maybe that's him. we're going to go live. yep. there he is. okay. i thought we were waiting for mr. even with apec. he's here. right on time. welcome commissioner. thank you. thank you, everybody. i'm sorry. no, no, we're just. we're just glad to have you here, commissioner. okay, we're ready. okay okay. good afternoon, and welcome to the san francisco historic preservation commission hearing for wednesday, november 15th, 2023, to enable public participation sf govtv as broadcasting and streaming this hearing live and we will receive public comment for each discussion and action item on

today's agenda. each speaker will be allowed up to three minutes and when you have 30s remaining you will hear a chime indicating your time is almost up. when your allotted time is reached, i will announce that your time is up and take the next person queued to speak. we will take public comment from persons in city hall first and then open up the remote access lines for those persons participating via webex. the password is hpc 2023 and you'll need to use the raised hand icon to indicate that you are interested in commenting on a particular item for those persons calling in to submit their testimony, you need to call area code (415)!a655-0001 and enter access code. 26641596231 and press pound twice to comment. you must enter star three to raise your hand. and once you've raised your hand you will hear the prompt that you have raised your hand to ask a question. please wait to speak until the host calls on you. when you hear that you are unmuted and that is your indication to begin speaking best practices are to call from

a quiet location and please mute the volume on your television or computer for those attending in person, please line up on the screen side of the room or to your right. and i request that we all speak clearly and slowly. and if you care to state your name for the record, finally, i'll ask that we silence any mobile devices that may sound off during these proceedings. at this time, i'll take roll commission. president matsuda here, commission vice president warren here. commissioner campbell here. commissioner foley, high commissioner vergara here and commissioner right here. thank you, commissioners. first on your agenda is general public comment at this time. members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items with respect to agenda items. your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. again, if you're in the chambers, please come forward. if you're calling in remotely,

you need to press star three. seeing no request to speak commissioners general public comment is closed and we can move on to department matters. item one department announcements. good afternoon, commissioners. richard craig, department staff. i have no report. thank you. commission matters. item two commission comments and questions as any comments or questions from the commission. commissioner warren i just wanted to report that i went to the historic preservation technical advisory committee that is working with the port of san francisco on the sea level rise considerations for the piers along the embarcadero. and it was an interesting meeting with president matsuda, and i have gone to several meetings regarding this. it's a long term project where the city, particularly the port, is considering, along with the army corps of engineers, how to best

address the issues of sea level rise for the pier structures, which include the shed at the back of the pier and the bulkhead, which is facing the embarcadero and the embarcadero itself. it's interesting because they're looking at multiple different options for how to manage the rise is including raising the shed buildings and the bulkheads using either piers or doing fill underneath or floating structures. and you can imagine that it's quite an effort to understand and engineer something like that. so it it will go on through the next century and they talked about the life cycle of the sheds and replacing of the sheds at some point. and they will be publishing a feasibility study

and a potential you know, a potential approach to the work in late january which will solicit public comment and we hope that the planning department will also consider having them come and present at the historic preservation commission. currently, what's what's been studied is how many resources we have along the embarcadero, which is about 19 structures out of possibly 29 structures. so more than half. so it'll be of interest to us as well. and yeah, that's what that was what we discussed this week. thank you. thank you. could mr. craig, could you maybe clarify for us the i guess the purview of the hpc over what is happening at the port? sure the port is a little bit of a odd

entity because it's quasi state. so in most cases i do not think the hpc has jurisdiction over port properties given its kind of dual role between the local and state. so but we would be if you could maybe ask mr. pius to come and present, i think that would be good because i think at least our comments would be considered right. and the yeah, correct. the port has always been a good partner with us on anything related to historic. and so obviously, you know, they have a preservation planner on staff. mark paez, who was formerly with the planning department way back when. so they've always been kind at accepting requests from and he's been great in keeping us informed. but 19 out of the 29 structures, that's those are a lot of structures that we should at least have provide some level of comment. thank you. commissioner vergara. i just had a question for mr. sucré. if there's anything new on the addition of san francisco

landmarks to the state register of historic resources. sure i've reached out to the shippo or the julie polanco, the california state historic preservation officer. her and her staff are convening right now, and we're hoping to schedule a meeting in the next couple of weeks. great thanks. thank you. and then i wanted to just formally, i guess , do we do we agendize the appointment of commissioner campbell to the arc and have me be removed from that committee? i mean, personally, i don't think that your appointment requires agendizing. i think the city attorney's office has a different opinion. but fortunately we don't. there's no time press so we could agendize it at your next hearing and then make that a point just to make sure that we are formally acknowledging that. thank you. i'm very good commissioners. if there's nothing further, we can move on to item three. remote

public comment. right? so commissioners, as you know, the board of supervisors adopted a resolution ceasing remote public comment in response to some inappropriate remarks they had received. to my surprise, and i think to many surprise, the mayor's office has now instructed all commissioners, commissioner boards and boards to adopt the same policy. and i want to read into the record the email that i received from the mayor mayor's office. the instructions from the mayor's office are that all commissions shall also adopt the board of supervisors. new rule. in other words, no remote public comment except when necessary, to accommodate a disability. this also means that all presenters from departments will need to attend commission meetings in person. there's some other

language, but essentially the mayor's office is instructing us to adopt the same policy. i think the city attorney's office will advise you this is not an ordinance. this is not law. this is and there's no real the commission, the mayor's office didn't really provide us with any reason, although the only reason i can imagine is for there to be consistency throughout the city and county of san francisco as to how we receive public comment. and it would fall in line with invigorating, more public participation in civic center. you know, people walking on the street. and so forth. so i don't have any other information for you. i would i would recommend in this particular instance, we make a motion and take a formal vote. there is no resolution that we that you will be adopting. there was no resolution that you adopted in march when we stopped adopting resolutions for emergency remote public hearings to continue to

remote public comment. so i checked in with the city attorney's office and they feel that that's an appropriate way to go forward if you so choose to. again, i mean, the commission, the mayor's office is language is quite strict in using shall but other ultimately it is still your decision as to how you want to proceed. i do know that the puc the sfmta board, the rec park commission, the health commission among others, are following suit and the planning commission, the planning commission will be taking this matter up tomorrow. and when is this effective? well, it would be effective when you make it effective. so i would. well fortunately, your first hearing, your next hearing is in december. and so after receiving this email, i instructed our notification staff to remove the remote public comment language from all notices. so december would be

the soonest you could you could implement that. so with that, we should probably take public comment. yeah i'd like to hear public comment. my main concern would be for those who have a disability and would not be able to well and how would we know this would not this would not preclude members of the public with disabilities that request advance reasonable accommodation so they would contact my office, my phone number is on the front page of this and the planning commission's agenda, as it has been for since i've been secretary, to contact me directly or they can email me or my staff requesting a reasonable accommodation. and with that i would get their personal information and unmute them and allow them to submit their testimony just for individuals with who acknowledged that they have a disability. but what about those who are maybe elderly and have very little

access to participate? right. well, i think i'll work with the city attorney's office as to what would qualify. i would ask. it's quite honestly impossible for me to determine whether or not the person is being honest with me. right. but but on the other hand, people who are sick with the flu, such as yourselves or with covid today, that's not an appropriate request for a reasonable accommodation. if you had the flu or covid, you would simply miss that hearing. okay so with that, we should open up public comment. members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on this item. again, if you're in the chambers, please come forward. if you're calling in remotely, you need to press star three or raise your hand via webex. seeing no members of the public in the chambers coming forward. let's go to our remote caller.

go ahead. caller. oh, hi. good morning or good afternoon. it's georgia. shirish i hope that you'll consider at least delaying this until the spring. i mean, i know miss triana just said, well, if you had the flu or covid, you'd have to stay home. but it is. we are going into the winter. there's an uptick like you have very a lot of important agen de items coming up that it's good to hear from the public. i think you know what you do is important because the planning commission may do the same thing and they have even more important items coming up on their agenda and i think that you need to hear from as broad a spectrum of the public as possible. i mean, for years i've heard this this line about how only retirees can come down to city hall and speak to the decision makers and maybe

that's true, but now with this remote hearing, which is probably one of the good things that's come out of covid is everyone can speak to you and people that have conflicts of time who you may want to hear from or other responsible parties because they have a phone in their hand and they can call you from wherever. so i hope at least you'll consider delaying it to the spring and set a tone, a good tone for the planning commission as well. since you two have two very specific sick, uh, areas that you deal with that i think they're very important for the future of the city. so that's it. thanks a lot. okay last call for public comment on this item. see no additional requests to speak commissioners public comment is closed. this matter is now before you. thank you, commissioner foley. i i think i

heard what the remote public comment was when board president decided he didn't want to have this happen anymore. and it was pretty terrible. i do believe that if you have a disability or you're a senior, you can't get out of the house. i think that's a reasonable accommodation. i think we should be able to work with the city attorney on that. but i think, you know, outside of that reasonable accommodation for seniors or someone with a disability, we actually should not have remote public comment. that's my personal opinion. thank you, commissioner. right yeah. thank you, president masuda. i just wanted to add my thoughts on this and it is a little confusing to me as jonas also mentioned, but in a way it seems to limit access of the public to preservation and issues that are even maybe broader than preservation around the city. i do understand wanting to reactivate a civic

center in particular, if that is a reason, i don't know if it's appropriate to request reason thing from the mayor's office. so i don't know. in my opinion, i think that continuation of remote public comment would be good. i would add, though, that sometimes it can be hard to understand people who are speaking, you know, on a speaker from home or the speakers in the room, depending on on the speaker and how how clear it is. sometimes it's a little harder to hear. so i think that that's a consideration also. thank you, commissioner nageswaran. i think those are all good points of my fellow commissioners. i i, i do feel like it opens up a broader

base of public comment and especially with various people that working and not being able to be in person in although there are other ways to communicate. but as with letters and emails prior to the hearing and after the hearing, so those are other ways to communicate. but i do feel that vocalizing the opinions or or your public comment is almost is very poignant. but, you know, for each of the issues, i think it it gives a voice to it. and sometimes with emails and letter communicate, it can be repetitive because of form letters and so forth. so it's an interesting conundrum. i think i

would be supportive if remote calling were to continue, but i'd like to hear what other commissioners have to say. commissioner campbell and commissioner vergara, do you have any comments about this. other than to say that if it were put in the form of a motion, i'd vote to go ahead and restrict public remote comment. yeah. i'm a little torn myself because i think we live in a hybrid world now and a lot of people are remote and we are able through the last couple of years, learn to figure out a way to accommodate that. so part of me is pro keeping the call in option as well. however there are workarounds, right? you can always find someone to represent your voice. you can write a letter. this is a tricky one. commissioner foley if i can ask a question to our city attorney

first, whether any commission has just decided to continue remote public comment. and what ramifications would that be for deputy city attorney peter melnick? i'm actually not aware of whether any commissions have decided since the mayor's email to continue remote public comment. that is something we can check on in terms of ramifications is there are none you wouldn't be violating the law by continuing remote public comment within your authority to choose to do so, but you would of course have a public comment procedure that may differ from other commissions and boards in the city. good. thank you. commissioner foley. so i actually believe i would like to see the mayor actually have everyone come back to work. i would like to see people in general come back to work even just four days a week. i actually think people not coming

back to work is destroying the fabric of the retail ground floor and small businesses. and i think it's really hurting young people being mentored. so i'm actually really pro not having this continue except we have a very broad brush stroke around people with disabilities or seniors that can't get out. but i think we actually need to engage again. and i think it's really easy to hide behind a phone. i think it's really easy to hide behind a door. and i think we need to talk about things in person. i think we need to interact. so i make a motion to not have any more public comment, excluding on people with disabilities or seniors that have problems with mobility, remote public comment. is there a second? i'll second that. is there any further deliberation? seeing none. i think there might be. oh i'm

wondering whether we should postpone the vote until we see what other commissions are doing and. that's my only suggestion is that a motion to continue to. yes yes. motion to continue remote public comment. a motion eliminate remote public comment. to well well. all the commissions meet before our next well, maybe just before we get more information from the other commissioners and if any of the commissions are planning to continue remote some commissions meet monthly, some commissions meet bi weekly, some commissions meet, maybe to continue it until next year or whenever we have a full i think, view of what other

commissions want to continue it to. december 6th. i would say continue it to january. is that the third? so january your first hearing in january is the third. and so on december 6th, you'll take up your 2024 hearing schedule. i'm thinking maybe january 3rd might get canceled. being so close to the new year holiday. so if you like, we can continue it to january 17th. motion to continue it to january 17th. is there a sick second? second? okay. because as a procedural matter, it will supersede the motion. to cease

remote public comment. so we'll take up the matter of the continuance first. so on the matter of the continuance, there is a motion that has been seconded to continue to this conversation to january 17th. on that motion, commissioner campbell. yes commissioner vergara no. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner foley i. commissioner warren. yes. and commission president matsuda yes. so move commissioners, that motion passes 5521, with commissioner vergara voting against it to continue this matter to january 17th, at which time we will take up the conversation again. thank you. very good commissioners on that will place us under consideration of items proposed for continuance item for case number 2023. hyphen 000799087 40. tennessee street a certificate of appropriateness is proposed for continuance to december 6th, 2023. further commissioners under your regular calendar staffers requesting a continuance for items six a and

b for case numbers 2022 hyphen 001043. c. a and r at 1737 webster street, you were to consider the certificate of appropriateness and the zoning administrator is here to consider the variance. but now it's being proposed for continuance to december 6th, 2023. as well. i have no other items proposed for continuance. so should we should take public comment. members of the public. this is your opportunity to address the commission on either of these matters. only on the matter of continuance. again, if you're in the chambers, please come forward. if you're calling in remotely, you need to press star three or raise your hand via webex. hi, my name is harlan crystal. i'm the property owner at 1737 webster. i understand the reason for continuance. i accept it. i just wanted to make sure that there isn't any perception at all that we withheld information from our neighbors in any way or didn't communicate with our neighbors. i was surprised. i was very surprised to hear anyone was

having trouble accessing the materials. on monday. and we've done our best to reach out to neighbors. and i just want to make sure i said that. and people didn't have some sort of perception of that. thank you. uh last call for public comment. to be continued. jonas, i have a question. do i need to recuse myself from a continuance? yes, i personally, i don't think you do. but the city attorney is advising that it would be best. so, commissioners, i need to recuse myself from the discussion of a continuance for agenda items six a and b, so we should just take up those two matters separately. okay. so i guess we start with agenda item four. okay motion to continue agenda item for 740 tennessee street. second, thank you, commissioners on that motion to continue item four to december 6th. commissioner campbell yes,

commissioner vergara yes. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner foley aye. and commissioner warren. yes so moved commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 5 to 0 on item six. and so commissioners, i need to recuse myself from items. agenda item six a and b, i'm sorry, commissioner matsuda, on item four. yes, sorry. yes you're within 500ft. so there's really no reason for a vote. so we can just have a motion to continue motion continue. thank you. is there a second? second. thank you, commissioners, on that motion to continue. item six a to december 6th. commissioner campbell. yes. commissioner vergara. yes. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner foley. hi. and commissioner warren. yes. so move commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to 0. zoning administrator would say i will also continue to the variance item under six b to the december 6th hearing. very good commissioners with that. that

will place us under your regular calendar for items five a, b, c and d for case numbers. 2023 hyphen 009850r 2023 hyphen 009851r 2023 hyphen 009852 lbr 2023 hyphen 009853r for the properties at 3,216th street 555 columbus avenue, 840 clement street and 801 tolan street respectively. these are all legacy business registry applications as commissioner. before we begin, i just want to introduce you to two of our new staff that are joining you for the first time, joining us today are will mccullum, who has been working on our district one and two development review team since september of 2023. before joining the department, will was an architectural conservator at architectural resources group where they worked on a conditions assessment report, historic structure reports and repair drawings for landmarks throughout the bay area. also joining us is honora montano,

who has been working on our district three current planning teams, also since september, before joining the department, honora was a planner with the california coastal commission, where she worked on coastal development review and long range planning in the greater bay area. so please welcome them . great. welcome, welcome. hello, commissioners. as elena more planning staff, we have four legacy business application actions before you today. staff will provide their presentations and afterwards business represent natives and members of the public will have a chance to share their stories during public comment. i'll hand it over to lizzie now for our first legacy business. thank you. good afternoon. elizabeth mao planning staff, the first legacy business application we have is for elixir, a 33 year old business operator in the second oldest continuously operated

saloon in san francisco, located at 3,216th street. this saloon has existed since at least 1858 at the time run mostly by irishmen from the predominantly irish community in the mission in 1906, the great earthquake and fire burned the saloon to the ground, but the business owner at the time rebuilt the building right away and reopened the saloon in 1907 during prohibition in the bar room was kept active as a soft drink parlor over the years, the bar's name has changed numerous times and has had over a dozen owners as the bar has been doing business since 1990. as jack's elixir bar. and then just elixir since 2003. elixir is open seven days a week, providing the local community with beverages, community and hospitality in a beautiful victorian atmosphere of mahogany and redwood. the bar offers classic whiskey cocktails as traditional cocktails, beer and wine trivia, happy hour,

industry night ticketed cocktail classes and tasting events for individuals and small groups, private group events, a whiskey geeks membership group and a cocktail club elixir is committed to maintaining being a bar, committed to hospitality community and superior beverages. it's projecting side cabinet hand-carved carved 19th century mahogany back bar and bar assorted san francisco artifacts and historic interior decoration. i'd like to read into the record that they have also stated that they are committed to safeguarding their leaded glass windows staff supports this application and recommends a resolution to add elixir to the legacy business registry. my colleague nora will present next. good afternoon, commissioners. nora montano, planning staff, our second legacy business application is for el palacio, located in north beach on columbus avenue. el palacio is an italian restaurant

with argentinean influence. best known for their grilled chicken. it was opened by husband and wife marta and giuseppe castelo, in the heart of north beach in 1984. today the restaurant is run by marta and giuseppe's daughter and is well known for its generous portions, reasonable prices and family friendly atmosphere. the department is very supportive of the application and supports the resolution in recommending el pollo to the legacy business registry. i will pass it off to will next. good afternoon. will mccallum, planning staff. the third legacy business application today is for heroes club, a 35 year old business that specializes in asian nostalgic science fiction and anime fine art, collectible toys

. robin kwok founder, heroes club. in 1989 and has been custom building, sculpting and painting model kits for several decades. his natural ability in building and airbrush paintings is internationally recognized and has attracted famous patrons , including robin williams, michael jackson and gary medel toro as the only shop in the city that specializes in custom asian nostalgic science fiction and anime fine art collectible toys. heroes club plays an important role for the asian american community in san francisco. introducing and preserving anime culture for the community located on clement street in the inner richmond for 35 years. heroes club is an anchor business for the bustling commercial district. the department is very supportive of this application and supports the resolution recommending the heroes club to the legacy

business registry. i will now hand it over to edgar. good afternoon, members of the commission. edgar oropeza with department staff before you is a request to adopt a resolution recommending friends of scrap for placement on the legacy business registry. friends of scrap located at 801 tolan street is a non profit organized mission whose mission is to inspire creative city and environmental stewardship by promoting the creative reuse of materials that have been traditionally discarded as waste scrap is the nation's oldest creative reuse center and was founded in 1976 by jefferson award winner anne marie thielsen and artist ruth asawa initially to provide resources to the san francisco public school students and teachers. friends of scrap is committed to maintaining in place an industrial warehouse where the general public could go and donate unused items that scrappers recycle into art making supplies place. it's a haven for scrappers filled with treasures and recyclables of

every kind place its retail space. the depot is where teachers and the public could shop for art making materials and attend community workshops. the department recommends that the commission adopt a resolution recommending friends of scrap be adopted by the small commission as into the legacy business registry. this concludes all the legacy business presentations and we're available for public comment. thank. you. very good. with that, we should open up public comment. members of the public. this is your opportunity to address the commission on any of these legacy business registry applications. good afternoon, commissioners. woody labounty from san francisco. heritage of course, we strongly support all of these legacy business applications, but i want to particularly call out two of them that i consider are incredibly unique businesses and really adding to san francisco's cultural vitality. one is scrap,

which i can tell you teachers, friends of mine artists have been using for decades. and it's just an a really an amazing place and a community minded place. you know, sometimes they'll find historic materials and they'll give me a call and say, hey, can you find a good home for this? we have some amazing stuff here. the second is heroes. and what i would have to say is, you know, we feel really good about legacy businesses, but they can also make us feel really old. because remember, when heroes opened and it is an amazing business that is very unique, you're not going to find another place like it. and so it's just a it's a great to see it come up in front of you today. so san francisco heritage recommends all of these. and we thank you for your consideration. thank you. good afternoon. president matsuda and commissioners kelly growth with supervisor chan's office

speaking in support of item five sea heroes club supervisor chan was very honored to nominate heroes club as a legacy business, which has been on clement street since 1989 and specializes in asian nostalgic science fiction and anime fine art collectible toys. robin kwok has shared his talent, artistry and passion for anime and science fiction with the community and we are fortunate that the store has continued to carry on as a local treasure through jimmy wong's ownership. with that, we ask for your support. thank you. thank you. please hi, good afternoon. thank you very much. the historic preservation commission to have the opportunity to speak on behalf of scrap. my name is felipe colina. i'm the director of operations. first, i'd like to thank rick for working with us and producing such a wonderful narrative that captures scraps, history in the city. i would also like to thank

supervisor shaman walton and his staff for his support. i would also like to thank the very recent comments from the historic from from the heritage commission about scraps, importance. so as was mentioned, scrap was founded close to 50 years ago by jefferson award winner anne marie thelen with the support of artist ruth asawa , who was our board president. for many years. they were passionate about supporting arts education for the children and students of san francisco. and in the 70s, they took that initiative of to put artists back to works to divert art materials and supplies from the waste stream and to put them to good use at affordable prices. this mission is still relevant and perhaps even more relevant today as scrap continues to support and foster the cultural fabric of san francisco. this year, we will welcome 30,000 visits from students, artists, teachers and individuals of all

walks of life. that want to express themselves creatively. i personally invite you to come to scrap in the bayview with your families and neighbors. you will really, really enjoy it and find something special. moreover, we will divert 300 tons of materials that could have gone to the landfill and our arts enrichment programs will reach over 1000 students in the south east part of san francisco, where the need is greatest. thank you very much for your support. once again. best thank you. okay seeing no additional members of the public in the chambers, let's go to our remote caller. go ahead, caller. call your line has been unmuted. hello? can you hear me? can you

hear me? yes, we can. hi, this is h. joseph erman. i'm the owner of elixir. um, i wanted to thank you all for putting our business forward and considering this, and i'd like to thank senator scott wiener for recommending me when he was supervisor and apologizing for letting this sit on my desk for so many years and supervisor mandelman for supporting us. but i just wanted to say that i'm very proud to own this piece of san francisco history. and i've poured 20 years into researching that history continually building upon it, including some stuff i stumbled upon yesterday and that i will continue to be an active member of the community and develop the story of this historic spot as i go forward and doing whatever i can to be more involved and continue to be involved in the city. beyond all of that have done and all of this time. so also let

you know that i'm available for any questions if anybody wanted to reach out to me. thank you very much. okay. last call for public comment, seeing no additional requests to speak, commissioner's public comment is closed. this matter, these items are now before you. thank you, commissioner foley. so i think we all up here love this, love this legacy business. it and i continue to repeat myself a lot around the fabric of the community. but i never knew about scrap. and i'm going to take my on you. i am a terrible by the way, i'm a terrible human being because of that. and i recognize it. so i will be taking my son there, who's a 16 year old artist, and he's a fabulous young man. so i really appreciate hearing about scrap heroes. i never knew about that. so i take another hit of being a terrible human being. i will be taking my son there to elixir. i have drank there. thank you very much. i think we all understand that i'm a good drinker and for the food of polio, i've been

there too. i actually live not too far from there and i eat there. so thank you very much, all of you. really appreciate you and rick and woody labounty and heritage really appreciate the work you do. so thank you very much. thank you, commissioner. right. yes. thank you. i want to thank all of the businesses who are who have undergone this application process. we really appreciate you. the i feel like i repeat myself a lot as well. but these businesses is the legacy businesses of san francisco are the backbone of our community city, our neighborhood boards, our city and i am actually familiar with elixir and with scrap. my office is donated. but i. i have not been there, so i'm excited to come see the space and i'm now also excited to visit palio and the hero's club.

so thank you very much. thank you, commissioner campbell. i just want to say, i just want to say i concur with my fellow commissioners in your sentiment. great commissioner rivera, any comments? yes just such a diversity of businesses just like san francisco. and it's just wonderful that the owners of these businesses care that much to go through the trouble of that long application in form. and it's just wonderful that that they represent san francisco as well as they do. they have a good advisor. mr. carrillo, thank you very much for always being the advocate and supporting and really highlighting the richness of these stories as, as the commissioner said, this is my favorite part of our job as the historic preservation commission. i have not been to

elixir, but i would love to go with you. commissioner foley, one day i really think that we need to. i don't know how we could do it, but because this is a the, the second oldest saloon, right, or the spot of an oldest saloon since 1858, i think the oldest saloon came before us. is that right, mr. sucker? yeah the oldest. and now we're dealing with the second oldest. but if there's some way we can continue to highlight them or that history as well as the current owners of the businesses, that would be great. and i don't know how to go about that, but it it just makes that story much more richer for particular for that space. and then i love the slogan of delicious grilled chicken marked with love. that's that's going to go far. and i'm definitely going to check that out. but i'm japanese american, so i grew up with gazeta and i grew up knowing this thing that

probably ruth asawa always talked about, called motto nai. it's a japanese term that you don't waste. and so i have gone to scrap a lot, got donated as well as received. and i'm not an artist, but i love dealing with different kinds of things and scrap is the place where it allows me to affordably afford to do that. so thank you all for your hard work and we hope that you will continue. and then mr. sucker, these are really unique, intangible types of businesses. i'm just wondering, like looking on to maybe the next phase of how we can continue to support and preserve them that we need to start kind of going along the conversation of our culture district discussion, how we can start to really think about these intangible assets that we have that don't fall into particular our nice categories. so thank you, commissioner burger did you have something? there was an article in either

the chronicle or maybe sf standard a week ago about the legacy business program that there isn't there is no longer money for our plaques, that from now on legacy businesses will have to pay for their own plaques. is there anything that we can do about that that i don't know, getting the plaques up that are up now took a long time. okay. right and i think that i think that the small office of small business or i don't know, mr. carrillo could speak to this, but i think there had to had to have some choices made whether we support them monetarily or no or acknowledge them visibly. i'm not sure. but i would think that that was one of the decision making processes that went through. commissioner foley. and i didn't want to speak for you, mr. carrillo. if you want to add to that. so i'm going to be on my bandwagon here. mr. carrillo, on all the information you have for the legacy businesses. is it digital? can you could we access it via via digital planning

staff is nodding their head. they're the team digital. richard carrillo legacy business program manager. are you referring to the applications themselves? those are all online for sure. or actually just all the information behind the applications. i mean, really talking about what the business is, what they do for the community. i think most of what they provide to me ends up in the application. jones so that's the crux of the, you know, the information that we have. i mean, we used to ask the applicants to provide us with lots of stuff, and we simplified the application and we just try to find things online and whatever we can find online, we ask them for. so some of the older applications, we have a lot more in our files, but over the last couple of years we've we have just pretty much what you see is what we get. um, could i ask planning staff a quick question? elena more so is there a way if we were able to

get a qr code because we know that's my like little thing. i love. is there a way we get a qr code for legacy businesses they can put on legacy business and that could actually link up the information that you all have in your in your database. is there any is there something we could do there? and we don't have to make a decision today. but i think it'd be really interesting way we can't get them a plaque. how can we let these people know when they're walking by that it is a legacy business. there's all this history and it's the old second oldest bar and you should go drink there now, right there is a little seal right? our decals. is that correct? mr. carrillo? they do get their legacy business seal. yeah which is, i think, an important icon for people to notice and acknowledge. but just something to think about. if we could add a qr code to that seal someday or to think about it, that'd be great. yeah. elena mora, planning staff, all of the application material is linked online on xfm and so we have that link and it's publicly accessible and that has the application material with all the photos, histories about those. so we could definitely

translate that into qr code format. i'm just not sure what the procedure would be with display that, but it could be made into a qr code. yes. commissioner foley this is a long standing recommendation from a previous commissioner. in fact, commissioner, former commissioner pearlman would made, made the same recommendation after visiting, i believe it was philadelphia where they have a self walking tour where members of the public could simply tag something and they would get a rich history without having to formally go on a tour. just walking through the city. i think it's an extremely excellent idea. it just takes some funding and some wherewithal to make it happen. and it doesn't seem like it'd be too difficult. but i'm going to continue to push this rock up the hill. commissioner, secretary, i commend you. i appreciate your support. but what you couldn't do now is you can go to the legacy business, the small business, and hit the

little flags and get information . and then you also have a categorized right. which is what i usually do. again, richard, legacy business program manager. so yes, we do have a website. we have the legacy business program website, which is.gov/legacy business. but we have the legacy business registry website that you're referring to, which is legacy business dot org. and you can we have a spotlight business on the front page and then we see you can go to the registry page and you can click on the business. you can also sort them by neighborhood or business type or business name or any combination of the three. and then we have press on that website as well. yeah, i if i can handle it, i know you can handle it. and then to answer your question about the budget, yeah, we do have some budget restriction, especially with some of the budget cuts that have occurred. you know, this fiscal year and expected over the next fiscal year. so we've

been really concentrating on doing things that showcase legacy businesses without spending a lot of time or money. so we have a partnership with sf heritage. we have a heritage happy hour every second thursday of the month from 5 to 7 at different legacy businesses, bars. um, we are we did the plaques we have 50 of those 45 are up we also are doing a passport promotion so we're working on that. we have 71 businesses that are interested. so people can go around and get stamps at the different businesses and maybe we'll have gifts that we can give to people who get 25 or 50 out of the 70, 71. and then i think there's a few other promotions that we're working on. we definitely have on our to do list qr codes, you know, on our wish list of projects and we haven't forgotten about that. so i think

that's a really good idea. but yeah, we are really trying to we also have perfect legacy business days that we just started doing in june. so we have about six neighborhoods now and spend a whole day in chinatown or north beach or castro in our sunset mission section. and there's one more. so yeah, so we're going to be doing union square in december trying to showcase different neighborhoods as we get enough legacy businesses in those neighborhoods to showcase them. what was the event that you had at anchor bar? that is our annual legacy business mixer that's in may. that was great. i highly recommend the commissioners attend that. wonderful. and we all got a mug. if we don't do that, we'll we'll have a heritage happy hour that month. so one one way or the other, we will definitely do something on that second thursday in may for sure. okay. don't forget us. i definitely will not. thank you, commissioner. right yes. i was

just going to i think it was all kind of mentioned now, but repeat that, that it's all on the website that that was just mentioned and that i believe it's you can map it to. right. or is there a map that with pins . yeah. on the registry web legacy business star org you can go to the registry page and all the businesses are shown on a map so you can click on it's a little torch from our logo and you can click on the torch and the business information pops up. there's also a description and you can click on a link that also goes to the legacy business registry application on. so you can see everything about the business. great, great. yeah. so we're, we're getting there. but the, the qr code is, is a good push. and i guess just need to get this legacy business dot org out to a broader audience. so hopefully those who are listening today can spread the

word. yes. thank you. commissioner nageswaran. i'm not a technical expert, but since you already have a website with the map and the information on it, is there a way to make just a printable template that says this is a legacy business and has a qr code that links to your website and then they can see see all the businesses include the one that they're standing in front of. so the point of, you know, commissioner foley's comment is when you're standing in front of a business and they have a sign that says this is a legacy business and you see that they have qr code or website, then they can go to that website . and it's even more fruitful to have all of them on there. and then they can click on the one that they're at, but also see the other ones. and it's a simple thing like just that one qr code to your website. that's it. i think it's a good idea.

yeah yeah. so that would be just a start that they can just if you have like a graphic that you can create and then all the legacy businesses just need to print that out and put it on their window or whatnot. right? so our goal is to do our passport promotion for small business month, which is may. so then maybe after that, you know, it's definitely on our to do list for sure. great. thank you commissioner. right. did you have. yeah, i forgot to say one thing and that that is that i know that there is definitely value in advertising and getting the word out for the businesses but in terms of spending money on plaques, it would be great if you know whatever resources are available and possible to actually direct to the businesses. as you know, that's a considered option too. thank you, commissioners. do i hear a motion? i'll make that motion to approve all four businesses.

second thank you, commissioners. if there's nothing further, there is a motion that has been that has been seconded to adopt recommendations for approval on that motion. commissioner campbell yes. commissioner vergara yes. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner foley i. commissioner warren. yes. and commissioner. president matsuda yes. so move commissioners. that motion passes unanimously. 6 to 0 commissioners that will place us as item six a and b have been continued. that will place us on item seven for case number 2023. hyphen 008267d is for the grand theater at 2665 mission street. this is a landmark designation. good afternoon, commissioners. palala valley department staff. before i start my presentation, which will take me a minute because i have to load the slides, is anna herrera from supervisor ronan's office, who sponsored the who initiated this landmark designation is here to say a few words. good afternoon,

commissioners. anna herrera. i'm here from supervisor ronan's office in district nine. i will be very brief today. my goal is simply highlight supervisor ronan's strong support for recognizing this historic theater in the mission for landmark status. although planning staff's report notes that the grand theater does not does not address underrepresented landmark types prioritized by the commission in. it's important to note that the location of the theater in the mission corridor and the veinticuatro cultural district are significant as the theater and its marquee are a treasured community asset and have been % for decades, going back to its days operating as a single screen movie theater for working class families in the neighborhood. we're really grateful to the gray area non profit digital arts organization that's been in the space for nearly ten years and has been a

great steward of the grand theater and most recently crowdfunded over $50,000 to reignite the grand theater's neon marquee sign. so it would be really great to keep the momentum going for the grand theater with your support for landmarking status today. thank you to planning staff and barry through and the rest of the gray area team. thank you. good afternoon again commissioners pillar of the valley department staff. as you've heard before you the item is the item before you is consideration of landmark recommendation for designation of grand theater in the mission district. and yes, grand theater design led by two extremely well renowned theater architects, was constructed in 1940, the last movie theater built in san francisco prior to world war two. the grand theater was the

youngest and most southernmost of the theaters that compose the former mission, miracle mile theater district, one of the city's most important theater districts. it operated as a single screen theater from 1940 through 1988, from the early 1990s to 2014, when it operated as a discount retail store. and then since 2014, gray area has occupied the building. grand theater is historically significant for its association with the city's network of neighborhood theaters, particularly the concentration of movie theaters in the mission district during the early to mid 20th century. and is an invaluable part of our cultural heritage. grand theater is also architecture significant as it embodies the distinctive characteristics of a large scale streamline moderne building with notable neon sign marquee and is also representative of the work of two architects of merit g.

albert landsberg and s charles lee, both of whom were best known for their theater designs. the department believes that the grand theater meets established eligibility requirements and that landmark status is warranted, although altered, the building when the building was converted to retail use, it retains sufficient physical integrity to convey architectural and historical significance. character defining features representative of this significance, including interior features that were historically publicly accessible, have been included in the draft ordinance in your packets. the department recommends that the hpc approve the commission approve the recommendation for landmark designation, which will be forwarded to the board of supervisors. that concludes my presentation and i'm happy to answer any questions and i believe barry through the executive director of gray area, is also here to provide comments . thank you. okay okay. with

that. good afternoon, commissioners. my name is barry through. i'm the executive director of gray area foundation for the arts. we're a 15 year old non profit cultural center and have called the grand theater our home for the past nine years in in 2014, we renovated the grand theater from a discount convenience store to return it to its original usage as a cultural resource, removing linoleum and obstructions to reveal important architectural features and this year, relighting the original neon signage for the first time in 40 years, the grand is one of the most versatile and accessible spaces in the county quattro cultural district, where this year we hosted over 100 events, including our own film performance art, education and exhibition events, welcoming over 40,000 members of the public as well as events for many local community organizations. the unique

architectural features of this building give it a character in life that greatly enhance its value as a community space for us. this year we paid over 1.8 million to 93 underrepresented or marginalized artists, and according to american for the arts, latest economic prosperity calculator, our cultural usage of the grand theater generates 137 jobs 7 million in local household income and $240,000 in local tax revenue. given the other historic mission street theaters conversion into parking lots are remaining vacant. we believe that this landmark designation is vital to protecting this cultural resource and our usage. we hope to remain at steward for years to come and so support this designation to ensure its continued future for the cultural enrichment of san francisco. thank you to supervisor ronan's office and a herrera and planning staff, especially pilar lavalle, for the work that's gone into this application. thank you. thank you. okay we should open up

public comment. members of the public. this is your opportunity to address the commission on this matter. good afternoon. woody labounty from san francisco. heritage this gentleman just explained why these theaters are so important and why they are not obsolete as cultural centers. we talked about the alexandria theater in the past and the clay theater, and you'll often hear as they come before you that, oh, people don't go to movies anymore. therefore, you need to let us turn this into a retail space or tear down that blade sign. well here is an excellent example of the economic benefits and the cultural benefits that these old movie houses still can bring to the city. and we very much support and aid. and lord, this landmark nomination. thank you. thank you. last call for public

comment. if you're in the chambers, please come forward. if you're calling in remotely, you need to press star three or raise your hand via webex. seeing no request to speak public comment is closed and this item is now before you commissioners, commissioners. it's a great project. commissioner foley you know, when i when you first started speaking about what you did there and you started talking about taking up linoleum, it reminded me of taking up linoleum at a church that i renovated and, and, you know, it's a pretty grim when you start that process. but i want to applaud what you've done. and i think the metrics that you actually brought to the table are are stunning. and so i applaud you. and it's really amazing what you're doing there. and it's going to be amazing as you continue your journey there. it's a it's a very arduous task to restore a building like that. and then activate it. so thank you very much. thank you, commissioner. right yeah. i just want to echo that and say that to me. it's a slam dunk. the use

of as a cultural center is so important to the reuse of the building and to the neighborhood. um and i think it would be great to share for as much as we can the economic benefits calculator information that you're using with other businesses, um, other theaters, but other businesses around san francisco. so, um, and then just from a strict preservation, an landmarks perspective, i totally support this is great good comments. do i hear a motion or any other comments from the commission motion to approve. second very good commissioners. if there's nothing further, there's a motion that has been seconded to adopt a recommendation for approval on that motion. commissioner campbell yes. commissioner vergara yes. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner foley i. commissioner warren. yes and

commissioner. president matsuda yes. so move commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 and will place this on the final item on your agenda today. number eight, case number 2023 hyphen 00674. four days for the westwood park entrance, gateway and pillars at the intersection of miramar avenue and monterey boulevard boulevard. and miramar avenue and ocean avenue. and judson avenue. and frida way. this is also a landmark designation. thank you. sorry about that. hi, commissioners. the valley department staff. again, this was, i believe, jen lowe from, um, supervisor melgar's office is going to be speaking, but i don't think she's arrived yet, so let me just pull up my presentation and i will go

ahead. and then she can. good afternoon, commissioners. delilah valley department staff. as i mentioned, this this landmark designation was initiated by the board at supervisor melgar's request. and the item before you today is consideration of recommendation for landmark designation of westwood park entrance, gateway and pillars in the westwood park neighborhood. these features constructed. in 1916 for westwood park developers baldwin and howell are eligible for local designation for association with the development of san francisco's residence

parks in the early 20th century. the westwood park entrance, gateway and pillars located in the public rights of way were designed by renowned architect louis christian mullgardt. and they also have architectural significance as examples of public landscape features common to residents. park developments and is instances of work of an architect of merit. there are further significant as visual landmarks associated with the westwood park neighborhood. the department believes that westwood park entrance, gateway and pillars meet established eligibility requirements and that landmark status is warranted. although altered, these landscape features retain sufficient physical integrity to convey significance character defining features. representative of the significance have been included in the draft ordinance in your packets. the department recommends that the commission approve the recommendation for landmark designation, which will be forwarded to the board that

is the end of my presentation. i'm happy to answer questions. my presentation is short because members of the westwood park homeowners who have are the proponents of this designation also have a presentation with slides. i believe kathleen was going to be remote. i have her slides and i can bring those up if she is ready to present. um she's got like three different entries here. sir, could you raise one hand, please? uh, kathleen? so that i can unmute you. very good. through the chair. you have five minutes. yes. okay. the slides are up. go ahead. can you hear me? yes we can. thank you. i'm kathleen

vedic with the westwood park association. sorry, association. and i know we have a limited time, so let's move through to kathleen. i'm going to pause your time here for a second. you should mute your computer so that we don't get the echo. so mute my. oh, okay. yeah, yeah, yeah. is that better? no, i don't know if it's better, but go ahead. oh oh, i think it's because you've got multiple all devices device is logged into this but go ahead. um sorry. let's see. oh, yeah, i get that many. is there anything else i can mute for? well, why don't i try kicking you out? okay. okay

go ahead. okay. yes okay, great. uh i'll try to run through this very quickly. um, the image you see on the screen at this point is a 1919 map of westwood park. uh, the entrance gates. there were two sets were built at miramar avenue, and monterey boulevard at the top. and ocean avenue. and miramar avenue at the bottom, the ocean avenue gates, unfortunately, are no longer in existence. um, the real estate firm of baldwin and howell in. 1916 developed this forest neighborhood as a lot of residence parks for middle class san franciscans. bungalow homes were very popular in the late 1800s, early 1900s. and the

developers designated about 700 lots for the new bungalows in westwood park, more than 650 homes were built. in addition to businesses on the north side of ocean. um, today, westwood park is considered one of the largest bungalow communities on the west coast. number slide three. this is looking south from the westwood park entrance gates down miramar avenue from, um, monterey boulevard. it's westwood park is one of 36 residents. parks proposed or built in san francisco from 1905 to 1924. one of the elements of a residence park was not only a park like setting, but also the inclusion of visual landmarks such as fountains, benches, statues and grand entrance arches. um number four is a, um, is a view of the westwood park entrance gates looking north on miramar avenue toward monterey boulevard. the next slide,

number five is a close up view of the entrance gates on miramar and monterey boulevard. number six is this is renowned architect louis christian mullgardt, who designed the westwood park entrance gates in 1916. just a quick summary about mullgardt. he was hired to design the westwood park entrance gate pillars and 128 street lamps and among other things, mullgardt was one of the principal architects of the 1915 panama pacific international exposition. the 1919 redesign of the deyoung museum and the infant shelter at ortega in 19th avenue, which is now a private french school. and it's also a san francisco landmark number 242. he was a renowned architect of the era of the era. number seven, this is a 1920s brochure

photo of the entrance gates at miramar avenue and ocean avenue, which unfortunately no longer exist. just, um, the. they were victims. we think of, quote, modern upgrades and an increase in traffic. number eight is a construct photo and sutro forest of the from a 1916 neighborhood brochure showing the miramar avenue and monterey boulevard entrance gates being built. number nine. this is the pedestrian crossing at the westwood park entrance gates located in miramar avenue and monterey boulevard. and number ten picture here is one of the two barrel vaulted portals with the curved wrought iron grille and lamps mounted above. as you can see, the lamps are mounted at the top of the connected pillars of each portal. in 2000

2003, the westwood park association received a restoration grant for the monterey boulevard entrance gates and surviving pillars from city beautiful. the westwood park association contributed to the total cost of the restoration, which came to about $50,000. number 11, this is an example of one of the four surviving freestanding westwood park pillars. number 12. um i wanted to just quickly, it's probably not a lot of time, but quickly throw in a quote from jane jacob, who in her book the death and life of great american cities. she wrote, not all city landmarks are buildings, however. buildings are the principal landmarks in cities. and the principles which make them well or ill apply also to most other kinds of landmarks, such as monuments, dramatic fountains and so on. thank you very much. thank you. okay, we

should open up public comment, members of the public. this is your opportunity to address the commission. good afternoon, commissioners. i'm jen lowe. i'm chief of staff to supervisor myrna melgar. we are the sponsor of this resolution of intent to landmark the westwood park entrance and pillars. and we really would appreciate your consideration. in district seven is home to so many of these historic structures that have their original integrity and wonderful features. and unfortunately, we don't have that many landmarks. and that's something that we would like to change because we want to be able to celebrate some of the unique history of our resident parks and resident parks and other types of neighborhood characteristics that make san francisco, san francisco. and we're really appreciative of the westwood park homes association for bringing this to our attention. they do walking tours for many of our visitors that

just don't know many of the residential neighborhoods on the west side of san francisco. we welcome you to come and visit anytime and we hope we can do more of these landmark things and really would appreciate your consideration today. really appreciate also the planning staff's wonderful report on this as well. thank you. thank you. good afternoon, commissioners. woody labounty from san francisco heritage. we support this landmark initiation. i don't know if you've had a chance to see these there. you have to kind of be on monterey boulevard going maybe to saint francis wood or west portal or cutting the other direction, but they're worth a visit to walk around. i really do wish that the barrel vaulting had the sort of hanging roses and vines that i think were intended by mullgardt originally. and i just want to make a quick pitch. i know there's a residence parks context statement that i hope is getting closer to being brought

before the commission on and also lastly, want to applaud supervisor melgar for bringing this forward and for the inclination to find more landmarks to designate in district seven. there's a lot of them. thank you. okay. last call for public comment. you need to raise your hand via webex or press star three. seeing no additional requests. oh yeah. no seeing. no additional requests to speak. commissioners public comment is closed in. this matter is now before you. great. thank you. commissioner vergara. it's just amazing to consider how vast sutro forest used to be extending all the way to ocean avenue back in the olden days. i would like the record to reflect that the otherwise very thorough and excellent history of the entrance gateway and pillars that's in the proposal we

received. it does leave out this ugly little episode in 1920 when the developers and residents of westwood park and westwood highlands and saint francis would ganged up on the good people of the sunnyside district and forced them to accept the name change of sunnyside avenue to monterey boulevard. but i'll overlook that, and i'll support this proposal. commissioner argus warren i was very pleased to see that the within the racial and social equity analysis that included the history of the exclusionary policies of these residents, parks and not, you know, my take on this is that we ought to learn from history and i think a lot of people shy away from hearing the broader history because they think that people

are being punished again or something or another. but it's the history is the history. if we don't remember it, it will repeat itself. if we don't learn from it, it will repeat itself. so for, you know, what we've you know what the planning department has done in terms of, you know, identifying racial and social equity issues. it is fantastic to see the broader histories of these places as i think the architecture in itself is fantastic. to see how these places develop. i would love to see, you know, along along with the racial and social equity portion of the case report, it also includes under events, crime area, a the description of that as well, which is fantastic . i would love to see in just

the general description in the case report kind of giving us an update on what is the diversity of that area today. okay. and how has it developed? because the architecture stands there, a sort of independent of the socio obviously the social, economic, you know, has a part to do in it. but it stands there as a remnant, a remnant and a remembrance of a particular time . and it's it would be nice to see that it has developed into this multicultural area. i think that's an important thing for, you know, supervisor melgar and also the, you know, neighborhood in general to see how it's developed and that improvements are being made and that these

are things that we've all benefited from in in having more diversity. so i thank you for the well-written report and support this designation. thank you. commissioner wright yeah, i just want to say that i support all of what commissioner nagasawa just said. commission commissioner vergara you know, it's interesting. two years ago i researched the house that i live in in the sunnyside district, and that was never a fancy neighborhood from the very beginning. unlike saint francis, even that even my home, the homes in sunnyside had restricted racial covenants, which was a revelation to me. we actually study that at my school in our ethnic studies class. and so again, also second, what you said, commissioner. yeah. i also want to thank you for bringing that up. and i was going to bring up that point because when i read that it wasn't until 1992

that the racial covenants were finally removed. that was not that long ago. and i think to you have a clearly stated it in your report. but i also think maybe to even see those covenants out and see how it has moved from what it was to what it is now and then as commissioner warren said, the community, the diverse community that is there today really shows that san francisco has come a long way in terms of starting to achieve social and racial equity . i do think as commissioner nagaswaram pointed out, that you cannot hide history. history is a fact and we need to learn from it. and in order to learn from it is to really see the raw documents that were published at that time. so thank you for doing this. thank you, supervisor melgar, for bringing it to our attention. and i think we are all supportive of this. if i hear a motion motion to

approve second, very good commissioners, there is a motion that has been seconded to adopt a recommendation for approval on that motion. commissioner campbell yes. commissioner vergara yes. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner foley high commissioner warren yes. and commissioner. president matsuda yes. so moved commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 and concludes your hearing today. thank you.

>> we are right now in outer richmond in the last business area of this city. this area of merchants is in the most western part of san francisco, continue blocks down the street they're going to fall into the pacific ocean. two blocks over you're going to have golden gate park. there is japanese, chinese, hamburgers, italian, you don't have to cook. you can just walk up and down the street and you can get your cheese. i love it. but the a very multicultural place with people from everywhere. it's just a wonderful environment. i love the richmond district. >> and my wife and i own a café we have specialty coffee drinks, your typical lattes and mochas and cappuccinos, and for

lunches, sandwiches and soup and salad. made fresh to order. we have something for everybody >> my shop is in a very cool part of the city but that's one of the reasons why we provide such warm and generous treats, both physically and emotionally (♪♪) >> it's an old-fashioned general store. they have coffee. other than that what we sell is fishing equipment. go out and have a good time. >> one of my customers that has been coming here for years has always said this is my favorite store. when i get married i'm coming in your store. and then he in his wedding outfit and she in a beautiful dress came in here in between getting married at lands end and to the reception, unbelievable.

(♪♪) >> the new public health order that we're announcing will require san franciscans to remain at home with exceptions only for essential outings. >> when the pandemic first hit we kind of saw the writing on the walls that potentially the city is going to shut all businesses down. >> it was scary because it was such an unknown of how things were going to pan out. i honestly thought that this might be the end of our business. we're just a small business and we still need daily customers. >> i think that everybody was on

edge. nobody was untouched. it was very silent. >> as a business owner, you know, things don't just stop, right? you've still got your rent, and all of the overhead, it's still there. >> there's this underlying constant sense of dread and anxiety. it doesn't prevent you from going to work and doing your job, it doesn't stop you from doing your normal routine. what it does is just make you feel extra exhausted. >> so we began to reopen one year later, and we will emerge stronger, we will emerge better as a city, because we are still here and we stand in solidarity with one another. >> this place has definitely been an anchor for us, it's home

for us, and, again, we are part of this community and the community is part of us. >> one of the things that we strived for is making everyone in the community feel welcome and we have a sign that says "you're welcome." no matter who you are, no matter what your political views are, you're welcome here. and it's sort of the classic san francisco thing is that you work with folks. >> it is your duty to help everybody in san francisco.

i need to go add a practice session moments. billy and then we'll get started. so. hello. hello there we go. we're going out of practice session now, and recording has started. and it's 204. thank you. oh good afternoon and welcome to the meeting of the arts commission on monday, november the sixth, 2023. i'm calling this meeting to order by asking a call of the roll from chief of staff gentry. president collins, present vice president shiota is absent. commissioner beltran present commissioner benavidez present. commissioner brunzell here. commissioner carney is absent. commissioner ferrise.