make up the totality of budget is how is that what you're telling us? >> no, you talk about the our ideas or your revenue source because you say you have a revenue source but you've included that in your entire budget. so do they look at that before they before they fund you or do they that's they disregard that you add that and then you say okay now we can get to our 41 yes. >> so we use that as any additional funding we get. we are work ordered agreement to do the vicious and dangerous dog hearings in which we support the staff with that so that work order funds position we also have where we do hearings and then also a work order for us to investigate the sheriff office cases and that's primarily we have our there's no real sheriff's office inspector general that's actually exists so we do all of ad states of america the that work for them right now and that's actually a majority of the ideas. everything else is like 150 republic for which it stands as $200,000. >> so some other independent one nation under god with group funds that revenue source but you don't included when you liberty and justice for all make your requests to the mayor present last let's take roll because you're going to count please mr. clay president mr. on that outside of that it's all through city services so

it's all still general fund benedicto president. mr. janez president money. >> it's just from other departments in the city. so what i'm saying so then commissioner ye hear vice you're saying you just get a lump sum allocated from the city and and you just break it president carter ober stone out and say this is what you're president present last you have getting. that allocation includes a quorum also with us tonight we have chief scott from the whatever let's say it's 500,000. san francisco police department okay i get you get you get and executive director paul henderson from the department of police accountability. $10,500,000 500,000 of it is thank you. from the outside services can you please call the nec the revenue but it's all you that's first item one announcement your budget from the mayor no the other the that's what yeah no the additional one is what before we go we are pulling we we are not outside of what the mayor's office gives us so line item seven as well as line if you collapse you don't have to do any of that revenue item 12 a from tonight's agenda generating services in your budget a short and you've and one correction on line item three it states for the meeting relied on that when you've come to the table to begin the year of january 15th, 2024 it is actually for the meeting of for your staffing you are absolutely correct. >> that is why we're working on january 15th 2025. the packet online is correct the mayor's office to make sure all of those positions are balanced in our budget. with a correct date line item we want to make sure that we do not have any holes in our one general public comment at budget whether it's through on this time the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two call pay comp time or anything else that we have to support minutes on items that do not with our staff. appear on tonight's agenda but

are within the subject matter they are ongoing issues and the mayor's office is well aware of jurisdiction of the police them so we are trying to make commission under police commission rules of order sure that we have enough during public comment neither police or epa personnel nor commissioners are required to funding to cover everything because that 15% reduction for you all right. respond to questions by the public but may provide a brief response. that represents a huge hit to a alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways email the budget where you only have 41 employees and a fund that that secretary of the police commission at speed commission it as if your or written could be 2 or 3 people. i don't know how i don't know what the salaries are but that statements may be sent via us postal service to the public could be huge. >> yeah, it's a it's a it's safety building located at 1245 third street san francisco about $1 million is what they want to cut from our budget so yes so there's a potentially california 94158 if you would like to make public comment for you all that there would be please approach the podium. layoffs we are working with the mayor's office to try to prevent that from happening. >> yes. well thank you, commissioner benedicto for the portion of >> are you doing good? you're good. the work that you're doing for i know it's just you don't like me. i know the beats is going to the sheriff's department. >> is that a separate like what change. >> no, no. yeah, i know but it's fine. is the interaction of that for your budget requests? >> oh, so that's going to be based on the actual work that's okay. first thing i have to say is performed. so doing intake, doing you have got tv here. interviews the full investigative process all the you are out of sync with what i way to policy. so it's it's mostly and then

said at the board of also because the oig doesn't supervisors on january the 28th have any support staff such as payroll budget any of the when i declare officially append the revolution. additional functions. so we actually provide all of that to that that department the revolution you are out of sync so your activate otherwise and so we get compensation back from them for supporting them you demonstrate again your incompetence either way you do in that way. so like i do two budgets every year we run two payrolls, we it you okay so i'm going to use run two tech departments, we run all you know and depending first the metaphor when you on how many people they have dpa is actually it's actually fall in a trap you don't expect supporting two departments right now. >> so is the budget request the trouble to serve you to get here that 10.3 million for 25 and 10.8 for 26 exclusive of you out of it right? what you expect the work to be for dpa and speedy or and >> make sense now i'm going to use an allegory. there's a separate some amount for the work that you're doing you are a rabbit. you got cut in a trap. for the sheriff's apartment or is this an inclusive of that as well this is inclusive of that >> what you do is that the rabbit you you try to get out right now but we're working with the mayor's office to of the tribe right first not all you don't expect to get out figure out we're going forward the stay as oig recently had alive from the trouble. their inspector general resign. >> the trouble the trap to kill you the only hope you can have so we're working on that with them. this really are a reflection of is at some one save you open our budget is that it's a flat

budget. we're basically asking for no cuts. no we want to keep and maintain what we have right now without the trap before you die i am the 15%. so we did that 15% is not added this person if you do not understand or to get out of the into here at all. >> thank you, vice president carter oberstar thank you, trap you put yourself in because of whatever reason money i think it's money you president ask sir so can you just clarify i just want to are then the people who put you pick up on something commissioner benedicto asked so can you just clarify when you say the work that you do for in this trap are not going to save you ever they are there to the sheriff's is just based on the actual work performed that just kill you how quickly so that means you don't get up for an allocation that you get you get refunded after the fact please self-control thought it based on your hourly rates for the employees who worked on the sheriff's department. >> that's correct. so basically we make an estimate of what the work order is going to be and then we perform that work. that work is hourly. it's tracked just like you were doing working at a law firm where your billing hours we take that calculated in and then every quarter we get those . hi everybody. funds back based on the actual work we do. i'm here to honor somebody and to to a to one of the chiefs >> it's not a set fund but then

the individuals doing the work pr people the he promised to are salaried employees and so is i guess sufficiently contact him and honor him and confident that they will bill do this and that and all that hours in excess of their salary but and he and he let it down. he didn't do it. . so we base our work orders i've got i'm going to talk to based on previous years and so you about a guy named grant and it's an average one that we expect to use. i i mean there are a lot of really good people out there, a we've been doing it for about three years now so yes, we i'm lot of brave people, a lot of sorry. >> please. so yes we do we are we are wonderful people who go on recognized this guy is a estimates are pretty accurate for the most part. barista downstairs for me and >> right. that's that's helpful. carlin's cafe the i'm an old thanks. and then this might be more of single bachelor so and i love a question for director henderson and want to pick up on something that that it. i was married six times and i commissioner clay raised which mean i love him dearly but i'd is i know that it's hard to do this in advance and you know rather live alone so nick says, have a complete picture and it's very sensitive. hey, what are you doing for but i just would like for you thanksgiving? to give us a more granular picture of what lay offs would i said i don't know. have to look like in a scenario sutton stare at the wall crying. you know, he says i can't come where you're being required to cut 15% of the workforce or to thanksgiving in my house so have the budget. i had thanksgiving at his house >> well, at this point i think it's clear at least from the and they held things for me and presentation that nicole has all kinds of stuff. presented so far it's a very

a few weeks later a guy comes in, he starts at 630 in the lean department already. so almost any cuts again morning 645 and comes this guy there's not outside expenditures. bare mace the hoodie. it's all salary positions. >> the whole thing comes over so any percentage of the cuts one customer with a backpack which was all he's got in the world and guy grabs it and have to come from the specific there's a perfect shot of it. there was a camera. work that's being done in the it went viral. department and as we said, it's >> six minutes of him coming exacerbated by the fact that around the the bar there the department is also grabbed a card as the guy supporting the work from the sheriff's department at this time. rushed out, slammed the card there's only one employee on into the guy wham door on him. the sheriff's side that's an vadim all over back and forth administrative position that across and took a whole bunch does the work in liaison with of bear spray and then got him down and got him in a headlock with his legs and held him until the cops got there and he the board which acts as the commission not the board of just was not recognized and everybody came to the cops. supervisors. and i'm explaining all of that and probably way too much i recognized the guy. detail. i mean say something i want to but just to point out that many a couple people you know nothing at all. so i saying nick grant, i thank of our staffs wear double hats you for being a hero it evening and all of the work that is being done at this point now

aside from the administrator role, from the one employee is i just wanted to talk it's not being done by the epa and so the cuts are our pretty about my son today but i understand and i just saw on treacherous for us at this that max carter over stone is point there are really only going to be leaving us. i am very upset about that. three classifications of our staff in the agency and that's >> i he's the only one that is legal investigators and administer of our implementing the the resolution on how to to for tipsters to administrative side has been come forth. cut for a very long time. i say that too when when when we've had problems for a while chiefs got i thought they were going to get rid of chief scott and i said why do you want to trying to have staff fill some do it to retraumatize us? this is retraumatizing again of those positions and we have that people that come in and been able to fill a lot of those positions for a while. that has helping us and we're if we were to take cuts and to losing them. >> i know march quarter keeps people on their toes but that's move forward with the cuts even as proposed it absolutely means no reason why you should get and i think this answers your rid of them if it's helping questions directly i'm sorry for the warm up to it but cuts people. >> people were pledged to for us means direct diminished protect us and then when we when we get some leeway they capacities in our have to leave us that bothers investigations and me. that definitely bothers me. investigators and with the

i would love him to stay here. legal teams in management and you know aside from the various >> daniel laurie, if you're listening, please. he has help implement this are from aside from the obvious of the several hundred resolution on tipsters to come independent investigations that through. >> keep him here. he's helping us mothers as well we do a year and the intake process that means that the as chief scott as well as dean preston has got my son's name investigations which we've worked very hard to be respond up on that street. >> who was going to do that? who was going to help that? to too and reducing the amount and not only that last time of time that the investigations when i was here i was told not take and the cases are closed to talk about a certain thing. you know, when you get people that we've been tracking and to come up here and saying and those numbers have gone down talk about you don't understand what they're saying the cindy exponentially over the past few years to a level of efficiency lot that she just said don't speak about that. and professionalism that i think the public expects that i what did i do anything to you, think this commission expects that i think the department miss cindy? i didn't do anything to you for expects there to in the past you to stop me from talking on the last time i was here when when those processes would take you got people coming up here a very long amount of time i not speaking on the agenda. but i'm not i don't mean to even count your name out and i'm sorry, but i'm very think hurts not just the disappointed about people expectations of the public but it hurts the department for

leaving us and then we're folks that have allegations getting retraumatized again. then the investigations and the hearings take way too long and >> please keep people here so those allegations are you know, that we can finish and get this case solved. >> how long have i been coming they they hamper the professional careers of the here asking for support? >> how long have i been coming department and those are all the things that are at risk of here saying the fine waves, the just to help my son and other becoming longer and bigger problems for dpa and for the mothers that are here. >> thank you ms. brown. city in my opinion. and that's before we address how many times this is me and the diminished ability to have it's bothering and you don't the trainings at the level that want to hear me but i'm tired. we have them and the i think the problems that would be i'm tired. everyone that come in here and raised even with the i say well why does this person transparencies that we're able have to leave? >> why did this person you have to deliver currently in the to leave this brown thank you. department. >> well can i ask speaking of woman i'll take care of my kids. transparency, do you think that i shouldn't have not lose my this will result in it will son to murder. affect the charging decisions that dpa makes that certain >> i need this board to help me cases won't be charged because to help the police supervisors there just won't be you'll have just implement this at that. to triage and you'll have to max carter open school. decide which allegations are worth pursuing with charges >> mr. brown thank you, but whether they're kind of your two minutes is over. thank you.

>> you did? sustained or not. >> i think rather than looking at the charge i don't know that the charging would be changed you need to wait. what? i need to know is there any directly because we would be following our charter obligations in the same way. i think that the back end of it further public comment? would be that the cases would leave me alone. be more difficult to process, right. and there's no more for the public comment line item two they would be more difficult to consent calendar receive and investigate, they would be more file action dps retention difficult to close connecting policy safe streets for all the investigatory work to the fourth quarter 2024 update donation of a horse of speed's legal analysis and legal presentations that process mounted unit valued at $22,000 would be it's already at as a annual secondary employment report for 2020 for capacity and the only thing that could happen is that that process would go longer. the semiannual report to the police commission sexual my real concern just in assault evidence kit from december sorry july 1st to answering that question is the december 31st 2024 and a resolution urging the board of 3 or 4 official sources that have been built into our supervisors to retroactively process that we have not had to authorize the police department to accept and expend in-kind because of the hard work of the agency have not had to be we've gift of 1800 units of naloxone valued at 81,300 through the not had to worry about that for naloxone distribution project. the past 5 or 6 years now and that was an absolute >> that >> can i get a motion? was going to be my next question.

>> motion to receive and file a >> do you think you'll below 3 or 4 deadlines as a practical second. >> what before we do that is matter? i mean i think that's what's at risk and that was a standard before we got to this level of about the horse. >> about what horse? staffing that was a given for no, it's not about the horse with respect to your retention years and just an accepted loss policy where any questions? i think from the commissioners i'm not sure this should be the . >> i think that's a great risk for the public. i think it's a great risk for consent item if there was any concern some of the stuff that the process of oversight and i think it diminishes the was in the retention was that what your question was? professionalism of the city and >> i was just going to add a comment about it. yeah. what was your comment? for the department for that to be at risk. just i want to say it was a >> let me just ask about you whole team effort updating the mentioned admin legal management as the three buckets policy but i want to acknowledge sandra wilkerson who did the yeoman's amount of of employees is do you have any work for it. sense as you sit here today it was a complicated process involving the city attorney's about where layoffs would have to happen if if and when it office, comptroller's office, mayor's office, retirement comes to that the layoffs would office and payroll to get it done. have to we have such few and but i just wanted to acknowledge the work that was such little admin and those are done that was it. we just updated the policy. those are not the funded >> these are for records, right? yeah, right. okay. all right. positions that would make the most impact. so i don't know what the direct

>> so i have a motion on the floor with the second sergeant any member of the public would like to make public comment correlation is because all the positions are different but it regarding line item to the consent calendar please approach the podium and there would take several of the administrative positions to add up to the value of the other is no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay, how do you vote? yes commissioner clay is yes. positions and so we are it the commissioner benedicto yes. commissioner benedicto is yes. commissioner yan yes. only way to move forward yes. mr. yan yes. is yes commissioner yea yes effective early and then it commissioner. >> yes. yes. vice president carter ober causes more problems. i mean they're problems all the stone yes. way around but the only way to vice president carter roberson address $1 million ask for a is yes and president elias yes. present elias is yes. you have six yeses line item budget like ours is to take the three adoption of minutes cuts with the investigations action for the meeting of divisions and with the january 15th 2025 so move if management divisions and yeah and why why would the investigation why would the investigators be one of the any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding the line item three primary ways given that you adoption of minutes please know a lot of different people approach the podium. are overworked dpa clearly but there is no public comment on investigators are as far as i the motion. commissioner clay how do you vote yes commissioner clay is understand extremely overworked yes. commissioner benedicto commissioner benedicto as yes and those are the people who commissioner jonas yes. are the most vital for not commissioner jonas is yes commissioner ye yes commissioner yes. missing a 3 or 4 deadline. yes. and vice president carter stone

yes i was present carter always and on top of that, as you just mentioned, you know, jonas yes. and president elias? yes. present licenses? yes. investigator salaries are lower than for example, management you have six yeses lean on him for chief support discussion weekly crime trends and public salaries and so you'd have to get rid of more investigators to make up make up the safety concerns provide an shortfall. so why why would why would we overview of offenses, incidents focus on investigators? or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on >> it doesn't seem intuitive to me. the public safety commission discussion of unplanned events well, there's only three and activities the chief describes will be limited to buckets to pull from and the buckets between investigators determining whether the calendar for a future meeting. >> chief scott thank you and management and in management those are all the sergeant youngblood. lawyer positions as well. >> good evening president elias vice president carter over they are not as vast but they stone commission executive director henderson and the are significant certainly public starting off of crime higher and broader than the admin and so those are the only trends and the chiefs report two buckets to pull and draw this week overall there is a from and as valued as the investigatory process is the 36% reduction in part one crime management and the lawyer process is valuable as well. i think the cuts would have to year to date so it's a good come from both of those buckets start after a really good year not a singular bucket. last year. but just to break it down did that make sense? briefly. total violent crimes are down that makes sense that before 14%. two more questions one it's total property crimes are down been publicly reported that a 39% in terms of violent crimes senior member of management was homicides we had one year to recently dismissed for inappropriate racialized date compared to three last year and our robberies are down

comments that she made is her position again for purposes of 22% by about 42 robberies less than this time last year this 15% analysis is would not assaults we're up by three assaults so that's a 2% filling her position count increase in assaults property towards the 15% cut? >> i wish i could answer that question but i think those crime is down 39% led by answers are still being reduction continue reduction in addressed and talked about. we have not been able to use car break ins, car burglaries are down 76% from a year ago that position if that makes 1100 a year ago, 451 this time sense. we we've started we of course this year. so that is driving our crime tried to receive and take as numbers also going back to many benefits from not having that position field as much as violent crimes for a second, shootings are up slightly by possible but that doesn't speak to a 15% withdrawal. 7%. >> last question it was there were 15 victims this time last year, 16 victims 2025 who are shooting incidents are up reported several months ago now about staff certain staff and our shooting victims are up people being being disappointed in terms of the incidents that with working conditions or we had the major incidents over the past week is led by being critical of certain shootings. we had five non-fatal shootings managers within dpa and there was i think a union survey that resulting in five victims shot. the first one was on the 27th

of january at 4:54 p.m.. kind of collected responses. how will dpa ensure that this is at ninth and mission layoffs are done in a way that which resulted in an officer involved shooting and we did leave employees and the public have a town hall on that one yesterday a virtual town hall. satisfied that individuals who but the details the subject ran up to the victim and shot him multiple times. had the courage to speak out a person fled on foot and the are not being targeted for for victim was transported and is now in stable condition. mandatory layoffs as a result of their decision to to speak the incident resulted in an officer involved shooting. up? >> i think that process would it was pretty horrific shooting speak for itself. i mean certainly no one is as you watch the video that we trying to move in a direction released publicly yesterday and thanks to a good samaritan who reflective of that specifically . just happened to have medical but obviously we're working very closely not just with training that was passing by, staff but also the unions that are meeting with this regularly medical aid was rendered until the paramedics could get there and our h.r. person on a regular basis in so we just want to thank that ways that didn't even exist person for what they did to previously. save this victim's life. other shootings on the 30th of so those meetings are continuing to take place and the process of the the the january at 3:43 a.m. in the 900 block of quay avenue in the bayview. the victim was shot twice by a

sibling and sibling fled prior process of of whatever cuts we to the officer's arrival but the officers were able to would be asked to make locate that person the next day certainly we would be following the city's guidance and how and make an arrest on the 2nd they wanted those processes to take place. of february at 12 a.m. in the 100th point in the bayview district, a victim was standing but those discussions will include the discussions just like this about what the roles outside of their car when they heard gunshots. victim felt pain realized that and those functions would be and what those cuts would look they had been shot. the victim transported themselves to the hospital. like in terms of diminished service not on individual the injuries are non-life threatening. participation. >> okay. that is still under investigation. understood. thank you, mr. clay. no arrests have been made in the last one to report on the thank you, madam president. 30th of january at 1:40 p.m. on the 2800 block of cesar chavez i'm i'm done. commissioner carter oversaw the . the victim was in an argument with the subject during the stone he and asked the argument the victim sustained a questions. i need it. i think he is follow up is gunshot wound after allegedly using a chemical spray on the fine. >> i'm good. thank you, sergeant. subject. the victim was transported in if any member of the public stable condition. an arrest was made on that case would like to make public but there is further investigation that's warranted comment regarding line item nine please approach the podium on that case. >> and then on the 2nd of and there is no public comment february at 5:09 p.m. in the mission district there was a due to removing one of eight. we are also removing line item call that came out of the

shooting but the investigation ten and 11 so we are going and revealed that that was actually a self-inflicted shooting and an attempted suicide. 13 so we will go to line item significant arrests this past reporting period or this 14 which is adjournment motion reporting period. there is an underground gambling operation where a to adjourn now much needed this is done. pretty significant >> okay. investigation resulted in three all right. thank you businesses being identified as operating illegal gambling facilities in the tenderloin officers via a search warrant seized multiple gambling machines narcotics cash over $30,000 in cash believed to be made by either narcotic sales or gambling and four subjects were arrested and 11 other male adult subjects were cited for various misdemeanor violations. these locations where were often complained about in the community and we believe that this is going to be a high impact arrest in terms of shutting down these locations

and likely a lot of the problems that surround these locations. so just want to thank all of our officers for the diligent work of narcotics officers. our tenderloin officers and our demak officers were involved in complaints and not (indiscernible) that concludes today's this investigation and this arrest during a dimmick overview. thank you for your time. >> what happens after a complaint is submitted? when fugitive recovery operation dpa receives a complaint, the first step is it to assign it to a investigator. if last week. our future recovery enforcement the complainant provides contact team made 59 arrests in a one information, they receive a letter telling them day operation. this was involving various law knoo they assigned investigator will be. if the complaint is enforcement agencies around the tenderloin and southern districts to focus on fugitive submitted anonymously they will not receive further from justice who had outstanding warrants out of the contact from dp. >> what happens when 44 of the arrests people had, dpa finds a police miscucktd? the suspects had outstanding >> the dpa find warrants and during the arrest misconduct, meaning sustain a officers located suspected complaint, drugs and other illegal illegal the next step is to determine how serious the misconduct is and what discipline illegal evidence that resulted the dpa in the remainder of those arrests. will request so really, really good work by this joint task force or (indiscernible) the dpa does not

operation led by our tenderloin itself impose indymac and southern station discipline and can only recommend discipline in a officers. sustained case. few other significant events >> what happens if a complaint turninize to a chief this past week. there was a stabbing in the nonnob >> if the dpa decides 3200 block of fillmore and a to northern district victim and recommend 10 days suspension or girlfriend were dancing when they end up in between two less, the chief of police is roofs, an altercation resulted in the victim was stabbed by a the final determner of suspect who is yet to be both identified. that investigation is ongoing. whether misconduct occurred, and if the chief also there was a home invasion robbery at the one 10,000 block agrees misconduct occurred, what the of mission street in the disciplineitary penalty will southern district. subject entered the victim's be. in those cases if the unlocked room when the victim chief disagreewise was in bed and started to take dpa, the case is over and dpa does not items. a struggle ensued and the have any recourse. if subject fled with the property. the no arrests and that chief decides that investigation is ongoing. there were no sideshows and no misconduct occurred, and to significant traffic or fatal or impose discipline, an officer has a right to a hearing serious injury traffic before that collisions during this week. decision is final. >> what happens if a just one other thing to report dpa complaint turns into a commission level case? here and this is about is the >> if the dpa

determines a 11 blessing scams that have been day suspension all the happening in the city. way up to termination is the we've had at least seven appropriate outcome incidents so the department working with the district for a misconduct case, a trial is attorney's office and many of held in front of the police commission. normally, the community groups, chinese community groups and through one commissioner presides the media have been trying to over the trial, then the entire raise awareness on this issue. commission will read we've put out a video regarding the blessing scams. transcript and vote. if the commission determines we have gone on merchant walks misconduct occurs, then the commission also determines what and community walks passing out fliers and it's paid off. the penalty will be. we had a victim or potential victim who actually got if you information from the are stopped by a police officer information we have been you should follow the officer putting out and recognize what direction, keep calm, was happening. keep still, and do not make basically call the police and sudden movements do not reach prevent it a blessing scam from for anything, especially happening. so that's exactly what we want in your pockets, keep your and that's exactly the reason that we're doing this. hands visible at all times. so we'll continue to to do you have the right to remain silent. that. this is these things tend to this means you do not have to say anything. tell the officer i want to remain cycle and right now we're we feel like we're having to spike silnts. you have a right to a attorney. tell the officer i them so people are losing a lot would like a of money and and most of the attorney. if you are

times are victims are elderly arrested do not talk about your and many of them lose if not case or all of their life savings, a immigration status to anyone other then your attorney. do not sign anything significant portion of their life savings. without your so we will continue to work attorney. do not lie hard to investigate and arrest to law enforcement officers people that commit these type and if you are property are being of heinous crimes. and that is my report for this searched make sure i do not consent to week. the search. do not challenge the officer, you can file a complaint about police services later, if you are not >> any commit? comfortable speaking english you can ask for a >> commissioner clay now we're in good shape, chief. bilingual officer who speaks keep the good work going. your language and also ask >> all your staff and people for a keep it going. thank you. thank you, commissioner. interpre commissioner thank you very much. president cindy elyse i just want to touch bases on that >> you're watching san shooting on ninth and mission. i want to thank the 911 callers for making it clear to the francisco live with chris people calling them to apply manner. >> today's s f f is - pressure during the shooting and for a quick response by two officers and a paramedic. looking at the i guess the town >> hi, i'm chris you're

watching or imagining the city hall meeting always looks like the two persons shooter had quite a cache of firearms in we have ivar satero director of sfo welcome to the show. there and looking at the video, >> go to the with you. i was just wondering if he might have been involved in >> thank you nice to see let's other shooting events or is talk about how the airport as there a continue investigations on the arms see whether there and the number of depreciations match any ballistics from, you know past shootings? you're serving. >> yeah. it is really exciting >> yes. commissioner, there is still an ongoing investigation even we consult strong out the crisis and full swings with in carriers though the suspect is is deceased. the person involved in the shooting was is deceased. and poetry's and great there's still more investigation to be done dedications have a lot more to including things that you just mentioned. the mix and we have others we there were numerous guns recovered from his his apartment so we still have some had talked about wonderful depreciations and people are work to do in that case. loving that we're at with an >> my follow up would be on the hundred and 10 percent the shooter or the suspect is precovid international position regards to is there any past history with the of the as a pd without the full recovery so we'll anticipating china but the

recovery is excited to see how or the law enforcement. busy the temperance are those >> without going into details with the person's criminal days. >> had renovation or expansion history, we we are looking into plans are currently underway? that as we investigate it to >> great. a lot of exciting see if that's connected to any programs we suspected some that other crimes. >> yeah. and looking at the parents have the work because of crescent trail he now we're back calling in or reporting also in full spring or swing and that their son was had a mental finished the harvey milk terminal one and talk about health condition too as well. is that true too. setting a standard in passengers >> or if they report it as such traveling and it exceeded any . >> yeah i can't disclose his potential you know health exceptions to finishing harvey milk terminal one and now information publicly. okay. but there were there were knowledge on another terminal questions about that also. that's one of the last terminals to receive the 70 patch focuses >> thanks. thank you for the press conference on i guess the last on the passengers expense and the in chinatown on bush and west torrential has will kicked off and now taking the next four kearny i think commissioner and a half years to 34re89 34re9 kevin benedicto and myself was there to attend making sure and have a lot of the investment structure and part of on that the announcement went out

to the chinese media and the $11 billion investment over the media throughout the city. 5 years to seven years and thank you, chief. thank you. >> chief, in your report i $8 billion and $3 billion in the noticed you didn't mention it but whether you had an update extra and excite to implement a on i know in the paper there were speculation that ice was new wastewater treatment plants here in san francisco. and we'll be able to reuse the >> did you have a report on that? >> what i can say about that there have been a number of water at ivar satero director of sfo and next the question is san false alarms that we were able francisco san francisco not we but collectively between international airport is well common for the opportunity. community city school district >> could you debilitate on ,mta management, we were able those a little bit. >> we set aggregate goals we set the zero goal this is the to actually get to the bottom of some of what was out on social media that caused a lot zero net energy greenhouse gas of fear. one particular incident that emissions and zero water and we happened was last friday of the friday before last. have had that as one of the the report that was going out permit values for over a decade on social media is that ice was and exciting to see our entering on busses and they were making arrests on muni busses. use is down by 4, 3, 2 , 1 that turned out to be not true. we believe we found the source percent if 2012 our water use is of where that came from.

there were san francisco police detain 20 percent and is department officers on busses greenhouse gas emissions is down for the purposes of a call that thirty percent and that is about they received to reunite two the investment we made and the little girls with their brother. they got in separated and quality of facilities we build somehow the girls and the brother weren't on the same bus and reduces the entering consumption and heating and so the officers got on the bus cooling those things when we make those investments what is that the reports that were that commissioner vietor that benefits the environment when we going out on social media that design and plan the buildings is the ice agents had reportedly been on and we were able to really exciting and wonderful to verify the video that no ice agents had been on the bus. see little success we're having. >> i think about the future and but our officers had they did reunite the kids and there was skuntd fuel and we building that also a vehicle that was since 2018 to show the photographed that was believed leadership in the advancement of constitutional aviation and 70 to be associated with the alleged ice agents. will be the airport for the fuel that vehicle turned out to be a california fish and game of any airport in the world this vehicle that had nothing to do with any of this but the pitcher went out and it was a year and next year and so that's fuzzy picture and a lot of people believe that that was a a huge workforce at 70 but homeland security vehicle. it was not. undoubtedly has an impact over so that's just one example. we've had a couple of other the regional xhivengz and just there was reports of ice agents

at a school and we were able to facts as you, you know, we are work through the school the latter jock center in san district to verify that that did not happen as well. mateo county we have 40 thousand >> so there's just a lot of people at 70 and we contribute beer out there and you know, as about 40 board of appeals to the regional economy about one as we walked into this building today, there was a person hundred and fifty thousand job is rely on the successful reportedly who had ice jacket operations of our airport it is on that had no affiliation with really a tremendous interest homeland security. so there's probably a little rate to our economy and about bit of that going on too. the operations and construction so our basically what we try to programs and you'll talk about the investment we've been do as much as we can is you try investing in the facilities for to vet the information and so many years i've been here 3 verify if there's a rumor out there that or information we decades and under construction that whole time almost and the try to verify whether or not is that valid or not. job addition for the we we do not interfere. contradiction program is we do not participate in ice meaningful for well paying immigration enforcement efforts trades work and intifrmz has on but that information when it's a priority and this year with out there and it's unverified is cause a lot of fear. our interns yesterday over one >> so and i appreciate you providing an update to the hundred interims supporting the public. >> one of the things that i team we're a perspective of the will ask next week given in the support we get the the labor

that is available to 70. the new administration has >> that's great. indicated that they will be >> so finally what withholding federal funds for sanctuary cities. i'd like to have an update next advancements will be for the week as to the department's position or policy or how you passenger experience and operations, you, know, many intend to convey to officers what they should and should not people for those of you who don't know the history of this is a long alter 70 and in father be doing when presented with these type of situation. and since we are a sanctuary 1959 we had jets and the city because i don't believe we have an immigration our disruption that has happened are immigration policy is still in particularly with uber and lyft the works. it hasn't been updated so i wiper the first airport to think we should provide officers clarity with respect to policy whether it be a permit their precautions department notice until we can get the dga revised as to what $50 billion and with the taernlz they should do when encountering federal agents and how we're going to deal with with the technologies like that. >> yes. yes, commissioner president automatic. >> what an experienced for last and 5.15 the gop is the people going to the check lines prevailing dga but we have and our dependant cure system the bag system the lath worked with the city attorney's office as have all the technology and the first in the departments on that very issue. u.s. so have an independent so we'll work with them as far carrier system and 0 now you as whatever information that you want will continue to work hinge with the notification it

is really tremendous particle as with the city attorney's office. to me one of the things that's we develop a new facility but, important is that you know, all you know, for us too about our city departments or on the same operation and unfor the future page in terms of how we are there is exciting new addressing this issue. >> good. thank you. development happening we have >> sergeant, any member of the recently implemented a ground if any member of the public based agree mansion system that would like to make public comment regarding line item for is technology improves the the chief's report, please approach the podium just i am h arrive rate of airport and allows for which the development of arrivals that benefit community by higher elevations and offsetting over the water we brown and the mayor came to my invested in that that noise and birthday party. >> did you come to your birthday party? ha ha ha ha ha ha. quality of life but also, you know, for the delays details >> he also came over and had coffee with me for for an hour delays are a community by the people when cooler weather and it for barrel i have i'm an idiot guy you know i don't do traffic comes in after midnight well. i pick up trash but the so i've we're investing in our got more advice for you daniel familiarity and investing in the operations we have our airport integrated operation system

the you're good looking you're you're you're rich you got a underway with technologies to give us much better especially fabulous family. you even got a dog. you're going to be there eight realtime awareness and auto years. no doubt about it. operations and embarcadero to nobody's going to be able to beat you. and if you don't listen to me, adjust our operations to address the worst thing that you're congestion, you know, roadside going to waste time on in eight congestion and checkpoint years is the cops. >> i mean they are going to eat you alive whether you're congestions gives us much better awareness and other things we winning or not you're going to be wasting time. there are tons of things you can talk about that are existing could be opening casinos in the wall but taxis an noopgs 234506gs we or working with the the president loves casinos. let's put a casino on the armory. let's put another in the industry on this that might look twitter building one of the couch pals you can do that. in the 70 and preparing for the you know what? you're going to be given a future of air taxis and one of press conference after press conference after what the cops did. >> okay. elect the police chief. our big initiative to engage the broader region in the the people of san francisco elected our police. developments we have to have this town is 170 years old for policies that address the air the first 95 years or something taxis innovation we are we elected our police chief and somehow we got lost and and the conducting with berkley transportation center and engaging the industry and mayor appointing the police engaging decision makers and the

chief and then the cops are region in helping to develop policies will give us a tied torn between the mayor and framework for addressing the air the play who really runs the taxis that's a step for the next force. but mr. mayor, give this chief a chance to fight for his job in a normal election you can several years. thank you. ivar satero director of sfo for put the elected police chief on the ballot this guy already sharing the information for san francisco international airport told me he said i'd run you we appreciate the time you've know, at the end, you know what given us and thank you. >> we'll be back with another the play like to marty hallorann past president gary one i'm chris thank you for delong as past president they said we'd love to have an election for a police chief, you know who also beloved 500,000 san francisco voters >> come shop dine and play. anyway and why are you leaving taraval street is open for business. >> [indiscernible] the owner of again? >> no, he said the tony the lights don't no, no. tabita's on taraval on-my the chief knows he's in trouble. i mean, you know you're in business is focus on trouble is everything's fake. [indiscernible] my mom's res >> okay, so we have no more government guys. aef and we make muffins and scones and cookies and

>> we you know, it's it's a everything home made. bunch of crooks. >> so how do we deal with this? i mean, i shouldn't say that for me, it is being able to be here because the key for me is a community cafe where to make sure the audience here everybody feels comfortable. is watching. i'm still your you're able to please come in, play and eat at see on the safe good. the tabita's cafe on 1101 steve my what i say is that teraival street. >> take time for teraival there is no distinction so it's harder to find out and i know bingo, a community game supporting small business. you know you're in trouble if you don't know you are less anyone can participate. it is easy, collect special stickers on a bingy stale game intelligent than a rabbit. >> you you have to understand i board and enter a raff raffle got in the trouble. i know you like rodents. yes. okay. so now what? i'm here to save you if you >> first it's always the hardest and when they look back they don't discern or participate in really won't see you, but it's the path that you're paving shown to what i'm telling you you are done. forward for the next one behind you can't get out of the traps you that counts. you are you know it's not possible. >> the power world, the fake (♪♪♪) power now is not going to save you. >> are you joking? absolutely no way.

especially when it's realized that itself fell in the trap set by eternity traps. hi, my name is jajaida durden and i'm the acting it's all over the place. superintendent for the bureau of forestry and i work for public don't fall in them. they did using usury you know works operations. and i'm over the landscaping, the banking system corruption the shop and also the arborist crew. etc. monitor have a good night and some tree inspectors as shift i will here for you as well. i have been with the city and county of san francisco for 17 much as i can. years. and i was a cement mason, that good evening again i just wanted to use the over here was my first job. when i got here i thought that it was too easy. because i was thinking about so i said one day i'll be a the when mayor gavin newsom was supervisor. and when i run this place it in office he said on august will be ran different. and i didn't think that it would 14th can i use the overhead happen as fast as it did, but it did. please? and i came in 2002 and became a >> oh dear. on august 14th, aubrey albert supervisor in 2006. and six months later i became castle was gunned down in san francisco streets. >> it may it may be easy to say the permanent supervisor over that this wasn't it wasn't a the shop. >> with all of those gang on gang violence. it wasn't in one of the worst responsibilities and the staff you're also dealing with different attitudes and you have

neighborhoods and it wasn't one to take off one hat and put on another hat and put on another of those cases where police hat. and she's able -- she's displayed that she can carry the weight with all of these have no evidence, no leads, no different hats and still suspects, no chance to arrest maintain the respect of the director, the deputy director and all of the other people that she has to come in contact with. two killers that shot 17 year old aubrey. >> she's a natural leader. >> i'm saying that there's been i mean with her staff, her staff a whole bunch of shot shootings thinks highly of her. and the most important thing is coming up again. i was asking that the people when we have things that happen, a lot of emergencies, she's that are helping us helping us right by me and helps me out every time that i have asked. solve these cases that they >> my inspiration is when i was a young adult was to become a stay so that we won't be fire woman. traumatized again. well, i made some wrong >> i show this picture all the decisions and i ended up being time of me standing with my son . i never forget this. incarcerated, starting young and all the way up to an adult. when i was in jail they had a this is what the perpetrators left me a lifeless body. little program called suppers >> and it's not just my child program and i -- supers program, this these things that we're trying to implement for us are and i met strong women in there and they introduced me to making resolution on having construction. i thought that the fire department would turn me down

tipsters come forth and also because i had a criminal keeping our chiefs got in history. so i looked into options of what kind of construction i could do. office so that mothers like myself won't have to keep coming up here meeting while i was in jail. and the program that i was in, different people all over and over and over again. they re-trained us on living and i've been coming here for years how to make the right decisions for years begging for justice for my child and not just my and i chose construction. and cement mason didn't require child but all unsolved homicides and cold cases. a high school diploma at that time so i figured i could do >> and i hope that those of you please that letting other that. when i got out of jail they had people entertain you listen to me too as well as they come up a program in the philmore area here and saying listen to me to keep me there. and i went there. >> thank you. my first day out i signed up and >> anyone knows of my son's four days later i started to work and i never looked back. case, please come forth. i was an apprentice pouring concrete. if any member of the public has and my first job was mount zion any information regarding the murder of aubrey abacus, you emergency hospital which is now can call the anonymous 24 seven tip line at 415575444 four. ucsf. and every day that i drive by >> that is the end of public comment line item five dpa ucsf and i look at the old mount directors report discussion a report on recent activities and zion emergency, i have a sense

of pride knowing that i had a part of building that place. announcements. executive director paul henderson thank you. yeah, i did. >> this week well actually this i graduated as an apprentice and worked on a retrofit for city time since the last time the commission met dpa has opened hall. i loved looking at that building 44 new cases and we have closed and i take big pride in knowing that i was a part of that 29 cases. >> the top allegation since retrofit. that time for cases that have my first formen job was a 40 come into the agency have been for allegations of neglect of duty. >> we have 19 investigations story building from the ground up. that have been open for more and it's a predominantly male than 270 days. and 16 of those 19 cases are told cases. industry and most of the times people underestimate women. we still have four cases that i'm used to it though, it's a challenge for me. >> as a female you're working with a lot of guys. are pending with the commission. and 105 cases that are still so when they see a woman, first pending decisions with the they don't think that the woman chief and with the department. is in charge and to know that she's a person that is in charge the we have no matters that are with operations, i think that it's great, because it's different. it's not something -- i mean, in closed session tonight. >> we also have a senior not only a female but the only female of color. investigator and other staff. >> i was the first female

>> nicole is here with dpa as finisher in the cement shop and i was the first crew supervisor, well for her presentation with the budget. in the shop as a woman. when i became a two, the >> i will withhold the remaining remarks for anything supervisors would not help me. in the middle, they'd call me a that comes up on the subsequent agenda for the rest of the evening. that concludes my report. rookie, an apprentice and a female trying to get somewhere >> all right. that she don't belong. oh, it was terrible. it was terrible. >> seeing no names in the i didn't have any support from queue, sergeant, could we go to the shop. public comment please? the ones who said they supported if any member of the public me, they didn't, they talked would like to make public comment regarding line item about me behind my back. sometimes i had some crying, a five the dpi directors report please approach the podium and lot of crying behind doors, not there is no public comment line in public. but i had a lot of mentors. my mentor i will call and would item six commission reports discussion and possible action commission president's report commissioners reports and pick up the phone and just talk, commission announcements and schedule of items identified talk, talk, please help me. what am i going to do? for consideration in a future commission meeting. hang in there. it was frustrating and >> commissioner benedicto thank disheartening, it really was. but what they didn't understand is that because they didn't help you acting president. just a couple of items from my me i had to learn it. report. and then probably about a year

like commissioner you said i attended the lunar new year later, that's when i started to lay down the rules because i had kickoff and busan scam morning press conference with the chief studied them and i learned them and it made me a good supervisor and the mayor and a number of members of the board of and i started to run the ship supervisors and local community the way that i wanted to. leaders were there as well. >> i think it hopefully had it was scary. some good impact. >> i'm sorry to hear that we but the more i saw women coming have had a number of blessing scams in the chief's report but through the shop, i saw change i know the department is being proactive and trying to prevent coming. those as much as possible and i knew that it was going to respond to them quickly when come, but i didn't know how long it would take. they occur. >> i'm in my capacity as the it was coming. in the beginning when i first came here and i was the first commission liaison to the spd's woman here as a finisher, to see collaboration with mta. i had my quarterly meeting with commander nicole jones of the traffic company who summarized the change as it progressed and for me to become a permanent the the recent and continued assistant superintendent over collaboration with speedy mta. the cement shop right now, that's my highlight. i can look dond as part of that the 2025 s.f. pd traffic plan is going to be which was presented the board of supervisors is also going to be provided to the commission. so i'll be made available to my fellow commissioners to look at. and there's also some numbers

on the number of traffic citations that were made in 2024 with respect to those that they can make iand if they need any help, come talk to me. and they knock on my door and i'm working on. commissioner daniels and i continue to work on dejo 7.01. ask how i move up and how i get the chief last week provided a training. i'm always encouraging to go to response to the letter from school and encourage them to from a group of community take up some of the training with d.p.w. members on their suggestions that was converted to a and i would tell them to hold recommendation and responded to thank you chief for sending strong and understand that that that's been provided to things that we go through today that are tough makes you the community and they'll be time to digest that and hopefully provide that back to stronger for tomorrow. the full commission for a final although we don't like hearing vote in the spring. it at the time that we're going through all of this stuff, it dejo 10.11 on body worn cameras helps you in the long run to become a better woman and a was on the agenda for tonight but it was pulled at after the person chief and i had a productive meeting with the bar association of san francisco which was a critical voice in the working group process and that out of that a number of suggestions were out of that meeting. a number of suggestions were made. dpa was not invited to our meeting even though i think both the bar association and myself thought that they should

have been. and so i think i'm going to take some time to make sure that we incorporate some president green >> present yoch commissioner discussions i've had with db's policy director jermaine jones chow. >> present on some of the issues that are >> commissioner guggenhime. that were raised in acting >> present. >> thank you. president carter over stern's the next item is revised draft and hope to have that back before the full commission as early as next week. >> chief, the one thing i want to ask for there's been continued both media and community attention related to the joint terrorism task force. i want to know if i know the last time we spoke you told me that there were no specific asks and moves in that direction but you're sort of monitoring. i wanted to know if there was an update on or any movement and then report on whether or not as a pd will rejoin the joint terrorism task force. >> nothing has changed. commissioner there has been no movement or advancement to rejoin the jta. >> okay. and i want to clarify something that i know that you and acting president carter oberstar. the last time we spoke about this, would you consider an mou to rejoin the gtf under 3.21 as

one that would come before the commission? it has to come before the commission. that's why i see the administrative code. >> okay. so if there were any concrete movement that that would figure it would be required to come before the commission before final approval. >> yeah. right. okay. sir, i just want to be clear because i think our conversation and the last time this was brought up in the commission started a firestorm of misinformation and i want to say it one more time there has been no effort to rejoin the jttf. and just to be clear, what i said is we have always been open to that conversation. we have not made an effort to do that. >> so i just want to be very clear on that. >> thank you. that's very helpful. that concludes my report. thank you, chief, for that clarification. >> thank you, commissioner e i guess acting now chair max carter also thank you very much . first off i want to say welcome

everybody to the chinese new year lunar event here is downstairs. it's here to stay. so in chinese we say gong air joy and and sun and fi lau it and in a year or two snake said and hung over one so i wish everybody continue good health prosperity and throughout the year of the snake also attended services co police department api for metro commander derek lu and also captain eric kim and from central station and also captain brian hu from terrible station commander derek lu reported 2024 results. it was a very positive. community members also accepted it and they saw the difference in this 2024.

>> one of the issues that came out and i'll probably be talking about on the budget is the vehicles of the officers that are i guess inactive and it's probably well you know we talk about more than in a budget. >> thank you chief. thank you. could we go to public comment please, sergeant if any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item six commission reports, please approach the podium. there is no public comment line item eight. >> presentation and discussion on speed is budget fiscal year 2026 through 2027 discussion and possible action i'll be going straight to budget

. good evening president elias vice president carter over stone commissioners executive director henderson and chief scott and kimi wu, the chief financial officer for the san francisco police department. my presentation today will be part one of our budget process and priorities. i will be back next wednesday

to go over more details in the budget process. >> okay. this year the department's priorities is to collaborate, improve responsiveness, measure and communicate, strengthen the department and define the future. the mayor's policy priorities for this upcoming budget has a similar focus as prior years to include improving public safety and street conditions citywide economic vitality, reducing homelessness and transforming mental health and accountability and equity and services and spending. the budget process spans over seven months starting in december with the budget instructions and the budget system is opened.

our second presentation to this commission will be next wednesday evening followed by our official due date for our department's submission on february 21st we will work with the mayor's budget office through the end of may when the mayor will publish the budget on june first. during the month of june we will work with our budget legislative analysts to review our budget and they make recommendation there will be at least two hearings in the middle of june and the board of supervisors shall adopt the final board adjusted budget by july 31st. >> budget instructions were provided in december and confirmed after mayor laurie was sworn in to office. and we should propose and we should propose ongoing permanent reductions of adjusted general funds support of 15% in fiscal year 26 and

fiscal year 27. >> the focus is on core services and limiting eliminating costs in non effective discretionary or redundant service areas. >> we have been asked to review all contracts and non personnel expenses in addition to requesting approval for overnight travel as well as new contract agreements. >> lastly, vacant positions should be eliminated and no new full time employees that do not support core functions. >> there is also a civilian hiring freeze and layoffs are not preferred but may be necessary. this slide here is a look back to the three prior fiscal years current year and the base budget for fiscal year ending 2026 the base budget across all

funds is 840.7 million. >> the majority is in general fund annual operating for a total of 723 million. the continuing project funding has been added in the mayors phase in prior years and therefore you see a slight decrease there compared to prior year in the base budget. >> and lastly the airport bureau is not supported by general fund. this next slide shows the general spending by each category in millions personnel costs have increased each year based on cost of living adjustment services by other departments have steadily increased primarily due to workers compensation, rent and central shops for fuel and

maintenance. our general fund actuals for each of the categories as of december 31st is shown in the last column. there over time actuals are included in the total personnel cost which is the first line and our fiscal year end 2025 year to date actuals is 52% of the budget in total budgeted full time equivalent positions are shown on this slide the total fiscal year 25 fund fte is is 3,032.1 which is an increase from prior years. >> the total sworn fte is 2337 and civilian fte is 695.1.

>> retirement status and staffing a review of our sworn members based on the status by years of service and over the 50 years old is shown here and in the city sworn members 306 meet that criteria and 63 members at the airport are eligible to retire in the city as of december 31st. we have 1475 full duty sworn and 115 at the airport for a total of 1590 and currently there are 56 recruits. we are experiencing an

unprecedented staffing shortage that continues in a downward trend since 2019. >> vacancy budget savings used for overtime backfill to address the staffing shortage and the recommended baseline is twice seven and 70 for sworn members. there are 1566 members if we include a short term leaves or 508 officer short and with 1475 full duty sworn members as of december 2024. >> and for this last slide we are comparing over time as of the first half of the current fiscal year to the annual total from last fiscal year over time backfill and minimum staffing is the primary reason for overtime hours as of the first

half of this fiscal year we are seeing the same number of overtime hours in the categories as last fiscal year from the highest to lowest there and the total number of hours. >> that concludes my presentation sean and happy to answer any questions you may have. so question so from the mayor the mayor's indicated is there going to be a 15% reduction year to year to 2000 2626 and 27 and so and there's going to be all the non-discretionary spending. he's indicating that he wants that terminated, is that right? >> yes. so we were going to we will be reviewing all of our programs for effectiveness as well as contracts and positions to that

extent and i know your this is just a first review of the numbers and we're going to have a second discussion regarding this. so in terms of the idea of eliminating vacancies, what is that? what does that mean? what does that really translate in to for the budget? >> so our vacant position is do cover resulting saving salaries savings that cover backfill for overtime. so at this point next week's meeting i will go over some of that and so we all know we're not fully in terms of employees we're not full as it relates to the allocation a number we know that we need to have this overtime. we need these other officers to fill in for those units that we would have had if we had them filled. and so that comes in take that salary that's out there and captured. is is there a scenario that we can envision that in in fact by the fact if we don't fill those positions that we may have excess over our budget if in

fact the overtime is cut down by way of the fact they're not going to be needed? >> so to answer your question, even though in the last the second to last slide there the total full duty sworn is 1475. we have prioritized recruitment and hiring and until those numbers increase we will continue to rely on the overtime backfill which is the result of the salary savings from the vacant sworn members. >> good first reading okay commissioner, you thank you again to vice president carter augusto just had two questions regarding the the last page regarding general funds over overtime comparison you have february 15th you have the nba

all star in town also the chinese new year pray that you factor in overtime that into this spreadsheet or so this slide here only goes through december so the first half of there but we have factored in the upcoming events next week in our overtime salary projection. >> okay. thank you. and another one is i guess that calls for the officers on the homeless issues that still go to the police department or will that amount of calls will be reduced and would that translate into the amount of volume and man hours you need for for daily use on their. >> yes, there has been some reduction with the city's efforts to the implementation of say the heart team that's that's run out of the and there had in the fire department is

now handling some of those calls to their crt street crisis response team so there has been some reduction and we've been measuring that on the other other side of that coin after the grants pass decision we have been called to to work with those departments on a lot of the issues that in our inner lab. so we do have a team of officers because 28 in total at this point that works with those other agencies because it's collaboration and we're finding that collaboration is really, really important to get at this this issue. >> so to answer your question, some calls have been reduced but work in other areas has increased. >> okay. thank you very much. my last question would be to capital outlay equipment. i see that probably on your page eight. i've been told by many stations

that there is an operator inoperative vehicles and that's if you have ten officers and only five vehicles in operation. so just wondering if that impact your you know, your coverage area and whether we can ramp up getting new vehicles, whether it's lease maybe doing some creative lease financing for the newer vehicles that as needed out there because once you have your vehicle is out also you also have your computer system tied into it that that becomes a problem and reporting to as well this just what your thoughts on that or two so we will be requesting for vehicles this upcoming budget submission and the prior years we have not been getting as not as high of number of allocation for vehicles. so that is a concern as well as

with our central shops maintenance and costs have increased as well because the vehicles are getting older. so we are looking at that and considering to request additional vehicles so that decisions i guess your recommendation goes to the board issue, is that correct? >> we'll be discussing it during the mayor's phase first and then it will again with the board of supervisors face. >> okay. thank you very much. thank you for the presentation on slide nine it shows overtime expenditure increasing into the out years. can you just explain what what the driver of that is? is that because we anticipate having more officers because there is just recently that audit done i think in december showing that a lot of our overtime expenses like a substantial amount were due to fraud, abuse and lack of adequate internal controls.

so i'm wondering why overtime spending would would would go up from where we are now. so on overtime we are increasing the need for overtime backfill. >> they are in the same similar categories where major o.t. overtime is being used as last fiscal year and as you can see on the slide with the city sworn staffing there's continuous decrease in the number of full duty sworn since 2019 right. >> so chief, maybe you might know wasn't what was the percentage of our overtime that the audit found was due to lack of internal controls or abuse? it gave a number of percentages for different aspects of it but it was very substantial rate. >> i don't know off the top of my head is in the report but i don't agree with what you just said. yes there are systems that we need to improve upon but to categorize and most of our is

fraud and abuse is just no, no not not most but just i'm just quoting that audit it did find a substantial amount correct? >> yeah. yes and we will there's a board hearing that we will address and answer some of those questions. but the way that's been framed give the indication that we had this rapid fraud and overtime. that's just not true. that's just absolutely not true. so just to be clear, the budget showing that overtime expenditure is going up, you're saying that even when you get a handle on the lack of controls and the abuse that does exist, you are which would cause a reduction in overtime you still think other legitimate needs will increase such that the total number will rise the first of all there is not a lack of controls but to answer your question yes the overtime has increased because two things personnel costs have increased substantially which drives some of those numbers up. the other part of this is when you're 500 officers short we still have to do the work so the backfield has been basically a way of life for us if we can't we have stations

sometimes that where there's without overtime there's 1 or 2 patrol units to cover a station. we have to backfill those positions. >> third thing is this work that is not necessarily excuse me a call for service that we are called to do for instance u.n. plaza. you know a lot of those those issues that the public is so upset about, they don't result in calls for service necessarily. but we have to staff that almost around the clock to get a handle on that which we have gotten a handle on that. but a lot of those types of deployments over time are car break ins down 60% overtime in the tourist areas is one of the things that help us drive those car break ins down. so you know the work that needs to be done, we don't have the people to do it and that's where overtime comes in comes in handy. >> all right. understood. thank you. thank you.

>> you're ready to go, chief, is there a date been set for the board of supervisors hearing on the auditors reports regarding the overtime spending? they pushed it back and i don't know if they rescheduled it yet but it was no, they have not yet. i would ask that you let the commission know when when that's rescheduled for and then whatever written materials are provided to the board for that hearing should also be provided to the commission for sure. >> thank you. please. you got it visually thank you for thank you very much their presence in the allies. i also want to recognize in the audience our district attorney brooke jenkins here. >> thank you very much for coming to the police commission . sergeant, members of the public. i would like to make public comment. we i had my hand up. >> we also didn't you know

okay. >> is there so sorry about that commissioner yanez, go ahead. thank you, president ladies, thank you chief and community members and commissioners was due to director henderson. just a couple of questions on the budget. one of the one of the requests from the mayor's office is to identify areas of non effective discretion, injury or redundant spending. what process is the department undertaking to identify and address and respond to this expectation and instruction from the mayor's office or commissioner we've we've tasks are for personnel to number one identify those programs that we're spending money on. you know this discussion about overtime you know a lot of

there's a significant amount of money that goes to initiatives to address crime tourism deployment tenderloin deployment, direct deployment, those types of things. so those are operational things that there are some overlaps in that and you know, maybe there are some efficiencies that can be gained there. programs that we do like are youth programs that require personnel that don't require a whole lot of money but it requires personnel to to do these programs the wilderness program or some of our po pao programs and all of those things everything has to be evaluated and what has been asked by the mayor and the budget office is to evaluate them for effectiveness and if these programs are either redundant or not effective then those are the programs that are most likely to be done away with. so we're going through that process of categorizing and basically just like you would do in your personal finances

just follow the checkbook, see what we're spending our money on and those that can be attached to a program then evaluate what the program does . how effective is it? well, it's a little bit difficult for us just in closing is there's so many things tied to our core operations that we have to spend money on. it's a matter of determining whether those those things are effective or not. >> thank you for that. i mean and considering that in some areas we don't necessarily track certain metrics as far as whether there's participation or engagement, what's that a gather will you be using to inform those decisions about what is being effective and ineffective? >> well, some things for instance things that support our core functions but let's say extra patrols in an area where we have a spike of crime and we can always look at crime numbers and that's one metric. it's not an absolute metric. other things like community engagement, wilderness pow

programs and some of the things we do with community engagement that's a little bit trickier in terms of what is the measure of effectiveness. we know that those things are necessary but they're really, really hard to measure and other things it's hard to measure as crime prevention. it's hard to measure what you prevent and oftentimes when we are out there patrolling to try to prevent crime from happening so those those crime numbers don't stack up. it's you know, basically all we have is is the statistics that i read about every or talk about here every week. so some are easier than others. i think it's a lot harder with the community engagement types of programs or some of our trainings that are necessary. that's the other thing is we have to actually go through all of our training and prioritize of what's absolutely necessary and what's a nice to have but we may have to do without it as we trim down our budget. so i think you my next question

is with regard to the projects ations of the staffing projections there's a recent article and you know this is a you know, important and to celebrate the fact that despite the fact that we had a record low number of officers throughout the year last year we did have some of the lowest crime numbers, right. whether it be whether it's in violent crimes or a number of murders. and so i believe we did a wonderful job considering some of those challenges with staffing recruitment and retention. and my question is are we expect thing or have we experience or are we projecting a dramatic increase in either calls for service or the population of san francisco to justify an increase to to 2337 officers for fiscal year 2526 or 2627? i'm not sure where that request

lands because it's also challenging to track numbers when i know that the city functions under a fiscal year calendar that starts july 1st through june 30th and a lot of your numbers here the way they're presented are for single calendar years. so it makes it challenging. but the question just is the same are we projecting more calls for service or people in san francisco or is this just, you know, projecting an increase in staffing because that is just the standard way of doing things and we follow trends as far as calls for service and i don't i can't with certainty predict whether those calls are going to be increased or not. you know, the population may go up or down. that tends to generate more calls at the population increases. the other thing though to consider that we are considering whether our calls for service in our response times have have gone up pretty

substantially over the last few years. >> the staff staffing has has gotten smaller. for instance our a priority calls our goal is is now eight minutes you know it wasn't long ago where that response time was six minutes and we used to meet that response time. >> now other things factor here like traffic and population on that be priorities and see priority calls have gone up even more dramatically see priority calls on average is over an hour and that's way beyond what we would like to see on see priority calls v priority calls. we try to get there in 20 minutes and be priority calls. it's closer to double that. so those types of things have to be considered and that's a direct reflection of staffing levels even though we try to backfill with overtime we we backfill we have minimums that we try to backfill when we're short and it's not optimal.

you know there's very few stations that have all of their sector cars working on all the shifts and the night shifts are even lighter so those things are factored in. >> commissioner it's not it's not all about the the calls for service and then the other things that we have to factor in because of changes in the law. for instance i'll give you one example and not be long winded on this we have to assign officers on most public works cleanups in difficult areas and when i say difficult it's like you imply the sixth street that we're working on mission street dpw in most circumstances cannot do their jobs without having speedy security there with them. they've been attacked. they've been assaulted, threatened and they have to have us there with them and that's just the fact of the matter. so those are things that aren't necessarily showing up in calls for service but they're things

that we've been asked to do and that we have to do in order to get where we want to get as a city. and there's more things like that. so until either the laws change that allow us to do that without public works or we figure out another solution, those are the types of things that that are really causing our deployment needs to to increase. thank you for that. just one clarifying question there. when you said that we have experienced an increase in calls for service for context, are you talking about a recent increase post covid or an increase to the number to up in comparison to pre-covid call years? >> yeah, no i said response time calls for service has kind of fluctuated in some areas have have gone down some areas have gone up but it fluctuates but response times have creeped up constantly and fairly consistently since covid and beyond. >> got it.

thank you for that. those are all my questions. >> thank you. i have a good question right. thank you. i said a quick question. i know this is part one of the part two. so as a procedural matter, is there any action needed from the commission for the part one presentation? >> so i know that you answer that question. i know continue for continued feedback and typically what we do is we meet with every commissioner on budget and answer your questions and get your feedback and your your guidance on on whatever questions or concerns we have. so that will be an ongoing thing really up until mare's phase i think you all have to take a vote next week i believe and so we got okay for those commissioners who haven't been contacted you will be to have that discussion derek said apologize for that.

>> okay then then i guess there's no motion needed from our end. thank you very much for the presentation. >> we look forward to additional good evening commissioners. >> i just wanted to thank commissioner clay for his help in coordinating and working with us on this and i think that that is exactly what the chief and commissioner benedicto were referring to with respect to feedback and information that you all can relate to us. thank you. any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item eight please approach the podium and i'm just listening to what little i heard about crimes have been down and there's been less shooting than the crimes has been down and so i was wondering will this leave time for investigators unsolved for two to to work on unsolved homicides like my son and other mothers since the crime is down

and those shootings are up but the crime is down so maybe the investors can do more work on our cases. i'm just asking that please, mayor commit. >> yes, please. ms. brown yes. as far as the cold cases when when like our murders are down and they're down significantly so that actually gives us more time to work on those cold cases. you know your case you have an assigned retired person but it does give us more time to work on those cold cases. so i know a little tennis enders in the homicide unit are working on a lot of unsolved and cold cases because our homicide rate is significantly down from what it has been. yeah, i spoke with my investigator today. he's he's having surgery or had surgery so he's going to be out so i will just wondering he usually calls me often to let

me know whether there's something going on with the case. but since like you said, the crime is down, maybe someone can help him help with our unsolved homicides so that so that cases can be solved since the crime is down again. so and with that thank you. the 14th is my birthday. your just want to tell everyone on the 14th february 14th. thank you. i line item nine presentation and discussion on epa's budget fiscal year 2026 to 2027 discussion of possible actions . thank you for putting it on here already i think there's a budget.

>> good evening, commissioners president elias chief scott director henderson my name is nicole armstrong and i'm presenting the department police accountability budget proposal for the fiscal year 2526 and 26 and 27 minutes a little closer. >> yeah, sorry. that's okay. thank you. >> that was too high. yeah, no worries. all right, so today i'm going to provide an overview of our general our mission or core functions, our budget breakdown and the impact of what the 15% reductions will have on our department. >> all right. as you know, the dpa is an independent oversight agency. our mission is to investigate police misconduct review policies, conduct audits and ensure transparency and community trust. our dpa core functions is investigations.

we investigate it. we we conduct investigations. we examine officer involved shootings, misconduct complaints. we also do mediation and outreach. we facilitate dialog between the officers and complainants and we also evaluate police performance audits such as the use of force audits and stop data. we also do policy and legal where we recommend reforms or to improve our policing community relations. >> we also do our sb 1421 which is our releasing the officer involved shooting investigation records as well as sb 16 and sb two as you saw in the previous presentation, this is just a brief overview over the budget instructions that we received 15% reductions, ongoing hiring freezes, no government travel and try to reduce or eliminate vacancies. so what you see on the slide

right here is dps total budget and this is just our flat budget of what we have and it's 10.3 million that we have proposed for 2526 and then 2627 is 10.7. the change in the budget really just reflects the ongoing pay raises that were agreed upon with the union agreements. there is no additional funding that's being added over those two years. we're also proposing no changes in our staff of a total. right now we have 41 staff listed in our iso as well as in the following year and 2526 on this slide you can see our full budget breakdown. what you'll notice is primarily our budget is salary and benefits followed next by our into bardwell services and that's like d.t. you know our normal ones that we do through the city h.r. we have very limited material supplies our non personnel programmatic funds are to

support any of our charter mandate tasks and we have a revenue which is really just any kind of internal departmental agreements we do within the city. so we do hearings or if we assist with any other functions like that. bd richardson dangerous dog that's that's what the revenue is and any work we do to support the sheriff's oversight department this year in our our budget we are asking really for a minimal item. we're really our main focus for us part of this year is going to be requesting new vehicles, just one really new vehicle. we have one vehicle that's from 2006 and so we want to be able to trade in two of the vehicles for one vehicle so we can respond properly with a vehicle that will hopefully not break down to officer involved shootings as well as two in-custody deaths. so we're going to be requesting more vehicles at our department to do that. >> the current budget impact overall with the reductions

could potentially reduce staff as you saw from our budget, our budget is mostly salary in french we do not have any other areas are able to pay it. we don't have any contracts. we don't have any grants. this is really our focus so we are trying to work with the mayor's office on figuring out how to do figure out the budget going forward, having any kind of cuts with our budget will delay our case resolutions. we have limited number of staff. i said we had 41 majority of our staff as our investigation teams fewer resources will lead to a longer investigation timelines, delaying resolutions that benefit both the community and law enforcement. we will also add challenges to policy and training recommendations because it's going to reduce our ability will be working with more, working on more with less people and it will we're working on maintaining trust and transparency. so even though we're going to lose this we could potentially lose some funding. we will still fall will meet our charter mandate as well as any of our community needs.

>> right? that is the conclusion of our budget presentation. >> i'm open for any questions. i am going to get it. >> mr. clay but before your question can i ask one question? so walk me through the vehicles you have you we have three vehicles, three vehicles, a total of three vehicles. we have one from 26 and we are going to request replacing that vehicle so that way our staff can respond to officer involved shootings and in-custody deaths. >> okay, but how many officer involved shootings and in-custody deaths are you responding to in on a monthly basis? >> oh, not many. that's why we're trying to reduce from the three to just two vehicles instead so that way we have one in case we have one officer involved shooting or in custody and then another one as well for what? >> for the in-custody like so we have because you have people there's an officer involved shooting and and in-custody death at the same time you have two vehicles and we have multiple people that go and

respond to those things. >> if i may only if you give the short version. >> sure. >> there are ongoing responsibilities that involve the jails and the jails are not close and those ongoing responsibilities require transportation and that is regularly independent of the officer involved shooting in those instances that are not as frequent. okay. because that makes sense. commissioner clay you know yeah. >> so i paid a visit over to your office and you guys talk to me about the budget so when i see this the total budget for the year in and so we got mayor funding which is x dollars and they integrate what you do in terms of outside services to

see the diversity from the women to the different coaches in here and know that no one has to ever go through what i went through coming up. and i foster and help everyone instead of pushing them away. i'll talk to women and tell them