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good morning. captured. an american soldier gone missing in afghanistan surfaces in a hostage-style video released by the taliban. critical condition. president obama in an uphill battle with congress to save his health care plan as he marks his first six months in office. and payback. when the airline that wronged him refuses to pay, a musician gets revenge through song. ♪ i should have flown with someone else ♪ ♪ or gone by car >> now he's a viral video star and the airline is singing a different tune "today," sunday, and the airline is singing a different tune "today," sunday, july 19th, 2009. captions paid for by nbc-universal television
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welcome to "today" on this sunday morning. i'm jenna wolfe. >> i'm carl quintanilla, sitting in for lester holt. anyone who's ever had a bad experience flying is going to love this vie value video story. >> this is a great story. this is actually a great story. this guy who lost his guitar is kind of making out in the end. >> 3 million hits on youtube. the song is called "united breaks guitars." >> it is a little catchy. speaking of the airline, the tough economy is forcing them to slash fares. there are eye-popping deals out there. beaware, there could be a catch. much more of what you need to know about that coming up. we're calling it a very, very modern love story. we'll meet a woman who found the man she's going to marry by typing her own name into a search engine. it is an adorable love story
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that you've want to hear. we've all done it, we type our names. >> really? you've searched jenna wolfe? >> come on! you just admitted you searched carl quintanilla. first to our top story, the american soldier apparently captured by the taliban in afghanistan. now seen and heard on video. nbc pentagon's correspondent jim miklaszewski joins us from washington with all the latest details. mick, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carl. u.s. military officials this morning do confirm that the american on this videotape is the u.s. soldier who mysteriously went missing in afghanistan three weeks ago. believed captured by the taliban. as you can see, in this video, the soldier appears to be in relatively good shape. out of his army uniform wearing traditional taliban dress. what's disturbing though is what he says on the tape. he says he's scared, scared he will not be able to go home. then the soldier makes a plea to bring all american troops home. but he's clearly under duress. in fact, on the video itself, you can hear his captors in the
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background prompting him about what to say. >> in the message to your people? >> yes. to my fellow americans who have loved ones over here who know what it's like to miss them, you have the power to make our government bring them home. please, please bring us home so that we can be back where we belong and not over here wasting our time and our lives. >> reporter: u.s. officials are condemning this video saying the soldier's being used for propaganda purposes. as of now, we're not releasing the soldier's name at the request of the family and the military over concerns for his safety. carl? >> mick, do we know anything about who might be holding this soldier? >> well, it's believed that one branch or another of the afghanistan taliban is holding
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him. but military officials aren't sure for certain and there is an intensive manhunt under way in that eastern region of afghanistan where he disappeared. >> jim miklaszewski in washington, thank you for that. now here's jenna. another milestone is approaching for the president. tomorrow it will be six months since barack obama was sworn in to office. now after taking on the economy and the auto industry, the president is embroiled in one of the toughest fights so far in his presidency over health care reform. here to talk about this, is david gregory, moderator of "meet the press." david, good morning. >> morning, jenna. >> start with foreign policy. the president ordered 21,000 additional troops to afghanistan. that brings the total now to 60,000, and growing. with this latest video and the ruer is against of t er ir i erw it promises to get bigger. unfortunately a soldier like this taken as a hostage becomes a new face for war effort that a
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lot of americans are disconnected from a lot of time. we do have a renewed commitment to afghanistan. it is a very difficult challenge for the country, for our soldiers and for this policy. it's one that is experiencing what some observers on all sides say is mission creep. you have a developing mission there with more troops and a call, senator mccain on this program last week, saying there should be yet additional troops because of how difficult the fight is with the taliban. >> another big issue on the president's plate, health care reform. a lot of nervousness in congress right now, even nong some democrats that the white house is rushing through this health care reform. any sense of that? is there a happy medium here along the way? >> it is difficult to see right now. the president wants these bills done. one from the house, one from the senate. they can be reconciled later but he wants it passed before congress adjourns for august. it is going to be difficult. you have some moderates saying we don't want to be pressed that hard. a lot of concerns about the overall costs of this, about the taxes that are being talked about to pay for it. about the overall quality of
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care that would come out on the other end. this isn't bipartisan. republicans are not prepared to support this right now. there are a lot of challenges. the president is in full campaign mode trying to sell this here to the very end. >> tomorrow marks the president's six-month anniversary in office. how would you grade him, at least based on his own expectations thus far? >> well, others will grade him but the reality is it is going to come down to the economy, it is going to come down to jobs. that's still a very difficult issue right mao for this president. unemployment rate at 9.5%. really is much higher if you think about people who are not working full time, though they'd like to, or people who are still looking for work but are not officially unemployed. it is a tremendous challenge. the white house knows it. they know that's how they will be judged and it all feeds together. if the president can't accomplish something tangible on the economy, if he can't achieve what is really his highest goal of health care reform, it is going to be a real blow. >> that leads me to my question. there appears to be some concern that the president's popularity
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is waning. even democrats are growing concerned that his economic plans aren't really living up to their benefit. do you think the economy will actually hurt his reputation, not just among americans but for congress as well? >> there is not a lot of time. the president said this weeks he owns the economy if he wants it. the time has passed where he could lay this off on his predecessor, president bush. he's directed a great deal of government spending to try to get ahold of the economy. so performance is what matters. but say this for the president. americans, you look at all the polls, still have a lot of confidence and faith in him as a leader to tackle these problems, even more so than popularity for the programs themselves. that's what he's still banking on right now. >> what's coming up on "meet the press"? >> we'll be on top of the health care debate. the point person on the issue, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius, and the view from the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell. >> david gregory, thank you. time for some of the morning's other headlines. we turn to tamron hall over at the news desk. morning, tamron. good morning, everyone.
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we get things started in san francisco where investigators are trying to determine what caused two light rail trains to crash. one train barreled into another that was unloading passengers. authorities are investigating mechanical and human errors as possible causes of the collision. 48 people were injured in the accident. four of them seriously. a tennessee man is under arrest charged with killing six people all believed to be from the very same family. five victims, including two children, were found dead in two neighboring homes in fayetteville, tennessee. a sixth body was found 30 miles away in huntsville, alabama. police have charged 30-year-old jacob shafer and are looking for a motive. 65 high school students on a trip to china are under quarantine this morning after one of them was hospitalized with swine flu. the students from st. mary's school in oregon are being held in a beijing hotel until wednesday. teenagers left home earlier this week for a language and culture camp sponsored by the chinese
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government. funeral services for walter cronkite will be held thursday in new york city. the 92-year-old former cbs anchorman died friday after a long illness. cronkite will be laid to rest next to his late wife in kansas city, missouri. finally, golfer tom watson chasing history. the 59-year-old is leading after three days of play at the british open. watson is now 18 holes away from becoming the oldest major champion in history. watson's last major victory -- 26 years ago. but who's counting? because this one will count so much for him. 59 years old, old in golf. thought it was an old man's game. that's the news. now back to jenna and carl. i thought old guys like to play it because you don't run. >> it's called the majors. >> they just go on the weekends with their buddies. >> they asked him do you want to pitch yourself? he said,
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>> now here's carl. if you've been putting off making travel plans for late summer and fall, you're about to get a lot more temptation. the tough economy has airlines, hotels an resorts rolling out the red carpet for travelers. here's nbc's tom costello. >> reporter: for the airline and travel industry, summer 2009 is shaping up to be a bit of a washout. with little optimism that business will pick up in the fall, hotels, resorts and airlines are discounting prices to levels we haven't seen in 13 years. >> it's going to be a wild and crazy run for the airlines. they're still losing their shirts. and they still got to fill up those planes. >> reporter: if you're traveling between august 18 and november 28, there are 12 cities with flights to las vegas for just $98 round trip. 11 cities to chicago for $98. and 40 cities to
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baltimore-washington's bwi for $98. to europe? dallas to rome drops from $1,500 to $740 as of mid-august. chicago to paris, drops from $1,150 to $460. los angeles to barcelona, from $1,209 to $609. why in august? >> that's when everybody in america has to either go back to work, kids are going back to school, family travel's over. the only folks out there, there may be some retirees -- >> reporter: but already hotels are offering deep discounts now at some of the country's top destinations. among the deals on travelzoo.com, $49 at a resort in las vegas. $109 in miami. $109 in honolulu at the waikiki sheraton. all reflecting america's new economic reality. >> with unemployment expected to go higher for at least the next six months or so, people tend to
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cut first from the vacation fund. fun fund, if you will. >> reporter: the great recession of 2009 also offering unprecedented chances for a great escape. for "today," tom costello, nbc news, washington. >> here with more on how to take advantage of some of these new airfare deals, an associate editor at "travel & leisure" magazine. sarah, good morning. $39 one way? that's a tank of gas! that's cab fare here in new york. have you ever seen anything like this? >> experts have been talking about travel deals for months now but this is really unprecedented. there are incredible deals for this summer. we are looking at deals into the fall and even in the winter. if you're looking for holiday travel, if you're a ski bum, you should consider booking now. it's like as though the sky's are on sale. >> normally this happens in the fall when everybody goes back to school and travel is mostly retirees. but just happening earlier when you would think people are traveling for summer. talk about some of the deals and where people are going to find them over the next days and weeks. >> if you're a flexible
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traveler, if you're looking to plan ahead, farecompare.com is a great website where you can compare flights from different airlines. airfarewalsh dog d airfarewatchdog.com, they'll send you e-mails deals. bing.com/travel, if you're looking for guidance on when to book your flight. >> everybody who's bought a good fare knows there is all sorts of fine print and restrictions. how do you find out about the little tiny print? >> it is very important to keep in mind that every deal is different. look closely at the deal you are looking at. go to the airline websites, do your homework, do your research. because as i said, every deal is different. >> how do you separate the good deals from the bad? is there a way to look at fares where the blackout dates aren't going to affect you, for instance? that kind of thing? >> of course. keep in mind that a lot of these deals have deadlines.
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mechani mexicana airlines, a great deal from chicago to cancun but you have to book by august 9th. another great fare, jetblue, if you're flying from boston to san francisco, $149 one way but you have to fly on tuesday and wednesday. something to keep in mind. these off days are really great travel. they're often really great travel deals for off days. >> people wonder, well, if i buy now, am i going to see even better deals down the road. would i have saved more money if i had waited. how do you work around that? >> when you use websites, everybody often feels very anxious about getting a better deal down the road. use orbitz. they offer those great price assurance programs where if a customer will buy your same ticket for less money down the road, they'll issue you a refund. six, eight weeks you get a check in the mail. if you are feeling nervous, orbitz' price assurance is a great way to go. >> you can't lose on the orbitz deal. if you want to travel starting now, what about last-minute deals? >> lastminute.com is a great website if you're looking for
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last minute deals. this week i found from new york to boston, $217 in early august for two nights. that includes round trip airfare and hotels. really incredible. of course, travel and leisure.com publishes hot deals every week. that's the place to go if you're looking for last-minute deals. >> do you think this will continue into the fall, into christmas or will we be back to the status quo once the summer's over? >> nobody can anticipate how things are going to do but it is so incredible now, i would say travel if you can. there is so much to see, there is so much excitement. everybody's trying to get you in the air so take advantage. >> sarah, thanks so much. coming up next on "today," how one man settles his complaint with an airline on youtube. right after this. ♪ you broke it you should fix it ♪ ♪ you might as well just admit it ♪
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if you've ever tangled with an airline over missing or damaged luggage, getting paid back is nearly impossible. but one musician with a damaged guitar and ingenuity found a great way to get his revenge. dave carroll is here to tell you how he did it. good morning, dave. tell me how this all started. it is last spring, you're on this spring. you check your guitar. you're flying with your band. you look out the window an tell me what happens. >> flying united from halifax to nebraska. we stopped in chicago, were deplaning to catch our connection. a woman who didn't know we were musicians sitting behind me said, oh, my god!
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they're throwing guitars outside. we we we looked out the window and saw them throwing our base guitar. >> there's nothing you can do when you are sitting on the plane. you get off, exchange a couple e-mails with the airlines. nothing really happens. you don't get the answers you're looking for so you decide you're going to vent your frustrations through a song on youtube. i want to play a little bit of it, we'll ask you about it afterwards. >> sure. ♪ united you broke my taylor guitar ♪ ♪ united united some big help you are ♪ ♪ you broke it you should fix it ♪ ♪ you're liable just admit it >> david, i don't really get the sombrero rows but we'll save that for another time.
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my question, why write a song? why mott sue or take the fight further? >> it occurred to me that i have certain skills and there are things that i do. suing isn't an option. i'm not a lawyer. i was tired of fighting. i don't really like confrontation in that way. so i thought, if i were -- if michael moore were a singer song writers, what would he do? the answer to me came in the form of three songs. >> well, this first song was a huge hit. 3.2 million hits so far just this week. are you surprised by how popular this has become? >> i'm shocked at the numbers but i'm even more shocked at the enthusiasm behind it. this song has now been rated and so many comments and it's the highest rated music download video of all time on youtube. no one could have predicted that at all. >> united did finally offer to pay you your money back. you said why don't you give that money to charity but they issued this statement. this has struck a chord with us. dave's excellent video provides
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us with something we will use in frang to ensure all customers receive better service from us. we transport thousands of checked bags each day and what regretfully happened is an anomaly and something we are very sorry for. can't wait to sing a happy tune with dave. are you satisfied by all this, dave? >> this wasn't ever about compensation. i gave up on that back in november. so i was appreciative of the offer. but -- i'm glad that a charity got $3,000. but this isn't about compensation. i've already recorded song two and with any luck we'd be able to debut it in new york on the "today" show weekday edition. >> nothing like advertising for yourself, dave. we loved the first song. dave carroll, thanks for being with us. we'll be right back but first these messages. for memory walk. [ man ] you invite three people. [ woman ] and they'll invite three people. and before you know it, you have a team. more than 5 million americans... may not be able to stop the progression of alzheimer's. but we can.
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live, local, late breaking. this is wbal tv news today in baltimore. >> good morning. here's a look of some top stores this morning. fred and customers gathered to remember a 57 year-old liquor store owner, who was shot and killed thursday night. according to police, nothing was stolen from the store.
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>> i read all the articles i could find, and every article said that they were not sure if anything was stolen. but those articles are wrong. what they stole something from all of us here. they stalled something from the community, they stole something from the employees, friends, and family. >> a man opened the store 15 years ago. customers remember him as a generous man. a fire that killed a 5-year-old prince george's county boy is an accident. investigators said the father left food cooking on the stove, his 5 and 7 year old sons or inside the apartment at the time. >> there was food on the stove that burned itself out by the time firefighters arrived, but generated a tremendous amount of stock mo.
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>> the five year-old died a short time later at the hospital. the seven year old is now in critical condition. the father is recovering from the smoke. dr. joseph -- were shot and killed in may. police say was a botched robbery. police have not many -- made any arrests in the case. stay with us. we will check yourpa
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watch this line right here, that is a stationary front that will become our problem by the middle of the week. we could use some rain. july has been dry. 71 in baltimore, 66 at hagerstown. today, 82-87 degrees. if if you like yesterday, you will be a big fan of today's a weather. temperatures are in the low 80s with a chance of storms on monday. that each one of these days is not a wash out. we will see a few light rain showers, temperatures and the mid '80s by friday with thunderstorms next saturday. >> thank you for joining us.
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we are back on this sunday morning, july 19th, 2009. a happy crowd with some amaze ing waving out on the plaza. great to see you guys. i'm carl quintanilla, in for lester holt, along side jenna wolfe. still to come this morning, a unique love story. >> here's what happened. evelyn's getting on facebook now, looking up all your old friends and names. this girl types in her own name just to see what she would find. believe me, she found someone with her exact name who was a boy. her name is kelly. we'll talk about the two kellies. they'll join us live, tell us how they met each other, how they found love without changing their names at all. it is amazing love story but only in modern day times. this would not be happening 15 years ago.
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we'll get the flip side of that, which is the love story in this digital age. the new trend of getting dumped by a text message, e-mails, even facebook status updates which everyone can see right away. we'll find out what's behind it and how to keep it from happening to you. >> i know you're married but have you ever broken up with someone via e-mail? >> no, it's been generally a phone call. or have a friend do it. >> oh, that's good. i wish i could say the same thing. we've got some very interesting guests in our studio. boyd matson has been everyone. he's the host of "wild chronicles." this morning he'll tell us about his most recent adventure. he finally brought us a little trinket from his trip. he's got a llama. his bangs are too long! maybe a trim? these guys are from peru. we'll find out more coming up. but first a check of the
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news with tamron inside. good morning, everyone. we have new video of an american soldier captured in afghanistan. it surfaced from the taliban. official say the soldier went missing june 30th. at the family's request his name is not being released right now. the military says they are doing everything to secure this young soldier's release. pope benedict xvi may be wearing a cast but it won't stop him from blessing the faithful today. the pontiff greeted well-wisher in northern italy at his first public appearance since his surgery. pope fractured his wrist while on vacation after a fall in the italian alps. a big weekend for shuttle astronauts. astronauts installed a porch for science experiments at the international space station's $1 billion lab. finally, tomorrow marks the 40th anniversary of apollo 11's historic lunar landing. it was on july 20th, 1969,
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many other kelly hildebrands are on facebook. she found a young man named kelly hildebrand, sent him a message and the rest is history. kelly and kelly hildebrand join us now from coral springs, florida. good morning, you guys. >> good morning. >> so how do i defer between the two of you? what do i call each of you? should i call you mr. kelly, miss kelly? >> usually i'm kelly girl, he's gelly boy or kelly. >> so kelly girl, let me start with you. i want o ask a very important question first. you guys are set to be married. if you do get married will you be taking your husband's name or will it had be hyphen natuated? >> you don't want a kelly hildebrand-hildebrand? >> no. yeah. >> we thought with the hildebrand scarquared but proba not that way either. >> kelly girl, take me back to
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last year. you do a search on facebook, put your own name in. you get this kelly's name and you decide to write him a message. what did you write to him? >> i just told him that we -- i saw that we had the same name and i thought it was kind of cool and i just wanted to say hi. it was a sentence, the whole thing was only one sentence. >> other kelly, what was your reaction when you saw this e-mail? >> well, i thought she was pretty cute and i was like, hey, there's another kelly hildebrand in the world. i had done a search on facebook a couple years ago and she didn't show up and so it kind of surprised me to see her on there. >> so one thing leads it another, you guys communicate, have you a long distance relationship for a while. then boy kelly, you decide you're going to go visit girl kelly. are your friends and family thinking, dude, what are you doing here? you hardly know this person. was it a little shocking to
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them? >> a little bit. but i'm kind of action type person so they weren't too surprised. and then once they met her, she could understand. so it was all right. >> now i understand with the whole name situation, there's a lot of confusion. you get confused with your mail obviously because you have the same name. and miss kelly, girl kelly, you recently took a cruise and there was an issue as well you have. can you tell us about that? >> yeah. kelly booked us a cruise through his company and they almost dlee deleted one of our tickets because they thought it was a typo, that there was -- that they put in two of one person. but it was both of us. kelly had to call and explain to them that there was two people with the same name. >> well i don't like to give advice out on the show but if i had to give you guys advice i said if you get married and have kids, please don't name them kelly. it is going to make it so much more confusing. >> we're not going to.
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back. >> let's go. >> i got him right up ahead. >> the show's co-creators and executive producers are here. good morning to both of you. congratulations on a topic that's fascinating, because there are a lot of people out there had are accused of doing some very bad things. they're living free. there is an equal number of people either trying to get in contact with them or bring them to justice. how did the idea come about, first? >> well two years ago, adam and i met and started talking about this story that he'd kind of come across where there were these lists of individuals who were wanted for terrorism and international war crimes, et cetera, that were living in the united states an europe. and not only had it ostensibly been ignored, but it was kind of going under the radar of law enforcement and the general public. so when we started talking about it we sat down with steve capus, the head of nbc news, during
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those conversations a series came about. we were blessed with the idea of patience and vision from nbc to say, take the time to figure out a way to do this in a totally new way, make it look different and it had to live up to these really high standards of journalism because in a lot of cases they were just accusations. how do you go about building this? >> you mention it looks different. it does. it looks like a movie. that's one of the reason it's built so much buzz, and some controversy. people want to know is it news or is it high-production entertainment, adam? what is it? >> i think the amazing thing is what we're doing is taking rigorous investigative reporting and marrying it with preelly high-production values. that doesn't take away from the reporting. actually compliments it. people are looking at it, saying, i haven't seen a news shot in 24-p to make it look cinematic. the buzz has been tremendously encouraging and we're getting unbelievable screenback. >> you just screened it on
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capitol hill. the premier, you sit down with a mullah accused of killing hundreds of americans. >> the premier in d.c. was surreal. we screened it for 400 or 500 top officials from doj, state, homeland security, dea, fbi, special operations. after the screening they were like, we have some targets for you. we have some guys you should be looking at. they came back and said, the greatest weapon terrorists have is they hide in the shadows. these are faceless crimes. these guys could be sitting right next to you and you wouldn't know it. you can't be faced with this in prime time. when we put the light of the media on you and create this idea of education through entertainment, you as a newsman should watch us and say the standards are there, it is good investigation. and my 16-year-old neighbor should say i want to watch this at 10:00 on mondays because this is cool. >> adam, how much is it a goal of yours to have a part in one of these suspects being brought to justice?
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>> in my case, and i think a lot of people's cases, you get into journalism because you want to effect a positive change. what i've seen over and over with this, episode after ep code, it's been a catalyst for government action, not an obstacle but a catalyst. not only did we have this screening in washington last week, last night it was screened down in special operations command. you have the tip of the sphere, navy s.e.a.l.s, green berets, all of these guys on the front lines, were blown away. their only comment was you should have gone further. you should have taken the guy out. >> fascinating stuff. thanks for stopping by. catch the series premier of "the wanted" some night, 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on nbc. as the old song goes, "breaking up is hard to do," but these days it seems technology is making splitting up a little easier. it's the kiss of death.
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>> it's not you, it's me. >> reporter: sometimes when you're done, you're done. >> i'm done. >> what? >> reporter: but in this digital age, it seems as though breaking up in person could be a thing of the past. >> i had this guy leave me a voice mail at work. so i called him at home. then he e-mailed me to my blackberry, and so i texted to his cell and then he e-mailed me to my home account and the whole thing just got out of control. >> the digital age is not only part of our personal relationships, people are hooking up via text and e-mail and off facebook and moois space. if you make that initial connection that way, the natural progression is that you're going to end the relationship that way. >> reporter: a recent survey by a mobile social networking service found that breaking up via text message is becoming more common. 45% admitted to using their cell phone or blackberry to end a relationship. >> i have broken up with someone via text message or e-mail. >> i've given a girl the cold
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shoulder through text message before. >> i know this gentleman that just got broken up. they'd been in a relationship for about two years and he just found out the other day through an e-mail that the engagement was broken off. >> reporter: it's not just texting. others are using social networking sites like facebook to change their relationship status. >> i logged on to facebook after receiving a call from my girlfriend about it. i got the thing that pops up and says you're not in a relationship anymore. that's how i find out. >> reporter: in the end the question remains -- is dumping someone digitally the right thing to do? >> it is a great way to avoid any conflict or deal with any emotion. but we have to understand, we're human beings, we need face time. >> it would and long, drawn-out conversation. text message is short. >> the best way to communicate is face-to-face, not facebook. >> joining us psychotherapist
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robi ludwig and steve, thanks for letting me know it was dress-down sunday. i don't know that. didn't get the memo or a free t-shirt. robi, in this day and age everybody has a cell phone, a blackberry or some sort of personal organizing device like this. are these things just an extension of ourselves and that's part of our low man tick relationship? >> i think it is. in fact, with the newer generation, i think our interpersonalal skills are atrophying. people are texting one another even on dates. people are on blackberries not even making that eye contact. >> there's hollywood precedent here. people have broken up via text messaging. kevin fetter line, britney spears, jessica simpson, the lead singer from maroon 5. it's been done before. if they did it, isn't it okay for us to do it? >> not when you're getting out of a marriage or you've been in a long-term relationship. but if it's a new relationship,
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you've only dated a few times, your communication is primarily via text, say, thank you, it's been nice meeting you, via text. you're not having that face-to-face context. long-term relationship, it's being a coward really. >> is there a different standard for guys and girls? >> i think women, girls, made texting prolific. you as a woman, if you get into a relationship with a guy and you allow him to text you for dates, then it's your fault. what you need to do in the beginning of the relationship make sure he is not going to brake up with you by texting, by making him call you. by making him say, training us to say as many things face to face as possible. >> what about all these networking sites? facebook, you change your status. is this all just like you said, a cowardly approach to all of this? >> it is like a press release. don't want to go out with you anymore. i think it is for the person that's looking for the easy way out. it is much easier to do this via
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text and facebook than face to face. nobody wants to face that confrontation really. >> bottom line, when you're 20, 40, 60, however long you've been in a relationship, best way to break up with someone. >> two situations for breaking up via text. if the person is a psycho and you fear for your life, which has happened to me. or -- >> look at this guy. don't hold back. >> or -- or because it is not that serious of a veelgsshrelat and you just don't want to deal with it because it is long distance. otherwise, it is inappropriate. guys, have some masculinity and break up face-to-face. >> i agree. although it is tougher, it is good to sometimes do the tough thing. it builds kasht. it is important how to say no. >> guys, thank you very much. appreciate it. many. we'll be right back after these messages. min d, and exerc, i still got osteoporosis. i never thought i could do more than stop my bone loss.
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the ancient ruins, the fabled "lost city of the incas" were first found about 100 years ago in peru. >> the city may be one of south america's greatest tourist attractions. boyd matson returned from a trip there and brought along some friends to help tell us all about it. >> the footage is gorgeous. first, tell us about your trip? what did you do and who did you bring? >> national geographic magazine for kids picks as a contest every year where they write essays about being explorers. we pick the 15 best. they get to bring a parent and a couple of teachers. this year's trip was to peru. we went to the va krsacred vall. llamas are still wandering
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around helping mow. >> can you hear them humming? >> i wasn't sure if it was you or the llama. i'm like, what do you want? the segment's almost over, carl. calm down. >> this finer is a very important part of the inca tradition. this alpaca has just been sheered. >> don't touch his head. he doesn't like his head touched. >> he's been going the bathroom for about a half-hour now. okay, how you doing? i'll hang out over here. this is one of the most iconic places in the world. is it true incas got all that stone high into the andes without using a wheel? >> these are pack animals. they haul stuff up. they built smooth rocks, the big rocks over the smooth rocks.
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>> their gaze is very intense. they look right at you. we're told if the load is too heavy they will spit, kick, what? >> these do kick. these are south american camels, the llama and the el pack alpaca. they'll cook wikick with those . ooh, hear that noise? look at jenna. he may be get ready to spit. don't want that to happen. he's been eating the plants in the back. they will bring that up. it is sort of a little stomach bile and curd when they spit. it is a defense mechanism. that's like a warning get away before i kick you. >> that's what carl uses. how much weight can they actually carry? >> they can carry easily -- they weigh like 450 pounds. they can carry 150 pounds without any problem. they're pack animals,
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sure-footedness on these trails. the kids had a wonderful experience. >> we got a little more action going on on the floor over here. do they wait for the red light to go on? >> literally it has been going to the bathroom the entire segment. they look like blueberries. >> you want to taste one? >> no, thank you! >> they're essentially like cats in that they will go to the bathroom only in a specific area, not where they eat. whenever he comes back to the studio, this is where he's going to go. >> live television. boyd matson, thank you so much. for more on "discoveries with boyd," check out "wild chronicles" online. we'll be right back. help each other out.merie and when you open a checking account, bank of america helps you with $100 when you use your new debit card and online bill pay. plus you get free services and products you can only get from bank of america.
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