we're fortunate we can get feedback and serve to the king of ending and also >> madam secretary, would you take roll? >> president stacy, here. vice president arce, here. commissioner jamdar, here. commissioner leveroni, here. you have quorum. >> thank you. before calling the first item, i like to announce that the san francisco public utilities commission we acknowledge that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land and in

accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors and relatives of the ramaytush community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. please call

the first item. >> approval of the minutes. of october 22, 2024. >> and the approval of the minutes of october 22 will be continued to the next meeting. do we need a motion for that? >> yes. >> could i have a motion and a second? >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. >> thank you. next item. >> general public comment. members of the public may address the matters within the jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. >> i like to add that the commission values civic engagement and

encourages respectful communication at the public meeting. we ask that all public comments be made in the civil and courteous manner and that you refrain from the use of profanity. thank you. >> remote callers, please raise your hand if you wish to provide general public comment. any members present who wish to provide general public comment? the first card i have is for mrs. barbara folger. >> i'm a 52 year resident of san francisco and i averaged 60 gallons of water every day this year. that is 30 gallons less then requested and actually hopeful 90 gallons per day that is on my sfpuc bill. i use 33 percent less water then what the city thinks i'm going to use. like my water use, the sfpuc

water usage was lower then projected. in 23, 24 the water use was 184 million gallons a day. it was 25 less then the projected use of 216 billion gallons a day fo2025. yet for 2045 projections, water usage is expected to go up to 270 million gallons a day, or 244 million gallons a day depending on which numbers are used, even though your finance bureau projects water sales to be flat. in spice of lower water use, sfpuc is planning to invest billions of dollars for alternative water supply. this will triple my water bill

from $155 to $465. many residents won't be able to afford this. especially as they get older. only billion airs are able to afford the billions you are planning on investing. thank you for taking my statement. >> next i have fran >> my name is francisco decosters. let me inform the commission i have been giving public comment over 50 years and coming to these meetings and trying to get something positive from the commissioners is very very rare. at one time, 25 of us would come here to give public comment. now there are only two. peter and myself. you commissioners have a job to do and

you all are not doing it. and with a new president, you will see all the more how you will be caught red-handed not fulfilling certain obligations. whether it comes to climate change, whether it comes to the toxicity in our water, whether it comes to the carbon footprint from our buildings. none of which i address in the presentation. and when it comes to the sewer system improvement project, the ssip, we the people were told that you would get at least two presentations and we haven't got them in the last 5 years. you commissioners think you all are doing due diligence and

hoodwinking us in broad daylight. i don't want to come to these meetings really. i had a good talk with peter. i want to come to the meetings. peter said, you know, let's see how it works. let's see how it works. we have a population of 850-how many come for public comment? thank you very much. >> next we have resa schwartz. thank you. next we have scott wells. >> my nail is scott webb. here today to give a awareness on the

item regarding the san francisco versus ep a. over the last few months close to 5 # ongo signed on to letters and hundreds give public comment and hosted multiple rallies over 6 thousand e-mails and letters sent and leadership from supervisor melgar and peskin we held council resolution [indiscernible] the argument raised risk eliminating the epa and state citizen ability to implement substantial portions of the clean water act. [indiscernible] half a century that protects san francisco and the whole united states. san francisco actions put the ep a ability to protect clean water in the supreme court. the effects cab catastrophic. [indiscernible] watching supreme court hearing was rough and it looks like the incorrect assumption this is a narrow brief. today with [indiscernible] head of the epa

[indiscernible] intention said to [indiscernible] we are calling the sfpuc to help find a solution before the supreme court renders a hearing in the spring and give the administration-do not give the administration the opportunity to canning change the clean water act. our coalition love to meet with the commissioners and hope we find a solution together and work collaboratively so dont give trump the opportunity to rewrite the clean water act. thank you so much. >> do we have members of the public who wish to speak moderator? >> there are four callers with their hands raised. >> thank you. >> caller, your line is unmuted. >> dave warner, thank you for your services here to highlight a letter you received. summary thof presentation i made bay water steward meading.

bay area water stewards is made up of participants including sper, bay area council, [indiscernible] sierra club and tuolumne river trust. this letter highlights demand and financial information leading up to wholesale water rate protections 20years from now. the sfuc is self-funded organization. our key to keeping the organization solvent. the short version of the letter is all the demands supply scenarios 20 years from now are very expensive, more so when you take into consideration water supply should exceed demand projections. i need to correct one error in the letter and at the end of the letter i state the sfpuc is seeing the debt downgraded by a agency. that is wrong.

what the rating agency did was issue negative outlook for wastewater debt which isn't a downgrade. my apology for not correcting the error. i hope you take time to read the letter and consider findings. thank you. could you guys hear me okay? >> yes, we can. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you caller. caller, your line is unmuted. you have two minutes. >> thank you. good afternoon everyone. this is peter dreckmiler, tuolumne river trust. the design drought is major pont of contemption defined as, level of service objectives for water supply [indiscernible] 8 and a half year drought planning scenario, 87 to 92 fallowed by

96-97 [indiscernible] 265 million gallons per day, mgd. for years the 265mgd was treated as demand projection mptd in 2019 staff was forced to acknowledge it was just the contractual obligation. the 265 became known as obligation and staff began to include a separate assessment based on demand projections, which is off by average of 22 percent over the past 25 years. those numbers are highly inflated. regarding the two droughts that up the design drought, the first and third most severe droughts on record. the design drought is 72 percent more severe then the worst drought on record which is 87-92 and might expected once in 8 thousand years. removing one year reduce the need for expensive alternative water supplies by 25 mgd and used the failed

projections whether then demand projections reduce the need for alternative water supply by 37 mgd. these two actions combined save more then $11 billion and avoid stranded assets which is wurlth exploring. between 2020-and 22 hosted workshops such as demand projections climate change [indiscernible] did nothing. it was a huge embarrassment and those commissioners are now all gone. i will send a link to the workshop jz energ can you to review them and request your own workshop. >> thank you caller, your time expired. caller, your line is unmuted, you have two minutes. >> good afternoon. my name is mary butterwick. as a resident of san francisco i have a specific connection to tuolumne river. the source of my drinking water and responsibility to do what i can

to support a ecosystem. members of the public have repeatedly asked the commission to revisit the extremely conservative [indiscernible] the policy is particularly damaging to the river environment during dry periods. [audio cutting in and out] i urge the commission to reduce length of design drought by one year, apply reasonable demand projections based on finance bureau water projections and present the results to the public. these actions would facilitate meaningful dialogue on flows needed to restore the [indiscernible] last match the sacramento superior court ruled [indiscernible] state water board 2018 bay delta plan. now is time to insure flows in the tuolumne are consistent.

stream flows [indiscernible] we already lost over 5 years of progress implementing the flow standards. all salmon are in desperate need of flow. the proposed tuolumne river volunteer agreement cannot achieve these objectives. [indiscernible] by water agencies to avoid [cutting in and out] reasonable use of water in a over-appropriated river system that claim they can produce more fish with less water is [indiscernible] the seven workshops hosted by sfpuc provided ample evidence [indiscernible] i encourage the new commissioners to review the workshop videos. thank you. >> thank you caller. no more callers who wish to be recognized. >> thank you. >> thank you for the public comment. next item, please.

>> item 5, report of the general manager. >> madam president, i have nothing to report other then i want to report on conversation you and i had when i talked about over the next several months we will be scheduling for the commission various high level briefings on important issues the commission will be facing over the next several monthss and we are in the process getting those organized. >> thank you. item 6. >> item 6, bay area water supply and conservation agency report. >> public comment on [indiscernible] >> sure. would you like to comment? >> sure, sorry, i forgot public comment. >> the general manager said he has nothing to say accept there is a conversation with the chair and we

heard it. what about the presentations that are promised to the people but are not fulfilled? what is the role of the attorney that is here to remind y'all that when you make promises to the people that y'all don't treat them with destain. do you think it is right that you start the sewer system improvement project with a budget of $6 billion and now it is close to $12 billion and the people are kept in the dark? we need a general manager who is an engineer. and with a new mayor, i hope all is a change in what's happening with

sfpuc. i'm asking you commissioners to look into the indictments linked with the sfpuc. i'm asking you to bring to the attention of the people millions of dollars that have been wasted. million of dollars. calaveras, irvingten tunnel, mountain tunnel, force mains, replacement of clean water drinking pipes, replacement of sewer pipes. thank you very much. >> do we have other members of the public who wish to speak?

moderator. >> madam president. [no audio] >> that is generally correct, yes. >> thank you. >> thank you. item 6, bay area water supply conservation agency report. >> good afternoon president stacy, members of the commission and general manager herrera. i want to thank you for the opportunity before you to speak one last time to the commission as bosca.

i had conversations with commissioner stacy and she challenged me to think btd things. twive yours ago i was given the opportunity to work with san francisco and the stewardship of the remarkable hetch hetchy regional water system on behalf of 26 member agencies and the 1.8 million residents and businesses and counties throughout the bay area. reflecting on the past 25 years grateful for the challenges and accomplishments we shared and yet we are not done. looking ahead the system continues to face new challenges, including anticipated growth in the region, changing climate and increasing regulatory requirements that threaten the reliability of our water supply from the tuolumne river. in 2002, at urging of local elected officials and others outside san francisco, the state passed legislation that required san francisco to

fix the earthquake water system. the water rate payers outside of the city understood the fixing the system would triple the water rates and still these rate payers pressed the state and san francisco to do what was necessary to insure the system could continue to deliver water following earthquake. san francisco is not initially supportive, however, i believe today we all look a at the implement at 4.8 billion program as a successful and local rate payer investment in the water supply reliability. however, as we navigate future challenges we must adopt a more holistic approach. while tradition engineering might present a singular answer to these problems, that will not suffice moving forward. to address today's risk to reliability we must challenge ourselves to examine more possible outcomes and broader solution then ever before.

whether those challenges relating to development of alternative water supply program or the construction of necessary system upgrades is important bosca and puc work together to find solutions that recognize the needs of water users. as we did to successfully address emerging water challenges securing water useer support is paramount. this required trust and confident in the solution jz costs by foster transparency and open communication we can build trust and garner support for new investment in the water system essential to insuring water supply reliability. i'm pleased to be part of our continuing relationship have forged a stronger partnership through the implementation of collaborations on behalf of respective constituency. we have learned to balance our distinct responsibility and shared

objectives. i hope future leaders will continue to prioritize the balanced approach because i believe it is yielded positive results for water users and the system. i have been fortunate to have good working relationships with the commissioner members and i know bosca next chief executive officer will work with you and general manager herrera to build relationships that focus on results for water users. i want to express gratitude to the commission and puc staff for the honor of working with you on this remarkable water system on behalf of the 26 member agencies and customers it truly a honor and thank you very much. that concludes my planned remarks. >> thank you so much for your many arof work. you bring great perspective and expertise to your role and you've always approached it with a very collaborative spirit and i really appreciate that.

>> been my pleasure. thank you. >> anyone else have-general manager. >> thank you madam president. on behalf of the staff i want to thank you for your tremendous collaboration in the three years i have been here, but more so for the two decades more then two decades you have been involved as a true partner with the sfpuc on behalf of bosca and member agencies. a good advocate and partner and collaborator and appreciate all the great work you do and partnership you bring between our respective agencies, so thank you for your service. >> thank you very much, dennis. >> commissioner arce. >> thank you. ypt to say thank you for your many years of service and i can remember being advocate sitting in the audience on various audience seeing you up here and present on behalf of bosca, and you made it such effective advocacy

operation organization umbrella for the region and appreciate you in your statement you outlined the work done to bring the region along advocating and for and necessary investment thin water system. i think your roadmap is something for us to work with and we met your successor at the last meeting so look forward to the good work to continue. >> thank you very much for your kind comments. >> i do have a few more questions for you. i think it is really important that we learn as we go and i wonder if you have comments you alluded to the need for sort of a holistic and maybe more creative approach in the future. do you have a prognosis or advice for us for what we will see in the future or how we approach an uncertain

future, especially with climate change in mind. >> i wish i had a magic wand to give the answer, but i think we have done our best work when we started trying to examine possible scenarios. there is such great uncertainty in many areas, right from demand projections, reliability to climate change. what the investments need to be for system reliability and think doing a broad approach of looking at those scenarios and arare of planning greater then what we have done in the past in a way that helps bracket our solutions and helps better connect all us to the decisions that are being made. i think that's going to be the important thing. your next decisions are going to be significant. they will be expensive and i think it will be important that we have the trust of the water users to be

supportive that. i had the opportunity last week to speak before a utility advisory committee in palo alto and more then one commissioner how they continued to believe it was the right think and recognize the risk. that is where we need to get with next level of investment. it needs to be clear. we have to make it very clear for the customers why we are doing things and part is being open and examining all the possibilities and getting them to a comfort level and basca is here to do its part because we have a big role to play with you on that. >> i couldn't agree more and i think especially with the uncertainties of the future it will be really important to be as transparent as possible and also to really listen to all of the different effected parties. you mentioned in your comments

the water system improvement program was a real accomplishment and highlight. i think also the work that bosca has done managing drought and uncertainties has also been a real positive step forward. couldn't have been easy. >> no, not easy. those are the challenges, right? i think this commission and bosca, our obligations are to the water users and reliability singular have that job so it means we have to tackle tough things that if that want someone's job or their obligation, they might-it might be a easier answer and that is a part of the difficult challenge because at the end of the day it is to this body to your staff to bosca, the water users would come in and say, you knew there was a drought or we had reliability issues and you actually chose a

different path. we have to stay focused on the water user and obligation to the water user and droughts and reliability and inest vestments as we try to make tough decisions ahead. >> thank you so much for your role in all of it in the past and i don't know if you'll be keeping an eye on bosca or the puc but i hope we will hear from you if you advise or redirection. >> they are going to keep tabs on me, so not going too far. thank you very much. >> thank you so much and congratulations on your retirement. next item. sorry, public comment. would anybody like to comment?

>> remote callers, raise your hand if you like to provide comment on item 6. >> commissioners, i want to give you some history. the hetch hetchy valley was one of the most beautiful valleys in the world. if you read the history you read about john muir and a number other advocates. would you not want to dam the hetch hetchy valley. one of you-all your commissioners should read the rico act. when you read the rico act, find out who suffered the most when the hetch hetchy reservoir was created? the tribes. not once, not once, not once

have you all commissioners paid attention to the [indiscernible] the tribes. did the rico act have in mind [indiscernible] did you all have in mind [indiscernible] ? yes. why? because of greed. how much water do you all-how much do you pay for the water when you first dammed the reservoir, the hetch hetchy reservoir? now, the glaziers that were there are no more. we have finite water. okay? and i don't want to tell you who should have the water and who should not have the water. we should be ashamed in the year 2024 we flush our toilets with clean

drinking water. thank you about that. >> thank you. >> moderator. >> mrs. lennear, there are three callers with their hand raised. f >> thank you. >> caller, your line has been unmuted, you have two minutes. >> thank you. this is peter dreckmyer from tuolumne river trust. i mentioned in my prior comment about a change [indiscernible] the puc looked at demand projections and interestingly it was a comment made by mrs. sancola that triggered this and looking at my notes, this is october 22, 2019, she said, there is a very good chance for my agency that number won't reach 184 mgd by 20245. that doesn't mean you don't have a obligation for 184.

all pressure from bosca, you better mead your obligations. the past year fiscal year 23-24, total system delivery was 184 mgd a combination of bosca and san francisco. demand is way down. the same meeting another comment made, i will tell the bosca agencies are highly interested in reducing use as much as possible. that said, they also dont want to pay for projects they don't need. they also are concerned about the bottom line and to the extent that can stall extra investment or reduce investment you have to make, they pay 2/3 of every dollar so very interested in that. these are mixed messages. you better be prepared to deliver 184, which means investing in expensive alternative water supplies, but we don't want to pay for water we don't need. you can have a super reliable

system plenty water and rates double. it is balanceic act. :we would to chat with you, have a workshop, get bosca involved and address the delima. thank you. >> thank you caller. caller, your line has been unmutesed. you have two minutes. hello caller, are you there? >> sorry, can you hear me now? >> yes. >> sorry about that. this is dave warner. i like to thank mrs. sancoola for her service. as much as we didn't see eye to eye, all times she was clear and transparent and always had time for me and others to exchange views and i just really appreciate that and want to say thank you. thank you. >> thank you caller.

caller, your line has been unmuted. you have two minutes. >> john [indiscernible] can you hear me? >> yes, we can hear you. >> i'm sorry, i had my hand raised for general public comment, so ied with like to have two minutes to do that. >> please continue. >> my name is john [indiscernible] grew up fishing with my family, grand parents and later a biologist and stint as commercial fishing person. i want to talk about the tuolumne and the way-the fall run and how the san francisco public utilities commission switched on how they counted fish returning. before 2009 they used to count fish carcass which most biologist do, that is fish that come back to breed

and went to the weir down river. a lot of fish you see there don't make it back up. that when you look at if you take a look at the different figures, you may see at the weir 1 year, 600 fish returning, 1300, but the actual number of fish who come back to their spawning grounds is more like 2 or 300. as other people have talked about, there was workshops back in i believe 2021 or 2022. one of them dealt with fish dr. john rosenfield talked. i urge you to do that. in september there are guiding tours of the spawning ground and canoeing on tuolumne and as far as i know since i have been involved the last 12 or 15 years, nocommissioner has ever gone up there. i'm issuing a invitation that so you can mark on your calendars a

year ahead of time that you come out with us and take a look at the fish. >> thank you caller. your time expired. there are more callers who wish to be recognized. >> thank you. >> thank you. next item. >> consent calendar. 7 a-7d. >> does anybody have any comments or questions on the consent calendar? i had a general question that came to me when i was looking at the consent calendar about compensable delay. i don't know if somebody can answer the question for me, but i noticed that two of the items on the consent calendar included a compensable delay component. item 7b and d and two items 7a

and c didn't. i would guess it is because of the amount of information that we have on the particular projects that compensable delay seems adviseable in one case and not the other. would you mind commenting on that? >> [indiscernible] so, compensable delay in the contracts are when we ask the contractor to estimate the cost of a delay that would be the city's fault. how much they get paid a daily rate if we delay the contract. it is usually a estimate. it is never really the real cost, and it is used to determine the winner of the bids, because it is factor. it is a way to factor in the

scoring. so, we use it in some contracts and not others. we hold the contractor to that delay cost if there is a delay that we cause and impact them. the reason for it being in some procurements and not others is usually related to the complexity of the project and how likely we think there is potential for us to delay the contractor. i think that is as close as i could get to why we use that metric in our selection process. >> okay. thank you for that information. do we have any public comment on the

consent calendar? >> remote callers, raise your hand if you wish to comment on the consent calendar. do we have any members of the public who wish to speak? if so, please approach the podium. moderator. >> mrs. lennear, there are callers with their hand raised. >> thank you. could i have a motion and second on the consent calendar? >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you. >> president stacy, aye. arce, aye. jamdar, aye. leveroni, aye. the item passes. item 8, apoint president kate stacy to serve as commissioner on the san joaquin tributary authority commissions. >> commissioners, any comments or questions?

any public comment on this item? >> remote callers, raise your hand if you wish to comment on item 8. if there are any members present who wish to comment, please approach the podium. seeing none, moderator-- >> mrs. lennear, there are no callers with their hand raised. >> thank you. >> thank you. motion. >> make a motion to approve. >> second. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. item 9, approve contract number

wd-2868r. >> commissioners, any-- >> presentation first. >> good afternoon commissioners. division manager, san francisco water division. here today to seek your approval to extend 150 percent wd-2868r, the as needed paving program in city operations. may i please have my slides? first background information. the contract was issued may 2024. construction was the successful bidder. it was $13.9 million. 195 calendar days for pavement and sidewalk restoration within san francisco. a little history of what we do. what you see in front of you is

the water main break at green and fillmore. you may have seen this t made the news, september 2023. what you don't see in the picture is fillmore street with more damage done. we cleaned up sand whether the way down to lombard street. there was a extensive operation. what you see now is what it looks like today. accept for the brand new paving and sidewalks you never know we 2e were there. next slide shows you a standard water service instillation on the 2300 block of [indiscernible] the right is restoration forced to do by dpw change in the excavation code. requires to expand. [indiscernible] to prevent subsidence over the years. our contract expenditure thus far as you see new services, $5

million, this year alone calendar 2024 we installed 628 new service lines in san francisco. main breaks. thish year alone, we repaired 120 main breaks which is below average and we are not complaining. we usually mid-200s for main break. service like replacement and leaks, 301 service replacement and leak repairs in san francisco this year. lastly, the other repair work from dpw, we call them x11104. [indiscernible] we restore and today and the calendar year repaired 588 of the violations. so, understand the consequence of paves cost. october 2022 we had a water

main break. the cost were $117 thousand. june of 2023, [indiscernible] the castro campus, we had a significant break and that was $265 thousand in pavement restoration. and lastly, green and fillmore, the previous slide. that was $1.8 million in paves restoration. unintended consequences. this is our 4th and final request on the contract. previously, in december 23, we extended our capacity by 1.1 million. it was under contingency so didn't require commission approval. in may of 24, we [indiscernible] quarter million dollars to get through until october of this year. as direct result of the main

break at green and fillmore and related activities to that, we had to seek commission approval back in june 25 for $3.9 million. so, we modified the contract currently up to $19.2 mill and total duration of 1283 consecutive calendar days. our final request is increase the capacity $20.8 million for duration of 1825 calendar days. our new as needed contract, is prepared. estimated to bid award march of 2025. with ntp of december 2025 and currently estimate the cost to be $17.1 million.

that's my presentation. can i answer any questions? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioners, any questions or comments? >> question on we were just talking about the last where the contractor had a-if they were over the time period and we caused it there will be- >> can i ask you to speak up, i can't hear you? >> if there was a delay in the contract, is it ever reversed to where if the contractor is delayed through no fault of the sfpuc? >> i don't have the answer to that question. i can get it for you though. >> thank you. >> [indiscernible] yes, it is reversed. a lot of the time when we have

damages associated with that. >> thank you. >> commissioner arce. >> thanks for the presentation and thanks for looking forward until the potential for unforeseen situation where we need these resources and investment obviously for rate payers and residents. it is something they react to and thanks for being at the ready as in the past to address in the future until we can go back out. the question i have though is just in terms of changes in the industry with respect to the initial contract was 2021 i want to say. may 2021, the impacts coming out of the pandemic were starting to see the impact of supply chain, the years that fallowed, materials and labor increased, curious with the contracts with longer duration and the

conversations with the contractor, accommodate the potential for increase materials and labor costs in terms of some sort of working that into either the terms and conditions for the contractors, especially as it may impact subs they are subing out to. curious as general practice for this contract and others if that is something we consider when we add a change order puts off into several years into the future if we include those potential increase cost to the vendors and contractors we work with? >> going back to covid, our division never stopped. we do not close down, we did not work from home. cdd or what is called sfwd worked through the pandemic. we took full advantage of not having traffic in san francisco to get a lot of work done. hope that answers your question.

>> it is more about the cost when we add additional duration and funds to a contract that was executed in this case over three years ago since there is escalation for materials and labor since the initial escalation of the contract, is that escalation part of a negotiation with the contractor? is it incorporated? the margins will be different? >> we worked with our paves contractor on that. he wasn't going to do it out of the goodness of his heart. >> okay. >> so, we have year 1, 2, 3 big prices in the contract at that account for each year and for change order work it is for request for change order is for work exceeding capacity with what each bid item and we are asked to increase that and also asked to increase the duration of the contract. >> got it. thanks for the responses and

also thank you for your commitment and working through the pandemic. >> it was a lot of fun. >> commissioner jamdar. >> i have a clarifying question. this is ongoing kind of situation, right? >> we can't hear you? >> this is ongoing kind of- >> yes. >> approval. because this kind of work will continue. >> yes. it has and will. >> this is just iteration of it comes back before us? >> yes. >> okay, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> do we have public comment? >> remote callers raise your hand if you wish to comment on item 9. do we have any members present who wish to provide public comment? seeing none, moderator-- >> mrs. lennear, there are no callers with their hand raised. >> thank you.

>> could i have a motion and second on item 9 please? >> so moved. >> seconded. >> thank you. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. >> thank you. next item. >> item 10, approve modification job order contract number joc-98. >> hi. good afternoon commissioners. general manager herrera. judy with the infrastructure division. today here to request approval for modification number 1 to job order contract number joc-98, electrical c10 license construction for the san francisco san mateo santsa

clara alameda counties to electric technology ink to increase for 3 years for total duration of 5 years and increase the contract amount by $2.5 million for a revised not to exceed contract amount of $7.5 million for additional time and capacity for facility and asset improvements. so, job order contract is an indefinite quantity task order based contract that enables the puc to issue task orders efficiently and to complete quickly. these task orders are issued on as needed basis using pre-published pricing. i hope the commission approves this contract modification to increase the

budget capacity. this would allow the puc to have additional capacity and time to make facility improvements. i'm here to answer questions. >> thank you. commissioners, comments or questions? >> [indiscernible] the original was a three year? >> original was two years. >> two year. we are increasing to five? >> yes. >> was that not to exceed contract also, or is it now going to the five year a not to exceed? >> it was a not to exceed $5 million contract and we are increasing through this request $2.5 million not to exceed $7.5 million. >> okay. thank you. >> alright. thank you. do we have public comment? >> remote callers, raise your hand if you wish to comment on this

item. do we have any members present who wish to provide public comment? seeing none, moderator, do we have any people with their hand raised? >> mrs. lennear, there are no callers with their hand raised. >> thank you. >> thank you for your presentation. do we have a motion and second? >> move to approve. >> seconded. f [roll call] the item passes. >> thank you. >> item 11, approval amendment 1 to pro.0183 and granlt agreement pro-0183g. >> good afternoon commissioners. my name is will log stn, watershed planner in the wastewater enterprise and today introducing two gover

green infrastructure grant program. the pilot program provides construction funding to home owners and renters for green infrastructure improvements including rain gardens, rain water harvesting sis turns and permeable pave. ment. we have done projeths in the public right of way parks and schools and land use types so this pilot program is really small residential parcels with as all the green infrastructure is intended to capture storm water route away from the sewer system and provide a buffer during large storm evnlts. the program provides data on the lechbl of interest around green infrastructure at the residential scale and information on the technical feasibility of construction of green infrastructure on residential properties. we are also piloting a unique contracting approach by partnering with third party program administrator with this program.

the two contracts that currently govern this program serve two purposes. professional service contract for program administration out reach and technical support,b and grant agreement for the construction funds that are distributed. both were integrated in a single solicitation awardsed to [indiscernible] the initial set of projects fundsed with combination of add-back funding and wastewater oprating dollars. the original not to exceed amount of $300 thousand for the two contracts combined was limited to availability funding at the time of the solicitation. since the program was launched last year we completed construction of two projects and five in permitting and contracting phase, and launch of the pilot program we received significant level of interest. over 300 residents submit forms through the website and that

demonstrated significant level of support for this program and so in response to this earlier this year we put forth a budget proposal to fund the expansion of the pilot program and this commission approved $600 thousand in funding per year in the wastewater oprating budget for fiscal years 24, 25 and 25, 26. this additional funding will be used to expand the pilot and deliver approximately 12-14 additional projects in each of the next two years. today we are proposing to leverage the existing contract vehicles we have to continue this pilot program. today we are asking for commission approval to amend the existing professional service contract and grant agreement to increase the amount of the contracts commensurate with approved wastewater operating budget and extend the contracts through 2028. thank you for your time and happy to answer any questions. >> thank you.

commissioners, any comments or questions? >> on the amount of wastewater that it would be taking out of the system and putting it somewhere else back into gardens or whatever. is there a cal culshz on calculation on that? >> there is. off-hand and don't have that answer, but i am happy to give a summary of the specific numbers. we estimate for each project and so part of the information we are collecting through the pilot is around cost efficiency and how much storm water we can get out of small residential parcels but it is something we calculate whether a large capital project or small grant funded project like these ones. >> thank you. >> commissioner jamdar. >> thank you for the presentation. i have is a question. could you tell us about the two projects that have been accomplished and what were there and the outcome?

>> we are hoping to get information on a variety of types of green infrastructure and so the first two projects, one was a rain water harvesting system so with that project the home owner had a opportunity to collect storm water from the roof, captured in a secern and pipe for the back yard for irrigation so keeping out of the sewer system and off-setting potable water use. the second project is a combination of the small cistern to provide irrigation during the dry season and have a rain garden in the backyard that is taking the water from the roof during large storms and allowing to infiltrate the soil. then we have a couple other projects using permeable pavement is the third tucknology technology we are finding feasible at this scale.

>> i just had a question. i want to make sure that i understand how the two contracts work together. first, i want to say thank you for the quarterly update. that was helpful looking what we have done in the past with this contract. it looks like in order to qualify for a grant that an applicant has to meet certain kinds of water saving standards and also be eligible. i think the third qualification captured the 90 percentile storm, i wasn't sure what that meant. i wondered if you could explain that? >> yeah, so we have two separate programs that are both have the term green infrastructure grant in them. the quarterly report has a report on the large green grant program

which is separate program. similar goals but that program is targeted towards large parcels like parks and schools and churches and things like that, so a minimum threshold for that program and there are more specific performance requirements relate today how much storm water we capture so we expect them to design the project to meet the standards which is volume and 90 percentile storm is.75 inch depth rain event so that is what we use for performance and a minimum for that program. for the residential program, we don't have a specific required performance target but trying to meet the same performance. >> thank you for clarifying that. so, i assume that the professional services contract is to implement and work with property owners and to do the leg-work on the applicants who

get a grant and what is recommended, but the puc approves every grant that is given out? >> yes, correct. >> so, the grant portion of this item is all that money goes out in the form of grants and that the professional services contract pays for the services to help implement this program? >> exactly. that's correct. >> and for some of the sort of leg-work in the applications and reviewing the applications, does puc staff get involved in that at all? >> yeah, we are pretty-myself and one other staff person is closely involved in the outreach recruitment, the development of the projects and so with this being a pilot we are learning more about how all this works and so, we are working with them along the way

and we have weekly meetings with our program consultant that get updates on that. >> it is enough work you wouldn't-the puc doesn't have capacity to do the work in-house and professional services does? >> correct. they are augmenting the staff time we do have available. >> thank you. public comment please. >> remote callers, raise your hand if you wish to comment on item 11. do we have any members public present who wish to provide public comment? seeing none, moderator. >> mrs. lennear, no callers with their hand raised. >> thank you. >> thank you. could i have a motion and second on this item? >> motion to approve. >> second. >> president stacy, aye.

vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. item passes. >> thank you. next item. >> 12, public hearing to consideration and possible agz to adopt amendments to the san francisco public utility commission social impact partnership program rules and regulations. >> may i have the slides, please? good afternoon commissioners. my name is valerie and honored to be the member of the social impact partnership program. on april 11, 2023 i presented to this commission and unanimously approved the rules and regulations. building on the commission prior approval, i'm here today to address updates prompted by amendment to the ordinance. the board of supervisors and mayor recently passed a amendment to the ordinance which governs the program and go into effect november 18, 2024. the sfuc amended the rules and

regulations to align with recent legislative changes and today i'm here to seek approval so they take affect alongside the amended ordinance. today 's presentation i highlight the progress on accountability, fallowed by review of the amendments. the sip program is grounded in three agency wide policies, offering contractors the opportunity to align corporate social responsibility values with these guiding principals. our programs success best practices and earned the national association of clean water agencies community leadership award. what is sip? contractors of good business partners with the puc and sip allows them to be good partners with the community. through this program, the puc invite practors to commit donations and time to non profit and schools. began in 2011 and in the 112

contracts with 70 firms making contribution to all most 200 non praft and schools across communities to bayview hunter point to sonora. since inception, the sip program delivered over a decade of meaningful human and environmental impact by focusing on four key areas, enabling contractor to support existing programs and services lead by non profits and public schools. sip commitments provide various opportunities to strengthen communities such as supporting job training to under served communities to create career pathways. one example i like to illustrate is the tuolumne community collaborative. through commitment to non profit firms supported a homeless young man in the tuolumne preapprenticeship program who became a home owner after graduating and entering the construction trades. by providing training stipends,

child care, dmv issues union dues and work tools remove key barriers to employment. prioritize cultural competency and accounts starting with submissions. to insure, we require contracts to demonstrate intention to deliver commitment within the specific geographic area of the project, assign two personnel responsible for accurately managing and reporting on commitments, provide detail information on the documented history and experience in social impact work community involvement and partnerships. articulate value jz naij relevant to the program areas and micro communities identified. outline clear plan for engaging communities and maximizing accountability to impacted populations and maintain sip system and documentation to accurately

report completed commitments. the puc requires that a community member serve on the evaluation panel to score contractors sip proposals. reporting is backbone of sip insuring commitments delivered to the community at the start of a contract contractser submit projection plan forecasting financial volunteer commitments for the entire contractual duration and sip annual work plan outlining sip commitments with beneficiaries for upcoming fiscal year. rortding documents are used to verify fulfillment and accuracy. beneficiaries letters of ocknowledgement, proof of fund transfer and time sheet. contractors must report demographics age race gender zip codes and another program specific kpi. metrics collected for each program area such as graduation rates, barriers removed, number of and type of

business supported, teachers and student served as well as kpi related to food security and climate change education. we have streamlined integrated data system for enhanced accountsability and stronger governance and relaunched the firm convening and presented the registry. to support contractors we introducing use r friendly portal with low barrier reporting access and apply a two level quality assurance for accuracy and contractor communication. looking ahead we plan to host convening and early 2025 to share program updates and gather survey feedback driving our continuous improvement practice. our public dashboard is the tool to promote transparency and accountability displaying allficial and volunteer commitments to date. the dashboard published a few year evidence every contract every fiscal year, every project, every firm all the program areas and beneficiaries

and any combination of these. this year we introduced innovative tool on the sip portal registry with filters that enable firms to identify and connect with qualified beneficiaries. this platform gives beneficiaries equal visibility to sfpuc contractors and allow contractors to also locate community partners by county and zip code within the service areas. outreach began broadly through the california doj are site then focused on service areas, existing beneficiaries and invitation sent through local city departments to funded cbo. ongoing efforts expand registry outreach. please permit me to outline the legislative history and purpose of today's presentation. this commission first authorized the sip program october 2022. december 2022 all 11 board of supervisor cosponsored and unanimously passed the ordinance.

making effective april 22, 2023. last month the board and mayor recently expanded the sip program and amended the ordinance which i'll review next that goes into effect november 18, 2024. today we present for approval updated sip rule jz regulations to align with the changes so they too become effective the same day as the a-minded ordinance. the most significant update is related to sip amendments and modification. the board of supervisor and mayor a-minded the ordinance so any contract with sip and amended or modified in any amount the contract sip commitments are proportionally increased including contracts awarded before april 2023. building on the ordinance changes let us turn to the amendments made to the sip rules and regulations which include the significant update to rule 4.4 and other notable revisions. in rule 3 the sf rks uc has the

ubltd to include additional evaluation criteria subject to general manager's approval. rule 6, the general manager can approve contract amendments with exsemption or reduced requirement for the sip commitment. in closing, i like to acknowledge the importance of community feedback. it is essential for government to provide a space where the public can share thoughts and concerns. i respect everyone who attends these commission meetings. the public holds us to high standards and their voices drive us to be accountable and to be better public servants. i am part of several communities and have been taught by these communities. i heard their concerns and committed to creating clear pathways to community involvement in the sip program. please share contact information for anyone who would like me to reach out to about sip. i will insure they receive information and have a chance to provide feedback and available to meet or

present as needed. additionally, i invite anyone interested to be a panelist. we need community representatives, specifically from communities impacted by sfp rks crurks projects to par tis pit in the evaluation process. we respectfully request your support in the amended rule s and regulations and thank you supporting us to advance social impact partnership program. >> thank you for your presentation. commissioners, do you have comments or questions? commissioner jamdar. >> i have a quick question about just the outreach to community organizations. so, is that the decision of the contractor who gets the sip [indiscernible] is that the discretion at the discession of the contractor or

the panel that decides who gets chosen? i'm sure it must be competitive if it is a community, so how do you determine who gets it and who makes the ultimate decision? >> to address the concern because contractors try to ask to and we cannot tell them who to fund. what we did with the sip registry they go in and make the selection so they can use the filters whether they want to focus on age, a zip code, whatever it may be, ethnicity, they decide where they like to donate resources to. >> commissioner arce. >> just wanted to say thank you and also to the general manager, because really appreciate between the last meeting and this assistant general manager ordikhani and mrs.

[indiscernible] really helped provide very thorough understanding of this topic in advance so i feel any questions i had i was able to get answered prior and like to support the item moving forward. thank you. >> thank you for all of your work on this and engagement with the communities. i really appreciate now navigateable the dashboard is. it is easy to use on site, or on the website. it is easy to sift through the information and get the information and i really appreciate that. thank you. >> great. thank you. >> madam president. more to commissioner jamdar. i just want you asked that question and i think it is important and collectively we all think it is important that there never be looking at the history of how sip may

have occurred here in the past and what not, we never want there to be a question about impartialality or a wift that our team is conducting something not without the upmost integrity, so we do not participate and that is priority, transparency and the process because if there is ever a wif that it hurts the overall program and that isn't something of our program managers or myself are ever going to be involved in so we don't get involved picking winners and losers. >> thank you. thank you. >> could we have public comment, please? >> remote callers rsh raise your hand if you wish to comment on item 12. resa schwartz. >> public comment?

>> hi, my name is resa schwartz and representing the children's book project and at the end of two minutes if you like i can answer commissioner jamdar's question from the non profit perspective. i represent the children's book project which is a 34 year old children's literacy non profit headquartered in the bayview district. we recognize that reading and literacy attainment is directly related to academic achievement and good life outcomes. but we also recognize that children from economically disadvantage communities don't have access to books the way their more affluent peers do, stow the children's book project provide that access. we provide access to books and book ownership and we do it entirely for free. for free to children, parents,

educators and community organizations serving those children. it isn't free to us as a non profit, so how do we do that? we do that because of in part, sip and because of companies who are here today like emerson and parsons who are donating money to us and providing invaluable service to the community. what does sip and companies like emerson allow us to do? we put 140 thousand books in the hands of children annually for free through our book banks which you are all invited to tour. we do field trips with published authors and illustrators. provide art supplies. we have a read aloud program for professionals working with parents age 5-0. 0-5. and we go to neighborhoods with

low book access and we buy and build book houses and reg urally stock them and do the same with public health. thank you to sip for funding us. if you like me to- >> thank you. >> do a brief answer to your question. >> mr. schwartz if you would provide information from the non profit. >> from my perspective, emerson who is here as a example came with two people and conducted a extensive hour long site visit, so i know they are using the portal. we dont have access to the portal, but they came and they asked for written information, they toured our book bank in the bayview, they lifted our programs we offer, and made a decision based on finding a non profit that puts all its money to books and to children and if you come viz sit us you

will see cardboard boxes. we dont put money into furniture, we put it in books. parsons as well. we supply statistics for them and they did a site visit and so they knew who we are and we are taking their funds and putting it exactly where it needs to go. any other questions? >> i do appreciate that response. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> contacty bradley. >> good afternoon. cathy bradley, the senior account executive with emerson power and utwaer solutions. our firm commitmented to $1 million and community benefit donations through the db126 project at the southeast plant in bayview hunters point cht our contract began in 2017 and we have made

over $400 thousand in contribution, monetary and volunteer. our commitment has been mainly to help youth in the district 9 and 10 sectors of san francisco and areas of education, job alignment and internship support. some cbo emerson has chosen to donate to are mission hiring hall with cap program. a program afforded to disadvantage students the opportunity to learn soft skills necessary for job readiness. we hired two students from this program. construction industry workforce initiative, a program for college students to align with employers for summer internships and we hosted three interns in the last 4 years. the children book project as you heard, they help students of all ages to acquire books they can keep for

free. since the puc has adopted the social impact partnership program, i have seen a great shift in reporting process with newly adopted sip portal. the sip staff is always inquiring about our needs and how to make the process more streamline. this year they conducted the firm convening experience and we had a very good positive experience with them. they are a good team to work with. thank you. >> francisco decosta. >> commissioners, i don't think any of you all have read the emerson report, which was a 15 year contract. in that contract you would see the photograph of [indiscernible]

jones. i know valerie very well and she has very high standards. what valerie did was, take something that was given to her and put in elements of transparency and accountability. she did that on her own. not with some attorneys and all like the emerson group who put in the 15 year old contract without the community knowing anything about it. so, i'm here to tell you that valerie is like joan of ark. therefore, i have gone out of

my way to sit down with valerie so she presented to me exactly how the program as it stands today is run. anyone can say i don't want to do anything about the thing, you got to know about it. you got to uplift anybody who is involved with sip. don't stay away from it. if you stay away from it, you are showing you have some bias. we need to uplift one another. okay? i hope you commissioners get that clear. thank you. >> thank you. >> do we have any other members present who wish to provide public comment? seeing none, moderator. any callers with their hand raised? >> mrs. lennear, there are three callers with hands raised.

>> thank you. >> caller, your line is unmuted. you have two minutes. >> my name is lisa butteler, i work-- >> caller, you still there? >> i am. thank you. my name is lisa, i am from--i'm getting feedback on the line. the person that coordinates the sip benefits for tuolumne river county schools, in this role what i do is coordinate with the school district itself as well as the multiple firms that are affiliated with the sfpuc sip program and from there i am able to coordinate two major events in tuolumne county. one of them is called, engineers in the school week and that activity what we do is put together and match teachers,

schools and volunteers frame each of the individual firms that go into the classroom and do presentations and site visits for each to help students understand the benefits of engineering and science. it is a very interactive process and a very fun experience. one thing that we enjoyed about this is the volunteers the teachers and the students all get great benefit out of it. one of my personal pleasures is working with the volunteers and helping them prepare. sometimes it is very difficult with someone with ph.d to need to do presentation for a kindergarten class. in that event through the combination of all of the firms working together as well as local volunteers not part of the sip program, but people in the community water districts and so on so

forth, we able last year to reach 1 in 10 students in the entire county. the reach is really very very sig nificant and been doing this seven years. another big event we coordinate-- >> thank you caller. your time expired. caller, your line is unmuted. you have two minutes. >> hello. my name is nancy barnes and represent stantech today. sinsh 2012 when the program initiated stantech and partners pcl construction and joe hill consulting engineers have provided over $2.5 million in community benefits including half a million in direct financial contribution and 10 thousand hours of volunteer hours within the community and within schools.

our outreach to different firms or different beneficiaries are comprised of building deep relationships and long-term relationships in order to provide continuous service. we look for beneficiaries with proven performance and responsive and when possible for force multiplication and in that case we may work with teachers to reach additional students. we work hard to create a career pipeline that starts with promoting stem in schools to job training, to internships and that has been a benefit of both funneling talented individuals to jobs that improve overall economic outlook and provide firms like mine and sfpuc with future employees. we also receive a benefit ourselves of connecting with the community, which helps us provide [indiscernible] and align with our values of

community service, connectivity and racial social and economic justice. we also have a great benefit of the fact that our employees love to volunteer within the community. it is something that helps us retain employees and provide them with something that is more then just the sum of their jobs. thank you. >> thank you caller. caller, your line has been unmuted. you have two minutes. hi caller, you still there? moving to the next caller. caller, your line is unmuted. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon everyone. judith. [indiscernible] honored to share how the sip program

enables us to help achieve our mission, which is drive equitable growth, build communities and achieve transformative social good. [indiscernible] san francisco base non profit that empowers under served communities through culturally relevant support and resources. grateful to sip fundsing for enabling us to expand our work with local entrepreneurs and promote economic development. in the past year, sip fundsing enabling to positively impact over a hundred individuals through initiatives that foster entrepreneurship, skill building and cultural preservation. providing black entrepreneurs with access to resources, mentsership and business development opportunities helping grow and succeed in verchers. this year we are expanding food and beverage programming with the new food pavilion at indian basin water park and

bayview hunter point providing black owned food business access to license kitchen and opportunities to support their growth. sip funding helps us meet community needs and drives a more inclusive economy in the bay area, particularly the bayview and with your continued support we are creating meaningful change and i look forward to continuing to make progress together. >> thank you caller. mrs. lennear, there are no callers who wish to be recognized. >> thank you. >> thank you for the public comment. commissioners, any further questions or comments? >> i just want to express support for the program and contractors and [indiscernible] and community have spoken and great to see the impact of the program so happy to support. >> commissioner arce.

>> yes, just another thank you to staff, to our employer partners and community partners and everyone involved and i would also like to move that we adopt the amendments to the san francisco puc sip program rules and regulations. >> seconded. >> thank you. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. >> thank you. next item, please. >> item 13, sunset covid-19 pandemic procedures for water and sewer customer bill collection and amend wastewater and water shut off and lien policies. >> privileged to serve as it

director of the sfpuc customer service bruro to provide a brief update oen the customer assistance program and request to sunset the moratorium on collections and liens and return to full collection actions for water and wastewater accounts. next slide, please. in april at request of outgoing commissioners i provided a customer assistance program update. the bureau has been operating the program in the currents format for 15 months. the pre-covid enrollment of approximately 1200 customers has grown to over 6700 customers and we process average of 190 applications monthly.

we began income verification at application july 2023 and expect to begin post-enrollment verification for customers not verified at application with crollp soon. big concern for commissioners at april update was customers denied access to the program received notification in the preferred language. we were able to implement this practice in august of 2024. excited to report that we were also able to get approval for a dedicated resource for this continuously growing program. which operates from csb 5 member high bill unit. the dedicated resource will be the puc only dedicated cap employee. this pilot project is funded for three years. the temporary staff administrator will be financed with non revenue

funds and will use data focus strategy to explore option to support those struggling to pay their bills. including seniors and veterans. we also plan for this resource to explore how to insure the most vulnerable san franciscans are enrolled in this program. next slide, please. in 2019, the legislator adopted senate bill 998, the water shut off protection act amended the california health and safety code to provide urban water supplies and community water to adopt a written policy regarding the discontinuation of residential service due to non praiment. payment. required 60 days after a customer is delinquent before termination. this commission adopted the puc policy in december 2019. in march of 2020, all shut off

and liens suspended in response to covid-19 global pandemic. it is 4 years and 7 months. we are requesting to return to full collection activities outlined in the policy adopted december 2019. next slide, please. the sfpuc has over 14 thousand accounts in arrears. as outlined in the staff report, rate payers not paying bills can result in challenges, revenue short falls, service cutbacks and more. threatening the utility long-term financial stability. lack of consequence encourages poor customer payment behavior. you note that prior to the moratorium, we averaged 2700 accounts with arrears over 60 days. after the moratorium, may of 2022 when we received the state relief

we had over 10 thousand accounts [indiscernible] after state funds were applied customer payment behavior declined further. in may 2023 we initiated shut off avoidance campaign an tisitation resuming in july. this compain caused a brief up tick in payment of arrears however prompted [indiscernible] note how customer payment behavior continued to worsen. spiking at $42 million and 15.500 accounts thrmpt is no more state arrearage relief and we are at 14.200 customer accounts and $25.7 million in arrears over 90 days. we must reinstitute consequence for non payment and insure everyone pays for the water and wastewater services they receive.

next slide, please. we designed and conducted customer outreach campaigns for targeted customer classes and plan measured to ease transition for staff and account holders. our goal is full resumption of all accounts types for all account types by january 2025 with deferral of instituting late payment until july of 2025. next slide, please. consideration of the concern for vulnerable customer populations, customers enrolled in the customer assistance program will be exempt from shut off provided they stay current with paying discounted bills. should they fall more then one year in arrears they lose that exemption. this commission adopted resolution april 2023 to establish a policy to temporarily exempt customers

with exstinchuating circumstances outlined here. customers receiving will be required to-to be on a pay plan and given the opportunity to apply for one time extension for maximum of one year exemption. next slide. in summary, requesting a restoration of pre-pandemic collection procedures including shut-off and liens. also requesting to establish $100 minimum account balance for shut-off or liens as outlined in the staff report. this is to align with the cost of service. finally, to formally establish exemptions for shut off and liens for ers enrolled in cap and those experiencing extenchuating circumstances by amending the rules and regulations governing for water service. thank you. >> thank you. commissioners, comments or

questions? commissioner jamdar. >> thank you for that presentation. how many of those 15 thousand or so accounts are part of the cap program? is that 6700 ish number i saw? is that right? >> the customers in cap are not necessarily a part of the customers in arrears. >> i guess for that is my question. what subset of the folks are vulnerable populations and--curious how that would be addressed. would they be enrolled in cap as part of the process? i'm it not very clear on how the two will work together. >> so, customers enrolled in cap could be exempt from shut off. what we are attempting to do is those customers who have adapted poor

payment behaviors and no longer payer their bills, they will-we'll try to change that behavior and get them back into a proper payment postture and if they dont pay they are subject to discontinuation of service. and shut them off. customers enrolled in cap program will be exempt from shut off, so wouldn't be impacted because they are most-vulnerable customers and struggling to pay their bills, however, everybody needs to pay their fair shares so those customers after a year, then would be-they lose that exsemption and subject to shut off if they continue to not pay their bills. >> you get your question answered commissioner? commissioner arce. >> i think that what the commissioner is getting at, what is the number of the people in cap that was what

you were trying to get at, right? >> [indiscernible] >> out of 15 thousand, how many are in cap? >> i don't have that number. >> okay. >> we can get that- >> i can get it for you, but i don't have it right now. >> thanks president stacy and thank frz the presentation director. i think again, thanking the general manager because we had a really great conversation and understanding the work across the whole bureau of business services, cfo hom and her team we got to hear an overview of the work of director anderson and the team, so again, thank you for that for helping us with on-boarding. being the new commissioners. and so i think what i wanted to ask, just in terms of due diligence as the commissioner rate payer advocate, i haven't gotten feedback one way or the other with respect to the proposal. it sounds like based on aging a lot of accounts there is expectation

this is moment is coming. i know there was really good job that the agency did with respect to the publicized kind of water bills that were some differed responsibilities that came all at once and questions and answers and payment plans offered, so that was my first-that is from this side of the work we do as commission and public to see the really great work you and your team do and the external affairs to publicize what those options are. i feel that backed into what is presented here and the fact that neither me and don't know any colleagues received feedback contrary to this proposal probably speaks to the fact that this is the appropriate path forward. my only question is in termoffs the landscape of other water agencies. are we similarly situated in terms of timing and let me just say,

based on our commitment to affordability, number one priority as outlined in the budget presentation to the city, i have to believe we are probably have been as accommodating about the financial challenges a lot of rate payers and people in society faced coming out of the pandemic. we have been even potentially more accommodating with our lead time then other water agencies so without kind of having to compare our agency and others around the state and the country, what is is your sense of our timing at this moment when we return to the pre-moratorium to the pre-covid policy established in 2019, have we given more runway then other agencies or the same or seen other agencies continuing these policies, if you have a sense? >> my sense is we are at the tail end of it. most of the water utilities i'm

familiar with returned to full collections--up to two years before that we will if we are able to get this approved to start by january. >> that was what i was expecting and consistent with the way that we are very customer focused as a agency, so thank you for that. >> thank you. could we take public comment, please? >> remote callers, raise your hand if you wish to comment on item 13. do we have any members present who wish to comment? seeing none, moderator, are there callers with their hand raised? >> mrs. lennear, no callers who wish to be recognized. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioners, could i have a motion and second on this item? >> move to approve.

>> second. >> thank you. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. >> thank you. next item, please. >> item 14, communications. >> commissioners, any comments or questions on our communications? alright. seeing none, next item, please. >> next item is item 16, public comment on matter to be addressed during closed session. >> item 15, items initiated by commissioners. any commissioners have items to initiate? indeed. thank you. now onto closed session. >> public comment on matter to

be addressed during closed session? any members of the public who wish to speak? moderator, any callers with their hand raised? >> mrs. lennear, there is one caller who wishes to be recognized. >> thank you. >> caller, your line is unmuted. you have two minutes. >> thank you. this is peter dreckmyer. i want to had encourage the commissioners when you discuss the sf ep a lawsuit to ask what role the commission plays in lawsuits. my sense is very little and they are coming to you now post mortem this case is before the supreme court. it could end up getting clean water act and i want you all to protect your reputation, because people--if san francisco wins this case and the clean

water act loses, people will be talking about this like [indiscernible] versus ep a last year. it is san francisco versus epa and people wnder how did this happen and how did progressive san francisco become a tool of the supreme court and they will look to see who is on the sfpuc commission and you will be blamed unfairly. i really encourage you to get to the bottom of what role you play in these lawsuits. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you for your comment. mrs. lennear, no more callers who wish to be recognized. >> thank you. >> please read the next item. >> motion on whether to assert the attorney-client privilege regarding the matters listed below. >> so move. >> seconded. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce,

[indiscernible] commissioner stepped away. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. [meeting reconvened]

>> back in open session. the commission took action to recommend settle ment for item 18, the unlitigated claim file 25-00425. james horhan, versus city and county of san francisco. because items 19 and 20 were discussion items only, the commission took no action on those two items in closed session. do we take public comment on-no, okay. we-i am requesting a motion

whether or not to disclose our discussions during closed session. >> i move we do not disclose our discussions. >> seconded. >> thank you. >> president stacy, aye. vice president arce, aye. commissioner jamdar, aye. commissioner leveroni, aye. the item passes. >> thank you. and the meeting is adjourned. thank you. [meeting adjourned]

forward/hospitality. >> heart of san francisco an aide so important diverse culture in the name for remarkable individuals like carlton b goodlett a man wheeg legacy is at the iconic lashed not just a man of intelligent his journey was far from san francisco good had studies earning a mountain lake cut off road in child psychiatric a city that is is campus for staff's contributions a city with a very different place when dr. good let was around and you would see

him on streets like the fillmore and what he did he mrs. minority healthcare to people who that did not have insurance or an ability to pay for that. >> dr. good working hard around city hall meaning he would load boxes with people and they would go to san francisco state mainly and other places as well and protest these unjust treatments and unfairness of their system. >> dr. good was a america civil service activity with naacp and protested for the discriminations against blacks and public transportation and

public housing and the reporter as most people come into the building today don't know who he was was district attorney know that not only was a physician, a activity but also an incredible cardplayer. in his spare time. >> and the won a number i published and the also ended edited another newspaper wells fargo willie brown and dr. good had a close relationship in the early 90s several groups got together to his own dr. good and put together petitions and worked very, very hard to have

the official address changed. >> dr. king's day of the celebration is in january, i got to call from mayor brown which i've known for in many, many years to ask me to change the street sign this is remarkable. okay. >> in january of 1999 right after the building reopened, mayor brown and i went outside at that moment it was still cold street we shut down the word on the sign that read polk. >> put up the sign that said number one, dr. carlson carlton b goodlett white. >> i think that he earned a

certain place in respect of all poem he was just a remarkable individual. unfortunately, we didn't live long enough here to see the street sign >> i'm sabrina, i own vintage in north beach san francisco. i started 7 years ago online selling vintage clothing and 9 months ago i opened my brick and mortar in san francisco.

i have always been passionate about vintage clothing. always just been so passionate about what i do and i felt it was the right time after 7 years online. i think it is what north beach needed. especially because vintage clothing is so good for the environment as well. very anti--i think it is great and a opportunity to be here. we have everything from the 20 to 90. i personally like to create more towards the 60 and 70 as you can tell. there is something for everyone. i just always want everyone to feel very welcome in here. i want to treat everyone like a guest in my apartment. i want everyone to have a good time in here and just enjoy all this very clothing.

>> come shop dine and play. taraval street is open for business. >> [indiscernible] the owner of tabita's on taraval on-my business is focus on [indiscernible] my mom's res aef and we make muffins and scones and cookies and everything home made. for me, it is being able to be a community cafe where everybody feels comfortable. please come in, play and eat at the tabita's cafe on 1101

teraival street. >> take time for teraival bingo, a community game supporting small business. anyone can participate. it is easy, collect special stickers on a bingy stale game board and enter a raff raffle event for a chance >> sanitation and streets commission. today is monday, november 18, 2024 >> >> roll call, please. >> commissioners