tv Police Commission SFGTV November 30, 2024 12:00am-1:01am PST
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pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of. one nation under god. indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. i would like to take roll, please. commissioner clay. present. commissioner walker. present. commissioner. benedicto. present. commissioner. yanez. present. commissioner yee. here.
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vice president carter. oberstein is in route. commissioner elias, do you have a. i'm sorry. president elias, do you have a quorum? also with us tonight, we have assistant chief david lazar for the san francisco police department and acting executive director jermaine jones from the department of police accountability. thank you. welcome. our two. well, one new face to the right. haven't seen you up here. welcome. got a raise from sergeant youngblood. well, there you go. he is the man in charge. and we have a new returning superstar to our left. so welcome, everyone. glad you could join us in the rain. let's go ahead and get this party started. one announcement. we are going to pull line item one. line item seven. line item 11 a as well as from line item three consent calendar. we will be pulling the donation from the poha from tonight's agenda. 11 a we're pulling. you said 11 a
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also. 11 a as well. yes. thank you. all right. line item two general public comment at this time. the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police commission, rules of order during public comment, neither police personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions to the public, but may provide a brief response. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways. email the secretary of the police commission at sfpd. commission at sfgov. org our written comments may be sent via us postal service to the public safety building, located at 1245 third street, san francisco, california. 94158. if you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. all right. good evening commissioners. my name is douglas styles. i'm the executive director and ceo of huckleberry youth programs. the staff from huckleberry youth
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programs and our carc program. denise coleman and kayci enriquez were part of the amazing working group for revising and redeveloping the dgo 7.01. we are so grateful to be a part of this process, and are eager for it to be processed through the legal team, and that presented here at the commission by your december fourth meeting. this tool is a powerful resource to guide and ground officers when they are in the field and may interact with young people. the last dgo is a little outdated, and so the sooner we get the new dgo approved, the sooner we can get young people having more equitable experiences with officers. we look forward to continuing partnering with sfpd and jpd to get referrals for the community diversion and kick off our pre-arrest diversion programing. thank you very much. thank you. and just to note, i think thank you for all the work that you and huckleberry do. they are a very i think, reputable organization. and we are i'm
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very impressed with the work that they do. my understanding is that we're going to calendar it in january or january. okay. thank you. what tentative. and just for the record, many years ago i served on that board. oh. you did. oh, i'm going to i'm going to research you a little bit more. oh, be careful about that. i'll also add to what president elia said, that the team from huckleberry house was tremendously helpful in the 007.01 working group, and we're very lucky to have their input and their service to the city. so thank you. great. thank you. i gotcha. thank you for showing up. thank you. and there is no further public comment. line item three consent calendar. receive and file action. safe streets for all. third quarter 2024 update sfpd's family code 62 eight quarterly report and sfpd, npa's sb 1421 and sb 16 monthly report. can i get a motion? motion to receive and file. second. thank you. any member of the public would like
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to make public comment regarding line item three. please approach the podium. there's no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner walker. yes, commissioner walker is. yes, commissioner. benedicto. yes, commissioner benedicto is. yes. commissioner young. yes. yes. commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner yee. yes. commissioner yee is. yes. vice president carter. overstone. yes. vice president carter. overstone is. yes. and president elias. yes. president elias is. yes. you have seven yeses. line item four. chief's report, discussion weekly crime trends and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents, or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for future meeting. chief laser. good evening. good evening, president elias. vice president carter oberstein. members of the commission. acting director jones. members of the public. members of the of the department. i'm assistant chief david lazard. this evening, i'm filling in for chief scott, and i'll be
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reporting out on the chief's report. so to start off with crime, thankfully, we are down this year, year to date, 30% with with almost 14,000 less incidences. total violent crime is down 14% with 693 less incidences. overall gun violence in our city this year is down 26%. what that translates to is 47 less shootings. we've had so far year to date, and we are down 34% in homicides compared to 2023, with 31 homicides. and i just want to note for the commission and for the public, this these are historic numbers for homicides that date back roughly to the 1960s. in terms of having that low one, homicide is one way too many, but we've at least had less than we had last year at this point, which was about 48. we also have a clearance rate in homicide. everyone is doing such a great job in this area with 83%. we
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had about 85% clearance rate at this point last year. still very high numbers for california and for our department. there were no fatal shooting incidences this week. i will describe though, one that came through. that's probably for the next reporting period that i want to talk with you about. and so far this year so far. so for the shootings and we'll talk about that in a moment. the vehicle break ins again, some historic lows last year at this point we had over 18,000 reported cars broken into. we'd see glass everywhere this year. so far, only 8238 down about 10,000 reported auto burglaries. very thankful for the work that everyone is doing there in terms of gun seizures, which makes sense as it correlates to us having a tremendous reduction in shootings so far this year, we've recovered 1039 firearms. we're noticing that we're
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recovering less ghost guns, but overall, 1039, we haven't seen numbers like this since 2018. in terms of some crime, we had one homicide on the 13th, our latest homicide of november 5th 36, in the morning at market in maine, where the victim was located in the middle of the street at market and main. the fire department arrived along with us. despite our attempts for life saving measures, the person was deceased at the scene. there's no arrests yet that investigation is ongoing. we had the one non-fatal shooting that i mentioned that i'll just talk about now. there was a shooting last night on the 11, actually, yesterday on the 1100 block of hollister, where a suspect fired at a woman who was in a window. she's she is pregnant. she was hit in the stomach area, but thankfully the bullet missed the fetus. and both the mom and the
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baby are in stable condition right now, and i have no update on any arrests at this point. moving on to property crime, we had a commercial burglary that occurred in union square on the 11th. we're starting to see quite frequently now where suspects are driving vehicles into commercial establishments. whether it's a dispensary, whether it's a high end store or other types of stores. so we had one at 242 in the morning on october 11th, where the suspects drove in and then they drove off at a high rate of speed. thankfully, the union square officers were there. they saw it as the suspects were coming out. the suspects fled the scene and they were lost in the area. so based on an investigation on november first, we had probable cause to arrest a 24 year old suspect on that case and some other cases. so there was a good arrest there. just also for note, you know, on a monthly basis, we have what's called a crime community strategies
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meeting in operations similar to the term compstat. but we do it differently. it's more like seminar style. yesterday we had all the operations command staff and captains in a room. we were talking about strategies for these overnight cars driving into businesses and just really collaborating and coming up with plans that we all can get on the same page with. on how to deal with it. moving on. there was an arrest of a burglary crew at 15th and vermont on the 7th of november. at 3:00 in the morning, bayview officers responded to a liquor store based on a burglary burglary in progress. suspects broke down the front gate, stole merchandise and cash, and then they fled. we believe the vehicle was involved in an earlier burglary in the mission. the officers attempted to stop the vehicle. the vehicle drove off at a high rate of speed and crashed on highway 101 near the seventh street exit. officers observed the suspect jumped off the freeway overpass and landed
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approximately 40ft down onto 15th and vermont. a firearm and magazine were located near the suspect, and the suspect was arrested. we also linked that suspect to some other burglarie, as mentioned. and then the last arrest, i just want to talk about before a couple last things, is in october. we had a multi-agency effort on narcotics, which included the sfpd narcotics unit, the sheriff's office, the dea and the army national guard. we conducted an investigation on a narcotics trafficker who sells narcotics in the tenderloin. we had probable cause was developed to obtain a search warrant for the suspect and the vehicle in oakland on the 13th of november, we observed the suspect in the lower nob hill area parked at california and polk. we had a foot pursuit with that suspect who threw some narcotics down and some other items. we took that suspect into custody and executed a search warrant in oakland, which resulted in about 68g of fentanyl, 101g of methamphetamine, 237g of
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cocaine, 82g of fentanyl pills, five grams of heroin, and about $6,000 in u.s. currency. so it was just a great arrest, great investigation. the last case i want to just mention is we had an officer involved discharge. i'm sure you may you i'm sure you're aware of on the 15th of november at 1050 in the morning at ellis and fillmore, officers responded to a report of three dogs fighting. they observed one of the dogs actively attacking a pedestrian. shortly thereafter, an officer involved discharge occurred where one of the attacking dogs was fatally struck within the vicinity. a second dog was corralled and taken into custody with the. with the assistance of animal care and control, a foot pursuit ensued for several blocks while officers were attempting to detain the third dog. during the interaction, an officer discharged their firearm. animal care and control were able to place the dog into custody. the pedestrian was transported to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries, and the
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owner of the dog that was attacked transported their dog to a veterinarian hospital for medical evaluation. this was a very chaotic scene. the officers actually witnessed an individual who i've seen the photos was being bit by two dogs on each arm and the dogs. the officers were doing what they could to attempt to resolve it. they were using less lethal. they were doing everything that they could and then resorted to discharging their firearm in order to save the life of the person that was being mauled. okay. and then the last thing i just want to mention, just for context, in terms of demak, the effort in the tenderloin, as of between 1103 and 1117, we've made we made 54 arrests in the tenderloin during that period of time. we seized 864g of narcotics, specifically 245g of fentanyl. and thankfully, we've
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had less overdose deaths this year reported. and very thankful for the effort of all the officers and also all our partners with dmac and for the work that we're doing. i probably tell the public what dmac stands for. yes. so dmac is the drug market agency coordination center. we kicked it off at the end of may in 2023, and it's our collaboration between all our partners city, local, state and federal in an effort to save lives and combat the narcotics sales in the tenderloin. and that concludes my report. thank you. quick question for you on the shooting in district ten. i know you said you don't have any arrests yet, but do you know if that was an isolated incident or an intentional. we believe that that was an isolated incident and where our investigation is ongoing right now. okay. okay. got you wowed the crowd. and there are literally no questions in the queue for you. amazing.
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or i put them to sleep one or the other. yeah. madam president, you're here tonight. were you wowed? i'm going to go with you. wowed them. so, sergeant, for any member of the public that would like to make public comment regarding line item for the chief's report, please approach the podium. good evening. i'm just here again to talk concerning my son, aubrey plaza, who was murdered august 14th, 2006. today to today, i'd like to use the overhead. this is my son, aubrey rubricosa, and i am looking for an email that finally i got a message from the mayor's office for dean preston. finally, the name for my son has
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come in for the 1500 block of grove street. and that is what the street name is going to be. so they're looking at this december 4th, our december 11th, for that sign to be unveiling. and i'd like to invite everyone here. this has been a thanksgiving for me and a christmas for me, that finally, this name is going to be put up on the 1500 block of grove street, and hopefully that other mothers and fathers will see this and be inspired and look up and probably fight for their children as well. so i would like to invite everyone in the name it says i'm just wanted you guys to see this beautiful. i am
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so happy about this. i just can't wait for the fourth or the 11th and hopefully some of you can come and support. i'd really like to have you there. i'm still going to come and talk about my child. i'm not leaving and this is not going to stop me though, but it's something. after 18 years, 18 years and i'm still looking forward to the, you know, james carter ulverstone to help with the tipsters, hopefully before the year is out. thank you. thank you and congratulations on that. please send the invitation to the commission staff so that they can ensure that we receive it. thank you. line item five d.p.a director's report discussion report on recent d.p.a activities and announcement. acting director jones, you're up. spotlight's on you, sir. all right. good
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evening, president elias. commissioners and ac lazar. i'll be brief. so our award winning audit division has finished with the report and sent a copy over to sfpd for review and response. multi award winning multi award. and we have asked for a response date of december 10th. our investigations and legal division visited the new site location over at park station and met with lieutenant well, now captain jonas, our office has opened 24 new cases and closed 26 since the last commission meeting. neglect of duty has made up the largest share of allegations since the last meeting. we currently have 20 cases that have been opened for more than 270 days, but 19 of those are told for our sustained cases pending final adjudication. we currently have 107 cases sustained by dpd that are pending with the chief.
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that's a reduction from last week's commission meeting, where there were 120, and we have five pending with the police commission, and we have a senior investigator, brant bayesian, in the audience. if anyone has questions and we can be reached at (415) 241-7711. and that concludes my remarks. wow. i think you may be the award winner in terms of time. couple couple. yeah. right. couple questions for you. you the audit that you sent over to sfpd that's due the response is due by december 10th. and then will you be presenting it to the commission or once our office receives the report back, the director will finalize the report and publicly post it and then wait for your agendizing. is that enough time for you? given the holidays? because did you just turn over the report to
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the to the department? or i believe director flaherty had the exit conference last week. last friday, i would say because of the holidays, it would be good to just go a little longer on the on the response. why don't you circle back with them just to ensure if we have to give some? because we have one meeting in december. so i'm hoping that we can get it all done and then have it first fresh and ready for our january meeting. okay, i'll circle back with the director. okay. other question is you said neglect of duty is the number one allegation. does that include body worn camera violations or is that a separate category? i can't remember. so body worn camera allegations aren't listed on our initial allegation sheet. this is just allegations that come from the public. so here i believe the highest was failure to properly investigate and failure to properly care for booker process property. so those were kind of the on the higher end. okay. yep. okay. vice president carter, acting
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director jones, thanks for the report. i guess i just wanted to ask what the anticipated timeline is for. after you receive sfpd's comments or responses on the audit, what is the finalization process? look on dpa's end. from my understanding, the director turns that around pretty quickly. i'd say within days if he doesn't have to change anything. great, thanks. you wowed us, but we had questions, sergeant, for any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item six. please approach the podium. and there is no public comment. line item eight presentation and discussion on sfpd and dps and dps. sparks report third quarter 2024 discussion. i did. sorry.
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good evening, president elias. commissioners chief, my name is crystal gandy. i'm the semi new commanding officer of the policy development division. i've been there a couple of months now. i'm here to discuss the quarter. three sparks report as required by police commission resolution 20 706. this covers specific information about policy updates that occurred between july first and september. september 30th of this year. i just wanted to note on the first page there was a duplicate entry. line seven and six and seven are duplicate, so we actually have 28 updates instead of the 29 that are listed. 11 items relate to dgo updates initiated by the 2024 annual review list approved by president elias back in february, 12 items addressed updates that carried over from 2023 prior to policy development division being established, and
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five items relate to prop e mandated updates after the close of quarter three, dgos 5.01, 5.03, 5.5.04, 5.05 and 5.06 were all issued to members. while not required, the report does provide an update on working group activity that took place during quarter three. our next steps for pd has. we compiled the 2025 annual review list for the dgos for the chief to revie, and we hope to get over to president elias by mid-december or so for approval by january. that's all i have. i'm happy to take questions after dpa presents. thank you. thank you very. let's see. so in the third quarter of 2024, our work focused primarily on working groups. one thing i've attached
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for the commission was a report that our office put together on dgo 5.20. i'm happy to announce that the dgo 5.20 working group has been working pretty collaboratively, and i think we may have had our second to last meeting yesterday. we got through amendments on the entire general order. it's been a very collaborative process and i've been really happy to work with hitesh in the pd department as well as steve betts and the subject matter expert officer garin, who the department put in charge of this process. i'm also on the sexual assault working group with commissioner benedicto, and that is moving forward. the department has stacked that working group with a lot of experts from around the city. too many to name. it's a it's a pretty big group and i'm very impressed by everyone's
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knowledge there outside of the working group participation, our office has sort of modified how policy interacts with the teams. the investigative teams, and so i'm called in to cases a lot earlier when we believe there's a policy failure and i work with the team and sfpd subject matter experts to try to write a report that helps move policy along. one case i wanted to spotlight was from one of the teams. they had a complaint from a victim of swatting. and as some may be aware, swatting is the act of making fraudulent 911 calls to provoke an armed response by police. the police department, we determined, did not have any guidance on swatting calls, though the subject matter expert that we talked to was aware of swatting, so we provided sfpd
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with a memo that was circulated by the federal government, as well as information on how other cities have attempted to mitigate swatting. this is sort of outside of the standard policy making process, so we'll be circling back with them in the future to try to help write some guidance for officers. and finally, i've been attending a lot of the cops d.o.j. trainings just to make myself aware of emerging policy issues. some of the classes i've taken recently are related to lep. it's how i ended up finding the cops portal looking into lep issues. they have a really great community policing course. it's actually three courses, all pretty solid. they have a good course on use of drones by public safety agencies, and then the final one was vehicular pursuits. so that concludes my remarks. d.o.j.
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classes that you take, are those available to officer? i'm not familiar with. oh yes. so the d.o.j. cops office has a portal and it has i think it's around 100 different trainings, all different areas. it's open to the public. so you can take it, officers can take it and it just enhances your knowledge around best practices. there are some that would probably be very relevant to the officers. so if they're interested, they can take it. can you send that the link or website to the commission office so we can post it on the commission website? yes. for the public to take a look at, we'll do a laser. do the officers utilize that portal or is that incorporated in the post training that they receive or the ongoing training they receive? yeah, we don't we haven't mandated officers to use the d.o.j. portal. it's just one of many resources they have to go for information. generally speaking, we either mandate training and most times it's
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through our continued professional training. but it's always good to let the officers know what's available. especially the information that you're describing is very timely. so i think it'd be good to look at. do they update it often? they do. i think the course on pursuit management came out last week. i get email notifications from cops d.o.j. when they put out a new course, so i take the ones i'm interested in or that are relevant. and you took the vehicle pursuit policy? yes. it'll be interesting to have it. well, maybe we should agendize a report on how the d.o.j. recommendation deviates or coincides with prop e. i'd be happy to write something for you. that'd be great. vice president carter oberstar. thank you, president elias. and thanks to acting director jones and captain delgaudio for that report. just one one question i
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have for the department. i'm looking at the table that you provided, item number 24, which is on the second page, 05.18. it says that post concurrence edits were completed in late septembe. and i'm just wondering what the status of that dgo is. i believe it's scheduled for december 4th, december 4th. before this commission. yes. and. can i just ask a not about any specific dgo, but just a general question now that the policy unit is under your supervision, which i, you know, we've we've seen some pretty divergent approaches to interpreting 3.01 the policy making process, depending on who's in charge. under director roche, there was kind of an understanding that was shared by
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pretty universally that under 3.01, when 3.01 is basically a cookbook, and when one step ends, the next step begins, whereas under mr. steve's supervision, we were introduced with a radically different interpretation of 3.01, which was that if there is, if it's not explicitly clear, the department can take as long as it likes in between steps. and now that you've had a couple of months to settle in, i'm just curious to hear where where you fall on that spectrum. that's a good question. i'm not sure 301 you know, it's a it's kind of like our bible. i read it almost once a week, and i'm still trying to interpret it as best i can. so you know, we're going to follow the policy. so i know there's a revision up up for it's up for revision again. so depending what happens with that
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and we'll go along with that. but you know got to follow the policy that's in play. now. so. all right. understood. thank you. good answer. thank you. thank you. vice president carter is going to be hot off the presses with his draft soon. so we will definitely have it before us. all right. sergeant, members of the public would like to make public comment. please approach the podium. all right. and there is no public comment. excuse me. commissioners, i inadvertently skipped number six. i will circle back line. item six. commission reports, discussion and possible action. commission president's report, commissioners reports and commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting. thank you. i don't think it was inadvertent, sergeant, but in any event, we have one meeting left for the
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end of the year. it will be december 4th, and then we will be dark, consistent with the board of supervisors schedule. i would encourage all commissioners to fill out the purple binder to make sure that any agendized items are written down so that sergeant youngblood can work on them and get our agendas going so that when we come back january 1st, we can hit the ground running. commissioner benedicto, thank you, president elias. just two quick items for my report. one is earlier, i think it was earlier this month. i attended the 30th anniversary of the death of officer james guelph. i know that assistant chief lazar was there as well. members of the family, as well as officers that served with officer guelph were also there and there were a number of moving things. his, his granddaughter, his children spoke. i think the one thing that i think really was a takeaway for me, that i wanted to share with the commission and
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the public, is that officer guelph's brother really channeled the grief and loss of the family into advocacy, and advocated with legislators, state legislatures and with congress to pass laws to restrict access of weapons to weapons of war like body armor, because in that specific incident, it was body armored assailant with an automatic weapon who had the sfpd significantly outgunned. and so to see something productive come out of that terrible tragedy was really something inspiring to see. and the second thing that i wanted to note for my report is i'll be i'll be putting it in the purple folder to agendize early next year in light of the january 20th inauguration of the new president. i think that sfpd needs to take a hard look at its current collaborations with the federal government. i know in 2016, there was a concerted effort to disconnect with certain federal task forces that felt in that were in opposition to san francisco's principles or
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other policies, such as sanctuary city policies. i know a lot of those connections were rebuilt in the last four years, and i think i want the sfpd to be ready for if there are things that are incompatible with san francisco's policies and principles. and so i'd like a report in early january before the inauguration, on those various pieces of federal cooperation. and what potential sort of plans are in place by the department for that? thank you. and given the holidays that are coming up and scheduling a closer, can you get that report or get a tentative draft to commissioner benedicto before mid-december? the answer is, is yes. however, i believe if i understood the intent of the report, it's for us to do an evaluation of the federal partners and the federal agencies and what some of their policies are and how they
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intertwine with us. and i, i believe we'd have to see what evolves and then be able to report back. unless you want to report now about how things work now. yeah, i think what i'd like to see in the preliminary report is what partnerships work are in place now, and what impacts would it be, what impact would there be if those partnerships had to be dissolved on the sfpd side? so in some cases, do we have a unilateral right under an mou? in some cases, is it not? are there funding implications for some partnerships? are there not funding implications for others. so i think that the commission, the department and members of the public can sort of see what the current state is and what the implications would be, regardless of whether, you know, we ended up keeping or dissolving some of them just so we know where we're at. okay. i think it would be also helpful to highlight for us what which collaborations you have with the federal government may conflict
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if the new administration takes a stance that doesn't coincide with our sanctuary cities, our immigration policies currently in place. so if you can highlight that for us to let us know which ones may would, would diverge with respect to our philosophies on sanctuary city and immigration, that would be helpful too. okay, understood. we'll do. and we can make our timeline. december 15th. and i think another thing i imagine would be easy, but if there were partnerships that we have that we know for a fact, we did stop in 2016, like i think those would be at the top of the list of things that might be at risk of being stopped again and probably be some low hanging fruit. like, i know there were some specific task forces that we stopped cooperating with. so if you know, if those could sort of be the top of the list as in 2016, we stopped cooperating with this task force or that would be helpful as well. okay. i'd like to agendize first week of january. okay. understood. thank. is there already a list that we had before? so you'll reconstruct that list and
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provide us with what we had 2006. and then after that, what are the flow is. yeah, we'll have to update it. yeah, yeah. thank you. sergeant, any member of the public would like to make public comment. please approach the podium. and there's no public comment. line item nine public comment on all matters pertaining to item 11 below. closed session, including public comment on item ten. a vote. whether to hold item 11 in closed session if you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. and there's no public comment. line item ten a vote on whether to hold item 11 in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10 d action motion motion to go into closed session. second. all right. on the motion, commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is. yes, commissioner walker. commissioner walker is. yes. commissioner. benedicto. yes, commissioner benedicto is. yes, commissioner. john. yes. yes, commissioner yanez is. yes. commissioner. yee. yes.
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commissioner yee is yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter overstone is. yes. and president elias. yes. president elias is. yes. benedicto is. yes, commissioner. yes. yes, commissioner. janez is. yes, commissioner. ye. yes. commissioner. ye is. yes. vice president carter overstone. yes. vice president carter overstone is. yes. and president elias. president elias is. yes. you have seven yeses. line item 13. adjournment. so have a good.
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i'm supposed to be at. i feel it in my heart. >> never in a million years thought i was going to be a police officer. >> [indiscernible] >> in san francisco you are dealing with a lot of mental health, narcotic use, and i'm glad i experienced it home personal, because then i take it to realize situations where i just understand it better. especially when kids are in the family home. growing up i wish i had somebody to talk to and i'm just glad i'm there to help people sit down and talk. >> when distany was 3 months old, i started baby-sitting destiny and destiny mom and dad were working and doing pretty well for being they were so young, and then later on while her siblings were born, then
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they got a little too much for both of them. they were not getting along well, and they both went their separate ways. and i stood with the children. i pretty much took care of them. >> my nomand dad have been in and out of my life. my mom would visit i say maybe once a month or maybe twice a month and i loved seeing her. when my mom would leave i would cry all the time and i was jealous of everybody that had their parents. i would go to school and see other girls with their moms and they got to do mom and daughter stuff and i didn't get a chance to have that. my dad was really good i say in the beginning of my life. he always came to our soccer games and he kind of just fell off track. got into narcotics. he was a meth user, and alcohol kind of took his life away. and learning that and experiencing that it made me
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stronger. >> her senior year, she seemed to be very happy. she was playing with friends and supposed to get an apartment together and go to college together and you know, one of her best friends winded committed suicide, and that changed her plans. but, she was very strong about it. she did go to college. come out of no where, i want to join law enforcement. an office job, right? no gradma, i want to be out. >> the thing that turned my curb path and whole life was going on a ride along with sfpd and i went to this crazy call and we were looking for a suspect and that moment was like, this is cool, maybe i can do this too. >> we supported her.
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we bought her a car so she can get about. she was working part time. she was doing cadet and going to college. >> i thought about it and let me apply and see if i can pass the test. i failed the first test, the physical test so i was like dang, can i actually do this? i told meself, let me try one more time and i passed the test the second time and maybe i could do this. >> i didn't like the idea. because she is too small! [laughter] she is too small, you know? y behind me is a 6 foot wall. i'm 4 foot 11, soethere is a height difference. i can barely reach the top. i'm extended so you center to jump it of course. with and without your gear. i hated this wall as firs. i would come every weekend to practice by myself a hour or two. i got a lot of bruisers from it but got over.
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and, she might be small, but she's tough. >> being 4 foot 11 i have a lot of obstuicals. the wall is 6 foot. there are bigger things out there where of course i have to stand strong, but i'm tough and have a attitude, so i'm pretty much 6 foot or maybe a little bit taller. >> when destiny was growing up i know she was going to do something good in her life. she had a big spirit. she is going to go big. [indiscernible] real big. [indiscernible] she is doing alright. i'm happy for her now. very proud of her. it doesn't hit until you see the uniform on her. not used to seeing the uniform. just normal kids that i raised. once you see them in uniform it is like, my god.
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awesome. parents loss, my gain. >> not in a million years would i think i would get into the police academy and now i'm here, which is crazy to think about, but it is it place i'm suppose to be at. i feel it in >> >> >> >> >> my name is bal. born and raised in san francisco. cable car equipment, technically i'm a
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transit operator of 135 and work at the cable car (indiscernible) and been here for 22 years now. i grew up around here when i was a little can i. my mom used to hang in china town with her friends and i would get bored and they would shove me out of the door, go play and find something to do. i ended up wandering down here when i was a kid and found these things. ♪ [ music ] ♪ ♪ >> fascinated by them and i wanted to be a cable car equipment from the time i was a little kid. i started with the emergency at the end of 1988 and drove a bus for a year and a half and i got lucky with my timing and got here at cable car and at that time, it really took about an average five to maybe seven years on a bus before you
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could build up your seniority to come over here. basically, this is the 1890s verse ever a bus. this is your basic public transportation and at the time at its height, 1893, there were 20 different routes ask this powerhouse, there -- and this powerhouse, there were 15 of them through out the entire city. >> i work at the cable car division and bunch with muni for 25 years and working with cable cars for 23 years. this is called the bar because these things are horses and work hard so they have to have a place to sleep at night. joking. this is called a barn because everything takes place here and the powerhouse is -- that's downstairs so that's the heart and soul of the system and this is where the cable cars sleep or sleep at night so you can put a title there saying the barn. since 1873 and back in the day it was driven by a team and now
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it's electric but it has a good function as being called the barn. yeah. >> i am the superintendent of cable car vehicle maintenance. and we are on the first and a half floor of the cable car barn where you can see the cables are moving at nine and a half miles an hour and that's causing the little extra noise we're hearing now. we have 28 power cars and 12 california cars for a total of 40 revenue cars. then with have two in storage. there's four gear boxes. it's gears of the motor. they weigh close to 20 tons and they had to do a special system to get them out of here because when they put them in here, the barn was opened up. we did the whole barn that year so it's difficult for a first of time project, we changed it one at a time and now they are all brand-new.
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engineer's room have the four monitors that play the speed and she monitors them and in case of an emergency, she can shutdown all four cars if she needs to. that sound you heard there, that's a gentleman building, rebuilding a cable. the cable weighs four hundred pounds each and they lost three days before we have to rebuild them. the cable car grips, the bottom point is underground with the cable. it's a giant buy strip and closes around the kab and they pull it back. the cable car weighs 2,500 people without people so it's heavy, emergency pulling it offer the hill. if it comes offer the hill, it could be one wire but if it unravels, it turns into a ball and they cannot let go of it because it opens that wide and it's a billion pushing the grip which is pushing the whole cable car and there's no way to let go so they have to have the code 900
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definitely faster and cheaper, there's no question about that. here at san francisco, we went through the same thing. the mayor decided we don't need cable cars (indiscernible), blah, blah. we can replace them with buses. they are faster and cheaper and more economical and he was right if you look at the dollars and cents part. he was right. >> back in 1947 when they voted that, i'm surprised base of the technology and the chronicle paper says cable cars out. that was the headline. that was the demise of the cable cars. >> (indiscernible) came along and said, stop. no. no, no, no. she was the first one to say we're going to fight city hall. she got her friends together and they started from a group called the save the cable car community, 1947 and managed to get it on the ballot. are we going to keep the cable cars or not? head turned nationwide and worldwide and city hall was completely unprepared for the
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amount of backlash they got. this is just a bunch -- the city came out and said basically, 3-1, if i'm not mistaken, we want our cars and phil and her group managed to save what we have. and literately if it wasn't for them, there would be no cable cars. people saw something back then that we see today that you can't get rid of a beautiful and it wasn't a historical monument at the time and now it is, and it was part of san francisco. yeah, we had freight back then. we don't have that anymore. this is the number one tourist attraction in san francisco. it's historic and the only national moving monument in the world. >> the city of san francisco did keep the cable car so it's a fascinating feel of having something that is so historic going up and down these hills of san francisco. and obviously, everyone knows san francisco is famous for their hills. [laughter] and who would know and who would
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guess that they were trying to get rid of it, which i guess was a crazy idea at the time because they felt automobiles were taking the place of the cable cars and getting rid of the cable car was the best thing for the city and county of san francisco, but thank god it didn't. >> how soon has the city changed? the diverse of cable cars -- when i first came to cable car, sandy barn was the first cable car. we have three or four being a grip person. fwriping cable cars is the most toughest and challenging job in the entire city. >> i want to thank our women who operate our cable cars because they are a crucial space of the city to the world. we have wonderful women -- come on forward, yes. [cheers and applause] these ladies, these ladies, this
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is what it's about. continuing to empower women. >> my name is willa johnson is and i've been at cable car for 13 years. i came to san francisco when i was five years old. and that is the first time i rode a cable car and i went to see a christmas tree and we rode the cable car with the christmas worker and that was the first time i rode the cable car and didn't ride again until i worked here. i was in the medical field for a while and i wanted a change. some people don't do that but i started with the mta of september of 1999 and came over to cable car in 2008. it was a general sign up and that's when you can go to different divisions and i signed up as a conductor and came over here and
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been here since. there were a few ladies that were over at woods that wanted to come over here and we had decided we wanted to leave woods and come to a different division and cable car was it. i do know there has been only four women that work the cable car in the 150 years and i am the second person to represent the cable car and i also know that during the 19, i think 60s and women were not even allowed to ride on the side of a cable car so it's exciting to know you can go from not riding on the side board of a cable car to actually grip and driving the cable car and it opened the door for a lot of people to have the opportunity to do what they inspire to do. >> i have some people say i
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wouldn't make it as a conductor at woods and i came and made it as i conductor and the best thing i did was to come to this division. it's a good division. and i like ripping cable cars. i do. >> i think she just tapped into the general feeling that san francisco tend to have of, this is ours, it's special, it's unique. economically and you know, a rationale sense, does it make sense? not really. but from here, if you think from here, no, we don't need this but if you think from here, yeah. and it turns out she was right. so.... and i'm grateful to her. very grateful. [laughter] >> three, two, one. [multiple voices]
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