seeing none on the motion, commissioner walker, how do you vote? yes? commissioner walker is yes. commissioner benedicto yes. mr. benedicto is yes. commissioner byrne yes. commissioner byrne is yes. commissioner yee yes. commissioner yee is yes. and vice president carter overstone yes. vice president stone is. yes. you have five yeses. line item 15 adjournment when? when do you sleep? very little. good. stacy.

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www.sfgov.org item 1 roll call. nakajo. >> present. >> vice president morgan. >> present. >> commissioner feinstein. >> present. >> commissioner fraser. >> present. >> commissioner collins. >> present. >> chief nicholson. >> present y. president nakajo will read the land acknowledgment. the san francisco fire commission acknowledges that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land, and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost, nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples.

item 2. general public comment. members. public may address the commission up to 3 minutes within the commission's jurisdiction this does in the appear on the agenda. speakers address to the commission as a whole and not individual commissioners or personnelful commissioners not to enter in debate or discussion with a speaker. the lack of response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with of statements made during public comment. >> good evening. everybody. i guess you know me. i was really i didn't want to come ball thank you once a month to address the fire commission is important. the thing i want to tell you

this don't play with fire. it is important for you to pass the message. you burn yourself this is the end of the story. when i want to actual is that the picture is everybody will going to understand that one must own oneself. so once you understand and you pass the world you own yourself. you were [inaudible]. nobody told you that.

look at the sky its is easy to understand i don't want to be specific but -- don't play with the element it is or fire own yourself, that's it. it will raise the level of

respect. anyone else? nobody is approaching and nobody on the line. public comment is closed. >> secretary. >> item 3 approval of the minutes discussion and possible action to approve the october 11, 2023 regular meeting minutes. madam secretary i will take public comment. i don't see anybody propping the podium and well is nobody on our public comment line >> public comment is closed on this item. commissioners. thank you very much. vice president morgan. >> second. >> thank you very much commissioner fraser. president nakajo how do you vote.

>> aye. >> commissioner feinstein? >> i should recuse myself. commissioner collins? okay. the motion does pass. thank you. item 4. chief of departments >> reporter: from jeanine nicholson on current issues, activities and events went department since the fire commission meeting on october 11, 2023 including brjs academies. events, communication and out roach to gentleman agencies in the public. report from administration deputy chooefr shayne kaialoa fleet status updates, finance, support service, home land security and update from cap ain't edchu and report from ems and community paramedicine

sandra tong on ems and community paramedicine divisions. >> thank you very much. good evening, chief nicholson. >> greetings president nakajo. vice president morgan. commissioner fine stierning fraser and collins. command staff. chief nicholson. this is my report. since our last meeting on the 11th of october. a peck preparations condition. and chief brown and chief tong leading the way for us. in meetings and -- i partook in a meeting with the secret service and a multitude of other government agencies. last week. sort of a practice table top. and then we did another one with

the d. emergency management. so, for you know situations that could a rise doing apeck. a peck is the biggest thing to hit san francisco since 1945 united nations being here huge deal. plenty of impacts to the city traffic wise and otherwise. but it should bring a bunch of money over 50 million dollars for that week alone and then who knows how much more after that with all the meetings with ceo's and heads of state that will be occurring here in san francisco. i went to the california chief's conference meeting down in ontario, california.

chief kaialoa also attendsd and made good connections and went to good meetings. it was nice to get out and see the chiefs in -- instead of our squares all the time. so, and -- we have really good reps with other departments throughout the state. this past weekend. quick tower 90th celebration, speaker nancy pelosi in attendance as was the mayor and president supervisor peskin as was a descendant of the coits. so, and yea. a fun event. that day i went to the first respondeder career path way fair held in city hall. and city emt had a let to do with that. but organizing it -- but it was

basically first responders fair, so wild land firefighting, table for them. police. chp. bay emt will, also sorts of organizations came together. mayor was in attendance at that. at st. there was a nert drill with volunteers several us went to. and great job organizing by kathleen tom and everyone else and i sure do appreciate the nert volunteers because we'll be needing them and they have deployed over the past several years during covid. also on friday evening i'm sure chief tom and kaialoa will hate

this there was a banquet in their honor in china town they were both honored. and it was well attended and nice banquet and -- commissioner fraser was in attendance. thank you for this. upon plenty of political folks the mayor came by. they were morified about it but it was not bad. it was fun. yea. fun. so -- that was nice. and then -- i met with the new cest 9910's at ems. these other young people that went through city emt and internship on the ambulance. another class of them in this may be our fifth of folks it is clipping along at a good pace. great work being done. today met with the bfa, black firefighter association.

path way stuff. also met with am homelessness and supportive house to tighten up the community paramedics getting access for folks. we also met with a new nonprofit put together by retired firefighter, the ems behavioral health foundation. they offer financial support and -- other peer support for folks that are having challenging issues. and so it was a good first meeting and look forward to collaborating with them. met with supervisor chan on emergency firefightering water supply system. and that was a productive meeting. in addition, last week a week before last we had a boot camp

for perspective h2 candidates they were close to 100 young people there. we did 2 sessions. and it was a good way for them to take their own temperatures to see when they are ready for. and get their hands on equipment. and so yea we will fine tune it a little as we move along. but -- had some stand out folks there. and then we were all city departments ordered to look at budget cuts the budget cuts of 3%. as well as 2 positions that unfilled positions this -- we can put and that will not be reinstated ever. so. we are having internal conversations about that. and we will be certainly push back on a lot of this and let you know how it goes.

but we don't have any, there is no meat on the bone or flesh on the bone. there is nothing. and so -- we will have those conversations with the mayor's budget office. america has been working on that as well. and then left but in the least, you likely all saw that news from yesterday crews had their av permit revoked by the dmv. which you know came out of an accident last month that severely injured someone. and so -- we are continuing to meet with them. to go over incidents that have happened so we can you know sort of inform them and we are working with their engineering

and policy people, and others are. to make sure that that -- um -- things are safer. and so, that concludes my report for now. >> thank you very much. chief nicholson for your report. public comment on chief nicholson's report. >> well is nobody approaching and nobody on the comment line yoochl thank you, public comment is closed. commissioners any questions or comments through the chief. >> commissioner collins? >> chief nicholson, how do crews explain the accident? how do they explain the accident? >> yes. what is their position visa i have the accident involving their vehicles.

joy think chief can speak to this he has been in meeting with video and explain when they see and we explain when we see from our operational perspective and this they had no understanding of at all. there is also this accident where the woman was run over and dragged which is another story. go ahead chief. >> deputy chief, good afternoon or evening president nakajo. . to clarify i was speaking to the incident with crews at fifth and market or over all explanation? i think the incident at fifth and market is the most recent. my understanding from reports this have been begin previously, is that there is not complete

comprehension by cruise or way mow about the potential severity that we are addressing. i guess my real question is, has their position changed given the most recent incident? so we did meet and discuss the recent incident it is on going investigation by the police department, et cetera, we are not investigating it as the fire department we brought our point of view to it. i do have trouble speaking for the companies but my reaction to their reaction in general is the dissect culturaly. so with the incident we are speaking on, the car did what it was programed do and did what the engineers thought was appropriate for the incident and obviously, it was not. and we brought that to light in

the meeting and discussed our concerns about what happens at that incident and others that occurred. in general, when i see is a group of people who are deeply tieed a technology or working to make it do a thing. drive through the san francisco, delivering passengers. safely and when than i encounter education and novel case or anything that is not currently embedded in the programming in their system; no one is entirely clear how it will react. soy, every dints when you get to those circumstances where it is new to the program where it is new to the car they refer to the driver, the driver -- then the engineers fall back on trying to

program through and around it to come up with their solution to it. when we are presenting to them is how it impacted fire operations and first responders and impacts safety generally. giving our point of view and things that need to be changed. difference between the driver. computer driver and the human is that human takes that input and the experience and the relevant background to make more informed decisions. general low. you know despite miles driven, et cetera . >> what is the reaction if any, of the business people whom the engineers work? >> again i characterizing other people's mind sets i'm not a lawyer i imagine that is not acceptable. they are entrusting their

business plan to the tech untiling and rely on engineer you saw problem presented when we bring a new understanding of the problem it i believe this they are entrusting their engineers with a solution. they expect them to solve for the inability to avoid drive nothing fire scenes and come up with a way to make their vehicles yield to emergency vehicles. and we work with them to create system they will not impact operations. i will speak to that a bit. if i may. commissioner collins. so, i think that and correct me if i'm wrong, chief. we have a good working relationship now with the engineering folks and in terms of meeting every 2 weeks and sort of learning stuff. in terms of the higher up's i say that they are entire sort of

pr you said it -- they are sort of -- you know they have i giant pr machine and it is always deflect and not taking responsibility for stuff? and you can yea. so, that has been my experience with them. but -- they don't take responsibility and deflect. and deflect and deflect. so. and i think that i money i think that they are financial low in trouble now, too. and you know -- that may cause folks to do things different low but -- but that has been my challenge with them. not owning anything. >> well i'm not telling you combug don't know but when

companies over rely on engineering slusz and over look accident and humin solutions; this is what happens. right. engineers are trained to think there are engineering solutions to all problems. which we all know, there are not. so i mean bravo. i assume you played a big role in getting the permit revoked per cruise it is a pr disaster. and i would say i have to keep appeal to the people for whom the engineers work. and if that means you know -- puncturing the pr machine, that's what that means. these are not engineering issues. not really. i of course we join with other organizations around the country in asking the questions about

the safety of autonomous vehicles. this is not a san francisco issue. this is a domestic and worldwide issue in which we are playing an important part. we are offering real evidence of the problems. and we have been building the reps worrying cities where the av's are operating and encountering the same problems and sharing solutions we arrived at. most of them suffer the same problem with framework. and don't have control in their municipality or county or city over the operations. but -- lessons learned here that can be transferred to other cities. >> and not for profit watchdog national low based are interested in this issue i think you know. bravo i'm sure you did a lot to

get cruise haltd and their attention and -- hope you keep at it. >> we will remain engaged. yea. >> chief? before you leave the podium, thank you for your report i loved your fradz cultural disconnect that summarized temperature i had a question. everybody talks about cruise and way mow there is a third company i see in my neighborhood zoox. i wondered if they are at the table because they come out of the barn at 15th street on harrison every morning i see them a lot are than i in the discussions at all? >> zoox under a different licensure they are testing with a safety driver they are not autonomous yet at all. they have come to us early. they engaged the conversation.

they are willing to provide train and in the same as we come with solutions for way mow and cruise, zoox is interested toot adopting the same standards we are building. and offer an appreciation for all of you who are having taken on another huge job you did not sign up for or budget time for as far as dealing with the companies, engineer and it is problems causing to our citizens. thank you i appreciate it as a commissioner and citizen. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner collins. commissioner fraser and commissioner feinstein? chief? sorry. >> i echo that fellow commissioners said and this is another task to under take. and -- it is complicated and

dangerous. and i guess my -- question is -- a simple one. how could this have been prevented? how could it have been prevented. i only know what i read in the newspaper. so. >> i have to rely on the expert in thes field that we go work with, with the mta and others transit engineers and people who have been engaged this long are than we have 2 told the agencies the puc and dmv the way they were going about it would end with the results we are seeing in the street. and so what they recommended a slower press and measured press and one that had far more mandated reporting from the companies back to the regular

agencies. that the -- sharing of information would not have been vol tailor a manualed tory reporting process. it is eye opening that the reason or one of the reasons besides the fact that my chief is very well spoken and passionate about public safety in san francisco, another reason we near this position the san francisco fire department is the few places that aggregating and collecting information about inneraction with av's. the av incident report that was instituted by the chief because we were seeing so many of the incidents is one of the few places where they are capturing time, date, incident data that is associated with the vehicles otherwise everything is social media, anecdotal reports.

so the 87 events we recordsed now, put us front and center in this conversation. its. eye opening >> and may i ask if you know. how is the woman that was double hit in this incident -- >> looks like the chief >> she is [inaudible]. she was severely injured. >> yes. >> thank you. thank you, chief. >> thank you, chief. let me get the vice president. we'll go back to commissioner -- >> quick lite data that you have aggregated data awe are willing to share? >> outside of -- i don't know how willing are to you share that data?

>> we create and capture this information and it is a forethat you will is available through information request. so it has been available to the media. we get requests for it. we have been try to use the mta as more of an aggregating body. we send our reports to them weekly also. and they are in contact with the companies. we had a moteing week or last week with the department of motor vehicles about settingum a system where we can share information with them. this is freely available. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. let me get vice president morgan >> chief, i want to thank you for the time my voice carries i

got a loud voice. [laughter]. i want to say, thank you for the time you are spending dealing with the av industry. and looking out for the citizens of san francisco's interests as far as safety. you know and you know i have a dual interest in this because of labor. . once they perfect the crafts or whatever, it will put a lot of people out of work and it will move on down the line. you know. we really appreciate you looking out for you know the citizen of the safety first and foremost and me as a labor fan. you know i'm rooting for you guys and you know i'm i applaud the dmv for holding them accountable. you know.

dmv they did -- [laughter]. i had to get that out. that was good and great timing you know with the big a peck convention coming in. and that's all we needed was a few of them to take a dump in front of a fire truck and god knows when else might have happened. wanted to applaud you for your work. upon thank you very much upon vice president morgan. stick around chief until i ask chief nicholson if well is anything else she wants say. all right. the other question i have how long is the duration of this permit being suspended? the term or what is the term? from dmv. that i don't know until further notice. >> indefinite and i don't know

this we understand the terms of them resuming their license yet. >> we violate conversation tomorrow. this commission would be interested in the duration, transitions because somewhere along the line the question i will ask, how long will this last. and that is cruise doing? i'm sure something? we will be in there, chief to be at that table had this goes down. >> anything else, chief? thank you very much. >> thank you. madam secretary? hold on comment on the chief's report over all. >> thank you for your report amazing how much happen in a month. >> appreciate it. >> and i do want to say that the banquet was terrific. speeches and incredible. and the food was amazing. so. i was glad to be there. proud to be there. thank you. why thank you, commissioner.

commissioners, are there questions for the chief before i don't move. >> thank you very much. >> i had one. vice president morgan. >> i don't know -- chief. thank you for your report and think burglar the apeck convention. will there be a special scheduling or mandatory over time for the cruise. the staff and the different the fire houses that you want to share with us. are you able to share? >> yea. we asked people to sign up for over time shifts. in different places doing different things. fire watch and ambulance. and the within the footprint. and other stuff. there have been and the chief brown has been cordinating that as has chief sand tong getting

people to sign up for over time. we have to staff several different operation centers one with the secret service. you know one the dem, the police. our own. there is a heavy lift. but know we are putting everything we have to in it. and a while back i don't remember when it was. we also basically cut off that week for anymore vacation or days off. obviously people can always call in sick and may but -- we didn't want to to be short in any way, this is such an enormous world stage event. and we want to make sure that we

are good to go. >> thank you very much. get the chief kaialoa. good eveningment president and vice president, commissioners, chief i'm shayne kaialoa this is my report for september of 2023. begin with home land security. under the direction of deputy chief erika brown. i will take you back what the chief was speak of. not this month's report but the work load this chief erika brown and her team are doing. what do we have?

presentation. i will continue. extremely busy with many evans throughout san francisco. including our home events. but many others including fleet week, apeck is an e mormous event. cued toes brown and her team and i'm sure there will be another and we'll depict everything happening in home land security. chief brown and her team continue the work in apeck as the chief discussed. also the initiative. not our drone program and update under disaster manual and more in your report. the month of september she coordinated with the governor's office of emergency services. united states coast guard. fire agencies, water transportation authority. and many, many moore deliver the

training throughout the week. takes an incredible amount cordination with operations. chiefs to have our personnel trained. and this year's training was regarding merry time casualty and rescue events and responding to improvised explosives and weapons of mass destruction. d. diversity and inclusion the dreshgz of department chief shawn beaufort. among the work his team is doing this month they perform exclude conducted within 70h2 interviews and chief nicholson. deputy chief mou, battalion chief and i jump in the on the action. that is an e normous effort on top of the work the office is

doing. the office met with the msa and ems and isb and the 2 discuss the emt requirement as coming in as an h2 candidate. currently being we require the california emt license. to create efficiencies in stream line and work collectively with partners at the emsa. look to move to the national registry emt. nremt. the reason for that is as we move to [inaudible]. candidate testing center for prosecute motionals they require. aline us with fctc androus the work load on the emsa thousands put to work newscast fire department. some or many who don't live in

san francisco or california and apply for california emt. reduce the work load on the emsa align with fctc. below that we are saying here -- in regards to the job announcement clear, concise and coming up as we in this live chief nicholson the rich mondistrict auto, i mean auto, autumn moon festival. supervisor chan deliver material stolts communities and educate

on how to work from the fire department in emergency medical services and the suppression. lute mou fire behave in different circumstances you see that on the left we call a doll house we

after we have that in class room discussion and lieutenant goes to the exercises there to show individuals how materials ignite and burn and how hot and long they burn. move to the doll house and talk about the phases of fire discussed and how fire behave in vent ligz, discuss things. if am well is a fire in your home and you leave your door open and how that affects the fire and how we affect the fire and water affects the fire. it is a great program and one that the lieutenant is [inaudible] i don't want to leave the division of training they were there and assist in the delivering this information. also the month of september mission high fire and ems path way program the division of training 19 folsom receiving information and emergency medical services in the fire suppression you see there.

that young one on the right looks happy. good day. under health and safety matt al baand his team were busy like all other sections but continues the w with the cancer champions this month delivering the screening and early detection and prevention in the fire house. that is another partnership with d tech together. also, chief al baworking with thor foundation delivers our dogs we're looking at december and january for our new dogs. tropper. an announcement made through the department e mail. we received good engage am well and interviewed are to follow. chief alpha~ baanticipated in wild land working group.

now stands for bioman urban interface this group is partner with cal orbia. l.a. fire department. cal fire and united states forest service. the fire service learned over time how the wild land fire is moving not only in the wild land aspect in the urban yours you saw in santa rosa, paradise and what is actually burning you in in those const. tragszs. how it affectless the health of member and how can this group protect the members health. so, they are they have 5 vend and looking at breathing apparatus. and to be studies on how this affects the work and heat stress but still how we better protect that moves forward i will brief

you in the following months. under the bhu cappine bonjour an utilized relief list. i bring that up as vocational relief. individuals in the field interested but are not in the bhu unit but train in the behavioral health develops depth and allows for our units to take vacation. go to classes and sometimes have sick day, noise to be able to utilize and build that program. bhu in september held coffee with the bhu in batalityion battalions 2, 3 and 4. move into a safe location

outside the fire house. and discuss the behavioral health unit and the data that the unit seen to provide the resources and have our members understand what the behavioral healing unit does and how they support our members. the unit continues their work in the peer support folks in the field the peer support when support the bhu and responded to incident and provide the support. in september the bhu within 11 contacts. will in those work groups represented because of number of folks in our department and ems and followed by community paramedicine administration and our retired employees. general stress, career

occurrence, education, family, marital problems. that is important to us. we development data a look at the data, to build initiative in how we better serve our folks. in the environmental occupational health and safety -- tony did not attends our month low training he is in the health and safety committee and did attend this month and brings knowledge and data to have our commitise develop initiatives to better serve our folks. during covid it was difficult we have mask fit testing. during covid we were unable to do that program is picked up by tone and he trained others and the division of raining in perform fit testing.

performed within 32nd academy and continues it train more to assist. and conducted fork lift training at station 49 and evidences for the bhe. under the office of hope with doctor brokaw and nurse stefani phelps. the unit performed 18 exams. 58 returned work in modified duty exams. during assessment, 4338 where are 7 injury reports. this is our jurisprudence reporting system. 3807 a report filled out by the individual regarding their injury. limited partner is in medical e val. a reporting system and encourage our folks to do this in past years ago wield be hez tanlt to may be i twisted my ankle and would not report typeset and days later there was an issue. we want folks to thereupon to

protect the numbers this turns to something else. unit gave flu shots at the open enroll am at the division of training. under investigative service the captain continues our right-hand sideom drug testing and end of probation training. provide testing supplies, breathalyzer and or for the office of employee health. the new background packet 13rd was sent out they are given to process the members. that packet is great low

increased our efficiency in that unit. this packet can be filled out prior. the instructionos what to bring when the folks come in. for those appointments or intake appointment its is identifiable where there are deficiencies. and we are able instead of spending a ton of time with the individual we know right away and 15-20 minutes per personal chief or captain continuous his training. this month he took emergency class. it is a good class. all right. support services under chief mike mullen. this report like many others does not depict all the work going on. a lot of that in your packet in that unit the 165 ask for service initiated. 118 orders completed and 150

turn ups purchased for the next tpx classes. i want to thank chief mullen that is a heavy lift amongst the other duties they perform. especially with the supply chain issues and our ability to receive the turn out in time. we have 4, two of them 25 and 44 are waiting final radio programming and power install. the minipumpers type 4 and 6 responded to our brush and grass fires and nimble capability. tank, water and ability to deploy hoses quickly. and most notable low to pump and roll so our type is not what it is built for which pump and roll

capabilities give an ability to have machine at the front of the fire engine you see in that picture on a hose line. another worn in the rear. and a quick moving grass fire can perform mobile attack. be able to view that app thats us and continue to move and put out fire long the way. either quake safety and emergency response deputy chief miller continuous a ton of work more than you see in this slide. manage our managing and projects. and our focus scope work and this month the activated security cameras at station 35. we had people over that fence who got in the fire boat.

and -- our intent is to harden this facility to secure it. and this is one step in that. >> also the i have to thank chief mill and his team for this generator maintenance program this program was developed by his team temperature is out to vender. to maintain every one of our jen rirts in our fire houses to ensure that we are ready during the emergency if we lose power to vow the fire houses during an emergency. our highlights i think i did left time we were at the china town command staff. pedestrian asa league. [inaudible] and the mayor. that concludes my report and happy to take questions >> thank you very much, chief. public comment on this report of

yours. first. well is nobody propping the podium. and there is nobody on the line. >> public comment is closed. commissioners? comments or questions at this time. commissioner fine stein of i'm not sure chief kaialoa whether this is [inaudible]. nicholson but it is a distresses me we have members that don't live in the state of california. if there were a catastrophic event. there could easy low be in this city, what is the plan to get them here in do they stay home and whatever state they near and not respond? >> would you like me to take that? >> first, i -- happy to we can

look at what the numbers are. in terms of folks that don't live here and get had to you. we have an entire recall plan for when we do need to get people here for a disaster. i don't i don't know if you have more than i do. shayne? why don't we get more information on the numbers first of all. for you. >> okay. >> appreciated. why there is a recall plan and exercised like the chief stated every year do you have 24 thundershowers return to work. but i think. >> i'm sorry. >> 24. >> 24. >> 24 hours to return to work >> okay. a lot happened in 24 hours.

thank you. chief. your division is very busy. i commend you on all the things that you are tackling. i appreciate that. it is in the i all the folks here that are killing it. i want to comment a bit further on the living outside of california and may be i sparked that emt discussion. not to say everybody lives outside of california those are applying are not all from california. i appreciate that.

buffer conclude i have on the agenda a report from edchu is that part of your report i like that now and i will go back to the commissioners. captain chu will be finished. can we do that, chief? >> yes. >> captain chu. you come up to the podium, commissioners, clothes during this term, i brought up and asked members of our department the reports names. and like anthony boon we rarely see them and captain chu is one of these very involved members of an important unit and beyond what is on paper i thought it would be great conclude the calendar to have captain chu update on the office.

captain? >> thank you for the invite. thank you, good evening. name's captain edward chu in charge of bureau of personnel. i have been in the department almost 30 years. graduated 8 in class and another person in this room that is in that class. met of my career at battalion 10 lived in the city since 1970 and i still live in the city. for over half a century and with the department helpful my life. let's say that. so the [inaudible] bureau of personnel is under article 4517 to 2520. report to the division of management service. currently report to the department chief of administrations. i have a staff of 6 personnel.

oneune form, 5 civilians and w 365 days a year. monday-friday. 1600 hours weekends and holidays. basically we ask the calls and receive hundreds daily from the members went departmentful and sp voltory for over time. managing list and take care of deploy ams. everything on the computer. see. other things we do is report all the people that report to phone calls from fire suppression. airport, arson, station 49. every department i deal with.

my responsibility for my j.w. i take care of the lists we did this last month. we did a vacancy meeting that where people bid for stations to assign to. we dot notifications. we'll in the impact many people. we work per payroll. manage all the over time throughout the department.

guess through my office and we get approval and put it in. that said i like to and i work with every department head in the fire department individually. i wanted say, i cannot do my job without my staff. the best people you work with the 5 civilians and airport upon personnel. their knowledge of policies and rules hospital department run smoothly. they have been doing this for a bit of time. one person with us for over 15-16 years. she knows the policy. we get many phone calls the 411 and fire department. calls for everything. so. they are hard working and dedicated. thank you, glad to be here and

open to questions. >> thank you very much we will ask for questions and comments, chief du want to say anything. >> i love to say something about my 89th class. edchu. ed has been a huge value to this department. he volunteers to do stuff all the time work over time in the field or take on the assign am office, which is you hear no joke. and it is what makes this department run every day. making sure we have bodies and seats. and it is no small task what he does and how he does it. never complains. but he is just super hard work

and i really, really appreciate you, ed. i do. why thank you, chief. >> thank you very much, chief. comments or questions commissioner fraser. >> thank you captain chu. is this correct? yes. thank you very much. that is the thing i wondered about but did not know who to am ask how things work. you helped mow blush this. how this department works which is what i need to know. i was think burglar how to map your brain when you are w the way you work with the different people and departments and responsibilities and job descriptions and places and times; it it is, mazing. i hope you sleep well at night. thank you very much for your presentation. >> thank you very much. commissioner. comments or questions i have a few voip morgan. imented say, yea. nice meeting you i might have

met you before. you haven't. >> good to see you thank you for your report tonight and thank you for making the command staff jobs easier. thank you, great report. >> thank you very much. captain chu how long have you been with the assignment office. for on and off 15 years and the last 2-1/2 in officer in charge. >> you an on and off for 15 years. i worked i was reassigned for 3-4 months at a time people were off for and leave and i filled in for them. >> 3 times. >> proposal. >> yes. >> and then full time the last

2-1/2 years. >> okay. how many members do you deal with daily. members? i know the department is 1500. everybody guess off -- we and my crew and staff, we do in boxes. finish a lost stuff we do. waivers and questions. assignment changes. jury duty policies. over time through departments.

department chief or chief kaialoa. and suppression over time [inaudible]. >> okay. we look at the report and hear about trades and mandatory and -- assignments and sign up sheets and christmas and and new years your office deals with that. >> yes holiday over time. and all the stuff. i got a good memory and most more than half the officers in the field i know where they are. >> previous to that you give me a name i'll actual the station. gi believe you. >> captain i believe you. before you did assign am officers you were a regular member. >> bayview most of my career well over 20 years. the spot at county 10. >> yes. >> somebody does not when it

means by owning a spot. a member of station 17 for 7 years. lieutenant station 9 for 10 years. . fro for a year and captain at station 9 for several years, also. all in the bayview. i know have you 30 years in. so i wanted make sure this commission is able to hear your expertise and thank you. for your hard work. i'm going to say it back in the day when i came on i done know anybodimented go to the assignment office. that is like ems was uniform now there are civilians.

this is all history. and imented say how tough your job is how much this commission and ourselves appreciate that. and you are also dealing with prospect footwork the mandatory staffing pattern, of course. >> say again? >> we are urn the mandate of prop f? >> yes. minimal staffing. my responsibility ton the numbers and short and staffing if we don't have enough [inaudible].

thank you very much. do a heck of a job. thank you. >> appreciate it. >> madam secretary. >> thank you. >> done. >> yea >> chief to finish off in the commissioners will ask you, other questions for chief kaialoa. i wanted you to know and ask who put your slides together? >> i'm sorry. >> who put your slides together? >> theresa puts them together and i play with things. yop i pin that out it is improved and got better in the that your presentations were not but as the >> taught me a lot. division of training taught mow a lot the peculiarage we get is not what you show what you showed today w that was concise

and very impressive i wanted say that. i wanted say that i picked up and like your contact spreadsheet. 111 contacts for captain brown that is important this shows me significance in terms of. i wanted to mark on that as well. special services chief mullens, first time in terms of the report is that i was looking at the page of the training center. and i think this is the first time, correct mow if i'm wrong page 43, chief. usually with scheduling start of construction or estimated kwom plosion is to be scheduled this was the first time i seen estimates start construction fall 2025. that makes me excite exclude heart beat faster. in terms of this. also very exciting i see an

estimated completion day of fall of 2028 and this makes me really excited. of take a mobile home to gloat a senior member of the fire department. in the assignment office 16 years no one knows the numbers like captain chu. he balance the city every day and not just moving body its is looking at ranks, we have folks moving out of rank from firefighter to lieutenant and it it is an enormous job when he talks about phone calls. hundreds a day. we talk about the bid press we are talking about bidding open spot in every one of our ranks.

everyone of them. the cordination it takes the eye it take the cordination with the team it takes is bar none the best. the havecasion process and every one of our ranks and every year, moving bodies and cordinating. not only the suppression side, ems and airforce side it is enormous one thing not mentioned captain moves 150 probation easier throughout theier to balance the city. full staffing every day. beyond that, they are advanced planning when we speak of a peck and looking ahead the numbers? what do we need to build to ensure that we be fully staffd and over staffed perform. he does this year round.

wanted say that. i can't thank him enough. thank you very much and thank you for the comments. thank you very much for your report of the thank you for your patience. chief collins. i know we are an hour 15 minutes into it and congratulate on your recognition. prosecute seed. >> good evening. sandy tong ems and paramedicine my report for september. in ems chief, we averaged 370 calls this month the left month in september. this is pretty much weer track. risen about 3.4% over the left month of august.

you know last month we had a day over 400 calls to days over 400 i'm not sure if this is a trend that the call volume is creeping up. we'll see we'll track that. our market share was 78% similar to the among previous. we have one time got to the 80% we want to get to. that we strife for that a balance of call, numbers of units in the system and how many are staffed. but we are getting there but not quite there yet. why on september 8 we had 4 of new h3 level 2 graduate. they are wing now. we had additional 6emt's to paramedic we now have 6emt's. working as well. onep one notes regarding when we

have more paramedics gives us flexibility when we staff allows you to pair up with anning emt and so it is a balance of us trying to ensure we have enough in the system but also emt partners that work with them. we like having the bump up acad mes people going to school in the paramedic division and rank with us. on september 25 we started our 24th h3 level one emt class and we are hoping that at least we will have 12 folks graduate and hit the streetsing weekend. than i will be getting a taste of what it is to work holiday and all that. and in the next one the emf

activities. i mentioned before, we are now bringing back in service training. for our als providers is good provides an opportunity to get together with other paramedics. given instruction and in person training on updated prosecute cols, policies and review of old skills and introduction of new skills the thing this is we have been trying to do with a target solutions online training which does in the give you the depth or allow for the conversation or allow for the question and answers. having had back in our system in service training we bring in our per se metedics from the ambulance. paramedicine and the fire app are the us to bring them in and do this in person. a 4 our class we are trying to do quarter low?

we are thankful than i do it twice a year in line with our in step when the protocol and policies reviewed and changed through the local emergency medical service agency. exit think you have seen the pictures of station 49. doing the commencement rigz of september 11th. i just have been i irrelevant lost pictures we were able to capture. of our members stan nothing attention reading the names and then lead by our chief of operations. it is a replanned for it and take it seriously. a somber event and recognizes the ems providers that died during 911. community paramedicine. our highlights the biggest is

september 7, the san francisco fire department community basement panama river in california to receive formal approval of our community paramedicine programs. we have been operating under a pilot phase. of our programs. and so once there was legislation ab1544 that was introduced in 2020. when that came in being it changed the regulations that allowed now for the local emergency medical services agencies to approve community paramedicine programs and your jurisdiction. there was a lot of regulation and criteria and questions of law ifkdz wes have to prepare for to provide to define in our own programs and so we worked with our emergency medical services agency.

chief pang and doctor sxeshgs msa we really had to work together to try to bring this forward. all of this also had to be brought forward before the pilot phase of the program expired november first. so. in the mik of time. we were able to get this approval by the state. to now official low have the program it is. that includes our street teams. ems6 program temperature is a huge accomplishment. shout out to our division. i don't think00ue can imagine mag well. may be. the amount of effort this went in all of the do you meanation that had to be complete exclude the ridiculous requirements we had to fulfill on do this.

this time department of homelessness and staff members. show the a view of the shelter. always something important and understand so this we understand how we access the system and get people in the needed shelter and processes are than i have to deal with to get people housed. upon you saw in your report the -- street response education campaign. had members highlighted i don't know if you click on ron castro highlight in the a new public education campaign that was with

dem and other and piers and things. n that vow will see more in month the ems6 program and give you background on our programism want to the chief is the og the community paramedicine. he started the tome in 2004 when he was the loan guy trying to address callers we had. almost all of us called him or her to independent it an incident we told him we seen this person 15 times in the left week can you help us. he was the saving grace for all of us. where we had hope and say to member.

help us figure out how to address the neateds of the person without calling 911 and bring them to the hospital. how do we deal with. he said i got this i have connections and going to help give this person in shelter and get them in a treatment program. all of that was manage we were not able to do as 911 providers our option was to bring them to emergency room. having him start the program and i don't know this he gets recognition he deserves i want to make a shout out to him. unfortunately in 2009 it was demobilized. in 2016. the issues we had with staffingly this is how we get

them off the street and -- do something else besides i response in 911. we were -- selected lead this perform they worked midnight 7 days a week and helped make that program. a huge success. just from -- 2017. until now emf6 documented there are, 723 encounters. that's mind blowing. they do dh w president tome gets a lot of attention now. but behind the scene system ems6

they are going out dealing with folk this is have the chronic issues this don't get addressed on i tipical emergency system and make alegality of connection and get people in the care. and they provide a depth of rep with many of the clines to be able to feel like member is taking care and somebody has needs in mind. hole in september that is on per about one a day and also have got most of our paramedics trained. the community captains do 51'50s all are now also able to put holds in. and with our continue to try to -- get people in treatment.

between our team and paramedics on ambulance we have been able to log 40 -- administrations. that is moving along as well. that's my report. thank you. chief. public comment on chief's report? well is nobody propping. nobody on our comment line. commissioner? thank you. when a great report i was important it go out when i was a new commissioner and i did see a close and personal from the get go when they do and it was very heartning and impressive and you know necessary. i have one will question about the activity sum row. in your report.

thank you. i have one question about the activity summary. and that's going cross the top. its got calls ems calls. average minute and transport is this ems average transport minute. so those are long. yes. why and is that. the total time call. >> of that includes what is next to ems average and the trans port all together.

it being be extended time. you know waiting. >> great. that helps me. understand the numbers thank you very much. great report. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. vice president morgan? you have a question? >> yes. thank you for your report. i wanted congratulate you on the moving oust pilot phase and with the street response teams and stuff. and -- the -- community paramedicine division.

so that is -- that's very good. congratulationses and you guys do a great job. i'm a big fan of the street response teams and you and chief tang and you guys are angels in disguise. i locked at your charts. i found one that was -- i like the charts. and -- you guys share this with the police department in the charts near can use wrchl not this one, no. >> i was curious. they are good charts informative.

that's all i got. >> thank you very much >> thank you very much. commissioner collins. great work. excellent report. my question is, of the data that you aggregate, when do you share and with whom do you share it? depends on the thing we are looking at. with a lot of the community paramedicine programs the street teams there are dash boards that are visible near public low visible. we keep, all of the data is when we use internal low. to determine if we are doing things prescriptionally present low. more efficient and huwe do that. there is in the a lot that we put out that is public facing from ems. there is you know from the city website they have response times

and i think this is the main thing this gets locked at prosecute ems side of it. so. depending what it is you are asking i can tell you more specific low. >> it is a 30,000 foot question. the city issues. nar can, fentanyl, and the w this you are doing is so clearly impacting the problem and the need of greater support. i'm wondering, you know what other cities not for profits that say they are doing. what is the way to put all the data together in your vow and get a big are impact? >> i do think that when we are collecting the data and looking at how we are performing, and the relationship that we have with other agencies thez

conversations we have i know the chief meets with, lot of the policy makers to discuss exactly that. this is when we are seeing the trends we are seeing the information we have. this is when i think as a chief that we should do. these are suggestions we have based on data and when we then and there is how we improve our services butt services of the city. and how we tackle this as a whole city and not piecemeal department to department t. is a challenge everybody has their own challenges and so it is trying to figure out how do we integrate the information that we have with everyone else to come up with a solution that serves all. that has been you know the w that has to be done and i think you know especially with chief nicholson there are a lot of good rep this is exist and those conversations and the ability to have this dialogue to able to say clearly. these other things we see are in

the working and how can we work with you. that data we provide to her can help support. we were trig to advocate for 60emt's and the emf there was data reviewed by controltory look at how are we you know are we crying we want more people or is it prudent in data. we were able to prove that this was a need and we were under staffd and needed have this funding. so. they supported we were able to provide them with information and they being help back us up. great. good to hear. thank you. why thank you very much. commissioner collins. chief tong, i wanted congratulate you chief nicholson

and tang and on this formal approval. in terms of ems it is a big deal. huge big deal. and wanted to formally congratulate the approval of the pera medicine ems6 within the state as well. i appreciate again we have a reason with the chief again. you thought about it as a concept. i go a roadway along with him and in terms of formal wragz and to see that and the ability to take out to paramedicine. it make a lot of sense part of this drift become to when our

ambulance services came for the healing department you are a veteran a few left in the department. that was a huge growing point for the fire department. . they say inherit or this is when we have to do. i wanted say that. i wanted congratulate you on rescue nigdz. chief. because i thank you is irrelevant well deserved. and very important. over all chief tong thank you very much. in dam secretary. item 5 resolution 2023-06 discussion and possible action regarding proposed resolution 2023-0 sick recommending the board of supervisors authorize the san francisco fire department to accept a donation of 1, 829 smoke detectors and

carbon monoxide detectors 62, 857 dollars from k idde fire department prevention division. >> welcome. i know we continued this resolution. present this item. good evening mr. passport and voip and commissioners and chief. next item the acceptance of 63 thundz in donated smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detector this is part of the gift acceptance policy. it was continued from left meeting the reason for the continuation we received additional do nagdz of units which increased the total from the key trigger that added required to be repested for

public consumption because of the change in the amount that is over all that is great news. here to request president trump for this item. the actual item is 63 thousand dollars over 1800 smoke detectors and 500 carbon monoxide detectors donated given out in safety events throughout the year. they are targeted for under serve community and elder low populations thank you for the donation happy to answer questions. >> thank you mr. corso. i want to do public comment and i will direct united states questions or -- nobody approaching the podium. and nobody on the public comment line >> thank you very much. public comment is closed on this item. commissioners. commissioner feinstein in mr. corso. thank you for this and it is terrific news. this may sound like a car sattic

question but i don't intend it to be. who will change the batteries? well, that's on a related question we don't we assist with donations of these and the to families to community won't don't do installation we partner with community organizations the red cross to make sure they get installed correct low. >> that's great. >> okay. thank you. i have some this need changing the chirping can drive you crazy. it was know person question for me. thank you. why thank you very much, commissioner fraser? >> no , i like to move that we accept the proposed resolution. >> we have a motion >> wonderful. congratulations. why wonderful.

>> i second. >> move and second. >> president nakajo. >> aye. >> vice president morgan. >> aye. i want to add he is tall to change a battery. [laughter]. commissioner collins. >> yes. jot motion is unanimous. >> thank you. >> thank you for the good nows and the hard work >> thank you. >> and secretary. >> adjournment. >> ladies and gentlemen, commissioners this meeting is adjourned. clear clear

>> the city of san francisco is invest nothing resources to care for people experiencing a mental health or substance use crisis on the streets. is this includes new programs and the expansion of successful pilots >> worried about you lying on the street here. >> we can take them to other facilities like mental health facilities or shelters or offer resources and connect them to social workers and follow up. we try to provide safety for the public and for them to let them know than i are not in trouble and we are here to offer them many resources and service they

may want and takes buildinged the relationships with the public president people we contact with. takes time and trust. the city street team include mental health clinicians, community paramedics, emt's, social workers and councillors train in traumatic care u most vagzal interviews. cultural competence and he deescalation. >> san francisco 911 when is the emergency? >> san francisco trained 9 leondis patchers operate inspectly from the police department. through investments and alternatives to law enforcement, the city ruled the police sponses to people experiencing mental health emergencies. >> now that we have a team that is geared toward mental health that helped dispatchers able to assist the public when call nothing for common they don't think needs an ambulance or fire or police they think they need help.

i wanted to be that social worker what wents the extra mile and figured out how to navigate the system. joy feel great when i help someone that's why i got in the work if you are experiencing an emergency or worry body safety on the street call 911. for nonemergencies use 311. you can learn more about the street response program at i'm chanel joyce i'm a firefighter for the san francisco fire department. i currently am the station 4. in the mission bay districtism lived in san francisco in noe valley. grew up with my mom and i went to high school in san ma te'o. after high school i went to mississippi where i played volleyball in university of southern mississippi. what got me going after college

was i was applying to place related to fire and police i loved my experience but my family is home. i grew up here and could not be far from my family anymore i came back. >> i have been a firefighter for 4 years the transition to the fire department has been seam tells is the same. team work and coming together. transitioning to the job med me comfortable that i made the right decision to come become and work for a fire department that is big in diversity and equality and becoming a fell. i got to be a member at a few different fire stations. each station has their own culture. i worked in places that are xroem and with a young crew and had the most seniority have 3 or 2 years in whatever it may be.

learning stuff when people have been in the job for 20 plus years and learning from people got in it grew me to adopt and work with everybody. >> a lot of people will come up to mow and say, thank you for your service noise to see a woman in the fire department. you are doing it. it is nice to see kids waiving look a woman firefighter. they get excited i love that part of the job seeing the excitement that people see. you are a woman you can do this job. every person has a good experience with the fire department. no one ever spokous they say, they are here. they're do this work and everybody loves them. not everybody gets that in their job. i don't do it for the recognition but niez nice to see people that respect had you do and know you did a lot to get

here and you still do to work and you set your life on the line for other people. it is cool.

you're watching san francisco rising with chris manners. special guest is david chu. hi i'm chris manners and you're watching san francisco rising the show that's about restarting rebuilding and re imagining our city. i guess today is david chiu, the city attorney for the city and county of san francisco , and he's here today to talk to us about the opioid crisis, reproductive rights and the non citizen voting program. mr chu, welcome to the show. thanks for having me on happy to talk about

whatever you want me to talk about, so can we start by explaining the difference between the city attorney's office and the district attorney's office? i think it could be slightly confused. that is a very common fusion with members of the public so um, if you get arrested in san francisco by the san francisco police department, all criminal matters are dealt with by the san francisco district attorney . we handle all civil matters on behalf of the city and county of san francisco. what that means is a number of things. we provide advice and counsel to all actors within city government from our mayor. every member of the board of supervisors to the 100 plus departments, commissions boards that represent the city and county of san francisco. we also defend the city against thousands of lawsuits. so if you slip and fall in front of city hall if there's a bus accident if there is an incident involving the san francisco police department, we defend those matters. we also bring

lawsuits on behalf of the city and county of san francisco, where most famous for litigating and obtaining the constitutional right to marry for lgbtq couples have sued gun manufacturers, payday lenders, oil companies, you name it, who are undercutting the rights of san franciscans and the city and county of san francisco. so now moving on to the opioid crisis. i understand you've had some success in court, um, dealing with manufacturers, distributors and pharmacies. could you elaborate a little bit on that for us, so the opioid industry and by that i refer to the legal industry that prescribes pain pills. um over years. uh, deceived americans and resulted in literally thousands upon thousands of deaths and tragedies that we see on our streets every day when it comes to the addictions that folks are experiencing. many of the addictions really stemmed from

what happened over a decade plus period where the prescription pain industry marketed prescription pills in ways that were false. we were one of thousands of jurisdictions around america that brought a lawsuit against the opioid industry. but we've had a particular set of successes that others have not. ah we initially brought a lawsuit a few years ago against every part of the opioid supply chain, and that included manufacturers, distributors and retailers, including pharmacies over the course of four plus years. a number of these corporate defendants settled with us. we've as of this moment brought in over $120 million of cash and services. to the city to help address the root causes of what we're talking about. but a few months ago, we had a really historic verdict against the pharmacy, walgreens and their role walgreens was responsible for literally over 100 million

pills, flooding the streets of san francisco over a period of years where they flouted federal law that require them to track where they're pills were going to. they had a what? what we refer to as a phil phil phil. pharmacy culture where folks would bring in their prescriptions, and the pharmacist would just fill them without checking why someone was coming in multiple times without checking why certain doctors were seen a 100 fold increase in the number of opioid prescriptions that they were prescribing. so we had a historic judgment against walgreens recently, but it's been a very intense lawsuit. and we know that will never bring back the lives that we have lost to opioid addictions. but it's critical for us that we get the resources that we need. maybe one other thing i'll mention because it's often confusion. a large percentage of folks who are addicted to street level drugs say heroin or fentanyl started their addictions. with

painkillers, opioid medications that were prescribed through doctors provided through pharmacies and so literally the suffering that we're seeing on our streets was caused by the opioid industry over many, many years and has created the significant crisis that we are dealing with right now. right right now moving on. i understand after the recent supreme court ruling, striking down robust as wade that you've put together an organization that's designed to help mm. provide free services to people who are both. seeking abortions and providing them can you tell us about the organization? sure so, um, before the dobbs decision came down, but after we learned about the leak from the supreme court about the draft that suggested the decision would be as bad as it has turned out to be, um, i reached out to leadership from the bar association of san francisco because we knew that if that decision came down there would be tens of thousands of patients

around the country as well as providers whose legal situation would be in jeopardy. women doctors, nurses who could be subjected to lawsuits who could be arrested who could be prosecuted, particularly in red states? 26 states where rights are being rolled back or in the process or have already been rolled back because of the dobbs decision. so we put out a call to lawyers all over the bay and frankly, all over the country, and as of this moment there have been over 70 law firms that have answered our call to be part of the legal alliance for reproductive rights who have committed to reviewing cases and providing pro bono assistance to patients and providers who are at legal risk. we also are looking at potential cases that these lawyers can bring against various states. in these areas that are looking to deprive women and patients and providers of their of their rights. um it is a very dark time in america, and i'm really proud that that

barrier attorneys, the legal community care have stepped up to answer the call. it's very important that's great. so now the non citizen voting program that was passed by voters just for school boards has faced them court challenges recently, but it was in place for the most recent election that we've had. how do you see that situation panning out? in fact, it's been in place for now. five school board elections. um so a little bit of background in our san francisco schools over one out of three kids. has a parent who is a non citizen who doesn't have a say in the election of the policy makers that dictate the future of our san francisco public schools, and so over a number of years, there has been a movement to allow immigrant parents to vote in school board elections. few things i'll mention about that is our country has a very long history when it comes to allowing immigrants to vote. from 17 76 for 100 and 50 years until after

world war. one immigrants were allowed to vote in most states in our country on the theory that we want to assimilate immigrants in american democratic values and institutions, and it wasn't until an anti immigrant backlash in world war one that that sort of ended. but in recent years, um cities across america have allowed this to happen. in fact, at this moment, believe there are over a dozen cities that have voted to allow non citizens to vote in a number of context. now, this is particularly important in our schools just given how challenge our schools are, and given that we know that when we engage more parents in her school system, regardless of their citizenship it helps to lift up our schools for all parents. and so in 2016 the voters of san francisco past about measure that allowed this to happen. unfortunately earlier this year, there were conservative organizations that came to san francisco to bring a lawsuit to try to overturn this

, and i should also mention it is obviously the perspective of our office and our city that this is constitutional. nothing in the constitution prohibits non citizens from voting. and in fact, there's an explicit provision in the constitution that allows chartered cities like san francisco when it comes to school board elections to be able to dictate the time and manner of those elections. and so, uh, we are involved in litigation on this issue. there was an initial ruling that was not good for us that essentially said at the trial court level. we shouldn't allow this. um we appealed it up to the appellate level. the appellate court made an initial decision to allow this past november election to proceed as it has for the last previous four elections. we're going to be in front of that court soon. stay tuned. we'll see what happens. it was good to hear that the city was able to reach a settlement with the center for medicare and medicaid services are meant laguna honda could still operate. how did you

manage to reach that agreement? it was not an easy conversation . just a little bit of background. so laguna honda has been an incredibly important institution in san francisco for 150 years, taking care of our most vulnerable patients are frail, very elderly patients, many of whom are at end of life. and a few years ago, there were some issues in that hospital. some violations of rules that we very much want to make sure don't get violated. there were folks that weren't using proper ppe, who are bringing cigarette lighters into the facility, who might have brought some contraband into the facilities. we have zero tolerance for that and have made that very clear. we self reported some of these violations to the federal authorities. and unfortunately from our perspective, they took the very disproportionate step of ordering the closure. the permanent closure of lugano, honda. problematic on a number of reasons. first and foremost, there are just no skilled nursing facility beds not just in california but around the

country. after their order came down. we literally were putting 1000 calls a day to skilled nursing facilities around california and around the country and could find nowhere to move the 700 patients that we had had in the gonna honda but just as disturbingly as we were forced to start moving some of these patients, a number of them died. there's a concept in medicine known as transfer trauma. when you move someone who is that frail and unfortunately, folks folks died and we were at a point where we were five weeks away from the deadline for the federal government. that they had provided to us to close the facility. so uh and we have been trying for months to get the federal government to reconsider their action, so i was compelled to bring a lawsuit on behalf of the city and county of san francisco and very pleased and appreciate that we were able to come to a settlement whereby transfers will be delayed at least until next year. we're

going to have at least a year of funding. to keep the facility open, and hopefully we can get back up on our feet and ensure that no future violations occur because this is an institution that has to stay open for the good of these patients. quite right, quite right. so finally, congratulations on winning an important public power service dispute with pg and e. um why is it important that the city's rights as a local power provider maintained well, so san francisco has been a local power provider for decades. we are fortunate to have access through our hedge hetchy hydroelectric system to provide electricity to a number of providers, particularly public recipients of that. and unfortunately, pg any has used its monopoly when it comes to private electricity to try to stop that, and to block that, and from our perspective, they violated federal law in adding literally tens of millions of dollars of expenses to san francisco and institutions that we're trying

to ensure um, public power infrastructure. put years of delays on our ability to do this, and so we had to bring a number of appeals in the federal commission. ah we were successful in those appeals, and there was a decision recently that basically held the pg and e could not use its monopoly to unfairly delay or add tens of millions of dollars of cost. to the city and county of san francisco, as we are trying to move forward with our vision of public power. clearly pgd has not been able to serve not just san francisco but northern california. well we all know that with the wildfires with its bankruptcies, with all the issues that they've had, we think there is a different model to move forward on and we are grateful to the court. and providing a ruling that allows us to move forward. well thank you so much for coming on the show. i really appreciate the time you've given us here today. i appreciate and thanks for your thanks for your questions. thank you. well that's it. for this episode, we'll be back with

another one shortly for sf gov t v. i'm chris manners. thanks for watching. yeah.2023.) >> absent a commission d'antonio yes here. >> commissioner friedenbach here. >> commissioner preston here. >> compares and chair we don't have quorum now. okay. so move on to the land acknowledgement for that now. >> okay. >> >> ancestral homeland of the ramaytush (rah-my-toosh) ohlone (o-lon-ee) who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. forgotten the irresponsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as wl