>> meeting this afternoon at 1:30 pm., tuesday, november 14, 2023.) (gavel) okay. so we'll call the roll. public utilities commission commission at the order i want to note that the clock is 15 minutes off and at 2 o'clock it is automatically changed to the correct time i'm told in case you are wondering what went on

or fell asleep roll call, please. >> president paulson here. >> commissioner campbell here. >> commissioner ajami. >> commissioner maxwell. >> commissioner stacy we have quorum. >> okay. >> okay. i'd like >> okay. i'd like are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush (rah-my-toosh) ohlone (o-lon-ee) who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory.

elders, and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. >> first item please. >> 3. approval of the minutes of october 24, 2023. >> any corrections to those minutes any public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. >> can i entertain a motion to approve the minutes of october 24th. >> moved and seconded roll call, please. >> president paulson, aye.

>> commissioner campbell, aye. >> commissioner ajami, aye. >> commissioner stacy, 5 i's okay. next item is general public members of the public may address the commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdiction and are not on today's agenda. seeing none, no members of the public item 4 is closed a he can have the report of the general manager. >> discussion. >> thank you, mr. president. item 5 a. >> 5a. report of the general manager (discussion only): annual policy and government affairs update. emily lamp will be presenting. >> i'm the general manager for

general affairs providing you the annual affairs update the team worked with the staff across the agency to advance the elective agenda i want to recognize my team who are here jenny, rebecca and scott and others. they thank you for your dedication and hard work. tried to be responsible to the folks and proud of them and happy to be here today and also the elective alliances from each enterprise and power and making we are grateful appreciate the partnership and finally thank you are state lobbyists in sacramento and federal folks. um, commissioners in our meeting

materials have a written memo summarizing did you activists i want to highlight a few things at the local level secured 27 hours and handled offer several requests one of the top priorities for the financing with the water and wasting package. dj helped that with the left lane leaders and we can address their questions and proud of the work to help get the rates approved and continue to have the revenue to function and stat level dj led and coalition and for an extension of the state for the payment program that released an additional $600 million for low

income customers in the program. we believe this money about directly help tens of thousands of customers to avoid shut off i'm proud of that because it is concrete and god time is a right and work together the conferring to make sure the rate payers get the maximum amount puc is expecting to receive $22 million in addition to about $16 million very impactful money overall we - we skriend for thousands of bills for their impact to the agency and with the enterprise narrowed down and dpaemd with the highest impact agencies self would have sitly water rights in

particular were 4 water right bills worked on. trying to work towards the goals of bill and mitigating negative consequences on our operations and two of the bills were removed by the office and the other two passed after we worked with the amendments. given the continued interest in the water rights dvrj will working closely with the water enterprise in good faith to educate and advise on the water rights. at the federal level we focus on the opportunities for infrastructure mandates the stay resolving funds relies on the historic funding from the bipartisan on the clean

waterside not seen the water dollars and the increased decreased if we are vigorously opposing those cuts to improve the program. as we look forward towards next year the parties will be funding the programs like s r f for the bipartisan infrastructure law and infrastructure act we have worked with the office in expanding the low income water assistance program. and helped to start the program and with low income consumers we are looking forward to working with with them to establish and permanent program and thank you

and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you for all that one big request for i hear people talk about this a lot a member of a lot of applications have an standing on different issues happens often that dr is never nor - line up with the values in san francisco. and i know as a commissioner, i would love to be - our team to feel comfortable to say no we don't want to fellow in opposition liken the program you just mentioned the low income program i mean, was a lot of opposition from the associations on that and you and i had this conversation and i don't think

are interested in oh, my god it by in group opposition anyway we're going in the same - i totally think should be comfortable enough to not put our names in the opposition letter or other organizations; right? they are very different. and i definitely understand and agree with you think we truly try to invest as may 25th - june 15, 2018, many times to have our voices heard we are one of many but not shy being active and continue to do so i hear you. >> thank you. >> if you ever need our help to, you know. i know need of that but need our help putting

force into the opposition. i think i would speak unon my on behalf of happy to help- >> (multiple voices). >> you thank you for that. >> (laughter.) >> or blame me i prefer that thank you for the offer. >> any other comments on the good work you are doing and the application to be able to get behind so many different pieces of legislation and policy positions are needed. and i will say, you know. with the infrastructure law and with the inflation and reduction act are pretty clear san francisco value types of obviously legislation we're so happy that passed. that is something we move on my other questions or comments on this presentation? >> so, thank you.

>> thank you for that summary open up for public comment please. for item 5 a. >> to invite comments on 5 a this is a members of the public? >> public comment is closed. >> okay. >> next item b. >> b) results of the 2023 power revenue bond sale. >> thank you. >> thank you. will present it. >> good afternoon commissioners. pleasure to see you again. you may recall at the september 20th meeting i approved power revenue bonds we're here to provide you the results of this and. next slide, please. hopefully each of you have seen

the e-mails have been sent citywide providing updates on what we've mroshtd with the bond sales a much abbreviated presentation of the bond sale but, of course, for members of the commission and public full information about the bonds is available on the website shown on the slide. so after your approval of the bonds on september 20th we immediately issued the offering document and our underwriters market bonds to investors on september 27th and placed the bonds and closed those bones then in october 12th. we had a simple indicate approved and, of course, the strong and stable

rating we obtained prior to the approval. showing you versions of this chart a number of tons come back with each bond sale i think what maybe notable here is the changes from what you saw for the water bonds. specifically again, just to remind you when we issue a thirty year bond especially we're issuing up to thirty different utilities with their own interest rate and in a normal environment one year bond has a lower rate than a 2 and three year bonds and so forth if you look at the yellow dash line that's the average over the last 10 years. >> that dark um, line in the middle of page is where rain water were in just prior to the

bond sale in september. and those blue bars is showing the view for the rates has been is range of rates over the past year as you can see the rates have been going up and reached the top of that 10 year period. historic you'll see the rates are well below over the thirty year period that range is pardon by the red and green bonds as you can see that the bonds have been higher this fall than in during the summer we took advantage of issuing the water bonds. still we had very strong participation with those bonds you know what the power enterprise first issued bonds in 2015 and again in 2021 this is

the third issuance of power revenue bones so this was a scareist factor with the prescription was 3 times the number of bonds available and that's - level of subscription houses us to have lower rights it during the pricing process the final results were that blend of rates on the curve provides the interest costs of 4.56 percent for the bond. and by comparison they're many factors go into the pricing of bonds we don't expect power and water bonds to be comparison the water bonds which were even more

favorable market were 4, and 10 percent the bonds are marketing in the current market for 5 percent coupons but someday within the yield of the marketplace. for example, in a one year bond has a one percent yield but the coupon a 5 percent the investors are paying a premium so that is bond we're able to produce one hundred and $31 million in other words, able to issue more bonds as a result of that premium and those bonds were used to pay commercial paper that had been used to fund

power projects that you previously approved in um, in the capital plan. as with all of our negotiated sales and gave me a pricing consultant in addition to the municipal bonds and the advisors but the pricing consultant was and they issued the independent report to indicate that the price we obtained was fair and reasonable given the may not be. >> so this chart simply gives us you what we accomplished with one hundred and 17.7 of commercial paper and as you can see the revenue bond program or powers are relatively small compared to the million we're

used to see power and water considerable increase in conceivable bonds? the depth structure where the rubber meets the road with the impact on rates what we do is we structure the bonds in the front end to create and gradual increase and layer those in over the thirty years because it's been two years since our last power bond in the final years a capacity to wrap the depth service that has the effect of allowing the evil debt service it has the effect in terms of measuring true interest costs for those the true interest cost is on the bonds in terms of we deferred the repayment by wrapping around

the debt service. finally and i think you've seen this chart before the final debt issuance of this calendar year are for but marks the end of largest issuance not puc- and 80 important to emphasize the reason bond take a number of refinancing as we discussed with the wasting and the water bonds and the darker colors are the green bonds and also see this has been is laboratory issuance of bond in the history and scheduled to at your request the general managers request to come back on november 28th for a

presentation on green bonds looking forward to returning for that and with that, i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> >> great. thank you for that summon commissioner ajami. >> a couple of questions on the last slide we need the issue some of the bonds i'm assuming some of those bars that you see on this area has been brought back into this the last column we see or the last bar; is that correct? >> that's correct. >> in in other words, previously issued bones and in terms of how much we issue in the marketplace it is accumulative but the net impact (unintelligible). >> but the figure you have in

those years, however, some of that has been reissued. >> those are the bonds we had to find investors for in that year. >> i got it was wondering on the power bar on the last bar the 2023 the power, you know. objective the powering section has a lot of opposition it is easier to fit it into green i'm wondering why those bonds are non-green. >> yes. commissioner at the last meeting no september we recommended to the commission that nothing about those bonds any less green than in prior years. um, the history of the pucs clean bond program i don't want to give the full 28 november presentation but quickly, the history is that

power enterprise was first issued in 2015 and at that time that was typical for ourers were self certified we determined they're green bonds we look forward to the water and water water we look forward to the certification is it fair to say the public utilities commission has been using the policeman standard for the green bars with the climate bars certification and verification by the works. the collapse has changed objective and notable yes. the office of securities has been talking about the green bonds he as you see generally talking about green issued and their recommendation was this self

certification represents more potential risks so to us and we are going forward with an rfp process to engage marketplace not because we're dissatisfied with the people but have one enterprise that is self certified today but many new players and rapidly involving in the marketplace and an opportunity to refresh and make sure we're at forefront of the best practices and any other questions. >> thank you for that open up for public comment thank you for the presentation and looking forward to seeing you in two weeks. >> thanks >> any members of the public present to provide comment on item 5 b?

>> public comment is closed. >> thank you madam secretary that concludes my report. >> . okay. >> are there so to no items for item c >> general engineering construction work on san francisco public utilities commission systems and operations around hetch hetchy. any items the commissioners want to remove from consent calendar. >> yes. a question. yeah. >> okay. item consideration pull for questions and item d, please and um, item d? >> and c. >> right. >> not pulling just clarifying questions. >> can i have that two for c,

d, and e just questions on so i think we can um, do we need to open public comment? >> continue to make a motion than to. >> i'm sorry, go ahead and have your conversation and- >> (multiple voices). >> let's have the conversation. >> let's talk about item c commissioner. >> are we going to hear. >> it is the consent calendar. >> i'm sorry can you speak into the microphone. >> my question is why now are we having this extension that's my question. >> um, (rustling of papers.) >> i why are we um, doing this

now. >> good afternoon, commissioners realtime services expending the contract to support existing work and we're doing it in, you know. in the increment we think will take to accomplish the existing work. >> okay. >> um, so we are extending it because we have more work than we thought because - >> this contract has speciality work to support the real estate and have economic consultants and we have surveyors from time to time an ongoing project the surveyors prayers oversees calculate rent eat surveyors support the work that the

dispute over a boundary we send this out and all sort of economic analysis right now in the middle of preparing a reappreciate of model internal for parcels first of all, the properties. >> any other questions on item c? >> okay. earning item d. >> you had questions on d? >> so, thank you. >> question for you so, you know. this is quite known i'm trying to figuring out how this works can be done. >> contracting it out.

>> uh-huh. and this sounds like skill sets can be variable and why not train people rather than paying something else to come in and do it? i'm wondering what is the job qualification and yeah. >> yeah. >> we realize this is we can do it in house we have been doing the training for project managers and the project is something like planning and (unintelligible) and also return back to normal so our resources optimize. the usage about how we have resources so don't want to plan for - wellness that is

peaked over that's not good so what we're been doing with the core team with the project management and have the skills by doing some peak time we have the resources to finish the work so we can use is consultant as a - to after he's done we return to normal with the project manager to and it would be good to also create.

>> error or mistake with those conducted in the contract we correct that and renegotiate and consider the puc ability to maintain like we need the well and make sure we can have the long term. >> thank you. >> i just - maybe a little bit off script i just came back from denmark and part of the policy delegation with a bunch of projects and i keep asking about contracting projects and pricing and all that. and i'm,

you know. one of the things that came up in this conversation was that this we have a very specific performance base. contracting which, you know, not that uncommon thing but if a project finishes on time, you know. a by that for both party if it goes over we share the cost half and half i realize the project has a little bit problem here and there but thinking about how we can contractors work with and an important part of this project. i think not just about this project but generally keeping this in mind to create and system for that that will be very useful for us. and game share arrangements not

just in san francisco but just now being creative and one example with the emergency work after the winter storms and had contracting to be successful so it maybe different and curious how we do that but, yes worth considering. >> without getting into any of the ideas and incentives or non-incentives ask the question has been a complarthd project he adding to it i saw with my fellow commissioner hopefully to get an update on some of the details what is happening with that that is important with that sometimes difficult project thank you for that any other kissing from the commissioners? >> okay. that being said, i think are there any other questions at all and if not open up for public comment on the

consent agenda. >> any members of the public to provide comments on the consent agenda? >> public comment is closed. >> okay. motion and second for the consent calendar motion and second came in an oxen to that passed roll call, please. >> president paulson eyes. >> vice president rivera, aye. >> commissioner maxwell, aye. >> commissioner ajami, aye. >> commissioner stacy, aye. >> 5 i's everything on the consent we has the next item, please. >> >> 8a. advance calendar. >> you skipped item electric to provide the sfpuc secondary voltage service under pg&e's wholesale distribution tariff for some 30 megawatts of

city load. >> thank you barbara hale assistant general manager for power i'm here to enter into the settle b&b by the commissioner secretary summarized first context i'll provide will address the services we purchased from pg&e with a number of disputes that arise and the litigation underway as well as the settlement we operate for electrical services for the housing development and get into the particulars 0 first of all, the services we purposed from pg&e hefty averages about one million megawatt hours to

serve you're about 6 house customer accounts most of our customers have connected to the pg&e owned distribution grid we pay pg&e $45 million a year for that service. the cost for that service are part of our hefty power costs recovered from hefty electricity and the rates you set and they're billed monthly but our puc customer service bureau the $35 million a year question paid pg&e is based on a transfer proposed by pg&e and approved by the federal regulatory commission the services form our rights to access the service. they are for pg&e the rules that other utilities like us have to our consumers the pg&e terms of service that creates this

dispute between pg&e and ourselves and frankly the customers we service from hefty hetch hetchy program and working with the city attorney we filed a complaint in early 2019 with the regulatory commission challenging pg&e in practice they refused to provide secondary voltage service to the customers with electricity load studying 75 kilowatts a small thresholds pg&e asked for primary service will be appropriate for customer like san francisco general hospital. they xhoetdz large electrical equipment costs and cause delays and make hetch hetchy infeasible

the complaint deemed no technical justification or any safety or liability need for primary voltage service that pg&e didn't apply those same requirements to on the customers and it alleged against the city. you, you know. we respect report to you and the board of supervisors on our static to context pg&e customers to the grid on a quarterly because the last report in august of 2023 and showed 42 active projects facing delays and increased costs because of pg&e for more than thirty projects other projects that we found was infeasible to meet the unreasonable requirement they

competed wouldn't be hetch hetchy customers the total impact for the 72 projects from the august report was approximately $13 million a those costs will continue this is because they will pay the higher pg&e charges as long as they're connected. on average our customers pay thirty percent lower than pg&e rates there is also the financial harm to the city from the fact that um, the higher costs that they're paying is eating into the operating costs for the department and taking away from their core services and our loss in revenue for the pg&e customers instead of the hetch hetchy customers i'm talking about the impacts

talking about affordable housing and campuses like the projects and i'm talking about individuals building libraries like the one hundred and 38 units under construction and talking about stormwater prejudicially stations and irrigation system line on sunset boulevards and the chinatown public health center and elementary schools like i believe heart and golden gate park and the neighborhood centers like friends and litigating issued related to the pg&e tariffs those are multiple service levels the form la requirements that are passed on to us for updates to the pg&e and treatment of unmetered likely the street lights and

traffic signals and non-possible services charges and holdings pg&e accountable to reasonable engineering and timelines that is important for projects getting connected and city services back underway we have an affordable housing agreement. so we have been successful in negotiating for reasonable connection terms with both pg&e for certain types of affordable housing and pg&e has agreed to context the housing with handicapped affordable to no mix the projects on city land and the puc condominiums to charge the hetch hetchy customer a low income rate. that agreement expires in 2011 so few the new agreement before you this settlement will allow us to

connect 20 megawatts of metered customers at secondary voltage when they're existing hetch hetchy customers that change their electrical services and city departments and rolled combaebts /* equity the private colleges and private entities but this will be 5 megawatts and the settlement that is before you will last for 5 years in exchange the city will permanently dismiss and wave any claims for monetary damages. we recommend this settlement because will resolve this complaint and provided certainty for us and some of our customers on the rules for advisory committee to the pg&e grid for 5

years. and avoids continued pg&e disputes delays and costs for that set of customers. with that, i ask for your support of this settlement and the authorization to take to the board for approval and i'm available for questions. but if you require legal counsel we have noticed a closed session and can take that up at that time. >> thank you for summarizing those i know will be commissioners lining up to ask questions or comments before i do that i'd like to say contacts i think we have read and the presentation, you know. puts things in a pretty outrage position i think that pg&e putting us in this position really just disrespectful to what is happening in san

francisco with mixed feelings we have this on the agenda to deliberate as commissioners in that context first commissioner stacy please. thank you. i really have a procedural question because in closed session on item 14 if we approve this matter now we won't have questions for legal counsel on the calendar is in the procedure by have questions any on about will be addressed in closed session and vote on that after the closed session. >> yeah. >> how does that work? >> i'm happy to take in the questions that is a matter of interest to the public so any questions? i can he answer in the public i recognize somehow maybe. >> a commissioner stacy is that clear. >> thank you. i want to make sure i understood the process

and i did read all of the agenda items and have some questions answered by um, staff ahead so i don't think i have any further questions but. thank you. >> okay. commissioner ajami. >> thank you so thanks for that clarification. can i have a little bit of a - i was precipitated by those bonds as a layperson that is not xhashlth and straightforward but i mean is that something you should be historically why refer it to a federal body that is supposed to provide a fair assessment of

situation? take a side should not be taking providing um, you know. fair statement. >> uh-huh. >> of the situation. >> certainly an ongoing situation with staff together with city attorney. you know. the only way to avoid those issues is to be the owners of grid we avoid having to do the mother may i when we have disagreements with pg&e. i'll point out one of the decisions we took on appeal and burke was remand back by the court we were told his got it wrong. >> that is a lengthy process; right? and in the meantime, we

have city departments and other customers who need to make improvements of facilities and we need to do our business not an ideal scenario to do the trip to washington and request for intervention. >> on that note is there a way - i mean i know we want to settle and move forward. >> given. >> sure. >> but only have 5 years; right? >> correct. >> my question it is this for strategic to think about the 5 years or should we think about putting it, you know. i don't know an amendment that says, you know. we will recoup the costs the legal costs and the distribution? i mean a lot not

beyond just they spent a lot of time and lots of legal costs associated even if come for free am wondering if we need and guarantee. >> well, i think the concern you're expressing about um, you know. how this can happen again and that for me that is part of the reason why we go with the shorter term. and it allows us to be more comfortable with the cap that pg&e is wanting to impose own us; right? so this dynamic we have a longer-term need and higher cap. >> sure. >> i can't imagine that is part of what pg&e and the city have unarguing about as we come to a

settlement like this the longer - helping us to mitigate that concern is the fact we have the affordable housing agreement so that's that category of load we can serve outside the cap we have until three 1 and over the 5 years to 10 years whether make progress on the acquisition another mitigating factor and helps us helping um, get a more responsive pg&e when issues come up. and you feel that the settlement that is in front of us is the best i could have gotten on the process or, you know. we could have asked for more a game; right? >> (multiple voices). >> ask for more and yes, i'm standing before you you recommending it i think that the

best we can get. >> uh-huh. >> thank you. >> vice president rivera. >> thank you president i wanted to make a comment and underscore something you said when i managed the capital improvement of sf fire we had massive delays with um, this process was - hopefully with the settlement will no longer be absolutely frustrating and impactful on knack budgets affordable housing replace of employment is frustrating reading we're having a settlement i'm so happy for the city departments that don't have to go through that it was

terrible. >> yeah. you're speaking to - the settlement provide and really does not only does unbutcher us with the associated cost you were mentioning but you're highlighting for the city and the budget and all that so, yeah. >> commissioner maxwell. >> thank you and congratulations i know that is rough but at least we got there to somehow degree can you give me an example and today with our customers where we are live have a right to secondary service. >> (multiple voices.) >> and i'm going to do this for the audience. >> secondary services yeah secondary services the ability to connect to the pg&e grid for services referred to as a facility. so if

you're um, for example, the beginning friend rec center and make these visit your property today without the settlement pg&e was requiring that gwen friends set aside a base for primaries voltage equipment that's about the size of parking space. and a little bit bigger but to give you you a frame that is carving out space this is is core function and assessable to the street have redesign what they thought they'll do with their facility and buy the equipment and have that reviewed by pg&e and um, there the cost of their construction. >> and the conditional use permit is what that is tens of thousand dollars. >> 5 hundred thousand is standard for the equipment mind

what we see now with the settlement is approved by ourselves and our board is connections at secondary service voltage. avoiding all of that equipment being able to connect like other customers on pg&e grids. you avoid that $500,000 and does not have to take away space for the core services and equipment the process is xoementd to go much more quickly save an time. >> you're welcome. >> thank you for that and illustration any more comments from the commissioners, if not i have a question that goes to what commissioner stacy brought if i is confused prior to this meeting if we're going to go closed session i no problem

personally and, yes talking about this is a transparent as we can this an outrage commission to make difficult decisions but if the general counsel is there a need to go to closed session any more missing anything in terms of the questions we have not asked for right now? >> the answer is no. okay. that being said. thank you. >> and thank you, commissioners for asking those very constructive questions for a difficult situations with that vendor. so is there entertainment to make a motion for to accept the settlement? >> after public comment. >> yes. i'm sorry public comment, of course. >> members of the public present to provide comment on item no. 7?

>> seeing none, public comment is closed. >> okay. >> opinions i will repeat we're sort questions or comments that being said, a motion it a second to approve this settlement. >> i'll move. >> hear a motion and second roll call. >> president paulson, aye. >> vice president rivera, aye. >> commissioner maxwell, aye. >> commissioner ajami, aye. >> commissioner stacy, aye. >> 5 i's. >> okay. >> this difficult settlements passes and do some actually do some business here in san francisco so, thank you. >> okay. so. could you um, talk about the next item, please. >> >> 8a. advance calendar. information only on the communications any communication

items any commissioners want to discuss? >> okay. >> next item, please. >> tim 9. >> 9. items initiated by commissioners (discussion only) >> commissioners is there anything i wanted to put on the agenda or discuss? >> seeing none, um, commissioner maxwell. >> yeah. i don't really know how to say that. so hopefully, we'll figure it out but i'm wondering a way to look at our contracting out and how many people we or down and what departments? like down over 6 hundred people and some departments have quite a few people how does that relate to having to contract out our work? >> do we know.

>> i understand your question putting together a correlation of - so maybe somebody in the department can ask that you're comparing the fact trying to hire many people as departments are and also contracting out is that what you're referring. >> yeah. 6 hundred and 60 i think some departments over 50 and 60 people down how three residential hotels to contracting out and if it does at all? something i wonder about everything we look at our budget and say cost savings and salary saving are we really saving thousand? but we're spending money in other ways that is kind

of my question. >> i don't know if there is someone- >> (multiple voices). >> not now but i don't expect an answer now i don't want an answer now but a question does that relate than let me know and absolutely. we had a number of conversations as commissioner ajami knows in briefing on contract issues we've happy to stand by that and you'll find not as much of a correlation but make sure we have all the information. >> that's good. >> yep, absolutely we can we'll put them together for you. >> thank you. >> thank you. above you anything else? >> i'll just add. >> commissioner ajami. >> so you heard me saying that

yesterday i'm happy if trip i was in denmark and i was the able to see who they have masked all their infrastructure and excite how to move things, however, and i was like blown away like they basic decided to do this and did that and assuming they're not a brand new country and the city of copenhagen was not created yesterday they're older than us and able to do this. i asked them how do i do it the cost is difficult we use a lot of technologies but trying to figure out how to piecemeal but at the end. i don't know how to ask this who to ask how to figure that out but we need to do this in the city. and it is

kind of like we live and in the middle of all sort of technology; right? we're a land of technology everybody comes to here to learn i couldn't tell them we have a map of san francisco. i, you know. somehow we need to do this i'm happy to help if you want to bring people in to have that that conversation and mayor's office to have a conversation it is beneficial to us as a utility but we should do this it is important for us and can be very useful to us. thank you. >> any other ideas or initiations of discusses by any more commissioners?

>> okay. if not, i guess we will what the next item. >> public comment on this item and so i guess we need public comment on the two items have been brought up by do commissioner. >> members of the public to provide comments on item number 9? >> seeing none, public school public comment is closed. >> read the next item please madam secretary the motivators for heard prior to closed session public comment on item 12 conference for legal counselor proposed settlement on the damages for property from a rip it is your duty water main in the city and county of san francisco to $36,000 plus in exchange for final review and

approval by the board of supervisors and item 13 determined complainants by the city and county of san francisco in to delegate to the commissions and the city attorney the authority to set on the 9/11 water main break and commissioner discussion 14 will not be heard in the closed session so- >> members of the public present to provide comment on item 12. >> seeing none, closed session and 13 is closed. >> so we'll go into closed session make a motion to assert the attorney-client privilege regarding those matters just read. >> so moved. >> roll call.

>> motion sent. >> president paulson, aye. >> vice president rivera, aye. >> commissioner maxwell, aye. >> commissioner ajami, aye. >> commissioner stacy, aye. >> 5 i's. >> okay. (in closed session). >> . okay. um, we're back in session. commission is not - recommending this is the board recommend the settle in items 12 and 13 and 14 as the motion was not discussed so motion. >> just to clarify item 14 was pulled from the calendar. >> was not discussed okay.

thank you for the clarification is motion regarding whether or not to disclose the discussion. >> roll call, please. >> president paulson, aye. >> vice president rivera, aye. >> commissioner ajami, aye. >> commissioner maxwell. >> commissioner stacy, 5 i's. >> we have no other scheduled business so the meeting is adjourned. >> thank you. >> thank you, -

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by these we'll not to have the kind of store in the future the kids will eat from some restaurants chinatown has phobia one of the best the most unique neighborhood shopping areas of san francisco. >> chinatown is one of the oldest chinatown in the state we need to be able allergies the people and that's the reason chinatown is showing more of the people will the traditional thepg. >> north beach is i know one of the last little italian community. >> one of the last neighborhood

that hadn't changed a whole lot and san francisco community so strong and the sense of partnership with businesses as well and i just love north beach community old school italian comfort and love that is what italians are all about we need people to come here and shop here so we can keep this going not only us but, of course, everything else in the community i think local businesses the small ones and coffee shops are unique in their own way that is the characteristic of the neighborhood i peace officer prefer it is local character you have to support them. >> really notice the port this community we really need to kind

of really shop locally and support the communityly live in it is more economic for people to survive here. >> i came down to treasure island to look for a we've got a long ways to go. ring i just got married and didn't want something on line i've met artists and local business owners they need money to go out and shop this is important to short them i think you get better things. >> definitely supporting the local community always good is it interesting to find things i never knew existed or see that that way. >> i think that is really great that san francisco seize the vails of small business and creates the shop & dine in the 49 to support businesses make people all the residents and

visitors realize had cool things are made and produced in san my name is doctor ellen

moffett, i am an assistant medical examiner for the city and county of san francisco. i perform autopsy, review medical records and write reports. also integrate other sorts of testing data to determine cause and manner of death. i have been here at this facility since i moved here in november, and previous to that at the old facility. i was worried when we moved here that because this building is so much larger that i wouldn't see people every day. i would miss my personal interactions with the other employees, but that hasn't been the case. this building is very nice. we have lovely autopsy tables and i do get to go upstairs and down stairs several times a day to see everyone else i work with. we have a bond like any other group of employees that work for a specific agency in san

francisco. we work closely on each case to determine the best cause of death, and we also interact with family members of the diseased. that brings us closer together also. >> i am an investigator two at the office of the chief until examiner in san francisco. as an investigator here i investigate all manners of death that come through our jurisdiction. i go to the field interview police officers, detectives, family members, physicians, anyone who might be involved with the death. additionally i take any property with the deceased individual and take care and custody of that. i maintain the chain and custody for court purposes if that becomes an issue later and notify next of kin and make any additional follow up phone callsness with that particular death. i am dealing with people at the worst possible time in their lives delivering the worst news

they could get. i work with the family to help them through the grieving process. >> i am ricky moore, a clerk at the san francisco medical examiner's office. i assist the pathology and toxicology and investigative team around work close with the families, loved ones and funeral establishment. >> i started at the old facility. the building was old, vintage. we had issues with plumbing and things like that. i had a tiny desk. i feet very happy to be here in the new digs where i actually have room to do my work. >> i am sue pairing, the toxicologist supervisor. we test for alcohol, drugs and poisons and biological

substances. i oversee all of the lab operations. the forensic operation here we perform the toxicology testing for the human performance and the case in the city of san francisco. we collect evidence at the scene. a woman was killed after a robbery homicide, and the dna collected from the zip ties she was bound with ended up being a cold hit to the suspect. that was the only investigative link collecting the scene to the suspect. it is nice to get the feedback. we do a lot of work and you don't hear the result. once in a while you heard it had an impact on somebody. you can bring justice to what happened. we are able to take what we due to the next level. many of our counterparts in other states, cities or countries don't have the resources and don't have the

beautiful building and the equipmentness to really advance what we are doing. >> sometimes we go to court. whoever is on call may be called out of the office to go to various portions of the city to investigate suspicious deaths. we do whatever we can to get our job done. >> when we think that a case has a natural cause of death and it turns out to be another natural cause of death. unexpected findings are fun. >> i have a prior background in law enforcement. i was a police officer for 8 years. i handled homicides and suicides. i had been around death investigation type scenes. as a police officer we only handled minimal components then it was turned over to the coroner or the detective

division. i am intrigued with those types of calls. i wondered why someone died. i have an extremely supportive family. older children say, mom, how was your day. i can give minor details and i have an amazing spouse always willing to listen to any and all details of my day. without that it would be really hard to deal with the negative components of this job. >> being i am a native of san francisco and grew up in the community. i come across that a lot where i may know a loved one coming from the back way or a loved one seeking answers for their deceased. there are a lot of cases where i may feel affected by it. if from is a child involved or things like that. i try to not bring it home and not let it affect me. when i tell people i work at the

medical examiners office. what do you do? the autopsy? i deal with the enough and -- with the administrative and the families. >> most of the time work here is very enjoyable. >> after i started working with dead people, i had just gotten married and one night i woke up in a cold sweat. i thought there was somebody dead? my bed. i rolled over and poked the body. sure enough, it was my husband who grumbled and went back to sleep. this job does have lingering effects. in terms of why did you want to go into this? i loved science growing up but i didn't want to be a doctor and didn't want to be a pharmacist. the more i learned about forensics how interested i was

of the perfect combination between applied science and criminal justice. if you are interested in finding out the facts and truth seeking to find out what happened, anybody interested in that has a place in this field. >> being a woman we just need to go for it and don't let anyone fail you, you can't be. >> with regard to this position in comparison to crime dramas out there, i would say there might be some minor correlations. let's face it, we aren't hollywood, we are real world. yes we collect evidence. we want to preserve that. we are not scanning fingerprints in the field like a hollywood television show. >> families say thank you for what you do, for me that is extremely fulfilling. somebody has to do my job.

if i can make a situation that is really negative for someone more positive, then i feel like i am doing the right thing for the city of san francisco. good evening.an francisco. everybody. we'll get started. [inaudible]. good evening i'm manny i come from the navajo tribes tonight i will be the master of ceremonies throughout tonight's recognition. it is an honor for mow to do this land acknowledgment. i think i thank our relatives here in the land of the ramaytush ohlone to do this for you we