you still lie today. >> you are so crazy you don't use your real name it's not alley. it is a nickname >> your nickname is what you write? you cannot go as your real name >> are you an absentee father. >> kirk: let's talk about -- [all talking at once] >> there is a warrant for your arrest >> and i haven't paid support you are... [inaudible] i hate you. don't to her don't talk to me >> what kind of twisted mother calls her own father -- >> kirk: backup. backup >> all right. carry on then. >> you're sick. sick, buddy. >> ally >> hi. >> kirk: nice to see you. did you keep casey away from morgan for three years? >> in 2006, yeah i was bitter because he went to the courts and he lied. he said i abandoned my child.

that he had her since birth and i was nowhere to be found >> kirk: what about the kidnap allegations? >> if i was a kidnaper would i not be charged? >> kirk: you have to get caught >> 24 hours notice to return her. you got lucky. >> what judge gives a kidnaper 24 hours? a kidnaper gets a time-frame to bring back their child? >> i dropped the daughter off on your doorstep >> as god as my witness you had 24 hours. >> you can kidnap somebody as long as you bring them back in a certain time-frame? >> whatever. you are on reverse. because you are lying. >> kirk: did you ever coach morgan to leave bad messages or tell morgan bad things about casey? >> after that perhaps i did. >> perhaps? perhaps? three years.

three years. no contact with my daughter. >> unless you know the facts then wait for your booings. ok? >> she made my daughter call me and say you are not my dad >> kirk: tell us the facts >> in 1998 we had a separation agreement. for eight years casey had excuses why he was not going to come and see morgan he was ply flying to philadelphia or his girlfriend was going to have a baby. there's excuses why he was not coming. so, yeah, when she is eight years old if you cannot be consistent in her life i'm tired of explaining to my daughter why dad is not showing up. until you can be consistent don't bother because you say you would show and up and not call for days and weeks later. he was not existent. absentee >> i was in the early years >> kirk: not as much as you think you should have been >> times like things got in the

way >> kirk: did you make promises and then you did not show up is there any validity >> there were a couple times yes, but alynn had other children going with fathers at the same time so it was more convenient to have all the children gone and when i switched jobs, my weekend was alternate, for the one she was. >> and your basement flooded >> and that was not acceptable because three were gone and one was home >> kirk: you created a website to find her >> yes, >> kirk: tell me about that. this was the three years >> we figured she is getting at the age she will do what all kids do and google her name. we made sure we had a website with saying how much we love her and miss her. that we are still out there and still looking. if there's she wants to get in contact with us all the information was on the bottom. >> kirk: and did she contact you? >> she did. through your sister.

your sister is the only smart one because she realized what you were doing was wrong >> she did not trust you and she knows why >> trust has nothing to do with it. we are still parents to a daughter. that doesn't change. [applause] >> i agree. but what you did was wrong >> what you did was wrong. you took three years away from me. >> you were absentee for the first eight years. so you know what? i was granted by the judge to move, casey. >> you were also granted by the judge for me to have phone access, visit that march and visits at christmas >> compulsive dead-beat liar why would i? >> kirk: did it do anything to your daughter? or is this all to you? >> you know what? i don't know. i'm not in their house when she is with them. >> casey's current wife is going

to join us next. we'll be right back. [applause] [♪] next on "the test"... a family torn apart by deception. >> you are one crazy... >> i can't get that time back. you took that from me you selfish... >> and later >> i want my mom and dad to get along. >> will the test results give them the answers they need to move forward? have you ever physically abused ali?

are you worried your daughter is having sex for money? if you want to confront your daughter and get to the truth with a lie detector, call... [applause] >> kirk: welcome back to "the test." i'm here with casey and ali. casey you say ali kept your daughter from you. >> i'm say to go happened. >> kirk: we are also saying there was eight years before that where she says you were

nonexistent >> i will agree to that. that is fair. [applause] >> kirk: casey's wife christa is here, too and says ali is a compulsive liar whoould bar casey from seeing his daughter until he paid his child support. please welcome christa >> you are one... crazy... i'm so glad to timely meet you, ellen >> you lost weight. >> what mother takes their kids away from their dad? morgan has never said i do not want to be wit you >> i'm scared to -- >> three years he did not see his baby girl because -- >> that was his fault. it was his fault. where were you for the eight years? where were you? go on his side >> i laid in bed with your daughter because she balled

becauseou are crazy. >> really? really? >> one lie. you told the world morgan doesn't want to see her daddy. that was... and you know it >> she did not want to at the time >> that one lie cost me $80,000 that i'm still paying >> excuse me. your legal fees to me this past -- >> for three years we did not see morgan >> kirk: this is not about legal fees and all that. >> you blocked hot mails you changed your phone number. you moved across the country. i'm her step mom she calls me mom she loves me. and casey knows she loves her daddy and she loves me >> that is great. sit down, girl. sit down, girl >> $80,000. you have not heard this yet we went to court and he won custody >> no, he didn't >> yes, he did. yes he did. yes he did.

>> no, he didn't. show me the court papers. show me the papers [all talking at once] >> you did not hear those messages >> really? >> and the password. >> really. have you not heard of voice mails? >> kirk: we have you brought a voice mail that ali left that claims that you kidnapped your daughter >> hanging up. you are a bunch of con artists are you liars, manipulators you are poisoning my daughter's mind and i will prove it in trial. i have documentation... let me talk to my daughter. how dare you kidnap her? you are going to pay for this christa we found out legally you [inaudible] april 7th. you are going to pay for it. and i hope you and your children

[inaudible] >> my kids hear that your daughter -- >> heard all that the voice mail >> no, our machine plays out loud idiot. it plays out loud our kids hear it. >> we took her to a family reunion. >> christa did you build a website so that morgan >> i did. we lost all contact we could not contact by e-mail, phone, facebook, nothing. casey attempted he has a cold call schools in the city pretending did my daughter make it safely and found out what school she went to. because one happened to say yes she is here today. that is how we find out what school she went to. we sent teddy bears and flowers, ding bat finds out and forbade the school from accepting anything from us. when morgan called our house and said you are not my dad, that

was the last straw. from that point on it was three years. we didn't know if she was dead or alive or wanted to see us or not. we had to prove to the courts yes she does. it cost us $80,000. but the biggest thing we didn't know she was ok. we had to sitting around the house one day, i thought what kid doesn't google their name? i made a website that was www her ne. i paid for it and designed and it anybody could go on the website all of our family and friends were writing on the website and it's your sister that found us the website >> where is my sister? where is she? >> kirk: i'm sure she is going to be here >> that website is what got us our reunion. >> morgan did find the website >> she did. and we have a francine, alynn's sister called us and said we saw the website. i had no idea my sister wasn't

letting you or casey see her for the last three years. i've showed morgan the websites. she is crying. she is upset she wants to see you. will you come to my house and visit her? >> her sister opened up her home to our entire family. my parents, all the rest of our kids. and to the point where we spent the night so we could spend that time with morgan because what you did was wrong >> i want to hear francine's version >> it was her house >> she said she made a mistake, also >> that was the best mistake she made >> and she was thinking of morgan. she did not let you take my daughter, did she? why? because she did not trust you >> we did not try to take her. i didn't try. i was happy to see her. it was three years >> we fight for custody for all those years all that money we spent was to be able to see her. she was the first one to hold her baby brother the day he was

born. three years she did not see her brothers or sisters. i had to tuck my kids in crying because they missed their big sister >> that is not true >> how would you know what happens in my house? >> kirk: can i ask why do you dislike her so much? it seems like -- >> it seems like they just wanted to see their daughter >> i don't think so. [applause] [cheering] >> the reunion. three years morgan had not seen her daddy your sister called and -- morgan called and i think we have the message. daddy i see the website, i can't wait to see you. we drove overnight to go see her. she came crying out the front door >> kirk: did you know she found the website? >> no >> a she was... >> we are talking three years. >> three years. three years.

>> excuse me that first eight years >> you took that away from me. you took my daughter away from me for three years >> the reasons, casey. [all talking at once] >> what you did in 2006 you went to court and said you had my daughter since birth >> kirk: what were your valid reasons? >> from making a child call her father and say you are not my dad >> kirk: for the three years you said you had valid reasons >> because what he had de in 2006 >> my 24-hour kidnapping window >> go ahead, i'm done. i'm done. >> kirk: all right. next who is responsible for bringing morgan and her father back together and possibly tearing this family fur area part? we'll meet her when we come back. [applause] [cheering] [♪] next on "the test"... a daughter's dramatic voice mail

>> hi dad it's morgan thanks for the flowers and the teddy bears. i looked at the website and yeah, i got upset because -- >> kirk: can she save this fractured family >> kirk: can she save this fractur[ female announcer ] having grands biscuits in the morning is easy. pop them in, go about your business, and in just 15 minutes, your family can enjoy warm fresh from the oven biscuits. pillsbury grands biscuits. let the making begin. [ hans ] toaster strudel! [ angelic music plays ] don't overthink it. [ hans ] warm, flakey, gooey. toaster strudel!

coming this thursday, michael lohan and his lady >> i don't know that she cheated >> you a trying to fetch for things because of your own guilt. >> and mom and hubby. >> patricia has a secret to

reveal. they are back with new problems on an all new test. she wants to find out if you've cheated >> michael's girlfriend wants the low-down on lohan. >> this girl contacted me and i was five months pregnant. >> did you know this woman? >> he said he didn't then she sent me a picture of the two of them >> is tan mom getting burned by her husband? >> listen this. this is disgusting. >> that is thursday. >> the following program contain [applause] >> kirk: welcome back to the "the test". casey and his ex ali and current wife are trying to make sense out of the custody conundrum. francine admits she went behind her sister's back to help

reunite morgan with her dad. welcome francine to the show. [applause] [cheering] >> you've got nerve casey. for what? you talking about >> thank you for what you did >> 2006-2009 what about the nine years >> i admit there were times >> lousy, lousy dad >> i was always a good dad i was a lousy parent >> i don't care i'm talking to you. [applause] >> what about the phone call that alynn made that n. >> what alynn does is not my business >> i understand that. so why are you talking to me about my parenting skills? >> that little girl sent at the window waiting for you with her suitcase >> i can imagine it must be hard

>> align said you cannot have morgan unless you give me money. >> morgan -- >> kirk: can i ask something. if he was so bad why did you want to start the reunion? >> because morgan -- because morgan was 9 at the time. and what about the other years? >> he saw her i have photo albums of the 9 years that you say he was gone? i have them here. >> she has a lot of years missing >> no more so that the three years. >> do you think it was right to have morgan at march break and not return her to her mother? >> i had a court order for that because she was moving again. >> francine did you know that morgan wanted to see her dad? >> when she came to visit me, yes before that, no. >> kirk: tell us what happened >> i used to get her every summer -- >> kirk: we can all sit >> i got lots of time with morgan when she was a child and every summer i would get her for

a week or two and our children would bond. and you know, so i had morgan in 2009 i believe it was. and you know we were sitting town talking and she said i would like to see my dad. and i'm like ok. so you know, i talked with -- >> kirk: did you have her call him? >> yes, i did. did i feel good about it? no. because i love my sister, right? and i did it behind her back. >> kirk: all right. morgan left you a voice mail after she saw the website. you put up searching for her >> let's hear that. >> hi dad it's morgan. thanks for the flowers and the teddy bear. i looked at the website and yeah, i got upset because i missed you, too. >> kirk: one moment. she is crying -- >> she thanked you for that?

>> we sent them to francine's house. i sent them to her front door >> you tried to send them to your school >> you knew where i was. >> for three years you said you tried to contact her for three years. you could not have tried that hard. you knew where i lived. and are you not allowed to give us anything. any number. [all talking at once] >> i tried to get ahold of my daughter. >> you did not >> i tried to get ahold of my daughter's aunt to get ahold of my daughter. the mom would be responsible enough >> to tell us she was ok. oh, my god. really? >> i didn't know where she was >> you think if something was wrong with morgan somebody would have called you? >> whatever. >> you knew where she was >> kirk: did you know where she was? >> i knew the province she was

in. >> nine years before that? >> kirk: can i say one thing. listen, the rest of herife is what we're dealing with right now. all right. [applause] listen, those three years, i heard a message where she called and missed daddy. we can deal with that. right now there's so much fighting going on i've been sitting here and watch everyone fight about everything but morgan. it's unbelievable. [applause] all right next was casey an abusive dead-beat dad during morgan's early years? did ali intentionally keep morgan away from her father casey? we'll find that out and more when we come back. [applause] next on "the test"... find out if casey is really the

dead-beat dad that ex-wife ali thinks that he is. >> kirk: do you owe ali over $20,000 in back child support? gold bond men's lotion makes me look so good it should come with a warning label. [ male announcer ] gold bond men's lotion. skin strengthening proteins plus 7 moisturizers. man up.

do you believe a family member stole something valuable from you? do you have several suspects and you need to get to the truth? call... [applause] >> kirk: welcome back. it is a custody battle extraordinaire today. we have a lot going on here. there is a lot of fighting. i'm going to go to your lie detector first. all right. it's time for the results of casey's lie detector test.

our lie detector administrator asked casey the following questions: have you ever physically abused ali? your answer? >> no. >> kirk: you passed that. [applause] [cheering] >> he did hit me. he did hit me and pushed me down the stairs. he admitted to pushing me down the stairs >> he admitted to pushing you when you came at him with scizzors >> i did not. that is another lie. but whatever. >> kirk: but you say that is a lie but he passed that. have you ever physically abused ali you said no and he passed. we are done with that one. >> that is hateful for you to throw that out there.

>> that puts people in jail >> did you say you were done? next >> kirk: we have a second question and i may speak of them both as a group. do you owe ali over $20,000 in back child support? >> no. >> kirk: he passed that as well. [applause] [cheering] >> thank you. >> you owe us. maybe the numbers are wrong. 0 is the number. 0. >> ally, how do you explain that he is passing both of these? >> perhaps physical does it have to be long-term to be physical? how do you explain that? you told those things to morgan. >> he did. he punched me and pushed me off the bed. >> kirk could you read it again >> yeah, he did and he pushed me down a flight of stairs

>> that assault. >> then he passed. all right. >> maybe when your daughter comes out here you can say sorry morgan, you lied to you your daddy never hurt me >> yes, he did >> maybe when he left you. because he was the best thing that could ever happen to you. >> kirk: ali. at some point, we have to put everything behind us. at some point. you can't keep picking at it like a scab or it will never heal. ever. all right? he passed these. ok. that's it. you said he owed $20,000 and he doesn't. >> it's because of this that you knew never happened. you wasted 16 years. >> you need help align. you need help >> you need to stay away from me is what you need to do. thank you >> you have hurt your daughter bad >> no. >> kirk: did ali prevent contact between casey and their daughter morgan find out the results of

her lie detector test after the break. [applause] >> next on "the test"... casey passed his lie detector test. now it's ali's turn. >> from 2006-2009 did you prevent contact between casey and morgan?

do you like action? do you want to witness shocking results? if you are in the la area and would like to be in the studio audience for a taping of "the test" go to thetesttv.com. >> kirk: welcome back to the "the test". before the break casey we found out that >> i was not a wife abuser? >> kirk: we found out you did not abuse her and you do not owe $20,000 in back child support. all right >> it's true. [applause] >> kirk: now, it's time to reveal the results of ali's lie detector test. [cheering] [applause] our lie detector administrator asked ali the following questions: from 2006-2009 did

you prevent contact between casey and morgan? you' been telling morgan that you did not prevent contact between her and casey. but you lied. >> three years. three years. >> kirk: you confessed a few things to our polygraph administrator and today is about coming clean with everything for the sake of morgan and starting fresh today. so tell him what you confessed to the polygraph administrator >> why i did from 2006-2009 because of his actions. in 2006, i was bitter and angry at you. that's why i did. and you were -- >> you are still angry 16 years later >> she is 16 for those three years because you went in front

of the judge and said i was not a parent in her life. you lied. >> are you kidding me? >> and for the three years, yes i did stop you because i was bitter what you have done in the nine years >> the three years telng morgan i used to beat you? >> you did hurt me >> how are you going to get the three years bac >> there's beating me and there's hitting me >> you selfish... >> kirk: listen. i tell you what she missed a lot of things but she is not missing this right now. ok. she is seeing this. i'm going to read off what you confessed to the polygraph administrator in case there's doubts. you sent morgan's cards back to casey as return to sender. you blocked casey from morgan's facebook account. and you told morgan's school not to accept anything from casey to give to morgan and that casey was not allowed to pick morgan

up. >> she didn't know that we still loved her >> all that over spite >> because of you had done. >> we took her to a family reunion and you knew >> i did not know she was there. >> kirk: hang offer, everyone. -- hang on. everyone. all i see here is a father who wanted to see his daughter for three years. let me tell you something first nine years he wasn't there enough. and then there was three years he wanted to be there and makeup for those nine years, and she wouldn't let him. this brings us to where we are at right now. whateverou did during those three years, let it go. let that go. let it go >> can't do it. >> kirk: if she can let go of the first nine years maybe we can find a way to meet in the middle for the sake of your daughter. next, the young woman at the

center of this firestorm morgan. after 16 years of confusion, lice and questions she is demanding answers. stay with us. [applause] [cheering] next on "the test"... can this family survive all the years of lies and deception? >> i don't like hearing that you think he is a bad guy because in my eyes he's not. lh

be in the know this november on "the test" >> you know you cheat on me >> when is the next woman coming in? >> anything i need to know about? >> she knows that already >> i want to know about the life insurance >> i don't know she is out of control >> you know what? i know who my baby daddy is. >> we all want to know the truth >> i know the test results will be in my favor >> you know you are the father of my daughter >> i didn't know nothing about a damn pregnancy. >> do y know they planned that pregnancy? >> who knows? that might not be mine >> i know she is. >> i don't know this. >> you said no. be in the know on "the test." >> i know where you at. i know where you at. [applause] >> kirk: welcome back to the "the test".

casey, ali, christa and francine are all here trying to end a 15-year long feud over casey and ali's daughter morgan. morgan the 16-year-old daughter has been listening backstage. come out morgan. [applause] [cheering] how are you? >> good, how are you? >> kirk: i'm good. you have been backstage and watched all this. what is your take? >> i just really want my mom and dad to get along. [applause] >> kirk: listen, i don't think there's anybody that doesn't want your mom and dad to get along. and especially you.

i mean because this is all about you. this is all about you. and it takes a lot of strength to come out here and be honest with what you want. [applause] first of all, i just want you to tell your mother what you want from her. >> i want you to get along with dad. i want you guys to stop fighting and want you to stop saying bad things. i don't like hearing that you think he is a bad guy because in my eyes he is not. [applause] [cheering] >> kirk: and all that matters is what she sees out of those eyes and hears and she had her whole life played before her eyes. she sat back and was watching a

movie of her life. and this is where you start the next half. the rest of your life. because the next movie you are in control of. right? [applause] i mean this is when you call the shots because you are strong enough. because you know what? you might be the only adult on this stage. [applause] now, tell him what you need from him as well. >> i need you to love my mom not love her like you love christa but just -- work with her >> she took a lot of time away from us. >> i know >> kirk: but you cannot get that time back but you can get the rest >> bitter is a tough pill to swallow, tough pill to swallow. [applause] [cheering]

>> kirk: listen, ali, are you going to be able to put all your hard feelings and it is a tough pill to swallow. and it's tough for both of you and he made that effort. but i have to tell you if she wants it, you should swallow any pill necessary for this young lady. this is for morgan, all right? [applause] listen, just make it start today. just be done with it and look at this face and she just needs love. you guys had love once and it did not workout. but maybe remember the good times and listen, at the end of the day this is an angel.

[applause] because she has been in the middle of this hell storm for 16 years. and for her to be this poised and just tell you what she wants, learn from her. all right? [applause] [cheering] ali are you willing to work a little with casey, baby steps, just because she asked which should be enough? it should be a no-brainer >> cut the lies that is all i want >> like what? >> kirk: ok. i know. both. >> let's try to move forward are we not? how about you let go and i will let go >> you let go and you let go. all right? [applause] all right. and here is my suggestion. here is my suggestion. everyone le lets go of the pastd grabs on to the future. because this is it. we will be right back.

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[applause] >> kirk: listen this family it's all about the future. we came here, we needed to know some things. listen, we learned things. but this is all we needed to learn. this is it. i mean, this is the magic. so think about when you guys start fighting again, you better think about this. [applause] and we'll sit down after the show and we will have you sit down with our after care and point you in the right direction and if you have any questions ever, from this day on, do not hesitate to call someone at "the

test" or even me. because this is magic right here. all right? check out what is happening next time on "the test." >> coming up tomorrow... >> you know -- >> trust issues are tearing them apart >> i never said >> you told me that. >> only "the test" can prove if he is the father >> the dna results show that eric -- >> all new on "the test." that is tomorrow. >> if you have somebody in your life that you do not trust or want to put to the test, go to thetesttv.com. [applause] [♪] [cheering]

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a source -- there's another source saying that chris -- that the man, the stranger tried to enter chris's tour bus which was sitting right outside the hotel d easilyph accessible except -- see there's the tour bus. that's a job for security. my thought about chris brown is he's just a hot head. you know, there's no big explanation for why he acts the way he does. he's allowed to get away with it. he's a hot head by nature. prison time is inevitable whether it's through this incident because he violated probation. he's still on probation from 2009 beating rihanna to a pulp. they say he faces four years in prison and i think two years will do him real well. if he doesn't go to prison this time it will be another time because chris brown is out of control and everybody allows him to be. as beautiful as his music is, he out of his mind. let's move