and this, you know, having having a witness that includes things of a chart around, you know, it sort of helps train people how to deal with this issue. we were talking about about ms. miscarriage authorizing race. when they're stopping, i mean, helping train around that issue will help turn around that issue. so it's really it is just ironic. maybe it isn't ironic, but thank you very much for this . you know, it's heartening and i really appreciate it, all of you and all of you interns. i'd also like to thank all the interns, both those present and those watching for their service to our city. many of them traveled far from home. they could have interned somewhere

closer. they could have interned somewhere with more generous compensation packages, but they chose to spend the summer with us. and as commissioner benedicto said, the interns have a long track record of making recommendations that are ultimately adopted. so their hard work and hard for little pay will not be for naught. and i imagine this year's class will be no different. i also want to thank miss thompson for all of your hard work to make this program what it is to make it an incredible experience for the interns and also make it something that results in such excellent work product consistently that the commission adopts. so thank you, sergeant. can we go to public comment for members of the public that would like to make public comment regarding line item seven, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment.

again, thank you for your continued support. commissioners absolutely. line item eight sfpd's firearm discharge review board report and in-custody death board report. second quarter 2023 discussion. good evening. commissioner carter oberstein commissioners director henderson and ac. our deputy chief peter walsh. i'm the deputy chief of administration. i'm going to be presenting the firearm ems discharge review board report along with the in-custody death review report. so it's for the second quarter of 2023. there's only two

incidents for the firearm discharge. review board is 22 004. and. 22 002. i will start with. 22 004. i'm not going to read verbatim. i'll give you an overview. i believe everybody has a copy this case was actually involving an sfpd officer who was under investigation and there was a service of a search warrant that took place on june 15th, 2022. investigators who handle these matters responded to the officer's residence with his personal attorney in order to have an easy way, way of getting into the home and negotiating the search. the isd members maintained surveillance at that case at some point, there was no response after an initial

contact had been made, the attorney went in and at that time the discharge took place and the officer suffered a self-inflicted gunshot wound. obviously in this case, the investigation found that unfortunately, due to department regulations, that's obviously not a case where the discharge of a firearm is within policy. and that recommendation, an has gone to the chief as not in policy. moving to the next case, officer involved shooting 22 002. this case actually took place outside of san francisco. so over in contra costa county, in concord, it happened on april 15th of last year. the officer was off duty at the time and was

awakened by a numerous shouts. and then what he thought to be shooting, he went to the window and saw his son being fired upon by an unknown assailant. the officer, in order to protect the life of his son, fired upon the assailant. it is unknown whether or not that assailant was hit. there was no information or any evidence to show that that person was hit at that at that location. contra costa sheriff's investigators and the da investigators, da's office handled that case as in regards to this. obviously, the officer was were making the recommendation to the chief that the general rules of conduct were in policy, the use of force. specifically, why the fb was here was voted on in policy and the recommendation that the

actual investigation of that officer involved shooting was in policy. and that is it for the report. there were no in-custody deaths during that quarter for this review. i do want to point out one thing for our i believe the commission is aware to, but general or excuse me, department notice 23 143 did come out on september 8th and that now enlists formally the training division within crb to help review the tactics and the actions of officers as they have been there in a non formal way. they're invited outside of what you see in the current general order and this general order is 3.10 and it is under revision at this time. i'm happy to answer

any questions. thank you. deputy chief walsh. that last statement that you made, i just wanted to ask you about the training division being included going forward during the review board deliberations. was that specifically in response to the officer who took his own life? no this had been in the works. if you look at the old policy, it's a very who's listed the deputy chief of administration, the commanding officer. it's very limited to really just the voting members. and a couple advisory. so this was just a formal way it had been looked at for a while. and as the revision, as you know, is going on, that is something that we've had great success outside of shootings. but using the academy and the training staff up there to teach our officers better tactics and better ways to respond, all the way from simple arrests, all the way to, unfortunately officer involved shootings. okay. i understand. thank you for that clarification. i guess i would ask and it was on my mind

because i recall when this was first reported in the news and there were at least in news articles, there was one in the standard, at least eight questions posed about the way the warrant was executed. and in that case, because if i recall, there was this particular officer was known to have, i think the way it was described by one person was an unhealthy obsession with guns. i think he had he was known to have mental health issues and exhibited some erratic behavior for i think he might have had a domestic violence restraining order against him. is there any internal discussion about tactics when executing a warrant against an officer or a person with these kind of constellation of traits where you might have a tragic ending like this or you might be able to avoid a tragic ending like this, there is

actually a formal investigation action. i believe that i'm not 100% sure if that's been completed yet, but i do know within that that is being looked at a specific basically warrants. i'll bifurcate it. we do handle warrants in a certain way. you may know or have knowledge of using a threat matrix where if it hits a certain number, we change the tactics. all the way up to executing with the swat team, the officer involved situation is this is the i can say in my career that i know of. i've been a part of two and reporting on this one officer involved search warrants and arrest warrants are extremely complex. and we've i can tell you i've again i've been involved one is the lead investigator where an officer has taken his life. and a second one where i was the commanding officer there, where the officers affected an arrest and

the person took their life, i don't know if we'll be able to come out with a box that we can necessarily put it in, but we're always striving that i can't speak. i don't have all the details on this case, just knowing it. but i know that there is a review on how to handle these these issues better . it is one intangible being a police officer who is subject to a search or arrest warrant on a very serious criminal matter that we need to concentrate on, on on how to handle that. thank you. and just one last question and please only answer if it's public and you're able to answer publicly, which is do are you able to say what the basis of the search warrant was that was being executed that day? i don't know if that search warrants public. and i personally don't have the details of it. all right. thank you. i see no names in the queue. so, sergeant, could you please take us to public comment for members of the public that would like to

make public comment regarding line item eight, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item nine public comment and all matters pertaining to item 11 below closed session, including public comment on item ten vote whether to hold item 11 in closed session. if you'd like to make public comment, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item ten vote on whether to hold item 11 in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10. action motion to hold the item in closed session. second on on the motion. commissioner walker, how do you vote? yes, mr. walker is yes. commissioner benedicto. yes mr. benedicto is yes. commissioner yanez. yes mr. janez is yes. commissioner byrne . yes. commissioner byrne is. yes. commissioner yee yes. commissioner yee is yes. and vice president carter overstone yes, vice president stone is. yes. you have 2023 >> city of san francisco

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>> item 11b was taken off calendar. >> line item 11 b was taken off calendar and will be later rescheduled at a different commission meeting. >> line 13. >> >> >>television.

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>> the meeting will come to order welcome to the september 20. 2023 meeting of budget and finance i'm connie chan chair. i'm joined by rafael mandelman and short low by safai or clerk is brent jalipa i would like to

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analyst office for this with that, mr. clerk, call item 1. >> yes. item number one is a resolution levying property tax a combined rate of 1 opinion 17 on each 100 evidence for each property in san francisco office of education, san francisco community college district and bay your respectid transit and air quality management district and a year rate of 7 cents per 100 of assessment value for residential tenants pursuant to the code for fiscal year ending june 30 of 24. member when is joined remote and wish to comment press star 3 to enter the line. when the system indicates you have been un muted it is time to

comment. >> thank you. i always feeling conflicted with this discussion around pass through rates for tenants. pass through tax increase that pass through on tenants is always i feel conflicted here we are a must be done thing. or must be done matter. today we have jamie from the controller's office. thank you for being here. >> thank you. good morning budget commit eat annual legislation to setted secured property tax rate in san francisco. as well as taxicab the pass through rate for residential tenants. i have an over head. 2023-24 the for left the one percent is set as a fixed rate

for. general operations property tax for the city and county of san francisco. bart. school district. college and the bay air management district. the other fraktors this comprise 1.1638% property tax rate are for voter approved bonds debt service this fiscal year. the sea of san francisco general obligation voter approved bonds. the tax rate proposeed.1129 five 032% below the 05 and 6 bond tax rate factsor that's what we attempt to manage to to not exceed that 2005-6 rate. it is a slight reduction the over all tax rate compared to

the prior year. for a median taxable value residential dwelling, as of 2022-23. two % allowed increase by california cpi. bring its to 697, 310 this fiscal year. and the tax would be 147.18 higher in 23-24. this is all i have it present. i am happy to answer questions. >> thank you, i appreciate this and seeing no name on the roster i want to acknowledge that supervisor safai joined us and now am president supervisor peskin and with that let's about to public comment. >> thank you, members of the

public. >> bla report. sorry. >> good morning thank you, chair chan. nick from budget and legislative analyst office. item 1 annual resolution setting property tax rate for fiscal 23-24. showed the change in the composition of the property tax rate on page 4 of our report and note that this year's property tax decreasing.17%. this is the largest the general fund bring nothing 2.5 billion dollars in the budget we recommend approval. >> thank you. and let's go to public comment on that. thank you. >> members of public had wish to speak in person lineup now. and for those listening remote press star 3 to enter the line. and if you already in the queue continue it wait until you have been un muted.

and this will be your queue to begin comments. no one here in the chamber and we have no one in the queue. >> thank you. no public comment temperature is now closed. >> colleagues i like to move this to full board where wouldation. >> on that motion to forward to the full burden vice chair mandelman. >> aye >> member safai. >> aye >> chair chan. >> aye. >> thank you the motion pass. call item 2. >> item 2 is a resolution authorizing public works execute a professional service agreement with ross, architecture incorporated for design of the now sudden front fire department, fire training facility under the quake bond program. not to exceed 14. 1 million a term of 5 years options to extend for another 2 years upon the full execution of the contract and once funding cert

foiled. members joining remote press star 3. thanks. today we have scott public works project manager. i want to acknowledge assist deputy chief mill are from the fire department. good morning. thank you, chair chan support committee. i apologize i got back from germ neil and went to oktoberfest. so -- today -- would like to request the approval of the architecture and engineering

architect agreement for the fire training facility this is associated with the earthquake safer emergency bond of 2020. this is with rotsdz drumis the architects. and would be for design through construction for multiple buildings on the training and training structures on a site 880 are site at 1236 carroll avenue in the bayview district. there are 2 existing fire training facilities for the san francisco, 19th and folsom the original and it is mall and old. not learning enough for all the functions and the there also the treasure i land facility inherits from the u.s. nest and where most of the training functions happen currently.

and this fam sillity needs to be vacated for the development to happen. intent to combine all the training functions on one site upgrade and modernize the functions and try to be able it address the challenges and needs for current firefighters and future firefighters and pair medics. as part of the project includes an expand search and rescue. training facilities which are the main things that are dressed with earthquake collapses and things like this. this is funded from the 2020 bond measure program. the how ross was selected did i request for qualifications, advertised in august of 2021. 3 proposals were received. and than i were selected through the scoring process.

the civil service mission approved a professional services condition transact on in -- september of 21. and then the project was on hold for awhile and it was renewed again in march of this year. the public works award of contract approval in august of last year. 2023. and this was prior to the public works commission process set up. qualifications have 40 years of importance and key also is bringing subject matter dmrt tome abcrop bee and known done training all around the world i continuing is 20 or more. and they have done work consultants work with city of sudden front for [inaudible].

and state lands had land purchased this was done through the general fund years ago and about red to close i think it is next week will be closing escrow. and there are in addition, 3 paper street this is have in the been developed intent it vacate those streets combining that a total of 8 acres makingum this site. in your documents you see it

says 6.6 acres because it was erroneous left out last year before they anyhow they were vacating they thought vacating one and now it is 3. the ceqa declaration was received in december of 2021. and in march of this year, we completed all of the programming to determine the sizes and numbers of buildings going for the and those are listing them there. so, we are requesting the approval of the professional service agreement. as the executive architect for architecture and engineering services on the fire training facility. >> thank you. >> item twol a resolution approving a public works

agreement with ross architecture, this is a design contract for the new fire training facility on carroll avenue. the agreement is 14. within. not to compete 14.1 million dollars and term of 5 years. the contract can be extend by 2 years. this firm was selected per of a competitive process the top skroerer of 3. we 99 our report the cost of the fire training facility increased in less then and there a year from 210 million dollars last year to 270 million dollars this year. to according to the department to permit delayd that had a cascading delay in escalating delay on the project time line and escalates cost. detailed the contract budget on page 10 of our report. 47.within million dollars is come ponent of the 270 million

dollars project. and we have a recommendation to reduce the resolution not to exceed amount by 14, 814 dollars. the new not to exceed would be 14 million, 85,000, within 86 thousand dollars and recommend approval as amended. >> do you have feedback on the recommendations from the analystrousing not to exceed amount. >> no , i'm fine with this. it was i rounds up. >> they want the exact number i'm okay. music to my ears. >> great. and as we have discussed i irrelevant appreciate seeing the project forward. and moving forward just look forward it seeing department of public work in your role facilitating on behalf of

department its meet the unique demand this is san francisco fire department az has at this site the fire training will be possible low shared up and down california for other firefighters to come and learn and trained. but again thshg is after all san francisco fire department's training facility we are men unique need in san francisco. and look forward it seeing your hope representing them. thank you. >> and vice chair mandelman. thank you, in dam chairman and thank you for the presentation and like to be added as cosponsor. >> thank you. let's go to public comment. >> the public wish to speak in person lineup now. for those remote press star 3 to

enter the line. notice in person speakers here in the chamber and we have no one in the queue. >> critic. no public comment. public comment is closed. supervisor safai. thank you and with that i would well toik move this to full board with recommendation a roll call, please. there was an amendment. make the motion to amend. roll call. >> and on that motion, to amend the resolution reduce not to exceed amount. vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> member safai. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> aye. 3 aye's >> the motion pass and i would like to move this as amended to

full board with recommendation. >> on that motion to forward this to the positive recommendation as amended vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> member safai. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> aye. >> 3 aye's. >> thank you it passes. mr. clerk item 3. >> item 3 is a resolution approving amendment 3 to the agreement between maitri and department of public health hospice services for residents of san francisco increase the agreement by 4.5 million not to exceed 14.1 million. extend the term by 4 years a total term july first of 15 through march first of 27 and authorize dph amendments or modifications of the contract prior to final execution not increase the obligations or liabilities to the city and necessary for the purposes of the contract or resolution.

members remote press star 3 to enter the line. when the system indicates you have been unmuted that is time to meant. >> today we have mr. bill mroum. director of programs. director for hiv health service the flower is yours. >> thank you. good morning cochair and supervisors pleasure to be with you to speak to the resolution in front you of for funding for maitri and the term exception. i know you like brevity. that's what i heard i will continue to give you a broef over vow how they fit in the system and a bit more about the programs and questions you like to ask. i am joined remote by beth when is the assistant director of hiv health service. if you could i guess regress to

this. am you see in front of you here is on your left you can seat distribution of all the cites weep funds in hiv health service. hiv health services a group of 8 sxoem we allocate different monies specific low to provide service to the safety net population living with hiv. do part a, b and c. and ending the hiv epidemic. our services gears through severe need folks. here there are 22 determined service categories we funds about 21 of them you seat top 16 here and the 2 called out in red are the categories the service we fund. the idea is you have a sense of the learning are system of care.

i think you review third degree in your packet. a 15 bed facility licensed by the state of california. than i have 2 components equal of skilled nursing facility which is a state designation and hospice care and mental health service. a complete residential program with all the services for people this are in recovery from acute episode than i need skilled nursing or people for end of life care hospice. their program the mental health is both individual and group. and focussed on trying to diagnose folks and the group it for xrnt residents and graduates for both groups. >> more about the program they have an operating budget of a

mission this is based on the years. march first to february 28. and that's an aggregated number of 3 different programs. someone it count depending how many they are in. and similarly the service delivered 7,000 units of service the person could count up to 3 programs depending how many times than i receive the service. and a bit at the bottom you see the 3 pie charts when we served. first at gender identity you see this transwomen the gray part of the slice of the point of view is like low to be served than over all population. race/ethnicity african americans are more like low to be served and the lettin x is less like low to be in that program whites

andishian and ap i and others proportional to the total population. not surprisingly age it is skews significant low toward older folks living with hiv representatives our community on the whole with significant percentage of people 45 plus and a number that are 65 plus. next slide. okay. dph we agree with the bla recommendation in your pack and he request your support and approval of the resolution. >> item 3 resolution approving amendment to the d. public health agreement with maitri center. which provides aids, hospice care. the agreement the amendment extend it through march of 27 and increase not to exceed from

9.5 to 47.1 million dollars. on page 17 we show that the budget for this program is about 1.4 million dollars funded by federal and state funds. we net in our report this there are 2 components to the service well is the hospice and the mental health service that ticks place in the hospice ask provider has not met the units of service required for the mental health service. and it seems to got worse from one year fiscal 21 to 22. this dph reports than i filled those positions and than i are on electronic now to be providing that service. thank you. >> thank you. i think that for this contract it is in the just this contract but contract all the across

every stele department and in this department of public health. i think director down and he i had this conversation and bring attention it budget and analyst over all we roach out to doctor colfixture and his team over all thats we look at these contract we see the trend coming in. meaning contractedors are in the meeting targeted service goals. the numbers of clients served. this we do understand this it is because of under staffing this year when we been the contract amendments we would want to everyone to think be thoughtful about hum people can we really serve and hum people does this take to serve i see you are increasing 0.4fte. but while you increase this

staffing you are also lowering the number of goal this is you will need. total low understand this. i think it is just this if we star which this is in the the first condition transact we see this is helping. more and more of this. we will see some of this for our social security condition tracts moneying less moles served. highway are cost of toed costs i'm giving an example of like this is reality we must face for the budget year. how do wing as my team like to say. right size the contracts to make sure we could actually meet the service goal know when we are meeting the goals the people the number of people we are serving. and the dollar amount we need to spend to meet the goals. thank you. voice chair mandelman. >> thank you, chair chan. talk about the challenges around

providing mental health care in at this facility. not most had than i do? right? >> yea. so you know i suspect the other factor which was not mentioned in the report was covid. you continue is component of people that are in the facility and as well as the graduates that come become and i'm guessing part was they may voluntary to participate. that was not reflected in the monitoring my sense in addition not them having staff additional challenges than i valid faced. it is a group for triple diagnose and offer individual services you spend, let of time in a community and most of the folks that are house thered the epidemic changed people hymn unstable living facilities in the the right support system than i furthermore a community and come with trauma and -- as

well as for those in the an end of life in the hospice a time people often chos want to and need to reflect and get support and 30 therapy and people connected and thrive in a community environment. >> there are also have been concerns in the pedestrian about maitri's long-term sustainability. i wonder doing a thing this is really important but it is heard it find funding i wonder where we are with that now? >> so you know, i think you note today in the change of executive directors, when i can say the w we have done with them. one way we measure the stability

of an organization is when than i are going through transitions do they continue to provide the service without interruptions and no rise in grievances and/or staff unhappy and making those complaints. and with exception of the groups we have in the seen this. than i had solid plans ask interim people and got prosecute actively at time put i person to find the right person. manage that changed within hiv people mission driven. i worked here for 30 years hiv more chronic you are having similar challengers this a hard j.w. in san francisco is expensive city.

than i teem seem toilet low put together and constructed. i continuing is there have been questions and whether the funds to do what they have done. thank you. i think this item should have i experience i like to put myself on there. why thank you. >> and seeing no other name on the roster go to public comment for this item. >> members of public when wish to speak joining in person line up now and for those listening remote low press star 3 to enter the line, for those in the queue wait until you have been unmute exclude may begin your comments.

no one in the chamber and we have no speakers in the queue. >> no public comment. it is now closed. >> clothe clothes i like to move full board with recommendation. may have been a roll call. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> member safai. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> we have throw aye's. where motion passes. >> clerk, call item 4. >> item 4 a resolution retroactive low approving and authorizing director of property amend and restate the lose with the lighthouse building llc the steley lose of 103,000 square feet of rentable square feet. comprised of flowers 1-8, 1155 market for use of 9 city

departments to enter in an amendd and restated office lose for i lose term of 5 years. february first of 23 through january therein of 28. one, 5 year option to extend it january 21, 2033 and initial annual rent of 6.6 million. 3% increases therefore for the remarndz of the term and the director of property enter in aadditional amendments to the lose not increase the obligations or liabilities to the city for the purposes of this resolution. members joining remote and comment on this press star 3. to enter the line. a prompt will indicate you raised your hundred huhave been unmuted begin your comments. >> thank you. mr. clerk and today we have [inaudible]. >> sorry. good morning. chair chan. supervisor mandelman and safai

and president supervisor peskin. i'm director of royals. i'm here before thank you morning seeking recommendation on i resolution an amendd and restated lose extend the term of the city's occupancy 1155 market for 5 years. city losed 1155 america for over 10 years the building consists of tw condos the lighthouse ocpies upper condo floor 9-11 the city occupies the lower which are 1-8. there are 7 diameters currently the 1155 market. include on the list mod, ocea, department of environment, cmd, gsh, assessor and tax collector.

>> the terms of the deal are the result of protracted negotiation. you see on the upon table, the slows retroactive i will explain why in i moment back to february first of 2023 will expire january 31, 2028 for 5 year term. we have one 5 year option to extend. you see tht premesis remain unchanged 103,000 square feet the base rent is 64.60. you can see how this breaks out annual and he monthly the first year. the annual increase it remince unchanged the 3%. i would net this we are coming you have a lease at a rate of 49. 58 but now in hold over. the hold over rate is 79. 33 and in hold over for 8 months since

february of this year. the deal includes allowance and means tenant improve am allowance temperature 15 dollars per square not equal its more than 1.55 million dollars. ti allowance with tw conscience 98 thousand rub used for tenant improvements the balance of the allowance convert today rent credit at a discount of 5%. thus the mixture rent credit is as you see 1.38 million of in addition, we also have a hold over reason credit which means the city entitleed rent credit

for over payment. at this point in time this , credit would equal to within million dollars. between the ti allowance and hold over credit the city would have 2.5 million dollars in credits or allowances. because this -- lease took a long time to negotiate, and i'm sure you have questions why we were in hold over and why this lose should be retroactive i thought it was important to share with you the major mile stones and time lines over the course of the negotiation. back in january of 22 the city sent notice to exercise the lose extension. in march of 22 the land lord sent there fair market rent

determination to the city and than i were at 79. 33 per square foot. . beginning of april rejected the land already determination and 63.94. and note testify is close to the proposed lease rate now. end of april the land lord between 69 dollars and 69.50 n. june of 22 the land lord offered 63 dollars for a 12 year deal. in assessment of 22, on another project, the budget and financials committee rejected i deal of fox plaza and directed the real estate distroigz do 5 year deals due to market conscience. we passed this direction on to the land lord at 1155 market indicating woad like a 5 year

dpeel will and and basically the landlord was -- trading autopsy with the term of the deal and the rent price a lower rent for i longer term if we wanted a shorter term they wanted a higher rent. >> go ahead. >> thank you inform november of 22, the board approved 5 queer deal fox plaza 66 dollars a square foot with 413 dollar rent credit and within.9 million dollars ti allowance. i bring you the terms i see the lose at 1155 basically a [inaudible] to fox mrs. if we had done this deal or bruthis to the board for approval become in november of 22, the terms before you would have been competitive.

what happened inspect this deal however as we negotiate, and august of 23 the land lord signed the amended lose at the rate this is before you 64.60. i would be remiss if i did in the mention this during the 21 months between january of 22 and august of 23 market conditions have fallen. t is a competitive rate late of november of 22. as evidenced by the fox plaza deal at 66 dollars a square foot i thank the bla for hard work and concur with recommendations. this concludes my presentation and i'm available to answer your questions. thank you. >> thank you.

and now we have bla report. >> good morning item 4 is a resolution retroactively approve an amended leaves to february of 23. the lose has a five year term it january of 20 and one five year option to extend to january 2033. the lose the lighthouse building the land lord and the stele is i tenant. and has rented about 100,000 square feet going back to 1999. we show the base sxrent the lose

~esque lites boy 3% over 5 year period total rent paid 35.5 million dollars. we also know that as a policy consideration this this base rent is in fact higher than the appraised value of rents this were conducted by the estate fair market rent was 62 dollars a square not. that evaluation as of december of 2000 and, soupd that commercial rents would increase in 23 when they have gone down by 7% this reason we consider approval to be a policy merit for the board. we note that this is one of several buildings the city lose in civic center. than i are coming to due now and

2025. they are for programs not new programs programs this have been budgeted. for that reason we believe the board should request a report from the director and the add administrator. on the feasibility and a plan to move thank you for your work in working with the body. we were locked in at fixture plaza not saying we would leave and term was more about how we could expand and utilize space different low from top to low

are. this affected the outcome of the negotiations i appreciate you referencing this. and i think in general. the thing this the catches my eye is one we are piing above market and then also >> based on december of left year we know this rents have continued to decline. because of the high level commercial real estate. vacancy. i don't foal comfort begin is over market and like to know you referenced offering 63 dollars a not for 12 year deal. >> that was become in >> back in june of 22.

>> offered 63 a year over a year ago. >> correct. why got it. >> okay. >> they would offer less and potential low. i guess my thing is that -- we have you know -- most report over 30 million square feet of empty office spitz in the estate reason why we were push for the 5 year because we had asked i see in the report. asking you it come become with a plan or report upon this says. this is a road man to buying more report. >> may be asked for i insurer term rather than longer term. buzz we might have the opportunity to buy the buildings in civic center. i would not want it get and i languager term lose but i would also thank you we have the opportunity to potential low buy some properties to electric us

in for we are in the pay rent. the city can get a better deal and don't feel comfortable paying over market value. >> supervisors safai. through the chair. i agree. i mean. can i make another comment. why i'm sorry. this also bothered mow we signed i 10 year lose with these folks when the property changed handled and puc moved. and said in the lease that any material amendments brought back and removed the option to purwhich is from this 3s is i bibbing material metropolitan in my opinion. and i this was in the under your watch. you are in the responsible for this and 2 years after that this lose was mended. we and would this lose is coming due we had the opportunity if we

were appropriating for it to buy this as the lease is coming due. >> and here we near a market that is come leastly deflitted and the optimal time to buy. another reason why i have i big problem with lighthouse building llc. removing the option to purchase. i know you were not involved in the negotiations but i would like to get this on the record. >> and in the to custody mr. pennic off. i think the imaginic language in that boiler plate that -- we can always change is this than i can modify without our oversight or permission by resolution. if it does in the increase the city's liabilities or obligations. and so i would imagine and i'm looking at the deputy city

attorney it is the city attorney had makeings the call as to wlo this lease amendment increase period the city's obgipgz and liabilities. i see how they say, oh , well the fact thanksgiving this is taken out of a lease. i would we may be we want to change this boil are play through the chair to deputy city attorney pierson to make it clear this things like getting rid of an option to purchase a material amendment coming become to the board theory is i prerl thing. i will we in later on the merits or electric of the resolution before us. >> thank you. >> thank you. thank you, in dam chair. a bit to unpeculiar goes to the limiting us to five years in order to give flex at to take advantage of the market i agree with you. i wrote a trop this affect.

i would clarify there was 2 goals. one to possible low. purwhich is a property and also to consolidate holding in the civic center to bring down over head so we are not paying over head on a dozen properties but one or 2. with regards to your second issue. if you could remiamied me. >> the removal of the option to purchase. and paying over market. >> start with the removal of the purchase option. the landlord i was not here for this. could debate whether or not that is a significant amendment. i fund from a practical stand point, we other only tenant in this condo. facility lutz wanted steal it

would be logical they would come to us first. the prosecute vision removed i right of first ref fouzal liability moneys the land lord has to in to us first before than i go out in the open market. i thbl with our without this provision in the lose the land lord would do this. with regards to the over market, it irrelevant you are right. i can't say this in process is at current market. the idea of being is if we had approve third degree lose back when the lease expired in november or december or january, the process before you is competitive. it is -- i know when you are saying this is not where we are. we did not come before you in december we are in september.

and in september this is am over market. >> and not only this. the chefrj in the market has been rapid. because of the miscellaneousive increase in empty office space. i feel like negotiations should continue. personally i'm not appropriateed support this contract over market. and i understand and appreciate and know you almost always bring us i great dpoel did i great job. this is not to impune your ability to negotiate i don't feel comfortable approve thanksgiving based on where we are in the market today. >> understood. >> president supervisor peskin. >> thank you, chair chan and

thank you for this presents sxagz to the -- bla. i'm not casting aspergzs on our real estate division i think this is a tough situation when we are held captive and the notion of moving a number of different diameters departments is i barrier it important for the city as a very active market participate to send a message to this market that -- we can talk with our feet and i would respectfully suggest that this not be continued. i suggest this this be tabled. yes as set forth by budget and legislative analyst this is in

today's market over market. the property owner i think cutting nose off despite their face. therein million vacant square feet of office spitz in san francisco not for from this property. it is a leasee's market. and this lease does not reflect that. it does not meet the today's appraisal numbers. and i think that -- we reject it and red it put down the dollars to get out and move somewhere else and have another leaser help us with those moving costs having the city and county of san francisco as a tenant is gold. we pay on time. we don't file chapter 7 or 11. and i think we need to sends a mess knowledge to this property

owner but to the plug are of property owner this is do business with san francisco this the board of directors of this municipal corporation said, no. >> just to be/khrer that was my pin upon i don't plan on approving this today. why understood >> thank you. may i comment. >> please. >> president supervisor peskin, i hear you loud and clear. the one thing you mentioned i wanted to commentom is the idea of tabling. this item. we exercise the lease extension and under the lose the land lord entitleed have the principle considered by the board. if the board were to vote down this proposal the city would be freed if that negotiation process.

and then we would be free to renegotiate with the current land lord or with others to try to find a more market competitive deal. i did not want to have the land lord think thanksgiving this deal is hold nothing a pending another action. i think a firm, yes or no is needed from the board. i think what the heard through the chair is the right thing for you to do procedurally would be to send this to the full board with recommendation of, no. >> reject. >> is this >> instead of tabling. >> yes. >> this is acceptable. >> and thank you. i think today we just again i want to say that this all also is basing on the budget and legislative analyst report. as mentioned earlier i think all

contract not just this one, all will be coming through more scrutiny we are trying it make sure this we are fiscally responsible. for the city not just for this moment but the longhaul as well. and tell be my inclination to see that we have that ability to identify spaces that we do need and purchase and hold out right if need be and or to get a better deal for the longhaul. i think this agree become to what supervisor safai i appreciated his w on fox plaza was the ability to rescue noise that when at this moment it was brought before us a decade long. lease agreement. suggested amend it half of this to 5 dwroers allow you to been this. i think this is a mem where we want top make that statement.

to say it is time for you to move on. and you we have about a year of time to think that. you know oop00 i'm glaud brought a shorter term. lease agreement. a 5 year it is time to move forward with a long are plan. with this. were the time of lease agreements with the city departments and start planning. with this said, i think we gentleman go to public comment. why member in person line up now. and for those remote press star 3. >> good morning. if