sfgovtv for providing technical assianqbroaast and record this afternoon's meeting. broadcast on cable channel 26. let's please stand and recite the pledge of allegi. i pledge allegiance t the united states of america. and he one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty. and. dan, please call the rollme present. mango is pren member. proctor. present proctor

is present. vice president karen running late. member. nguyen. president. wynn is present. member. palmer. present. palmer is presentpresident. sue. present. president. sue is present. member. wecter present. victorpr there are six members present, and we have i t to make a couple of announcements, if the membersf r members have not yet seen the session where shamannalor shamad for a hearing on the sheriff's of, i think it really brought to light the lack of resources, and i hope people will take a view of that. and there was a good community showing as i want to thank, supervisor walton for calling that hearing. also, jusr brooker. again, another great graduation and another cohort, for the hunters point family and young community developers, inc, their environmta and job readiness training, that

was very inspirihad great chat with, one of the and his youngest six year old was reading really well, great convsa. and so i think you should be really proud . and the new center is really beautiful. the southeast community centeri'm reminded that, the bayview center was where kamala harris had her first headquarters when attorney. now, vice president. so it really just takes the community. so thank you very much for all you do. member. thanks for coming out, with thda yes, madam president, this is thehlpc meeting of the sheriff's department oversight board. members of the sheriff's oversil attend this meeting in person. members of the public are invited to observe the meeting in person, except for persons with d requiring a reasonable, reasonable accommodation. only members of the public ang ten meeting in person will have an opportunity to provide public

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that you two minutes are up. that is the end of announcements. thank call the first agenda item. dan calling line item one approval of minutes. action item. approval of the may third, 2024 board meeting minutes.: a mo t the minutes from may 3rd. thank you. do i have motion second that. could do a roll call? vote, please, do public comment first. oh, i'm sorry for memberse public who would like to make public comment on minutes. please approach the podium when it is free. commente role on the approval o minutes

member mango i mango is i member brer i bruckner is i member nguyen i win is i member palmer i palmers i members president su i su is i member we. since i was not present at the meeting,te no. wechter is no. there areveye minutes from the may third, 2024 meeting are approved. thank you. dan the next item. agenda. i'm sorry. item on thegenda. please colleen. line item two. inspector general report informational item. inspector general terry wiley will give a monthly report from the office of the inspector general. thank you for joining us at the dais. yes. it's great being up here. kind of a floppy microphone for you. no problem, well, good afternoon, everyone. so i will start off by, discussing, probably what has been the

biggest news regarding thesherfd we're talking probly mid march through late april, that period in which, ten deputies assaulted and one civilian, an employee, assaulten response, the shf ordered two jail lockdowns,he first being from april 12th through april 18tthe ancond being from april 28th through may 1st, and that was to investigate the cluster of assaults. over the past two months, i've been gathering input fromebo the recl lockdowns to better understand, these a contributing factors to the lockdowns, but also the impact of the lockdowns, and with the

lockdown, the impact the lockdowns have had on inmates, families of the inmates, the jail staff and on programing services, his the attorney client, communications and visitation, and then we looked at ways to address, the underlying problems to avoid the lockdowns of facility. and to reduce the lengthlockwnse collateral impacts of the lockdowns, as a result of all of this, on may 14th, the board of supervisors called a meeting in which they asked fthto general,f miyamoto, public defender, angela chan, and, oh, the deputy sheriff's association president, ken lamba to present on this issue. and be ou perspectives of the assaults, the lockdowns and just the

overall, situation. one board member, mike nguyen, was also as thoughts during public comment, that entire, three hour event was on, sfgate, gtv, and a su indicated, it's probably a worthwhile, view of kind of the situation with the sheriff's department. it ended up bei a three hour, hearing, and so the what, what the inspector general provided were the following. first, we looked at and we let the board of supervisors know the complaints that we h hearing, and one, of course, the complaints about the extended lockdown, and the profound effects they were having on the daily ut the inmates, specifically their ability to showeryou know, hygiene,

spend time outside the cell andd sunlight, there was a reduction of programing opportunities, limited, limited access to commissary and service providers and really preventing them from visiting family and loved ones, it interfered in cases with their ability to interact with their, and caused, and this w one. the biggest complaint was, was from inmates who had nothing to do with the assaults. and yet they were suffering lockdowns. and so they felt like they were being punished for something that they did not do and had had nothing to do with. so we looked at, well, what is what is some of the under what are some of the underlying rns that are

causing, well, we understand what are causing the initial lockdownsusin the length of the lockdowns and the clearly understaffing was one of the big reasons, for the extended lockdowns. currently, the sheriff's departmentancies n personnel, and thanu may fluctuate from week to week, the custodyon in are the custody operations division is at about 78. staffingtheye at 386 deputies out of 494, so there are approximately 108 deputies short of their custody operations, when ken lamba of the deputy sheriff's association presented, he gave a sho of the staffing levels over the past six years. and in 2019, the sheriff's deptmthis was pre-cove

sheriff's department was down only 48 deputies. and so they wereat 766 deputies, 2020, they were down 76 deputies. in 20th down 109 deputies.nd between 2021 and 2024, they were down 175 deputies and currently today we're at17 what we also concluded that wa those positions. but what is createdey created is an overreliance on ov, and it's mandatory overtime of the deputies, and we found that the deputies areveras overtime time per week. the mandatory overtime and long hours overtime tax fatigues and

stresses, the staffau morale problems and mood disorders. and clearly, this can lead to chronic health and mental problems so that the overtime the staff and the overtime is also very costl to the city and county of san francisco. so decreasing staff over the years has exacerbated, has been exacerbated by significant the jail population in, probably the over t l two years, we have seen an increase from about 800 inmates to about and we also see that in the future,ui to rie increase in the jail population has led to, of course, overcrowding in the jails. and he sheriff to open up a new jail annex to address the

overcrowding, it stressed it stretches staff, to cover more areas, the additional jail annel annex areas are available, but will require more f open them up, if they keep moving at the pace they're ter of the increase in the jail population, and all of it decreases the quality of life of both the deputies and the inmates. so the causes, as i said, that we heard of the lockdowns in april, were due to increase assaults on on deputies , the sheriff locks the jail down following the violent incidents to ass first, the incident and investigate whether thencsolad or or determining whether they're dealing with a more pervasive problem. is it something that's a more organized assault on the deputies, the sheriff's department may need to deploy

staff. well, generally, what happens when you have an assa at, because they're already understaffed. they have to do at they can conduct the investigation and that, in the end, results in the shutdown, because of the redeployment of staff, and collective bargaining agreements, require or specify a minimum staffing level iated ard so the sheriffas tmeet those , those specific minimum requirement s, which is the result. and as a, he has to redeploy personnel in order to meet thosements, now, the sheriff's department also onboarded nearly 300depues overr years, many of those deputies started during during the covid lockdowns and do not have a lot of experience with inn setting of inmates, and that is

a little bit of a problem in that the deputy, the new deputies just don't haves much experience, dealing with the inmates as that were hired pre-covid, also, there's been a big change1 in the composition f the inmates, primarily due to bail reform as a result of bail reformed iate population in san bruno, comingc era as a result of bail reform, tends to be those in those inmates that have that have, that are in theresef more serious and violent offenses, whereas the individuals that are, there for the lower level offenses that in the past may have beehoused at santa at at san brure an averagf

about seven days. and so the result is the long term, inmates are there for more serious and violent offenses. and mt, populo manage. and, a a result, they pose, a more serious consequences to the deputies if anything gets out of hand. and, as a result, we s, that because there are so because of there's been a ramp up, in the city of the arrest of drug offenders andand, well, really drug offenders, what the, the population has changed in that se more individuals in custody who are detoxing or mentally unstablee of that increase in, in the ramp up

outside and the arrest of those individuals. and so that poses their own unique challenges in that now you're dealing with the population, as i said, they're detoxinger dividuals who have mental health issues. and the personnel and the jail is really equippee equipped to handle this kind of population, there's also fundinn that behavioral health is not able to provide 24 hour services to those individuals who are detoxing or having mental health issues, and thatgyatic . so what are the we discussed? well all the recommendations that we recommended to the board of supervisors to consider, one would be the redeployment of

staff.no i know that there are quite a number of deputies that the sheriff has redeployed to assist with, the drug enforcement and the issues going on in the tenderloin. and that has takeniv, out of the jail and onto the streets . but by being on the streets, they're not performith are non-core functions as, of deputy sheriffs, the core functions of deputy sheriffs are , to control the jail and manage the jail. and so in order to reduce the reliance on mandatory overtime, then our recommendation is to redeploy that staff that's currently on the streets, back to the jails an not for an extended period of time, but at least to give the sheriff an opportunity to, increase the staffing levels,

the other is to increase the investment by the city and county into recruitment efforts of the deputy sheriffs or the sheriff's department, ly, the sn francisco sheriff's odedicated l time recruiting, while, the san francisco police department has 12, individuals wh are exclusively dedicated to recruitment.eputy sheriff's association association also recommended, somear incentives, by having new deputies start at step two as opposed to step also, they could consider coordinating theirh the police department and do ai, help with relocation expenses, possibly, we saw another problem is that they need to speed up

the h the sheriff's department has an insufficient individuals, of background staff, investigators to process applicants. so currently they have nine full time and two part time backgroun investigators. but there were occasions where those background investigators were redeployed because ofrsffio those, so the work thathey should have been doing, doing background investigations that had to stop so that they could be a backfill, fothe understaffing with the jail. and so we recommended that they consider outsourcing their background, investigations by either, giving handing over the background investigations to the department human resources, san francisco's department of human resources,

consider outsourcing the background investigations. so, for example, san sheriff's , outsource, their backgroundsgn investigators. so they have six full time deputy sheriffs doing backgrounds and then they have 15ls that they've outsourced doing their backgrounds. and so th another, way to speed up the hiring process, but, you know, at the end of the day, they need an increased budget to add individuals to their recruitntwr operation in terms , the programing that occurs inside of the jail. and we found that, they're also needs to be some budget increases to improve pretrial division services, diversion services as, to add more case managers to the pretrial diversion services, of

course, jail ha health because of the change in the population with the inmates, there needs to be more behiorall with, you know, tho going through detox, mental health issues, but alsoee and discharge, and, finally, to upgrade the technology, toil y to better monitor the jails with less manpower. so that was our assessment to the board of supervisors, we also contitoh cd organizations. so we met with the jaijustice coalition. we're trying to meet with them once aecause they're very involved with the inmates. and so we, met with them atwe ao found that they are able to provide,

assistance with the a of, of real time what's going on with the inmates, so that that there we attended their meeting and, and got some pretty good feedback from them, we0> schwarn hurst, sonny sonny schwartz was was the program director of the jail under, sheriff's mike hennessy and vicki hennessy, their administration's eileen hurst was, a, upper ge the sheriff's department during that era, they were absolutely, a wealth of knowledge in terms of really looking at the operation pre-covid. and, sonny schwartz wasjust had all kinds of information on the programing that we were able to get a real good look at what the pam,

in past years, compared to what it looks like today. and eileen hurst was justabove just such an in-depth history, lyrical perspective of the sheriff's department. so i find that they those two will continue to be really, really stronges, that, you know, as we deal with, with and face problems that we have to assess, they're great resources to of get an idea of how these issues were dealt with in the past, we also civilian oversight alliance conference tha by the department of police accountability here in san fransc. so, it was a great conference. i was one of the panelists, along with the naco director of policefennell and accountability, hansel aguilar. and we focused on and had a

conversation about racial equity in police oversight. and the importance of racial equitylices very valuable. program that we participate in that day. and i want to thank president sue and board who both attended and engaged in the discus abo these issues. and so it was really, really a valuable, program to participate in. and then i'll end by saying that, unfortunate. early on may 2 we had a death in custody, while the inmate was constructively in the sheriff's department's custody, he was actually under the care of doctors in zuckerberg general hospital. so he died at the hospital, and, hl conditions, and i can't publicly

comment any further on that investigation, but we're continuing to follow the investigationte that within 20 minutes of his passing, we were notified by the sheriff's department of this incident, which bodes well for, that kind omming on between the inspector general and the sheriff's department. thank you. thank you, do we have any questions or comments from members? member. okay. thank you , mr. wiley. it was really i really appreciate thete. it was a very thorough lay of the land of all the things that are going on, a few questions lockdowns. did they mention how long the length of the lockdowns is and how often it occurs? yeah weekly basis, monthly basis that that was well, it it varies

because it's really incident. you know, if there's an incident that creates the lockdown speci, although we di hear that there were daily lockdowns at 11 a.m. or 11. yeah,1 a. but i wasn't we weren't ableaily lockdown at 11 a.m, like, that a lockdown. and wer lockdown to be. you can't leave your cell. you can't even groom and shower. your cell, now, we did find that the april 12th through the 18th was a six day lockdown. an so. so, which is pretty lengthy. six days of no programing, you know? and so we're, trying to figure out t

long and, and, and april 28th through may 1st was a four day lockdown. and so thoseut i will say this, that the assaults on the deputies were serious assaults and did require some investigation by the sheriff, and, why so long. okay. i mean, i'm going to ask either from your team or the sheriff's department f a number, okay? because i want to know in context of how often that happens. and i know you mentioned, that there is a difference between long term clients versus short term clients, term clients being that there was a finding that there were proy more serious cases. i do remember an angela chan from, the public defender's office, that she mentioned that a lot of these cases are like, are also attributed tohe bklog of court cases that does contribute

to it. so part of it isu with ce system slowed and these cases were not being adjudicated. but what we'lly what we're seeing today is that because of bail reform, individuals that probably three years ago would be kept in custody are now being released. and so the result is the ma the individuals that we've seen in custody are there for the mriouand violent offenses. yeah. okay. that's good to know. okay and then i know, you know, i mentioned ts before and i agree that the understaffed is a huge issue for everyone is and i just wanted to monk that in pere belief that we alsod parallel path to bring that jail client population down. and whether it's like looking at the population that has less serious

crimes or like, i don't know, missing minors to kind of help them to get out of the system, because i think it attributes to the overcrowding issue. you spoke about the understaffing ■& backlog of cases. if we help bring that client population down, it'in help everyone. right. and then, i also know, i know you mentioned the deputies, the shortage when you work. when thy were comparing, i don't know if that ning from you or from the sheriff's department, but what is that compared to? like you mentioned, 20 and 19, 48, under staffing, 2020 grew to 7621 to 2024, 175. what's t benchmark? well, first of all, these numbers were provided to board of supervisors by the deputy sheriff's associa. the numbers appear to us to be consistent with what we also were finding, now, we did not have the month of the year by

year breakdown like they, they had. but, we're we're seeing this pretty consistent, increase in the number of, of deputies that the sheriff'sep wn and it's, and it's attributed to a combination oft, there are individuals that are just up for retirement, and but ther individuals who are choosing to leave. right, because of the, a lifestyle. i don't know if lifestyle is the right word, but, that, you know, it's a stressful environment. totally. and then even, like, working overtime, nobody wantste stressed out. so i, i understand i guess tryg to understand, like what is it comparing it to. is it like: tot

we're not reallypa it to u lo atg. we're looking atally , those years like 2007, 2 were fd seeing that the, the number of people that were leaving was far outpacing the number of new hires. and and from 2019, each year, that numberontinues to grow. now, it's a phenomenon that all departmentscr. so you o to pole department around the country and they are having a hard time filling the vace vas department is no different than than what's happening all over the countr is why so

many departments are investing in the recruitment, i mean, there's a department that was offering, new hires, 50,000, job, and so we're seeing the same thing happen with san francisco. i mean, they're really struggling tryingo find candidates. yeah i don't know if that ars, but, but, i mean, i, i guess i remember the sheriff's training that they were speaking to that about the likeote like f is going to be retired out. yes. hiis going to become a bigger problem. and i agree i understand the like the severity of this issue. right. like it impacts the jail population as well. yeah. i mean there's got to be a bigger investment in the recruitment. and time deputy is that that that's aknoe recruiting. thank you. any other questions or comments from. i

have a few myself. palmer. what constitutes an assault that requires a lockdown? well i mean i think that when a inmate assaults a deputy and the, the deputy is, needs assistanceassaw that the sheriff had a press photos of the results of some of the assaults and one one assault, for example, the inmate knocked the deputy, down, and he fell flat down on t cement and had a softball type not on the back of his hea, so that was a serious assault in another in another deputy, the inmate did m, through his uniform and

broke the skin through the uniform. so it was a very serious bite, i mean,se would be typical of what we would consider a serious assault. and i don't want to minimize assaulting, law enforcement personnel, becausetd i didn't want tthin that what te movies and on tv, where people are gettin and killed. so i wanted to differentiate reality and fictiond sof these are the, the of assaults where they're getting beat bit or pushed down, that seems to be again, i'm not minimizing assault, but that seems to be a clear cut investigationthis person pushed this guy down, or this person got bit by this person, so that wouldn't require a six day lockdown, right? that's what we're trying to get to the

bottom of. okay that, i think that that is the big question is that why does the jail have to be shut down for six days? and why? well, that that is, that's that's a question. yeah. so, so far in your reports, we haven't heard of any assaults to where a deputy got stabbed or choked out or his life, like, directly was danger, not that we're aware of. no. okay are the assaults, the assailants, are they mentally ill or detoxing? are is there any evidence that shows that they may be a part of, street organizations, we don't have that specific informationic individual assaults. and on the

individuals tt committed the assaults that that's, that's still part of an ongoing investigation. and also, can i just quickly jump in there? also, we should tread lightly on talking about the details, because it's still an open questions. i don't thinkthere'i that the inspector general can answer because it's ongoing, and especially if it's personal information about the inmate. so i just wanted to know i just want that f right. and that's why i just wanted to characterize what things are, because peop what we do for a living are experienced in our personal lives. may their may run like, oh my god, the deputy is in there gettingilled and we just want to make sure if they are, we want that action to be taken, to, to avoid that and to prosecute that, another question is the units becse the jail there are certain categories of people that are housed together. so, some arelee

housed together. some people who are murderers are very violent or house together. and then there are low level offenders that are housed together torthes that are not involved in any of the assaults that are taking place, how are they treated and are they put on lockdown as a, as a i don't want to say retaliation or just safety, but are th the, the onother individual has donene, the major complaints by inmates that we spoke with. right. because they called me they called me to complain about that. so i wanted to just put on those who have reached out and said that, hey, we're not doing anything. why on lockdown, so there was a report that there was in front of cj two, and it was reported that the jail went on lockdown because of it. that was relayed

byeo was a resident in the jail. so i don't know if that's the reason why it was on lockdown. so was the outcome of the engagement with the protesting citizens, that there complaints be heard? and what was their complaint? yeah, i, i have no information that the jail was ever lockow of a protee jail. okay. and i have just two more questions. i know i'm taking them a while, but just, one solution that i like to offer for the reduction of the jail population yes, i too, am a part of the san francisco jail justice coalition. and o that we suggested, especially for probation and parole matters , because they can get filled up with people being violated and just flashes where they're just being investigated are -they be sent back to prison, maybe asking the city look into secure transitional housing facilities

where these people can be diverted from our county resources, since it is a state, probationpa a state facility, or agency, maybe we can cre sece, transitional housing facilities where those make ace there. and my last statement are as far as staffing. i think that staffing, based on what you hav sed on the word on the street, is the popularity of being in lat, ew foecially during the social justice movements that have been taking place, have giving law enforcement a bad rap in general, that be etty much, you know, agreed upon, so i thinkecessary that all of us, including this board, ves to promote what is going good in law enforcement. the changes that have occurred, that people concerns are being and

not just falling on deaf ears je people who had marched in protest for so many years, especially after george floyd so on and so forth, that mong forward with our law enforcement. and that way, id g, desire to become law enforcement and to, to help with that popularity. well, you know it. i'll justddhis one little piece, mr. palmer, along those lain you said, there's also two things we found. w, since the inception of the inspector general's office, we have seen the number of reportedssaus, by deputies dropped by at least 50. so we're seeing fewer reports of complain against

deputies. and what we also found , in our evaluations was that the sheriff's department has gone a very long way in terms of using de-escalation type approaches in managing t, so those were all very, very positives, positive developments that we saw. so, member palmer, i recall that at, had mentionedt you, understood that there wasie with the sheriff's office, particularly in custody services and that's consistent with a news article that came out where someonestodis going to be transferred to another facility, he was happy. onbo bee underlying population now more serious people who are have mental illness. all and drug issues. so i think that

that's very attributable to, community input, the kind of reforms that have been put in■eo encourage that. and i alsohink that recruitment is for all of us to dohis is a beautiful city. we want to maintain a beautiful city. and that means that all of us, do the work that makes it positive. that's why we are all sitting here, as essentially volunteers to help, you know, make the city a better city, if others don't have meer wechter yes, i have akay. number of questions about this and some other things. okay. ll, thank you for doing such a comprehensive review of this complex issue. i re a the fact that you met with miss hurst and perspective, because a having lived through the, michael hennessey years, which saw drat in the sheriff's department that make it one of the most progressive

in the country, i really appreciate the fact that you talkedit them to get that important historical perspective. y mentioned that you recommended redeploying the staff. that's currently assigned to patro duties. how many deputies potentially could be shifted on a, let's say, a emergency basis to relieve some of this mandatory overtime? how many of those who are on patrol could be shifted to the jail? well, that's another thing we're trying to figureecau there are 130 that are eligible for redeployment, but there's not 130 being deployed at time.s different divisions and not just the jail, but the, the core missione shiff's department is the management of the jail, so we feel that if there is any redeployment that that's where the priorities should be. so do you have a

sense ofday, how many deputies are assigned to patrol? could instead be at the jail helping to relieve this drastic reliance on overtime? those those were some of the questions that came out of the board of supervisors meeting that, we have requested, the use th information been provided yet? not yet. okay and then you also mentioned us speeding up the hiring process heard mr. lambda talk about baground investigations. is there a sense of background investigation takes, given the staff the sheriff's department hassu how long it would take if they outsource this? as san mateo county does, and what the cost for outsourcing would be for e i asi

understand it, the outsourcing would be no more expensive than paying the salary of a off a the would they would the sheriff's department needs is additional funding, so thatytheo do the background background investigatio or outsource the investigations, but but i think that, for example, san mateo sheriff is outsourcing it because they've got manpower issues. and in order to fill backgrounds donesues, you've to get the candidates. and right now, i think that that's where the sheriff'stmt's hiring process is lacking, because you can go they've got to go through the backgrounds and that are able to, as fast as ss get their candidates

through the backgrounds. they canm, hire them before somebody else can hire them, because most of these candidates are in were san francisco's in competitive situations with other departments. okay. and then could you give us an update on the status of your budget request? the mayor recentlyerudl be making our budget presentation on june 14th board of supervisors. okay. can you brief us on what the status is? well, the mayor has basically cut the, inspector dinot provide us with a budget. okay.■z is looking at te budget, from the mayor's, budget. it shows they are th correct? yes, but that's nothat's not completely

accurate because there was a, there was a mistake when the numbers were submitted and they pu my position and dance positions in the wrong places. and so the came out a little different. but at the end of the day, when you look at where all the numbers are supposed to be, their funding, thig dan lang's position fort so the mayor's budget, if i'm correct, is only fundingositn yours and dan's. yes. no. support staff, no investigators, no ane, no auditors. is that correct?n o would you be able to fulfill your charter mandated mission, well, that'll be difficult. so so i'm not clear how the charter mandates that there be one investigator in y office for every 100 deputies. how can the mayor not provide the funding when the

charter says it must be provided? well, i'm. i'm honestly not going to get into the politics of ec the inspector general, i'm that can conduct propery oversight of the sheriff's department and, and, you know, the charter, requires, that we r 100 deputies, we anticipated that this was going to be a tough budget y. so we, we et that, strategically, would allow the city and county to phase in our agency. so so instead of asking for all the investigators all at , we asked for, funding for, i beli was three

investigators and, and so it was a really i think our total budget came out to 2.5 million, that would at least get us some administra support investigators and a, one attorney. and that would allow us to theround. and was your request for the attorney was that for an 81, 81 assistant chierney? yes and normally an assistant chief attorneyup, an entire division. the public defender's office has, 4 or 5 of them, each of them supervising a division. yeah but what given what we have to do, kn an agency that's just getting off the ground. you're, basically setting out an agency that's really existing, when you look at what that with that particular lawyer does, that's an that's in an existing agency.

we're not in existing agency. 'r build an agency. okay as someone who worked estah oversight, right. i'm really shocked and outraged that you're not getting funding for the necessary positions of investigators, auditors and support staff. i think that's essential. the voters vy clearly stated they wanted an office of inspector general do independent investigations, systemic evaluations, audits of the sheriff's department. they did not want the department of police to do it. so i'm surprised ts no been more in the public consciousness, more in the press , because it seems to be saying we're going to ignore the charter now. now, i do support your your hiring of staff. i do not support the hiring of an 8181 assistant chief attorney. this is sort of going beyond just the inspector general's . so i'd like to focus. i think i think i think thishis is critical for the entire

operation of his office over the nextve been following we've been following his budget presentations and w bee speaking with supervisors. so if you'd like to, you know, continue that, ido contact the supervisors and the mayor's office. i intend to and as i say, i will very strongly. i think i wanted to correct you thatouhe voters did not intend for the department of police accountability to alsothisi just clear to the public there is a letter of agreement, and that vh in on whether or not the department of police accountability should or should not be doing the job. so i don't want to disparage the department of police accountability because they have been doing a good job. they've won awards both for their auditing as well, right now, what what the inspector 3 not only handling those complaints, but also what's with the shif office. so it also continues to burden the sheriff's office when the ec review particular complaints with independent investigators.

correct? i understand, but the charter did say the inspector general would investigate all complaints right now. dpa is investigating a certainon o complaints. certain number the charter said oig would investigate all complaints. right. but you're making but you're making a on ds silent in that charter amendmen-t. sdo want to inject particular things or make it appearhaaragg the department of police accountability. no, but the mayor's current budget seems to intend to fund dpa to do the duties of the inspector general, rather than fundin the inspector general to perform those. right now, the mayor has askedo investigators. so, and right now there are invtigators that currently handle sheriff's complaints. so that isow, we'reg that it changes because the office of inspector general should be independent and separate. but going into this, weat there would be a period of long period of

transition, 1 to 2 years. i mean, ideally it would have been one year if it were the kind of staffing that we were looking at, but it starting a bnd new agency and also doing the hiring. we never expected it to ben shrift that we would actually get the whole instigators. so, we appreciate the transition time because we don't want to miss any of the complaints and we don't want to miss sdlin. well, not funding for the next fiscal year won't even allow them to star process. it doesn't take this long in other agencies that have been newly esis people in the oversight community can testify to that, but notivg you anybody doesn't even let you start the process of recruitment, think is very necessary. and essentially saying that the ig won't even be operational investigating complaints for over a year, whsoever. so i'm veryy disturbed by by this budget. ani

think everyone who supported creation of sheriff's oversight shou be very concerned and outraged by this. i did one of the questions your newsletter said that you made a trip to washington, dc, i did. can you tell us more about that? yes, so th day on the hill, where you are given an opportunity to meet with your local, legislators and, anmy pup was to go back and, make aco wil legislators. so, for example, i, i, got all of the information of, miss pelosi'sor and, barbars legislative director, congressman eric swalwell, although he's not in san francisco, is, a good friend.

and so it was an opportunity to speak with his office, but out and find, get moree was to information about, any grant funding ailable to the inspector general's office, and things of that nature. and so it was it was very, very good , and just and just also connecting with, the, the legislators and, and a big surprise is we thought we were just going to go to the capitol and, anth day before the meeting started, we were told we were starting off house. and so we met with, a lot of the whiteaff, i, it was a great trip. who sponsoreat, the national bar association sponsored the day on

the hill. and what they did is, because i'm a member of the national bar association, they set up the trip and, set up the ith l of the legislators. and so we were able to go into the back halls of congress and meet with a lo congressional staffers and who could not have been nicer. did did the national bar association pay for it, noca going on behalf of san francisco. soan fncisco paid focused on civilian oversight, the purpose of the trip was to go and talkknow, i'm, i'm in a in the stage of trying to get anf the ■vground, and in terms of, of funding, you know, i'm looking at grant funding. i'm looking at all areas ofearl

that's going to be important to. and coming from a background and, with the district attorney's office, many of those offices operate by not only government funding, t grant funding and federal grant funding. and sock there to find out what kinds of grant funding programs are available for agencies like the inspector general and who else s francisco went on that trip? no one. oh, okay. okay in the future, you might want to check in with folks at who have gotten a grant from the us department of justice to do d they may be able to give some infoiorants that are available. and i think oversight works best when it works cohesively and together. and, you know, there's a lot of knowledge there. and there's a very good long standing oversight agency in washington, dc with personnel who who have worked for the federal government, who probly

could contribute to that effort. yeah. no, i sit down with, anthony fennel, the president of naco, and we had a long and, possible opportunities for to funding and that it is about personal relationships. i think, vice president carrion can also attest it's really and the diffr associations that have reallythe federal government. so it really is important for you to be present there and make the best. and i really appreciate fact that you're thinking outside of the box and that you'reki a very broad range of support. i think that's beneficial many wam also bothered, disturbed, disappointed to be frank, that we haven't gotten the funding wo right, but you know what? our ancestors have fought through it. we will fight get to the place that weand we

need to get. so i appreciate all of the work that you and team is doing. and it's unfortunate that in, in essence, not it's not that you were not funded. it's, it's you're kind of being because now you're taking away a position that y currently have. right? because if it's only going to be for you to you currently have three people. so instead of giving you money, you' een taken. it's been taken from you. so that that tod concerning because i think it's a pretty magnificent, and, you knowast prosecutor myself and an attorney for 15 years and beingl the different leadership positions, the work that it takes to do this kind ofaileanalysis and to learn from the mistakesds not a two person job. no, it simply isn't, and we live in a very complex city with a lot of

resources. so to see that the fe people who come here to do business, the people who live here, the people that build their families and, you know, their their communities here are not being adequately, listened to, right■ mean, this went for the vote. this this is the people's decision, and here we. here we are after all of the wo that is done to then actually be put in a deficit is incredibly problematic. and i ask all community, too tohat board of supervisors meeting because this is ift toe safe, if you want inmates and different clients to be treated with respect, then in o needs to show up and each of us

needs to be able to say, this is ow, holistic question as also, well. we've talked for years and years of supervisors has talked years and years about forensic auditing. and itot words, because we had the auditor come speak at the last meeting of w entails an official audit. and we see a lot of waste i, which is very disappointing. and youmu further questions about behavioral health, about the should not be coming out directly from the sheriff's office. and th jails are not necessarily appropriate place to have those services. and there's an overall shortage of staff and the management. so but i'm going to go to member nguyen to see if he any questions or comments. and then to you, vice president karen. and then down you for all the work you're doing. it sounds like you're really busy out there and i am showing up to multiple meetings going to washington and it's, it's admirable. thank you for

that. right and thank you, member. when for going through extra training and getting your toe certificate. so that's that's a whole nother thing. i mean, to demonstrate that there m career advancement within the sheriff's office, ieral in the recruitmen. thank you, vice president karen. nothing further. thank you. member buckner. no. thank you, and i definitely echo my colleagues. thank you for all that you've done, you know, thus far. and, you know, this is just the beginning. we got a long ways to go. i think one of the things that i did want to ask, i think that would be helpful for all boardembers. and i also think for the ig is if we could work on soor of a template through the chair, in terms of information that we get from the ig, i t i it could be a little rough and tough when we're ripping off questions thao necessarily be able to answer. and i also think it would help us i formulating information that's going to be shared with members of the public. that'snge

i would like to hear more of the statistics and highlights around how we've alr to make impact, with the shortage and under resources that we currently have, i just think about how, to continue to show the work that we're doing with the limited resour with the limited manpower. this is what we're able to do. we cankc do re, should be doing more in the charter has called for us to do more. si'm in total agreeance with everyone there. i did just want to state for the record, i was a little weary when i start thinking about how changing up, the recruitment process, just thinking about as an employer, not hiring people f of hiring people or deputies, but actually the right deputies and the right people, bause that also can alter the work that we're doing. if we're really just lookingve bodies, on the department could actually cause more detriment and more trauma and more harm to what it is thatredo. so i just t

those two things out there and also apologize for all is a high pollen count and, yeah, it's one of those days quick question. who wrote the description of the department that's in theayor's budget book? was that the mayor's office, yeah, i have to. i don't know exactly what you're, on page 297, 298 of the mayor's budget. i don't have it in front of me. i have to look at that tot it, and. yeah, if you if you could let me know. i'm6qe some of the text sa little strange. okay. yeah, i'll let you know, i guess, we had been talking about templates, of favorite words. and so i, i've been trying to not call the inspector general at seven at night or even ten at night, and we've had lots ofnvertions.g on templates and also for theshe have, consistent reporting. and this also gives an indication rt we have the cfo that we need so thatkinds of

we don't take up moretaff time to call numbers, you know, and so and we want toe coistent so people aren't guessing on particular reports, so i wanted to just drill down a little bit on, bail reform. and just for the record, i am an attorney. the department of insurance bail is a form of insurance. so heard so much that bail was an unregulated industry. just want to under the 1937 bail bonds act, the department of insurance regulates bail agents. and although there isn't a whole lot of bail now. so you see a lot of the businesses kind f. buas a consequence, the bad part is there are tse fly by night organizations, pretending to be nonprofits, acting as bail agents. and that is unlawful. to put that out there and actually, taking money and notctually bailing a person out. so that's disturbing. so i, i just want a

little bit more clarification on that, because with bail reform, you're saying that the people who would have been previously heldre being released, but and then you're left with the more serious crimes, but then wouldn't that have caused even more of a higher jail population. well, so what what i'm saying is that, yes, it it did cause a higher jail population, but it caused apo eo manage and it's, even though there a, lower numbers than in the past, although there's been a significant increase in san francisco because of the ramp up of putting more police on the street and making more arrests, but those those individuals, that were in jail, in the past, it it made it the, the

pes of individuals that were in custody were a more mean by that is somebody, and who committed ay, f example, might still be for bail reform, might still be in ba reform, a lot of these individuals are now being let out and the only ones that are being left in custody are the ones that are committing the robberies, the carjackings, the, the felonies. we still would have had those that population and it's they still would have been in there. but it, it it makes for a different population when they're the majority that u saying that if, if therehe lesse unquote lesser,ere committed by certain individuals , that it would have evened out the population, ion't know. no. what i, what we're saying is that now, now you have, and i

think you ve to really look, everyone speaks about the article that the one ie, and thn individual who's been in a for n years in san francisco, and he wrote an clhich he said that today, it's a much more difficult to do time in, because because of the types of individuals that are in there now, in general population, you have more individuals who are issues, and although they have a wing that deals wi tho individuals who have mental health issues, you still have individuals that may not be housed in the mental health is b some instability, some mental instability, and bei housed in general population. and so it makes it just a much more difficult place to do time in, which is why you had the one in the gentleman

name was jerry wilson wrote the article that he would rather go to state prison than stay in the san fnc, county jail. and a lot of it hasdoith the population that's currently, the configurationre. and i think it was sort of a balance, a because he does enjoy the more positive environment of the sheriff's deputies. so as he's moving, he's expecting a better population, but he's unsure of how the pu will be treating him in a new facility, so the other thin terms of budget, maybe we can get a little bit more , we the city doesn't have or has a shortage of the health facilities, the substance abuse facilities, so money is unused. if that money is unused, that should go the inspector general's office as

well as theri■- are monitoring those particular situations, so let's do a little hunting and line by line. i'm all game. i'm game for it wherever we can get some funding, and, and you know, and also advocate for zero based budgeting because unfortunately, the way government budgeting works is the biggerney you havee more powerful you appear to be.e it. and, we have been very lean and mean, mh to our detriment, to be churning all this informationand en i've purposely set out an agenda where we're actually getting raindig as members, because we don't even have a budget for 80 hours of training that we want. we had 20 hours compressed from the get go, and i think we all really benefit from the training. and not to disparage the police commission, but they're not required to go througy ng, ich is a little bit shocking when you are creating policy and inow

member bruckner was an esteemed member of the police commission, but i think it m difference when we have training and we and we when we are checking inion and to demonstrate that we are trying to understand their position because our oversight is not just about the also theted population and the well-being, the physical and mental well-being of our deputies and the working conditio, i also wanted to just point out to the public, we knew this from training, and we kind of take it for granted, sheriff's deputies in the jails are not, they don't have weapons. so theirest tool is actually their voice. how to de-escalate. unless you de-escalate population, you know, any kind of arguments before they escalate. ao of the benefits of them being in patrol in the tenderloin, thatmt they're able to talk to the indivis, because some of these people have been incarcerated bore. so they're

kind of known entities, whereas they might not have a relationship with police officer. they'd rather talk to a sher and sometimes that can avoid, a more serious issue or, you know, even an arrest if someone is compliant. so i just wanted to make it clear to the public, people are thinking, well, why are these deputies being assaulted? and why can't they defend themselves? and they really, that is like the absolute last resort, but they do not have weapons with them when they're in the jails. and in fact, any of the deputies who are visiting the jails have to check in their weapons before they enter the jails. so to i te going to have more regular visits amongi kn because we were all so busy, it was a little bit difficultlear o that more, and then, so and then al member palmer, i'd like to makethate hear more from the jail justice coalition on, and i really appreciate the

families also having come in february to talk about the effectsf the lockdowns, i personally signed up on the ts what kind of information i would get ahead of time, notifications if was■@ a lockdown and if there was a visit interrupted. so i think the notices have gout efficiently, we're also looking at possible text messages. we understand a lot of families live, you know, two, two hour drive away. so it's a it's, you know, disappointing to say the least. as they're on the road and then they get a lockdown message. so thank you so much for that, and so witht ing to open it to public comment. thank you, madam president. and tord, vice president carrion is present and arrived after the call. t roll we have a full board for members of the public who would like to make the public comment on line. item two, inspector general, report. please approach the podium when it is free. we have no public comment. thank you. let's move

on to the next agenda item. calling line item three. san francisco sheriff's office presenon infmational item patrick lerm, chief financial officer for the san francisco sheriff's office, will present on sfsu budget and priorities. thank you for being here, and lc afternoon, inspector general wiley, president sue, vice presi. commf the public. my name is patrick leung. i'm the chief financial officer for the police. our sheriff's office. today, i will be how much? how the difference is how the police department got more moneythe st pleasant changes. the commission meetings star 2 here versus 530 for the police, today i will be presenting our information technology nds pull up the. thank you. first, i want

to begin by saying that the sheriff's office. we're still a very heavy, heavilyaper based organization, one example of that is our time sheets, we don't have any electronic system. there isn't anything payroll. we do it the old school way, pen and paper. and that does cause some inefficiencies. but at the same very cheap way of doing business at the expense of aitional staff time, what i'm going to present today to gain al efficiencies. and that in turn, will help us alleviate some of the, at least reduce some of the staffing shortfalls that w increasing, some of the, increasing the efficiency of the work that we're able to do. so

some of the information technology priority projects that w the first one on our list is the new jail management system. we started this several years ago, and we're beginning the second item is hiring professional staff to replace some of the sworn personnel that uns. the next one that we have is replacing our aging networking inf and hardware, next in line is also the funding for a national incident based reporting system, compliant system, record management system. and then the last category is the expansion s . i want to start out with our jms project, the jail management system. we started this project a couple years ago, and we've so far we've completed phase one.

phase one includes analyzing our ne documenting the functional requirements. it's, simulating the functional r of the test environment and then also defining the scope of work for phase two. and there'srtsf s analysis requirements, all of e shifting from the old system into the new system, some of the interface analysis to work with all the other subsystems that exist throughout the city. and also within our department,nd then also the training framework and training plan, since we're going into ate, it's going to be a very different process than what deputies are used to. and so a lot of that having a successful implemeat adequate td have some delays because the old vendor for the jms was acquired by new company and it took

almost aize assignment agreement that i am happy to say that that has been completed, and we expect phase two of this project to commence in the fall of 2024. in this next slide, what what it's shown here is some of the workflows that, and the project timeline two will rely a lot of the upon the coordination. and, what's important to is that as we progress through each period,ore multiple tasks that are being worked on simultaneously, and a lot of the success will require not just coordinationf all the different functional teams, but it also requires some additional staff suppt as we implement our new jail management system, we have to understand that we don't stopur d to day

operations. and this project is just work in wt we're currently doing. so with the new jms, it doe additional resources and some of which i'll get into iides. but e represents the our timeline for phase two in our jms project. our information technology support services. we do need some additional itaff in order a successful jms implemeat implementation, but also to have successful implementations on some o the other it projects that we want to have funding for. and we also want to successfully implement. so somtl information and technology support services unit. it' responsible for all of the information technology and neede sheriff's office. some of the functional needs includes

compliance to cal d.o.j. standards for criminal and custody, mataining all the data reports and dashboards, maintaining our physical networkingcture, support our electronic, mobile, mobile devices, and also our computers, and also providing help desk support for end users. currently, our staff is a mix of prsi staff. i will say that after i've joined the sheriff's offic seen three deputies and sergeants be transferred out of the it's unit, and] they've been transferred back to custody division throughouttime, i haven't seen any we haven't hired any additional staff. and what that meansere's a significant gap, capacity gap on what services are its unit is able to provide, with the eme s and with the reduced staffing. and it's that has had operational

impacts to the sheriff's office. i haven't seen an it unit shut down in any department that i've been in at department, human services, emergency management, i've seen it pretty regularly that at the sheriff's office, the it's unit has down, because of staffing availability. and when that happens, you're a user and you need your password if yr issues, you just have to wait. which which is glaring to me because we're not an 8 to 5 department. we operate 24 over seven, and having an it■m that shuts down sometimes days at a time, and lot of that is controlled. or the cause of that is really because of the lack of

staffing, both in terms of not havingh professional staff, but also in terms of not having enough deputies. and in years past, we've had el upon deputies to fill some of the professional staff positions. that has the potentia to be civilianized. but at the same time, we don't have of the budgetary support to enable that. d what we've seen in more recent years is that because ofnificant shortage in our sworn staffing, that we have no choice but to transfer out deputies back into other units at the expense of operation. the ourperations from some of the supportive units, especially our it unit. one of the things that we also need support on is our networking infrastructure. the city has adopted a environment, and some of the

some of this requires adequattue transition to a new jms when we adopt a nibrs compliant ms. it will require some infrastructure upgrades in order to help us utilize some of the at we have hases and the reached the end of the product li the vendor no longer provides support. so we do risk. we do have a high risk of failure and some of the downstream impacts to operations is if the system goes down, it will req a significant staff in order to get the system up and running, but it will opef the system goes down for a extended period of time. and, i phize that we are a 24 over seven, facility or our department rather, and any

suspension to any of our supportive functions does havefe way that we can do business. and we did s have first hand experience with that, not with o d, but when the department of emergency management, when they open up the new call center, their system went wn and they did have backup plans with, yno fashioned pen and paper. but it did have a it did have aimpact on their operations. and that is something that we want to avoid. i did speak to on the last page. i did speak about our networking infrastructure upgrades, and the next topic i wto speak about is the record management system. several years ago, the fbi, they transitioned to theional incident based reporting ime reporting. in the past,iform

uniform crime reporting, the standard was based on summary reporting standard. what that meansy ty of incident, what the data that is only the most severe offense is recd, as part of the data set for each incid so if there's an incident that involves multiple offenses, you don't really get that full picture. all you really there t there is an incident involving a assaults, robberies, etc, you really only get that most severe offense as what occurred for that incident with the transition to the cyber standaro provide is it associates the it

gets rid of the old hierarchy as additional measurements, including where the crime takes it takes, the characteristics of victims and perpetrators, also all of the offense, information that's associated with that incident. one of the benefits not it not just having nibrs compliant, data. one of the benefits for the ms. is also avoiding double entry in some of our legacy systemse want to be able to avoid having to copy information from one system, toe of our operational, systems, just because of lack of interoperability. one last topic that i want to discuss is o pron

2017, the sheriff's office stard a pilot project to outfit deputies with body wra wd the program and at this point, we have contract authority to deploy 340 cameras. hove fundino deploy all 341 of the benefits fobo is that it helps support accountability and transparency. and thereas a study funded by the national institute of justice. they conducted a randomizedri, and randomized trial study at the los angeles metro police department and what they found was that officers at las ga pole body wornameras, had fewer use of force incidents, fewer complaints against their officers and the city was also

able to see reducedts to resolve, the use of force complaints■ . and so one of the benefits that we want to see is having all of our deputies outfitted with body worn cameras , one, to help improve our safety for our members, but also to help improve the accountability and transparency of the departmt.ing at, some otr opportunities forun, not just in our budget requests. there is grant program from the department of justice, the office of community oriented policing services. th have a body worn camera grant. that is one grant opportunity that we're exploring, and we intend to submit an application for, it does require a 50% local match.e trying to get gain support for. but it is a funng opportunity that we're exploring. so i've

discussed a lot offormion techny priorities. i do want to have touch backdget discussion and how it relates to what we a, and what some of our next steps are. i df our budgetary pressures. we've heard under many circumstances, occasions that we've experienced significant staffing shortages, not just on the sworn side, but also on our professional staff, i can say that during the last couple of years, we've also had many increase in the cost of doing businesses, business. rather, we've seen increases in the supplies in, cost of food to feed the jail population. and we've also seen, a significant pressure on our budget budget

deficit because of increased use of overtime. and that's attributednot st, the understaffed by, but also from, retirements. it's also from the, any type of incident that occurs that is not budgeted for, but it's like unforeseen circumstances. so the one thatir general wiley had reported out with the attack on deputies, that would be one, instance of cost that we've incurred that was not budgeted forwhence a, ae jails that also requires additional staffing. and the way that we're able to do that is through overtime. we do lack, a

significant number of deputies. and the only way that we can sts present time is through the use of mandatory oveim, in terms of the technology projects that i've, that i've en this presentation, the funding, the funding opportt we've looked at. first one is the court process, the committee on information technology cit has an annual process where each department submits their technology requests. and unfortunately, the department needs often exceed what's available, witht submission, we did request for $2.9 million for our jms project, we were able to receive $1.5 million in allocated funding through the court

process. and so at this point, we do have to kind of reshuffle some of the, some of what we're in that project. and, we are exploring other funding opportunities, not jt from grants, but also with working with the mayor's office, and tha lot of the technology projects, some of which, as i've described in the in the other slides with the body worn camera project and with some of the other projects, we are looking to, some grant opportunities, either from the at the fed levelal or private level, because we do recognize that we aree city is in a downturn and the unfortunately for budget dollars, it's limited. and we do want to be respectful of that. and i thank you for time. if there's any questions, i'd be more than happy to answer them.

thank you, do i have any questions or comments from members? welcome to a hard working team with little resources, member rector. which model body worn the. is the sheriff's office currently using? i don't know the specific model, but i do know that it's, the body worn camera is through axon or vendd do you know how old they are? they are a couple of years old, i know that one of one of the grant programs that we're looking at, the cops office grant, it doesllow for the expansion of the body worn ra and it also will allow for, replacement of existing cameras. so that's one of the things that we'kingtopplt as terms of the body worn camera grant from the, fromfedsw

programs or expansion of programs, hi than replacing existing hardware. but given what our programgiven the program that exists for us right now, we are looking foroprtunite expansion, because we do want to have body worn cameras for all of our deputies, and we alsoo rg cameras that we have. and you mentioned the cops program grant requires a 50% local match, but what would be the amount ofthatn the current budget allocation for that? so no, it do d upon whether or not we're we apply,or just the number of cameras that we have deployed or whether or not we're able to expand the program to the entire , sworn staff that we have in terms of the program, the grant will allow up to $2,000 of

funding per camera, so for the local match, check whether the 2000 is the total amount or whether it's tion but, if it's if 2000 is a limit at t lee $1,000 local match orf th 2000 represents the federal portion, then the total local match in that instance would be 2000, it is a scalable project. if, for instance, if we were to apply for 200 cameras, right, the local just be for that amount versus if we were to expand it for the whole entire, sworn staff, let's say it's 750 cameras. that's morean, but we are still in thearly phase of developing the grant application, and some of those number still have to be worked

out. and does the department use axon axons, cloud based storage service evidence.com so. and do you also use that for the, cctv cama footage within the jails, that i don't have ane that axon that that axon is the vendor for the closed circuit tv. do you know anything about the state of the technology of the cctv cameras, how old they are,he how those how that footage is stored? and, h long it's retained for that? i don't have any information on that. i, i will say that, for the security systems at the ja, that is another project that we're we were to find funding for. that is a significantly higher amount. and it isn't considered just an information technology project. it flows more a

capital project, because of all the physical cameras involved and some of the wiring, etc. that does, and it's not just the cameras, but also the, acces the doors and, with that type of project, it does require additional, funding for all the capital improvements, but in cut process is, i don't i'd have to, i'de find that information and get back to you on that. i believe. just so you, i do know that axon is not the vendor for cctv. they are completely separate and different. they only do the bwc thh . thank you. and you mentioned the nih study, and that it showed fewe uses of force. did it provide any information on what, assaults on deputies, that i don't recall,

but the study, it was tt was either 2017 or 2018. i can send you a copy of the report if you'd like. yes and he also mentioned reduced cost to resolve use of force complaints that that include, civil suits or judgments. from what i remember of the st it con there was a use of force or when there was a complaint against an officer■!e instigative time, to s w were merits to the complaint, that it was significantly less for those who were body worn cameras versus those without. so the savings, the potential savings from that study, that was a comparison, i don't knowth or not it was whether whether there was anyacn officers or deputies in that study or it's not■■

i can recall. okay. thank you very much. thank you. member nguyen, just just to add, yeah, i do agreehat when the system goes down, it could be very problematic. when inmates get released, they have to be updated in the system. so by, to do that, it could go way past their their time off, and it could go into overtime. and also when the deputy is trying to cite somebody out for a ticket, they have to log into for registration information for the for the ticket. and if the syst goes down, that could be extremely problematic as well. and theny ve to do additional steps to contact dispatch. and it's very problematic to get that information through the radio. whereas if they were to mdt, it, a lot quicker, a lot moremplesoo need more funding for that. i think you had also mentioned at one time, and this was a pilot program, the report writing, and

i know it's always kind of an avalanche what takes priority. but you had mentioned there was a pilot program for more efficient repwr the deputies, but that was just a very old system where we're doing reports on pdf format and to open like several pdfs and, the pdacraes sometimes because, because the way the system is des so, you know, like, maybe we could, update to like, a salesforce system where, we can streamline that process. so again, like the additional funding, is the solution to the for updated report writing system, one of the areaa the ms. system. so the san francisco police department right now, they're currently implementing their ms. and we do have somee schedule some conversations with

their, their it staff and theirm that they will implement, the benefit of an ms. is thatt does include a module for the report writing and at least conceptually, if we're able to adopt the same system that that will also gain some efficiencies on not having to do doubl , that some of the data that they would enter wld populate, into carry over into our system ando jms system that we would adopt and that are at least, have some staff savings because there's less time for people to have to do data entry, vice president, carry on. jus a comment. when you said that, as somebody who is constantly forgetting user names and passwords, i cannot imagine working in anen you wout have to sit and wait to be able

to do your job, that sounds absolutely absurd, thank you for the work that you're doing. i fortunate to hear this report because it seems very dire. it at least from my perspectivems f being writing in paper and all of thoseve oks like you're you're alsout it game, to use the inspector general wiley's word, so thank you for the work that you're doing. and i appreciate the thorough and presentation. member brichter know, i think there just seems to be a consistent theme here of resources and the reports together and funding. but but i also, you know, enjoyed hearing from member nguyen, thou a well too. hopefully we're also trying to think outside the box. i mean, being in a city like san francisco where we have access to technology companies that are global, for them to also be able to help potentially chip in and help us with our so that we can, you know, continue to

maintain and run our city much better, you for the comprehensive. oh, actually, let me go to member palmer fir. grek you for being here. i appreciate the comprehensive report and ity knew when the it chief first came, iss i think the crucial part is really the testing period,au you have a hodgepodge of things and things that might be aging o or the vendors have just, you know, left and, and not offerioe computer systems are talking to each other because otherwise band-aids. and we definitely do not want a situation like the san francisco unifie district, where they spent millions and millions on, you know, a payroll just fle to go back to square one after spending millions guess the other thing is, is there a possibility of recruiting, civilian? it staff

from, say, city hall? i mean, we have a lot of it staff with within city hall that could actually bridge the gap right now. so in terms of it is a possibility. the although it's deenpon the department of technology, tech department on technology, what their availability, what their workload availability is on how many workers they have available, available. but i think for us, one of it for at least that it's somewhat a short term solution, because again, when in in order the long term health of the department, you w to have a stable workforce, right? if we implement a jms and we're relying upon the vendor or we're relying upon, det, those aren't our employees. the and project ends or once they're unavailable, they get

transferred, etc. we're stuck with a system that either wet ke don't know how to support. and so having, full time depart employees helps ensure the ng of us as a department, being able to sup t system. but it's also one of the, one of the barriers that we face is part of it is just the lack of funding to help support some of the hiring. we have used f as some of the stga the have recent retirees who've come back to help provide at least some relief, but they're limited to 960 hours in each year, and i believe we have two, two of those prop f's, hel out with our information technology needs. and it again, i think it

is somewhat of a just a stop gap solution, preferably we would want somebody that we can hire for the long term, because they're going to be the ones that az!fy us, once the system is up and also because when you're relying upon a you're relying upon, even another city department, that their needs can also change and also their priorities aren't necessarily the same as our department priorities. so with our staff, we ca deploy them to where we specifically need them, you know, and we're constantly having to wear different hats, putting out different fires, and if we have our own employees, we're able to do that more, effectively beus we can where we need, not just based on who might be available or what

they jusbe contracted to do. i agree with you. i mean, this is also the sbility of the workforce, but it also lends to succession planning too. if you don't ha the permanent employees, the more seasoned employees who you know are, say, five years o from retirement, don't have the opportunity to transfer skills to the newer hires, we just, you know, with our system for the iag, marshal kind did a fantastic joblots ofg the salesforce, dashboard, that waszjhe department of police accountability and sort of makingorin. and now it's usable for the ig, but it would be so much easier if you just had one system and the data there. so anytime i would ask chief jue if we could have a rept, by the way, we still need to work on a template, although, you kno that chief jue gave, really focused on the particulae wanted to just make it more official and consistent. b t

be able to just push a button or do some data searches and have a report spill out rather than calling different units and pulling out the paper, entering things, i think in the long run we'll save money. but so it's really incumbent on ale of san o actually talk about funding priorities. i know each supervisor also, they have town halls talkingrities, but it seee the sheriff's office is always left out.may because and remember, you'll have some perspective on this. the police. because having come from the police department, they seem t get a lot of funding. and even when we were looking at reports for domestic viole was so much easier because the justice system was implemented. and then er system 2.0 and the sheriff's office was still left withapd sohat's why once we formed as a board, we csistently push for more funding for the it systems, seec

comment for members of the publho would like to make public comment on line sheriff's office presentation. please approach the podium when it is free. pairs. we have no public comment. thank you. the next agenda item please calling line item for rescheduling july regular meeting discussion and possible action discussion and possible action oner to reschedule or cancel the july regular meeting. so colleagues, when we looked at this annual calendar from the get go, we decid to keep the particular dates, and july 5th falls on the fr right after july 4th. and so we thought was prudent to just solicit input to make sure quorum for our july meeting, and again, i'm going em everyone it's really a crucial time because we're talking about budget and resources. so i think

that, if we if we meet consistently and even if we don'ke summer break, which i'm advocating that we don't, thate more dollars for both the sheriff's so but justhe office of wanted to check to see ife were still available for july 5th or they wanted to re calendar for the week aft. so i have a question. i guess to me is, what is it that we would be doing in july■m 5 like, you know what i mean? like what what do you think is some of t pressing agenda items that would need to be, so if we go back tthe calendar that we had approved, so july is really all the different res, and then we also, although this would be oing,ffice, i think three of us and i was aboe president carrion, as well as member mango to do a jail visit co the inspector general. but also we're ramping up towards the fall■e we're going to

have more community engagement. so that's typically in, august. september would be national night out, and then in september we're going to have faith in blue, where we actua have some simulated training as well as presentations at county jail three. so i just thought it was important to meet. and then, if there are particular reports and any kind of updates that we could do on the budget, i thought it was justere. but, tye month that we would take off if we took off would be gust. but i'm just looking at july now, whether or not we want to meet july 5th or the 12th, some people stay in town anyway, s rh of a difference. i'm going to stay in town, but lik y know, sometimes it's nice to have a break, but i, i'm open okay, other people's schedules. i'll be out of town july 5th. okay. member brooke. are you. yeah. i'm okay. i'm good with 1 o you rather move

it to the 12th, then? okay. i it, but if there's anything i can do to help withg about bothd the 12th either.y. okay. and then same fifth and 12th. i'll be out.h to july 20th. okay. and then llr ty 4th weekend, so you'd rather have theh ife were able. are you okay for the 12th? vice versan or i probably will not be available on the okay, so. so, i mean, if we were to take a break, then we would not.woulbe typically august. so maybe we don't take a break in august and we do it in july. yeah. and that will give additional time for the sheriff's ce i think so. i think so, so, member kerry,

vice presiyoude k like to make the motion? yeah, sure. i move for us to,ce the july 2024 meeting, due to the unavailability of all of the members for quorum have a second? a second, any publ comments for members of the po uld like to forescheduling? july. regulartem meeting, please approach the podium when it is free. it appears there's no public comment. i think there was one. so can i jas? you're just canceling it. you're not moving it to july 12th, is that right? correct there. there are members who are also unavailable. july 12th. i just wanted to make sure that was clear. and we have a member of the public for comment . oh, okay. so i'll cl ll on the

july 5th meeting. member i mango is i member bruckner aye. bruckner is i vice president carrion i carry on is i member win i win is i member palmer i palmer is i president su i su is i member wechter i vector is i. there are seven eyes and no nose. the motions and is approved. thank you. the next agenda item please calling line item five future agenda items discussion and possibleem. doeso just kind of talk about the calendar items that we have up? so in, july we're going to have the reports. we can have the reports in august. in august wee topic of prosecutors and victim seat's all the more worthwhile now that the mayorctually increased the

victim services, particularly on sexual assaults and sexual harassment. and then in september, we werenall hoping to delve into policy. so looking at our use force policy. and i will also check in with ronnie singh, general counsel for the sheriff' , october, we're getting back to more reports, and then, november, december, i was i kept it open. so that would also soms or other burning topics, but otherwise we could actually revisit some of the topics that we looked at earlier in the year for follow up. i think what's important is, you know, oftentimes we bring in topics and then we don't have a follow up. and so i'm also ho t members of the public would also indicate if there's particular s to revisit or follow up. sounds like a good action plan. i'd

like to see a presentation. and this hadn d about a year and a half ago and was postponed on judgments and settlements from the sheriff's department for perhaps the past five ythat's something many counties in the state have been compiling and reporting on, and i think it would be useful for us to know that. okay, i will. but also i think that this also goes hand in hand. also with the board of supervisors, generalane it's pretty shocking when we're action. well you know, of what we want as a budgethert. as pagf settlements overall with the city. so tha t goes hand in hand with, with budgeting. so i think wt th citg us anonymized data about the total amount of settlements for things other than motor vehicle accidents. so i know, member wechter, would you fill out the form and submi t and then we will formally submit it

to okay. also, since we're going to do a performance evaluation of the inspector general probably by january, i t a sense of the best practices for the criteria. i'd like to i think we should hear from amrik singhsptor general for the state of california who conducts oversight of the california pri system. who's very knowledgeable and i think could provide so very useful information on how to look at that, how to start setting our criteria. great. any other okay. do we have public commentd like to make public comment on line item five futuregend items. please approach the podium when it is free. yeah. sorry. there's, appears to be no puic comment on that line.

chair, i apologize, i am going to be making a request on a possible future agenda item, but i'll wt nt. oh, this is this is the time for the time. yes okay. s, then i would appreciate, the, the opportunity for you all to have at a future meeting a discussion, under discussion possible action item requesting the tear gas ncppened at the san bruno jail, i'm from san bruno, but i'll speak a little bit further. more on under publicay. and i understand that that's still under investigation. so that's why wet coent on it today. so that's noted. so dan, next agenda item please. colleen line item six. general public comment. at this time, the public is welcome to address the board for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on this afterno agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the sheriff's

department oversight boa commenr sheriff's personnel nor any board members are requid to qu, but may provide a brief response if you would like to make public comment, approach the podium when it a reminder, you have two minutes to give public comment. thank you. good afternoon e. thank you so much. so my name is jennifer blanco. i'm a trustee for district one for san bruno park elementary school ri this incident happened in my district. and so here to ask. and to request to have this. so wheno, do know that there the investigations have not concluded yi totally understand that. but when it is, i am requesting that this come before this board, i just want to share with you a little bit more informwhat goiny community. i do know that there is that there has been a, that we are drafting or we have sent

sheriff, asking to discontinue the tear gas, exercise activities in our community. we do know that, regarding know, in the media, in the newspaper, i do believe that there are more than 30 children and there tn what's being reported in the media, with the fams that have been impacted and affected by by the exposu of the tear gas in our community. and so we have st survey to find out exactly, somewhat estimated amount of the families that were impacted and affected by the exp are, requesting also to have sheriff's, department be better neighbors with the city of san . happy friday today. thank youe so much for all your work. good

afternoon everyone. good afternoon. a little nervous, but no, don't be nervous, my name is jesus rios, i work with the latino task force, a with other organizations like roadmap to peace, moves, and a coupl i just wanted to share a couple thos, and thank you for the presentation. that was was a great presentation, but, i go inside the jails as part of my role right now. we do programing inside the jails, and i just wanted to talk about the budget cuts. you our community has felt a lot of budget cuts, from different organizations, different parts. and, i was going to tk about that, but we just did a group, in cx two for mental health moh last month. we did it on june 3rd, and i'm just sitting there with the people, you know, they still are people, even though they're ins, know, and we talk about a lot of stuff like that.

so, i just want y'a to not forget about the nonprofits and the community, the community work, you know, these people are still being released to the community, we help them in the community. and i think it takes the sheriff'sicity, all of us, k together and to try toer sutione smile on those people's faces, you know, makesy , even even if it's just for 45 minutes to an hour sitting there with them, talking to them, you know, making game plans of when they get released and stuff, i think that's really important, but i th presentation again. was that the event where you guys brought the. yes, we invited you, but, you know, you're busy, man. busyyou when i was over at latino task force. yes, sir. yes,. goyou, got you. mr. sorry, i missed that. mr. wiley's in the washington, but he's also in the community, but i just wanted to show him. i wish more people from our

community showed up because it's not the lack of it. you know, we had a good showing in february, so youe always welcome. and i think, we share your concerns and we definitely, want to enhance the nonprofit organizations. they are great partners in what we do, particularly pre reentry and supportive services for reentry and well noted about language access and the programs because, people who know me know i've worked on language access for a long time, even with the very first ordinance here in the city so i truly believe that we have to have better language access in our jails. the programs, so and also, you know, explaining things to families of incarcerated members so they understand what's going on as well. definitely. and the annex, how y'all spoke earjuster thered with, people from honduras, mostly central america two part of that mental health day. weo feed them, we brought a 60, foods, basically a

pre-made foods. and, they were able to eat that, so they got to taste a little bit of home. so thank you all. i just appreciate al this meeting. thank you for being here. and thank don't be a stranger. i will let everthatne question about agenda item five. we'd had again, we'd had a community meeting scheduled that glide last year. is that next time i think we should just make talkie community before we, like, start talking over them, okay. and mr. wiley also had some comment to say before, yeah. i just wantedt erybody know i was at the latino task force, offices last week, and i think we met while i was there, but the latinoask force, as is on their own, is providingpr the annex, so i just wanted to let folks know that they're not being compensated, but they're

providing programing. and i think it's very admirable on their part. so member rector yeah, my question. we had a public, community meeting scheduled for glide church last scheduled? if there's if there is kind of the community wants d the board need, but it appears that even though we tried really hard for the community meetings, a lot of communityhat they feel safer being in city hall. so we can check back. dan, do you want to check back with glide and see ifto be, i'm curih community members like a particular like, is it a certain inrest group or. it would be. it would be, pretty much the people who serve glide in the tenderloin area. and we remember we were doing i think s's

asking, like, all communities. right. yeah. i guess my question, to be clear, is who the committee members that you're referencing that feel i mean, even with, well, when the latino task force, they we'n city hall. and you guys are, you e city, but we would just rather have it at city hall and ite poibly, you know, public transportation lines and city hall might be more central. i see. so i leave it out. i'm not wedded to anything. i j we'e accessible to the public, and we meet them wher most comfortable. and i'm a believer in fieldri. i also, you know, would like to visit more areas and especially like even the. it's about the services. i mean, it was great to batmunity center, and i hadn't been to the new one. and i'm like, wow. an l cafe there as well. so, so i'm, you kn'm on to suggestions if you'd like to. i mean, i'm of the mindset that we should be going out to the

community versus having the community come here to city hall and taking tim off, like, you know, most people are working on fridays 2 to 5. and then the second piece is like, it's not. i mean, i know we had our town halls. it's a little tricky because we have our townalls that we try to do in each district, and we didn't have like the greatest attendance. but i wonder if, like, we can just meet where the impacted communities are already doing ingseiso for example, if the latino task force is already meeting on a wednesdaymt in. i agree with you. i think if they're having aarticular meeting or it's a particular church, and then we go there and afteror sething, we're there to share information . you know, the meeting was was canceled because we didn't have a quorumbut i did go there in case anyone showed up. and they had over 40 people who had signed up to attend. so i think there is a desire for us to gott in evening hours, when it's easier for people to

meeting. and i also wanted to prritizing the impacted communities like not all districts. we't he to be like the ones that like would care the mosti wonder if this is a i'm not sure if it's a question for the sheriff or the inspector general, but can we getind of a map of where do we who has the information of reentry and who has the information of are the districts that have more of the family mrs and population that have been previously incarcerated? so part of that is also, i think, onthae crimes happened to. so mucharaln we can do like southeast corridor, tenderloin, i think it might be helpful just g

that information. so then we can just identify concretely, okay. these are we're going to prioritize these because they're a higher number of so inspector wiley, could we call on you to and also, particular maybether? community groups who might want to invite us and be part of r that's already with us, set population. yes. so w do that. and i, reached out to supervisor, and tracy gallardo provided me with a list of all of the community based organizations in his district. invited all of them to a town hall next tuesday here at, ani reached out and spoke to people and everybody, thought it would be a great to havehe hall. and o we're having a town hall here on the 11th from 4 to 6. so so,

jana, let me call on you. there were two meetings, so there's going toa budget meeting as well as the town hall. so, opinion from you whether or not it would be problematic to quod to go there. be at both the budget hearing as ll as the town hall here at city hall. okay. thank you. yeah. and i was just going to say that weo need a, a list of people who are in san francisco who are dealing other community organizations ed when i wash reentry. people on this, reentry council, i still am, but i did suggest doing the chesa boudin administration that there should be a reentry, fice with the mayor. like that's such an

importantt of our community. now here in the city, and not to have an office of reentry in city hall that makes sure that those those vulnerable people who, owning protection of going back is, ams a parole officer or probation officer should have some lines ofctioto prevent them from false allegations and abuse of authority, etc, etc. so i think just on beginning that would be just getting contact with those organizations and having, touching basis with them. and then also member palmer also call on you with the jail justice coalition and the member organizations. if you can call on them to ask for suggestions on what you. but in meantime, i will, contact the reentry council because i actually like presentation. yeah. and the judge justice coalition d see ir

hours, because these hours are bad forhe our meetings. so maybe they can maybe we can create aown hall where we are there and we can show up with them as w. can i just add one suggestion? in most, you know, in most counties, probation controls a lot of the reentry money. that's true. so it might not be a bad id to have the head of probation, come and present to the board. like, how what are you doing with the reentry monen we ask the mayor's office to come and present to us? we can again. we can ask. yes, yes. if they come, that's a different story. i thought we better in july, but we could do it in augustal, you know, people are out andut a it's summer months. and so i take

every opportunity to beg for money short of putting out a tin cup, so i would call upon it's, you know, it's all of our jobs as well to say that we can't whe any resources from day one. we have made thater clear, inspector general, even at his acceptance speech after he was sworn in. provided i have the adequate resources. so but, i think, you know, we've done more work in the past few months since you've been here than some e a year or two to do. so commendable. and really want to thank marshal kind. he's on a well-deserved vacation, but for all of his support, oh my god. and one final note i did attend both days and i know member bruckner, you're always so busyo many employees, but that california coalition of oversight, the californiaerght,n oversight. civilian oversight

alliance. yes, because it was talking about shared resources, opinions and from different organizations. so not just in the bay area, but also nationally, but definitely the bay area. there's a lot of sharing. and even as we're dealing with statistics, i know there's still disparit with the black and brown communities, but we m against the population of san francisco, and it is not be just measured against the population of san francisco, becausee regional. so our nine bay area counties. so i'd like to see a little bit more efficiency on just even our nine bay area counties we're working together. i think everyone has a really good relationship. and in particular our san mateo sheriff also, that s bruno, representative here too. and i think we do eoy a relationship with the san mateo sheriff's office. so anything else? yes.

so, i guess i can call the meeting adjourned, and we do have a photographer today, i think he had to go. oh, he had to go. he'll not here. i finished, we finishedaie would go over time. and so that's why a littleoffially calm seven. adjournment action item. all those in favor? aye any nays? meeting is adjourned at 4:24 p.m. thank you, dan, for your proactiveness. ♪♪ >> san francisco!

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you know, many mothers, they don't have a choice about whether they get to o work or not. >> having individuals who are women in all of these es helps to create, a more rich dialogue around policy choices actually mean and what the impact to people and famili. so sing having women on the board here the city has been impactful in that way. >> supervisor kim, kim presentation. >> democracy is about capryou leave off over half of the population. a lot of women are not taking care of children but taking care of parents and working so all of those life's experiences are part now of policies of our city policies and throughout the country >> supervisor breed. >> here. >> breed present. >> supervisor maxwell. >> we saw two of san francisco mayor having originated from the board of supervisors as wel

that's where people are seen as leaders and and have the influence to influence policy. i think it's nt to see ourselves in that. >> supervisor cohen. cohen present. >> doris ed rt control. contracts for black women, women of color and small businesses, he will a was really really special, she s really who motivated me. she worked for the lawu, she was a switch board operator and th. and then founded an organization cofounded with sodyre of racial equity core. so the lin she came with was about equity, about young women, seniors aé■t-risk youth having jobs. it was about more police guided. those three women to me left

their legacy. >> supervisor elliot. >> when you think abt the legislative and women legislatures, i think the tendency is to find a women issue that otherwise won be covered. women included have touched on so many faucets of policies. it's important to be seen through your life experiences how you idor a young girls, i think having women on the board is important because you get to sethat you actually chand seat yourself in that power of decision. >> that es business for today. >> there was one where the fellows, at the time, they were arguing and i was the only women and african-american, and i'm sitting there, thinking oh my god, it's room full of people because it's a board day and i'm thinking, what say to

stop this. so theunme the words, gentlemen, let us be about the people of business. and of course all the people started clapping. and they had to do what? they had to act like gentleman, that one for me, showed the rta having the importance of having african-americans and the african-american women. >> to the women of the board, past, present and fut you for your strength, grace, and changing san francisco for the better. le

>> here is great wall hardware, 3500 square feet of retail space. we carry about 22 thousand here and countingfelt it never stops because i have a thing. when a customer says, do you have this and i don't have it, it bothers me. i won't have it. so, it is just one those things owning a hardware store, people expect you to have everything and you if full thill fulfill that need. native san franciscan. born in chinatown, same bruce lee, chinatown hospital. my family moved to the sunset in the 70's, so my mom and dad thought, we are already doing construc, on we open a hardware? it is nice dove tail to each other, so w that got started. we started this store in 1983, and we have been going every since, so now it is 40 years. i like serving my neighborhood. i fealt a hardware is different

from other businesses. s u want to buy this or that and eat this or that. a hardware store is different. and usually have a problem and need a solution and looking for you through that problem and offer them products that help them get to e need to go. the people are great. i love this neighborhood. there is different etnisties and cultures here. we all intermingle and mix together and get along fineand i like that about this neighborhood t. is nice place to be. r thbeach and beautiful and near the ooand park and stern grove. great schools and parks. what's twl i am always looks around the corner the next thing d crank it up more and make it safer and more enjoyable. brin ng in new businesses. support them. days a all hardware, open 7 week, monday-friday 8 to 6, saturday is 10 to and sunday is 10 to 3. =