. it's my united center to the public for which it stands one nation under god indivisible liberty and justice for all present i would like to take roll please. >> commissioner clay mr. benedicto president. commissioner jonas as a commissioner you hear vice president carter overtone is excused. president elias you have a quorum.

also tonight we have chief scott from the san francisco police department and executive director paul henderson from the department of police accountability. >> okay, great. thank you. welcome everyone to our february 19, 2025 meeting. this is our last meeting of the month with that sergeant you want to call the first item line item one general public comment at this time the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission under police commission rules of order during public comment neither police or personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public but may provide a brief response. alternatively you may submit public comment in either of the following ways email the secretary of the police commission at speed commission and as if comport or written comments may be sent via us postal service to the public safety building located at 1245 third street san francisco, california 94158. if you would like to make public comment please approach the podium.

>> q thank you. good evening guys. okay. i really don't know when i'm going to talk about here. it follows the meeting of mta yesterday so i put that some nay here trying to explain because i think the last time we saw each other i mean two weeks ago i vaguely mentioned to you something called the budget revolution which i started. it's a revolution. so i want you to understand what the name budget means because otherwise you're going to find yeah, it's about money dollars no, no budget stands for the name of the famous dog from the famous books from famous jack london native of san francisco called the call of the wild. >> so the future of humanity is about reconnecting itself with its fellow creatures that is our species.

>> business is over. it lasted for i don't know how many centuries but it leads to destruction we can't see either. so it's going to be beautiful because i'm looking for beauty. beautiful. following the rules from this guys which i'm ordered to follow. >> so orders it but it fits in there i think because we are talking about basically animals which we are i think veterinarians which are going to have an essential role to play and i think the police in the future is going to have to make sure that nobody attacks the veterinarians see not it's about health some hope of course, but. >> so step by step i don't know any way is to get you out of the traps you are you know we are all in including me except i'm working for this guys is big difference.

>> step by step. so yeah, i have a handle. thank you. for the record, my name is christopher klein. some of you know is army is sergeant klein from the united states marine corps active duty. others know me as an investigator who has brought some serious concerns to the police commission tonight i'm introducing myself as the ceo of a nonprofit called paving stands for prejudice and violence in style. and we do a lot of educating on reducing prejudice and violence and bringing the communities together with the police department, the police commission and others. we're all part of a healthy community. we do that with strong individuals for stronger families form the strongest communities not just in this community but the community next to a san mateo alameda and so on and so on. part of this is we're ready to

announce some awards for san francisco. you'll see a section called legion of leaders award. read through that go to the website and take it back to your own where you wear your other hats. if you know somebody that and meets that criteria, we're looking for someone that's a community leader that bridges the gaps between communities bringing them together that has dedicated a large portion of their life to helping communities, helping youths in other areas but also law enforcement. if there's a law enforcement officer that is a little league coach that may be maybe a perfect candidate. so again there's at the very bottom there's some other categories that we have we have some scholarships that we offer to ucsf, northeastern university and university of maryland and we're expanding through the midwest and here in california as well sacramento and l.a. and if you have any questions, my contact information is at the bottom and i look forward to working with the police commission and the police department going forward. >> thank you.

>> good evening. i just wanted to i was thinking about last time i was here concerning sojourner the trip and people down in the trip. >> i do think that if we don't know are history we're doomed to repeat it. >> so who's ever listening this journey of truth helps community, community and police to so that you know, i was just thinking about how when we were there when i was there that how the community came together and how community and police came together. >> so i'm hoping that this happens again and i'm hoping some of you that haven't gone will go a go back again and some of the police officers the may the mayor the the district

by supervisors we need to do that. we need to go back go back and see what happened to us, what happened to our families because again, moderate day is just moderate day now and it's still happening. >> so i do hope this happens again and please if we don't know our history we are doomed to repeat it and we need to know this no matter what nationality you are, what color you are all of us been hurt so we need to know our history and not down it the holocaust all of that people have been hurt. we need to know about that different national are these different different people so journal truth is the place for us to go to learn i never knew about this before. >> i never knew my history and

being there made me know my history. >> i could teach my teach my children and my grandchildren what i learned there. >> thank you. that is the end of public comment for line item two we are removing the grant from the san francisco police community foundation. i want them to consent calendar receive and file action electronic bias audit for third fourth and end of year 2024 and a $5,000 grant from the national association of victims of crime act administrators motion to receive and file on the first two items listed in the last item would be removed. >> all right. second, any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding the consent calendar. please approach the podium and there is no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay how do you vote? yes mr. clay is yes. commissioner benedicto yes. mr. benedict it was yes.

>> commissioner young. yes. yes. mr. young yes. yes commissioner ye yes. >> mr. years yes. and present. yes. >> the minuses. yes. you have five yeses. line item three chiefs report discussion weekly crime trends and public safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety chief scout thank you sergeant youngblood. >> good evening president elias commissioners executive director henderson and the public. i'll start off the report this week with just the general overall crime trends year to date overall port one crime is down 4,434% and that's broken down by a 13% reduction in violent crime and a 37% reduction in property crime. some of the worst driving this crime reduction is there is a 56% reduction year to date and our break ins which continue the trend that we saw last year there's also in terms of deaths in general it's over 30%

reduction in thefts and general . >> so that's really driving the overall crime part one crime numbers down in terms of our violent crime are shootings year to date are actually up 5%. however, our homicides are down. we're at one year to date. we had three this time last year in our gun related homicides or a third of what they were this time last year. >> and we also have we've cleared some older cases so our clearance rate is right now at 300% for the year because we've cleared more cases than we've had homicides this year. so the homicide investigators are doing some really, really good work clearing some of the unsolved cases and i know we have a lot of work to do and hopefully if we can continue this trend it does give our folks time to work on those unsolved cases in those cold cases and spend more energy on those so that that's how we plan to use some of our

resources moving forward in terms of significant incidents this past week, i just want to highlight the nba all-star game and the chinese new year parade and all the work that went into that total team effort for a number of city departments to make sure we had success to basically very significant events. we had pretty much everybody working over this last couple of days over the weekend but we had no significant incidents associated with the nba all-star game, no crimes that we know of associated with the nba all-star game. very high praise from the down from the commissioner of the nba to the security teams that we work with had very high praise for the city of san francisco. what they're seeing in terms of a resurgence of the city as it was described by commissioner silver from the nba, just the energy that they saw this week.

so it was very complimentary. but none of that happens without the people doing the work. so my hat's off to all of our officers and other city employees. they were out there all weekend making sure the city was clean and everything was coordinated and that we had it relatively incident free weekend. on top of that, the chinese new year parade went off without a hitch. very well attended, no drop off. and in terms of the security and policing for that event, no really crime incidents to speak of there were some medical calls along the route but it was a very, very good event as well. so just want to thank everybody who participated in that and the commissioners who participated as well. >> as far as incidents over the past week, there were three nonfatal shootings resulted in three victims wounds on the 12th feb 12:46 p.m. sunningdale and sawyer two groups of individuals actually shooting

at each other when a stray bullet struck an uninvolved victim. the victim was transported to the hospital in stable condition. there was one arrest associated with that shooting and that investigation is ongoing. on to 1325. we don't know the time because we haven't been able to determine the time a victim who was self transported to the hospital claimed that someone he knew shot and robbed him. the victim was in stable condition and the suspect's identity is still being investigated. so no arrest at this point on that particular case. it happened according to the victim in the area of polk and larkin. on the 16th of february at 12:30 a.m., etc. in polk in the northern district, officers responded to the hospital for another victim who was self transported with a gunshot wound. the victim advised he was in the area of sutter and polk when he heard a gunshot when he heard a gunshot and felt pain. no further information was provided. this investigation is also ongoing. no arrests at this time. >> there was an arrest made on

a 2022 homicide case victim and on august 1st, 2022 shot multiple times in the unit block of brookdale. the victim later succumbed to his injuries. during the investigation evidence was located. two years later, investigators received information from that evidence that identified the possible one of the possible perpetrators. on 12 of this year, february 12th, that suspect was located and arrested. the arrest is being handled through the juvenile justice system as the suspect was 16 year old was a 16 year old at the time of the incident. in addition to that we had a robbery the 3300 block of fillmore avenue on valentine's day afternoon. the victim was at work when the suspect entered pointed a gun and demanded property. that suspect fled on foot and was located, detained and later arrested by our our responding

officers. >> also a assault with a knife that occurred in the 2000 block of mission on the 11th of february 4:30 p.m.. the victim was followed into this location by a suspect who brandished a knife and attempted to stab the victim if a struggle ensued over the knife causing lacerations to the victim's hands. the victim was transported in stable condition. that suspect was also arrested at the scene. see this want to report on some of the sites for activity in the bay area that happened over the weekend. first of all, i want to clarify some of the information that had gone out through various media outlets. there were no sideshows in the city of san francisco. however, there were there was a sideshow about 230 in the morning on the bay bridge. that was handled by chp with

the assistance of one of our officers a cpd officers. but it was a busy night around the bay area at 9:30 p.m.. we were advised by it outside police department that sideshows were occurring outside of san francisco. and we started our coordination with many agencies including the california highway patrol. at that point we were advised that a small group of cars were actively involved in the sideshow and they went across the bridge bay bridge headed toward the city. the group was basically disrupted by the california highway patrol and they actually turned around and went back east. >> as a result of what we thought would be a busy night with sideshow activity, our not driving response unit was activated. that unit reported scouting cars throughout the night. and basically our strategy was to get to the hotspots and prevent these events from happening before they could set

up. we were extremely successful with that. we did not have any sideshows in the city. we basically were at the right places at the right times. however we did assist daly city pd about 2 a.m. when hundreds of vehicles ended up in daly city our unit and daly city pd quickly disrupted that particular sideshow and flushed those vehicles from that location. fireworks were set off vehicles poured onto the freeway including headed toward the bay bridge. with coordination with the chp. that's when the larger sideshow in the bay bridge occurred at around 2:32 a.m.. so that was broken up but and there were was at least one arrest and i think there were two at least two cars impounded associated with that sideshow. bottom line on all this, it took a lot of coordination. we were able to prevent these events from happening in the city of san francisco, but it did take a lot of personnel

hours and a lot of coordination. but i want to thank california highway patrol and all the other jurisdictions who work with us to do what we can to coordinate and make sure that not only in san francisco but across the bay area that we try to stop these sideshows from happening. and that is my report for this evening. >> thank you. each chief commissioner. >> i was just say just great report chief. we appreciate hearing all this information and obviously all the public service safety officers and the teams at work this past weekend and doing a wonderful job of having this city shine. and i guess from that we have we convinced at least one celebrity to understand the way san francisco is moving in the right direction and how beautiful this city is. but he wrote a $250,000 check. i just thought that wasn't at that. sir charles barkley who's trash our city now is we're back. so if he says we're back, i guess the world should know we're back. so that's great job and keep doing what you're doing and hopefully we can continue to

assist you in getting you the stuff that you need to do your work and your jobs. >> thank you commissioner. that did get preceded by that op ed from alex bastian that had a wonderful outline clarifying what the issues were for mr. barkley. but i think they go hand in hand and it would open the door to the conversation and the follow up. >> commissioner thank you very much, mr. president. >> sincerely. i just want to echo what commissioner clay said and you report it. i want to thank the police officers and your team the command staff putting together a concise and i guess precise, you know, safety plan out there. you know, you had the chinese new year parade i guess there's probably over 250 to 250,000 people in attendance let alone to stretch that across to san francisco and also the nba

all star events that happen around the city. >> wow. i'm just saying it's just a grand affair and he really hit it off. i also want to also thank the other first responder. i saw the sheriff's out there too as well and i want to thank them too also. >> there was a shooting on the post triangle i think about a day a day ago i can. if there's are any updates i guess you reported next time around. yes, sir. we do have some leads on that particular case so hopefully we'll will be able to report some good news. but we do have some leads. >> thanks again, chief for excellent job and to your command staff and all to officer. >> thank you. >> thank you, sergeant. if any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item three the chief's report i would like to follow up. >> sorry, i have a hand up. sorry about that.

>> i'm sorry. that's okay. it's always challenging. my apologies is thank you for that report, chief. and i really want to convey my appreciation to all the officers that worked. you know, multiple shifts i'm sure this weekend making sure that the city was shining and that the rest of the world could see that san francisco's not only back i don't think it's ever gone anywhere. we've always been a great city. just a quick question regarding the six feet the sixth street jesse project. we received the letter from the treatment on demand coalition and the safer inside coalition with the latter kind of raising some questions and i know there's been some coverage i assumed incorrectly last week that you may include that in your chief's report. but do you have any update information for the public about what the purpose, goals and outcomes that we expect for

that site on sixth street and the tents and the coordination that's taking place there? >> yes, sir. commissioner. the overall goal is to improve the street conditions on sixth street. a lot of the open air drug sales, drug usage there's other just street condition issues cleaning and that type of thing. so it's a really a continue station and an extension of the collaboration that we are doing with our drug market agency coordination center. it's all the same departments except for this effort would be focused on sixth street so that the triage site the triage mobile triage center is basically a parking lot that the city now has has leased a portion of and we have all the city agencies that are part of this were basically sharing their parking lot to bring services to people that need

them. there is a portion there where police officers can do what they need to do in terms of if there is a for instance you know, the if processing or that type of thing. but really it's about engaging with the public, particularly those folks that we engage with on sixth street that need help. you know, this is two weeks in the making and one of those weeks there was really had a lot of pause on everybody's personnel for the nba all-star and the chinese new year parade with this really i would say this week is really kind of a test of what this is going to look like. some of the collaborative partners are public health corps homeless and supportive housing. the human services agency journey home has a has a table out there. if people want to reconnect to their support, you were at whatever city they're from. of course public works the fire department sheriff's p.d. we're

all we all have a stake in this. >> so far there have been hundreds of engagements. there have been just in one week there was i want to say the number is somewhere around 270 engagements where people were connected with, you know, some type of medical services including treatment on the streets, addict of services, that type of thing. there is an enforcement component of this when people are dealing drugs and or using drugs in the streets, you know there is for the youth there's several avenues. you know, we're trying to get people to help just like we did with the mayor. but for the blatant open air repeat at use we will enforce and we have enforce we've arrested drug dealers in this effort and we have a dedicated group of officers that are out on foot beat to support this effort. so so far what we're seeing and what we're hearing is there had been some street conditions, improvements. we're very early on this and i

want to just emphasize that this is not just a police thing. this is really a whole holistic approach and i know, commissioner, you've been very, you know, very down in on what else are we doing besides enforcement. so that public health touches is a big part of this and so far we've had like i said in one week we've had over 200 people. i think the number is to 70 to 70 range that actually have had that public health touch. so that's very, very encouraging and i think we're going to see how this works. and the whole idea is is nimble enough that if it works we can replicate this in other parts of the city as is the hope. >> and are there specific outcomes or treatment beds that are being allocated to this effort in addition to what is already made available through the different partnerships? >> yes. yes. in the in the sense that for

instance some of the homeless outreach teams that are working in that sixth street quarter and that includes mission in that area that has some challenges too. >> so they have been able to place a number of people and get shelter beds for them and you know, we have these in other parts of the city so i say yes and i'll put a asterisks by that but they definitely when they're out there they have habit beds available for people that are willing to take advantage of that. so they're also what mayor laurie i believe just last week announced that there's a new stabilization center coming online is not a is not a significant amount of beds but it will be a help to have another now facility where people can go when they need that type of service. so we're hoping that that will be online in a month or two no later than to hopefully but

that was announced last week as well. but so we've had some some some good fortune with beds being available at this point that's really positive development there. i appreciate the update. i do know that we had postponed a conversation around the partnership that it has with some of the dispatch teams and some of the support that you provide to those folks that are doing enforcement and citations for, you know, the public benders. and so i would love if we could to lapse this new effort since it seems similar as far as interdepartmental collaboration efforts and i will submit a request and hopefully we could get a presentation on this to not only understand better what the recent impact has been but what the long term goals will be and if there is going to be some replication. i know that 63 the mission

would be a site where i think there is a lot of support to be offered so thank you for that update. >> those are my only questions. appreciate it. is there any member of the public has any public comment regarding line item three do you support please approach the podium. >> beautiful. so about from jesus the report was good. yeah it's concise everything considering the tripura you know of course. >> so what do we get? it's interesting because you mentioned the chinese new year is very interesting because i declare the the big revolution started on the last day of the year of the dragon. i didn't know i guess yeah, that's it now we are on the year of the snakes so you better make sure because somebody is going to have to take care of the snakes and there are plenty of them so

that's very i'm not too good with snakes. i don't know because every one of us we're going to have to take care of a specific species and it's done for mandate of five years. no exception is by drawing you get this one about sorry now if you committed crimes you see you're going to have some animals which are not necessarily attractive but we have to take care of all of them anyway so that's making it sort of a joke never mind but it's important because this is the future you mean i like to use the overhead is always i come here concerning my son aubrey at macassar jr who was murdered august 14, 2006 i am glad to hear that homicides are down now and that the tension

can be put on our children on cold cases and unsolved cases. i am praying that and i'm believing one of my son is one of those persons. i do have my investigator but i know he was out for surgery. >> i bring these names of the people that former mayor gavin newsom say he know who killed my child. he names addresses, names and one is thomas hannibal paris moffet, andrew badu, jason thomas, acne hunter and marcus carter. >> one is deceased. i bring these pictures of unsolved homicides that are not solved. i bring this picture of my son that i stand over thinking about one day will i get

justice for my child? >> this is what the perpetrators left me a lifeless body versus that smile you saw earlier on the other paper people ask me why did i so these pictures all the time but if i come in here and i didn't have these pictures and talked you wouldn't understand what i'm going through. >> so i show you what i'm going through. he has siblings, he has sisters, he has nieces, he has nephews that he will never see the nephews and aunt they would never see their uncle again. i will never see my son again. this is all i have. this is all they left me with. so i'm hoping that things will change and that max carter over stone with that that initiative or the unsolved homicides and pain tipsters will follow through. >> thank you.

>> notice the end the public comment line item for directors reporter report on recent activities and announcements executive director henderson thank you. >> as you know the audit is an ongoing process so there will be periodic updates on the audits that have happened in the past but for audits that are coming in the future that are audit director steve flaherty has sent out notifications both to the chief and to the commission secretary this week to announce the new audit that's coming up on use of force. the regular use of force audit is as you know, mandated by charter and that process involves us reaching out to our stakeholders including the police commission to ensure that relevant perspectives are always considered and we will continue in that process. but that's what it is. that's the notification and you'll hear more about it in the future as that process

unfolds as it has in the past specifically with use of force. >> we also brought in three new interns now for the spring semester. they've been integrated into our investigation teams and with our policy unit as a heads up we are accepting applications now for the summer internship program award winning summer internship program and would appreciate commissioners for you guys and the department to spread the word and information if you have interested parties that are interested in working with us this week and our investigator and our investigations unit opened 18 new cases and closed 15 cases since the last commission meeting. the top allegation this week was for conduct unbecoming i think in the notification we sent out it was there's an error and what that classification was so it's not neglect of duty. it was for conduct unbecoming. again, these are allegations

that came into the office. we currently have 19 investigations that have been open for more than 270 days and of those 19 investigations, 16 of those investigations are told there are currently four cases that are pending with the police commission waiting for resolution and 103 cases that are pending resolution with the chief's office here this evening. and the commission room is a senior investigator who is available in case there are issues that come up during this evening's commission and if folks need to get in contact with dpa directly the website is s.f. gov dot org forward slash dpa and the phone number is (415) 241-7711. this concludes my remarks and i will reserve my remaining commentary to agenda items that may relate to the work at the dpa.

okay sergeant any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding a line item for the dpa director's report please approach the podium. there is no public comment line item five commission reports discussion and possible action commission president's report commissioners reports in commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting commission commissioner benedict thank you president elias just a few items from my report. >> first i wanted to wish my fellow commissioners member the public black history month. there's a lot of great programing happening by the city and various organizations and i'm proud that our city continues to recognize this important recognition.

like chief scott said last week i was over the weekend at the chinese new year parade we had great turnout, great weather and people were in really good spirits and i want to commend the department for the exceptional staffing challenges for the parade and the all-star game and additionally i'll be commenting on the next line item for district boundaries so i will save my comments for that one. that's my report. >> thank you. >> any other hands on the dais? all right, sergeant i two quick things so that's okay. >> we're looking for the hand. great i my report will be brief. chief, i wanted to follow up on an email that i sent. >> i've been looking for the community policing annual reports on the website and i cannot locate them and i don't

believe the commission has received one in the last couple of years. >> is there a status update on that? no. commissioner, you said you sent an email on that. >> oh yeah. i certainly mailed to a i believe is a civil czar may have been pretty yourself prior to meeting with them when i had a conversation around measurable objectives and some of the metrics that have been referenced in both the dgo revision and the strategic community policing plan which makes references to those annual reports but we have not received one and since my time on the commission i'll follow up with you i mean i'll follow up with the commission on that. >> thank you. you know it's really important obviously as we are in an evidence based kind of world to to publicly and transparently help the community understand

what it is that we are intending to impact upon when we invest our resources in whatever direction you do. >> and i know that those community policing of both the district plan and the efforts that go on behalf of the community engagement division are important in our engagement with community, improving our relationship to and obviously as we know the more ears and people we have on the street to have confidence in our department to report both incidents and to contribute to solving crimes i think is is one of the reasons why the community policing dgo and strategic plan are so important. so i would love to obtain that information and once that dgo is up for a vote i hope that we can have some community input into that process. the other question i had was with regard to input as i was

working on the investiga into social media dgo previously janell heywood and now jermaine jones working with the brennan center and many partners in the community around this social investigative social media dgo they provided some feedback that went to the legal department and i believe we are expecting some kind of comments or feedback is there a projected timeline for when that will be provided to us? >> commissioner my understanding is there is a video being written that i have not seen yet the department was working on its video. my understanding there was another video being written and i don't know who who all is participating in that but i have not seen it. so the comments i don't know if those are the same comments

that you're referring to. >> i'm assuming that they would be i know that jermaine jones provided that feedback at some point and maybe up tobar of last year and we were waiting for or we are waiting for the legal department to have an update on whether any of those recommendations are going to be incorporated adopted or whether there are any concerns with the recommendation. so any information that can be provided to either jermaine, myself or the commission would be really appreciated. i know there was a lot of work that was put into that effort in meeting with community partners to obtain those best practices and those are my two main questions and updates any i know that i sound like a broken record but you know in i believe december of 22 when i

first started working on the digital 701 the juvenile dg and we started talking about the pre-booking program you had optimistically mystically projected a three month completion timeline. we're now in almost year three. do we have any update on a launch date for a pre-booking program? well what remains i think you mentioned last week that there's going to be another meeting with judge chin. we actually have the draft of the mean at the draft. we've written everything it's been sent out to i think you as well as the collaborative partners on what we want to go with basically and as you stated last week, you know just in at some recommendations that i believe we can incorporate without many changes being

made. so i don't think that's going to be an issue that slows it down. i don't know that we got total agreement with some of our partners such as juvenile probation, but we have a draft that we're comfortable with that we want to move forward with. thank you for that. my understanding is that judge chen does not necessarily believe that the judicial branch of san francisco actually needs to be involved with the program. that was my interpretation. he offered to meet mainly to discuss how we can incorporate some of the traffic court referrals for juveniles into that. so i don't know whether you are saying that that's the reason we're not launching or is the launch not taking place because the juvenile probation department and community partners haven't necessarily agreed to the terms that you detailed in that project the proposed mou? >> no, i'm not saying that the

judges or the hold up at all. i did part of the reason we wanted to make sure we talk to the judges we do believe that the courts has or the judge has some insight that can be valuable. as you know, we've consulted with other cities who have successful programs including los angeles and one of the things that they recommended to us is make sure that you sit down with the juvenile court, the presiding judge to pick their brains and get their insight and in l.a. i know they meet with the judge at least annually maybe similarly annually to just give a status on what the program is doing, how if any effects on the courts and other things. so that was the spirit behind talking to the judge. the judge is not going to hold the program up one way or another but we did feel that it was in the best interest of what we're trying to do to sit down with the judge and have that conversation in terms of the juvenile probation department and there's just

some some issues not not deal working issues but some issues that we just don't agree with but it should not stop us from going forward. at the end of the day they get to handle their cases as they handle them and we get to do at least our part of this the way we think we need to proceed and i don't think there is a whole lot of conflict with that. it's just we don't agree on some of the the back end stuff that we had suggested that they don't agree with. so that's where we are and as you know it's taken a whole lot of input and process and back and forth to get to this point. but i think we as far as we can take it before we launch perhaps we can agenda is this and have a more thorough discussion because i think it seems like it's right. thank you. yeah i'd appreciate that. thank you for that update chief. i look forward to that conversation with judge chen

and hopefully we could clear any of the remaining hurdles and get this program launched for our young people. thank you all. so that's my report. thank you, sergeant. >> any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five please approach the podium. there's no public comment line item six presentation and discussion speeds district boundaries discussion and possible action. >> commissioner benedicto thank you president elias i'm going to tee this up a little bit and then i hand it over to director mcguire for my fellow commissioners, as you know we're required by city charter to consider revised maps for speed district boundaries on a regular basis. so this was the undertaking of that process. i wanted to first thank and acknowledge the many people who worked on this process for a while over a year they were divided into a number of different groups. i do encourage members of the public to look at the posted materials that includes the

report as well as the maps under consideration. first i want to acknowledge our bridge consulting and training which was the vendor that assisted us with the logistics of this process. in addition there were a number of teams that were assembled that were very integral to this process. so one was the executive steering committee president elias asking me to sit on that committee. in addition from the department of emergency management we had executive director mary ellen carroll as well as director robert smuts. we had sophia hayward from the office of the city administrator natasha mitchell from the comptroller's office from sfd, catherine mcguire pete walsh david was our and the chief. so i want to thank the members of the steering committee and the people who filled in for them when they couldn't make it. additionally there was an internal technical group there was a subject matter expert working group composed of deputy chief julian ng, commander nicole jones, commander derek lou commander derek jackson commander urban tero captain jack hart and captain chris canning.

and finally the sfpd project team led by director zach director mcguire who is here with us tonight as well as director diana roach, jason cunningham, carl nikita and maria accountants who wanted to make sure to acknowledge those folks and also to set the stage of what we're going to be hearing tonight to my fellow commissioners, this will be the first of a number of of meetings and solicitations will have on this subject after speaking with our deputy city attorney. i want to talk a little bit about process. so under the process we're required to consider the report and recommendations which is what we are all doing tonight to kick off the process and our required to forward the proposed the proposal to adjust any boundaries to the mayor and board of supervisors as well as post the proposal at the commission office outside the commission's regular meeting location on the city's website and send a copy to the public library. so the conclusion of the presentation tonight i'm going to make a motion that we do

that we're not making any final adoption decisions that we're simply forwarding the proposed report to the board of supervisors and the mayor and posting as required by the charter that will start a 90 day clock which again after consultation with the deputy city attorney will run from our vote tonight. so final action can be taken until 90 days from our action within those 90 days the commission is permitted to hear public comment which i'm sure we'll here tonight and over the course of the 90 days hold additional hearings as needed and make revisions to the map as needed. and starting at the 90 day mark we can finally adopt or continue to discuss as needed. already there's been i know there's some people here for public comment tonight. i've spoken to multiple members of the board of supervisors that would like to make either written or spoken public comment along with members of their community to be heard as well in the course 90 days. and i also want to acknowledge we received the commission's already received some correspondence from different organizations including the

lower polk community benefit district as well as a joint letter from the central city sro collaborative u.s. law staff the tenderloin community benefit district laura polk neighborhoods and the latina. and so i want to thank those organizations for being heard. >> i spoke to director maguire is going to have this presentation. i think the goal is for this presentation to be a little bit high level and then we'll bring this back for fellow commissioners when there are other public commenters and to answer any follow up questions. so there's anything that you want to hear from exactly. director mcguire please raise it or shall have it ready to take back when we come to a subsequent presentation. so well with that i'll hand it over to executive director mcguire and we'll make a motion to forward when we're done with that. >> one other thing it's my understanding that the consultation the consultant that worked with the department on this project is also available via zoom currently so if any commissioners have any questions or want any follow up

that is also available to us in addition to director mcguire's presentation you all are just covering my presentation for me thing i think you go ahead. >> good evening president elias members of the commission director henderson, chief scott members of the public i'm catherine mcguire. i'm the executive director of the strategic management bureau of the san francisco police department. i'm here to present the analysis and process efforts of police district to station boundaries and the resulting proposed recommendations. i'm going to start with just kind of a high level what this presentation will talk about this evening and again we can come back and talk more about more of the details as you all would like to hear more. i'll give you a little bit of background although commissioner benedicto did pretty much cover the legislative recap on this effort. >> the mall talk about project store goals structure the

methodology we used all of the data input that we gathered and then show you the draft recommendations and why where how they evolved and where we landed and why and then we'll talk about next steps. >> next slide. thank you so first a little bit of background. >> this is some of the language from oh sorry back on this is some of the language from the san francisco administrative code. i won't spend a lot of time on this. the work plan we needed to submit last year to the commission we did and then a subsequent one subsequent year later there is an official report which is what we're talking about tonight and then the additional information in the administrative code it included required data and factors to consider and those are listed there on the slide

and they are available in the report online project goals again from the legislation boundaries should operate to maximize the effectiveness and of police operations and the efficient use of police resources and so from that the project had primary considerations of equitable resource allocation stakeholders engagement and data driven analysis. >> as you can see we had sort of these five inputs as we were moving through this these data and analyzing it. we had an executive steering committee and sf pd working committee and the community kind of all working with these iterations of maps and which were input from the arc bridge consulting team and the usb pd project team and as

commissioner elias president elias mentioned that arc bridge consultants are online this evening and can answer any questions you might have about the mapping work that they did . >> so going you all have seen this slide before in a previous presentation. this is just sort of what our work plan was and sort of shows all of the various bodies and this iterative process of talking about how we produced a map went back to the groups, got feedback, thoughts changes, produced another map and etc.. >> so moving on to the methodology. stakeholder interviews were a big first step and we the project team sat with every member of the board of supervisors at the time every district station captain, members of the command staff

and we got external agency input and lessons learned from things like the supervisory redistricting effort and previous iterations of the district boundaries analysis and then we are our contractors gathered a very large amount of data and they started mapping so they mapped population data new new proposed developments calls for service data incident data, neighborhood maps and street center lines. of course are included in most gis maps of streets and so those were also mapped and so you'll see these slides are small obviously these are not intended to be maps that you can actually read. >> they're just intended to give you a flavor of how many different inputs and what all

of the information that we absorbed was so as you can see there's a population by majority race population by dispatch, by police dispatch, by police district excuse me plan developments and on the next slide we looked at the top 20 local locations of calls for service heat map just lots of slices and dices of the data to just see make sure that nothing popped out out of the ordinary and then on the next slide although this is not a map you have to map the data to then create this table so this is where incident data sort of falls out in among the districts among the police districts for 2019 through 2023. and so i don't want to say finally because throughout this

we were getting community input on the consultants website. they had set up a website dedicated to this district boundaries input process and and so the public could actually go and create their own map and we got a couple a few of those and took them into consideration as you can see we also and so you can see that screenshot of the map on the top there on the top right and then below that you'll see a community survey that was also translated and one of the translations that's shown as a screenshot there. so we included community meetings of course you all were helpful in engaging the community by announcing it commission meetings and station newsletters contained information for each of the districts asians and we asked our board members of the board to announce it in their

newsletters as well. >> we also had a few focus groups some additional public hearings that were both virtual and in-person and then of course as i mentioned the map making input from the website which brings us to the maps. >> so there was an initial map there which was an iterative process in and of itself between a subject matter and working group that met with their cpd project team and art bridge consulting and talked through all of that input data and came up with this series of maps that then after discussion and back and forth in discussion with the district captains in particular they landed at this patrol preferred map and then from that went to the the executive committee and

the executive committee had some concn particular about southern station's workload going up. >> and what you don't see on the calls for service map or really the incident data is the level of activity in southern which is that the calls for service sure they have a fairly large volume and maybe a fairly large volume of incidents but what you don't see are the two major sports venues there that increase the population by 20 to 40,000 any time there's an event. >> so that is a huge increase in population that's a huge increase in service that's demanded of southern station and so the executive team didn't feel like that was a way to that that was going to serve southern station or the community there very well was

expanding their scope so significantly and so when and we'll talk about this probably at the next meeting i'll show how the calls for service would have changed had that had the southern taken all of that look, those calls for service you just see that then southern becomes the most busy station of all the stations and then you add on top of that the to venues and it just would have been too much for one station and so going from from the patrol preferred to the recommended map there was an effort to distribute that workload a little bit more not only from southern but balancing park a little bit more and just trying to make the workload a little bit more equitable across the stations. >> and then finally see the proposed map really was a function of after that

iteration with the semi working group and the captains and everyone began to feel like even the recommended map was a bit much it was it may have balanced workload a bit better but ultimately without when we are so low on staffing and having to rearrange staffing and reshuffle it so much that it would it would not necessarily benefit the department or the districts to feel like they had less on the other side of this analysis and implementation. so these changes benefit the department but don't require resources adjustments and that is what the final map represents. okay so you'll see the final

map there with five major changes and then which we can sit with for a second or move on to next steps. >> pause. i think you should move on to next steps and then we can ask questions as we make presentations not to disturb your flow. >> okay. and actually commissioner benedicto already covered this so we don't even need to cover it. he's very helpful like that. that's it commissioner. >> he thank you very much there presidents and allies are just going to have a question though. >> i know the mayor made an announcement 12 days ago regarding the san francisco hospitality zone task force and and the downtown district. what impact would that play on this map here?

>> so on i'll answer that. so thank you. is there a commissioner? none. none really. the hospital his own right now is two components to that. one part of that zone is assigned to central station and that's the union square part and soma piece of the hospitality zone is actually assigned to southern. they have to communicate in order to coordinate their work and make sure that they're on the same page in terms of you know what what they're doing which is addressing a lot of the street conditions and problem solving it has been proposed that that zone be made a district station that actually came up in some of the community conversations but did not we did not move forward. that is just right now that the department could not absorb a new district station with the staffing challenges that we

have and facility challenges that we have and the like so it won't impact it at all. i mean that task force can be moved if those problems go away. the task force can then be absorbed into the rest of the department or the stations that they're at to maintain the effort because i'm looking at that that zone it's you got central station sutter and then you have tenderloin two and then northern i mean that that's the end i guess different captains involved and then different resources. >> so are you is it just a combined the resource of officers and 2 to 1 unit or is that going to divide it back into different stations? >> yes. bass yes, sir. they still report to the captains so the captain of southern still has the reach of you know, the control of those

officers and what they do in their work. but they're coordinating with the the central station component of the task force. so the work is coordinated and that those officers that is their job to be dedicated to the that those that specific area. so we have to coordinate in order to make it work but it's working right now and it won't it won't impact any of that boundary analysis work that's been done. would it be possible to have a commander in regards to that handle that hospitality zone too as well? >> yeah, there is the commander that is in charge of the the metro division which is commander derek jackson is very involved in the overseeing of the work. and then there's also you know ,another piece of this you know, we have to coordinate with the whole direct command because a lot of that work just flows from the demak areas to the hospitality area. so it all has to be coordinated

and there's a commander over that too, as you know is that commander derek lou? >> and then a final question is how many more officers will be added to their hospitality zone? i have a figure in my ear right now. >> we've already had it, lieutenant. a sergeant and seven officers for the central component the inmates are for the southern component of the hospitality task force. the central component has a lieutenant, i think sergeant and 14 officers i believe. >> and that can be adjusted depending on what is going on like for during the holiday season we increased the deployment in union square during special events like we did on this past weekend. we increased the deployment in the summer with the mosconi event so it can be adjusted depending on what's going on. >> thank you very much. thank you very much there chief. i know you're going to do

excellent job on this. >> thank you. thank you, sir. commissioner clay, thank you, madam president. first of all, excellent job. i mean you took a lot of time and to put this together i'm taking a look at all the things you did and all the factors you used to get to this point. and so what i'm looking at and you said based upon your final proposal, this map, it's not going to require any adjustment in terms of resources although you did lengthen or you widen or enlarge some of these districts. so that's got to be when you look at where it started for the command wanted you have and you come to here and the resources are going to still be equitable but you've enlarged districts so in that in that composition of things how did you come to these? how did the conclusion in terms of how the resource is would be well so this is more of a of a our our districts are currently not i'm not equitably distributed with their their workloads but we are staffed

we're we've set the staffing and settled kind of the dust has settled on where the staffing is for those districts and we change them all the time and the assistant chief and fob chief are constantly reviewing that every every transfer they're looking at where staffing is for every dissertation these adjustments are kind of just pain points mostly that are or just good good sense. so for instance in park station this is labeled change e park station in richmond there are some permanent concrete barriers that make it harder for richmond to respond to that section of the park and so we just shifted it over to park. it's easier for them to respond so we put it just moved the boundary a little similarly

northern oh the change labeled d i believe this is where the facade of a building sits. the address sits in one station and the actual building sits in the other station and so we just change that to have the whole building sit in the one station so things that are minor that don't really require a ton of staffing actually the d change may actually require a little bit of adjustment there but that can happen, you know over time or in a transfer rather than a big hefty analysis that has to happen with every change and every district and all the sort of churn and and turnover and turmoil that would go with those kinds of changes. >> but this this will suffice for now. so as it's set up as we go

forward and hopefully we start getting more officers on line, the chief and staff command staff will readjust and yeah patrol people out to these different districts will need that additional help. >> yes, sir. so it's all set up that way, right? we can change boundaries as we need to. this is this is mandated a minimum ceiling, a floor not a ceiling. >> and so the final question as we look at this here and it's going to have the posting period in this 90 days madam president, will we each week have an agenda item for people to talk and ask about this? you were saying and commissioner benedicto about that is that going to have a calendared spot every every week so someone they can have public comment on this posting as as the weeks go by? it's a good question. i don't think we've worked out the exact mechanics. i would expect that most weeks it would not be agenda as a line item and thus would be eligible for general public comment. since general public comment you're allowed to address for anything not on the agenda if

there's a specific take back question that's anyone wanted director mcguire to come for we the agenda is it or if there was let's say there was a flurry of community interest and interest and elected officials such that like i said i think i want to explicitly calendar at least once sometime in march because i do think some of the groups that wrote and then some of the elected officials want to organize a response at least one to that nine days it will be agenda is i don't think we need to agenda that every week so but but members of the public would be welcome when not agenda is to comment on general comment or to provide written comment or maybe in the posting we should include that and for the general comments section this is available for general comment section until we have an a specific agenda item on for the week. >> yes i plan to agenda is it for the next meeting in march? for the first meeting in march so to either be first meeting or second meeting in march as an actual agenda and gender ized item so that we can discuss it because my understanding is there are a few questions outstanding.

>> additionally this has been posted on our website so the community can comment on our website the commission website with any questions or concerns. i don't believe that we've received any thus far but if we do receive one the commission office will collect them and then notify the commission. okay. >> so they can they can post on the website versus coming to the actual meeting and doing that but that we make that available to them they can they know that i think we may even want to if we could posted to social media our commissions social media to see if there are any additional public comments or chief are you going to be have you done social media outreach on this? >> we did, yeah. >> yes. a while back. yeah. yeah. thank you. thank and mr. benedict obviously making a motion. >> oh, yes. okay. all right. i'll make my motion then we'll go to public comment mr. allen okay.

>> all right. thank you very much. executive director mcguire. i do want to highlight some things that director mcguire said which was that there's been public comment throughout this process. there was not a large amount of public comment i would say, but it was definitely vigorous and it was it was incorporated every stage of this process. so i'm going to make a motion before we go to public comments. also i emailed the written version of this to commission staff so you don't have to try to take down my fast talking. so my motion is that pursuant to section two a .86 of the charter the city and county of san francisco the commission has considered the chief's report and recommends actions as summarized and agreed to and the speed boundary analysis of district stations project reports specifically the proposed map on page 84 of the report and hereby forwards this proposal to the mayor and the board of supervisors to adjust station boundaries.

>> the commission will also post the proposal at the commission's offices outside the commission's regular meeting area the commission section of the city's website and will send a copy to the public library. public comment shall be open for a minimum of 90 days and final action shall be taken no earlier than may 20th 2025. >> okay. one thing i did want to clarify before i went to public comment is that for director mcgowan, the chief i was correct there it is the proposed map on it on page 84 which is the chief and the department's recommendation that we adopt, correct? >> i believe so. one second it's also in the presentation and that very last slide. >> yes. yes. page 84 and it's correct. >> right. and thank you commissioner clay for second the motion. >> thank you. if any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item me line item six please approach the podium.

>> good evening commissioners chief scott paul allen. during this process i had submitted comments urging serious consideration of moving part of the castro from mission to park. for reasons that we don't need to go into. >> indeed that was that particular recommendation was part of was included in three of the recommendations within the report before you including i believe the penultimate one and then in the recommendation and the recommended one that falls off. but my point is not too much to critique that because i don't really feel competent to do so. rather the reasons stated for that and i draw your attention to the last page of the of the full document which is page 89 i guess or 86 where there is a simply a declaration from the consultant that the reason the final recommendation is for the proposed one is before you essentially boils down to resource is that we don't have

enough officers and therefore we don't think we can adjust boundaries. to me as a declaration that is not persuasive passive i think we need a fuller explanation of why that is a case. you have a deficit of x number of officers. they obviously could be shuffled around to just a different district stations along with an adjustment of those district station lines. again, i'm not advocating for that because i don't feel competent to judge that just as i don't feel competent to judge whether it was right to not move part of castro from mission to park. but i think the we're entitled to a better explanation, a more fulsome explanation of the nexus, if you will, between the deficiency in the number of officers on the one hand and the unwillingness or reluctance to change boundaries among district stations.

>> thank you for i thank you commissioners for thank you. my name is chris sharman lower port community benefit district. thank you for acknowledging our letter submitted yesterday and thank you for acknowledging the letter submitted by a number of organizations that i'm proud to be part of working with the status quo is not working for the tenderloin and the tenderloin in adjacent communities such as myself and laura polk. the proposed map as we acknowledged in our letter, does not work for us. while there are some small tweaks that that that make some incremental improvement overall we we found a much better match with the with the with the recommended map in previous iterations we you know to find to find to to build towards equity and improvement it takes work and it takes effort and you know it'll take some redistribution of resources and

to get there we need to work together if i can have the overhead real briefly this this is the this is the heat map and it shows right here we have the intersection of three police districts in this corner of the tenderloin and lower polk northern central and and tenderloin and that's where the highest crime area the highest 911 call areas are the community has to work with three police districts and that's that's a tall order that's both calls the three districts have to respond to but that's three districts that the community has to interact with. larkin streets a border that's problematic. there's alleys that have two police districts you know, just moving it to post street doesn't accomplish our needs. i look forward to interacting with your honorable commission over the next 90 days will come up. we'll advocate we look forward to working with you. we look forward to you. listen to us and thank you so

much for for for taking the time to hear from us and i really do look forward to advocating over the next 90 days. >> good evening commissioners. i'm alice rogers and i am a 30 year resident in southern station. >> i too did send you a letter which wasn't acknowledged but i and other neighbors from our southern district did address you. >> we strongly support your final report. we want to commend your staff for the work that they did. our direct contact was maryam mcgowan and we especially want to appreciate the depth of information that she brought to the public hearings that she conducted. >> we were quite distressed.

>> did i say that i am the president of the south beach rincon mission bay neighborhood association which comprises much of southern district and we were quite distressed by the first map for the reasons that director mcguire laid out. i won't reiterate but we were thankful through the public process which we engaged in and which we the neighborhood association broadcast to our constituency. so they could individually interact with your maps and give their input. we were very pleased to see the maps moved to the final iteration and feel that it they more equitably addressed the workload and our southern station captain martin seems to agree. >> thank you so much for your work on this. >> thank you miss rogers. i didn't want to fail to acknowledge your correspondence

as well as well as the correspondence of bettina cohen as well that was sent to the commission. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. my name is pretty but again i work for children housing clinic. >> i always see three programs central city sro collaborative levels latina and see a program. >> i remember being here ten years ago. in fact 11 years ago fighting for equitable district tenant blue station district. we did not win that battle last year. last time because we had to compromise we were asking until up to larkin. >> we were trying not to have a westfield mall and saw the market but we did get all that . >> and as chris shulman pointed out, i mean i don't know why we are seeing what we are doing right now the calls of service right now. >> but i think this is a ten year map so we have to look for the future how the district

will be for the future and including the present but the future also and we are seeing movement of issues that is in different parts of the district surrounding tunnel and station. and i would highly encourage we are not happy with the last iteration based on calls for service. you have gotten all our concerns. >> so i would highly recommend you reach out to us because we are not happy with what was proposed to you all today and recommended rather we prefer the map that we recommended in our in our letter. that's what we think and we have reached out to several community members. not all community members have access to internet and tell them and calls and coming here so you should definitely do your part of reaching out to people who live in the community rather than just expect them to reach out to you. >> thank you.

good evening, commissioners and chief scott. my name is eric roselle and i'm a long term resident of the tenderloin and director of safe programs at the tenderloin community benefit district. i'm here to express strong support for spd's proposed tenderloin station boundary changes outlined in the past map integration and the patrol preferred map that yes the tenderloin has seen some progress but challenges remain especially late at night and early morning. as clearly indicated in the heat map, the current boundaries and recommendations stretch too far east and south encompassing encompassing areas like westfield mall and soma. this pulls tenderloin officers away from the core of the tenderloin where they're needed most to address serious crimes like shootings, assault robberies and our party's persistent open air drug market. shifting the boundaries to north to market street to north to sutter street and west and

east boundaries between mason and vance will allow officers to focus their resources where crimes are occurring most. the tenderloin furthermore the current northern boundary at geary street is insufficient. illicit activity has simply shifted north to sutter street creating dangerous pockets of lawlessness in the alleys between larkin and van ness. the proposed extension to venice has shown in the patrol preferred map and final proposed map is crucial and eliminates the confusing and ineffective larkin street border which currently splits blocks and alleys between precincts and hindering effective policing and response times. this change will finally allow for coordinated policing efforts and streamline responses and the critical areas. these boundaries adjustments are not just lines on a map. remember this please. they're about equitable and

effective policing. they're about allowing the tenderloin to truly serve santana. >> thank you. >> faster than you think. yeah. >> good evening. my name is greg johnson and i'm with csr c central for city sro collaborative. i also know chief scott there. good evening. i'd like to echo the comments by petipa taki which csr see we have to look towards the future . things are changing. previous provisions that i'm sure may possibly may not have been taken into account of what services the city wants to dump in our area mental health etc. . all of these things have to be considered. i mean that's what a committee at what you're implying is all about equitability. >> we can't just nilly do what

we're getting ready to do. we're talking about ten years here. that's a long time. thank you. >> thank you to those that made public comment, something i wanted to say is that i think every single commissioner here takes very seriously this responsibility and and will want to hear from as much of the community in this 90 days as as we can. for anyone who knows me or worked with me on when we did our projects ops policy i had a policy and a commitment president weiss knows this that i said yes to every community meeting that was taken whether it was zoom or in person a group of 50 or 3 people at a community center and i will make that commitment on this too. i know there are populations that we're not reaching here. if anyone here or anyone who

considers this would like to and as president likes to point out, the two minutes goes fast and the concerns of your community are way too big to be limited to two minutes and so if any of your organizations if any member of your organizations, additional members of the community want to speak to me, i will commit that i will say yes and we'll find the time to hear your concerns and i will be the department to sending someone to come along to see dr. mcbride raise your hand. she may live to regret that but we will come to those meetings. we will hear you out. i can't promise. in fact, the one thing i can promise is that not everyone's going to be happy the end of this we passed a policy last week where president last rightly asked judge clay for that for the adage that, you know, a good compromise is when everyone's disappointed about the same amounts but i promise you will be heard and your concerns will be taken seriously and if changes need to be made they'll be made and if and we will look very closely at that. so please. my email address is on the commission website and i individual commission email

address i will i will say yes to any meeting so that is true. >> thank you also to i as you see when you send letters to the commission staff they're excellent. they make sure that we get them and they catalog them and keep them in that place so you can also send it to them as well if there are additional questions you have clarity you want we have the department, we have the consultants and we will ask the questions that you want answered or want answers to so feel free to just send them in as the commissioner benedict of state stated, this is the first of a few that we will have any hands sergeant all right on the motion commissioner clay how do you vote? yes, commissioner clay is yes. commissioner benedicto yes. mr. benedict to us. yes. commissioner young. yes. yes. mr. jones. yes, commissioner. yea yes commissioner. yes. yes. in prison elias present license ? yes. you have five yeses and i see one one housekeeping item we are taking off line item ten

closed session tonight so therefore line item eight nine and 11 are also taken off line and seven discussion and possible action to approve department general order 1.06 duties of commissioned officers for the department to use a meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law discussion and possible action. chief okay thank you. >> so did you a 1.06 is duties of commission officers is that this was one that i believe commissioner president last that you sent back for reworking so we did that definitely collaborative effort with all of our smitty's on this and depay's input on this. so we believe we have a pretty concise thegrio it's not all inclusive. let me just start there. it's not all inclusive for

everything that a commission officer has to do with the general guideline of what we expect of our our commission officer so if there's any questions i'd be more than happy to answer. >> dr. henderson did you have anything to add? >> nope. and thank you. i think we we i was told we didn't have any comment. the work was collaborative and so because of that we have no comment and we agree with the direction that the dda was coming in. >> so that was that's what i meant by no one. thank you. oh well i will note it is an improvement so thank you for taking the suggestions and feedback from various stakeholders and other people that came late to the game so i appreciate that. >> i know it's often difficult to have the johnny come lately come and throw up prized work so i appreciate that. >> i think it's yeah it's improved. >> i'll note this dojo was last updated on august 24th of 1994 so in my keep right on time and my continued quest to eradicate alter egos that are from the 90s i'm glad to see this one be

i still think there's too many i i'm going to ask you a for a count one of these days but i know we've gotten that down but there's still too many that date back to the 90s i gave priority to the 90s i was on the list of drugs to work i agree. >> yeah but there were too many there's too many but yeah so i will thinking president elias and the chief for this work i will move to approve department general order 1.06 for the use in meeting conferring with fact that bargaining units consistent with our labor relations resolution 23 dash 30 i'll second any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item seven please approach the podium. >> there is no public comment on the motion. commissioner clay how do you vote? yes commissioner clay yes. yes. commissioner benedicto yes. >> commissioner benedict it was yes commission yes. yes. mr. janusz is yes commissioner you yes. commissioner years. yes. and prison lice as nice as yes you have five yeses line item

12 adjournment yes. >> oh four minutes over i thought over four minutes over seven. >> you know madam president

>> welcome everyone. thank you so much for joining me today. the round table discussion. i actually have background in youth work. worked in china town before so having you four from youth commission join today is very interesting to hear your thoughts and concerns and what you are talking about

from the youth commission and your generation your thoughts. let's get into it. start with introductions. your name. grade rkts school. and what lead you to become into the youth commission? could start with emily. >> so, my name is emily, she her pronouns. (inaudible) in san francisco. and i joined the youth commission because growing up i relied on public transportation and a lot of community organizations such as (inaudible) and through these organizations they introduced me to a lot of community organizing movements happening and that is when i learned of the youth commission because my friend was also on it at the time and i was interested because i saw a benefited from a lot of public service in san francisco and wanted to insure all youth in san francisco could have opportunities to benefit from these services as well and these services would be available to everyone. that's when i applied

to the youth commission and i joined and that's where i got to learn so much about like how local government works and how i could contribute my voice to make better opportunities for all youth in san francisco. >> nice. how long have you been on the youth commission? >> i joined in 20 21 and this is my second term. >> normally the youth commission, what's the age range? >> youth ages 12-23. >> wow! you can be out of high school and on the commission? >> yeah. we have college students and we used to have middle school students on the youth commission too but now they are a freshman in high school. >> nice. awesome. >> (inaudible) >> ewen a senior at san francisco high school. i joined the youth commission. i had beener interested in san francisco politics freshman in high school and volunteered on local political campaign and district attorney election and got into that process,

and from there did more campaigning and got into youth advocacy and activism in the city. and from there i sort have (inaudible) city hall on certain issues and wanted to be on the flip side and see what i could do in city hall for young people and a voice for young people and are the youth commission was the perfect opportunity for that so why i decided to apply. thankfully i was appointed. >> great. how many years have you been on? >> second term as well so beginning september 2021. >> every turm is one year? >> yeah, because people age out so quickly and people go away for college so we try to make it like a school year roughly. >> okay. nice. thank you. >> hi. i'm hayden. i'm a junior this year at (inaudible) my first term on the

commission but what drew me to it is like emily i have always been super fascinated by public transportation. since i was two years old i had a baby sitter and she couldn't get a driver license so would take the bus everywhere and it was fascinating to see all the people and places i could go around the city and just as i got older i would explore more and more but realized that you know, like, it is not as simple as buses driving around and i can be involved in getting more buses out there, having more places to go to and like i think especially when the pandemic happened and all government meetings moved on line it was a lot more accessible for me so i was able to pgo and make public comment and see had all the presentations, see all the people on commissions and stuff and also had several friends who had been on the youth commission in the past so i

just saw it as a great opportunity for me to advocate for young people, because i feel we have a lot of needs and sometimes it isn't always represented. >> thank you. >> hi, i'm yoselin. a senior at urban school of san francisco. this is my first term in the youth commission. similar to everyone else said, i have been interested in politics and public policy and how legislation is made. i are worked for someone who worked with supervisor ronan, he really-i was fascinated with what he gets to do in his job and the issues he gets to work on and people he gets to speak. this is a great opportunity to test what you are interested in and so i applied and got in and very happy. >> how many total in the youth

commission? one per district? >> yes, one per district and 5 from the mayor. >> there is 11 supervisor ones and 6 from mayor office, 5 of it which are specifically for minority community representation and one is appointee so 17 total. >> 17. great. >> (inaudible) one of the bigger commissions in the city, but because youth is everyone at some point in life, every community has youth, it is important to have enough seats to have a voice for communities and their different needs on the youth commission. >> for sure. let's get into the nitty-gritty of it. i really interested to hear some of the concerns that either the youth commission is talking about now or even you yourselves personally what concerns are you trying to like advocate for and stuff like that? who would like to start? >> i guess i can start. before joining the youth

commission i'm involved in housing and mass incarceration crimial justice system. i knew these were topics i wanted to discuss and bring up so i'm also on individual committees so two main topics is youth incarceration and substance abuse and gun violence and-yeah. those are the main issues we are talking about. >> for youth incarceration, what are some of the topics? is it more about the resources putting or not putting into it or is it- >> yeah. one main thing now is talking about juvenile justice center. forget the street. and, i think woodside and por tolla. >> it was supposed to be closed last year and has not because there is a lot of uncertainty about what is supposed to happen. i recently spoke to chief miller the probation officer at the center, so discussing ways we can

support them to get that closed and have more equitable resources for the youth who are currently inside still and relying on community members and families and friends instead of like abusive and harmful police officers and the justice system. >> is sthr racial disparities in the youth incarceration? >> yeah. what i heard from the meeting there is currently like 14 youth inside. they range in age but it is all like people of color and people from low income families who are usually the ones more involved in the crimial justice system. >> i read somewhere that like perhaps there could be more money put into the communities to help low income or kids being not targeted but don't have as much opportunities and

end up in those places. >> yeah. >> versus putting money in- >> i think it is better to fund organizations and programs. i think emily you mentioned you are in break through, i'm in the smart program help afford education and help get to college and teach them and offer activities so they have more resources and opportunities for their future. just like putting more money into programs activities and things that like shift youth experiences to a more positive one. >> any other concern? >> i can add on. i think you all said investing in youth early is really important rather then focus on punishment. i think that goes unsaid. break through helped

so much in the education. if not for breakthrough and summer program jz tutorer and mentorship they offered which my parents couldn't offer me i don't know where i would be. i think community organizations like break through and after school programs funded by the city are so important supporting youth early and insure they dont go down the wrong pact. coming from under resourced neighborhoods and first generation it was very hard to carve my own path so finding mentorship in organizations like this is important and crucial to my personal development. >> i say the science behind it too backs up the testimony. violence-i do a lot of work in gun violence prevention and programs are often more successful then police are in preventing gun violence in our city. obviously both are a part of the equation,

but i think that we have seen a lot of investment. we have seen them be quise successful and i know i am and think everyone on the commission is interested in looking how to support those programs and have them work specifically with youth as well and get young people into the program early before they have a opportunity to be put into these situations that cause violence to occur. >> yeah. >> i just say also like the education system plays a big part because it is great we have a lot of community organizations, but sometimes it can't always be the most accessible so one thing we are working on is expanding outreach and access so people know about these problems and also within our education system i was looking at data in regards to suspensions and expelgz and similar to juvenile justice center it is

overwhelmingly student of color and lower income students effected by that as well as students who are often miss school and there is a lot of reasons for that. some relate to transportation and such. it is just been exacerbated by have distance learning. not everybody had the same access to technology and such to stay connected and engaged in their education during that time. >> i'll add on, i feel when people think about issues like youth not attending school or not doing homework or committing these petty crimes, there is often a moralization and everyone is like they are just bad people. they have the wrong intentions, they are messing up the city, but i think it is just generally very important to investigate the root causes. a lot of these kids come from under resourced naerbd s and have-for a lot of people it is means of survival so so important to look beyond

the surface and no there is no need to moralize these situations. these kids don't have other solutions so it is important to look at the root cause and see how to address prevention rather then punishment and suspension and removal from school. >> it is funny talking about resources and schools. i'm often surprised how many good community organizations are like i don't know how to reach young people and i'm like have you been going to schools, the place where young people all have to pgo during the day? i think i also feel schools dont realize that they have the opportunity to provide resources to young people. they are allowed to connect with outside resources and bring them in and use them as well. that is something i'm hoping to encourage on the youth commission as well. >> right. usually it is outside -i dont want to say non profit but the-schools themselves are

[multiple speakers] >> teachers have become social workers for young people. >> which is why prop g is such a great proposition. i think it is $60 million. increases over time but $60 million goes to public schools for activities, classes, nurses, therapist to support students, which is great. which is what we need. >> yeah. just add on to that or the question, because i know high schools have counselors and probably i don't know if mental health specialists, but do middle schools and elementary schools in the city have that? >> i think it depends on the institution. i am very fortunate to go to private middle school and high school. i did go to public elementary school and there is a huge gap in education and resources available in public and private. i can't speak to that now.

>> it has been a huge burden. recently both our school nurse and our school wellness coordinator left and there was an iligez to the fact it was connected to the pay roll issues occurring with sfusd and not just that but they are already paid much less then other public school districts private school districts, like for nurses if they were to work somewhere else so it is really hard to attract people to work in these schools and we don't budget enough positions in the first place. now we have 7 school counselors for like a body of 3,000 kids and you can think of the kids that have questions about college and classes to take to graduate. it is just not enough resources in the schools. i went to sfusd middle school and we had one counselor for each grade level, but it just

really isn't enough and a lot of schools-it kind of-there is pto or lowel-able to fund a second librarian or nurse the full week opposed to 2 and a half days so if you get injured monday, you got a nurse, but tuesday you are out of luck. that's something happening in the schools and i just feel that is crazy because they don't have a affluent enough pta to fund the nurse. that should be basic. we shouldn't have to ask for donations to fund a school nurse. >> that ties into the mental health issues people are facing. covid was detrimental to everyone but especially young people who spnt hours a day online and away from mental health support in a really difficult time and i think

people are beginning to realize now how important those services are. i think there is work to do but advocase hads been relatively successful in san francisco getting more support for mental health but there is a huge gap we are now catching up with. it was never priority before the pandemic and beginning to become one now but there are so many young people struggling and waiting for support and frankly often falling through the cracks of the system that is supposed to help them. >> yeah. speaking from an older person, no mental helt what so ever in anything growing up so to talk in the progress is like huge, but of course it isn't enough still. >> there is also stigma depending on your race and religion whether mental health is a real thing. >> and also what your mental health condition is

too. >> right. >> i think mental health issues always existed but the pandemic brought to light all the really bad things happening. not exacerbated i fe noone was talking about mental health before the pandemic and i think often times like you said, a lot of the services are not offered in school so i think in general there is a wide disconnect from students and services, whether that is service in schools or community organizations. all these services exist but students don't know how to access them so there needs to be a better way to connect students to everything that can support them. >> another concern possibly-you brought up gun violence, is that another concern you all have? >> just i think just yesterday the new york times posted a story about how it is officially over-taken any other cause for deaths for young people in the united states .

>> 19 percent. >> it used to be car deaths and now number one is gun violence. >> gun violence. also the racial disparities there are incredible too. and concerning. i do a lot of work on gun violence prevention. of course there is need for federal action. we are not go toog solve the gun violence crisis until we see senate and house pass safety legislation that prevents gun getting in the hands of dangerous people but there are actions on the local and state level. eve enin california even in liberal san francisco that can help save lives, particularly around things like safe storage of guns. i wrote a resolution on the commission urging all san francisco schools to send home safe storage information and just recently a stay law passed that require schools to send home safe storage information for firearms.

violence intervention programs are incredibly important to help end this crisis: building the community relations. and also mental health is a big part. access to a gun increases-i dont know what the statistic is off the top of my head, but gun (inaudible) in killing the person then any other form of suicide and it is so irreversible. that access to guns can exacerbate the issues too and someone who might be struggling today and tomorrow but in two years from now would be in a much better place with support and medication they need there is a irreversebal thing they can do with a gun then they can in other ways of hurting themselves. >> is it the norm to have drills at school? >> yeah. it is scary having to like go through that process. >> the data

actually-it is unclear but also pretty clear that having these drills doesn't actually save lives. we now in the united states have enough data points of school shootings in schools that have lock down drills and that don't have lock down drills that frankly doesn't make much a difference. there are other policies and things we could work on that are less traumatizing to kids as well that would be better use of time and resources then lock down trills. not advocating against them, but i think that isn't where our focus should necessarily be. >> haven't done it this year. it is interesting because i just think our school campus we have so many kids and people wander on and off. i are try not to think about it, but it is a thought in my head, anybody can wander on

to here. >> i think it is crazy. ever since sandy hook i literally started doing lock down drills in third grade before i even started sex ed. i think growing up and having to do that every year was really traumatizing. this could happen to me any day so it is scary and seeing gun violence get worse as i grow up not even an adult it is terrifying. >> too many times i walked out of school and checked my phone and see a story of kids like me in a classroom like me all day being shot and killed in the classroom. it is astonish to walk of the last class of the day and check the news and see that whether it is in michigan and texas and here in california, relatively random it was that school. it very much could have been your school. that is something we can't-there is a

feeling of helplessness around that too i think. >> there was the story about the kid campaigning for (inaudible) he got shot. >> 13 year old i believe. >> campaigning for warnack. i have been the kid in freshman year volunteering on a local political campaign and lots of people dont like campaigns. that is reasonable, i get it. having a gun in the situation made that 10 times worse. >> right. yeah. >> i was like not knocking on doors just like walking up and hanging door fliers this election and in the back of my head, i thought about what if somebody like thinks i'm stealing a package or break into their house? >> (inaudible) >> especially i feel in some more afffluent neighborhoods i see next door, they are like

this teenager is walking up to my door and must be up to no good. it was a thought in my head. i was like dang, maybe it isn't a gun, maybe it is a dog or they have something on me. >> this is not-i think people think we are in san francisco, we don't have the issue as much. especially in poor communities and communities of color, this is a consistent issue that we are still facing and a lot has to do with the fact san francisco policies don't cover parts of the state and country as well. san francisco lead the way with the ghost gun ban. ghost guns are guns you can buy online and put together yourself that don't require a serial number which gets rid of any system of keeping track of guns we have in the country, and we were the first city to actually make that illegal and in california fallowed through with that as well. selling of that was illegal. it is things like

that, all these ways gun manufacturers and gun industry is going around the policies that we put in place that is continuing the issue. especially with the gun violence we see on the e streets every day. there are school shootings acrauz the country and many more kids shot walking home because they live in a community of color that had this consistent issue. it is an astonishing thing and it uniquely american issue as well. >> i guess as the youth commission, what actually do you feel you could bring up or advice-because obviously there are many topics that have a lot of issues, but the gun violence just hits home i everyone, especially for me and everything. as a youth commission, how do you go about

that? >> well, i don't know much about the ghost gun ban but our job is advice the mayor and board of supervisors on issues related to youth. we can't solve the issue of gun violence in a night, two nights but i think what we can do is urge local policy makers to take action and i think by the local government taking action we can inspire the state government, inspire the federal government and that is how change works so i think everything we can do to inspire our local elected officials to take action on things like the ghost gun ban can inspire more counties and states and just the world in general. >> we can bring up any topic. any issue to the board of superrisers and the mayor and whether they take our recommendation or not, we can still push them and urge them to do something about it, so they can't ignore us, they have to realize this is what the youth are writing about and what they like us to do, we have to do something.

>> it is fun because the youth commission in san francisco and relatively unique to san francisco as well. it is part of our city charter so they legally can't ignore us. they don't have to take our recommendations [multiple speakers] they have to read the resolutions and talk about the issues and think most people in san francisco are open to work wg the youth commission. there is power behind that and that is where a lot of advocacy work we do gets its power. >> also, there is many board of supervisors care about us and care about the work that we are bringing up, so it isn't like they are just not reading our-or caring. they actually do care about the issues and read them and consider them. >> it is really unique, because a lot of supervisors just like reach out to us and are like hey, what do you feel about bike parking and they care

about what you say. >> they offer resources or do you want to speak to this person or let me introduce you to this organization. they really do want to help us continue our work and really expand what we know. >> the mayor recognizes me places now. that is how you know you are making a im pact, that is that kid. her office is very open to work wg the youth commission as well and i appreciate-i don't think i can think of a supervisor or mayor office that isn't open to us and listening to our concerns. >> it isn't like they just want to take our feedback for their benefit, they want to help you grow as a person. multiple offices offered me internships and different opportunities to be in this ad or help write this legislation or be in the video and that is unique because they want to see you grow as a person and follow all

your dreams. literally the senator was asking what college i wanted to go to and if they could help in any way so very sweet. >> sometimes i look at the youth commission and like, these people are going to be on the board of supervisors in 20 years. this is good we are learning now and doing this now, because we are the next generation of leaders of the city. i really do believe that. of the country. >> any other concerns? >> i think big issue we are also thinking about is young people and it is kind of upon us in some ways but climate change. there is talk recently about the great highway and we will have to close a portion of it in 2025 because it is literally crumbleing into the ocean. this is real and here now. there is a lot of the city is very ambitious when it comes to setting vision and policies. we have

vision zero that in two years i think at this point we want to eliminate all traffic fatalities of people walking across the street, get hit by a car and essentially made no progress since it started. we want 20percent of trips in the city people making them by bicycle and we are just not making any progress on all these goals we set out in terms of climate change so it can be frustrating but that motivates me. we set what our values are and how we make sure our policies and decisions we make day to day, make sure those align with what we are actually saying that we value. >> and that's replicated across so many issues of san francisco. we love to be this progressive icon but sometimes when you get down to the nitty-gritty we are not making the progress on issues we need. we are not setting the transformative policies that need to be done.

transit is a great example with vision zero. >> i agree. i think the city can be very performative and also like-it is like they say they want one thing but they completely do something else and that just gets by-pass and don't think that is okay. also, i think specifically with climate change and transportation, there are so many neighborhood disparities people dont talk about like under resourced communities experience the climate change a lot worse then other communities and growing up in the bayview and excelsior and living near freeways and experiencing pollution and not able to bike in my neighborhood in fear of a car crash because of the narrow streets t is really horrible. we can't fix the issue in the weltier communities how do we help the under served communities that experience the brunt of it? i also think people are so resistant to change.

especially with the slow streets program which we have been looking into as a committee on the youth commission. the housing recreation and transit committee. we (inaudible) benefited youth in the city specifically overall, but still the mayor and other elected officials are resistant to it and afraid of change because we are such a car dominated city and think it is important to be optimistic about the future and be realistic but also like slow streets are helpful. this can actually get to where we want to go in terms of the climate goals and people need to consider that. >> it is kind of like in a sense feel a chicken and egg problem because before i used to be somebody that is mad like i don't understand why are people stuck in their cars but i feel a lot of issue, that is the system. we set up a system that if it will take me a hour to take the bus across town or i will be all most hit by a car biking down a 40 mile per hour road, the obvious

choice is to drive. that is the system we set up so it is hard to convince people that we know this is system and understand why you drive. we are not saying you are a bad person because you drive because there i think there are people out there who are like you are a horrible person because you drive a car and you are killing all the turtles and the children. that's the system we have, so we need to show people that there is a better way and we can get there and it will take a lot of time and there will be inconvenience but in the long run, if we sit and never change it isn't going to work. there has to be a little bit of inconvenience change, people will feel uncomfortable but if we stay stagnant it isn't going to work. >> i think that's something that the youth commission has been pretty big on making people uncomfortable. elected officials

[multiple speakers] i think specifically with free muni for all youth which the youth commission helped create. of course the sfmta was super uncomfortable and like how will we pay for transit for all youth. youth cant afford fares or drive how do you spect them to pay to get to school and their job and since we proposed it we have seen so many positive im pacts. youth and hop and ride for free. they have access to so many opportunities and i think that is so important. making people uncomfurtable and showing change is good and being resisant to change is unhethy. it makes us go in the wrong direction so making people uncomfortable and doing our job to hold them accountable creates positive im pact for the youth in the city. >> i think we make each other uncomfortable too. >> you mean ear each other? >> i remember-we do a retreat before we begin every

year to see where people's priorities are and meet each other and we had intentional uncomfortable conversations recognizing the privilege people hold, recognizing the backgrounds people have and how that impact s how they view the world as well. and think that is important and often missing from the conversations we have in the city. i often see two different groups about housing is the ultimate issue. people on one side saying we have issues of not approving and building more housing and people on the other side saying i'm concerned my neighborhood will get gent riifyed and lack of dialogue and be uncomfortable stops the progress. we have so many unnecessary divides in the city especially in politics are the reason the issues are

not being addressed. people in san francisco agree on the solution. we want to see less homelessness, less crime on the street, we want to see more people getting the services they need and more people getting stable housing, but because we are not willing to sit down with each other and made the strong divisions and so resistant to changing and changing our opinion as well i think that is a reason we are seeing so many san franciscans especially within the last couple elections have expressed this we keep voting on the issues. every politician promises to solve the problem in their own way but it is never getting solved. >> we also see people moving out of san francisco because we can't fix the problems. and those cities are being also like having more housing problems as well. >> to add on, i think from not even two years i have been involved in san francisco

politics i see so many patterns. the same prop every year and named a different prop. there is no change. that is why it is important to sit together and have conversation like this and i think that is why being involved in politics as youth has been such an enlighting experience. i it is uncomfortable but i think discomfort brings positive changeism i find arguing with other youth commissionsers. i realize blind sfauts and where i can im prove by listening to other people and think why youth involvement in politics is important because you are exposed to different perspective and your own perspective and it-you are like why do i think like that and have this opinion? that is a way i have grown on the youth commission, being involved in the really intense discourse in san francisco and try to find myo perspective and being

introspective with myself and other people. >> people are often ask me why are more young people not involved in san francisco politics ? there are a lot of people doing activism and organizing, young people in san francisco, but because when we have these conversations we try to put people into these groups like moderate and progressive and that isn't how issues work and that is such a toxic environment particularly fl young person who is also still trying to learn as well. i think i felt that on the youth commission. not between ourselves but outside the youth committee being put into a box and i am like i dont know where i lie. a big part of the youth commission is learning about the issues. i don't come on the youth commission with a opinion on every issue. i had to do research and talk to people and hear

different opinions in order to determine how i felt about something. we often don't give people the space to do that. >> i think in san francisco politics there is a need to put labels on people and especially i see with the whole board of ed stuff with the low admission policy, i remember i was in a internship and they reallyb expected me to have opinions right away about how i felt about issues. i'm a ayouth and learning how to have my own perspect and engage. i think with the low admission there is a thing like if you believe we should do lottery emission then you are progressive but if not you are moderate. i think the labeling is bad because confining people in a box makes you question-that's not healthy discourse. you are labeling them. that is toxic. >> and there are only two options. we can do-

>> politics isn't multiple choice. >> i think the low admission system is problematic but doesn't mean i want to get rid of it entirely. there is middle ground and im provements that could be made and we dont allow for that. >> do you guys feel as youth especially with climate change i guess, but is a lot of pressure as youth to-not that you solve it but it is your problem? do you feel more pressure? >> of course. i feel there is a problem with putting all the pressure on people instead of company who are the most responsible for toxic air emissions and things like that. telling us to stop using plastic straws but the big companies use plastic bags and plastic containers. there is a definitely pressure on youth to fix the problem because the older people are like we will

not by in the world much longer, so why do we have to fix anything? >> crazy how connected every issue is. i was in richmond the ort day which is very under served community and they center the big chevron refinely and smoke in the air and with the free way is by. i think everything is so connected and we need to do so much. when we talk earlier about people getting to school, transportation is a big part and free muni. everything is interconnected. it is crazy. it is like hard sometimes to-i know this is a issue we need to do something about it but it is hard to really-you do need to figure out the root cause of everything and-but i think what yoselin said is true. it is hard to like when there is a drought and they tell

me shave a minute off my shower, i'm like okay, but there are all these people growing live stock and agriculture using millions tons more water. in some ways i understand there is a personal aspect to it, but we need more big policy changes. i can't solve this alone and think that is something the commission shows is really like-i didn't come into this work as a part of any big groups or organizations, i was just kind of like doing my own thing and then like kind of like when the pandemic happened there was kind of like this like coalition of people came together to like save muni service and that is when i thought we were getting results and i'm like, this has to be something we all like come together and work on. i think young people actually like realize that and that's one of the great things is we see this

is like a horrible thing, but in some ways unifys us. we all have to deal with this problem so we need to work with each other and move past any labeling of i don't like this person because they are a moderate and i'm a progressive. it is kind of uniting in a weird way. >> to add to hayden's point, that is why individualism is a big problem in the capital ist society because everyone is like you can do this by yourself and be successful and solve the world problem but since i joined the youth commission i have been introduced to people power. we are so much more power when we are collective and work together and think about the system rather then our own self-and the youth system taught me to think beyond myself and the world in general. that is something so unique i never found in any other institution. that is why people should teach kids in school. they should

teach them to graduate, make as much money as possible, do whatever you want, buy the biggest house, a mansion, make a family. they should teach kids to feel responsible for the world and im pact they make on the world and that is what the youth commission taught me and it has been the most meaningful life lessen i learned. >> it is funny how often an adult will come up to me or in the youth commission in general and say i'm so glad you are the future. you will solve our problems. you will be part of the solution. these people work in city government too. your job is to solve the issues. i'm part of the solution too, but you can't just give that to our generation. that is expectation we feel the im pact of climate change so therefore we need to solve it. we can't solve gun violence until young people demand it from the state legislators. you need to be part of the solution too. we need to bridge the gap

between youth and adults as well. a big thing i believe in is coalition building across divides. there are things that yoselin and i don't don't agree on and with vote against each other. at the same time we need to work hand in hand to solve the issues we do. and like hayden was saying, there is a thing i dont want to work with this person because we disagree on this issue. >> you need that. >> you can disagree on the issue and also agree on this issue and need to work together to get it done. >> i think that is another thing with teaching youth these things in schools. these are really important life skills. leadership is important life skill. collaboration across divides is important life skill and taught me so much as a person being able to debate with all these different people. me and you argue a lot, but- >> we are great friends by the way. >> we are really great

friends but have been able to do meaningful things together and that is something we should include in the education system challenging youth to think beyond their own perspective and work with people they disagree with and i think leadership opportunities like that should be provided all across the city so we can cultivate the next generation of leaders that will change the world. >> there is this term that being used a lot by the younger generation. it is funny for sure, and but i want to ask what does okay boomer, that term, what does that mean? what is the meaning? obviously i don't know if you can explain where it came from, but what does it mean and really mean i guess, if there is a real meaning to it. anybody want to explain what okay boomer is? >> kind of a millennial thing i think. >> i don't know. i'm somebody who is on twitter and see it a lot there. it is like- >> any social media

platform you see it. >> it is something that we'll say in response to-sometimes there is a lot of we do face people or adults who they might straight up disagree with us, but they might be people who they say they agree and say i really want to help you and do the opposite. they don't really put their money where their mouth is so to speak, so it is like calling them out like okay--i think it is kind of like seeing sometimes people say look at you, you guys are all entitled or the lazy generation or whatever and they see us as being rude to them by saying okay boomer, but the realty is, it is kind-they dont value us. i don't get respect from you so why am i going to go and support whatever you want or agree with whatever you

say? i feel like-there is this weird twisted power structure. they always tell you respect your elders but you don't respect me, so-- >> there is a huge gap between adults and youth now a days. they like don't like care about our ideas or think you are still too young. we had more life experiences. we have been in school longer and seen more so you don't understand and can't speak about this. that might be maybe true but also our opinions matter and we have been through things and seen things and you should like care about our opinions as well. okay, boomer. >> interesting, it is a funny neme but speaks to the issue of how much space our different generations taking up in the conversation and gen z is willing to demand space then others and political

movements. >> gen-z is-late 90 to early 2010? >> yeah are. i think everyone on the youth commission now is gen z. >> gen z has stereo type of, never experienced no internet. >> addicted to technology. very loud. >> yeah. they also say a social justice warrior. >> yeah. [laughter] >> some of the stereo types. >> the best thing gen z when needed we come together and unit and fight for what we need and want. >> just fed up. i think there is a push within our generation to be like guys, this is so dumb. adults arguing over the issues, 40, 50 years and so over it

and need to move on and solve the issues instead of talk about them and think that is true on the local state and national level and globally. >> i was just going to say, i feel like the term okay boomer is a justification for the massive divides that exist between our generations and we have seen that because there are so many technology advancements happening so it is created wide divides between us and the generation before us but i don't think using the term is a okay to justify that. we don't have to work with these people. we do have to work with these people to achieve meaningful change. these people make the decisions that effect our every day lives and if they don't have perspective how we are im pacted no change will get made and i think that is quhie why the youth commission is so important because the mayor district supervisors, they make decisions on everything that effect our lives so why it is important to have a voice in city hall because they

need to work for us to create better outcomes for all youth in san francisco. >> i think it is important to recognize there is a lot we have to learn as well. i think part of okay boomer can be dismissive of generational knowledge that we need to get as well. i think it is possible to both demand change from a generation and learn lessens from them at the same time. >> right. >> has anyone said it? >> i never used it. >> we use it as a joke. >> we use it against each other. i don't think i have been told a person okay boomer. >> i thought it in my head. i feel a lot of times there is a like thing where like it is like a form of like gas lighting. we have a personal experience and like that's my experience and i'll share that with people and the first thing they tell me is stats dont support that. my experience doesn't support that. that shouldn't have happened and try to dismiss me. my personal

experience can't possibly be valid because they have done research that may or may not be valid. maybe their research didn't include youth so there is no way the research included my perspective. they will invalidate me. i don't say to them. i don't want to be super rude but i'm like uh-huh, uh-huh. sure. that is what you think. >> i think also for like career expectations one thing i love about the youth and younger people is that we dont let companies--how do i say this (inaudible) we have more salary expectations. that is sometimes companies give you the low ball and people are like, no, we want transparns and want to get paid what we need to get paid because minimum wage living and you can't afford to live in a city with hundred thousand dollars you need to live well,

so i think that for careers it is also which career will give us the most money to survive in this world. which is tech comes in and stem. >> interesting too, there is-very tabu to share your salary but becoming encouraged. i would feel very comfortable-i don't make a salary but post college i think it is important especially as a white male to share the information with others to be aware of disparities and rectify them as well. that might be a generational thing too. i feel it was taboo to talk about your economic situation. we complain a lot about it. we also grow up in a time of incredible inflation. literally everything is so expensive and my parents are like how does it cost $5 for a cup of coffee? i'm

like let me tell you about books in college. >> everything is expensive. >> it is weird, i work for the city in a job outside of this and like, i don't know, i just like think it is like cool because it just list the salary when you apply i looked at other jobs and like wait that isn't the standard they don't tell you how much you get paid? somebody was telling me about buying a car and the weirdest thing in our society we are like go to the car dealership and it isn't the price, it is quhoo is the best negotiator. it is a weird thing. i just want simple. i want to walk in and know how much i pay. >> i think i feel aware of the value of my work. especially doing this work as well which is demanding and hard and unpaid because of just how the city is set up. i love it. knowing the value of the skills you have and being

willing to say that's not a high enough salary for me. i need to live off--especially if you have a degree. that's just not what i'm worth and think people in gen z are willing to be aware how the system is taking advantage of people and like low balling them basically and much more willing to stand up to that and because i think there is also this personal dynamic where it is like if i was talking to a employer i would be much more willing to say i know you are not low balling me intentionally. like what you said. [laughter] but the system is. >> to add on r i love the youth commission. i love the work we do and it is a really fulfilling job and i would love to find a job like this some time after i graduate college. >> i see myself being a staff

member. >> it is also a privilege to be able to know what you want to do and to be able to pursue that because if i wanted to do writing or something because i reading and writing, i probably would want be able to do that because i'm first generation, parents are immigrants and don't make that much money and don't have the line of generational wealth t. is a privilege to do your job and what you love and public service is pretty well pay-it is privilege and think being able to considethat and having privilege to do something like this and having the time right now i'm really grateful for that but not everyone can do that because they don't have time and have to consider salary more then we do. now we are just checking on-is this going to make me enough so i can go shopping but these are really important jobs people rely on their lives for. >> we talked about-is there a stigma about youth in

politics and- >> for sure. >> do you feel it or do you feel it at all? >> i feel there is little like-i dont know if micro aggression is the right term. i got a permit to use the bike room from city hall and i filled out the form and the lady was looking at me and was like, you work here? i'm like yeah, i don't have a city e-mail address but can i write my employee id number. she is like, you have those, that is cute. she wouldn't talk to an adult like that. she wouldn't say you have employee id that is cute. i was like wow, in that moment. i don't want to tell too many stories. >> sometimes they don't take you seriously because you are a young person. >> i remember walking into supervisors office, we were inviting-legislative aids and a couple times they are like, hello. they are like, why are you here? i'm like

this is a public office so everyone can walk into and second of all, we are commissioners. that is the reason we are here. >> i have been called cute so many timeatize is unbelievable. i'm like man, i'm just trying to do my job. i remember there was a interesting debate i had with this guy. we were doing a trash cleanup and it was me and this other dude talking about this book we read about youth involvement in politics. i said i don't think youth should be involved in government because they will be sad and disallusioned how much the government can't do. i'm like-i tried my best to argue with him very respectfully but that is such a bad take because i think youth should be taught to be optimistic rather then pessimistic where we can go in the future but a lot of adults think otherwise. a lot of adults believe the same things he believes. they think youth should just do their little thing, go to school,

have fun- >> if you are not creating change why are you there? for the money? >> there is also issue the youth commissioners felt of tokenization and being like a politician with-photo op- [multiple speakers] look at the youth leader i'm promoting and are they leave and there is no mentorship. there is big difference between mentorship and tokenization. i think we do a relatively good job in city hall. i think most people care about us and (inaudible) but there are times too where i'm like from people who i think of as people who are mentors who are like you just want me here to stand next to you for a photo opand don't think i'm will ing to do that without having a conversation with you about this

issue. >> you can tell when meeting someone or being at an event when they are just like using you versus if they actually care what you have to say. >> i think as a youth commissioner, it is so important to find the balance between being used for tokenization but also using that clout. you should take advantage of it. >> you are standing next to the elected official. >> it gives the youth commission more prominence and if it helps us do our job mine as well. it is important to find balance and make sure you are not taken advantage of. >> something else that is interesting is-i feel like i mentioned earlier but i feel like i didn't have any training. i have my own experience. >> before you continue, just saying you do not need experience to come into the youth commission position which i feel sometimes is the- >>b i have no experience in politics. >> push people not to

want to apply for the job because i don't know anything about local government and won't know how do this or that but you don't need it. >> you don't get thrown on a commission. there are people to support and educate you. >> i do feel in some ways i'm expected to know a concern thing or behave the way like the political machine kind of wants me to and you know, be professional and smile when the presenter is obviously like lying to me and stuff and thank them for coming and like, that's just not me. don't feel you will disrespect me and lie to me and then expect me to be nice because i am supposed to be nice to you. i feel people feel they can get away and that i'm not go toog call them out or not supposed to call them out as a young person. i'm supposed to thank you so much for your time. thanks for valuing my poor youth

commission. no, i don't know-i just feel you wouldn't lie to the board of supervisors like that or if you did you would get called out so i'll call you out. there is this expectation we are supposed to behave like-not saying we shouldn't be professional, we should be professional but i expect the same professionalism back. i don't want to be, yes. >> there have been times people come to the youth commission and are think they forget we are ultimately here to hold the city government accountable. >> an employee of the city. >> that and also it is like, the job of the youths commission is to be a voice for youth. we are going to call you out when you don't know if lie is the words to use, fudge the number, whatever happens. there have been times where i'm like, you forgot this isn't just a group of young people who are interested in this, but a commission who job is to hold people accountable.

>> i think the image of youth in the city is also just really interesting because some people will be like, you dont do any knowledge, they hang out and get (inaudible) they just sit and play video games. a lot of people come into youth commission presentations thinking we don't know anything. we will surprise them when we know these procedures and ask the specific questions related to policies on whatever they are presenting on. it is funny. >> so, is it i guess not youth commission but in general as youth is it a challenge to get more youth interested in politics and anything the youth commission is try toog do to help that? >> i think just bringing more awareness of what the youth commission is and the resources available for people to sign up and join. that is something that our community outreach members are trying to do. >> yeah. last year i was (inaudible) and we did this thing where we made

instagram posts about the initiatives we worked on. we detailed the initiatives and free (inaudible) able to put the work on social media and legislation on social media is important because it teaches youth that you can have a voice in all these city policies that are effecting your lives and a voice in the big movements and think making the youth commission as accessible to avenue everyone as possible is important. >> (inaudible) >> vote 16 is an initiative by the civic engagement committee of the youth commission and works to lower the voting age to 16 age in all city elections- >> san francisco specifically. >> san francisco city elections. it is actually received a lot of support from the board of supervisors, but lost my nearly 3 percent in the first election in 2016- >>.5 >>.5 in the next election. we are working to get it

on the 2024 ballot again with more voter education, more outreach because we believe it is important youth get involved in voting early because it instills a habit that voting is important. >> i think-i touched on this before, but a lot of young people are interested in politics but also scared to get involved because of how toxic it can be. i feel like i also heard from so many young people their first interaction with politics was negative so they were steered away from it. i had plenty situations happen to me with political activism but i think the environment we have on the youth commission and trying to create more generally within youth advocacy and activism in san francisco is positive and supportive. all of us have different opinions, have different views on issues, and voted different

ways but i also know i can go to any of the people around the table and on the youth commission to say this was a bad experience that i felt x, y, z about or i am in the situation, can we talk about it, because we all are in the same boat of sometimes things don't go our way and because we are young people we have certain experiences we want to share with each other as well. >> i think what is interesting about the youth commission is you don't need to know much about politics to be on the youth commission. my perception of it was that i need to know all of these u.s. amendments and need (inaudible) i think that is what a lot of people think the youth commission is. that you need abundance of political knowledge to be on the youth commission but i realized it was less political. a lot of community coalitions and just speaking from your own perspective and where you come from as a youth for better outcomes for everyone in san

francisco and i think that is important because it is like, i think the discussions in the youth commission encourage people to talk about where they come from and what they truly believe rather then affiliation to a political party. that is not what the youth commission is at all. >> i remember when i was applying to the youth commission, i reached out to (inaudible) i don't know anything about politics and scared. what will happen during the first meeting and you were like no, you will be fine and learn along the way and that is for any youth who want to get involved you dont need to go anything. you will be trained and taught along the way so take initiative, join it, don't be scared. >> also people get turned down from the youth commission. the supervisor jz mayor decides. there are other opportunities to get involved. reach out to youth commission staff. the youth commission seats people on other bodies and outside the youth commission as a whole another area of politics and policy work as well. i also say anyone watching this being i don't know if i want to be on the youth commission or i want

applied but didn't get on, there is still so many ways to get involved. we have a website you can find our information on. i really encourage that because you don't get started until you get started and once you get started you keep going and end up in a seat like this. >> i think it is so funny because involvement in politics is a little ball rolling. there is a million little balls rolling and opportunities. it is just crazy actually because the first thing i did is internship where i cleaned the streets in san francisco and now i'm like on the youth commission. >> (inaudible) if you are not sherbet the youth commission or not accepted to first time volunteer for the district supervisors, try to form a relationship with them or who ever is in the office and apply again to the youth commission. >> i think the other thing too is like, as much as there are people involved, there are a

lot of people who aren't and it is a great opportunity because i feel the biggest thing-you don't have to know anything special. you don't need to have learned anything. just show up and live your experience. you don't need to be on the city commission. we have our meetings are open to the public. you can show up to the board of supervisors and make public comment and speak your truth. just know your own experience and it will get you pretty far honesty. people will recognize you. i was just some little kid who would go to the mta board of directors and are- >> now they know you. >> i was at a random event and they came up to me and hugged me and are like my gosh, you are hayden miller from the meeting. i felt somebody. i'm like wow, these people know me and they don't always vote the way i want them to vote, but they listen and they hear you and that's what government is there for. just

remember at the end of the day, it might not always go the your way, the way government works, but for you that is the whole purpose of government is to serve you, so- >> the youth commission has public comment on every item and every motion we ever make. every city commission does. our meetings are open to the public. we want to make space for you. we want to hear from you. please come, share your opinion and you can also even if you can't make a meeting you can write public comment in too. i say especially at the-it is hyper-local the youth commission. we only represent young people in one specific area and one specific state so that is where your public comment will have the most im pact. a couple times people reached out and said this is a issue i didn't know needed to be addressed but it was because i reached out that this is something relatively easy we could address and change too. it isn't a big deal for city government but it is big deal for this person.

>> adding to hayden's point, i think city hall is pretty youth friendly because ewen was talking about running into city hall at 5 p.m. i have multiple occasions where i run down trying to get to the bathroom in city hall and an elected official would pass by or i'm holding a big bag of snacks. i think professionalism is important but like hayden was saying it is important to speak your truth and be yourself because coming into city hall, i didn't know anything about city politics. all i knew is i cared about these organizations, i cared about all these issues and i wanted to make a difference and people here really believed in me regardless how prfessional or elquent i was. they mentored me and come a long way. it is important a place like this is accessible for youth because people have offered me professional clothe to go to this event and they offered me opportunities to like speak on

panels and have speeches in front of crowds of 200 people and i'm shocked people believe in my. that is what san francisco city government is and it is beautiful. >> everyone in the building is still like a person. i remember the first time i met with an elected official and was like i'm nervous and what if i say something wrong and they came in and was like i'm tired from the last meeting. give me a second while i get a cup of coffee. there are moments where i'm like, it really like-we ultimately are still just students who spend most of our day in high school. elected officials are still people who make mistakes and who are doing their best and who have been entrusted with position by voters, but also are still people who you can relate and talk to. >> i think before i would see city government as like blocks.

they were machines but it is people operating these machines. people are making decisions and writing these documents and i think realizing that was so important understanding how i make a voice. i think a lot of the role on the commission isn't research, it isn't writing, it is just connecting with people. understanding that city government is all just people and making realizing how important the connections are. it really helps you in your work. >> really realwy appreciate you all coming today. i learned a lot from you all. please please always keep saying your truth, your voice and also encouraging other youth to share their voice as well and i think-we always think we are in good hands but we got to keep fighting the good fight so matter what so thank you for joining us today. >> (inaudible) follow

sfyouth-calm. >> we have facebook too. >> we meelt every other monday 5 to 7. >> thank you to sfgovtv as well. >> thank you so much. >> awesome. thank you. >> thank you. >> right before the game starts, if i'm still on the field, i look around, and i just take a deep breath because it is so exciting and magical, not knowing what the season holds is very, very exciting.

it was fast-paced, stressful, but the good kind of stressful, high energy. there was a crowd to entertain, it was overwhelming in a good way, and i really, really enjoyed it. i continued working for the grizzlies for the 2012-2013 season, and out of happenstance, the same job opened up for the san francisco giants. i applied, not knowing if i would get it, but i would kick myself if i didn't apply. i was so nervous, i never lived anywhere outside of fridays kfridays -- fresno, and i got an interview. and then, i got a second interview, and i got more nervous because know the thought of leaving fresno and

my family and friends was scary, but this opportunity was on the other side. but i had to try, and lo and behold, i got the job, and my first day was january 14, 2014. every game day was a puzzle, and i have to figure out how to put the pieces together. i have two features that are 30 seconds long or a minute and a 30 feature. it's fun to put that al together and then lay that out in a way that is entertaining for the fans. a lucky seat there and there, and then, some lucky games that include players. and then i'll talk to lucille, can you take the shirt gun to the bleachers. i just organize it from top to bottom, and it's just fun for me. something, we don't know how it's going to go, and it can be

a huge hit, but you've got to try it. or if it fails, you just won't do it again. or you tweak it. when that all pans out, you go oh, we did that. we did that as a team. i have a great team. we all gel well together. it keeps the show going. the fans are here to see the teams, but also to be entertained, and that's our job. i have wonderful female role models that i look up to here at the giants, and they've been great mentors for me, so i aspire to be like them one day. renelle is the best. she's all about women in the workforce, she's always in our corner. [applause] >> i enjoy how progressive the giants are. we have had the longer running

until they secure day. we've been doing lgbt night longer than most teams. i enjoy that i work for an organization who supports that and is all inclusive. that means a lot to me, and i wouldn't have it any other way. i wasn't sure i was going to get this job, but i went for it, and i got it, and my first season, we won a world series even if we hadn't have won or gone all the way, i still would have learned. i've grown more in the past four years professionally than i think i've grown in my entire adult life, so it's been eye opening and a wonderful learning

>> my name is andrew england the owner and collector at real old paper. i'm a native to the bay areaismt grew up in oakland, spent high school years here and lived in hawaii about 10 years. moved back shortly. been in san francisco proper now for about 8 years. when i realized i wasn't a dealer anymore in san francisco, i found openings and decided to opening my own store in north beach in 2016. north beach was a great place to start. i got a neighborhood feel from it. i got involved in the

community, but as far as business turnover, fisherman's wharf is 2 fold, 3 fold because there are so many more people here. we have been here going on 3 and a half years. i started as a hobbyist. i started collecting movie posters in high school. not originals. just favorite. when i mouved to hawaii there was a gallery that specialized in viptage posters and that taught me about the variables beyond movies and that is where this is my career path and what iment to do. i with irked for them for 8 years, took a portion of pay in store credit so i built a collection basically and turned it into a brz. business. hobby turns business and forch int. i got bitten by the poster bug it spiraled out of control and i needed to a store to outlet my collection.

san francisco has always had a viptage poster dating with 1970 with chicago new york and paris san francisco is a city with a area to buy vintage posters so people appreciate the time capsule and history. all are vintage. most in the store is at least 40 plus years old, some back to the 1800s so we have some 140 years old. they are advertisement,b war propaganda from world war 1 and 2. movie and with travel posters and alcohol and tobaccos. thin pieces of paper meant to last maybe a mujt or 6 weeks. the lowest point was the pandemic. having to close the gallery so i didsant have a web store biltd or outlet and barely a instagram and told all the customers don't buy on line. can't be sure they are

authentic or true colors or size or condition. it was very frustrating. it was a struggle until this opportunity presented itself and when i moved into this location on the wharf, there was still nobody here yet. we hadn't officially reopened but i rolled the dice, spent everything i had left to build this place out, and give it one last shot. it worked out very well. it worked out very well. >> here we have the 1971 for the fight. ali and frazier first meeting. the one first professional loss. there is a lot that appreciate the story and understand the esthetic and message and nuances within the graphic. the champagne [indiscernible] wonderful piece. it carries both styles. it has the [indiscernible] in his garb. he has shoes and fits the earlier periods, but done in the style

of art deco and that is what we offer and part of the experience knhing into the store. we will walk through the purchase and explain how we preserved it, what are the imperfections and what does the imagery mean. you have the older story and the newer story, pasted over the top. we will give you all that information. about everything. it may not be your favorite piece until you heard the story. i are think i always had in the back of my mind a second location outside the state. i dream is tokyo, but i do a lot of consulting in las vegas with pon stars group so thought about opening a shop in las vegas. we like to branch out at some point. we are from here and where the company started and where we'll stay, we may just also open another store. i love being here. this is where my family is, this is where i was raised and not ready to leave that behind cht yes, people are looking for this store and there are fewer and fewer store fronts, brick and mortar like ours that outlet

this thing. we offer the experience. i think it is very desirable collective subject matter because we are less and less acustoms. you can pick it while looking at it. examining the flaws and scale and color. you know what you are getting because you get that exact one. poster art is my area of expertise and i have affinity for. poster art especially they are not meant to last are under appreciateated. real paper, the vintage gallery is 777 beach street, tuesday-saturday 11-5 and monday 12-5.