>> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> welcome all. >> good morning. this is fire commission regular meeting december 13, 2023 and the time is 904. this meeting is being held in person. members of the public may attend the meeting to observe and provide public comment at the physical meeting location or by calling, 1-415-655-0001 and meeting id26609322263. the pass word is 1234 members may address the commission up

to three minutes per agenda item. please be advised there is no fire commission meeting december 27, 2023 and the next fire commission regular meeting is january 10, 2024. please insure you're in a quite location for public comment. speak clearly and turn off background sound, television phones, radios. wait for the item to be called. press star 3 to be added to the queue. the system will notify you when you are in line. callers hear silence when waiting for your turn to speak. operator will unmute you. yeah may also watch live at www.sfgovtv.org. item 1, roll call. president nakajo, present. vice president morgan, present. commissioner feinstein, present. commissioner fraser, present. commissioner collins has been

excused and chief of department jeanine nicholson, present. president nakajo will now read the land acknowledgment. >> thank you madam secretary. the san francisco we acknowledge that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors and relatives of the ramaytush community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. madam secretary. >> item 2, general public

comment. members may address the commission for up to 30 minutes within the jurisdiction not that does not appear on the agenda. commissioners not to enter into debate or discussion with a speaker. the lack of response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement nor support. >> do we have public comment, madam secretary? >> yes, we have--one moment, please. okay. your time starts now. >> good morning. it is like christmas present, the fire department. your last meeting, right?

coming here this morning i saw this thing on the new campaign saying, [indiscernible] we choose responsibility and critical thinking for the future. as far as the fire is concerned, i think it would be interesting to start bringing real piece of information that there will be never because water obviously is the friend of the fireman normally. water there will never be shortage normally in the world because apparently there is something called primary water. woo we have to investigate that. which is below feet--i think like 300 miles below our feet. it is quantity of water which will always be there, so that

will be the only problem is technology. what i want to say, i'm with you, it is just--try your best, try to fight technology which is unfortunately weaponized in all activities and that's it. merry christmas. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. madam secretary. >> there is nobody approaching the podium and nobody on our public comment line. >> thank you very much. public comment is closed at this time. >> item 2, approval of the minutes. discussion and possible action to approve the meeting minutes from the regular meeting on november 8, 2023. >> thank you. any public comment on the item 3 approval of the minutes from the public? madam secretary-- >> there is nobody approaching

the podium, and nobody on the public comment line. >> thank you very much. public comment is closed on the minutes. i need a motion commissioners in terms of this adoption. >> [indiscernible] >> thank you very much commissioner feinstein. >> second. >> thank you very much vice president morgan. >> president nakajo, aye. fraser, aye. the motion is unanimous. item 4 chief of department report. report from chief of department jeanine nicholson.

report on current issues, activities, and events within the department since the fire commission meeting on november 8, 2023, including budget, academies, special events, communications and outreach to other government agencies and the public.report from operations, deputy chief darius luttropp report on overall field operations, including greater alarm fires, bureau of fire prevention & investigation, training within the department., and airport division. report from ems and community paramedicine, deputy chief sandra tong report on the ems and community paramedicine divisions. >> thank you very much. good morning chief nicholson. i know you have a meeting with the mayor soon and know you are a little under the weather. hopefully you are able to get well in the course of the next few days. good morning. >> thank you president nakajo, vice president morgan, commissioner feinstein, commissioner fraser. chief nicholson, this is my report. since our last meeting on wednesday november 8, 2023. lots of activities going on over the past month. all sorts of tree lighting ceremonies and we also had a

police and fire award banquet. american legion post 456 where we had three of our members were honored. ex mt carlos martinez for public service. he takes folks on trips to el salvador to treat the poorest of the poor out in rural areas. he was honored for that and had two other firefighters honored for rescuing police officer last year who had the tree fall on his vehicle and seriously injure him. nice ceremony. as you know, we also had apec, apec, apec in november and our team really suited up and shoed up and i'm so appreciative and proud of all the work our members did.

assistant deputy chief brown really just did an astonishing job at accordinating everything as did deputy chief tong. it took a village and great work by all. i know mayor breed came by station 49 yesterday to thank the members and station 49 and i know chief brown and chief tong were there yesterday so thank you for being there. we also the week of apec had the 132 graduation. thank you for all you that came to that, and we also had a h3 level 1 graduation on november 22. lots of new folks out in the field, good stuff. we had our monthly labor management meeting. all went well there.

and thanksgiving along and did quite a few different events, including saint anthony giving thanks on golden gate. turkey carving versus the police department and yes, we won. not to brag, but strong work everyone. and thanksgiving day, i did-we did glide and self--help for the elderly and salvation army on powell street. it was a really good day. we had a firefighter from engine 41 honored at the nob hill association event, which happens every year. protector of the year with the police department. and then the command staff met with city 1234 met with the ems officers association rescue

captains. we met with united fire service women doing great work and the asian firefighter association also doing great work. excuse me. still being interviewed around autonomous vehicles, we had the dutch media in town for an interview session, so we have seen all the happenings with crews of late and again, we are just-we want everyone to be safe and i know chief luttropp had ongoing meetings with crews and wamo in order to help facilitate some improvements to public safety with their technology. the dream keepers initiative, which is mayor's program for that a lot of departments take part in and i was one of the-we

were one of the departments that presented at that event along with multitude of others, but we presented on our program city emt and our 9910 internship program of our city emt and people. very well received. a lot of people know about it. it is a incredibly popular program. we had a boot camp for the 133 candidates, two days, and then we selected and sent offers to the 133 this week and there may be a few more chosen from the alternate list. we will see how that goes. there was a h50 assistant chief exam and i want to thank two of the chiefs in the room right

now, chief baker, chief thompson for really working really hard on that test. thank you so much and working with our raider, not raider, but ratter. chief luttropp and i met last week as they were rating the test. i look forward to the results of that, i think it was a really good test and really happy with it, so thank you again for that, really good work. went to a meeting on sb43, senate bill 43, which has to do with 5150 and conservatorship and any changes that will come in san francisco because of this. so, it is the 5150 were

typically just mental health, but now it is also alcohol substance use, and it can be utilized for medical real serious medical challenges as well. en someone on the street with for example, open sores all over their legs, that kind of thing, but, it also has to do with conservatorship so we'll see if that work jz if it brings real change. we need the facilities on the back end to be able to manage some of the folks that are conserved, so, but i know the city is working hard on that. had a fire prevention town hall, myself and chief luttropp and our fire marshal ken coughlin did a hall in person with fire prevention.

i think they are 50 or 60 people there maybe and we answered a lot of their questions and i thought it was a good meeting, and it is always good to communicate in person. a bunch of us went to the rec and park tree lighting, which i think was the super spreader event where i got my cold. i will blame it on phil ginsberg, why not. that was a fun event. i'm go toog mayor department head meeting to get instruction frz the budget. my current understanding is there a $800 million deficit over the next two years, and they are looking for 10 percent from every department, plus an additional 5 percent sort of contingency planning and so, working with director corso and

cd2, 3 and 4 we'll take a look at what we can offer, but we don't have that much to offer. we run a pretty tight ship and we don't have 10 percent to cut, so it is the millions of dollars and so, we are having conversations with the mayor's budget office and will continue to do so and i will continue to advocate for the department when the time comes with all the supervisors on the budget committee and on the board to tell our story. we have been asked to take on more, we always take on more, happy to do it, but we also need to be properly funded and fortunately the mayor has done that for us thus far and i have

faith that we will get through this. we will get through it. with that, i want to say happy hanukkah, merry christmas, happy kwanza, sol sts and more importantly happy birthday to cd2. i do have to leave in about 2 minutes, so i thank you for your time today. happy birthday darius. >> thank you very much chief nicholson. we'll take public comment on the chief's report. >> there is somebody approaching. >> okay, yes. chief, yes are, but you see no, you have to use responsibility and critical thinking, you [indiscernible] everybody is talking safety, but the mayor doesn't want to push

responsibility and critical thinking. the concept of it. you can't have a positive outcome without responsibility and critical thinking. [indiscernible] i know you are not go toog like this one. sorry. happy birthday, but there is a difference between a surgeon wearing a mask and anybody else. if you are not a surgeon you don't need a mask. [indiscernible] have a nice day. >> thank you very much. at this point, madam secretary, we did public comment on the chief's report? >> there is nobody on the public comment line and nobody else approaching. >> at this point, public comment is closed. commissioner feinstein. >> [microphone not on] i certainly hope you feel better soon. >> thank you.

>> some others might have stayed home, but not you and i commend your dedication and your double masking. >> thank you. >> i had one quick question and not sure if you are answer or not, but regarding the prop 43 provisions, the public guardians office has been woe fully staffed for decades now and i know conservatorships before prop 43 ran through the probate department of the san francisco superior court, and my question is, do you know if there is a plan, because you are not going to be able to get cases to court unless you have the public guardian involved and i just don't know one way or the other. not trying to make any inference, but it has

historically been very under-staffed and we are not--your folks are all going to be on the street doing what it is they need to do and there is not going to be a public guardian to pick up on the other end to bring the case forward for conservatorship if that is what is deemed appropriate. >> so, i'm not sherbet all of it. chief pang and dr. lopoc were at the meeting as well and what i can say is dph is ready to move on approximately 40 people in january, so they will start the process for that number of people in january. i don't know the ins and outs of it, but i can certainly-we can certainly find out more for you. >> alright. thank you and feel better soon. >> thank you.

>> commissioner fraser. >> thank you. thank you chief for your report. i'll be quick and qu thank you commissioner feinstein. when i was a visiting nurse in the 90's we didn't have enough conservators. when you say they move on 40 people you mean 40 people who require conservatorship? >> yes. that's my understanding. >> not 40 new staff? >> not 40 new staff, 40 people that- >> have been recommended? >> yes. >> okay. >> that thank you very much. vice president morgan. >> i'll be quick. hope you feel better chief. >> thank you. >> i won't hold you too long, but i want to make a comment about the fire prevention town hall meeting you guys do. you guys do a great job with that. i was looking at all the dates and everything and i think that is a great idea. keep it up. yeah. i think that is a great idea. thank you for that. that's all i got. >> thank you. >> thank you very much vice

president morgan. thank you chief. i know you have a meeting to go to. again, we all wish you to get better. my comment is basically thank you for the continued advocacy of the department in terms of the issue of the deficit and how we will deal with that. with that, thank you very much chief. >> thank you. >> madam secretary, i believe we have cd2. >> that's correct. chief luttropp you are next. >> good morning and happy birthday chief luttropp. now that the whole world knows it is your birthday. trying to hold back and find out how old you are but that isn't necessarily at this time. welcome, chief. >> morning. good morning president nakajo, vice president morgans,

commissioners. city attorney, maureen, command staff. deputy chief lairious luttropp and this is report for october and november of this year. my birthday present to you will be brevity i hope. i want to point out there are a couple chiefs excused in the next 15 minutes or so for a important meeting, so please do not take offense if they bound out of here. looking at the stats for october and november. no tremendous uptick in activity. some decrease in water and cliff response usual for the season and in this reporting period, we fiend ourselves in the situation we usually do with a high profile fired amly before the meeting not included in this report but i have a greater alarm to report out to you. before i report that fire, let's start with that fire. so, there was a box 5456 on

11-14 this year. the chief responsible for this fire, incident commander and create or of the report, chief baker is in the room. second alarm at 975 valencia street across liberty and 21. no injuries and cause of fire is still under investigation. 3 story apartment with two floors of apartment over commercial restale. the picture in the report is a very good discriper of the event accept the gates are not present in the first picture. this building has a light well on the bravo side which is common construction feature and you see in the picture here in the city of san francisco, but there was a events at the fire that lead it to be a higher profile and resulted in second

alarm. so, there were 4 apartments on each floor of this. the dwelling space was adjacent to a hallway, which communicated fire very easily from this common light well area, so there was fire on all floors on arrival. engine 7 reported working fire with fire visible showing on the roof line on the bravo side which is the left side of the picture. they reported working fire with smoke pushing from most openings of the building. there were also 3 occupants in the building already out on the fire escape that required rescue from the immediately arriving companies. the chief had obviously a number of decisions to make with life safety being the highest priority and all of the efforts went to the rescue of the occupants on the front and protection of everybody else still inside the building. hose lines went to interior where they encountered heavy fire in the hallway.

included in the report is recognition of that work and work of the first 2 engine companies and truck company. also acknowledge of the rescue squad included in the report. the primary job is search and rescue of people in the structure who are trapped. when you arrive at a building and esoopeople on a fire escape that is a a clear indication the common areas of the building are not safe and people not able to escape so makes the work of rescue squad high priority. the rescue did common task which is split in two teams and one went to search interior of the building and there was a report the chief received immediately issuing the second alarm there was a additional person trapped inside their apartment. the second team, the b team of the squad attempted to make entry through the tradesman. they encountered heavy fire in

the tradesman area so a fire that extended to interior, heavy volume of fire. the chief made a number of decisions that lead to successful rescue of 7 people on the scene and brought a fire that was active and progressing under control quickly. strong work by all units on the scene, and in the end, the chief recommended truck 7 for their work at this particular fire for meritorious accommodation for the rescuing of 7 people and whether the work they did, creating access through the metal gates across the front, including cutting a ventilation hole you see in the picture at the top. strong work all around, but when you arrive and there are two buildings under heavy fire and people already in need of rescue to contain to a second alarm is remarkable achievement in and of itself.

next slide, sandy. you can see the-you are looking through the wall of the bravo exposure. the amount of fire in the space and time it had to get ahead of the work of our companies had already burned through the entire sheeting of the walls. all the wood, already attacked the structural framing in this area, so that is a tremendous amount of energy that was being expend under to the building, and great great work by all. the chief-the tactics employed and strategy involved in this fire and the way that all the crews and the chief brought this under control so successfully really lead to a great transfer of information. we have a-with the graduation of the most recent class and all the junior members in the field, the chief has really

taken his time to spread the message, make sure everybody understands what occurred at the fire, what decisions were made, how they should operate moving forward. it is a initiative that will be carried out in the next year. this information sharing this transparency and taking the amount of knowledge that all the operational chiefs possess and making sure that is transmit today the next generation so everybody has the lessens that we had passed down to us from 150 years of experience of this fire department, so that that message continues to be transmitted and i thank the chief all the work he's done. i had a opportunity to sit in a number of drills he had since this event and it is events like this that lead to the success of the operations we'll talk about next week or next meeting on masonic street so i thank the chief for that. if i go back to the initial just spreadsheet of the fires,

as often the case, there are incidents lurking inside the bear numbers that don't really tell the story, so if you go to the october 2023 statistics for fires and look at number 9, which was a fire that occurred at 336 a.m., 2180 folsom street, this also had a very high potential for being a larger incident and one that would have fallnen to the report. there was a delay in reporting. the person had to actually run to the fire house to notify crews there was a fire. this is a fire where the occupants that attempted to fight the fire prior to our arrival, which we have no problem with, we teach people to use extinguishers and hope they can extinguish the fires but often that creates delay in response and all the factors were present. this is chief rabbits fire at 2180 folsom street and an event at some points would have easily been a second or third

alarm in the history of the department contained to single alarm and the remarkable good work of operations in this fire department right now, i'm proud. very proud. so, to the next slide. going to talk a little bit about apec, because obviously it was a very large important event operationally in san francisco. going into the event there was trepidation. we had butterflies, but the work of chief brown, the work of chief tong and all the associated chiefs in the planning stages lead to a very very successful event. but i just do want to give a overall statement of the impact it had on the agency. obviously at every-nsse area, national special security event area that is the areas around fair mont and moscone and

one-night at legion of honor and exploreatorium. that was a heavy lift every day for suppression apparatus. chief tong had medical supervisors, medical staff, treatment and triage in place from the ems side of the house they had a heavy lift with every motorcade requirement, every place that dignitaries were staying were requiring medical staff and there was concern going into the events, may have seen some in the press that maybe we wouldn't have staff available but as the chief said, i don't say the way she does, but everybody stepped up and there was great commitment from the agency, no problem staffing the events with our operational staff.

another anticipated, but never know which will it go is amount of coordination in what we call our emergency operation centers. the secret service had their own called the mac staffed with highest level of personnel chief. chief tong was there. the chief of ems, simon and neals were both there and from our side of the house, our operations chief our assistant chiefs, two a person staffed and maintained at high level of supervision so that the secret service always had people who could make operational decisions at any point and i think they walked way taking great deal from the experience and it kind of leads to some things i'll talk about as initiatives moving forward. we also had something called the joint hazard assessment team, which was a big lift for

our hazardous material companies. battalion chiefs and all the chiefs in battalion 2 were instrumental in the hazard assessment team so any chemical, biological explosive event we were well prepared. part was mutual aid. you may recall from the previous meeting i talked about mutual aid and framework inside the state of california. we had 3 mutual aid hazardous material teams to assist from san diego, fresno and los angelesism they were in the fire houses and interacting with staff and great asset to us but luckily no event to this nature. membership stepped for decontaminations teams, venue safety sweeps. chief coughlin, his sthaf a tremendous lift. every location, every dignitary, hotel had staff 24 hours a day to assist with

protection and insure all the fire protection systems were in place. we had membership staffing the city emergency operation. you can see right going on and on. there were a ton of people working very hard so the fire department took the lead in the emergency operation center in the city for public safety. we had also the lead in the ems portion of public safety in the emergency operation center and it dpoes goes on. people in pd. we stood up our own fire department operation center. this was a full week effort with our membership completing what is called a emergency action plan or event action plan, which is very similar to a incident action plan, which details all the work that is going to occur in the next 24 hour period and developing that

cadence and having that work come out of our membership is tremendous often in the weeks preceding and in that week werefer to it as a drill, but it was not a drill. this was a incident, an active ins dntd incident and a lot of members saw the amount of work that goes into and quick remind in the event of disaster like a earthquake that was maybe a 10th of the amount of work we would have to do. it was a good learning opportunity all around. this will be a initiative of mine next year is build ing out our commitment to emergency operation centers, and leading into what has been a long standing goal of having what is called a incident management team, so that we will have people specially trained in the different positions required to support operations and develop this kind of plan and to develop all the communications that go with this plan moving

forward. expect me to bore with more of that information. a tremendous one by all. moving to the bureau fire prevention and investigation, which is always doing great work. i want to head off any questions. when we get to page 13 and huge uptake in complaints and get to page 17 and 18 with huge up tick in noting of violations, this is a function of our finally implementing long-standing permitting of dwelling units and if you go to page-if you all looking at page 18 you will note we will have issued no notice of violation until the month of october and november, so now in these two months with issued 921 notice of violations, so the lift for the bureau fire prevention is

going to increase a great deal. chief coughlin is in communication with board of supervisors and legislation before the board that allow for compliance and third party compliance engine to come into a shop that assist greatly with that, but not the best time for us to be considering reductions in staff for the bureau of fire prevention or investigation. hidden inside all these numbers again, there is usually a story. all the addresses and the permits approved and the meetings and all that is occurring. if we go to the mta meetings, i think the story there is in your third column and that our relationship with mta and with task overall has improved to the level that we had no objections to any of their initiatives in the time period measured. it is ongoing. chief coughlin are working with the mayor office and mta to

develop a guidelines so there won't be the need for as many meetings or objections moving forward because we set on design criteria that keeps in alignment. that is a good thing to see in the report. another item of note that is hidden inside the approval of permits was an event two month period at 988 market street which is approval of permit frz the first conversion of commercial to residential space. the fire marshal office turned it around very quickly. [indiscernible] and city government overall. a great model moving forward and like to commend the oferts assistant fire marshal herald and [indiscernible] because of the speed with which they turned this project around. chief coughlin continues towork

with the board of supervisors of lithium ion battery code that will hope fully limit the number of fires that we see. it was a kind of fortisitous unfortuitous week to introduce the legislation. we had 4 structure fires tributed to lithium battery fires in that week alone. [indiscernible] a lot of work obviously associated with apec. i omitted him from the previous discussion, but there was talk at the airport of closing runways. there was tremendous amount of dignitary flow through the airport. also noted in the report is october was the month that we received the senator and her family at the airport.

[indiscernible] is finally in service. you may have heard of the boat before. it will become part of the southeast water response plan and more follow on that. he's continued his efforts to train and to make training at the airport a atrackive proposition for new membership and as he reported in the past or i reported for him, this will be a year where nobody is drafted to go to the airport. everybody at the airport will be a member of the airport in the next calendar year. at the division of training, the great work continues. the chief highlighted the two graduations that occurred in that period. 132 class in the field now and have been tremendous relief to the other membership, especially going into the holiday season. and we look forward to their progress and 30 years of great service from them, and with the h3 level 2 class that graduated, chief tong sees

release in her field too. the picture on page 47 shows a drill that occurred in-that has been a long time coming and yes, that is members of the san francisco fire department hanging from the top of the tower. sure a great time had by all, but it increases readiness and capability for technical rescue of this difficulty. other things to highlight in the month of october, chief baker is here to receive his flowers. with chief art sero and chief baker changed our approach to our annual disaster drill, windshield survey drill conducted with field operation. it became more a actual exercise and we plan to use the success of that drill in october as a initiative moving into the next year as we revamp our work groups and committees

and we'll see that drill carry out throughout the field so we are prepared in the event of a earthquake. our [indiscernible] going through the final final paces and i expect an invitation in the mail to attend the demonstration in january. yep, that's a good year. i remember talking about that a year ago; but it is on its way. and then there were all the other prep tore steps for apec including active shooter training. moving on to our nert also instrumental. october is a big month for neighborhood emergency response teams. i didn't mention fleet week in october too. tremendous fleet week as usual.

apec over-shadowed it but all regular fleet week activities did occur and did report out the interaction we had through our radio and the changes that were made. final policy issued on that so that is a nationalized policy based oen the work [indiscernible] used by other cities throughout the country. finally, the reserves, not much of note in their report but i want to commend them and thank you. they have been at all our greater alarms of late. their membership really does step up and assist in the post fire and in recovery and assistance with crews add the scene, filling bottles recollect picking up hoses, all the things we allow them to do and hope they look forward with a career with us in the future. i'm ready for any questions. >> thank you very much chief

luttropp. at this point, we'll take public comment on the chief's report, cd2. >> i don't see anybody approaching the podium and there is nobody on the public comment line. >> alright. public comment is closed. at this point, we'll entertain comments or questions from the commissioners. commissioner feinstein. >> thank you chief for your report and this was neglectful on my part but i just wanted to focus on the one item that is included under the airport that touched my family very deeply and that was the way in which this department suited up and lined up and honored her return to her home city forever her home city, and it was really-it

wasn't just the airport, it was the receiving of her casket at city hall and the honor was just truly so heart-felt and i'm so grateful to the department. it was really something. i just want to i guess we call it a shout-out, offer a shout-out and a thank you to chief shawn buford who i know is here today, and also to lieutenant christina hunter who were--i guess they were supposed to be honorary bearers but it was so heavy i think they got their work out in, but

it meant a lot to me. the thank the police and sheriff department who did a lot, but it was really this department that went to great lengths and yeah, as those who have been here as long as i have, the fire department was always very near and dear to my mother and i know she would have really truly appreciated the honor and it was a true honor, so i wanted just to say thank you. >> thank you for your kind words. >> commissioner fraser, vise president morgan any questions? >> thank you for your report chief luttropp. you guys did a great job on valencia street. my mic is on. valencia street fire. that was a big deal there.

just want to commend the engine 7 and truck 7. i imagine those are two separate units. >> correct, yeah. in the same fire house. >> okay. the only thing--the lady, the elderly lady they spoke of, i guess everyone got rescued, but they didn't speak of her anymore in the report. i hope that went well. with the elderly lady they said someone was trapped and spoke of a elderly lady and didn't speak of her anymore, but i guess she was part of the other rescues? >> seven people rescued. 3 from the front fire escape and 4 from the rear of the building so a separate fire escape off the rear. >> right. what was the bravo side again? is that the back right? >> the bravo side is left hand if you are facing the building. >> left hand, okay.

i just are want to commend all the chiefs and command chiefs on that site and chief baker and chief schwartz and chief sagenza. commend all the chiefs. you guys did a great job and you guys definitely the public appreciates you guys horoics. the adjoining properties were not damaged at all, right? >> they were damaged. as i pointed in the picture. >> sorry. >> the wall and water but the structure was saved and people were able to return to their building. >> wasn't too bad, right? >> bad enough. >> okay. alright. i was going to--on i had a few

question about fire prevention, some of the sites. you guys do reports for potential or proposed construction sites as well? you go over the planning? >> that's correct. at our permit center and plan check we review all buildings in the city of san francisco and part of the process. >> okay. >> she has been doing great work streamlining and approving the efficiency. >> okay. i know you had a lot of reports on sunnydale and those proposed project and how is all that go sng ing? >> i pleev moving apace and a benefit to our training division as they are doing demolition of the buildings, they have a lot to train in them, but i had no reports of-- >> they allowed you to train in the public housing? >> yeah, they have. the housing be removed for the

projected listed for permits and it is a good intersection between 2 parts of the operations. >> thank you chief. thank you for the report. i'll let other commissioners ask. >> thank you vice president morgan. commissioner fraser. >> thank you. chief luttropp, first of all, happy birthday. >> thank you. >> every time you give a report my mind is blown and i learn a lot, so i thank you for that. fascinating. and you mentioned you are proud and you should be, given everything that goes on here. aquatic, aerial, the receiving of senator feinstein at the airport, the fire, apec, just a incredible-inspections, incredible amount of work and variety of work that's goes on for blocks and blocks so congratulations. interesting to hear about

everything. i did have one question back early on in your report about you were going to work on emergency operation centers going forward. could you say more about what that is? >> i can. there's specific training that there is credentialing that goes with working in the centers and our chiefs are obviously capable and competent and staff across the board is capable and competent to work in that environment, but there are specific credentialing requirements that we'll be moving forward on. in the state of california obviously a heavy emphasis for incident management teams is wild fire and urban interface, which is slightly separate form of credentialing then to work in emergency operation center, so chief baker and i have been in conversation about this in the past. chief arsaro have been in

conversation with chief baker and i think we'll pursue multiple tracks of training and make a baseline competency for our captains who are approaching the battalion chief rank and battalion chiefs to have a form of the credentialing and expertise in maybe one subject area specifically so as we move forward we are a asset to any emergency operation center that stood up in the city of san francisco. >> i would underline that, asset to any emergency operation center. thank you so much. the complexity, the competency and willingness to be of service is really impressive to all of you. thank you. >> a very interesting job and if you know anybody we are hiring. >> i wish i was younger. >> thank you very much commissioner fraser. chief luttropp, i'm going to give a couple comments. as i always seem to do. thank you very much for your

comprehensive report at the commission as i always enjoy your report and how detailed that is. thank you very much for this operation component and which you pointed out in terms of working fires and pointing out different fires like the item you referred to in terms of folsom fire as well. great photos. it really does help the commission or myself as well. going to move on to fire prevention. i notice how thick fire prevention report is. again, the public doesn't see how big our packets are, but it is 36 pages and i was wondering why such a intense report and you answered it in terms of the administrative hearings and permit hearings now occurring within it. i also wanted to give a note of

appreciation to the fire marshal and all his personnel within your office as well. it is tremendous amount of work going on and also thank you for the information on the update of that process of commercial moving to housing, which we have been talking about quite a bit in san francisco, and i would be very interested as well as the commission as to how that goes. [indiscernible] of the city after covid. but thank you very much for that fire marshal as well. moving on to san francisco airport report. chief darcie. i notice a new format. i like the format. again, when people submit the department tremendous amount of work so i want to know the format and where it came from. nice format, easy to read, easy

to follow. i like the differentiation of the months of october, november. the news ongoing. i also particularly wanted to acknowledge as you commissioner feinstein noted in terms of late senator and always be the mayor of san francisco, but i really appreciate on page 41 in the news letter that dedication to the senator. i just thought that was quite beautiful myself. very respectful and very honorable, so again, the photos within the segments and also these sections, tremendously help. i will move to division of training, thank you very much chief. the two graduations we attended as well. and also the format and again, i will refer to the photos within it, because as the descriptions of the area, the photos tremendously help in

terms of what goes on within the 26 pages in that particular report as well. other then that, i just wanted to thank the department and thank everyone in your component. chief luttropp for this comprehensive report this morning. thank you very much. madam secretary, i think we have cd4? >> yes, chief tong is now up. >> good morning chief tong. >> good morning. dep uty city attorney, [indiscernible] command staff. deputy chief sanda tong. ems paramedicine. i was at the christmas tree lighting so i like to be seated while i do my presentation. >> please. >> great.

can you hear me? >> yes. >> we had our 5th cohort of 9950 program. the emt program. they had a two week orientation so working with paramedic and emt partners on ambulances getting 500 hours of experience, so they can be prepared and potentially applicants if they are interested in whether the fire department, firefighter position or the emt position with station 49. also on november 4, members of the ems division with chief [indiscernible] the staff of city emt [indiscernible] they

did a mci drill where they had 3 exercises where they are able to practice a multi-casual incident where they were able to identify patients, determine what their severity of injuries are and be able to coordinate and triage and treat all those patients. this is a program in collaboration with city emt that i know chief finds very dear to his heart to practice with these members and really just get a better sense as to how helping them better understand what it might be like if they were to be part of the multicasualty incident. on november 9, as the chief mentioned, the firefighter of the year for community service award by american legion post 456. carlos martinez who is the founder of the kids foundation

awarded this award. as chief noted, this is a group that he has spearheaded and brings 49ers, bringz other community members to el salvador to provide medical aid to very rule areas in el salvador. they are actually planning another endeavor in january, so looking forward to the reports from them when that happens. also as noted on november 22, thank you commissioner president nakajo. we graduated a class of 12 new ems and so they are already on the ambulances, this is day before thanksgiving. chief [indiscernible] did a good job providing background for apec activity. i want to note, there was a very huge lift on the part of ems and community paramedicine

to prepare for this event. we started i think planning in about march and then as the days coming up there was a lot of ramp up in terms of just trying to address the staff issue and needs changing every day, every hour sometimes. chief choker, our ems section chief operations he was really on the task of trying to just get everybody in line. we had 3 ambulances to participate in the president motorcade. three per day for the vise prez sident. one for the first lady and then 3 ambulances for china. when you think of the number of ambulances and personnel required to staff all these units, we are talking about 24/7 coverage and getting our

members to work off-duty on overtime to staff all the units. in the end we probably staffed about a third of our people on extra shifts to be able to cover whether the motorcade, events and as well as some of the special events happening around the city. we had also brought in three strike teams. these are teams that come from the state that was pre-planned. three ekeble 3 ambulances per strike team and leader. so 17 additional ambulances in the city to support any of our incidents. they were part of our regular 911 system and that just provided a extra level of service so if there was something that was catastrophic or something significant we had to address, where call volume increased significantly, they were able to be part of the

system. so we did utilize them over the 3 and a half days they were here, about 23 percent of the ems calls they responded to. also wanted to note that our street crisis team also did a lot of preparation prior to the event and during the event to insure the areas thin city where all folks that needed help were addressed. we also had issues because of the perimeter within the moscone center was so strinth, there is time the street crisis team were requested to assist a resident or other folk that was in that perimeter to be able to get to appointments and address services needed during that closed-in period so the street crisis teams were there for that. we also had number of ems captains and safety captains

staff the eoc, the city emt our fire operation center as well as police operation center and myself, chief [indiscernible] and chief choker staffing the multi-agency coordination center. all this was just supported by a number of captains in the field and logistic staff. we use a lot of extra apparatus, that means a lot of extra equipment. that means everybody had to be prepared all the things we needed to really ramp up and staff up all the apparatus was a pretty much a full time job for all. in the end, this was a great learning experience. it was a great opportunity to partner with a number of outside agencies within the state on the federal level as well as in the city, and i think we all learned a lot and we are going to be taking a lot of lessens we did learn during this event to move forward and better plan for anything that might happen in the future.

so, in this month we had a different way of showing some of the daily or monthly activities operation activities and you usually see in a narrative form. i ask chief to come up with a different way of looking at some of the numbers. this just pretty much gives more a trend i suppose and showing the number of average runs we have, the time on task of our incidents, what our market share is and our narcan use and additional information specific to cardiac arrests. there hasn't been huge shift in any of the averages and are during apec, even though we were highly prepared for increase in call volume, our call volume basically stayed the same. fortunately for us that did happen, but there was nothing particularly new in terms of some of the numbers over the

past three months. now to community paramedicine. chief simon--i think i mentioned chief was on the operation chief for that report. for community paramedicine, we had section chief of community paramedicine mike mason who attended a two day conference in alexander virginia for the national science foundation. we have partnership with the son jose university partners, dr. warten and [indiscernible] they received a grant from the national science foundation to look into [indiscernible] this was to provide some guidance from that leadership and there was a opportunity for them to collaborate with other awardees.

november 9, chief pang represented the department at a city hearing with public safety and neighborhood service board of supervisors committee to discuss the topic of treatment on demand. chief pang was able to provide a variety of data support and narratives that spoke to the department's position and understanding of the current state and demand for treatment and services. our [indiscernible] we had two of them in october and november. in october we had the department of public health comprehensive crisis director, stephanie felder. she spoke to our division and department members regarding the role the comprehensive crisis team. and also in november, we had the department of public health coordinated care and staff robin chandler and maureen

edwards and spoke about our partnership and work with them. here we see data from ems6. i wanted to note there was a change in the way we report some of the data around encounters. from october and november we now have a different way of tracking our encounters and this reflects the changes that have been made on a national level in the data fields we now collect, so the way we were collecting data changed to now reporting it in a different format, so you will see that reflected in this from now on from november on. here we just have again summary data on our street overdose response team as well as street crisis response team. we continue to provide suboxon

to opioid overdose and these numbers include the ones provided from sort as well as from our ambulance personnel who now are able to provide this medication. and finally for the feel good section, thanksgiving there were a number of activities. in the upper left corner you see a collaboration between ems and cp divisions where we got together at 1415 evans for on-duty meals. captain bird for our ems captain who came the day before and prepared 12 turkeys for all of them and then there was a bunch of other sides and everything else and then they also in that middle section you see a crew also frying turkeys on thanksgiving as well. chief mason attended the interfaith thanksgiving prayer break fast. in the middle bottom you see sumand staff and ems and fire representatives that were at

the self-help for the elderly thanksgiving meal day. a couple ambulances deliver meals to the homes of the elderly not able to attend the actual event. and in the right corner and upper right hand corner chief pang and myself along with the rest of the command staff were at the saint anth an giving thanks on golden gate. had a picture with giant outfielder austin slater more for my cousin then me. a huge fan. chief was able to serve hot chocolate with him and i got baseball tips for his kids. that is my report. thank you very much. >> thank you very much chief tong. we'll take public comment. >> we have somebody approaching.

>> i don't think anything that you said can be taken seriously. [indiscernible] because i do believe, sorry-i don't want to insult anybody. if you live in fantasy land you won't be part of the future here. if you think for example that you are surgeon when you are not, you live in fantasy land. the future will be with the truth here. [indiscernible] we don't play with fire, so it applies especially to this commission. it is not a joke. this can't last for too long anymore. we don't care, so don't

[indiscernible] the end of the year. do what you want, but next year, serious guys. you can travel. >> madam secretary, anybody else from the public wish to give public comment at this point? >> there is nobody else approaching the podium and nobody on the public comment line. >> public comment is closed. commissioners, any comments, questions for cd4 chief tong? commissioner fraser. >> thank you. thank you chief tong. what a great report. so many interesting statistics. >> could you speak into the microphone, please? >> sor ey. thank you for your report. so many interesting statistics you all collect ed. i look forward digging into more of them. i did attend the community paramedicine round table, lecture series which was

interesting and the collaboration and challenges with collaboration across agencies, so congratulations to everybody on that. one thing that caught my eye on when you were presenting, which i guess i missed before, was the number of narcan admissions, amount of narcan you are using in the field. it looks like it has gone down a bit and wondering if you attribute that to more availability in the community of that or maybe it is just random. i don't mean to make a big thing of it, but i did notice it. >> i think it is somewhat random. it fluctuates up and down. >> the services is terrific you are doing with the narcan and bup bupo more 15 interesting report and love the new format. thanks for that.

>> thank you commissioner fraser. at this point, vise president morgan. >> yeah. thank you for your report chief. i just want to commend carlos martinez for firefighter of the year. great accomplishment and i want to reiterate to all the rest of the department of all the great work you guys did during the apec convention and you know, working with all the different agencies and conjunction with all the different agencies and being prepared for anything that might happen, god forbid. i know that was a lot of preparation and planning for you guys and i just want to commend you guys and thank you guys for keeping us all safe. i would like to hear--there was something else here. thanks for saving all the

victims of cardiac arrest. i see it was a lot in that report here. that makes me feel better walking down the street. that's great work there. the treatment on demand, maybe later we can maybe have chief pang elaborate on that a little bit if okay with the president. >> of course vice president morgan. would you like to hear that? >> after the rest of the questions. >> sure. >> curious about that. that's all. that's all i have. thanks for your report chief. >> is it appropriate to get chief pang up here to address the commissioner's question? good morning to you chief pang. you heard vice president morgan's question? >> good morning president nakajo, vice president morgan, commissioners feinstein, commissioner fraser, chief

luttropp, command staff. simon pang, assistant deputy chief community paramedicine. treatment on demand is annual hearing oen the status of available treatment on demand in our city. the health department spoke, the fire department was represented as well as many other city departments and also community based organizations. our narrative was and our observation, the community's demand and interest in treatment is very low. as you could see from our statistics, most people choose to remain in the community. while our connection rate to care for street crisis and street overdose are quite good, we did note our reengagement

rates are very high. we might bring someone to a hospital because they have cooccurring medical needs or might bring someone to alternative destinations such as shelter or community clinic or treatment and then we did a lot of deep diving into the data and recognize within 72 hours the rates of reengagement with somebody either by ambulance or street crisis overdose were very high. we presented that, so we wanted to stress that people are not staying connected to care. they wanted to just highlight the fact that any transfer point because a lot of the system that are in place require transporting someone to one clinic and then intake hours at another organization and then waiting a few hours and finally getting into

wherever their intended destination is and the more transforpoint the more opportunity someone to change their mind. also the more waiting time there is, the more opportunity there are people to change their mind and ultimately people in need don't want the resources the city are offering. finally, i stress that in our opinion that residential treatment for people experiencing homelessness really would be the way for greatest success and just wanted to stress the continuing need to improve our system. >> thank you very much chief pang. vice president morgan, would you like to do follow up? >> no. that was great. thank you chief pang. thank you chief tong. >> hold on please chief pang, looks like commissioner fraser and commissioner feinstein

would like to respond. please. >> commend you chief pang on your forthrightness, because i think that is what all san franciscans see and feel, and until there is a whole lot of change that goes on not just in the law via prop 43, but in our local perceptions and coming together of people as to how we are going to go about getting these folks into treatment, because i did note and wasn't going to bring up, but i noted the reengagement and the notes and by there way, i really like the new format of the report. thank you very much. i think you need to use us, call upon us if we can be of

help as a commission to help address this, because it must be incredibly frustrating for the members that are working on this and i see it, the 72 hours, when i see sort or skrt on the street and see the same person back 2 or 3 days later and yet that is just needs to come to a end or we are just going to be chasing our tails so to speak. i commend you for not painting a picture that is just rosey, because you are here and presenting information, but that is accurate and true, and it really points out what the problems and frustrations that we all are confronting, so i thank you for your

forthrightness and of course your really very diligent work and not giving up on this. since i have been on the commission you have had your nose to the grindstone on starting with ems 6 and you keep at it, so thank you for your perseverance and really appreciate your as i said, forthrightness. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner fraser. >> thank you chief pang. thank you to my sister commission, what she said. i agree. i just wanted to note that the lecture series i attended this was a topic. it not completely in the open it was definitely a topic and what you said about the clients don't want the services that we have to offer is a really important point.

i think we can all embrace that. we witness it every single day on our streets and i think we are ready to help do whatever we can to change that because it is really become to the point of being obsurd that people want residential treatment and we don't have any. very very very little compare today the need and thank you for the report. >> you're welcome. >> that you -thank you very much commissioner fraser. my only comment, thank you very much for your comprehensive report and also to you chief tong, thank you for your dedication. just your hard work and i do feel we all do, hope you feel better. thank you very much. madam secretary. >> item 5, fire commission meeting calendar 2024 discussion and possible action to adopt the 2024 fire commission regular meeting

calendar. >> colleagues in your packet is the dates for 2024 that hopefully you reviewed at this particular time from january and again please note that the month of november 13, december 11, 2024 there is only one meeting in november as traditionally we schedule as well as in december, there is only one meeting as of today, which is the last meeting of the calendar year. this has been introduced. any comment, questions in terms of adoption of the calendar please? >> do we need a motion? >> madam secretary, >> yes, we do. >> i move we adopt the calendar. >> thank you very much commissioner fraser. >> we also need to call for public comment. >> excuse me, let me have public comment. >> there is nobody approaching the podium. and nobody on the public comment line.

>> alright. the public comment is closed. i think i jumped the gun and had commissioner fraser do a motion and vise president morgan- >> i second to adopt the calendar. >> vice president morgan adopts the calendar. [roll call] the calendar has been adopted. the motion was unanimous. >> thank you very much. >> item 6, commission president report and update. report and update from fire commission president steven nakajo. >> thank you very much madam secretary. i basically asked the secretary to put this on the agenda knowing this is the last meeting of the calendar year and i wanted to touch base on very short items in terms of information. as you all know, we have been indicated we are now in the process of putting the job description announcement for our positions office.

if you recall, there was an e-mail sent from hr asking the commissioners to give any indication or input in terms of that job description. internally, that falls as a point of cd3 and generally as the interviews, recollecting from past practice, these resumes come in, there is a team that we have comprised of chief nicholson, command staff that looks at these paper interviews, screening of resumes and then there is interview process that occurs. question that was posed because this is our [indiscernible] engagement of the fire commission, it is conversation between myself and chief nicholson and i have expressed desire to have one of our

commissioners be part of that first phase interview stage, if you will. i would like to as president of commission use the prerogative of appointing and asking commissioner fraser with all her experience being a retired nurse, i still believe practice in some ways legitimately. just putting that out there because there is a process one has to go through to still be practicing. >> yes, i have a valid license. >> alright. thank you for that commissioner fraser. i asked commissioner fraser if she would sit with the chief and command staff in the first preliminary interviews. the goal of that is to bring two candidates as last time that we went through a interview with the office and the full commission has the prerogative to do interviews with the two top candidates and

basically select with input from cd 1 and command staff and our liaison, commissioner fraser. commissioner fraser, have you indicate your willingness to participate on that level? >> yes, i have. i discussed it with you and the chief and happy to participate in the interviews and report back to the full commission as we hopefully get great candidates. >> thank you very much. we are now part of a process that--please give feedback on the job description. the point internally of cd3, now we have commissioner fraser involved as well so we can start the process. point of information, dr. [indiscernible] is i believe leaving retiring in march? >> correct. >> is there a date? >> i do not have the date. >> i thought the end of march i

believe. >> i the goal is try to have dr. [indiscernible] present in the process to start this off and again, we are mid-december, so i just wanted to announce that movement in terms of the physician's office. my second item is that, we adopted the calendar as you know. officially as president of the commission my duties will end january 24, 2024. we have one more meeting in january on january 24. we have our regular meeting i will facilitate and then have commission elections. with the result of that election, the new president and vice president will start their process on the month of february. just everybody wanted to be aware of the calendar and next

process occurring within that. the third thing i have on the calendar and i checked with the mayor's appointment office is three of the commissioners were up for reappointment on january 15, 2024, vice president morgan, commissioner feinstein and myself. generally you-just commenting, we usually don't know what the status is. it is the prerogative of the mayor, and generally in my experience, this is middecember, we usually don't know if our status is going to be to continue. i believe all the commissioners have indicated willingness to participate and remain on the commission, and i did get a check-off with the mayor's staff person on that to make that announcement that we have been reappointed by mayor

breed, which is myself, commissioner feinstein, commissioner morgan, which i wanted to announce as good news. congratulate-- >> [indiscernible] >> vice president morgan and again commissioner feinstein, myself. at this point, i know all are grateful for the mayor in terms of her trust and confidence in our appointment. for me personally,b it is a great joy to be able to work with our colleagues on this commission. i think we have a great team with commissioner collins, commissioner fraser, commissioner feinstein, commissioner morgan and myself and just totally excited to be able to do that. somewhere along the line i believe around january 15, there will probably be an official swearing in, so i hate the use the word official or legitimate, but the way san

francisco is and things are, you don't know until all the signatures are on the paper, so i wanted to say that as well and announce that to the command staff and to the public so everybody is knowledgeable. the last item is what i call the holiday comment and good wishes. all the commissioners at this point will be given opportunity. i particularly just wanted to thank and wish all well of all the members of the command staff. some who are here. chief luttropp, fire marshal and director corso, chief thompson, chief baker, chief tong, chief [indiscernible] chief pang, chief ma, chief buford, captain tom, madam secretary, city attorney, grateful grateful so much for

your participation and for your support to the fire department and this commission, and from the bottom of my heart all the best wishes to you and your family and good health and enjoyment. commissioners would you like to say anything at this point as we conclude this segment? >> sure. yeah. thank you for letting you be of service and thank for successful year and i think it was a good year, especially following what the apec convention and like chief luttropp said, we barely noticed fleet week. it came and went. a lot of events this year and i think you guys handled yourself with upmost class, best of class and like you always do and represent the city well. it is honor to serve you guys,

it really is and i like to continue on and have another great year in 2024. whatever i can be of service and help you guys out and any of your tasks, please feel free to get at me and we can work it out, alright? thank you. >> thank you very much vice president morgan. commissioner feinstein. >> yes. thank you mr. president. of course i echo all of your comments and vice president morgan's comments. i have to say that when i was contacted and an indication came from the mayor's office that she was going to be seeking to reappoint me for another term, which means for those of you that have to do it, you get to fill out yet

another form, 700. i think i'm now up to 2 dozen in my governmental services, but it is worth it and i have to say, i'm particularly interested because there has yet to be a meeting where i haven't learned just a tremendous amount. i find the work that each of you does so diverse and done by a diverse group of individuals and it's courage, it's strength, it's training, it's a fearlessness. i need to cut that tower picture out of my packet, because it just gives me goose bumps to look at it. i have so much respect for all of you in this room today as

well as all those people in the fire house or on a rig of some kind at this point, and you all have been so helpful and instructing and sharing and showing up and just being there. when they say the fire department is a family, i really believe that. i didn't know that four years ago when i started, and you're all there for each other and you're there for us and there for the citizens and in so many different ways. it is just amazingly impressive and i'm just very very proud to be sitting here. we'll see come january if i'm still sitting here or not, but with any luck i will be and i wish you all a happy holiday.

i hope they are quite. one never knows, but hope they are quite and enjoyable and you enjoy your friends and family, because know you are greatly appreciated by all of us and i know that for sure. all the happy that go with the holidays, enjoy them and thank you. thank you for your dedication, service and self-lessness and willing to share that what you know with the rest of us that will continue to learn. thank you. >> thank you very much commissioner feinstein. commissioner fraser. >> keeps blinking. alright. thank you president nakajo. i would like to say that president nakajo speaks for us very well and thank you for your comments president nakajo.

my fellow commissioners, i have to say i have been on lots of committees in my life and this is one that i truly experience the feeling of a colleague and colleagues and friends in the work we do together, and that's i think attributable to you and the reason we are all here, which is san francisco fire department. i know you didn't get to vote on us, but hope you vote yes as we go forward into 2024. i get that feeling. i am often asked by friends and people in the community, how do you like being on the fire commission? i answer with the same way every time, i love it and i truly love it. what i love about it is, everything i learn, the ways i feel impressed and mostly grateful for the service and many things commissioner feinstein has already mentioned. i enjoy the work, i enjoy being part of something as i think the chief said it. we do a lot and always ready to

do more, and that's the kind of attitude that it makes life better to be part of a group of people that feel that way and work that way. so, i will see you all on my next tour of the fire house decorations ck that is coming up. good time last year. i was sworn in on zoom, but being here in person with all of you is absolutely wonderful so i wish you a healthy holiday season more then anything that you all stay healthy and enjoy time off with family and friends. thank you. >> thank you very much. as always message of appreciation goes out to the command staff. all in the room, but it goes beyond this. chief nicholson and commissioner collins and every member within this department. with that, thank you so much and we are going to go into our next item.

madam secretary. >> we need to call public comment on this item. >> on my item? >> item 6, correct. >> public comment on item 6. >> there is nobody approaching the podium and nobody on the public comment line. >> public comment is closed. >> item 7, public comment on item 8. public comment on all matters pertaining to item 8 including public comment on whether to hold item 8b in closed session. >> madam secretary, any public comment on item 8? >> no. >> sir. >> yes. it is last one. it means you are going to be in closed session, right? i hope--it isn't a conspiracy when it is closed session because if the public can't know what you are talking about.

it is always a story anyway. okay. at some point, sorry i will be sarcastic, i apologize, i shouldn't apologize. at some point you have to answer because you didn't have the situation in san francisco when there is a fire and trees don't burn, but at some point you have to [indiscernible] because you should know we are different so called wild fires going on around here and the trees don't burn. >> i'm going to interrupt you on item-- >> yes. >> the settlement. >> absolutely. never mind. have a good meeting. >> thank you very much. madam secretary, anybody else? >> there is nobody approaching the podium and nobody on the public comment line. >> public comment is closed on

this item. at this time-- >> now we will vote on whether to conduct items 8b in closed session. the commission may hear item 8b in closed session pursuant to government code section 54956.9a, c, and d and administrative code section 67.10d1. >> alright. commissioners we need a vote to go into closed session. >> i like to make a motion. >> thank you very much. >> second it. >> commissioner fraser second. >> president nakajo, aye. feinstein, aye. we will now go into closed session on unanimous vote at >> [meeting back in session] >> okay, we are back in open

session. december 13, 2023 at 1056. item 9, report on any action taken in closed session as specified in california government code section 54957.1 in the san francisco administrative code section 67.12b. the commission voted unanimously to recommend that the board of supervisors approve the settlement. item 10, vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussions held in closed session as specified in san francisco administrative code section 67.12a. >> thank you very much madam secretary. at this point colleagues, we will need a vote if you wish to vote on this item. or motion. >> i like to make a motion not to disclose.

>> thank you very much vice president morgan. we need a second. >> second. >> thank you very much commissioner fraser. >> president nakajo, aye. commissioner feinstein, aye. >> the motion issuenanimous to not disclose discussion held in closed session. item 11, adjournment. >> the meeting is adjourned. [meeting adjourned] [music] my name is husheem

anderson a lieutenant with the san francisco fire department born and raised in san francisco, grew up in western addition. both my parents worked for the city. my dad was a custodian with san francisco school district and mom a muni driver. when i grew up in san francisco i never thought of the fire service as a career. not because i didn't want to be a firefighter, i just didn't know anything about it and it was literally the experience of trying to figure what i was going to do with the next part of my life where i decided to go to city college and take a couple classes. that is when i discovered there was actually a fire science program program emt program and paramedic program. if it wasn't for that opportunity to get the education training and meet several mentors that are some of my grood friends today, i don't think i ever would are have pursued this career. i was interested in becoming a paramedic so i did

work experience at the ems division when it was actually in the presidio, completed that program, did my paramedic internship at the same time i volunteered with san francisco fire reserve and able to learn a lot of hands on skills associated with becoming a firefighter. san francisco went through a period of 7 years without hiring, so we hired about a 130 people off of the 2001 test which is the first fire test that and ever sat for, so i took that test, did pretty well on it test, interviewed, didn't do as well as i liked so they hired 130 people off that list and didn't hire again for another 7 years, so here i was training to do a job where i was really excited, but there were no jobs after 911 so things slowed down and once the fire department started hiring again i was in the second class hired full time in 2012. because

of the experience i had here at city college, it was always really important for me to be able to give back. so, when i got to the fire department, i didn't have a college degree, and in order to teach at a community college you need a college degree, so quhile i while working as a firefighter i got my degree from saint mary college so i got a bachelor degree. i teach firefighter 1 and 2 curriculum for the program at the college. after i promoted to lieutenant, then i applied to be a instructor down at the training academy because i always loved to teach. my past experience is really helpful in terms of how i'm able to break down information and pass it alodge to brand new

firefighters. so, for myself, i didn't know very many people of color who worked in the san francisco fire department. as african american working in this department i always felt a obligation to be that example, to provide a roadmap for folks who look like me, who come from communities that i came from to make sure they have the same opportunities. now as a san francisco firefighter i can tell you if you work hard, you get along with people, you will be welcomed into this department but we can also do a better job of representation. to me as a company officer when i'm on the fire engine or truck it is so helpful to have a rig where members can relate to the public we respond to. to me that cultural diversity of the members on our fire engines, on the ladder trucks is important because if we can do a better job of representing the community that we are serving, i think we do a better job of relating to the

community that we are serving, and to me that is something that is really >> important. >> shared spaces have transformed san francisco's streets and sidewalks. local business communities are more resilient and our neighborhood centers are more vibrant and lively. fire blocks and parking lanes can be for seating and merchandising and other community activities. we're counting on operators of shared spaces to ensure their sites are safe and accessible for all. when pair mets, firefighters and other first responders arrive at a scene, they need clear visual

access to see the building entrances, exits and storefront windows from the street. that means parklets should be transfer in the areas above inches above the sidewalk level. it's best if these areas are totally unobstructed by transparent materials may be okay. you can check with fire department staff to make sure your site meets visibility requirements. emergency response crews and their equipment need to be move easily between streets, sidewalks and buildings, especially when they are using medical gurneys, ladders and other fire fighting tools. that means that parklet structures need a three foot wide emergency feet every 20 feet and 3 feet from marked parking spaces and emergency access gaps need to be open to the sky, without obstructions, like canopies, roofs, or cables and should always be clear of tables, chairs, planters and

other furnishings. emergency responders need to use ladders to reach windows and roofs to buildings and the ladders need unobstructed overhead clearance and room to be placed at a 72-degree angle against the building. clearances needed around the ladders to move equipment and people safely up and down. so not all parklets can have roofs ask canopies depending on the width of the sidewalk in your area. please make sure that your electric cables are hung so they are out of the way and (indiscernible) to the structure, they can be pulled down by firefighters. cable connections need to be powered from an outdoor reciprocal in the building facade because hard wire connections are much more difficult to disconnect quickly. these updates to the shared spaces program will ensure safety and accessibility for everyone, so we can all enjoy these public spaces. more

information is available at sf dot gov slash shared spaces. >> this is one place you can always count on to give you what you had before and remind you of what your san francisco history used to be. >> we hear that all the time, people bring their kids here and their grandparents brought them here and down the line. >> even though people move away, whenever they come back to the city, they make it here.

and they tell us that. >> you're going to get something made fresh, made by hand and made with quality products and something that's very, very good. ♪♪ >> the legacy bars and restaurants was something that was begun by san francisco simply to recognize and draw attention to the establishments. it really provides for san francisco's unique character. ♪♪ >> and that morphed into a request that we work with the city to develop a legacy business registration. >> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from

italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes

when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at

tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's

changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important. ♪♪ >> the service that san francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪♪

so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪♪ and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started

trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city. pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor. >> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953.

and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff. at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too.

♪♪ welcome to the small business commission meeting on december 11th, 2023. the meeting is being called to order at 4:31 p.m. this meeting is being held in person in city hall, room 408 and broadcast live on govtv. the small business commission thinks media services and govtv for televising the meeting, which can be viewed on govtv two or live streamed at sfa tv.org. we welcome the public's participation during public comment periods. there will be an opportunity for general public comment at the end of the meeting and there will be an opportunity to comment on each