i am the dream and the hope of the slave. i rise, i rise, i rise. 2025.) >> welcome to the city and county of san francisco abatement appeals board meeting this morning at 10:30 am., wednesday, january 15, 2025. this is the the regular meeting of first

item is the roll call. >> president chavez here. >> vice president neumann here. >> commissioner alexander-tut here. >> commissioner meng here. >> commissioner shaddix and commissioner williams is excused we have a quorum and next we have a quorum and next land unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush (rah-my-toosh) ohlone (o-lon-ee) who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. territory. territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples.

>> okay. thank you. >> next for any members of the public maybe listening in public maybe listening in the public public public public public code: 2663 240 9391. to raise your hand for public comment on a specific agenda item press *3 when prompted by the meeting moderator. okay. next item next item >> 2. approval of minutes: discussion and possible action to adopt the minutes for a meeting held on: november 20, 2024. is there a motion or any items changed for the minutes? >> so moved. >> so there's a motion by

commissioner shaddix. do i have a second? >> second. >> okay. is there any public comment on the minutes? >> then all commissioners are in favor. >> any opposed? okay. thank you. the minutes are approved. >> let me next have item >> let me next have item special meetings to hear abatement appeals board (aab) appeals. >> president chavez. >> great um, i mentioned at the last commission meetings have the backlog of cases. um, in order to get through them we have to have a special additional meeting iner to get through the cases especially, as it takes an honor hour do got through one at that time we'll get back to be how an potential date but have an

additional case meeting in 2025. >> thank you, commissioners. any comments on that? >> a my only request start after the budget we don't pile up too much of the month. >> sure no problem. >> okay. thank you. >> no, not comments any public comment on this item? >> next administer the oath all parties giving testimony today right hand do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give will be the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> thank you. >> you may be seated. >> on item

>> on item >> on item 2119 22nd street requested by appellant: appellant appeals the october 4, 2022 order of abatement and assessment of costs. appellant appeals the court order of abatement and assessment of the costs and for the everyone notice the department will present its case first and then they have 7 minutes and the appellant will present 7 minutes and have public comment for three minutes per each speaker and both parties will have rebuttal. >> and the department please come forward. >> hello. >> good morning and board of commissioners inspector my name is joe and the building

inspector and i'm here for a aab case presentation on today's agenda and following with the ab case no. 6941 the property address 2119 22nd street lot number 4158 lot 2064 and complaint # 201866432. the subject property off a two-story roof building in the construction for a single-family residential occupancy at the area identified as a smoke protection by dbi and the property owner didn't get a permit to adjust the repair of deteriorated foundation on the left side of property line and

the inspector reviewed that construction and performed was significantly different from the permit the summary for authorized new with the, etc. vacation with the soil including the construction of the retaining wall foundation that deedee deteriorated they have storm work three years ago and the - last to code enforcement we found the letter was

temporarily supporting the building and it is outstanding for excavation and the retaining wall foundation. can you remember the owner is pursuing a permit to have a brand new 3 story building one within the subject lot the current - to support the existing building the owner filed too two applications and waiting for approval of the recommendation to uphold the order of abatement including the estimate of the costs and dbi officer and i do have some proposals to share.

>> okay. >> this is the of the foundation. >> the upper actual is the level in the middle of the street level and the further one is the basement and authorized excavation. so - >> this photo shows an authorized reflecting foundation at the rear portion of the building is also in the area where the unauthorization basement this photo shows some supporting the owner performed that more recently. koufgz

(coughing) this photo captured in the rear yard i'm sorry the deteriorated it has been removed and also the condition of the building is shown. >> that's it for now. thank you. >> thank you. >> the public may come forward. >> good afternoon. >> speak into the mitch myself i bought the building about three years ago it was not leased and the violations on the building i'm actually trying to

correct them we've get rid of most of violations we are looking for a new building through the city right now and we can't really correct until we know yurng i don't know what else to say i it's pretty much it. any questions for me i mean in that something that seen all the time and i yeah i don't know what else to say. >> thank you. >> and- >> (multiple voices). >> if any other questions. >> all right. >> is there public comment on this item? >> none online rebuttal time the department has rebuttal? >> we recognized there are 11

owners like two years ago the violation is will be inherent to the current owner they're responsible to take up the violation. >> thank you the appellant have any rebuttal? >> i have no problems with fixing the violations but can't do it until i get my permit for the new building. i mean, i fixed whatever violations i could and the rest when we get the permit from the city that's - that's the progress we're trying to go through right now. okay. >> so - >> thank you. >> can the board deliberation?

>> purchasing a property with the violations makes them go away didn't. >> i understand where things are and i don't want to do additional work before, you know, if you're going to basically clear and do a new building you bought knowing were violations and so - um, i don't as far as i see no reason that will be wouldn't be upheld. >> and ask the department if they have a recommendation? what's the departments recommendation. >> the department recommended to uphold the order of

abatement. >> no. >> comssioner shaddix. >> sorry. >> not sure who my question is going to i'm stuck on this perhaps you can answer they existing l.b. on it he's trying to correct gotten to the point the final can't correct. because he wants to demolish the building or rebuild the building or are we all stuck here is she going to have to fix an nov so i can cord does he have to go back and turn around and demolish so we can move forward i like to pout

there are here and everyone is here find a work to, yes and move forward i appreciate you coming downtown and all the park that is appreciated but i'm stuck on that what is he supposed to do? >> just in general. so there is the previous owners beyond the scope the permits that is generated the violation. he is correct could have gone down the path but will demolish the building and rebuild. we go obviously want to make them dot repairs on the building. >> we're at a stage i can apply for a demolition permit not guarantee that will be approved by the planning department. i would like you and

safe the building there. he did buy and purchased the property knowing the violations were there i'll say just maybe for fairness if you want to put this in advance for two or three weeks and see about the demolition permit if it gets approved and will lo lose the building. >> the officers placed this for abatement and see if you want to comply. >> vice president neumann. >> the violations don't go away was no owner i buy it with the liability um. >> just for a second.

>> if i ask i a question then, yes but can. >> (multiple voices.) >> so you buy an understanding you're roundabout to clear the violations been three years i'd like to understand when the primths went in so if you can let me know with the permits went in and whatever you had a vision. >> i had a lot of violations didn't turn out the way we wanted to i have no problem fbi's the violations i knew that was violations and because of violations the last one i can't do that because if i take and rip out the foundation i don't know what i can put on it the scope of the building will tell me about the foundation that was

going in the new foundation if you understand what i'm saying. >> (multiple voices.) >> i have no problem with fixing the violations i can't do that with the building in place. it is too dangerous and it is not feasible. >> do you have architectural plans to the approval process do you have a design foundation at the point will go to planning how far along are you in the process because the building still presents a risk in the current state. >> that's why we did the construction two years ago with the upgrade if you look at the department and if you look at the dbi will tell you where we are and right now there's, you know, we're just waiting for the the process to move on. >> question for the

department. as is without the building being occupied there, there imminent safety risks? >> okay. >> i think they have a lot of adjustment they have (unintelligible) the face to face and we can request is owner to have entered an assessment if there are any um, monitoring to if they're safe or we are. okay. to wait but, however, i will kind align to see if they're able to demo that building that is unsafe structure if they're able to

demo then the safe conditions will be abated. >> where's the permit in the process? >> yeah. so pending for approval they filed it. >> i don't have to have the date but i'll. >> (multiple voices). >> how long did that typically take to get approval. >> we can answer this question. >> that is polk the city planning for the demo of the building to. >> to answer your question july of 2022. >> okay. >> and on the question of whether or not that is unoccupied at present health and safety risk? >> um, depends on how solid or how the bracing but temporary post structure may not be constitutional the major earthquake we don't know in the

major earthquake come the calendar material maybe initially (unintelligible). >> and this subject lot is within the scope of the protection act within the san francisco. >> the reality not be able not able to be abated before any quicker than getting to a demolition permit. >> and that's my opinion assessment as someone who (unintelligible). >> yeah. last week, i visited the city the building is unoccupied. okay. >> there are a temporary shoring in place that was permitted and it is secured to

answer your question. >> but can't stay there forever. >> that's the condition. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> i'm trying to understand the logic and the new owner booze a building will have to have two permits one for dog and one for repairs that didn't make sense to me, you i understand exactly the remediation uphold this then we're basically saying you attempt to remediate is only as efficient because you - i also don't think this goes away

i don't think anyone is asking for the violation to go away. so um, i'm interested in putting this into abeyance and continue for the safety reasons i think i'm seeing in - so hopefully that is a agreeable to the petitioner and wait the allowable time to visit about? >> sorry give me one second. >> um, sounds like you've done a lot of work you committed to do. i don't know what the question is at that time but you done a lot of work and to

address the notice of violations except for this one and submitted for a permit to a demolition but it takes time [off mic.] >> you know, it is on ongoing. >> absolutely, yes. [off mic.] wish that went faster. >> i can. >> for safety for my safety and my workers and contractors safety. >> i hear i do. this is the status permit is in place right now that is what he said? and been in planning since 2022? >> july of 2022 is when it was first day filed. >> no, i mean we have no, like jurisdiction over planning but with our relationship with planning to check in and ask them to move a demo over, too

years. >> the demolition resident sky unit is a longer process i don't want to comment on planning it it takes time. >> all right. i'll say i'm in line with commissioner alexander-tut it makes sense to take more time before we uphold this is obviously a risk and sounds like you're moving on on the ethics commission and didn't feel fair i'm saying to um, moving forward on addressing that. >> i'll make one comment built owner there was. >> second order of abatement that was supposed to be heard today and i would say the owner

is um, using the best effort to get if demolition permit issued and do we have an answer. >> just to answer the question any ab decision that modifies the order of abatement didn't have an imminent hazard and provides to repair such violations within 60 days with a reasonable time up to 18 months. >> okay. >> commissioner meng my question when the owner which was the last time you were in communications with the planning department? >> last week. >> if you can come up to the mic speak into mic. >> pretty much everyone week

sent out an e-mail maybe changes with the administration i don't know but like to hear from them too all right. >> they haven't given you an indication when it might be approved. >> no, no, no i wish. >> thank you. >> to the deputy city attorney can a talk about has to be done in 60 days. >> sorry start with the - can question instead table this to a later meeting. >> just. >> (multiple voices.) >> and 18 ones. >> what's the - i thought. >> (multiple voices.) >> so the work to repair or rectify the violations the. >> the construction work or

whatever the violation underlying. >> sounds like he's started. >> okay. and so it just requires that if in the event that work has not started to correct the violations that work needs to start within 60 days. um, and because needed within the reasonable time is 18 months. >> so i guess by work can - does working on towards permit count towards work on to the extent. >> i don't know. um. >> okay. >> i think that is not clear. >> no additional guidance from the building code. >> then i'd like to make a motion we put in in abeyance for the work towards resolution and

with the extension up to 18 months. >> wl be what's the language quote it - so the idea to hold - this is if you want to modify i suppose a modification for the order of abatement. >> because i'm thinking either maybe abeyance or table to a later meeting. >> it is allowed would that amenable to return and we can see where this is in three or four months and bring that back if necessary? >> if that's allowed.

>> you could continue to another time so instead of making a decision whether to uphold or modify or reverse the order table it for another time in 2 to three months or whatever you decide to. >> and hear it again and that during that time you don't need to rehear all the presentation and would get a um, either a status update and from either party and then decide by a motion during that time. >> can we move it - table it and give the discretion. >> that's my motion.

>> second. >> so can we um. okay. so the motion is to continue this matter to a later time to be determined by the with recommendations of the department and through the chair. >> correct. >> i'd like to make a friendly addition and that is, we also include ongoing monitoring of the site which you have mentioned earlier i think that important include here. >> for the mode indication for the monthly report. >> yeah. >> thank you. >> there's a motion by commissioner alexander-tut with the friendly amendment by. do i

have a second? >> second. >> okay. i don't see any we have a motion and a second. public comment on this motion. >>. okay. seeing none, roll call vote. >> president chavez, yes. >> vice president neumann, yes. >> commissioner alexander-tut, yes. >> commissioner meng eyes and commissioner shaddix that motion carries unanimously. >> good luck. >> and next item e any general public comment for items not on the agenda seeing none, item f adjournment motion to adjourn. >> so moved. >> do i hear a second? and second. >> all commissioners in favor

and we're adjourned it is 10:11 a.m. and we'll be reconvened as the building inspection commission at 10:30 a.m. thank you. [meeting adjourned].

>> brainchild the executive director 6 housing clinic in the neighborhood for it 90 years and talking about the history like the first web about family history and a lot of the clinicians found with a group of the community members. with the owner of cadillac the housing on the west coast and the tenderloin is a permanent climax of history of the neighborhood and the community art gorilla for whatever reason artists in the neighborhood. and we do public events as well as walk in (unintelligible) for residents we have been known for has nothing to do with historically

artist surveys and that makes us very unique and work producing about the cafe and a in the nei 1966 helping us on market street year-round indefinitely we think that the arts is an incredible way of experiencing history and really helps people think of themselves as history persons and especially for the house play really a part of the - and think that is generates for the - we are aware the art is important for people and important for the community mba and can be a really assessable and engaging way to see history well. >> those are the ways as the

art and history you're not going to see emotionally in the . >> (music).

>> the ferry building one of san francisco most famous that as many of 15 thousand commuters pass through that each gay. >> one of the things that one has to keep in mind regarding san francisco is how young the city we are. and nothing is really happening here before the gold rush. there was a small spanish in the presiding and were couriers and fisherman that will come in to rest and repair their ships but at any given

time three hundred people in san francisco. and then the gold rush happened. by 182948 individuals we are here to start a new life. >> by 1850 roughly 16 thousand ships in the bay and left town in search of gold leaving their ships behind so they scraped and had the ships in the bay and corinne woods. with sand the way that san francisco was and when you look at a map of san francisco have a unique street grid and one of the thing is those streets started off in extremely long piers. but by 1875 they know they needed more

so the ferry building was built and it was a long affair and the first cars turned around at the ferry building and picking up people and goods and then last night the street light cars the trams came to that area also. but by the late 1880s we needed something better than the ferry building. a bond issue was passed for $600,000. to build a new ferry building i would say 800 thousand for a studio apartment in san francisco they thought that was a grand ferry building had a competition to hire an architecture and choose a young aspiring architect and in the long paris and san francisco had grand plans for

this transit station. so he proposed the beautiful new building i wanted it wider, there is none tonight. than that actually is but the price of concrete quitclaim two how and was not completed and killed. but it opened a greater claim and became fully operational before 1898 and first carriages and horses for the primary mode of transportation but market street was built up for serve tram lines and streetcars could go up to the door to embarcadero to hospitals and mission street up to nob hill and the fisherman's area. and then the earthquake

hit in 190 six the ferry building collapsed the only thing had to be corrected once the facade of the tower. and 80 percent of the city would not survive the buildings collapsed the streets budges and the trams were running and buildings had to highland during the fire after the actuate tried to stop the mask fire in the city so think of a dennis herrera devastation of a cable car they were a mess the streets were torn up and really, really wanted to have a popular sense they were on top of that but two weeks after the earthquake kind of rigged a way getting a streetcar to run not on the

cable track ran electrical wires to get the streetcars to run and 2 was pretty controversial tram system wanted electrical cars but the earthquake gave them to chance to show how electrical cars and we're going to get on top this. >> take 10 years for the city to rebuild. side ferry use was increasing for a international exhibition in 1950 and people didn't realize how much of a community center the ferry building was. it was the center for celebration. the upper level of ferry building was a gathering place. also whenever there was a war like the

filipino war or world war two had a parade on market street and the ferry building would have banners and to give you an idea how central to the citywide that is what page brown wanted to to be a gathering place in that ferry building hay day the busiest translation place in the world how people got around transit and the city is dependent on that in 1915 of an important year that was the year of our international exposition 18 million living in san francisco and that was supposedly to celebrate the open of panama differential but back in business after the earthquake and 22 different ferry boats to

alamed and one had the and 80 trips a day a way of life and in 1918 san francisco was hit hard by the flu pandemic and city had mask mandates and anyone caught without a doubt a mask had a risk ever being arrested and san francisco was hit hard by the pandemic like other places and rules about masks wearing and what we're supposed to be more than two people without our masks on i read was that on the ferry those guys wanted to smoke their pipes and taking off their masks and getting from trouble so two would be hauled away. >> the way the ferry building was originally built the lower level with the natural light was used for take it off lunge

storage. the second floor was where passengers offloaded and all those people would spill out and central stairway of the building that is interesting point to talk about because such a large building one major stairway and we're talking about over 40 thousand people one of the cost measures was not building a pedestrian bridge with the ferry building and the embarcadero on market street was actually added in and in 1918 but within 20 years to have san francisco bay the later shipbuilding port in the world and the pacific we need the iron that. as the ferry system was at

the peak two bridges to reach san francisco. and automobiles were a popular item that people wanted to drive themselves around instead of the ferry as a result marin and other roots varnished. the dramatic draw in ferry usage was staggering who was using the ferry that was a novelty rather than a transportation but the ferry line stopped one by one because everyone was getting cars and wanted to drive and cars were a big deal. take the care ferry and to san francisco and spend the day or for a saturday drive but really, really changed having the car ferry. >> when the bay bridge was built had a train that went along the lower level so that

was a major stay and end up where our sales force transit center is now another way of getting into the city little by little the ferry stopped having a purpose. >> what happened in the 40 and 50's because of this downturn we were trying to find a purpose a number of proposals for a world trade center and wanted to build it own the philly in a terrible idea objective never gotten down including one that had too tall towers a trade center in new york but a tower in between that was a part of ferry building and

completely impractical. after the cars the tower administration wanted to keep americans deployed and have the infrastructure for the united states. so they had an intrastate free plan the plan for major freeway systems to go throughout san francisco. and so the developers came up with the bay bridge and worked their way along embarcadero. the plans were to be very, very efficient for that through town he once the san francisco saw had human services agency happening 200 though people figure out city hall offender that the embarcadero free was dropped and we had the great free to no where. which cut us off from the

ferry building and our store line and created in 1989 and gave us the opportunity to tear down the free. and that was the renaissance of ferry building. >> that land was developed for a new ferry building and whom new embarcadero how to handle travel and needed a concept for the building didn't want- that was when a plan was developed for the liquor store. >> the san francisco ferry building has many that ups and downs and had a huge hay day dribbled adopt to almost nothing

and after the earthquake had a shove of adrenaline to revise the waterfront and it moved around the bay and plans for mo so think investment in the future and feel that by making a reliable ferry system once the ferry building will be there to surface. >> .

>> (music). >> my name is package scott i'm a general manager and vice president of the yerba buena ice skating and bowling center. >> we opened in 98, we are celebrating our 25 anniversary. the last ice relation at 48

avenue with the redevelopment agency started to reconstruct a yerba buena the city had suggested how about around ice skating we have a podium we run from the tiny to the we have a whiff community of beginners and entering meats and so many people that only to san francisco and california for the east coast who grew up circulating and when they finding a pair they fall in love with that. >> my favorite ring it is a beautiful skyline and yeah. it is really nice (background noise.) our bowling center is adorable perfect for conference party and birthday party or have a good time and children's activity and

wonderful playground and a great area to relax and enjoy the view it is 35 part of the city and a lot of great places to go around and have lunch. skating is fun for the whole family we have an amazing program a huge adult population sea sorry about that in his skating and is or have a ton of programs it is walkable in their yerba buena community. we have everything you need. if i forgot our socks we have those and we charge a.d. mythics, inc., if you have no skates the general public typically e traditionally have public skating and open on the weekends and multiple sessions for everyone to

>> here is grt wall hardware, 3500 square feet of retail space. we carry about 22 thousand items in here and countingfelt it never stops because i have a thing. when a customer says, do you have this and i don't have it, it bothers me. i won't have it. so, it is just one of those things owning a hardware store, people expect you to have everything and you try to if full thill fulfill that need. native san franciscan. born in chinatown, same as bruce lee, chinatown hospital. my family moved to the sunset in the late 70's, so my mom and dad thought, we are already doing construction, why don't we open a hardware store? it is nice dove tail to each other, so that is how that got started.

we started this store in 1983, and we have been going every since, so now it is 40 years. i like serving my neighborhood. i fealt a hardware store is different from other businesses. most businesses you want to buy this or that and eat this or that. a hardware store is different. people come in and usually have a problem and need a solution and looking for you to navigate them through that problem and offer them products that help them get to where they need to go. the people are great. i love this neighborhood. there is different etnisties and cultures here. we all intermingle and mix together and get along fine and i like that about this neighborhood t. is nice place to be. it is near the beach and beautiful and near the zoom and park and stern grove. great schools and parks. what's twl not to like? i am always looks around the corner the next thing to and crank it up more and make it safer and more

enjoyable. bringing in new businesses. support them. great wall hardware, open 7 days a week, monday-friday 8 to 6, saturday is 10 to 6 and sunday is 10 to 3. it across the city. [♪♪] the tenderloin is home to families, immigrants, seniors, merchants, workers, and the housed and unhoused who all deserve a thriving neighborhood to call home. the tenderloin emergency initiative was launched to improve safety, reduce crime, connect people to services, and increase investments in the neighborhood. >> the department of homelessness and supportive housing is responsible for providing resources to people living on the streets. we can do assessments on the streets to see what people are

eligible for as far as permanent housing. we also link people with shelter that's available. it could be congregate shelter, the navigation center, the homeless outreach team links those people with those resources and the tenderloin needs that more than anywhere else in the city. >> they're staffing a variety of our street teams, our street crisis response team, our street overdose response team, and our response team. we have received feedback from community members, from residents, community organizations that we need an extra level and an extra level of impact and more impactful care to serve this community's needs and that's what the fire department and the community's paramedics are bringing today to this issue. >> the staff at san francisco community health center has really taken up the initiative of providing a community-based outreach for the neighborhood. so we're out there at this point monday through saturday letting residents know this is a service they can access

really just describing the service, you know, the shower, the laundry, the food, all the different resources and referrals that can be made and really just providing the neighborhood with a face, this is something that we've seen work and sometng you can trust. >> together, city and community-based teams work daily to connect people to services,