say they have stopped allowing employees to play. draft kings ceo jason robbins "outside the lines." >> you know i think this is a real eye opening experience. in retrospect it seems obvious >> reporter: draft kings based there are members of congress who want to look at whether fantasy sports leagues

constitute gambling or whether simply they're games of skill. scott, the difference is, gambling is regulated. so far, fantasy sports leagues are not. >> don dahler reporting tonight. a new study on medical costs shows huge price differences for the same procedure.

today president obama personally apologized for the american air strike on saturday

that killed 22 civilians at a hospital in afghanistan. he phoned the head of doctors without borders which ran the hospital and he also called the afghan president. the u.s. commander in afghanistan said the attack was directed by american troops after afghan forces called for help. he called it a mistake. doctors without borders says it still wants an independent investigation. today prosecutors in oregon said the gunman who killed nine people last week also shot at two detectives. they fired back, wounding him. then, he took his own life. president obama will meet friday with families of the victims. the shooting has now become a major issue in the presidential >> from the indications that i got they did not rush the shooter. morning, ben carson doubled down

victims of last weak's mass shooting at an oregon community protect themselves. he apparently didn't know that an army veteran did in fact try you know who chris mintz is? >> reporter: the republican the firestorm yesterday. >> i would ask everybody to attack the gunman he can only shoot one of us at a time. that way we don't all wind up dead. >> reporter: the former neurosurgeon posted a neurosurgeon, post aid provocative defense of the second amendment. i never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating ourselves away. remarks. >> i just don't think that's the road to go down in terms of questioning people who have lost their lives you have no idea what you would do. >> reporter: donald trump came to carson's defense. >> i thought he was treated unfairly. >> reporter: the republican presidential field largely rejecting calls for stricter gun laws. jumped on their rhetoric.

for president on the other side who say, well, you know, we just need more guns. and the idea that you need more guns to stop people who are committing mass shootings is not only illogical but offensive. >> reporter: this isn't the first time carson invited controversy. in 2014 he compared the obama administration to nazi germany. and he recently said muslims shouldn't be president. it may not be what carson said but how he said it that is controversial. government guidelines for how to handle a gun shooting, as a last resort adults in immediate danger should try to overpower the gunman. thank you. in iowa today. major garrett asked jeb bush about carson's comments. >> i don't quite understand what that means. >> reporter: bush said the focus should be on the victims' families and he has compassion

for those calling for stricter gun laws, but disagrees. >> name a case where gun rights being restricted out of washington would have changed the course of any of the cases. the bigger problem right now is that we have team that are, having growing despair, that are isolated from society, that's are disconnected from the rest of us, and spiral out of control and then commit these atrocious acts of violence and in many cases commit suicide. >> despite a fund-raising and organizational advantage bush runs fourth or fifth in polls in early voting states and nationally. there is now talk of bringing former president george w. bush on to the campaign trail to rally gop support. >> he doesn't have to rescue me. i am on the path. i'm totally confident about where we are. i will continue to, to ask his advice and counsel. but i got to go win this. this is my job. >> reporter: bush likes to call himself the tortoise in the race. slow and steady. >> it is a long haul. you know? it's, what happens in october is

completely irrelevant. ask me how it is going in january i've will tell you it is going pretty good. >> the tortoise metaphor is interesting, i don't remember the tortoise going backward? >> huh, look i am not going backward. >> your numbers have gone down. >> these polls don't matter. >> you haven't caught on yet. >> i don't have a clue about what people's expectations of me were. i don't care about that. i have a plan from the beginning to the end we will lay out provocative idea to lift people up. >> reporter: bush told us high nominating contests and might win as many as three. bush is running in the middle of the back in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. major garrett in des moines tonight. major, thank you. >> a political action committee urging joe biden to run for president aired its first ad today. uses audio of a speech biden gave at yale earlier this year talking about the tragedy that shaped his life.

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drastically different prices for the same medical procedures. dr. john lapook looked into this. >> reporter: in 2008 when nancy york, she struggled not only with her disease but with figuring out how much it would all cost. >> it put more stress on me than the actual diagnosis of cancer. >> reporter: today's report by cast light health which studies the price visits. hpv screening and mammography. sacramento, california ranked highest on mammograms at average of $485 compared to $159 in cincinnati. michelle scott is general counsel for fair health, a consumer organization that tries to make health care costs more transparent. has there been anything that just knocked your socks off? >> i think sometimes the fact that there are such disparities in pricing and that they can occur within blocks of each other.

cancer where bergman lives costs $211. 30 miles away in teaneck, new jersey, the same test is $95. why is there such a wide range of prices for the same procedure? >> there is a wide range there are a lot of different circumstances and the costs may be driven by other factors, overhead, rental considerations, and the methods that different doctors use to perform the procedures. >> i think consumers need to take a more proactive role in their health care. there are tools they can use in order to make proper decisions so that they can be the educated consumer which we need to be in today's day and age. >> online tools can help calculate medical costs based on your zip code. michelle scott acknowledged it can take a lot of work to learn usually buy a house without checking out what the mortgage terms are. a way to stuff more people into planes.

the great wall of china stood more than 2,000 years. but china's brave men's bridge cracked in two weeks. a tourist dropped a thermos on the glass walkway. officials insist it is safe but may require more bravery than before. >> another curious bit of engineering the origami car from lexus, the sedan is made almost entirely of cardboard. it took about three months to glue the together. it's drivable but just for show. seemed like a good idea on paper. and maybe not such a good idea, have a look at this. airbus filed for a patent for a split level airliner cabin, two tiers of seats that lie flat like bunkbeds. that's in business class. no telling how they're going to stack them up in coach. if you are looking for more space. we have it.

we end tonight with a man who traveled into space and turned into a star. here's jim axelrod. >> reporter: when canadian astronaut chris hadfield blasted off for a five month stay on the international space station in 2012, a few thousand people followed him on twitter. >> we had a million by the time >> reporter: how does that happen? >> all i was doing was saying i am a human being doing something unusual and new and you are welcome to come and look if you like. >> reporter: they did through the snapshots he tweeted and videos he posted, from everything making a sandwich in space to crying in zero gravity.

>> if you keep crying you end up with water. >> reporter: hadfield provided new views of life from space with a remarkable accessibility. this is ground control to major tom you've really made the grade >> reporter: it was his performance of david bowie's "space oddity" done at his son's suggestion that launched his popularity into a new orbit. but it's team to guide the capsule if you dare >> reporter: the video has been seen on youtube more than 26 million times. what is going on there? that has so grabbed people? >> i sang it. and i could hear how the environment much to my surprise had crept into how i interpreted the song. >> shake my hand, ethan. nice to meet you. >> reporter: not like hadfield was unknown. the first canadian to walk in space, he is on the back of the canadian $5 bill.

inspire. >> i was struck by one headline calling you the most famous astronaut on earth. pretty big title. >> yeah, it is. social media allows access now where you can look through the eyes of an explorer and get be right on the edge of human existence. i think that is kind of what people are celebrating. me up in the sky >> reporter: this friday chris hadfield will release an album of 12 songs written and recorded in space. and lightly land upon the bed and lay done to sleep >> reporter: a 53-year-old retired canadian astronaut and his guitar is leading a new generation of space lovers positively star struck. lay down now to sleep >> jim axelrod, cbs news,

that's the "cbs overnight news" for this thursday. for some of you the news continues. for others, check back with us a little later for the "morning news" and "cbs this morning." from the broadcast center in new york city, i'm scott pelley. >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." welcome to the overnight news. republican presidential candidate dr. ben carson sparked controversy over what some are calling insensitive comments about last week's massacre at a community college in oregon. >> i would not just stand there and let them shoot me. i would say, hey, guys everybody attack him he may shoot me. he can't get us all. >> take action. >> absolutely. >> hopefully will not have that happen. >> reporter: the comments haven't hurt his showing in the polls. second to donald trump for the

he sat done to discuss his views on mass shootings on "cbs this morning," with charlie, nora and >> good to have you here. >> thank you. >> what did you mean when you said i would not just stand there? >> i want to plant in people's minds what to do in a situation like this. because unfortunately this is not probably going to be the last time this happens. >> do you believe the victims in oregon just stood there? >> from the indications that i shooter. the shooter can only shoot one person at a time. he cannot shoot a whole group of people. and so the idea is overwhelm him so that not everybody gets killed. >> do you know who chris mintz is? >> no. >> so he is an army veteran. he was shot seven times. he did actually rush the shooter. he is being hailed as a hero.

people's lives. some one in the incident did act heroically. >> that verifies what i'm saying. that's what should be done. if everybody does that the likelihood of him being able to kill as many people diminishes quite significantly. >> you are being accused this morning of being insensitive to the victims. people say look you don't really know what you will do if god forbid you are ever in that situation. how do you respond to that? >> i respond to that, we live in a culture now where people decide that everything you say we need to set up battle lines and we need to get on this side of it or that side of it rather than, collectively trying to figure out how we solve the problem. it's, it's sort of an immature attitude it seems to be something rampant in america today. >> the question is what do we do about this? i mean everybody expects it will happen again. the president said it has become routine. so how does a nation come to grips with this fact it is a combination of who is doing it, access to weapons, and the

>> well in medicine we have a tendency to make decisions based on evidence. not on ideology. so, let's say this were a disease, what we would be saying is -- let's take each one of these shooters and let's go back and let's study their lives. and let's see if we can see some commonalties here. are there some early warning signals for people like this? so that we can begin to identify them and intervene before the tragedy occurs. not only for the people who were shot, but for the shooter themselves. >> how would you do that? number one. and secondly, once you begin to see a pattern how to you make sure that pattern will help you lead to the next potential assailant? >> i think we have to for instance, empower the psychiatrist. the psychologist. and number these cases, these people have already been working with mental health professionals. nothing was done about it. we have to be able to move to

the next step. mentally ill, but being able to interventional steps. >> should there be new laws to make it harder for people who have mental illness to purchase guns? >> for people who have been declared dangerous individuals by mental health professional absolutely we should be looking for a mechanism to keep dangerous weapons out of their hand. now, you know we need to study all the possibilities. and we cannot do anything that compromises the second amendment. but as long as we keep in mind, we don't want to compromise the second amendment. but we also want to keep dangerous weapons out of the hand of dangerous people. that makes imminent sense. >> at the time of the second amendment they were talking muskets, weren't talking ak-47s and rifle tuesday, you write in your book you, thought the ban on military style assault weapons was a good idea. you have now written you since changed your mind. what changed your mind? >> you'll also see that, that i talked about the fact that they recognize that things would

change. that we would become a more modern society, we face different principles, different situations but we had to recognize that it was the principles that were important. so what were the principles of the second amendment? those principles were we wanted to make sure that the people had the ability to assist the military in case of an invasion and that the people also had the ability to protect themselves from an overly aggressive federal government. that was a very important part of the reason for it. now, obviously, if we say -- well we are talking muskets. so yeah, you can have a musket. as we advance in terms of our weaponry. you can't have any of those things. that violates the principle. >> michael bloomberg is also close to the university you work, johns hopkins. and a proud graduate. he has become a very, very strong advocate for gun control.

understand that you understand? >> i think we ought to get him to answer that question. >> let me go with you first. and then. >> what i understand quite vividly is what daniel webster said. daniel webster said america will never suffer under tyranny because the people are armed. that's what i understand. so i don't want to see tyranny occur here. >> can't -- >> adams also said that there may come a time when we do not our country. we can't always assume that it is going to be that case. >> you criticized president obama for going to oregon to meet with victims' families, you

issue, can you change it without going to open wounds and inflict, you know, a lot of -- controversy. i would not. i said i would have probably lots of other things on my schedule i could do. the other thing. this is important. the other thing is i don't think i would have the pushback if i were president. because the i wouldn't be picking and choosing which groups i sympathize with. i would have, i mean i would have talked to kate steinley's family killed by an illegal alien. you have to be compassionate to everybody. you don't pick and choose. >> if you in fact as president could play a role and express the nation's grief in going to oregon you could be pleased to do that and would object to a president whose effort is to console the grief of a nation and the families who have been suffering? >> i wouldn't object to it. >> the "cbs overnight news" will

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won $45. now the boston resident is crying foul. >> any time the playing field isn't level, it's, it does make you think like, hmm, you know, what's really going on here? >> reporter: up until this week it was common practice for employees of the two biggest fantasy sports companies draft kings and fan duel to play in the other's fantasy league. the concern is that fantasy league employees knew which athletes were being picked before that information was made public. they could then create a fantasy team of less popular picks, who if they performed well in a real game, would pay off big. a fan duel spokesperson confirmed to cbs news that draft kings employees have racked up millions. and a teacher of entrepreneur at northeastern university. they it's arbitrage. >> reporter: the controversy is a black eye for the rapidly growing industry expected to generate $3.7 billion in ten

tree fees this year and over $17 billion within five years. daily fantasy leagues have financial relationships with major league baseball, nbc, comcast, fox sports and cbs. prominent nfl owners robert kraft of the patriots and jerry jones of the cowboys are investors. there is even a draft kings fantasy lounge in both of their stadiums. both fantasy league companies say they stopped alug their employees to play. draft kings ceo, played defense on espn "outside the lines." >> i think this is a real eye opening experience for us. in retrospect that seems obvious that would cause people concerns. >> reporter: draft kings is based in boston. members of congress want to look at whether fantasy sports leagues constitute gambling or if they're games of skill. the difference is gambling is regulated and so far, sports leagues are not. don dahler, boston. online gaming continues to

traditional casinos are hurting. revenue on the las vegas strips, dropped 5% in august. the third straight month of declines. sin city isn't standing still. and casinos are looking to lure younger gamblers with the next generation of gaming. jen ration of gaming. ben tracy reports from the palms casino resort in vegas. >> reporter: when people come to las vegas. a lot come to play the slots. the biggest revenue generator for the casinos. the problem is they're finding younger gamblers don't want to sit here and pull one of the levers. so the future of gambling could look a lot less look this and a lot more like an arcade. las vegas as we know it was built on the back of the one-armed bandit. slot machines with their 60% profit margins are cash cows. but it may be time to put them out to pasture.

play slot machines. just not. >> reporter: if he sound like a guy with something new to sell, well, he is. we're going into a brand new world. he heads one of the companies at this year's gaming expo in las vegas. betting on a very different kind of gambling. a casino looks like an arcade and nightclub. filled with games that require skill not just games of chance. >> this feels much more like video games than gambling to me. >> yes it does, doesn't it. i am fighting for my life over here right now. i want to turn the casino into where you have a fighting chance to win some money use your skill. race a car. shoot a target. >> reporter: i can't imagine that your sales pitch to the casinos they dent want to give people a fighting chance to win money. >> they're all going to change. as the your base gets older and evolves. you have to be prepared for the next generation coming in. >> reporter: the generation is the millenials those born after 1980 they head to vegas in droves and walk right by the

casino and into the nightclub. just 63% of them, who visited vegas last year gambled. that's compared to 78% of their parents' generation and 87% of their grandparents. younger people come to vegas for night life, clubs, partying, dancing, for all the great things vegas is nonfor, really no longer for gambling. you always have to keep your eye on the prize. >> reporter: the chief marketing officer for gambling. >> reporter: their idea is to take the games people already play on their smart phones and add gambling. you can also compete not against a dealer, but against your friends. >> as opposed to the focus of did i win or did i lose money. start playing. get invested did i beat the boss. am i getting to the next level? how am i doing at the game play as oppose to just money part of it. flip side of that is they're not realizing how much money they're

losing? >> right. absolutely possible. >> reporter: a change in nevada gaming regulations last month, now allows for skilled players to potentially win more money by advancing further into the game. but the downside is, if you aren't good at the game, you could lose even more often than you would at a game of chance. these new skill based games are expected to hit casino floors next year. >> we are now treading into new territory. again we are trying to attract a different generation. they don't play poker or black jack. but they play arcade games. >> reporter: and the slots no matter how much manufacturers try to keep them relevant may be on their final spin. >> ten years from now, those will be antique slot machines that dad used to play. powers through this brownie mess better than the competition, the first time.

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>> if you are frazzled from life in a big city or the suburbs, maybe it is time to get back to nature. a new study shows a few days in the woods can lower your blood pressure and improve your mood and even increase creativity. who has time for that? so more people are getting their outdoor fix online. thanks to an internet mogul. chip reid tracked him down in the woods outside berriville, new york. >> climb up inside? >> yes, do it. >> reporter: whether building tree houses. or bridges. >> good and bouncing. >> reporter: zach klein is living his boyhood dream with his very own getaway in the woods. >> my bio in some places i work in the internet now so i can

live in the wood later. >> reporter: did you think it would come this soon? >> i was surprised how quickly things worked out. no, i thought it would take me decades to be able to get to this spot. >> reporter: it didn't take long to get here as designer and co-founder of the video sharing website vimeo, klein found himself flush with more than enough disposable income to acquire 55 acres of serenity in upstate new york. what's the best thing for you about being out here in the woods? >> by profession i am a designer. when i come out here, i am reminded just how perfectly designed nature is. >> reporter: to get idea of what would be built here, klein started a blog featuring pictures of simple structures in natural settings. calling it, cabin porn. >> reporter: developed its own following which now has grown something like 12 million people looked at it in the past year.

>> reporter: where did the name cabin porn come from? >> well we were all young once. we all made mistakes. that was the first thing that came to my mind it was provocative. not certain it would be as popular if it did if it didn't have such a viral name. >> reporter: he curated 200 images from his website to create a book full of cabin porn. >> reporter: it is remarkable how often we receive letters from people letting us know it plays that role in their lives. that this is their way to relax or to destress themselves. and it inspires them. i think. >> reporter: to inspire others to join him, klein started a school. >> full length rip straight. >> reporter: where design experts teach building techniques and develop the property he named beaver brook. this woman who spent a week learning the finer points of japanese timber framing finds the time a great escape from her career as a tech ceo. you are wired in all the time? >> i am on my computer for,

>> reporter: is that one reason you are out here? >> a huge part of why i am out here. there is an increasing prevalence of technology everywhere seems to be taking over everything in our lives. getting outside, unplugging is an essential part of staying sane, healthy and happy in today's world. >> reporter: klein insist he is no henry david thoreau and says the beauty of beaver brook is in sharing it. and because the devices that normally connect us don't work here, a different kind of social network can take shape. >> having fun, mostly what this is about? >> yeah, exactly what it is about. >> it is about building relationships with each other through projects that we find rewarding. >> reporter: as rewarding as living in the woods with his family and friends can be, it is

not a year-round endeavor. yes, even zach klein spend most days plugged in. >> okay, jobs page. >> reporter: recently as ceo of an online school, diy. >> this was on the property when we moved here. >> reporter: for about six weeks a year, he recharges right here at beaver brook. >> the internet is pretty one dimensional when you kid it to a massive plot of wood like this. there are so many wonders beholden here. just look down at the ground to see them. >> reporter: what may have been zach klein's biggest discovery about building a cabin in the woods it really doesn't cost that much. >> in new york state you can get an acre of agricultural land for $3,000. you know, which is the price some people pay for their televisions. and i think what's really compelling to people is the realization that this simplicity that they're interpreting as luxury is actually pretty obtainable for any one who wants it. morning, chip reid, barryville, >> these mass shootings that seem to occur every couple months have a lot of americans

grasping for ways to end the bloodshed. in our series "voices against violence," we hear from a man who lost two of his uncles to gun violence. a president and a senator. >> i'm patrick kennedy. i'm the author of the mental health parity and addiction equity act signed into law in 1998. one consistency in all the tragedies is the perpetrator had untreated mental illness. the most basic thing we can do is wraparound services upon the first incidence of some one's psychosis usually in their late teen years early 20s. we know when to expect these when they happen. we ought to wrap our arms around the people who are suffering from these illnesses and treat them early. as opposed to ignoring them until they become pathologic, stage 4 illnesses and that's what lead to these ultimate

if you do that, you change the permanent trajectory of the illness thereby curbing the ultimate tragedies that have taken place. >> former congressman patrick kennedy. we will hear more idea on curbing gun violence in the days ahead. the "cbs overnight news" will be right back. ng pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc- cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 67890 cbs caption test !!! maint. testing pc-17 f1 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12345 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 678 it' s ryan' s cell phone. gibbs: isolate calls from psy-ops, government-issued lines. there'

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answer than we have now. narrator: donate to goodwill where your donations help fund job placement and training for people in your community. fashion icon ralph lauren is stepping down as chief executive of brand he created nearly half a century ago. to the surprise of some, handing the reins to former president of old navy. that isn't scaring wall street. shares in ralph lauren are going through the roof. vladamir dudier reports for "cbs this morning." for nearly five decades ralph lauren crafted an image of american style. his mark was made in fashion home goods fragrances makeup and accessories. now 75-year-old lauren is handing over the ceo, reins,

>> reporter: ralph lauren made billions by taking risks and staying true to his vision. >> part of the excitement is breaking rules. is knowing the rules and breaking the rules. and making them even better. >> reporter: lauren founded his company in 1967 with neck ties and be came a trail blazer in american fashion. his brand polo becoming synonymous with classic preppy style. >> he is one of the last designers also the ceo of his come of pane. there are very few of those. >> reporter: a fashion journalist. >> his legacy is he really created this dream. his personal idea of the american dream. and he has formed it in the fashion business and brought the idea of hollywood glamour, american west, iconic american idea and visions to the fashion world. >> what you thought you can buy in england, what you thought cary grant, fred astaire, you

and buy. when i came along the business was not at all. the things i made you could not buy. you couldn't find it. >> reporter: in one of his only television interviews, lauren sat down with char low rose in 1993. >> i was very influenced by movies. i was very influenced by a world that had a sense of dream. >> reporter: shares of ralph lauren rose 5% tuesday after stephen larson was named ceo. >> largely credited with old navy's turn around. >> reporter: the stock is now up over 4% after hours. larson worked for h/m 15 years and served for three years as global president of old navy a division of the gap. >> obviously there is a mass market move there. or an idea about expanding more into the mass market. even though tip is consider aid luxury brand. >> reporter: the ralph lauren brand encompasses 20 brands at various price ranges. larson in his new role in november. >> that's the "cbs overnight news" for thursday. for some of you the news continue thousands. for others check back later for the morning news and cbs this morning. from the broadcast center in new