good morning. number three, a third woman comes forward alleging inappropriate sexual conduct by republican presidential front runner herman cain as he points a finger at rick perry's campaign and gets testy with the press. >> don't even bother asking me all of these other questions that you all are curious about. okay? don't even bother. >> shocking video. a daughter releases a disturbing tape of her father beating her with a belt seven years ago. the beating lasted for more than seven minutes. her father, a texas judge, says he did nothing wrong. this morning she speaks out in an exclusive interview. and kim on camera. >> it's hurtful and i certainly didn't want to disappoint

anyone, but first and foremost i have to follow my heart. >> kim kardashian answers questions about her divorce for the first time today, thursday, questions about her divorce for the first time today, thursday, november 3rd, 2011. captions paid for by nbc-universal television welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm ann curry. >> i'm matt lauer. the story involving herman cain has taken a dramatic new turn, another woman coming forward. >> a third woman now claims that cain made suggestive remarks and gestures back in the 1990s to her as the cain campaign blasts rick perry's camp saying his operatives set off the whole firestorm. will this intraparty fight hurt the party's chance of taking back the white house?

we'll ask that question straight ahead. on a much different note she has been seen but rarely heard. now katherine the duchess of cambridge is speaking to the press. coming up, in her own words. plus important advice for women on how to check out the guy you meet online before you go on a date. rocker ace freely dishes the dirt on his time in the rock super group kiss. the rock 'n' roll lifestyle and his feud with the kiss front man gene simmons. let us begin with the republican presidential front runner herman cain and yet another woman accusing him of bad behavior in the '90s. lisa meyers is nbc's senior investigative correspondent. good morning. >> reporter: this story has become a freeeding frenzy. a third woman has come forward describing aggressive and unwanted behavior by cain. another accuser who wanted to go public is having second thoughts. cain now charges the campaign of an opponent, texas governor rick perry, triggered the entire

political firestorm. >> mr. cain would you like to comment on the allegations? >> nope. >> reporter: for herman cain this story is quickly going from bad to worse. >> don't even bother asking me all of these other questions that you all are curious about. okay? don't even bother. >> reporter: but when reporters persist -- >> excuse me. excuse me. what part of no don't people understand? >> reporter: the third woman to come forward also is an employee of the national restaurant association when cain was ceo in the 1990s. she told the associated press she considered filing a complaint against cain for aggressive and unwanted behavior but did not. cain calls it a baseless allegation. >> mr. cain has never committed any harassment, period, end of story. >> reporter: but nbc news has confirmed a third woman did complain to others about cain's conduct. that's in addition to the two women who officially accused cain of improper sexual conduct

and received financial settlements. what's more, a former consultant to the restaurant association, chris wilson, now says he saw cain treat a female employee inappropriately at a crystal city, virginia restaurant. >> i was actually around a couple times where this happened. if she does go on the air and talk about it i think it'll be the end of his campaign. >> reporter: wilson is a supporter of governor rick perry. the cain camp now blames the entire political firestorm on perry's campaign claiming a perry adviser leaked the initial story, which triggered all this. >> the actions of the perry campaign are despicable. rick perry and his campaign owe herman cain and his family an apology. >> reporter: a perry spokesman called the charge both reckless and false. cain's campaign manager called on all cain's accusers to stop hiding behind anonymity. >> i would challenge anybody that has these statements to be made to come forward with the

person making the statements. face mr. cain. >> but joel bennett the lawyer for a woman who said she wanted to get her story out now says she has decided to let him do all the talking. she has a life to live and a career and she doesn't want to become another anita hill. bennett says he'll send a statement with his client's version of events to the national restaurant association today, hoping the group agrees it does not violate her nondisclosure agreement. it will not go into minute details of the incidents with cain, he says, because it's unpleasant and sensational and she does not want to do that. ann? >> all right. lisa meyers this morning. thank you for your reporting. we have the chairman of the republican committee. good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm okay. >> great. >> how is the party and how is herman cain's candidacy? let me ask you straight out. can herman cain's candidacy for president survive the claims of harassment from three women and

now also this eyewitness? >> well, i mean, it depends on the versety veracity of the co. primaries are tough and i happen to believe primaries are good for the party. i think when you have the horsepower on your side of the aisle like we have on the republican side they work. you know, i come from wisconsin and, you know, we have a new governor there that you know very well by the name of scott walker. he came through a very tough primary. they work and, by the way, you look at barack obama and hillary clinton, they fought it out all the way through the end of june before a national convention. guess what? it worked out pretty well. he took a super majority to congress, a 60-vote majority to the senate. >> let me interrupt you and ask you. what is happening here seems to be something else. there seems to be an intraparty conflict. a rivalry. kind of almost a serious feud. you've got -- which do you believe? do you believe cain is right in pointing the finger at the perry campaign or do you think the perry campaign is being honest

in saying it had nothing to do with this leak? >> listen, i'm not going to get in the middle of it. it's not my job to be the referee. >> you are the head of the rnc however. in some ways you are. >> well, yeah. of course i'm the head of the rnc but as part of the rnc we don't pick winners and losers in presidential elections. my job, ann, is to make sure we have a republican national committee that's ready to go and we have a nominee. my job is to make sure that we put a good nominee on the ballot and that we defeat barack obama and save this country from an economy that is just not ontrack. that's really what americans want. who that nominee is going to be is anybody's guess. >> does the scandal, interrupting you, i know it's bad behavior but let me get these questions in, do you think this scandal has affected your party's ability to unseat barack obama? >> absolutely not. i mean, if you look at the polling, and you look at where americans are at in this, in this country, they, number one,

believe by 80% this country is on the wrong track. they believe that this president hasn't delivered on his promises, and guess what? the president came to america. the president came to us as the great uniter. now he is out campaigning as the great divider, pitting everyone against everybody, republican versus democrats, rich versus poor. the economy couldn't be in any worse shape than it is right now. and, you know, i think americans are ready for a change. that, we know, is a constant. this issue and other issues are going to come and go but at the end of the day, americans are not going to believe that this president delivered on his promises or that the economy is in any better shape today than it was four years ago. it's worse. >> let's get back to the issue at hand. specifically now you know the perry campaign is also pointing the finger at the romney campaign. let me get your rules of the road here. >> i didn't even know that. so you're telling me information. there you go. >> a lot of this broke over the last 24 hours. let me get your rules of the

road as an rnc chair. if a rival campaign did leak this, does this cross the line in terms of the party and how things are done and not done? >> you know, i don't think so. i mean -- first of all, i don't know what's true and what's not. it's not our job to be the sherlock -- we're not the sherlock holmes of the presidential primary field. we've got 21 candidates that filed in new hampshire. what we are, are people who are trying to put the party together to rebuild our republican national committee, to get prepared for a president who is campaigning nonstop all the time, raising money every single night. we're going to be prepared with a nominee that's intelligent, articulate, and can earn the trust of the american people, to save this economy from a president who hasn't delivered and who just continues to give

speeches but doesn't follow through. that's really where we're at in this country. >> republican national committee chairman, i'm sorry we're out of time but we really appreciate you joining us this morning. >> you bet. thank you, ann. it is 7:09. here is matt. president obama arrived in france this morning for a world economic summit, a meeting dominated by talk of a potential economic catastrophe in greece. what happens there could affect your pocketbook in a very big way. cnbc's live in athens this morning. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. there have been major developments here in greece in the last couple hours. the prime minister has lost his majority in parliament with three deputies defecting. also earlier on today his finance minister has publicly broken ranks with him. this is a major blow to the prime minister. all of this is a direct response to the prime minister's decision to call a referendum on greece's membership in the euro zone.

this is important. the prime minister may fall by the end of the day, and if he falls, the referendum he has called for is obviously at risk. if he keeps his job though, yes, the referendum can go through, but it could still have major consequences for the global economy. greece is the cradle of western civilization, the birthplace of democracy. but now its financial problems and a controversial national referendum threaten the global economy. for a year and a half greece has been on brink of defaulting on its $452 billion debt, a possibility some feel could set off a domino effect with other troubled countries and lead to the breakup of the european union, one of the major economic powers in the world and one on which the u.s. heavily depends. >> worst case scenario is greece

defaults. a european bank collapses, goes bankrupt, and the whole system seizes up and people are nervous to lend to one another. >> reporter: last week the leadership devised a plan to bail out the greek economy. the u.s. market responded to the deal with bullish confidence. >> the markets around the world are surging. >> reporter: but to meet the eu's plan greece has to take severe action raising taxes and drastically reducing government benefits, so-called austerity measures. they've met fierce resistance on greek streets. in a move to shore up political support for the harsh requirements, the greek prime minister surprised the european union by putting their bailout proposal to a national vote, prompting international fears. >> for americans, the stock market is the biggest worry, particularly if people own financial stocks. they sell off right away when

there is fear like this. >> reporter: the eyes of the financial world will remain fixed on where democracy began. how the greek people vote will have repercussions across the globe. and, look. there are just over 11 million people living here in greece and exactly those 11 million people may have a very powerful voice in determining the future not just for europe but for the entire world. that is if the prime minister is still in power by friday night. on that note, back over to you. >> all right. reporting from athens, greece, on a developing story, thank you very much. let's check the rest of the morning's top stories from natalie morales at the news desk. good morning, everyone. in clashes overnight, oakland, california came to a standstill as tensions flared up again between police and occupy wall street protesters. nbc's miguel almaguer is there. good morning. >> reporter: good morning.

just a few short hours ago this demonstration took a dramatic turn. police in riot gear moved into downtown oakland and shot tear gas at protesters after they took over an abandoned building and started a large bonfire in the downtown area. a number of arrests were made as police continued to have a very large presence in downtown. overnight thousands of occupy protesters shut down the port of oakland, entrances blocked, delivery trucks turned away, demonstrators successful in bringing the nation's fifth largest port to a standstill. >> enough people came out here and just stopped traffic that the port couldn't operate. >> reporter: oakland's day-long citywide strike wednesday may have been the largest demonstration here since the vietnam war. all day an estimated 7,000 poured through city streets. >> this is the beginnings of a revolution. >> reporter: the occupy movement a rally against what protesters

call the unequal distribution of wealth and power. teachers marched with nurses. >> health care is a right, a human right. >> reporter: parents protested with children. >> people need a lot more power in our society and the 99% aren't getting the power. the 1% are. >> reporter: but this morning downtown oakland certainly has a much different look. dozens of protesters remain in this area and they are matched by dozens of police officers still in their riot gear. natalie? >> all right. be watching what happens there today, miguel almaguer in oakland, california. thank you. some terrifying new video of the moment a tug boat slammed a barge into a packed tourist boat in philadelphia last year killing two hungarian students onboard. tug boat pilot matthew devlin was sentenced this week to one year in prison for the 2010 crash. he had pleaded guilty to being distracted by his cell phone while steering. good news to report about the conjoined twins separated

earlier this week at stanford. the 2-year-old girls are recovering nicely after their risky, ten-hour surgery. the lead surgeon gary hartman says they are expected to make a complete recovery. usually it's a good thing when something green comes out of an atm machine but not when it is this. take a look. the little snake there, a man in spain called the police when the snake slithered from the slot, lunging at his hand. but don't worry. both man and beast -- he does lunge -- are doing well. he managed to grab his cash and the snake was taken to a local animal shelter. matt, ann, al, something to make your skin crawl this morning. >> such a cute little snake. >> clenched on to your hand probably. >> draws blood. >> these overdraft fees are getting out of hand. that's just ridiculous. >> that's good. i like that. >> that was nice. >> how about a check of the weather? we'll show you what's

happening. the storm system that dumped 10 inches of snow in denver is now making its way to the east. let's go and show you this beautiful shot over washington, d.c. look at that. that is a postcard. fantastic. now we go to the maps and you'll see here is that system making its way to the east. it's mostly going to make its way into the mid-atlantic states. i was trying to say basically and mostly. so mosically we'll see a lot of rain from -- mosaically -- from indiana all the way to the

that's your latest weather, ann. >> okay. thank you. it's back to jail next week for lindsay lohan, or is it? a zblunlg los angeles sentenced lohan to 30 days in jail for violating her parole but how much time if any will she actually have to serve? nbc's george lewis is at the jail in lynwood, california to explain why. george, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, ann. it isn't part of her court-ordered community service, but lindsay lohan is actually providing a civics lesson here because california's prisons are badly overcrowded the system has been shipping serious felons back to county jails like this one. so to accommodate them, misdemeanor offenders like lohan, are quickly shuffled in and out of here. >> are you sober? >> reporter: conservatively atired in a polka dot dress, lohan waived her right to a court hearing on probation violations, accused of failing

to show up for community service and court-ordered psychological counseling. >> do you admit that you violated probation by failing to obey all orders of the court? >> yes, your honor. >> with respect to both things the city attorney represented? >> yes, your honor. >> reporter: with that, the judge pronounced sentence. >> you're to serve 30 days in the county jail now. you are to surrender within one week. >> reporter: but the sheriff's office tells nbc news that because of overcrowding, lohan will likely spend at most one night in jail. >> the judge is going to give you whatever the judge is going to give you and the sheriff is going to release you because they don't have room for misdemeanors. >> reporter: she still has to do community service at the county morgue closely monitored by the court each month until the end of march. the judge cautioned lohan, who has 2,615,000 twitter followers not to post items about the morgue. >> they seem to have an issue with your tweeting. i can't order you to stop tweeting but if it's one of their rules that you don't tweet

about them, don't tweet about them. >> what is your comment, lindsay? talk to us please. >> reporter: one thing lohan has been tweeting about is her dental makeover. she has had her teeth whitened. here is the before and after. it could be because she is doing a big photo shoot for "playboy" magazine. >> we can't under estimate how important the teeth whitening is. let's face it. the only thing she is going to wear in that picture are her smiles. >> reporter: now court observers said lohan appeared humble and contrite, perhaps heeding her lawyer's advice not to do anything to further offend the judge, who has indicated her patience with lohan has run out in spite of that brand new smile. >> george lewis, thank you so much. coming up, caught on tape, a father beating his daughter with a belt. the man who did it a texas judge. now the video has gone viral and we'll talk to the daughter who posted it online in an exclusive interview coming up. but first, this is "today" on nbc.

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welcome to use the square within certain parameters. let's check the morning commute with sarah caldwell. >> southbound 795 the problem area. delays begin all the way down to the beltway. the accident is the cause of this, approaching owings mills in the southbound direction. 3 vehicles or more involved in the crash. slow go on the north and west side. speeds around 16 miles per hour. outer loop traffic back down again from reisterstown road down to edmondson. eastbound coldspring, watch for delays and closures at rolling ave. gaslight repair. westbound, you can get by alternating. allen moore road, another accident. live traffic, barely moving from reisterstown all the way down. at white marsh, delays there as well. that is the latest on traffic

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is harassment. we'll get to that and also help you understand if it's happening, if you've experienced it yourself. and also this morning, kim kardashian has now started answering questions for the first time about the end of her marriage and whether or not it was a stunt for her tv show. >> all right. let us begin this half hour with that incredibly disturbing story out of texas, video of a father repeatedly hitting his father with a belt. he is a judge. and a warning. this is very difficult to watch. we'll talk to the judge's daughter exclusively in a moment but first we go live to rock port, texas with the story. janet, good morning to you. >> reporter: matt, good morning. it bears repeating. this video is graphic, disturbing, difficult to watch, and has taken the internet by storm. more than 1.6 million views on youtube, most within the last 24 hours. a texas judge here in rockport, aransas county, repeatedly whipping his teenage daughter with a leather strap even as she was crying and pleading with him

to stop. >> get over here. >> reporter: the man in this video is texas judge william adams and the girl is his then 16-year-old daughter who has cerebral palsy. >> bend over that bed. bend over the bed. >> well -- >> bend over the bed! >> stop. stop. >> reporter: the beating continues on the legs for most of the seven-minute video that has swept the internet and provoked an online outcry. again and again hillary adams cries out after being lashed by her father's belt on her legs, her arms, and her buttocks. once at the hands of her mother. >> you turn over, i'm going to spank on your butt. you turn over like a 16-year-old and take it. like a grown woman. turn over. >> reporter: the disturbing scene was captured seven years ago in her bedroom, hillary says. after her dad found out she has downloaded music from an illegal website. >> are you happy?

huh? disobeying your parents? >> stop! >> reporter: after holding onto the video since 2004, hillary, now 23 and living on her own, uploaded it to youtube after she says her father continued to harass her and she finally had enough. >> the disputes and the harassment were escalating, and finally it just was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back and i told him i had the video and he brushed it off. >> reporter: william adams isn't just hillary's father. he's a judge in south texas where he routinely rules on cases involving children. he also sits on a county board overseeing the juvenile system. he admits that's him in the video. >> no, in my mind i haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing and i did lose my temper but i've since apologized. it looks worse than itis. there is a story. it'll come out in due time. okay? >> and it's because she downloaded a game onto your computer? >> no. she was stealing -- i don't want to get into it. okay? but there was a reason she was

being disciplined. >> reporter: but as a family's private feud went public and viral, outrage has boiled over. facebook pages have sprung up decrying judge adams. the texas commission on judicial conduct has been flooded with demands he be removed from the bench. in tiny rock port, police have been swamped by calls from all over the world. the chief has opened an investigation a at the district attorney's request to determine whether the beating was criminal. when does it cross the line? when does discipline within a family become assault? >> frequently that's a difficult thing to determine because by state law a person has a right to discipline their children to a point, but not to the point that you cause serious bodily injury to a child. >> reporter: hillary's mother has since divorced him and apologized for her role in the beating. for his part judge adams insists his daughter wasn't hurt. >> i lost my temper. i spanked her. her mother was there. she wasn't hurt. it was a long time ago. >> reporter: do you acknowledge

the beating was excessive, the spanking? the discipline? >> no. i'm not going to get into any of that. okay? >> reporter: police say judge adams has left rockport and a note outside the courthouse informs his hearings have been canceled. >> i ought to keep beating you and beating you. >> stop. stop. >> reporter: a daughter's disclosure as a family's private troubles go public. authorities tell nbc news that for a charge such as bodily injury to a child the statute of limitations is five years. this video is seven years old so it is likely no charges will be filed. as for judge adams' seat here on the bench county officials tell me when the judge does return for any cases involving children, a visiting judge is going to handle those at least for now. matt? >> thank you very much. hillary and haley adams are here for an exclusive interview. good morning to both of you. >> good morning, matt. >> we only showed a little portion of that tape. it goes on for seven very long minutes. we showed it in our newsroom yesterday to people who have

seen an awful lot of tough things. they were universelyuniverselya by this. as you watch it seven years later what goes through your mind? >> i've experienced everything from crying about it to almost just laughing. i've experienced so many emotions and sometimes it's like reliving it and sometimes it's like watching it from a completely third person point of view. it's just really impossible to put all of that into words. >> families in this country struggle with the dilemma of punishing and discipline all the time, to spank or not spank. i think the belt thing seems to cross a line. but was this something that happened regularly in your house? is that why you set that camera up in the room that night? >> it did happen regularly for a period of time, and i could tell because of the pattern that things were escalating again, so i set up my video camera on the dresser and covered the little red light with a scarf. about half an hour after i set the camera up this happened.

and it was amazing that i was able to capture such a thing. >> why did you wait seven years? you've had this video. you clearly are as upset about it today as you were back then. why did you wait seven years? why release it on the internet as opposed to going to authorities with it? >> well, i waited seven years because back then i was still a minor and living under his roof and releasing it then would have, i don't know what would have happened to me or my mother or my little sister so waiting until today seven years later has enabled me to pull away and be able to distance myself from the consequences. >> you released a note accompanying the video, quote, judge william adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can't even exercise fit judgment as a parent himself. do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again. he is not up for re-election right now. i don't think that comes for three years. again, the timing of this is in question. why? >> it just was like i said in that previous video. it was the straw that broke the camel's back. it wasn't any, you know, huge

happening or anything. i just told him i had the video and he didn't seem to think anything of it. and basically dared me to post it. >> do you want him to lose his job? >> i think wishing anybody to lose their job is not a really good thing to kao bdo but -- >> because of the public outcry there is a chance he may be forced to step down even if no criminal charges are filed against him. >> his being fit for the job is something i can't really say that he is. >> haley, let me turn to you because you're in this tape. >> yes. >> we heard nu there saying, turn over. take it like a 16-year-old girl. >> yes. >> i mean, how does a mother not only stand by and watch her husband do that to her daughter but take part in it? >> that's a good question and that's what i had to ask myself. i didn't know about the video until, well, this past april. and this past weekend was the first time i saw it. my answer to you and to the world is something that i've been hiding for a very long time

is a family secret and that's addiction. >> addiction on your part? >> no, sir. >> on his part? >> yes, sir. >> but, still, that doesn't tell me why you participated in and watched it. >> because i lived in an environment of dysfunction and it steadily got worse. i tried to -- i did leave him when she was 6 months old and he ashamed me into going back and i did my best to make -- >> were you afraid for your own safety if you had stood up to this man? >> i was completely brain washed and controlled. i did every single thing that he did. when i leave the room he is telling me what to say, what to do. >> are you ainge grate yongry a? >> no. we are very close now. when i showed her the video she started crying, hasn't stopped apologizing and i forgive her because she knows everything that happened. >> judge adams said on wednesday, quote, i haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing. i did lose my temper but i've since apologized. it looks worse than it is. there is a story. it will come out in due time. what is the story that you think he is referring to?

>> well, i think he feared and didn't understand the internet because the media that i wanted to obtain was overseas and at that time i couldn't have purchased it if i wanted to. so i think there is some controversy there. >> but is there more that's going none this family that i don't know about? you're saying yes. what else there is? >> i think that the story that's going to come out in due time in his mind is that he has projected his problem on to me and for the entire four years since i left the marriage i've been abused and harassed through texts, e-mails. i've had to cut him off talking to him. and this past june i told him i wasn't texting him at all. i wasn't ever talking to him again and he has threatened me to file for modification to take my younger daughter away from me. >> what do you want to see here, hillary? do you want him to get help? >> yes. exactly. >> what is the outcome you're looking for? >> i think he's been punished enough just by seeing this go

public like this and i think he really needs help and rehabilitation. we need to get him counseling or something. >> do you have any regrets releasing this now, now that this has gone so public and so many people have watched it? any regrets? >> i regret some of my friends and some people close to me have kind of had trouble with this and, of course, i regret that it's my own father. i'm having very mixed feelings about that but at the same time so many people are telling me that i did the right thing so there are definitely different emotions. >> hillary and haley adams, thank you so much. we appreciate you both being here. we'll follow this story. >> thank you, matt. it is 7:41. let's check the weather from al. >> thank you. as we look at the temperatures around the country, we've got cooler weather making its way through the central part of the u.s. 40s and 50s from the upper mississippi river valley into the mid ohio river valley. we're also looking at some showers and thunderstorms making their way through the ohio river valley. more wet weather has another storm system moving into the

pacific northwest with windy conditions in central california and we expect plenty of sunshine along the southeastern atlantic that is your latest weather. matt? >> thanks very much. still ahead she says she had to follow her heart. kim kardashian explains on television why she quit her marriage after just 72 days. up next, in the wake of the herman cain scandal, what is harassment? would you know it if you saw it? that's right after this.

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workplace anyway? star jones as veteran legal commentator and former prosecutor and steve adubato is a media analyst and author of "you are the brand." good morning to both of you. sorry, steve. sometimes i speak so fast i trip over myself. >> that's all right. >> legally let's talk about what this is. obviously over the course of years we've been hearing about what harassment is. but it's very difficult to get your hands on. >> think about it this way. visual, verbal, or physical, unwelcome sexual contact that is pervasive or severe, that makes for an uncomfortable work environment or prevents you from doing your job. in layman's term, you said or showed me something or did something of a sexual nature and now i can't do my job. that's really what it is. >> really what you're saying is that it's about how the woman responds to the behavior not a list of behaviors are unacceptable. >> right. there are some very obvious things. if someone taps someone on the

butt or touches a woman's breast or someone shows them pornographic material those are very easy things to determine. but if you're sitting around and telling sexual jokes in a group setting or if there's alcohol involved and somebody is dancing and doing the little dirty dancing, those kinds of things start to make us move the line. >> especially in a work place which is the issue. >> exactly. >> i'll move on to one more question before i get to you, steve. herman cain specifically in this particular case when people hear about this $35,000 settlement, they think, okay. that must be a smoking gun. what does it mean to you? >> in reality it does not mean as much. steve and i were chatting about this. from a corporate environment setting, under $50,000, which is a low level, five-figure settlement, is often considered a nuisance. get rid of it. because my lawyers are going to cost me more. >> not in a presidential campaign. this is the part for me. i defer to star on the legal issues, but herman cain's brand, his only brand, because he is an unknown is i'm an outsider,

nonpolitician. as soon as he gets confronted, i know nothing about this. then he says oh, you meant settlement? i was talking about agreement. well why don't you allow us to see the information, mr. cain? all of a sudden he says, well, there are legal issues. here is the problem with herman cain from a communication, pr, branding point of view. he can't be the candidate he is today, and to his credit he has risen to the top of this field as an unknown and all of a sudden decided he is going to be clintonesque in parcing words. he deceived. he lied, in my opinion, and i'm not saying it's not a big -- you say it's not a big deal. in the corporate world i agree. you run for president as an unknown you are done if you don't handle this well. >> the key really it seems to me is about women voters. >> oh, yes. >> more than that. >> but women's -- women voters are really key here because i don't really frankly know a woman in the work place who has not at one point in her career felt uncomfortable, felt a hostile environment, has not felt sasexually harassed so doe

herman cain's wife have to get out in front? >> but we've seen so many things like this happen. i'd just like to take us back to arnold schwarzenegger. maria was put in a situation where she was out defending her husband and things came out later in life that made it look like oh, gosh. the last thing i should have done is been out there putting myself out i hate to put it this way but man up. here's what i mean by that. and man or woman can do it in a campaign. man up and say, i screwed up. it doesn't mean you get into the legal issues. >> no one is going to do it. >> he has to say, i was responsible for my behavior. i don't know what happened and neither do you. >> he had to say that before we got to this point. now it's the coverup. >> coverup is always worse than the crime. nixon taught us that. here's what you can do. i screwed up in the beginning. i wasn't as honest as i should have been. now i'll try to undo the damage. that is the only chance he has. if not, this campaign is going to be over in a couple weeks. >> i'll have to stop you and let you continue this in the green room. star jones? >> that's where it started.

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8:00 now on this thursday morning, the 7th day of november, 2011, and believe it or not, that means thanksgiving is just three weeks from today! nice to look forward to that and also to say hi to all these good people on our plaza waving to their families back home. i'm ann curry with matt lauer and al roker. coming up we're talking about kim kardashian now speaking out for the first time about her divorce. we'll get details for you about that.

we'll also talk about online dating. say you go online and meet someone who is rich and single. is he lying? we'll meet a woman who started classes for women so they can go snooping online to try and find out what is real and not real when it comes to their online dating. by the way, we should mention this happens both ways. >> right. >> there are women i don't lie online as well. >> yes. this is not the dating world the three of us knew. >> no, no. we have one of our all-time favorites here today. we are so thrilled. julie andrews, of course. ann and meredith last year when we had a "sound of music" reunion right here on today. well, she is back with her real-life daughter to talk about what she has been up to since then. >> all right. it's almost time to say good-bye, [ speaking in other languages ] to take off on our tenth anniversary edition of "where in the world" five great destinations all secret in five great days. probably a few bottles of wine along the way. it all starts on monday here on

"today." you get your first clue tomorrow morning. >> all right. >> you're not going to start with a little something today? >> today? no, no. we don't give you that much time tongue about it. tomorrow you get your first clue. >> all right. we'll wait for that. we're looking forward to it. >> all right. let's head inside. natalie is standing by with the headlines. good morning. a third woman has accused republican presidential candidate herman cain of improper conduct when he was head of the national restaurant association. the woman reportedly considered filing a complaint against cain over sexually suggestive remarks and gestures but she never did. during appearances on capitol hill wednesday, cain refused to answer reporters' questions about the women. two of them received financial settlements after filing complaints. president obama arrived in france this morning for a crucial meeting of the world's economic powers. he said the summit must find a solution to the greek debt crisis, which threatens to engulf europe and the world even as the greek government teetered

on the brink of collapse over austerity measures. some dramatic scenes unfolded overnight in oakland again where police and occupy wall street protesters clashed in the streets. officials say police fired tear gas and used stun grenades after protesters started a large bonfire. the confrontation followed a day of peaceful demonstrations. a new report says military suicides have risen sharply since the wars in afghanistan and iraq began with a veteran committing suicide every 80 minutes. the center for new american security says post traumatic stress, chronic pain, unemployment, and frequent transfers contribute to the trend. military officials say they have made great strides in mental health screening and prevention programs. hazmat crews were on the scene of a freight train derailment and fire this morning in elgin, illinois northwest of chicago. now for a look at what is trending today our quick roundup of what has you talking online. the web is buzzing about a real-life version of the film

"slum dog millionaire." a world government clerk who earns just $30 a week has become the first person to win a million dollars on an indian game show. he is now a national hero. he'll use the windfall to go back to school and maybe buy his first tv set. incredible. this adrenalin pumping video of an unusual police chase is going viral on youtube. as you see it shows the brazilian police pursuing a small plane full of suspected drug runners on a remote air strip. they kept the plane from taking off by bumping it and knocking off a wing. five people were arrested. and the occupy wall street movement has gained traction online since it started and now even has its own rap parody song. take a look. ♪ all you hipies down on wall street banging drums for some media exposure get a job buy a house but don't ever miss a payment because the banks can't wait to foreclose ya ♪ >> seriously talented. i see them on snl soon.

the group is called cult comedy picture show. they taped the parody in new york city's zucotti park the unofficial headquarters of the occupy wall street movement. it is 8:04. let's go back outside to matt and ann. sort of like an snl parody, adam sandler. >> thank you so much. now mr. roker right over here. >> i have a young lady. what's your name? >> georgina. >> i'm number six on your bucket list. >> yes. >> who is number one? >> oprah. >> i can't argue with that. >> then rosie. then martha stewart. then dancing with john travolta. i forget -- >> okay. i think we're done. here we go. a long list. good luck with that. let's check your weather. we'll see what's happening, boise, idaho. news channel 7 cloudy, cool, 52 degrees. and we've got that pesky storm system in the mid section of the country. that's the one that dumped about 10 inches in denver.

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for divorce from basketball player kris humphries. >> it's hurtful but first and foremost i have to follow my heart. >> reporter: as the sisters repeatedly reminded viewers about their line of handbags. >> that's why we're here is for the launch of our handbags line. >> they were repeatedly asked about kim's romantic baggage. >> how hard did you work at keeping it together? >> reporter: forcing her to defend herself against accusations that her short-lived marriage was a made for tv show-mance. >> you have to listen to your intuition and follow your heart. there is no right or wrong thing to do. >> reporter: monday in l.a. she filed for divorce from her husband of just 72 days citing irreconcilable differences. it followed a very public romance, much of it taped for her reality show on our sister network e! >> people have had a negative reaction because they feel they've been duped. >> translator: is said they pocketed $18 million for the

wedding prompting many to wond fer the quickie marriage was a money making sham, something kim was quick to refute. >> there has been from the start so many rumors of money and dollar signs of all these things thrown up in the air, so much of it not being true. >> reporter: speaking on the "today" show wednesday kardashian's mother chris jenner also denied a wedding for profit. >> they made some money for the pictures that were sold and things like that, but at the end of the day that money went toward the wedding. >> how much money did she make for the photographs? >> i don't know what the end result was but it was less than a million dollars. >> okay. >> probably more than a half a million dollars. >> reporter: still, some just aren't buying it. >> does anybody in here believe that kim kardashian did not profit off the wedding? >> to sit there and say they're not profiting is insulting to everybody watching. >> step back please. >> reporter: now from kardashian a rare plea for privacy. >> you want to kind of like have

some time for yourself and have some private time, it's like you're not really allowed to. >> reporter: in a post on her blog kardashian said she will be donating the money from her wedding gifts to the dream foundation. the dream foundation confirmed they received a substantial contribution they said will help hundreds of families. >> all right. mara schiavocampo this morning, thank you so much. meantime, she has dazzled the world with her smile but katherine the duchess of cambridge rarely speaks in public. that changed on wednesday when katherine and prince william teamed up with another group of european royals for a good cause. nbc's michelle koesinski is at buckingham palace with this story. >> reporter: william and katherine flew to denmark to team up with the crowned prince and princess there. this was hardly a glitzy charity event but a visit to an emergency supply event for africa. they realize when they pay attention to something everyone does and for the first time in a long time we heard kate's voice.

they arrived, princes in one car, princesses in another, on a cold copenhagen day. katherine glowing in a ruby coat with a big belt and suede stilettos but the focus was this gigantic unicef emergency supply center. that is the scale of need in east africa during the worst drought in 50 years. they were briefed with danish crown prince frederick and wife mary, kind of the william and kate of scandinavia. she is an australian commoner who met her prince in a bar during the sydney olympics. they got a look at the nutritious paste given to starving children which william couldn't wait to try. they all did, except kate. william now conquers these events diving in with constant humor. you can almost see katherine growing in confidence, here chatting with an aid worker, eagerly packing boxes and she

had to be stopped for a second. easy, princess. >> we appreciate so much they had time to come here and refocus again the awareness of the problem in east africa. >> reporter: experts here say east africa used to see drought about every ten years but lately it's been every two. princess mary, mother of four including 9-month-old twins, traveled to kenya in august. though her husband cut her off mid sentence -- >> yes, absolutely. we've both -- >> everybody high and low to raise awareness. >> reporter: every royal got a turn. >> what's going on in east africa really puts things into perspective of how terrible a crisis can actually get. >> reporter: then in a very soft voice, a slow start. >> katherine, you're hoping people will dig deep? >> really hope so. definitely. i'm shocked by some of the statistics and i think other people will be if they've lost track of this story. it's really just how shocking the situation still is. it's been going for a hundred days or so and it's really still

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>> rollers and recon. >> it is very easy for someone to lie online and pretend they're somebody that they're not. i'm just going to plug in his name. >> reporter: her research goes beyond google. abigail is searching a criminal data base. >> so it looks like none of the dates of birth are his which is really good. you really never know in this city who you are meeting and frankly it does make my mom a little happier when i talk to her about my dates that she knows i am equipped to handle them. >> reporter: it wasn't her mother that prompted abigail to investigate her date. >> if you're uncomfortable, get up and get out. >> reporter: it was this woman. >> people who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. >> reporter: 35-year-old maria founded investidate. she moon lights as an investigative guru for single women anxious to avoid potential hazards of online data. not only has maria seen it all -- swindlers, men who lead double lives, she also has experienced that pain first hand. >> he was cheating on me using facebook to solicit women,

posted three dozen a month, and when i found out i was crushed. i have been through the trenches. i am in the trenches. i have lived through various situations and met several people that will stay with me forever in the lessons that i've learned. >> reporter: she is a real life kerry bradshaw but instead of a column maria turns her stories of heart break into classes. >> i broke up with him on our third date when i found out he was married. >> reporter: for $20 a pop she teaches women from everything to how to decipher a dated photo to tracking down restraining orders. this is abigail's second class. >> i dated someone for a long period of time who turned out to be a pathological liar and that was very difficult. i think she has inspired me that i have the confidence and the tools to move forward and really start dating again. >> with investidate i am trying to protect women against physical danger, financial danger, and emotional harm. >> reporter: though the methods maria teaches are legal, experts say digging too deep can have its own pitfalls. >> if someone is taking a class learning how to catch a liar in the dating process it's feeding

into a paranoia that doesn't lead to healthy dating. >> reporter: maria says investidate is all about taking the fear out of dating. >> i really want to empower people to be out there and dating safely, and if that means it's a little harder for me to get a date that's fine. i know when i do, i'll get someone who is well aware of what i do and knows he needs to be on his best behavior. >> maria is the founder of investidate and robbie ludwig is a psycho therapist. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> i was thinking back in the day you met someone in your neighborhood, you want to have dinner with that person. probably ten people in your neighborhood could give you references. but the internet is like one vast neighborhood. we can't do that these days can we? >> no. you can be anybody online. >> how far do you want people to go with this? i mean, you know, name, date, serial number, no criminal record. how much more? >> you know, i just want people to feel comfortable with their decision of who they're going out with so i want them to look at the different things

available and if they feel they need to dig deeper they've got those tools so they are empowered to do so. >> reporter: do you encourage women to be honest with the person -- we make a date. right? we'll have dinner. do you call that person and say by the way, before we meet for dinner i am going to run a complete background search on you just to make everything -- make sure everything is okay? >> it's about what is right for you. if you feel more comfortable letting that person know you've researched them that is fine. if you don't want to you don't have to. you are just making sure you're prepared. >> robbie better safe than sorry pops into my mind. >> sure. >> what else pops into my mind is this idea when you meet someone one of the nice things about developing a relationship is slowly learning about that person. >> right. you don't want to show up at a date like you're arresting somebody with some handcuffs. yes, you want to make yourself comfortable, but in some cases what you're researching you'll never find, whether a person can be the right mate for you, whether they're capable of intimacy. and then what do you do once you find out information that you really may not know how to make

sense out of? what if you fine something online that was true five years ago? we don't know who the person is sitting in front of us. so, yes. you don't have the advantage of being within a community like the old days where you can ask your best friend what this guy is like. >> right. >> so do your due diligence but he can't tell you everything. >> maria do you think people will be surprised at how much information they can find about average people? i think you can go on and find about celebrities but about average people? >> there's tons of information online about you, about me, about everybody. it's from your address to your phone number to, there is this website spy dialer that you actually type in somebody's cell phone number and you can dial in right to their voice mail. you can hear their voice, their message. >> now you're starting to creep me out a little bit. what does it tell us not about the person you're searching about but the person doing the searching? do they lack trust? >> well, they may lack trust. they might be a little paranoid. they may not believe there are

good men or women out there who want a relationship. the fact is there are good people who want true intimacy. >> it is clearly something that i think will touch a nerve with a lot of people. maria, thank you very much. robi, always good to see you. 24 after the hour still ahead former kiss guitarist ace frehley tells a lot about time in that band. but first, your local news and weather.

>> live, local, latebreaking. this is wbal tv 11 news today in baltimore. >> good morning. i am mindy basara. let's get by on a check of the morning commute with sarah caldwell. >> not much progress. accident southbound 795 approaching owings mills. the backup stretches back to reisterstown road. left lane closure, a multiple of vehicles involved. definitely going to be a well before it clears out. you can see we have an accident at liberty and marriottsville road. another one at westminster. indiantown road and windsor

road. delays in usual spots. extra heavy on the north side outer loop because of the accident on the j.f.x. eastbound coldspring, delays and closures at roland ave. quick live look outside. here is what it looks like at franklin. not too pretty southbound. we will switch to a live view of par for did they back up as well beginning prior to 95. now we check in with john collins. >> a few wispy clouds overhead, but a very nice morning. it should hold up during the day. assistant to the west -- most, but not all of it will past the hour south, but we will see. 58 tomorrow. slight shock or chance. most of the day will be fine. saturday looks dry. turn the clock back on sunday. we can enter early next week, at dry.

>> we will have another update at 8:26 -- another update at 8:56.

8:30 now on a thursday morning, the 3rd day of november, 2011. marathon weekend coming up here in new york city. probably some runners in the crowd this morning. we wish them all well. and coming up in this half hour, a guy who made a fortune by wearing makeup. no, not mr. roker. we're talking about ace frehley, the guitarist for the rock group, kiss. he has a new book out.

he talks about some of the stories during his years with that group, some up, some down, some of the stories fascinating and he is a colorful character. we'll talk to ace in just a little while. >> that's richght. somebody is going to make you happy just to look at her. julie andrews is in our studio. just say her name and everyone starts cheering. of course she is the singer, actress, and has written a series of children's books with her daughter. they'll talk about their latest book in a few moments. we'll head into the kitchen with one of our favorite top chef judges. >> hi, guys. >> and she's got a nice, healthy twist to sloppy joes that'll have your kids happy. >> that is a comfort food. >> we love sloppy joes. what you need to know about before you get a new credit or debit card. >> good. a programming note. we've already told you we have a live justin bieber concert

coming up on the day before thanksgiving, november 23rd. but you should know that tomorrow justin bieber is going to stop by here to do a little talking with us about some things going on in his life, his new album, and whatever else is making headlines. so that's tomorrow morning right here on "today." >> that's exciting. >> first can we do something? can we bring in mark harmon? our favorite guy around here who happens to be starting a new -- mark, good morning. >> great to see you. >> good to have you here. one of the cutest men on tv. i'm telling you. >> wow. >> we'll talk about this movie but i want to talk about the fact that i have known you for 25 years. you have never aged. not one bit. what is the deal with that? >> makeup. >> no it's not. unbelievable. >> what are you drinking? we want to know. >> come on. spill your secrets. >> lucky. i don't know. >> good genes apparently. >> don't know how to answer that. >> tell me about the movie. >> it's called "certain prey" john sanford, best selling author. i'm excited to be in business

with usa. it is a very different role for me and one that i've kind of helped bring along from the very beginning. >> what attracted you to it? >> great character and very different than what i'm doing on the show on "ncis" and something that if it does well, he's written 22 of these novels, so this is the first maybe of many. >> book tenth is bas, so the ho they'll turn these out. >> you have to watch it and we'll see. >> you bring so much credibility to your roles. i think that is one reason we love to watch you. a lot of people i think are thinking fondly of the woman you married from her "mork and mindy" days. how is pam dawber doing these days? >> she was fine when i left yesterday. she's great. >> she is so great. we should mention "ncis" has its 200th episode premiering in january on the 31st. >> we've been doing it for nine years. that's high school and college plus one year of grad school.

>> unbelievable. sounds like a party is in order. >> it's still doing very, very well. it's a number one show and is a great cast and crew and it's one to appreciate certainly. >> congratulations. >> nice to have you, mark. good to see you. we want to tell people "certain prey" premieres sunday 9:00, 8:00 central time on our sister don't forget you can get

your weather any time of the day or night. go to the weather channel on cable or satellite or weather.com. when we come back julie andrews and her daughter will sit down with ann but first this is "today" on nbc.

♪ you meet your prince, a charming prince ♪ >> julie andrews is one of the most beloved actresses of our time and also humanitarian as well. and earlier this week she was honored by the princess grace foundation for her dedication to the performing arts. julie and her daughter emma walton hamilton are the authors as well of a series of popular children's books called "the very fairy princess." julie and emma, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> first of all, congratulations on this big honor. prince albert said about you, every aspect of her tremendous career is testament to demanding the best of one's self while giving back with equal passion. what has inspired, julie, this

passion for all these years in you? >> i just think when one is as blessed as i think i have been, i think it's just absolutely right to give back all the time because it's somehow, i think it's expected and should be part of what one does if one is lucky enough to do something one loves. give it back. help guide or teach or set an example. i don't know, ann. i do feel very fortunate. >> that sense of gratitude is i think inspiring for all of us. i think that's something all of us might be able to benefit from. >> well thank you. >> and there is a character in this book who actually kind of knows about that lesson it seems to me and fittingly she is a royal. >> she thinks she is. >> a want to be. >> she believes she is. >> and you've collaborated with how many of these books so far? >> over 20 now. i think we just finished our 22nd. >> and in this particular book, geraldine encounters a very difficult disappointment doesn't she, emma? >> she does.

>> she does in virtually every book. >> in almost every book. yes. she does think that she is a fairy princess. she believes herself to be a fairy princess, and she therefore imagines that she will be cast as a fairy princess in her ballet company's performance of "the crystal princess" and is dismayed to find out she has been cast as the sequestjester . with a red and yellow costume that makes her look like a boy. >> but in true princess fashion she rises above it. >> yes. >> speaking of rising above it. >> yes? >> you were a great princess, too the other day. >> oh, no. you mentioned that. well, you know, leave it to the makeup team because i tell you i was terrified to play the role of a woman half my age. anyway. moving on. it was sensational. >> let's talk about -- you have a daughter named hope and you are the grandmother of hope and so how much has hope inspired you in this? >> i'll let emma take that one. >> because you really write this

character geraldine and in reading this i was just delighted by the fact that i hear a child's voice as she goes through this journey of disappointment and wonder. >> thank you. that is the nicest thing you could say to a pair of writers. >> we're learning about her too. >> she is very much inspired by my daughter hope and hope is every bit a princess in training. >> and a little bit of a diva sometimes. but a delicious one. >> a wonderful girl. >> there she is. >> and she is in a little ballet company called hampton ballet theater company. and this story was loosely modeled after that. >> don't tell me she sings as well. >> she does, ann. lovely. we want some of that. >> and she plays piano. >> she has a lovely voice. it's true and on pitch and she sings all day long which we've incorporated into the book. >> a lot of what you incorporate into the book is this idea of finding your inner sparkle. right? >> yes. >> i think this is interesting not just for children but for all of us. how -- what is your sense about how we can all find our inner

sparkle? how do we encourage it in our children? >> i think it's just by listening and watching them very carefully and picking up exactly, hopefully at the right moment, on something that they say they love or want to do and giving them the kind of dignity of being an equal. i don't think i ever talked down to the kids very much. >> no, never. >> she didn't talk down to you ever? >> maybe once in a while. >> really. >> and we try very hard not to talk down to kids in the books that we write, too. it's terribly important to respect them and to give them the dignity to stretch up. >> actually the first and second book of being repurposed with new covers for this christmas. they'll be coming out this christmas. there is a third in the series coming out in april which, in fact, is going to coincide with something we've been working on for a long time, which is national princess week. very fairy princess week. >> the tenth anniversary of "the princess diaries."

>> exactly right. everything quite happily has come together. the corporation has expressed a wonderful interest in joining us on the project. disney, also. and other major companies are going to come aboard and april 22nd is going to be our national princess week. >> it will coincide with the release of the next book in the series, which is "a very fairy princess, here comes the flower girl." >> a very busy life. and to see that you enjoy this together is lovely. >> we hope to just in that week bring out the kind of unique quality of every little girl and find their inner sparkle. >> well, your inner sparkle makes us all feel, julie, whenever you walk into the studio, that the queen has arrived. >> she is a fine one to talk. >> julie andrews and emma walters hamilton, thank you so much. the series is called "the very fairy princess." coming up next, former kiss guitarist ace frehley on a life filled with sex, drugs, and rock

'n roll. but first, this is "today" on nbc.

♪ i want to rock 'n roll all night ♪ legendary band kiss has had fans rocking and rolling for nearly 40 years but former guitarist ace frehley says when the makeup came off sometimes the back stage drama would begin. he writes about that, the band's rise to worldwide fame, his own struggles with drugs and alcohol, and his eventual departure from kiss in his new book called "no regrets, a rock 'n roll memoir." good to have you here. >> great to be here. >> i think anybody who watched kiss over the years, probably the thought crossed their mind that you guys dabbled in drugs a little bit when they got to see you. >> a little bit. >> just a bit. how big a part of the band's existence was it? >> it wasn't so much paul or gene. mostly me and peter were the bad

guys when it came to that. but, you know, over the years it escalated and, luckily, i caught it in time and, you know, today i'm five years sober. you know, every day above ground is a good day. >> is a good day. you dabbled with drugs as a kid. when you got to a rock band -- >> not so much as a kid. it was more alcohol when i was a kid. >> did you feel when you got to a rock band it was in some ways expected of you, it was just part of the scene? >> well, it was a big part of the scene. i mean, you got to realize, you know, studio 54 and the whole scene of manhattan in the '70s a lot of people were doing cocaine. you know? most people were doing it openly. >> and i don't want to make light of the addiction because it took a toll and is a very serious subject but you do write something that caught my attention in this. you guys actually developed a code name for cocaine. do you want to share it with our viewers? >> we called it betty white. you know? >> why would you pick on poor

betty white? >> if i was going to a partied' call my buddy and say is betty going to be there and if he said she said yes then we know what would be there. >> she is the personification of good. >> it is the perfect name. she is such a great lady. and i just love her to death. >> you write a lot in the book about your relationship with gene simmons. obviously your band mate. it was an up-and-down relationship. what was the source of the tension when the tension existed? >> i made those guys very nervous. there were times they thought i'd never make it on stage to finish the show or even begin a show but somehow some way i always ended up, you know, coming through. a lot of people think there was a love/hate relationship going on with me and gene. it appears that way more to the people outside looking in but, you know, me and gene actually have a good relationship. i had lunch with him at the beverly hills hotel about five weeks ago. >> but you do write, you call him a loner. you question whether he had a sex addiction. >> true. >> you say he tried to rewrite

kiss's history by downplaying your contributions to the band? >> absolutely. >> have you talked to him about that? >> no. >> why not? you had lunch with him a month ago. >> but i wanted to keep it light. i haven't seen him since we received the vh 1 rock honors award. i just wanted to re-establish communication because it had been five years and just let him know that i'm clean and sober and i just kind of want to wipe the slate clean and, you know, look toward the future. >> i also got the sense that you felt gene simmons was more about commercializing the band. >> very business like. >> and you seem to want to be more in the rock 'n roll art for art's sake. >> one of the reasons i left the band was i got into rock 'n roll because here i am. you get paid for something you love to do. it wasn't fun anymore, it was time to go. toward the end it wasn't fun anymore. >> gene simmons gave us a statement when we reached out to him. he said we love ace and wish him the best. sobriety isn't easy and he needs to surround himself with people

who care enough about him to be tough on him. ace will win. i know it. >> hell of a guy. >> you're talking in the book about how some of your shows after a while became less about being free wheeling, spontaneous rock concert and became more like broadway shows. you even talk about how choreographed they became and they were dangerous after a while thenchts had while. >> they had to be choreographed because we had smoke bombs and flash pots and all sorts of stuff so if you're at the wrong place at the wrong time you get blown up literally. >> you get your head blown off. you were supposed to be there. that's why you got a flash pot in the head. >> gene's hair went on fire a couple times. >> you hated playing the song "i was made for loving you." why? >> my wrist used to cramp up. i played that chug-a chug-a and my wrist is ready to fall off. plus it had a disco feel to it. i was never a big disco guy. >> when you look back, every kid

or a lot of kids dream of being rock stars. you've lived it. now extricated yourself from it. was it everything you expected it would be? >> everything and more. but, you know, there was also a dark side to it and a lot of that had to do with my addictions. but luckily, you know, i was able to conquer my demons. i'm excited about being an author. >> are you kidding? after all these years. >> from guitar guy to author. >> ace frehley, great to see you. >> thank you so much. >> good to have you here. you'll be back with hoda and kathie lee in the fourth hour. the book is called "no regrets, a rock 'n roll memoir." up next, our top chef whips up some sloppy joes. we'll head upstairs for that. first, this is "today" on nbc.

this morning in "today's kitchen" a lighter, healthier version of an old classic, sloppy joes, easy as 1, 2, 3. the recipe is easy on your waist line and your budget we're told. we have the host of bravo's hit show "top chef" which is hitting the road and heading to texas for its ninth season. good morning. >> good morning. >> you still having fun on "top chef?" >> i am. this time the season is much bigger, there are more chefs. we have two extra episodes and we move every week and then that i think put an extra level of tension and anticipation into

the competition for the contestants. it's a great season. we're in texas and we go to dallas and austin and san antonio. >> okay. that sounds like a busy schedule. >> it was. >> this morning you're saving us some money with this lovely comfort food. >> yes. >> you make it in a lighter way. let me ask if your daughter likes this lighter version. >> actually i make a version that is vegetarian for her because she doesn't eat turkey or meat yet. >> but she does like sloppy joes? >> she loves sloppy joes. she gets sloppy no matter what she eats. >> how old is she now? >> she is 20 months. >> a baby. >> that is the good thing about this recipe is we're going to make it today with turkey and basically i've just sauteed some onions, garlic, and bell pepper. once that kind of browns slightly i'm adding turkey meat. now, this is a pound of meat. instead of making it with beef or pork i'm adding 12 ounces of turkey meat and four ounces of beef. here's why.

it's healthier but it's also, with the four ounces of beef, you still get a little bit of the luxuriousness and richness of red meat. what i would suggest is i've slowly -- you start cutting back on that beef. go to three ounces and two ounces. cheaper cuts of meat like chuck are very flavorful and chuck is about $4 a pound. and so for $1 you can just add four ounces and you'll get, you know, you can ask your butcher to grind it up. it gives you a little bit of that richness of beef. but it also, you know, is much more healthy. you can add cauliflower, beans, lentils. the sloppy joe is a perfect place to add all kinds of vegetables and sneak them in for your family. you can keep stirring that up. >> this is what you've got here. >> this is bround. >> you used some herbs in here. >> i did. this is oregeno, red chile

and -- >> just dump it all in. you want this a little spicy because it goes between two pieces of bread. >> just stir that up. i'm adding plum tomatoes and then i've dissolved a little six-ounce portion of tomato paste in two cups of hot water. you know how when you add tomato paste to something it is always hard to mix up because it's so thick? the way i get rid of that problem is just dissolve it in some water which you'll need for this anyway. and then basically all you do is let this cook down, add some pepper and some salt. and stir. again, to this you can add kale. >> kale? >> wow. >> yeah. here we have a carrot and coriander salad which is really easy and an alternative to the rich cole slaws laden with mayonnaise. i'm adding sesame seed.

zatchaw powder, a middle eastern seasoning that has oregeno and thyme and sumac which grows in this country. they use it for colds. and sesame seed. it is beautiful. they use it in mediterranean cooking and also in syria and turkey and middle eastern dishes and it makes a great dip and also a great sprinkling spice for salads. there you have it. >> nice. >> you always make food look so good. >> thank you. >> it smells so good. we have much more coming up right after this. >> live, local, latebreaking. this is wbal-tv 11 news today in baltimore. >> good morning. i am mindy basara. life plus 20 was the sentence handed down to the hit man convicted of killing a gas station owner. the jury gave up all the bishop

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