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to. yeah. okay commission, it is my
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honor to esent john norment of bayview station to be recognized by the police commission tonight. john has been a member of the department for 17 years. he has been at bayview for almost 15 years.s at bayview, he was on the third street foot beat, w station's representative for three separate neighborhood on the public housing detail, police community events, including turkey he represented the department atunity events regarding new construction of public housing developments and represented the department in monthly meetings with the public housing development managers. reading partners program, where officers volunteered toementary students who were behind in their reading in the wilderness program, where he drove neighborhood youth on camping hiking, and rafting excursions. john h mentor and a friend to all the officers at a great joy for his job, a great joy for his it's with sadness that i have to say this, but john is his career in is coming to an end so that's why i wanted to
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ac. in september, john will be retiring from the police department i with a severecat pronounce the name. hee what it was and there's no way i could do it. but he told lieutenant at the time and john had come to work since then. has a happy smiley guy, a mentor to the young officers, great with the community. he complained about it. he never let them down. and it's just it's to lose him at the station because he's been such a great been if you look at if you're looking for a of an ambassador for community policing it's officer john norman. therefore, i'd like to present to you offic of bayview station. please. come on, come want to allow you the opportunity to speak you can choose not to. i'd like to thank the captains. i completely beside myself for this)m, but i'd like to thank my wife and my kids who didn't get to see me for 17 years. so reunited and reacquaint soon. and also thank you for your support. this is a great city miss it. thank you. well hold on, i'm going to
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give the chief an opportunity to speak real quick. and then i think some other commissioners have some things we'd like tohank you. president elias. norman, i've seen you out there and we've talked out in the field and everything that captain c with my own eyes just how you engage with people, i alwa, always upbeat. at least when i've seenhat's just your nature. thank you. it's been. it's a lot of time that, as youut you've done a lot and you've touched a lot of people within the community. so again thank you. and, we will definitely mis you brought to the city and what you've brought to everywhere that you work and t the family. thank you for sharing, john, with us. so thank you very much. thank you. sir. i wanted to first of all, i'm so happy you're represen bayview. that's my obviously home home district. so glad to see second question is, are you really retiring or are you doing what people do as they retire but then end up we wo part time? a little bit more? yeah. i was here with the city, i was in creek for 18
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years. oh, wow. so i've been doing this all of that was in the police. well, ithe custodian. oh i put myself sometimes i'm not sure if i got went up or 's it's been overwhelming. wow. what i want to say congratulations.e things that really sticks out to me, what the captain said about friend but a mentor. and i think that that that's something that i finding a mentor that you can look up to but a mentor who takes you under their wing and really guides you and i have been fortunate enough to have aors in my life and i can tell you that they make such an impact on just who you are and how you handle yourself and how you condu both personally and professionally. and the fact that you're being recognized for think, speaks volumes, because not many people that you do it and do it apparently. well i thank you from someone who has benefited from great mentorship because it is a huge it's a huge thing.think that again, it's oftentimes overlooked. i also want to thank not only you for your service, but i want to
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thank your family because it's sacrifices that they have endured for many years allows you to be here today. the missed games, the single parenting, know, policing is not a 9 to 5ank e family for allowing us to benefit from his time and dedication while he is away from you. and tha your sacrifice because without your sacrifice, he wouldn't be here and able to give everything he has to the city and to the fellow o resonates. and when we have good of other officers, especially young officers, it goes such a change. that's how change in organization happens. and it's important. so i'm really sad to see you again. congratulations. and i hope that you thoroughly enjoy retirement, not let me still work type o take some time and just have fun. so thank you. that's awfully. thank you very much, president elias. and officer both on this recognition and on your long tenure. and congratulations on your retirement, you know, echoing what what thep,c chief and what president ly said, i do want to
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acknowledge urknow, and we i mentioned this just last week that, you know, theour city. but the families are also in service to the city for what to allow you to serve the city. i knowily here if you would like. no obligation. you're if take an opportunity, please do. this is my son mason my son merrick, my son lanemy daughter whitney and my motank you all. so much for coming. and congratulations to you. comm oh, wait, there's more. there's you got. yeah,u may want to stand. thank youwvice to the community. thankour service to san francisco and specifically to the bayview. i w about community policing a lot, but someone that takes the time but tutor young people, you know, that's a holistic approach. policing isn't solely enforcing the law. policing people know and letting the community know that we wear many hats. right. and thatn order to be successful in life, you have to be able toll code switch, right? and sometimes if you could actually communicate, make an impact on demonstrates
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that you have that willingness you have that humility. so i thank sacrifice. i thank your family for letting us have our streets safe. i hope you enjoy retirement. commissioner or commissionermadam president. so i'm the newbie, officer norman. so i'm. my second meeting. so last week, i got to see the sort of protocol and see one of your colleagues also received this award. so what i wantatulations to you on your retirement. but also thank you for community. what you do each and every day is very dif and you get up and you do it because this is something you do you believe in, and you do it atest you can, each and every day. i had a gentleman who was on this commission many, many years ago who, if you're a sports fan or a football player, his name was burl tol great usf dons team, the 51 team was uninvited, untied, and him, myself and his son who were roommates at cal, i played he says. do your best and your best will be good enough. day, based upon what i've heard, i know each and every day you doing your best, and they got to see that that you had been a mentor to many they got to see how you and
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they're going to they're going to you're going to leave, but they'rgoing to say, you know what? you know, officer norman, this is how and i learned from somebody who was the best because you are the best. you as and every day, each and every one of you who serve you each you each deserve a trophy. everybody says everyone doesn't get a trophy, but you everyone yourself and your department. these other departments of public servants you give yal each and every day for everyone. so yes, you do deserve a troph you you are the mvp. you are the all star.ch for your service and best wishes. okay. commissioner yee there. president elias, i just want to thank your john, for all your hard work, i know you put out 17 years in the housing. i guess the housing unit in bayview hunters point. it's as, many of you guys will know, it's a big development. quite a few youth out there, i haveself and, to outreach to the kids out there and working on the programs and wilderness know, tutor and mentor these kids. change so many lives over there that, thank you for that. all you have
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done keep them safe and safer. for your service, and we'll see you out th back part time. and thank the family for all your support, as i say i want to give you guys a as the weekly all the services, recognition. i know you got the monthly. so thank you very much there. officer john norman commissioner walker thank you, president elias. thank you. congratulations i agree with everything that's been said, i do wantt of opportunities for coming back and being the you are on your hour, you know, at your instead of, you know taking away from the family to what everybody has mentioned that you know, the, the, thementoring aspect of passing along what has worked so well with the community. engage lot of opportunities now with the with the some more programs. so thank you and thank you and we'll miss you full time. but we'll see you part time. thank you sergeant.
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at thi any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line itpproach the podium. we have a public comment. i had to get up here. my nameore thompson. i am the director of racial equityey at the department of police accountability. but prior to that, i was at the san francisco district attorney, and john norman was actually one of my witnesses shooting matter at trial that i had one of the best officers that i've ever, is a mentor to these officers, because if i neededto give it to me. you know, they hate to give their cell phone numbers to the da's were absolutely amazing. and thank you. oh, thankurily, for supporting him. absolutely. i just had to come up here it was always work with john. and he became basically a friend years at the da's office. oh, thank you for sharing. miss thompson's a hard
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sell, so if you're getting her praise and the family can get up for the next one, and thatpolice commission right after work hours, i know the family. yeah, go on up right. lic comment on line item one,ing items before we continue line item 12 e and 12 f have been removed item two general publicomment. at this time the public is now welcome to address the commiwo minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but are withis. of the police commission under police commission. rules of order. during publicpe personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the a brief response. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either secretary of the police commission at sfpd. commission at comments may be sent via us postal service to theub located at 1245 third street, san francisco california. 94 like to make public comment please approach the podium brown and i w paris. i want to send some of our firefighters to rome, to and tokyo is a good
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place. i think we should have. here's another item for you. drifting down from, from my very good, california san. ha ha, san francisco foreign legion. we've got a peace corps. it's worked or something. let's do a corps where think that one of the big problems with the san f police and fire departments is that they're inbred. i mean, that's ok a hillbilly from the ozarks and all that, ban extent to which you got to spread out and bring in your into your firehouses and into your stations. and we can that by sending start with a couple dozen people a for sure. but firefighters the san francisco plugs are different than any plugs anywhere in the world? the hook ups are different, and if you get 10 or 12 people here going to know that system backwards. and after ten years, people coming from all over the world to assist us in will
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know our systems, they will know our fire plugs, they have mellowed out. our culture. good evening. police commission chief scott and the executive director of police accountability. for the record my name is chris klein. la on a statement that was very direct of a senior official within the city and county of san francisco. i 11th. as each of yoube making tough decisions in the coming days related to that issue. tonight, i want t unity and community. a few of you know that i'm the ceo of. ends now. we are local and have maryland, west virginia and pennsylvania and expanding elsewhere know, complex investigative, investigative skill detailed in the issue at hand. last week. however, we also offer community research on reducing prejudice violence and bringing communities together do both for critical and crucial insight from the first responders, and other civic and political leaders. the last few"
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days, weeks and longer have brought great divide locally and time to bring our community together with no hatred and intentions. no one should have to worry about voting getting assaulted just because they voted for what they believedn. tonight i'm pledging to the police commission, the police department, and nhth police that i, along with my nonprofit, will you, the city and county of san francisco, bringing a peaceful san francisco back at pavan. we believe in strong individuals for stronies. but not just our community, the community. the prejudice and violence needs to stop immediatel.. good evening chief. myrtega and i'm co-president of iconic d3. i want to thank the men and women of the sanancisco police department for the incredible work they do to keep us se. to welcome commissioner clay to the police commission and mirroted at
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the last meeting. your job as commissionersterpret what you think. the laws we pass mean. your job as written. now i come here constantly to warn you all that if you do not allow sfpd tir jobs, people like me explain to the public that you all put criminals over community, which you do, and we that force you all to rewrite dgos as uwe doing now, if last week's meeting is any this commission is going to go outside ofcope of prop e and we will see. yet another ballot measure which will continue to limit this commission even more. now personally, i have no problem if we, the ballot initiatives until there is no police commission. want the people of san francisco to believe this commission's ability to residents, then i expect you all to follow the law as it is!v aurther public comment. line item three chief's report
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discussion weekly cr public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses inisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activitibes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for future. good evening, president elias. vice president carter commission and executive director henderson in the public&x. starting this weeks crime trends, we are still at part one crimes. that's a difference ofout 9000 crimes fewer than this time last year. property crimes is crimes is at 11% year. homicides, are we have 18 year to da had 29 year to date this time last year. our homicide cl to date is 94 13 incidents. 13 of 18 homicides were firearm related. and related crime, our total gun victims are down year, 121 compared to 86 this year. in terms of property crimes the property crimes are
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as i said last week, are really the reason that we have such overall crime. our larcenies are down significantlyk ins are down 55, year to date. so we have just over 5000 car break ins compared to 11,000 this time last year. in terms ofgnificant events for the week, i talked about this last week in this week's reporting period. we had a homicide thatn 16th and 17th. this a.m. the victim succumbed to h and was actually was transported.other victim was transported in stable condition. i'm sorry. so thewere two victims at all. there was also multiple vehicle collision at that scene that result? as a result well. that investigation is still ongoing with no arrests at this time. if you can please call the sfpds tip line
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of shootings, there were four non-fatal shootings this week, resulting in four victims. the first one was on 8th at post in laguna, this was during a carjacking whe was shot by two subjects who produced a one of the victims. that car was later victim, i mean, the suspect is still outstanding. so that investigation is ongoing o july 8th, there was a shooting at the street in the tenderloin. this happened at 3:46 a.m, when the subject entered the lobby of a residential building. the victim, who was building, did not recognize the subject and refused to let him shot the victim and ran away from the location. that victim stable condition with non-life threatening injuries thatongoing. no arrests at this time. the third shooting was on july 14th at 958 600 block of o'farrell in therlened at 9:58 a.m. as i said, the victim was walking in the area when he was struck by a bulletned by the victim. nonlife threatening injuries. and that is sti. july 12th at 3:05 a.m. at tenderloin. the victim was walking when he saw
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twts arguing. the victim heard gunshots and returned to hi later realized he had been shot. he had a gunshot wound. the victim was was in stable condition, non-life threatening injuries, and that investigation isng as well. no arrests at this time. a couple of other. this one is tragic. onpast saturday, tenderloin officers responded to a suicide%. where a gentleman by the. i'm sorry. this was the baby. the father of a three year old named ellie. lorenzo. the father committe in san francisco. we had received a request from fremont police department that his three year name was ellie lorenzo, and we assisted with the search since the father was found here after he committed suicide. that three year old was the city of san jose. deceased, very tragic situ suicide, there was no foul plays suspected at this time. and fremont is in san jose are both handling their respective investigations, the father committed suicide in san francisco
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were a couple of atm robbe on the 13th of july. there were two calls regarding th an atm machine, both inside retail establishments. one on the o'farrell at 4:45 a.m, the other on the 800 just minutes later in both incidents, the subjects gained access inside the stod to steal atm machines. the second incident, the time officers got there the suspects had fleô still on the premises. weve some follow up, to conduct on this. no suspects in custody at investigation is ongoing. there's a fatal traffic collision on july 11th at 12:41 a.m. a pedestrian was hit by a vehicl delano avenue in the ingleside police district pronounced deceased at the scene and the driver rne investigation is ongoing and, the last incident of significance to report there was a3 report of a sideshow that ended upor traffic collision, on market street. this was, actually not
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the that it was actually a single vehicle that the street. driver apparently lost control andove to the building. so the report that this was as aof the sideshow, was actually not to be the case, video corroborates what we found to be a single in this particular incident. so that investigation isng. but i just want to report that thatult of the sideshow in terms of our sideshow or a decrease in the amount of those events reported this year to the police. there was approx 40. we're not approximately exactly 45 incidents all of last year, this year there has been 22. so we're s events are actually a little bit less than time last year. so we will keep the commission that. we have impounded some cars, not a whole lot, but we have i the fact. and that strategy and that tactic will continue. and that is my. for members of the public
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comment regarding line item three, the chief's report, please approach the podium. hi i'm h brown i don't speak for progressives, but have youm! kerfuffle going on over there? over you guys and the drop 8'proglary clinton, aaron is going over her head and, asserting authority, chief, you haveand then yourself, i guess. but progressives are don't have anything against cops making money. i was telling some cops inhe corner there i was a firefighter. i'd give a million bucks tax free to anybody w 30 years here. and you don't have to stay another five years. and you know what? money in this damn city to cover it. easy with we had some kind of an evening out transfer of wealth from the trillionaires and b problem here. but congratulations on your drop victory. what else i got there? theoh, yeah. the if people. i ran into the street
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walking, on, live? valencia today and that's the first time in nine years i've seen anybody on foot. and i stopped and i said, what the down here on foot? i thought you guys were only out on the avenue. oh, ntchi around. but you know, the fun and the drop is going to take away from the ambassador program. it's also going to take away from kids that. i mean, i love drop but let's drop. drop for now. thank you. sergeant, do i turn and look? no, i got it. this meeting is going to sw. my name is paul allen. i would i've already provided it to you in wr worth noting that i think we now have between, overdose deaths on the one hand and arrests of dealers and users on the other. and that's evident from for periods
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of time.eriod around the time of the apec summit, in to that, secondly, the four month periodnuary through april, when arrest deaths went down, then you have the may arrests plummeted and deaths increased, and then you have the most recent where the reverse occurred. as i pointed out in the memo, obviouslyjó correlation is not causation. number one. and number two, this couls i suggested in my memo commission has a perhaps not an obligation, but it has an opportunity to obtain additional information from the department of public health as to what other variables might influence this behavior. i noted that professor humphreys at stanford speculated even yesterday in an interview that, well, perhaps this was because those now, are kind of serious into it, and that could be an we don't know. that's as much
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speculatio i did. look on site. i didn't s data with respect to at least that i could det interventions the number of interventions, month, successful or otherwise. and indeed, there is obviously other variables that would be useful. again, i think it's ansion, which i know you don't have to request this data the department of public health so that there can be a minutes is up. thank you. and there's no further public comment. line item for dpa director's report recent activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raised for future commissionxecutive director henderson thank you, as i think i mentionee been putting a lot of effort into clearing up our case that 270 report day, that i typically report on every week last week
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i reported and i just learned that our closure rate is now down zero. so we now have zero cases that are not tolling. for the record, thatt that it has ever been in the history of the agency. it's a very big deal, investigators for all of their hard work and and closing cases, because it's a combination of b at the same time. that got us to this point, really proud of that. and those numbers in terms, our continuing effort to clear our the backlog of cases are here with the commission our office is presenting four of those cases in closed session tonight to be res that represents one third of all of the cases have that have been pending, that we normally report on every week incklog that we have. so that's a big deal, we met this week, with the internal affairs division to brainstorm how to effectively improve both of our
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efficiencies in terms of our ongoing workt was a productive meeting, and i look forward to continuing these over the next few months. this is one of the first times&8 that we've ever come together collaboratively to do exactly thisome of the things that we mentioned before, because we just got that big report from iad that i thought was very illuminating in terms apples for the work that gets done with the dpa. ongoing suggestion that i'm going to reach out to iad. i to the chief, and i know i mentioned it in the meeting tof ness report. so it's more than just the beginning measurement. we have an exit information summary of the kind of cases addition to the information that's already being provided to you updated on that project. i think now is a good time to do has, summer fellows that are doing some of this work and may be helpful, some of those interns are also working with internal affairs, so thatht be one of the ways without creating new work, we may be able to addr, we've been having a lot in terms of internal, issu
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lot of workload personnel changes with unexpected leaves. a lot of the results of that has givenf the results that i just talked ab managing our backlogs, but we've been meeting withf with the unions to address, those changes that have happened in the past. we've introduced a we just had another all hands meeting is now continue meeting unions to make sure that we are still on the and i think we're in a stable. good place. an address, both our reporting obligations and our ongoing charter and mission statements within the agenc. externally, weorking with san diego county, reached out and county, that wants both police accountability and sheriff accountability on the models that we're using ally at dpa and replicating the legislation that produced both the jurisdiction
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and replicate some of those measures there. and ih them, and i'll give you updates as that process ing the our numbers, our investigative unit has opened up nine cases since our last meeting and closed 28 cases since commission meeting, so we aretinuing to exceed our efficiencies, with our cases, our auditting, will complete the field testi month. and after our field work, we'll hold an exit conference with sfpd and prepare a draft response that will be presented to this commission, also this week, ourt with the police department's sme. the subject matter expert on dgo 6.13. that's our discuss goals for the update and the current draft, those recommendations to the department next have, as i mentioned earlier four caand closed session tonight, and we will address thoseq when they
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come up, also present in the courtroom o room tonight is our senior investigator, brant bagianour trial attorney, tanita thompson jones. and. you know, i'm so terribl with the names. it's a lot and also, our head. oh head of the legal rosenstein. i'm bad with names. we'll cut you off. all right. vice president carter overstone, than henderson, for the report, just one question, which is wondering if you wise, of when the public might see dpa's audit stop data and then second piece is, i represented that, executiveiven dpa all of the data it requested but wanted to ask if that was
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still the case, we have i have the stop data, audit on my deskk. it was just given to me yesterday, and we are very soon, i may actually have supposed to be reviewing. reviewing it, i don'tery soon i think the draft is alreed at this point, is either the information that was given to us will be reflected in information that was not given to us will be with a drill down outline of the details authorized to receive, what we did receive andtion will be answered directly and specifically. i know that's one in this audit, as well as recommendations about shared information. there will be i don't know if that answers the question, but. for members of the public who would like to make public comment regarding line item four please approach the podium.irector henderson's a
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great guy and he's got a tough job over there. i can look back in the back where, the cops were, chief, back before you they felt free to burglarize the acc tlc down the chief attorney. and they assaulted, one of them. martin assaulted baronetcy and, very to the chief and said, so she came back think i told the story but being old, we retell stories and she came back and saw a couple of weeks later and said, wh want me to do with this, chief? what would you do if one one of theselted one of your commissioners and they gave they personally gave paper on it. would you act on that? i bet youergeant. i'm sorry. the anyway, i like, paulgc very much. and, you know, he could bent because willie picked kamal in to be the da and so. and then when i ran, i run the ideas. in 2007, kamala was and went on. and there's a good
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, and we might have a president that we knew her when, you know, but it could have but i'm going to back this ballot measure.ck this ballot measure. and the one for elected police chiefcause i think they should both be on the ballot. and you've done a great came into a hellhole. glory. you're welcome. yeah. our line item commission reports, discussion and possible action. commission reports will be limited to brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to counter any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting. reports and commission announcements and scheduling of items at a future commission meeting. commissioner walker i wanted to mention a couple of things. just updates. i know that both the chief and have talked with folks about the patrol specials. that's going to bp our, our august off. but was checked in by committee, who are
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working within the department department 30 commitment of hiring 30% offfics by 2030. and i know t diana olivier calledupdated me discussing how many women in th gotten together to be part of the conversation the chief, to really change things, to make sure that wehat we actually implement and carry out and succeedour 30 by 30. so i'm really looking forward to it. i would likeon the september 18th meeting for an update from the department, on the 30 by 30 made. it's very impressive. there's a lot to lot we've already been working on over the, over years but there's so much more to do. and i really look forward and i know the commission is to anng forward. and thank you, chief, for reall.
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you know, it's really an important issue. so t thank you, for my a quick update, what? go ahewhat i also mention that working on this and i've been meeting with them since i've been put on the, on the commission are also, commander jones, who's here tonight? commander moran and leadership who are really putting together. but there's dozens department who really, are really interested in the discussions about policy and moving forward. so thank you. great. writers and policy people. so that's right. we're doing it, so i wanted to give an update. i was able with, the bwc unit i want want to thank the chief because meet with the bwc unit to better understand how body worn cameras logistically will be operating. once we implement all of these dgos and the chief with his staff were able to accommodate a
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meeting with myself and commissioner benedicto to walk us camera unit. the procedures the the accomplishments and challenges that this unit faces. i want to thank and send a huge shout out to sergeant michael young from the bwc unit, as well as i think i was karen lu or lu. yes who took the time to walk us through, the intricate detail of what it really takes when body worn is requested and how they hhave to it, and the amount of time, and it takes, which was really eye opening t, despite having a team of ten, they are only operating with eight. and the amount of work that a able to generate is just really really impressive. so i want immensely for taking the time out of their schedule to walk me and answer questions that i had. i also wanted to, thank the unit, as well, who took the me some of the, the contract and n additions that
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the body worn camera unit, as would be having. and so it was very interesting to see, and i think that in will definitely be agendizing that because i think it's important for what really goes into, body worn cameras and what that u that it takes to actually get body worn camera foot, because it seems that the direction is going to be that the body worn camera footage, it, or body w to be utilized much more moving forward. and so we really need the public is aware of how that process works, what that looks of the, hindrances that it's going to have on the department transition. so i wanted to send a huge shout out to the chief, also the, the staff and those individuals who attended the meeting commissioner benedicto, i can't wait. thank you, president elias, just a few things, for my reports. i, as our fek we passed a number of the dgos that are, implemented e, and today we have some of the thank my fellow commissioners for, the big lift
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to get these dgos to where they're at and hope that we can get those get those through this evening, and we'll reserve specific comments on those for when those come up, i also want to thank acknowledge commissioner yanez i've had the privilege to work wthe dgos that affect the rights of juveniles. those are have before us soon and 7.04, which was on the agenda but -=because of some concerns that commissioner yanez hadfrom community groups. so we're going to take the opportunity to to rework that, commissioner long and established community roots particular in this area ofeally want to thank commissioner yanez for his his leadership on this. 7.04 and 7.01 are significantly improved thanks to the input that commissioner yanez, as well as groups that he brought to the table, have provided. so thank you for that, my report. thank you, commissioner yanez eliason. thank you, commissioner benedicto, i think you, it takes takes a village, they say. right. and and perspectives to be able to
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improve, san francisco safety for all young people and whatever age they iden my report will be brief. i do want publicly. because the reason why you know, the commission, the reason why we're here is because are about transparency, accountability. i'm going to hold myself accountable if in bereavement. my father passed away may 13th. jesus. yanez. vasquez, and he's the you know, he was an organizer in mexico, actually, back the 70s. and then organizers in mexico were murdered in those days. so, you know i have a history of speaking truth to pothe reason i'm here. and i'm going to hold myself accountable. if i it will be returned, because the bereavement was a rolled my sleeves up and we're back at work to give an update around the language. 052. oh, i know that the work groups are going to begin. thank you, to your staff chief, for being veryñhabout the process. and i have been reaching out to, the community. san francisco
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language access network engaged and wants to participate and will be rateful to this commission and yourself, cd your staff for prioritizing this as of the outcomes of prop e for us to have as much the members of this community that do not have, the bnunde english to better access those services for translation interpretation, if ever they need those, the other up i have is and i thank youissioner benedicto, for putting 701 back on the because it is one of those that has received many points ofje fe. and throughout the course of over tw think we have made a lot of progress challenges, some obstacles. that one at many points. a obstacles, but i think we are closer to a place whe the community and the young people are going to benefit from the product that is going to c 701. so i am happy. i'm glad that we will be agendizing that in the non and
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authorization, and i want to make sure that we do not forget that over a have a presentation about the intention of this body department to initiate an evidence basedthas been adopted by los angeles, by oakland jurisdictions across the nation, which is to establish a pre-booking diversion program that would give you of programing in lieu of being held in abeyance if and when programs that are evidence based models the reason why i have been adamant about or the creation of this program is because of my history of 30 people, adolescence, and the fact that i have, our providers, our community and this department, to understand that young people deserve to be treated differently their 20s. and just because the law says that once you're 18, you're supposed to understand right from wrong. and e:ve not necessarily mean that every individual out there really grasps these things. right, so i
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hope that we can i had kind of coincide with the year& had a joint presentation with the juvenile probation commission, who endorses this program, but here we are a year later, and we have not necessarily launched, as i had would have hoped. we have gotten to the program. and so i asked one of our community partners for numbers since i've engaged in this conversation, we looked at from january 22nd july 2nd of 24. and in that period there of 370 with the community calls unduplicatedp! referrals. so new young peoplento the juvenile justice system, and we there has evidence, plenty of studies done on the matter the juvenile justice system, leads to further criminalization and further involvement in for young people. there have been 370 people who have entered the systemal
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to divert them from system. now, i don't know, out of those would have been eligible? i'm working with the juvenile probation depart i just want the public to know that there are potentially 370 young people who may not ever have had to have formal involvement with the system thatfortunately involved in the system in some way, shape or form. and so compels us, and, and i hope that the tell a story and track, the process so that we get, get the point where we can actually implement and begin to offer an ev program that has demonstrated it can save lives, that has demonstrated it can redirect young people into where they can address whatever mental health substanc abuse needs or whatever conditions that may. they mayem to contact with the system. so i hope we can have everybody come back and hopefully we can get september. thank you.
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okay. vice president carter well, first and foremost just wanted yanez and his family condolences on his, you know thank you for sharing those by dad and his legacy that you're rr many ways including the important work that you do on this commission, and thank you for continuing to serve the public during this very difficu, just wanted to acknowledge that it's today is the day that effective. our policy to de-emphasize, trafficlic safety benefit just wanted to acknowledge hat know, dozens of jurisdictions all across the country have implemented some version of this policy. it's been anr everywhere that it's been attempted. and that data i'm heartened that the people of san in the benefits that millions of americans have reaped over the last few years. i want to thank chief scott fornt to thank every single commissioner up here who was a commissioner at
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the time that the policy was all voted for the policy at one point or another all the members of the community from across the ideological spectrum, who came out and supported this policy. thank you. thank you commissioner clay. yeah just for the for commission yanez, elates to the group group getting together as it relates to the restorative justice type of thing, the guidance for the issues of diversion, what you're going to need to do is get the courts involved. also, as a matter of law, they have to be involved. so i would hope courts has been contacted, along with the prosecutors as well as the juvenile justice commission, with the police department, so they can do that together because they have to theythat once you do that, you can't do that atter of law. so get them. i hope someone's got them involved also because that's important to get them there. okay. the juvenile justice commission came and did an amazing us and showed they work with the court. the juvenile courts, and, so think that it would be good to have update to commissioner clay, since he's
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new. and would be beneficial in this process. it'll be our september surprise. great thank you, sergeant the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five the podium. favorite commenter hi i'm h brown again. i just want to give an attaboy to this commission. i mean, you guys have beenro shit than anybody since the school board a couple of years and all that, dump them, go after them, attack them, blah, blah, blah., my question to all of you, what are with mayor peskin? i mean, you think the shit hit the fan now? very interesting but you have a wonderful group here, a group and they're friendlier and more accessible than any, commission that i've seen up here in watc for 30 years. and hang in there and thank you so much for your work and welcome aboard, commissioner clay. you are such a good addition. thank
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you good evening everyone. my name is joe c. i'm a local social worker and skateboarde if the dolores hill bomb topic was already mentioned earlier in thent to continue the topic of reaching out to youth in the city, actually, as stops on the street because that defiim skating so briefly. if i can just say, it was about a 113 people were arrested at the dolores hill bomb, which is skaters going down dolores street. most were youth, so i wanted to recommend further discussion about sfpd's community outreach and other departments, specifically mta and the recent park. last july 6th, a little over ten days example of sfpd. unfortunately prioritizing a it involved excessive overtime as well as what appeared to be violations of ada laws and transportation codes, if this is workingan me on
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how to get right. thank you. you may see this was on church street, and again, thank to continue on church street. but just, just a logistical thing. you can see someone's about to fall, there's a few luckily, people were able to continue, church street without being arrested, but this was an example of, you know, howfficers were there on dolores street and the event just ending up it actually ended up on a more dangerous street, where people were l fall. so just recommending further discussion about dolores street and also just there's oth laws and how the public is perceiving the use of police time. again, i think there's definitely potential for people can be on the same page. but, let's see if the youth can be invited in that as well in the future. thank. that is the end line item six presentation and discussionnt annual policy, annual report 2023 discussion and possible.
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good evening. my name is aja steeves and i am the manager of thpolicy development division. and i'm here to present on our annual report relating to, ab 4081, which is the military equipment, a. thank you. so ab 41 went into codified a california government code, section it requires law enforcement agencies in california from the applicable governing body. in our case supervisors it requires the approval of a law policy by ordinance. and it first actually required each l agency to get an approved use policy forhat they had within their inventory and everything they had acquired bef 41 defines the categories of the certain tyment equipment. again, it requires
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all of these law enforcement agencies to seek approval of the use of that equipment, and that approval done by way of ordinance, our use eas signed by the mayor december 22nd effective date was january 22nd, 2023. this does mandate an annual review, which is what we're hereo annual review by the board. and the board just reviews our compliance with the use policy that was approved last year. next slidek you. so this is just a review of theocess itself of the use policy, we had a bunch of public hearings last year between the date of submission in may 2022 and th approval in december 2020. excuse me, 2022. there were the department captured over 43 policy recomme through the hearingio process. you can find those recommendations on our website. there is a tab specifically designated for the law enf, and it captures. there's a section on our the documentation that was gathered duringbf want to look for those 43 recommendations and our responses, that's available on
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presented to this body last february to go over it was approved. next slide, this is the this slide just goes over the ab 41 inventory categories. and these that were acquired by the department before january 1st, 2022. unma remotely piloted powered ground vehicles, armored personnelave a breaching or entry apparatus attached command and control vehic breaching apparatuses that are explosive in nature. flashbang grenades and pepper balls excluding standard service issued handheld. long range acoustic device. elrod specialized firearms le than 50 caliber, with the exception of standard issue service onap exclude the rifles that are assigned to patrol projectile associated munitions. next slide of the annual report requirements that acally landed in the annual report. it's a summary of how the coverednt was used and the purpose of use, a summary of any complaints or conserved received about that particular equipment, the results of any inant info about violations
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of the equipment. use for each type of equipment, including training, mainte, upgrades and also the source of funds. so we would let you know if it was operational funds that was paying for it, grant etc. next slide please, the annual report also includes the quantity possessed for each typent and also notifies the reader and the public if sfgpw[ intends to acquire additional equipment subject to the next year and the quantity sought. the department alsoopted to include information about whether injuries were sustained dg th next slide. thank you. so why are we the inaugural annual report was publicly posted on the june 11th, 2024. we did seek and receive an and their deadline that they put on to usun 15th. so within 30 days of publicly rele is required to have at least one public meetingng public can ask questions regarding the funding acquisition or use of equipment listed in the report. the board of supervisors shall determine based on review of the annual report whether each type of equipment listed policy complied with the
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standards of. excuse me government code 7071 means did we comply with the authorized uses in the6) uy the board, if the board determines that not complied with the government code 70, 71 sr use policy they may vote to disapprove a renewed or require modifications to the use policy. and the department is also consideringtional public meeting through the captain's town halls. we don'teduled but we are aiming for mission station they have a station5v. town hall scheduled for august, so we may holde. so that's just an oof the annual report itself. i am joined by deputy chief raj vaswani who sps bureau and the special ops bureau actually maintains the mhis equipment. so he's here to help answer any questions that but happy to take any questions so we can start the discussion. question. so procedurally, you bring this public can ask questions, and then we take a vote to do what? to send it to the boards. or my understanding is this is just for discussion to allow to ask questions
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and this body to ask questions. and the actio board of supervisors. so on page three of your say that there were 11 public hearings. what do youre. so, our use policy was submitted to the board and then it was sent to committee, the rules committee. so there are several hearings at the rules. and then several at full board. okay. so when you say public heari you mean in front of the board of supervisors. so how many community meetings with comm supervisors, not, anyive body, not the department, not with the poe been held regarding this. now, the meetings were at the. we don't believe we sought any community meetings for that. so if it's in front of the board of supervisors, the community can engage with you. they're only limited to a two minute public comment, just lik police commission when we have this before the police commission. unfortunately, all that can happen is up and give their opinion in two minutes. so i'm just want clear and i want to understand. so there have been no community meeting garding this issue that have taken place thus far. yes. or no? no. there were no community
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meetings. but to address that we did. why? we in the hearings and captured those 43 recommendations came from the public c in, and we wanted to ensure that we were responsive. and they did impact the use think the way the ordinance is written, it says community meetings and at policing different, especially with prop e and prop e's, hugeve community involvement and have meetings in eachisbe counter to that if we're notging that type of intention of having community involvement inocess. so i wouldn't feel comfortable moving anything forward until there's c r you and directly, rather than conversation, a two minute public, you know, public comment type of setting. policy has been approved, but with the annual report, that'sjt why we want to do more of the district station meet to discuss the annual report. should probably be done. and maybe we bring this back in september. a show this commission what efforts the department has made to engage community. stations is a good start. but i still think that, you kno emails about this issue. been there's
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been no awareness-v to the community or community involvement or opportunity for the community to raise their concerns. so i think that needs to b move forward or say that we've because i mean, when you look at these slides, it looks like you've had community engageme i just don't think that that's completely accurate. so, okay, vice president elias. i guess i'll just pick up where president elias left off so government code section 7 needs to be within 30 days of posting least one well publicized and conveniently located general public may discuss and regarding the annual military equipment seems to require a meeting inhi, as it says there can be a free form two minute public comment, you know, form like ute public comment doesn't seem to meet the requirements of state law. so i that that has to happen before the board votes on
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it. but different view on what state law requires? no not necessarily, but thek at the policy itself, it does name that first meeting to happe the police commission. so not the law, but the policy that was approved by d that was approved by way of ordinance does name the police commission as the first. understood understood. but but the state law control can't amend state law. right of course. mentioned that the, this is actually on that p, too, that that the board grantedile the report. is that right? because i think i saw on the report online that the last authorization was december of the ordinance of the of the use use policy itself was approved in december of 2022. and so reauthorization every year. correct? right. okay n u're saying because the board authorized it. no the reauthorization of the use po is based on the review of the annual report annual
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report was the thing that wethe board said we could submit it no later than june hearing to review the annual report and then determine whether it can be renewed or not. but under state lawar clock started running at the end of december, when the board lastive date of the actual policy was january of 2023. so you started running in january. correct. and so under state law, january of this year is when you should be back before the board. is that right? when we should ideally submit the inaugural report. okay publicly? well, not ideally right. because the because state law ideally right. it gives a fixed one year deadline to publicly post the report. so we're out of compliance with state law in i would say we did not submit that did not publicly post the report in january of 2020. i'll take t assault rifles, i think in the report there was this most recent one submitted. there's 300 some odd assault rifles. just wanted to ask about. the
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department's representation on its inventory of assault rifles has changed quite a bit in the in its board the last time around, i think there was at one times reported that there is a bit over 300. could you just exthose representations have changed so substantially? sure. initially, i believe the way it is defined in ab 41 is whethe, it removes what is it, standardfles. so we removed the standard issued rifl reported the rifles for specialized units8j that we ended up with in the actual use polo th we reported on i see. so this 300 number doesn't include standard issue. and do you know or do any of our friends here know what the what if you included standard issue assault rifles on. sorry. yeah, butily. i don't know, off top of my head, no. okay. thank you. and then i think i also saw in the report that you, he use of an assault rifle, you do report when it was necessarily
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fired. is that fair? yes. okayú. that, so, last. the report says that flashbangs were used 35 times. quote during the service of high risk search warrants i 2023. i just wanted to ask if there was a[i department of what constitutesj high risk such that it would justify the use of flashbangs. so generally evaluated and if it can, it can occur by a specialized unitny. usually when it comes to tactical company, it means it risk. it usually means that the person either has access to a weapon. a weapon was used in a crime of violence, it terrain of where ther high risk people at the
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address, which would escalate it. there is a standardized matrix that we would loo if it comes to us in the tactical company and is so there's a matrix. so is that know, memorialized in writing and in in a department policy or manual or. yes, it is. and procedure to just evaluate, search warrants of premises. and, and so matrix has, i take it a number of different factors. and after off enough of them, the search qualifies as high risk. does. and there's a discussion. there's a discussion between the unitng the order and tactical company on their capali and does the matrix addition to the risk factors of executing the require consideration of, the effects that flashbangs might have on, on, you knowhat might live at the residence being searched, such as children or elderly people. they do evaluate they they
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take a lotation, and the newer flash bang technology doesn't. it's self-contained. ití6 doesn't ignite. it's not flammable. it's cont a in a container. okay. so it like the older technology was of like it could ignite something. safer. okay. but and just understand is consideration of the effec might have on, you know, say children or the elderly. is that actualwr you're saying this is something that is more informally discussed the swat they're the swat team is actually trained in taking all kinds of things into considerationithin a premise. but i guess what i'm their tactics would change, right? i appreciate i appreciate your answero that because i'm asking just something slightly different, which is, is it in writing in m
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not? there. there is in writing in the!urix, if there's children present, etc. so if we need to have occ there, if you know things such as that. okay. understood. thank youtwo follow up questions to vice president carter stone's questioning who authorized the extens i was told that the board did. i dify resolution or by communication via email. iwent through june 15th and. good afternoon, president. you're going to excuse me commissioners, i have a little bit of a raspy voice today. i'm losing my for appearing. thank you. my name is diana roach doctor known recently, and i'm the director of policy and public affairs, so i clarify that we did submit a letter of request for anb? board clerk and a request that was based on an inquiry that came from supervisor dean preston, that request, after further dialog, was granted. accoteeves just mentioned,
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in terms of the date of when to submit the updated report and then that the first the requirement was that a first police commission occur, and get that lineage correct? if it's 30 days of publicly posting the report, then we havemeeting with the police commission. we can continue to have community and then the board will have the hearing. okay quick question, i'm going to turn over to my fellow commissioners is on annual report. number two it says a summary of anys received concerning the equipment. and you indicate no complaints or regarding this equipment, which is odd to mefí because i've been my email box has been flooded with concerns where should the public send these concerns and complaints regarding this policy, i believe in the initial policy, there's sfpd chief's email address, posted in the use requesting any inquiries to come in that way, but i is worded, it sounds like we need a complaint about the specific equipment, not necessarily the incident. maybe there's complaints about an
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indent, where, let's say the bearcat was this is about a comp the bearcat specifically. and so we haven't received any complaints about that specific tool. okay so why do so we can to the commission secretary. and we could post it on the commission website. and then i'm going to ask to re agendize this with an update in terms of you complying with the state law and community involvementcooner benedicto, thank you very much. president elias a lot of the questions were asked by you carter so i won't repeat questions on those points. one questi annual report on page ten, an annual report. the report notes that unmanned remotely piloñkte as the department did not maintain these items, whatnow, since prop e now passed and which explicitly authorized t aerial vehicles, for pursuits has the department takenned aerial vehicles? and what is what is its understanding of where that would fall in future reports under this ordinance? sure. so just
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a reminder, this is the annual report that correlates with the use polerything we had prior to january 1st, 2022. so our understanding is we h submitted, there is legislation at the board introduce use policy, ab 41 use policy. once it is approved require an annual report. so we will come back to this body. we ahal then do community meetings. so same same route. but this just attached to the annual for everything we had before 2022. okay. so it's your understandinghat, state law under this government code 7072 would still apply to, unmanned aerial vehicles the department purchased. that is my there would be a usee approved by the board that isn't yet approved. notwithstanding any provisions of prop e, since the state law would still apply. correct? correct. okay, i know we've÷: talked a little bit when it comes to vehicle pursuits at this commission about the chase and similar gps launcher technology.fall under any of the enum of government code 7072? thank you for the
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question. no, but it does fall under sf admin code 19 b as a surveillance t a authorized use and impact report. okay, that's helpful. thank you. i'll also agree with what president elias said. based on my reading of 7072, i don't think that's required since you've met tonight that you've met the, you've had theon the government code, 7072. but i do think that this should beag echo president elias's request that the community m that's that you could read the 77 two very narrowly, but there's not an opportunity for the public to ask questions. and i think the community process that the commission followed 9.07 involved, substantial community community feedback. there arew requirements imposed on this commission by prop e. and so i think spirit, we should all be working to increase that engagement, that we're under so, and i also think that it the, this that after that's done, it's important that this come back before this body. quite frankly i was not able to review the re i would like given that prop e has really consumed a lot of the
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commission's bandwidth it passed. and i know i've spoken to many of m pforward to sort of being able to return to our other other sort day to day oversight duties once aftermath of prop e. and think that that would include this. so we look forward to seeing you, for the reporte fall. thank you. commissioner clay this the ab 41ere on this commission. so i just a real simple question. i want to fo question. so what is the sanction file the report on time? i don't i'm unaware of the sanction. that's the problem. as a judge and legislature, they make these laws. but there's no sanction for you to a get some gravitas, making people do what they're supposed to do. so what's ihere, it needs to get done. and there's a law it. just follow it and get it done. and then we can know, that's the unfortunate thing. when you don't have a sanction and maybe we may promulgate a sanction for that here. but this law doesn't have a sanction. but we're saying to you, urging you to get it done asap. all right. that's what thank
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you. sir if any member of the public that regarding line item six, please approach the podium. you're goin tired of me, but nobody ever gets tired of me disgusted ifn me. shit like that. but not tired. no the chief. period. is the public and foot patrols. i mean, a few a cop shot on a polehim and killed him in the east bay, and, a hunter cop cars at's great. maybe helicopters, whatever the hell and all that. andly a woman went over and told the cops, she said his name is, john doe, and he's over mary doe. his aunt's place is two blocks from here. and and three more cops got killed. but that's here. nor there. matter is, i lived in the tenderloin. i grew up in a housing project of crime. i'm special ed teacher. got a masters in it. and criminal does something. they go running down thed they go running through the pro sct. they go running through the sro they go and, the if you the cop on the beat, if the cops
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been there his name is john doe. and he went to mary, those house is millions of eyes on the street, you patrols, foot patrols, foot patrols. you what you got is, is if you just people riding the desk with a gun herewñq6 equal that in los angeles, you would free up 200 street. and you've been promising to do that. and all the 3foot patrols. my name is john lindsay poland with the american friends service committee, which is tracked implementation of ab 41 military equipment po state. the commissioners have weighed in about the community engagement meeting, but i have two responses and two points. firs4< board reviews not only whether the police department complied with its ownwhether it meets state law requirements for ng. no reasonable alternatives to meet the sameat the equipment is cost effective. in addition, i have to the email address listed in the policy never gotten a response two points sfpd owns>t
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15 submachine guns and 64 machine guns are fully automatic weapons made for war. it also owns as 600 semi-automatic assault rifles. yet sfpd proposes 12 more machine guns and assault rifles with no rationale for why more military power firepower is needed than previous years. the number of gun violence victims as we heard earlier in the city has fallen. in f year since 2021, these additional weapons sd out showing the need for them. changes in conditions that arsenal and evaluation of alternatives and of the weapons will safeguard civil liberties. finally, sfpd doesot provide the make or model of its machines military equipment policy, though this is required by it is disclosed only 600 assault rifles. we believe the department should disclose all information about these weapons as required by ab 481. the board also has the of
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equipment, even if they're not included, including what which i would say when you have over 2000 officers and you have 300 weapons that are consdaue issue. eight discussion and possible action to approve revised order 5.03. investigative detentions for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as requir discussion and possible action. thank you. president elias 5.03 was postedú!, for the last commission meeting, and ity president elias last week. since that time, the department has some recommended revisions 5.03 that we believe will, are in compliance withpo and, actually, if i could over to, commissioner benedicto because there are some additional, minor edits onartment is submitting that, commissioner
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benedicto and i have discussed.%? i'll turn it over to him to read what the edits are. and i would ask for the commission's support on this dgo, including about to hear. thank you very much to president elias for providing us this time. joe that everyone has in front of them for 5.03 is both in compliance with prop e, as it was last week. but i think it's important as president elias noted with our presentation f the bwc team, to be cognizant of the ad-#ditionals being imposed when we're asking for things to be on bwc, anwhat we don't want is the opposite thing to happen, where we're creating more burdens reduce them, which i think is something that's been very important. and so to my fellow commissioners, you'll see that the chiefs additional track changes primarily on page four in green before this meeting, chief scott and i discussed a few clarifying non-substantive changes to that green language, which i. it's mostly just for consistency and changing a few things that ar present tense, and cause some ambiguity into the past tens}gfpage four of
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the red line under number two worn camera the changes are all to that sentence in green on b that begins with members must cite on the bwc and so i'll, i'll read the new language and i'll call out the changes. it now says members must cite on the bwc as massible. and focus the articulation on why a search was conducted. no changes there. members must state why to believed the subject was armed. such a was and dangerous before a w permitted. that's changed to a was as well ashe source and age of any information they relied you rely on to conduct a pat search. m cautious about solely about relyingnvironmental factors, rather than the subject's conduct chanso ones that the chief supports for. for clarity purposes. and so with those and subject, any further questions from my fellow commissioners, i motion
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for us to approve revise department 5.03 for the department to use in meetingh the effective bargaining units pursuant to our labor dash 32nd. before we take a second, i just wanted to highlight some reallimportant facts because again, and i think i've addressed this,really want to highlight the fact that as we moved rely more on body-worn cameras i think it's important discussion of what that means i the department and more importantly, what that means to the public, because we are now creating a syad of being able to go and request a written police report, we're now forcing the public, the newspapers, press, attorneys whatever, to request body worn camera footage and before body worn camera footage public, an actualmember of the department has to review it and reda to comply with state
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law before they can release it. and according to body worn camera footage unit, they get 4 to 5 day for body worn camera footage. and i that will increase once we move towards making everything on body. additionally, it takes 3 to 5 an and they gave me one example where 21 minutes of video took a member eight hours to redact. swe have to keep this in mind. i've raised this issue with thee issue that although we have a contract in place that's going to provide services, there is still that physical human element that is needed to utilize these tools that are coming to the departme importantly, there still is a budget gap because i think this department needs more funding to staff this department so that we can keep up, because in this department, rightly so. given the number of requests andakes just to get one, you knoinute of footage released. so i think we have t i have had
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extensive discussions about this, and, he has reassured me that those issues that are goingeated by this process as we move things to body-worn cameras, is also going to be addressed. and with that, i am he but willing to, to move. sovice president carter and then we'll go to commissioner walker, just a clarifying question. so last on last week's version where pat searches recorded on b in an incident report is that a incident report, the rationale for that change? yeah, the rationale for that change is the property specifical required by law, and a written report on a pat search outside of arrest, is so the same objective of those things t can be captured if the officers were to write a written report, can be captured on the bwc. commissioners who took the lead
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on this with that interpretation.$] i think that prop e is prescriptive in the way reduce the requirements of record keeping and i thpled with the fact that this dgo was one of the that were the prescribed us to look at keeping, that this seemed like a change that, that wasnge to be one mandated by property and a solution that is hopefully workable. and i think something i've shared with the chief that!a relates to what president elias said is that, you know, some of tghs ve to look and see what impact this has on on the body ability to turn around reports in a also share present concerns, and an incident report is actually easier harder. but i think given the mandate of property and it's one of ti? because i think
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you're just asking a question. you a real answer. the real answer for me is, am i i think pat searches to be in a written report? yes. is it the i think that given some of the language that must be ar are. are not as they were. but to be clear, i very intrusive. it's a violation of your civil rights. your constitutional rights. and i think that it's extremely serious. i think weave a problem with pat searches in this department. the data tells us tha opeople more higher rate than non people of color. and more i 50% mark when it comes to contraband because in orderody, you have to have facts in order to pat search. and the facts you have to have have to or you have to articulate there's some contraband on you in order to search them. and the a reports tells us that when we're searching people we're not finding stuff. so that tells know, we're searching people and there's no basis, or we're not how to be on the lookout for certain7e indicators, which would warrant a pat search. so those are my concerns. and i think with this language that the officer having to articulate certain things which are
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required, i think alleviates some of my concern, so that's you want to answer. there it is. that's helpful. and then. yeah, because i i'll be honest, i don't see this change at all as being mandated by p seems like this is chiefs personal preference. so i did want to do you take a different view about, you know, president elia i think listed out a lot of compelling reasons why it may actually be more cumbersome to record all of these. andrun, why do you disagree with that? that disagree with what that i more cumbersome. yeah. i mean, i take it that your' position is it will be less cumbersome to use bwc versus an incident report when it com searches that that is my position. okay. but and president elias just a moment ago laid out some the idea that it actually could end up being more work in the long ruif too many of these bwc reports. so just asking why why you disagre. this. well, i disagree because i don't believe that piece. and i'm asking why. yeah. yeah. because an recording what they're doing as they'reit that's
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the extent of what tul to do, as opposed to writing an incident report which usually requireem to go back to the station write a report, be out of t ast this part of proposition e was designed to free up officers administrative time so they can be in the not think this would accomplish that. so i don't see it as everything, president elias and i have had many conversations about this, but i don't see that as being of those reasons. i think the officers record, if there's an arrest have to write a report anyway. if that they did would be recorded on that body worn camera. it can be review investigation, the information is there. and actually, i think there's some benefits to it because to recollect what's happening right when it's happening, it's probably going to be more accurate in my opinion. thank you, commissioner clay. so i just want to say support, commissioner benedicto and the president o statement as it relates to this particular statute or this particular general order. the problem ishe. it's not going to happen.
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we get that all the time. i read the city attorney's opinion that she provided to the commission prior after that enactment of property, and it's pretty clear that the is what we have to do. we may not like it. we're goingto test it and see what happens with it. but you know, this is theow same argumeers did when the civil rights voting act was passed. they went by every way to try to say, this is not right. and it got contested because they said well, they, this is this this is this is what we have to san francisco. all right? we given a mandate. we'll do it. if it we're going to come back. but we got to move on. this is way this because it's pretty clear in the city attorney's opinion of what hasg it, and we don't may not like it. i wasn't here when all these things happened but you got to follow it and then let's see what happens. and so i'd like to commissioner walker would like to second this, and i'd like to us to take a vote. second sergeant second for any member of the public would like to regarding line item 85.03. please approach the podium.b4
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i represent juvenile justice. children in the juvenile justice system for a long,on. and i'll just toss in here for id. the hill bomb went down without chief scott. it was and the last one. and not the last one. the one before that. that's why i was so screwed up. okay, no offense to your your your what they did there the purpose was one of the reporters on the scene asked the captain, standf it was your station guy, but, there's so many cops. you going to do? and the captain said, we're going to make today. we're going to make a lot of arrests today. so they my juvenile kids into the system as fast as they could before they saw a lawyer. i've said thisefore, i'll say it again. you know, that wasgoing to
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pay millions of dollars for that crap to begin with and all did it for ids. i mean, get with the system. you don't need to raid a party to , when you've got claude. claude and he's a better brain than anybody in this room. and anybody in this city, you've got a problem. we. you had meeting here on translators. you can't have translators system for $20 a month. again, you have to pay for eacery language in the world, you know, stop strong arm when you can get it throug. that is the end of public comment on the motion. commissioner walker i'm sorry, commissioner clay. howyoye commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner. walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes commcommissioner yanez. yes, commissioner. i'm sorry. yes, commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner. yee. yes. commissioner yee is. yes. vice president president carter whetstone is no. and president elias president elias is. yes. you have six yeses. line item nin discussion
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and possible action to approve. revised department generalsponse and pursuit. driving for the department and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law. discussion and possible all right, fellow commissioners, this is another one of the prop e, general orders that was taken off calendar last week, after a'rc< discussion was had as to whether the commission would request apprehension data, th draft has reflects only that change. at the last page you'll see that it now requestsa, and otherwise this is unchanged fro week, you know, there was some discussion last week that the some of the most significant, and, you know, probably what the public knows most about prop e. and so this was worked on very closely and carefully over the number of make sure that it complies with prop e's. prescription to increase the circumstances in which pursuits can be undertakenidea that's the that's what it
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included. so t with that fully and also maintains, oversight to incorporate as many best practices as possible. so with that, i would like to make a motion to approve, the revised department gen order 5.05 for use with meeting and conferring relations resolution 23, dash 32nd., last week, you the issue of including the. apprehension, data was an issue around. data collection and prop e do you still have that issue? i mean, i now version that we're voting on. yeah, i, i still issue. yes. so i thought what was goinghappen is the commission was going to vote on which version that or there would be a discussion on which version is that. can i ask the because this,t we are actually voting on is a reflection of how prop e affects implementing prop e
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does thatude implementing prop e? is it required by law, good evening commissioners alicia cabrera with the city attorney's office, so i believe me is whether the green language, the number ofrehension under 5.05.08 is required by prop e. the answer is no. it's not required by prop e property specifically states the fields of information that's before you until that green portion. so it asks for an annual report on the reason for the pursuitsuits that resulted in a collision, the number of pursuits that resulted inde i and a peace officer or member of the public, and the were found to be within or outside of policy. prop e vehicle requirements includes a list of information that thethe commission has authority under its policyng power to require additional information from the chief. and so that would a direction to the chief of police. but it would not b because prop e requires it. and it's not required by law. that i
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leave up? sont, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 9o5 .05. please approach the podium i'll pretend i'm more senile than i am and go a little off topic, but the way to make this the safest city in the worl pedestrians like me and for dogs and to put a speed bump at every goddamn traffic light in san francisco. every single one of them. you get a reputation around the world instantly drive slow in san francisco. and if somebody got killed at thatumps there. that is the end of pu motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner walker. no commissioner walker is no commissioner. benedicto. yeses. commissioner yanez. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes.
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commissioner yee commissioner yee is no. vice president carter. oberstar. yes.. yes. and elias. president elias is. yes. you have five yeses. line item ten. public comment. and all matters pertaining to item 12 below closed session, including public comment on item 11. a vote whether to hold%qclosed session. if you would like to make a public comment regarding podium. seeing none. line item 11. vote on wh closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10 d actionkon5i second. all right. on thecommissioner clay, how do you vote? commissioner clay is. yes commissioner. walker. yes, c benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissios yes. commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter is. yes. and president elias. yes.
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president are motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay yes mr. walker is. yes. commissioner benedicta. yes. mr. yanez is. yes. commissioner yi. yes commissioner yi is. yes. vice is. yes. we have six yeses. line item 14.
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