mr. benedicto, present commissioner yanez present. commissioner yi, air vice president carter and president elias are in route, commissioners, you have a quorum. also with us tonight is chief scott from the san francisco police department and executive director paul henderson from the department of police accountability line. item one. general public comment at this time. the public is now

welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police commission. rules of order. during public comment, neither police or dpr personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways. email the secretary to the police commission at sfpd dot commission at sfgov. org or written comments may be sent via us postal service to the public safety building located at 1245 third street, san francisco, california. 94158. if you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. good evening. i've got seven of these. please spread it. i mean, i didn't put a name. i'm sorry, i just sfpd and co and i want you to have one. is that okay? okay. again good evening. so, let me try to be concise with

what i said to the board of supervisors again yesterday. remember it's not a joke for me. it's not a joke. what's going on is that you need to change your basically almost via android 80. from what you have been doing. because i said it's not a joke. you are under arrest. it's basically humans are under humanity is under arrest because it's reached a level of incompetence that never be reached, ever in human history. is that the unintelligence is through the roof. so you it's easy to understand. for example, you see, i doesn't mean artificial intelligence. it means absolute incompetence. a perfect example. why do we need more and more safety now than before? now it includes robots. it's because we have absolute incompetence. that's why. so we

have been going through a miseducation. basically for it's not 50 years, 100 years, it's centuries. so we are like, okay, now step by step, we feel we think locally because we can't solve the problems of the entire world. now it's locally. so please, you do your job because remember, the skies are watching you. they know where you are. they know what you do. they know what you think. pay attention. have a good night. i guess line number one. general public comment. that was something else. i'm sorry, hi. good evening. miss brown is here to

talk about our son again. i'd like to use the overhead. is it on? i don't know. oh yes. and so i am here again to talk about my son aubrey. about casa junior, who was murdered august 14th, 2006. by perpetrators that didn't care about people. they shoot in innocent people, today his case is unsolved. i am still looking for ways to solve unsolved homicides. and i was thinking about max carter. ulverstone. i'm sorry that he is going to work with the dpa to get, people to. are investigators that do police

investigation to work with doing investigation for my son and not just my son, but all unsolved homicides as i bring these with me all the time about the on all unsolved homicides. as i brought this, there's been $0 paid out in a decade for unsolved homicides. and if we can get these unsolved homicides like, like this, solved. mothers like myself wouldn't have to go through what i'm going through now. i bring these pictures with me to show that my grief still is still here. my grief is not going to go. it says grief never ends because love never dies. and my love for my son is never going to die. this is what they left me. what can we do? thank

you. if any member of the public has any information regarding the murder of aubrey aberra kassa, you can call the anonymous 24 over seven tip line at (415) 575-4444. that is the end of public comment, next, item. line item two. consent calendar. receive and file action. second quarter 2024 live monitoring report. motion to receive and file. second. any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding the consent calendar line. item two. please approach the podium. there's no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? commissioner clay is. yes. commissioner walker. yes commissioner walker is yes.

commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner yanez. yes. commissioner janez is yes. commissioner yi. yes. commissioner yi is yes. and president elias. yes. president elias is. yes. you have six yeses. line item three. chief's report. discussion. weekly crime trends and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents, or events occurring in san francisco. having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities the chief describes will be limited to determining whether the calendar for a future meeting. chief scott, thank you, sergeant youngblood. good evening, president elias, commission executive director henderson and the public, just before i get into the crime trends and significant events, we had an officer involved shooting this past week, friday and this past friday. the virtual town hall is scheduled to be on monday, this coming monday. so we will put that out to the public and the media, at the time, it should be 3 to 5, but it may be a little bit longer, but we'll set the time

as well and put that out in public. and the details will be provided as to what we have now during that town hall, virtual town hall. so as far as this week, crime trends for the week, we are still at a 32% decrease for the year. in part one crimes. property crimes 34% down and violent crime is 14% down. we are still at, 24 homicides for the year, compared to 38 for this time last year. so that's a 37% reduction in homicides. our shootings are down as well. and across the board, all part one crime is down at least double digits across the board. as far as significant events, there were no homicides to report for this week. there was one shooting, a non-fatal that was at laguna and golden gate in the northern district on september 11th at 1 p.m. the victim was located and had a gunshot wound. the victim was unable to provide

information, but was transported to a local hospital for ■their injuries, the investigation included interviewing of witnesses, and that investigation is ongoing. no arrests have been made in that particular case. there were several significant arrests made that i'd like to highlight for this past week, the first one we have seen a rash of retail theft, which we believe is organized retail theft crews, across san francisco, san mateo county at retail stores, mostly stores such as lenscrafters. on september 12th, we worked in coordination with the daly city police department and the end result was four prolific retail theft suspects were arrested and a loaded firearm. stolen merchandise was recovered after they attempted to hit several stores in the bay area. the suspects vehicle was spotted in the area of the 3200 block of

20th avenue, then traveled to two different shopping malls in san mateo county. when the suspect vehicle arrived at a mall, in the unit block of the serramonte center in daly city, two occupants exited the vehicle and were taken into custody while entering the mall. i believe that they were about to commit the same type of crime in that mall. suspect vehicle then fled the scene and a short time later was located by sfpd units who were searching for the vehicle. that vehicle was seen in the area of 16th street, and bryant had two occupants in it. both were taken into custody of the vehicle and taken into custody without incident. a search of the vehicle yielded a loaded firearm and stolen merchandise from, from the retail stores that i just mentioned. the investigation included, personnel from two police agencies working together to locate, conduct surveillance, and apprehend this known organized retail burglary crew

and their car suspects had committed numerous burglaries in the city and the county of san francisco and in san mateo county. the loss of the burglaries in total is estimated to be more than $100,000, so this is a really good, work by our folks didn't happen overnight. they had been hitting for a while, but really good collaboration with bordering police departments as well. then there's a second incident on september 7th at 2024. officers from central, northern and southern tenderloin and taraval stations conducted an auto burglary operation suppression operation. while in the area of the palace of fine arts, which is an area that has been known for a number of car break-ins, a high number of car break ins, our plainclothes officers observed a auto and auto burglary occur. the suspects vehicle fled, and the officers tried to maintain surveillance of the vehicle, but lost sight of it due to evasive illegal maneuvers and the risk to public

safety. the suspects vehicle information was broadcast over the police radio in a short time later that vehicle was observed in the area of masonic avenue at golden gate avenue. during additional surveillance of the alamo square area, the officers observed the same suspect commit an auto burglary at fullerton and scott streets. surveillance continued on the suspect vehicle as it fled the area, and we believe, committed to commit numerous moving violations. although the officers lost sight of the vehicle, it was later seen traveling eastbound on interstate 80 near the fourth street exit. officers followed the vehicle to the 800 block of west macarthur boulevard. this is in oakland, where one of the occupants of the suspects vehicle was observed moving property from inside the vehicle and then get into another vehicle that was parked nearby. that vehicle was also known to be associated with a prolific auto burglar, a 25 year old san francisco resident by the name of robert sonza. as the suspect

vehicle fled at a high rate of speed, officers formulated a plan, utilized tire deflation devices, also known as spike strips, to stop the suspect vehicle and prevent a dangerous pursuit. suspect's vehicle was involved in a collision at piedmont avenue and pleasant valley avenue in oakland, where sons had exited the vehicle from the driver's seat, tried to run away. the other occupant, a juvenile, fled on foot and was taken into custody through the course of the investigation. the first vehicle involved an auto burglaries at the palace of fine arts, and alamo square was determined to have been driving a stolen vehicle. a search of the vehicle yielded burglary tools and property from the auto burglaries that occurred on september 2nd, in the area of the palace of fine arts. the search of a second suspect vehicle yielded more stolen property and a firearm. officers recovered all stolen property and reunited that property to multiple victims of auto burglaries. the adult suspect, robert lionel sonza, was arrested for receiving stolen

property, accessory after the fact, resisting and delaying arrest, carrying a loaded firearm and a person convicted of a misdemeanor violation of a firearm related offense. he was had a felony. felon in possession of firearm. and several other charges. the juvenile suspect was cited for a vehicle that theft of a vehicle, 151 of the california vehicle code receiving stolen property, two counts of burglary, possession of burglary tools, and resisting or delaying arrest. they were released to their parents. so again, this is some really good work by our officers and our this our plainclothes unit. a lot of coordination had to take place. and i just also want to highlight a lot of care was taken to try to avoid a pursuit, even though these evasive tactics were being used by these individuals as they fled from the officers. but the result was good. nobody was hurt in the collision, and these prolific car burglars were arrested. and

then the last, incident that i'd like to report on as far as significant arrests. on tuesday, september 10th, search warrants were obtained to conduct a plan operation for two retail store locations that were operating as illegal gambling facilities on the 200 block of leavenworth street. now, as you all know, this block, we've had a tremendous amount of challenges on this block and legislation has been passed by the board of supervisors to limit the hours of some of these retail or retail stores where we've been having just a host of illegal activity and problems. at least one of these stores was one of those stores with a limited hours. but during the search warrant services investigators detained several subjects and conducted a search of the premises and eventually seized illegal gambling machines, including, several illegal gambling machines, narcotics, drug paraphernalia, us currency believed to be gained by proceeds of illegal gambling and

sale of narcotics, stolen products, cigarettes, stolen cigarettes, a firearm, and a replica firearm. eight people were arrested. all adult males, for various violations related to this warrant and this investigation. and again, this is a multi-agency. the san francisco cisco sheriff's offic. and, as you all remember, about a year and a half ago now, when we stood up the dmac, the national guard and their intelligence folks are a part of that operation. and they were also instrumental, their analysts in helping us put this investigation together. so those are the significant, events for this week. and i believe i'm out of time. so that is my report for the week. so just one other thing. just dreamforce. dreamforce is happening, yesterday it started today and tomorrow we are heavily deployed. and also we do have the assistance of the california

highway patrol. so, so far so good with dreamforce. and there is about almost 50,000 attendees. one of the biggest conferences that we have in san francisco. so we're really happy to be hosting salesforce. and so far it's gone very well. thank you chief, and happy birthday. my little virgo friend. thank you, it's your birthday. this is not the way to spend it, i might tell you. we need we need you to get a hobby or some activities. got to work. yeah yay! we could have canceled this for you. all right. we sure could have. you know, i should ask. no, i'm kidding, thank you, thank you. i was wondering if you could. i'm going to ask to agendize, there was an article regarding the drones, the timing of the drones, and the purchasing of the drones, so i think that the myself and the public would really like a clear timeline of when the drones were purchased

and addressing some of the issues that were raised in this article, so i don't know if you want to give a brief update of what happened at the board of supervisors yesterday, and then we can follow up with a more in-depth discussion when it's agendized. thank you. thank you for that. so, yes, there were there was an article i think the headlines were, of course, i don't agree with them. so basically our drones after prop eight was passed and we went into the procurement process, we definitely looked at the law and consulted with our city attorney's office on how to proceed with the implementation of the drone program and purchasing the drones, our policy was, presented to the board of supervisors, i believe it was june fourth, and it was just heard this past week yesterday, actually, it passed at least the first round. and we'll go to the, you know, past the final vote was yesterday. so it passed by a 9 to 2 vote. but we believe and always have

believed that we are in total compliance with ab 41 and all the other laws and also in terms of procurement of the drones and the policy. that policy was well researched. well thought out, we've taken, i call it field trips to other cities. we've looked at, you know, best practices across the region, across the country in terms of drones, including the retention periods and all that. so happy to present a more detailed report on this. but definitely our feeling. my feeling is that we did everything that we were supposed to do in terms of the law and implementation of this drone program. after prop eight passed, commissioner walker, thank you. happy birthday to you. thank you. so i'm we could talk about this in the commissioner reports, but regarding the drones, commissioner benedicto and i are going to do a, drone display

presentation at the salesforce. i think the dreamforce, the department is doing a. i think it's already it's an event there for. yeah. so we're going to go over there tomorrow to watch the drone in action. the response for the shooting, i'm looking forward to the town hall on monday. i was down in that area when it happened and it seemed very organized in the response. so i'm looking i'm, you know, anxious to see the videos, if anyone in the public is interested in these officer involved shootings, the town halls are really informative, they're really helpful in seeing what actually happened and just underlines the importance of having body worn cameras when you've got a gun. so. and then the last thing the gambling, issue down in the tenderloin, there was also one, a gambling, bust i believe in the excelsior.

do you think they're related? i mean, do you guys know if one led to the other or is the same group i don't at this point. we don't believe that it's the same group. but they are those types of establishments in several parts of the city. we also had another one in the mission district. 000, yeah, yeah, yeah, i remember that. yeah. so we don't at this time believe it's the same group. but as i said earlier, it's very problematic locations where these things are happening. so the community was, members of the community were ecstatic that we were able to take down these gambling operations. great. thank you. thank you. chief commissioner yee, thank you very much, president elias. i just have, again, thank you, chief. and happy birthday again. thank you, i guess thank your staff and, i guess the department, you know, keeping the crime rate low again, bringing it down. i just

have a, i guess, a questions regarding, incidents. the first incidents regarding, i guess the retail theft and then also the auto burglaries. i was wondering if you had used drone on these or had any thoughts of dispatching drones out on these, i guess, issues or calls on these two, there were not drones used on these particular two cases. there was pretty extensive surveillance, but drones were not used. i mean, these these these individuals were. they were traveling to multiple counties and all that. not that we can't use drones in multiple counties, but this was more of a surveillance operation, that we felt comfortable with. the, the plan. so drones were not used to my knowledge on the, on either one of these. thank you very much, chief. thank you. commissioner,

thank you so much, president elias. and happy birthday, chief, a couple of questions i want to ask about. i'm going to echo what president elias said, that i'll also be requesting, a presentation. on the drone authorization based on, some of the reporting that we've seen. i understand there's that you disagree with some of the reporting, so i think it'll be important to get that in front of everyone. a couple of other questions i had, i wondered, i know last week you were estimating about a week to release the video for that incident involving that hot dog vendor. i wonder if you could provide an update on the release of that of that footage? yeah, thank you for that, it will be delayed because of the officer-involved shooting. we have one videographer. videographer at this time. so, these officer-involved shootings are extremely involved. this one has a lot of video on it as well. so going through all that, it will push it back. but i do believe we'll be able to get it out next week. okay. so

hopefully by the time the commission is dark next week. so by the time we return in october, it should be it should be released. yes, definitely. definitely. by the time commission returns. so okay, if you could provide an update on your chief support at our first meeting in october on, you know, if it was released and how it was released, things like that, that would be helpful, another question i had there was another, there was a news story that was published was in the san francisco chronicle. it was mostly a statewide story, but it was with respect to, the multiple law enforcement agencies around the state using clean records agreements that had an impact on that would prevent subsequent agencies from potentially getting important background material, i was wondering if you'd seen that story and if you had any reaction to it. i have not seen the story, but what was the issue as far as backgrounds? it was an issue of where officers who were perhaps slated for termination or serious discipline would agree to a settlement that included, those discipline records being expunged and then a resignation instead of a termination and resulting. they tracked a few. i don't believe at least featured

in the article. there were any sfpd officers, but featured some officers who went from multiple agencies, despite pretty egregious, discipline issues that were unable to be disclosed because of the strength of these agreements. yeah i as as far as i know, nothing like that has affected us. and in our background processes. we are we do make contact with agencies for laterals. or if somebody had a previous a previous employment with a police agency, and we try to get as much information regarding discipline cases as they are willing to release, even as far as to my knowledge, we have not had an issue with that. okay. yeah. i mean, i think the worrying thing about the article as a trend is that these agreements are structured sometimes such that the subsequent agency won't be able to get access to that. you know, they're sort of designed to safeguard against this. i wonder if i might, send your office the articles and maybe we could plan

on agendizing that for a future discussion. for a future discussion as well, thank you very much. and then the let's see if a couple more things. i wanted to ask a couple of questions, following up on sffsff and the status of the public safety cameras at sfc formerly operated. i know previously, the last time we'd spoken, i think in the summer, you understood they were still in operation, but there wasn't a process for sfpd to necessarily access them. i just wonder if there's an update on on on the sf, sf cameras. we have been able to get the footage from those cameras. we do not the city or the police department do not own any of the cameras or the footage, but working with the vendor who now has, the same vendor who installed them. that vendor has control over the footage and the cameras. so we worked out an agreement, and they have been very kind to work with us to get footage of the use these historical footage for anything that we need in an investigation for those. so that

has been happening for several months now. that's good to hear. is it would you say it's the case that the level of access you have now with the vendor is the same level of access that you had under sf safe, or are there still gaps that need to be filled, i would say that it's probably better. it's probably better than it was with sf safe. what about some of the other functions that sf safe did? are those being carried out by contingents within sfpd? i know there was a lot of community engagement that sf sf did right. we have we have absorbed almost all of the neighborhood watch. we have absorbed all of that neighborhood watch, the community meetings, the coordination for community meetings that safe was doing. the one thing that we have to get up and running. they were responsible. safe was responsible for bicycle registry. so we have not been able to get those any of those records because of the criminal investigation. so that's a work in progress. but as far as the neighborhood watch meetings, the, community police advisory board or cpap meetings, we have

assumed all that we have. we transferred some of our psa's. we hired some 1960s to assist in this work. also, the, the home checks or the business checks. there's a certification that's necessary to, to do those checks. it's just, we have a retired person, 960 prop f employee who has those certifications. so we brought him back and we're actually doing those again as well. thank you so much, chief. i think and i think i apologize in my birthday present for you appears to be multiple agenda items for future meetings, but i think that was a helpful summary. i think it would be helpful for members of the public, given the numerous roles sf staff did to. i'll be requesting a presentation that has just what you said breaking down which of the functionality has been absorbed by sfpd, which is still lacking, which maybe is better, but i think it's important that that be be noted to the public. definitely happy to do that. thank you, thank you. that's all for me. gift that keeps on

giving, commissioner clay. yeah. thank you, madam president. happy birthday chief. thank you. so to follow up on commissioner benedicto's, the issue of the agreements with terminated police officers and the non-disclosure agreements, unlike everybody else, we're san francisco, and i see here this commission has to approve settlements amongst the officers with the department. we have never i've never seen a clause. and whether or not my question was, do we have that kind of clause that you have, the department has ever put forth asking us for non-disclosure of somebody else's record in order to allow them to go somewhere else upon termination? no, i'm not aware of any of that. and settlements that the commission or the department has approved. i mean, with the covid cases, i think there was there was some discussions about, how long those records would be before they were sealed. but other than

the covid cases, i'm not aware of any any of those. so what we found and what i found as the judge when we had the purchased material, you would have sometimes you would get these officers from these smaller jurisdictions and then you later on found out. yes, in fact, they had some problems at another place. but the problem was these smaller departments didn't have the funds to go on and fight the legal battle. so they come to this conclusion and sometimes they just dump them. it's a good thing for them to get rid of them real quick, and it becomes somebody else's problem. so we don't want to have that here in san francisco. i can't see it happening based upon this commission and you as the chief approving something like that. but to the extent that you guys all when you're hiring laterals, i would imagine there's something in that application that reflects whether or not you've been terminated or been subject to some type of discipline within your own department. with that. yeah, absolutely. yes. thank you chief. thank you. chief, do you separately ask for 1421

material? do i for lateral hires? i mean, as the departmen, you could ask for 1421 material if they don't already automatically disclose it, which i imagine they would. yeah they as far as disciplinary records, we're we're able to get what we need to do backgrounds. so i, i don't think there's a separate need to ask for 1421 material because it's usually included in whatever discipline that that person has. so vice president carter oversaw, i thank you, president elias. i'm sorry, chief, that i missed the report today, but i'll i'll review it tomorrow. i'm sure it was great. and happy 39th birthday. i'm sure there's no other place you'd rather be than right here with us. so two weeks ago, we had a presentation from city, and just wanted to follow up to see if they received those two additional employees. they did

both. yes. that's great. and you also mentioned during that presentation that you had hoped or had some plans to get them back up to the eight that headcount that they once had. is that is there any update on that or. yeah, no movement on that yet, and basically how it would work, hopefully our next academy class is going to be the biggest that we've had in a while. you know, our goal is 50. and if we retain the majority of those, then that will loosen up when they graduate. the ability to start restaffing some of our specialized units, we actually have shortages across the board. i mean, you have mentioned our traffic company, our motorcycle officers, tactical, almost every unit, there are shortages. sbu not the pr unit, though that's fully staffed, not the pr unit, though. that's fully staffed or i'm sorry, you call it media

relations. oh, they're they're not fully staffed either. so nobody is fully close. yeah no they're not not even close. we checked they don't have a sergeant. they don't have a they do not have a full nobody. nobody is fully staffed honestly. so okay. thank you for that. and i may have caught the tail end of it, but it sounded like we were discussing the chronicle piece about disability separation agreements. but did we talk about the new standard piece about the backgrounds of the folks doing the background checks at sfpd? no, we did not. we did not. okay so two weeks ago, i asked you about a standard piece that covered this. there's an updated standard piece i can't remember recently covering the backgrounds of two more individuals that we had rehired to do background checks, who themselves had things that i think most people would consider red flags in their background. and just so we don't cover the same ground as last time, it

sounded like your response was last time that if a if an officer or an employee separates honorably from the department, they are typically hired back. and unless something new happened where there was, where the issue was fully adjudicated, like found guilty or found liable, that it wouldn't be a total bar to them being rehired is do i have that right, for the most part. so we do look, if an employee is hired, these are at will employees. so number one is there, you know, what's the fit. what are they being hired for? for instance, if the need is for a cold case investigator and somebody who's only worked patrol, we would not hire that person to put them in homicide to work cold cases. so it's not an automatic because they have an honorable retirement that they would get hired. so i just want to be clear on that. it depends on what the need is and what the fit is. if we find information that is,

problematic, we still have the option to not hire that person. but we look at the whole situation of that particular employee. i do want to say this, though. i mean, that article has had, whether it was intended to or not. i mean, you know, people come out of retirement to help this city. and i want to make sure that we support the people who don't deserve to have their names besmirched by an article. it's not fair to the employees. you know, somebody has something in their background where whether we discover it because of a news article or we discover it in our own background, investigations, that's one thing. but this news article has caused people to, i think, even reconsider whether it's worth going through the drama and the aggravation to come back and help the city. and i don't. i hope that wasn't the desire for

this person that wrote this article, but it is having a chilling effect on us hiring people. let me ask you this. i think it would just be helpful for me and maybe for the public as well, just to understand how these decisions get made. so you do a background check. it turns out like some of the examples in the article, someone has been, you know, accused of domestic violence or check forgery or shooting a woman who was having a mental health issue. what is the next step? who who who reviews these red flags? and how is the decision ultimately made about whether a person can or cannot be hired as a result of what's discovered in the back? excuse me? in the background check. it's at the assistant chief or chief level. some of them come to me. not all of them, but between the assistant chiefs and the chief. usually those. not usually. they always go through the one of the three of us. and, you know, things

like a prior officer involved shooting. of course, we're going to look at to see what happened with that officer involved shooting, but we don't reinvestigate the officer involved shooting or a commission case or department discipline case. we don't reinvestigate that. you know, we'll look at that for what it's worth. if it's something that causes us pause to hire that person, then we won't. but that is reviewed. and, again, people who retire honorably, they get a they get a fair look if it fits what we need in terms of the reason that we're hiring that person. and that's pretty much the process. and is there a process that determines whether the decision is made at the assistant chief or chief level? no, it depends on the needs. for instance, like the ambassadors that we hire, most of those ambassadors, are hired or the decision is made at the assistant chief level. i signed the paperwork, but usually unless there's a reason, if i

have questions, then i'll talk to that assistant chief about questions that i have. but i give them some autonomy, because if you're wearing an operations and you need ambassadors to help the operations, then they're allowed to do the backgrounds and not do the backgrounds, but get the briefings on the background and decide who they want in their commands. and ultimately, it's up to me to either agree or disagree. okay just think that that is helpful. and so just one last question on this. just just to put a finer point on it, if an officer retires honorably and the background check only reveals issues that were known to the department at the time that they separated, it's not a guarantee they will be rehired. yeah, that would be true. so if something else is found. no no, no. yeah. just in my example. yeah, i'm assuming nothing new is found. so they retire. they they leave honorably. they come back and reapply the background check

only uncovers things that we already knew at the time that they originally retired. that's that's not a guarantee that they will be rehired. no, it's not a guarantee. yeah. okay. and they may not be rehired because of some of those things that were flagged. is that possible? that is possible. yes. okay. great. understood. last thing i wanted to ask about, at the risk of repeating, you know, a question that one of my colleagues asked is, did we already discuss the issue of authorization to purchase the drones in light of ab 41? yes, we did, and that will be agendized. but i gave a brief, okay. i'll i'll listen to your scintillating brief tomorrow since i was late and i missed it. okay. i just want to ask something that i probably wasn't asked because it's not directly related to this, but, you know, we had two presentations on on 481, the first time. it's a 15 minute

presentation, and the department never disclosed that they failed to meet the state law deadline for bringing the, you know, present, getting approval from the board. you know, we had to ask about it. we had another or i should say, also failed to meet the state law requirement of having a community meeting. we had to affirmatively ask about that. and then again, at the follow up meeting that we had more recently, this these like details of violation of state law are just like not affirmatively raised, like acknowledged by the department. it seems like this wasn't like a day or two. this was like six months late. and i'm just wondering, like what? how is the choice made? not to cover that in a 15 minute presentation? it seems like a pretty important point that we should know about. yeah. so the community meeting issue was covered and the commission particularly was did not accept the fact that this

meeting. was in compliance with the state law. as far as the community meeting clarify not the meeting. the two minute public comment was, yeah, that was your definition of community meeting. so the commission didn't accept that this was that satisfied. the state requirements for community meeting. and that's when we went back and did the meeting. so, basically, i mean, an argument can be made. it can be made as far as there's no description of what those community meetings entail. okay. but the law is pretty clear. it contemplates a meeting where there will be a free form back and forth, which clearly that's not permitted in a, in a meeting where so someone can make a two minute comment and not receive any feedback on on that comment. right or they could but the bottom line is, if i understand your your question

correctly is what? why didn't we why weren't you forthright in these two presentations, particularly the first one, there was a dozen 15 slides and none of them said, hey, by the way, we are out of compliance with state law for six months. we are six months late in in getting and taking and getting approval from the board. that seems like a really salient issue, right? salient issue. yes. i mean, there was not this was not a secret that we were late. we wrote letters to the board. we wrote letters, with a timeline of when we thought we would have this report done. so if what you're saying is that we're trying to hide this from the public, that is not the case. i'm not trying to say anything other than what i said. i'm just asking why you decided not to affirmatively disclose it in a 15 minute presentation. that's all it wasn't in the presentation, but it wasn't. it wasn't a matter of trying to hide anything for the public. and that's what it sounds like

you're trying to say. it wasn't in the presentation, but it was late. i mean, that's the bottom line. it was late. we knew it was late. we wrote the board and told them it was late. we wrote to the authority who the report was going to tell them it was late, so we knew it was late. and is your position that the purchase itself was was it is your position that the purchase was in compliance with state law or not at this point? yes in compliance? in compliance, yes. yes. oh, wow. this this i really look forward to listening to your explanation and to when it's agendize. it'll be at the next meeting. all right. that's everything for me. thanks. thank you. commissioner yanez okay. go ahead. all right. for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item three, the chief's report, please approach. please approach the podium. i was about to leave. i'm glad i stayed. i mean, glad is not. maybe the word you beat around the bush. why whoever pushed for the

purchase of drones? it's not only an whoever accepted this is not only under arrest. you can't bail yourself out now because you know that these drones, the concept has no good intention. you know, it. so sorry chief. you might remember this as your birthday. 18 of september, when now you are under arrest. the skies won't let you go if you don't veer and say sorry. we do not want this biosecurity state in our city of san francisco. of course, this includes coming up robot ugliness, as you know. well whatever you need to go back to your competence as human

beings. cops here think clint eastwood maybe. i don't know. seriously, i'm not joking. so now the ball is in your camp, remember? because these guys can bail themselves out. that is, they're going to finish their existence. unhappy, ugly will never be back in any form or shape because their existence was a waste of space for humanity, and their children or closest descendants are going to pay for them. on top of that, do you want to be with them? i don't think so. have a good night. okay he's going to call. i

talked about this. bridge is very good, but. but i'm trying to play this, thing, by the way. happy birthday to you. better to say that, but i'd like to. oh, there it is. let me see if it'll work. i'm sorry i had to turn it up. aubrey acosta, he was just 17 years old when he was killed at the same intersection back in 2006. and nearly two decades later, there's still been no arrest in this cold case. today, city supervisors voted in favor of a resolution to rename a portion of the street. max darrow has more on how it will help one mother's tireless pursuit of justice. on the corner of baker and grove

streets in san francisco, paulette brown puts up yet another photo of her son, aubrey plaza. the staples give you an idea of how many times she's done this over the last 18 years. i miss you so much, son. mommy's still fighting for you. aubrey was murdered here on august 14th, 2006. he was 17 years old. the case remains an unsolved homicide. he didn't deserve to die. for years, she's hoped people would see his photo and would speak up. i do think that people still know what happened to my child, but soon there will be a permanent marker to honor aubrey's life and legacy. yes, this is like it's going to be up here. the san francisco board of supervisors approved a resolution to name the 1500 block of grove street, aubrey plaza junior street. my hope is that someone will see it and remember what happened that

day and come forth. of course, the move doesn't give her closure, however, i feel hurt more now than i ever did. i feel like my efforts are being heard. over the course of her nearly 20 year quest for justice, paulette has seen city leaders change and police chiefs come and go. she holds a public vigil every year to bring the community together, to keep the case alive and to help give other mothers who've lost children a sense of strength to keep going. mayor london breed and chief bill scott both spoke at this year's vigil. to me, it's inspirational of what she and this family has been doing for so many years. they've never given up. they're out there supporting not only their own family, but other families. thank you. they took his body, but they didn't tell him. thank you. and that is the end of public comment line item for dpa director's report

discussion report on recent activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting. executive director henderson, thank you, we currently have 510. five, 510 cases that are open. and this year we've closed 618 cases, we have 17 cases that are whose investigations have gone more than nine months of those 17 cases, 16 of the cases are told. so it's essentially one case, we have 117 cases that have been sustained by the dpa that are still pending with the chief's office. and we have 13 cases that are still pending with the police commission, the highest allegation summary of cases from this week has been for officers

behaving or speaking inappropriately. over 30% of the cases, and in terms of what we have been doing, we've participated in a couple of events recently, we did an outreach event yesterday as part of the ongoing partnership with john o'connell high school, that was started with our attorney, senior attorney and recruitment director, janetta thompson, with matt corley, who is a high school teacher here that did an externship with dpa in the past. i just want to thank tonetta, our mediation director, ali schultheiss, and investigator shante quezada, with our 1421 paralegal, victoria william wilmer, for taking the time to prepare the dpa 101 interactive engagement, as well as the know your rights presentation. and what we did in that whole presentation was we had a fictitious and fictitious

scenario based on the classes doing a mock dpa investigation and presenting them with the class, we're proud of the partnership with the school and the school district and the growth of that project and program over the past two years, our stop data audit is currently with the comptroller's office. and again, this is for quality assurance testing to make sure that a third party review reviews it before we can move forward with publishing. and we'll let the commission know when we receive it back. the policy division, has started working on it's the policy division is jermaine jones by the way, and they started they have started working on deago 6.16 sexual assault dgo working group, which includes commissioner benedicto, as well as a wide range of sfpd and external stakeholders. so i'll give you updates on those as that proceeds, our investigations, our

investigations unit opened 15 new cases this week. present in the courtroom. we have a presentation. i'll reserve my comments on the agenda items as they come up, in the courtroom, we are in the hearing room. natalie is here with the intern presentation, as well as tania thompson and diana rosenstein, as well as jermaine jones and. matt stonecipher is here as wel. senior investigator. oh my god. we have to start putting the names in here. it's killing me, if anyone has any questions, for dpa, they can contact us directly. the phone number is 2417711, or they can reach us online at sfgovtv. org forward

slash dpa that concludes, that concludes my report. here everyone, we've got a lot of names. i it's the names. if any member of the public has any public comment regarding line item four, please approach the podium. and there's no public comment. line item five commission reports discussion and possible action. commission president's report. commissioner's reports and commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting. have a good night. thank you. president elias, a couple items for my report as indicated in the chief's report, i placed a number of items to be agendized, one being the status of the sf safe services, including cameras and community engagement, to see which of those have been absorbed and handled by sfpd, the second is the same, request

that president elias made for an update, on the legal authorization for the drones program. and then finally for a presentation on the report for the sf chronicle regarding the clean records agreements. i think that judge clay's point that he made was a good one, that the commission this commission has a lot of authority over settlements. i think what most troubled me in that report, which is why i'd like to see a presentation, is that scenario where it's laterals coming into the department where based on the way some of these agreements are structured, even if we had accessed the background investigators, which is a separate issue, get access to all the personnel files, they might not be able to see the situation that might have been protected by these agreements. and indeed, you saw in that story a number of agencies that were contacted for references and were not able to share anything. and in fact, in at least one case, not only was one of the clear records agreements strong enough that they couldn't give, a negative recommendation, there was even, an implication

of a positive recommendation in one of those cases. and so i think i'd like to see ways the sfpd can hopefully protect ourselves against that happening. i think a lot of these changes will need to be state law changes. but i think as one of the many organizations that oversee law enforcement agencies across the state, i think it's important to bring attention to this. so i've asked for that to be agendized as well, a few other updates. congratulations to miss brown for the renaming of the 1500 block of grove street. and for casa junior. it was an honor to get to speak in support of that, as director henderson said, i attended the first working group meeting for dg.o 6.16 regarding sexual assaults. d.o.j. was last updated, i think, in 2008. so it's not one of our 1990s era ones, but still long overdue for an update. i do want to thank, the department's community policy working group analyst for the organization of the meeting.

and i also want to thank captain alexa o'brien of the special victims unit. i think that we have three special victims unit folks on the working group. i think they'll be invaluable, subject matter experts on on that particular work, the last piece of my report is i wanted to share that, chief scott, director henderson and myself attended an event for the first responder children's foundation yesterday, at the invitation of one of the event's co-chairs. state comptroller malia cohen, who herself used to be a member of this commission, the first responder children's foundation was founded in the wake of the september 11th, 2001 terror attacks to provide support for the children, specifically of first responders, where there was not a dedicated nonprofit to that use. they do a tremendous work and are expanding their work to partner with sfpd, and i'm looking forward to seeing how we can collaborate with them. among the many projects they do is they provide scholarships, including over $1 million last year for over 350

scholarships. i think that, the chief and director henderson will agree that the most engaging speaker last night was this incredible, young woman named elizabeth, who was a senior at davis and received her scholarship through the first responder children's foundation. they also do community engagement work, financial support, bereavement support. and i'm looking forward to sfpd collaborating with the first responder children's foundation more. and i'm happy to if the chief or director henderson, have anything they wanted to add on that event, chief. thank you. thank you, yeah, the event was a really good event, but this this, foundation is a national foundation. and basically they're set up, as the commissioner said, to assist the children of first responder families. and there was a young lady who spoke last night who was a beneficiary of one of the scholarships. very, very, eloquent and touching speech that she made. but the bottom line is it doesn't cost the city

anything to participate in this service. we do plan to engage with them and it's a very easy, very easy decision to make because it doesn't cost the city anything. basically, these services, including, mental health support for children of first responders, is available, very low threshold in terms of what it takes to get to the services. so it was a it was a good event and a really exciting event. they reached out to us. i think it was about a month or so ago, to see if we would be interested as a department to engage with them. and we do plan to do that. yeah. i was just going to say, and you mentioned it in alluding to it, but i think an important thing about the organization is the underwriting of free or super low cost mental health support for folks, and it's one of the components, particularly for first responders and the children, that i think is

sometimes lacking in a lot of different cities and jurisdictions that don't have those services or can't afford those services. and so i, i'm a strong supporter and glad that they're here and in if i'm not mistaken, 49 of the other states, 49 or 50 of the other states. so i'm glad that they came specifically to san francisco to highlight, the work, the charitable work that they're doing. that, as i said, includes a mental health component that i think is really important. that's all for me. if any member of the public has any public comment regarding item five commission reports, please approach the podium. there is no public comment. line item six presentation and discussion on sfpd strategies for protests relating to israel and palestine at the request of the commission. discussion.

drop all right. good evening, chief scott. acting assistant chief walsh, president. elias. vice president carter oberstein, commissioners and director henderson. and members of the public. my name is will mccarthy. i'm a lieutenant assigned to field operations bureau. i am responsible for and oversee citywide events. i'd also like to say hello. my name is cookie dough. i'm the lieutenant at the department operations center. i oversee mutual aid, more specifically as it pertains to california office of emergency services or cal os. so lieutenant doyle and myself are here this evening to give you a brief overview on mutual aid requests within the city and

county of san francisco and outside law enforcement agencies related to the israeli-palestine conflict in the middle east. on slide two. all right. slide two, provides you with a what the overall mission is for members that are detailed to these types of events. all right. click nex. sorry. yeah, the next slide provides the definitions for step one personnel. step four personnel. and passing calls. these definitions will be will be used in the upcoming slides. all right. there were eight mutual aid requests within the city and county of san francisco and outside agency requests between april 29th and july 18th of 2020 for.

the next slide provides a summary of all the mutual aid deployments within the city and county of san francisco, and outside agency requests, there were no reportable uses of forc, no sfp incident reports generated, and there were no injuries. i would like to i would like to note that in the uc santa cruz deployment, there was an officer that was spit on, that agency, uc santa cruz pd, took that suspect into custody, for spitting on the officer. all right. so i'm going to speak to the mutual aid request within the city and county of san francisco. and lieutenant doe will will talk about the outside agency request in the upcoming

slides. so on april 29th of this year, san francisco state students created an encampment on the lawn area of the sf state property, the initial request from san francisco state university police was 20 officers. step four, as well as some supervisory sergeants from taraval station to assist them with facilitating the first amendment right. san francisco state police soon determined that the event was peaceful and canceled. the step four request, so we demobilized the step four personnel and sent these on duty officers back to their home stations. taraval station then conducted on duty, passing calls from april 29th through may 13th, when the event concluded, i believe at the end of the school year, there was no cost recovery, from san francisco

state for any services that were rendered by the police department on may 18th, uc san francisco parnassus campus, there was a group of individuals that gathered with set up some tents and a plywood barrier, and they were using amplified sound, as well as bullhorns. on may 18th, the uc ucpd requested help with enforcing their california education code that prohibits camping on uc property. uc requested two sergeants and nine officers on overtime. step four from oh four in the morning until zero 600 hours, the responsibility for the department was to provide an outer perimeter security on the public sidewalk, basically allowing protection so that the backs the backs of the uc officers that were dealing with the encampment for their security and safety, there were

no notable incidents reported and no use of force or or incident reports. and that that encampment was demobilized peacefully. and agreeably by the protesters. and at that event there was no cost recovery for that as well. on june 10th and 11, university of san francisco, there was an encampment of protesters and tents set up on an open field on their campus, the only request from usf was passing calls from park station, the usf leadership did not want sfpd uniformed members on their campus. again, there were no notable incident incidents reported, no use of force or no incident reports generated. and again, there was no cost recovery for our services. and then on june 27th at usf again, students who had participated in the protests held a press

conference. passing calls continued by park station. and again, there were no notable incidents reported. no use of force or incident reports generated, and no cost recovery on july 17th and 18th, uc san francisco mission bay had their regents meeting and they requested a support due to previous incidents on some of the uc campuses in the state. their request was three sergeants and 21 officers. they were on duty. they were step four, and they worked from oh 5 to 1600 hours for both days. their mission was they provided traffic control and facilitation. they were on the outer perimeter as well, there were no notable incident reports, no use of force or incidents, and there was cost recovery for the officers services that was built through our fiscal to uc. yep thank you.

will the upcoming slides, i'll discuss the deployments requested through california governor's office of emergency services, i'll begin by highlighting that the california government code, section 8560, emphasizes the importance of cooperation among local agencies during emergencies and disasters. it is it establishes a legal framework that enables government to form mutual aid agreements for effective sharing of resources, personnel and equipment. cal oes divides california into seven law enforcement, mutual aid regions san francisco, belonging to region number two, the region coordinator is out of alameda county. that's okay. i'll go into a little bit of the

protocol that we use at doc department operations center when we receive requests from cal oes department operations center, receives requests from cal oes, the department operations center notifies fob of the request and the type of aid being requested. fob field operations bureau will determine if mutual aid requests can be accomplished. ultimately, it's a command staff decision, and if mutual aid is approved, department operations center will coordinate the necessary deployment of personnel and equipment needed for the nature of the mutual aid request. department operations center will employ the incident command system to document all requests using the appropriate ics. 214 for reimbursement. i'll go into a brief description of the three out of county. requests that

were made to sfpd on april 29th at cal poly humboldt, demonstrators occupied a vacant building on campus campus. police instructed occupants to vacate and was met with violent resistance. campus police did not have adequate resources and requested mutual aid through cal oes, sfpd. staffed one sergeant, ten officers on an overtime basis only hours from 11 1100 hours to midnight on may first, 2024. the disposition was we provided uniform presence, some vehicular and pedestrian traffic control assisted in a skirmish line, a skirmish line a block away where the host agency was enforcing laws and making arrests. support for local police. we supported only for

local police as needed, necessary due to the violent protesters. no, no sfpd incidents, use of force or reports were made. cost recovery was submitted via the ics 214 form. on may 16th, a request for the university of california, santa cruz, a request was made by the host agency for standby, stating that officers were not needed on campus. later on throughout the evening. that request changed as there was significantly more protesters than anticipated and requested mutual aid as soon as possible. sfpd deployed one sergeant, ten officers on duty and into the evening and into overtime. disposition we provided uniformed presence support only for local police, and additional

support was necessary due to the violent protesters. one sfpd officer was spat on and as previously mentioned, ucsc campus police took custody of the perpetrator and handled the case. no use of force or reports were generated. cost recovery was also submitted to cal oes and that is pending. lastly deployment to university of california, berkeley, may 31st, 2024 demonstrators occupied a building, fortified entrances, and vandalized property. ucpd did not have adequate resources and requested mutual aid via cal oes staff deployed with one sergeant, 17 officers on duty with two officers that were on overtime. disposition we provided uniformed presence support only for local police,

and additional support was necessary due to the violent protesters. no sfpd incidents or no use of force reports. cost recovery was also submitted via the ics 214 form. what we have here is just the actual 214 form. it's also known as an activity log. it's a form used within the ics system to document document specific activities. resource management, and provide a viable record when requesting reimbursement. that concludes lieutenant, mccarthy and his presentation. we're open for questions. thank you very much. lieutenant mccarthy and doe, for this presentation, i'd ask for this, you know, earlier when the protests particularly were escalating and we'd seen other campuses throughout the

throughout the nation have violent dispositions to end them. and so i'm glad to see that we did not have any arrests or use of force from sfpd personnel, a couple of questions. i had some general, some incident specific. one is were there any uses that you're aware of, of any physical interactions that wouldn't rise to the level of a reportable use of force? no, i don't believe any of those incidents were were happened. there were no notable uses of force that was brought to our attention. do you know if there were, i know sfpd didn't didn't make any arrests or use of force per here. did they assist in making any arrests at any of the particularly in the out of county? locations there were maybe made by other other, other departments. no as we weren't involved in any use of force incidents out of county. as mentioned, an officer was spat on at uc santa cruz, there

was no reportable use of force at all by any sfpd officer. and yeah, i hope that answered your question. sure. i guess what i'm getting at is if they were if sfpd were like, holding a line, let's say, and there was a protester that was getting aggressive and a member of another agency used a baton or an extended range impact weapon. sfpd was there at the line, but wouldn't didn't participate, would that would that be reportable or show up in an incident report in any way? no, we wouldn't report that, that would be up to the agency using the force to report that. but we still take up our use of force policy when we leave san francisco to outside agencies. so if they were if the officers on the skirmish line were to witness something that needed to be reported, it's within our policy to report that. okay, do you know of any sfpd officers have been called to testify in any of the cases? if they were,

if there were and there were arrests made of some of the student protesters, do you know if any sfpd officers have been called to testify? not that i'm aware of. okay the asterisk for the no injuries was because of the spitting incident, right? that is correct. okay. why is it in some cases, there was no cost recovery. in some cases, there are. who decides whether or not to seek cost recovery? when it's a cal oes event, cal ios will determine if there is a reimbursement, not every deployment guarantees there to be reimbursement. it has to meet the criteria that cal oes decides upon, which i'm not privy to. that portion of it. but it's not. again, it's not guaranteed, i do know that it's

much easier when the state and the federal governments declare it a disaster or an emergency to obtain reimbursement in the three outside agency, request for reimbursement. again, it's still pending, but it'll be up to cal oes to decide if we do, in fact, get reimbursement. chief, do you have something to add to that? let me add to, sorry, let me add to what, lieutenant, do if it's a mutual aid request coming from our regional coordinator, which is alameda county, a rule of thumb is this going to be reimbursable if some of these deployments, like the ucsf ones, they were preplanned events, and that humboldt state was not a preplanned event. it you know, it things started to spiral up there. and then there was a mutual aid request statewide, or at least for this region anyway that went out. those are reimbursable as a rule of thumb, if it's a preplanned event, for

instance, ucsf called us and said, hey, we anticipate there's going to be issues. we need your support, two things can happen, either we if we can afford to do it, send our our personnel, we can do it and cover the cost. or we can try to negotiate reimbursement from them, which we have done on occasion. and if they're willing to pay for it, is that why there was cost recovery for that one? uc the uc regents mission bay one? yes, that was a preplanned event, and we negotiated with them early on because otherwise, you know, we if particularly if we have to deploy people on overtime. so they they agreed to pay that. so usually that conversation happens on preplanned events. just depends on what the need is and whether we can afford to do it or not. on preplanned events, when there is reimbursement. does that include the overtime costs or is it just the base cost? it's overtime. yeah, it's a overtime rate. it fits. in some cases it can be capitalized

to include overhead as well. but usually it's minimum. the overtime rate. and then when there's not cost recovery either because it's not cal oes or for whatever reason, then it's just sfpd bearing that cost. correct? correct. and even with, cal oes typically will not call for mutual aid on a preplanned event. so with apec, we were able to actually get some help from cal oes because just the sheer need of a that level of security event. but typically that doesn't happen, if it's preplanned, it's usually a negotiation process. okay. that's helpful. who determines how many officers get sent on a cal oes? i know at berkeley there were one sergeant, 17 officers. is that is that made by the requesting agency, how does that process work? so they

will ask for what they need and then we have to just make a determination of what we can afford to or who we how many people, whether we can afford to send. so sometimes there's a process of back and forth process there as well. oftentimes they'll ask for a number that we just can't afford to send. so we will tell them, hey, this is what we can send. and is that if that's agreeable, then we'll go ahead and send those resources, those officers, do you or the lieutenants know for the, for the, the, the out of county ones, the breakdown of how much they requested versus what we provided? we're able to provide. i don't have the breakdown of what we request, but in the activity log it each officer fills out an activity log with his, his or her name, resources used, hours spent, and that form gets submitted to cal oes. okay. and i can say this because i don't remember the exact numbers, but i know for the humboldt one and the santa cruz, we could only afford to send. we didn't send what was requested. and it's i mean,

these things are usually fluid, so, the coordinator, depending on some departments, may be able to send more than that. than is requested, others may not. so it's pretty fluid, but at the end of all this, you know, we will let them know this is what we can afford to send. do you want those resources or not? and then if that's a yes, we go ahead and send those officers, i have a specific question about the april 29th, 2024 humboldt deployment. it says that we assisted in the skirmish line from where the host agency was enforcing laws and making arrests. and so even though we were on sfpd, officers were on that skirmish line. there were still no, no use of force or or anything on that skirmish line. that's correct. okay i believe those are all of my questions. thank you so much for the presentation. for members of the public that would like to make public comment regarding line six, please approach the podium.

and there is no public comment. line item seven presentation on dpa's law and justice reform internship summer project 2024 cohort discussion. on this. oh, do you have a powerpoint?

like, since it's the birthday, i feel like we should have had like a celebration, like cupcakes or something, like an elementary school when someone comes in. so we all get a top level secret. yeah. nobody told me anything. i was going to bring champagne if i knew. yeah, well, i got us some old coffee and it's cold. i'm not a i'm not a sweets person, so. yeah oh, that's too bad. and some lobster rolls or something for everybod. he's a piece of gum or somethin. thank you so much, president elias. good evening, president elias. commissioners. happy birthday, chief scott. executive director paul david henderson, missing sergeant reynolds, sergeant youngblood, council madam court reporter. members of

the public. congratulations. miss brown, on the renaming of that street. and my interns out there in the virtual world, as well as my class of summer 2023. michael, who is here. on another note. but i wanted to recognize him because this just goes to show you that we keep popping up and that it includes the diversity pipeline that we have in this city with our summer intern program. my name is netta thompson. i am the director of recruitment and racial equity and senior trial attorney. next time you'll see me with one more title, i can assure you of that, that paul will create. and tonight i am here with natalie garcia, our intern coordinator and public service aide to present to you our summer 2024 svp for law and justice reform internship, summer proposal for dgo 6.16. how fitting that we are here today, commissioner benedicto, that we just started that working group yesterday. i am so proud of these young

people. this presentation you are about to see and the audio and the visuals provided are completely student run. they have done everything this summer. i have had i've had input, but they have created this. they chose the dgo on their own and none of this would again would have been possible without the vision of our executive director, paul henderson, the organization and the kitten herding of natalie garcia, the support from our operations manager, nicole armstrong. policy recommendations support from our director of audit steve flaherty, director of policy jermaine jones, and the audience who lended guiding and supporting hands throughout this process and this summer, our executive staff, our dpa mentor, which each meant which each student was provided throughout the summer so they can help them navigate their personal life and their career paths. the entire dpa staff, our city host sites and partners, our funding partners, and of course, you all

for your continuing and unwavering support of our program. this program grows and grows each year so far since 2019, we have had probably close to 100 interns come through our office, which is amazing every year. we started with 8 in 2019 when i took over, and now we are up to probably about 100 interns that have come through our office. that fifth slide that you see on diversity, the students conducted their own statistics within their program and gathered that data. and as you can see, 71% women, the diversity, half of them were from hbcus. this summer. so actually it was amazing. we actually got to preview this presentation before sharp, the office of sexual assault and assault response prevention before ivy league. during our summer celebration, to kind of preview what we would be presenting and what we know or what we wanted to present, and these students took on a very difficult dgo. it's a lot of you

know, to handle. and when you look at it, you're like, where do we start? and they narrowed it down. they kept their focus. and i believe that you're going to see a great product. i say every year it gets better and better. and each year i'm totally amazed. and i'm so proud of them that i wish i could claim almost a hundred of these kids on my tax returns, because that's what it feels like. so to all my interns out there in the virtual world, know that miss anita, because that's what they call me, because miss anita loves and appreciates you. and again, we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your hard work that you contributed for your professional development, your professional networking, and increasing that diversity pipeline into the cit. miss garcia, there's a new title right there, miss anita. yes. not my skill, but. the volume.

that i was not working. with the audience. oh, i thought they were live. and today we'll be talking about reforming sfpd's dgo 6.16, and we're presenting our thoughts of why this policy should be reformed, as well as suggested reforms. so just to give us an overview of what we're going to be doing, we'll first be giving introductions and the program's overview. then we'll talk a little bit about the current policy and why we should update this policy and then go into our proposed additions. first and foremost, all of us had the amazing opportunity to work with various agencies and also do field trips to these amazing agencies. these are two of the places that we've worked with that we've gotten to go visit. and at the beginning of our internship, we actually introduced ourselves and where we were working to the police commission. these are also our

funding partners. we want to give a huge shout out to all these organizations who made it possible for so many of us to participate in this program by both providing us with, you know, funding. but also housing. as you guys may already know, this is our dpa leadership. we have paul henderson, the executive director, janetta thompson, director of recruitment, and natalie garcia, who's our intern coordinator. and just to give you a little bit more information and background about who our internship cohort is, we are a very diverse class and we're very proud of that. again, we all had the pleasure of introducing ourselves to you earlier this year, but here's just some pictures of all of the undergraduate interns, as well as a law school intern. just to give you a refresher of who we are, how did we get to work with these amazing agencies? but we also got to take place in a lot of or participate in a lot of field trips all across the city, so, for example, worked on professional development with a linkedin workshop, we got to go on a field trip to angel island. we also got to go to chase stadium, which was really cool, we did a know your rights presentation with merrick, so again, just really getting

involved in the san francisco community, and so now kind of shifting gears to what exactly this policy project is and what it's been inspired by, our book has, is inspired by the book biased, by doctor jennifer l eberhardt. and this book, we kind of all read in small groups together, had a lot of time to discuss what this book talked about. a lot of the book focused on themes of, you know, prejudice and bias, especially you know, how the bias that we have, especially implicit bias, can shape the things that we do think, and see without even realizing it. and so inspired by this book, we thought a really great way to kind of approach this t.g.o that we want to reform was thinking about the ways that consistency testing case follow through all these different methods of standardization could kind of eliminate, bias within the sexual like sexual assault reporting and sexual assault investigation process. so it's

really clear to see why this work matters. when we study the statistics that are available, from the national sexual violence resource center and also just statistics of san francisco residents regarding their reports of sexual assault and child abuse to police. so, for example, we see that rape is the most underreported crime, which as a stand alone fact is very alarming. but also that only 12% of child sexual abuse is reported to the authorities and 63% of sexual assaults are not reported to the authorities. so those are all statistics taken from the national sexual violence resource center and also, separately in san francisco in 2016, out of 694 reports of adult sexual assault, only 43% were investigated and out of 1.6% of adult and child sexual assault cases that went to trial, 1.3% were actually, have actually had the results of a guilty verdict, which all goes to show, how difficult it can be not only to report rape, but

also to investigate it, which is why we should give great care to the very few cases of rape and child abuse that are actually being reported. so currently the dgo has not been revised since 2008. so that's over ten years. and largely the dgo is just concerned with the unit responsibilities and notifications. hospital admittance for adults and juveniles remain rudimentary. testing protocols and incident reporting. and our proposed additions are that there needs to be mandatory incident follow ups for all cases, broader testing protocols and transportation options for survivors. our first policy recommendation is a mandatory survivor follow up interview, wherein officers must follow up with survivors following medical and forensic examinations. we also included a stipulation that survivors do have the option to opt out if they're not feeling comfortable or something is wrong, this policy will be triggered when the medical examinations are finished and

the person is at the hospital and the officers need to gather testimony from the survivor. any available officers or personnel will be assigned to this task, and this part of the policy should apply when a policy can be reasonably abided by medical examinations. the reason that we chose to add this stipulation as a part of our policy proposal is because we've seen it many times in other cities in california and other dpos such as bakersfield, long beach, los angeles. they're all listed at the bottom of this slide. our second policy proposal has to do with how the survivor is transported following their reporting in the police car. this could be either from their reporting location to the hospital or to the police station. and this would ensure that victims had the discretion when it came to their own comfortability in the reporting process. they could either sit in the front of the patrol car, which would avoid further victimization and ensure that the survivor did not feel like a

defendant. by sitting in the back of the patrol car, or if they would be more comfortable to sit in the back to avoid unnecessary contact with the officer. we wanted to give them that option as well. the dgo that we referenced here is within san diego's dgo and this would ensure that survivors had more discretion and more choices over how they would best feel comfortable following such a traumatic event. our third and last policy proposal has to do with date rape, drug testing. following an incident where survivor suspects that they had been drugged during the incident, symptoms of drugging include extreme intoxication, brain fog, lack of memory, difficulty controlling their own bodies, and if an officer is being reported, these symptoms, it would be their job to recommend or highly encourage the survivor to be drug tested

in order to, ensure that their drug date rape drug suspicions could be either confirmed or denied. we listed a few different parameters for when the report was taken after the incident, as certain drugs move through the system in certain ways and there are a variety of different drugs that we've tried to address that are used for date rape, drug drugging, involuntary date rape, drugging that we wanted to address and make sure that survivors could get the testing to either rule that out or use that as possible evidence. this we referenced through the santa monica, dgo, as well as the national institute of justice, and we also wanted to include this following san francisco's recent move to have bars have date rape, drug tests for drinks in

bars. this would be a following policy that would ensure that survivors could have a little bit more peace of mind. we wanted to go a little bit further into the dgos that we were inspired by, or pulled from for mandatory survivor follow up interviews, we have listed specific dgos that directly reference survivor follow up interviews, and for mandatory drug testing, we listed dgos that referenced drug testing, but our our specific date rape drug testing dgo is the first of its kind to be specific in language addressing this very specific problem to san francisco. and we looked for best practice overall throughout all of the state of california, which is why we have such a robust list. thank you guys so much for following along with our presentation. we really hope you take our suggestions to

heart, and we also look forward to checking in and following up with you guys to see how this recommendation goes. if you guys have any questions about what we, have proposed, please feel free to let us know and she can forward any information to us. and these are the sources that we've used. they're provided on the pdf of this slide show. so hopefully you guys can reference what we said here. and we hope you guys have a great rest of your day. hey, miss gabriela olavarria and. today that's it. thank you. we appreciate that. that's a great presentation. so sad that we missed the interns. i understand they're back at school. they were back in school. i remember when you first introduced them and they all came here wearing their, sweaters. right? their alma mater sweaters. and, it was great to see him. i think you do

a phenomenal job, as always with the interns. we always get positive feedback, and it's very interesting to see what they work on while they're with you and other agencies within san francisco. during their time here. so thank you for making that investment. and i appreciate it. i want to turn it over to director henderson. yeah, i want to thank the commission for allowing the interns to come and play a role here. honestly, that introduction, when they come at the beginning of the summer and they get to say their names and bnsf, it's a big deal to them. and they talk about how important it is to introduce themselves to you. and i appreciate that. i just wanted to mention briefly tonight, as you already know, miss tonita, as you already know, does a fantastic job in working with all of the interns and fellows and pulling the program together. it takes all year. we see them during the summer, but literally she and natalie are in the middle of it right now,

coordinating for the fall. so i just want to acknowledge how much work goes into preparing a program and the wonderful presentation that you guys get to see. i will say, one of the things that really stands out to me is how diverse the class is. and by diverse that includes age, sexual orientation, race and gender. for the class of folks that get this experience. and i think it's really important having that level of diversity in the work that we all bring to the table, i think, elevates the outcome because it allows us to take a look at the things that we're used to dealing with and handling in a different way. and so we can step aside from the presumptive roles involved in the policymaking for suspects, defendants, victims officers, as well, with a fresh look that gives us really strong ideas, as you've heard from the policies that they present beyond just the best practices that they find outside of our own

jurisdictions to try and incorporate into the work that they do. and so i just want to commend, the folks that participated in the program this year. but i also wanted to commend the staff and the folks that put the program together and thank them once again, not just for putting the presentation together, but for working. so hard all during the year to make sure that that program is successful, that they have great experiences and they produce this high quality level. i will say, i know i said it before, but this year really was the best presentation and within the time limit that was made. miss panetta didn't play. yes, miss panetta had it together, but it really was a strong program. and it's an award winning program. we get folks that want to come here from all over the country to gain these experiences, not just with civilian oversight, but with public safety in general. and there's not a lot of programs that offer that type of experience like that. so thank

you so much for your time and for the presentation. i also think it's worth mentioning that not only do you have interns that come in and they get exposure to different agencies and different things that different agencies here in san francisco do, but i think that you do a great job. mr. panetta, of actually teaching these interns life skills, because i don't think that people realize that you know, you see interns and they don't have skills like how to dress for interviews, how to speak in public, like public speaking is a huge thing. and obviously you are very good at it. and i attribute that to your many years as a district attorney, but those are fundamental skills that you know, we as commissioners see people before us who don't have some of those skills. so it's really refreshing that you not only show them and expose them to different things, but teach them fundamentals, which i think are really important will serve them, exponentially later on. so great job and thank you, commissioner benedicto. yes, thank you so much for that presentation. i mean, it's always a highlight of my summer

when i get to speak to the interns as well. i'll try not to take it personally that i didn't make their favorite encounters list. at least you got an invite. and we don't even get invited to speak to intern. i don't know what that's about. i think this is the second or third year in a row that the intern presentation has related to a geo that is actively in progress, and i feel like the intern presentation is always good luck to that. geo, because the last couple of years that geo has gone on to be passed foot pursuits a number of years ago, and that was obviously passed. so hopefully this will be winning the sales of geo 6.16 as well. as i mentioned in my report, we're currently actively in that working group. i would ask that you forward the presentation materials, including the and any supplementary materials to the policy development team, to miss steeves and to mr. bussey to. they can be included in the working group materials. i also think if you want to send me an email, we can it might be worth showing this presentation. it's short and efficient, showing this presentation at one of the working group meetings, so if you want to connect with me, i

think that's that's worth considering. as well. additionally, i think some of the stuff particularly like the follow up interview, might be outside the scope of the geo. it might belong somewhere else. i think it's possible that would fall. it might be a good use of the office of victims and witness rights, so you might want to consider sending the presentation to the office of victim and witness rights to see if they might pick up some of the proposals, even if they don't end up in the final geo. that's all. thank you, thank you, thank you again. thank you so much. we are very appreciative of you all, thank you, president elias, for those kind remarks, you know, we go way back. i just and because we have been interns before, we don't want them to have that trial by fire experience, necessarily. so i just try to instill in them what we would want to see and that this is you know, you're starting your careers with us. and so that's what we try to instill that professional development. i've said it ad nauseam this summer. it's drilled in them. michael knows in the audience. that's all i care. you know, we want professional development and i

think it has carried over, you know, with all of these things. so he's in a suit and tie. so yes. oh yes. and the dress for success business attire business casual. we're going to differentiate and let you know what is appropriate. thank you. thank you. so much. any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item seven. please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item eight discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 5.03. investigative detentions. discussion and possible action. good evening, captain perdomo from the training division here to talk about the training plan for geo 503. so feel free to interrupt me at any time. but this geo has many things that need to be trained on. for one, the certificate of release. we're planning to release a department notice. we're going to insert slides into our cpt program for our legal updates

portion of the course. we're also going to add changes to the department forms. so would the commission like to discuss any of those trainings? no. proceed. okay so the other big portion of this is also documenting via bwc. we're going to do that also by a department notice. we'll also include training on our cpt cycle. and we're also going to consider creating a video delineating how the officer should deliver the scripted transcripts that we intend to create from the i that will be downloaded from the bwc into the report. what do you mean, like the scripted videos of what what they have to say in their bwc when they take these reports? yes, because axon has products that will then transcribe what the officer reads from the script into the report. so when those changes come in the future, we'll have a preprinted script ready for that so the officer won't have to read it

into it. it'll automatically be inserted. no, they will read it into it. it will be recorded on audio. and then when axon develops the artificial intelligence to then transcribe it, it can be input into a police report. okay. instead of the i guess i'm confused because isn't the 503. the correction is that they will articulate the facts into the body worn camera for the basis. that's correct. they'll put the basis onto the body worn camera and then in the future, when the ai will then be able to transcribe it, they can insert it into an incident report. so this is software that axon is currently working on. and the way that we're going to create the script that they'll read off the phone should then transcribe into an incident report in the future, so they won't have to type it themselve. okay. yes okay. yeah. okay. okay okay. got it. so you can kind of think of it a cut and paste. yeah that's what i was concerned about okay. so with the training we're considering looking

forward into the future. so it would be like dictation. so for example you could dictate something and then artificial intelligence right. like something like chatgpt for example. it's copyrighted product but that would then put it into sentences. right. and those sentences could then be put into a report. so although it would summarize what the witness statement would be, for example, or what the officer would say is justification and put that into a police report. so axon is currently creating on creating those products, and we hope to maybe someday purchase them in the future. so we're looking to create scripts that would then look like they could be put into an incident report. okay that sounds good. yeah. sorry if i was unclear. oh no. no you were clear. i just wasn't following for okay, sorry about that. that's okay. there's a lot of stuff that axon is creating. recently, there was something at stanford that had to do with artificial intelligence. so we're looking to create scripts that would then streamline this process in the spirit of proppy. so yeah they have to learn how to understand what's being said in order to make that script

because there's so many meanings which someone said something that they're having problems with artificial intelligence like the lawyer makes a brief, but the understanding is this means this, but this means this. but they can be two different meanings. so you're building up for the intelligence to understand and be able to transfer that later on in the future. correct. and that's where training videos in the future would help, because the ai would create the narrative, i suppose, or the witness statement. and then the officer would then have to review the statement to make sure it's actually accurate with what the witness said, because sometimes a witness may say something, and if the artificial intelligence construes it a different way, that would be inaccurate. and you're always on the hook for what you put in your police report. so that would be part of the training that we foresee happening in the future. great. that's a great that's a little clearer. yeah okay. sorry about that. no i like that clarification. and those are all changes that we see because the bwc, dgo itself has to be amended. so we have to consider

all of these things going into the future, how we will use this and then how many days for training. because the other question i have before you answer that is last. i think it was last week we had talked about having trainings with dpa regarding fourth amendment violations, which this dgo covers. so is that going to be incorporated in the training schedule that you have set for rolling this out, or is that going to be something parallel. so i was just informed about working with dpa on fourth amendment issues. so when the official request comes from the police commission, i believe it's a form sergeant youngblood would know as soon as we get the request, we'll speak to our administration and then we'll work together to flesh out what the training would look like with respect to the fourth amendment issues. but what with regard to what we're doing here, the certificate of release is fairly straightforward, and what's written into the dgo is state law. so there's not much to work with in the sense of like a fourth amendment training with regard to that right, with

the bwc portion, where you'd have to articulate, we would then work together and talk about maybe, perhaps reasonable suspicion, articulable facts and circumstances and things like that. the certificate of release isn't the issue. i think it's the fourth amendment search and seizure portions of the dgo, which need to be, i think, fleshed out more. yeah. did you. yeah. so the working with dpa piece that that will happen. we got to flesh out what that actually entails. so but that will happen in terms of, i mean, we don't necessarily need the request you've already directed. the commission has already directed us to do it. so we just have to build it. so it's not going to be implemented into the request in terms of number of days to get this one implemented. it's going to be a parallel. it'd be parallel, right. so okay, so how many days do you want, 45 days would be fine for this. any questions. can i get a motion. motion to approve. second, any member of the public that would like to

make public comment regarding line item eight, please approach the podium. there's no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes commissioner walker. yes, commissioner walker is yes. commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is yes. commissioner yanez. yes. commissioner says yes. commissioner yi. yes. commissioner yi is yes. vice president carter overstone. no. vice president carter is no. and president elias. yes. president elias is. yes. you have six yeses. line item nine. discussion and possible action to adopt revised department. general order 5.05, emergency response and pursuit driving discussion and possible action. okay, for this one? there are several things that touch on training. some of them are the responsibility of the training division and some of those other parts will have to be covered by other units. so we'll start off with what the training division will handle. so for the pursuit authorization portion. and that's a050505 a1, we are going to incorporate that into our cpt

cycle. we're also going to release a department notice for this one. we're going to have to create a video explaining to the members, when a pursuit should be initiated or shall be initiated. and the criteria for example, this is a pretty big change in our policy, to authorize pursuits for all felonies and then violent misdemeanors. so we contemplate explaining to the members what a violent misdemeanor would be, we noticed when we were reading the language that it follows the crime of violence definition. that's in the united states code, which would include something that would be an attempt to use force or force that was used. so we'd have to look through various misdemeanor crimes and address questions from members relating to which particular misdemeanors they should be initiating. a pursuit on, and which ones are are off the table. so for example, like brandishing, that doesn't necessarily fall within the definition of a crime of violence. since it doesn't include an assault of acts. so

we would have to flesh out those small distinctions like 417 a1 417 a2, things that would commonly come up with our members. so that's what we anticipate talking about on the video. and then of course, we'll do role training, where the sergeant will then have to deliver the information and engage in some question and answer at all lineups. so we anticipate doing that for our tire deflation devices. so far we've had stop stick training. stop sticks are a relatively new tool that we have. we've trained 300 members so far. we've also talked about preemptive deployment of stop sticks, and that's governed by a department notice that was issued. i think it was last year. and that's limited to specific units that have that training that's put on by the field tactics and force options unit, as well as our evoc, other changes to this dgo are the vct training that's going to be limited, limited to specialized units. right now, the technical services unit is responsible for that training, and they're receiving ongoing training, and they're the only

members that will be authorized as of right now in my speaking with one of the sergeants in that unit, that will be authorized by the chief of police to use that particular type of technique, they've been trained by los angeles police department, and they anticipate taking training later this month with modesto police department and then there's the uav portion of this dgo for the for the commission meeting that occurred two weeks ago. we contemplate using uavs to aid our pursuits. however, there does there does need to be special authorization to use it out of line of sight. and i believe that is what lieutenant mcguire is looking into to receive approval, to have that non out of sight, regulation approved and then they can use that in aid of pursuits. so that training i, i anticipate that will be handled by those units that handle that. so that's all i have right now for dgo 505. thank you for that overview. just two questions.

how who will be making the decision about how to define violent misdemeanor, given that it is undefined in the california state law? well, it's defined within the policy. and we have to work within the parameters of the policy and the policy. as i read it, it was the use of force or the attempted use of force. and i think that is what would qualify it as a violent misdemeanor under the policy. and i do agree with you. it's not defined by state law as certain, like serious crimes or violent crimes would or violent felonies would under the penal code. great. thank you. and then the other thing i think i heard you say that preemptive, preemptive use of stop sticks is governed by department notice. did i catch that? right? correct. yes that's correct. and i seem to have recalled that we, well, we passed a resolution and then 5.05 was subsequently amended to allow preemptive use of. and now i'm forgetting the global term that we use that includes things like spike strips and other devices to impair the movement of a

vehicle. tire deflation devices. yes. right okay. yeah. so yeah. so why why is that covered by department notice versus not just covered by the dgo. the dgo as it stands right now. and the way i understand it on the commission website have the changes in red. and i don't see that here, but i thought i would address it here since it may come up, but that training is ongoing. per the department notice and per the resolution of this commission. i think the change we made was to 5.01 to authorize tdd and not to 5.05, as i recall. so maybe this is reflecting that also here. gotcha. okay. that makes sense. and the way it's noted here, commissioner, just to help you out, it says defensive use. right. i think it's rather than offensive use, which was i guess would be preemptive, which would be covered by a separate. yeah. okay. thank you. seeing no other questions, i'll make a motion to. oh well first we should ask how how long do you need for 45 days, please. 45 days. okay. so i'll make a motion to adopt the dgo with 45 business days to

implement training. second. any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item nine. please approach the podium and there is no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes commissioner clay is. yes. commissioner. walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes. commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is yes. commissioner yanez. yes commissioner yanez is yes. commissioner yi. yes. commissioner yi is yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter is. yes. and president elias. yes. and president elias is. yes. you have seven yeses. line item ten. public comment on all matters pertaining to item 12 below. closed session, including public comment on item 11, a vote whether to hold item 12 in closed session. if you would like to make a public comment regarding closed session, please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item 11. vote on whether to hold item 12 in closed session. san francisco administrative code

section 67.10 d action motion to hold item 12 in closed session. second on the motion, commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner. walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes. commissioner. benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is yes. commissioner yanez. yes. mr. yanez is. yes. commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is. yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter is. yes. and president elias. yes. president elias is. yes. we are going yeah all right, commissioners, we are back in open session on line item 13, vote to elect. whether to disclose any or all discussion on item 12, held in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.12. a action motion not to disclose. second, any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 13. please approach the podium. seeing none. commissioner clay, how do you vote on the motion? yes. mr. clay is. yes, commissioner walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes, commissioner benedicto. yes. commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner. yanez. yes. mr. jones is. yes. commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is.

yes. vice president carter. overstone. yes. vice president carter oberstein is. yes. and president elias. yes. okay. president lyons is. yes. you have seven yeses. line item 14. adjournment. i don't know. we'll take pictures. okay. happy birthday, sir. thank you. i kno, >> come shop dine and play. taraval street is open for business. >> my name is mark recollect

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welcome to the august 9th, 2024 regular meeting of the san francisco ethics commission. today's meeting is live cablecast on sfgovtv two and live streamed online at sfgovtv. org slash ethics live for public comment. members of the public may attend in person or may participate by phone or the webex platform, as explained in our agenda document. clerk can you please explain how our remote public comment will be handled? public comment will be available on each item on this agenda. each member of the public will be allowed three minutes to speak. for those attending in person, opportunities to speak during the public comment period will be made available here in room 400, city hall. for those attending remotely, public comment