francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. it's the heartbeat of san francisco that founded the cable and the s and without the cable cars, yeah, we would lose something in san francisco. we would lose part of its heart and soul. it wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing] >> tonight's forum is a great opportunity to learn about the candidates before you vote, so let's get started. i want to invite you all to make opening statements. we go in reverse alphabetical order by first name. danny you will start and you get 60 seconds. the time keeper is right there.

you see her? okay. excellent. >> okay. good evening everyone. my name is danny sauter, i lived in district 3 for the past 10 years with my wife and over those last 10 years at every turn i looked for ways to serve our community. started with serving as the president of north beach neighbors where i have effort on thing to ad farmer market, fill up empty store fronts, organize monthly cleanups and start a restaurant delivery. i know public safety is on all our minegds. mind. that is why i work to organize town hall with district attorney, police walks with our captain at central station. i'm the only candidate in this race endorsed by the san francisco democratic party. i'm also proud to have support from organizations including the sierra club, the chinese american democratic club and more then 60 other community organizations, community

leaders and labor unions and i look forward to our conversation tonight. thanks. >> hello everyone, my name is eduardo navarro and come from architecture and finance. i think we need to unit and defend san francisco. our boarders go beyond our local issues into national and international issues. my background is very appropriate for knowing how to build 82 thousand units of housing in the city without resorting to skyscrapers and messing up neighborhoods. background in finance [indiscernible] is something i'm used to dealing with large bureaucracies and being able to be effective in that space. i have been here 2 and a half years. i met my boyfriend one week being here and very exciting city because the most open city and ever lived in. i lived in many cities around the world and san francisco values we have to cherish and defend. i look forward answering the

questions tonight and thanks for being here. >> good evening everyone. my name is matt susk, a third generation san franciscan, a former small business owner and running for the board of supervisors because san franciscans deserve safe streets, thriving businesses, and government accountability. impolk not a career politician, i'm a business man who loves my home town. grown up in district 3, i understand san francisco's unique culture and it's unique challenges. my appointments campaigned on defupding the police. supporting a cop tax and fought to keep affordal grocery stores out of our naerbd said. neighborhoods. they tried and failed with the same old incider play books. it is time for a outcider perspective. i believe in public safety, cutting costs and investing in the local economy. endorsed by the san francisco police officer association and spent

the past decade in the private sector advisor government pension plans starting a small business in san francisco and helping thousands of families achieve the dream of home ownership. >> good evening everyone. my name is moe jamil, a 22 resident of san francisco. like to give a shout out to my wife annie and two children oliver and kate watching at home. i love you and be back soon. my father came to the country in 1966 as a immigrant from jordan and started as a busebecame a carperenter with my mother started a small business and they had a dream i would be the first person in my family to go to college and that is what i did through the gracious of cal grants. [indiscernible] law graduate, i made my way to the san francisco city attorney's office, serving under our

city attorney david coup. chui. also been a 10 year neighborhood organizer. been active member of the telegraph graph hillers and north beach neighbors. i love this city and i ask for your vote. thank you. >> hi, thank you for being here. sharon lu, i'm a immigrant and grew up in public housing and came to san francisco at 16. the district and i are have made san francisco my chosen home for my entire adulthood. my heart is always public service and my very first veer in san francisco was to be a city planner. i served the city for over 15 years in public service and have made this my home for 19 years. i believe that san francisco right now is really important that we have competent and balanced

representation. that means we need people who are from and have the expertise from the public, private and non profit sectors which i have. i advanced public safety on muni. i have worked to advance thousands of units of housing, all income levels and believe when we build the protections to advance the middle class as well as keeping working families in san francisco, that is how we get to resilient place. thank you. >> good evening. my name is wendy ha chau, i have been a resident of san francisco for two decades and i have been a resident of dist rict 3 for 16 years. the reason that is important, i have deep understanding what the community needs. i have seen a lot of crazy stuff in lower nob hill that effect all of us, and you know, the understanding

that these policies shape how the i'm-because of the crime rise and homelessness, the government's responsibility is to serve and protect the public by creating and enforcing law, insuring safety and providing essential services. the elected officials failed us. they failed because of the policies that they have. my professional background and i'm a civil rights attorney. i have experience in administrative and constitutional law that will-that i have--sorry. >> thank you very much. will get started with our first question nowment. . the very first question is how will you balance working with other district supervisors to meet the needs of the city while also meeting the needs of district 3? >> i think that is a easy question. as a entrepreneur, i have

always run my own show and you have to be quite resourceful and creative bringing people together to get things done. i think with board of 11 plus a mayor, plus a very extensive ordinance and code, i think one has to have capacity to be able to keep the end goal in mind and be able to harness the resources and coalitions you need to get things done. that is something that's been my entire life, so that is how i would get that done. >> excellent. the next person is matthew. >> yes, i think it is extremely important that we figure out a way to get a majority on the board of supervisors that is pragmatic, that want to see real results. as a outcider, i have been able to build relationships with candidates in other districts across the city and i think that is paramount. we make sure new people come in, out ciders come in and see the chaimpg. i have been able to support

candidates across the city and i ask all of you to make sure to go out and see who is running in other districts, because it does matter. as we write ordinances in the city and legislate in the city that effects everyone. it is making sure that moderate voices come together across this city to make sure that we are able to see that change. >> alright. moe. >> i commit first to pleng pledge to the residents of the district. i ask for your support, because i will have your back at every turn. if you live in this district and run a small business in the district it is my job to be your chief advocate at city hall. i'm well aware of other districts and supervisors and i will build coalitions with them. there is going to be supervisors we agree with, particularly on protecting and preserving our neighborhoods and there will be supervisors i

disagree with and there will be times to go to the mat to fight for you. there will be other times where we are able to build consensus across the board and i will work for that, but i'll tell you one thing i will never sell out the constituents of this district. >> sharon. >> i have worked to advocate for our community for close to 20 years in san francisco, including fighting against big tobacco making sure that we are building affordable housing and are fighting for funding for our public transportation system. my track record to advocate for your interest ñ[for workfamilies and middle class in the city is very clear. having said that, one legislator can not pass laws on the board. there are 11. i'm the only candidate in the race that received endorsement from 8 of other supervisors. thtime, that is

impossible. they themselves dont agree with one another , but it is important to elect leadership to work. that is how i will be effective for you on day one because i know how to collaborate and convene and that is sensible leadership we need this moment of termile in our city. thank you. >> i want to let you know that, you guys would be my number one, because i have always advocate for people because i'm a civil rights attorney. the people that i serve and protect are people that i represent. as a attorney, i do mediation and so i work with the other opposing sides and we come to resolution. not everyone will be happy, but we come to a solution that makes sense for everyone. and so, when i get elected i

will work and create a relation ship with other district supervisors to work together to get things done. >> first, i think there is too much toxicity in san francisco politics. we need to turn down the temperature and focus on results for the neighborhood indead of so much fighting. district 3 is my first priority , but there is so much work involving collaborating with other district said. an example so close, finishing the central subway and get to north beach and fisherman's wharf. it will take relationships with other folks not only on the board of supervisors to do that, but in a case like this, leaders from the state level and our federal level, that is the sort of leadership i bring to this office as a 10 year community organizers these

neighborhoods, focused on the results. there is already too much that. >> we will now move to our next question. we'll start with you matt. the san francisco department of the environment climate action plan calls for cutting net carbon emission to zero by 2040. one goal of the climate action plan is make 80 percent all trips low carbon by 2030 and that means walking, biking and public transit and also including things like cars. if you are elected, what is your plan to make local and regional transit more efficient, increase ridership and close the funding gap san francisco is facing. that is big question. >> there is a lot there. so, great question. i think we need continue to push forward towards a net zero carbon footprint in the city and one thing for me when i disagree with some of

my fellow opponents, i don't think we should extend the stwrl subway. i think it is something we should invest long-term, but now it is irresponsible to say we extend it. we do not have the budget to do so. we are headed into a deficit and cannot do that now. what we should do is expand the bus network. buses spend $400 thousand and put on the streets week. profitable quickly. we need to make sure people are paying fair share on the buses rchlt i have collin veers thatd are high schoolers to come out to district 3 and tell me, they see people smoke fentanyl and with knives on the buses. we need to make sure the bus system is clean and safe so everyone can use it. thanks. >> moe. >> i'm a proud supporter of prop l on the ballot and that will give

more by taxing uber and lyft to pay their fair share to fund the public transit system. getting closer to the goal of making muni free for more people. i start with free muni central city zone and continue to improve ridership, we should look for financial ways to make it free for the city. also, i think it is really important to include the community process in these types of decisions. if we will have bike lanes coming down through north beach and our neighborhoods, we need to make sure the community and local businesses are involved in the discussion. we can make every form of transit better, but we dont do it by pitting people against each other. >> thank you. sharon. >> so, i am-the only candidate that worked in climate is my most recent job and reducing carbon from trips

are very important, but so is removing carbon from buildings. that is one of the big est tributors. i am someone who served as your commission on the sf mta and joined the mta a couple years ago because i was attacked on muni. the main 3 things to improve ridership and make sure more people ride public transportation, make it safer, effective essentially. i lead the go bond measure two years to try to help fund our transportation. it failed by 1 and a half percent. we need to fullyp fund the publong transportation system. i also advocated to bring back community bus lines that serve our community, because the travel patterns have changed and we have to the needs of our community. >> wendy. >> i agree with a loof all

the candidates ahead of ■/me about the topic, but also i believe the riders should also start paying their share and the bus share instead of going on the bus for free. >> danny. >> so, public transportation is one of our most effective responses to climate crisis. 45 percent of emissions in san francisco come from private vehicles. we do need to make it more attractive to get around the city without a car. i touched on a ambisish to do that, extending the central subway. that will take time but it is something the community deserves. how we can do more quickly and cost effective is expand the rapid bus lans. we have a project on van ness, too long and too expensives, but it

gives a glimmer what could be if we have more bus lanes throughout san francisco. that project, the mistakes aside is working fantastic. it increased ridership by 40 percent. that line is 40 percent faster. we know we have seen on every line both in san francisco and around the world when we make buses faster, more people take them and creates more complete communities. that would be my focus. >> i think transit we need to change the paradigm and think how we think public transit. it isn't the opposite and the alternate of a car. reaching net zero emissions generally for anything we should be ambitious because we are san francisco. the bed of invasion and leaders in the world for some of these things. when we talk about transit, we should think about transit in a regional way. we should think about the entire bay area and how the transit network can actually function one all the townships.

locally, i think we have to work with many other components that say, why should we think of transit as the negative. there are many systems european systems where buses are more attractive options, sometimes the metro is more attractive. having the competition allows a hybrid and open possibility. >> thank you. i will start with moe. giving a heads up. so, this is by mandate, san francisco needs to build roughly 82 thousand housing units by 2031. how many units do you think will be in district 3? how many would be affordable housing versus market rate? how will you build a plan that includes families and working class people in your plans for affordable housing? >> i firmly believe in local control when it comes to housing decisions.

82 thousand units, 52 thousand of which have to be below market rate is a aspirational goal set by the state. san francisco for decades has built about 2 thousand units a year and if they had done the right with community input and community process. truth is, we have an affordability crisis. we need to focus on investing affordable housing and the best affordable housing is the housing we have and that is rent control. there are plenty places to build in district 3. you can build up lim bardies. been calling for 10 years to turn that into housing. build downtown and turn office buildsings into housing and plenty small sites to build without destroying the character of our community, because we don't need fantana towers on the waterfront and that is what the state representatives are laying the

path for. >> so, as a former urban planner and someone who delivered housing in san francisco at all income levels, i deeply appreciate the struggle it is currently under the market conditions to actually gets projects approved to be conducted. now it is not actually about the regulation of approval because we have 70 thousand units approved in the pipeline but allowing the projects to continue. i agree with some of the citations moe made. i think it is really important we continue to leverage public land, including the kirkland bus, which i went to on a press conference encouraging mta to use it to be redeveloped as a new bus yard, but also as housing. that is what i push for on the potrero bus yard a couple years ago. we need to continue to work converting our empty vacant downtown office spaces into housing. not every building is suited for that. i have done that work before.

it is very complex, but i'm the person who can provide the expertise to lead us into that type of conversion and excited to do it for all of us. thank you. >> i have a different take from the rest of the candidates. mine is, san francisco has $19 billion in land and assets and i will build hundred thousand units in a 60 story beautiful apartment building built by public works and other department capable building these high rises. no contract is needed and no developer is need ed. these units will be rented for 500-1500 dollars depending on is the bedrooms. it is for to employees and 3400 people and another 2500 will go to workers such as grocery small businesses and services industry workers, and 40 thousand units rented at 350

and $400 to seniors, veterans, disabled peop it is cheap because it is owned by the government. also, it will flood the market with a lot of low income housing so that drops the rate of rent. >> danny. >> district 3 is already the densest part of san francisco, but that doesn't absolve from doing more. in the neighborhood we know character and density go hand in hand. i think they thrive with one another. we see that in the neighborhoods of district 3. the good news we have plenty space to do it. it won't take high raises it takes building empty parking lots, building like bum bardy sports and tower annex and columbus. it will take the retail vacancy, some of the largest retail vacancy in all san francisco at the wharf that can be housing and empty office

buildings all can be housing and about family units, we need 2, 3, 4 bedrooms in district 3. the cost of live is too high, but if you have the means so many families to have move out because there isn't the space. i introduce a family special use district that says can have additional density if you have priority homes for seniors and families in the district. >> i think we should be moir ambitious. we have tools to deal with what we want to protect and allow what we want to have. interest is a way of building much housing without resorting to skyscrapers. i give paris as a example. we are smaller then or bigger then paris. we have paris has three times the density and not had to resort to the skyscrapers. they messed up once 1970 the

best joke is the best view is the top of the tower. i call for design framework. i think it would be very exciting for all of us to par ticipate what the city should look like. we shouldn't be arbitrary. allowing it to be the city we want to be. we can have a beautiful city, continue to be more beautiful with what we do. >> you guys are getting the order thing. that dist rth 3 the densest district in the city, i think it is the district that has the most character in the city and think most people agree with that. we have wonderful restaurants and shops and local retail and i think it is a shining example other districts can follow. we can have density and have character that go hand in hand. that being said, i think district 3 can add housing units.

my opponentss talked downtown, office to residential is great way to add units. we can look at philadelphia and dc. they offered tax abatements and modernized the building and fire code to make sure the transitions are easier and i think that is a great place to start. i also think we should be building in fisherman's wharf and think it should be a place where families can live, adding 3, 4 units there so families can stay and don't need to leave that is a area san francisco left families behind in housing and education. >> alright. thank you. our next question is going to go to sharon first. giver you a heads up. a factor in addressing homelessness in san francisco is preventing people becoming unhoused in the first place. what kind of protections, programs or policies do you support to keep people in their homes? >> thank you for asking that question.

i am very proudly endorsed by the san francisco tenant union as well as community tenants association. i myself grew up with a lot of housing insecurity and without stable housing there is a lot else in your life that won't go well. so, yes, anti-displacement policy is the first and most important step for us to actually stop the housing-homelessness crisis, which is housing problem. one thing that i think the city can do more on is actually providing education to tenants, funding that because now a lot of tenants protection education is actually done through volunteers. we have an absolute responsibility to make sure that everybody understands their rights and make sure that we are advocating for rent control. i also say, i'm somebody who started a homeless housing non profit during the pandemic to try to stop chronic homelessness and happy to share more about that later.

thank you. >> thank you. wendy. >> can you repeat the question? >> a factor in addressing homelessness in san francisco is preventing people becoming unhoused in the first place. what protections, programs or policies do you support to keep people in their homes? >> i support the program where the city provides a attorney for tenants so they can be against the landlords, because the landlord has all the money and the tenant doesn't so that helps safeguard tenants rights, but also provide more services to tenants where they can get you know, information about other housing needs and assistance. >> keeping people housed is a

veer smart investment. it sometimes takes hundreds of dollars to keep someone in their home rather then 10 of thous. thousands. i support emergency rental vouchers to supporting tenant lawyers rchlt our city passed prop f to fund tenant lawyers but it is never fully funded. so important in district 3 in chinatown with so many families and seniors in sro and many are in sro without master leases. that is important to make sure we support organizations like sro collaboratives. we have relationships with those seniors, with the families and sro supporting them, making sure they have a fair shot against their landlords. that is the work i want to do and say as someone a 10 year tenant of district 3 and endorsed by the california democratic representers council.

>> i think this is reason i love san francisco. i think the idea is right. i don't think anybody in this panel would be against protecting people from being evicted from their house. a lot is about knowing the rights that are already in place and that have been within master leases or otherwise been enacted to protect people from taken out of houses. beyond that, there are other programs and we could be creative coming with ideas:pass-through ownership. in europe and spain being quite familiar to me, it went from 80 percent tenant in the 1920 to 80 percent ownership country, the highest in europe. that is another way to allow people to retain their house. property taxes, we always seem to leave those out. it is something we should revise because that is another thing that is unaffordable. we are in the right space but can be creative coming up with new things.

>> i believe that our affordable housing should be available for people in a abstinence setting, they need to be drug and alcohol free, so people who need support get support and live in a community and get back on their feet. sick and tired hearing we spend a lot of time talking to people and hearing from people who live in affordable housing and neighbors are smoking fentanyl or in the showers and people are doing fentanyl right there while trying to take a shower. sick and tired of it. i want to make sure affordable housing goes to those people who need our help and want to get back on a path to recovery. that is number one. number two, we should be investing in a path to home ownership. i did professionally the last 3 years turned thousands of families from renter tuesday home owners. we can expand first responder and educator down payment assistance fund to help educators and first responders live in the communities they

serve. >> san francisco needs to do a much better job of providing emergency rental assistance to those in need. much smarter investment to keep people housed then to continue to poor millions of dollars into non profit and homelessness without much results. but, i just want to go back to the last question. you can say that you are in favor of mid-rises, but follow the money. look at the supporters. when you together sf, sf yimby, northern neighbors, these are organizations that opposed tenant protections. these are organizations that would like to get rid of zoning laws and have high rises along the bay. it is one thing to say, i am not supportive of this, but push comes to shove and the supporters come in the room and say we got you elected

because this is what we want, i'm elected for the community, not for the deep pockets. >> i will do a really quick time check. i don't have my cell phone so don't know what time it is. thank you. the next question is going to wendy first. i will say that housing and affordal housing was a key trnd in the question so you will get a lot of housing questions tonight. considering recent policies on homelessness in various u.s. cities, what is your view on criminalizing homelessness versus treating as a socio economic issue? what actions would you propose to address homelessness in our community? >> i don't believe that being homeless is a crime. i believe the homeless need help, medical help. a lot of them are mentally ill or drug addicts and they need to be

rehabed and some needs to be conserved and evaluated to make sure they get the proper care they need. so, one of the proposal i like to do is to turn the navigation center into immediate care facility so it provides treatment and opportunity and training for those who are being rehabed so they can go back to society and be with dignity and go to work and stuff like that. >> we should not criminalize homelessness. i think we have seen in recent weeks that with things like sweeps that as things get better in one neighborhood be the tenderloin, they are worse in another like lower nob hill which is a neighborhood and part of district 3 so often forgotten about. we need to do the hard work to

invest in the foundational pieces that get people out of homelessness that includes getting them into shelter. we need more shelter beds, more shelter of all types. we do not have a right to shelter law in san francisco, but there are other cities that have 80 and 90 percent of individuals homeless actually in shelter. we need to step forward toward that. we also need to lower barriers to recovery. we know that there is so much of a drug crisis. it isn't the same as homelessness crisis, but related. we need to lower barriers to treatment. there are too many barriers this moment. many of these centers are still working banking hours, 9 to 5, monday to friday. we need to lower those barriers. >> i like to disconnect a consent we have in our mind that if you dont have a house you occupy the street. i think we have to be quite strong about stopping that. the street lost all of us. it is something that is our

common living room and i think what we are reacting and interested in the topic a lot is because we see dirty streets, feel unsafe in the streets and there is illegal occupation. as a example if we have a earthquake we would figure to create the necessary infrastructure to house as many as we need to. if we treat as a crisis and understand the street has to be empty and allowed for everybody, we can move to the second issue. homelessness i think maybe we can divide into two quick cat cores. cars. category. one is suffering from hardship. there is a path to housing in that space, but in terms of mental illness, we need to bring back institutions. they can be humane but they need to come back. >> we do not have an affordability crisis, we have a drug crisis on our

streets and we need to start taking that seriously. this is empirical. the low end is 85 percent of people on the streets reject shelter. on the high end up to 98 percent. these are stats. it is a drug crisis on our streets. we need to make sure that people have access to recovery on demand. fentanyl changed the game. it is a horrible drug and that is what the vast majority of people on our streets are using and we need to make sure they have access. it can take upwards of 2 years to get clean off fentanyl and people need access. the vast majority of recovery facilities are in the tenderloin and the temptation is too great . your friends and preferred dealer are blocks away. need to open facilities outside city limit said. we own land to build recovery facilities so people can get on the path to recovery.

>> the unhoused crisis has been a challenge in san francisco for decades, but become more acute in recent years and i agree with much of what was said by eduard and matt and others that, this is a very complex problem. going back to helping people while they are housed is one way to treat it. i do believe we fully need to invest in recovery. i am proudly endorsed by supervisor matt dorsey. he had a recovery journey of his own as well as aaron peskin who talks about recovery openly. we need to help people where they are at. my mother at 28 was diagnosed with schizophrenia and had inpatient psychiatric treatment over the years. we need to use the prop 1 money to build facilities. i agree it is okay to say the situation on the streets is unacceptable.

families should be able to walk their children to school and not have to zigzag across the street. >> i believe that leaving people languishing on the sidewalk or using or er or jail system as door is inhumane and costly way to deal with the surface level of the problem. that is exactly why i during the pandemic was seeing explosion in our community being confronted by visible homelessness we haven't seen in the past and that is why i quit my very stable job to start dignity move, a state wide non profit because we have to invest and innovate in housing solutions that are pragmatic and compassionate at the same time. i built the city first tiny home cabin project at 33 gough still operational and we did that with

philanthropy. we were able to achieve something the city never achieved before. have public private non profit partnership. we were able to get a permit in record time, two weeks moved people in two months and able to build for a fraction of the cost of the current city spends on housing. thank you. >> i already- >> sorry. it happens sometimes. you get confused. next question, we'll start with danny. san francisco faced challenges related to ethical behavior in the past several years. i say that is putting mildly. what would you do to reform checks and balances and transparency around things like political contribution, contract award and city focused programs to insure residents have faith in where their dollars are spent and they have the right level of information?

>> thank you for the question. two things. first is commission reform. we have more then 150 commissions in our city. we have thousands of city commissioners. there are a lot of individuals doing incredible work but also individuals unelected and making really important decisions. that is why we see corruption. something i support is prop put on by supervisor peskin, the inspector general measure. this is something most cities have, a independent office to be tasked full time with rooting out corruption, giving protections to whistle blowers and being a force in city hall having independent budget in city hall to look out for corruption to be able to actually act independently and stop corruption. most other major u.s. cities have it. we don't and we have seen the result.

that is why i support a inspector general and hope all you will as well. >> i think the inspector general is a good idea also. however, thinking about this problem, there is the idea that sometimes complexity looks like corruption and is just complexity. the idea is keep things simple. i was reading a hoard nns today and by the time you read the end you are confused what the result is. complexity is our enemy making things faish. to make things efficient we need to clarify the way checks are balances are made and understand the powers each of these bodies have. i do agree there are so many commissions, but the spirit of them was done in the right way. it was to keep oversight. ultimately the way that they where structured and the check s and balances those need to be simple for us to be

able to find efficiency and understand as not just corruption. >> so, the simple answer is, stop electing inciders. we need different people at city hall. if we continue to elect people from the city family, we will have the same corruption that we read about on a weekly basis. $10 thousand in martha venyard, hundred thousand on cigars, trip to napa, we hear about it every week. if we elect people that are not part of the system we can root that out. how would i do that? introduce quantifyable metric for every contract we centralize our vendors to make sure that it is not every department picking who they want to do deals with. there are very simple things we can do if we don't keep electing the same people over and over and over and expecting different results.

give another peak, cam pine finance was a part of the question. it is out of control. people on the stage are bought and paid for. $500 is a total joke. that is not what people are putting into these campaigns. we need wholesale change. >> thank you. moe. >> in the last debate one of the candidates was asked about contributions from dark money group government for california and didn't answer the question, so i hope that question gets answered tonight. look, we need to roll back the curtain and tighter ethics and compliance laws. proud member of the san francisco city attorney office, one of the most robust investigatory units and also support beefing that up with inspector general this fall. i think that is a great first start. you know, another big issue that matt touched on is just, we need to have get

rid of the no bid contracts. highlight example of urban alchemy. they are getting $10 million contract from the city without a shred of public process. talk to neighbors in nob hill and say these folks are dealing drugs on the side. what's going on? that is one example. we do need to elect new faces, we will have a new supervisor in district 3 and we'll lead that change. >> don't fall asleep. i will talk about contract management and procurement reform. it is a passion of mine. it might not mean much to you but a third in public spending is procurement. that means just how we buy things. this is how we buy paper and paint, and in general when we look at how that is done, it is extremely inficient. if you look at the rfp sent out, it looks like it is written by aliens. this is part of the reason we

are so inefficientant managing the city and allows big players to participate. this is area of reform i am super excited to lead on. i'm so passionate about this that i am going to start a founding board of an organization that helps government perform better when it comes to procurement. that is one of the main ways we can actually help reach our equity goals up-lifting small and minority business. thank you. >> okay, i think we are on--see, i did it again. sorry. >> i believe that we have to reduce the commissioners. the amount of commissioners we have or get rid of it, because they are not elected officials, not elected by the people. we should have the board of

supervisors overseeing all the departments. they could have assistance but department has to oversee it. we also have to audit all the programs, because if you heard on the news, there was public works corruption, there is also the non profits embezzling money or taking the money, so we need to put strict standard metrics on the non profits and make sure and go through each and make sure the money is used wisely. >> thank you. we are on our next question. we will start with you. so, the question is, do you support or oppose a plan that make reparations to san francisco african american community and what do you see as the supervisors role regarding the issue? >> i think this is question we touched upon on the last debate, and i

think it cannot be seen in isolation. frankly, i'm not expert in the matter but i believe there should be equality able to reach goals for all kinds of populations and think this is nice thing about san francisco. this is the reason i'm here. the reason i'm willing to defend san francisco both on this stage, on the national and international stage. i think we are very accepting bunch. the fact we are having these ideas and propositions speaks to how we think about the world and world vision. the world vision has been under attack and the end of so many jokes nationally. both reparations which i would support if i need to understand better frankly, but i think we need to package our values and be able to really defend what that means as san francisco values beyond our own city. thank you. >> thank you. >> so, we touched on this last week at a debate in chinatown and i had the opportunity to speak with

someone a d3 resident. i don't see him tonight, but we talked afterwards and he sent me a long e-mail and discussed reparations and one thing that came out of it, was understanding what cash payments, what equity payments look like. it is something i want to more deeply study. one thing i read was bothered me that we spoke about for a while was, in cases where we have seen forms of reparations occur, cash payments have gone out and been spent immediately and i think that is something we should really be cautious of. i think that it is something if something like this were to occur, we make sure that the wealth creation occurs, and it isn't just spent immediately and that is something really important and somewhere i want to continue to study to understand what happens with these programs. >> one of the tragic mistakes

of san francisco our original sin was the redevelopment and destruction of fillmore and japantown and i think the city owes to that community to own up to that and to figure out ways to economically empower that community through continued rental assistances and pathways for home ownership. we need to have economic empowerment for everyone in san francisco, and the number one way to do that is to fight back against gentrification and displacement and that is happening in district 3 and city wide. one area you don't hear about so much is the southeast and in district 10, district 11. i'll partner with the supervisors there to have a comp tensive strategy to keep black and brown and other ethnic communities in the city. we can figure this out.

>> i agree with a lot of what has been said. it is really important san francisco as liberal leaders in our country, we have to create tolerance and space to have difficult conversations and really genuinely honor themism one thing i think we have to focus on is really immediately what can we do to right those wrongs. one thing that i really focused on a couple years ago was advocating for universal child care because studies shows intervention is what will make the most impact in terms of outcome and upward mobility. it is also why when i was leading dignity move i built the vocational training programs so the black youth in our community through success center built a partership so they have vocational training and have apprenticeship hours so they can have stable and well paying jobs when they graduate. we have to look immediately

into our communities and resources add ways where we can correct the equity-inequity that existed in our history. thank you. >> i don't believe in reparations, because it doesn't solve anything. it is stuff that happen in the past. we think forward and what we do to help the people to have opportunity. if you look at the policies are very race based and so there is something called institutional racism which is within the policy itself, so important to do policy that will help people for example, the regulation on how to build homes or open a business, so we can loosen the regulation and end permits fees so low income people can start businesses and stuff like that. >> last year the san francisco reparations task force put out this study which put forward

hundreds of recommendations to be a step towards reparations and so, one or two got the headplines relating to payments, there are hundreds more in that report which i encourage you to review. i think for me this was a reminder and hope for all of us, a reminder san francisco isn't immune from mistake, not immune from a ugly past in moments, particularly around redevelopment in the fillmore. the affordable housing lottery, but we have to do more relating to workforce development and i see this study, i see this task force as a way to have that conversation. there are some of these we can implement quickly, there are others we wont be able to implement, but

this is a promise to our community of color, particularly the black community decimated over decades in san francisco. >> the next question we'll start with matt. so, district 3 isn't just north beach and russian hill. how will you focus revitalizing neighbor said nearby polk street, tenderloin and chinatown? >> so, i grew up in nob hill, so i understand that neighborhood very well and lower nob and wendy lives in lower nob and i learned a lot from her and invited to event down in lower nob as well. i think that is a area we really need to focus on. it is area we haven't focused enough. with the drug crisis and enforce lt in the tenderloin now, a lot of both homeless people but also frankly more importantly, dealers are

getting pushed further and further up to lower nob and that is something we need to take very seriously and something in district 3 we haven't had to deal with as much. that is a area again, i'm endorsed by the san francisco police officer association making sure they have the resources to handle what is going on. polk street, i walk down a few weeks ago, there were 43 store vacancies. that is unacceptable. i started a small business and said how hard to start a small business. we need to support the businesses and fill the vacancies. >> for the last 10 years i have been actively involved in every neighborhood in this district, including lower nob hill and chinatown. i was book looking back at photos and there was a photoof me holding my daughter at 4 years old and remember the early days building the relationships in chinatown and

lower nob hill. it is critical. you need a candidate and supervisor who understand each neighborhood. it is peep on the ground to call upon to organize and show up at a hearing, to testify, to be out there on the front and center. every part of this district obviously believes they are the most important. truth is, they are all important and we need a supervisor who shows up in every neighborhood and prioritizes the most urgent needs which are public safety. also proudly endorsed by the san francisco police officer association and many more. thank you. >> so, i agree with what moe was saying. it is really important for our district supervisor to deeply understand the unique character of every neighborhood and the struggles because there isn't one universal silver bullet we can apply to fix all of our

neighborhoods. the revitalization requires a tailored approach. i do feel lucky because i started getting to know this district all most from 2008 when i started working on land use issues and later working on transportation issues for our community. i have been coming and serving particularly the chine chinatown district over a decade and serve on the chinese hospital steering committee that serve the rest of the community here. yes we have to address public safety and clean streets. those are basics, but we also need to focus how we generate and bring back foot traffic because that is what we need to uplift our small businesses in our community. thank you. >> i missed the beginning of it question. could you repeat it? i want to know what they say. >> district 3 isn't just north beach and russian hill.

how will you focus helping and reviting adjacent neighborhoods near polk street, tenderloin as well as chinatown? >> all the neighbors are really important and i agree with moe, district supervisor should be able to brioratize and make sure that all the neighborhoods have standards are met and their needs are met. regarding lower nob hill, now they are not being attended to. there is seven or more navigation center in lower-that we have, but half of them is lower nob hill. we need to make sure that we make sure that all the other district carry the burden of homelessness and the crisis we have now. >> thank you. we need someone who understands all our district 3 neighborhoods and that is

why i feel strongly you deserve someone working in these neighborhoods for the past decade. i think you deserve more then someone who only shows up at election years or someone who moves in the district just to run for office. our neighborhoods in district 3 are all incredible, they all need different things. along polk, fill up the empty store fronts. lower nob hill, one of the densest parts of san francisco is without any twru open space. i'll work to create a mini-park in lower nob hill. russian hill has three mini-park s, lower nob hill deserves one and as we go to polk street which goes from russian to nob hill to lower nob hill, that is a part of it district, particularly along the commercial corridor that deserve more support from the police department. it deserves foot beat officers and included in central station.

ch central station cuts off at larkin and needs to be expanded to van ness. >> i love to answer the question because typical one. where is district 3? barbary coast, telegraph hill, wharf, north beach, chinatown, union square, embarcadero, united or not, nob hill, russian hill, polk, gulch and lower nob hill. a lot has to do with identity. you can look into architecture. there are plans local plans for each of the neighborhoods to have the central spaces. you mentioned a paurkt park. pocket park. i advocate for something stronger, including a central square and there are urban design capacity. my specialty. to make that really happen. the wharf is about having residents, so understanding each neighborhood and able to articulate urban design

and social can enhance and punch them out. >> we are running behind time and i want to give people a opportunity to walk up to the candidates and ask their own questions. i will skip a couple questions. this is the last one and then you will do your closing statements, because i want to give you 15, 20 minutes to mingle. the last question and it will go two pieces of paper, it will go to moe. if elected how would you maximize occupancy of vacant rentals and accelerating projects considered shovel ready today? >> i partner with the san francisco building trades, proudly endorsed my campaign to create financial incentives to stick the thousands approved and uncontroversial units of housing.

i supported the icvaancy tax on commercial and residential. that is the stick but we need a caret. i have relationships with landlords and itis down through the community organization and try to figure what incentives we need. what culturally appropriate communication do we need with folks to try to understand why are they keeping their properties vacant. i think we need to bring everybody to the table and have a collaborative approach. and that's what i'll do as the supervisor. >> thank you. sharon. >> as someone who worked in managing properties one thing i think very dangerous and destabilizing for the community, we are creating a system that pushes out the small player, the small land lrdss and people we can have a relationship and do negotiations with. we are allowing the opportunity for vanguards and black rock and buy up properties and they are the one holding the units vacant because they

are looking at the return and how insurance companies are basically the market is collapsing and it is creating a lot of downstream problems for us. i as the supervisor will work locally and straight and federally to make sure we build back insurance options so that properties can continue to be occupied. we also need to as the power of the supervisors, we can actually advance debt. that is one mechanism we can use, including tax credits we could actually encourage private markets to continue to do what they need to do. we need to focus on affordable housing and make sure affordable and homeless vacancies are eliminated. thank you. >> i agree with moe and sharon, but i also think that the property owners have their rights as well, and you can't force them to do what they don't want to do, so you want to have to sit down--like moe said, sit down and talk to the landlord and ask why

they are doing that and see what incentive and what we can do together to help start-to have them start renting it out, and also the city could also help-say the tenant moves in, the city can help with part of the rent. >> so, i supported the residential vacancy tax the other year, because i think we got to do everything possible to get vacant unit on line. we have to do everything possible to get 10s of thousands of proposed and aproouved units actually built. but we have to confront the fact that in san francisco it tykes aket 7 permits to build one new unit of housing. we are the longest timeline to approve housing anywhere in the country 6789 the white house called us out for that

in a special report. that is the work we need to do. i think as relating to landlords, the city needs to treat the mega landlords and million dollar appropriation different then small property ownersism i want them treating the mega billion dollar companies differently then my landlord who is a incredible 85 year old italian guy who lives next door. >> my solution is simple and combines both sides. yeneed design framework. we can relax and allow the free market to take shape. how this comes on line built oreb not built without the need of government intervention because our intervention should be how we want the city to feel and to architectural to be. i think that is very much accomplishable. it could spark national debate. something we haven't had since daniel burnham. the only piece that built was

civic center. after world war 2 it is federal highway act, the financing gi bill, all these things that have gotten the country to be suburban. we are maybe the last remaining bastion of urbanism. the other example is new york and we are very different then that. we should focus on design framework that allows not to have to battle building at every corner. thank you. >> how we unlock these units is actually going little off what sharon said. the macro environment is horrible. people dont want to be in san francisco right now. that is just reality and how we get the units unlocked is bringing people back to san francisco. office vacancy downtown are 40 percent. companies are leaving our city in droves. we need to make sure san francisco returns to be the beacon on the hill and we do that by creating

safe, clean streets. i talk to management teams downtown and ask two things. safe streets so employees can walk to and from work and consistent regulations. we know san francisco is never the easiest place to do business but can be consistent. number 2, the city is can get involved. we can have tax abatement and use tax incremental financing and modernize the building code, the fire code. reducing reg ylgdss rather then continuing to add every year every year every year. >> thank you very much. that was our last question. it is time for your closing statements. this is your closing statement to all the voters here. we will go in reverse alphabetical order by first name. you have 60 seconds for your closing statement and will start with wendy. >> i am-- i am a civil rights

attorney and i really want to help the people and that's why i took my time off from work to try to run for office to help the community, because that is what i do for a living and most of life is dedicate service to the people and so, when i go to court i fight for the people. i am happy they do community work but my community work is in court. i help change, i help force the city to change the policy when i sue them, but i want-what i want now is to see the city, because i love the city and want the city to be number 1 again in the united states and so, that's why i'm running for office. i want to make sure that we have accountability and transparency and that the city serve and protect the people and not the other way around and charge people all these taxes and stuff like that without giving them

back the service they need. thank you. also, you can follow me on x. [laughter] >> thank you everyone for your time tonight. really appreciate it. i am running because i love the city. the best and most beautiful place in the world for me and my family and the only place my kids xoe to be their home. i believe that we can get san francisco to be more functional and less ideological and focus real solutions that really benefit all san franciscans. but, reforming government as well as making change and delivering the change you all need requires expertise. it requires conveners and people capable of building allyship across broad spectrum and that's why i am here. i pleev we can work together so san francisco can be stronger and safer for everyone. that is the future i see and i know possible and counting on you

all to give me your vote number 1 or 2, even 3 is great. thank you for your time again. >> thank you. i love san francisco and more importantly, i love dist rict 3. this is the greatest supervisoral dist rth in america. honor and privilege to run for this seat. every neighborhood in this district is special and has its own unique needs and concerns. i am running to make this district and our city to get back to basics. what that means is three simple things, our streets need to be cleaned. i partner with russian hill to deliver more street sweeping, woo eshould have 24 hour dpw folks on the streets. san francisco and this district needs the cleanest streets in america. number 2, public safety. we need fully fund our san francisco police department. we need wholesale change on the police commission so rank and file officerss know we have their back and while i'm the number one endorsed

candidate of the san francisco police officer association and most importantly, we cannot forget our tenants and our home owners and small businesses who dedicated so much to the city and i will never sell you out to big development and corporate greed. thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening. thank you so much for sharing your evening with us. i appreciate it. this is the last debate so far. my name is matt susk. running for the board of supervisors because like i said, san franciscans deserve safe streets, thriving businesses and government accountability. i am not a career politician. i am an out cider here to bring new voice to city hall. i believe in public safety, cutting costs and invest ing in our local economy and i have the record to prove it. proudly endorsed by the san francisco police officers association. a graduate of the san francisco police officer community police

academy where i spent three month learns about every division within the sfpd, where they are under resourced and under staffed. mb a from georgetown and decade in the private sector. advisor government pension plan, starting a small business in san francisco and helping thousand of families achieve dream of home ownership. thank you again for joining me tonight. my name is matt susk. >> my name is eduard navarro. to make your choices you see many have similar ideas. i think your choice is much more about who can be effective. educationally i hold master of architecture with concentration in urban design from columbia uniersity and master in real estate development. before that studied in [indiscernible] and paris and graduated from georgia tech in atlanta. professionally always been a entrepreneur that forces you to be

creative and resourceful. i started a company in george goj to design new small urban towns. i was tasked with 10 square kilometers in the city. last 10 years i spent in spain inest haveal u.s. capital in housing, built a thousand units of housing. we going into infrastructure, we bought a tunnel entering from france to--i love san francisco and happy to be here and look forward to your vote in november. >> thanks everyone. tonight i think you heard a lot of ideas but deserve more then ideas, you deserve action and action is what i have been delivering the last 10 years. leading the effort for farmer market, working with community centers like to leading the community charge to bring a grocery outlet to old safe way on bay street.

that is the work i have done and want to continue. over this campaign, i had the absolute privilege of knocking on thousands of doors and thousands of conver aishzsations and 1 thing is clear, we want and deserve change. change doesn't come from those backed by inbum cnt or inidsooers. i love district 3 and our neighborhood and see them as what they are. ment incredible communities, not as political opportunities used as a stepping stone. i want to make district 3 safer, cleaner, more affordable and i want to reshape city hall to get results. that is what you deserve and what we all deserve. i hope to earn your vote as the next district 3 supervisors. >> thank you very much. i have a couple closing remarks. i will ask candidates to stay on stage 60 seconds to get a picture. on behalf of legal of women voters of san francisco, we want to thank the candidates, you the voters and [indiscernible] north beach

neighbors, sfgovtv for supporting this non partisan forum and are did skip a shout out to sfgovtv at the beginning. i had the wrong script, so i want to-they do all the live streaming and recording for thevents. great partnership we had the last 10 years. we team with them every election cycle. they are awesome to work with and they share our goals of educating and empower voters and support is valuable. these things take quite a bit of time to organize and if we also had to provide an a v team and cameras and all that stuff, it would literally there is no way. we would be doing inperson events on this on zoom. those guys literally thank you so much. [applause] we want to thank you guys for participating. the league of women votes will

host for most local races. we have done board of education, d5, 9, 1 and 3 so all the supervisor raising, community college board, mayor and sharer. if you look at the website you can learn more and rsvp to theevents. be a voter and cast your vote by election day november 5. there is no excuse in san francisco. our department of elections is baller and there are so many places to vote, and ways to vote here. vote, it matters. be the change you want to see in district 3. together you can build the future you want in this community block by block. remember to vote, thank you and good night. [applause]

>> in the bay area as a whole, thinking about environmental sustainability. we have been a leader in the country across industries in terms of what you can do and we have a learn approach. that is what allows us to be successful. >> what's wonderful is you have so many people who come here and they are what i call policy innovators and whether it's

banning plastic bags, recycling, composting, all the different things that we can do to improve the environment. we really champion. we are at recycle central, a large recycle fail on san francisco pier 96. every day the neighborhood trucks that pick up recycling from the blue bins bring 50 # o tons of bottles, cans and paper here to this facility and unload it. and inside recology, san francisco's recycling company, they sort that into aluminum cans, glass cans, and different type of plastic. san francisco is making efforts to send less materials to the landfill and give more materials

for recycling. other cities are observing this and are envious of san francisco's robust recycling program. it is good for the environment. but there is a lot of low quality plastics and junk plastics and candy wrappers and is difficult to recycle that. it is low quality material. in most cities that goes to landfill. >> looking at the plastics industry, the oil industry is the main producer of blastics. and as we have been trying to phase out fossil fuels and the transfer stream, this is the fossil fuels and that plastic isn't recycled and goes into the waste stream and the landfill and unfortunately in the ocean. with the stairry step there will be more plastic in the ocean than fish. >> we can recycle again and again and again. but plastic, maybe you can

recycle it once, maybe. and that, even that process it downgrades into a lower quality material. >> it is cheaper for the oil industry to create new plastics and so they have been producing more and more plastics so with our ab793, we have a bill that really has a goal of getting our beverage bottles to be made of more recycled content so by the time 2030 rolls around t recycle content in a coke bottle, pepsi bottle, water bottle, will be up to 50% which is higher thatten the percentage in the european union and the highest percentage in the world. and that way you can actually feel confident that what you're drinking will actually become recycled. now, our recommendation is don't use to plastic bottle to begin w but if you do, they are committing to 50% recycled content. >> the test thing we can do is

vote with our consumer dollars when we're shopping. if you can die something with no packaging and find loose fruits and vegetables, that is the best. find in packaging and glass, metal and pap rer all easily recycled. we don't want plastic. we want less plastic. awe what you we do locally is we have the program to think disposable and work one on one to provide technical assistance to swap out the disposable food service to reusables and we have funding available to support businesses to do that so that is a way to get them off there. and i believe now is the time we will see a lot of the solutions come on the market and come on the scene. >> and is really logistics company and what we offer to restaurants is reasonable containers that they can order

just like they would so we came from about a pain point that a lot of customers feel which wills a lot of waste with takeout and deliver, even transitioning from styrofoam to plastic, it is still wasteful. and to dream about reusing this one to be re-implemented and cost delivery and food takeout. we didn't have throwaway culture always. most people used to get delivered to people's homes and then the empty milk containers were put back out when fresh milk came. customers are so excited that we have this available in our restaurant and came back and asked and were so excited about it and rolled it out as customers gain awareness understanding what it is and how it works and how they can

integrate it into their life. >> and they have always done it and usually that is a way of being sustainable and long-term change to what makes good financial sense especially as there are shipping issues and material issues and we see that will potentially be a way that we can save money as well. and so i think making that case to other restaurateurs will really help people adopt this. >> one restaurant we converted 2,000 packages and the impact

and impact they have in the community with one switch. and we have been really encouraged to see more and more restaurants cooperate this. we are big fans of what re-ecology does in terms of adopting new systems and understanding why the current system is broken. when people come to the facility, they are shocked by how much waste they see and the volume of the operations and how much technology we have dedicated to sort correctly and we led 25 tours and for students to reach about 1100 students. and they wanted to make change and this is sorting in the waste

stream they do every single day and they can take ownership of and make a difference with. >> an i feel very, very fortunate that i get to represent san francisco in the legislature and allows me to push the envelope and it is because of the people the city attracts and is because of the eco system of policy thinking that goes on in san francisco that we are constantly seeing san francisco leading the way. >> kids know there's a lot of environmental issues that they are facing. and that they will be impacted by the impact of climate change. they will have the opportunity to be in charge and make change and make the decisions in the future. >> we are re-inventing the way the planet does garbage founded in the environmental ethic and hunger to send less to landfills. this is so many wonderful things

happening in san francisco. i feel very fortunate and very humble to live here and to be part of this wonderful place.