sheriff's department oversight board for today march 7th, 2025 united states of america in san francisco we are now in session and the meeting is called to order at 2:05 p.m.. before we take the role we would like to welcome estella ortiz to the sheriff's department oversight board to

fulfill the term of seat number two. ms. ortiz, would you please introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself? >> thank you. everyone in my name is a cellarity. i am currently working at a family shelter. so that's just something about cory you know my work that i'm currently doing but i have been dedicated to serving the most vulnerable communities for the last 15 years or so and i'm a mother of three and have been myself system impacted. and so i just have a heart to serve the community that i'm here to serve. >> thank you. you welcome. we'd also like to welcome deputy city attorney christina flattest to the sheriff's department oversight board misled as will be the deputy city attorney who'll be advising the board on any legal matters. >> welcome. did you want to say a few words, christina oh, thank you

. >> might be growing up here in the city right? >> dan, would you please call the roll member half who are mango present present for mango is present member carry on is running a little late member or tease president ortiz present member palmer president palmer is present president sue present sue is present vice president director and member wins terms expired and march 1st 2025 and neither of them are seeking reappointment their seats are vacant pending reappointment by the mayor and the board is supervised hours. >> madam president, we have a quorum. thank you. and may i have the land acknowledged, please? >> the sheriff's department oversight board recognizes that we are situated on the unceded ancestral territory of the dramatist colony. the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous guardians of this land around the colony

have maintained their connection to it never relinquishing their responsibilities as caretakers for both the land and all who inhabit their traditional territory. in our role as guests. we acknowledge the advantages we gain from residing and working on their ancestral homeland. we express our respect by honoring the ancestors, elders and relatives of the romita colony community and by affirming their sovereign rights as their first peoples. >> thank you. let's stand and recite the pledge of allegiance. to the flag of the united states of america for which it stands one nation under god indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> dan do we have any announcements? >> yes. on behalf of the sheriff's department oversight board, we would like to thank the staff

at s.f. group tv for providing technical assistance to broadcast and record this afternoon's meeting. you may view this afternoon's broadcast online at s.f. gov tv or on cable channel 26. this is the standard monthly public meeting held in person by the sheriff's department oversight board. members of the oversight board will be present at this meeting and members of the public are encouraged to attend and observe. however, only those members of the public who are present in person will have the opportunity to provide public comment. with the exception of individuals with disabilities who require reasonable accommodation, public comment can be submitted in person and via email or through postal mail. to send public comments by email please contact the at asf gov.org. for postal submissions please address them to the office of sheriff's inspector general. one southbound as avenue eighth floor san francisco, california . 94103. individuals wishing to make

public comments in person may do so when their respective line item is called. with a time limit of two minutes for each comment. additionally there will be a general comment period at the conclusion of the meeting on topics not listed on the agenda but relevant to the jurisdiction of the sheriff's department oversight board. members of the public present in person may approach the podium to speak during the public comment period when it is available. each speaker will have two minutes to express their comments. a first tone will indicate there are 30s remaining and a second tone will signal the end of the two minute period. madam president, this is the fiscal clothes communications. >> thank you. please call the first agenda item calling line item one. >> approval of minutes action review and possible approval of the february 7th, 2025 board meeting minutes.

>> colleagues when we're ready if i have a motion and a second a motion a motion to accept the minutes. second. thank you and roll call vote please. >> public comment at this time members of the public wishing to provide comments regarding line item one. approval of minutes. >> are invited to approach the podium when it becomes available. >> good afternoon. i think what is it i need to call out what's going on outside. i like stand up for science know first you stand up for the truth then you can have science. the minutes does this include i remember you talking about the growing of food. >> remember in the minutes you should go back at some point you know we grow food. we need to grow food. so including of course in jail or it's very important and then

after that you hire the today's sits you ambassador and i think it's more like community embarrass a little bit so that if they grow food they know how to do something. so with recreation and parks we have to work with them, force them to have a space in every park in the city. one eighth of it is devoted to grow food because no matter what we are under food poisoning. >> yeah. so okay, sheriff, in the name of the show if you want. >> now i'm going to call out again the gathering onsite paid by i don't know maybe pfizer. >> i'm not sure. stand for science. hello. you stand for the truth fest then you can have science. thank you on the call to zero on the approval of minutes member i hafu on a mango i have on mango is i remember where tease i or teases i member palmer i ama is i president's

so i so is i there are four eyes and zero nays the minutes from the february 7th 2025 meeting are approved. >> thank you the next agenda item please calling line item to procedures for recruitment of an inspector general discussion and possible action. ben ritchie from the department of human resources will address the boards regarding the procedures and expenses associated with engaging a recruitment firm to attract applications for the position of a new inspector general. the board will evaluate and may approve a resolution regarding the engagement of recruitment agency mr. ritchie okay. >> welcome back then. thank you. my slides are on the laptop here they are perfect. >> all right. presidency board members thank you. my name is benjamin ritchie. i'm a senior human resources consultant with the department of human resources and i am here to provide information about the procedures for engaging a recruitment firm to conduct recruitments for the inspector general position.

as you're aware, the sheriff department's oversight board is authorized under the charter to recruit and appoint an inspector general. the board has discretion on how they conduct the recruitment process, including whether to engage a recruiting firm to assist with the process for reference, the board engaged the department human resources directly to conduct the recruitment for the inaugural inspector general appointment d h r worked with the board to develop a job description post the announcement on job boards and interview applicants to identify the most qualified candidates for the board to interview the full process from draft announcement to final selection lasted nine months. most boards and commissions in the city engage an executive recruiting firm when conducting an executive recruitment and d h r highly recommends that the board do so for the upcoming inspector general recruitment executive recruitment firms have specialized experience in conducting executive recruitments and establish networks for public sector

recruiting. they work directly with the board to carry out all phases of their recruitment from developing the job announcement and identifying potential candidate sources to interview scheduling and pre employment vetting their specialized experience and tools help ensure the board receives a diverse pool of highly qualified candidates for a position at the level of the inspector general. our estimate is that the approximate cost of engaging a recruiting firm would be about $55,000. i want to note this is an estimate only based on the salary at the position and our experience with prior recruitments. the estimate does not include direct cost such as travel reimbursement for candidates. if the board does decide to engage an executive recruiting firm, the first step would be to submit a request for proposals to dhs as list of pre-approved executive search firms and other interested firms would submit their proposals and the board would review them and make a selection based on the proposed

scope and cost the selected firm would then work with the board to identify the ideal candidate based on skills and experience the board believes is necessary for success in the role. >> the firm would then draft a job announcement and develop an outreach plan to ensure they receive a strong pool of qualified candidates. once that candidates are identified the firm would work with the board to schedule interviews and conduct pre-employment vetting for the most qualified finalists. after the board makes its final selection, the recruitment firm would work with d h r to extend an offer and process the selected candidates appointment if the board wishes to move forward with engaging an executive search firm d h r can issue a request for proposals which will and will share responses with the board our expected timeframe to receive responses is approximately two to three weeks. that concludes my presentation . >> thank you. looks like we have a question

or comment from member karen. >> hi. good afternoon. always a pleasure to see you. >> do you anticipate any changes from the position we were in previously when we were looking for a new inspector general to this year? is there anything that you anticipate that could be seen as different or something that we should be aware of to call to our attention, our attention or do you anticipate this to be pretty streamlined as was the previous process? >> i'm not sure. could you clarify your. i'm not sure i understand your question. is there anything that has changed? i mean i think that we have a firing freeze. >> we have a hiring freeze excuse me. you know it's a different climate. our is there anything that we need to be aware of as from an h.r. perspective that may have changed that would differenti hate this process from what you

previously outlined before. >> i anticipate the answer to be no but i want to be a little extra cautious just because i know that there's you know a new administration there's a lot of moving pieces. we have brand new board members, you know, so i want to make sure that we're crossing all our t's dotting the i's. >> sure. the hiring freeze would potentially have an impact. it's one of the reasons that h.r. strongly recommends the board engage an executive recruiting firm because they are due to our current staffing. we are not well positioned to take on the executive recruitment from our end and so we would likely need to bring on additional staff which could be our ability to do that could be affected by the hiring freeze. the mayor's office also requires four positions including the inspector general position. that department's request position approval for all positions to be filled. so that's a process that would be the only real step of the

process that would be different from last time is getting position approval from the mayor's office. >> so if i may say a few comments before i recognize the member for mango. so just for the public's edification and our new member member ortiz when we first engaged in looking at hiring an inspector general, we did not use a recruiting firm and it was not that this board i really want to clarify it was not that this board was opposed to using or recruiting firm. what would what had happened is another member unilag really engaged an executive recruitment firm and a request for proposal was sent. we then as a board asked d h r to go solicit other recruiting firms. other recruiting firms did not reply so in order to not have the appearance of this a double may not have the appearance of any kind of bias with that one recruiting firm we went it

alone and i will say that i worked very closely with then vice president carry on and it was fruitful but it was a lot of work. i spent a lot of hours but i think that as a board we had a better understanding of what we wanted to see in an inspector general and we also went out to the public to solicit comments so there could have been, you know, more robust meetings and i think as of february of last year we've had more participation from the public thanks to the latino task force and united players so different groups and reentry groups and the outreach of member palmer. so i want to leave it at that. i have also personally this week sent a letter to the mayor's office requesting approval from the mayor and i believe the decision will be made actually by the chief of public safety. so that letter is out there so that we don't have to wait and i've let them know that it could take anywhere from 6 to 9

months, which is a long time to be without an inspector general. i've also forwarded the reports of all the gains that we've made having an inspector general on board and all the work that we still want to do. >> so i just feel like it's imperative that we try to start the process as soon as possible. so hopefully next week we will have word that we can say go. so with that a member offer mango maybe it's a question for the board are we supposed to make a decision today whether we're going to go the do h.r. versus recruitment or is that still up in the air? >> i i think it's probably more comfortable if someone wanted to make a motion that we would use a recruiting firm. i guess that's the first issue and then the other thing is contingent upon the mayor's office giving us the go ahead. so yeah i'm sorry. just to clarify the mayor to

approve us the budget to pay for the recruitment or even having the position so i emphasize that it was a charter mandated position. so i didn't think that, you know, there was so much discretion there at least that's that was my kind of way of urging them to make to approve. >> so and i don't know attorney general attorney joe, i just promoted you city attorney flight test do you have any opinion about that? if it's a charter position is that affected by a hiring freeze to approve of? okay. okay. but it's not necessarily subject to freeze just that he has to approve all the positions. >> okay. >> all right. maybe the only maybe just more of a comment for a mr. here if we were to employ executive recruitment it's nice that last year, you know, we kind of had that work kind of laid out.

so are is your team able to like partner with executive firm to kind of hand over those like that information so we're not like reinventing the wheel. >> we typically wouldn't work directly with an executive recruiting firm but i believe the board has access and we could share with the board if they do want to request any of the information for example the position descriptions and stuff like that we'd be able to share that information with the board and not and not like candidate pools that you know had applied and maybe were in the second round like we are we able to get that information as well? >> i don't know about applicants. i'd have to ask and find out if we could if we're able to share that information. i know that the the board does have the list of places that we posted. okay. which would be which is information the board has already and i can ask and get back to you about whether we'd be able to share information about candidates. i don't know that we would but okay, that's fine. >> i just wanted to kind of see like what like what we can pass on to the recruitment for firm if we did go that route.

>> thanks. yeah, i was going to say so the last round we did have that really sticky subject in the charter provision about excluding all persons who've worked for a law enforcement agency and it it didn't matter the position. so the board decided that rather than eliminate so many qualified candidates we narrowed it to what we thought a voter would think about and so it was narrowed to sworn officers. >> um, but i think what was instructive for us was to be able to look at all candidates . so that might be something that we want the firms to be able to forward because sometimes you overlook somebody but when you look at the overall resume and job experience sometimes it pops out more to us and not necessarily to the recruiting firm. and so i you know, i acknowledge that there is good expertise there. but i also wanted to say that now i think the time is ripe to actually look at candidates because there are federal

inspectors general that are unemployed right now. so we have some potentially really qualified people and member karen, did you have some? >> yes, i guess my question is the letter that you sent to the mayor's office that is different. we haven't sufficient budget right now it's a question do we have sufficient budget right now to hire the firm based on what we have? is it contingent on anything financially? >> well, nicole paul has been armstrong has been handling our budget and we do have salary savings so it would become come from salary savings. okay. and so we would we would be really looking from february until when we see another inspector general. i think the challenge is though for the next inspector general come in and potentially again not have a budget, not have staff. absolutely. so that is something that we're looking at. so it's kind of like a vicious

cycle. i think that we did really well with our inaugural inspector general. >> so it's not to say that someone else can't fill those shoes. >> it'll just be difficult and we want someone i think of as equal caliber. >> yeah. all right. so financial it seems like we're in the position to be able to do the recruitment but whether the office is going to be sufficiently funded for the person to do the job is what you're looking at. >> right. and that might be a deterrent for someone to actually want to apply. i think we did do a lot of the work for the recruitment firm and you know members are welcome to review that brochure ben sent me what was used for recruiting last time and i can afford it back to dan for distribution and so we can take a look at whether or not we want to update or keep the same thing and that way that recruitment firm won't necessarily be starting from scratch. and i just want to say, you know, here in san francisco i

think we're a lot different. >> we have a lot of different community resources and community input. >> so i don't want that lost in kind of a black box recruiting firm that's not reflective of san francisco and that's really my input. >> yeah. just to note i have seen in some of the proposals from recruiting firms doing those community sessions as part of the recruitment proposal. so that's something that potentially could be part of proposals. we won't know until an rfp is issued what they do send but i have seen that in past ones and of course that comes with the cost so we'll determine if we want to do that. okay. any other questions comments maybe just a comment that i know that last year when we did do the recruitment process or maybe 2020 i can't remember 2023 it was pretty long like i remember we had to like i think we started in april and then by the time we hired terry it was like september october.

so is there like a maybe that my question is is there like a deadline we need to like hear back from the mayor's office or just kind of like we need to what i in the next fiscal year starts in july. >> so i think that i'm just been pushing them so if we start now i think it may go a little bit smoother. i mean it also depends on the time commitments of the board because we had special meetings to do interviews, remember right. yeah. you know the recommendation is that the board can issue a request for proposals before you receive the position authority since that's not committing the board to any cost we would recommend that the position authority be confirmed before actually engaging the recruiting firm since that's the point when you would start incurring the cost. >> okay. and at this point do we have any public comment i'm sorry.

oh i was going to do okay. i could do well. let's have a motion first. let's do the motion. we'll do a public comment. could i have a motion and i have a follow up then because i think what i just heard was the recommendation was to wait to hear from h.r. >> from the mayor's then to engage a recruiting firm. >> so yeah, so our recommendation is that the board does not need to wait to issue to to issue the request for proposals or requests but not the hiring part but yeah not actually making a selection and signing a contract until the position is complete. okay the position authority is approved. >> thank you. i just wanted to make sure i move to go ahead and make the request for proposals for a for so again that public comment at

this time members of the public wishing to provide comments regarding line item two procedures for recruitment of an inspector general are invited to approach the podium when it becomes available. >> mr. feel okay so no matter what it's quicksands what you are sure of is that the new consortia you know what is already suspect before starting so at least you know that so you can vote to know that you know is suspect because that's over so shenanigans with the firm selecting a guy that fits the agenda no no i said it's by drawing so you have proposals. >> yes napoleon you have a certain number of candidates, a dozen it and then the best is no matter what it is by drawing oh, it's you for one you only like that there is no possibility of you know gotten one. >> yeah we see if you comply with what you said you will do to help everyone not the film

or whatever for government as we know. >> so i don't know how you can deal with that at least now you know that the new guy is already suspect so great nothing you tweeted we treat him or her as a suspect. perfect. thank you. and they called the roll on the motion to engage a recruitment firm member for mango. i am for mango as i member carry on i carry on is i remember or tease or tease as i'm member palmer i am is i president so i so is i there are five eyes and no nose no nays and the motion is approved . >> thank you dan the next agenda item please. colleen line item three presentation by damian posey discussion damien damian posey

a prominent community leader and motivational speaker widely recognized as uncle damian will share his journey of finding inspiration during his time in federal prison. he will discuss his encounter with ruby corpus, his involvement with numerous community organizations and how these experiences have enabled him to serve as a source of inspiration for the youth in san francisco. >> uncle damian sounded like me a little bit. good afternoon board members. thank you guys so much for having me at this time i would like to ask for position permission for one of my young mentees to give you guys each a flier. okay if you come up there you could hand it to dan and or hand it to today. >> welcome. thank you to hear from you. and we we've previously heard from rudy and cedric akbar so we want to hear about support services for their reentry community. >> definitely. definitely. so i've been instructed to give

you guys a full spiel. was there enough for everyone? yes. okay. to give you guys a full spiel so kind of get comfortable a little bit. >> as stated earlier, my name is damian posey affection on the committee is uncle damian. i have the pleasure of being a san franciscan a native born and raised right here nine 1178 general hospital to a beautiful young 60 year old mother which is definitely a beautiful thing but also you know as we know cause some struggles in my life her life in life in general predominantly bayview hunters point raised. but you know my mother being a young mother we moved around a lot. so it was rough during at the time but you know, it ended up working out later in my life being familiar with a lot of communities i lived in

primarily double rock but moved the fillmore when i was 11 with the roosevelt middle school lived in a village you guard gardens, patrol hill west point a little bit all over you know in becoming a juvenile adolescent from the time i was 1213 until i was basically 19 i was in and out of juvenile hall for one reason or another. every time like i came home we moved away. i was different but also being in juvenile hall i connected with a lot of young people throughout the city that made me like a you know, a city guy, you know, so i never was really you know, i'm from somewhere but i never really played politics heavy because i didn't want to because i love the city so much. i wanted to be able to go everywhere and it's that's one of the challenges that the young people face now is they can't even explore the city that we love. they're so beautiful, so many great things going on in different parts of the city especially with a lot of the

the rebuilding and all of that stuff, you know? but during my time in and out of juvenile hall, you know, i have to pay homage to, you know, individuals who were doing their best to speak life into my young world. you know, i have to pay homage to jack, jack wolf and omega boys club who you know, if you familiar with san francisco and the system anything you can't go anywhere. and i know about jack jack you know that the godfather of all shout out to the whole mega boys club family doctor marshall everybody doing great work in the community. but you know, jack was that guy in juvenile halls and in the jails and in the prisons. you know, he's one of the individuals that you know, i model my my current work after ,you know, his tenacity, his his humbleness. he's just never giving up, you know, on the young people and the people in general because i definitely gave him several reasons to give up on

me, you know, and my brother who with me to my help we'll talk about that later, you know. but you know, he never gave up on us and that's one of the models that you know, i follow behind now you know, so he was able to get me diverted from a serious juvenile case and got me sent to glen mills school for boys where you know, i got my jd my high school diploma but previous to that every every juvenile hall in the san francisco surrounding bay area if you want to say that from hillcrest to alameda you know i touched it was in glenwood boys ranch which is san mateo equivalent to log cabin boys ranch and i was in log cabin as well as well as that the one they had right above hidden valley hidden valley was in

hidden valley to the little stint over there leading to the california authority which led to glen mills which you know, i learned a lot experience a lot of different things. i believe my mistake was even though i love the city so much i came right back, you know, and got caught right up after getting out of glen mills which led to me receiving a ten year prison sentence in federal prison. i did ten years in prison 120 months for 922 g ex-felon possession of a firearm, discharging a firearm in a public place during my tenure no no pun intended in in federal prison i went to atwater us p terminal island and then us p lompoc leading to siegel ville texas where i participated in 18 month

residential drug treatment program not that i couldn't get any time off because i had a gun case but i knew that once i got out i wanted to work with people who did have drug problems and learn about facilitating and stuff of that nature. but also while i was in lompoc i helped to start a program called start start taking alternative routes today kind of like scared straight but not so scared where we were able to convince the city of lompoc to let us work with the young people that were in the juvenile halls in the boys ranches in the in a group home the stuff of that nature for us to bring them up to the prisons, for us to talk with them and to have some pen pal type of correspondence with them in their families and i gained a level of success to the fact that i would receive the award from the city of lompoc while i was in prison there. so that kind of you know, let me know that, you know, that

things that i were thinking were possible. you know, i definitely knew that the young the youth in my city were a little bit more say citified than the young people in lompoc. you know, they didn't have as many hurdles as our young people do but they still had some so they let me know that, you know, the things that i were thinking and the changes and the the love that i wanted to provide in my city that it was possible if i could do it from prison once i got to the streets i knew that i would be able to, you know, make a difference because that was the the main thing. you know, i wanted to make a difference. i wanted to write some of the wrongs that i had committed to my beautiful city. i wanted to make amends to my mother for being a horrible son ,you know, at the time for make amends to my little sister for being a horrible big brother because you know, when you in the streets you thinking

that you know, you helping the family but you actually hurting you know, because they're the ones putting money in your books they got to live their life missing their big brother or they saw and you know so no amount of money you can make in the streets can make up for that. so in 2011 october 11th actually 2011 i was released from school ville, texas after doing ten years in prison to the jail care halfway house 111 taylor and you know, i was an individual when i was in prison. i like to exercise you know, i like to work out, you know, so i was a lot bigger than i am now. you know, at times i can be, you know, scary for some people or intimidating is the word. so i tried very vigorously to try to get jobs and be part of a community. i volunteered with the syrian if you know you old school that's back in the day a change

this is as vip now and different stuff and wasn't able to obtain any viable employment for the first couple of months but i had found a home at the cedar center in the mission over by army street projects. that's where i met this young man right there young quist right there when he was around 1112 years old. he's 24, 25, maybe 35 on the road now. >> you know and i volunteered there for two months and they seen how well the young people were gravitating to me and the fact that i had on them regardless of how i you know, big and tattooed up i was you know, my heart was in the right place when he hired me to work at the afterschool program with joseph silva and valentina who are both doing great work rnow. gloria romero who gave me an opportunity when people in my own community were like

neighbor, you know what i mean? which i understood because when i left i left a bad taste in san francisco's mouth, you know? and you know i know that for a fact i wasn't you know i was a gangster drug dealer type of individual, you know, and i never say that bragging. lee you know i'm very regret for the life that i lived the mis guidance that i let over take me you know, at that time being a young man not being steered in the right way, you know, but even then individuals ,you know, make their own decisions. so i don't blame anybody you know, and that's how i approach it with my young people now man just like you know, you just got to make better decisions. you got to understand what's right and what's wrong for you and your life. you know? so i worked with mission neighborhood centers an f to program for a little while. then i was promoted to a counselor working with the individuals that were on home

detention stuff of that nature and then you know, some things that presented themselves from my path that i had to take care of because you know, that's one thing that i teach the young people, man. some things don't don't go away depending on what you do and i had to handle that as a man and i did that and you know, things happen the way they happen for a certain way just like with my journey it was it was rough but i understand that i had to go to those things so that i could be a testament to the young people, you know, work with prison and also you know, i've been shot five times. the first time i got shot i was 12 years old, you know, trying to hang out trying to be somebody that you know, i thought i was supposed to be almost cost me my young life and i wouldn't have been able to enjoy anything or do anything if out you know, if that bullet would have struck me in my chest, i don't think i would have survived. you know, as a 12 year old boy . and then, you know, after i dealt with that situation, i was blessed to be reintroduced because i had already have

familiarity with united place and rudy corbin so you guys spoke and you know that that name that organization needs no introduction, no other accolades. we know what's up with rudy and you you know and i was blessed to be the lead case manager for that organization for four years. i came in and you know, they recognized right away my passion, my commitment for the community, for the young people and it kind of spearheaded me past individual who had been there for ten plus years, you know, not that i was better anybody i just you know, my passion was different. i you know, i just did ten years in prison. i've been shot five times my whole life i've been living here. so you know, people you know, it's one it's the one thing to love on the community and care about people. but you know what? you you've been through it and understand it's a different type of understanding. you know, it's a different type of love not that it's you know, better or worse, you know it's just it's just different. so you know, people try to understand how you know, guys

like myself and rudy and you know, chico's and other individuals who who do this work which there are plenty in the community. so rich is how i can do so passionately with so much drive, you know the brother will part like you know i know your story and appreciate all that you do for the community and that you've done and what you represent is one of the reasons why i even agreed to come come do this because i'm not really like, you know, super heavy political and all this like going to explain myself to nobody about nothing because you know everything we do we do have the muscle, you know, we'll talk about that later. you know we don't get no city funding, no support what we doing in my organization but you know, it's individuals like us who just you know, the love is needed. so as regards to what we're going to do so i was able to be the lead case manager and not to play it for a minute but you know i love you. i love rudy. but i mean, you know, if you if you been in organization or you know, have organization do anything, you know you don't

need to rudy's in the same space. so you know, we were, you know, not butting heads at all but they was like, you know, i'm supposed to be there like hey, that's what he you know, i'm like, hey, i got to do a tune, you know, type stuff. so you know, we had a great separation which lead to me supporting our former mayor london breed and her campaign as one of the heads of security and support and community outreach. and then after that i end up being asked to work over at young community developers where i was a lead case manager why city support and reentry with the young people coming out of juvenile hall case management life coaching, things of that nature. but real quick even so when i came home i immediately connected with jack jack and was going into juvenile halls every monday and wednesday for for the boys groups the omega boys clubs that we used to participate when we were kids. so i've been doing that since

i've been home like 12, 13 years you know, consistently, you know. so i was already connected with the young boys as you know, half that you know that's what i grew up why did you see 375 i was i'll never forget that address you know so that that immediate connection whatever however they needed i've been there and it culminated in these several different instances where i was working with the young boys on probation at united players and our y and on my own just in general. so i was that y c d for a measure of time and you know, god just put it on my heart and being it's culminated and the covid was coming and i had formed officially for my organization as for us we i actually formed it when i left united place you know and marquis used to be a u.p. kid and a bunch of the kids that kind of like you know, gravitated with me and my moving where we were doing not

like you know but you know and we got together like what are we going to do? what are we going to call it? because like i said, i love rudy with all my heart which you know, he's a filipino old soldier from the soma you know i'm a brother from and his point and film more you know we need to support to service not that they don't be around which you know their main focus was in the soma which is very much needed for the young people in the community in the south the market district but that it was a lot of love lacking over in bayview hunters point at fillmore and other parts of the city that i seen you know that i just wanted to be a cog in the machine because that's what us for us eventually culminated into. you know you guys all have these fliers right here and if you look at what we do this is just a little snapshot. you know, i actually have my and my assistant dane is not here right now but we have went over some thing last night and it's like i got close to like 95 initiatives. i can't put it all on this flier right here.

i could definitely send it to you guys. you guys can look at it but there's so many things that we've been blessed to be able to do and you know, having been in juvenile hall my the majority of my my my teenage life having been in prison the most of my you know, the time i was, you know, about to be 22 to you know, i was 3233 you know that you know new years i know which i was doing in your 20s are you i was probably at the club chill in school and all that. i was watching my back in the shower, you know, and saying, you know, unfortunately and fighting off depression and suicide and you know, advocating in the prisons for better schooling and better programs and stuff of that nature, you know, and for, you know, support and religious beliefs, you know, of all individuals in jail making sure that everybody, you know, had something and we respect it

kind of like, you know, how we do in the city, man. you know you know my motto is i don't care what you do, how you do who you like, who you care so you don't long as not hurting nobody else how you making your money whatever long as you're not hurting nobody else you know that's that's my motto and those are so many things that i push while i was in prison. so i continue to carry that out. and when we got that for us together and i just was you know, in my car moving around connecting with other cbos with project level still working with you not a place working with, you know, individuals in the community were hot city and you know coming at the kids tailor made all of these guys you know with chico with as vip just being in the cognitive machine and letting you know the little homies in a little home homegirls in the community see one of their own because you know, unfortunately you know how it goes with the respect comes the different level of understanding and listening when you've been to prison or you shot somebody or you you know what i mean?

you know unfortunately you know we've been programed to listen to those people and respect those people and have a different understanding and where you know you might have a guy right here that did 12 years of schools got three master's degrees and that's cool but you know you know, he you know, got no tattoos on his neck, you know what i mean? and is and is crazy. >> so you know if i could not fool or trick the young people but if i can you know, get them to understand that, you know, these are the type of individuals we need to look to listen to as well because i'm saying it you know, as a o.g., as somebody who been through it and you listen to you respected you know, i want to use my quote unquote old power to influence, you know, better things because i didn't want it sitting on my conscience any longer if anybody was following behind me and they end up in prison or dead, you know, it's you know, outside of you know how it is when you know when you see when you in jail and you see your homeboy community like oh, i lost my boy, you know, we kind of have this thing like why are we happy? this is a terrible place.

you do not want your friends or your family or anybody you love to be here for no reason like you know it's cool and you see you pounding you know they somewhere safe, you know, but they're really not safe because you know, anything could happen at any moment, you know when you behind those walls you know, i have an extensive background at a 50 bryant sixth floor seventh floor the old yet a new jail. you know, i haven't been there recently. i would like to be able to create some programing where we could get our program in there, you know and just make us some love available. i don't know what it's going to look like right now, you know? but you know, we we definitely support a lot of men's groups, women's groups, you know, have we could support maybe that could be another conversation offline. you know but when we started us for us, you know, we are a whole mission. our goal was is just keep

loving on the people. a lot of times you know i seen individuals who had good hearts but they weren't super charismatic in the community. they couldn't get individuals to come to their their events when they were provided some good resources, you know. but i could do that. i could, you know, garnish people and get people together. so that was one of my things helping other smaller or other nonprofits, you know, bringing people to their needs coming in and volunteer volunteering and support and where people feel like they did you know, because i have been there i you know, i did it myself a lot of times i was doing small events. people wasn't showing up and this and then we just trying to level with the people and everything you know, my people were showing up but we wanted other people to show up. so you know i seen the the the the lack of support and love for other individuals in the community that we're trying to do things and you know and when the pandemic hit it really got really, really real. you know people were shut their doors. they were, you know, going inside. they were mandated to we all had to do it per say.

you know, and you know, i have a daughter. she's 25. i had raised her on my own since i came home. i was a single father from the time she was 13 to she was 19 and she left home so i was kind of like all my own and i'm strong and i have a strong immune sense because that's they were saying like, you know, young people who have strong immune systems they really weren't so subject to the virus. so you know, i got the young people together and we were serving the community. we were partnered up with the kathy davies senior center and mobilize love and individuals and we were delivering over 200 meals every day to seniors that were shut in. we pick up the food from the senior center and take it to them. i partnered up with another organization mobilize love who they had mobile food trucks, mobile barber trucks, mobile washing clothes truck and a stage truck where we were going to each community and just you know you know think you know that that virus man a lot of people went to a lot of different things man it was a

lot of depression. it was a lot of infighting. people were didn't know what to do. they were in you know i mean it wasn't for me. i did 17 months in the hole in prison so you know, i was like you know but the love still needed to be there. so we were you know, mobile i was primarily like a asian and christian organization so they weren't really familiar in the inner city communities and of course a good damien and as for us we pretty well known i'm you know i'm blessed like i was saying earlier to be able to make those connections everywhere because i could go anywhere in san francisco everybody can do that and be be welcome. people know when i'm coming. i'm not coming on no b.s. i'm not coming to hurt. i'm coming to help. so when they see me coming they know that it's a love coming in. if i bring somebody with me they know that it's official. we can trust them. it's because i'm a better them because all i have is my word. i don't have a lot of things you know my integrity is one thing that i maintain even from my criminal lifestyle present to our if i say i'm a do something i might do it if i owe you i'ma my pay you you know if i'm connecting with

some people you know i've already seen them doing the work, you know, so i don't you know, i don't advocate for everybody if i say some names that you know you could black or yeah yeah i know they doing a work because i'm not you know because it's a lot of that unfortunately you know like i said you know i'm primary baby 100 point we got more nonprofits per capita in anywhere in california you with my community you know look like that you know i don't look like we got all of those resources you know i see some you see that list really like i be like where are these people? you know and you know it's definitely i don't even want to say better than when i was growing up. i'll say it's different. i don't know. you know there's some needs there. things aren't as bad, you know, per se as like when i was growing up is it is is bad in different way so the help is still needed, you know, the love is still need to be pushed out the communities you know the support for you know individuals that are taken into custody and having to deal with the courts and you know it's

still surrounding around, you know, some necessity. now we know a lot of people are doing things like i said earlier because they're making bad decisions and they need to do better. they don't have to you know, but i still believe that the majority of things that are going on is people's doing out of necessity and need, you know, especially initially like initially you know with my my criminal lifestyle i'm thinking like i got to help my mom. i got to help my sister. you know, i got to do this type of stuff and then it you know, it gets addicting and it develops into something else and then it's like your paths doing it because you need to it's like you know it's a and it's an addiction is a trap that you got to get out of, you know? and that was one of the things that i really, really push over at us for us, you know and we've developed over these past years so many different because it's really usually that's one of the reasons why we have so many initiatives and different stuff that we do because i'm constantly asking the young people in the

community what you what you think we should do. you know what's what's needed, how should we do it? you know, i mean what should it look like? you know, i've had you know, not to be grandiose we've had to over the past i want to say at least 3 or 4 years the biggest and the best backpack gives back in the city maybe we call it an extravaganza. you can look on our youtube. you know, you know what it's like, you know, getting the kids excited about going back to school, providing backpacks, supplies in the carnival atmosphere just really loving on the people living in the community getting that camaraderie going and everything that i do is intentional getting ready for the summer, doing peace rallies, you know, because we know it warms up during the summer in the streets. you know china's trying to spread the love as much as possible in every in every different way, every different angle. you know, i don't claim to be the best or you know, like i always say, you know, i'm not that smart but i got a lot of heart. you know, we're going to just keep pushing to learn and take community as best we can have

it have a youth lounge over in a 730 for instance where we provide afterschool and programing and just safe space for young people. the kids in a community now it's not big enough to be called a center you know we call it the lounge. i was going to do a podcast called the once a master now mentor podcast where i interviews into guys like myself who were like real bad in the streets at night. he changed their life and doing better. i wasn't able to get to it because the pandemic hit and the space that i went to i had big huge boxes of masks and hand sanitizer because if you remember at the same time that's when you know the black lives matter movement was getting going. george floyd we was out there in the community when hand sanitizer and mass water snacks just loving on the people trying to keep them safe just being of service, you know being soldiers in a community and a lot of that stuff you know, i put in to the young people that i work with, you know i don't have a bus. i got a van now kind of where

we borrow a van. but it was just you know, in my in my car who i could get you know, we we push and we're feeding the homeless. we were, you know, community cleanups and we doing everything still saying today just a little bit larger you know we are honored to be able to be a host site for several different job internships for young people and young adults and reentry community. you know, i'm not going to put everybody in this in the street but the group that i came with three four out of them are on probation now or fighting cases or dealing with, you know, the system what type of where just got out. it's you know, so we're very, very heavy into them mondays we we got reentry mondays where i'm just you know our lounge is open we got laptops if they want to get resumé support job search support i work with time done trying to help individuals find jobs who have records which is still so very hard you know so many there's still 40,000 barriers to individual

coming home from jail you know, with a record or you know, i just i'm 46 years old. they had a little thing for me at juvenile hall. i'm always up there. everybody know me. you know, but they just sealed my juvenile record, you know, because i'm trying to get my working with clean slate to get my dog registered is like you got to get your juvenile record sealed first. you know, that was a long time ago, you know, but that that actually pretty dig too but they you know finally got it close and now i'm working on a clean slate nice. another thing that i do have young people marquis not of my boy is gay and you know he's got his own business brought him right here you know and i got seven of those to start their own businesses so whatever we could do how we can do it you know we do card right parties for the seniors. >> i got a lot of senior initiative like i could talk about like i said, it's like 96 initiatives man. you know we working with the i got so i'm a whole site for my city of now life works c y cjc

y c where you know the young people can come internship with my program also have imo use with success centers where i see the in somebody else for you know young tagged youth and individuals on probation and stuff of that nature for them to come work and have a whole side and get some mentorship and you know those are these are the things that i'm doing with these individuals mean we're doing community cleanups we helping the seniors where you know i got the my youth helping the younger youth and every day and keep it intergenerational we in every community like we trying to more one city man so there's so many things that we're doing and as i said earlier you know i've been we've been at the lounge for maybe the past seven, eight years, you know, with no funding, you know no, i'm not going to say no support because there's been some love or been give some great donation of time to time or reach out, get

some grants. you know, but the city know what we're doing, you know and you know i know it's rough especially now with the budget and all that kind of stuff and you know, i'm out here in aspen nothing. but if you all hear something, you know, say should you know sean my way if they feel like that's their you know, their their laying like you know like shout out to the mayor finance to pinsky's they know we do work with senior soldiers like here's some support to help you do the work that you're doing with the seniors you know because i have initiative in the summer where i called the generations unite initiative where we partnered up with the cathy davis senior center to chinatown. see you see where i place youth over there and they have a form they sit at the table and that the seniors need some support around something they could come and get help filling out a request form. the request form goes back to my admin staff and then we we we make a connection where we book an appointment for the young people to get some support like you know moving refrigerator cleaning out garages, cleaning our yards.

>> i would say this is just an introduction and we hope to cross pollinate. we're here to support you but we want entire san francisco to know about you. >> we're not here and i know that member palmer just itching to say something because he ping me right up here but also he has a presentation to give so i just wanted to just allow the members to actually interact with you for a moment. >> definitely and then feel free to send additional information and events that you have through dan and we will try to make the time to be out there because we are reflective of the community and we want to be there and just fire in fourth generation on my mom's side the thing that breaks my heart about san francisco is it used to be the entire city was our home and now it's like and i want to say it's a little political but industry x and people seem more siloed, more segregated which i don't like. and you know gary said the baby point out there where it was

solid middle class people work people working side by side of all different backgrounds and they felt like the city was better back then and a lot of black businesses out in the bayview i agree. and in closing i just want to say thank you guys for you know because this is you heard my story. this is monumental for me. never ever, ever did i think you know, i got you know, mundine gave m i got my own day june 26th, uncle damien's day i got kids city i got some some proclamation stuff of that nature man but i'm still humbled. i'm still grateful to be you know, just to be able to come and present in this you know, this honorable building in front of these honorable individuals. i'm also the southeast commissioner. i don't know if you guys knew that i'm on the southeast commission so i just appreciate all the hard work each and every one of you guys have done and i don't know if you know me but i know you guys you know i do my homework and i appreciate everything you guys done and i, i just want to officially wow. while i'm here we in city hall i just want to recognize

and honor man all my us for us participants and you've everybody stand up stand up, stand up. >> you know from from the young people that you know trying to get their life together to the individuals who have been volunteering and giving back like yolanda and the mine you know, it is my my my teammates right there working with the young people to equis who's trusted me with his life for the past 1112 years to my new guys barry and you know everybody you know to that to the youngest one to jeremiah over there who just are working with us who's doing his best to get his life together to my nephew to everybody manages you know it is not easy, you know, for for none of you to get up and come to work to to do whatever, man but we're going to figure it out together, man. >> i just want to thank you guys once again. appreciate you. >> you open for questions and for palmer i was great because that was going to be my first response was can we hear from the youngsters? but oh yeah it was i got some it was good that you introduced him and gave him a shout out

because that's what it's really about. my baby is she stay ready? i thought she was going to come up here too. i was waiting to hear if you ready. that's one of my mains right there been you know i put her business history but you know, she could be outside doing bad but she finally gets it every day and i'm so proud of her and just you know, we just got to keep up the fight. yeah. you know, we know each other. we've been we've been on the streets and i'm proud of you. i respect you. i support you 1% one of the things i wanted to emphasize was in hearing your story that she shared with us is there the roles that fathers play in the home and in this society we call you uncle damian but you are like a father figure is very important that fathers teach boys how to become men and to show little girls the example of what a good connection is and vice versa of how you make sure your partnerships up. but definitely being a good character human being is was important where the male female

non-binary was whatever right and so that's what you represent in this community and that's what's needed. >> second it's about success and how how we achieve it and one of the things that you show is like law enforcement versus impacted individuals system impacted individual partly of why our community here in san francisco and around the world but especially in california from the bay to l.a. the cia introduced into our communities things that have created an environment that we're still fighting against cointelpro and when we're talking about reparations, even if you don't give everybody a dime, at least you can clean up the mess that you made. start there first. right? and so i'm glad that you take the initiative to clean it up and hopefully they'll come around some time in the near future. and finally the employment that the employment discrimination that happens for system impacted people. i haven't worked a job since 20

november 23rd because of these things, right? it was hard enough getting out of 31 years and finding a job but there were entry level positions which i was gladly to take, you know. but if that if poverty starts at 80,000 you pay me 45, right? >> it's a start. now we're looking to increase that. >> so asking for mentors in the in the in the corporate world in the business war to mentor and give openings and salaries that has 80 9000 thousand plus this is the type of programs that we need if we're going to reverse the policies that created san francisco to be in the place that it is now and starting with your people are people that the youth the disenfranchized that's where we need to hit right? so thank you for everything that you did man. >> as for us that's why so i appreciate you. thank you. thank you. >> and victoria, thank you so much. you know i have to say today i was really tired and i was like man, i got meetings, i've got

work, i've got a medical appointment, i've got this. and i was like i have this responsibility be a woman of your word. and i showed up here and i was like i did it. >> i showed up. that's right. we're proud of you. you know, thank you for that because it was so inspirational . >> you know, this is one of the reasons why i think i do this work and i think many other people do this work is because we see ourselves reflected by other leaders. i see you as somebody that obviously has a passion for community but what i also see is the transfer station of the skill sets that you learned in that life to be able to hustle, right? >> oh yeah, because that's you know like i grew up in the hood too. >> like i you want to go in the alley? you want to go in the courtroom? i got it like you know, so i. i understand and i appreciate seeing people like you that

come from these backgrounds and master these tools that you know that you developed in not the best circumstances. right. let's put it gently but are here doing the work of community and i want to highlight a couple of things that you said because i think they're so important. >> first of all, you identified the building of leadership, right? you started with rudy and the players. >> i love them, love them united players amazing. >> but what outsiders don't understand about folks of color in our communities is we get to have conflict in our communities and learn from each other and have different leadership styles and still be able to produce and do the work because it's not just about one entity. it's not about one person, one personality. >> we need many routines. we need many damian musics many

people because the need is so great, you know so i appreciate that you're highlighting as somebody that is home grown right giving back to the community that understands that community and not once did i ever hear from you putting down another organization and be like they don't do it this way we do ours better. >> you know you feel the love. >> you do something that is specific for the things that need it in this community and i'm sure your course collaborate and all those things and that's what community looks like and folks on the outside don't get that because they've never had our type of community. >> you know that sense of love and that bridging and that connection to and sisters and struggle and finding joy in the struggle. >> so i want to acknowledge that and appreciate that and i want to highlight to all the amazing youth and leaders that

you have here. all of you should be gunning for his job. you should all be the next executive director of your own organization of your own ceo of your own business all of those things. this is how it starts. you know, i grew up in incredibly poor. i was a saw my father murder my mom and i am a survivor of a lot of extreme trauma, you know, got kicked out, got used to have a mouthpiece on me, got in fights in the streets all the time, did my all kinds of bad stuff. but education was my tool. i still made a lot of mistakes on the way but it was education that saved my life and subsidies. i ain't going to lie pell grants welfare like all of that like section eight all of those things and i grew up on section eight i was able to go to ucla on scholarships, on grants, things that are harder for all of you now it's not right.

the world that has been handed to you is not right but you are developing and you have superpowers that no one can see yet and you can't maybe don't see them yet but i see them in each of you. >> okay so i'm excited. so i'm like oh you excited? >> i'm excited to see i want to be able to do this great work and i'm excited to get your perspective and your critique right. we are here as an oversight board. our job is to make sure that in the inspector general is making sure that the sheriff and all of the deputies are doing their job. if you don't think they are, we want you to come and tell us. >> okay. and it's not about stitches. you know, snitches get stitches. this is a different environment. you know, there's context, right? this is an environment where you're not snitching.

you're advocating for your rights because it's your community's rights and it's each and every one of your rights and to be treated with exactly your money with the respect and dignity regardless of you being involved in the criminal justice system. so it's an honor to be here. thank you all of you for being here and the work and the continued work you will continue. i know doing and i am hermana in arms with you. >> i'm a sister in arms with you. thank you. i'm definitely working on that. i got a mentorship program that i'm going to be dropping in the summer. >> amazing. thank you member carry on. and next we have member ortiz. nice to see you again always there were always crossing paths. hi izzy. nice to see you again. one of my former students really just you know, want to say thank you for always showing up. thank you for always saying yes. i know that it is. we don't do this for the money

and i know it's hard and we're struggling to survive in san francisco just with rent and everything. right. and so but you are still saying yes, you still show up and you are always you're just like always there present and that is so important to our communities. we've probably worked in many different communities. we've ran ran into each other at different events and i'm just really happy you know, to see you, to see the youth. you know how i feel about youth and prevention and you know, awareness and intervention and so thank you for always just serving. i just want to say that and say hi to everyone and i'm proud of you guys. proud of you guys also showing up for community because when you a part of us for us you know it's for us, right? it's for the community and and and there's that bring something so vital to our communities because it is you know it's us for us, right? so we understand we don't have

to tell our story to someone that doesn't understand us and how we can just you know what doesn't you know what is the saying what's understood doesn't need to be said and you come with that everywhere you go and i hope to continue to collaborate, continue to run into you in community and always understand what we're there to do and that serve our community. >> thank you. that's right. thank you so much ortiz member afro mango i just wanted to echo the earlier sentiments from the board members. i also grew up in the city i was born in general hospital as well. that's right and you know i have my was mentored by people like i don't know if you know john now or of course gainer uncle john yes uncle john gainer or similar ursula so those are my my my legacy my mother half yes, yes, exactly. >> and so i just you know, they do so much work in the community and i'm definitely one of the products of their, you know, hard work.

>> but just like just knowing that like they have so much equity with the community like no one knows obama it's everyone knows their name, right? and so i always just appreciate their you know, their leadership and this is more of like a broader comment. it's probably just like my opinion alone. but you know, i have very troubled by like the leadership that's current but the political climate today and i was talking to gaynor i mean ursula and i was like oh my gosh, what should we do? blah blah blah. and she was like, you know the work is still the work. no matter who's in leadership, right? the work still needs to be done. no matter who is in leadership. >> and so i really appreciated that because it helped like level that and be like you know it's there's so much work to do and and i think like only thing i wanted to yeah just thank you for bringing a youth here because i think it's so important to have them see and i like to exactly see it visually visualize it and i appreciate all the youth that showed up today.

so thank you. >> i appreciate you. gaynor she she advocated for me to get that that position over at mission neighborhood center that the procedure center when i first came home. >> so it's my family thank you so as a native san francisco and you can count on me as an ally and i tell volume people can't judge you by your cover people and said i look like a conservative boomer up here maybe but i am a much deeper i believe in building consensus. eddie chang is going to come speak soon and that's a whole nother recall when you're my brother, right? >> these are youth and your family gets naturalized and you could be deported. so that's a whole nother layer. i'm going to close out on something about birthright citizenship and love to show my film at your lounge. >> so i'm so glad that the youth are here because i grew up three years hill and then the twin peaks area so i'm in walking distance to juvenile

hall and so when we were young we used to donate our halloween candy there because you know my parents would say you can't forget about some of the kids who couldn't go trick or treating and dropped. so i've always had a heart of thinking about other people. >> it's great to talk about closing the center but i don't want this place to languish. and my thought process along with former commissioner andrew shorter and we sat on the commission on the status of women together. >> it's like what about if it became a safe center for training? there's basketball court and you know that comedians used to perform there but they were also counselors. but it also is and we recognize that every community needs a unique kind of outreach but the core goals are always there and so i still want to see it as a center of kind of cross-pollination but also because it's very centrally located, a great place for afterschool because all the busses go right by there. so that's my thought also you

know sometimes having officers training at the academy to go over to juvenile hall and see what can be done better so that the kids don't end up being involved in that justice system or for a long term. and so i know that i spoke with a police officer and i said do you have the scared straight program anymore? and they said it was too traumatizing so they didn't i'd like to see, you know, more prevention before someone gets deep into the center. >> well, we still have the squires program jarrett jack brings kids up to san quentin prison to have the president talk about and stuff like that and i'm like make referrals to that to the kids that should go . so we still got stuff going on but the support and help is definitely still needed so i'm just kind of putting this out there so that if the mayor's office is listening you should be a center strictly for the kids and you know a note to our public schools they i wish that they were more fiscally sound

but even the kids who have been in juvenile hall they're still your responsibility. i mean education as as member karen said is is really the key and i feel like i've been given so much i hate to use the word privilege. i'll say i'm fortunate i didn't say i grew up rich or anything but you know, i didn't feel the poverty so but we were always taught to give back to our community and it was the community at large. >> so i want to do that and i hope that you know, pullela and arnold townsend are looking down on us and smiling because as i look around, you know, some communities especially the black community has diminished to, you know, single digit percentages and so we don't have the same kind of diversity that i was lucky enough to grow up on and then we want to make sure that our public transportation is safe so that people can get around and experience different communities. so to all the youth out there i want to say it doesn't matter where you come from, it's where you're going. >> and so that is always my

motto definitely. >> and i have to say it matters where you come from. >> you are proud full of your home and your place. >> but i am yeah yeah i is both for both. >> yeah you can be proud but i don't want someone to judge someone from where they're from. >> it's where they're going so that to thank you so much and this is just you know the first time visit so now you know where we are and you have a connection and dan is very good at disseminating information for us so if you need us anywhere we also want you know, we want to engage in the community and typically it's in the fall. but you know, if you need help ramping up for, you know, your backpack, i guess you know, jeff actually can't take credit for the best backpacks or so i mean be mad you they do their thing but you know we you know we do our thing too but all the information is right here on the flier that i gave you right here on the bottom our website

our email, our instagrams. you can check out some of the stuff we were doing so we appreciate it. check out the website. lot of information, ways to donate resources that you can share with the community and all of the above. >> and then i don't know you know these programs aren't there anymore but i don't know if you remember sandy close she used to do youth outlook so she would go to juvenile hall and she would have people write the youth write screenplays and then there's also a magazine it was called yo exclamation point for youth outlook. >> yeah. and so that was an outlet to get people to get in touch with her thoughts and then make other people understand and so hopefully we can bring some of those kinds of programs back. remember palmer's going to talk more about counseling and people wanting counseling now because you know, back in the day especially for guys it's like oh, i don't want to talk to a counselor. i don't want to talk about my feelings and this is where we get into you know well not

feeling genuine and hurting themselves so leave it at that. >> yeah. thank young kids and you're welcome back. >> thank you guys. thank you. appreciate it. >> eight public comments at this time members of the public wishing to provide comments regarding a line item three presentation by damian posey are invited to approach the podium when it becomes available. mr. phil no, the only thing is it doesn't matter where you come from what matters is what you do. that's it. so what you do of where you come from, where you're going not what you do that is incredible but true. the only time i set foot in texas in march 2010 it was in single weather. >> it's so you were in stigler

unfortunately. so it was in that basement single of march 20th and you were there? i was with my wife a recording she's an artist with a famous producer over there. >> a larry bird is a black guy. you died unfortunately but we were producing an album for her in dallas but when we were in segovia in a small house i mean it was terrible that it bounces it's closed whether you don't want to say yes you can grow food in your center, grow food is excellent and grow food if some somebody says no, you can grow food, you you will know you are being used see as a trap it's a trap. don't fall in the traps don't be used. >> you have self-control self-control? yeah. it applies to everyone self-control then you say you know the future is about reconnecting ourselves with our fellow creatures all living spaces. >> it's awesome. everybody's going to love it. you see, you wouldn't steal it. imagine how much you could get

through donations. >> you create a system then you say okay, give me what you want. >> you will be amazed people would give you much better than if you put a price on it. this the future is like this no more this money crop. >> i know that and it's true it's it drives us to way i just destruction so i mean i'm with you and with everyone but it right on thank you. >> the next agenda item please column line item four board member report discussion board member william palmer shall present his recommendations regarding food and nutrition counseling services, urban gardening initiatives and additional programs aimed at enhancing both physical and mental well-being within the san francisco jails. >> i get to stand at a podium but i have to say you know i'm just kidding. >> i'm just kidding. i hear you. it's an honor to be here and to bring this item to the to the

floor. first i want to acknowledge that this is the month of ramadan and starting in march 1st and ends at the end of the month. not only do practicing muslims practice fasting for 30 days from sunup to sundown but many of our answers our helpers participate because they understand that nutrition value of it as well as the spiritual values of sacrifice. >> i also like to think digi office which is managed along pretty much not not minutes alone but headed by martial. i like to think she's due for send me to the menu and i like to thank my muslim brother for assisting me eunice in this presentation the san francisco jail just the same as the san francisco county jail food and nutrition presentation is so important. thanks dan you are alone and you don't even need me to say next slide anything you got. >> it is very important as

someone who spent 31 years in prison and more months in san francisco jail for several reasons the food is not to the level of sustaining good health is good. >> is there it'll keep you alive but we want more than that. next slide the current vendor aramark as you can see who's been extended to in october of this year gets paid close to $25 million to feed our jail population a salary. there's a lot of chatter put on your toes right? so we want to make sure that those dollars are spent not just to to to fulfill a contract but to have an impact on those who are digesting this food and using that food for

certain for for a living. >> i do believe that food next that we i do believe that food is more than just to fill the stomach and to to resolve starvation or anything. it's also food is also a holistic medicine when grown correctly and used correctly. and just to start off with the daily calorie intake at 25,000 that's a nice number but calories also depend on how active your heart 25 point is sorry about that 25 honey how active you are how hot or how inactive. >> as uncle damian said when he was in no lifting up those weights he needed more than 2500 calories for four men his size his age, his metabolism. >> it was probably closer to 3000 and up. so that gives you an idea

and then for women it's different. so we can't just have one standard of how many calories somebody needs. right. and understanding that and we also know that the age of our jails is a certain population so maybe, you know, we should look at that as well. >> next slide. i didn't get to put the entire menu in our slides because we'll be here for ever going down the list. one of the things that is missing on the slide but i wanted to take notice is a lot of peanut butter is served in these institutions and the grade of the peanut butter is not quality grade peanut butter and we already know that too much peanut butter calls a back . >> it's a backup in your system and when you're when your system is also digesting meat which is also served in our as well as other non vegetable and fruit plant based diet that

is what causes most of the disease in our body is what's left in your colon and your intestines. right and if you go to your doctor and you get your examination a clean cut is better for health. so we want to really understand that and you might be asking already like what this got to do with crime and punishment. right. and we're going to get to that also what you put in your mouth has a lot to do with your health. >> your first line of defense is right here as well as what comes out because you might get the taste slapped at your mouth right. so we want to make sure what we put in and what comes out right . so as you can see the samples of the large the breakfast, the lunch, the dinner you know, these are things that we probably are used to seeing on a tray whether you go to school and in our school system is design this on the same platform as prison. you ring a bell, you tell you what you said, sit in a room, have some artificial light. >> it's it's the same design

and that bell goes off. it's like time to move now you're being program and what are we program in same way inside of our prisons. bells are going off you're in a cell you you're told what to do that isn't conducive to really teaching someone how to live a better life. >> and i digress for a second after we get through the samples as you can see there is some variety and you might say there are some vegetables and there are some fruits being offered. one of the things i forgot to bring in in it's on me is that there is a 4 to 5 digit code on all fruits and vegetables. some start with three, four, five, six it goes up to nine nine using a five digit number. if anything doesn't have a nine starting on your four digit code it means it has some poison in it and is warning you is warning that it's pesticide, that the seeds aren't organic seeds they're not heirloom. are there are bioengineering going on in that food and if we

know anything about bioengineering anyone can put something in there that directs specifically to a certain person, a certain gender, a certain melanin count, anything can happen. so we want to be mindful when you go into your stores, your grocery stores go look for your health food section is in the corner is very small so if that's your health foods portion of your grocery store, what do you call the rest of the store if that's healthy and organic and natural that god created, what is the rest of this stuff poisoned is goes without being said right? so we want our stores to not only represent this, we want those who are being held captive and have no choice of what they eat to make sure that their organic, you know, servings are there. >> next slide, please. and this is what comes down to crime and punishment right here. first, everything doesn't have to be punished.

sometimes you just need to be taught and trained better. that isn't a punishment that should be just given right. but there are times where some people need to be punished and in detained and incarcerated. why is healthy ingredients better cost effective and beneficial for not only those that are residents in this place in these places but for us in society? as you can see the cost of organic may cost more and i went to the farmer's market right here in civic center on wednesdays i frequent there and i didn't really even ask them if their food was organic or not. >> i just assumed because it came from farmers but they said that they can't say is organic because it costs money just to say that and why are we charging our farmers money to say that their food is grown organic? we don't charge mcdonald's for their poison. is it is designed to raise the costs of good food so that the

rich can afford it but the poor goes to the liquor stores and buy something in plastic and cardboard. >> i have a problem with that when we're in incarcerated the bulk rate for organic farmers could decrease by 10 to 15% if we teamed up as a whole organization from the top of the north of california to the south to california and say we'll buy it as a whole and all that food that you're throwing away we can take that as well and that would decrease. so it goes like this is hitting on many points. it's not just talking about incarceration, the benefits with inmate behavior. when you eat good you feel good, you think good and you make better decisions when you put poison into your body whether it's in the form of liquids, whether it's a form of herbs, whether there's in form of packages that you get at your liquor stores, you are going to think what you eat, the medical bills we're going to get to that's not the

liabilities of the recidivism rate. >> let's go to the next slide because the medical bills and liability talks directly to this oh wait, here's a sample of a nutritious meal that looks a little bit better than the slide that we showed before that a lot of these a lot of these these samples, these these meals that are there are also already offered to people who have special diets, special religious diet of special health diets. >> so if they can get it, why can't everybody else get why would you serve a special diet that is healthy and beneficial to the ones who are requesting are needed but not give it to those who haven't reached that point of needing a healthy diet in order to survive you're feeding them something to get them to the point to where a doctor needs to say you need to change your diet. does that make any sense? next slide please look at this. this is the most important slide in the whole

presentation. the the difference between what we are serving and the organic menu that we could serve is minuscule and that can again be reduced when we are encouraging our farmers not only grow organic but to serve and to buy it for us. let's look at heart disease blood pressure and incident. >> you know how much that costs . i guarantee you it costs more than an organic menu. >> so if we want to lower the cost savings and the benefits and bring people out next slide please. dan and we want to bring and release people who are now a healthy consciousness. we have to feed into them a healthy consciousness. a better diet is a physi mentally healthier and well-adjusted person. i don't like the word inmate because that says sickness or maybe it does apply in this case because a lot of the people in there are sick and they're being fed poisoned

to keep them sick. the word prisoner means something different in the word convict me something different. but the word inmate is associate to hospitals healthier and healthier people lower society health care calls pre and post release well adjusted inmates reduce violence and lower recidivism reduce violence fewer injuries to staff and lower stress, lower recidivism better reintegration and safer communities. so we would actually take the job away from uncle damien because we won't need him no more. we'll be sending him out already now i'm just kidding. we always need you bro and jail farmer program. we've already duly our president has advocated for it again, if you could i'm sure my entire board members will advocate for that ideal farm program. those who are lower risk can go out there not only learn a skill but help supply the food that they too will eat when we do this even in our great schools or k-through-12 when they know where the food come

from, when they know what it should taste like when you grow it yourself they too will make healthier decisions instead of a wrapper they will get it from the earth, wash the dirt off and go on eat it right and so the local farm partnership lower food costs and boost local economy. we don't need a mayor. we don't need our economy a little bit boost it right. this is the part of it. next slide please. dan so that was the conclusion if you have any more comments, questions and comments please talk. but i think it's very self-explanatory after you've you've heard this presentation and will read it that the revolution that we really need to be focused on is our food revolution. there are billionaires that are buying up land to grow fake food saying fake news and there's a reason he went to africa to say that he was going to cure malaysia and other things. it didn't happen what he go there for. so we have to be conscious of

who's out there programing and introducing into our system poison and that's what it is where they comes in a wrapper where they come from looking like broccoli if it doesn't have that nine digit code on it, it's not good for you. and with that i have a lot more to say. >> but this is be the first round in food revolution and we there was a farming program at s.j. three previously so it's not going to be hard to bring it back up. and then i also wanted to point out that there's the fang family garden in the bayview and it was started by the fang family because there was a food desert and so we can replicate that where we went to elementary school at diamond heights elementary school is where the police academy is and that plot of land in front of them that they farm that land and it people from the community get to put in their names and then they get a little plot and then there's a similar plot in selma like a folsom and third and so that's for the senior center and they

take plots of land. >> so you know, it's something that we need to replicate and support and it doesn't necessarily cost a lot of money to do it and it reaps a lot of benefits because people get to eat the food, they get to eat healthier. and i just want to also point out it's not only that those incarcerated eat the food. >> it's also offered to staff and member palmer and i also we went to go walk through the kitchen tour with marshall kind of investigate her and chief joo and they it's a big operation and it's great for the people who get to work in there because they're learning job skills and when they get out they could actually work in a high functioning kitchen. but you see all the stuff that's kind of processed and frozen and so our inspector general said it tasted okay but you know, that's kind of like a little reservation and i looked at member palmer during the meeting. i'm like yeah, but day after day after day. so in no, no i mean broccoli

where there's a three, four, five, six, seven, 8 or 9 all tastes the same right are the orange or the papaya my favorite mango you know the watermelon juice that i drink it doesn't matter what numbers on it's going to taste and sometimes the bad taste better than the fresh because you're not even used to that right? so we can't go on what it tastes like. we have to know what the ingredients are and what we're putting it into our bodies and to have policy and law that forbids this there are other industrial countries and non industrial countries that don't allow the same things that are being sold to us even being shipped to their country. >> yeah and so i also like to spread sort of that asian ness as well and you know asians believe that food is medicine so your health is going to be what you put in your body and if you're a little off balance you eat a different food. but you know a medicine is not going to cure you because you

started off by putting the wrong body. >> so i'm going to turn to member afro mango. >> i just wanted to just comment to commissioner palmer i really like this is just so helpful. >> i didn't even realize that aramark had a 25 million budget for the year annually and i only wanted to comment on the fact that like if this is this chart with the cost of estimated cost per meal, right? it sounds like if i rounded up it'd be $6 per inmate roughly a day a day and based on aramark's annual budget right now it's $70 per day if i based it on a population of a thousand inmates which i think roughly is how much inmates are there. >> so i'm just saying that you would actually cut the costs by 40% if you went down a healthier meal versus a current i mean and that's just food alone not to the political services that are necessary

and i want to say that the food that that is being served in the county jail from experience most of it goes into the trash can because nobody wants to eat it. so then they go to the store and they buy something to eat and what they buy comes in plastic or cardboard and that's even worse than the food that they probably threw away because even if the food has pesticides and other things in it, there is some nutritional value to it. it just also contains poison instead of something that's in cardboard and in plastic which is 90% poison. um and then oh i thought you might be saying a word about counseling but we can leave that for another time. >> yeah, okay. we do that. any other questions or comments ? and i want to also point out aramark also services a lot of hospitals and i was on that st francis morial hospitalrd for 12 years and i look at some of the things and i think about

why people feel bad after they come out of surgery. it's because then they feed people apple juice and that just causes a glucose surge and then they have the dive so that just has always baffled me and i don't know if you i mean they say they're using nutritionists and dieticians but it's really hard to believe and so i like to kind of go back to the indigenous communities pacific islander asian because we look at food as medicine and the organization that is responsible for the food pyramid and the diabetes portion of it actually recommend a diet that causes diabetes. >> yeah i know, right? it doesn't even make sense that you think oh this guy has had to be like do your research as well as sugar especially refined white sugar that we love so much and that fruit toast crunch. >> yeah high fructose is one molecule away from cocaine. so not only is it an addictive

but unless i know something that you don't know i didn't know that cocaine was healthy for you has health benefits. well, i don't. >> maybe they should put it in coke. maybe. i don't know. uh, so we will have the director of jail health come next month or the month after so we can also you know, discuss this further with her. >> although it seems like all the different things are sort of siloed the food budget and then someone's going to say oh i don't have control over that. so my whole point is bringing all these issues up so everyone's at the table and we don't have any more excuses and we tackle these problems all together. >> and before i go to i want to say thank you to the doctor from alameda county institution. i won't say his name no where he works because i don't want to get him in trouble but we talked on the phone for quite a while of how food and that medicine that they do serve in

there impacts the residents and this is why i'm so passionate about what we're doing here is not an attack on the sheriff or the sheriff's office or the deputies or even aramark. you know, this is a national issue. this is a world issue food. >> this is a food revolution, food and clean water. yeah. yep. all right. >> public comment this year at this time members of the public should thank you. good afternoon again. i just want to concur with that report. thank you for that. while i was incarcerated there was a stint of time where i was experimenting with being a vegan pescatarian and all the only alternative they have for me was is bland, nasty tofu, peanut butter and cheese and i

ate that for like two years straight and it caused me to have like a lump in my stomach where they had to give me this stuff. i had a drink. it did dissolve like a ball in my stomach and i curly and bad and with type two diabetes i'm not going to say that directly from that but you know the you know you have the prison food and then you have the commissary food you know with the commissary food. i don't even think they regulate that at all at all. that might be some you want to look into, you know, but of course you know you we you are incarcerated so everything that's supposed to be great you're not supposed to be getting steaks and lobsters and all that kind of stuff but just basic human decency and especially at the the county jail level where you know you're still pending you know, not particularly, you know, guilty yet you haven't been found guilty of a crime so you still should be accessible to human basic, you know,

healthy needs and rights. and i know you guys are on top of that. so i just want to express that and thank you guys for i think you guys once again for for having us up here. >> thank you. thank you. got it, my friend. and bless you guys. only one thing, damien, before you go, the only problem i have you with your thing is your qr code. >> don't be used to use qr codes because it goes to our digital ideas. you don't want that. understand? get tweet of it. you have your address. it's enough. okay it's important for me goes okay so don't forget it's great because you go there are nobody i'm not specific that you have to be a manipulation of the weather so now of course they poisoned the food otherwise how can you be sick and for the pharmacy to if i was to be big money they want you as sick as possible and that's why it's

called a drugstore by the way so yeah with that's why so sky poisoning now you know nano dust don't you understand they're spraying all over all of them so it goes you eat it, you swallow aluminum nanoparticles, all of us your body is infected now the next shot is going to be to trigger the mythology within you. >> we are in big trouble. so you need to grow your food even though there's going to be a counterattack you it is going to strike both you and for sure we know who is behind it that sort of thing once it's linked to the silicon valley and such . >> so we have the engineer now think mosquitoes you know that so they are attacking our you know we know suppose was a little to preserve energy on the injured and injured species of birds are you talking now this fake mosquito reproduce in fact and the new generation is

other and so when they get you know you see they release them by the thousands in record daily they did in florida recently and texas is coming here to be tolerant so you grow your food, try to protect from any spray. it's going to be tough but at least so it's sort of the number nine i'm not sure anymore is they can figure number nine seeds. >> okay. so you have to really pay attention test i don't know. >> okay. i'm with you. yeah. revolution. yes, absolutely no choice peaceful as was us be swill as possible. it's going to be a challenge but i also want to i forgot to remind member palmer we had spoken to i forget her last name yolanda who handled some of the religious needs and food and what's shocking is that we don't have services in san

francisco anymore so she had to come all the way from the east bay or get some religious leaders so i think that that's mething that we can probably contact the san francisco interfaith council for. >> so just to take the lead on that, be a leader on that or do you want me to i could do it. >> okay. >> unfortunately i was not even scheduled to be here but i will be leaving on the ninth to egypt to finish the month of ramadan so when i get back yes . >> i just wanted to kind of remind you of that because we did have a conversation with her and we were kind of surprised that she struggled to find services for our jails here in san francisco. >> yeah. okay with that then next agenda item please call me line item five sheriff's department oversight board 2024 annual report discussion and passport action review discussion and potential action concerning the 2024 annual report which is to be submitted to the sheriff and the san francisco board of

supervisors in accordance with san francisco charter 4.1 37b6 we didn't have do with the print out or we don't do with a printout of a big one but i would like to just your photo yeah your highlights or no oh but this is just oh we do have more or maybe i'm missing it. >> it's two oh oh here we are. here we are. okay so i really want to thank member for mongo i placed even more responsibility on her this time and i'm being very intentional because i want to have good succession planning and make sure everyone gets a good experience and towards leadership because in my past life some of the other organizations i've led for 20 years probably won't do that here but i want everyone to just be able to highlight their best and remember also mongo does a lot of marketing and graphics and she also looks

to how we present information better so that the community can actually digest it. so we have our kind of legal obligations or obligations under the charter for the board of supervisors and the mayor and the sheriff. but then she also makes it look really nice adjustable so thank you member for mongo i think maybe just for the board i know i mean like the visual this is a supposed i literally just copy and paste it from this word doc so like if that's easier to read and like reference but basically i think they're just feedback is like if there's any errors errors or typos or suggestions for like the monthly themes those are things that i did on my own but i'm so happy to take feedback if you want to let me know now or via email this looks great i think i really like the formatting. it's very clear it's i definitely see an improvement. >> there is just one little

typo in my bio. >> it's after two years in the first sentence okay i'm going to but otherwise i have to say i mean props to you all great great work. okay so so why don't um if there's nothing substantive, why don't we say that if there are any just sort of scripting corrections add them to any scrivener's error? >> yeah. and dan will copy me and member for mongo and then i'll take one last look. i in my older age i'm a little less picky as i go. >> you had a period here and this bullet point but not here and i just you know we just want substance over form these days although i do notice that miss member palmer does use the harvard oxford comma which i do like. >> yeah. so so we so i think in general the contents are very solid and the presentation is solid

so um without rushing anyone if there's a motion to approve this annual report and then what i will do as i did last year is just put a cover letter on it from as from the president to the board and highlight particular things continue to bake for many reasons and make that move a motion to approve this stuff subject to any changes that may be non substantive scrivener errors. okay. >> do i have a second a second public comment? >> so at this time members of the public wishing to provide comments regarding line item five sheriff's department oversight board 2024 annual report are invited to approach the podium when it becomes available. there appears to be no public comment to date on the call on the road the motion to accept

the annual report subject to any subject to any non substantive or changes or scrivener errors. >> thank you member i flew i mingle i i feel mango as i member carry on i carry on as i member or tease i or teases i'm member palmer i summer is i president sue i sue is i there are five eyes and no nays the motion is approved and could good clip here yeah great. >> next agenda item please call in line item six evaluation of amendment to adobe rules of order discussion and possible action discussion and potential action under update s.w. as the old the rules of orders

specifically rule 1.14 and rule 1.14 b which were approved on may 3rd 2024 went to an agreement to reassess in six months. oh i guess we were going to show the line out but we we didn't hear but so colleagues we have reviewed this several times when we first approved these changes to the rules of order, we agreed to have a six month trial period and that six months has more elapsed and at the last meeting i think it was member member carrie and motion to just strike that one sentence in rule number 1.1 for a that says all items must be submitted before the close of business day at least 21 calendar days preceding a regular board meeting. so we were taking out the time frame and all remains the same

and this has been a double checked with our commission secretary dan leung and this was noticed as required ten days before we're entertaining this particular agenda item on move to adopt the current rules of order presented here today minus that one line as you had because it was in process. >> that's right minus the one line that i just outlined. that's correct. yes. >> thank you. do i have a second and second any public comments at this time? >> members of the public wishing to provide comments regarding a line item six evaluation of amendment to establish o b rules of order are invited to approach the podium when it becomes available. i'm not sure i should command this because i don't know who's the bill for.

>> okay so so i don't comment. okay. and if i mean on the call of the roll on the motion member i flew mango i i for mango as i member carry on i carry on as i'm member or team i teases i'm amber palmer i summer is i president soon i sue is i there are five eyes and zero nays the motion is approved following line item seven the future agenda items discussion and possible action suggestions for future agenda items. >> so colleagues i have noted for jail health and we expect doctor lisa pratt in a at a future meeting along with dr. hilary coonan's who heads up s.f. at the s.f. mental health initiative and although she

doesn't handle jail health per se, i think that populations overlap because what happens if someone had some mental health issues before being incarcerated but wasn't identified as being mentally incompetent and is still in jail but not getting treatment and then poster lisa are people getting adequate treatment and if they are no longer incarcerated where do they find the treatment? so that's part of it. and then i have noted from member carrie on the women's groups working with formally or incarcerated women and i wanted to also focus on maternal health for the women who are incarcerated. and then there's a group in l.a. that was honored by the chinese for affirmative action and founded by an african-american woman who was formerly incarcerated. and she's done a tremendous job doing outreach in southern california. but it's now been nationally

recognized. so like to get her if we can do it virtually and just to let member ortiz know i don't know if you watched the last meeting or the meeting before but we were able to get in touch with assembly member reggie joan sorry who recently termed out of the assembly and he's worked a lot on criminal justice reform and we asked him for money. we're always i feel like we should have a tin cup out there that's great but he we said you know $5 million is really the outlay for a proper part of an inspector general's office. so that would mean not only the inspector general but administrative assistant to investigators. and so his comment was that is just a state budget test. so i'm going to go with that and see and are inspector general terry wiley was very good at trying to go out and look for other funding. >> but i think that because we're efficient and because of the great help of marshall kind and just you know, nicole

armstrong and people just trying to get all of our resources together and how much progress we've made just in 13 to 15 months i think we have a good basis for asking for additional funding. >> so and then up next also we're going to try to get eddie chang. he travels quite a bit but william knows him. >> there's also particular films that maybe we could show have a community screening or or have individual members be able to screen some things. i think sometimes that's instructive but and then the other part is any suggestions that you have for presentation? we don't have a budget for training and i think for the newer members they'll be the 20 hours excuse me but i expressed to dan that i'm going to try to do kind of a table of contents because we've had additional training just through the meetings so we have auditing why it's important to segregate the administrative investigate

versus a criminal investigation of a law enforcement person and that firewall you need to have so that all you know lends to the constitutional training and then dan will solicit you for schedules so we can do onsite meetings and that just the hands on really informs us of what we do and but you've already done a lot of the work in another capacity and then we would also welcome if you'd like to make a presentation on your kind of work that education part the counseling part so anything else from my members you're packed up too quickly your all right. >> all right. i y know i always get nervous when i have i think too much on the agenda and it looks like you're in a good clip here so with that we can go to general public comment, do public comment on this line item pass. >> so at this time members of

the public wishing to provide comments regarding line item seven future agenda items are invited to approach the podium when it becomes available so the future item an idea or so you try to locate i mean local farmers in each chance from buying basic fruits and veggies from them for the jobs you require them to teach the inmates how to grow food. see that's a deal. >> so you got to go and i mean he wants these guys get out of jail. they work with the local farmers. get it? you avoid these strictures. it's an example you can introduce that i don't know because they're going to be we don't want this but you folks you ask why you you don't want us to grow food. >> it seems why you want us that maybe why because you are so an intelligence that you

think that you can control the world and exercise etc. we are so thank you. thank you. and i just also want to close out the meeting by wishing those who celebrate ramadan happy ramadan and also this is the month of the united states versus wong kim our case the birthright citizenship case. the us supreme court handed down the decision march 28th, 1898 and so most of us here get to say that we're citizens because we were born on u.s. soil. that is always a threat and we will be having i think film screenings. i got contacted by commissioner alan low. i think they're going to do a week long kind of celebration of united states versus wong kim ark. >> so just to remind everybody we're kind of like all in this all together. and so what was amazing about the film that i got to work on

is i got to work with the great great granddaughter of dred and harriet scott. >> so the film name is really long. i wasn't the producer so i didn't name it but you can also find out on kanopy. so for those of you who have a library card you can log on to kanopy but it's called the 14 dred scott wang k mark and vanessa lopez. so we go from the reason of the 14th amendment and the interpretation to birthright citizenship and then vanessa lopez she was in fifth grade at the time i think she's a college graduate by now. yeah. and then her family and her mom who came as a child with her grandparents and they were undocumented. so talking about dreamers as well and and their contribution so i think it's worth the discussion and hopefully with our little fights we just make everything a little bit better and the proper greeting for this month is ramadan mubarak and you can either say that back or you can say ramadan. >> kareem one more time. ramadan mobile eric and ramadan

kareem thank you. call in line number eight general public comment at this moment members of the public are invited to speak to the board for a duration of up to two minutes regarding matters that were not included in this afternoon's agenda but fall within the jurisdiction of the sheriff's department oversight board during this public comment period neither serve personnel nor board members are obligated to answer questions posed by the public although they may offer a brief response that they chose to do so if you wish to provide public comment please approach the podium when it becomes available. please remember that you have a maximum of two minutes to express your comments. so in the name of the sheriff we're going to be they said let's go back to what i said earlier on this gathering organize the gathering of stand up for science. >> no, you stand up for the truth first. >> if you don't say that, it means you are fake. >> that's why you should do not address the problem of weather

manipulation of food poisoning. >> it means you are faked so now we know you are fake. >> that's why you can fake it. you can fake beauty, you can fetch anything. >> it doesn't work. we are dealing with extreme unintelligent so from the top parasites that makes civilization collapse because after that it trickles down to a lot of parasites. >> it's too many parasites. >> okay, so i think you understood that even though my mission is from this case it's not a joke. i got it through two years ago precisely unless i worked middle up on down so not bottom up because it's too high or up on top but some doesn't work. >> you would never listen. you are the middle see that's why i'm working with you a down you able to this none that's all we do because at the end of i mean during the evolution but to achieve what's you going to

have just the middle the top of the pyramid because it's too heavy is going to cave in this is like truth is physics. so we have to make sure that the middle is solid. >> it's not a philosophy. no, it's not. >> it's actually science a physical science. >> okay. see you later. i see you next. no, next months are begun by three months you won't see me for at least three months. >> i'm sorry, but maybe i'll give you a call. >> i'll be out of the country. i need to inspect. >> all the usa are doing is like what the heck? remember what fake wildfires and fake attacks. thank you. you calling line item nine a german action item. >> all those in favor i i any needs meeting is adjourned at four £0.11 no nay. >> all right good

>> i don't want to be involved in the process after it happens. i want to be there at the front end to help people with something in my mind from a very early age. our community is the important way to look at things, even now. george floyd was huge. it opened up wounds and a discussion on something festering for a long time. before rodney king. you can look at all the instances where there are calls for change. i think we are involved in change right now in this moment that is going to be long

lasting. it is very challenging. i was the victim of a crime when i was in middle school. some kids at recess came around at pe class and came to the locker room and tried to steal my watch and physically assaulted me. the officer that helped afterwards went out of his way to check the time to see how i was. that is the kind of work, the kind of perspective i like to have in our sheriff's office regardless of circumstance. that influenced me a lot. some of the storefronts have changed. what is mys is that i still see some things that trigger memories. the barbershop and the shoe store is another one that i remember buying shoestrings and getting my dad's old army boots fixed. we would see movies after the

first run. my brother and i would go there. it is nice. if you keep walking down sacramento. the nice think about the city it takes you to japan town. that is where my grandparents were brought up. that is the traditional foods or movies. they were able to celebrate the culture in that community. my family also had a dry-cleaning business. very hard work. the family grew up with apartments above the business. we have a built-in work force. 19 had 1 as -- 1941 as soon as that happened the entire community was fixed. >> determined to do the job as democracy should with real consideration for the people involved. >> the decision to take every one of japan niece american o

japanese from their homes. my family went to the mountains and experienced winter and summer and springs. they tried to make their home a home. the community came together to share. they tried to infuse each home are little things. they created things. i remember my grand mother saying they were very scared. they were worried. they also felt the great sense of pride. >> japanese americans. >> my granduncle joined the 442nd. when the opportunity came when the time that was not right.

they were in the campaign in italy. they were there every step of the way. >> president truman pays tribute. >> that was the most decorated unit in the history of the united states army. commitment and loyal to to the country despite that their families were in the camp at that time. they chose to come back to san francisco even after all of that. my father was a civil servant as well and served the state of california workers' compensation attorney and judge and appellate board. my parents influenced me to look at civil service s.i applied to police, and sheriff's department at the same time. the sheriff's department grabbed me first. it was unique.

it was not just me in that moment it was everyone. it wasn't me looking at the crowd. it was all of us being together. i was standing there alone. i felt everyone standing next to me. the only way to describe it. it is not about me. it is from my father. my father couldn't be there. he was sick. the first person i saw was him. i still sometimes am surprised by the fact i see my name as the sheriff. i am happy to be in the position i am in to honor their memory doing what i am doing now to help the larger comment. when i say that we want to be especially focused on marginalized communities that have been wronged.

coming from my background and my family experienced what they did. that didn't happen in a vacuum. it was a decision made by the government. nobody raised their voice. now, i think we are in a better place as country and community. when we see something wrong we have change agents step up to help the community affected. that is a important thing to continue to do. you talk about change and being a leader in change and not knowing whether you have successes or results. the fact of the matter is by choosing to push for change you have already changed things. through inspiration for others, take up the matter or whether it is through actual functional change as a result of your voice being heard. i think you have already started on a path to change by choosing that path. in doing that in april of itself

creates change. i continue in that type of service for my family. something i hope to see in my children. i have a pretty good chance with five children one will go into some sort of civil service. i hope that happens to continue that legacy. >> i am paul, sheriff of san francisco. [ music ]

>> in the bay area as a whole, thinking about environmental sustainability. we have been a leader in the country across industries in terms of what you can do and we have a learn approach. that is what allows us to be successful. >> what's wonderful is you have so many people who come here and they are what i call policy innovators and whether it's banning plastic bags, recycling,

composting, all the different things that we can do to improve the environment. we really champion. we are at recycle central, a large recycle fail on san francisco pier 96. every day the neighborhood trucks that pick up recycling from the blue bins bring 50 # o tons of bottles, cans and paper here to this facility and unload it. and inside recology, san francisco's recycling company, they sort that into aluminum cans, glass cans, and different type of plastic. san francisco is making efforts to send less materials to the landfill and give more materials for recycling. other cities are observing this and are envious of san

francisco's robust recycling program. it is good for the environment. but there is a lot of low quality plastics and junk plastics and candy wrappers and is difficult to recycle that. it is low quality material. in most cities that goes to landfill. >> looking at the plastics industry, the oil industry is the main producer of blastics. and as we have been trying to phase out fossil fuels and the transfer stream, this is the fossil fuels and that plastic isn't recycled and goes into the waste stream and the landfill and unfortunately in the ocean. with the stairry step there will be more plastic in the ocean than fish. >> we can recycle again and again and again. but plastic, maybe you can recycle it once, maybe.

and that, even that process it downgrades into a lower quality material. >> it is cheaper for the oil industry to create new plastics and so they have been producing more and more plastics so with our ab793, we have a bill that really has a goal of getting our beverage bottles to be made of more recycled content so by the time 2030 rolls around t recycle content in a coke bottle, pepsi bottle, water bottle, will be up to 50% which is higher thatten the percentage in the european union and the highest percentage in the world. and that way you can actually feel confident that what you're drinking will actually become recycled. now, our recommendation is don't use to plastic bottle to begin w but if you do, they are committing to 50% recycled content. >> the test thing we can do is vote with our consumer dollars

when we're shopping. if you can die something with no packaging and find loose fruits and vegetables, that is the best. find in packaging and glass, metal and pap rer all easily recycled. we don't want plastic. we want less plastic. awe what you we do locally is we have the program to think disposable and work one on one to provide technical assistance to swap out the disposable food service to reusables and we have funding available to support businesses to do that so that is a way to get them off there. and i believe now is the time we will see a lot of the solutions come on the market and come on the scene. >> and is really logistics company and what we offer to restaurants is reasonable containers that they can order

just like they would so we came from about a pain point that a lot of customers feel which wills a lot of waste with takeout and deliver, even transitioning from styrofoam to plastic, it is still wasteful. and to dream about reusing this one to be re-implemented and cost delivery and food takeout. we didn't have throwaway culture always. most people used to get delivered to people's homes and then the empty milk containers were put back out when fresh milk came. customers are so excited that we have this available in our restaurant and came back and asked and were so excited about it and rolled it out as customers gain awareness understanding what it is and how it works and how they can

integrate it into their life. >> and they have always done it and usually that is a way of being sustainable and long-term change to what makes good financial sense especially as there are shipping issues and material issues and we see that will potentially be a way that we can save money as well. and so i think making that case to other restaurateurs will really help people adopt this. >> one restaurant we converted 2,000 packages and the impact and impact they have in the community with one switch.

and we have been really encouraged to see more and more restaurants cooperate this. we are big fans of what re-ecology does in terms of adopting new systems and understanding why the current system is broken. when people come to the facility, they are shocked by how much waste they see and the volume of the operations and how much technology we have dedicated to sort correctly and we led 25 tours and for students to reach about 1100 students. and they wanted to make change and this is sorting in the waste stream they do every single day

and they can take ownership of and make a difference with. >> an i feel very, very fortunate that i get to represent san francisco in the legislature and allows me to push the envelope and it is because of the people the city attracts and is because of the eco system of policy thinking that goes on in san francisco that we are constantly seeing san francisco leading the way. >> kids know there's a lot of environmental issues that they are facing. and that they will be impacted by the impact of climate change. they will have the opportunity to be in charge and make change and make the decisions in the future. >> we are re-inventing the way the planet does garbage founded in the environmental ethic and hunger to send less to landfills. this is so many wonderful things happening in san francisco.

i feel very fortunate and very humble to live here and to be part of this wonderful place.

>> making to may grandkids a program all about pop ups, artists, non profits small business in into vacant downtown throughout the area for a three to 6 months engagement. >> i think san francisco is really bright and i wanted to be a part of it revitalization.

>> i'm hillary, the owner of [indiscernible] pizza. vacant and vibrant got into safe downtown we never could have gotten into pre-pandemic. we thought about opening downtown but couldn't afford it and a landlord [indiscernible] this was a awesome opportunity for us to get our foot in here. >> the agency is the marriage between a conventional art gallery and fine art agency. i'm victor gonzalez the founder of gcs agency. thes program is especially important for small business because it extended huge life line of resources, but also expertise from the people that

have gathered around the vacant to vibrant program. it is allowed small businesses to pop up in spaces that have previously been fully unaccessible or just out of budget. vacant to vibrant was funded by a grant from the office of economic workforce development that was part of the mayor's economic recovery budget last year so we funded our non profit partners new deal who managed the process getting folks into these spaces. >> [indiscernible] have been tireless for all of us down here and it has been incredible. certainly never seen the kind of assistance from the city that vacant to vibrant has given us, for sure. >> vacant to ibvooerant is a important program because it just has the opportunity to

build excitement what downtown could be. it is change the narrative talking about ground floor vacancy and office vacancy to talking about the amazing network of small scale entrepreneur, [indiscernible] >> this is a huge opportunity that is really happy about because it has given me space to showcase all the work i have been doing over the past few years, to have a space i can call my own for a extended period of time has been, i mean, it is incredible. >> big reason why i do this is specific to empower artist. there are a lot of people in san francisco that have really great ideas that have the work ethics, they just don't have those opportunities presented, so this has been huge lifeline i think for entrepreneurs and small businesses. >> this was a great program for us. it has [indiscernible] opening the site.

we benefited from it and i think because there is diverse and different [indiscernible] able to be down here that everybody kind of benefits from it. . >> thank you all for being here. this is a great day. you all good? good. okay great. from our first day in office public safety has been our number one priority