cisco port commission for november 25th, 2024. roll call. president. kimberly brandon. vice president gail gilman. president. commissioner. willie adams. here. commissioner stephen engblom. here. and commissioner stephen lee. here.

item two is the approval of minutes for the october 8th, 2024 port commission meeting. so moved. second. we have a motion and a second. all in favor? aye. aye. any opposed? motion passes unanimously. the minutes of the october 8th, 2024 meeting are adopted. item three is public comment on executive session. is there any public comment on executive session? seeing none in the room. do we have anyone on the phone? let me open the lines for callers on the phone, please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. at this time. there are no callers for public comment. thank you. public comment is closed. next item please. item four is executive

session. there is one executive session. item conference with legal counsel and real property negotiator as agendized. motion to go into executive session. second. we have a motion and a second. all in favor? aye. any opposed? motion >> second. >> we have a motion and a second. all in favor? >> aye. >> motion passes unanimously. we are now in open session. >> item 6 the land acknowledgment. the san francisco port commission we acknowledge that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors and relatives of the ramaytush community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. item 7 is the

pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> item 8 is announcements. please be advised the ringing and use of cell phones are prohibitedism a member as up to three minutes to make public comment on each item unless a shorter period is adopted on any item. public comment must be in respect to the current item. will take in person and remote

public comment beginning with in person. for remote public comment dial 1-415-655-0001, enter access code, 26639801404, pound, pound. then dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment on the item discussed. audio prompts will signal when it is your turn to speak. if you are watching on sfgovtv there is a short delay. mute your device and listen to the meeting from the telephone with no delay. item 9, public comment on items not listed on the agenda. >> is there any public comment on items not listed on the agenda? seeing none, do we have anyone on the phone? >> at this time, there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you.

public comment is closed. next item, please. >> item 10, the executive director's report and for callers who wish to make public comment on this items, please dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment. >> good afternoon president brandon, vice president gilman, members of the commission. members of staff and members of the public. i'm elaine forbes, the port executive director. what is wrong with the front row? [laughter] it is a pleasure to update on our work in equity economic recovery, resilience and key waterfront projected toot. racial equity. november is native american heritage month. across the nation over 300 native languages were spoken. each representing unique traditions, many diminished due to past assimilation policy. this month is both a celebration and opportunity to reflect on resurfacing the rich traditions.

port staff recently viewed the reckoning, native american boarding schools painful history which reveals the abuse and family separation native children experienced in boarding schools. this deepens staff understanding and commitment to equity. launching in january this program in partnership with the bay area conversation development commission will host 20 public school kids, juniors and seniors, half from priority zil codes in a training program. student engage in hands on activities, site tours and expert workshops tied to bcdc shoreline adaptation plan and collaborate on group projects and a opportunity to apply for summer internships with the porlt. port. fisherman wharf, with community

district unveiled the revitalized promenade from powell and jefferson street to pier 45. seven pergolas [indiscernible] the welcome center opens the day after thanksgiving. two kiosks are on the promenade [indiscernible] a apparel brand and [indiscernible] this was made possible by our 1.43 million grant economic coverry and beautification. food wide holiday market for saturday december 7 at the ferry plaza farmers market. supporting 15 plus black owned bay area businesses offering food, crafts and more. this free events is cosponsored by the port and celebrate local entrepreneurs during the holiday season and it a wonderful event.

i'll move to resilience. to the world economic forum urban transformation summit. in october we hosted the walking tour of the embarcadero to show case the port climate adaptation efforts in partnership with sf ferry and hudson property. brought together government and private sector leadings. now to [indiscernible] on november 15, over a hundred public school kids participated in a king tide walking tour learning about the impact of sea level rise in partdnership with the exploratorium and sfucd environmental teacher fellowship. intergained in activities and explored science. this event was covered by multiple media outlets and shared on the

port social media highlighted commitment to educating young people. key projects and have a lot to share. last month we celebrated the opening of bay front park. a 5.4 acre open space center near chase. feature lawns, bay trails, plaza, steel structures and native plants and designed to withstand sea level rise and a absolutely beautiful park. ep a clean port grant early november the port and sf bay ferry earned (5) 500-0000 from the ep a clean portsd grant program to complete the first in the nation high speed zero emission ferry network. this funding will buy a electifyed passenger ferry for 400 passengers, electify the downtown ferry terminal and builds the final part of the mission bay ferry landing with

electric charging capability and funds maritime workforce development. the ferry ridership dwubled since 2010 and is rebounding strongly post pandemic so these investments position us to be one of it best ferry fleets in the nation. earlier this month joined mayor breed to announce a new civic partnership to redesign embarcadero plaza as part of the downtown [indiscernible] and the downtown sf partner integrate resilience needs and expand public place said. this isn't our land and we are not doing the project but i want to let everyone know but it is across the street. to projects we are doing, amdore street pump station roadway project. i think you want to advance the slide. this construction is expected

to start next month and complete in 2026, address the sewer infrastructure, damaged pavement. craen crane cove park is under construction for the dog park including the natural play area and children play structures and think it will be complete september 25. pier 23 repairs on the north apron damaged by a 2019 tug boat collision is underway and the pier 27 cruise terminal doing pile fender repairs from last year's ship collision. we have lots of projects underway. and that's closing i want to thank you all for your continued support. the initiatives the port is advancing show commitment to equity, economic recovery, and resilience and i look forward answering any questions and wish everyone a very welcome wonderful thanksgiving. >> thank you. great report. is there any public comment on the executive director's report?

seeing none, do we have anyone on the phone? >> there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you. commissioner engblom. >> thank you for the report director. a lot of good content. i would just say, i had the honor to attend personally high ambition climate coalition conference last week and there was presentation about what ports around the country are doing and the ferry system here was highlighted and there was a lot of interest from commissioners there, commissioner s from los angeles and san diego were interested in that so congratulations to the staff and the port that worked on that. thanks. >> thank you. commissioner adams. commissioner lee. >> well, elaine, great report. i really like the park behind chase. especially when they reuse the

bridge, the bay bridge girders as part of the artwork, which is very ingenius how the made the bridge. great the finally-i know the warriors have been wanting it is the ferry terminal to be activated so we can actually take water taxies from ferry buildings down to chase now without having to go through traffic. the improvements in fisherman wharf by pier 45 is great. we need to continue the tourism experience. i mean, social media has really pushed everybody to experience new things. videos and stuff, so my hope-because i was there with the fisherman last month and i want to--maybe you can schedule another meeting in the new year. i want to go to their pier 45

and see their how they do their operations. maybe we can help out mitigate some of the issues with the developer. my thing is, we are dredging behind [indiscernible] now, and i could see that we could put at least 15 fisher boats back there. fisherman boats back there and get that to be the off-boat sales terminal. we have a cruise terminal. we should have a place where the public can buy fish off boat. now only 5 boats can go in there now, so i asked them, do you guys fight? we sign up and deal with it later. it will be great if there is at least 15 berths in there to get set up and have the first off sale boat with commissioner gilman sign saying

buy your fish here. that is the future and should be the goal in 2026 to get that up and running for the summer. that's part of my vision for 2025, 2026, to have more visitor experience on our port. and fisherman wharf especially. other then that, it was is great. i look forward to 2025. >> thank you. vice president gilman. >> thank you director forbes for a great report and once again, i really want to uplift and congratulate the staff and all the hard work that went into the ep a grant. that was a large allocation on the west coast and look a lot of work with us to coordinate that, both for the electrification of it ferry, the ferry stuff, about we should really us and bcdc should be really proud of and it worked like to pull down the federal dollars to leverage the local resources

so i want to congratulate the staff. looking to 2025 and slightly on new business, and might be get wrong, but it was highlighted on the news cal maritime, the college we tried to link interns to has merged with cal poly san luis obispo so i love to understand more in 2025 what opportunities that could give us here in san francisco to either through internship program or outreaches, particularly some of the communities in the southeast waterfront how to do more linkage to have that be a education pathway for students in san francisco and the bay. lev to see how we can capitalize on that as a pathway to try to get more folks to the maritime industry and keep the linkage in san francisco. great report and great work on all fronts for the staff. >> thank you. elaine, thank you so much for your report. it is full of great great

happenings along the waterfront and just so wonderful to see all the educational activities happening here at the port, and all of the new parks. the new parks and upgrading of existing parks, it is just more to bring people to the waterfront so the staff is doing a phenomenal job. i are want to report that, i was able to attend the american association of port authorities with vice president gilman, director forbes, mike, andreand [indiscernible] it was a great conference. there was a commissioner symposium one day and several workshops and panels with great information. also gave us a chance to bond as commission and staff and really get to know each other better and just really commend director forbes

leadership and how she has made this such a wonderful place for everybody to work at the port and how well respected she is. we were also able to meet with the california association of port authorities and have dinner and we got that sneak notification of the billion dollars that went to grants to the california port so everybody was so excited at the conference and then to come back and have the press conference us receiving the $55 million grant and staff continue tado a great job and finding resources to fund the port. thank you. next item, please. >> item 11 is consent calendar. for callers who wish to comment, please dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment. 11 a, request retroactive approval for members of the san francisco port commission to travel with port

staff to boston, massachusetts on october 27-30, 2024 to attend the american association of port authority annual convention. that is resolution 24-52. 11b, request approval to adopt the 2025 port commission calendar which sets dates outside of regular meetings held on second tuesday of each month and the 4th tuesday during the month of february and april. resolution 24-53. >> make a motion to move the consent. >> second. >> we will open up for public comment. any public comment on the consent agenda? seeing none, do we have anyone on the phones? >> there are no callers for public comment. >> okay. we have a motion and a second. all in favor? >> aye. >> the motion passes. resolution s 24-52 and 24-53

are adopted. >> item 12a, informational presentation regarding the recommended contracting strategy to advance waterfront resilience program. for callers who wish to comment dial star 3. >> madam president, i will recuse myself from 12 a-c. essential conflicts i may have. >> okay. thank you. >> good afternoon president brandon, vice president gilman, commissioners, director forbes, members of the public. brad benson, the port waterfront resilience program director happy to have time to talk about our proposed contracting strategy to support the work have been doing and the resilience program over the next 5 or more years. we were last in front of the

commission providing major updates last december. we talked at that time about the work we have done under our existing program madgeagement contract, the jacob contract and authorization to advertise rfp's for a number of design contracts for early projects, so this is a follow on to that presentation. we want to provide a high level overview of the contracting strategy, talk about program milestones over the course of this year and recommended next steps for the program. we'll talk about the work in the program over the next 5 years as see it now,b provide a high level over view of budget and describe in more detail those proposed contracts and how they relate to one another. and before i dive in, i wanted to mention that we have

representatives from our sister agencies here. these are folks who have been working with us to develop the draft plan with the army corp of engineers. mia small from sfmta, jeremy shaw from the planning department. sharea sara [indiscernible] puc and eric vaughan. it is a honor to work with them and colleagues on the work so thank you for being here. also have all the resilience program staff here today. they have been working together on this so if i can ask folks to raise your hand from the resilience program. thank you for being here. so, as i mentioned, the program is largely supported by one contract since 2017. it is a program with ch2m now jacobs providing program management service, engineering, planning and environmental

services. it is the work horse contract for the program. now we are moving to a phase in the program where we really need to diversify that contracting strategy and so we are proposing a new program advisory services contract. a five year contract for $40 million with a extension option up to 5 years and additional $40 million subject to the commission approval. that extension option. we are seeking your authorization to advertise thatd contract with item 12b on the calendar. we mentioned those design projects that you authorized us to advertise. getting ready to advertise those contracts. there will be three of those design contracts to design four projects. the [indiscernible] j9 replacement project, the pier 15 and pier 9 seawall earthquake

safety project, similar design work so those would be combined in one contract and then the south beach resilience project for which we have a coasting conservancy grant. we are expect to be back to the commission with a request to award in the spring of this next year. and then we are poposing two additional large contracts to advance planning and design of the army corp draft plan. we are proposing to break these up into a southern waterfront contract for up to 10 years and $50 million, and then a northern waterfront contract that include design of the downtown coastal resilience project in this area up to 10 years and $65 million. that additional cost in the northern waterfront is due to design that downtown coastal resilience

project. we hope to be back to the commission in january to seek your authorization to advertise those contracts and we'll have more detail about the scope at that time. now we'll go over what happened this past year. it has been a blur, but a lot of good things happened earl ea in the year we released the dpraft report with the army corp engineers that included a draft plan for coastal flood defenses. we engaged in robust public engagement over the successive two months. multiple events, presentations to regulatory agencies. we had all most a thousand people participating. and heard very robust feedback, but a lot of appreciation that the army corp and the port and the city were

pursuing this work. i will say one big city comment we heard in the city comment letter was, really desire for the city to lead design of the draft plan. this is a very unique waterfront highly complicated in terms of the city infrastructure system and there seemed to be a unified sense from city departments the city should lead that design efforts opposed to the army corp. in summer the end of june we had something called the army corp agency decision milestone. this is really where the senior leaders of the army corp get together reviewing the work of the project delivery team, hearing about all their technical experts across the corp and how they commented on the plan and they were very pleased with the work and endorsed the plan. that is a keymile stone.

they recommended an additional $3.2 million to complete the study by 2026. we will be back to you we hope in december with a recommendation to amend our agreement with the army corp to account for that additional budget to complete the study. and on to our recommendations for next steps for this work. we have about a year and a half of work to complete the study. that would result in a chief's report to congress. we hope in time for the 2026 water resources development act. we are proposing the next year when most of the technical work is done to advance design of the draft plan under an agreement with the army corp. which would lead to then city lead construction of first actions. so, let me talk more about the

work program over the next 5 years. we got 6 early projects that are advancing through design. these have been most of them accept for pier 50 project through the alternative analysis process. they are all most at conceptual design. we got the budgets for each of these projects as we know them today. we will have firmer understanding of budget, scope and schedule when we reach the 10 percent conceptual design. there is one thing i want to point out which is two of them the downtown coastal resilience project and the south beach resilience project are actually potential early implementation actions of the army corp plan. we are posing to rebuild the shoreline, seismically safe, elevate the shoreline. these projects have the potential to be the first action for the army corp plan and the reason that's important is there is a way we can get

credit for our expenditures on these projects towards future 35 percent match when congress approves the project. so, that is a big part of the financial strategy we are recommending today is we focus our expenditures in a way that can earn credit towards that future match. the other plan i want to make about this is the way we structured our projects is with decision stage dates. so, right now we are working our way up to conceptual design, there will be later decisions to advance the final design and construction, including the contracts the commission would authorize to support that work and that's to enable port leadership to really meter spending to available resources. we are resource constrained. that's the early projects. let me move on to the big effort to advance planning and design of the army corp draft plan.

i talked about dividing this effort into the southern waterfront segment from about mission creek down to the port southern boundary and then the northern section also from mission creek up to fisher manufacture wharf including the downtown coastal resilience project. these are big efforts that will be looking at how are we treating all the city infrastructure systems. the light rail facilities in the future adaptation zone. the combined sewer system. how we manage inland drainage. we decided to recommend splitting these up into geographic areas because there is a lot of work here and we are worried about capacity of teams and think it is better to have two consultant teams advancing the work so we have strong players from each of the teams doing the work. we were proposing to divide this fwh to

three stage dates. again, decision gates to help port leadership meter spending over time to available resources. you will see we think we can advance the work over the next couple years for $15 million per contract. expenses will go up towards the tail end of the contract s. when we identified areas where we want detailed design of early implementation actions. now just to go over the proposed budget for a moment. this is described in more detail in your report. president brandon, you recall you asked we provide an overview of the waterfront resilience program budget that we dont just come a port capital request but try to paint a complete picture. that is what we are trying to do here is looking out over the next 5 years. the combination of bond and

other sources that will be needed to support the program, and you note that that totals through 29-2030, $742 million, which is in excess of the funding we have today, so we have a clear funding gap and i want to go into that in more detail. so, looking at proposed expenditures, and then anticipated sources, we anticipate a gap of $275 million. about hundred million dollars in bond funding and $175 million in other sources to be able to do all of this work. just harkening back to the stage gates, that is why the stage gates are important. we can go out and pursue other sources, but if we dont realize those sources we can meter the work. what sources are we looking at

in order to fill that gap? we have made the case to the city the office of resilience and capital planning and city administrator that we really need this program, this large city serving program to be reflected in the city's 10 year capital plan, so we need sources beyond the port's capital program to support this work. we are looking for contributions from other departments and started to see those. we think transportation funding is a key part of the picture because all the transportation sources impacted our colleagueed at mta are working on a protect grant application now to fund some of this work. there is new general obligation bond proposed for 2028 in the amount of $250 million. that is not guaranteed. that is just a proposal and the

city go bond planning, but we need to support planning for that bond. california voters just adopted proposition 4, the california climate bond by a good margin. we helped develop some of the language in that bond to support urban waterfront adaptation, so we think that is a likely source for the program and then if the project is authorized by congress in 2026, that opens the door to federal sources through the army corp of engineers. that is the overarching strategy to fill the funding bap and we owe you a more detailed funding plan in the new year. so, i want to close by describing the relationships between these contracts. so the program advisory services contract is really a tool by which we'll help manage some of these other contracts.

through that contract, we'll have program management support. this is advice to help build the program as we scale up. we do our environmental clearance work through the program advisory services contract. independent cost estimating and design reviews. work contracts coming from other design contracts will be reviewed here and get independent cost estimates to support our planning-program planning going forward. we heard the importance of hazardatize materials and addressing contaminated sites. this contract will be the vehicle through which we do that work, and then in consultation with partners at the public utilities commission, also look at inland drainage, combined flooding analysis through this vehicle. that will help us provide oversight for the early projects contracts. and then very similarly for the planning and design contracts

for the army corp draft plan, we'll have similar program oversight through this contract. so, in closing, we are taking a big step here from one major contract to support the program to 6 contracts here. much greater er dollar value, metered through stage gates. making a clear recommendation to advance the army corp draft plan with city and lead and army corp looking over the city shoulder as we advance design. and so i think i'm done there. staff request feedback on the contracting strategy and the terms and scope of the contracts. we are here to answer any questions you have. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> great report.

now open up for public comment. is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, do we have anyone on the phone? >> at this time, there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you. public comment is closed. commissioner adams. >> excellent report. i appreciate that you brought the whole team here. clearly this is a team effort concept. i'm hoping that-we have gotten a lot of funding and support from the government and i know our government will change in january. we all know that. i hope that we continue to lobby in dc, both sides and not look at the party, but look at the issues. this is too important to get caught up in politics. we got to deliver on this. this is important for future generations because there are

those that don't believe in sea level rise and off shore wind and we got to be patient and calm but we are in the middle of this and get this thing done and hope we can get bipartisan support to finish this project because it is too important. we are right in the middle of this and might be in the middle of a storm so i appreciate it. let's continue to do anything you need from the commissioners, but let's make the moves we need to do and play chess, checkers and make the moves we need on that board to get this thing done and we need to deliver this for our great city of san francisco and for future generations. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner lee. >> i have no comment other then it is a lot of money. you know, when you design these things, what is the usual lifespan you guys think about? 50 years down the road? it takes 10 year to get this

thing planned. 15 with delays, and finally start building and all a sudden your design is obsolete. how do you guys--i'm not a engineer, just a businessman but how do you forecast? and >> it is a good question and director forbes asked similar questions of the team. we look out over 7 and a half miles of waterfront and clearly not going to design and build all that within the next 10, 15 years. it will take decades to build that out. we are hoping to move efficiently through the design process with the army corp. i know this is their expectation is we design efficiently and we will try and move through the planning process just far enough to identify the locations where we will build first. so, i talked about that downtown coastal resilience project, we are really looking there at a

project that is just a little north of the ferry building and extending down to about the bay bridge or maybe not even that far. that could provide important flood defenses for bart and muni, so they dont flood, and that's a implementable project within the next few years. we hope we can get through design of the project in the next three plus years or so with permitting and be in the ground constructing. and then as technology changes, as the city shoreline and neighborhoods change, we'll undertake design efforts at a later point, factoring in the changes so what we design today isn't obsolete. i don't know if that gets at your question. >> pretty much. i hope that some of the research done under our small businesses and northern waterfront, because part of our

delay of renting these places is because the infrastructure underneath and so if somehow you guys can think of some priority depending how you look at this thing, otherwise we'll never fill those storefronts, because they rely on us to fix those before they move in. >> if i could comment on the fisherman wharf restaurants. the resilience program isn't going to be the way in which we resolve those particular restaurants in any major way, because as you recall from the program, fisherman wharf is higher line level so it lead the seismic conditions to the port and the city to resolve and the brokering to fill the restaurants is working. we have dinosaur restaurants that need a lot of work and put tenant improvement dollars in. we'll come soon to talk about the strategies and megan economic

recovery report you will hear more, but i didn't want you to feel this will take [indiscernible] >> it is unclear because when you say you think it is whole 7 and a half miles, but it is going to be up to a certain point and then affcourse we have to take care of the rest. okay, that clears myself on that. you know where we are going. that is my concern is them and the fisherman. we are spending all this money, mine as well fix it all. >> i with will say director forbes direction to look how to leverage these investments to improve port facilities so hopefully we are opening up those retail and other opportunities. >> great. thank you. >> thank you. vice president gilman. >> thanks for a great report. my comment is i like the strategy. i like breaking up the contracts and like the stage gates looking at

the long game on it. we have other items related to this coming up, but i really appreciate it breaking up between the sorn southern and northern waterfront so good strategy. >> thank you very much. >> thank you brad. this was a great report and thank you for giving a overview of everything. like commissioner lee said, it is a lot of money. i really like the collaboration between the city departments. i think that is great and will put us as advantage if we work together from the beginning because it will take everyone to really make this happen and i think that an outstanding job is done on public engagement. i don't think there is anybody in san francisco that doesn't know about our resilience plan. i think a really good job was done and i do support the city leading

the design effort. i think that's great too because again, it will take all city departments to make this happen. we all need to be on the same page and collaboration, so thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next item, please. >> item 12, b, request authorization to advertise request for proposals for 5 year $40 million contract with an option to extend for up to 5 years and up to an additional $40 million to support the waterfront resilience program. this is resolution 24-54. for callers who wish to comment on this item, please dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment. >> commissioners. so, this is a follow on item about the first of these major contracts. the program advisory services contract. i will give a little bit of overview about the jacob's contract then

talk about the capacity term lbe goal and funding for this proposed contract. go at a very high level over proposed scope and seek your authorization to advertise this contract. you may remember this image from the december staff report through the jacob's contract. we really built the waterfront resilience program from glound up starting with the multihazards risk assessment. looking at seismic measures and flood measures, arrange of alternatives to support the coastal flood study, prop a projects selection, advancing those prop a projects through the stages of pre-design to get to this army corp recommended plan and the early projects we are working on now. the remaining scope of this contract is going to get us through june and no farther.

it will be hard to get through june under this contract. we have really been trying to limit how much we are using it and want to focus the efforts on completing the army corp study. there is a missing bullet here. there are really two things this contract is going to do between now and june. provide program management support for all the different disciplines of work that need to be complete frd the flood study. and also engineering and cost estimating. the army corp is looking to us to provide some of those services. and that will exhaust the $60 million contract that the commission has authorized. for fuller explanation of the contract i point folks to the december 2023 staff report that details the work done under this contract. so, we are proposing a new program service contract with initial 5 year term and $40 million.

there would be a option to extend up to $40 million and up to 5 years. subject to port commission approval. we think it isn't likely that this item will start until probably summer of this year, so it is already out of date. cmd, the contract monitoring division issued a 20 percent goal. there is a memo from cmd attached to your staff report and we are looking at three funding sources to fund the work under this contract. proposition a bond funding, port harbor funds for non bond eligible expenses, and our colleagues at the sfpuc suggested they can provide funding to support some that inland drainage and combined flooding work we talked about earlier.

getting into the details of the scope of work. management support and program planning is very complicated putting together a program like this. this new team will take on the work following where jacob's left off. support interface with army corp. we really need this detailed army corp expertise. we know where we have been with army corp but don't always know where we are going and army corp regulations are very complicated. looking for technical review and independent cost estimate and cost verification. we'll do all the environmental compliance work under this contract. we are looking at communications support both for the early projects design and for advancing planning and design of the draft plan with the army corp. funding and advocacy support to your point commissioner adams, we

need to be out there looking at all levels of government for additional sources to fill the gap. this is a non-bond eligible expense under this contract. looking for opportunities to develop both port and city staff through training opportunities related to resilience and program development at this scale. i think this is something that our unions are going to welcome is that while we bringing on experts to support the program, they are sharing some of the expertise with city staff so we can grow as well. there will be capacity under this contract to enter into pre-design of new early projects, but i want to be clear about what this is. so, you'll recall that the army corp draft plan only rebuilds the coast up to pier 27 and relies on flood

proofing up in the wharf area. it may be port leadership wants to advance more early projects up in the wharf. this would be the vehicle through which we would do pre-design of those projects. we'll continue our work on workforce development and small business engagement. i will say director forbes, i was inspired by the discussion last week about the ep a grant and some of the workforce development that is happening there to get people into the maritime unions and your mention of the seawall in that discussion. we really need to builds a workforce and provide opportunities for our local residents. then that interior drainage and utility coordination work and importantly, real estate coordination is one of the obligations of a local sponsor and remember army corp project is we make the land development to build

coastal flood defenses that requires close coordination with tenants thinking about potential tenant relocation when that is needed. this will help us put together the plan for how we go about that work. so, that's the high level over view of the scope. under the resolution we are requesting authority to advertise for this contract. we will do broad outreach. we think there will be a lot of interest in doing this work for the waterfront resilience program based on initial market response. we do want to flag for perspective bidders that including subcontractors that there are potential conflicts of interest here that they will need to consult with their attorneys about to determine their own conflicts. and with that, i will stop and ask if the commission has any questions. >> thank you. great report. can i is a motion?

>> make a motion to move the item. >> second. >> is there any public comment on this item? seeing none--is there anyone on the phone? >> at this time, there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you. public comment is closed. commissioner lee. >> no comment. >> commissioner adams. >> i want to go back to something that commissioner [indiscernible] i looked it up. we were in new orleans 5 years ago, president brandon and megan they spent over $14 billion and they said now that after 11 months the levies will only be good for about 4 years. he asked about the amount of money and president brandon also said that, that is a lot of money and we saw that down there.

$14 billion and was asking how long is this hardware good for. i am in support of this, but i just look this up and that's something to think about, spend $14 billion and only good for 4 years and have to think about it. thank you commissioner lee. >> that reminds me that i may not have provided a tote aelg clear answer on this. we are looking at design life for all the improvements that we are planning to build of 50 years or more and so for the multibillion investment we are looking for a lot longer design life then you are talking about. >> [indiscernible] >> i was not aware of what you are talking about with new orleans. that was news to me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. vice president gilman. >> i have to clarify questions. peaks my curiosity. could you elaborate on scope

number 12? i am [indiscernible] workforce development and small business engagement means. >> do you want to take this one? >> dpood afternoon. we will have a lot of work and we don't know what the workforce is right now and how to train them for this work coming up and we dont know which projects will go into construction. once we have a better idea as design moves forward we will be able to know looking backwards from start of construction to plan for the workforce. this contract will help us do that. help us determine what the current state of the workforce is now, where the gaps are and how we can train people to be ready for the contracts that go out for construction. >> okay. >> for small business engagement it is trying to get as many lbe and small businesses able to participate in our contracts. >> okay. thank you.

that's not what i interpreted so i appreciate the clarification. >> sure. >> thank you so much. and then, you mentioned the very end that people bidding on or looking at this need to check their conflicts of interest. sorry, can you talk more about that? >> let me give one example. there will be high level guidance in the rfp that go out around this, but i talked about the program advisory contract and how under that contract there will be review of designs that are coming from other contracts and also independent cost estimating. you can't do design review of your own design. >> got it. >> or cost estimating of your own design. so, if in the program advisory contract you can't do those other design- >> you are basically saying you won't bid on those other things or doing

those other services. >> yeah, but channelling the city attorney it is up to each bidder to consult with their own attorneys to figure out their own conflicts in the contracting situations. we'll provide high level guidance, very similar to what the puc provides, but we are not going to provide detailed advise to perfective bidders on this. did i get that right, michelle? >> thank you. yes, you did. one thing that all the bidders will have a opportunity is submit questions in a open forum while the bid is open so if there is confusion we will be able to give clarity, but we do not advise [indiscernible] we dont advise the individuals you will be contracting with. >> these contracts will come back to us for ratification? >> yes. >> we feel there is a conflict someone has fire [indiscernible]

i am concerned now that i don't-about awarding a contract to someone under this that might be coming around as a part of the subsidiary, like a large company with multiple channels and multiple divisions that you peaked anxiety a bit. >> it is something we are keeping on eye on and consulting with the city attorney and looking how other departments like the puc explain these potential conflicts to bidders. we just want to provide as much information as we can so people can navigate this process and choose where they want to put their energy bidding and yes, all of these contracts are coming back to the commission. you will know if there is contversery when we get ready to award. >> okay. i think in the good government we are are in now and always in and particularly now always good to be

careful. thank you for the clar fiications and supportive of the item. >> thank you. great report. i want to thank jacob's for getting us to this point. i think we had a great working relationship and so i want to acknowledge all the work they have done over the past 4, 5 years to get us to this point, because we are at a great point. my only question is regarding the scope of services and how do we know how much will be in each scope? meaning, how much will we spend on staff development? how much do we spend on communication or are we leaving that up to the respondent to tell us what we need? >> so, this is again a task based contract. we are not going to ask people in the bid process to provide bid amounts for these subtasks. the contracts for $40 million,

5 years, and when we go to issue a task request to the contractor, we'll provide a high level scope for the work we want them to do and they will provide a proposed budget for doing that work, which we then review at multiple levels within the port, so we review within the resilience program, it is also reviewed by finance and admin and that bid amount can either be a lump sum, for which they complete all the work, or a time and materials estimate that would be built on time and material basis, so that is the way the task based contracts work. >> interesting. so, how we work in the past is we had a scope of work and wehole pots of money going to each scope approved by

the commission and then tasks were done however they are done. so, are you saying that we just have a open $40 million and when will commission see how we are spending this money? >> this similar to how the jacob's contract was set up. it is exactly the same and similar to how engineering needed contracts are set up. there is a amount for total contract and then staff go develop specific scopes and get bids from the contractors to fulfill that work. we would provide regular updates to the commission and we could do that on a quarterly basis. >> i just remember before approving contracts we have seen the scope of work. we have seen how much we want to spend on communication.

we have seen how much we want to spend on environmental review. funding and advocacy. i'm a little confused here. it could be me. >> actually, when they submit the bids there will be a fee proposal and broken down by scope. we will present-this is a task based, so these are estimates. >> i get that part. i get that. >> you will be able to review and approve the final contract that way. >> okay, so when does that happen? >> when we come back for award in-- >> so-okay. okay. >> in the proposal they will have the breakdown. >> so, i guess that was my question. the respondent will tell us what they think they need to spend in each area in order to complete the task.

>> their proposal-there will be a negotiation submitted and once the port and consultant agree on a final scope and budget we will present that to you. >> got it. okay. thank you. i appreciate that. thank you very much. those are my questions. whether all in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? next item, please. >> item 12c, request for approval of appropriation of the third bond issuance in the amount of $124 million of 2018 proposition a general obligation bonds known as the embarcadero seawall earthquake safety bonds to support program advisory services early projects and the san francisco waterfront coastal flood study general investigation. flood stuzy.

resolution 24-55. for callers who wish to comment, please dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment. >> i am back. carlos with the waterfront resilience program. thank brad for presenting the path forward and here to ask permission to fund it. so, this is a third bond request. this one is $124 million. we had two prior bond requests. the first bond sale of $49.7 million. we pretty much spnt all of it. there is about $150 thousand remaining with 130 that cost of issuance, so the controller audit fund and go box fee. first bond sale is expended. the second bond sale, which is 2023, we spent $14.2 million. the remaining funds in the bond sale will go towards the $21 million

in contracts that brad discussed in item 12 a design contracts. and you'll see here how we spent the bond to date that 22.2 balance again the $21 million of design contracts will come from here and so this get us to spring of 2025. the third bond sale will take us forward. i do think it is a good highlight. of the bond expenditures 25 percent of it had gone to lbe and i will be back in a future commission meeting to give more detail presentation on where those funds went. so, this is how we plan to spend our funds to the next 2 and a half years. you see the full bond amount, $124 million, 110, 111, 90 percent is for contracts. there is a lot of opportunities

for work and lbe to provide services in the contract brad discribed in the presentations. this bond sale is part of four bond sales for total of $571 million. we are part of the earthquake safety emergency response bond and two affordable housing bonds. so, we are here today ask permission or approve resolution to authorize appropriate $124 million. we already have been to the capital planning committee and we went couple weeks ago to budget and finance. we are here today to ask your approval and we go to the board of supervisors the following week for the approval of first vote. bond sales we expect to be in january which hopefully will have the funds soon after and continue to fund the

program forward. and that's my presentation. >> thank you. >> any questions? >> thank you. can i have a motion? >> i move the item. >> second. >> is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, do we have anyone on the phone? >> at this time, there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you. public comment is closed. commissioner adams. >> i am in favor. what does labor include? >> pretty much management of the contract. port labor working on individual early projects is inclooded included in the early project line item. >> we won't see that? >> [indiscernible] >> steven reel. okay. thank you. >> commissioner lee.

>> how much that is work in the ground? other then planning? i can see the big lump sum and see studies after study. how much of this-do i see a yellow graph of actually sticks in the ground or concrete being poured or is this all still in the planning stages? >> besides the work done now at wharf g9, it is all planning phases. we will come back in 2027 with another bond sale request fund ing construction. >> wow. [laughter] okay. my question is, $125 million and still in the planning. okay, that's all the questions i have. i look forward for a breakdown to see how much of this is spent on material and actually getting something built. >> i can provide a more

detailed break down of early projects and cost moving forward in the next two years. >> that would be great. thank you. >> vice president gilman. >> i have no questions, thank you. >> thank you carlos. it is lot of money. and hopefully we are planning for very long-term. if there are no comments or questions, i is a motion and a second? all in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? motion passes unanimously. resolution 24-55 is adopted. next item, please. >> item 13 a is informational presentation on responses to the port's request for interest from maritime dredges and construction firms. for callers who wish to comment, dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment.

>> good afternoon. [indiscernible] chief operating officer. i want to say a few opening comments before i hand this over for the presentation today. we presented earlier this year about the ports dredging contact being expiring and need to move ahead. we put together interdivisional working group including the maritime division engineering maintenance

planning and environment as well as our finance admin contracts experts and i just are want ed to step up and the prior set of items is a good lead in because the dollar amounts are not as large, contracts are really our instrument to do things. as we learned through this particular exercise, it isn't enough to say this is what i want, let's go get it. we really benefit from a lot more strategy in terms of how best to not only achieve the thing in front of us, but also reach additional policy goals the commission has laid out for us in terms of more contractors benefiting from port contracts, more local business enterprise, benefiting from port contracts. and i think we had a interesting helpful dialogue to tee up the best way forward for the port to realize that set of goals still doing the things we need to do as a port of dredging and keeping available maritime business opportunities. this is my chance to sort of

really express appreciation for alexander tut and the contracts team, because a lot of times the other divisions show up and say this is what i need, get it done. we have this long list of contracts we need to get done now but we are doing it and i think a lot of things you saw in the executive director report about what we are able to achieve with a lot of partnerships flow from the nuts and bolts work that will show in the item. i want to frame that a bit. we are interested in your feedback of the range of thing weez are talking about and hopeful to move ahead to keep the dredging and maritime operations going next year. i will hand it off to elizabeth. >> thank you mike for the kind words and introduction. good afternoon president brandon and commissioners. senior staff. my name is elizabeth and i will talk about the responses from the

lbe community and our survey as well as the rfi for dredging and marine construction. in april, the port staff expressed concern about the amount of over water work was not sizable enough to incentivize to procuring certification and developing business capacity needed to perform the marine construction work including dredging and that is where we had lbe wavers. we [indiscernible] studied industry and included adjacent industries to broaden interest and find potential pathways to cover over near water work for the lbe and come back to the port commission with recommendations. here we are today. what you see before you on the slide is a three prong approached the port took to assess availability of lbe, what we are calling other certified firms and then larger firms from marine

construction and dredging. we access availability, identify stepping stones into marine construction and dredging based on lbe and leader feedback and barriers to entry better to offer mitigation strategies. the first box you can see the port is local business enterprise survey. conducted with cmd and the port. we first wanted to assess interest availability and the barriers for lbe and over near water works. the survey performed prior to the writing of the rfi to inform the rfi. created target list of 200lbe and port based on outreach and [indiscernible] port staff called and left voice messages for over 200lbe and had 31 conversations with lbe owners encouraging them to respond for the survey.

many lbe i center to be honest doubted the [indiscernible] saturated with good faith efforts outreach they dont think are going anywhere so it was important to invest staff time to have conversations, leave messages and talk to lbe to encourage them to give us feedback we are sincere in our efforts. cmd announced the survey at the lbe advisory committee and alsosent a link in the news letter. in addition to e-mail blasts, cmd was conductsing their own outreach and got 48lbe responding which we was very informative and meeting answers. second, the blue square in the middle, we wanted to understand in other minority and women owned business, veteran owned businesses, small businesses that are certified

in other agencies--other folks performing marine construction, dredging work and maybe we can learn from them. the port replicated the lbe surveys, changed the language and sent out to over 6,000 calling for purpose of the presentation, other certified firms. and again, to understand the availability barriers and interest in the broader community, and we received 49 responses. and then finally after receiving the survey responses from the lbe and the other certified firms, we analyzed those results, worked with subject matter experts and helped develop request for interest for dredging and marine construction. with the goal of deeply understanding the marine construction and dredging industries from inside, identifying challenges to mitigate the

challenges and evaluate availability in the diversity of firms in the industry. we wanted to assess adding marine construction opened lbe opportunities or more broader contractor pool. we sent this to all the lbe and other certified firms that responded. we felt we really bum barded in the first 2 surveys so sent to folks who responded to lbe and second survey, as well as we did research into who is doing marine construction and dredging along the west coast. we received 11 very thorough responses. our subject matter experts believe is representative of industry. let's get to the results. the first important dist tinction is divide dredging to shallow

versus deep water dredges. this is a important dist tinction we haven't made before. there is different certifications, safety concerns and equipment required for shallow dredging and deep water dredging. for example, you can do shallow dredging with excavator and don't need a big dredge you would under deep water dredging. it is important to note that the lbe and other certified firms are self-reporting capabilities so we are reporting on what they self-reported. the industry leading firms provided product description and promotional materials highlighting marine construction and dredging experiences. the port wasn't able to confirm lbe and other certified firm qualification, but we report on direct responses here. we received that one lbe performed shoreline on barge shallow dredging so over water work. two lbe performed scope related to shallow dredging from the shoreline.

and two other lbe performed professional services related to marine construction and dredging such as hydro graphic surveying which is the surveying that happens during the process. to monitor the dredge. there are two other certified firms who perform shoreline dredging and on barge shallow dredging. we do have some level of capabilities. and finally, there is one federally certified alaska native corporation that performs marine construction and deep water dredging. able to assess what are the capabilities of regarding just dredging. also deep water dredging, there isn't a lot of availability. we received three non lbe to perform the deep water dredging. staff thinks maybe there are 5 total, so we got 60 percent of those probably able to perform this level work. two of the firms have equipment locally and one moved their equipment

up and down the coast based on contract needs. only these firms only the three firms were assessed to be able to move the dredge spoils to proper disposal sites which is important component of dredging and each of these three larger firms noted the difficulty finding staff. so, because the dredge window is short, there isn't a big incentive for folks looking to work in this industry to enter it. they are lacking for more jobs that are year-round or larger work window. all the firms noted they are competing for staff ask the staff are not local. that was important information. and they all noted want key to success in these industries is scheduling and preparation. we learned about the staffing need from the surveys.

so, moving to marine construction. we call marine construction any construction along the shoreline or over water. there is slightly more experience and possibilities in the marine construction world. we have two lbe that performed pile driving from the shoreline and one from a barge. we have 5 other certified firms that have related experience to shoreline or over water construction work. 13 of the other certified firms have the equipment that might be required to perform over water work. and then among the non lbe there is more experience. there is 5 of the respondents have marine construction and equipment along the west coast. some of the observations that we found interesting was that, because the non

lbe noted the industry is so small and the scopes are so small that and the certifications, every jurisdiction had its own certification. sometime the small firms might not see incentive to become certified, because if they had relationships and getting work, that is great. they may notpt want to go through the process to get certify in every jurisdiction because most get wavers. they scr have a business inclusionary requirement. in the second one was, over water construction work has a lot of on land capabilities and needs. when you're demolishing over the water you bring to the shore side and the creates on shore on land work. there is sorting and handling of construction waste, has mat

testing and [indiscernible] fabrication of components installed over the water, so those might be opportunities for us to think about bringing folks closer into the marine construction world. interesting to noted, some lbe not interested in over water work. they have business model focus on what they do well and improving business practice and capability to grow in their comfort zone and there are a lot of over land jobs to grow in so it for us to make the case and build the stepping stone to bring people into over water work. this slide identifies biggest challenges that were identified by lbe or larger firms in bringing emerging firms into over water work and into the marine construction world. one we found particularly compelling is many of the smaller firms,

including lbe had individuals owned by workers who had left some of the dredging companies marine construction companies and started their own company so they had experience but the firm didn't. that if you look to the next block over the opportunity to remove barrier. especially with subcontracting opportunities, looking what can we-where would it be appropriate to look for different kinds of qualifications like staff qualifications and not just lean on firm qualifications. the second addresses desire for mentorship. many identified mentoring opportunities and some said mentorship can be great but without the equipment and insurance and training and certification you need to get that, it could be ineffective or difficult barrier. the suggestion is to look for

stepping stone opportunities into work. be specific about the scope and the equipment requirements and break those down so it isn't just one big contract with a big scope and big equipment but breaking down to various components. and then dividing the scopes to create opportunities for entry level work and exposure. the next one is mentorship is a long-term process because of the components of over water work and confusion among all the qualifications. so, what the suggestion is from the industry is publish the minimum qualifications so we can try to find those. and that's similar to the next two. one is desire among lbe to find marine construction training and

marine environment training and there are some of the larger firms suggestions was we don't think the lbe know about all the free or available trainings. we want to bridge the nexus and publish the government industry run programs. and then finally, lbe identified they assistance evaluating the risk and opportunities making investment to perform over water work. and, on our side what we can do to help people make those business choices is increase transparency of the port needs. publish our dredging schedule. publish look ahead. the consistency of it the needs along with requirements so people get the full picture out what is available. there are also suggestions about strengthening solicitations. and pairing the first one is particularly interesting, which

is pairing together opportunities and similar scopes together in order to incentivize firms to keep their equipment local so they are available to do the work when it is needed. some suggestions about going into greater detail and preproposal and pre bid conference and information and schedule and look aheads for what the port needs. and then finally creating a feedback loop for industry within the pre-proposal stage. that is just about changing the way we do our solicitations. out of the support has three recommendation we welcome your feedbackismt the first is, public the expected requirements and pathways to get to the requirements. the second is to advertise. come back for advertisement. what is called a as needed

general contract and general construction contract. for shallow and deep water dredging and some marine construction to widen that window. and then separately, as needed marine construction contract series and the third is the stepping stone. that is the stepping stone contract into marine construction. i'll go into each of these. happy to talk about each of them give a overview, but in terms of publishing the requirements, pathways and scheduling, really helping folks understand outside the solicitation and a bid or a rfp what kind of work does the port do marine construction and dredging, what is likely qualifications and what are pathways to get there if you dont mead the qualifications today. two, advertise as needed general

contract with shallow and deep water dredging and some marine construction. the general as needed construction contracts require firms and subcontractors to come in with their prices at the proposal and then, which doesn't allow for a lot of flexibility. we think it works for dredging and some marine construction, it doesn't solve all our needs which we can talk about recommendation number 3. this gives a opportunity to work with cmd to assess lbe opportunities across all the scopes so we usually cmd will-the way they evaluate is based on a few particular scopes. we ask them to assess opportunities at award and to be creative in their requirements, such as listing a lbe for at least one scope, and we will be working with them to find which is the

most advantageous to do. lbe subrequirement at the contract level or at the task order level, because they have the option to do it in either location. what is good about the as needed contract is dredging is quite expensive. even shallow dredging is generally over a million dollars and this is the only as needed contract structure that allows to go over a million dollars. the third and final recommendation is as needed marine construction contract series. as needed construction contract you qualify the firm and some subcontractors at the award level but then each task you award more then one. each task order is competitively proposed and there is lbe subcontracting requirement at the task order and subcontractors are also awarded at the task level.

if we look at growth model to bring people into marine construction, it is a good model because as the task orders come up over the life of the contract, you can bring subcontractors in. it is a good stepping stone contract because that. you can do-there is a hard stop at a million dollars so we believe we can do of the shallow dredging and not able to do deep water dredging with this contract, but we can do over water electrical work, plumbing work, some of the shore slide work as well. and i should recommend that or i should include that part of the recommendation for number 3 is that we do it after we do the general as needed so we learn from that experience. we don't do simultaneously and allow ourselves room to learn from the general as needed contract and then take those experiences and then build as needed marine construction

series. this is our expected next steps on the board. information and i'm really excited and interested in your questions. >> thank you. great report. thank you so much. is there public comment on this item? seeing none, do we have anyone on the phone? >> at this time, there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you. public comment is closed. commissioner adams. >> great report. it seems like this maritime dredging and construction seem like this is a field that isn't a lot of diversity in it and it seem it is limited in the special.

maybe andre could talk more about that x hading from maritime and his experience working for a shipping company and maybe andre can speak to that. can you speak to that? it seems it limited. just a narrow thing. it is like being a scuba diver welder it isn't a vast pool of people. >> good afternoon. maritime director. yes, you are absolutely right commissioner. what we've been able to identify is that there is a limited group of firms here on the bay in the bay area and up and down the west coast and within those firms there is limited diversity. i will also add that, here on the bay there are 5 ports within in the bay region and so with limited amount of firms, all requiring dredging

work and us all getting in the queue that even brings more challenges about. as far as diversity not only from availability of firms, but to your question within those groups there is limited diversity, so don't know if i answered that clearly. we've looked up and down the west coast at other firms and again, there are just challenges based on the nature of the work where folks are in the queue, which port is ahead of the others as far as permitting and these firms are going to follow where the work is happening and so that's a challenge we face as well. >> i guess it is clear to say, not only it is a small group but she laid it out, it is seasonal work. it is part time and people are looking for full time jobs with

benefits and pensions and 401k and this is like a seasonal you do the job and then you are done. >> that's correct. elizabeth spoke to the dredge window so the window is june 13 through november 31. it is very condensed window. there are exceptions if wavers are sought, but the limited window of work for this nature of work does contribute to those who are seeking year-round employment versus the seasonal work. >> thank you. you answered my question. thank you. >> thank you. >> so in that case, what do you do when there is no lbe? it is so narrowly margin and you are right, people leave to open their own business. a lotf us do, and want to be their own boss so that is another

situation. that would be a question. you can advertise and get zero results, what do you do in that instance? are we mandated to have a lbe contractor at that point? >> well- >> it could happen. >> of course. if we have a failed proposal or failed solicitation and nobody comes in or nobody meets the lbe requirement--what we are trying to do is understand it to avoid the situation. that's the thinking behind the pairing the construction, because a lot of stuff can happen shore side if you look at the equipment that lbe may perform with an excavator so what other work we need along the shoreline outside odredging window that requires a excavator so it the equipment question when we ask the equipment you have to

try it pair people and scopes of work based on the equipment so that we are not just-- -that is the thinking. >> that is my other question, do you seek out vendors? like i know friends with rental companies that rent equipment and majority minority and black owned companies,b there is asian owned companies. do you include that as part of the way of getting them in to qualify for lbe? >> cmd has a way of calculating lbe subcontracting for equipmenterantal so 60 percent of the total participation goes towards the lbe requirement. a hundred dollars and 60 dollars would count towards the lbe requirement when you rent equipment. equipment rental would count in the situation based on my understanding of

cmd regulations. >> is that clear in the advertisement? >> it would be. what cmd has a section how to meet the lbe requirement and they say, these are the categories and believe they call it the participation percentage based on your work, so if you are performing the labor and providing the equipment then it is hundred percent of the work and a rental or commodity purchase it is a different percentage. >> okay, because i could see down the road it is getting to be so narrow. a lot of industries, right? we are getting hard to find skilled labor so there is other ways. people like to open retail stores or sell construction material or other things more stable and that could qualify to be the lbe that would be great, so i guess it done. you are answering my questions, so thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner engblom.

>> thanks for the report. i guess my line of thinking is similar to what is discussed. it seems to me like what you are describing reminds me of a process evolving in the carbon footprint world when you talk about scope, 1, 2 and 3 and life cycle impacts. we know what our impacts want to be in order to help the local economy and local small businesses and so i just think it is always--i like the analogy of the stepping stone and wonder if somehow the conversation with cmd is maybe more helpful to the port goals if we know what our--this type of work is very specific to the port, so maybe other divisions in the city don't have this problem.

if we can say, our outcomes are based on these scope 1, 2 and 3 of dredging type work, or positive impact instead of trying to get more and more narrow because that feels like a very touch situation. that's it the only thought i have is that analogy company to mind. >> thank you for the work. sure you never imagined you would know this much about dredging. >> i did not. >> i really want to encourage-i don't know if we need to talk to cmd. it could have shifted. only aware of this until the pandemic [indiscernible] hud and hcd at the state level [indiscernible] allow the principals to carry their experience over, so if i join a new organization and just completed 5 new construction projects and present [indiscernible] me at the principal carry the

firm to qualify the firm i'm now at and so it is a leadership team level however defined so i think we should look at that versus firm level and if that is a decision we can make outside cmd i strongly encourage that. particularly with validate research and what you heard and i would check with the mayor office of housing if they are doing that at the local level. [indiscernible] i really support that. start their own firm. i really appreciate the work you are doing for this. the only other question and maybe too much brain damage so if it is you can toss as crazy commissioner idea. this is question for andray. dre. is it beneficial to coordinate the work and contractor with the 5 other ports. for us to do a massive rfp together and have us all work together on it.

i'm doing this with the assumption they are as committed around lbe participation. i wonder if we can leverage that somehow? for this work? >> we are both going to answer the question because it is something we are excited about and talking about. there is something called cooperative contracting, where multiple public agencies can either model a couple different ways, one where we can go what you said and collectively issue a rfp and every contract that results from it would be-we all have our own local rules, right? so, they could apply. every contract would own local rules apply but we solicit together. the other is when somebody they would [indiscernible] cooperative agreement, they can go somewhere else and say san francisco port has a fantastic contract, you should just award me the

contract because they have the competitive solicitation and did the process and you can use this to award a contract so it allows us to award contracts from other public agencies that went through the competitive process. we are exploring all of those options. i think we are leading the way and so it is a possibility. i don't know if a probability. we are trying to explore that now. it isn't a wild yaid. it is a great idea and we are curious about it as well. >> maybe we can bring up a [indiscernible] and see if that a topic of conversation we could have. >> yeah. yes. that would be fantastic. >> thank you. this was a great report and i want to commend you on the research and outreach you did on this effort, because who would have known?

and just looking for opportunities to remove the barriers and being innovative and trying to find new approaches to solving this-i dont want to call it monopoly. this industry issue. but i think it is great. i think you did a lot of great work and i think i'm very supportive of the next steps and how you want to move forward and look forward to you coming back with more opportunities. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. next item, please. >> item 14 a, informational presentation on the port's economic recovery efforts. for callers who wish to comment on this item, please dial star 3 to raise your hand to comment. >> good afternoon president

brandon, vice president gilman, commissioners, executive director forbes, colleagues mptd megan wallace here this afternoon to provide a update on the ports economic recovery activities. as many of you are likely aware, the port has been a city leader on economic recovery. by really taking a lead on creating a clean safe vibrant waterfront over the last several years since the pandemic has wound down, the port really created vibrant waterfront where both city workers and visitors wanted to return. and over the most last two years specifically, the port has been moving forward with a economic recovery plan that has detailed expenditures, metrics as well as focused resourcing particularly with staff, such

as myself. and now we as you can see in the timeline, the first two phases were related to developing and refining, allocating resources and now in the heart of execution and iteration. with ongoing monitoring and reporting of the progress. both to have accountability and review and improve as we go. and actually part of the story is that the port has actually recovered in the revenues. we have far exceeded pre-pandemic revenue at this point, however, as expenses continue to grow, as we look at the capital plan and see ongoing needs for maintenance renewal of facilities it is clear to anybody familiar with the port's portfolio, we need to continue on the path for a financial stability. before i go too far i want to take a moment and look at where this

work fits in the port's strategic plan. we do have two key goals that i work by. economic recovery is really where i came at the port to help us get out of the impacts of the pandemic, but of course we are looking at our growth. on the recovery side, we focus on targetedp activation of park and open space and in fisherman wharf. really, these two objectives support growth strategy expanding maritime and real estate portfolio. looking at targeted activation in the parks and open space, the porlt waterfront provides breath taking views and outdoor experiences. where does anybody else want to be accept the waterfront in san francisco, but it lacks clear identity. it could be challenging to nav dpait. we talked beyears about a need

for improved signage and way finding capability. we also had many of discussion around the need for the southern waterfront in particular to be uplifted and cared for in a manner that matches other areas along the waterfront. for targeted activation in fisherman wharf, as you see in the chart on the bottom right, this shows revenues in various areas along the waterfront. what you see is comparison of revenue in orange is fiscal year 2019-20 so marking pre-pandemic to 2021 in the heart of the pandemic where you see the biggest drop and then fiscal year 2023-24 where many cases you see upward trajectory where we recovered in that area of the waterfront. fisherman wharf we continue to see stagnation in the revenues in that area. really driven by the ongoing

closure of several of the dinosaur restaurants. we also know that foot traffic is still in the recovery stage. it is only at 76 percent of our pre-pandemic levels. really with 65 percent of all visitors to san francisco, visiting fisherman wharf we know recovery in the wharf translates to recovery in the city. this really is a important area for the port to focus. back in january, 2024, i can't believe it has been that long, we have been hard at work, but you might call a expenditure plan that included a good variety of funding sources as well as allocation of the resources. you can see the key areas along the waterfront where the funds were distributed.

just really quickly, i want to remind everybody what the sources are. the southern waterfront beautification funding is from the harbor fund and that's a set aside of revenues for mariposa street and south at the port. economic recovery funding is also harbor funds. this was wisely set aside by port leadership prior to my arrival know we need dedicated resources for recovery activities. we started to use a new project source, it wasn't in the original expenditure plan, but added now. the fisherman wharf resilience and public planning project. we use the funds to amend our grant to fisherman wharf community benefit district. tenant attraction and retention funding is largely stimulus funds dedicated to improving our facilities helping our new tenants address facility

needs the port is putting the funds in. this is also where the bulk of the fisherman wharf cdb grant is allocated and finally port infrastructure grants which represents the critical federal and state funding that we received as you can see it is in the southern waterfront primarily to really do critical work in the facilities and in the southern waterfront. and as you can see, looking at it distribution of funds that really a lot of economic recovery and tenant attraction and retention funding that sits largely up in fisherman wharf. whereas the southern waterfront is where we see the use of federal and state grants. southern waterfront beautification funding and then a portion of our tenant attraction and retention funding. so, today i really want to

highlight some of the great work happening in these key areas of targeted activation of our parks and open spaces, as well as in fisherman wharf. i will walk through these. i realize i should have done something nice like had each pop up in different slides but i will be going from left to right. first i want to talk a bit about the waterfront walk. i had shared this as an emerging idea, a work plan staff was developing and really it is starting to come to life and exciting way. really the cornerstone of it is wayfunding so recognize we do need to do more to help visitors navigate the waterfront. really thinking about our signage systems that provides not only direction, but creates a common sense of place and so these images

both show the one on the left is around wayfinding giving a map and telling visitors where they are, but also exploring interpretive signage and the example on the right is located on the [indiscernible] building off of these past examples, the port is preparing to go out for request for proposal early 2025 for fabrication of our signage system and then we will be looking to begin our instillation in the spring of 2025. this is really exciting because we are starting to walk and not just talk. all the pop ups on had plaza. the parks alliance has done markets in

crane cove park. this isn't focused on fisherman wharf i think of the activations in the wharf being part of the overall concept of the waterfront consent work. we have been creating a vibrant waterfront but we need to continue that work. in particular, the areas missing is in the southern waterfront and staff is starting to explore the concept of doing a pilot that is more community driven. trying to engage partners in the southern waterfront to put on different types of events that will not only activate our parks but engage the communities to come out and appreciate those areas of the waterfront. and then art. as sounds turn to noise, this beautiful sculpture on the left is something that really has been widely celebrated not just among port staff and everybody who walk s by but it has been in

the news. we want to build on that and look for opportunities for art along the water fronts. we are showing examples such as with murals and of course we have existing examples that down to the southern waterfront. we will be building on that and we have staff dedicated to working with the san francisco arts commission, but also talking with other potential partners to really build out this program. then on parks and open spaces, particularly in the southern waterfront. y really the focus in this area is to improve community experience as the port pursues the maritime eco industrial strategy. this is where recovery and growth come together because there's a natural tension that also makes the area really dynamic and exciting to be in

where you have these major maritime activities paired with open spaces and opportunities for the public to come out and enjoy natural settings. so, on the industrial side, really trying to improve that experience, but also create opportunities for growth on maritime. the port is focusing on removing aging facilities such as the structures around the pier 90 grain silos, pier 96 cranes and also making really drastic improvements such as on amdore street. thijing thinking about the blue greenway. we are excited among staff to start working with the san francisco department of public works who are currently under design with the series of improvements throughout the blue greenway. iocusee indication of the various locations from warm water cove

to herons head park where they are looking to clean up landscaping, replace things like damaged picnic tables, improve restrooms in herons head park. all these things are aimed to improve the public experience and try to attract visitors to these public spaces. but also just thinking neighborhood wide. i think this is probably one of the most basic and important moves we are making is to look at procuring a new vehicle and hiring two dedicated staff to maintain this area of the waterfront. happy to say that we've received a truck. it is a electric vehicle so on a strong trend there. it is my understanding we hired one laborer so we have one more to go, so the work here is really on the verge of beginning and i think will

elevate the standard of care in the southern waterfront in a way we can all be proud of. we are continuing to imagine what to do in this area. we do have southern waterfront beautification funds that are available but unallocated and staff is continuing to explore ways we can build on all the ideas, both with the waterfront walk, potentially with maritime facilities and also additional improvements we can do with the blue greenway. finally, with fisherman wharf, the focus in this area is leverage unique features and history to attract visitors local and from around the broader region, state and internationally. and also set the stage for larger longer term transformations in the area.

staff went through a exercise to build out a work plan for three major areas in fisherman manufacture. wharf. the first is the gateway represented by the pier 43 arch. the tip of the triangle parking lot. now we all know it differently as the arch, the sky star wheel and this beautiful fisherman wharf promenade. the area is completely transformed and no longer taking over by unpermitted vendors and canopies. now it has these beautiful pergolas that our maintenance crews helped construct and install. planters with lovely flowers and fun seating. the look and feel of fisherman wharf is completely transformed and really fits the vision of the gateway to create a welcoming place for people to come into the wharf as opposed to find themselves facing a wall of canopies and

turn around and go the other direction. now we hope we are drawing people in. as they make their into the wharf they welcome with events such as pier party in the wharf, which is a summer event, but it created a fun summer time vibe and had a lot of great local regional music and drew in crowds and that on top of the other work that the fisherman wharf cdb has been doing with artwork and flower baskets and having ambassadors to greek people it is safe to stay the area is maintained in a way to attract new visitors. jefferson veet and outer lagoon. i am teeing this up in advance of two items coming your way in december and january.

very excited to say the work with our brokers is actually turning out positive outcomes with two potential leases, both to 300 and 340 jefferson street. having those vacancies filled and creating the activity in that space and changing the dynamic, the energy in that area of jefferson street is really going to be transformative on its own, but you pair that with the new game way and float that would be wharf j9 where the fishers can dock and have people come out and purchase fish off the boat, i think it will be a whole another level of activity and help overall with the feel and the work and hope fully drive additional foot traffic. so, i think before i close i

just want to highlight key elements of work that are ahead. i'm trying to highlight exciting work that happened, but really in the coming days this commission will be hearing more items around the delivery of the work i described. we will be working on a procurement process for activation and stewardship of the waterfront. it will be framed largely as the waterfront walk, but some areas will be focus on the southern waterfront so community driven activation and thinking about other areas along the waterfront so we can have other forms of art and activation. in the southern waterfront with the very large impact to our maritime facilities, you will be hearing more about pier 90 green silo jz 96

crane demolition rchlt we had funds in place, staff has been very active in formulating and firming up plans how to utilize the funds, but more item s related to the procurement of services will be coming your way in the coming days. i just want to give you the heads up on that. and i think really we are working with the good variety of funding sources. trying to dibs tribute the funds strategically in different areas that align with the strategic plan on recovery and growth and trying to reiterate, all this while it started with the focus on recovery, as your former finance director having talked about the 5 year horizon where we start to see reduction in that net income for the port, it is really important for us to keep our foot on the gas, implement the strategies, be innovative,

learn from our experiences and ideally really keep supporting our trajectory on building a financial stability we all long for. thank you so much and i look forward to your question. >> thank you. is there any public comment on this item? seeing none. do we have anyone on the phone? >> there are no callers for public comment. >> thank you. commissioner lee. >> great job. it has been a year already. spent a lot of money but it shows. the j9 project is after having a meeting with the fisherman, very important that we get that going this year. i think probably be nice to have maybe the art commission weigh in on a sign for that. i see your sign says crab. i think we can do better then

that. [laughter] that corridor there where people can walk in and see at laest 15 boats lined up will be a big draw. not only the guys leasing the other spaces which is great, but i have another suggestion i know that taking time for al ioto-the ground floor space where they had the crabs and the boilers are still there. could we do that at embarcadero where we offered three month pop up lease for maybe entrepreneurs to come in and maybe try to set up shop and try to make something out that just temporarily? even if we lease it, it will take time to negotiate it and do renovations i'm sure, but i thought that would help generate stuff other then

during the festivals. it is great, but now it is quite and it is slow. seasonal. we all know it is seasonal. i thought maybe that might by a interesting thing to do. southern waterfront is great. we have a lot of great parks, but there is no place to eat nearby, so i am pushing the food truck like a food truck parking lot or something, maybe with a restroom that you could lock up without getting vandalism. with the stage where people can enjoy some outdoor music. that is why the ramp does well. the ramp has their salsa on the weekends and they are busy so we can move that down since all the new park is going there. but again there is no place to eat unless there a way a new businesses can get closer. so, i think that's the future

or the goal of fl me i like to see in 2025. i think good job. we are on the move. i like to get the bar up in the northern waterfront, but i think that j9 project is going to help a lot. that's it. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioner engblom. >> thanks for the report. i have couple questions. i noticed in the--you said [indiscernible] which is the [difficulty hearing speaker] i wonder if you could talk about that a bit and also, fisherman wharf, there is a lot of things in play. i wonder how does that compare with overall-i think that as a traditional

anchor of san francisco's tourism economy at large and wonder how that tracks against the city at large? given the ferry plaza and fisherman wharf feel like the most traditional tourism locations, so wndser how those are tracking against city wide if you have comment on that. >> in terms of tracking city wide, we are looking at the convention trends. i apologize i don't have the analysis around it. i receive the data but didn't get a deep dive comparison to see if decline contributed to ongoing dip in visitor trends. i think it is a great question. i'll aim to have that analysis for the next update. for the ferry plaza, my recollection of looking at the impacts, because i noticed

that also, that there were other tenants who just i think were not able to be maintained through the pandemic. wondering if there-looking for real estate. any real estate friends have a quick answer that might contribute? thank you, tim. >> good afternoon commissioners. kim beale, assistant deputy director for real estate. if we are looking going back to the beginning of pandemic, one tenant we had in place we might have forgotten about because the building was vacant is ferry plaza east. that was one of tenants we interned into a mutual termination agreement and that agreement ended. and had specific waterfront partners who was the tenant in the ag building

who had space in a couple sheds who also went out. those are a few of the tenants that come to mind and thinking about why we might have that revenue dip. it would need to do more research to come up with a clear concrete answer. >> thank you. >> thank you. vice president gilman. >> okay. i can go. thank you for the report. i had a observation and one suggestion. i really want to thank you you and amy i see back there. the gateway is a gamechanger. someone who [indiscernible] i want to thank-keeps blowing my mind how [indiscernible] we don't go out to bid to build

pergolas and things it is our maintenance staff, our carpenters our cementers who do the work and so impressed how much our trades maintain the water fronts, instillation to making a pergola. it is game changer for the gateway and i really want to thank your team and amy and everyone at the port. it is like overnight game changer, particularly on illegal vending. i want to share that observation. and then just on the wayfair signage because before you were [indiscernible] i want to strongly strongly strongly suggest and not be a slide presentation for anyone who want to do it but i was in my home town of manhattan which is slice of new york city and from the south street sea port their equivalent

of embarcadero to hudson yard which is a newly developed property, it is the best wayfair signage i have seen in my life globally. it is digitized, it has one side and [indiscernible] pay to charge your cell phone feature. the other side is interactive map, with [indiscernible] talk to sf mta and the people i talk to were telling me they can change the sides, like things move around on the waterfront or new attractions come in. if we make the investment and love to look to technology instead of just a normal placard we have always done and maybe we can look to friends we know or colleagues we know in manhattan or in new york to see how they have done it. it was great wayfair signage all over the city, betut but the way it was at hudson yard and south sea port

it was spectacular so i love to see in 2025. rather have us do it spectacular and well and right and invest from a technology perspective to make it really work. i hope you can look there and boston was impressive as well. new york really was very very impressive. i could look and see walk 5 blocks to catch the metro when the train was coming. just wanted to give you that sort of maybe something to think about or look at before you put the [indiscernible] >> wonderful, thank you. >> thank you. >> megan, great report. i'm looking at the report where you say a safe equitable vibrant waterfront is key to the port of san francisco. san francisco city and port partners economic recovery. that is what we are doing. we are coming out of economic recovery. coming out of covid.

couple years away from that. also you pointed out about southern waterfront requires additional care mpt i don't know about you, but i think the work been done this year where we were and where we are now is extraordinary. this year we all most lost our director. this is is a very tough year and there has been resilience at this port not only from the leadership when mike martin took over but the president of the commission, kimberley brandon and the staff is extraordinary and now we are talking about things happening and we are still pushing forward. the port-we are in transition. we are in transnition now and that is a good thing. before we had a headwind, now we are pushed by a tailwind and it is extraordinary to see this in the way

you laid all this out and i would have never thought i would see a artwork of black woman statue on the san francisco waterfront and the things that happened. my brother steve said these two new restaurants opening. we made extraordinary gains. this is nothing just to like put to the side. we have come a long way. we have taken leaps and bounds. got hardships and hard times. i see the resilience and i'm excited and i have a feeling and i know this to be a fact the people will come back to the waterfront, they will. it is a chaichck. change. everything is in change and everything is fluid in our lives and it will be good. thank you for this. this is so important and this is just the part of the long-term view

of vision of the port that reenergyize the efforts at the port, the extraordinary reports you heard today. it is a exciting time to be part of the port of san francisco and where it is happening. the energy, it is positive. it is a vision. if you dont feel it is contagious something is wrong with you because it is very contagious and moving, but also very very small steps moving here, moving there like a chess board making all the right moves and getting back and also this is what the citizens in san francisco want. they want to come back because this is something that it doesn't care income or nationality. the port is for everybody and they can come down here and enjoy this and i think we will come out of bigger and better so this is awesome what

you put together megan. this is good. this is the life blood and the tentacles of the port, the recoferby and we are in recovery so thank you. >> thank you. i don't think i could have said it any better. i think my fellow commissioners covered all the bases. this is wonderful and great to see investment we are putting throughout the waterfront to bring people back to the waterfront and i think that you and staff are doing amazing job. by showing in the presentation and evyone olk to come so i thank for your efforts. >> thank you president brandon. >> next item, please. >> item 15, new business. >> i recorded two items. one, update on the wharf j9 project and off the boat fish sales and also understanding of what the merger between cal maritime and cal

san lu is obispo might mean for the capability for mentorships and pipeline production, and i did have one correction, the embarcadero plaza is our property. michelle is trying to correct me. it is a note. >> we own a portion of the property along embarcadero, so there will be agreement you have to enter into with rec park, with other agencies, or-- [indiscernible] >> [indiscernible] >> any other new business? >> don't forget to schedule me with the fisherman in january or after chinese new year. >> i like to attend that if possible. i think two of us can go on that. >> is there any other new business?

can i have motion to adjourn? >> motion to adjourn. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> the meeting is adjourned at 454 p.m. [meeting adjourned]

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an expert to look around and see the increasing frequency of fires throughout california. they are continuing at an ever-increasing rate every summer, and as we all know, the drought continues and huge shortages of water right now. i don't think you have to be an expert to see the impact. when people create greenhouse gases, we are doing so by different activities like burning fossil fuels and letting off carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and we also do this with food waste. when we waste solid food and leave it in the landfill, it puts methane gas into the atmosphere and that accelerates the rate at which we are warming our planet and makes all the effects of climate change worse. the good news is there are a lot of things that you can be doing, particularly composting and the added benefit is when the compost is actually applied to the soil, it has the ability to reverse climate change by

pulling carbon out of the atmosphere and into the soil and the t radios. and there is huge amount of science that is breaking right now around that. >> in the early 90s, san francisco hired some engineers to analyze the material san francisco was sending to landfill. they did a waste characterization study, and that showed that most of the material san francisco was sending to landfill could be composted. it was things like food scraps, coffee grounds and egg shells and sticks and leaves from gardening. together re-ecology in san francisco started this curbside composting program and we were the first city in the country to collect food scraps separately from other trash and turn them into compost. it turns out it was one of the best things we ever did. it kept 2.5 million tons of material out of the landfill,

produced a beautiful nutrient rich compost that has gone on to hundreds of farms, orchards and vineyards. so in that way you can manage your food scraps and produce far less methane. that is part of the solution. that gives people hope that we're doing something to slow down climate change. >> i have been into organic farming my whole life. when we started planting trees, it was natural to have compost from re-ecology. compost is how i work and the soil biology or the microbes feed the plant and our job as regenerative farmers is to feed the microbes with compost and they will feed the plant. it is very much like in business where you say take care of your employees and your employees will take carolinas of your customers. the same thing. take care of the soil microbes and soil life and that will feed

and take care of the plants. >> they love compost because it is a nutrient rich soil amendment. it is food for the soil. that is photosynthesis. pulling carbon from the atmosphere. pushing it back into the soil where it belongs. and the roots exude carbon into the soil. you are helping turn a farm into a carbon sink. it is an international model. delegations from 135 countries have come to study this program. and it actually helped inspire a new law in california, senate bill 1383. which requires cities in california to reduce the amount of compostable materials they send to landfills by 75% by 2025. and san francisco helped inspire this and this is a nation-leading policy. >> because we have such an immature relationship with nature and the natural cycles and the carbon cycles, government does have to step in and protect the commons, which is soil, ocean, foryes, sir, and

so forth. -- forest, and so fors. we know that our largest corporations are a significant percentage of carbon emission, and that the corporate community has significant role to play in reducing carbon emissions. unfortunately, we have no idea and no requirement that they disclose anything about the carbon footprint, the core operation and sp360 stands for the basic notion that large corporations should be transparent about the carbon footprint. it makes all the sense in the world and very common sense but is controversial. any time you are proposing a policy that is going to make real change and that will change behavior because we know that when corporations have to disclose and be transparent and have that kind of accountability, there is going to be opposition. >> we have to provide technical

assistance to comply with the state legislation sb1383 which requires them to have a food donation program. we keep the edible food local. and we are not composting it because we don't want to compost edible food. we want that food to get eaten within san francisco and feed folks in need. it is very unique in san francisco we have such a broad and expansive education program for the city. but also that we have partners in government and nonprofit that are dedicated to this work. at san francisco unified school district, we have a sustainability office and educators throughout the science department that are building it into the curriculum. making it easy for teachers to teach about this. we work together to build a pipeline for students so that when they are really young in pre-k, they are just learning about the awe and wonder and beauty of nature and they are connecting to animals and things

they would naturally find love and affinity towards. as they get older, concepts that keep them engaged like society and people and economics. >> california is experiencing many years of drought. dry periods. that is really hard on farms and is really challenging. compost helps farms get through these difficult times. how is that? compost is a natural sponge that attracts and retains water. and so when we put compost around the roots of plants, it holds any moisture there from rainfall or irrigation. it helps farms make that corner and that helps them grow for food. you can grow 30% more food in times of drought in you farm naturally with compost. farms and cities in california are very hip now to this fact that creating compost, providing compost to farms helps communities survive and get

through those dry periods. >> here is the thing. soil health, climate health, human health, one conversation. if we grow our food differently, we can capture all that excess carbon in the atmosphere and store it in unlimited quantities in the soil, that will create nutrient dense foods that will take care of most of our civilized diseases. so it's one conversation. people have to understand that they are nature. they can't separate. we started prowling the high plains in the 1870s and by the 1930s, 60 year, we turned it into a dust bowl. that is what ignorance looks like when you don't pay attention to nature. nature bats last. so people have to wake up. wake up. compost. >> it is really easy to get frustrated because we have this belief that you have to be completely sustainable 24/7 in

all aspects of your life. it is not about being perfect. it is about making a change here, a change there in your life. maybe saying, you know what? i don't have to drive to that particular place today. today i am going to take the bus or i'm going to walk. it is about having us is stainable in mind. that is -- it is about having sustainability in mind. that is how we move the dial. you don't have to be perfect all the time. >> san francisco has been and will continue to be one of the greener cities because there are communities who care about protecting a special ecosystem and habitat. thinking about the history of the ohlone and the native and indigenous people who are stewards of this land from that history to now with the ambitious climate action plan we just passed and the goals we have, i think we have a dedicated group of people who see the importance of this place. and who put effort into building an infrastructure that actually makes it possible. >> we have a long history

starting with the gold rush and the anti-war activism and that is also part of the environmental movement in the 60s and 70s. and of course, earth day in 1970 which is huge. and i feel very privileged to work for the city because we are on such a forefront of environmental issues, and we get calls from all over the world really to get information. how do cities create waste programs like they do in san francisco. we are looking into the few which you are and we want innovation. we want solutions.

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