>> agenda today before we get started as accustomed. we'll start off with our land acknowledgment. where acknowledge that we are on the unseeded homeland of the ramaytush ohlone, as the indigenous stewards of this land, the ramaytush ohlone have never seeded or, as care takers as of this place as well as all people who reside in their territory. as guest, we recognize that we benefit from their homeland and we would like to pay our respect to the community and by

affirming their soverne rights as first peoples. i would now turn our meeting over to our commission secretary to advise the public of public comment. and policy and roll call. >> thank you, chair. good morning, this meeting is being held in hybrid format and in-person and broadcasted live on sf gov. tv. members attending in-person as well as remotely will have an opportunity to provide public comment specific to each presentation as well as general public comment. members of the public who wish to provide public comment remotely will be heard in the order as they add themselves to the queue. members will have up to 3 minutes to comment on the presentation. to comment remotely, 415-655-0001, access 26627430901.

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phones and similar sound producer electronic devices are prohibited at this meeting. please be advised that the chair may remove anybody for use of cell phone or any similar electronic devices. thank you for your cooperation. this places you on item 4, announcements by the chair. >> first of all good morning again to every one and commissioners good morning to you as well. i wanted to set the scene and provide the context. we're in a terrible time in the world. as we know the unrest happening in middle east and ukraine and israel and haiti and nigel. there are a lot of challenge that we face in our city. in the spirit that is happening that it will be about justice and peace and that we focus at the task at hand.

in the world things are divided by political perspective and persuasions. not all the politics at play. we want to take this time not only to do the work but also provide an opportunity for community. so i'm glad that every one has shown up. we want to give voice to those that have a voice, you have a voice, your voice matters. we want to make sure that we open up the opportunity for to you speak. so we look forward to a very productive meeting there is a lot on the agenda, but we'll do the best we can to get things moving along, okay. : with that, that mrailses us to item 5. >> i move approval. >> second. >> has been moved and properly

seconded. all those in favor, please, actually we have public comment. so we ask members of the public if you wish to make comment on agenda item number, which agenda item are we on here? 5, at this time, only agenda number 5 in terms of our meeting minutes. if you wish to make public comment, please do so at this time. any members of the public? any online? >> there is no calls. >> it's been moved and properly second, all those in favor, please indicate by aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> there is no opposed, ayes have it. this places us on item number 6. and i know that, we have for

the commissioners, we actually want to move item number 8 up so i ask if the motion can be -- ~>> so moved. >> second. >> it's been moved and properly second. all those in favor. >> aye. >> aye. >> there is no opposed, so we'll now we move to item number 8 up to this point right now. >> so they will honor a staff member alonso a villa. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry, alfonso. this is a very exciting time, because he's celebrating his birthday today. >> oh, happy birthday. >> director, executive director take it away. >> sure, thank you. good morning, every one, good morning, commissioners.

this is a really exciting day because we're starting our monthly employee recognition and this process will happen each month in front of each of you and in front of the public. it's a chance to really honor the staff that do amazing stuff. i see alfonso today has brought his family with him, which people will do and he's got members of his team here too, supporting him. so it's great to see everybody here. i want to start by just saying, we're really excited to honor alfonso avila at this monthly staff recognition as our monthly staff recognition honoree. alfonso is the building and ground supervisor at hsh, he was nominated for his dedication and work ethic. alfonso is a true asset to our team. whenever something in our building repairs repair or

attention, he's quick to respond and ensures that the job is secured prom tee and essentially. consistent ability to address issues immediately. which contributes to the work place and our service site. what sets alfonso apart is his unwaivering positive attitude. he approaches every task with a smile and willingness to help. regardless of whether it falls within a specific department or not. his eagerness to respond to tasks, demonstrates not only his versatility but also his care, of our organization and staff and people we serve. in a nut shell, alfonso embody the dedication that in a successful work environment. his contributions extend bond his job description making him

a valuable member of our team. the way he goes above and beyond to support our building deserves special recognition. alfonso exemplifies the quality of dedicated employee, his positive and tireless efforts have a significant impact in our department and most deserving of this acknowledgment. and i want to give a shout out all the team, we're so grateful that we have you in staff. i also see a lot of what you do in front of me and you really help things flow. without you, we would not be able to be hsh. so thank you for all of you. alfonso if you can come to the podium, we'll come down.

so al fon son on behalf of hsh, we present you with this certificate. actually you'll get something better later. we want to present you with this certificate for our appreciation for the work that you do for hsh. >> and happy birthday to you. also i want your team to stand in, this is a testament of your leadership. and we're excited to celebrate this high honor with you, congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> congratulations have a great time today. >> i will. >> take a picture here.

>> wonderful, i will not ask your age but i'm certainly grateful that you're able to take some time on your birthday to celebrate with us. this places us on item number 6, communications from the commission. are there any communications from our commissioners? >> i did forward a message, i don't know if it went out about the homeless connect event. so, i can reforward it. there is opportunity to sign up

as a volunteer at the december homeless connect event. i enjoyed participating in the last one. you get a free t-shirt, that's a bonus but i think i was called a participate buddy. and--participant buddy and i would escort people to help them with all the services available that day under one roof at bill graham auditorium. and it was a really eye-opening experience for me to see all the various service that's people can tap into and whether it be, eyeglasses, information about housing, job opportunities, just a huge range of services and providers under one roof. so i encourage folks to participate.

i think they're doing the routine, i believe the next one is coming up after thanksgiving. >> do you know the date? >> i did send the information to commissioner secretary about and i'll make sure that reaching her. there is a link to sign up for volunteering. >> yes. and i do have the privilege walking through the last event and talk to some volunteers, they're doing some incredible work. it was incredible to experience that. any other commissioners have any announcements? if not, we can move to public comment on this particular item. are there any members of the public that wish to make public comment on this particular item? you want to line. >> there are no callers on the line. >> wonderful. this places us on item number

7, our executive director's report. >> good morning again commissioners. and as usual, i'll be giving you some program and data update. if somebody can pull up the presentation, that would be great. and, also i will be trying to incorporate in the questions and comments that have come to us from you, either either the questions that came in at the last commission meeting or last month. we try to get as many as possible, hopefully this will be sufficient.

>> as we're waiting for members of the public, there is a hard copy located on the table here, so if you would like to pick that up. it's the director's report, and feel free to pick up the other packets as well.

>> i did find the email december 6th as the next community day of service event at the bill graham civic auditorium. i did a morning shift and that was adequate for me, it was about four hours but it was intense work.

>> chair would you like to take any other item while we're waiting. >> where are we in things in getting started. we can do that or take a two to three-minute break. are we almost there? >> do you want to do general public comment? >> we can. let's wait, two to three more minutes. and perhaps we can take a quick break, if anyone wants to take

a break. >> we are ready to go, we can proceed. >> okay. okay, shannon, if we can go to the out reach slide, just two slides forward. there we go. so, so out reach increase lightly with 2868 engagements in the month. and i just want to note that

you'll be hearing the new homeless out reach contract later on the agenda. so you'll get to hear a little bit more about the team. and then, moving on to coordinated entry assessments, those assessments were steady in the month at 1129 and just a remiepder that this includes new and reassessments, not the number of people newly homeless in our community. next slide. so last meeting, you asked about the demographics. we've included several slides in the demographics of people served in the homeless response system. we now have full demographic data for the first year, quarter, on people engaged with coordinated entry and at different steps of the housing process. in keeping past months, we're

enrolling black indigenous people of color and referring them to housing at a similar rate, indicating we're not losing people along the way in the housing process at a disproportionate rate. for example this most resent quarter will black and 36% of households were black. similarly, latin a multi racial people made up 23 percent and 22 percent of those houses. this slide, shows the same data for households and coordinated entry broken out bisexual orientation and gender. no large discrepancies in gender identity data in this 23-24 fiscal year either. 6% of household enrolled in coordinated entry as identified as lesbian and gay and,--gay or

lesbian. we see a similar alignment in our gender data as well. this information gives you a population we're serving throughout the stages of the coordinated entry process. and then these next slides take a look at demographic of households moved into permanent housing. you can see that pro motioner of the house that are latin a, have increased in 15 percent to fiscal 19-20 and 23-24. black households represent a smaller portion of households so far. dropping from 39 percent in fiscal year 22-23 to 36 percent. this could be in part to changes status changes that rolled out but could be lead by other factors will i lead by

our equity team, hsh is continue to go monitor this. we also have breakouts of people moved into housing, over the past five fiscal years by sexual orientation and. lgbtq people moving into housing is steadily. bisexual is around 4 or 5 percent over the last five years. the percent of women moving into housing has decreased in fiscal year 21-22 and 23-24. these guests were around 68% male while overall in our system, people have been 60% male over the last four years. and thep the top table on this slide, shows households enrolled in coordinated entry and the bottom table shows

household by age. our system has prioritized older adults for housing. in fiscal year, 21-22 and 22-23 older adults over 65 made up 8 percent and 6 percent of the population enrolled in coordinated entry but made up 10 percent moved into housing respectively. we see this trend continue in the first quarter of 23 and 24 making six percent of households and ten percent of those housed. this is due to our effort to rehouse guests out of the hotels, the populations intended to be older and our prioritization of the most vulnerable per housing. you can dig deeper into this data on our website. and then research and development is under way for coordinated entry assessment for survivors of domestic

violence. we participated in the project homeless connect event on 9-27 and served 145 people with partners, catholic charities dolores street and lyric. this include one client living outside who's success engaging with sbons system at the event is an example of why this entry point is essential to your point commissioner. she was reinstated to the housing queue and received an emergency shelter placement. and then, our multi disciplinary team, continues good work at sanctuary. and in september, they had success in enrolling guests in a variety of programs. as we're seeing the results of this team. we're kind of trying to fine tune that process. we have a resent client success story.

the top five user of local hospital department was enrolled in the housing disability ethicy program and housing. no emergency room visit since. and then problem solving resolutions, you heard about problem solving last meeting. it continued in september with 48 resolutions, again the most common is aift as soon as a still with move-ins. and then as a reminder we have an online dashboard for our housing programs. we're still at 12,270 units of housing. housing placement picked up with 206 in september into this portfolio, i just want to note that this excludes transfers.

and then, the housing placement team continues to focus on vacancy relux. unit level infrastructure has lead faster and more targeted placement. we're expanding the continuium of care and prevetting. we got targeted referral management with the san francisco authority. we're targeting the high buildings, our goal is to reduce that vacancy by 70, so by the end of this month. and we're continuing home street to home placement. 18 remaining stablely housed. and we expect occupancy rate to be 93% by february 2024. so as a result of this work, vacancies decreased to 8.9 percent. meaning we have occupancy rate of 99.1 percent.

only 2.2 percent of the units are left for referrals. and then moving on to the next slide. which should be evictions by provider. there you go, sorry about that. back one. >> okay. >> last month, we shared with this about evictions. we're working to get you the data by operator. unfortunately our data system not property management providers. and so many of our supportive services have sub contracts with the property managers. the property manager is the entity who handles the evictions. so we're in the process now of dig deeper into this data so we can make it available for project manager by next month.

given that we only had two weeks, we were unable to get the right data to you and we want to make sure that it's correct, so we're not calling out the wrong providers. >> thank you, i appreciate that. 17 providers had no evictions, 8 had eviction of 1 percent. 2 percent eviction between 2 and 3 percent. two had eviction 3 percent. and bell we will have those named for you by next time. and then, in terms of other housing updates. city gardens permanent supportive housing is wrapping up. in fact, we had a big grand opening yesterday. i believe, yesterday. it seems like, a week ago but it was yesterday and it was very exciting to see, us be fully leased up there. soy want to thank all the staff and the providers who helped us

meet our home key lease up deadline at that site. the mayor and supervisor dorsey were there yesterday to help celebrate. but it was a lot of work to get that lease up quickly, and it took a lot of coordination which is always important but really a lot of coordination with our staff and housing authority and other providers who are involved. i want to give a big shout out to every one who made that happen. we also had the diva celebration in october. i was there with the mayor and supervisor peskin, that was also a very joyous event. and then providers, the t.j. i justice project and community forward sf, were selected for the 112, 150 supportive housing spots a lo indicated to the trans initiative and then, we

had a solicitation of interest issued in late october for property management and supportive services for the new supportive housing site. and then emergency housing voucher issuance continue with 677 households housed as of october 19th. across our shelter system on october 249ing, just that point in time, we had 384 capacity and 91% occupancy. so 384 being the full capacity. and then, just moving on with shelter, we launched our domestic hotel voucher program. in october a referral partners will expand in the next month. we had an input session on 10-25.

on october 25th, we co-hosted a grand reopening and dedication of the oasis shelter. since the early days of the pandemic and hsh st. antony and providence. st. anthony has purchased the property and will continue to operate. we celebrated this partnership at an event with the mayor, supervisor press kin as well as families participating in the program. and i just want to say that was a wonderful partnership, you know, really fortunate that st. anthony had a donor that was supportive of supporting children and providence was willing to partner with st. anthony and it's really a testament to what our providers can do together to serve the people, that we fwhaoed to serve but welcomely in this

case, family's with children. we're also making some changes to the adult shelter reservation wait list. on average there were 20 beds available with 350 people on the wait list. we already made some changes to provide. first we're now calling 4 people on the top on the list for every one available bed. rather than calling on a 1-1 ratio to ensure that beds are getting filled. second, rather than stopping, agents start calling near the end of the shift to try to fill all available beds. and then finally, the controller office started an evaluation of the program to recommend further improvements to the department. and program update shelter, so increasing capacity in the next

few months, we have reinflation at four congregate sites, we're adding 110 beds on top of 17 beds already adding. we're adding an additional 61 beds at dolores spring shelter and the interface shelter is opening up on 11-10, november 10th and that's overnight shelter at rotating churches operated by services. and this is the, partnership we have with the inter faith community that happens every year. and then, moving on to additional updates. we have a local legislative update. in october, we got approval of

for the local board of candle stick sublease. that is going to state lands commission in december. we had port commission approval for the new memorandum of understanding for the embarcadero which we're expanding. the three-grant agreement with episcopal commitment. a waiver to the payment ordinance to allow hsh to solicit support for shelters and homeless services and this fall, we'll also introduce, new, the new sf homeless out reach team, sf hot contract agreement which you'll hear about today. the new lease for bay shore navigation center. a new lease for a cabin safe parking site at 2177 gerald.

and an ordinance extending the sunset date of streamline contracting for homeless services. and then the next slide, so at the state level, the 2023 state legislative session wrapped up on october 14th, the last day for the govern to sign our retail bills. have supported a b1085 was vetoed by the govern sighting lack of funds. this would require the state to seek federal approval to make housing services a medical benefit rather than option for individual plan. a b441 was gutted and amended and not move forward. this would have made advanced payment for the income tax credit and other tax credits. sbf57 was vaoeted by the

governor who said it was duplicate. sb37 is held in committee and this will create housing subsidies for older adults and people with disability. other bills impacting our work include sb557 which was approved. and this is established additional protections for tenants against illegal evictions. sb91 also approved ex sem pg projects to supportive housing from the california environmental quality act. two bills that were were approved will go to voters this march for final approval. a b336 updated the act to behavioral services act. we focuses and allows use for treatment of substance use disorder without a cooccuring condition. a b531 is a bond measure to

build more treatment beds and increase patient capacity. and then, moving on to update from our equity office. we had the third series of training for staff that was completed yesterday with approximately 150 staff trained. and then we have some update with homelessness trans initiative. we had affirming trans access to housing training. the first session will be, will be in november of 2023. sessions will be offered monthly for provider partners with over 250 sign ups as of october 2023. so we have a lot of interest in that training. there are four open seats that

the commission must consider appointing soon. with nominations, active and then the shelter committee is now conducting all meetings in-person with the next meeting in december 12th. there are five vacant seats but active nomination nz place. so we also received instructions from the mayor on reductions. i'm sure that you've heard, it's a tough financial outlook for the city right now. we're suppose to propose an 8.4 million dollars reduction plan by eliminating vacant position sxz reducing non essential travel. also deactivating it licenses and equipment and then estimate spend rate for current agreement and reallocating funds for programs with consistent under spend and finally to propose reductions

to under performing agreements. h.h while continue to go maintain programming and staffing. and obviously, this is an exercise that happens often during the year, this was very early and an indicator that the mayor's office is concerned about the financial outlook. you know, the city is trying to get prepared early to make sure that we don't run into problems later in the fiscal year. and then finally as always, we are hiring. and we appreciate your support directing any good candidates you know to hsh, position right side posted on the department of human resources website. we have 241fte with 54 vacant positions. that was something you asked that we say every time.

since july 1, hsh has boarded 40 new hires. in addition to the job announcements, our department of human resources currently, hsh, hr has 32 active recruitment that's are in different phases of the recruitment process but all vacant positions have been prioritized by the department. and as always i'm here to answer questions as our members of the team. >> thank you, director. for that, very much comprehensive report and thank you also for considering and answering questions from the commissioners in between time. i'll just open the floor for commissioners for questions or comments. >> thank you, so much director mcfaden. i know we just met two weeks ago and i didn't have high expectations.

i look forward to seeing it in december. i, i did also inquire at the last meeting about the red line eviction of the eviction policy that had been submitted by the pch tenants. and i think at the last meeting, director chan was not present to give an update on that. do we have any updates? >> i think our chief deputy marrian sanders may have an update. >> just briefly. we're still kind of working through the policy to try to figure out, if it's something that will be plausible working with the city attorney trying to, trying to get more information on whether or not the policy, is comprehensive enough, et cetera. so we'll come back to you in december with more information.

>> thank you, i really appreciate it. something that the people that help work on that continue to follow-up with me on a regular basis, i so i want to make sure that i'm following up on their behalf to make sure that we see that process moving forward. thank you. >> thank you. i'm wondering on the eviction data, does it make sense, you mentioned that the property managers handle the evictions but the data was listed by providers. does it make sense to share both the providers names and the property management names? >> you know, it's really up to the property managers to handle evictions. so i think that's, that's what we should publish in the docket for you. >> so the providers don't have a roll in supporting the client through that process? >> right, they're not ultimately responsible. i'm not saying that they don't have a role. i think that, what we give you

is the responsible party. >> okay. so will the data be like presented in a way that we'll see the percentages of evictions by property manager in the future? >> yes. >> yes. >> and similarly, will we be able to see the information about the people that have departs the buildings managed by the property managers that may be like constructive evictions, not legal evictions? >> do you want to answer that. >> thank you, through the chair, emily cohen. i don't think that's going to be possible in the way that we collect the data. so we start today ask for reason to leave but we've only been asking for that for three months, so i'm not sure we have enough data to report. we do have some high stapped adser about destination and where you went that i believe we reported last month. we can provide that again if

that would be helpful. but we need get data to get to this question that you're asking. there is a, because of the property management groups work have various service providers, it won be very clean data wise to match them. so we're going to stick with one property management report. >> thank you, and i did notice when i was reviewing the materials from last time, that it was the charts were only in percentages. and i don't think there were absolute numbers. so i didn't have a sense what the stailz was, thank you, appreciate that. i just have a couple of questions, i know that we have a a pac conference coming and your shelter will be open november 8th which i presume it

will be just in time for the folks displaced by the apac. what is the capacity approximately? >> i'm not sure. >> 30 but the other thing is reinflating, that is going to previeed us with a lot more capacity. in addition, we're looking at some other capacity within our system. so we will have a fully flushed plan in a couple of days. i think that, we, we know that we're going to need more, not just for that but in general we're running into the winter months, and we know there could be a lot of rain this winter. we want to make sure that people have a place to go to the extend that we can add on to our capacity.

>> exactly. i saw that the, safe website was wound down this past week. and a handful of people that i had been in touch w prior to my coming on to this body, did end up exiting to the street again. and, i know that is a particularly different group that work intense in a safe sweep site and did not feel comfortable going into a congregate shelter. many are in the move in process and have move-in dates, they're going to be out in the street for a short period of time, but it was still frustrating to have that closed without them getting that placement in time. >> yeah, i know our staff and our, and teams and our providers have worked really hard to engage with every one and try to get a plan in place. and we've had a lot of success,

but yeah, a few people who, for whom there is going to be a gap. >> thank you, commissioner. vice chair. >> thank you. and thank you for the report. i just want to affirm what the commissioner just shared about, units that republic relin quished so i realize it's difficult to get at this time. but there is a phenomena of folks who are pressed to relinkwish their units.

i appreciate that, that the department recognizes that. i with like to know about that, does that extend to families? it was in the the charts? i made that up just sitting here. >> i think you may have made that up. >> i'll look for it. role for disabilities whether those disabilities are being accommodated. and that is a factor with some families.

so i was just wondering how we, how we address that. >> so i mean, yes, there is a role. and the department is suppose to have disability coordinator. i think we're in the process of hiring that person and don't have that position filled right now. we work very closely with the mayor's office with disability as well as the human rights commission which has a disability access coordinator. i know that they have been very involved work withing specific clients and making sure that those clients are getting the right access. i do think that when we can hire that position, it will make it us a lot more able to support our residents who need, you know, who need accommodations. we do that regularly, but i think that will help a lot. >> great, thank you so much.

commissioner? >> just checking in with commissioner dufty? were you done? >> oh yeah. >> director, first of all i want to thank you so much for all the work that you do and your team and the staff, the level of responsiveness is really extraordinary. some of the stuff that we just asked for two weeks ago is now, fully in this report. i want to acknowledge and personally appreciate not only the level of responsiveness but how much work that is to do. and so, the thought has a occured to me, how can i lighten your load. i was the one that requested

the demographics for, the coordinated, i think it was coordinated entry. i noticed, year over year, the changes are fairly modest, usually on the order one to two percent. unless my commissioners fellow commissioners had an objection, i would be having that annual update just to take off to-do list. but again, very much appreciate how quickly you assembled that information. i appreciate the team doing that. on the waiting list changes, i also wanted to acknowledge, the brainstorming that must have gone on and, thank you for coming up with solutions and implementing them. i guess one night thing.

again great job on that. one question, on the question, two or three questions but they're quick. on the, on the candle stick safe parking site. first question, does those do they exist on their own? >> part of the shelter system. okay. >> and then, you know, i've along with chair butler, we had, visited rv parking spot in the city. so i became curious about what our safe parking spots are and i saw a news report that that particular site, has a high

vacancy rate. is that still the case? >> no it does not have a big vacancy rate but we have a bigger footprint which has been going problem for us. it's actually a good site. you know, it's self contained. we do need to bring in meals because it's pretty far out there. but it's a community and it's people who really appreciate being there in their trailers or cars. >> great. thank you. that's, i think that's something that i'll be interested in going forward just, how we're progressing on the expanding that footprint and getting that power, i'm sure you are too. it now has my curiosity as well. and then, my last request, i know it's just been two weeks.

i mentioned it last time, i just wanted to make sure that it didn't get lost. when we do the vacancy update, if we can show say the last six months, so we can get a general sense of trends. and for the public, the reason i ask is so much of our efforts are dependent on the amount of staff that we had, we recently received, i believe it was you, that told us during the hearing that our out reach was a direct function of how much staff we had available and the staffing shortage that we now have, is negatively impacting our out reach. so, i think that, it's helpful to get an understanding of where we're headed in terms of overall staffing trends and, also helpful for the commission i think. to consider what we might be able to do to help our

department get up to the staffing levels that they want to be and to that end and this is my last comment, i will point again for the public that hsh is looking for a senior analyst so if anybody is interested, a behavioral health clinician and several senior administrative analyst. so any members of the public that are interested in doing this important work for hsh, they are hiring. and with that i con lewd. --conclude. >> thank you. couple of things with regard to 7, black african americans, i know that there is some strategies in place.

really thinking about working with neighborhoods and organizations that serve the community and have that capacity and ability. >> that's right, and just having that communication to the public will be useful at least for my conversation with members with the public. and i agree, i think the commission can help in some way and we have to think of what way we can think of this in terms of the hiring. maybe it's through social media.

and the other thing that i wanted to ensure is that there is so much activities that are going through throughout the day. i don't know if there is a calendar on the website. so just making sure that we as a commission participate in some of these activities that happen throughout the month, i think it's helpful. and just to note, i know commissioner, this we're speaking to the members of the public. so this is not our only job in coming to meetings. but we are, intentionally speaking with members of the public, going to sites and getting more information, so i just wanted to make sure that that is clear. thank you for your report. thank you for the staff that has ensured that this happens and i want to open up to the members of the public to make comments.

>> speaker: hi. i wanted to get a clarification on a number, on subsidy page for program housing. it says 50 here for tgip and i thought i heard you say, one-something and i'm wondering if resent events have changed numbers just for clarity on my end? >> so just wanted to highlight that, you know, and at our discretion to be able to respond to public comment. but i want to open to director, she does have a response to that. >> deputy director cohen can respond.

>> thank you, just for clarification, it's 112 scatter subsidies. 50 are for tgi project and 62 are for community forward. >> thank you. thank you. >> and i know that these reports are fast paced. so we want to clarify some of these things. thank you. >> speaker: good morning, commissioners, i'm liza i'm a community health advocate. i did want to address the disability. for example i can bring you 20. i have a person in post acute care that has a stroke and they're trying to evict him for the last six months. it's a joke. okay, we have some serious issues around this. most are contracts they're in violation of our protective class which is against the law

and is doing harm. so with that said, i find that really disturbing. also these contracts are in 3 tiers, before an eviction, it should be the case manager, the manager onsite and then the property manager. this is used in format, look at your own contract in order to help prevent individuals from being evicted in supportive housing, you are in violation, almost all of those contracts. so i just wanted to bring your attention this intersection of evictions and contracts that are in place, several if not most of these contracts for individuals are under protected class of service. this protective class of service but not limited senior physically and mentally as well as other protects classes of service. currently, the contracts are in violation of creating services due to the lack of proper

management which i've asked for the sunshine task force going on four years. they deny it and it's been ruled in my favor twice. from all sectors from sros all the way to the centers to client center care based on the degree of challenges. this is not happening, which means several of these nonprofits, both private and public are in violation of contracts. please look at the third party contracts, you're getting snowed over for a decade by hsh, the mayor's office of urban and development as well as four contracts through the housing department. i have gone through hud, i have gone to the housing department, i have gone to the sunshine ordinance task force, i have gone--what are you doing for people that have increased since hsh has taken over?

please start paying attention, stop dropping and walking over these dead bodies, we have over 3 deaths on a weekly basis where is the narcanon each of these? thank you for your consideration. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, my pronoun are she, her or they, them. glad we're not cutting services and remote conferences. the need to travel is greatly reduced and you need to talk to other jurisdictions about best practices. promise homeless connect it really worked for me back in 2015 . we need names of support housing managers who are evicted. we need to have a corrective

plan and delve deeper into it. on the budget slate i have update, sb567, i trust her a lot but i know this is fast pace but we need a deeper dive on how it would impact. on the red line, for those commissioners, that are here, this was created by a thoughtful realistic process that was not done carelessly and to westbound safety, the realities of property management, universal best practices already done and preventing evictions for blue hair die and other bull shit that comes in. aoutization emergency services. and we can hardly afford that. i forgot to mention i'm a psa tenant myself. and finally for transgender and

non binary are good. we need to think about the scatter site and the broader community as part of the homelessness response. given that they have high maintenance costs and after the chronicle article, had you to say you had to allocate millions to, to fix this issue. we need to think about a person that may not be successful in the tender lane, may be successfulless where in the city and it creates a situation where i see bunch of assholes, oh harm reduction is does not work. we need to mend it don't end it, and i think we need really need to be focusing on the future and not relying on sros for our future.

that's what is driving the ballooning cost and evictions and more humane solutions are also very cost affective. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comment. this is for public comment, yes if you wish to make public comment for the executive director's report. all right, are there any public members who wish to make public comment, any remote public commenters? >> there are no callers on the queue, chair. >> okay, thank you all for your comments and your questions. we will move to item make sure i'm not for getting anything. item number 9. commissioner evans will present her report followed by any introduction of the three advisory, body candidates. >> the committee held its third

meeting. complete minutes. this is a summary report of items that i like to highlight at the commission. at the past meeting, guerrero and myself were present. our primary task was the consideration of four applicants, for the ls--and hc. as a remindr of application for any of these bodies are now available on the web page. we appreciate your efforts including the commissioners, as well as the members of the public to help recruit candidates to fill these vacant seats. the the six vacant seats and does not have qualmer for their meeting. criteria for all positions, seats 3 through 11 should be held by people serving homeless population nz san francisco. the nomination committee interviewed and made the

unanimous recommendation for mercedes bull ox which is before you. seat one is a person who is homeless or formerly homeless and has lived with a homeless child under the age of 18. seat 5 is a person nominated by one or more community agency to see provide behavioral health or other service to see homeless people and seat 12 is an employee of the department health. the nomination committee interviewed and made the unanimous nomination, that angela david be confirmed for seat 12 receiving a letter from her department head, that there is no conflict with the department statement of incompatible activities in the shelter of grievance, has five vacant seats. the criteria for the open seats

are as follows, seats 2 and 4 are previous consumers of city temporary shelter services. seat 10 is a person serving as shelter of grievance under the sherlt of grievance. seat 13 and this be to be appointed by the direct of public health. seats 6 and 7 is a person who represents organizations or--nomination interviewed and made unanimous recommendation for azeen who's application is before you be confirmed for seat 6. looks like there is a little typo in here. >> just a little one. our commission believes that the three candidate meet the criteria for the position that they applied. and we thank you for considering this candidates. >> thank you commissioner evans

for the wonderful work and this is great progress. and either angela mercedes or azeen, if you are present, and would like to make comments, please do so at this time. ziaelrahimi, think of abraham, and sia is the light, it's the time that abraham got woke. >> thank you for that. >> and thank you for the acknowledgment at the beginning to all the things. silence hurts and i was looking for a tissue so i really

appreciate that. i just want to know how to find when the meetings are and what the agenda items are and you know. learn a little bit about decorium. >> okay. >> so somebody send me an email so i have access to all of that. >> thank you very much. >> thank you all very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> hi, everybody i'm mercedes bullock. i'm born and raised in san francisco and i know this is pie as but i don't believe there is a greater city and more invait --innovative.

i'm commit today a dressing the root causes of homelessness and also collaborating with fellow members to make tangble changes to our city. i want to thank everybody. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> angela david present? yes. thank you. >> hello, i'm angie david. and i'm honored to be standing in front of all of you. i have worked with our population of folks that don't have a home for about 18 years. and i stand here as passionate today as when i started. i have a lot of experience. working with the shelter system, i previously also held a position as a staffer for shelter monitoring committee.

and so, i feel that i have definitely the qualifications that it take to hold the position and be respectful to department of public health in this seat. any questions for me? >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioners i want to open up for questions or comments that you may have. >> can i make a motion that we approve the recommendations. >> we're going to get there, thank you. and i cannot wait to get there either but we want to open up for comments for commissioners and allow the public could make comments. >> yeah, i just want to say, several of the candidates mentioned that they were honored to be here before us and honored to do this work. i just wanted to say right back at you 10,000 percent. we're honored to have you, honored to have your engagement

and honored to have you do this work. words can't express how deeply, appreciative i am personally and how meaningful it can be to participate in the city and help as one of the candidates try to make things better. i also agree with the candidate that this is the absolutely the best city. so, i'm totally aligned with that. but, no matter how good we are, this is how we get better and this work is hard, difficult work. and really the only people willing to do it are the people that are really committed to making things better and doing that difficult work. honored to have you before us.

>> commissioner can maybe in one sentence, discuss what each of these committees would be responsible for? very quickly, thank you. >> absolutely. and i'm happy to provide you for our nominating committee, we actually have a document that gives a overview and description of what each body does in preparation for making these recommendations, i also reviewed the, legislation that created the shelter monitoring committee and the shelter grievance committee. both of those, before my time, the shelter monitoring committee, does site visits at the shelters and they, do an evaluation of what is called the standard of care. what they do is they look at criteria that the board of

supervisors laid out as minimum requirement for our shelters and ensure that the shelter is meeting the criteria. so that includes things like training, hot water, food and so on. the shelter grievance is like lie due process for its, since people do not have tenants rights in the shelter system but often they are, they have been long term residents of the shelter system. what, the shelter grievance is like a process by which people can appeal what is called a denial of service at the shelter. and then the local coordinator, the director may have more context but it's my understanding that it is an requirement of hud funding to have this body and i'll let you elaborate. >> that's right, it's a requirement of hud funding. we are the continuum of care for our area and it's required for us to have an oversight

body that overseas the coc funds and the c o.c. process. as we mentioned last meeting, that, that the lacb just approved a number of contracts that are going forward with c o.c. funds and that's their main role but they also do some other things that they're interested in doing. they have a couple of committees, because they're also focused on c o.c.s on the c o.c. dollars they're also very interested in coordinated entry which some version is required by hud. so they're part of the committee that is working with, deputy director to improve that process and they, they have some other sub committees that do work that is of interest of them in particular as a c o.c. >> thank you.

>> and i was exhaustive in my description but i'll make sure that you have more description. >> may i make a motion. >> before we make a motion, i want to open it up pot public to make comments. absolutely. >> we need to vote for these candidates. >> good morning, joertd an davis, she, her, i support the nomination of these individuals but i am a former member of advisory committee that did work, that really intersects with hsh. and i think some lessons that i learned that i would like to impart during this public session, is never be afraid to be bold.

even though you're advisory body and you cannot make buying policy, that does not mean that you cannot make an impact and push the envelope to get justice for those who are most impacted. and i just, i just really think it's important to be proactive, don't just, don't just sit there and collect things. and lastly, i want to say on the los angeles, despite my constant stretching, i do love this city. don't be afraid, if you think that's good idea that's been operationalize, don't be afraid to push for that. i've done that before. and i think the city can be, we claim to be, sometimes we claim to be a global city but we don't always, implement the best ideas that are just down

the road. i feel that we can break that cycle. and what i want to say is do your best and show, show that advisory committees can really shine. so thank you. >> words of wisdom from jordan, we appreciate it. >> hello good morning, my name is javier and, javier vermont i'm a san francisco resident. and i'm here today to just, to thank you and show my support for mercedes bullock who is on the lacb, i cannot think of a better person, through the love of san francisco and the people in it, is willing to show that love by holding it accountable. especially when it comes to programs that affect people who are, in circumstances like that require a lot of support. so, yeah. i look forward to seeing

mercedes shine on this board and i just want to say congratulations and thank you to the commission. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, commission. i'm julian i'm with the coalition on homelessness. and yeah, i'm here to show my support for mercedes. i've worked with her for a long time now and she is one of the most hard working, passionate and dedicated teammates that we have. and so i know that, you know, she can provide a lot for the city, and is a really great person to work with. so thank you for your time and yeah. enjoy the rest of your day. >> thank you. >> speaker: hi, commission i'm stony. i worked personally, i believe

over 9 months under azeen and she is one of the best people you can have in the room and one of the best that you can have in your side. she listens and takes in everything and always stands up for what she believes in. and i would trust nobody more to fill her position that she is nominated for. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, family campus sevensers not to pile on but i just wanted to offer that working with a mercedes is a real pleasure, she is very wise and kind and i'm excited about this nomination. so thank you. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, commissioners i'm juan a ramos and i work with the coalition on homelessness and i'm here to

support my colleague mercedes bullock, i have a few words to say, i feel she would make a good candidate on your team and she would make your office shine. and i want to show you how hard working she is and a dedicated person. last week or two weeks or so, we were doing a few assessments with families and i kid you not, i seen her busting her butt, but yes, i just wanted say that she would make a good candidate on your team and, i hope to see her in your office and see you guys thrive and listen to all the great ideas that she does have. thank you for your time. >> thank you, thank you. any remote public commenters? >> there are no callers on the

queue. >> is there a motion to approve angela for seat 12? >> so do i make a caveat. >> through the chair, since angela david is city employee, to basically say if you try to take on a secondary employment or volunteer work that may be accessive, you have to get approval from your director, her supervisor checked the wrong box, one of those mistakes with a double negative. so i would recommend approval and subject to angela providing a revised version to the commission secretary. it sounds like her supervisor is super apologetic but not the work is not incompatible with the current work of employment. >> thank you. >> so the motion is, please support angela david for seat

12 of seat, i just want to make sure, 6, of the shelter monitoring committee contingent on the receipt of a revised check box. letter. >> second. >> second. >> seconded can you please call the roll. >> commissioner respond with aye or nay. chair butler. >> aye. >> vice chair. >> aye. >> commissioner evans. >> aye. >> commissioner laguilia. >> aye. >> commissioner williams. >> aye. >> maybe they can consider a resolution to remove the double negative box. round of applause. >> thank you. >> glazesing angela david on your now seat in the shelter monitoring committee.

is there a motion to approve mercedes to the local coordinator seat 6. >> so moved. >> second. >> as our secretary please call the vote. >> chair butler. >> aye. >> vice chair. >> aye. >> commissioner evans. >> aye. commissioner lagualia. >> aye. >> is there a motion to approve azeen i'll get that better as we learn about each other. >> so moved. >> second. >> chair butler. >> aye. >> vice chair. >> aye. >> commissioner evan. >> aye. >> commissioner glagualia. >> aye. >> commissioner williams. >> aye. >> there is room that is never filled, that is room for

improvement but we're filling the room as your efforts to end homelessness. this places us on item 10, data officer report present bid our commissioner lguana. i had a cold and deputy also was occupied. so we have not have no update but at our next meeting, plan to provide a significant but not too time consuming report. >> thank you so much. any comments from our commissioners or questions? i'll open up to public comment on this agenda item? any member of the public wish to make comments on this public comment?

>> no callers on the queue. >> okay, this places us on our item 11 general public comment. the agenda item will not exceed 15 minutes. and i see that there are many who wish to make public comments. so each person will have two minutes for their comments and we will be strict in our time frame. so please keep your comments as concise as possible. i know there are those that may need some translation and time so we'll make that call as we see fit. >> speaker: hello good morning, again.

i'm hannah ramos, good morning, commissioners. i'm a peer organizer with the coalition on homelessness. i reside in district 9 and currently work in district 8. currently dozen of households living in rvs on winston and buckingham who are placing displacement on december 19th when the new four-hour parking restriction right side set to go in affect. these households including families, students and seniors deserve dignity and safety. implementing the parking restrictions without first providing a safe parking site and access to permanent housing, will push them deeper into instability and homelessness. this commission is to hold hsh accountable to support these families by opening a safe parking site and providing household with housing options that they find appropriate and accommodating. on october 24, 2023, there will a press conference held at

winston drive and buckingham way, somebody said, i live here because i cannot pay rent. she is a mother of two and resides in her rv and also added i have two children, if they take us out of here, i'll have to live in my car with my children and sometimes i don't have money to buy milk for my son because i have no way to live here. since they were implementing, hsh must act to support the households in rv and prevent displacement and street homelessness. we're celebrating that some of the households have been connected with appropriate resources but they are many households still in the process of referrals and who have not been contacted at all. if the families in rvs do not have a safe parking site or housing before the parking

restrictions are implemented in december 19th, they will be at-risk of falling deeper into homelessness. many will be unable to move their vehicles ever four hours because of work and family commitments. so they will accumulate tickets and possibly be towed. please do not overlook these families and college students and children and people with disabilities. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> also i'll be doing translation so you'll hear a lot of me. >> speaker: muy buenas tardes. [speaking spanish] [speaking

spanish] gracias >> translator: so i'm going to translate everything he said in a summary.

he said good morning commissioners my name is christian dejesus, he currently lives resides in one of the rv he has two children and he's pleading for help and for you guys to hear him out. he's not the only one that lives there, there is multiple people who came to support but he do have two children one of 8 and one of 6 during the winters, i'm sure you know that it gets pretty cold. but most of us have a home, that has heating, a heating system in there so luckily for us we're warmed up. but them, they have to suffer through the cold nights and double up. so to hear a 6-year-old, sorry if i cry, i'm an emotional person to hear a 6-year-old and 8-year-old having to go through that while he's trying to support the whole family and take them to school and do what he has to do as a father, it talks a lot.

and it could affect him physically and mentally. for them their rv is everything. so he's here pleading not just for himself but everybody here who lives and resides in buckingham way to please hear them out and hopefully this touches your heart and you can some way, again, help in some form and take this information and please do something about it. this is another way to prevent homelessness. let's not add to it. thank you for your time and i'll have the next person come.

>> speaker: buenos dias soy janilett. >> translator: i'm here present today to ask for help. i live in a rv. and we are four people in there. it's been difficult because i am now disabled currently i had an accident 5 months ago. it's sometimes difficult because when we have to move, the car, sometimes it gets damaged. and when it's very hot outside, and the sun is beaming, it's twice hotter inside the rv.

and same thing when it's cold, it's twice colder in the rv. so i'm here today asking for your help. if you guys can help me find housing and if not, to please provide safe parking before december 19th. >> i have two years living in the trailer. >> speaker: [speaking spanish] >> translator: it's been hard examine difficult and not just i that needs assistance everybody in my community does. maybe today you can help some

by hearing us out today. >> speaker: [speaking spanish] >> translator: another bad thing when it's hot inside we have to open our doors just to get some air but the result of that is having insects and we get eaten up by the insects. >> speaker: [speaking spanish] >> translator: so i'm here again, once asking you for help and i just want to say may god bless you all and hopefully, can support us somehow.

>> speaker: buenos dias [speaking spanishes] >> translator: my name is marchlon. i'm here today asking you guys for either housing or safe parking. we're here asking you for your support because we don't have

the resources economically. >> so currently, i do not have a stable job enough to be able to pay for a housing to stay. >> speaker: [speaking spanish] >> translator: we hope to get positive support from you guys. thank you for your time and may god bless you all. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, i

live in trailer, have been living there for almost 15 months from last year. the same situation as every one, we need any kind of solution about, housing things like that. so, my situation is i live in a trailer, i don't have the bathroom is no good and the trailer is not working fine, so i cannot move the trailer. so take a shower, i have to go to the bathroom, i have to do it in a close, in a near by gym what's the name of it, there is more close. but, anyway. i'm working but it's not enough you know, to pay a rent.

i like san francisco but it's expensive. so yeah, sometimes people tell me no, go to the shelter but i have been in the shelter before and i know how is to be. i prefer to be in my trailer, because it's more, it's especially if you work, the whole day. thank you for the help that you are bringing us and we hope, i hope that we can solve this situation soon. in my case, i may have to, move the next week because they will start next week working in the street. so as i say, i don't know how to move my motor home, because it's broken.

but i will try to do. thank you for letting me share everything here. have a good day. thank you. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, i'm policy manager for glide. as you heard, there are many families students, seniors, people with disabilities who cannot afford the bay area's high rent and living in rvs on winston drive and buck ham way near lake merced. the community has been there several years. some residents have been there for five years. many of the families are struggling to make ends meet. they're also students and seniors living in rvs who

cannot afford rents anywhere else. many members of the community are mono lingual or spanish speaker including access to this meeting actually. over the years, the community has asked for simple resources such as gray water and trash disposal. they've also asked for a safe parking site. the city has not fulfilled these requests. now this community is facing the threat of four-hour parking restriction nz december which will require them to leave school or work to regularly move their vehicles or face ticketing or possibly towing. implementing the new parking restrictions without anywhere else to go, will push these families deeper into homelessness. wore grateful that hsh has been work to go house these families but a significant portion of households have not yet been housed.

and for those who have not been placed yet. having a site secure will also include leverage to buy more time before the parking restrictions are implemented. as commissioners, you can discuss this issue with hsh staff and agendize this item to hear reports back and ask questions and urge actions. there are hundreds of homeless families in san francisco desperately waiting for housing, it does not make sense to displace these families the. will avoid the hout come sxz provide the families can the dignity and stability that they deserve. thank you. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, commissioner and director. hope from family services, i believe we're hosting you some of you at the housing provider network next week and i'm excited to chat with you more then.

i'm here to reiterate the urgency that we're feeling, opening a parking site. the imagine family response system is over saturate asked facing restrictions at the direction of mayor breed. anecdotely, clients living in rvs especially those undocumented and in turn face barriers to increasing their income significantly over the course of subsidy. underably hesitant to give up the life life of this rv which this would ask them to do. compass agrees that family living in an rv is not ideal or long term solution. the long term offers is cruel. the family shelter wait list which topped 200 families in october will just grow. we're grateful to hsh for their

work to locate a safe solution to this issue and we thank you all for your attention. >> thank you. >> speaker: good morning, again, it's jordan davis, on the whole mer sayedsing situation, we need to have constructive solutions. these four hour restrictions created by seems to be so powerful yet unelected, it's just bull shit we need real solutions especially since there was college students that homeless. i was able to live in a dorm in college but a lot are not able to. one thing i want to speak on we got this routine piece of mail, in the tenderloin housing clinic where i prefer mr. jordan davis. what the hell?

my pronouns are she-her or they them, and this is completely inappropriate. it's also completely inappropriate to put this on there. thc which is your bigger problem contractors is misbehaving itself. i want to reiterate my support for advisory committee. we have shelter grievance, we have shelter monitor committee but something very like but then of course when you go from shelter to housing, you don't have advisory body and where i had a lot of was set up to fail. i feel like we need to do this and i know, there is going to be a conversation about cost and like, especially in these budget times. but i think this is something that can be done. it's something that should be done and it should be operationalized so thank you. >> thank you.

>> speaker: good morning, commissioner i'm with safe and sound i'm here on behalf of the family resource alliance and the 40 organizations that we represent which serves up to 40,000 people in the city. i'm here and i want to align my comment wz my colleagues from compass and from glide will the rv situation. i hope that every one realizes the unique situation families find themselves living in rvs. i just want to ask that, your work ensures that hsh secures a safe parking site for people who are not being prioritized for housing. and for those who have not been placed. there are hundreds of families homeless in san francisco desperately waiting for shelter and housing.

especially around trying to get folks into housing, definitely. we just urge hsh and mt a to

get folks housed and to find a site where they can safely park so they can have housing and the basic digity that they deserve. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> speaker: hello i'm flow kelly and i volunteer with the coalition of homelessness and i've been part of stop tows for years. as we know it's bert to be an rv than the sidewalk. there are many folks who have told me their stories that they did an rv or they'll say, see across the street, that used to be my rv. and then they got towed and they were not able to get it back, this was before mta gave

any waivers. and there they are on the street. this should not happen to anyone. and, we've been actually meeting with supervisor milgaard in shsing and they came to the campus of sf state university and met with folks who are living in their rvs and asking okay what would you like, a safe parking spot or homelessness? supportive home? and it seems like, we were moving forward and we had two years, you know to try to figure it out.

supervisor asked for that to happen in response to her neighbors that are giving her a hard time. so we're here in support for those in nr rvs that would like to have a place to park and it does not have to have fancy things. if they can know that they can be there without having to move. >> thank you. >> i didn't come here to speak but i felt very compelled to speak. i really just want to emphasize, that we everybody sfmt a, hsh everybody worked hard to find a solution. whoever said this manufactured crisis by this timeline, we need to avoid.

these families, these folks living in the rvs need a solution that is workable. we just need to figure this out. and i think we can and i'm sure folks have been working super hard so i'm. >> thank you. >> listening to the whole room and, and straddling two different projects with one and one hch, this is a rhetorical question and almost a suggestion.

what is the coordination between hsh and ocd? is there anything collectively happening there? 'cause, it feels like the same conversation in separate rooms. and i, i feel like the intent is the same but with different bureaucratic parameters and i would like to see a little bit of, yeah. brainstorming with that. >> thank you. thank you. >> i have a student so a lost kids are often in that area. and it's on going crisis there for a long time. and i think at minimum we should at least try to model

bay view and get a safe parking site, aoep without the utilities, they need a safe place to live and the children need to have space to go to the hall. you think at minimum a safe parking site is ideal. >> thank you. >> speaker: hello, again it's me julian with the coalition. i just want to reaffirm everything that my colleagues have said. as we already know, december 19th is coming up and many people are depending on hsh to help find the safe site. i just want to remind every one that the ramifications of this decision is not just unfortunate situation here in san francisco but it's a whole world and livelihood for somebody that is at stake. i know that we have the tools

to make this work, let's do it. >> thank you. >> speaker: heli i'm a policy and i'm shaoeba, i'm here in support for the families that live in rvs. there is a lot of families as you heard with children and seniors and people living with disabilities who have found a community there. and currently stablelized and owned or rented rvs. as a commission, you know that stock ising hard and hard to access. emergency, the mono lingual community. we acknowledge that they did not implement these parking restrictions but they have been

working with this community for two years and still have not been able to house all the families that are seeking housing or find a safe parking site that meets their needs. there is a lot of factors to consider here as the day approaches. one people who to not know how to navigate the response system, which lacks language access. the ticketing and towing of these homes will increase their chances of being housing insecure especially in the cold months of winter. and homelessness, does impact the quality of life and overall well being of the person especially children, marginized people, people living with disabilities, people living with chronic illness, the folks on drive. i urge that you provide options to these families so they don't have to face the street homelessness.

please do not overlook these families. i strongly urge this commission to hold hsh accountable in finding options that meets their needs. thank you. >> thank you. >> hello my name is susan, ummmm a retired nurse and a 23-year resident of d-5 and first of all, thank you for your service. i just want to explain what happens in these situations in case you don't already know. forgive me if i'm telling you something you already know. when people don't have a place to park, they get tickets. and although, thanks to a lawsuit, they can no longer be towed merely for unpaid parking tickets. they cannot renew their registrations. when they get towed, they lose their home and everything in it. so there are 100 people living

who are at-risk of becoming homeless once these parking restrictions go into affect. so what is really important for smta and hsh to work together to find a safe site or postpone the implementation of these restrictions. now when you prevent, it's like public health, it does not show up in the da taxer you dont see how many peopleless people you did prevent just like you didn't see how many cases of polio you prevented with vaccines but still absolutely critical component of dealing with homelessness. those sfm hearing where somebody from hsh was asked if these increase homelessness and she said no, because these people are already considered homeless, the people who live in their rvs. so it wouldn't show up in the data! but i can tell you, there is a

big difference between sleeping in rv and sleeping on the street. so i really urge you to make sure that these parking restrictions do not go into affect until there is an alternative or you'll be looking at 1100 people who will inevitable be sleeping on the streets. thank you for your service. >> thank you for your comments. we hear you and we'll move forward with what we can do. >> there is a caller on the queue. >> okay, we'll hear from a member of the public who is dialing in remotely. jaou, a community manager at glie.d i'm also calling in about the households living on rv in winston who are facing

displacement on december 15th and i'm calling to support the parking site. i went down winston last week and i counted 41rvs and i just yesterday, talked to one person who was really grateful because they've goent a housing voucher but he was really struggling to actually find an apartment that they can afford with it. and i talked to another person this morning who is trying to get problem solving because of serious health issues that lead to his rv breaking down and he was trying to be reunited with his family. and i also talked to a lot of people who have not started the process of being connected with services at all. my point is there are people on winston and buckingham in all stages trying to increase their own stability. but we have this, manufacture

design, manufacture cries with six weeks before parking restrictions go into affect in winston. and the next time, this board meets, there will be just nine days left until the parking restrictions go into affect. so there really is not anytime at all, before, this community is potentially displaced. and right now, our community who can regularly be reached, art displacement instead of being given a place to go, that will be a huge missed opportunity and we'll put a lot of people at-risk of falling deeper into homeleness. so i also wanted say, that i was watching the director's report and happy to see the report about oasis. it gives me a lot of hope on the what the work is doing.

the and so hearing those updates makes me believe that it's possible to open a parking site. thank you. >> thank you for your comment. >> there is another caller on the queue. >> go ahead, caller, we hear you. >> speaker: hi commissioners this is maner' and i'm co-chair of hesba, we're extremely worried about the families living along winston boulevard who will be displaced on december 19th when the restrictions go into affect. it will be a huge burden for these families to move their vehicles every four hours, accumulating parking tickets or being towed will push these families further into poverty in addition to facing cold and rainy weather. falling into street homelessness. please provide a safe parking

site before december 19th so these families have time to be assessed and offered adequate and dignified housing. thanks. >> thank you. any other callers? >> there are no more callers, chair. >> thank you, thank you again for first of all i really like to thank the public for coming. i know there are barriers into doing that, but your voice has been heard so that's important. thank you for that. at this time we'll move to item 12 which is old business and we don't have old business. so we'll go ahead and move to item 13 before we ask, let's see, mecca before she comes, we'll have a break, a five-minute break and then. and you can get set up. we'll break for five minutes. >> before we go to the next item, i just wanted to say to

the public, [speaking spanish] >> can i ask mr. president, could we reopen, also i know we can't have a discussion on public comment which has concluded but could we reopen the director's report because i know there is work happening with the director and staff had been leading to try and address this. so we reopen the director's report for that purpose? the question is can we reopen the director's report and gift director on aunt to update the commissioners on this? this is something that has been the director and staff is working on. >> she has previously addressed this rv resolution in a prior

director's report and it was not itemized in this one. but it falls under shelter updates. >> thank you.

>> member of this commission and individual, i do plan to go to the mt a meeting next tuesday and i will speak and reflect on the comments and testimony that we receive today. and that's what i'm able to do under the rules of order, so i look forward to seeing some of you there. thank you. >> thank you. vice chair. >> we will now move to item number 13.

shelter overview and deeper dive presented by hsh director. mecca, please pronounce your last name. >> yes, chair butler, mecca cannariato. and this is informal only so it will not require a vote from the commission. we look forward to your presentation. >> thank you, my name is mecca, i use she-her pronouns i am the director of temporary shelter. i've been asked to come do a presentation for you all. next slide. so when we think about the shelter system, next slide. one of the way that's we think

about the shelter system is a focus area. we have transitional youth system and the family system. for capacity, for the adult system, we just about 2500 beds for the use youth system, it's just under 300. and for the family system, we have over 300 beds. for the focus area there will be some duplication that you'll see. fraex, you'll see navigation center for adult and youth for the family system, you'll see transitional housing, as well as for the youth system. next slide. all right. so look at the short, the shelter portfolio, in relation to the budget. for fiscal year 22-23 the average cost per bed per night was 122.

the family system -- ~>> excuse me. i hate to interrupt you, members of the public if you wish to speak please, take it outside so that others around you can hear. >> thank you. ?u. please proceed. >> thank you. so again just looking at the budget overview cost per bed for the en shire system for the adults, 122, for the family system is $164 and for the stay system it's $124 per night. and then the team does a lot to ensure that the performance measures are, reviewed and supporting to the best of our abilities. one of the way is that we do that is through an performance program monitor that we do for each of the sites. program monitoring, includes bed capacity review of client

case files to ensure there is continuity of care and staff development and training, policy and procedure compliance, guest satisfaction, physical accessibility and humidity and service and outcome objectives. next slide, all right so there are various way that people can access the shelter system. for adults, includes calling sf hotline and getting routed via 311 to get a shelter reservation with a live serve. and you can make a shelter resifsh on the hsh website and you can make a reservation there. and the healthy streets operation center. the homeless out reach team, street crisis response teams, as well as hospital discharge.

in addition, we support cap with direct shelter placement. for families with children, we do shelter referrals through the family access point. there is also a hotel voucher call line. and there is self refehr al through the hamilton pregnant program. we also run shelter referral, and we work with key central placement partners including the homeless youth alliance and homeless out reach team. for minors, direct self referral through huckle berry and diamond youth shelters. next slide, perfect, thank you. so, some of the ways in which we are retrieving our strategic goals as outlined and home by the way, a report shelter directly contribute to our

ability to achieve our goals in various ways. one goal is by decreasing homelessness, so reducing the number of people who are unshement erred by 50% is one of our goals and reducing the total number of people experiencing homelessness by 15%. next goal, sorry. i think you went too far ahead. there go, for goal number 21 reducing inequity and other disparities and racial inequalities and other disparities for people experiencing homelessness. and the last goal is to actively supporting 30,000 to move on from homelessness into permanent housing fm those are the three goals directly directed to our shelter system. next slide.

all right for the adult system this is an outline that shows you some of the intervention that we have with the system of care. so we have emergency shelter, navigation center, crisis intervention programs, winter shelter, we discussed today. shelter overflow, drop in centers. for the next, for the next focus area include emergency shelter, navigation centers, transitional housing and urgent accommodation vouchers. and for the family system, there is emergency shelter, transitional housing and urgent accommodation vouchers as well. on this next slide, you will see a list of our provider community which this work would not be possible.

so for the adult system you can see a list of providers there, family and youth, specific call out would be dolores street providing support for the adult shelter system as well as the family shelter system. next slide. all right, and for shelter data, we wanted to give you an overview that of the 7,000 unique guests that we had, in terms of our analysis of the data, we had almost 3000 exits that went through various parts of our system in terms of intervention. so you'll see for temporary housing, we had about 20 percent. permanent housing was about 13% and we had other interventions including housing voucher, connections to families, institutional situations could

be looking at institutional care substance use services and then other homeless situations. next slide. our demographic data, was helpful to review and it gives us an overview of how clients are self reporting. their identity to the system of care. so, if you take a look at the folks that are accessing the system the most, we have caucasian individuals that are identifying as non hispanic also identifying almost 90% as heterosexual and male at almost 70, 65 percent or so. so we also have, some other additional call outs which are, he we have 34 percent african-american folks accessing the system of care,

70 percent non hispanic in addition, we have 6% identifying as gay or lesbian, 5% bisexual. we do want to acknowledge that the data not connected or refused was for about 20% of the guest so we think that for sexual orientation there is under reporting. we have 30% of female identified clients identifying the system 2 percent transgender, 1 percent single gender loving. et cetera, gives you an overview of how clients are identifying in our system of care. advancing racial equity is important. to ensure that racial equity is front and center. some of the ways in which the

shelter team is really focused on advancing racial equity is ensuring that there is a presentation at hsh monthly temporary shelter provider meetings. in addition, we're spending a lot of time focusing on doors such atz bay view hunters district and mission district. and success story, we have a really nice story. and access the homeless response system and during that experience really had an opportunity to experience help for connecting and future with different service providers and moving forward so really nice

illustration for you to review. next slide. so looking at some challenges to scale, some of that includes funding insides, funding and identification of new sites, got for new shelter program. another challenge is community support for new shelter programs. in addition ensuring that people are moving as quickly as possible from the temporary shelter system into permanent housing to ensure that there is system flow. there is some identified solutions that we can think through, one is advocating for dedicated state resources for shelter and enhancing good neighbor policies within the shelter contracts. and ensuring that there is additional case management resorts sources to support clients ability to move into

permanent supportive housing. thank you. >> thank you. >> so i'll be happy to take any questions, there are some slides that provides how many beds we have per provider where the addresses for the adult, and youth and family system that you can take a look at. >> thank you so much. certainly, very concise and comprehensive. i appreciate that, and i'll open up to commissioner for comments. >> just a quick question for me, apologies for jumping ahead, one of these days, we'll get the buttons. on slide 10, fiscal year 22-23 serves 7227 unique guests had 2094 exhibits.

so there is 4320--sorry do the math, 4233 people still in the shelters from fiscal year 2-23? >> yes. our system is pretty full. we're at 92% occupancy across the entire portfolio. >> and of the exits, it looks approximately, there is two colors here but it's unclear what the colors are referencing. >> yes, sorry, the light blue is 22, the dark blue is 23. >> okay. so half our other, is unknown? or is other can you characterize what other is? >> it's mixed, it could mean the client didn't report back to the system, it could be other interventions, relocation, other support, so it just kind of, it was more of

a bucket of, not having them the information and having additional information. being on the streets, just want to make sure i understand that. and then, do we have any sensor do we longitudinal tracking overtime? you know, for instance, we can see that 11 percent went to housing solutions. do we have a sense of success rate? how many outcome similar to the success story that you had with antonia? do we have a sense of what our long term success rate look likes? or by year?

you're familiar with in in healthcare we'll talk about five-year survival rate, a way of saying this is the ethicacy over a length of time. survival rate, maybe not the most elegant term. say from fiscal year, 2020 or 2018, this is how many of the people are still in this portion of the system. i don't know if we have visibility into that or not and i see deputy director stepped up, so if, i'm it's just coming from a place of curiosity, that's all.

>> those are good questions. so we track outcomes from shelter insofar, as people who are experiencing homelessness or participating in shelter will let a provider know where they've exited to. so for example, if we're working with them and our coordinator to exit placement, we'll know that we will have an exit data destination and there is a number of destination that people can exit to, that data for shelter is variable because people leave without an exit. they may have exited to a positive destination but they're not leaving that data behind. in terms of long term tracking, what happens to that client participating in smelter, after they've exited, they don't track any long term, because in long term, interaction with the client because they don't have that interaction anymore.

so if that person has now enrolled in will thes say, permanent housing program, that person can be tracked in that program and there are outcomes for that how long they stay. we do look at stayers and leavers for programs has kind of a standard. but in terms of tracking somebody through the system and ethicacy over the years, that would be sort of a research, we have to have a research mythology to do that and we are unable to track people through our system that way. one system that looks through that is the v.a.., v.a.. medical center data but we have very few clients in that data. >> okay, again, i wasn't, seeking to add to your already extensive to do pile, just curious what we already had that may just be lying around. >> we can certainly provide

more exit data that is in this particular presentation, but it will be standards, the standards that that we collect now. >> thank you so much. >> vice chair. >> thank you. mecca, thank you sorry. on slide 14, it says, enhancing good neighbor policies within shelter contracts. and i wonder if you can talk a little bit more about that? >> yes, we can. thank you for the question. so, all of our contracts are have they don't necessarily have metrics, they don't necessarily have reporting requirement associated with them. so we're in the process of enhancing across all of our procurements, the good neighbor policies in both supportive and housing and shelter.

to help ensure that these resources are assets in the neighborhood, that the site managers and non profits are partners to the community. and are active participating in make ing the community the best place it can be. reface a lot of resistance as we go out and site new projects. and i think one of the way that's we can, garner more support from the general public is to demonstrate that our project are not blight, they're not any of the derogatory terms that we here in the community meetings about homeless sites. that they can bring the activate space. they bring people in, and those facts that are operating it, can be a benefit to the bhoel community. so we are, really doubling done on our expectations of providers through the contracting mechanism to ensure that we're pick up garbage,

we're reporting things of concern, we're calling 31, if we see graffiti that we're an active part of the community. >> so when we started as commissioners, we had the opportunity to list some things that we hope to see or focus on and, i department think that this is a very important area. and this morning, we had an employee of hsh come and be recognized and i do think that something we could do maybe not every meeting, but i think to bring forward, shelters that have good relationships with their neighborhood, and you need those positive examples. because unfortunately, people do see the negative and that will stick with them. i think there are organization that's have the trust and support of their neighborhood and i think that showing some of that just having a brief get

together and saying, hey, this program has done a great job. they've been active in building community and such. i think would be worth while. so, so, you know, i'll chat with the director about that. separately. and then, you might be able to answer this, but i interacted with somebody in our family system and she a spanish speaker. and she was asked to sign a warning that was given, i thought was unfair warning but a warning given. and she refused to sign it because it was not translated into spanish. so i know that there are city language access responsibilities and i guess i would like to know if somebody is experiencing, what i feel is harassment to sign something that they don't understand, what redress exist and what can we do about that.

>> we ask the providers to use the language line so there will be realtime interpretation. >> phone number? >> the language line? i don't have it memorized but i can get it to the commission secretary so you have it. and yeah, that offers realtime translation if there is not somebody on the team that can support the translation needs. ideally, the notice should have been translated in spanish and then reviewed again to make sure it was accurate so that they can read it in her primary language. >> so would as a director come to you and say, i've seen this form it's not available and take it from there? >> yeah. >> thank you so much. >> yeah. >> you're good. >> yes. >> regarding the community engagement which i agree with vice chair, these are very important. can you also put in a mechanism

that the community outside of the shelter and home can also provide input? so it's not just one-sided and also the neighborhood people can also basically talk about how the conditions are and what is improved? thank you. one of the things that we started about two years ago, is in the areas where we have particular controversy with opening a new shelter or supportive housing starting neighborhood working groups. so we engage local businesses, local housed and unhoused neighborhood and usually myself or somebody from my team. and we meet regularly to hear questions or concerns that are coming up. and because our partnership is contract is with the provider, i cannot obligate our house neighbors to participate but they're obligated to

participate in these working groups and they've been instrumental in building trust, addressing issues right away, i can bring in public works. i bring in sfpd, we use these as an opportunity to ensure that the city resources are at the table with the neighbors and it is one of the way that's hosting a shelter can actually be really beneficial to your neighborhood, because you're now starting to get attention from a lot of other departments, because i'm banging on the door and making them to come to this meeting. and it's been a positive step towards building that trust with community, we probably have five or six of these going on at any one time at different neighborhoods across the city. >> thank you. thank you. i have a very quick question, what are cabins? >> tiny cabins are like tiny little homes. >> and we have them in san francisco. >> yes, we do. >> goth street.

33 goth. >> okay, i'm going to check it out. >> we're very innovative here. >> yes. >> vice chair. >> i apologize, i pore got to bring this issue up, an example is castro youth program, it marks my time, but almost 20 years ago, i worked with larkinstreet to start the castro young program. and just to share with commissioners, you know, this was in one of two residential hotels in the castro. so people have a room, they have a door, they have a shared bathroom, but, it's listed in the shelter bucket. and so i'm just wondering, are we looking at transitional housing as a distinct intervention for youth and families, even though it's on this shelter bucket on this chart? >> i think of transitional housing as temporary shelter beinger it's not a permanent,

it does not usually have a lease attached to it. so in terms of the way that i think about it, i think about it a longer term but still a temporary intervention. >> yeah, it's just the language of shelter seems different because, it in this case, i see what you have -- ~>> you have a room which is pretty good. people are happy to have that. it seems different from shelter. >> some of our shelters are non congregate, the baldwin is not congregate. >> i guess i just wonder about the definition, maybe it deserves its own category in a way. but that's, that's, -- ~>> we're in alignment with the federal definition. >> great. thank you. thank you broegt. >> commissioner evans. >> thank you very much for this presentation.

i had spoken with director mcfad en about including the provider names which i really appreciate, that's really helpful. i think my second part of my request is to include the size of the contracts like the dollar value per, per site would be really super helpful. just to have a more comprehensive understanding of where the resources are going in the system and which sites are maybe canonical--economical for others. where does it show in the access data? --exit data? >> i'm not sure if it's showing in the exit data. >> let me do some analysis on that and i can get the information updated to you commissioner, to the commission secretary. >> thank you, i appreciate that.

so one of the things that has happened in the city which is really interesting, the first city, managed shelter was put in place i believe in 1990, right. and prior to that, there were shelters that were run by charitable organizations. but the city got into the shelter business in 1990 with its first one. we're now at 47 of them. xw 33 years later and they have become a de facto factor for housing even though people don't have rights.

duel diagnosis meaning they have a use disorder that layers on top to several to the housing. so these are the folks that you often hear neighbors complaining the most about. they're having a bad week and they make a verbal threat. they will be denied service and they will be exited from that shelter. and i've seen this firsthand. so we don't really have by which process by which they're getting into the situation. that we have a place to exit them to.

so one of the ideas that i would like for this commission to talk and engage the department about, is understanding the amount of shirn the size of problem and identify the ways of tackling it. and that may include, the 49th or 50th shelter, thinking about that place that is going to have, extra levels of support for people that are really struggling, that do need that stabilization before they can proceed. >> thank you, that certainly makes good sense. any other commissioners have other comments? i'll yield and allow the public to provide comment at this time.

we're going to limit two minutes. >> speaker: i will not even do two. i just want to appreciate the information and also youth provide for two years. we do see a distinct between what is shelter and what is transitional living program so. they're both temporary in nature in terms that they're time limited but two different kinds of interventions with different purposes. so while i just want that to be abundantly clear and they're run differently and operate differently and they have scatter sites, so we look forward to continuing to work with the department to, to collaborate to really identify the differences and how we can

work have a good flow with the system and understand the outcomes and impacts. we know that living programs for ours, 90% go on to stable housing. and our our shelter, about 40% move into transitional housing, that is our goal from transitioning to stable housing. would love to have more opportunities to talk about that. and love to talk about the good neighbor policies and of course we want to be good neighbor and i hope as we add expectations to our contracts, we add the funding to support services we need to maintain good relationships with our neighbors. thanks. >> thank you. >> i just want to say that about the things i said, there

are folks that we love that yes, need our help and we have to turn them out because they've broken a rule or other residents aren't safe with them there. but they need help, are they save on the street, absolutely not? is the public save on the street, absolutely not. they're the ones that need more help, there is no protocol we're just tossing them out there to od ob be arrested or hurt themselves or somebody else. it takes one bad trip, one whatever, bad week, somebody dying for them to have a mental break and that does not mean that they're bad people and they need our help more. i just love what you said, i'm really really pleased and so need it, thanks. >> thank you.

>> speaker: hi i'm here again, she, her, i'm a graduation of the first navigation center. when i went to the navigation center. i'll be frank, this will sound goofy but it felt like a shelter camp, there was no arm security. it's congregate, you can bring pets and partners and possession. and there is no, sometimes i would scrounge up to a location, if i scrounged up enough money. the first navigation center need to be incorporated in all the shelters, because it actually worked. for me and for so many other people. and also i want to talk about the denial services. i know lea mentioned, the

issues around people who have maybe broken some rules or really compensated. but i think one solution that could be if somebody is having a bad time. some way, to be able to, get back of course and also, i don't want this to make this a shelter system. i know there is been a lot of bullshit on that about that. shelter then turns over. i'm glad to see that, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> hi, again.

on doses and i see three, i see navigation center and then i see transitional housing. in part transitional, so if we're having such a massive amount of doses to me that's like a capacity. and ttsds the part of the system where it's broken where the navigation center is getting the funding and getting the support of just what a shelter would be getting.

there is an encampment outback and that's a bad look that the encampment is former guests that it feels really ugly to go into work. for staff to be not triggered and not over react. and we'll pull food out of the bridge and give it to the family, there is still fam. >> thank you. >> at this time we'll move to remotel public comment. >> there is a caller in the queue.

>> they must have hung up. >> okay, we'll move on to item 14. for the period of january 1. the amount of 36,897,380 which includes 15 percent of contingency and our deputy director will present that to us at this time. >> all right commissioners hello every one.

so i'm here to get your approval on a new contract agreement sf, the homeless out reach team agreement that has been awarded to luna health. next slide. the action remove is to approve the contract to provide homeless out reach and case services. requested for proease al rfp139. it's a new term ging january 1, 2024 through june 30th, 2027. the funding sources are mixed there is 77% general fund, 7 percent federal grant project assistance and transition from homelessness the past grant. 7% is state grant, behavioral health bridge housing. 5 percent state grant encamp resolution fund and 4 percent work order through the park and

recreation department. so this contract is really important contract it is the front door to the homeless response system. the steam is a team base team. they will go out to the field in various parts of avenue avenue and all neighborhoods and really focus on approach to connect folks to straet out reach. they act as access and makes several that is part of the program as well. the case manage is integral that it focus and making sure that there is a prij on the street so for fiscal year 22-23

the team did a wonderful job at completing over 4,000 out reach encounters, over 2000 entry assessment and served over 4,000 unduplicated clients. the homeless population characteristics, the majority of the team was 68% almost 70% male, 30% black african-american, and 13% lgbtq plus. all right, thank you. >> commissioners any questions or comments? >> this document, was provided this morning, i'll be abstaining. i can't. >> any other comments or questions? >> yeah, i have handful.

do we happen to know how much bids were received for this request proposal? proposal or is this a, subject to a no-bid? >> there were two that met the mqs, including. one agency met the minimum qualification and that's the contractor in front of you. >> so essentially, we only have one bidder that qualified? okay, understood. in terms of the contract, what are the, and i appreciate commission evans point about not having a lost time to review, but, in terms of the contract, requirements are there mild stones?

>> yes, there are contracts that they need to adhere to. >> how often are they assessed? >> we meet with the provider every two weeks. >> every two weeks. >> yes. >> okay. and is the expectations going forward versus the 22-23 request. we may be in a situation where we don't have a luxury of a choice. but looking at the fiscal year 22-23 results and con trafrting that on what the expectations were, when this contract was initialed. were the, were the goals of the contract satisfied that was

initialed? it was a 4-two month contract prior? has that contract been >> yes, that will be a name. >> yes, we just monitor the contract and they met or exceeded every objective. >> continuously? >> yes. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the 36 million, what was the last budget item for how many? and it's the every tire budget right? >> yes. >> and what was it in the previous, how much was it prior? >> yes.

and how many are out there? >> how many ftes? >> it's about 22? >> 22 out reach workers. so we have 22 out reach full-time employees and how many case managers? about 13 case managers full-time employees. >> 22 out reach and 13 case managers. do we know, by any chance what the payroll is for that? >> it's on. >> oh, we not had a chance to look at it. >> i apologize. >> that's okay, it's not your fault, i'm acting ignorant because i don't know. >> 68 total ftes.

>> thank you. thank you. >> hello, is current provider correct? there is one piece that we support them and making sure that there is enough staff to support the work. okay but that is, it's been consistent with a lot of our post pandemic. >> and this is the only, contract that we have? >> with luna health? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> how under staffed are they relative to where they want to be? >> 10% right now, sir. >> they're 90% at 90 capacity. >> yeah. >> that's one of the service objective goals is to stay at

90 percent to the best their ability. so we spent a lot of time hiring and retention and making sure the team that they're appreciated for the hard work they do. >> based on what i know, that's pretty good, right? is that fair to say? >> no, the staffing rate, being at 90%. >> yeah, if it's only 10%, missing right now, that's good. we've had some challenges and we've actually talked to this contractor about making sure that they have a staffing plan in place. of course we know it's challenging, but it's really important that they be fully staffed given their critical role in engaging with people experiencing homelessness on the street. >> we talked about a toolbox in ways that people can sign up

and get in the system and coordinated what else is in the toolbox? are there sandwiches? water? >> for the street out reach workers, yeah. they just play such a critical role for weather expectations as we head into the winter, handing out, survival tools so folks can stay warm if they don't want to come into the shelter, there is not enough in the shelter. making sure that we handout water, a lot of water, food. making sure that they have access to warm clothing, socks, hygiene kits, all sorts of different tools. working with the department of public health around referral, linking and connecting folks to other parts of the system of care. >> great, thank you so much.

this is such a huge part of the way that the way the city engages with people experiencing homelessness on the street. and, i know a lot of hot team workers and i know, what they do. i would have really appreciated receiving this document with some advance time to read through it. and form questions so that i could, adequately provide oversight which is what we're being asked to do on this body by the voters. >> commissioner the docket was sent to the 29th to the total commission. >> this document was provided on the october 29. >> all of you have the document, on the docket. >> i did not see it.

i understand that it's a three-year contract. and so, the back of the envelope envelope is about 12 million annually. >> i think it came out, to >> on average it looks like it's running--. >> mecca signaled me to come over. with mecca, and yes, this contract is for about three and a half years, 8.8 million a year.

>> okay, and of the 8.8 million bha percentage is going to salaries and benefits for staff? >> it's right around 7 million. >> i think it's about 80%. >> so what is the remaining amount spent on? >> it could be client supplies, storage for the client supplies, administrative staff.

>> page 13 has the answers to the questions that you've been asking. and you know, we don't have page numbers, at least i don't. >> it's the first page without a page number. >> okay, i'm looking at it now. >> thank you. and if it's helpful, we can talk a little bit about the model of out reach of haluna which is the contractor that ploys the hot team. so some a district base model and that's based on the 9 police districts in san francisco. they have a team of at least two people per district that are going out and i did, it's a relationship base model, they're going time and time again to check in on people that they've met with many times, seeing if now they're ready.

are you interested today in shelter. let me tell you what is available. so that's a relationship in geography model. and they're also involved in special projects. so one of them you may have heard of, it's called street to home and that's trying to identify people on the street who are ready to move directly to permanent supportive housing. to identify them, there is not a lot of preparation and to do the assistance and to work with the case management team to help stabilize them for about 90 days examine get them to pay rent. that's one of their project. one is journey home which is a new initiative. targeting people in the tenderloin who may have other friends in other parts of the california and other parts of the nation and help connect them to transportation and make sure that they're safe and

equipped to make a bus ride or a train ride if they have family eager to accept them. they're working really actively on our apac coordination efforts, really thinking where are people going to be and making sure that people have whether it's going to be a pop up shelter or inflated shelter bed, feeling strong and prepared. and a number of other projects, so the district model and then constantly being asked to do new and innovative things to try to help people get ready to both shelter or permanent housing. sometimes transitional housing, we're just distinguishing. >> a question, chair. >> yes, yes. >> thank you. there must be one of the toughest jobs out there.

buzz the member have a way to contact the person. how can we reach them? there are two opportunities, one of them can call 311 and that message can make its way and the other is sf hot has available phone number that clients were seeking, shelter can call or public could call and say, i see somebody on acorner, they look very cold, it looks like they really need some help. can you find them? it's a little bit of a, how would i, it's kind of a vulnerable part of the model, because it takes a huge amount of staff to respond to the calls and the rate at which, is sf hot receives a voice mail and says, please come to the

corner with a description of a person, they may or may not give their name. they may not give a phone number and then, jose who is sitting here is going to send one of the teams to look to find this person and what we found is only 26 percent of the time do they actually find the potential client. it's a lot of staff time is spent trying to respond with not so high success rights. we're spending some time thinking about the trade off and how can we improve going forward. >> thank you. >> can you speak about the coordination between the police department and hot. i guess, sometimes you've got. >> yeah, so one of the special projects, we do we call it h stock, i forget the acronym.

healthy streets out reach center, we just call it hsac, it's a collaborative effort noning many departments usually playing the lead, police are often there, fire department is there, dpw, hsh, the department of public health. all kind of convening in one intersection or street. let's say willow street which is one of the alleys that have a lot of people that have lived there for a long time. difficult to manage sidewalks and so forth. the role of hot is to go in advance and do our best to offer shelter, housing, services, time and time again. so that people really feel the opportunity for service and assistance rather than, you know, some kind of requirement that they need to relocate.

and the role of the police is separate than the role of sf hot and we've been careful to separate both rules. so this may have a portion, i'm not sure the name, but it's a group that goes out and they deal with severe mental illness and, and so i understand it at one point, there used to be like a clinical social worker so you can make 5150 referrals and it was hard to find people to work for the city and county of san francisco. am i right about that? could you educate me a little bit on this aspect of it? because i sense that there was some disappointment that the clinicians was taken off of this team?

>> i think you're talking about the skirt team? no? >> are you talking about the best team? >> so there was confusion what is called now street crisis. at the beginning we were haluna and wellness team. street crisis is with dph now they have combined all units with street crisis. so the connections those are the ones that are, that they for gogh the part of that. we were not part of that. we are paster combined effort but we have never had clinicians with us and our unit. >> i'm going to look at the

director because i feel like we should go high. is the loss, there was a perception that that was a loss not having that and i don't know how, how you see that. >> no, i don't think, i mean, we didn't have a loss per se. i think what, what, the question is, is do we have the right mix of people on the street? hot is a very specific role as our staff appointed out that you know, their role is really about engagement and working with people to get them into shelter or directly to home as tiana said, i think you know, this is part of a lot of different street out reach teams. who have very specific roles. so one, you know, dph has one that it leads, you know, the fire department has the ms6, they're different ways that people, both city employees and

nonprofit employees are reaching out to people in the streets. and the most important is that they're all coordinated so when a clinician is needed, a clinician can be there. but not every team needs a clinician. there is a role for the nonprofit partners that we have at the homeless out reach teem. --team. they do a great job. a lot of them have lived expertise and experience of homelessness, we found that to be particularly useful and they can also work in collaboration and partnership with the other teams that are out there. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> so i did look at my email and i'm going to apologize, it was in my email on the 29th, sorry i missed it. and i was informed by the deputy city attorney that would not be visible to abstain that i should be up or down one way or the other, so i'll be participating on the vote.

i did have a follow-up question, i saw, not page number but proposed subcontracter and it says hyphen trt, can you explain that aspect of this contract? >> what we found over the years is haluna health when there is no new initials, sometimes it's difficult to then be deployed to a new initiative like folks may remember the tenderloin linkage center and we had a lot of teams that we were staffing. so what we're trying to do is add more capacity to the team when the new initiatives come up that they can maybe support on the voice mail line and go check out that person and the hate to see if they're interested in shelter. that's the idea with cotenderloin. if ha luna wants to pursue additional capacity because of a new initiative they can make that request and we can see if that's possible.

>> and what percentage of the budget could be allocated on a subcontracting basis? >> we're looking it up and if we can't find it, we'll make sure that we have it next time. >> that whatever the math would be. >> and 20-dollar comissrate with the other people doing the work for haluna health? >> they may choose to rearrange. >> what is equivalent to halun health pay? >> they start at $25.

>> so that's a significant, i just want to point out, it makes me uncomfortable. >> thank you. >> cotenderloin folks. >> any other questions? >> yeah, one last question from me. is this the only out reach that team that hsa has. >> we have youth alliance to focus on out reach. >> okay, thank you. >> thank you, i want to open up to public comment, two minutes per commenter.

>> just two. >> i'm not saying to get in the way of any contracts. i just urge you to call 311 yourself or try to call hot team which will obviously, transfer you to 311. and see how the operators try to navigate you. they will i imply or push you towards the police department. i have several times tried to get to street out reach or hot teams specifically, i will not engage with 5-0 ethickly. and it is it is a hard sell.

they are trying to get you through filter through the police department before they get to any other out reach. so, check it out yourselves, just call 311 and see what happens and that might be a little bit of the answer in terms of response time, why you know, the 21 percent of the folks are not there once you get there is because there is a lag in time. >> thank you. thank you. any other members of the public who wish to make comment at this time? are there anyone who is dialed in remotely. >> there is no callers in the queue, chair. >> so i have a question, so this being the first contract, i guess my question, we don't

have the power to edit this contract so it's an up or down vote. if we wanted to say, that there should be pay equity, staff doing the same work? , does what, what would be the process? i guess, that would be for this commission to influence that? >> i don't know if this is the, the right answer to that question, but i can tell you how the small business commission would handle these issues. we would and perhaps the city attorney can further way on this. but if we had feedback on something that, that we had a recommendation before it went to the board of supervisors which is the next stop or perhaps the directer, i'm a little unclear.

we would say, we vote to approve with the following recommendations, and we we're on the record. >> got it. >> what our recommendations are. >> let's turn to the attorney to get what your recommendation would be and then we can have that. >> we can't hear you. i can't hear. perhaps you can use secretary's. >> commissioner evans is correct that this commission does not have the ability to direct certain edits, it really is a yes or no vote. the certainly the commission can give feedback about how they feel about the contracts and encourage hsh to consider more equity equitable approach including in its drafting of rfps.

>> thank you for the clarification. >> can i ask a quick question, commissioner evans, what is the discrepancy between who's payrolls, i didn't catch that, thank you. >> i would prefer the staff answer that question. but the way i understood the answer, there is a contract that can deploy up to 8 individuals doing similar work to what this contractor can do and one set of staff will be paid at the rate of $25 and another, the subcontracter staff would be $20. i don't know if i summarized that correctly. >> gee gee again, so the contract before you has a flat

rate, i believe it's 5 percent. and it estimates the number of fte, we should go back and confirm the pay rate question instead of having staff shouting out answers. i would like the opportunity to do that. as one of our staff members did clarify, this does not preclude. we don't set what rate they pay individuals, this is augmenting, existing staff time for work they'll be doing. but it's an important question commissioner evans and i want to get you an accurate answer. >> yes, items demoralizing if you're doing the exact work as somebody else but you're getting paid 20% less. one of the big things that is interesting about how the city has gone about addressing the challenges of homelessness, is; is the police department has

sfrd when you call, for police response those are city employees. when we're talking about your asking for a response to homelessness. so the pay gap is definitely a far cry from 25-20 hours. but to have disparity, i think it's important that we acknowledge that we don't want to come found inequities. >> what are the two providers. that is my quick question. >> haluna and coin tenderloin. >> thank you. >> and some mention of youth

alliance. >> like it would be under the similar comparison. and we're going to get contacts. commissioner. >> yes, i'm thinking about this having one qualifying bid submitted for the rfp. and i think i'm just wondering, is, is the universe of providers out there. i cannot imagine that it's large that can do this work. but either in other cities, have we identified anybody else that can do this work? how are we make thising a

competitive bidding process? is a question that i have and director, i don't know if you're the right person or director mcfad en. >> so we always strife to have a competitive process. we widely publicized the request for proposals that we put out. we're always looking for new partners. there is a, i'm certainly always looking at nonprofit that's can work with us and would like to and we have worked a lot with our equity office to really focus on particularly but ultimately, because we do a competitive bid process, we have to put that out on the street and then, we see who applies.

and i want to be clear. so i certainly want to convoy to the haluna health representatives, about you personally but it's our commission's responsibility to the public and to the system as a whole and how do we best fulfill and effectuate that responsibility. and so, i know for instance in my business that i would like

to have more providers than i currently have of some of my very r*e sources and it just does not exist. so the question that i'm interested in answering, are we looking at other providers? setting aside whether they want today bid or didn't want to bid, have we even identified any other providers and, you know, i'm trying to get a sense of how common this is in the sector? >> i would say this is one of the services that we probably have fewer providers in the city. but we do have others. i think that one of the things that we're going to get bert at, this is also our first contract that you know, staff have proposed before they can put forth before the commission for approval and we'll geter of thinking anticipating all the questions that may come up beforehand. and so you know, generally speaking, we will be able to

talk about the process of, you know, the rfp or whatever mechanism we're using to get proposals in and how that works. so we will make sure that we start to build that into the presentations. >> it's definitely, it's a leninger process and we're on the steep part of the learning curve right now. i think i remember our first commission hearing, we had many bumps and now we don't have many bumps. i imagine going forward, it will get smoother but for us right now, we're here now we have to figure it out. so we're doing our best and, and again, i just wanted to convey, on behalf of myself, i appreciate the partnership from the cbo, i appreciate all the work that you do. i know a lot of work went into this contract leading up to this. i appreciate your patience as we ask these questions and sort through this.

>> thank you, commissioner. is there a motion to approve? >> so moved. >> second. >> >> it's been moved and properly second. : i ask the secretary to please cal call the roll. >> can i make a amendment. >> you can make a recommend atesing. >> can i make a recommendation that we approve contingent on sorting out some equity between people that are in comparable roles to ensure that there is pay equity across the contractor and the subcontracter? >> not contingent that would be, that would be an added but certainly the commission could vote to recommend to the department to look at that in future contracts and in negotiations and in developments of rfps to

encourage them to >> would that recommendation have to be a separate vote? >> at the discretion of the chair. >> yes, i would want it to be. >> that's fine. >> motion on the table. please call the roll. >> we've already had public comment on this. >> chair. >> aye. >> vice chair. >> aye. >> commissioner evans. >> aye. >> commissioner lagauina. >> aye. >> next our agenda item is item 15, general public comment, if needed. and i don't believe that there were anyone who did not make public comment earlier that would like to make it now. so, if that's you, please come up. i don't see anyone.

so we'll move on to the next agenda item which is item 16 commission matters. >> so as suggested i would like to make a recommendation to the department that that we look at ensuring that people doing out reach to people experiencing homelessness, substantially comparable job, be paid equitably between providers including the contractor and sub contractors. >> would it be specific to this contract? >> i would say, it would be a great principle in general but, you know, i think that again, this is the primary contract that is out reach contract. i made it specific to that rule. so, commissioner, williams brought out an excellent point how we address community

concerns about people experiencing homeleness. when i go to a merchant association meeting and they say, i have somebody that is sitting outside of my store, it's bad for business. this person seems like, they need some assistance. i would like to be able to call somebody to help them, right. and so, in our neighborhood in the heat ash berry as a merchant association, board member, have encouraged our members to build relationship with service providers that have a location in our community. so that you can, you know, specifically out reach to the local provider because of the situation and when you call hot team. >> uh-huh. >> whether they were saying, i'm not sure when you heard, only 25 percent of the do they locate that person. it would be, it would be even

better, especially in areas where we have, other compete concerns. to ensure that there are people that have cultural confidence, that people that there is a service provider knows who is who that if there is a situation with a particular individual that they can be responsive in that moment when that person is there at that moment. and so, that's what i've encouraged, you know, my merchant members to do but other merchant association that they should develop those relationship with service providers in their community. but, hot team, is cannot really be counted on to be an immediate realtime response. so as a result, the police have become the defacto response. like, basically, what happens as people say, well i'm not

nobody from hot team arrived, so basically, i'm, a lot of people results in a call escalating call where the person then be directed to the police saying, you know, this person is, you know, impacting the right away, or so the police respond whether or not there is a legit mate basis for it to be a criminal matter. >> does, so this feels like a separate issue from, pay equity between temporary workers and permanent workers which i thought that's what we were talking about. i just want to be clear, -- ~>> through the chair, i do want to be careful about this turning into a discussion item that has not been agendized. >> thank you for that.

so this is agenda idea for us to add to our next agenda. >> i think it would be done at the director's report, the if the director is amenable to provide an update on how to think about pay equity about out reach workers and similar positions. >> thank you, any other recommended? >>, sorry. just to add to that. i'll be interested in hearing why that is the way it is or was approached in that way? and, whether there is a variety of different examples of for why that might be? like it's, before we issue a blanket recommendation i would like to understand the full

scope of, why temporary workers. so if that was added to the report, then i would also like to hear about the reasons for why we're doing this and maybe some of the different examples. >> yes, so maybe what we can do, to your question is in my report next month, i think put how we think about this and the reality that we work with different organizations that we fund and their different pay scales and you know, and how they all come about that, and i'm happy to cover that in my report. we'll come up with, some answers for you. >> thank you. >> will there be another contract next month to review, director? do we have another contract to review next month? yes, okay. >> yes, we will and i think

generally speaking, moving forward, you can expect that we'll have contractors at each meeting. >> so the recommendation, as soon as share that with the commission so we'll have time to review. this is a lengthy pact and we want to have some time to review it, and that will be my recommendation. as much as possible. >> i have a separate recommendation. >> sure. >> i really appreciated the presentation today on shelter and i know that the director is, trying to give us a intro to we had already discussed eviction prevention, this meeting was shelter the next one is, housing i believe. i, i did think that in terms of like, in addition to continuing the conversation around eviction policies for housing, it bob worth while for us to

explore further denial of service from shelters. and in particular, you know, this has come up around, the narrative of that about people refusing a shelter offer. so in the last two months, the mayor that's tweeted specific data, saying at this location, there were 15 people and only two accepted shelter. but there wasn't any explanation of what like shelter was offered and what people have accepted another form of shelter. you know, if it was available and so, we really lack a complete understanding and picture about, the quality of shelter, the likelihood that people will accept shelter and stay in shelter, because it's my experience that the, various shelters, the quality of those experiences vary widely.

and people willingness to accept certain types of shelter, may be contingent based on location and bathroom, may be contingent on whether or not, they. so i think there are so many different way that's we can kind of look at the system of the current 47 shelters and really try to understand where the gaps are, so when they're evaluating new solutions, there will be contracts coming forward with proposals of new shelter sites, we want to make sure that when the gaps are. so we're addressing those proactively. >> you and i have chatted. >> i'm sorry, commissioner. to prevent a discussion, i would recommend that you would, so this is something that i

have written down as potential item, if there is other, maybe we can do that. >> i was going to confirm clarify that we're, that you and i have spoke about this before, and, essentially you're saying that we should be collecting data on why people declined? >> and also why they exit, why they're denying service. >> okay. >> and which sites have higher rate of denial of service as well. >> any other recommendations for the agenda items for our next meeting? open up to public comment at this time? public who wish to make comment we'll keep it at two minutes per commenter. >> no callers on the queue. >> no members of the public who wish to make public comment so

we go to remotel. >> to comments. >> this brings us to our adjournment. >> yes. >> motion to adjourn. >> second. >> this meeting is adjourned. >> thank you.

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the show that's focused on rebuilding, reimagining, and revitalizing our city. with us today is katy tang, and she's talk to -- talking to us about assistance and services provided to local businesses. can we talk about the role of the office of small business? many small businesses are struggling to help. how can you help? >> director tang: we are here as the city's central point of information for all things small businesses, so we can help people start, stay, and grow in the city. if you want to start a small business, we can pair you up with small business advisors, who can talk you through your business plan, help you develop it, whether it's regulatory requirements, business permits, and just help you understand

the journey that was up ahead. and if you'd like to stay in san francisco and perhaps your business is facing challenges, we can also pair you with a business advisor who can assess your business needs and figure out whatside that would best help you. so for example, perhaps you need more marketing assistance or you need to be connected to a loan, a low interest loan or a grant program, if that's available. those are services we can provide to you, whether you're starting out or trying to stay in san francisco. and of course, if you want to expand and grow into a new space, we can help assist you with that and help prepare you for the journey ahead. we have a team dedicated to assist you you with all the small business needs, all the requirements needed to help you establish your small business in san francisco. >> do you have an e.s.l.

program for people who want to start small businesses? >> director tang: we have staff that can speak spanish and mandarin and cantonese, and we understand if english is not your first language, it can be difficult, so we want to be as helpful as possible. >> excellent. i know that s.f. shines was created to help with restoring and improvement. can you tell us more about that? >> yes. it's run out of a sister development and it's much needed in the small business community. if you are trying to improve your storefront, whether it's outside, perhaps you want to make some interior improvements, a lot of times, that involves a lot of cost and resources to be able to do so.

for example, you may need to hire an architect to submit drawings so you can get your work done. currently, s.f. shines is offer a pairing of business sign services. you can be paired up with an architect to get your drawings done to help you start to do the actual work. we hope that people will stay tuned, and you can find out more information on our website. that's sfgov.org/osb. >> let's talk about the shared spaces program. it's been a huge success, and outdoor dining spaces are very popular. >> the shared spaces program,

especially during the pandemic, really helped spaces survive. to have an outdoor space where people could safely gather was critical, and the office of small business has been working with these shared spaces during the pandemic. some may or may not have been up to the city's code regulations, so department of public works and other departments have been trying to figure out what violations are and help businesses come into compliance. the planning department and the city have decided that they'll give businesses until 2023 to come into compliance. also in the meantime, for businesses that want to start

new shared spaces, new parklets, that is still an on going program, a new program, so people can always submit their applications for shared spaces regardless whether they started one during the pandemic or not. >> do you anticipate there being other shared spaces programs in the future and how do small businesses go about finding out about them? >> small businesses can find out about it by visiting our website, sfgov/osb or you can call 415-554-6134, and we can connect you with the planning department and other agencies that would be connected with the shared spaces programs. >> over the pandemic, businesses have been victimized by vandals and other crimes. how can you help them?

>> the city offers a program called the vandalism relief fund, and this would allow businesses suffering from graffiti or broken windows to apply with the city through our neighborhood services division, and you could get up to 1,000 or 2,000 if you submit certain documentation, such as a photograph of the damage or a copy of the receipt or document showing the amount you paid for to correct the incident. we are so excited that the city now has a centralized permit center, where people can come and get their business done, hopefully, in the same day where there are several different agencies, ranging from department of building inspection, planning

department, public health, fire department, all here to help people, whether you're building a new business or even new construction, to be able to, again, fit all of your appointments in one day and get things done quickly. so starting in may, our office of small business has actually started working out of 49 south van ness at the permit center, and we have a team of two staff who are dedicated to helping small businesses through their permitting journey. so we do encourage people, you can come to the permit center or you can e-mail us at sfosb@sfgov.org, and you can communicate with our staff dedicated to helping you with your permitting needs. we hope that people will consider consulting with us before you even sign a lease so that we can help you on the path to success and understanding the journey of setting up a small business in

san francisco. >> well, thank you so much. i really appreciate you coming on the show, miss tang. thank you for the time you've given us today. >> director tang: thanks for having me. >> and that's it for this show. we'll be back shortly. you've been watching san francisco rising. for sfgovtv, i'm chris manners. thanks for watching. (music). >> i started the o was with a financing and had a business partner all ended up wanting to start the business and retire and i did was very important to me so i bought them oust and two weeks later the pandemic h-4 one of the moments i thought to myself we have to have the worse business in a lifetime or the

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of incredible and something that northbound thought we could do. >> we got ourselves back and made me realize how for that people will show up if i was blown away but also had the courage but the commitment now i can't let anyone down i have to make the space serviceable so while this is a full process business it became much more about a space that was used by the community. and it became less about starting up a business and more about the heart of what we're doing. this building used to be a- and one of the first one we started working on had we came out what a mural to wrap the building and

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united states of america. republic for which it stands. one nation under god, indivisible. with liberty and justice. vice president carter. i'd like to take roll. commissioner walker. present commissioner benedicto. present. commissioner yanez. present commissioner byrne. here. commissioner yee. here. vice president carter. overstone you have a quorum. also with us tonight, we have chief scott from the san francisco police department. and i believe dpa is in route for members of the public. we are going to take one line item out of order. we're going to do general public comment line item two first, and then we will do line item one. all right, line item two, general public comment at this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear