we're back with more of "today" on a thursday morning, the 13th day of october, 2011. some people hanging around with us this morning. we thank them for that on kind of a cooler, damper day here in the northeast. i'm matt lauer with ann curry. al roker and savannah guthrie and unfortunately talk about a tragic story out of california. a man goes into a hair salon in seal beach, opens fire. at least eight people were killed. the man was taken into custody a short time later. what was the motive? what drove him to this? we'll be talking about that in

this half hour. meantime have you guys heard about this operation hacker-azzi? basically this florida guy now accused of hacking into the e-mail accounts of a lot of celebrities. in fact, more than 50 people including people like scarlett johansson, in some cases photographs that the star did not want splashed all over the internet that were so we'll tell you more about that arrest. >> all right. and today's prfrofessionals are back with their strong opinions on interesting topics including whether sexy ads on billboards should be allowed near schools. there is a new law that outlaws that. we'll talk about that. also tough to find a good baby-sitter so what about the idea of rent a grandma? we'll talk about that with star jones, donny deutsch, and dr. nancy all here ready to chat. >> i would have done that. >> a great idea actually. >> i would have done that. because we live on the east coast. >> yeah. exactly. and then some health habits that you think are good for you could be bad. one that matt and i might be guilty of.

too much hand sanitizer. daily nutrition supplements. cardio workouts. we'll tell you why you could be overdoing it and actually hurting your health in the long run. >> have you bought into any of this stuff? we keep saying this stuff about how over sanitizing could be bad for you. >> probably three, four times a day. but, you know, over the course of a day. >> an hour? >> no, no. >> they have the stuff in their pockets. >> let's go inside. natalie is standing by at the news desk with the headlines. good morning, everyone. police in southern california are still investigating a motive in wednesday's beauty salon massacre that left eight people dead and another wounded. the alleged gunman is in custody. nbc's kristen dahlgren is in seal beach with more. good morning, kristen. >> good morning, natalie. this is a small, close-knit beach community. many here know at least one of the eight people who were killed. another woman remains in critical condition this morning. police say that every station

was full when 42-year-old scott derkaai allegedly opened fire here at the salon. police say he was wearing full body armor and carrying multiple weapons. six women and two men were killed. police arrested derkaai about a half mile from here. they say he surrendered peacefully but had multiple weapons in his truck. as for a motive police aren't saying but those who knew the victims say derkaai's ex-wife worked as a stylist at the salon. they tell us the two were involved in a custody dispute. police are expected to release names of the victims later today, natalie. >> kristen dahlgren in seal beach this morning, thank you. former godfather's pizza ceo herman cain now leads the republican presidential field in the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. cain, known for his simplified 999 flat tax plan has a slim lead over former massachusetts governor mitt romney. former front runner rick perry dropped 20 points to third place. meantime, 63% of those polled favored president obama's jobs plan even though the president's low approval rating was

unchanged. secretary of state hillary clinton calls the alleged plot to assassinate the saudi ambassador to the u.s. a dangerous escalation in iran's support for terrorism. she told nbc news in an exclusive interview the u.s. believes the plot was conceived and directed from tehran and calls it a state sponsored act of terror. iran denies it was involved. federal officials are accusing a 35-year-old florida man of hacking into e-mail accounts and cell phones of hollywood celebrities. nbc's george lewis has more now from los angeles. good morning. good morning. the fbi is calling this operation hacker-azzi alleging more than 50 people had their e-mail accounts compromised and a number of those were celebrities and in some of those cases nude photos of the celebrities were splashed all over the internet. that's what happened to scarlett johansson earlier this year. nude photos from her cell phone winding up on a number of

websites. ditto for rene olsted just two of the more than 50 victims of the alleged hack attack. >> we at the department of justice take this crime very seriously. christina aguilera according to the fbi also had her e-mails hacked as did simone harusch. a 26-count indictment charges christopher chaney of jacksonville, florida with violating federal anti-hacking and identity theft laws. he is free on $10,000 bond. the fbi says the accused hacker scanned celebrity magazines, twitter, and facebook accounts for information about the celebrities who were targeted. virtually all of these victims were compromised because the alleged hacker mr. chaney mined through publicly available data and figured out passwords and security questions. >> reporter: the authorities say he was not trying to profit from the alleged hacking. >> while there is certainly a celebrity aspect of this case, i want to emphasize that all users

of computer and digital devices are potentially victims of this very same type of cyber attack. >> reporter: the problem, authorities say, is that too many e-mail users, including celebrities, use passwords like the names of pets or birth dates that are too easy to guess. >> i hope this serves as a clear and important lesson for potential victims to protect their information and their computers. >> reporter: but in this digital era whether you're famous or not privacy has become an increasingly perishable commodity. chaney has not yet entered a plea. he has another court appearance coming up in florida tomorrow morning. natalie? >> all right. george lewis in los angeles, thank you. it is beginning to look a lot like christmas already. we've got a sneak peek of the radio city music hall rockettes rehearsing for their annual christmas spectacular. the rockettes and their sky high kicks are a nearly 80-year tradition here in new york. we always love them. it is now six minutes past the hour. let's go back outside to matt

and ann. >> they do not look that old. >> an excuse to show a picture of a bunch of pretty girls. that's what i would say. let's look at the weather with mr. roker. >> i got another bunch of pretty girls right here. who do we have here? >> this is kimberly. >> and? >> this is caylee. >> how old are they? >> five months. >> where are you from? >> philadelphia. >> they are beautiful. my gosh. >> drove in today. >> wow. that's a lot of baby. let's check your weather. here comes more showers making their way up from philadelphia into the northeast and new england, a slow-moving system is going to bring a bunch of rain. nothing too heavy. generally about a half to quarter inch of rain, some areas locally a little bit more. then we head out west. look at these high temperatures. going to get up to 97 in hollywood. burbank 99. long beach will see a high of 101 degrees.

>> things should improve this afternoon. the high temperature will and that's your latest weather. savannah? >> al, thanks. now to today's professionals where our panel of power players break down the hottest headlines. surveys and studies making news. star jones is an attorney and author. donny deutsch is chairman of deutsch incorporated and dr. nancy snyderman is nbc's chief medical editor. good morning to all of you. >> do you notice nancy always touches me at the beginning of the segment? >> like you guys have your little moment. >> i need the energy. >> she is transferring her power to you. okay. let's start with demi and ashton. i don't know if any of us really

knows what's going on behind closed doors between these two but it would appear there are marital problems because there's this 22-year-old woman who is talking to "us weekly" about her one night stand with ashton that took place on their sixth anniversary. >> she needs to shut up. >> that may be the case. >> there are two things. you live by the sword you die by the sword. people who are so engaged in social media and tweet about every single thing and then something bad happens you go radio silent and people are going to assume the worst. this is part of, you know, the age we live in. but i have to say, agree with star. this blonde who allegedly slept with him, shame on her. >> hold on a second. >> i love hearing the women say this. because obviously -- >> it's disgusting. >> why are we focusing on the woman sh she's not married. he is the one who's married. >> she is giving the interviews. i am sick of her. >> i love that. >> one time being a hoochy does not make it an affair or a mistress.

>> you're in the papers for a day. this is going to stay with you the rest of your life. i think it is so great thaw womthat you women are firing back at these one timers if you will. >> obviously insane. why are we focusing all of our ire on this woman in setting aside whether or not she should be in the magazine. >> i love it. this is why i do the show with you guys. >> it's because demi is the only one who has the right to focus her ire on ashton. she's married to him. we are not. we get to focus our ire on the hoochy on the cover of "us" magazine. >> i tell you, this fascinates me. another thing i have to ask you. if you are a famous person and you are going to meet someone in a bar and then hook up with them i just assume you don't care if it ends up in the papers because -- >> temptation is around every corner for people who live in this high, intense celebrity life. >> i think there is another issue also. i want to talk about the age issue. i think it's about 20 years, can maybe not be an issue when you're 25 and 45 because you're

still maybe in the same life stage. as the life stages move for instance if you're 70 and 50 i think the age difference becomes more challenging at different periods and this could be that point. >> not so much when men are older. >> same thing. >> but i don't know, home cooking or doing nothing, i mean, she is out. she has projects. she's beautiful. i take your point about they may be at different stages but she seems to be a very vibrant woman. >> i'm not sure we can ascribe that it's all over because they've had some issues, relationships have issues. just like anybody's relationship. the biggest problem though is when you invite the public into your private space. and i know a little something about that. it's really hard to close the door. the public has expect -- >> it takes more than an affair to break up a relationship but this kind of public scrutiny is very tough. >> just to put an end on it star and nancy do you think it has anything to do with the age difference? donny thinks it may. >> i'm just saying in generally

think it becomes more challenging. >> look, gravity plays a role as you get older and so you can have a -- i just think it may be tough. i don't know. >> i saw them over the holiday a couple years ago and demi is banging. i don't think it has to do with any of that. >> i don't think gravity applies to her. she looks great. >> she is -- >> i got it. >> moving on. next topic prison inmates as firefighters. so many states, counties are facing bud troub so a novel idea which is to use prison inmates as firefighters. >> stupid, stupid, and more stupid. >> absolutely smart. >> brilliant. >> oh, my gosh. you want a criminal -- >> absolutely. >> to come into your home, a person who is -- no. they said thieves and drug dealers. >> excuse me. >> look at the prisons and see who is in the prisons. we have a lot of people in prison who shouldn't be in prison. >> even if they are prisoners, if basically for no money you

can increase the safety of people, number one, help fire departments out. number two, put these prisoners to work, make them do something and at the same time maybe -- >> in my home? >> they're not walking around. they're with other firefighters. a really progressive idea. >> my house is burning down and you're telling me the bravest human beings o the earth, the so the thief does not steal my earrings? what kind of b.s. is that? >> i have three more firefighters in there and i'm not worried about my wallet. if it helps fighting fires let's do it. >> then hire firefighters. i know we have a fiscal issue but we don't sacrifice safety. >> you're right. >> trustees or even people with exemplary prison behavior, relatively minor crime you think no? >> not bringing it into somebody's house because tomorrow, excuse me, today's drug dealer and thief could be tomorrow's rapist and murderer. >> star, this is the least progressive i've ever heard you talk. >> if you're going to bring a criminal into my house talking

about being a firefighter -- >> if my house is burning down bring them over. >> no thank you. next topic since you're so harmonious, sexy ads banned near schools. in britain the advertising standards authority has said they will not allow, quote-unquote, sexy ads to be within a certain amount, a hundred yards of schools and nurseries. is this a good idea? you're the advertising guy. >> as an ad guy number one, first of all, who is to decide what sexy is. it is a slippery slope. >> they have a whole list of things. >> even more importantly you can't insulate your kids. that is the stupidest thing. basically your kids are going to see television. okay. just in those five minutes they're going in the bus past the school. put a bubble around them? it is the most inan thing i've heard. a waste of time. >> in san francisco there is cigarette advertising on billboards that was absolutely on purpose put in black and hispanic neighborhoods because we knew that was the way to push advertisements. we knew kids are impressionable. if these ads are over the top, i see no reason to have these billboards around schools.

>> it's like that's not solving the problem. >> star? >> just real quick i would worry less about the sex aspect of it and more about things that will really damage a kid like too much sugar and alcohol ads. that's what i'm more concerned about. >> our next topic, coed roommates. ucla and other schools are considering whether they would allow coeds, people to live together, boys and girls together in college dorms. >> i think ann will kill me if i say this because she's got a college-age daughter. however, i'd much rather have a nice, clean male roommate. >> there is no such thing. >> than a nasty girl. >> there is no such thing in college. >> in college? no. >> that's not true. >> look, my daughter went to the university of vermont. she lived on a coed floor but they had their own bathrooms. >> same here. >> so cohabitating on a floor is not an issue but i think if you pull college girls and say do you want to share a bathroom with a guy? the answer is no. >> freshman year university of pennsylvania we had coed bathrooms.

it was stumdpid. it made life more difficult. >> so people may elect not to do it but do you have a problem with it being available? >> no. if my kid can opt out. >> to star's point and i don't like her today and don't want to agree but i think if my daughter was on her own living off campus i'd want her living with a boy who she is friends with for a safety issue. there are two sides. i really don't like you. >> it's okay. >> our last topic, rent a grandma, we all love this idea, a new employment agency recruiting women of an older age. who has experience with kids? it's grandmothers. they're able to make some money as well. >> there are so many women who didn't do the main stream work force and then they get -- we cast older women aside in this kour country. what a wonderful way to harness an unused work force and help moms who need help. >> my grandma is watching right now. she is 93. >> this is a win-win. >> she is 93 years old.

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60% alcohol and try to stay clear of ones that contain trycloclan which some studies show can increase antibiotic resist tangs. >> a lot of us take supplements. half of all americans surveyed do take supplements. is that not a good thing in the end? >> people think because they are over the counter they don't have any side effects but supplements could interact with another medication you are already taking so you should always check with your doctor before taking any supplement regularly. and experts always say it is best to get your nutrients through food. so try to eat a healthy diet. that should be the focus. if you're worried that you're deficient you should check in with your doctor first. >> brushing your teeth, i think the recommendation is usually twice a day. >> yes. >> some people like to do it after every meal. they feel that's best for dental hygiene but that could not be a good thing. how so? >> in some cases acidic foods, if you brush right after you eat it like orange juice it can wear away at your enamel so we don't want to discourage anyone from

brushing their teeth but you can just rinse your mouth out with water after eating acidic foods. >> or wait a half hour. >> and then brush the teeth. >> okay. next is skin care products. a lot of us like to experiment with them and we think it's going to help us prevent fine lines and wrinkles but actually when you play around with too much of this stuff can it cause more harm to your skin? >> you have to give them time to work. you should wait six to eight weeks using the same one and then if it's not working consult your dermatologist because they really know best what is going to work for your skin. if you keep switching you could develop an allergy to skin products or you can get an irritation so you really should check with your dermatologist before switching around. >> a lot of us like to do cardio workouts. we think we're getting the maximum amount of exercise in a workout. but doing too much cardio may actually harm your body. how is that? >> you have to remember to also do your resistance training as well. >> right. >> people forget that you should do that twice a week, for 30 minutes, 20 to 30 minutes. and also doing this same cardio

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besides savannah and natalie the two women calling the shots on the fashion scene today? pippa middleton and her older sister kate otherwise known as the duchess of cambridge. we'll take a look at the impact these british siblings are having on fashion tomorrow on "today." >> all right. also coming up this half hour talk about some prime real

estate. this 7,000 square foot penthouse on the brooklyn water front boasts 50-foot ceilings, amazing views of manhattan, and the statue of liberty. its own gym, bar, even a glass elevator. we'll take you on a private tour coming up. al, it was so nice of you to let our cameras in. >> i know. great part about this you never have to ask what time it is. >> that's true. nice big clock there. all right. then we're taking you to the texas border going undercover inside the drug war. we're not but we'll meet two narcotics cops who risk their lives every day to keep drugs from crossing over from mexico. we'll talk about that coming up. in today's kitchen a sample of chinese delicacies. we'll be making dumplings and dimsung. they look complicated but they're simple and delicious. because they're small, you can eat a lot of them. sometimes it's to your detriment but not today. we'll show you some recipes that are easy to whi up at home. >> all right. first let's check the weather. >> all right. let's see what's happening for today. we've got rain in the northeast. showers also in the upper

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show. gentlemen, good morning. good to have you here. this is an al roker production and he is one of the executive producers just to get that out of the way. i notice your names are the aliases you use for the show as well. we'll stick with that as well. sergeant, let me start with you. you've been a police officer there in laredo for more than 20 years now and the longest ten e tenured officer. what is the daily job when it comes to fighting the war on drugs? >> actually our first job is to protect the community of laredo but by doing that we also run into tons of illegal drugs coming across the bored frer mexico into our community which are going further north. we try to take what we can down in laredo, texas. >> what we saw in that clip, action packed, every day. is that the reality of it? how dangerous are the situations that you and your other officers on your team are putting themselves in day in and day out? >> definitely it is a reality. we're bordered right on mexico so it comes across in so many

places where we live. we're taking down tons of drugs yearly. and it does get very dangerous. >> investigator rodriguez, i know you've been working with the sergeant for four years now. what drives you and your team? it's a small unit as i understand it, to really fight this fight. >> yes, natalie, it is a small unit. we're, you know, five of us working against a large organization which is these drug cartels. what motivates us, our unit is basically trying to better our community and keep the flow of narcotics going further north into the u.s. >> because that's really it. laredo is the border town and from laredo the drugs enter the rest of the country. is that right? >> yes. that's correct. >> and how much are we talking about in terms of cash and narcotics crossing over into our border? >> you're looking at, you know, in cash wise you're looking over millions and millions of dollars. and the same thing as the

narcotics going north. we catch a small part of it but it's just, you know, a small part that we catch. we don't know how much is actually crossing into the united states. >> al's team had some exclusive and really behind-the-scenes access to your unit for the past two years. was it pretty much, you know, the cameras following you around all the time, was anything off limits? >> no. there was nothing off limits. the cameras were with us 24 hours a day basically. they just followed us and taped whatever we did. they didn't ask us to do anything special. we didn't do anything different. we just did our job. and they followed us. >> do you ever fear for your lives? i mean, i imagine when you're talking about this battle against drug cartels that you come across some very, very interesting and dangerous situations. >> yes. i mean, it is a dangerous job but, you know, we still do it for one reason like i said, you know, for our community to be better. so it is dangerous. >> and from laredo, where do the drugs then go if you guys don't

get to them? >> they'll end up in a hub, dallas, texas, atlanta, midwest, and then from there they branch out to different cities and smaller communities. >> what would help you guys, do you think, do a better job at trying to keep that flow of drugs from entering the rest of the country? what could help you? >> i would say more resources from the u.s. government, you know, would really help us out and we just need, you know, more funds, more people. >> that is always the case. >> right. >> more funds more people. you're doing a great job. thank you so much for allowing al's cameras to follow you as well and being part of this. and we should mention that border town laredo debuts tonight at 10:00 and 10:30 eastern and pacific on a&e. coming up next in today's kitchen traditional dimsung that you can make at home. this is "today" on nbc.

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kitchen dimsung step by step. we explore this traditional chinese style cooking with a fresh twist on her cooking show. good to see you. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> some of these recipes have been passed down from your parents and grandparents. >> absolutely. you know, i love dimsung culture. it's so wonderful. i'm all about easy chinese so that you can make this, you know, easy at home with your family, with your friends, and it's just wonderful. >> and relatively healthy. it's small and a lot of times steamed. >> absolutely. a lot of times steamed. i'm going to show you two of my favorite recipes that i also demonstrate on easy chinese san francisco. i'll do pork and prawn wantons which are boiled. we can have them fried as appetizers but this is super healthy. you need ground pork and i have some prawns. >> is that a common combination, pork and seafood? >> oh, absolutely. pork and seafood, we love it. you know, think of like oyster sauce with chicken, stir fry.

it's just wonderful. it's the textures and the flavors. >> and what else do we add to this? >> to this filling i'm going to add in grated ginger. ginger is gorgeous. then i have here rice wine which is really good. if you don't have this you can use dry sherry. a little light soy sauce and chinese chives or scallions whatever you have. a little pinch of ground white pepper, sesame oil, and corn starch. mix this all in really well. >> right. >> then you get into a beautiful filling like this. >> it ends up like that. >> exactly. the filling is like this. what you do is arm yourself with wanton skin. >> arm yourself with wanton. >> make a round circle with your thumb and your second finger. you make a little hole like that. and then take a teaspoon of the filling, pack it right in. and then give this a good twist. okay? you with me? >> i'm with you. >> if you can do it, al, everyone can do it. >> you've obviously seen the

show. >> okay. so there you go. >> okay. >> beautiful. okay. so now that's gorgeous. >> thank you. >> then what we do is we pop them in some simmering water. think ravioli or dumpling. you don't want to overcook it. if you overcook it they'll come out. they're floating and cooked and gorgeous and golden. just cook it for about five minutes. >> okay. >> as soon as they float up to the surface then you know they're done. like floating clouds. that's what they call it. then we season it. just garnish it with scallions like this. you don't want to waste any and then we serve it with a soy sauce and chili sauce. this is one more. we use exactly the same skin. >> you can get these at any grocery store. >> exactly. the asian supermarket, or any grocery store in the frozen section and when you're using it -- >> is this the same filling? >> no. this is different. i have here chicken and mushroom. >> okay. >> you pack it in like this. with this we don't seal it. we just pack it as much as

possible in the top. you nip it in at the waist. are you following? >> i'm trying. >> then a little berry which is super healthy on the top like that. >> is it a real berry? >> it's a goji berry, a super food, and is really good for you. >> is there anything else? >> you can top it with a carrot. that would be fine. what we do is pop it on a steamer like this. you can use some grease food paper and hole punch it or just brush it with a little oil and you just pop them in like that. and then you steam them. and then ta-da! they're done. >> these are perfect for like a cute little party you're having. >> absolutely. you can freeze them in advance. here you go, ladies. >> thank you. >> these are the wantons. >> and dip. >> good chili sauce. a little bit of soy sauce next to it. this is the dumpling. this is traditional. >> that is delicious. >> basically one skin, two different fillings and two different ways of cooking.

>> yummy. >> now remember. if i can do it, anybody can do it. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. coming up hoda and kathie lee have the winners of the baby fashion show. >> plus hulk hogan stops by after your local news. dimsung anybody? ♪

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