we're back now with more of "today" on a wednesday morning. it's the 17th day of october, 2012. got a nice crowd of people out on the plaza. some of these folks might want to head over to the rock center rink open for the season. perfect on this day for a spin out there. others may want to come up here to the kitchen above studio 1 ak-and check out an even better spectator sport. savannah learning to cook. and i want to share sometimes things happen when you're not here. willie walked into the studio a few seconds ago and said are you really that bad, or is this all just for show? >> he was like i now understand it isn't for show. >> all these years i thought you

were being self-deprecating. you are a disgrace in the kitchen. i say that with love and affection >> i wouldn't put it on. >> but she's truly interested. >> i asked for another onion to try again. >> your poor mom. >> i know. it's humiliating. anyway. >> you'll finish the tomato sauce, and tomorrow, again, because we ran out of time, tomorrow is what? >> making a couple of chicken dishes. >> and friday i'm flying solo and making dinner. you want to come over for dinner? >> no, i'm good. >> smart move. >> very smart. >> can't change his plans. >> coming up, "today's professionals" are in the house. a lot of things to talk about. were you or should people pay a surcharge to make a reservation in a restaurant during the prime time, friday to saturday nights, 7:00 to 9:00? >> no way. >> bad business model. >> i don't like the idea of it. if you want a reservation in my restaurant i don't want to up charge you. >> bobby flay like nobody's

business. >> add an extra bottle of wine. >> exactly. >> he's going to get you one way or the another. >> also ahead, the latest on hot hollywood kooums couples, to new movies and the rolling stones in concerts. we'll get you caught up on all your pop culture news. already caught up on honey boo boo. >> i saw that. two weeks from today, halloween, going door to door or throwing a big monster bash, jill martin is here including treats and toys for the kid, cocktails for the grownus. bill it or not, jill is not in costume. just showed up for work wearing that today. >> oh, my gosh. >> all right. first let's go downstairs to get a check of the other stories making headlines. natalie standing by at the news desk. natalie. >> good morning to you guys, once again. good morning, everyone. seven-time tour de france winner lance armstrong says he's stepping down from his live strong charity. he said he's making the move so they can focus on their mission

instead of the doping allegations surrounding the former champion. he's denied the allegation and nike announced they are severing time with armstrong, quote, with great sadness. nike cited great evidence that armstrong participated in doping and misled the company for more than a decade. this comes a week after the anti-u.s. doping agency released a massive allegations detailing the massive charges against armstrong. police believe a bar was set on fire to cover up the murders of five people. the bodies of four women and one man were found by fire fighters inside a bar at a strip mall. a dirg theft of world class art has police following up in london. next's keir simmons has more. >> reporter: the 15 tips from the public came after an alert went out around the art world, but people are asking how some of the world's most valuable pictures could be stolen with

such apparent ease. part of the art world's heritage, among them pieces by picasso, monet, gaugin, freud, works that could be worth around $100 million and irreplaceable. stolen from this museum in rotterdam where only matisse's reading girl in white and yellow had been displayed. there is now an empty space. europe's art experts are stunned. >> it's a very significant loss, both to the public and to the trust which owns the pictures. it's very sad. we hope to get them back. it may take us many years >> reporter: pictures lifted from the walls like a clock from the movie "the thomas crown affair." by the time the alarm sounded and police arrived, the thieves had left. >> very modern security system in this museum, and the alarm response was very quick, so thieves were not able to steal many paintings. >> reporter: europe has seen a series of art heists. two years ago a pallies gallery was raided. pictures by matisse and picasso

are still missing from that theft. in 2004, "the scream" by edwa mk was taken and even "the mona lisa" was stolen from the louvre. >> it's very impressive when you can open up your den and see a great piece of artwork, whether it's a matisse or a picasso. >> reporter: the artworks taken this week like the pablo picasso piece is so well known they cannot be sold on the open market, but some expert fear they may end up as collateral for a bad debt in the underworld. now perhaps there was inside information because there were no guards on duty overnight when the raid happened at the museum. instead, they relied on cameras and alarms which seems incredible, natalie, because getting the pictures back will be a tough job. around 20% of artwork stolen like this are never recovered. >> amazing.

keir simmons, thanks so much. americans are making progress in their fight against cholesterol. the cdc says overall cholesterol levels among adults have improved over the last two decades. they say much of the credit goes to cholesterol-lowering statin drugs. and former reality show star kate gosselin has lost her job as a blogger for coupon cabinch the company's ceo blamed what he called a series of recent events which he said made it clear that kate is simply not a good fit. he did wish her all the best. meanwhile, kate tweeted tuesday that she's super busy and that she has no worries. it's six minutes after the hour. let's go back to al with a check of your weather. >> kate gosselin in a series of recent events. i like it. hey, you're looking at literally a ton of cran grace. this watery bog is here in man hattan. eighth year in a row the nice folks from ocean spray have brought the exhibit to the city.

how many years have you been doing this? >> too many. >> fantastic. i think it's great that they have gotten in the cranberry bogs. you look great doing that. interesting fact about cranberry, 400 million pounds of cranberries each year, 11 billion each holiday season, and they are rich in anti-oxidants. let's check your weather and see what's happening. we've got a big system making its way through the upper midwest, upper level low combining with a surface low and it's a pretty vigorous system bringing rain. back behind the system colder air and windy conditions. winds gusting over 60 miles per hour in the high wind warning areas, and then ahead of the system a risk of strong storms from central illinois and all the way down to jackson, mississippi, shreveport, louisiana. could see a tornado or two. heavier rain from milwaukee down to st. louis and paducah.

>> and that's your latest weather. willie? >> all right, al. thank you. it's time for "today's professionals" where we tackle the hottest headlines making news. our panel of pros, star jones, esquire, donny deutsch and dr. nancy snyderman. >> magic moment, your first professionals. >> my maiden voyage. i'll be candy crowley and try to keep you guys online. let's start with the debate last night. people are calling it this morning a little bit contentious and feisty, perhaps too much so for some people. let's watch a little clip of some of the back and forth last night. >> you'll get your chance in a

moment. i'm still speaking. >> and the suggestion that anybody on my team, whether the secretary of state, our u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we've lost four of our own, governor, is offensive. >> that wasn't even the worst of it, star. what's your opinion about what you saw last night? is debate etiquette dead? physically they were very close it each other. going almost nose to nose >> i don't like all that alpha male moving around. i get intimidated with too many people in my personal space. that's not my style. i didn't like when governor romney really in my opinion was rude to the president, even if you are debating the president of the united states, you must respect the office of the presidency, and i did not see him, at least adhering to that, and then, you know, as a woman i know we're going to determine this election. kind of bothers me when you demonize single mothers and sort of place victims of crime at

their feet. that bothered me as a woman. >> what about the style, the confrontational style? how did that hit you? >> i think this is a microcosm for i don't want to call the confusion of how males are supposed to act today in society. all kidding aside, on the one hand we want the alpha males and want that we're a society of gladiators and respect that and yet, on the other hand, he talked over the moderator or rude to the president, and i think we're spending so much time on that stylish u of mano-a-mano and where that goes on the continuum i think it's a metaphor for how do men act in society overall >> i think dony is right. if i'm an independent female voter who hasn't yet decided i saw a lot of male posturing last night and i did not hear enough specifics. >> yet you want to see that strength at the same time. >> i want to see strength, presidential strength. i don't want to see boys bickering, and i don't like it when people start doing this. >> i'm with you, and i thought they were demeaning to candy,

and -- and there were times i thought president obama forgot -- has forgotten that he has doubters. >> was he demeaning to jim lehrer? >> interrupting. >> was he more demeaning to candy than jim lehrerier? >> i thought romney came in as a ceo, he ran the board meeting and then he dismissed the board. he ran it like a ceo. >> is that a good or a bad thing? >> he acted like a ceo but not a president. >> fine for a corporation but doesn't work for the country. >> maybe it does. >> last night i think as a woman i bristled, i bristled. >> did the exact same thing. >> san raphael, california, the city council voting mannously on monday a bill that bans smoking in multi-family homes, duplexes and condominiums so in the privacy of your own home, star, can you not smoke. does it go too far? >> i don't think it goes too far. secondhand smoke continues to be an issue. nancy would speak to that much more articulately than i can.

i have to tell you if you live in a multi-family dwellings those exhaust pipes, whatever the vents are, you definitely get the smoke into your own house. >> this is my old home -- my old stomping ground, san raphael. >> you have a lot of stomping grounds. >> make no mistake about it. what happens in california will come to the rest of the country. so the idea that your children living on the third floor should not be exposed to cigarette smoke on the first floor, this is coming to a town near you. >> along those lines, in the year 2012 and we still in the civilized world produce a product we know kills ourselves. >> right. >> ban cigarettes period. >> star, what about personal rights? one guy at the city council meeting said this is tyranny. i'm in the privacy of my own home. if i can't smoke here, where can you smoke? >> the answer is nowhere. that's really the answer, but legally what's going to end up happening is you're going to have to weigh individual personal rights versus the rights of the society, and i think when it comes down to health, the rights of society

are going to win. >> all right, donny. next topic, the sound you hear is american children fleeing for france. france has a ban -- the french pop the, francois hollande has proposed a new education reform package and in it there's a caveat that says there will be no more homework meaning all the work will be done inside the school is this a good idea? >> no more homework on tuesday, only on one day? >> no, no, no, it's multiple days and make the day longer. >> i actually love it. i'm a big believer that we've got an overburdened -- we've got overburdened children in our society. raising kids now, and this is a big issue with a lot of parents, the kids don't have time to be kids. so that's kind of one move, but overall i would love us to pull back on what the kids have to do at home. >> i would rather have a longer school day and sit-down family dinners. one of the reason we're in

trouble we no longer sit and break bread and look at each other's faces and talk about what happened in the day. having raised three kids in high school, cannot believe the volume of work. it's ridiculous. they don't learn more. learn it during the day. have a life at night. >> but that's not the traditional american family anymore. >> but therein lies the rub. >> a lot of people don't have a table to sit around at night and have dinner. >> i don't care if you sit on the floor. the problem is there's an erosion of family time, and these kids are too -- they are under too much pressure, and i don't think homework gets you anywhere. >> rapid fire here, guys this. law we just passed -- not a law but a proposal in new york city. asked bobby flay about it a minute ago, to charge extra for reservation in primetime, friday, saturday night, 7:00 to 8:30? >> yes, supply and demand, capitalism, bobby flay as always has no idea what he's talking about. >> star jones? >> i don't eat that early anywhere. i'm not paying an extra 25. >> i would eat at 6:30.

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second round for romney as well as president obama, and i think a lot of us noticed first lady michelle obama and ann romney dressed in pink and hot pink. >> they came out in that striking pink, almost similar colors. we think they did it because it's breast cancer awareness month, but boy oh, boy, after the heated debate both these women came out striking looking gorgeous. wear red on tv like you're wearing or wear the bright beautiful pink, and they got it. >> good for their skin tones, for sure. >> exactly. >> "x-factor" news as well. two new co-hosts when the show goes live. >> khloe kardashian and mario lopez. >> simon cowell rooting for khloe kardashian saying they bring authenticity. mario lopes, host of many shows. interesting to see what they bring to "x-factor." >> good to hear they are good friends. maybe he'll help her in that

role. it seems like k-pats is back on. >> i said these two will be back together, sources told me. spotted all across los angeles. thee bought a $2.2 million house around the corner. these two do love each other and mistakes are happening. good that they are maybe reconciling. >> fans will be happy about that. also appears that katy perry on john maher could be an item, spotted in and around new york yesterday. >> this is telling because she actually spent his 35th birthday with him and they went to a pretty hot spot. restaurant here and also spotted at dinner and lunch together so they are not keeping it quiet or a secret. looks like they are very much on. >> let's talk about possible breakups as well. it appears that oscar winner russell crowe could be splitting from his wife of nine years, danielle spencer, this reported by "the sydney herald" who broke the story. >> have two kid together, known each other since 1989.

it's reportedly because they spend so much time apart but these two have known each other for so long you hope for the kids' sake they work it out. >> all right. got to talk rolling stones. >> yes. >> 50th anniversary, and now we've learned where some of the concerts will be held. >> four concerts, two at the 02 arena and two at the prudential center. we should go. >> i think so. >> mick jagger is a total tech head and a surprise appearance. can you believe 50 years? >> counting the minutes. a lot of people waiting for this. sounds good. thanks so much. >> thanks, natalie. just ahead, who says grownups can't get in on the halloween festivities rather? spooktacular fun finds right after these messages.

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get ready. folks at home, in the area with a creative getup, come to our plaza. a lot of fun. we have a halloween costume contest. be here or be square. >> became very scared when donna approached me and said what's your size in high heels? >> revealing. >> not what i wanted to hear. >> get ready. your wife will never look at you the same way. >> you were a man last way? >> i was a man for halloween and a man again when we did "abbey road." >> i can't count the times i've been a man and a little boy. >> get their ultimate fun. >> matt's been a woman many times. >> he kind of likes it. >> i think he enjoys it. >> that's another story. >> coming up in this half hour, whether you want cool costume ideas for your little ghosts and goblins or whip up some festive cocktails for yourself for the adult themed party, jill martin with fun finds.

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this morning on a special halloween edition of "jill's fun finds" from creepy to even a little bit spooky, jill has all your fun needs. jill, good morning. jill in costume, by the way. >> what a feeling. >> donny deutsch thought you were one of his girlfriends. >> this is from stop and go, and they are offering 45% off all the costumes for october which is fitting. >> stock and go. >> all right. >> and then the decoration from pottery barn so i kind of scoured to see who had the best stuff so if you need something for the home, pottery barn is the way to go. >> good. adult parties for halloween. >> okay. >> drinks here, everything from the creepy crawler drink to the spidey kits, itsy bitsy and

dracula kits. where can we find the recipes. >> sky infusion blood orange vodka and it's on the facebook page, creepy crawler, itsy bitsy, spider kits. drinking luckily during the teases. they are actually good if you are having a ghoulish cocktail party. >> love the way they did that with the martini glass. and a great thing to that center piece for the adult party. these are cupcakes in the shape of a pumpkin. >> baked by melissa. >> love it. >> and these will be delivered to you, shipped to you or go in the store. they come in different denominations. 25 cupcakes for $100. >> halloween scene accessories. >> every year they come out with a different one. space cadets.com starting at $12 and a little star here today who is a big justin bieber fan. can you sing "baby, baby."

>> hi, look at the camera. so cute. >> modeling boo with her favorite. >> go ahead, give it a kiss to the camera. >> she's actually my college roommate's daughter so happy she's here today and looking adorab adorable. >> all these great jewelry accessories as well. >> the next few things if you want to get in on halloween and don't want to dress up, great skull bracelets that you can wear all year round, $65 to $80. layer them, a fun thing and fun gift as well. >> the skill clutch. >> going out at night and want a little touch of halloween, $34. i think these look great. really look designer to me so a great clutch to have. >> for the guys if they want a little taste of hag wean but not going overboard. >> sockittome.com. zombie soks, ninjas. a fun way and even if you're giving out party favors, having a halloween party.

>> what are these party panties? >> got these just for you actually. give me your candy. i thought you would love that. >> oh, my. >> $10 to $19. >> jill martin. >> as you can see there's all different variations. got to throw it in there. >> great little things that you can do from i guess hair dye to nail polish. >> i have a little tattoo on, i don't know if you can tell. beauty stores at 6:00 to 8:00 and all different things. can you see it a little bit. >> yeah. >> there's tattoos and nail polish, way to spray your hair, eyelashes and easy ways. okay. that's enough. easy ways to get in on halloween. >> the fake tattoos. what's this all about? >> $10 and just put it on your arm and jerry is modeling it right now. see, he looks like a bad boy. >> very manly of you. >> one thing that he just slipped on. >> i don't know if bad boys eat m & ms. >> and right over here

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with no added sugar. this morning on "today's money," bringing your business to the next level. there are more than 27 million small businesses operating around the country right now, so with all that competition how do you grow yours? msnbc's j.j. ramberg is the author of "it's your business." good morning. >> good morning. good to be here. >> we're talking about businesses with less than 500 employees. make up about 50% of the private sector workforce here in the united states, but it feels like a tough economic climate right now. why is it a good time to start a small business? >> well, i really focus on

businesses that are -- that you think of as small businesses, so the corner ice cream shop, or the laundromat. if you have a good idea, or internet startup. if you have a great idea, it's a great time to start a small business, and it's cheaper than ever now because of technology to go out there and test your idea. >> you've got 183 tips in your new book, and we're going to go through them all right now. >> one by one. >> you've selected three of them, three of for you favorites. arm people with specific ways to help you. >> this is great for anyone, not just those in business. make it easy for them. when you say that's a great idea, j.j. you'll go back to your desk and get busy and i should write to you and say, hey, willie, offer me an introduction to this person or come over and look at my financials, whatever it is and make it easy to help me if you're enthusiastic about it. >> tap the business school work workforce. this is interesting. how do you do it? >> when i was by the school, i did. wrote a marketing company for one company and did a business

plan. business schools and professionals want real life experience so just call a business school and say i have a project. do you have a student who can do it. >> good idea. iphones have certainly changed the way we do business but also a way to pitch yourself to somebody? >> when i started my own good, goodsearch.com. it was before smartphones. i would print out what my website would look like and show it to people and would always have it on me. with phones keep a beautiful picture of your product. if you have a service keep your brochure on the phone, something, so when you meet somebody you can show them what it looks like. >> our viewers are anxious to pick your brain here. we're going to go to video now. this one is from jason, and he's got a question for you. >> like most entrepreneurs i am fueling my business startup on savings. my question is is it a good idea to go to the bank and request additional funds before those savings run out? >> what do you think? >> yes. the last time you want to be

looking for money is when you have no more money, so absolutely start developing relationships with people now, if you think you need money later. very hard to get a loan right now's so think other places like microfinance organizations or credit unions as well. >> let's talk about facebook, a question from kathy on "today's" facebook. how can a small unfunded company get noticed without the money for a large marketing/advertising campaign? what's the trick here because it's so hard to get the word snout. >> when i first started my company, all from word of mouth. from social media. give people something to talk about. make yourself interesting. be an expert on something, and people will pass this through twitter, through facebook and e-mail and blogs. >> another e-mail from susan. she asks i want to get feedback on my business from real people. how do i go about putting together a focus group? >> get a bunch of real people. already in business, get a bunch of your customers and say, hey, will you come over for pizza and

coffee and sit around with them and ask them questions, or if you're thinking about a business, talk it people would would be your potential customers. put them in a room, same thing. one piece of advice from the book. ask open-ended questions so that you can get real feedback. >> one more quick one we want to get in here from andrew. another video question. andrew, take it away. >> when you enter a room at an event, how do you present yourself? had a brand do you present? how do you present your company? >> again, we have a tip in the book about this, too, and it's basically when you go out there and you're networking, the thing you want to be is likable. so don't worry about presenting your brand or presenting your company. think about getting people to want to engage in a conversation with you and also have a good elevator pitch to explain who are you, what your company is in case you goat that point where you can explain it. >> have to get to the 180 other tips the next time. >> for anyone wanting to start a business. >> j.j., the book, "it's your

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this morning in "today's kitchen," comfort foods on the lighter side. "cooking light" contributor has a new approach to comfort foods that won't compromise foods and a new way to cook light. good morning. >> good morning. >> i'm so excited. comfort food light. not two things you usually hear together. >> no, and we've done it and the secret is butternut squash. i've been cooking butternut squash with skim milk and low sodium chicken sauce. >> this is for mac & cheese. >> this is for mac & cheese. >> cooking it in the milk for 25 minutes. >> and it gets really nice and tender. i'll blend this up and before i blend it up i'll also add some

greek yogurt, fat-free greek yogurt plain, it will boost the protein and the calcium. >> a nice creaminess. >> we're not using a beschemel to keep it light. we'll also add in a teaspoon of kosher salt >> i imagine you used fresh butternut squash. >> you do want the chunks and want the cubes and real want it to absorb all of that yumminess inside there. it's hot so i'm going to put on the lid but take the center out to let the steam release and there we go. you keep getting that nice beautiful golden color. >> okay. >> transfer this. and natalie, can i ask you to add in the cheeses. >> sure. >> even though we're keeping this light, we are making it cheesy because you have to. it is mac & cheese.

>> parmesan and pecorino romano and gruyere. we would have added a little bit more mixture from the pan and the reason why we're using this instead of elbows because look at the shape. you've got a curly q, ridges. and it's going to hang on to the sauce. i'll put that into an already coated pan. >> do we add the skim milk at all? >> we would add that in there. >> okay. >> so all of this goes in as well. >> you can mix it in the bowl or the casserole dish like we're going to do. save a step. >> i love that we're matching. >> give this a really good stir. probably better a whisk or something. >> exactly. and when it's hot it's going to melt in really easily. ours got a little bit top. >> and panko breadcrumbs.

we've toasted them and put parmesan in there so when you top it it will give a nice crunch on top to your mac & cheese. >> great way to sneak the veggies past my kids too. >> absolutely. >> and bake it for how long? >> 25 minutes. >> looks amazing. >> a little fresh parsley on top. >> and on the side you've got the spinach with pine nuts and make it seasonal. pumpkin cranberry muffins. they are in season, cranberries. you can also use dried. want to try some. >> serve it up. thanks so much. >> up next, kathie lee and hoda coming up after your local news and weather. [ harry umlaut ] that's one creamy muller. [ sally umlaut ] it's greek-style yogurt.

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