san francisco commission on the monday, august 26th. the time is 5:06 p.m. the ringing and use of cell phones, p devices is prohibited. please chair may order the removal from the meeting a phone or similar device. public comment will be av each item on the agenda for comments on matters that are not on the an opportunity for general public comment. participants who wish to.l be asked to come forward one by one and speak clearly into th allowed three minutes to speak. alternatively, members of the may

submit public comment by email to environment at via email will be forwarded to the commissioners, who will be included as part of the official that the broadcast on sfgtv will end at the conc when the commission goes into closed session. when the commission reenters open session. i will call the roll. president juan. here vice president sullivan. commissioner bermejo. here commissioner hunter. here.mmissioner yuan. here. president. juan, we have a quorum. the item. the next item is the consent through four. numberome. this item is for discussion. number three is staff introductns speaker is tyrone zhou, the director. this item is for discussion is the approval of minutes of the june 24th, 2024 commission on meeting. the explanatory document is environment draft minutes. this item is for discussion and action. good evening president's welcome.

the commission on the environmenthat we occupy the unceded ancestral homeland of ramaytushhlone peoples, who are the original inhabitants of the san recognize that the ramaytush ohlone understand thectedness of all things and have maintained harmony with na we honor the ramaytush ohlone peoples for theiro mother earth as the indigenous protectors in accordance with their traditional traditions, th ramaytush ohlone has never seed lost n responsibilities as the caretakers of this place as well as for peoples who reside in their traditional territory.om living and working on their traditional homeland asts. we affirm that sovereign r our respects to the ancestors elders, and relatives of the ramaytush community. as environmentaliste must embrace indigenous knowledge in how we care for francisco and all its people. commissionersof the public, welcome. today's presentation docket introductions. update to fix lease sanask force initiatives

and edible food food waste prevention efforts. we also have an agenda item for director jules performance appraisal. with that, let's get starte. so the next item is joe would you like to introduce new staff to the environment testing karaoke session. all right, if i here, who's going to be introduced to. just come on a little bit of time. so, commissioners, we have done hiring over the past month which is why people here. before i introduce everyone, i do want to g someone we recognize at our all staff meeting, sana ahmad, who is really has just done a tremendous job getting here and now we're going to introduce everyone. have a familiar face to san francisco environment. it's a rehire. brian reyes rejoins us as coordinator on the climate team under cindy comerford. james slattery on the construction and demoliti up. hello. than lot of, old

faces and new faces. so glad to join the department again. thank you for having me. staking with you all on circular economyall right, next up parks department. we have brian dewitt, who is joining us as ouristrative analyst brian. hi. glad to be here with the environment and, look and working on the me, but my kids and my nieces and nephews and of time in scouts as a leader, taking kids out the principles of doug trace. so and iw up in pennsylvania in a rural area. and nature with me out here to california. thank you so much,ave. oh the. speaker is very interesting. it's

just a little soft. testing, testing. do you want maybe give the other mic? well i contacted.t was not on. so be right he. o go test all right. i guess next person on the mic will we're going to welcome our new hires, chang who is joining us as a senior commercial bodner, our commercial zero waste assistant coordinator construction and demolition associate. and three new environmental associates, walter jones raymond liu and a familiar face to sfa, who was once ourte action corps fellow, carly chang. so in any any . hello, my and i'm the senior commercial toxics reduction coordinator. i'm really honored and excited to be joining of the environment. i have over 30 in the

environmental health field specifically working on protecting the public from tox chemicals and most recently the center for environmental health, a national ngo based out of oaklandg toxic chemicals out of food packaging and foodware getting, environmentally preferable through 12 schools. thanks. thanks walter jones. i'm joining education team as an education environmental educationociate, i'm super excited to be here and tge youth across sfusd. hello everyone. my name is raymond be joining the environmental department as an education education associate. i'm really excited to be able schools. i had a wonderful opportunity a couple of years agoeacher. so i'm kind of bringing a little bit of here, i used to work in healthcare, so i' change, but i'm really excited to jump . hi everyone. my name is kali. i'm one of the three

new environmental educa was really fortunate last year to be a zero waste team at sfe, and i'm really excited to team and bring my experiencenal background in wildlife and conservation biology to my new role. t. hello everyone! my name is beth bodner. i'm the new zero waste assistant coordinator on the commercial team, the majority of my professional experience has bee corporate social responsibility and operations recently, i worked in edible food recovery, which. so i've kind of crept closer and closer to this world of environmental policy. really excited to be here4w. hi, my name is anna zero waste associate for construction and demolition. i come customer service waste management, landscape and construction into the environment most of my life honored to be a part of this team. and yeah, just get to know more and learn more and meet everybody. great and we have one more new

hire whom not here today. alice herr, who is our new commcy affairs manager, kind of got the title rightay, she will be here clerking this in the seat that charles is sitting in in addition t have several interns that were really excited to fellows perhaps, we have nicole wilmot, izzy shoals, and hogan kinde think they're. oh come on up. okay, there we go. no. is it working? okay, perfect. i'm a student at the university of san francisco, double mainternational studies and spanish, i am here as i said before, with a fellows program at the through the and i'm just really excited to be here, kind of goes on, especially during these meetings as well. so yes thank you for the opportunity to be here andng us virtually. we have hui lee, who has been with

us for over nine years. you've seen has been promoted to our senior toxics big shoes of maggie johnson, whom we recognize at. but we all know he's up for the task. so, hui, if a few words virtually sure. i hope that everyone can see me or hear me at least. so good hui and yes, as ty said hopefully you know me by now. i've been at the department for just aboute years doing work mostly around household hazardous waste, and used oil. and so it is an absolute privilege selected as their senior residential toxics reduction. i look forward to continuing this great work has been doing, and i hope that i'm able to keep that work going and hopefully take this next level. thanks for having me. and that concludes our hires. if want to give a round ofur new folks. okay, i'm going to g you don't have to stick around for the you have somewhere you need to go, just feel free to, know,

quietly step outside if you'd like to stay. you're more than welcome to stay. aes the new hires. thank you. it's exciting. welcome, everyone, the finalendar are the minutes. so, commissioners, we have an action is there any discussion on changes to the draft minutes, do i hear the minutes? so moved. thank you. commis second. second. thank youtompkins. so we have a motion by commissioner bermejo by commissioner tompkins. hearing no further discussion. oh, sorry. go ahead. open up for public comment. yes, are there any are there any members of wish to speak on items two through four of the ? madam president, we have noht. hearing no further public comment, my name tanovic. i am on the environment department pardon for deirdre. she's calling media that. and she was not on mute, so no worries. she's she's helping out from afar. so thank you, deirdre for that. and i have muted her. thank you. no worries. public comment is

now trials. please call the roll for item four. sure. thank you fo president juan i, vice president sullivan commissioner bermejo i commissioner hunter i commissioner tompkins i commissioner yuan please. next item public comment. members of the public may are within the commission's jurisdiction and are not on today's agenda. and so to that end, are there any members of the public on this item? madam president, we have no. public comment is now closed. next item please. item six presentation and an update on the sponsor is lowell chew energy program manager. the speaker specialist. paul gray environmental specialistsenior environmental health inspector, department of public health. this item. good evening. evenin change. it is working. i just have toit. good evening commissioners and director drew. my'm the energy program manager. and thank you for the opportunity to sef this evening. i'm joined by

my colleagues well as my colleague from the department of public health, karen you present an update on the fixed lid that sef program was born 20 years of hard fought lawsuit against lead paint manufacturers. today they sef environment and the department of pub unique talents of both agencies in designing andograms. so it's my great honor that iryan to open the presentation. so i'll pass it over to ryan. thank you, commissioners. okay. my name is ryan ramos. i'm as lowell introduced. i'm a senior andonment department. i'm joined here with my colleag paul gray. and we're here to give you sef program. and i'm going to turn it over to karen. you hoped tothe fixed lead program. thank you.

commissioners. my name is i'm a senior environmental health inspector with the the health department in san francisco. and i have worked for the last 33 years, since the inception of the lead program. that the lead program can partner department in doing and implementing fixed lead sef. not only do paul and ryan bring proper construction skills for the project, they also bring knowledge of how to use environmental, environmen protect the environment while we'r lead poisoning. so right now i would like to for the fixed lead sef program. so concern? well, lead is a toxin forildren and adults but children tend to get lead poisoning more often they get the lead in their body more stick non-food items in their mouths. so since l not have any use for lead whatsoever lead that goes into our body is considered a poison. and thus ev bit amount of it in our body we

ar. and so lead affects neurological or neurolo it affects the children's iq, their growth and as well as behavior. and so when the lead is in our bodies, there really isn't a medicinal treatment poisoning. and so the only method for lead poisoning is really to the lead problem. and there are many leadn our environment. but primarily in san francisco. found in our buildings. we have that there are over 200,000 residential units francisco that probably contain lead based paint soil. because these buildings were built were still in use and basically there are two approaches for rf lead in a unit.approach we call that interim control. and these are basi to reduce the exposure ofds. and these approaches inc cleaning or establishing maintenance.

operational programs, so t this is really temporary. that means the lead hazards can back and they can be people can second method, the second strategy of eliminating lead abatement. and this is basically permanently lead or lead hazards such as replacing the building elements the abatement approach is preferable bec rid of the lead. but it's also the moreead sf is not the fir remediation work. the mayor's office of housing. the work had provided very valuable information for shaping our let sf develop this program. we interviewed the mayor's office of housing lead certified contractor owners, tenants, as well as our own lead staff. one significant feedback we dialogs is that and we incorporated, is

that the city needs to reduce the speed at whic contractors who do the remediation ares reason fixed lead sf had contracted together sf as an environmental as an the second items, the second piece of informt from these dialogs that really helped us was how to target program. first of all, we really have in spite of how much we think we have it reallyhelps us to target our population andm 30 years of blood lead data that we have in the 2020 census tract, fixedwe're going to target first primary. now, later on change in zip codes (941) 109-4112 and 94124, and the second piece of information that we have going to target the scope of work that we'll be engaging in, so fixed lead sf has interim control for the last and the mayor's office of housing had primarily on interim

controls. so with this, once in a l will remove as much lead as from our r as possible. fixed lead assets would do the abatement that is and dangerous for property ownerswn and those are the windows and the doors and the soil. the can easily and inexpensively take care other components such as the baseboards in their home. so the applicants , they know, we tell them several times during period of work that we will not . that's really impossible. and they seem that. and they acknowledge this reality thathave in san francisco. so we began the program with sev projects for about eight months, during which we family care, child centers, how to manage the soilnd the best methods for doing abatement and relocation we're in the midst of the program core now, our applicants mainly come from

department asking and being concerned about lead in their homes. and we would tell them about fixed lead health department. we sent out newsletters to about 1000 medical providers and child care services per year for child care services from these we have recruited and now,ght will come share about the scope of work. required good eveningy name is paul gray. i'm an environmental specialist at the environment department conducted on the fixe projects needs to be done by state certified lead professionals, which include inspectors, project monitors supervisors and their workers. we a government program running projects in privatectors. i have a carpentry b certified project monitor. i write the scopes of and help manage the program projects. the su actual abatement or interim

controls, and they are truly a niche group to do the work that we the special certifications required. functionally speaking, there are dozen companies in our zone marin, san franciscoteo counties that have the potential of doing the work m to work with us. karen mentioned the difference between abatement. well, interim control is jobs done with our colleagues throughout the nd currently outside our program in the city. we decid abatement work, which results in a greater level of long term health protectio increases the costs. as karen mentioned from the supervisors perspe things since the costs per jobes not change much based on the project scope size, we wan of not too small or big t most hazard reduction with our program money talk about project scoping, so in order to speed things along, i about doors only and the complexities that go into the decisions. interim control for doors would be they close properly with no friction. then stabilize any peeling paint give

it a fresh coat of paint. if you would do nothing at all. we don't do this in this program. abatement would include a complete removal of the door frame and trim b and just the strip. the contact frame, or c fitting the door and strippingd frame. these are all different levels abatement methods are an option based on specific circumstances on t site. if we go with the complete removal, we also need to be aware of the potential disturbance of asbestos in compound. this requires a couple of extra trips to the job site, of testing necessary of the substrates. then decisions the project scope. the property own negotiated. perhaps they want to keep the originaltectural integrityd sizes which would increase in cost replacement costs and af my decision stripping paint. thesefor the workers, since methylene chloride was prohibited, but significantly due to the increased set time of current strippers and a 4 to 5 time

incr going after items that are intact, such as the doors throughout the unit that test positive, leads to a larger scope of work, and the number which increases job site logistics and the percentage of projects that need relocation. this has an entirely different to the decisions made for my on with see that not all jobs are the same and all present u to add that while environmental issues are always on my these decisions, reduction of lead hazards is my primary concern. t time. pass it back to ryan. than to give you commissioners an upda the program, the collaboration with the department of environment department began in the fall of 2022. since then we've received approximately 30 applications. and out of those, we have completed 1212 projects. and in presently, we have seven additional projects that are in different is presently under construction two more which willhe next few weeks, and the remainder the vetting

process. so out of thesets, we include is included a home care facility, which reduced lead hazards to many, many children. to date, thent approximately $600,000 on the project work, includes lead and asbestos testing. lead from the buildings, as well as tenant and owner reloca to karen to discuss lessons learned related to these, so i would say the first thing i, i is, that, you know talking to people who have gagement is very important. i believe that we have been to ramp up this project so quickly because we have learned in the past. just as i had mentioned be the limited number of certified inspectors and i mean contractors, if we didn't, if we didn't reduce, we don't reduce the city pays, then they would not work for us. so that's, that's that was the primary thing we learned. and we getting that barrier eliminated. and the se learned that this program really is going to help me in my

department to continually improve it. normally i just do an inspection, write a notice violation, and expect the property owners andhe abate and relocate. but this job really has shown me all the details and all the, the things through in order to, to get the lead hazard really helps me to appreciate what they do what they hav think it will help us, you know, improve health department's lead program as well. and the last thing is we don't know what we don't know. and the program is always encount challenges, and we will always going to be them. and that's pretty common with with construction projects, we're just going to have to sort they come up. so the last thing i wanted to discussns for the program. so right now we have about wetypes of new plans that we have. one is enhancing and improvi actual conducting of the lead hazard second is to utilize fixed lead to improve the o environment. so some of the plannedich the department

of public engaging promotoras, which are community health workers, to improve the recruitment process into the program. in addition, the program is looking to address conditions in homes that may hinder instance, there are homes that may require extensive renovation, , cracked walls, etc. and this preventsreduction activities from taking place. looking for funds that are available to help these types of issues. since the lead funds are not in this case, the other area that we're planning on is using the fixed lead approach as an. so the lead settlement funds, as i mentionedimited to strictly working on lead reduction. so we've looked for ways to secure of public health grant under a healthy homes initiative, to allow us to catalog natural gas equipment in the be water heaters, furnaces, cooktops and dryers, evaluate the condition

of this equipment and then at the building constraints that may be present. this help san francisco environment characterize the building. the building stock, and then potentially offer them future currnization programing you commissioners, for your time, and we're available for questions. commissioner, anyone have questions you mentioned about 60 does it mean it's not time bound. but once you exhaust all the funds then the program ends. or how is it or is it still a pilot phase like so we are presently the core phase of the program. so we've spent themselves. we have another. so we've set aside 14 million to cover projects and we are hoping to scale up the program in order to get spend rate a little bit higher. it's been a bit of a challenge getting the to the program and making sure we have sufficient number of contractoro do the work, but we are doing our best effort have a bunch

of contractors available. okay so it's 40 million. that will go guess. so presently, our contract with theator of rebuilding together is five years, with the option to extend. so at this we are i will readily admit, we a we had hoped for, so we will be looking to increase that sf years of the contract with the program administrator. to be in certain type of like income capalified to this program, or is it open tocility? we have considered the an income cap. presently we like the zip codes that we've selected t the homes with the highest lead and alsoith homes that have typically lower income families. as a part of our screening criteria, we at, the income of we don't specifically ask for the income, but the program, that we prioritize are ones that have the equity comp families, and there's no cost to the owner. it is no cost to the owner. if they have child if the property

owner wants to complete a project no children in one, soilding, they can we can treatren at no cost. the units without children we have a cost sharei definitely learned a lot. any other fellow co questions? one other question. so is the limiting availability of contractors who are able and wil. i would not say that's the limiting factor that higher when we scale up, that potentially be a limiting factor. but right now, i would say the limited enrollees. and that's why we're increasing our outrea using promotoras as well as otherng people who have come forward and said, i'd like they fit the profile of actually having a c in the homes. sometimes applicants that have very minor, like maybe they just need to, like repaint that our contractors tend to want to have a minimum order to actually participate. and so a tricky piece. we've considered other areas of potentially order to get a

higher threshold, however, thaome to we have not put one. so another approach might be, if that's the limiting factor, to ex codes down the line, that is certainly a tactic that we ha point. we don't feel that, but we are certainly have that . yes, commissioner, is there a way to estimate how many total facilities or homes may of remediation or removal? aaron mentioned that there are 200,000 units that were built there's a high likelihood that of those 200,000 have lead paint in themve an exact estimate of say, also have children that also have deteriorating conditionstion, however those three zip codes because based on health department data they've collected over the lead programs, we feel like that isn of homes, and we want to focus our efforts there for the time'm wondering

if maybe, i don't know if this is sold, it has to go through a home inspection. if maybe flag that and flag if there's children moving into a home know as a way to like prioritize those with children in the homes. right. take that into consideration, commissioner. what all of public housing just to have that mandated and work, administration in that in those spaces a schedule? it seems likey in need and may not need to go through, you know, someone making a call or an outreach. right? so you're suggesting that, there should be some effort to look at public lead hazards there? yeah. i, the assumption is that there are definite know, you know, pre prior what prior to 1978 would have been put those on a list immediately. about the outreach. go directly to those sourcesget them scheduled. okay. that's and investigate or whatever, you

know to ensure that they meet the profile. right? so just to little bit of context on our the first have entered the program they have been r from the department of public health violation. so we are looking to address the ones that we are aware of with children that have a blood, but that is a good consi a new way to bringd be in a more proactive manner rather than waiting for us. so we'll put some time and thinking into that thatat would be great. and i don't know if there's a data ana directly between health department and environment, but approaches of how do you mine give you the leads for those that youput on the list. right. thank you. just one question to follow up on, commissioner can you use promotoras to do thatalk to folks in public housingwhat are the zip codes? i don't were focusing

on. karen can you remind me do you want me to, well, first of all, i wanto talk about the public housing, most of the public housing ive already been retrofitted, and so, yeah, and i some outreach in section eight housing, but we haven't had much success yet, so. but we will continue doing tha on are 94110, which is the miss area 94112. that's our. and 9412 bayview. okay. thank you have one more question. once you remediate, is time which you come backce it's done, it's fully abated we were talking about when we were talking about control and abatement. those are the two strategies of reducing. so the interim control we didn't want to choosee to do. you have to go back because ba is deteriorated, you just cover over it. and the next time youw, bump into it and it deteriorates then you have toethod is where you take out the lead. you just strip you replace

the door altogether and with a new door it. and so in that case, you don't have to. but because in san francisco with lead, they will never be a time whe at least. and some some are, because theo have literally the whole thingnd do rebuild there will be lead paint in the an inventory of what's been interimt, i would say all the casesd with in terms of the health department cases of housing, most of those have been interim because the very expensive. for example, we concentrate on taking you, i don't know the windows are very expens that we can't use methylene chloride know, probably why is because it's a carcinogen. we can't use thahave to use other methods and other strippek, painstaking work. and so people don't do abatement because it's very painstaking and very exp hear it once and is quite complex, convoluted sometimes. yes. i think that's all the

questions we have. thank you so muchor your presentation. thank you, commissioners, for the very insightful comments. appreciate your time as always. are there any members of the comment on this item no speakers. okay, is now closed. next item please. the next item is item seven. presentation and update green building and decarbonization efforts. the sponsor, cindy comerford the climate program manager. the speaker is nick kestnerse mclane, building decarbonization associate. this item is discussion. evening hear me? my name is cindy comerford. i'm the climate program manager introduce our next item which is an update on the work building task force, for those of you who don't know our municipal green building starte passed legislation that established the municipal greenand the associated task force that go it, and the municipal green building really

crucial role in letting the city lead areas of building resilience and sustainability. so last year last march, an update of the municipal green building code, w align the code with our climate plan and an important future initiatives, so 20 years, we've seen some very notable leadersrce. we had mark palmer and eden bruckman and now the municipal green by my colleague nick kestner and is í elise mclean. so they're going to provide an update of theork on the municipal green building task force, and also talk about a veryion project that is, again having the city lead by example. and i'm going to introduce nick. thank you good evening commissioners. my name is nick kestner. good to be going to briefly provide an overviewicipal green building task force before my colleagpal

natural gas equipment inventory. and we spend most of the timeuestions or questions around that topic. i've last april, and i'm excited to be representatives from the various departments around the city, work falls into three categories. we the task force about green building topics. we asked to share successes and discussions around green building with us on the task we work on policy development, similar to the chapter seven updates that got here. in terms of ongoing some of the topics we've looked at over the past year. but the main ones. i do want to spend just a little time talking about embodied carbon. as part of the last chapter seven the requirement for embodied carbon checklist for projects greater we decided that we would spend four meetings going through various aspe of reducing embodied carbon in the building environme products that have a lower embodied , using wood materials like you can see in this proje, and just understanding also procurement and costs for

these materials that would replace things like concrete or steel second big agenda item are department presentations. we've had a number of them last year and it's always gr what's going on in the various departments. and to just sha materials or new products or approaches. i will also re any time a department wants to request a waiver from our green buildin to use a different rating system, or because a particular project is too small in scope to really have sustainable requirements, mak apply them through leed, they will come to the committ the argument for why their particular project should receive a committee agrees that that recommendation is passede for final signature and area where the task force is active is in developing new guidelines and policies for mun. besides chapter seven, we had an opportunity to guidelines. this last year, my colleague peter presented on kind of the goal of the biodiversity guid representatives from the could

streamline those requirements and incorporate them into the da work of project managers. and then at the end of this presentationexciting new project we're doing to try to streamline our green building reore we get there, let me introduce my colleag with you her amazing work on the municipal naturalga good evening. co nick mentioned, one exciting municipal green building was the completion of the municipalral gas equipment inventory in 2023, which i'll share briefly about today. so as referencedorth a variety of requirements for our municipal bu ensure that we're pushing towards our green building and and one of these requirements was the municipal which was outlined in action b024 of the climate action plan as well asction b, four of the municipal green building code. so over the2023, the san francisco environment de inventory, ultimately across 22 departments. and this listngs only includes those that were

required within chapter seven. so this excludes port buildings school district buildings, water treatment facilities and of co not depend on natural gas in the first place, and the work inventory all of these buildings was thanks in largeembers across these departments who worked really hard detailed equipment information and submitted it, submit department. so the big pictu of the inventory was to collect baseline data on gas equipment to support planning and really to allow usly track our citywide progress towards electrification, so i'll just by the inventory today. but more detailed in the inventory report and also on data sf. so the inventory revealed these 228 buildings that were inventoried, there are over 1600 pieces of natural gas s equipment serves a function of spacethen cooking and water heating equipment each manother 20% of the inventory while clothes drying and

misc up the rest, so the inventory also provides valuable insight into the showing an average age of 13 years and a media six years for this equipment. and given thatequipment has an average lifespan of 20 years or l of this equipment will reach the end ofr at least its projected life, before our neutral deadline. so knowing that knowing these spec items were installed will help departments to assess the predicted year of failure of these equipment items and electric replacement and any associated work that. such as electrical load increases. and finally, the inventory, of course, also reveals insight into where our gas equipment is concentrated can see here, well over half of our gas equipment is used three departments the airport, recreation andportation agency. so knowing where this equipment is when it comes to prioritizing electrification and resources

so that we can maximize the impact in terms of carbon emissions reductions. so now that this inventory been completed, there are several next steps that are laid out to and the first of these next steps is for updating their inventory as natural g electric alternatives. so this allows for an effective way for us to really keep closely tracking cityw progress toward electrification, and allows this resource inventory to remain useful rather than just being and been propelling collaborative and larger scale between the department of public works, sfliency and capital planning and the sf pub commission. so these collaboratinging together to identify a pathway to implement electrification by strategically, updating the capital plan withestimated or projected and estimated costs

finally centralizing and streamlining the project management of these electrification projects within the depaworks. so we are still in the early phasesthere's certainly a lot of great energy and motivation behind this work, so we'll to share more updates in the future. and to round us out and just to finish priorities. so finishing the decarbonization that planning back to the task force to start having conversations departments is one of our main priorities right now education sessions and department presentations. and then the earlier that's really important is making sure that our for projects under 10,000ft!s when i first started this job, i had informational interviews witlot of the task force members and a lot of them independently brought up the factts their project managers are having to handle a lot more workhave fewer consultants on board for those small projects. and so re like a lead checklist that isn't actually being for certification, it adds a lot ofllaboration

with the members in theis to figure out ways that we can stay true to our sustainability goals, but incorporate gts six checklist that all projects need to submit, rather than requiring paperwork. so actually, we have a meeting setomorrow to start finalizing what that would look like, but hopefu we will have a slightl easier for us to comply with our sustainability goals. so with that i to finish today and offer some space you to ask questions of any of the three of us. thanks for your information, fellow commissioner. anyone has any questions? items? yes, i have oneich was great, i have an acquaintance who's an arborist who had heard from some contractors working with the biodiversity requirements. while ago. so it's not fresh in sense was that there had been a recent change and a requirement plants to the point contractor felt it was it was kind of inappropriate been a recent change? and is

there aat strict of a requirement for for native plants when you're working with the city? i'm going to see if cindy has a better answer than this, but i will say that the biodiversity talking about today are just for municipal buildings. so i'm not sure project was for a municipal project or for i don't remember. have an update for. so the guidelines are just guidelines. so they're not mandatory requirements for native plants. they are suggestions on best practices around n for biodiversity. there also is a separate effort that you might know about around to try to have more prioritization of native street trees, but tole menu of street trees available to different arborists. so ho we have not. there's not any misconception about what what they're for, and we'll be happy to follow upyou. and we can speak to that individual. but there's nobody at sfd that looks nope, nope, nope. that's not happening. okay. thank you. not yet. thank you. i'm back over to nick. good to clarify. thanks f question. any other questions or discussions open up for public comments theny members of the public who wish to comment on this? madam president, we have no you

for the presentation. let's go to the next item. is item eight presentation and an update on progress of reduction initiatives. the sponsors tyrone chew, the director. this item is up into two parts. item a presentation on an updateo sf grant program. the speaker is alexa kielty, is for discussion and an item b presentation on theampaign. the speaker is shradha mehta. community partners eng for discussion. commissioners. we've had a few conversations regarding edible food recovery at this meeting. i want to say that thanks the team you're hearing about and many others, san has been a model for the rest of the state as faras been on food recovery and so today, we want to talk some of those programs to give you an idea of what's been gn also heard that we received a calrecycle grant original request was 1.3 million, if you recall. so how great a job our team is doing that th to expand our programs in the city. and so zero sf, we have alexa kielty and then she'll be joined by

shraddha afterwards. good evening commissioners all again. for those who don't know me, alexa kielty i'm the residential zero waste senior coordinator, and i'm going to give you some backgroundd on food. i'm sure many of you know b particular. so the first part, i'm just going to give some background, which wition on why we focus on food waste reduction in households. and results from our zero waste or our kitchen sf cal recycle grant. so many of you know, our food that's raised and grown in the u.s.. a lot of that gets thrown in oure climate, because food in our landfills produces. unneeded transportation, of course, has a climate impact latest from refedpartners who tracks food waste, if you look o, basicallyf food waste in this country comes is left that doesn't meet spec, is left 35% is somewhere in the supply chain. so

business community and then 48% is actually home. so that's a higher number than we pret it was more like a third. so it really sheds light on on households, even though it's a really difficult area decided to with the household food produce. why? because 80% of ourt's getting wasted, 80% ? and of that,5% is produce, and produce isn't necessarily the climate reduction opportunity. butgreat place to start. everybody eats produce, and we all can it better in our homes. but today i'm basically focused climate action plan under our responsible consumption section. that's what our pc is to section in. the last part of that is getting excess food tommunities in need. so today i'm going to successful grants. we've had with cal recycle and the down this path is, in 2016, governor brown sb 1383, which is a huge,

short livedtant reduction bill. and there's a but one of them is requiring food generators. that means businesses that have food to donate their foo and there's two sections. there's tier one and tier two, but essenti tier one think grocery stores. tier twootels and venues both of these sectors have to comply. thinks it's a no brainer to donate food. there is significant cost to the business community to well as to the food organizations that want that food. so who pays for all that transport? it's significant and it's a big why we applied to cal recycle. we said we need these businesses into compliance with the law to assist them form those partnerships and that par the business community working with food recovery orgs, we have to make that connection. so the first grant was for second one was for 220 12,000 212,000, and it primarily as irt of the food from the generator, the to

the food recovery orgs. but it also paid e. and i think i've talked to you all about this before bsses in san francisco that have food donation matching software, which is really in because it allows food organizationsizations feeding the community to decide whether or accept that food donation. and if they do, a doordash delivery driver. or replay has own vans, and that delivery will happen in 30 minutes, which is super efficient. sure all the food recovery orgs, tier two businesses knew about this opportunity. so we outreach in three languages and we sent as mail anded a really easy online portal with. not too manyns because a lot of organizations are overwhelmed with themount of steps they have to take to get support, that picture is one of our grant recipients. excelsior strong. they serve 500 spanish-speaking families in the

excelsior and we worked with organizations to develop a fee model, which was sort of new to them. is ask them, what is the cost per pickup for your organization work? and they had to do some calculations around staff time, fuel costs bridge tolls, and that was done before, but really important for their organization. and there was a full range of costs. some were $15 up to $300 truck, going down to pick up atimes it's a box truck with somebody with a class b license and a pallet jack. and so there's a range of what we're talking about. and some of the outcomes 129,000 pounds of food over the last two years. and 800,000 pounds. so we're pretty excited. tha nancy hernandez, a leader in the community from excelsior on the ground. and to highlight thesehat were created, i'm going to highlight the big food and safeway extra food picking up, surplus food from safeway last two years, they did over

600 pounds of food. they didn't regularly established program until it here and there. but this really solidified the ongoing. and then we also have white pony express, picking up from sf market which, be all invited to come on a tour if you'd like. hopefullyot since the beginning of the grants those two rounds of done 3.5 million pounds andough this section. so what are some of our learnings? because we to learn from from how to move forward the prepared food complex, proper storage, packaging. everybody wants packaging. how do we make sure it's recyclable, that the allergens aren't leaking, the partnerships require a lot of hand-holding. it was a huge amount of time for our staff, was well worth it. but it's not a natural link always for hotel to find the right players in sanhink that's a great, niche for our staff unexpected costs, the recovery organizations sometimes get a mountain of food that's not that's spoiled. sometimes and orugh artichokes that have

gone bad, so they end up with food waste that they then have to either compost expense on them. and they're doing creative things by donating community gardens so they can compost. but it's somethingreally need to address. a lot of the food orgs are track the number of foods they pounds of, and it's a lot of administrative lift for they don't necessarily have the scales, they don't have the excel there's a lot of constrain example that's sf market. carolyn lazar she has to move pallets and pallets worth of food period of time. and we've had to rely on, unfortunately to pick some of we're losing some of our, our food that cou next round of funding we're really going to hope to address organizations do not want to charge the food against their mission but the money has to come from somewhere. so that's a thazle we're trying to solve here, a lot of our staff do feel like pay

because it is a real cost, and so how how do we sustain the funding for these programs on an question, we did try to offer food waste preventionlot of themwere busy trying to comply with sb 1383. but to me, future of food waste prevention. we don't want these numbe up, up up. we want to reduce. that's where the real climate impact is. mentioned, we got another 2.1 million. we're super excited practices going forward. so listening. and i will hand it to my colleague shraddha mehta good evening, commissioners. i'm shraddha mnt program manager at the department. and alexis lead in to my presentation, which is about ouron campaign. as alexa mentioned

wasted 48% comes from households waste prevention an important stra goals. and reducing food waste is simple action that's accessible to the general public. there are opportunities for food waste reduction, to understand residents perceptions around food waste. before we started this campaign. so in 2021 we conducted found that fresh produce and leftovers of home prepared foods are seen as the most common types of food waste. based on that, pre-campaign researchaunch an education and awareness campaign to encourage sf to reduce food by preserving their fresh also the largest category of wasted in alexis slides, our pre-campaign wasting money is a strong motivatingsidents to reduce their food waste. so our creative strategy focused on delivering a campaign that

hi reducing food waste and emphasizing that food is equivalent to wasting money. we aim to motivate residents with practical, straightforward easy to adopt habits to reduce food waste save them money. our target audience were two different neighborhoods the excelsior and bayview hunters point neighborhoods, and we selected these diversity in those communities, because of environmental just, and because of the large number of single fami the single family homes are usually the ones that produce larger amounts of waste. and so that was a one reason that we selected communities where we single family homes. although our campaign did reach other february 2021 when we pre-campaign research. and like withe pandemic, the timeline for this campaign has been and so the actual campaign period when it was live was april through june of 2024, and

we completed our post campaign research earlier this month budget was $400,000.year period, and that included the pre and po media buys on newspapers out of home displays, social media funding for commun and small business partners, collateral and giveaways for residents, and the collateral and assets that we created. will used as we move into different move into expand this campaign in the future two neighborhoods. the campaign targeted, and it included components to reach our target audience. so i'll walk you through the three components of, of thisut of home, this included bus. it included transit shelter advertiansit shelters that we selected were neighborhoods. and while certain creative elements were focused behavior

through a negative reaction to rottingey that's wasted when you let your recognized that we needed a separate creative local businesses, of course, businesses that would not want an image of rotting food next to their business. and so our creative messaging for businesses focused on fresh how saving food is equivalent to saving money. and this is an example of a poster that was placed outside of one oed. our media partners did notave a way of getting messagingtarget neighborhoods, so sf staff stores and produce markets in those neighborhoods and signed on 17 stores to put up our displays. and our marketing contractor was then able to compensate those small gr their participation in the campaign also displayed shelf talkers that went in front of produce so that customers would get the appropriate tips and information at the point of sale participating small grocers received a few rolls of

compostable bags printed with compostable bags served a dual purpose in that th business money on purchasing the bags and deliveredse bags also supported businesses in complying with san francisco's pre checkout bag requirements. the last out-of-home component was that we put ads in shopping carts in two ofarkets in the neighborhood so one of them was safeway on mission was lucky's on is the online componentoff our campaign with some online number of social media examples of our animated social media ads also user generated style english, cantonese and spanish three campaign urls in e, chinese and spanish. and for this campaignnese url with chinese characters rather than our campaign

was community engagement, and this extended our reach to enhance or enhance our ability to and other community members. s.f. staff tabled and shared food waste reductionity at a variety of events. we also partnered with three community based or family connection centers and bayview senior services that to message to the communities they serve, and we train the subject matter. prior to the outreach one of the engagement acvi reinforced the learnings of our campaign with a reusable mug as a. other activities included a spinning wheel and a pledge card formbers. there was also a children's activity so that we could engage the whole family. some of the giveaways included tip cards and magneticps so that residents could post their to remind them as they were putting produce in their fridge. we also

gave away reusable produce bags. and a fresh produce guide. our storage guide was so popular newspaper ran it. the entire month of april of the agreement with them. so that was a dive into some of the results. similar to the prewe conducted a randomized post surveyrveys were conducted in english, spanish and cantonese targeted neighborhoods. and 220 interviews we that 1 in 10 of the resident seeing, hearing or reading about the campaign of the residents recall was so able to almost describe the ads verbatim the compared to the 2021 baseline research, more said that they are likely to take additional waste. more than 28,000 sf's and food waste website across the three languages, and thetion of the

two neighborhoods that we targeted. so that's a pretty highze that there could be people outside of thoseg the web pages. but what's exciting is in the urls manuall all three languages. so that's a of the offline impact of the campaign. 59% of those visitors visited the english page url, and 21% visited the chinese url, indicating a strong engagement with all three of. and then for the online resultstal online impression delivery was meaning that there were single instances of the online advertisements being displayed and this resulted in 31,000 clicks which an additional action of clicking on the advertisement to fi information. and these online results were two similar campaigns. we also got many media posts

style videos had the best enga all the different ad types, so at a language access ordinan videos are an effective method of reaching populat something we would want to do mo. our in-language successful. avocado the strongest performing creatives, and chinese eclipsed english with the highest click through rate. so as expected, it's that's relevant to the audiences and our cbo partners and our environment members. they participated and eesidents through those events. so all engagement was conducted in four languages in english, spanish, cantonese . and our mayor even picked up a few of our tips and tricks at a community event. there are learnings that can be applied to of online and

offl media with on the ground engagement proved to be an effective strategy for this campaignngths of each of those, and by focusing on specific neighborhoods, we were able to geotarget our messaging an partners who serve those. those while building the partnerships with local small businesses toin the campaign was a time consuming task, it was a to build relationships with those businesses ando support local businesses and reach residents at. our traditional media channels through our agreements with those small businesses in the larger grocery chains, chains. so it was necessary for our team to step in there. and the combination of images, videos and messaging with working with language media, in language media outlets and an effective strategy for proficiency.

so we see this campaign phase of this work. in the next phase, we hope to expand other neighborhoods. we want to addt produce. we want to work with additional communi neighborhoods that are targeted and we want to provid organizations for food waste preven to continue engaging small businesses in work to participate in the next phase of ourn. thank you so much. happy to. well, commissioner, no question. but creative, deliverables and the results that you've talkedand we'd love to see you come back w round of results from, you know, further engagement. so you so much. thank you commissioner. thank you i really appreciated the graphic posters. who who did that in particular? i thought then the fresh fruit particularly with grocery stores, was our contractor was mo to, they're a

contractor that we've worked with in the past. quite good, the question i have is actually the main quest geographic areas you'd like to expand this campaign to. thought? sorry, i couldn't hear. oh, do you have additional geographic arand this campaign to? we haven't determined which neighborhoods will target next, we're going to have we just got thendings of our post campaign rese have a debrief and talk about which neighbor similar criteria of diverse communities, and because it's similar messaging, we want to make combination of single family households in those communities. perhaps environmental justice considerations and, us creative from this campaign. so sure that it resonates with the next set of communities to you. just wondering if there's any plan to also expand the ads to like including vietnamese and also what we did was we from the office of civic engagement and at the, limited english profic neighborhoods we

targeted. and so that's how we which languages. but we will do the same when we pick as appropriate, we will potentially add lang as needed. great. thank you. yes, commissionerike i think i've heard other projects that made me think of to drive, you know attention to the website it just seems likey just drivers had to post it with the website and just put it on pe when they roll it back in should check out and food waste sf. org thank you for bringing that up in their newsletter that goes an article about food waste prevention with our get the word out. and they did say we that they said that they did receive a lotbout the campaign and people seeing the ads. thank you. that's a great thing. i justeat job. this is a very, very eye opening because what you've done is really working especially in those neighborhoods, and really look small business campaign down the road, becausea great piece. and thank

you so much for what you're doing for food production. very you. thank you so much. just one thing on thought of how you can tie what and the prevention segment over to the recovery again, it was like working yourself out of down to the point that that means prevention is really highly effective. so it's y and i have been coordinate the two efforts. and that's yes, th we're, looking to do more of to try to harmonize the two efforts. but thank you. i also do want to comment that i went to a l sfd booth is always very popular and very engaging. so thank you for the great work. thank you. yeah. if there's no further discussion, i guess we'll open up for public comment. are there any members of the public who this item? madam president, we have okay. hearing no further public comment is now. next item is item nine. the

director's report speaker is tyrone ju. the director of t document is the director's report. this item is for discussion. commissioners several key updates that i'll just highlight here. the more within your agenda packet. one did want to update the are slightly delayed in our move. our official move into market. we anticipate being able to move in by mid that's the updated timeline for the project we talked about the civil grand jury report and how ourned in the civil grand jury report. we did holding a hearing at the commission sometime in summerically in collaboration with climate sf, level rise. so that will be coming forward next policies. we are continuing to ev amendments to the all electric newordinance and expanded requirements on major renovations. you presentation on that, a couple months and so i'll just leave it there. to share in the near future. on the building decarbonsfully launched the climate equity hub and heat pump

water heater, direct install program. and so this is for income residents. and we've had a tremendous amount ofwo months so far 23 residents have signed up for theve installations and all of those installations hav owned contractors and small businesses here in the city charles mentioned at your be completing the transition one of the communications team and marketing and outreach over to charl and communications team. so this is to align kind of the messaging and the platforms we do on web graphic dn those efforts on one side and on the , also expand the work that strada has been leading on th engagement program team, again focused ontal education volunteerism, racial equity and engagement. so that's going to be kind of the one cluster here. and communications on the other end. and i think in the next meeting, new hire for our volunteer. and outreach efforts. s process. so hopefully we'll be able to make did complete a city exchangerip with the city of dublin

ireland. and so charles sheehan cindy comerford and lowell tew went on a delegation trip ovonsored through the international urban and out of the european union. so they learned a lot sustainability and circularity. we're going to be hos in october. and so when they come, we'll definitely invite,et them, and then finally mentions. we've had a lot of milestones and a lot of press ac talked about the, our city being the top city in the nat energy city award throughwe've highlighted our work around building decarbonizationvehicle program. and i think our most recent articleonicle story on ev charging. so i invite you to che out. and that concludes my report. thank you, director jue. questions commissioners, no further discussion. let's open up for public. are there any are there any members of theadam president, we have no speak closed, next item, please. next item is item ten. new business fuers,

charles sheehan, chief policy and public affairs officer this item is for d thank you. commissioners, next meeting is monday, room. and we do have kind of aagenda. starting with it's our approval of the reduced risk pest so we'll be covering all topics, ipm at that hopefully have a presentation from the climate sf team on the hazards and climate resilienced they are soliciting feedback from a and we may at that meeting or future meeting bring to you our, you know, annual racial equity update as well as we are trying to put some rules and regulations around our we may bring before you at that meeting, or a packed agenda. and i will take any questions. questions all right. let's open upc comment. are there any members of the public who wish to on this item, madam president, we have no morers. we have no speakers. thank you. public comment is now

closed. next item please. the. it's a special item. item 11. it's the performance evaluation of director tyrone zhou. this item is for it because it's a lengthy item. the firstn and part a is public comment. and then part whether to go into closed session to evaluate the performance of executive items for discussion and possible action, then presuming the commission votes to go into closed session, there will be item co evaluate the performance of executive director tyrone zhou. the performance review closed session material. this item discussion and possible action. and then, we will reconvene in open session. and that is item d a vote on whether all discussions held in closed session. that item is also for discussion and possible item. all right let's go comment. let's open up for public commentmembers of the public who wish to comment on this item? madam president, we have no comment is now closed. next up item please. the next sub itemte on

whether to go into closedcutive director tyrone zhou. is there any if note commission? go into a closed session to evaluate the performance of executiyrone zhou on moves. thank youll second. great. we have a motion by commissioner and president. commissioner sullivan. and then we further discussion. we'll open up for public commentre any members of the public who wish to speak on this item? madam p, we have no speakers. thank you. public comment i charles, please call the roll. president huan i, vic sullivan i commissioner an i commissioner bermejo i commissioner. hunter i commissioner tompkins the motion passes and we are entering closed.

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in some cases so some way that is a - i was able to recognize what did i need to be helpful take care of me when it comas helping other folks i'm helping them and about them. >> i like what you you say about getting out running i hate running though (laughter) but one of the things i realized and now in retirement really got sedentary in covid and and today, i'm finding that hard to to get out and do take a walk well. okay. but when it i'm glad but having tounlearn that as well as that lifestyle. >> but the health thingy important and we have to pay attention t that no doubt about. >> that taser i

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the couple i care before if people were looking atx( me before. (laughter). >> that's serious. things we need the i'm par seniors drumming group i zoom in covid but you drum during covid you're off and nobody can hear you we met the park and 10 feet away from eople drumming that is the connection with people away and keep a distance really kept and in a year we began drumming in the that was really, really wonderful a actually. >> that is interesting that i guess you know, we're hearing stories thatu help more people during the time downtime versus like i guess the notion t need to help you know the older people during and actually

you stepped out and helped other people like not about me but everything else and it is good you do that. >> one of the health wise to be with loneliness will be continue to be a for our society and in are living by themselves withoutnd we need to find ways to of that kind of thinking and people despite our concerns infection disease the that to that. >> - $24 million a year to and population is interested serving older ad that population and one of the reasons you said was welcomeness and how to help others and and

some of the nonprofit doing emergency generatiork it is critical for seniors to have int to the community and for folks get resources available from us and really h say we have to sort of push back devices (laughter). >> that to kind of sure wasn't the solutions are to that. i sucked into that really easily so we can do community devices or incorporate lives. >> i want to build on what you said the community because they need to be together is critical and i was conscious of kind of tribe you know, whether that was with church group or my community groups you know am with. and you

know for better or worse helping each other we are allthe families i was conscious of keeping our eye on that on my family and you know, my sister sisters has not come through ast coming out of the house and she's literally angled 10 yearsthe last two years of the so i'm conscious of e the need you call randomly three years but i pick up and call them now to reconnect and check own allhat i think the conscious rebuilding and row community and i know i as my tribe for whatever reason it is >> i'm curious subcontractors with other regularly lying share whether that is or advise or more keeping with absolutely most of my work gotten ordinarily

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really, really survival. >> w google a woman over 40 i started there and in used to be the youngert; right? but there was the ear group. people over 40ad to learn really quickly a c how to stand back and um be okay with a tower-year-old telling me what to do; right? and i'll say in general please don't tell me what to do i've been around long enough what to do but you know, whatever came out of schools i can learn something the i thought i hired my experience and worrisome and in google nobody looked like me wonderful to have done the cross generations

and having son was way a boermz but now i'm focused own other day there was a young african-american another table so fm was getting up older woman i had a limiting go over they're just to get toeel i - we need each know i need the i don't want to putmouth full energy and so i thinking about my >> (laughter.) >> yeah and yeah. that is really i cherish an cherish kind of butt the might and you know, one ev is i say yeah on my playis and technology i'm always training people whatever the thing is tore experience i like modern elders.

>> one of the things being a senior now is that i so we have worrisome a experiences and i thought about experiences mean not just it took a lot about what any life find myself writing my memory jars but given all that i realizeot to learn and to have an continually learn and not justt of sitting back and saying get but for must new but having go learn and the challenging assume i've you know, thought i knew maybe i don't knowlearn. >> significant thing. >> i was going to ask linda i'm were you always out strangers before or is that at

an i don't care what people think of me anymoreter). >> what's the benefits of getting he grew up she i wouldn't talk to strangersrangers or whatever but at some point certainly i got in any 40 that i want to talk last night - why i guess part of the essence as you get older you're titled to and people like tony morrison and who they are; right? and maybe that came with their age and being elder so i sho that are story tellers their l and connect with them and you know, models. >> (multiple voices.) >> and when w approach as elders they sort of us as

(laughter). >> that's true someone is sitting there and- >> (multiple voices). >> coming up to take. >> you're much more opento. >> my mother was like i saided and 4 but a withys said she may with north beach person an open authoritative because she was curious modeling for myself and i feel like just have a we're able to 0 anyone and hey how are you? and they're op to take with my challenge and career me to be a more public person and away from work i became more quiet engaged.

so this pierson of doing what i needed to do and saying what to do and after a speech people will come up and start to engagement and that work into my life i became willing to talk to folks because me. and when i was doing health work and - b a group of groups of people i needed engage with them. >> which i from the pull petty had things to say to people i learned how to be a public person with whatever congregation i was working with back in the morning that kind of thing and it takes a lot of energy to be up front you know, and so

then once i would get through reluctance to be engaged people seem to joy. even any grandchildren bus that's pretty rare they enjoy my conversation yeah yeah, yeah. >> okay. so i do in rapid fire questions withanswers or kind of short comments out questions to you guarantees. okay. so one question is you guys regret more photos or videos notng great documented. >> i have to sort of them yep. >> i wish i had taken more those days you know, and preserved with film meras. >> yeah. about you guys sleep less and d what you try to

use more time do stuff. >> it takes more time. >> i sleep i take a nap every afternoon (laughter). >> yeah. >> huh? >> that's great. do you the term seniors or he recalls negative or norm? >> i'm not crazy about the but, yeah yeah. >> i agree with that a modern early which the thing i'm embraced the term he part of what i am. >> with like to use your senior discount orr a senior way (laughter). >> absolutely and what what- >> (multiple voices). >> you ow. >> (laughter.) >> that's right take my >> do you guys expect people to kind of give more respect now you're older like how to listen there's a seat there and they should or open

the door for you things lik >> no, no. >> this iscalifornia. >> (laughter) that's a regional on the bus someone getst i'm i say no i don't need it (laughter). take the seat- >> (multiple voices). >> thank them younger people but don't want them to offer itme. >> i offer it to older birthdays accompanyor each birthdays. >> i'm having two parties 0 woul southern california and one here. 75 a landmark for me. >> (laughter.) >> i have a partytimes in new york or last year. >> i do every they don't mean that much s a party. >> think that acknowledging this is good or

or - >> i think a good people connect through the pandemic and items you know zoom and face time things of that nature we isolated but i can call or face world and say you know and it is not a big deal i canearlier i agree with three i mean i guess i get my 13-yeas a good tool. >> my mom one hundred and 4 without leaving the house so attend church onndays that is really good for her. >> silicon valley and apple and google? addicting a downside but putting that it brings us together but is distracts for the notifications but a i see scary i'm trying to

stay ahead of that. >> the last one think about like your health like the meals you eat? i don't know know your day is that you think about it or you'll figure it out. >> i pile there if i don't i won't you know i'll stop moving. that to me heavily intoeel it is need to do that and i'll stop. >> i have replacements one on each side and as soon as as i get back to running that is important but age group we do 5 minutes (laughter). >> we have to do i'm aware i'm moving more i don't have as much flexibility to have so

i'm trying to - of that and trying to deliberately. and then also wildlife's are deliberate how we eatking much more carefully ab and we pay attention to that. >> one thing about the. >> well, do nuts (laughter). >> and kind of everything hurts but- >> (multiple voices). t that didn't hurt yesterday why is ittoday? as we're dancing or whatever it once you stop yeah. >> another topic i want to talk about for me and my culture i know you'll take care of m i am right now but wondering for you when you were i guess getting up to the r are you hoping to expect you're take care of you when our older or a hindrance to take care of you and way they won't

have that not a problem but a t do you feel about that and i don't want take care of me i expect niece i don't want to sadly him and want to be able to at hisbetter or we're adjourned and if he getsmy awards he'll help. kids in my life have talked about we know we wantives but set up our lives financially we we don't need them we'll be able t take care of ourselves and live on our owthough come and visit us sour grandkids. >> i feel the same way but 76 years enemy which was an incredible expe again, i said at one hundred she wastill. >> at one hundred

(unintelligible). >> (laughter.) >> but she up us to be independent b knew culturally was a gift tocare of her and i want to have my dau trying to set it up be. >> you plan for that. kids that live in various parts of country we talk about buying an r v spending time at each kids driveway and they say dad joke is getting really laughter we don't want to move where our are to be close to them they can and see us, we spend our times with frien kids and grandkids on that in that sense. >> so uk i guess i want this as well as far as ae come to

your mind like because of friends or oat family are away is that on your mind kind of o not oven at all? >> funeral at everyone d so much from that legacy i love the stories and talking about the person and celebrated so that's how i processed thatk about my own debate but celebrate people w though attributed to the world i get good are death. >> i think about my own death we celebrated her life and h friends on the verge of they have taught me that in life i live until you transition you're not dying i a celebration you know we have drag shows and have parties and have like

celebrations drumming and i think that is you know celebrating our lives and we transition. >> i have to say contemplated the idea of retiring one little how many years to do those ot and retirement will food me have been thinking more about when but yo-yo want to spend the my life getting ready to die but being engaged in theiences and will not jump out airport or par shutting but i want to living is the significant thing and not just the design. >> i like it reflection my work and aids spent a lot of time talking about the little things as opposed to dying i'm ready and continu living not dying but li really, really

principles at it table we a financial resources in education and language and but we can do what we want to do. so seniors you know, that don't have a lot of our attention others can make the choices we make because not in our situation. maybe be fairly stable the medical thing hits and it's deva friend will have to spend facility em thousands of dollars a month a it is financial butcher is serious. so system can an fixed up a little bit betghter) and i agree. >> (laughter.) i want to quickly mention a about this man that studied a high concentration of people living around the older so found 5 got through

two episodes and ita and loma linda and the rituals and how are caused that and coming up with i highly recommend watching i spirlg i learned about things i set things. >> w last night too. i don't know what podium i but result is facilitating oc no was over hundred. >> music was incredibly important part of her life continues to play and think keeps you going. >> and people were walking up steps; right? >> (multiple voices) (laughter). >> walking up and down beach everyday, everyday. >> wow. >> as talking about the legacy leaving

milestones that your trying to i feel like for me when i say talk to my friends and or enemy whatever any milestones you'rehe next 10 years. >> a bunch of criticize go to and the big thing my memoirs and got to my memoirs and my friend to write my memoirs. >> there's want to visit and have friends in var worlds and saw them once 20 year ago and i?y again but the thing i found the was important part of legacy down my life. m working title my life but alsoed used to have is experiences need to get back to the history of things going onchicago in 1968 and what

recommending it and - but part of it on leave a legacy for grand children and great grandchildren that is the life i don't want to leave it but that's (laughter). >> for me, i have a list of travel and absolutely want to go want to go to go tona through the don't ever no return it is importan spiral kind of way to know that my through that door and literally turned i wanted to go through the door of no return. and and we survive. guess mine is simpler want to see the northern light a grandchild that is far away i'm alr no interest at all that in my grandkids i was 50 before had weaughter

from an older par we have grandchildren and great day, if if i go to bed happy and a connection with friends and joy know i've done the that's my milestone. >> jimmy youned wanting to go to guatemalan in a - came back in 2020 and 6 weeks later thank god guatemalan in a and discovered so many things the feeling of seeing people that look and have been to beautify musicothing and just the sense and close to your

here's americans are a exodus their best lives beating cancer and, you know having a 7-year-old you know that's the baby but anywa i couldn't do but (laughter) i'm was amazing i hope to trip to georgia in ay for someone i'min any 40s and is there anything you share to me as advise for my next how many should? any advise sure i can apply it tor than me. >> be curious be curious things and being willing to embrace new ideas. i that is really is invigorating and keep drumming. >> (laughter.) >> yeah. >> (laughter.) i agree with that stay

curi and like keep on swimming in neuro montu. >> if you think that is possible go for that go for and whenever you go you achieve will be yours. >> don't be afraid to make a major change in our life to become a presbyterian minister of 50 and wonderful 20 plus best things i ever did and put aside did before that but do thing embrace new thingse is a good thing. >> and the last know who you are and who you are and people from a young age trying to figure out who am i and and

that; right? and if you want to be you. that's w joys is. >> engagement critical energy and family whatever be mes spiritual and even with we think we'll get over them (laughter.) >> sometimes you have to let a family member in work anymore lnd say. okay. >> that's the way what it is. >> thank you so much for coming today like learning and hearing your sto life stories is encouraging and people say that it has more it themselves and what they've done life and very super inspiring to hear from everyone i'm superglad. >> thank you for sharing our stories. >> thank you. >> community. >> a new in the bay area as a

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