2023.) >> sheriff's department oversight board and it is 2:04 p.m. and ready to begin. >> displacing would you library to let the public know. >> okay. >> oh, sorry. >> i just oh. okay i'll let you, you know, that we have the state water control board and thank you, staff for providing technical assistance to

broadcast and monitoring tonight's meeting and this is on channel 26 please stand to recite the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> thank you. >> jan please call the roll. >> board member afuhaamango present. >> board member brookter present. >> vice president carrion is asked to be excused. >> board member wechter and borad member palmer has asked to be skewed. >> board member wechter that running late we have quorum. >> thank you a possession to motion to excuse vice president

carrion and borad member palmer do we have a second a new objection. >> the admission is approved unanimously. >> danny announcements. >> yes. madam president. the board of supervisors bio by construction of mayor to promote public comment has public comment has board will attend this meeting in-person. members of the public are invited to observe the meeting in-person or remotely online as described below. the public can address the meetings reasonable accommodation, only members of the public attending the meeting in person will have an opportunity to provide public comment. opportunities to speak are available for members of the public who are present by lining up against the far wall. >> you have two minutes to provide public comment the first

tone will alert you 30 seconds to complete your comment and the second tone your two minutes are up. >> please call the first >> please call the first agenda. >> minutes from the sheriff's department oversight board regular meeting held on november 3, 2023. >> motion to approve minutes. >> do i have a second? >> second. >> public comment, no. >> members of the public who would like to make public comment on this line up against the far wall or approach the podium. >> appears no public comment. >> call the roll, please. >> the roll on the adoption ofiness. >> board member afuhaamango, aye. >> board member brookter, aye.

>> board member nguyen, aye. >> president soo, aye. >> motion passes. the minutes ferry november that are adopted. >> next item >> next item on the agendas. >> >> >> >> from nick gregoratos, director of prisoner legal services (pls), on what his department does for incarcerated individuals. >> good afternoon. i'm nick gregoratos, director of prisoner legal services (pls). >> here is melinda another attorney in our offers and this is asia who is our paralegal we put together a power point over there i can't see my phone and a quick presentation on what we do that will cover- a brief

introduction a short history and with with where we are to have the contraction a few challenges and open up for questions. >> thank you. >> so here we go we have put together this is in front of you; correct? i don't know we has and history i don't know know if you have the history not testing you but put together about 10 or 12 years ago and covers back we think that is good reading so we thought you might like that the legal services was started by the sheriff prior to becoming sheriff and became sheriff in 77

and got funding and when we always had to report since we had three sheriff's and they supported us in 2019 and viki adopted a policy and codified your position in the depth department and city and that's where we're at to assist the sheriff and do that and helping people and the issues they deal with the things and i were in touch but unfortunately, the population didn't have the wherewith all. >> we make sure that every incarcerated person has been

bought to the court that is y why we're here our main mission and provided the mission material not only about a divorce on that level they understand your case matter. >> they all have public defenders and attorneys the attorneys only have so much time one hundred and fifty people on the caseload we will let you know what that is. we provide access to the administrative and legal remedies and they're guarantee for the right to the information and when the oig starts and assist with barriers to reentry with people released and driver's license anything

may help them stay out of jail and get their lives back we help the sheriff objective with his mission and the treatment of people in the jails. >> we fit in and under sheriff's legal a direct line we can talk to the sheriff 2340i789 we want for the trying to bother him, too of but go through the regular chain of command we work with the chain of command but have direct line to the sheriff if we see a problem we are allowed to bring it directly to him and not through the chain. >> what makes us different [off mic.] >> we won't go there (laughter) what makes us different access to all jail facilities and times

in the middle of night in we choose and have records and consumerized records if there's a problem in the jail somebody is not identity in time the attorney calls us and instead of having to be a senior deputy we can skirt all that and figure out what the needs are and call the court to help anti this is who we are you met us so move on. (laughter). >> um, like i would early we direct the services and have services to the sheriff's office and assists the community and the created people are helped with the remedies with the dpa eventually the oig. claims

against the city other kinds of administrative grieves we'll help them in getting access to that right and give them forms and materials to anything we want to file that is happy birthday corpus what we have they want to file we try to direct them the best we can. >> and a long process we'll include legal fee research we don't analysis the form but we show historically we run libraries and staffing and like i said, we give help them correspond with elected officers and government officers as needed. um, we do a lot of support for pro-per for

prisoners to represent themselves and most of our services are a large chunk of one wall of our office and flyers we have hundreds of information that we developed over the past 20 odd years if you have a question an burglaries whatever we have information if we don't we'll put it together for people to understand what is going on. >> and again, i talked about barriers to re-entry we helped thousands of people and asian had a large chunk for someone that who were broke we wrote and check and they'll have their agreement. we help with

evictions and don't represent them if they need an attorney we get them one if they're ejected we support that lease of the property and make an agreement no eviction on their record and make arrangements for the people to move their property help in custody and child support and facilitate marriages we do all that. >> we daily with the power of attorney benefits and help them collect settlements. >> one or more interesting one we recently started if their in custody prisoners have been arrested frustrated individuals get arrested an animal goes to animal control. any time for a

long time animal control sent a letter to their address and the person responds in a number of weeks and unfortunately their dog can adopted. and send us angler and the dog we get the paper signed and the animal is able to be um, home with something else and not up for adoption a good part about that is when people come to jail their stressed and a lot of going on. above and beyond just the case they're facing and people love their animals and they're nervous and don't want to listen to the deputies they

on the want to get their animal back it helps the jail if someone is stressed can cause problems with other inmates the deputies will try to remove all those barriers with the real estate problems we help the court says someone a has 9 three days time served and it is transposed on the record of 39 days we figure that out and see what is wrong maybe warrants in the counties in the warrants are not valid we get that taken care of and so many warrants and people in every county is different 50 odd counties so

sometimes people oh, that warrant is good turns out not good and a lot of back and forth we are better at it than we should be because we've done it so many times. >> we always registration people to vote in 2003 started a voting actually started that for the prisoners in the jail incarcerated individual. in 2006 secretary of state made it known. and then in 2016, a lawsuit was filed from a plaintiff in the county jail and stays throughout the state and a lot more people can vote they

used to in a felony conviction will never vote again but now in 2020 almost everybody in the county can vote. >> our programs in 2004 we have a very close partnerships with the department of corrections and last year gave us pods and their ballot into the pod the way we work we walk them through the jail and so glad no election this year 4 in 222 and last year that's all we get and we're far behind if people want to vote we track them down with questions and once the ballot comes take

the ballot to them and pick up the ballot and many times they register we have to go back and get more signatures each person votes sometimes four or five and 2022 alone over 3000 people voted in the jail. we think that is pretty cool. >> and we actually get calls from other departments how do you guys do if we make that a priority and the sheriff's office has been a priority. how do they found out about us incarcerated individuals i'm sorry we have a little poster hanging in every pod they know.

by the time they're out of the county jail the deputies tell them everything else to they can call us on the phone that is 2003 voting we were actually walking up and down the old jail and talk to people in the pod now we don't have that jail anywhere people know who we are and ask questions. >> they fill out the requests you can see lots of them we don't have to go through them. >> and the fill those anti we try to respond to them in writing if not, we'll go and talk to them. >> a quick example a dealing with traffic tickets all the

time i can barely read it. >> fast services to the department we constantly going to policies with change and sometimes, we get people at the table and done reports and auditing and with workout between the media and our media person and person who are incarcerated the media would like to talk to. we are a barrier and talk with the person and hook up with their attorney about they make a statement we believe that is important though know what they doing. >> we also deal with compliance people

undocumented on hold or sends requests for hold that happens in the state of california requires it now to notify that person that ice wants them we give them a pamphlet on all sort of resources when they get out to work on their relationships and do core training for deputies. we help out with - and video inviting when covid started everyday trying to help. >> we do speaking combeechlts like this and on the defensive bar every single criminal defense attorney in san francisco knows though, call for help with their client.

prohibition and courts contact us three basic big internal projects in the summer and have full-time internship and during the school we have they come in on a weekly basis and talk with the incarcerated individual and come back to our office and go and respond to the answers so we get the answers back to the person who had the question. many of our challenges are staffing [off mic.] >> not always this is fine but other interims have challenges with staffing and downsizing we are down one person spanish bilingual. >> a paralegal we people - >> [off mic.] >> heard it here first and

wow. >> we get our champions we get support for the administration 20 years ago the support. but we constantly can get things done and sometimes have to work around people like any other bureaucracy and generally, we support. >> considering we work with a one person department and as far as we know no other law enforcement in the united states has this this is a cool thing and communication, communication is a challenge sometimes in the department. sometimes with the incarcerated individuals but some of the big challenges and now. your turn any questions? >> we have questions. >> wanted to put it in the record that

[off mic.] >> let's begin on (unintelligible). >> board member wechter since you're here you have any questions. >> 216 three 1 of the reports regarding specific practices and conditions can you, you give us an idea and the second part of question will those with accessible to the public and board? >> so we have done - ones on discipline mostly and a.d. second reports and recently in the past few years e-mailed those kinds of things that's as far as getting the mail but get you copy of one of the reports so i see. >> can you clarify that [off mic.] >> administrative actually

called administrative separation i believe one there. >> many years ago we need the a few that were they covered all the jails especially we have the 5 or 6 opened difference in every jail this is a super report we got push back but recently go through the list and looking say okay hasn't happened some public defend will say the reason it's there we see problems in the write up and look at everybody who happens to be in on that day and look for

problems and sends up to the captain and 9 other of ten times they'll knockoff where one person at that time the person was out of custody and nothing gets done that's what i mean about the communications and support that is better today than 20 years ago. >> off the top of my head no questions right now. >> no? >> thank you for that. >> presentation. and also the documents. heading it sitting still out-of-sight but not out of mind what - how do the effects being held hear about you folks in terms of the other services we provide. >> (multiple voices). >> unfortunately, many of our - a lot of our population are, you know. come in and out

frequent flyers they know about us and someone new comes in and has an issue this guy was done here until 9 or someone just word of mouth is saying up that i would say if you walk through the jail 9 out of 10 people know about the legal services and use our services about been interest so long and as a matter of fact, that's the point where family calls and some attorney sails the deputies send an e-mail 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock at night never used to happen they fill you out a former. that is funny our jail obviously is not

a place everyone wants to be and from other jails over the jails and represented people in santa clara and monterey and while our jail is not a place you want to spend the night, it is so many better than any other jail i still see problems with that that's why you guys - those things having us do the core training hey someone is having a problem they're stressed you don't have to deal with them call us. and one person is not who is stressed can mess up the whole pod we'll walk negative impact and talk with that one

person and hear people yell and it they'll start screaming okay. i'm getting out of here they know us. >> thank you for that and might not be able to answer this but i'll be interested might not be what organizations are we working with outside of the department people coming back so what are what he able to try to make sure that people are not coming back, you know. >> inside of jail but thinking about connections. >> yeah. >> (multiple voices.) >> and question more towards the programs and i know as far as us, we - [off mic.] >> as far as we work with um, the evictions collaborative and

work with plaintiff what help people with legal agencies refer them and as far as like housing that is not us unfortunately. >> we'll help them not get e vishthd but we get a lot of questions and amending the programs or give them resources that hey we knock on all the doors. >> outside of resources and answer the question before we don't have to answer directly go talk to this it organization they'll help. >> right i think that is more for allen. >> or who whoever is out of town. >> thank you coming up with even with wish lists from each agency or department working with us, we should know about

too i know resources are ready tight now and no money for extra in the budget it is cut so happy to support whatever good work you're doing and i'm going to turn it over to board member afuhaamango you thank you, nick for the presentation that is cool the photos. i had no idea i consider myself plugged in and that is really cool. >> so you know for years the aclu had people come in and had we called them please stop sending us collect actives every single year but people know with do it and that's cool. >> i have just a few questions the type questions you receive

which is i would say the majority? >> so i upstairs. >> you know. i mean. >> i think the breakdown is that 70 percent for materials and information. so questions about the criminal law process i have a primary hearing next week what does that mean. or a hearing in the public defender's office. >> they rely on us for support services for their client. >> so you guys- >> (multiple voices). >> yeah. >> yeah. [off mic.] >> yeah

[off mic.] >> and then what is the percent that your team - the percent of the people that utilize your services. >> i don't know this - >> we're open to all. >> we haven't actually- >> (multiple voices). >> there are some that utility utilized our services. >> most effectively way to be in the jails and cell to cell that is difficult for the staffing we really rely on our intifrmz that is critical like

uc sf an enormous help we go to the areas and cell to cell when we do that everyone who is like door to door. >> i was occurring in the population of seven hundred plus. >> yeah. >> thousand. >> okay. at one point that was like [off mic.] >> they have everyone speak into the microphone. >> a sorry. >> so we can capture it on the video. >> it's all the questions i have. >> i know you have a couple of questions i know you have a busywork today. >> the public's edification we have serious questions for mou i

want to know about the in custody services so say something low level someone needs a supply like hygiene comfort supplies and in terms of particular grievenlz how is that filed. >> the grievances are technical under custody we get flievenz against person services a lot of those we got one today we go to the database no record we responded some stuff let us know what you need. but a grievances that should be they need a razz our should be answered by the captain in the pod and deputy will sign off on the grievance

and have a prisoner sign off a title paper or toothbrush and grievances the policy. you have access to policies we - [off mic.] >> oh, well i printed them out i think i left them in the office we can get you guys a copy of the policies. basic the policy says i get a grievance no title paper my job here's your title paper and; right? i gave inmates title paper the inmate signs off if you want to appeal if i don't get you, your title paper that didn't happen but appeal it to supervisor and they'll try to respond that

didn't happen they are in the happen with the response so it goes to um, facility commander the same in the office and asian will answer first, i'm then answer after that. >> an ladies and gentlemen, al gas station of staff misconduct. and we'll route it properly, you know. margaret for their review. >> that's actually in the policy and follow-up with the kieflgz can or the under sheriff and margaret or sheriff's

counsel. however, i'm sure i lost your questions. >> the grievances. >> if we get one that says hey a sexual assault and advise the facility commander right now and get an "x" excess force and also times over the years made and complaint about excessive force and get a copy of all and pass it on to the command and so to make sure that - and i think almost everything now we work

with the dpa a little bit we have one of our packets actually tells how to get ahold of dpa that will change in january and we'll get that information drirtd to our incarcerated population to them to contact the oig office to set that up hope that answers your question. >> it does. >> a final question on the invitation by family and if you'll work with the communications and family and i know that is really difficult with the staffing to actually try to schedule so there are certain things you think are high priority a way to get a family member? >> if a family member - oh,

yeah. i we get contact phone calls my daughter or son is in jail we fascinate it since covid started and it is hard to get the families visits we started last week isn't that; correct and two more nights a week we visit and some have problems getting - making the appointments i spoke with the chief about that and they're complaining about customer service and hoping she reached out today but we, you know. have somebody called from new york and from out-of-town and worried their child and want to visit fly out of friday and the we've

been able to work around and get special visits for families members but generally those are in our main - we only step in when we can do some good and make an extension that is part of whole access that is cool about our jobs we can slide in and out to help people. >> any further questions? >> deputy winning okay. thank you for being here and we look forward to further collaboration with our inspector general. >> you have our e-mail feel free to send e-mails our way (rustling of papers). >> public comment. >> persons for line item 2 line

up and as a reminder you'll have up to 2 minutes for public comment. >> it appears no public comment. >> calling line item >> 3. department of police accountability presentation (dpa) (informational). erick baltazar, chief investigator for dpa. will talk about how investigations are handled. >> sir. >> thank you for being here. >> all right. good morning

president soo and members of the board and public i'm erick baltazar, chief investigator for dpa. to provide an eve of how we conduct investigations. >> a little bit about myself i've been with the city and county of san francisco for twrgd years and investigator with the chiefs office and i then got a job with the police of albeit conducting police misconduct and then a senior investigator for 8 years and the now the chief of investigations for 10 years responsible for management of the investigations team. so throughout any career with the dpa and servicing 7 thousand cases in addition he responded to and or supervised

shootings in the last years. >> a little bit of history about dpa. dpa was with the office citizen complaint in 1992 called the office of citizen complaints and became our operation that charter as amended in 2003 expanding commissioners from 5 to 7. >> and also gave the department of police accountability director the power to - which i'll talk about in a little bit. >> there was an amendment to the charter in 2016 that mandated us to investigate all

ois and prior to that if a contemplate is filed after the amendment was passed in 2016 they were requiring us to immediately look at officer-involved shooting and it also gave his us the authority to investigate - >> so what is our mission? >> dpa mission it looking at cases against sworn members of police department and look at the police practices. investigator when we get a complaint we are open monday through friday and located at one south van ness and have an investigator assigned for the

day including a back up anyone that comes to our office monday through friday can file a complaint also online on the website and file a complaint and also mail their complaint and we'll reach out to the complaint and get their statement. lastly complaint anyone that wants to file a complaint against a police department can go to the a district and they're farther to our office. >> ordering a copy of incident report and body cameras so we get information and part of this is required to provide us with the majority of information we have own an incident and send a request to the department and

they're required to comply except for sensitive materials. >> once we get the information about the incident we'll interview witnesses if any and then we'll question the officer this gives the officer the opportunity to respond to the allegations and after we question the officer we'll make our finding those finding will be sent to the complainants and officers addressing each of the allegations. >> claimant compromise we'll get one complaint and involves two officers or al impacts against each officer. >> depending on that happens.

>> and again, as stated those al al irrigations will be addressed and the officer is invited four california gives if they fail to turn on body cameras we have anything related to a behavior anyone yelling at the complaint and the officer using profanity we'll bring that outline we'll bring the allegations and the officer address all the allegations. >> so we have two ways of

getting information or having officers respond to the ocala gas stations one send out a member respond o response form a sit down of questions sent to the officers and owes officers are required to answer and the officer the subject officer that officer may seek advice from a union rep or attorney. >> we can also bring the officer in most cases that involve use of force obese those are mandatory so bring the officer into an interview and this officer is entitled but they did officers are required to look at the investigations

our finding if we find misconduct that the officer violated the policy we will close that case with improper conduct if we determine the officer conduct was proper but unfounded with the allegations in your insufficient evidence not enough evidence to prove or disproof what happened and supervisor failure and officer failure. other finding just withdrawals claimants decides to withdraw they call the office. information only if the complaint is not ground in reality not grounded in reality rental units sometimes we get

complaints regarding department of emergency or the department of emergency management and sometimes i didn't think so parking control officers we don't have jurisdiction so we'll refer that on and we have a program i'll touch own in a little bit. >> really quick our review process 4 teams of investigators. sfrifrd by a senior investigator when a investigator concludes his or her investigations the investigator will prop finding as to the allegations against is officers those will be reviewed by a senior investigator and reviewed by the attorney and myself the chief investigator. we have pretty intense review

process we want to make sure we get it right. >> so if we find if - enough evidence the officer violated the general order or misconduct, we will prepare what we call a sustain report and forward to the internal affairs the chief with endorse discipline up to 10 days - in dpa believes that is greater than 10 days the department dangerous the authority that was given to dpa will give the dpa authority to file charges and within 10

days. (rustling of papers.) >> double discipline written reprimand a quick note the the department didn't have the tort to look at felon investigation but those incidences wherever to internal affairs for a criminal investigation and other non-discipline counseling and training. >> i mentioned our remediation program we can send it it mitigation for mediation i highly encourage the board to visit the mediation director ali can talk about the program and the mitigation program is a

perfect opportunity for the officer and complaint to have an open discussion about what happened in a neutral setting fascinated by a medicine for they can get together and talk about what happened and this is just an lastly no one october 2020 the dpa has a better use for data collection and a report that audit was nationally by the association in 2021 we urge you to read that report it a detailed report about the departments data

collection and reporting. >> and that report. regarding dpa and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have thank you. i want to remind the members i sent some information to look at the association of audit for local government and that is a link available to the public also as well as the citation by the california department of justice i want to note pretty imperative not a backlog of policy accountability agencies with taking a backlog and not able to get their cases with no discipline or failed an investigation thank you for the theory report and open up for

questions, board member nguyen. >> can you give an example of the and witnesses and a problem when the and witness officer turns into a person that is questioned. >> the officers are not under the government code not entitled to representation but mandated and not - in instance in a and witness officer that can be brought up on some charges for failing to coordinate with the investigation so they must coordinate not entitled to representation and in the middle the interview that the witness officer what about a subject officer we'll conclude and notice the officer to be a maybe

officer that officer will have an opportunity for a presentation that happens if from time to time rarely that happens to one of the sheriff's the officer what about named we'll name the officer and give the officer a right to representation and swear that in after the investigation. >> thank you >> you're welcome. >> board member wechter. >> no, thank you i was on the operation of 19 three three i'm familiar with that thank you for the presentation. >> and served on the police commission. >> and i want to say for the accolades dpa has - i was a lion's to dpa so the amount of meetings and the investigation and is meetings we have with the legal folks and it is a lot and complex. before you just want to

again, just to share one i've been part of the work and see the work that dpa has been doing with the good work and looking forward to continuing to move forward but i prefer it very, very, very familiar with all of that. >> and board member afuhaamango and yes. i have a few questions. i know you mentioned the interview how the inmates will issue and complaint and as far as i understand one is an option submitting that online and other one is mail and the third being a phone. >> we can do it by phone and anyone can go to any station to file and complaint those complaints are forwarded. >> got it. >> and honestly new to i'm like

10 years old but when the comply issues a complaint how i guess i'm trying to understand the process how they're able to issue a complaint without republic concussions down the line. >> up to the complaint what the kwlant has criminal charges pending we advise them to check with their attorney and our records are confident subpoena penned by the court and take a robbeded statement and go from there. >> maybe that is a question for

marshall i know in his quarterly report the types of reports 88 percent were misconduct filed under misconduct 12 percent marijuana more operational questions. i think i wanted to ask if you're team or the dpa tracks like how those numbers are on a quarterly basis. >> in terms of numbers of misconduct we have an annual report that breakdown that and the finding so we do have - do an analysis of the trend and so encourage the board to look at the annual last year's annual report on the website and track those changes and yeah they're all in there. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> so i wanted to thank you and

i think down the road with trends the number of work hours for a particular deputy um, and any kind of misconduct complaint, you know. shift changes as well the job is very informative and no further questions i'm going to let you go. >> thank you. >> colleagues, i want to say those presentations are meant to educate us as well as the public and expect the inspector general to follow up and get acclimated to the resources available but this is just so we know what we're trying to follow in the next meeting hope to have the under sheriff i know chief has been working hard on the scheduling and under sheriff is wearing three or four hats trying to get the budget in

order and helping as a financial officer and under sheriff so the next phase we'll ask her what happens once the investigation is completed and lands on her deck and how she parcels out the complaints and how she proceeds with that and i think i will go offline and make a request to be kind and ask for remediation after the presentation will work well. >> so is there any public comment on this presentation by the erick baltazar, chief investigator for dpa. >> anyone like to make a comment please line up. >> appears no public comment. >> thank you next item on the agendas. >> >> 4. quarterly report

(discussion and action). >> review and discuss the somebody needs to do something evaluation outreach for sf charter 4.137. >> colleagues where we left off was that i believe that board member brookter i made a suggestion to augment that and i apologize. i think when i set the highlight this is a dark circle sort of mask the text that is added in the additional um, addition was also the police and fire map that vice president carrion attended at the invitation of chief carter.

>> i have an edited version i sent to dan and the members i have hard copies for the members and for dan and janna and copies for the public if i can pass that down. >> so i think we sl should have an opportunity to consider that urgent. >> it is actually - if not massive changes we can go on one copy we'll safe trees and have a robust conversation. >> see the changes in the track changes

(rustling of papers). >> which one are we racking to an under the sdob i deleted something on page 2 i felt was opinion rather than fact that the report should be strictly

factual. >> there's a copy for you. >> well, i need a copy also. i gave my copy to you.

>> (laughter.) >> any discussion? on this tim. >> so i guess i introduce a notice copy we - left off with

board member brookter asked where the community outreach part the jail to be included. >> and since last meeting member board member afuhaamango said she thought the attachment where the notes can be formatted we can produce the new version in for mat he of the was more appropriate. >> i think i'll let board member afuhaamango speak for herself. >> for the rest of the board i'm not ready to move forward it was more the flow i was trying to convey would be different for me to digest. i did - i think

board member wechter mentioned that misconduct is not within our scope of work so my suggestions to removal that altogether and julie mentioned that borad member palmer didn't have a second to approve this might need to - make sure he sees it. >> actually he saw a version with everything that is courage in it and additional text owe removed at ms. clarks opinion and i don't know how sentences she of the would not be appropriate in a public document. >> i'm not going to haggle with

hearsay but vice mayor wunderlich didn't have an opportunity to look at they was present at the last meeting a conversation that i had in-person with him. >> dan would you be able to pull up what we're looking at so members of the public can look at that that one at the for for putting that information starting in the report and document that definitely needs to be under i'll okay with the portion that um, board member wechter is putting before us i want to strike out and have an attachment to the report i think going back to the last meeting owe see it on the agenda, you know. we talked about able to have reports infrastructure members. so i think this should

look like a member goes to the chief and under chief don't have to belabor us sending in our report to the board since we're on a time i i'm okay with that strike out the summary and i think up for discussion and maybe president soo we deleted the last sentence on page two this information advanced work was crucial and you're directed from the departments by the budget of three percent get our thoughts. >> i put that in there i believe that is a factual statement we're trying to save money and the is being is coming in with his hands tied i think

that is crucial to mention that so try to ask for that to it is important we recognize dpa and hoping the board of supervisors will have recognized our effort to try a safe money but we still need to operate. >> yeah. i disagree that was crucial i expressed concerns with some of the things that dpa has done. but i think will protect the oig into an expensive database the oig might not be is office convenient for that is members of the public for people and individuals in jail. so i feel that is your opinion didn't reflective on my opinion but needs to be factual.

>> i don't want a back and forth dpa has done a good job and example pa will make a decision and no office or data the report provided to us who that sales force came up with the complaint system for dpa with minimal changes and helped to make it available important sheriff complaint and their made without going to scratch and saving us money and it is not costing additional money to have - saves time for the inspector general so i don't want to haggle on those particular points. i will entertain to motion from board member

brookter. >> is that in the memo. >> yeah. >> we can do the dpa separately. >> yeah. >> so i think - i want to maybe get help with the words president soo it is similar in terms of what they're proposing under the community outreach under what board member wechter proposed i don't know if a combination. >> i'm not sure if i'm sorry this color came out at the start but i had written board member brookter and let me put on my - >> borad member palmer and board member wechter visited the county jail and board member

wechter is proposing board member wechter and borad member palmer visited jail number 3, in san bruno and received input are the san francisco police department jail conditions and period and summary and included attached to this report my recommendation to take that last out but some sort of combination between what we have in front of us here and board member wechter. >> i used three rephrasing comes from the charter language says input read into the record s d and that's what i quoted here for this purchase as stated in the clearly one of our required duties. i'd like to see that language in there and not support a motion to - that

would not have this summary attachment there is a precedence will be headquarter reports on community meetings we attached the minutes i'm supporting the sheriff and board of supervisors to see what input that language was in a charter we solicited that from the individuals impaired and i agree with you jason but agendized and the agenda is attached those minutes are very accurate again members just be able do go out and induct our own conversation with the opportunities and should be more for listed in terms of

should be more of a memo goes to the sheriff as we do enough work and figuring out was that looks like. >> i respectfully disagree. >> yeah. i would ask especially, since borad member palmer is not here would feel more comfortable if we had more of a formalized process i like it is summonized in the outreach. and i'll add that san francisco step forward, sir operation report to the jail conditions. >> augments in the color. >> so the input.

>> summon. >> yes. >> yeah. >> when i visit the jail on september 16th. >> yes. >> and when you questioned the inmates about the jail conditions (unintelligible). >> yes. deferred to william to do most of talking and did the notes. >> (multiple voices). >> yes. >> okay. >> and i was surmised. >> with the sf jail conditions. >> just to make sure i understand what your recommendation sends it to the chief and maybe more of an internal memory owe to help prioritization. >> correct. >> so we actually have motion based on the quarterly report and made by board member

brookter asking for the friendly amendments to conclude the jail conditions. >> we're going to augment that. >> this it motion will not include attaching the note to the visit to the - ; is that correct? >> that's correct and respectfully appreciate the support. >> fair enough. >> a second on board member brookter possession. >> i second. >> any public comment. >> a member of the public would like to make public comment in the quarterly report line up against the far wall and two minutes to give public comment. >> there appears to be no public comment. >> call roll on the motion.

>> board member afuhaamango, aye. >> board member brookter, aye. >> board member wechter, aye. >> president soo. >> board member wechter, no. a that motion carries by a majority and the quarterly report will state the changes approved. >> i received an e-mail owe need to return so i need to leave no later than than 3:45 and actually i'm sorry are you withdrawing any kind of changes you want the remainder of the report was still on the quarterly report. >> no. no, i'm not.

>> oh, so if board member brookter you want to make a motion to conclude the comments for our budget. >> the motion is i recommend to keep the language as is and not to have the language deleted from the report. >> so i understand (rustling of papers.) we have dpa so if you compare the highlights and then pip under other? >> look at the second paragraph in the highlighted yellow the last this information fence was crucial in light mayor to trim

the gentleman is asking to - my motion is to keep the language as is. >> i agree with president soo gives more tell us to the point. >> and what about the other one that with removal of the last line. >> number 2, is adding in there i have so many piece of paper and colors on the the chair operations. >> that was the motion we if you flip the page on both sides the second paragraph the last

sentence. board member wechter asked that last sentence to be - and board member brookter make a motion to approve as is. >> and approving this language as it is we're not approving like in the it infrastructure at this point? >> remember this is the report and i second it then and need public comment. >> members of the public would like to make public comment on line item 4 quarterly report please line up against is far wall or approach the podium. >> appears to be no public comment. >> one point if we are going to send the photos to the sheriff um, can he state that here? >> states the form in which it will be accessible to the public and i would have an issue with

that because the gentleman said borad member palmer i'll feel more comfortable talking to after the information we receive were actuate we could have a different person he could and i saw that with more information and didn't express any concerns. >> you i understand i'll feel more comfortable personally. >> weren't those notes posted on the website they were submitted to last meeting and accessible to the public i i want to put that out there point that out. >> we still is a motion on the floor. um, ready for a vote. >> calling the roll to keep the

language as noted. >> board member afuhaamango, aye. >> board member brookter, aye. >> board member nguyen, aye. >> president soo, aye. >> board member wechter, no. >> the motion passes by majority and next agendas. >> really quick the last possession to introduce the meeting minutes or is jail minutes as a memory owe to the sheriff's department. >> or do we need to do that because it is already out. >> it is out i share the concerns with board member nguyen with board member brookter not having the review. >> okay. >> not agendized.

>> okay. >> exactly. >> calling line item 5. >> 5. rescheduling 2024 sdob regular meetings (discussion and possible action) move any discussion? [off mic.] >> what is the reason for the proposed change. >> it some people maybe traveling during the holidays. >> i mean it shifts the first meeting in january to the friday afternoon before a three day weekends it might demolish public perhaps and you think every way we have an issue so

new year's. >> i'll agree agnostic either way i'll not be traveling. >> i'm fine with either way. >> thank you for scheduling that. >> board member nguyen. >> want to keep did as is without changing the date. >> yes. the first friday. >> i know, i know. >> it happens every month. >> so can we have a motion board member brookter to keep it to the original date. >> motion to keep the rectangular scheduled meeting for the year 2024. >> do i have a second? >> i second. >> any public comment and for

members of the public would like to make public comment on item 5 please line up against the far wall or approach the podium. >> calling the roll. >> board member afuhaamango, aye. >> board member brookter, aye. >> board member nguyen, aye. >> president soo, aye. >> board member wechter, aye. >> motion passed the current schedule remains the same. >> i noticed future agenda items for members who sent them to me, i'm trying to pull together to help advance our acknowledge what you want to see in terms of community gamut. >> sorry i didn't call that line item.

>> 6. future agenda items (discussion and possible action) and sorry jumping the gun to accommodate board member wechter schedule we ask advance our acknowledge we women our inspector general and so the next meeting hopefully have the under sheriff and the chief of the dpa program. i also want to let you know we may have to address the budget issues and have a hearing may help in january and february expect we may have to have additional meetings next time. >> anything else. >> are those not in priority order kind of a honk postage. >> yeah. so can i add a presentation in the public defender's office you mentioned that that will likely come

hopefully in february. >> i think that dovetails with the presentation we had today (coughing). >> so um, per minutes at our last meeting made an offer to a candidate receiving an update. >> i understand that an offer was made and accepted and nailing down the final paperwork we set the start date next january. >> do we know when the choice will be made public. >> later on this mow before christmas coordinate with h.r. and public defender's office and the district attorney's office i think the vision so have a warm welcome to a member of the city

hall family. >> how will that announcement be made and made pubically through communications from the sheriff's office. >> as well as - we don't have a communication right now i'll ask board member afuhaamango to step in as a community person and she's well-versed in information through particular communities and envision and community of outreach i prefer that come from this board so i see a conflict for the sheriff's department making that announcement. >> i'll be work together with them but the communication person through the sheriff i expect the sheriff will be there. as well so - >> maybe we can work with the

existence person to the board of supervisors with walton's office to carry the legislation and i'll be invited as well as the mayor i can do it. for legislators so i'm well-versed but make sure that um, dpa was present and so that's why i'll coordinating and making sure the dates are available- >> (multiple voices). >> i requesting at that time we make public information about the number of applicants and the number that qualifies and the number that submitted written responses and eligible to interview so we're not revealing anyone else's identity- >> (multiple voices). >> i'll go back and confer

with the city attorney we mentioned how many people have applied and you emphasized a nationwide search. >> i have a question that d parts but can what he take a moment to digest and come back in mid-january to need to figure out how to prioritize this agenda item. >> it is important to work with the oig and prioritize. >> when is the oig and we expect him in january. >> that was actually my only statement board member afuhaamango inside my head i look at 24 items i know at at this time were asked we want to look at as board members that would be great to take this and

have keep an eye on that it. >> also i'm going to do a calendar. >> perfect. >> like last year. >> perfect. perfect. >> and went heads i look at the calendar we move the january meeting to the 12 the oig might be able to be present is that a consideration for any of you. >> you i don't personally mind doing the ground work before the oig only because we kind of know a little bit more than the oig coming in and that would be great to get our top priorities down. >> you like the january meeting to be prioritized. >> regarding the announcement who will be the driver to invite

oversight practice insurance in berkley and the county. >> when the announcement goes out you are welcome to invite anyone and everyone because it is will be public; right? >> will be valuable for now office of the inspector general to service mentors when they come in. >> any public comment? >> members of the public who would like to make public comment on item 6 future agenda items line up against the far wall or approach the podium. >> appears to be no public comment. >> thank you next agenda item. >> >> 7. general public comment. at this time the public

comment is able comment is able board will attend this meeting in-person. members of the public are invited to observe the meeting in-person or remotely online as described below. if you lucky to make public comment line up against the far wall and have two minutes to provide public comment. >> tre appears to be no public comment (coughing) >> thank you. >> 8 is there any and line 8 adjournment. >> all in favor, say "aye." >> aye. >> nays meeting is adjourned at 3:41 p.m. >> thank you dan. >> yep [meeting adjourned]

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in fire prevention. i'm very happy at fire prevention because not only am i able to enforce the code and make changes to help the citizen of san francisco be safe in their homes or place of business, but i think my work also make sure that my fellow firefighters and first responders, when they respond to a fire, the building is also safe for them. >> you're watching san francisco rising with chris manners. today's special guest is brooke jenkins. >> hi, i'm chris manners and you are watchs san francisco rising, the show about restarting rebuilding and reimagining our city. ourguest san francisco district attorney brooke jenkins here to talk about theopeioid crisis, criminal justice and more. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thank you for being here. let's start with organized restale threft. some jurisdictions across the country imposed most of the punishment against people shop lifting in groups but that may be applied disproportionately to epipooal and

doesn't address the organization behind it all. how can we make sure both prosecute the ring leaders behind the crimes and make sure justice is handed out eveningly? >> making sure we get to the higher level of organizations in the organized retail threrft area so that is something myophilus is very much focused on working the police department on. looking at organized retail threat ringzsx but we have to make sure people are being caught who have stealing and that is a big challenge in the sit a so we have worked with retailers and small business owners to insure the necessary protocols and procedures are in place to at the very laest catch people who are stealing because they have been running out of the stores and therefore facing no consequence so we have to start there and trying to do more with intervention with the youth who are some of the population doing some of the threfts. many stores

have turned to not detaining employees stealing oertrying to stop them and that change in procedure lead to making it very difficult for the police department to capture these people stealing. we have been working with them on a change in their protocol going back to the way it used to be done so we can actually have the opportunity to have people face consequences. >> right. so, let's move to the opioid crisis which had a devastating impact across the community and across the country, including san francisco. how can your office help address the issue? >> the main thing is going back to where people feel there is a consequence dealing drugs in the city. we can't treat drug steel dealing as a victimless crime. we have ooverage 2 people dying a day from overdose. there are victims of this offense so quha what is did is say no longer the case we decriminalizing drug sales in san francisco as

the da office. we have to put consequence on the table and insure the most agregiouss sellers so massive quantityties of fentanyl, some enough to kill all most half the city. sometimes with people with wep ens and guns are multiple of cases with fentanyl are treated differently then thoges with small contties so i ask those people detain in custody. we can't have them on the street hours later, but also trying to work with the police department and our city making sure our laws are enforced. it is the only people people suffering from addiction will have a opportunity at recovry. imagine if you are trying to get clean and every 10 steps doin the block you are offered the drug you have been addicted to. it is impossible. that is one way we are dealing with the supply side and we are taking a different approach on the demand side, which is to say, if people are publicly

using drugs over and over again, that we believe we need to intervene in those situations and so the police are citing them and when somebody reaches 3 of the citations, we then file a complaint, but route them into a treatment court to try to help them get help. >> they have a option take treatment or face charges? >> correct. essentially. we of course encourage treatment because that is what these folks need. >> absolutely, absolutely. san francisco is known for being forfront of criminal justice reform with initiatives such as community justice center and restoreative justice, how do you plan to build on the efforts and push for aggressive policies insuring we have a fair system that holds people accountable? >> i have been clear accountability comes in many different forms. historically, da office used one form and that is incarceration. the way i functioned as a prosecutor over the years is make sure we are finding the

appropriate form of accountability for each and every person for their specific circumstance, and so for some people it may be incarceration, others it is treatment and going through behavioral health to stabilize mental health issue. some it is say ing we toopt see you get a job so we require that you go through a trade program so you can get a skill that allows you to take care of yourself in a different way. for me it is investing in those opportunities which requires us to be partnering with community based organizations to identify what programs we can send people to, but i'm very much invested in seeing our collaborative courts, which is what community justice center, drug court, young adult court seeing those courts thrive and encouraging the lawyers to explore those opportunities. >> right. what role do you think the da office

can play addressing the issue of police misconduct and promoting accountability? >> our job is to prosecute police officers when they commit such misconduct and use excessive force in a way that is illegal so we'll continue to maintain that is our job and our position. we prosecute all crime in san francisco, it is not about what your statue is, what your position is or what office you hold. the law will always be our standard. we can't treat differently where they come from, whether they wear a uniform or not, our standard is the law. for me, as a black latino woman it is issue very personal to me. we had a death in police custody in my family that i heard about my entire life. i'm raising two black children including a black son who you know, i will have to talk about these type of issues as he grows up. i was out raged long

before george floyd. the list goes on and on, but as a prosecutor i have to maintain one standard and it is whether somebody according to the law has committed a crime and so that's what we always look at. >> absolutely. finally, what message do you have for the people of san francisco and what you hope to accomplish during your tenure? >> i want the people of san francisco to know i'm committed serving the function the da office was designed to serve which is make sure we promote public safety across san francisco. like i said, we have to have accountability in our city. what we see going on in our streets is the result of people feeling as though there was none. they didn't fear even the police walking by as they were committing a crime because there was a belief that even if you arrest me, the da office isn't going to do anything that i'm afraid of experiencing, and so we want people to have a

healthy fear of what a consequence will be, but i also want san francisco to know we are a da office that stands by the val aoos we have here in san francisco which is second chances, compassion, responsible alternative to incourseeration bought the end of the day accountability has to be what people said back on the street or community in a fashion where they can succeed. every time somebody cycles into the system we are thoughtful what the person needs to get back on their feet and not create another victim in the future. >> quite right. thank you. thank you so much for coming on the show. i really appreciate the time you have given us today. >> thank you. >> that's it for this episode. we'll back for another shortly. for sfgovtv, i'm

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