>> good afternoon the meeting will come to order. welcome to the march 20 issue 20 tormeeting of budget and appropriation committee i'm supervisor connie chan. chair and i'm joined by supervisor melgar and walton. hopefully by vice chair mandelman and president aaron peskin our clerk is brent jalipa i would like to thank jeanette from sfgovtv fer broadcasting the meeting. mr. clerk. >> a reminder to those in taengs to sill reasons cell phones and electronics. should you have documents to be included as part of the file submitted to myself. public comment will be taken on each item on the agenda. when your item xhg come up and

public comment is called line up on the west side to your right and my left along the kurt anxiety not necessary to provide comment i invite to you fill out a sxard leave them on the tray to the left of the doors. you may submit public comment in writing e mill them to myself brent. jalipa @sfgov.org. if you submit comment via e mill tell be forwarded to the supervisors and included part of the official file. you may sends written comments postal service to city hall, 1 dr. carlton b. goodlett place room 244, san francisco, california, 94102. items acted upon today will appear on the agenda of march 26 unless otherwise stated. >> thank you, and want to remind clotheses and public that for items this have budget and

legislative analyst report we have the department presentation first followed by budget and legislative analyst. then take question and public comment. and today all items on the agenda have budget and legislative analyst report. with this, mr. clerk, call item one. >> item 1 an ordinance appropriating 500,000 of upon general fund reserves to the san francisco puc for inspect analysis on sea level rise in the hunter's point ship yard in fiscal 22-23. madam chair. why i will hand this over to the legislation author, sponsor, supervisor walton and lead us through this item. >> thank you, so much. chair chan and clothes. in response to the silv grand jury burr ed problems in the

buried process the ship yard report if june 14, 22 the board of supervisors conducted i hearing on a report and decided in the response commissioning an inspect third party study to predict the future shallow groundwater surface. fullies and potential groundwater with materials and planned modifications to the site under sea level rise. is sdmes we will w to secure the resources for the inspect commission third party study. recommendation one, ask by september first of 20 foo the mayor or administrator direct the office of resilience and planning in collaboration with the department of public health to commission and manage an independent study of upon hunter's point to predict the surface flows and potential

interactions of hazardous materials the board of supervisors was not asked by silv grand jur to respond to number one but agree in commissioning an inspect third party study is necessary. recommendation are two stated that the mayor and the board of supervisors collaborate to provide fun for example study rmdzing in recommendation one. after solidifying responses to grand jury report via the resolution, i met with the director of the office of community investment and infrastructure, as ocii the main department this works with the navy, epa, hunter's point, and the developer and residents to gauge the cost the independent stchld 500 thousand dollars would secure and allow for us to conduct the study and in listen with the resolution approved by this board of supervisors.

today we have before us an ordinance appropriating 500 thousand dollars of the general fund reserve to the san francisco puc for independent analysis on sea level wise and groundwater impact in the hunter's point ship yard for fiscal 23/24. i want to note that this pot of funding was identified and working with the controller's office. as we are always concerned about the city's fiscal health. the to beingic environment on and around the shipyard makes this a major priority as we continue to push toward complete clean up. >> ocii will cooperate with the san francisco puc commission on procuring the appropriate entity for the research and will work on cordination with the navy who has the did thea, epa and all environmental regulators moving forward. in light of the silv grand jury findings and the navy 5 year

review that demonstrated radio logical objects were identified during excavation of soil and areas that were not considered rologically impacted. there is a potential for rological objects to be present below two feet below grounds. we are shore lining expansion occurred since 1946. and the navy stated that it recognized climate change is occurring and based on a screening level climate assessment. sea level rise is the variable of climate change that could affect the rem dees at the shipyard. we need study in order to prepare a path forward in ensure safety around sea level rise and grounds water. >> i know the question has come up yet puc? budget supplementals for ocii

requires state approval. the puc coordinated with ocii is more efficient for the city to satisfy the resolution and response to the silv grand jury report and address the occurrence around toxins, sea level rise and grounds water pertaining to the shipyard. in conversations there is also the question of -- why will we not take this out of the puc budget and take it out of the general fund reserves? as i stated, ocii the department that works with the developer navy, epa and community on the shipyard. the puc is gracious in leading this work in the name of safety for residents community and also as stated, we did have conversations with the controller's office to identify this pot of funds to conduct the study. and lastly. i state that i do have small

amendments. on page 1 line 13. change 2022, 2023 to 2023/24. and on page 2, line 7 the same change from 22-23, 23-24. thank you. >> thank you. >> hello nick from budget legislative analyst office. item one an ordinance that would appropriate 500 thousand dollars from the general reserve to the puc to under take a study to assess sea level rise and contamination hunter's point shipyard. money moved from the reserve now have to be repaid in until amount in the next budget year. consider the approval to be a policy matter. >> thank you. president peskin. >> through the chair thank you, to -- supervisor walton.

i heard what you said about did that mean that you are changing the source of funds from the general fund reserve to the enterprise agencies? thank you. supervisor peskin. i'm suggest the resource come prosecute general fund reserve. and where they go in the puc i think should be determined by the department head. >> so -- i mean --00 certainly agree with the need. i guess my question is -- whether or not the source of funds should be funds from the enterprise agency opposed to the city's general fund reserve. and curious whether or not surety pu c would in the be happy but this does in the mean

we can't do temperature wlo we can have the source of funds be the puc's reserves? >> if i may, through the chair. supervisor, president peskin. as stated in my attempt to explain a bill this would not typically about a function of the puc. and more so would be something handled through the office commune and investment infrastructure. but because of the state implications with doing a supplemental and the bureaucracy. our city departments are served for efficiency to move forward and getting the study conducts which why wore asking the puc to do this you are right it would not be excited about using that resource we did have conversations with the controller's office and identifyying this as a source of

funding for this. >> yes, i mean, i immediately came to the same conclusion that relative to department of finance and ocii that is prebl a difficult hill to climb. i money frankly, this should be paid for by the united states department of the navy as far as i'm concerned. >> agree. >> and this may be a hill that none 've us can climb. but this is, this was an asset of federal government and the department of defense. but i would argue as i attempt to do as much as i can to preserve our reserves. this there actually is a nexus for the puc. and the nexus is that the pu c commission has a pluthera of subsurface utilities this will be impacted by groundwater rise.

by saul nayed groundwater rise. utility pipes. electrical infrastructure, everything this is down under or a lot behalf is under is actually assets of the puc that would be jeopardized by a rising ground water table. i would say, that there is a nexus. i mean look i think we all agree that we need get our hands around this thing and that the study needs to happen and the knowledge will inform. what we do. but i think there is a credible argument this we can make that this actually is something that the puc, which agency was actually one of the first if not the first agency to address the challenges of climate change. i think this is what -- david was the first climate change

person in the city's government of as far as i know still doing that. i don't think it00 eye want to put word in walton's mouth i don't think it matters where the money come from as long as we pursue the policy and i would -- may be the puc can tell us why that nexus does not exist. i would put it on the puc than the general fund at least this year. supervisor walton >> thank you. president peskin at the risk sounding elementary. i i am not concerned where the resource come from as long as this gets done. and of course would look to colleagues to work on what pot of resource would be more present and i'm okay with that i want to be sure we get the resource for the study and it gets conducted.

>> thank you. i. ed to give the opportunity to either the controller or the mayor's office of finance to be able to speak about the source of funding that is most appropriate and available so we can move this forward and it is my goal today as the chair of the committee to move this item forward to full board to start doing this. i just wanted quicklyax knowledge supervisor walton's amendment. to change the year. from 22-23 to 23-24 so reflected in this fiscal year not the next fiscal year. so we are clear about the current fiscal year, current budget and the current reserve we have not the upcoming one so that we can move forward with this. and i see that there say conversation going on there i want to callum deputy city

attorney. and pierson on or -- controllers can speak on the amendments for this fiscal year change and the source of funding. kwo devon mc colley. first in religion to the amendment, we have changed the fiscal year from previously fiscal 23 last year to the current fiscal year. fiscal 2023-24. that is the current fiscal year. i will let mayor's office peek to the source of funding. the original intent of this legislation as drafted to use the general reserve of which we validated fundings. wes can to the extent directed research back with the puc.

>> the funding source if that is what is decided. gi wanted to -- point to the deputy city attorney about the amendments today. if we make amendments first the year. to make sure reflect the current and not the previous fiscal year and then -- i gallon back to the mayor's office about the source of funding. >> deputy city attorney. i understand the ma'ams have been approved they are substantive would require a continuance. >> okay. and does the mayor's office financement to talk about our budget and finance? >> sure. good afternoon. i share the occurrence president peskin raised about drawing from the general fund reserve require you to deposit next year. had a brief conversation with

the puc at first glance there is in the a 96 us. more work could be done. we can invite city attorney to opine and figure out a nexus and whether there are fundses went puc or another source. we have not had the time to do this upon analysis. >> thank you. >> supervisor melgar. >> thank you, chair chan. and thank you. i share president peskin's desire to preserve the general fund. however, i also see that -- aside from the infrastructure the puc has, there are people who live there and -- we have known for decade this is there is a possibility of toxics that may impact the population of the sea level rises. i have a few friend who is live in the shipyard.

and i trust supervisor walton's leadership in making sure we get when we need to know what is coming at us. and so i see the 96 us with the general fund not just the puc and i would support moving forward with supervisor walton's language. >> i think my and supervisor peskin >> >> i wanted to reveal the side bar conversation i think mrs. jennings said. changing the source to the puc from the general fund may be possible but wield our date city attorney would need to consult with the city attorney for the puc before we could do that. it may be possible. >> thank you. >> birch call on supervisor walton.

i want to understand, first i want to acknowledge the fact if we change just the amendment proposed by supervisor walton today, to the current instead of the previous physical to current. we than is substantive it is designed to form we make the amendments tell wait a week. with that said that i'm my second question to the assistant district attorney attorney is that in the effect we identify puc or alternative funding source, to be the source and this we amend that next week to amend the funding source, will this further delay the legislation and will deemed substantive or the dollar amount does not change t. is changing the funding source? >> deputy city attorney. yes, if next week we are able to

approve an amendment that would draw the funds from the puc budget instead of general reserve that would be a substantive amendment and require another continuance of a week. where understood >> supervisor walton. why thank you, chair chan. i think we were in the going in the same direction i was most certainly going to note the amendments were subassistant and i have continue for a week anyway so that will give me time to have conversations with the puc and see if this is something this they are ash menable to or we need to continue to push from the journey fund. reserve and i'm okay if we come become with alternative funding source as long as we do what is most responsible. >> i think that it sounds to me the collective low the entire body is in agreement to support this allocation of ungdz if. it is just to identify the

funding source. and this we are committed to moving this forward and so with that let's go to public comment on this item. and we will come back to make the amendments to reflect the current fiscal year. and continue and identify potential aisle funding source. >> we invite public who wish to address this item one. mou is your opportunity to approach. >> we have no speakers. >> public comment is closed. colleagues i would like to supervisor walton would you like to move. >> move to sept amendments i read on record. >> second. >> and a roll call. >> on that motion by member walton and seconds by chair chan to the amendments by member walton, vice chair mandelman. >> aye >> member melgar. >> aye >> member walton.

why aye. >> member peskin. >> aye >> chair chan. >> aye. >> we have 5 aye's >> the motion passes. >> and would you like to move to continue? >> sorry. must have to continue the amended item to our next budget and appropriation meeting. >> second. >> roll call. >> and on is that motion, to continue this ordinance as amended to the march 20th meeting of the committee. i will note that next week is our scheduled reschedule meeting at 4 o'clock. >> with the youth commission. why and on that motion. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> member melgar. >> aye >> member walton. >> aye. >> member peskin. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> aye. >> we are 5 aye's.

jot motion passes. >> and mr. clerk call 2. >> item 2 an ordinance appropriating 4.8 million in ambulance service ref now in the fire department deappropriating 85 million from permanent salaries, fringe benefits and projects and appropriating 90 million to over time in the d. emergency management. fire department, san francisco puc commission. sheriff's department and police department. in order to support the department's projected increases and over time required per the code. and this ordinance requires a 2 third's vote of the approval for 14.5 million. >> thank you and we have director doony here. >> good afternoon i will kick us off today. so buffer is an ordinance appropriating deappropriating funds within the city's current

budget with the exception of the fire department that is appropriating new revenue from ambulance revenues. otherwise it is reappropriating funds toward over time. for the departments on the list. so. after i give an over view of the departments will follow me. say a few words about levels of over time and then they can be available for questions after the full presentation or worn by one. budget chair i am look to you how you want to sequence the departments. >> there is one amendment which i e mail third degree morning i have copies here if anybody needs to see them that is adjusting 2 of the source toward police over time. it does not change the numbers before you. but it does point to slightly less fundses from an area and more from another. just to do a conciliation of error the bla did last week. i will hands it over to the

police department. >> good afternoon members i'm catherine mc mc guire from strategy management bonjour oast police department. just going to walk you through a few slides they are all in the packet there you have and i will jump in while directors get us set up. >> really just wanted give full over view that we are using salary savings. to shift over to over time. there is no new general fund money here. all of the money is already in our budget we are from salaries to specifically over time. saul rows and premium specifically over to over time. i say you might expect salary

savings that is really due to, thank you, is due to the staffing circumstances that you all well and not we talked about a lot at in this chamber. in the chambers we can go to the next slide. and then that is a reminder but that -- our recommended staffing level system 2, where are 74 with 1, 474 currently on hired and out on duty. with a difference of 600 sworn members shy. we can jump to the next slide it is the current circumstances with the with respect to over time extended at mid year the 6 month mark. will race through these. the this chart irrelevant

visualizes the what we had happen in the last 7 years or so including this one. where you see staffing is slumping down and the over time coming up at that point at which in fy22 we dipped down below a number that required then back fill on staffing. prior to that the on duty resource to back fill folks who call in the sick. we were now not able to do that. >> and then on the last slide here is really focused on solutions to the staffing problem. and happy to talk more about that but i think we have we talked with you all a little bit and then it also sort of -- talks about a bit how we the things we have realized as a result of the use of over time.

so burglars downful theft is counsel autotheft is down. and the so -- we feel this over time has been necessary. it is all in our budget and we will continue to help support our officers using over time and support the communities and until we are fully or back to staffing level we would not have to use it. so heavily. i can hundred it over to the fire department or answer questions >> once i think all the departments finish we gallon to the bla and dive in the questions depending on the members preference.

>> good afternoon. mark courseo finance and planning at the fire department here to give a summary and answer questions you may have on over time. you know we have minimum staffing levels on fire suppression where if on the daily level not over all staff if we have a vacancy upon due to an absence we need to back fill with over time to meet the staffing levels. 2 drivers for over time the total number of people we have work nothing suppression and ems and paramedicine and the amount of time they are off for various

leave. during covid, we had major issues with about this. do you have to the pandemic had to reduce our hiring and so we had a big hole of separations and retirements that we were not able to immediately back fill. so we are in the process with the support of the mayor's office and the board of supervisoros hiring plan where we are making improvements year over year to improve the net level staff am the second piece is our relief rate the time off and during the pandemic with disability and covid and sick time we saw an increase in that which drove our over time up a bit. and that is coming down as well. we are working both closely with the department of human resource the mayor's office and as we recover we are seeing that level drop not to prepandemic but making a great improvement

there. so you see on -- the chart here. you see prepandemic levels of over time and a spike during the pandemic due to staffing and relief rates. you see as we have hired and improve staffing levels, this over time come down. and we are work with the per se's office on budgeting for this over time in the next budget process. in the current year, we are still anticipated less over all staffing than what we had. we have been filling the vacancies with over time and requesting to reallocate salary and fringe to cover and additional one time revenues we received through state reimburse ams on the ambulance revenue side. happy to pass that or answer questions.

sheriff's department. >> good afternoon.

my name is presidentric i'm the cfo for sheriff's office. i think we have a couple slides if we are, great. >> the current slide provides an upon summary of our over time for the last couple fiscal years, as you see the main dwfrns this year versus the prior years has been due to back fill. we have had -- several years of reduced hiring with the reduced deputies rely upon over time to meet staffing needs. 15 opinion 6%. and the other item is the cost living adjustments has increased by 23% during this same period and this makes some of the difference of why the cost

increased from fy19 to 24. if you go. the vaerns with the number of deputy this is we hire exclude our separations. in fiscal year 22 >> and we are at 720, sorry.

we have a deficit the next slide shoes the ratio of work performed. we had approximately the year 19 -- over time for the current fiscal year. we will have about within.2 million. year to date. the over time a 12% reduction in over time. we relion over time to meet staffing needs and will have to continue to do so until we are able to improve our staffing through hiring. and we will continue to rely on over time and prop f and to prop f temp refer hiring to meet

staffing needs. >> good afternoon. chair chan and supervisors maryland the director of dem. we are just 2 quick slides showing our over time for current fitsical year and what has been driving this is a lower number of candidates and staffing issue. >> need and this year first classes we had 7 and 7. and of those this does not result in the total number from

the classes. this year primary low the way we are addressing this and i do think that there is a light at the end of tunnel for us. we never had before. we had increased budget. and most important we get a deep dive into our process both for recruitment and for the academy and so we have been able to expedite the process that it tames to be a dispatcher including moving the performance exam from in person to on line.

personal history to them earlier in the process. and another one of the tasks the first hurdles to get through is online. and we have had more we added more background investigators and changed some of the order of things. and that head seemed to help. i don't want to jinx anything but we are looking good for the next two classes. >> thank you. >> puc. >> good afternoon. chair chan i'm jeremie with the puc. the puc over time is due to wet weather response. 600,000 for wastewater to plan and response to extreme weather events temp refer installation and staffing during heavy rains

deploy am of field crews and staffing of the north point wet weather facility. 350 thousand for burt is due to wet weather the natural resources w to repair damage to watershed infrastructure. and the water equality conducted wet weather sampling to meet requirements. we have increased the over time in the budget that you will see in may to avoid the need for supplemental. as the costs are due to weather legal be a level of unpredictability. i'm joined by staff from the wastewater and finance if you have questions. thanks. >> >> item two is proerpgdz ordinance it increases over time budgets for public safety departments and the puc89 million dollars largely funded by savings from vacant positions

with the exception being for the fire department they have 4.8 mission and ambulance revenue but than i are apply to the over time budget. as we discuss in the our report, this is largely due to minimum staffing requirements in the departments. plus vacancies went departments. there are a couple of exceptions as noted by the puc over time is driven by wet weather events but in,dition to that the police and sheriff's departments are using over time to funds public safety interventions in the tenderloin that don't have to do with staffing requirements. there is no this ordinance is moving money within the over all city budget well is in draw on the general reserve. recommend approval of item two. >> thank you. >> i don't see anyone on the

roster. supervisor walton. >> thank you, chair chan a question for the police department. where is the love for the southeast sector. everything mentioned areas of increased staffing and i did not hear about. >> good afternoon, supervisors a.m. from the san francisco police department. a lot of resources are being used for district 10. in the terms of violence reduction. investigations that are being done by the community balance response team. by our crime gun investigation center. and it is paying off. we are seeing a reduction in crime and homds the work is happening and i don't think we have any specific data now around d10 but glad to provide that to show you how much over time is spent there. why i adopt to note that, you

know this has been a fairly quiet year in terms of violent incidents in d10 most certainly in the area of homicides. we had a homicide this past weekend. unfortunately. and i want to make sure again that officers are visible in our community and working with community as we work on public safety. i had to ask the question because i know my constituents ask me all the time about the fact that they see officers in other yours of san francisco and don't feel the same love in the southeast. >> thank you for the question. >> i concur with supervisor walon. i mean i think that is the challenge with i think this is in the just the sfpd it is in general. this is more or less per sfpd and sffd our fire department and

police department when it come down to how do we actually in the space where we can balance over time. and fully staffed work 4s. i think that i want to say that we are already in see improvement for all the city departments before us today. for the police department. you know i think given what happened last year and today we are seeing the fact that -- clearly in the previous fiscal year. you have budgeted your over time so you can cover what has been spent. i think that it does not it does in the mean that we stop here and that we can just condition to be on over time spending and so. when is the plan and strategy this we can continue to make

sure that we become -- meet our standards for fully staff. i money i can tell you like richmond at the full staffing level 90 police officers for richmond station and down to less then and there 50. that's almost half 50% loss of police officers. i'm grateful. i say that richmond is one of the saferest in the city. this does not mean people feel what way and i think that i concur with supervisor walton when people visit one area when they see more popular in this area and when they go home where they live not so many. and so that begs the question is are we being left behind and neglected? so, i wanted to articulate that

as well. >> thank you would you like me to responded. >> so, just to the first item thank you brought up, one of the things we are excite body is the amount of applications coming in now. of course we can we are wide open for many as possible. but i asked someone from recruit and want said 2-300 a month coming in. that is good news. and we have a lot of backgrounds done and -- i see that whole side swing in our favor. and torous over time is to have enough staff so we don't have to have over time like it was for many years, we can get back and we are head in the that direction. in terms of the workforce, and i think for their benefit because they are tire exclude working and they have to nil all the gaps and have to cancel days off and the birthday plans and

everything tolls come to work and staff the over time. it is a matter of us trying to encourage our officers to sign up. to walk on clement street and gear and he third street and other areas of the city and to be able to sign up and do this. now -- it is irrelevant up to them as to where they want to work in the union rules they have the choice to work where than i want. it is our job as leaders went department to encourage them to work in other areas. not a funding issue. thanks to the board and the mayor and everybody in city government we have the support we have to really encourage the workforce to work in the areas we need them to work in. >> supervisor walton. >> thank you. another quick question. chief what is the typical duration from qualified applicant to the academy. the duration could be from 6

months to 8 months something like that. i'm giving a very rough estimate. there is an individual i think of applied in scombrl we are now getting to all his final portions of his exam. so one of the thing this is we are doing in i will spoke for my colleagues on the admin side of the d. getting efficient in terms of hiring more staff to dot backgrounds. engage the candidates more. and really do our best to speedup the process. all the while holding the standards we need to hold. we are compete with other agencies who want to hire from our pool. is this typical for the region in terms of the time line? >> yea. it is. the same candidate is applying for another agency and neck in neck in terms of the testing we are prioring them to go through.

it is competitive and have to be of everdo things quickly and efficient low and also all the while making sure that a person is a good fit before we hire them. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. president peskin. i was going to ask about how the delegation of over time authority to district captain system working for the department. >> thank you, president peskin. because we are really happy with how we pivots or over time strategiful started out by centralizing it and a top down prop and did in the work as well as it is now and how we do it now is if you are a captain and run nothing district station you are responsible for your budget

it is successful and will we find this many are so serious about it they pride themselves coming under budget each month. >> you implement third degree a few months ago? >> this was implements -- may be in september -- around october. credited to date chief ing. he said give them autonomy. >> i said yea i like being responsible for my district. proud of the work this captains are doing to stay under budget. game changer >> yea seems to like it and working. >> yes.

>> thank you. >> request this go to public comment. >> member of public who joined us who wish to address this item number two now is your opportunity to approach. we have no speakers >> no public comment it is closed. >> and colleagues first i would like to move to amend this item as suggested by our budget director and that there is an amendment proposed before you. and that is specific low identifying the funding source. and the conciliation of the dollar amounts coming from that source and page 5. of the legislation. and line 12 to -- 19. and i would like to make a

motion. seconded by supervisor melgar and a roll call. >> that motion to amend the ordinance. offers by the mayor's budget office moved by chan and seconded by member melgar. vice chair mandelman. >> aye >> member melgar. why aye >> member walon. why aye. >> member peskin. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> aye j. we have 5 aye's >> the motion passes. come would like to move the amended version to full board with recommendation. >> second. >> second by pret president peskin. on this motion by chair chan second by peskin to forward to to the full board with a positive recommendation. vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> member melgar. aye >> member walton. >> aye.

>> peskin, aye. >> chair chan. >> aye. >> we have 5 aye's >> the motion passes. with that and mr. clerk call item 3. >> item 3. is an ordinance amending the business and tax code to extend through june 30 of 25. the waiver of certain first year permit license and business registration fees for specified small buildings that new low form or opening new location. madam chair >> thank you. today we have we have both treasure and tax collector office and our office of small business here and the floor is yours >> good afternoon. i'm amanda freed chief of pop3 in office of tax collector. and i'm joined by our champion for first year free and partner katie tang from office of small business. before we start today, i wanted

acknowledge the multidepartment team of people who make this program successful. the office small business. team at permit center and the ash counting and customer service staff and all the first year free departments we worked closely with to implement this program. study you are considering an amendment to extend first year free through june 30, 2025. without this amendment the program would end this fiscal year. since the program began in november of 2021, we had more then and there 6500 small businesses that have been roll in the first year fro and waived 3 million dollars. >> over view reminder how the program works leaves the registration fees and license fees, first year permit and other applicable fees for qualifying new businesses.

and for new locations of existing businesses. to qualify a business needs 5 million dollars or less in san francisco gross receipts and registered location for commercial use and can't be a home based business or short term rental. enrollment is automatic. when a business registers with pt x or adds a new location we take them through the enroll am press if than i meet the crip tear tha why no extra steps 30 equipally enrolled at this time this is a table that is showing all of the niece we waived for each fiscal year of the program and each department. i note we had one full fiscal year so far. twoop 22-23 the other are partial years, you see the dbi fees are most significant followed by fees collected by

the treasure and tax collector this is the business registration fees and theuneified license fees we collect on behalf other departments. i will turn it over to katie for the fun part. >> thank you very much. manageing valuable program and the next examples here we want to show you how businesses benefit. and how valuable it is they able to get fees waived before they can start generating ref mou in their for new businesses. under the program you see here on in the mission. was able to save 11 thousand dollars in permit fee and it is introduction of the ordinance. next telea wine company in

excelsior was able to benefit and get a head start especially begin they did not pay permit fees and other quick examples ear mama hoo-hoo 17 thousand dollars wave instead second location. anomaly a mitch 11 star restaurant opened with 13 thousand dollars in fees waived. style by mona a new salon had 5 thousand dollars waived. casaba 7,000 and glaze do nuts 16 thousand wave in the the second location there are thousands more i wanted bring up a few. so lastly we will conclude that we are not asking for funding from the city to continue this program will program accounting to at any time program with the existing funds as is and happy

to answer questions. >> thank you. item 3 is an ordinance that would extend first year free through june of 2025. if the program is in the extended we believe there will be tw.2 million dollars available for next year's budget year consider approval item low to be a policy matter. >> thank you. >> confirming that this is likely. i think during the budget time we have discussion and i think at this time the legislation is for 5 year. xenz extension of the program and then we have conversation back and forth a bit about how much we can budget for. we identify that we could not budget it for 2 fiscal years we will can do one at a time. i just again i think that what i

hear today is this from everyone i'm looking at the major's office to confirm, is that you know with the current budgeted budget fiscal year the money that we are already have budgeted for this year that we are able to stretch and extend it to the reason why we can go for another year in 2025 because with the existing budget we have for the 23-24 fiscal year yes, thank you. confirming is the case we work with the treasurer's office. extending does in the require new appropriation and this we can have the program for another year. >> inclination or is there thinking of that we will see with this upcoming budget. we'll extend this beyond 2025?

>> this program do many others in the city and small business owners we want to continue the purpose and spirit. program whether it take this is form or part of a broader cest tax proposals we consider. we want to find a way to support the small businesses. so may take may be another year of the legislation before you or may electric like something else this will be per of the budget process. >> thank you. >> i don't see name on the roster. i will go to public comment on this item. >> members of public joining us today. who wish to speak now is your opportunity to lineup now to address item 3. we have no speakers. >> thank you, no public comment it is now closed. colleagues will like to send this to full board with recommendation.

public roll call >> on this motion by chair chan and member williamon that forward this to the full board with positive recommendation voice chair mandelman. >> aye >> member melgar >> aye >> member walton. >> >> member peskin. >> aye >> chair chan. >> aye. we have 5. >> the motion passes and mr. clerk do we other business. >> that concludes business. >> thank you our next budget and appropriation committee schedule for march 26 starts at 4 p.m. not the 1. . 30 standard. thank you and with this the meeting is adjourned. clear clear

>> good morning. the meeting will come to order. well come to march 20, 2024 meeting of budget finance committee. i'm supervisor chair of the committee and joined by supervisor sor melgar and soon supervisor mandelman. >> to those