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>> reporter: elisa, 17 years younger than larry and he was in love. >> he said she's just fun and vif ashs and she's young and we have a good time. >> she doesn't stand in the way. she wanted her dad to be happy. >> you welcome the new person in. it's my dad, so i didn't want anything that would inhibit me from spending time with him. >> reporter: and he really carried for this woman? >> he did. >> reporter: larry and elisa thrived both personally and professionally. they got married. elisa became his office manager. they opened up a firm in sacramento, california. another big success. so they hired a young, attractive college student named sara dutira, the outgoing daughter of deeply religious

parents. she became a friend as well as office assistant. together elisa and larry enjoyed the high life. >> she was into the same thing that larry loved. and style. they went out and bought viper cars together. >> reporter: they also shared larry's newest passion, quarter hors horses. >> larry would show horses and show himself, which fit in with larry looking good and feeling good. >> reporter: larry could do more of what he liked while sara pitched in to help run the business end of the law practice. though larry's friend fred was a stick in the mud about it. the fact that she took control of his business allowed him to engage in drinking and partying. >> reporter: which is not really what larry needed. >> no, he didn't need that. but his appetites would run amuck.

>> reporter: so when, after nearly seven years of marriage, larry suddenly dropped out of sight, close friends weren't extremely alarmed at first. after all he had gone on drunken benders before. but this time, as days stretched into weeks, it seemed different, kind of odd. ginger miller started working at the law firm as a secretary in september 2001, about the time larry went missing. elisa kept the business going in his absence, but couldn't settle on what the staff should tell people about larry. >> i was told to tell his kids and different people different things. so i was told that he was golfing or skiing, someplace they couldn't get a hold of him. >> reporter: it was obvious bs? >> yes. i would have to say he was working on a deposition, with another client, he had to fly out. >> reporter: larry's kids didn't know what to think. >> i said to my brother, this doesn't sound right approximate why do the stories keep

changing? >> reporter: october arrived. no larry. thanksgiving. in december, he was always with male on his birthday. but still no sign of larry. >> i didn't get a good feeling. what i worried about was, had something gone wrong and dad was scared and he took off? >> reporter: had larry encountered the wrong person? >> you have to look at it two ways. if he's in hiding, he's not going to be happy you found him. because he's hiding for a reason. or, something's happened to him. >> reporter: meanwhile back at the office, ginger of hearing things. until she just couldn't keep it in anymore. >> i went to the sheriff's department. i wasn't sure what to do. i just asked for a piece of paper, and i slid it under the window. >> reporter: detectives got her

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2002, while the rest of us were getting used to a post 9/11 normal, it seemed clear something abnormal must have happened to larry mcnabney. nobody had seen him for five he'd ner been on a bender for this long. now his wife a lisa was missing to by this time, jingeer had dropped off her note to the sheriff's office and detectives were poking around in the abandoned remains of larry's law practice. talking to employees like sara dutira, the attractive 21-year-old art student who worked at the mcnabney law firm as an office secretary. she brought her dog with her to the sheriff's office. she told the detectives that she and eampt lisa had become close friends so, she, sara, certainly noticed how erratic alisa became after larry went missing.

>> things were starting to not seem right. like, you know. >>r. >> reporter: sara confirmed that alisa kept changing hear explanations for larry's whereabouts. sara said she saw elisa signing larry's name on checks and business transactions. >> i figured she'd keeping this business going for him, you know, so he can go play or whatever. >> reporter: in early january 2002, alisa planned a trip to arizona, to attend a horse show. in the absence of larry, invited sara to go along. >> i was going to fly down the next day and then she told me, you know, your ticket's paid for, and all that. >> reporter: but when sara got to the airport, the ticket was not paid for. so then you call her cellphone number and what did you get? >> nothing. it was, this number is no longer

in use. >> reporter: and that was that, said sara. she hadn't heard from alisa since. >> i actually called ginger and said, ginger, i don't know about you but elisa's gone. >> reporter: then psecutor thas testa had handled a number of missin g pring person cases. >> he was an attorney with a case load who just disappeared. this isn't someone who say homeless person who took a greyhound to nevada. >> testa began by taking a good hard look at alisa. >> she was a person out of a '40s film noir movie. she was ace stunner and had control over men that amazed me. she was able to say "jump" and the men would say, how high?"

>> it seemed true for larry, so said his friend fred atchison. >> she was keeping him away from his family and former friends. >> reporter: did that include the relationship he had with you? >> no question about it. >> reporter: you found yourself shut out? >> yeah. >> reporter: so did larry's daughter. >> alisa completely cut me out of the picture. and i was devastated. >> reporter: but why? what did she have to hide? >> he called me up once on the phone and said, fred, i don't know who she is. i thought, he meant, well, we don't ever really know who our spouses are deep down. he said no, i don't even know if this is who she is, if her name is what she said it is or anything. >> reporter: by then, larry had discovered ample reason to stop trusting alisa. >> he couldn't keep his wallet in his pants. >> reporter: he told you that? >> yeah.

she would steal money out of his wallet. he had to hide it in his own house. >> reporter: she was also stealing from the law firm opinion. >> she ripped him off over $100,000. >> reporter: larry told friend about his troubles with alisa, yet he kept her around. not like he hadn't divorced women before. tafia didn't get it. >> he always said she has this hold over me, and i never understood what that meant. >> reporter: his suspicions about not knowing his wife, they turned out to be true. the woman behind the name alisa mcnabney, had a rap witee stol operty, credit card fraud, grand theft. >> she had a way to use her female charms, and she was very, very good at it. she was a true and true con

artist. so was alisa just conning larry? surely, thought fred, she wouldn't have done away with him. >> it woonts have made sense even for a dedicated pole cat to do something like that, because he was the goose that laid the golden egg. it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. >> reporter: it was a farm worker who noticed a flock of vultures or buzzards drifting above one of these grape fields. saw something sticking out of the ground. soon a missing person's case turned into something much, much worse. and considerably more bizarre. ♪

♪ >> reporter: it was february 2002. a remote vinyard up in the northern end of california's central valley. a farm worker checking the outer reaches a giant field of grapes, dn't help but see the big birds flying round and round. something out there. >> vultures were circling. he spotted them, went out to see what they were circling. >> reporter: investigator javier ramos worked with the sheriff's department at the time and were among the first on the scene. >> a dead animal out there. >> he said that. just some dead animal out there. >> reporter: but it wasn't a dead animal. the leg that was sticking out of the ground would decidedly human. soon larry's daughter tavia heard the news. >> i got a call from the

sheriff's department. i felt myself get really hot and nauseous. and she said that the body they found, the dental records, it was him. and i remember, i never swear and a yelled out this cuss word, and i slammed down the phone, and i just started shaking. it was a moment in time that i've never felt such anguish. >> reporter: still raw even now. >> it is. because i thought -- i don't know. i thought -- i guess i was hoping he was in hiding. >> very fortunate that the body was discovered and now we can move on and investigate a homicide. >> reporter: homicide? oh, yes. ample proof now, five months after he vanished. larry had been murdered. and left to rot out here in the

middle of nowhere. >> there weren't any stab wounds or bullet holes. >> reporter: there were no obvious signs of larry's cause of death. so they looked further and found something very unusual. >> the medical examiner was able to find out that the cause of death was poisoning with a horse tranquilizer. >> reporter: horse tranquilizer? >> yes. >> reporter: now that was strange. but get this. >> he'd been dead for an extended period of time. however, the body had not decomposed consistent with the time frame that we were looking at. >> meaning? >> that it was preserved, kept cold. >> one of the things that i thought, where would the person that killed larry, where would they have access to a large refrigerator, large enough to hold a human body? >> reporter: detectives wanted answer. so did tavia. >> when i would go to sleep at

night, i would wake up and hear him calling for me to help him. i didn't know what to do. i didn't understand what was going on. >> reporter: sometimes people get a sense of knowing either what or who was responsible. did u? a had done soth >> rorter: larry's mh unger wife elisa. she vanished a few months after he did. now lry was dead, she was the prime suspect in his murder. they finally tracked her down in march 2002 in florida. >> she cut her hair short and changed her name. >> elisa was now going by the name of shane iavaroni and was working as a para legal at a law firm. >> she was a very smart person with 140 iq. >> she could talk anybody into anything? >> that's right.

>> but now she was exposed as a con artist and in custody, elisa decided to tell her story, starting at long last, with her legal name. >> my whole name isularen, la n l-a-r-e l-a-r-e-n. my middle name is renee, ren r-e-n-e r-e-n-e-e. my maiden name is sims, si-i-ms. and where is that coming from? >> no. i left florida. you know, i mean, i was a fugitive from florida. >> reporter: elisa, or laren, was from massachusetts, a mother of two. she was wanted in florida for violating probation on a burglary and theft charge and had been on the run for nine years. settling in las vegas where she met larry and by this time had changed her name to alis she told the pice she was at the horse show in arizo when

she found out police wanted to talk to her about larry. so she could off in her jaguar, drove from state to state. >> where were you headed at this point? >> i didn't -- just away. i didn't know where. >> reporter: so with the preliminaries out of the way, now came the big question. what happened to larry mcnabney? elisa, without hesitation, and without even being asked, spilled the beans. >> and did i kill my husband? yes, i killed my husband. >> reporter: there it was. no apology. no evasion. she simply confessed to killing her husband, larry mcnabney. but -- and this was a butt with a capital b. that wasn't the whole story. not even close. coming up, the rest of the story. did elisa have help? >> and i freaked out. >> she was going to throw him in the hole alive?

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>> reporter: tre is a purity to confession, a real cleansing of the soul. and now, after months on the lam, elisa mcnabbly, akaularen sims, was letting go, not holding back. yes, she killed her husband of nearly seven years, but, she said, it wast her idea. i said, i don't know what i'm going to do. and she said, we have to kill him. i said, i can't kill him. >> reporter: "she" said? who was this other woman who pushed elisa to commit murder? turned out detectives had

already talked with her. remember sarah dutra, the young secretary, elisa's friend, who came in with her little dog and had been so helpful to detectives after larry and elisa disappeared? now elisa was saying that killing larry was sarah's idea. >> i never would have thought that up on my own. >> reporter: elisa told the story this way. larry was a heavy drinker and drug user. he was abusive, she claimed, and she feared for her life. one day she said she confided in her young friend sarah, and sarah said there was just one thing to do -- kill larry mcnabney. now in this three-hour-long interview, elisa went into detail after gruesome detail how she and sarah did it. elisa and larry were at a horse show in los angeles, she said, d sarah flew down to meet them, or, rath, to meet elis since larry didn'tike sarah. >> and what did you decide to do

with him? >> we said, if we kill him, nobody's going to miss him. >> were you going to do it like that day or some other time in the future? when were you guys planning on doing it? >> right then. >> right then and there? >> yeah. >> reporter: that was september 9, 2001. according to elisa, larry had already passed out, after drinking some horse tranquilizer on his own for fun. so sarah decided, according to elisa, to just give him more, and no one would ever find out. >> oh, god, it seemed like a good idea at the time. but, oh, my god, it's so hoible to think of taking somebody's life. >> reporter: while larry slept, said elisa, she and sarah squirted drops of horse tranquilizer into his mouth. but larry didn't die. instead, the next day on september 10th, larry got up, showed his horse, and then went

right back to bed. >> next morning he's, like, lying there. and i thought he was dead. so i wake sarah up and i say, i think he's dead. and she pushes him and she said, no, he's not dead. >> reporter: but he was so heavily drugged he couldn't walk. >> so we went down the street and rented a wheelchair and i got him dressed and put him in the wheelchair. and we rolled him out to our truck. and put him in the back seat of the truck, and we drove. >> reporter: this, by the way, was september 11, 2001. everyone else in the known world preoccupied elsewhere. well, elisa and sarah drove north through california with larry slowly dying in the back seat of the truck. >> we stopped in yosemite, somewhere in yosemite, and sarah got out and started digging a hole. and he was alive, okay? and i freaked out. >> she was going to throw him in

the hole alive. >> yes. and i was freaking out. i said, we can't put him in there. he's alive. we can't do that. >> reporter: so, she said, they drove on. they thought larry would die in the car. but he didn't. so, when they finally made it back it to larry and elisa's home near sacramento, larry was slipping in and out of consciousness, still alive. >> and then when 6:00 in the morning rolls around, the sun starts coming up, sarah sleeps late, you know, and so i immediately go up there. and he was dead. >> reporter: that was the morning of september 12. >> and sarah says, well, we can't leave him lying here. so, you know, we take the sheet that he was lying on and we wrapped it around him and took duct tape and wrapped it around him. and he was like in a crouch position.

and then in my garage he had this wine refrigerator, you know, like a regular refrigerator, but he ordinarily kept wine in it. so we took the wine out of it and we took the racks out of it and put him in it. >> reporter: stuck larry's body in the refrigerator while they decided what to do with it. >> we talked about burying him in the backyard. we talked about burying him over at my trainer's. we talked about taking him in the desert and burning the body. >> reporter: but they couldn't quite decide and so they kept larry's body in the refrigerator for three months, and then they decided to take it to las vegas, find someplace there to bury it. >> how much does he weigh? >> he weighed about -- a lot. >> i'm having a hard time seeing you two picking up this big guy. >> we laid the trailer tire down in front of the refrigerator, opened the door and laid the

trailer tire down, slide him out, put him on the trailer tire and then back the jag up really close to the trailer tire and then it was only like that much difference so then we just pushed. >> off the tire into the trunk? >> exactly. and he was like shaped like this, you know. so then we put him in the trunk and he was like this. and we closed the trunk and we went to las vegas. >> reporter: en route to las vegas with their two dogs in the back seat, larry in the trunk, along with two shovels. once there, sarah hung out at a hotel with the dogs. elisa went out looking for a burial place for larry. but, when she started digging, she said the ground was too hard. >> and so i went back to the hotel and told her, i can't do it. and then all this time he's in the trunk and the valet's parking us and it's not good, you know? >> reporter: so elisa said they drove back to california and the

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driving force behind it. >> what do you think elisa's doing right about now? >> she's lying about what really happened. >> are you a cold-blooded killer? or are you -- >> god, no. >> or are you somebody who got caught up in stuff and made some mistakes? >> reporter: they confronted her with elisa's written confession. >> basically it says, we planned to overdose larry mcnabney with horse tranquilizer. >> no. i'm not denying. i mean, that conversation could have happened but i never thought that she would have carried it out and taken me along with her, unknowingly. she's evil and she's trying to do this to pull me down with her. because she's been jealous of me. i know she has. >> explain that to me, then. why is she doing this? make me believe it, sarah. >> because she's an evil person.

anyone who could kill their husband's evil. >> reporter: sarah dutra broke down and told detectives her side of the story. and, in this version, it was elisa, not sarah, who was the cold-blooded killer. it was elisa who dosed larry with horse tranquilizer. elisa ordered sarah to bury him in yosemite, even before he was dead. >> she said, get out and grab the shovel and check the ground. and i said, god, no. i was -- i want you to know that i was so afraid to not do what she wanted me to. >> reporter: elisa, who was eerily calm when larry finally did expire. >> and he was laying there on the ground and i said, what is he laying on the ground for? you know, why is he not laying in bed? she said, he's dead. and i thought, what? oh, my god. he's dead? what do you mean he's dead?

>> reporter: that was the morning of september 12th, after the long and harrowing drive home from the horse show in los angeles, said sarah. and, through her tears, she told the detectives how larry's body ended up in the refrigerator. >> and so she put him in a sheet. oh, my god. i -- i've never seen anything like this, okay? and she said, okay, grab the sheet. and then we carried him downstairs and i'm, like, what are you doing? we have to call the police. this is not right. she said, we are not calling the police. if you call the police, you'll be so sorry you did. >> reporter: this was the heart of sarah's version. she went along with the whole awful, crazy thing for one reason, she said. she was deathly afraid of elisa. >> god, i didn't want to end up like him. >> reporter: was it possible, an innocent young woman in the thrall of a con artist and

killer? sarah dutra seemed so frightened, so emotional. and, yet, thought the detective -- >> i felt a little bit over the top. >> she was a little over the top. >> yeah. [ inaudible ] >> you mean she was acting, putting on? >> i believe so. >> after more than nine hours of questioning, sarah dutra was arrested and charged with larry's murder. it was a classic crime story. two killers, mutual finger pointing, and prosecutors knew they could use each woman's testimony against the other, an easy checkmate. that is, until elisa took herself off the board. on march 30th, 13 days after her arrest, a jailer found her hanging by the neck in her cell. a suicide. >> a million questions for elisa, and now that door has been slammed shut.

>> reporter: and now sarah, left holding the bag, would face murder charges alone. coming up -- the prosecutor had to prove that sarah was equally responsible for larry mcnabney's death, but, with elisa gone, whose story would the jury believe? >> when you try only one defendant, it's very easy, as it was for sarah dutra, to point the finger at the one who's not there.

♪ >> reporter: it was the winter of 2003, more than a year since larry mcnabney was poisoned with horse tranquilizer.

his admitted killer, elisa mcnabney, his wife, chose her own destiny. and her alleged accomplice, sarah dutra, alone, faced the possibility of spending the rest of her life behind bars. you attended the trial every day. >> yes. 11 1/2 weeks. >> why? why? >> our d.a. had talked to us about the importance of our family being represented, that my dad not being forgotten. >> reporter: tavia believed her father died at the hands of both elisa and sarah, but, while sarah admitted to being there when larry died and in the days and months that followed, she adamantly claimed she never went to police because she was so afraid of elisa and of ending up just like larry. a theory that even prosecutor thomas testa found, well, believable. >> when i first got this case, people in my office will tell you that's exactly what i was saying walking up and down the hall. >> poor sarah!

>> poor sarah. she's just an aider and abetter. but as i got deeper in the case, i totally turned around. but i started with that mind-set. >> testa reviewed the evidence and became convinced that sarah dutra was, in fact, the woman in charge. >> sarah did not like larry. she always accused him of being full of himself, talking about himself all the time, self-centered. she didn't like him. so larry didn't want sarah around. sarah did not like larry. >> you know, this sounds to me like two people who both love elisa and wanted other out of the way. >> that's it. that's exactly it. it was a love triangle, and one of them had to go. >> reporter: sarah, said prosecutor testa, was enjoying a very fancy life with elisa, and larry was simply in the way. if your theory is right, these are two kind of good-time girls who have this great relationship and living off the proceeds of larry, why get rid of him? they had no motive.

>> larry was elisa's golden goose, but elisa was sarah's golden goose, and sarah was about to be cut out of this whole triangle. larry had just told her two days before he was killed, you know, that he wanted her gone, he wanted her fired. >> reporter: so, said testa, it was sarah who had the motive to kill larry. sarah's lawyer, of course, saw it differently. >> it seems like the classic instance of, you know, evil sort of wrapping around a sweet young little baby. >> reporter: at the trial, defense attorney kevin climo portrayed elisa as a black widow, sophisticated con artist who wanted her husband dead and sarah was her innocent and terrified pawn. >> it was the most horrible thing i've never -- not because i wanted to. not because i wanted to. i want you to know that.

>> reporter: really? now prosecutor testa introduced ginger miller. remember her, the other secretary who worked alongside sarah and elisa? she said, in the days and weeks after larry vanished, elisa and sarah seemed to feel anything but remorse. >> they're laughing together. they're shopping together. they're eating together. they're sleeping in the same bed together. she's living at her house. >> so they were not really working, were they? >> they were. they would get maybe two hours of work done a day. >> what did they do the rest of the time, just party? >> shop, hang out, sleep late, go flirt with boys. >> reporter: all the while spending the firm's money, larry's money. a lot of money. >> elisa got a red jaguar, sarah got a red bmw. >> reporter: such close friends. or maybe more than friends. >> they bought matching underwear together. >> come on. >> my first week, they were,

like, look what we bought, they were wearing matching underwear. they were best friends. >> reporter: they were blowing through money so it fast they fell behind on rent payments for the law office. got evicted. so they moved the office into elisa and larry's home, which, according to ginger, now seemed more like elisa and sarah's home. >> up in the rooms they had no clothes of larry's. the closet was cleaned out. in the bathroom, hers and sarah's sinks, instead of his and hers. >> like they knew he wasn't coming back. >> yeah. they were pretty much living in the house. >> reporter: well, not quite. because all this time, remember, larry's body was still in the garage, still in the refrigerator. and, as for the idea that sarah was an innocent child, elisa's puppet, that was nonsense, said ginger. >> everybody knows that she wasn't terrified of her. sarah had as much say as elisa had in the whole situation. >> reporter: but at her trial,

sarah, the daughter of those devout christians, sat quietly at the defense table, a wide-eyed innocent. elisa wasn't around to be cross-examined so her videotaped confession didn't get played for the jury. and, with no dna, no prints, no trace evidence, no living eyewitnesss, the case against sarah was entirely circumantial. >> the first-degree murder. >> first-degree murder, yeah. >> but would the jury see it the way he did? after four days of deliberations, the jury found sarah dutra guilty of voluntary manslaughter and accessory to murder, not first-degree murder. >> had she not been a young, attractive, tall blonde whose parents were clutching bibles, crying in the first row, one wonders if the verdict would have been the same. >> reporter: sarah dutra was sentenced to 11 years, served 8, and, in the summer of 2011, at

age 31, she was released. >> it's painful to know that such little time was given for such a horrific crime and one that seemed so premeditated to me and so thought out and so callous to the end. >> reporter: sarah dutira has not responded to our interview question. and tavia says she's forgiven sarah. as much for her own sake as anything. >> will i ever forget what she's done? never. but i don't want to have my whole life be their cruelty and the things they chose to do to him. i'd rather remember the loving times we had together. and they're not going to take that away from me. ♪