>> tuesday, october 3, 2023, hybrid in-person and virtual meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission i'm president caminong the president and start with announcements. >> we would like to start with the land the land are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush (rah-my-toosh) ohlone (o-lon-ee) who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. irresponsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory.

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televisions. if you are also viewing the meeting on sfgovtv, be sure to mute it before speaking during public comment. we recommend you use telephone you may submit a written comment commissioners and staff are not. >> okay. thank you, start with roll call. >> president caminong, aye. >> vice president bleiman here. >> commissioner falzon. >> commissioner perez here. >> commissioner thomas here and commissioner torres and commissioner wang is accused excused the next item own the agenda is general public comment any comment for items not listed on the agenda. >> no public comment for this item. >> public comment is closed and

next minutes. discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the september 19, 2023, commission meeting. [discussion and possible action item] do i hear a motion? >> i move approval of the minutes. >> second. >> thank you. any public comment on the minutes? >> no public comment for this item. >> oh, i'm sorry somebody mute their phone please. (laughter.) >> art that is me that was commissioner falzon. >> (laughter) an old man on the entertainment. >> and having senior moments now have any own senior public any public comment on that item. >> okay. public comment is closed. . and the next item. >> sorry we have to vote. >> president caminong, aye. >> vice president bleiman, aye.

>> commissioner falzon, aye. >> commissioner perez, aye. >> commissioner thomas, aye. >> commissioner torres, aye. (laughter). >>. thank you. >> okay. >> everyone is all in different places. >> okay. >> all right. the minutes have been approved. >> the next item festival 2023; update on board of appeals actions: none; corrective actions: none. [discussion and possible action item]. >> thank you president caminong um, i'm remotely in this evening so thank you for bearing with me own this i'm home not feeling so well, thank you for the option and thanks to the other commissioners as well. i wanted to take my director's report. >> item this evening to provide you all with a report back regarding the portola music festival 2023 the team behind

make significant improvements with the security plan to better manage crowds and ingress and egress from last year and the possible changes so before i get into the changes and discuss the improvement for this year i wanted to provide data around my medical security issues that came up. so letting you know that saturday they had around three one through attendees. and on sunday they have this though attendees we're happy to report no significant medical or security events throughout the weekend and only 5 medical transports and none of them were critical. um, and then um, that was offer saturday and on sunday only two just classifications so

all in all that is a good data point regarding medical and security concerns. so i want to just focus on the energy to highlight some of the changes we witnessed this year. as you know, we brought this permit application to the commission earlier this year. and the commission and staff worked diligently to recommend improvements to the plan golden boys with the planning on gotten voice requiring periods of time in the field of management to assist with the configuration of stages and amplifiers to direct sound away from the sensors and tact the sound in realtime as well as plaza sound meter in four key locations within san francisco and ocala medicine

neighborhoods impacted last year so those mediations were able to measure the amount bins sound and measuring sound in r5e789 throughout the duration of that weekend the realtime measurements showed any impacts for the sound levels at the four locations related to the those reported and sound data that was cleblgd as both locations for the 5 days. and i can't imagine folks like myself deputy director and senior inspector were around this sound management that the fell off 4. we spent a half day on friday to see the changes they 4 made from the previous year and to be there to see the sound checks.

we were able to meet in-person with the team as they prepared forever the with only weekend that team doesn't exist last year and a set of hired staff that we are having and they were there to speak with complainants in realtime regarding issues they were xernsz and what was very valuable this year was the fact that those um, call takers were sitting in the same trailer as the sound management team and able to field those complaints in realtime and then be able to make changes in realtime by communicating with the staff that actually that managed the sound we looked at the level data and measuring up to the festival and the plans that not only monitor all 5 of the meters throughout the weekend how they

will in turn work with the staff wanted to note for all of you the staff worked with three 11 to educate the represents about the complaint hotline the 411 website had a banner for those to utilize the hotline and our staff worked with the boys that was measured how it sound board at the main stage it was consist with out door events we had them produce the sound didn't impact the ambiance where the surrounded meters were located in san francisco and alameda so for the compliance of limit the festival position that had the

stationary sound meters was a constant motoring and remotely in the trailer where the call center was located after that visit on fridayy visited multiple-generational times during the festival on saturday and sunday charter review committee about the complaints and the inspections had checks throughout the weekend three on saturday and three on sunday and the festival vacuum was compliant with the sound but no of saturday was a successful day in regards to the complaints the festival had 17 complaints directly 16 from the city and one in alameda our office had three 11 complaint following from the city and on sunday, however, was a change in the

weather pattern winds and fog not personality on saturday the festival worked to operate at a lower level because of the weather. from the limit they were operating at on saturday to insure the compliance but try to mitigate against the weather pattern, however, from alameda came in large numbers for the last 4 hours on sunday and announcing to one hundred and 80 calls and alzheimer's e e-mails were fielded and complaints directly to the entertainment commission either in realtime or some came in after the fact i will not have the one hundred and only 4 are contributed to the san franciscans we're planning to executive with the city of alameda in the coming

days and know that the organizers have communicating with the city of alameda and regardless of the complaint i really believe that we work hard to make sure that the residents and alameda county this past weekend and prior to that monitored their impact on the community and to make sure they were in compliance. with their limit both our sfouft and for alameda county bans their data hoping by measuring the festivities throughout the weekend. so we are working with golden boys to follow up with those who reached out to us and follow up with all of you for further information regarding the conversations with alameda by the city of alameda and to provide any further information

we might receive specifically regarding my media logistical data hard word on sunsetted and impacted the sound for alameda county i'm going to pause i have a couple of tiny updates after that but see if you have any questions. >> didn't look like any comments or question you may continue. >> thank you president caminong beyond that i want to let you know that we didn't receive in the field a finding determining a reproduce of place of entertainment for strada in three 10 day period that ended last night for strada remains i'll be out of country from october 14th to o to november 2nd and missing the

next october hearing but, but you're in good hands with the director as i said. that's it. >> thank you direction any questions or comments? >> no, thank you for the evaluated update own this portola music festival 2023 i and get to toll any friend about it but don't job so far. >> that's good. >> i feel pleased with the saturday data that is don't the sunday evening that was 4 hours they were having a hard time in realtime hoping they can continue to improve year over year if though choose to

continue operating the festival. >> it does bring up like a college ethical quiz i live own an island next to a major city and joy the benefits of living next to a big city and it came back disturb you i don't have an answer but brings up an ethics question we had to discuss in college. >> that's basically all you are conversations is it not. >> (laughter.) >> different there is many islands in the state of california that one happens to be next to to but not part of san francisco that comes with benefits and down side as well

still like san francisco. >> all right. thank you. >> any public comment on the report from the executive director? >> no public comment for this item. >> thank you public comment is closed. he next item inspector: senior inspector andrew zverina reports on recent enforcement activities. [discussion and possible action item] thank you, president caminong. >> good evening we have received one hundred and three i have two updates any first is about the voice located on grant street on december 16th at 10:30 inspectors respond to a three 11 complaint the inspectors learned that was closed by the sound measurement was operating in

three 1 dba over the allowable sound limit and issued a sound citation we have an ongoing ladies and gentlemen, and previous solutions bib like those signs leverage have been apparent there is within enhance they can't cover and in compliance and working with the management to discover the sound in compliant and the final is about strada ocean avenue, you know. you voted to revoke the po e on september 19th and the inspector did a compliance

check. as i reminder they in the morning have to abide by and security plan but observed two mall male and one female security guard and patrons wondering into the club in inside no attempt if you have in any questions. thank you. >> it's a question about trinity. >> it is showing up a fair amount in the enforcement report and again, seems like things are a little bit bumpy there. >> trinity has been called back to a hearing today. and so we're doing a couple of things working with them they're trying to get a sound limit for the upstairs and complaints for a patio space that was part as we described last week that was not part of

their presentation the last time they came to a hearing and yeah. and i they wanted to use that event space as we visited they claim they don't have control over that space even though they have private parties we're to within the next week is set a sound limit after the hearing today. and we're going to try to figure out how we can take measurement from the september take care now all the buildings are basically connected an interesting space. but we are going to do you are best measure not from the front of business but the protocol to use that to work the space and agreed that they are only using a small

speaker and generally, the impact will be low that's the current plan for the trinity. >> okay. thank you. >> and you will hearing them later they're agendized last tonight. >> okay. any other questions or comments? >> okay. let's take public comment on this item. >> no public comment for this item. >> okay. public comment is closed. the next entertainment and requesting extended duration per article 15.1 of the police code (bos file no. 210285). [discussion and possible action item] thank

you, president caminong. >> i will be giving the update to you all this evening calling attention to item we are placed in there the previous draft of criteria from december 2021 as well as for the property of drafts criteria that we're proposing changes for this evening. so this item again is an attempt to the criteria where you're permitting ability one one time event with a spent duration as you recall the commission first approved this in december 2021 and reality based on a change that helped the commission to actually permit more than 12 one-on-one one time events at any given

location in a calendar year that is building off of so you might ask which is causing the amendment to the attempt background we want to let you, you know, expiration of the jam permit grass period on september 22nd end the end of pandemic version of shared space program as we knew it the city has a pretty large backlog and lots of things with chairs and table permit application for those who wanted to make their paemdz haired spaces permanent can take many months for the agencies to permit the use of space that leaves the entertainment commission with 1 hundred and 40 businesses in

limbo can't apply for the brick-and-mortar permit with the dope director they don't get the permits to use the sidewalk that is a bit unfortunate bank of america been doing everything we can to prepare our staff and our system and protocols to support this transition period you know what our permit applications are online both for the customer as well as the back end experience for staff. however, we them as though we found solutions to this this amendment is to help solve this problem. so essentially we're supported the goals to help the businesses make a jam to transition and interim period sustains their

entertainment and helps the artists and support culture vibrancy of our san francisco neighborhoods. so specifically outlining for you all this amendment will allow jam permits hosted treatment or outdoor am fy22 sound to transfer their information to a new one time olney event permit with extended duration as long as they have received traditional are final approval for the permit use of their outdoor parklet or sidewalk from the land use jurisdiction and as long as the property approval were in good standing. those permit holders will be required to full out a transfer survey we don't want to them to fill out a permit

application since they did that and abide by the conditions of previously issued jam permit before we process the transfer. we of the it will allow me as is director or designated staff to issue the one time permit and administratively instead creating further backlog to come tow your hearing essentially we want them to focus on the approvals and come to our hearings later on when we are able to actually mitigate one of our brick-and-mortar permit not allowing changes again to the jam permits time space and manner conditions so if necrseeking to amend this process not be considered something we can approve modification will have to remain the same in the transfer but can

k457bd at a hearing when issuing reviewing brick-and-mortar and the permits to be valid for up to three hundred and 65 days or an entertainment permit as a part of amendment will create a way for me and director to administratively approve an amendment for is a one time infringement that was previously approved by the commission that will give the applicant the responsibility to add extend or change the event hours and/or location but only allowed on the condition they have meaningful outreach for neighborhood 10 days in advance of the changes to occur the the long and short

of it. we will document relevant to the work in our folder and we'll be taking a vote on this if you're prepared to do so i want to give you the opportunity to ask any question and we can, of course, discuss. >> thank you director commissioners any questions? regarding jam to one time with stoentd hours criteria? >> thank you for managing all of that i know it's been i'll not call that a mess by yeah - i appreciate the time and emergency energy so, thank you. >> i think that is elegant and

helps both small businesses not stuck in a bureaucratic position and lose our staff to have the authority to make decisions and not mucked up by the commission i'm supportive of this. >> through not part of the draft criteria ment for our review i want to highlight we're working to find a solution so that the um, transfers are not required to pay a permit application fee from us, we building that may require legislation i want to give you you a heads-up we plan to include that within the legislation that we updated you all on to last hearing that is still set to go to committee in

the next month so we're hoping to include it in that we can essentially reciprocating wave any application fees we feel that is burdensome especially we're focusing on brick-and-mortar permits and not anticipating a windfall of revenue from something like that. and we're trying to make that as easy as possible for staff so that we don't need to worry about cost recovery. >> thank you let's go to public comment. >> i applaud the legislation consistent with supervisors

legislation which waves the parklet fees for the year 24 provided you get approved by june of 24 i worked with quite a few a pack let's a long drawn out process some have in the last phase of notification so theirs 4r50u7b8 but icing for the delays you have to stay with that and in the process and a long-drawn-out process this kind of new of the transition from shared spaces to permanent spaces have to be waived by dpw and mta and fire department it is quite a few people looking at everything to make sure everything is continue the that

and not budgeted on flexibility that's it 7 by 20 and have to find holes but obstruction close proximityist to the curve has to be compliant. i think the spirit to save our businesses but people were building them out and shift to a permanent because the rules are strict and have to follow the guidelines and a lot of revisions so a lot of back and forth but i think we're getting close to the end and optimistic i think the music will be a great enhancement but beige to transition i applaud you for doing that that is good

legislation. >> okay. no more public comment for this item. >> thank you. >> do i hear a motion? >> move to approve the changes. >> second. >> okay. let's get a vote. >> president caminong, aye. >> vice president bleiman, aye. >> commissioner falzon, aye. >> commissioner perez, aye. >> commissioner thomas, aye. >> commissioner torres, aye. >>. thank you. >> the motion was approved the the next item for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. [discussion and possible action item] thanks president caminong good evening, commissioners we

have two llp permit on the consent agenda the first for a jam to ban that is inside and amplified as i said for the willows and the same outdoor as held in the permit and the location included the calendaring and the other permit application on the llp for the dance theatre and no opposition and sfpd didn't have any added condition to the staff to approve the consent agenda with the application. >> all right. any public comment on the permit application? >> no, no public comment on this item. >> public comment is closed. do i hear a motion? >> motion to approve.

>> second. >> awesome a roll call. >> president caminong, aye. >> vice president bleiman, aye. >> commissioner falzon, aye. >> commissioner perez, aye. >> commissioner thomas, aye. >> commissioner torres, aye. >> the permit application is continuing granted follow-up with the deputy director for the next steps. >> okay. i'll continue within the regular

the regular your dive, 3158mission st. - place of entertainment amendment to include outdoor entertainment and amplified sound in rear patio. as such conditioning guard approval but i the staff will not issue until the building permit and have outreach to the residential neighbors and received 14 letters of support for three amendment including from commissioners and all the outreach are in the file and no opposition more sfpd here to speak once the owners lynne angel. >> i want to make a disclosure that i'm a neighbor of the applicant and also in in any capacity as the executive for

the lgbtq we have been affiliated with the neighbor. >> i'm lynne angel one of the owners of the el rio your dive and have the manager with us. and before we talk about i was going to play a quick video and do questions or comments and stuff afterwards. >> (video playing).

>> (music). >> don't be that way. >> i can't be survive can't stay alive without your love oh, baby. don't treat me that way no. i can't exist i'll surely

miss your tender kiss don't leave me this way. >> oh, baby. my heart is full and desire for you. now come on down and do way got to do reach this fire in my soul it is burning out of control come and satisfy the need in me and set necessary free. >> oh. don't leave me that way no. don't you understand. i'm at your command oh, please baby please don't leave me this way. no baby don't leave me this way. no. >> i can't survive i can't stay

alive without your love baby don't leave me this way. oh, baby, my heart is full and love and dire for you to come on down and do what you got to do and started this fire now in my soul keep it burning out of control so come on satisfy - and set me free. set me free and i need your loving baby i need our love right now. (music).

>> baby, baby. >> please, come on, come on satisfy the need in me baby. come on satisfy the need in me. >> wow. >> so. hope you enjoyed that. really complicated working. um, so i'm going to go through some staff - hoping as you learned from my mart piece started in 1978 by malcolm and robert serving a space that is operational for 45 years this month and a queer opened and operated venue that is welcoming to everyone and seek out there

resources population and organizations to provide for fundraisers and at this time, we host over 4 hundred events a year and half are benefits and raised $200,000 for those benefits and for teacher, aye. >> applies and communities of color and queer and nonprofit workers and artist and animal lovers and newcomers to the city and pretty much everyone in between i should for el rio your dive and a lot of they have been there longer than than me an honor and privilege to help run this property and lastly, just

huge thank you to all you on the commission to help get our permits modernized we appreciated all you do for night life and thank you for helping. >> and yeah what kind of questions can i answer for you could i? >> i have no questions just thank you. i adore el rio your dive and spent many, many enjoy hours of my time there and during covid i love el rio your dive so thank you for keeping it open you well, thank you we love you thank you for coming. >> i just want to echo that i went there when i was 23 with my friend mark a little band placed there and mark threw a lemon in a tree and hit me in the face

one of the negative categories. >> one of the most amazing places of town and why i moved to san francisco and this place is incredible thank you for decades of work you've done to make that place awesome. >> i wanted to echo my colleagues thoughts el rio your dive very special to me as well. >> how special steven (laughter) and want to share? >> (laughter) well, i did have the pleasure of working there a very long time ago as a a queer person of color in san francisco that's where i met my chosen family. >> hi, thank you for coming

yeah. i spent many times at el rio your dive a great placed open growing up at peer and hang out with dance thank you for offering and keeping the space clear for everyone to enjoy. >> thank you. >> okay. >> that was a masterpiece. >> my side hustle i will have a good power point but as a legacy business we applaud you for lgbtq to make sure that continues to be home for everyone thank you. why not have a seat open up to public comment. >> okay. >> good evening one person

with their hand raised on zoom. >> carol hill if you can hear me, please unmute yourself and limited to 3 minutes per speaker a i'm unmuted. >> good evening commissioners. president caminong (laughter) it great to be here i'm great to talk about el rio your dive. i do an event there ever month and my event is 27 years old will be 27 in the 28 of october and all i can tell you i echo el rio your dive is a special place we have had - in my capacity as a prompter we've done an event

every month and for 27 years including through the pandemic we need the something called a taste of this because we can only have 5 people but the idea able to keep a place for let me see and afterwards for people to come back to socialize and mango is the oddity in the country i don't have the data for that but it is 27 years old and have not nobody has said they've seen us so it is a place in san francisco it is mostly generated a lot of people coming up to me and at 22 telling me their moms

used to come to el rio your dive so mostly generational and in any capability of an educator i bring several groups to el rio your dive it the patio any time with an event and the community thinks that the original promoters we couldn't think a better place for a in memoriam service it is a super special place and lynn is a super special owner to, you know. we saw sharing montage but mango would note be mann community-based without that back patio and echo what everyone said and flu support this change of modification has to be complete and the highest support for that. thank you.

>> thank you. >> thank you, dr. >> you're welcome. >> all right. others. other comments. >> no more public comment for this item. >> okay. public comment is closed. do i hear a motion? >> hi move to approve of this item. >> segmented. >> oh, i'm sorry someone just raised their hand. >> after we closed it. >> yeah. if we closed it they can't speak sorry caller we just closed public comment we can't hear you sorry keep going. >> i second. >> okay. >> let's have a vote, please. >> okay. president caminong, aye. >> vice president bleiman, aye. >> and commissioner falzon, aye. >> commissioner perez, aye. >> commissioner thomas, aye. >> commissioner torres, aye. >> okay. your employment u

permit is continuing grand follow for the next steps and congratulations. >> the next item on the agenda >> the next item on the agenda trinity, located at 1851 union st, regarding ongoing enforcement action sat the business. [discussion and possible action item] >> okay. deputy director please introduce this permit. >> thank you president caminong. >> at the request of the commission this was agendize for the trinity before the commission to ask you ongoing violations of business trinity received conditional approval for the business and to clarify the hosting to the new location

in their upstairs private entrance as you recall trinity had a sidewalk to fix their doors downstairs to open outward and conditioning approve the llc protect permit the business owners met hurdles and they cabin the repairs are you but not issued their llp permit i wrote this reporter 15 complaints and reports. of the 15 complaints inspectors had 5 times substantiated the complaint i like to note of 15 complaint many came in on the same day and the calls and e-mails is from one neighbor. as

you recall for the hearing on september 9th inspector responded to a complaint and observed a dj performing for a private party and the owner said the permit yet required the dj was not a dj and didn't have control because of a private event and documented the dj and upon my review i can't say he was a dj and another point during the visit the private room with the event where the event was a open air patio outdoor and the doors were open during the dj performances they have live or prerecorded causes the music to funnel out of rear to the rear neighbors and cause a disruption and more importantly the patio is not

part of application or is information presented to you when they came to the hearings in august and on september 9th i issued a citation and director issued a final notice and in the notice advised the business can't have direct music from the planning department recommendation for the an llc permit fortunately unfortunately, they have another event and more complaints i had a phone conversation with one of the owners and talked about the regulations about their operation by the understand what is go on this agenda item is a discussion and possible action in which the commission has the ability for they training the permit we didn't see a specific application at that time we want to remind the appearance of following the rules and assurance - insuring to their

permit conditions and keeping their patio doors closed. in addition, we or are recommending you are ask the owners to declare the type events and they mentioned they have artists playing on a piano but their application listed live djs it would be do to have them condition their permit and owner application in our file tonight and here to speak with you on zoom are the owners i can i'm available for questions. if you do. >> so n - there we go.

>> please accept. >> i don't know why they're not here in in-person and i believe that johnny is traveling and nick indicated he's working solo they bar tonight. >> nick and johnny you should turn own your cameras and microphones if you can. >> is it on. >> there we go there we go yeah. >> so hi through can you hear me? >> yes we can hear you.

>> hi sorry. um, i don't know if johnny is unmuted. >> there's johnny. >> yeah. >> we i'll apologize we can't a make it in this evening fortunately, we don't have staff tuesday's. >> do you guys have any comments. >> i needed a confirmation you can hear me sorry. i just want to start offer by saying shout out to el rio your dive and going through for 10 years since i was 21 i love three stuff. i would like to get some positive news on our space we need the

get a building permit for the doors general contractor is signing back to addicting and so our downstairs the past few months since we appeared before you i've gotten to know take our inspectors very well i see them almost every thursday and friday and saturday. not only when we have people upstairs sometimesly music downstairs and i'm not saying all neighbors are unreasonable we have one or two second why not to be a nuisance to the neighborhood i want to bring people and have diverse amount of music and

performances. the upstairs i think i was johnny and i were a little bit - i guess a little miscommunication or not finding correctly that even with the speaker we can have normal prerecorded music up there and we would i guess motion or appeal to you um, the commissioners to let shut down said for the prerecorded music until we can build a roof over the patio where the sound is escaping and might be a costly thing to do but it looks like that will be the best course of attention that is definitely a valuable space for the business to survive. and if we can't have a blue tooth speaker up there

an, an engagement part a thirty birthday party so forth without entertainment we're going to miss out on 50 percent of our sales this is our course of action and shut down all the music upstairs. now that still allows us in the next week hopefully to finish that door and have um, live music downstairs where is much more contained i believe that the neighbor in the rear would not complaining about that noise that's what i have to say about that i mean - i am a little bit i guess i don't realize the upstairs area was still offer limits we understand the amount of complaints and lastly, i was

asked for the time stamps on the three 11 calls before 10:00 p.m. coming in between 4 and 10:00 p.m. i want to say we can consciously trying to shut down before 11 that was our guidelines for noise in that neighborhood. >> thank you. >> so just to clarify you are currently providing entertainment into downstairs and upstairs? >> we are currently providing no live entertainment rereported. >> a question for me so i, clarify. >> what i want to know is the

upstairs permitted. >> it was included in the continual of the llp permit no known usage of - i don't know the patio exist not part of presentation but approved for upstairs and downstairs for the bar. the permit has not been issued yet. >> i got it. >> as of notice we have a blue tooth speaker upstairs. and when we have a private event up there i offer it up as one of the people in the event can link up and play their music we try to keep that the reasonable vacuum i was - intentionally not going to have live music until we got the doors shut downstairs no effort to book a dj or other

maureen. >> can you clarify i'm drawing a blank on the upstairs there is an upstairs space that is enclosed am i understanding that correctlyly. >> the pictures with the pathogen and there are the accordion doors they are black panels they look open regardless but doubled the space you w there so when we have a thirty birthday party we on that w up with prerecorded music and we need the see inspector several times during that night. >> to clarify the music was inside not outside. >> only one speaker or two

speeches both inside. >> were the accordion doors open or closed. >> their open. >> now we're not doing anything 28 doors open we were notified on the first e-mail i apologize but notice music upstairs can you identify who is who i room 416 catch that? >> which one of the is, which. >> nicholas barney. >> nick. >> sorry about that. >> i figured out out 40 years you know johnny's voice. >> (laughter.) >> i've been there many times, yes myself. >> okay. so can i clarify nick what you said something about shutting down the upstairs you. >> with the amount of noise complaints for upstairs we

decided to judge to remove all speakers. inside and out h out prerecorded to put a little come over the patio even with those doors closed glass paneled doors i feel we're going to get three 11 calls once the doors are operational we can do the downstairs prerecorded to cover the upstairs i think that is a ensubconsciously with the rainy season a win-win for he everybody to cover the upstairs. the neighbors and the commission i feel like any speaker is not

working. >> the. >> they came to hearing on august 15th that was approved content on them repairing their downstairs doors they were installed incorrectly and for the accessibility to sound they got to dbi from august 15th until that is done and signed off for fire can't host entertainment for trinity. >> got it. >> i thought what about reaching that from the current application? >> that's a path i'm heading on the their go not going to use it and no immediate plans to enclose it will make our job easier if you focus on the space that is appropriate for live

entertainment sounds the first floor and nick and johnny i'll welcome our thoughts i've defer to the deputy crocker on that bringing that but you personally not comfortable having that space on the current application a little bit unique in the scenario on an unissued permit so we - it is for us to correct the application. >> i would agree with you think that is a shame three the pathogen room can't eyed for right now but like i said, i think everyone will be more happy with using the first floor until further construction. >> johnny and nick will be a lot of leverage with the community it shows that you are

seriously taking those concerns unto heart and trying to come up with a strategy plan for the next steps. >> that being that said, i made a motion this is going to take the full commission. >> vote. >> yeah. >> i don't have any objection to that i mean when you came in the first time it was not long ago and your honor, coming in front of us for un. permitted entertainment in the space i had mixed feeling about moving forward with the llp. and, you know. i feel like we made a good faith effort and, you know.

>> (multiple voices). >> telling our staff that is not a dj when it is a dj and generating so many complaints before you even are providing permitted live entertainment. didn't give me a lot of confidence. >> (multiple voices). >> moving forward. i appreciate commissioner falzon proposal might be a good solution. >> yeah. i will add - i mean not a lot of room an hours they are stopping own 11 if disco got more restrictive no purpose in having the permit this is a meaningful foot forward and put in spotlight back on them to build other their upstairs. >> and that's a process but

make sure we use the correct language here they already have a permit and processing not been issued yet and and you can only imagine the situation looking down there are other things and one thing in may or the worst case scenario. >> thank you for bringing that up in conditions will contradict commissioner falzon motion. >> got it the correct language for this commissioner falzon motion will be something to recondition their permit so the allowable area for entertainment is limited to the first floor is that it. >> that's what he said i think. >> i would defer to defer to staff. >> the only permitted phase is the first floor if we can make that a motion that is my motion.

>> yes. before we go to motion. >> (multiple voices). >> a great idea and president caminong like to clarify on the record had what constitutes per code the playing of an unamplified instrument if they play the pathogen upstairs not permit or pro reported music but important we keep in mind point planning department specifically said no outdoor activity period is allowed which goes back to the doors being open or rather those carriers closed don't mean the muddy the waters. >> (multiple voices). >> i have objection the fact will be a permit holder and

imply with the good neighbor policy for their windows and doors closed all the time even on the second floor or have an single unamplified sound that covers the requirement to keep the doors closed regardless of that. >> okay. >> all right. thank you for the clarification. let's hope that folks can fellow the rules and go to public comment. >> fellow follow the rules. >> no public comment on this item. >> public comment is closed. get back to the motion. >> putting the cart before the horse my motion would be that the permit applies to the first floor only and if i can put that

into a condition that is allowable their dbi applies to the first floor and commissioner falzon we're permitting the entire block i want recommend that to the capture the idea you recommend the condition that limits the entertainment activity to premiums to the first floor. i like that can that the motion. >> that's my motion. >> friendly correction. >> second. >> thank you can we have a vote, please. >> okay. president caminong, aye. >> vice president bleiman, aye. >> commissioner falzon, aye. >> commissioner perez, aye. >> commissioner thomas, aye. >> commissioner torres, aye. >>. okay. and your permit

application is conditionally please follow-up with the deputy director for the next steps and the last item is item. >> thank you, everyone.. thank you. good luck guys. >> thank you. >> see you again and direct staff. >> okay. the last item is item is to allow commissioners to introduce agenda items for future consideration, and to make announcements. [action item and announcements] go ahead. >> yeah. i'd like to play dianne feinstein owe was a friend and champions six the fellowship pin community and

lead the trade delegates to manila and in 2017 introduced do world war ii conveniences with their families and transferred a ban bye camera to recognize october as the recognition to honor and celebrate the culture of food in memory and on the filipino culture in shaping our country and i'm to honor her legacy and senator representing the state of california. >> thank you commissioner perez and congratulations to our new

senator, i i serve on the lgbtq and holding your gallow la at the theater and honoring among other people honoring kathleen who that minutes ago has contributed or state contributed and number of items and 34e78d to the historical society we're honored to hold the memory of night life going to those sylvester and 23 i appreciate queer night come out and support this effort to prefer his memory. thank you. >> is there a link. >> i send you one.

>> i am on the board of directors for the city. >> i think we should be there it is important. >> yeah. yeah. >> i wanted to note there is the present - the presentation at the san francisco public library on october 26th highlighting the 16 street corridor as a center of night life in the form of are now closed but mother one of our recent applicants they now operate in that space anyways showing some films and memory board member law from that time period of the french.

>> any public comment on this item. >> no public comment on this item. >> public comment is closed. . okay. this meeting is adjourned. at 6:49 p.m. thank you, everybody

>> shop and dine in the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges residents to do their business in the 49 square files of san francisco. we help san francisco remain unique, successful and right vi. so where will you shop and dine in the 49? >> i'm one of three owners here in san francisco and we provide mostly live music entertainment and we have food, the type of food that we have a mexican food and it's not a big menu, but we

did it with love. like ribeye tacos and quesadillas and fries. for latinos, it brings families together and if we can bring that family to your business, you're gold. tonight we have russelling for e community. >> we have a ten-person limb elimination match. we have a full-size ring with barside food and drink. we ended up getting wrestling here with puoillo del mar. we're hope og get families to join us. we've done a drag queen bingo and we're trying to be a diverse kind of club, trying different

things. this is a great part of town and there's a bunch of shops, a variety of stores and ethnic restaurants. there's a popular little shop that all of the kids like to hang out at. we have a great breakfast spot call brick fast at tiffanies. some of the older businesses are refurbished and newer businesses are coming in and it's exciting. >> we even have our own brewery for fdr, ferment, drink repeat. it's in the san francisco garden district and four beautiful murals. >> it's important to shop local because it's kind of like a circle of life, if you will. we hire local people. local people spend their money at our businesses and those local people will spend their

money as well. i hope people shop locally. [ ♪♪♪ ] >> you're watching san francisco rising with chris manners. today's special guest is katy tang. [♪♪♪] >> hi. i'm chris manners, and you're watching san francisco rising, the show that's focused on rebuilding, reimagining, and revitalizing our city. with us today is katy tang, and she's talk to -- talking to us about assistance and services provided to local businesses. can we talk about the role of the office of small business?

many small businesses are struggling to help. how can you help? >> director tang: we are here as the city's central point of information for all things small businesses, so we can help people start, stay, and grow in the city. if you want to start a small business, we can pair you up with small business advisors, who can talk you through your business plan, help you develop it, whether it's regulatory requirements, business permits, and just help you understand the journey that was up ahead. and if you'd like to stay in san francisco and perhaps your business is facing challenges, we can also pair you with a business advisor who can assess your business needs and figure out whatside that would best help you. so for example, perhaps you need more marketing assistance or you need to be connected to a loan, a low interest loan or

a grant program, if that's available. those are services we can provide to you, whether you're starting out or trying to stay in san francisco. and of course, if you want to expand and grow into a new space, we can help assist you with that and help prepare you for the journey ahead. we have a team dedicated to assist you you with all the small business needs, all the requirements needed to help you establish your small business in san francisco. >> do you have an e.s.l. program for people who want to start small businesses? >> director tang: we have staff that can speak spanish and mandarin and cantonese, and we understand if english is not your first language, it can be difficult, so we want to be as helpful as possible.

>> excellent. i know that s.f. shines was created to help with restoring and improvement. can you tell us more about that? >> yes. it's run out of a sister development and it's much needed in the small business community. if you are trying to improve your storefront, whether it's outside, perhaps you want to make some interior improvements, a lot of times, that involves a lot of cost and resources to be able to do so. for example, you may need to hire an architect to submit drawings so you can get your work done. currently, s.f. shines is offer a pairing of business sign services. you can be paired up with an architect to get your drawings done to help you start to do

the actual work. we hope that people will stay tuned, and you can find out more information on our website. that's sfgov.org/osb. >> let's talk about the shared spaces program. it's been a huge success, and outdoor dining spaces are very popular. >> the shared spaces program, especially during the pandemic, really helped spaces survive. to have an outdoor space where people could safely gather was critical, and the office of small business has been working with these shared spaces during the pandemic. some may or may not have been up to the city's code

regulations, so department of public works and other departments have been trying to figure out what violations are and help businesses come into compliance. the planning department and the city have decided that they'll give businesses until 2023 to come into compliance. also in the meantime, for businesses that want to start new shared spaces, new parklets, that is still an on going program, a new program, so people can always submit their applications for shared spaces regardless whether they started one during the pandemic or not. >> do you anticipate there being other shared spaces programs in the future and how do small businesses go about finding out about them? >> small businesses can find

out about it by visiting our website, sfgov/osb or you can call 415-554-6134, and we can connect you with the planning department and other agencies that would be connected with the shared spaces programs. >> over the pandemic, businesses have been victimized by vandals and other crimes. how can you help them? >> the city offers a program called the vandalism relief fund, and this would allow businesses suffering from graffiti or broken windows to apply with the city through our neighborhood services division, and you could get up to 1,000 or 2,000 if you submit certain

documentation, such as a photograph of the damage or a copy of the receipt or document showing the amount you paid for to correct the incident. we are so excited that the city now has a centralized permit center, where people can come and get their business done, hopefully, in the same day where there are several different agencies, ranging from department of building inspection, planning department, public health, fire department, all here to help people, whether you're building a new business or even new construction, to be able to, again, fit all of your appointments in one day and get things done quickly. so starting in may, our office of small business has actually started working out of 49 south van ness at the permit center, and we have a team of two staff who are dedicated to helping

small businesses through their permitting journey. so we do encourage people, you can come to the permit center or you can e-mail us at sfosb@sfgov.org, and you can communicate with our staff dedicated to helping you with your permitting needs. we hope that people will consider consulting with us before you even sign a lease so that we can help you on the path to success and understanding the journey of setting up a small business in san francisco. >> well, thank you so much. i really appreciate you coming on the show, miss tang. thank you for the time you've given us today. >> director tang: thanks for having me. >> and that's it for this show. we'll be back shortly. you've been watching san francisco rising. for sfgovtv, i'm chris manners. thanks for watching.